couldnt think of a b adverb
#programmers-off-topic
lethal walrus
errant comet
theres so many nodes for rigidsim
lethal walrus
i thought that was ridgeside and for some reason ridgeside was in pxc
i wonder if i can stael aseprite's colour palettes
did you just manually make a palette for this
lethal walrus
yes please
lethal walrus
ah
hushed raven
Disable anonymous file names
errant comet
pxc also use hexes
hushed raven
it uses the TextureDiffuseColour packed int that mc uses, just converted to hex
lethal walrus
oh its hm
errant comet
lethal walrus
aseprite ones are .gpl files
hushed raven
are they plain text too or special binaries?
lethal walrus
plaintext
hushed raven
oh it's not that bad then
lethal walrus
GIMP Palette
#
# by Arne Niklas Jansson
# http://androidarts.com/palette/16pal.htm
# Inspired by the game Ork by Psygnosis
#
162 50 78 Untitled
68 63 65 Untitled
27 30 41 Untitled
54 39 71 Untitled
100 100 124 Untitled
81 108 191 Untitled
203 232 247 Untitled
158 164 167 Untitled
0 51 8 Untitled
8 74 60 Untitled
84 106 0 Untitled
82 82 76 Untitled
115 97 80 Untitled
119 120 91 Untitled
224 139 121 Untitled
0 0 0 Untitled
oh its the gimp format
i can probably make a quick converter
errant comet
I think you can use pxc to convert text to hex lol
hushed raven
Oh gimp, there are plenty of tools for that, I did make a converter but I didn't finish it past photopea to gimp
lethal walrus
I think you can use pxc to convert text to hex lol
could i? yes
do i value my sanity? yes
errant comet
fair enough
lethal walrus
i dont care python stop moving my editor
hushed raven
How sad, you can't array images 
unless it's my loops that are buggered which is very likely
lethal walrus
oh fancy youre doing like geores
hushed raven
Sorta, yep! Theres so much stuff I'm doing, all decor, with a few useful parts the mod is such a mess though, it desperately needs a rewrite for the 4th time
lethal walrus
oo
hushed raven
unless it's my loops that are buggered which is *very* likely
Oh i was doing the array wrong, you have to initialise it first with a blank array, good to know
hushed raven
Wooo!
errant comet
How sad, you can't array images <:SMCPufferWaah:1246946288700883025>
if node doesnt have this icon then it can take arrays iirc
hushed raven
Good to know! ty, I thought that was a duplicate button
Yes because that single connection to a node that doesn't do anything totally should have an effect on the spritesheet...
hushed raven
So I have an export node, if there a way I can just click an export button instead of needing to save or update?
errant comet
Yes because that single connection to a node that doesn't do *anything* totally ...
pixel composer is when you have no idea if its the program being ass or you being clueless
hushed raven
That very much is what I'm currently experiencing XD
errant comet
So I have an export node, if there a way I can just click an export button inste...
export node has a green triangle in the top right of the properties
errant comet
did you got the directory and the file name right and stuff?
hushed raven
yep, it's just my loops again
errant comet
oh something I didnt tell
you can choose any node, click on the preview of that node in the top screen and copy it
so no need to export something static each time to show
hushed raven
it likes to only export 16 images in a spritesheet and not all 112, pxc please, work with me here, I feel like i'm wrangling a bull on many illicit drugs
errant comet
what exactly are you exporting?
cuz sometimes you need to specify if its a batch export
also theres this button but I once wanted to export 100+ icons and it somehow exported around 4000
so im scared of it for a bit cuz idk what exatly it does here
hushed raven
Grayscale images to an array > loop over array > for each item in that array, loop over each colour in a palette > softlight blend each grayscale asset with each colour > assemble into spritesheet > export
cinder karma
I wasn't actually inspired by the guy on reddit, I decided on this method independetly
errant comet
Grayscale images to an array > loop over array > for each item in that array, lo...
this looks pretty complicated and I haven't learnt that much here ๐ญ
cinder karma
iro am I doing good on area?
cinder karma
I don't have a polymer to swing, just my big stick
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #8034 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503138669911867392)
errant comet
Grayscale images to an array > loop over array > for each item in that array, lo...
ill recreate it rq and test now
dusty pollen
what's doubling the cycles when it gets you infinite area
devout vault
And if you need more salt, I'm sure certain parts of reddit can provide even more infinites of salt
dusty pollen
oh wait you even have time where the input isn't being used
hushed raven
ill recreate it rq and test now
my issue would be entirely solved if the loop could have two input, but it seems that isn't the case
errant comet
my issue would be entirely solved if the loop could have two input, but it seems...
duplicate it and see if it works
lethal walrus
now how do i leftpad in python
why cant i just do pip install leftpad and get 6 million malware
ITS CALLED LJUST??
i get its left justify
BUT WHY
crystal wren
(How am I just learning that C# is getting unions? 
)
lethal walrus
:D
lethal walrus
(How am I just learning that C# is getting unions? <:SDVpuffereyes:2840034004739...
read that as cutting onions
hushed raven
pffffft nope that killed it XD
devout vault
(How am I just learning that C# is getting unions? <:SDVpuffereyes:2840034004739...
I feel like some of the people here have talked about it like half a dozen times over the past year or two
Unless you mean the .net devs are unionizing, which would be news to me too
rain apex
this channel is giving me work ptsd
cinder karma
(How am I just learning that C# is getting unions? <:SDVpuffereyes:2840034004739...
yeah, the vote was last week
developers wanted better workign conditions
(jk)
cinder karma
ITS CALLED LJUST??
you tend to do format string bs these days, why?
lethal walrus
didnt know you could do that
anyway if anyone wants it https://git.pillow.rocks/scripts/py/src/branch/main/gimppalettetopxchex.py
dusty pollen
now how do i leftpad in python
(or f strings + format qualifiers)
lethal walrus
yes well i dont know how to do that 
cinder karma
you're right iro,
I should have less downtime
this is so silly looking ngl
left right left right left right wheeeee
dusty pollen
sad
cinder karma
and I could either
(a) figure out how to get one input to do all the things
(b) long stick
long stick won
hushed raven
yeah it seems to allow that
Thats baslically what I tried doing but the loop in the loop wouldn't export them all, just 16 max of them
errant comet
Thats baslically what I tried doing but the loop in the loop wouldn't export the...
