programmers-off-topic

[cinder karma]

Part of my mental bugs is i hate new things

[devout vault]

I thought that was just the jungle region variant of carvana

[cinder karma]

Like

I dont like change lol I want the car I've always had the laptop I've always had etc

[devout vault]

And I want the happiness I've always had, but we can't get everything we want, now can we?

-# (disclaimer: I AM PERFECTLY FINE, nothing bad has happened and I'm doing mostly better than ever. but that ruins the joke)

[cinder karma]

I'm enjoying watching Elon Musk have a terrible week

[devout vault]

Oh?

[cinder karma]

Looks like Spirit Airlines is gonna die lol

Anyways

Y'all need to decide on a small game for the entire channel to play next, thanks

[red crest]

Journey

[cinder karma]

Don't stop...believing...

[cinder karma]

No seriously

Weekend plans?

[sand frost]

Contemplate sleeping in

[hushed raven]

sleeping, java, and baked pastries I think

[cinder karma]

Elizabeth are ur students taking finals soon

[sand frost]

Yeah except I don’t give finals

I have a final project

Which my students will inevitably procrastinate

[cinder karma]

Time flies!

Poor little students

[prisma flume]

Store in a cool, dry place. keep out of direct sunlight. consume within 5 days

[hushed raven]

please don't consume programmers, they keep the fun internet running

[cinder karma]

Goood morning everyone

Quiet today

Did the programmers get eaten

[hushed raven]

yes, I ate them, to gain all their programming knowledge, you are what you eat after all

[cinder karma]

An atra contains no programmer

[devout vault]

Are you sure? Have you seen the internet lately?

[devout vault]

Oh it was just a ploy to eat them all yourself, got it

[devout vault]

As we learned in OOP, programmer atra is an example of inheritance rather than composition

(C++ has multi inheritance, to preemptively shut down any arguments about engineering or something instead)

[little furnace]

That might be too 3D.

[cinder karma]

I'm super proud of sailcloth

the small arm handling duplication is awesome.

[fleet wren]

how did I ever play without halt

[little furnace]

Yay, I finished my first C-Side in Celeste. It can only get harder now.

[timid iron]

Hello

[cinder karma]

one more for the night

apparently tonight is for polymers

[dusty pollen]

how is this my first time realising xor is its own inverse

[errant comet]

I once had an argument with my college professor about xor and nor

they said it was the same thing

😭

they were so sure about that since it was written in a book

and it was a typo

[dusty pollen]

did they try to use any amount of sense

[errant comet]

doesn't seem like it

thats why I hate the current education

can't call it modern since its not

people are taught to read something and then remember instead of learning how stuff works

they didn't even admit their mistake they just called me problematic 😭

[dusty pollen]

I've always hated when logical subjects are taught as magic things you need to memorise

no wonder people think they don't understand maths, it was never explained to them except for as a series of tricks

[errant comet]

most of the things I know is something I came up with myself since teachers just don't explain how stuff works

esp with trigonometry

[dusty pollen]

a lot of my teachers didn't know themselves

[errant comet]

thats just upsetting

[dusty pollen]

absolutely

you could always tell who didn't because they'd immediately get lost if you solved something a different way

[errant comet]

and it doesn't limit on maths, a lot of subjects in school and college is just taugh in a wrong way

[dusty pollen]

which I somehow always did

[errant comet]

how come my 5 min explanation helped someone learn something they didn't understand for years

[dusty pollen]

EXACTLY

and it's because you actually explained rather than trying tricks

[errant comet]

I once was called in front of the class to solve some math thing and I realised I solved it wrong, asked teacher and he said "yeah thats right ty sit down"

😭

they were fired in like a year after that

[dusty pollen]

I explained radians in another server a few weeks ago and it's amazing how many people were never told the basic definition of radians when being taught about them

[errant comet]

I still don't remember them that much

it was like three years ago and I haven't heard of them since then

[dusty pollen]

my permanent rant is that school should teach everything through the lens of "how do we know if things are true"

rather than mostly teaching bits of info and occasionally mentioning that part

[errant comet]

I think I came up with circle perimeter theory that works around radians

and was like omg what

it was so simple

[dusty pollen]

then you reverse engineered their definition!

because that is, indeed, how they are defined

[errant comet]

2pi r is like 2 pis cuz pi is half a circle

and radius is just radius

[dusty pollen]

1 radian = the angle of a circle where the "perimeter" of the arc is the same length as one radius

so 2pi radians = 2pi * radius = the full circle

[errant comet]

pi is such a cool thing

sad I don't really remember that much

took me a while to make the stardew clock thing in wpe

that and roblox studio is the only place I needed radians in my life 😭

[dusty pollen]

fun fact: the code for turning the clock hand on the community center clock and the golden clock is actually completely wrong

but it's close enough for a single turn (which is the most you will ever see without it resetting when the day ends)

[errant comet]

value.z = -Math.abs(engine.timeOfDay*180)
not sure if someone helped me with it or I came up with it myself

[errant comet]

I mean game time is pretty strange tbh

600 to 2600 iirc?

[dusty pollen]

oh I just mean the animation

[errant comet]

yeah this too

[dusty pollen]

the animation can just convert to normal time, which iirc it does

[steel kraken]

I'm still team Tau

though my favourite aspect of trig is that cos(θ) and sin(θ) measures the x,y coordinates on a unit circle

[errant comet]

I was never taught or learnt what tau is but I think I have an image of it in my head

[hushed raven]

tau is just pi/2 right? does it have something to do with the golden ratio too or am I thinking of phi?

[cinder karma]

2pi

Makes it better

U get to bake 2 pies

[cinder karma]

Atlas plz observe my best success of the year

this is absolutely the best thing I've done all year, which actually says something very bad about this year, but that earth arm handling the duplication

[hushed raven]

Oh now that is beautiful

once again I am amazed at how the final chunk just forms, I love pretty gifs

[cinder karma]

click click clack hey monomer!

it took some time to get the geometry right, I kept building one of the sub monomers backwards

but the earth just...worked...it has to dodge both lines but somehow it can

suture thread also is pretty elegant (building both directions of monomer with the difference one one two length arm)

[little furnace]

So you'd have r(τ/2)^2 for volume? That makes it worse, in my opinion.

[pliant snow]

no, area of a circle would be (tau / 2)*r^2

[devout vault]

how indeed

[errant comet]

wait did you mean nxor

or something else

im a bit slow here

[cinder karma]

purdy

no, iro found out about crc algorithms

and is deep in the sauce

[devout vault]

holy shit! two cakes pies!

[devout vault]

ah.

my condolences, iro

[cinder karma]

rotational symmetry

[dusty pollen]

I did no such thing don't you worry

[cinder karma]

crc is like the primary usecase of xor being its own inverse

[devout vault]

Tangentially related, shout out to DGA using $"{modId}/{itemName}".GetHashCode() to make string item IDs work pre-1.6

[devout vault]

The primary use case I typically see is assembly using xor reg, reg, reg to 0 a register

[cinder karma]

iro I love it when a puzzle has rotational symmetry for no good reason lol

always gotta make it symmetric if that's the case

[dusty pollen]

A     | 0 0 1 1
B     | 0 1 0 1
A^B   | 0 1 1 0
A^B^B | 0 0 1 1 = A

anyway I used it for a cheap reversible encryption

[devout vault]

A classic

I've done the same at some point

[cinder karma]

it's also how crc works, lol

[dusty pollen]

thing I'm using it for doesn't need particularly high security but so XOR with a secret randomly generated number is plenty

[cinder karma]

(yes, I had to do the crc deep dive for work)

[dusty pollen]

especially since it's guaranteed to have 64 bits exactly

[cinder karma]

lol, is this for the discrods

how many journal puzzles do I have left

I still have

1. final puzzle on the dlc (don't @ me, it's hard)

[dusty pollen]

yeah I could have just left it unencrypted tbh there's no real reason to encrypt it, but I figured might as well

[devout vault]

discrods?