currently trying this
errant comet
im just using the sdv sprites to recreate somethin atlas wants
lethal walrus
right back to what i was doing, getting a palette in pxc
safe dragon
new name I see
lethal walrus
uh hmm
dusty pollen
new name new game
hushed raven
basically looping over each input, then looping over each colour, and overlaying them so turn 1 grayscale into 16 tinted x however many grayscales I have
errant comet
I mean
dusty pollen
gayncer
errant comet
i guess it works some way
hushed raven
I am so confused why it works for you but not me... hmm
lethal walrus
oh nvm got it
cinder karma
(fwiw, @crystal wren , they're typescript unions, not rust unions)
dusty pollen
in my head this program is called pixel compositor
lethal walrus
and my conversion worked perfectly!
cinder karma
I am sad and I don't want it.
safe dragon
is this sadness about the new type unions for C#
lethal walrus
in my head this program is called pixel compositor
fork it, replace all composer with compositor and it can be
safe dragon
I will share in your sadness
cinder karma
absolutely
I am very happy with my derp of a solution of this journal puzzle
left right left right left right wheeeee
devout vault
Why are we sad about them
safe dragon
cause they fucked em up
cinder karma
boxing
errant comet
I am so confused why it works for you but not me... hmm
I think you have better chance exporting one array at a time
cinder karma
I don't like boxing day
dusty pollen
uhh why do I have to give itchio my name and address to buy this
cinder karma
wait do I have to do the manual union thing?
the we have discriminated unions at home thing?
safe dragon
same reason steam asks you for your name and address when you buy a game I think
it's a legal requirement
dusty pollen
steam doesn't
cinder karma
and isn't it pretty limited in waht I can shove in, and don't I have to resort to actually using pointers?
dusty pollen
but ig I probably already gave it
safe dragon
steam doesn't ask you for your address?
dusty pollen
it may have once?
safe dragon
it does ask me still at least
dusty pollen
it definitely doesn't most times
cinder karma
most times but most times it saved the info
hushed raven
I think you have better chance exporting one array at a time
Thats probably true honestly, ahh well
errant comet
like this but for other images too? @hushed raven
cinder karma
they do for me?
dusty pollen
itchio doesn't
cinder karma
(left right left right left righ wheeeeee)
errant comet
I did just one array and it works okay
cinder karma
(sorry)
dusty pollen
I have to give name/address AND paypal
cinder karma
there's just something stupid fun about that machine
hushed raven
like this but for other images too? <@229986869092417536>
ye, I was just just going to shove them all into the same sprite sheet then split them because I couldn't think of a way to not do that at first, but I have thought of something
safe dragon
idk I don't use paypal on steam I use iDeal (now called Wero but I'm not ready to accept that change yet)
dusty pollen
ah
hushed raven
it definitely doesn't most times
I use my card on steam (i don't trust paypal at all) and it always asks for name and address, which is confusing because I can't spell my address correctly first time
devout vault
I have to give name/address AND paypal
Do they have support for other payment processing? If so, they probably just have one flow for it all and didnโt special case for PayPal.
Dominos is the same way ๐
dusty pollen
Do they have support for other payment processing? If so, they probably just hav...
just paypal and card 
devout vault
Yeah so no special case
crystal wren
(fwiw, <@147736231072104448> , they're typescript unions, not rust unions)
You know what, I'll still take it!
lethal walrus
im being far too confused by trying to stack these
cinder karma
๐ฆ
dusty pollen
ew vat added onto the price
lethal walrus
tbf it doesnt really matter im not using these for a thing
cinder karma
๐ฟ
dusty pollen
safe dragon
ew vat added _onto_ the price
ew how american of them
hushed raven
ew vat added _onto_ the price
ikr that so threw me off, "it's online why is there shipping?? oh vat..."
dusty pollen
gross. yuck
lethal walrus
have we sucked iro into buying pxc
dusty pollen
what do YOU think pillow
crystal wren
ew vat added _onto_ the price
What's worse is when you find the occasional place in the UK that exclude VAT. You never expect it until the checkout.
dusty pollen
:(
dusty pollen
What's worse is when you find the occasional place in the UK that exclude VAT. Y...
terrible
lethal walrus
what do YOU think pillow
im assuming yes but steam is trying to make it very hard
cinder karma
isn't vat like the european tax system
errant comet
ye, I was just just going to shove them all into the same sprite sheet then spli...
okay this is the best way for now
cinder karma
pay your taxes like real citizens smh
dusty pollen
you're assuming wrong. it's itchio that is trying to make it very hard
hushed raven
What's worse is when you find the occasional place in the UK that exclude VAT. Y...
the worst thing ever, car part dealers where the worst of it, no standardisation so it was a 50/50
lethal walrus
currently trying this
replying to this so ill see how to do
errant comet
theres a better own right here
errant comet
im being far too confused by trying to stack these
whats your goal here?
errant comet
oh okiee
hushed raven
okay this is the best way for now
Thats like the exact thing, you really are a pixel witch XD also congrats on getting at least 4 people to buy pxc XD
errant comet
ive put three names and then export numbers them based on the array
errant comet
Thats like the exact thing, you really are a pixel witch XD also congrats on get...
we even got the channel renamed so thats an achievement
errant comet
ive put three names and then export numbers them based on the array
just gotta press export three times instead of one
lethal walrus
yay!
errant comet
id also recommend using same greyscale on mask just to prevent accidental color bleeds
or theres keep alpha thing
dusty pollen
got on itchio and connected to steam (first time ever redeeming a steam key lmao)
errant comet
not sure
lethal walrus
???????
hushed raven
got on itchio and connected to steam (first time ever redeeming a steam key lmao...
wow you have not made use of deals enough, 90% of my stuff is keys from bundles XD
dusty pollen
wow you have not made use of deals enough, 90% of my stuff is keys from bundles ...
bundles from where?
lethal walrus
i think the only steam key ive redeemed was aseprite (i got it on humble bundle iirc?)
dusty pollen
I'm not much of a gamer though, remember? 
errant comet
only steam key I redeemed was a dlc for skullgirls pass
lethal walrus
OH i have to set sprite set to sprite array
errant comet
privately from the devs themselves
hushed raven
Various places, Humble Bundle (back when it was good), the Yogscast JingleJam collections, an old site that I don't remember but did monthly key bundles on a subscription, aiming to be a competitor to humble XD
errant comet
OH i have to set sprite set to sprite array
that could be the thing yeah
hushed raven
I'm not much of a gamer though, remember? <:SBVLmaoDog:1061416776312832060>
Oh ye good point XD 
errant comet
a lot of things I learned today just by teaching and watching you do something so thats a good practice
errant comet
both greyscale and blend nodes have properties to make recolours look a bit better but for the sake of testing I havent done much there
errant comet
that was rather a fun adventure
silly of you to not grayscale iron ingot and nugget
also instead of compositing you could put them on a little spritesheet like the one you do in the end I think
unless you did it manually which is also okay
safe dragon
somehow every single thing I've ordered over the last week or two has decided that it's going to be delivered tomorrow morning
I'll have 3 different delivery services at my door
errant comet
I want some ice cream delievered to my door tomorrow
safe dragon
alas I don't do delivery myself
errant comet
okay what do I do with these chudlings now
hushed raven
okay this is the best way for now
The loop does not like fitting inside another nicely.... ahh well, it's just a visual thing
errant comet
do I make some color learning youtube kids video
safe dragon
DHL will be at my door at 11 am, GLS will be at my door at 8:15 am and PostNL will be at my door at 10 am...
errant comet
The loop does not like fitting inside another nicely.... ahh well, it's just a v...
yeah its just these stupid lines
dusty pollen
oh btw (pinging @cyan shadow to see this too) I am doing the js equivalent of harmony patching for cookie clicker mods
hushed raven
Yay JS mods! XD
dusty pollen
I will say it is a hell of a lot easier
hushed raven
yeah its just these stupid lines
you can change the shape, thats so much nicer
hushed raven
You can double click the area, go to the settings tab, at the bottom you can change the shape to a rectangle
it's very nice
errant comet
and for connecting lines?
hushed raven
no idea, that was just like that
I would also like to place manypoints so I can avoid the cross of nodes, or just circuit paths would be grand
lethal walrus
silly of you to not grayscale iron ingot and nugget
youll never guess what colour palette they are
lethal walrus
also instead of compositing you could put them on a little spritesheet like the ...
oh true
errant comet
youll never guess what colour palette they are
ingot could be gray but nugget has some bluish tint to it
lethal walrus
i love this colour omg
errant comet
silly enough all three states of iron don't share the palettes
lethal walrus
ingot could be gray but nugget has some bluish tint to it
oh you are correct nugget is blue
raw and cooked being different palette makes sense kind of
nugget and ingot being different makes no sense
hushed raven
and for connecting lines?
Found it
errant comet
dev doing so much things for the pxc its just beyond impressive
it being unstable is a fair price for having so much things to work with
hushed raven
It's got a blimin minimap!
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by p.llow as #8036 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503150981003870429)
lethal walrus
.q 8036
heavy daggerBOT
lethal walrus
perfect its out of context
lethal walrus
it being unstable is a fair price for having so much things to work with
its not even super unstable at that
do i have to do the crime of splitting these into layers externally
or can i split an image into two images
errant comet
you can totally do that in pxc
depends on what you have and what you want
splite spritesheet node exists
or you can crop one image twice
lethal walrus
i want to separate stick and head
errant comet
thats something you can do but it needs some fixing
lethal walrus
externally it is then
errant comet
you can draw a mask I think
errant comet
you wanna make your pickaxes different color as well but without touching the stick I suppose?
lethal walrus
oh thats so smart
hushed raven
I have gained orphaned pins that I cannot get rid of so I made a smily face :)
lethal walrus
select them and press delete should work
hushed raven
tried that, it did not XD
lethal walrus
hushed raven
Theres no deleted button anywhere that I can see either XD disconnect all and hide junction doesn't work either so they're just there now, they're my children XD
lethal walrus
i mean the delete key
hushed raven
Ye no delete button, and the delete key doesn't work
lethal walrus
๐
hushed raven
Oh.. so selecting them by clicking and pressing delete doesn't work, but multi selecting them and pressing delete does, I feel like the dev may have not made a delete function and is instead handling it manually... just an inkling XD
lethal walrus
ah yeah i meant multiselect
errant comet
oh thats so smart
lethal walrus
i dont know why theyre different though??
lethal walrus
oo
hushed raven
you'd think they'd be that same wouldnt you? XD
errant comet
also I just noticed theres two types of solid nodes
both kinda work the same way one just have extra inputs
hushed raven
ones a shader toy one , I am excited to try the shader stuff tbf
errant comet
I think I used shader one and it works the same
reminds me of some minecraft mod revuew videos on yt
with some clickbait thumbnails
errant comet
ctd?
hushed raven
Crash To Desktop
errant comet
okay its 1am again and my head hurts a lot I gotta go sleep
was fun testing pxc with yall today
gnn
lethal walrus
wdy- ohhh
lethal walrus
ah yep
errant comet
ok gnn
hushed raven
gn!
little furnace
I did my PHP homework. At least one of the Ps is for pain.
hushed raven
Pain, Horrible Pain homework, both the Ps are for pain
weak obsidian
what in the what
poor cpu
nice OS
Endeavour OS with KDE Plasma 6.5 right?
i say Endeavour because they love picking that color preset
kde plasma 6.0+ for obvious reasons
if its bleeding edge its likely lagging one version behind since 6.6 just released this month
lethal walrus
Endeavour OS with KDE Plasma 6.5 right?
kubuntu
lethal walrus
i just changed the colour theme because i like this one more
safe dragon
weak obsidian
<:hc_pensive:901611983378481183>
power user
lethal walrus
is that.. 1275%
safe dragon
it is
weak obsidian
i believe it measures differently
lethal walrus
is it like
weak obsidian
unless you overclocked somhow 10x over and its using preset 1x settings
lethal walrus
100% on multiple cores
hushed raven
reminds me of firefox using 32gb when it was only using like 3 XD
safe dragon
I believe MacOS does the same
I remember seeing Mac people very upset in a game engine discord that their empty scene was using 80% cpu or whatever it was
which just means on all threads together it summed up to 80%
there was an actual issue there tho I believe with MacOS using spinlocks for something where it was inappropriate...
long verge
Theres no deleted button anywhere that I can see either XD disconnect all and hi...