[dusty pollen]

I assume they meant discord

[devout vault]

Ah

What do you need xor for for a discord bot?

[cinder karma]

34 journal puzzles left

for the gram, casey, you need xor for a discord bot for the gram and by the gram I mean the linkedin

[devout vault]

that clarifies nothing

[cinder karma]

there are a lot more journal puzzles than I thought lol

[hushed raven]

I watched a video about this literally last night, I did not know about this, it still doesn't quite make full sense but is sure is cool

[dusty pollen]

basically I want a potentially secret channel ID in a bot button that would be discoverable from the client, and while all channels IDs and names are sent to all clients regardless, I figured we may as well hide it so they can't be connected for any reason

channel IDs are 64 bit numbers

[devout vault]

Basically, when you XOR A and B, you invert the bits of A where B has a 1.

And if you do so again... a double inversion is just the original state

[devout vault]

I don't know if you mean for maincord, but

-# time to start a maincord conspiracy theory

[hushed raven]

Oh.. thats a much simpler explanation,

[dusty pollen]

it's a very good explanation, it helped me and I'm the one who wrote that table

[devout vault]

something something the teaching conversation from earlier

[dusty pollen]

there's a single hidden channel and it's a shrine to our lord and saviour wumbus

[devout vault]

Fun fact. I've never been told that explanation myself, I just sorta came up with it on the spot

[dusty pollen]

I want to start encoding that channel ID everywhere, clearly

[devout vault]

oh, sorta like the cheetaboy shrine on the KAR server

I'm not making that up by the way

[dusty pollen]

oh it's a memorial channel

[dusty pollen]

there's one in the bugcat capoo server too

ah nope, he's alive, they're just weird

[hushed raven]

Hmm double secret channel, so secret that the vesktop plugin can't see it, dastardly

[devout vault]

People sometimes post other things in that channel, and they do get in trouble for it

[dusty pollen]

(the one in the bugcat server is an actual memorial channel)

[cinder karma]

(you actually could make smth like that the honey channel for bots)

fuck assassin's filament

shape atra has vs shape atra wants

what if I ignore all common sense and use a w shaped half monoer

[modest steppe]

be the chaos

[dusty pollen]

uh, when's the last time you tried it?

you've done much harder puzzles

[hushed raven]

To anyone whos played cyberpunk 2077 and the DLC, currently the main game is on offer for 17 quid, but the bundle with the DLC is 31 quid, Should I get the DLC now? or should I wait until I've finished the main game then buy it?

[little furnace]

I forgot my formulas.

[little furnace]

Steam allows you to complete bundles later, which means you only pay the difference to what you would have paid if you had bought the bundle in the first place. So there's never any reason to buy the bundle immediatly, unless you're sure the contents will never go on sale again.

"Completing bundles" sounds oddly familiar...

[rain apex]

people seem to like the dlc tho

its a whole thing and not just horse armor

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by atravita as #7997 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1500141538007584908)

[hushed raven]

It was more of a "is the dlc worth the same price as the actual game" I don't mind waiting until the next sale for the DLC because of the budle system steam has, but I'm usure if the same price as the game is a fair amount for the content

Oh it has mods, ye base game will do for me for a while me thinks

[devout vault]

There's even a VR mod (or two?), if your PC is enough of a beast to handle it

It doesn't have full 6dof controls and stuff though. I think

[hushed raven]

my PC better had handle it, the GPU should be plenty good enough

TIL you can klarna steam purchases, that's dangerous

[fleet wren]

I was browsing through my old Opus Magnum solves and found a giga cursed solution that I swear to the gods I don't remember making

you have been warned

[hushed raven]

Cursed??? That is a ballet of elements

[safe dragon]

that's beeautiful

[modest steppe]

i understand nothing but monkey brain likes

[safe dragon]

I appreciate you that you're turning the waste atoms into salts even though it's pointless

it's visually more pleasing

[dusty pollen]

you know, if you're going for max area, pivoting the waste chains gets you there much more quickly /lh

[modest steppe]

they spin and g brrrr

[cinder karma]

I haven't done this one yet lol

Mostly because I refuse to trash most

But now I see

[marble jewel]

Can anyone guess what I’m up to? Wrong answers only

[terse galleon]

building a new hal 3000

[marble jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/hal9000-hal-hal-9000-space-odyssey-2001-a-space-odyssey-gif-16460551034971887576

[hushed raven]

making a door sensor more complicated than it needs to be

[marble jewel]

That's too close to correct to qualify for wrong answers only

[hushed raven]

So it either relates to a door, or overcomplicating things, I revise my answer to: making a quantum computer simpler than it needs to be

[marble jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-movie3-argument-quantum-facts-gif-24932137

[devout vault]

that reminds me of a thing I've been wanting to try

[safe dragon]

automatic tabletop cleaner

[marble jewel]

If only...

[dusty pollen]

elegant goo

that's my answer, btw

[red crest]

ain't that the 3d printer company

[devout vault]

Okay my guess: beginning the journey to invent full dive VR

Can't think of a single thing that's more likely and totally achievable

[marble jewel]

That's not too far off from the truth

[hushed raven]

How are complicating door sensors and full dive VR even close? XD

[marble jewel]

How indeed

[terse galleon]

front door full VR dive aka going outside and touching grass

[marble jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[little furnace]

You're making a giant pizza oven?!

[marble jewel]

For making giant pizzas, of course

[safe dragon]

cannot be used for normal sized pizzas

[marble jewel]

You could I guess

[dusty pollen]

is full dive vr when you play subnautica or dave the diver but you're in a real diving suit in a giant swimming pool and people attack you with fish puppets

[safe dragon]

is that a wagner piccolini pizza

[marble jewel]

Close enough. We call them bagel bites here.

[safe dragon]

also cause of a brand

[cinder karma]

much easier to build but also quite slow

[marble jewel]

I'm adding individual room presence as an additional context for home automation

[cinder karma]

did my dumb ass forget it had TWO inputs. yes

yes I forgot

damn

okay

[little furnace]

That's... not a pizza oven though.

[cinder karma]

much better

[safe dragon]

AVM does not support every conceivable use case

pathetic

seems like AV2 is on the verge of kinda actually existing

though the spec was expected to be finalized several months ago and hasn't been so who knows

but we've got a decoder ready for when it exists... https://www.phoronix.com/news/Dav2d-Open-Source-AV2-Decode

technically the avif file format has had experimental av2 support for like 3 years even though the spec isn't finalized to this day

[cinder karma]

please ignore some atoms changing color

[safe dragon]

hmmm

[little furnace]

You can set custom start and end points for loops.

[cinder karma]

better?

[little furnace]

Yay.

[cinder karma]

iro, selph, how goes this one

[fleet wren]

waow

[safe dragon]

I assume you were going for minimum area

[little furnace]

Minimum area is so yesterday, go for maximum area now.

[cinder karma]

I mean, my sword alloy

(it swings the polymer)

[dusty pollen]

yup, that gets area high so quickly it lags the game

guess how I know

[spare flower]

I'm trying to make a mod that will let you play cutscenes as standalone mini-movies that don't affect anything in-game. Turns out making an object with an mcq prompt quality is crazy complicated. My current idea is to add a shop tab to the library interaction w/ Gunther where you can buy dime novels that serve as initializing items using SpaceCore_PlayEvent. Does anyone see any initial problems with this / have any tips for making shop tabs?

[little furnace]

This is #programmers-off-topic, where programmers talk about off-topic stuff. For making mods, I recommend looking into #making-mods-general.

[safe dragon]

time to try this docktail/tailscale services thing out

[safe dragon]

it looked so simple but nothing is happening, don't see any errors or warnings in any logs...

[safe dragon]

yeah idk it just says it's going to create the service, then doesn't and nothing happens

the worst kind of bug. Just no errors, warnings or any indication whatsoever where in this nest of configurations you're apparently doing something wrong

[safe dragon]

it just started working suddenly

it's working the future is here

[pliant snow]

tailscale has so many features I just dont even know exist

and frankly aren't really use if they're useful at all

[safe dragon]

it's nice that I now access em through https I guess

[cinder karma]

made it faster

[safe dragon]

faster is better

took this time to also move copyparty to docker cause I was still using some manually set up thing that I never updated cause it was a hassle

[cinder karma]

Oh I also can ditch one of the calcification glyphs, nice!

Not that it matters with how expensive everything else is

Are you SURE I have no budget?

[dusty pollen]

— an engineer realising they’re being set up

[cyan shadow]

I'm frankly amazed at how fast it set everything up

[safe dragon]

not for me

I needed to go through an initiation ritual cause it wasn't doing anything

was fast once it felt like it tho

[cinder karma]

Minrate on this should be 4. I'm at....8

Jesus

[fleet wren]

minmaxers are on another level

[cyan shadow]

yeah I got lucky, I think

[cinder karma]

opus really does enforce lawyer version control

[uncut seal]

oh no, git is modable into this

[cinder karma]

oh no, we spent all our budget on the last puzzle, you'll just have to make do

[supple ether]

Pffff

[little furnace]

I never even rename them.

The meta info about the categories is enough.

[cinder karma]

I wanna see people's Luster's

this insanity is the only way I got everythign to FIT

yes, with the wheel in the OTHER chamber so I had to pass every blasted salt BACK

[fleet wren]

yeah same

[cinder karma]

(Yes, the two length arm exists for one pivot.)

Do you know about conduit phasing?

If you place an atom on both sides of a conduit and release at the same time, both make it through

[fleet wren]

nope, TIL

[cinder karma]

You see me use it a few times 5o exchange tin for elements

[weak obsidian]

Chocolate hotdog

Cookie brownies

French toast

[dusty pollen]

horrible, ugly solution

[little furnace]

I wanted to say something positive, but I actually have to agree.

[dusty pollen]

it's just not elegant

it is faster than both selph and atra's solutions, but atra's area calc makes me suspect theirs is very pretty

it also displays one of my worst habits in this game, which is "what if this hex arm I was using to take the other atom out of the way while testing just... stays part of the solution..."

atra show yours

[cinder karma]

I'm in midmeal prep insanity

When this water boils and the first tray of potatoes is out of the oven

[cinder karma]

nope, mine is godawful

I had to fix the parity so much on this one

why does the top have weird parity

[cinder karma]

You can tell when I've given up when I either (a) rotate smth by 180 degree or (b) use a piston on a track and it isnt a production puzzle

That said you can use an arm in the free space to rotate the monomer counterclockwise

There are obvious improvements i could do - the most obvious is that the three arms should share a triangle track (one less step to reset)

If that is the case, then I could have a three length arm swing down the pair instead of using the piston on the track

The debonder is unused and came from an attempt to fix the parity by rebonding

[cinder karma]

fiiixed it.

the solution was two pistons on tracks :(

What i do like is the three arms on the left make one cycle around the track per sub monomer and end up in their original positions (so they just need to reset their rotation and length)

This puzzle is built for 6p ngl - I have to pause the trio one cycle to wait for metal.

[modest steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-18127271

reminds me of this guy

[safe dragon]

everything I could be working on is on hold till other people do stuff

I'm just fixing tiny minor "bugs" at this point to pass the time

I improved the contrast in the UI in 1 place in dark mode...

[worldly dove]

Wait

[little furnace]

Me waiting

[safe dragon]

we wait

[little furnace]

The server icon has changed.

[safe dragon]

star wars day

or remembrance of the dead in the Netherlands

your pick

[little furnace]

I think it's Monday.

[safe dragon]

you might be right

I am at work

[little furnace]

I have university later. And then host the weekly media science board game meeting.

[pliant snow]

The death star was littered with the Dutch

[hushed raven]

May the 4th be with you, I love the icon

[cinder karma]

More changes - right now it waits for all three arms to reset (unnecessary - 2 and 3 have plenty of chances to fix their position later)

That might make the deposit arm the long arm again, but that's easy enough of split

It would be nice if the upper monomer was turned in one to the right. We're at a cadence of 12 at best so

Or the bottom one one to the left

[devout vault]

In the "there are dozens of them" sense, or the "the death star has practically become a landfill where people abandon their Dutch" sense?

[pliant snow]

Yes

[uncut seal]

@cinder karma @fleet wren I'm using a completely different method for Lustre: I'm only making the quintessence on the right panel, everything else stays on the right. It's definitely improvable but I can't tell which method is "cleaner"

and I have some condition that forces me to make any "chain" compound in a straight line for some reason so that it looks like a production line

I think all of my solutions for chains look like this, from left to right, as straight as possible

also it looks like my gif viewer does not handle diff gifs correctly

[pliant snow]

It seems that moving away from github may have been wise, given its poor reliability lately

[prisma flume]

buy gitlab stocks

[devout vault]

buy gitcarnival stonks

[fleet wren]

2015: if we don't maintain at least four nines of availability we have to fire all our engineers
2026: what's a "nine", that looks like an upside down six

[devout vault]

(I am not calling gitlab a carnival, just iterating on the git<place> naming methodology)

[fleet wren]

does gitlab index code files larger than 350kb, if yes I'll seriously consider switching immediately

[devout vault]

.8ball does gitlab index code files larger than 350kb

[heavy dagger]

https://youtu.be/CGDIZoXXdg8

[fleet wren]

[hushed raven]

I think it's larger than 350kb? I feel like I've seen files larger than that indexed but not completely sure

[devout vault]

I still haven’t figured out how to search the code inside the current repo on gitlab

GitHub’s isn’t great - can’t seem to see in branches? - but it at least exists and is marginally helpful

[fleet wren]

speaking of git anyone tried https://www.jj-vcs.dev/latest/? i've switched to using it and my workflow is a lot more comfortable

the craziest thing about jj is that if there's a merge conflict you don't have to resolve it, you can just leave it for your future self or your descendants in the future

-# the branch/stash/commit flow is also a lot more sane than whatever the heck git does

-# obviously if you're already very familiar with git switching is going to feel like moving from QWERTY to DVORAK

-# it's also written in rust btw

[devout vault]

-# so its not worth trying, got it

[cinder karma]

Selph, do you know how many knuckles I had to crack to get even git at work?

||I would consider it for personal projects of which I'm the solo dev but I have none of those||

[cinder karma]

One thing I like about mine is that work is shared better

[cinder karma]

Can I see your assassin's filament

[cinder karma]

If you look carefully at the right chamber, it's already handling making elements while construction is finishing

• bidirectional conduit movement isn't that bad once you use conduit phasing

I should explain why I hate pistons on track when area isnt the metric (area is the 0th metric of production)

In cost, pistons are wildly expensive. You can get an arm and four entire pieces of track for the cost of a piston!