What software is that btw ?
safe dragon
look at the channel name
hushed raven
Pixel composer! very fun and quite useful
cinder karma
the heck am I doing wrong with this polymer?
safe dragon
idk it looks fine without knowing what the symbols underneath it are
cinder karma
pliant snow
pokes with stick
you know what i want program, give it to me
okay but how to make square rainbow
this is one of those programs where nothing i do does as I expect lol
hushed raven
either blend or colourise I think?
weak obsidian
this is one of those programs where nothing i do does as I expect lol
hey, have u tried UV wrapping
for 3d models
i got a really horribly uneven 3d model that i didnt mirror when making it
pliant snow
i have tried making this rectangle into a rainbow
pliant snow
what?
weak obsidian
oh i thought u meant
literally turning a 3d rectangle model
with texturing into a rainbow
thought u were gonna pull some blender texture glitch
lmao
pliant snow
no i want to make a rectangle rainbow, i use this program for about 5 minutes at a time then give up
pliant snow
errant comet
Why is your rectangle SO BIG ๐ญ
pliant snow
the rectangle doesn't listen to me
lethal walrus
whats the project dimensions
errant comet
Press on the arrow on the right
lethal walrus
the rectangle doesn't listen to me
oh thats
set to 88 times not 88 pixels
also oh thats so smart using this for 88x31s
pliant snow
oh
errant comet
You are multiplying base project resolution
lethal walrus
im stealing that idea
pliant snow
why on earth would i ever want do things in the base project resolution
errant comet
Choose the px and it should work
pliant snow
okay i now have a small rectangle that isn't a rainbow, we're making progress
errant comet
I offed my pc so won't help rn, hope pillow still have it on
pliant snow
also oh thats so smart using this for 88x31s
that's all i want, to make 88x31s with some fun animated backgrounds and some static layers
lethal walrus
i have no idea how youve managed this tbh
errant comet
I think you have more chances just editing the resolution of the draw gradient node
hushed raven
what uses 88x31 images?
errant comet
To 88 31
pliant snow
what uses 88x31 images?
the early 2000s
lethal walrus
https://eightyeightthirty.one/ fun little logo thingies
pliant snow
I think you have more chances just editing the resolution of the draw gradient n...
i mean, probably, but that feels like it defeats the nodal editing to me
like, what if i wanted a rainbow circle
hushed raven
Ahhhhh 2000s didn't make sense until I saw the things, now it entirely does XD
errant comet
Oh you have to apply the gradient on the shape, draw gradient node just creates a rectangle based on the built in gradient
You have to add the other node that just says gradient
pliant snow
oh ffs
hushed raven
Here I was going to look into neocities but no, the page has a secure connection failed so I can't look at it, shame, thats where most of the 88x31s come from
cyan shadow
oh btw (pinging <@455071532784287755> to see this too) I am doing the js equival...
LET THE COOKIES FUEL YOU
pliant snow
is there another intermediary node i need, the draw shape UV map nor BG surface will accept the gradient's outputs
the Draw Gradient also has a shift parameter, which looked useful for animations, but looks like just Gradient doesn't
errant comet
Im booting up my pc rq
lethal walrus
ghgnhnh why it no have fonts
errant comet
I think it has no built in fonts
hushed raven
Is this what you want?
pliant snow
what dark magic is that
errant comet
That's interesting
hushed raven
Dimensions and gradient exposed as vars you can change
lethal walrus
and i cant even select any urghh
pliant snow
how did you get those inputs
hushed raven
idk why the interface has changed so much again though, it crashed and that happened so yanno, oh well XD same function happens though
pliant snow
oh you did it into the Draw Gradient
hushed raven
You can click the sideways eye to expose a connection for it
same with the dimensions
lethal walrus
i copied and pasted them from windows\fonts why are they all 0 kb ??
pliant snow
If I said to make it a triangle instead of a rectangle does that ruin everything
lethal walrus
oh! i have fonts
thorn latch
Whoa, the pixel wizardry has spread
lethal walrus
now how on earth do i get to the proton %localappdata%
hushed raven
If I said to make it a triangle instead of a rectangle does that ruin everything
Kinda.... Idk how to make it triangle at all XD
pliant snow
it'll be in your wine prefix
thorn latch
I've actually been looking at getting that- how are you guys doing with it so far?
cinder karma
complete and utter nonsense
pliant snow
I do happen to want a rectangle, but I was curious how well that would then affect if I wanted a different shape
lethal walrus
oh its /home/pillow/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2299510/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/PixelComposer/Fonts/
hushed raven
now how on earth do i get to the proton %localappdata%
steamapps/compatdata/<appid>/pfx/ beat me to it
lethal walrus
it'll be in your wine prefix
it would be, i did just history | grep proton for when i was installing sims mods thoguh 
pliant snow
oh i can animate the draw gradient's shift tho, that's nice
hushed raven
I *do* happen to want a rectangle, but I was curious how well that would then af...
Okay so you can fudge it with the blend node
pliant snow
ohhh with a mask i see
lethal walrus
can i make text have antialiasing?
lethal walrus
its literally a true/false called antialiasing how did i not see it
errant comet
lol
hushed raven
ello Worl
pliant snow
I can set the text to fixed dimension, although it still cuts off, let's see
hushed raven
And now I really want to use 88x31s everywhere, bring back the early internet whimsy
lethal walrus
i cant figure out how to make one that isnt a single point
lethal walrus
And now I really want to use 88x31s everywhere, bring back the early internet wh...
please do i need friends that have 88x31s
lethal walrus
is that the dolphin one
hushed raven
i cant figure out how to make one that isnt a single point
I think path builder may be what you want? not sure though, it seems the closest
hushed raven
isn't your whole branding dolphins?
errant comet
lethal walrus
how did you know about project dolphin
i just went to the bottom of aquova.net
pliant snow
hushed raven
now the question is, should these be on my .info domain or my .dev domain, the design styles are so very different across them both
lethal walrus
one for each
pliant snow
oh your font fits
errant comet
love it
weak obsidian
whats a good website to host for personal usage?