In cycles, you often have small, tight loops where each arm can only do, like, two actions before resetting

[cinder karma]

Like if we look at this one, there are only two arms that use period 8 - the tri in the center, which has a lot of operations but uses both a track loop and being a tri arm to spend less time resetting, and the arm on the diamond track.

[uncut seal]

a linear production line, as promised

[cinder karma]

Oh, I forgot i used the w monomer lol

[devout vault]

no steam controller for me 😔

[cinder karma]

I swung it in so the bonder for the top doesn't interfere with the bonder for the bottom, but I think a lot of my polymer solves have the final monomer swing in

Because it's easier to build if I have access to all four sides, etc

[fleet wren]

wow how is it out of stock already

maybe they're staggering just so their server isnt kill

[cinder karma]

I wonder which part they can't get lol

[safe dragon]

can people stop ddosing ubuntu real quick

my docker container needs to install something

[pliant snow]

Oh sorry

You know its probably some rabid arch or bazzite group or something doing it

[burnt locust]

I thought I should share this here for modders who made mods or people who downloaded mods from Modland
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValleyMods/s/1gZd4cmmU3

It's nothing much btw, just people who uploaded mods without putting either forgot their own credits or without crediting others

[fleet wren]

yeah a few authors have been sending takedown requests
that site is literally 100% reuploaded mods so if you're a modder definitely check if you have mods on there

-# also this is too on-topic for the off topic channel but shh

[safe dragon]

reported

[burnt locust]

Oh I'm sorry ;v; it's just I thought I would make more sense to put it here rather than the tech support or the other mod channels ;v;

[pliant snow]

You have my permission to post it here

[hushed raven]

And now I want to get back into making silly CSS stylesheets for wildly none standard webpages XD

[rain apex]

what size of swap should i use

[cinder karma]

It Depends

But usually I remove swap

[rain apex]

atm i have 32gb memory and 4gb swap (cus that was arch defaults) i wonder if i should do more or less

[cinder karma]

Usually i dont swap at all tbh

Swap is so slow it's basically unusable

[hushed raven]

I have a grand total of 0 swap, with 32gbs, swap seems sorta useless

[cinder karma]

Maybe if you have a very fast ssd

But even then

(If you full drive encrypt definitely turn off swap)

[rain apex]

i dun do that

[cinder karma]

Also I didnt know installing arch made you have 32gb of ram

How does that work

[rain apex]

atm i have

• 32gb memory
• 4gb swap (cus that was arch defaults)

[cinder karma]

Back in the day I remember doing encrypted drives and shit lol

God

I used to be cool

[rain apex]

Well i guess I'll just turn it off now

[cinder karma]

I forgot my lunch on the kitchen table today like a dumb person lol

[rain apex]

And leave the partition if i ever want it on again

[cinder karma]

My slice of Costco pizza was tasty

What kind of ssd do you have

[rain apex]

M2 i think?

I forget the manufacturer

[cinder karma]

What does it have for latency and bandwidth

[rain apex]

Atra my brain slides out of my ears whenever ppl mention hardware near me

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by atravita as #8006 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1500902461853143172)

[cinder karma]

Remind me in 24 hours to put this in my obsidian for later

[heavy dagger]

if I wasn't wasting time on your menial requests, I could probably have solved p=np by now. jerk. (#7170544) (24h | <t:1778025023>)

[cinder karma]

Sorry we cant be friends then

Wouldn't want my mere presence

[rain apex]

ok i was completely off the mark its a Samsung SSD 990 EVO 2TB

Seq Read    5,000 MB/s
Seq Write    4,200 MB/s
Rand Read    700,000 IOPS
Rand Write    800,000 IOPS
Endurance    1200 TBW

it seems like normal numbers bolb

[dusty pollen]

I'm pretty sure if I didn't have swap my computer wouldn't be functional

and the reason I'm pretty sure is that whenever I run low on disk space my computer ceases to be functional--

[cinder karma]

Iro, what opus level do you want to challenge me on next

I figured out why I haven't done the last dlc puzzle

Too busy trying to figure out if the division glyph can be part of my solution

[dusty pollen]

that one then

[cinder karma]

I literally might do min cost first

At least min cost is obvious, I dont have to sit there doing metal math

[fleet wren]

it usually doesnt matter unless you want to hibernate

[dusty pollen]

just do A solution first

[cinder karma]

I have a custom puzzle that just has a bunch of random metal inputs and a division glyph

[fleet wren]

which doesnt work half the time

[cinder karma]

So I can play with it

[rain apex]

dw it literally never worked for me

[hushed raven]

even then it makes basically no difference, hibernate happens a lot when I forget about my computer and there seems to be zero difference between swap and no swap for me

[cinder karma]

Yeah, I can do min cost!

[fleet wren]

dont you need to save to swap to hibernate (unless there's a fancy dynamic file option)

if you want to hibernate the swap has to be as big as ram

[hushed raven]

not that I can tell, unless manjaro has something fancy going on that I don't understand which while likely, seems odd

[steel kraken]

I don't remember the last time I hibernated a computer and not just use sleep

[pliant snow]

you could also have a swapfile

[fleet wren]

i guess hibernate has an advantage if you're anticipating a power cut during the night, but yeah we usually just sleep

[cinder karma]

Also tbh

[steel kraken]

windows pretty much hid the concept of hibernate once SSDs became a thing

[cinder karma]

That puzzle isn't any more special to me over any journal puzzle

[fleet wren]

if linux devs live in an ASEAN country they'd have more incentive to make hibernate more stable

[cinder karma]

And wont be unless Zach adds a steam achievement just saying

[cinder karma]

Laptop has battery

[hushed raven]

I always remove the swap file as it's not needed with the 64 gb of RAM I have, worth atleast 1 mill by now surely

[fleet wren]

yeah also 90% of people use laptops so hibernate's not a necessity

[cinder karma]

Wow. Way to flex your fully funded retirement

[hushed raven]

ikr, am living the rich life over here XD

[cinder karma]

To be fair, Selph, my laptop effectively has no battery anymore

[errant comet]

one of my two 8gb sticks just died recently and I am very upset

[little furnace]

I looked at it, but then switched to Sapling, which seems to be more stable.

[rain apex]

come to think of it i never had a power outage where i live

at least not one that made me unable to use me computer

[cinder karma]

You've never had a power outage?

Have you never gotten hit by a hurricane

[little furnace]

We had that when I was younger.

Not hurricanes, they don't exist here.

[cinder karma]

Also, debate time. Achievements locked behind DLC - yay or nay

[little furnace]

Nay.

[hushed raven]

massive nay, except when they aren't shown if you don't have the DLC

[little furnace]

I have some weird form of OCD. I hate achievements, but when they exist and track my progress, not having 100% feels like I haven't finished the game correctly. I wish I could completely disable them.

[cinder karma]

ngl getting every achievement on that low poly bridge game is gonna break me

No i don't have every stardew achievement

But the ones I dont have is literally impossible on a cheap keyboard

So

[fleet wren]

interesting; I haven't heard of it until now but it seems like jj and sapling share a lot of design decisions

-# which is working with trees don't have to be a pain in the butt like git

[cinder karma]

Can you do sparse checkouts

[fleet wren]

yeah it can; jj (and sapling) are both git frontends by default so you can drop it on top of a git repo

so if worse comes to worst you can just run git commands

hmm https://docs.jj-vcs.dev/latest/sapling-comparison/

[little furnace]

I think I needed the (albeit poor) Git LFS support.

[cinder karma]

Watching the newest opus tourney steam and

There is gorgeous tech on triplex

[sand frost]

this is wild to me

no hurricanes here, but sometimes storms

when the ice coats the power lines, down they go

where i grew up, we had a power outage once because a plane hit a key junction in the grid

pretty tragic actually, but it was a notable memory as i was home alone that day

i was just about to break out the candles when the power came back on

[hushed raven]

Power outages are a common thing where I live, mostly due to trees falling on lines, yay rural!

[hardy jewel]

My power goes out for a few hours/days every other week and has for years, super rural so no fixes for a very long time

[devout vault]

My power went out yesterday

Took a few hours to come back

It was right after I woke up too

[hardy jewel]

I'm pretty sure our entire line is faulty as hell versus the lines actually getting damaged each week by something

no one seems to care enough to properly fix it

so

[steel kraken]

when I was in the suburbs it wasn't a common occurrence but did happen a few times, hasn't happened in the almost 7 years in my apartment

[sand frost]

Back when I lived in Pittsburgh the lights used to flicker whenever there were bad storms

This wasn't rural at all, it was in Pittsburgh proper

[rain apex]

i live in da city and near a bunch of hospitals so they prob have better than avg grid

[cinder karma]

please observe how elegant HALF of blue vitrol is

while the other half is tears

[cinder karma]

Golden thread is max rate

The salt is pulled every two.

But no idea how to reduce latency lol

[fleet wren]

got curious and decided to optimize my own strat, manages to reduce it to 2 cycles before top percentile (warning, cursed)

||area maxing solution ||

[cinder karma]

Right, I see my cycle savings now. Pivot the whole thing into the exit first

And also possibly use a track cycle to fix the one regrab that has latency

[lethal walrus]

Today on pillows computer being problematic: it decided to not respond to keyboard or mouse input after being locked for a day or so so I couldn't unlock it :D

[long verge]

Did you try putting it in rice ?

[lethal walrus]

No

So I entered my password to sign in
And how am I back at the sign in screen

oh second time i actually got in

[cinder karma]

( @ casey)

If pattern is followed today will have another journal page

[safe dragon]

I ordered the controller yesterday

[cinder karma]

I barely know what a video game controller is

Aren't they those things shaped like w that people play fighting games on

[safe dragon]

controller shape was inspired by the discord logo

did you know that the discord logo is called the "Clyde" logo in the discord brand guidelines...

[lethal walrus]

[dusty pollen]

also seen as the "bot" that "messages" when there was an error sending a message

[safe dragon]

they also tried an LLM chatbot called Clyde once upon a time and then immediately scrapped it

[dusty pollen]

I wonder why

I see absolutely nothing terrible about that idea

[devout vault]

i tried 😭

for 30 minutes

[fleet wren]

I didn't even get to try

too busy having a j*b and when I blinked it's gone

[safe dragon]

oh

I just went to the site like 15 minutes after it came out, bought it and that was that

had no issues...

[devout vault]

ah, but see

you aren't in the land of freedom to be exploited

(not that the steam controller stock is doing the exploiting. just, you know, much of everything else)

[safe dragon]

I actually bought it cause an American friend said it was already sold out so I went to check but it was fine

and bought one while I was there

apparently I was much later than 15 minutes

[safe dragon]

[dusty pollen]

what is special about a steam controller

[hushed raven]

trackpads, and valve

[devout vault]

it runs on water vapor, not electricity /s

[safe dragon]

the joysticks function through quantum tunneling

[devout vault]

now I'm imaging the ATLA "secret tunnel" song, but s/secret/quantum/

[dusty pollen]

it's both more and less expensive than I would have expected

[safe dragon]

tbh it just seems like the ideal controller for use on a PC

[hushed raven]

I was going off USD prices so I was thinking it was 100 quid ish, but thankfully only like 80

[dusty pollen]

£85, but already sold out here too

[safe dragon]

especially on Linux where Xbox controllers are a lot more iffy

[dusty pollen]

oh tbf I've never tried using my ps4 controller on linux

I used my shitty knockoff one but I wasn't expecting much there

or maybe I tried once to bugtest a mod? regardless

[hushed raven]

The steamdeck is a fantastic controller but it relies on using VirtualHere to use as a controller, of course battry life also isn't ideal so the controller is like the ideal thing, and with first class support for using it with the steamdeck is perfect

[cinder karma]

What do u play on controller

[hushed raven]

I could get Switch Pro controllers and DualShock controllers working on the steamdeck fine, Xbox controllers I haven't tried

[safe dragon]

anything that starts with a "controller is recommended for the ideal experience" popup

sometimes I switch to kbm eventually anyway

[devout vault]

I use my xbox controller for stardew

Except for fishing

[dusty pollen]

I just use whatever kisaa yells at me to use

[devout vault]

Or placing a bunch of big craftables or something like that

[dusty pollen]

or I play programming games which are always better on kbm

[safe dragon]

you use a street fighter pad for fishing

[devout vault]

Why would I do that when I could use a guitar hero controller?

[safe dragon]

if they even have controller support at all

[dusty pollen]

did you know that's actually incorrect. trust me I've even spoken to someone who's credited as a developer on stardew valley at least once I know what I'm talking about

[devout vault]

wait, incorrect? so you're telling me it's not an xbox controller I'm using?

what kind of controller is it

have i been bamboozled by... wherever I bought it

[safe dragon]

my opinion is that game reviewers don't praise having trackpads on the steam deck enough and it's stupid that none of the alternatives released have had any

[safe dragon]

yes those popups

[dusty pollen]

so I... shouldn't use one?