hushed raven
I really want to rip out everything from my .info domain, but so many things use it
lethal walrus
i should steal
hushed raven
marketed as website
swebsite
lethal walrus
whats a good website to host for personal usage?
wdym
pliant snow
i should steal
it's okay i already stole it
pliant snow
one of those 88x31 aggregators lol
lethal walrus
oh lol
weak obsidian
who here is a software developer and who here is a UI/UX designer?
pliant snow
who here is a software developer and who here is a UI/UX designer?
i'll let this speak for itself https://aquova.net/images/aquovanet-ecco.gif
errant comet
omg automatic 88x31 generator
weak obsidian
i'll let this speak for itself https://aquova.net/images/aquovanet-ecco.gif
software dev
lethal walrus
who here is a software developer and who here is a UI/UX designer?
every is one
errant comet
any image
lethal walrus
not everyone is a good one
errant comet
weak obsidian
omg automatic 88x31 generator
AWW HAHA
pliant snow
software dev
ha, wrong, middle management now
weak obsidian
ha, wrong, middle management now
ooo!
cinder karma
(what's 88x31)
lethal walrus
every is one
how on earth did i mess that up so bad
hushed raven
who here is a software developer and who here is a UI/UX designer?
technically neither, certainly not professionally at least, I do like UI/UX but I like doing ti badly
lethal walrus
i always forget im a professional developer now
pliant snow
do i also not have any other fonts
weak obsidian
This is not my website, but a friend of mines, it's cool that it has a slight windows 7 style
i think for my own website in the future
i want to make it look like full windows 7 or xp
errant comet
you gotta get your own fonts for pxc if thats what you mean
pliant snow
i see
hushed raven
https://teknixstuff.com/
This is **not** my website, but a friend of mines, it'...
Oh I love that
errant comet
I got most from free websites and google fonts
lethal walrus
https://panley.ใฟใใช/ is really a impressive site
hushed raven
you gotta get your own fonts for pxc if thats what you mean
no ttf or otf support? shame, I'll probably make a converter eventually
errant comet
no ttf or otf support? shame, I'll probably make a converter eventually
it supports both wym
hushed raven
Oh ace! my usual ones will work then
errant comet
you just need to put them in a folder
pliant snow
alright, got some ttfs
cinder karma
who here is a software developer and who here is a UI/UX designer?
.qp
heavy daggerBOT
Ask a question for your poll, jeez... (add --options # to use a numbered list instead of yes/no)
hushed raven
you gotta get your own fonts for pxc if thats what you mean
I thought you meant they had to be custom formats
pliant snow
the "open font folder" button, admittedly, leaves something to be desired
as it does nothing
hushed raven
A lot of them seem to do nothing
lethal walrus
the "open font folder" button, admittedly, leaves something to be desired
%localappdata%\Pixel Composer\Fonts
cinder karma
.qp "I am a" --options 3 "software developer" "ux person" "idiot orange cat"
hushed raven
Recent files and Open Autosave Folder also do nothing
lethal walrus
my wine explorer opens exclusively on the other monitor and right clicking opens it on the far right of that monitor
errant comet
they do things for me
hushed raven
.qp "I am a" --options 3 "software developer" "ux person" "idiot orange cat"
I am currently at this moment ginger so I am indeed
errant comet
I manged to open the crashed one
pliant snow
alright, got some fonts
lethal walrus
thats a something
pliant snow
oh you need a font loaded to specify a size well what a world we live in
hushed raven
they do things for me
ahh guess that may be a mime issue then
errant comet
oh you need a font loaded to specify a size well what a world we live in
I think its something to do with how app handles the fonts
hushed raven
Oh sod I still haven't svg'd my logo
errant comet
<:SDVpufferwaaah:982138774635020288>
lethal walrus
open it in aseprite and export as svg
it is technically an svg
it is also just pixels
errant comet
i apply an image frame
frame?
lethal walrus
like a border
weak obsidian
this channel is now pixel composer off topic
hushed raven
open it in aseprite and export as svg
I would but I don't have aseprite compiled, and that will take a little while
errant comet
then you put dimentions of the image to do 9s dimentions
weak obsidian
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
TYTSMM!!!
pliant snow
oh it crashed
lethal walrus
nine slice ig
ah ty i wouldntve thought to search that
oh thats perfect and it does it automatically
surely theres a way to layer more than 2 things at once
errant comet
like a border
where did you get it I forgot
theres a little library for frames and such
hushed raven
my svg can wait, 641 packages need to be updated first, oops
errant comet
yeah i got it from there
you can access it from the pxc too I just
lethal walrus
you can but
it wouldnt let me click
well, no it did but
i couldnt figure out how to add it to an image
errant comet
yeah currently on the same bit
hushed raven
I also cannot figure out how to add it to an image XD
errant comet
oh!
pliant snow
exciting new export error
lethal walrus
errant comet
you can just put it in the 9s itself
hushed raven
Where was the aliasing toggle? I can't seem to find it at all
lethal walrus
lethal walrus
even more cuter
that is very pretty
hushed raven
Ahh it only works with some fonts gotcha okay ty
pliant snow
oh hello
errant comet
hmm
I think if you remove three nodes between perlin and blend nothing will change ๐ญ
hushed raven
Oh ye that "l" toootally looks the same, why is it drunk?
lethal walrus
I think if you remove three nodes between perlin and blend nothing will change ๏ฟฝ...
not really
but i do actually kinda like it more
hushed raven
Wait why am I even using text, thats what I wanted the svg for
Oh no.. just updated everything and my computer just froze for a few seconds... not a bad sign surely
lethal walrus
Oh no.. just updated everything and my computer just froze for a few seconds... ...
no thats a good break
it improves your computesr immune system to freeze daily for a couple minutes
hushed raven
Ahhh the ice bath method, perfect XD
lethal walrus
i think i will take inspiration from this and include the tld
pliant snow
how did you guys generate those palettes for the minecraft editing
hushed raven
Thats what I'm doing, especially because I have two domains preactically the same with different tlds
lethal walrus
how did you guys generate those palettes for the minecraft editing
i stole aseprites
hushed raven
how did you guys generate those palettes for the minecraft editing
I made it manually, I'll pass the hex values along bare with
lethal walrus
and then ran them through https://git.pillow.rocks/scripts/py/src/branch/main/gimppalettetopxchex.py
pliant snow
does it accept aseprite palette files?