[pliant snow]

Your guitar hero controller with a wiimote embedded in it might not be for xbox

[fleet wren]

iro not a real crime lord smh my head

[safe dragon]

disappointing

[fleet wren]

I bet you don't even launder money in your spare time

[dusty pollen]

I never said that! I'm just not specifically yakuza

[safe dragon]

I only launder money during work hours

[devout vault]

I am aware

[safe dragon]

Italian mafia

[devout vault]

I am perhaps more aware of how wii remotes work than... most people on this server, probably

Even in here

Thanks, wiibrew wiki

[safe dragon]

a cartel...

many options

[safe dragon]

nice

I know nearly nothing about Wii remotes beyond the obvious

[fleet wren]

I have to admit I still haven't found that many potential uses for the trackpads, but then again maybe I need to Couch more

since I do everything on a desk with a mouse nearby

[safe dragon]

putting radial menus on them for divinity original sin was great

[hushed raven]

yes! radial menus for factorio, divinity, and bg3 is so useful

[safe dragon]

for coral island I was disappointed when they added controller support cause my own hacked together steam input solution emulating a keyboard and mouse was much nicer

[devout vault]

did you know that the Wii balance board (for Wii Fit) has a temperature sensor.

Yes, temperature sensor as in how hot/cold is it.

And yes, it uses it in the calculations

[hushed raven]

same for factorio, it entirely messed up all my bindings

[safe dragon]

damn

[devout vault]

I’m not joking

[safe dragon]

we have a Wii balance board somewhere

[devout vault]

Me with Palia (back when I played it)

[devout vault]

One day I’ll get around to playing that.

Maybe.

[safe dragon]

it's an alright game

[devout vault]

You know what would be much saner than my 3d Stardew mode?

Using UEVR to make coral island be VR

But nooooooo. I had to go do things the hard way

[safe dragon]

at least it's already 3D then...

[devout vault]

Yep. And the VR injecting already has tools for it

[dusty pollen]

I know you can replace the bar with any IR emitter, including a candle

[hushed raven]

Who decided to put the balance board in the fridge to test it??

[hushed raven]

2 candles actually, you need two for it to sense location properly as it doesn't have depth sensors so it relies on the distance of the two IR sources

[devout vault]

Yep! Though you need two parallel IR lights.

And if you read the data from the Wii remote yourself, you could probably do even crazier stuff with it

[safe dragon]

coral island has all the beautiful signs of being a 3D world. On launch I watched an NPC spin in circles stuck on some stair geometry

[hushed raven]

(depth isn't used for much, I think only 2 games I had used it) XD

[devout vault]

Since it can track up to four lights, and technically can see even more

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by irocendar as #8008 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1501241963033137254)

[devout vault]

Dunno, go check the edit history on wiibrew 😛

[devout vault]

It’s important for anything using position data

Not just rotation via accelerometer

Though for full stuff with that, you need motion plus data

Motion plus as in the accessory and/or newer model

[hushed raven]

Is it? I thought it was just an almost vestigial feature, cool!

[devout vault]

The motion plus data has a gyroscope

[dusty pollen]

does the ninja thing have any fun data

[devout vault]

I think technically that’s all you would need for 6dof VR controls? So if someone implemented it you could use a Wii remote as a VR controller (such as that cursed image I’ve shared elsewhere in the past)

[devout vault]

Ninja thing?

[dusty pollen]

the thumbstick thing

[devout vault]

Oh

[hushed raven]

Numchuck?

[dusty pollen]

the only thing I remember about it is the-- yes

[devout vault]

Yeah, it’s got an accelerometer, the joystick, and the buttons

[hushed raven]

It has an accelerometer? hmm I did not know though, I thought it was just the joystick and buttons

[devout vault]

I actually poked at parsing Wii remote data at one point. I think I ended up getting up distracted at interpreting the IR camera data. I had done all the other core features of a Wii remote already though, and after that was going to try some of the extensions

It’s tricky, but you can connect Wii remotes to Windows and then parse the data yourself

[devout vault]

Yeah that’s how it measures rotation and stuff

[hushed raven]

I feel like I rememeber someone using it as a terrible IR camera for finding heat that wasn't supposed to be there, I wanna say the resolution was only like 100 pixels max and each side though

[devout vault]

It’s not great, yeah

I imagine with some tricks one could make special configurations of IR lights and with some custom code have the Wii remote be able to point in any direction

And still be “tracked”

Just like outside in VR controller tracking

[cinder karma]

How does Atlas even run opus on steam deck

[cinder karma]

I mean but also like

You can look at the pcb

[cinder karma]

Isn't that less good mouse and keyboard

Let's be honest

[hushed raven]

With magic, spite, and a handful of jank XD

[safe dragon]

if you're hooking a mouse and keyboard to a handheld device... sure

[cinder karma]

Atlas is there a way to program the tape without dragging the icons over on controller

What's your alt click equivalent?

Or ctrl click to copy and paste

[hushed raven]

the radial menu on the left trackpad with the hotkeys and the setting ingame to allow you to place them without pressing alt, the triggers are left and right click, and the back buttons are modifier keys like super, ctrl,alt, shift, right trackpad is mouse movement so I can hold the trigger and move my thumb to drag them when copying

[pliant snow]

is the radial menu a game-specific thing, or can it be set up for anything? I'll admit I've not configured my steam deck controls as much as I should

[hushed raven]

it can be for anything, it's part of the SteamInput system, so as long as steam is running it can be used, same goes for steam on a PC too

you've also got mode shifts aswell which can add another layer of the radial menu when holding down another key (I use shift mostly but other keys work, including none modifiers I think?)

[devout vault]

There's also a way to do it without steam, apparently

I forget what it's called

[hushed raven]

Oh is there? I didn't know that, nice!

[pliant snow]

oh that would be slick if there is

[safe dragon]

any game launched through steam, even if added manually

[errant comet]

steam is such a w thing

[pliant snow]

i want to love gog but steam makes it so hard lol

[hushed raven]

gog is good for drm free games, but the benefits steam has over it is hard to better

[safe dragon]

valve offering a good service instead of abusing their market position so I can't hate them

[hushed raven]

theres been so many class actions titled with steam being a monopoly, and theres a damn good reason they have most of the gaming sphere in their grasp, it's a set of fantastic products

[safe dragon]

the worst thing valve does is their monetization system for tf2 and cs2

those are terrible

[dusty pollen]

also the gambling

[hushed raven]

I have a grand total of 5 mins experience across the two, so I have zero vlue what goes on in there wasteland

[safe dragon]

that is their monetization system yes

[dusty pollen]

wait that's exactly what you said

[errant comet]

I still kinda hate that some free games from steam still require drm

[safe dragon]

they are arguably one of the worst offenders when it comes to putting gambling in games because you can sell the result for steam wallet credit which has actual extrinsic value

[errant comet]

even if launched from the file

like obs :(

[dusty pollen]

OBS the streaming tool?

[hushed raven]

obs is on steam?

[errant comet]

yeah and yeah

[dusty pollen]

don't get that from steam! it's open source software

[safe dragon]

I was not aware it's on steam

[dusty pollen]

you don't even have to compile it yourself

[hushed raven]

I also cannot find it on steam at all

[dusty pollen]

also is the version on steam the real one or the one that got sued out of using the name

streamlabs iirc

[hushed raven]

but yes, obs stands for Open Broadcasting System (?) it's completly open and free and honestly, so damn good I love it

[devout vault]

but then it tell me how many hours i have in it

[errant comet]

im not sure why I got it there

but I like it

the thing that it needs steam open to run is

[devout vault]

and then steam complains when i left it open on another computer and try to open something else on my current computer

[errant comet]

only con

[safe dragon]

aseprite would go bankrupt if everyone used arch and the AUR...