lethal walrus
not as far as i can tell
pliant snow
dang
lethal walrus
it's format is
RRGGBBAA
RRGGBBAA
RRGGBBAA
RRGGBBAA
RRGGBBAA
Wait is it pxc or pcx
lethal walrus
pxc
pliant snow
pxc
lethal walrus
PiXel Composer
hushed raven
I hate that it uses a custom filename thats just plain text, it makes it less easy to see without downloading
errant comet
Basically I just found an image in google, extracted its palette using pxc and saved it as default one
You can have a folder with all your palettes too
Basically used a hammer to make a hammer lol
lethal walrus
I hate that it uses a custom filename thats just plain text, it makes it less ea...
fair but it makes it clearer you cant just use a random .txt
lethal walrus
i guess
hmmm hrmmmmmmm hmhmmhmhmhmmm
that is oo very nice
i might get rid of the sparkles tbh
nah i think its fine
devout vault
Oh are you the one who roped jade into lurk
lethal walrus
huh
pliant snow
no that was toe
devout vault
So long I might be confusing them with someone else
pliant snow
hypothetically
weak obsidian
Windows XP topbar in progress
devout vault
You have a Kirby image with two colors on it. Hypothetically
pliant snow
and i wanted to replace color A with palette A in a loop, and color B with palette B, in a loop, and generate a 2D spritesheet
hushed raven
I have forgotten how to use inkscape, maybe I won't be making an SVG
devout vault
Oh, pixel composer. vanishes
pliant snow
and it crashed
lethal walrus
Oh, pixel composer. *vanishes*
join us
hushed raven
Oh, pixel composer. *vanishes*
Hey inkscape is not pixel composer I will have you know, it's very much different (in the same way oolong and chai are different)
cinder karma
Hey inkscape is not pixel composer I will have you know, it's very much differen...
.q add "oolong and chai are different." - @hushed raven
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #8037 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503188417918402590)
cinder karma
I have no idea what you guys are doing I'm just trying to get to 100% journal completion eventually
looks at Crumble
weak obsidian
ditched XP cause I like 98 more
code sloppy but works
its best to make code good when u did entire site (heh..)
hardcoded variables here i go
weak obsidian
ahhh
vendor prefixes
time to turn my website to more slop
you need -ms- prefixes for it to work better under IE10 and IE11
like: -ms-flex-direction: column
safe dragon
not even my old employer supported internet explorer anymore
safe dragon
_looks at Crumble_
weak obsidian
not even my old employer supported internet explorer anymore
its not easy
my website for atlas has like, 10% support
tho my personal website...since its pretty basic and no animations
its not hard to really make it work under a lot of old engines
like trident and edgehtml
presto etc
safe dragon
it's not easy and blocks you from using almost every feature that makes modern CSS actually nice to use...
steel kraken
I remember 2017-2018 having to fight to justify not supporting IE because its miserable to have compat for
and then had all the compat pain with safari instead
safe dragon
I remember us having some ancient ecmascript compatibility checker and it would warn against using flex cause of unreliable browser support
safe dragon
beautiful
weak obsidian
mobile it looks like a horrendous mess
hushed raven
After fighting inkscape and butchering a capitalised A, I have my 88x31s, they are however both called the same thing which is confusing...
They're both called 88x31.png... I'm suprised the filesystem handles that
weak obsidian
U may use only Mozilla Firefox, version 98
140 was last good version
hushed raven
I don't actually know how to install a lower version of firefox... wow, looks like I can't even get firefox 98 for a laugh
weak obsidian
I don't actually know how to install a lower version of firefox... wow, looks li...
look on their repo for old builds
offline isntaller
hushed raven
I'm trying to find it but their site has changed and I hate it
cinder karma
points at the opus journal pages
hushed raven
Ahha! found it
prisma flume
i'm something of a firefox 53.0.b9 fan myself
little furnace
I like Opera 12.
hushed raven
I like cans on a string
cinder karma
I really love it when I can have two halves come together
this one is a nice speed challenge
hushed raven
How do people get so much detail into 88x31s? I'm amazed
I still don't fully get them either, is it like Pokรฉmon? Do they always link somewhere? Im too young to have experienced these XD
dusty pollen
wow cookie clicker getting inaccurate. you just need one dictionary word plus .js
hushed raven
Just look up your address on what3words and use that, simple, just like ///crab.method.lunch
-# not my actual address obvs, thats the late queens room in Buckingham palace
errant comet
Morning everyone
pliant snow
No it didnt
prisma flume
dry as a bone
devout vault
wow cookie clicker getting inaccurate. you just need _one_ dictionary word plus ...
what about that game and the grandmas made you think it took place in the same timeline as us
dusty pollen
what about that game and the grandmas made you think it took place in the same t...
idk it seems perfectly realistic to me
fleet wren
I agree that Cookie Clickers is unlikely to happen in our timeline
Universal Paperclips on the other hand...
devout vault
How can a junimo bite you if they don't have teeth? 
weak obsidian
i dont know!
crystal wren
devout vault
(source: the "junimo anatomy" official merch)
cyan shadow
How can a junimo bite you if they don't have teeth? <:SDVPufferThink:84367844219...
homf
They go homf
crystal wren
Also I can't believe you stole my UI design. /j
weak obsidian
Also I can't believe you stole my UI design. /j
Everyone
I'd like to apologize for stealing DecidelyHuman's design, this is entirely my fault
weak obsidian
Also I can't believe you stole my UI design. /j
is that a mod? :0
looks like 98
devout vault
Also I can't believe you stole my UI design. /j
I can't believe you stole the OG RTF's UI layout
crystal wren
It was a replacement I made for RTF during the 1.6 alpha for people to use before it got updated, yeah.
I just... decided to style it like a dork.
Which is a compliment for yours, to be clear.
weak obsidian
I can't believe you stole the OG RTF's UI layout
didnt you guys steal my layout?
see!!
i had it before stardew existed
devout vault
i had it before stardew existed
I mean, Stardew stole the idea of a PC farming game from me, so... /s
https://github.com/spacechase0/Farming-Game
crystal wren
YES. Best gif.
devout vault
It was a replacement I made for RTF during the 1.6 alpha for people to use befor...
I am aware
weak obsidian
I mean, Stardew stole the idea of a PC farming game from me, so... /s
https://gi...
but didnt you steal that farming game from harvest moon?
crystal wren
Well, one of them...
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #8038 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503442469222748210)
cyan shadow
YES. Best gif.
I'm being buffeted about
weak obsidian
I mean, Stardew stole the idea of a PC farming game from me, so... /s
https://gi...
do i have to compile to play the game
devout vault
devout vault
do i have to compile to play the game
I think "game" might be a bit of a stretch, but yes
cyan shadow
I'm being buffeted about
Not as badly as the people in the Belgian articulated bus that drifted on the way out of the station tho
devout vault
Could also go back to the last commit in October 2011 (it got restarted at one point)
cyan shadow
Second time I'm seeing that happening, starting to think it's part of their training
crystal wren
#ifndef TILESET_H
#define TILESET_H
namespace Tileset
{
enum Tileset
{
Spring = 0,
};
}
#endif // TILESET_H
Truly feature packed.
devout vault
but didnt you steal that farming game from harvest moon?
No, because harvest moon wasn't on PC
crystal wren
Stardew even stole spring from you, wow.
weak obsidian
No, because harvest moon wasn't on PC
thats truee
weak obsidian
```cpp
#ifndef TILESET_H
#define TILESET_H
namespace Tileset
{
enum Tileset...
wow isthaat the game
thats so cool
..is that just 1 season
devout vault
Stardew even stole spring from you, wow.
It's worse than that.
It even stole all four of the compass directions from me
#ifndef DIRECTION_H
#define DIRECTION_H
namespace Direction
{
enum Direction
{
Up = 0,
Right = 1,
Down = 2,
Left = 3,
};
}
#endif // DIRECTION_H
personally, you stole that from me, because MY KEYBOARD has had this for a long time
HPPHM
: (
devout vault
..is that just 1 season
No that's the tileset, can't you read? /s
This is the season
#ifndef SEASON_H
#define SEASON_H
#include <SFML/Config.hpp>
enum Season : sf::Uint8
{
Spring = 0,
Summer = 1,
Fall = 2,
Winter = 3,
};
#endif // SEASON_H
lemme go read ur code brb
devout vault
There's a lot more if you go back to the october 11 commit.
https://github.com/spacechase0/Farming-Game/tree/c8d22c6ae760e012e2964e1eb73104c2f7700a18/src
crystal wren
<Unit filename="obj\Npc.cpp" />
<Unit filename="obj\Npc.h" />
<Unit filename="obj\Objects.h" />
Wow Casey, putting source files in one of your build directories. /j
weak obsidian
my experience in C++ is not the best
devout vault
```xml
<Unit filename="obj\Npc.cpp" />
<Unit filename="obj\Npc.h" />
<Unit filen...
obj for build files goes in the root level with res and src ๐
weak obsidian
I think
i may not be great at c++, but, i do have a concern
big concern
big orange concern
// TO DO: Seasons
its only been 14 years
do you think you'll get to removing the to do?
devout vault
no
weak obsidian
or is this a feature instead of an incomplete thing
devout vault
next question
weak obsidian
next question
do you have plans to close source the project and turn it into an orange farming game
๐๏ธ
devout vault
No,
cinder karma
It's a farming game for mars
devout vault
Now, close source and turn it into a blue farming game? Well...
weak obsidian
Now, close source and turn it into a *blue* farming game? Well...
i'd love to help fund the project,
i have a whopping 5 dollars
this should be a major breakthrough for you and your team to fund all the developers to start
crystal wren
.....does mars have seasons
As it turns out, yes!
weak obsidian
What if you farm underwater
and can grow underwater oranges
cause thats important right
devout vault
I mean I was looking for this one
But I forgot I had the cat one in my favorited gifs
safe dragon
weak obsidian
LMFAO
safe dragon
the cat one plays fine btw
devout vault
I mean, as it should. It has a cat.
cinder karma
What if u set farming game in New Zealand
devout vault
What if u set farming game in New Zealand
new zealand isn't real
sources:
cinder karma
As it turns out, yes! <:SDVkrobusgiggle:898395746875875379>
<https://en.wikipe...
You're making farming game on mars now right?
errant comet
cats on mars
devout vault
You're making farming game on mars now right?
Semi-relevant game I have that I need to go and play: https://store.steampowered.com/app/803050/Per_Aspera/
heavy daggerBOT
Title result: Per Aspera on Steam
cinder karma
DH! How is university
crystal wren
Semi-relevant game I have that I need to go and play: https://store.steampowered...
I think I have a key for this... it does meet my space criteria...
I mean it's still all stuff I don't actively need to absorb and so I'm barely doing anything, but it's going!
cinder karma
Space criteria?
dusty pollen
whelp, pixel comoser now crashes every time I try to use the toolbar...
and I don't know where that setting file is stored to reset it 
dusty pollen
I managed to fix it, but lesson learned: don't go into the 'side menu' layout
hushed raven
Semi-relevant game I have that I need to go and play: https://store.steampowered...
if only you told me about it 28 days ago when it was only 6 quid for me, smh XD
devout vault
if only you told me about it 28 days ago when it was only 6 quid for me, smh XD
do you need notifications for every time a game in my library goes on sale
every game
and more if you want my wishlist too
cinder karma
Sure y not
hushed raven
Yes I would very much like that, I have notifications set up already but they don't work, you have much more chance of getting through to me XD
fleet wren
-# casey did you remember to reserve the steam controller
devout vault
Of course, I had an alarm set for 15 minutes ahead of time
No email yet though ๐
cinder karma
What's a steam controller
Tbh I watched an entire fucking YouTube video on dishwashers
I cant speak
fleet wren
re: mars, I remember buying Surviving Mars but bounced off it for whatever reason
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #8040 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503472823081894198)
fleet wren
(and apparently they remastered the game last November?)