[hushed raven]

-# get millenium, it has a plugin that does that.... very nice thing

[dusty pollen]

the streamlabs one is a closed source fork that got sued for calling itself OBS despite being a fork

[errant comet]

mango on a fork

[dusty pollen]

and had to change its name to Streamlabs OBS

[errant comet]

pretty sure this one I have is legit one

[safe dragon]

smh eating mango with a fork

[hushed raven]

Mango is sticky, I will eat it with a fork if I so damn well choose to

[dusty pollen]

can you send a screenshot?

[errant comet]

19 hours too

[errant comet]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1905180/OBS_Studio/

Steam

OBS Studio

OBS Studio is a free and open source program for livestreaming and video recording.

Create scenes with multiple types of video sources, including your computer display, video games, webcams, video files, and more.

Stream your video productions on sites like Twitch, YouTube, or Facebook live, or record your videos locally to share.Features

• …

[heavy dagger]

Title result: OBS Studio on Steam

[dusty pollen]

oh damn that IS the open source one lmao

[hushed raven]

Apparently I have it in my library too... hmmm

Oh steamdeck, that's why I have it, doesn't get affected by the read only filesystem if installed through steam itself

[errant comet]

oh apparently I just hit 400h in sdv

interesting

[safe dragon]

continues to fascinate me

middle english...

[devout vault]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[hushed raven]

Wait what... Middle english??? I fear I may need it for my weird obsession with dead languages

[safe dragon]

lmao

[errant comet]

I wish!

[safe dragon]

unfortunately I assume it's a software bug but I will check

[errant comet]

but my friend no longer want to play with me

[cinder karma]

Google thinks k = boltzman constant

[hushed raven]

isn't k shorthand for any unknown constant in many physics related things? I feel like I remember going over it when talking about E=mc^2 in phys

[safe dragon]

Officially the enm language code refers to Middle English (1100 -1500). However, for English subtitles of Japanese anime, enm subtitles often marks an alternative honorifcs track.

it's not middle english

sorry to disappoint

I did doubt that anyone was subtitling K-On in middle english

[dusty pollen]

upsetting

[devout vault]

you know what you have to do now

[safe dragon]

truly beautiful how middle english looks so much like modern english

[devout vault]

As we all know, japanese honorifics were stolen from middle english

[safe dragon]

step 1, learn a new language

[devout vault]

so are you actually watching K-On?

[devout vault]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh more like half a new language

[worn remnant]

if you're going to do middle english subtitles, at least go all the way to middle. don't cop out at shakespeare/early modern

[safe dragon]

I already watched K-on many years ago. I'm just building up an archive of stuff that was either part of my childhood or otherwise good enough to keep

cause streaming sites will die someday

or at least stop offering it

if you go by the netherlands... a fair bit of it is already inaccessible

[errant comet]

top ten reasons why I love pixel composer

[safe dragon]

image graphical image format

[errant comet]

it acn speak my lagnuige

[fleet wren]

verily, doth thou be knowledgeable of this matter, lord Izuko?

[safe dragon]

wait it's graphics interchange format

I'm stupid

[devout vault]

-# um actually it's graphics interchange format

[safe dragon]

I did figure that one out

a little late

[safe dragon]

I actually have no idea who izuko is cause I have not watched this show (monogatari series) but I'd assume izuko would be a lady

wow is this not even a real japanese name

just googling izuko just gives you this person's fandom wiki page

She is known for her claim to "know everything".

[devout vault]

but does she actually

[safe dragon]

idk man I'm already taking a massive risk being on a character's wiki page

[devout vault]

...is it not a show you already watched

[safe dragon]

intentionally did not look at the info card or I'd have seen fucking "status: dead" or something

I just said I hadn't watched this one

I have watched k-on but this is the monogatari series

both had middle english subtitles

[devout vault]

I never watched that one

[safe dragon]

many moons ago I watched 2 seasons of it

it's bizarre

but interesting

maybe izuko was in those seasons I wouldn't know

I barely remember a thing about that whole experience

I have 3 computers all going full force encoding everything to AV1

[hushed raven]

112 files per day? wow thats a lot

[safe dragon]

that will slow to a crawl very soon

when it won't have anything to do 99% of the time

[hushed raven]

Whats the dashboard software? like the look of it

[safe dragon]

FileFlows

have it running on my server with my pc and laptop currently connected as extra processing nodes to churn through em quicker

[hushed raven]

Oh it also supports audioprocessing and Ebooks! have a feeling I'll be using it in the future then

[safe dragon]

it's pretty nice

[hushed raven]

What's it look like adding other devices as processing nodes? hopefully somewhat easy? especially given my PC is my powerhouse rather than my server

(I can't find reference to it on the site but I may be blind)

[safe dragon]

no GUI it's just a command you run

in my case I'm using a little docker compose file for the processing nodes which is just

services:
  fileflows:
    image: revenz/fileflows
    container_name: fileflows
    restart: unless-stopped
    hostname: bubo-bubo
    environment:
      - ServerUrl=https://fileflows.tail3acb7.ts.net/
      - TempPathHost=./tmp
      - FFNODE=1
    volumes:
      - /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock:ro
      - ./tmp:/temp
      - ./common:/app/common
      - /mnt/bubo-home/Media/:/media

you orchestrate the rest via the actual server

[hushed raven]

Ahh just found the right page in the docs, that seems very nice, Id say my computer can do thing much faster than my server so this is grand

[safe dragon]

with the free version you can only have 1 node enabled at once

but it's still handy

and it can still be external

[hushed raven]

I dream of the day I can get a AMD EPYC CPU for a server XD

ehh my PC is really the only thing that would be decent at it so one node is fine for free

[safe dragon]

an epyc cpu for a home server gives the same energy as building a kubernetes cluster with load balancing for it

[hushed raven]

certainly bragging rights for sure, but extra cores can't hurt, the hole in my bank if I buy one though will hurt quite a bit

[safe dragon]

haven't tried anything yet with the ebook stuff

or comics

looks like the most complicated file flow ever

[hushed raven]

Theres so many branches to handle, so complex

[pliant snow]

What does your video flow look like

My flow is somewhat complicated, where I still want it to remove stupid embedded titles and junk, but then I cant skip files if theyre already in the right codec

[errant comet]

anyone have a silly wav I could use for some testing?

thats too funny idk why 😭

[hushed raven]

you can scale it by the volume is that?

[safe dragon]

I still encode even if it's already AV1 because my download sources tend to be on the archival side of things and use extremely high quality settings that result in files that are at least twice the size of what they need to be

If you don't want to encode, can't you just skip the "Video Encode" node and still do the rest

nothing about the ffmpeg flow requires there to be a video encode step

actually

Also even though you didn't ask, these are my Video Encode Manual parameters libsvtav1 -preset:v 4 -crf 25 -svtav1-params tune=0:keyint=10s:enable-variance-boost=1:sharpness=1:tf-strength=1:luminance-qp-bias=25 -pix_fmt yuv420p10le

[rain apex]

I like ur colorful diagrams but I feel like this is stuff I just make a python script for

[safe dragon]

you could

it would not be nearly as nice as this tool and can do far little but it would work

[pliant snow]

I got a windows laptop from work

Do they not have virtual desktops

Or are they terrible

[safe dragon]

they do

there's even a button reserved for it in the task bar

never in my entire life have I used them

it just ain't the same

[pliant snow]

Im so used to them on a laptop

[safe dragon]

well they exist

it calls them desktops not workspaces but same thing

[hushed raven]

They used to be the only way I could acess task manager when a program refused to minimise from fullscreen XD

[errant comet]

yeah!

a bit silly cuz for some reason its a vector2 value

maybe its stereo

which is cool

[little furnace]

Not really. As far as I know you can't really have different wallpapers and shortcuts there.