(and damn, Mixed reviews)
(guess I won't retry it)
cinder karma
What's Mars
heavy daggerBOT
Title result: Surviving Mars: Relaunched on Steam
hushed raven
Oh I have that game, apparently played 6.8 hours, not that I remember any of it
fleet wren
yeah same
from what I remember it unfortunately wasn't as deep a city builder as I had hoped
fleet wren
from what I remember it unfortunately wasn't as deep a city builder as I had hop...
which is a shame because there's so much science to be done on Mars, but building the colony just boils down to "gather enough resources to plop down a biodome"
errant comet
cinder karma
What's a joke
dusty pollen
which is a shame because there's so much science to be done on Mars, but buildin...
you could grow potatoes on there, for example
I can't remember anything else from that movie
errant comet
We could already have a Dyson sphere if there was no wars and corruption ๐ญ
Also love that movie
hushed raven
~~I can't remember anything else from that movie~~
that and infertility due to RTG, those two are the only things I remember XD
errant comet
for some reason rigidsim can't render the serpent animation and only outputs a random frame from it :(
safe dragon
unacceptable
the speakers arrived for my tv so I've been properly stress testing them with some high end audio, phineas and ferb episodes
it has been a big upgrade though, I'm glad I got em
the TV speakers were so bad I pretty much just didn't use the TV
devout vault
the speakers arrived for my tv so I've been properly stress testing them with so...
What about the early prototype preview of the hit upcoming Stardew mod?
safe dragon
my TV isn't actually connected to cable or really anything except a switch. I hooked my laptop to it to stream from jellyfin
devout vault
(My parents watched it on the tv yesterday ๐ )
safe dragon
does the mod have music
devout vault
Just the music and sound thatโs already part of the vanilla game
fleet wren
my old timer mother still watches TV but it connects to YouTube/streaming instead of cable
I don't think it connects to cable anymore
kids these day will never know what it feels like to have to wait for their favorite show to come on
cinder karma
What's a kid
fleet wren
a baby goat
cinder karma
How r u
cinder karma
R u plant or zombie
fleet wren
fant4stic_say_that_again.webm
weak obsidian
my old timer mother still watches TV but it connects to YouTube/streaming instea...
one day i will have some sort of adblock
for my internet
only reason is because as many times as I report it, I get very suggestive, and disturbing ads
some that flat out say very explicit words
hushed raven
"Hmm I'm not sure how to use this node, lets see what the wiki say"
The wiki:
"yes thats very helpful thank you"
crystal wren
...is this made in GAME MAKER?
hushed raven
Yep!
crystal wren
I-
devout vault
my old timer mother still watches TV but it connects to YouTube/streaming instea...
Same for my parents
devout vault
~~kids these day will never know what it feels like to have to wait for their fa...
I mean, simulcasting shows have a similar problem soon. Anything new that isnโt dropped all at once like Netflix likes to do, really ๐
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #8041 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503502903606771772)
errant comet
...is this made in GAME MAKER? <:SDVpuffereyes:284003400473903104>
made with gm with help of aseprite
devout vault
...is this made in GAME MAKER? <:SDVpuffereyes:284003400473903104>
<screams in that one old 39dll project which somehow has multiple seconds of latency on localhost>
(And, you know, the other reasons I stopped using GM to begin with)
errant comet
"Hmm I'm not sure how to use this node, lets see what the wiki say"
The wiki:
I used surfaces to font I can teach you
hushed raven
Why do none of these fields have any way of telling what they are besides reading the source, this is hell
hushed raven
I used surfaces to font I can teach you
Please I beg XD
errant comet
you basically need to slice a tilesheet and then put a string map for it
errant comet
I can show rq
crystal wren
I fear whoever has the will to make something like this is GM.
errant comet
hushed raven
Ohhhh!!!!I thats much different to what I thought had to be done XD as you can tell, not a scooby XD
crystal wren
I wonder if they're still thinking about supporting C#...
errant comet
so I spliced this to an array and then used the stringmap that I had to type manually
so 0 index is space 1 is ! and so on
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #8042 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503504023951507568)
devout vault
I wonder if they're still thinking about supporting C#...
Unironically would be make me curious again, since I could use actual objects (I assume)
cinder karma
fant4stic_say_that_again.webm
Wut
errant comet
Ohhhh!!!!I thats much different to what I thought had to be done XD as you can t...
I see
errant comet
well it took me a while to come up as well
cinder karma
It would help if I knew anything about that movie (or TV show?)
errant comet
https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620
that
again
cinder karma
Selph. I only know about plants vs zombies because you've complained about it
hushed raven
do you have to write the entire string map? or just enough to reach what you need?
errant comet
second thing
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #8043 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1503505230963278037)
errant comet
ig you can partially crop stuff and then like frankenstein the whole thing together again but I just typed what I needed
hushed raven
Hmm okay, well the surfaces to font show up correctly, the draw text node however does not, time for more figuring out
so tempted to make this program myself XD
errant comet
are you putting it in the right input
dusty pollen
you could probably also pad with some random character up to the part you need if need be, I'm guessing?
errant comet
yah
everything is possible with the right methods
you gotta put visibility in the font property of the draw text and then put surfaces to font output there
and it works for me
fleet wren
Selph. I only know about plants vs zombies because you've complained about it
did you know that the latest version of PVZ Replanted finally added dynamic audio, but they still use manually looped flat audio files so it still sounds inferior than the original version's programmed tracker music
sorry that came out of nowhere
hushed raven
I think so? This looks right to me? (blackout some parts that are irelivant)
errant comet
oh nice I softlocked myself in a cycle of crashes
cuz I touched one thing and it exploded
hushed raven
What a fun system XD
cinder karma
did you know that the latest version of PVZ Replanted finally added dynamic audi...
Dont worry did you know smbc ran a comic about the 4% rule?
errant comet
I think so? This looks right to me? (blackout some parts that are irelivant)
idk what you got in the splice but looks okay to me
node wise
gotta swap beta to stable rq and hope it fixes itself
fleet wren
Dont worry did you know smbc ran a comic about the 4% rule?
I may or may not have seen that one via osmosis
hushed raven
idk what you got in the splice but looks okay to me
The splice is larger than it needs to be just so I can see that the font appears in the surface to font node, otherwise it's just the space character which is invisible XD This seems like it should be right surely? like array seems like the right Output and horixontal for the main axis is how the spritesheet is layed out
errant comet
great news I fixed it
errant comet
The splice is larger than it needs to be just so I can see that the font appears...
you gotta propertly splice symbols and padding ig cuz rn it seems your node doesnt do it
not sure how to do that cuz sdvs one was pretty compact