[safe dragon]

its' the same thing but done poorly

🌈

[devout vault]

I don't know if it works this way for what y'all are comparing to, but with the Windows ones, opening a file that opens an app will switch workspaces to the one that is in.

So if I have notepad open on multiple workspaces but not my current one, and I open a txt file in explorer, it'll switch to one of those other workspaces

Super annoying

[hushed raven]

oh that's horrible

[devout vault]

...oh wait, I was wrong.

It's worse

Desktop A has notepad, desktop B does too

Select anything except notepad on desktop A

Go to desktop B and select notepad

Go back to desktop A (where whatever you selected in step 1 will be the default window), open explorer, and open a text file

Congrats, you are on desktop B!

[lethal walrus]

hhh codeberg pages is down again thats fun

i wonder if i can selfhost codeberg pages/pages.gay...

oh i can just
set this up on coolify prob lmao

[hushed raven]

I have never heard of pages.gay/besties.house, I'm glad I have heard of them now XD

[lethal walrus]

i dont use them for anything but seems cool

👀 https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify-examples/tree/v4.x/astro

an example of how to do astro with coolify perfect

[cinder karma]

I hate how cadence handles workspaces

In that it doesnt

Regularly it will just put up a window in whatever workspace has focus

And not the one the cadence process is running in

Pisses me off

[errant comet]

atlas give me some idea or thing to make in a pixel composer I wanna practice

and then showcase it somewhere maybe

[hushed raven]

Hmmm, I still have yet to use it but given you can use the volume of an audio track for scaling, why not make an animation with the speed dependant on the volume? Whether that's possible I do not know, but it seems like it out be similar to the visualiser programs that were all the rage in 2010 XD

[safe dragon]

this just sounds like the setup for one of those "shrek but every time x the video speeds up" videos

[hushed raven]

the best kind of videos

[errant comet]

audio and video thing is kinda new and unstable but I can try coming up with something

[hushed raven]

damn game maker is a deb file, gotta figure out how to install that before building pixel composer

[cinder karma]

.deb? Debian?

[hushed raven]

yep, it's only provided as a .deb and not on pacman or aur which is a shame

[fleet wren]

found this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gamemaker-beta-bin

[lethal walrus]

is it a deb thats names a zip or is this a different file

-# oh, debs are just zips arent they

[hushed raven]

Not another lie from yay, that happens unusually often

[lethal walrus]

nvm the url lied to me it is a .deb

[fleet wren]

-# I guess technically debs are zips

[lethal walrus]

well yes

[red crest]

insert Calvin and Hobbes comic about how every file is either a zip or an executable

[hushed raven]

jar files are another zip-but-not-zip, it's not the simplest thing XD

[lethal walrus]

why walmart of all, like thast just terrible regional targeting

[red crest]

I would place that under "executable" in the comic

it's not the original comic

[hushed raven]

but it's both which is more confusing

[cinder karma]

Aren't docx

[lethal walrus]

docx is too

waht about self extracting 7zip archives

[red crest]

forgive the crunchy meme best I could find on short notice on mobile

[cinder karma]

I have no idea what that means

[rain apex]

Is minecraft cave story or earthbound

[red crest]

I mostly chose that one because it has Stardew

[long verge]

me neither

[cinder karma]

Is opus cave story or earthbound

[red crest]

cave story

[devout vault]

terraria

[red crest]

terraria is an earthbound

[cinder karma]

What about wii sport

[fleet wren]

not indie

[cinder karma]

What about nine sol

[rain apex]

Cave story

[hushed raven]

If I understood the scheme, earthbound

[errant comet]

😭

[rain apex]

No it's cave story imo

[cinder karma]

What about wordle

[errant comet]

this is so broken but I love it lol

[hushed raven]

it's amazing XD

[safe dragon]

perfection

[long verge]

reminds me of

[devout vault]

spelunky

[long verge]

[devout vault]

(and does it differ between classic, HD, and 2)

[red crest]

as far as i know, wii sports was developed and published by one studio without outside funding or creative control.......

[safe dragon]

they managed to gain early access to the wii by accident of course

[red crest]

Spelunky is earthbound

[hushed raven]

Why is gamemakers default font size so abysmally small, I have to be so close to figure out why this is failing to compile

[safe dragon]

how is spelunky not cave story

[cinder karma]

Silent hill?

[red crest]

despite being a story in a cave, spelunky is earthbound

[devout vault]

Game maker as in Game Maker Studio?

[lethal walrus]

they expect lots of errors, so you need lots of capacity

[hushed raven]

yrp

[devout vault]

(I wonder if the font size thing is not handling DPI properly)

[fleet wren]

"is Valve indie" the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate

[red crest]

silent hill is cave story

[safe dragon]

people had better eyes back then

[devout vault]

Crumble I think Atlas is talking about current versions

[lethal walrus]

if a company grows to be considered non indie, at which point did they leave the indie category

[devout vault]

Not ye olde ones like I had used

[cinder karma]

Spirit airlines?

[devout vault]

...is there a spirit airlines game?

[hushed raven]

The text is half the size of discords text, I can count the pixels, and there are only 5

[safe dragon]

I think spirit airlines is dead

[hushed raven]

I am indeed talking about the current version XD

[safe dragon]

so it's probably earthbound

[cinder karma]

Tax forms simulator 3000?

[safe dragon]

The airline announced that it would cease operations effective May 2, 2026, at 3:00 a.m. EDT

it is indeed dead

[devout vault]

Can't wait for Afterlife Airlines

[hushed raven]

there's Tax Heaven 3000 which, contrary to the name, is a daiting sim

[devout vault]

Would One Chance be earthbound or cave story

(Fun fact, I have never played either)

[devout vault]

Atra has posted that here before

[hushed raven]

damn I'm too late

[errant comet]

okay this is my final version 😭

thats like the only good gif I had lol I need more sdv gifs

[hushed raven]

I need to be signed in with opera to make an executable??? wtf???

[long verge]

The humble windows 1600% magnifier could help you with that

[safe dragon]

please enter your creditcard number to export as executable

[lethal walrus]

oh so that opr.gg download link was opera wtf

[hushed raven]

I would like to stay as far away from windows as I can XD

[lethal walrus]

https://gamemaker.io/en/blog/learn-about-gamemakers-future-and-how-we-fit-in-at-opera-q-and-a ... right

[errant comet]

whats opera

isnt it like some browser

[little furnace]

Can you change it?

[hushed raven]

and of course it uses a custom language, so I have to learn a whole new lang just to fix the errors, I miss working in langs I know

[devout vault]

...when did they get acquired by Opera???? (I ask, as if the date isn't sitting from and center in that article)

[lethal walrus]

e of several browsers

[errant comet]

wait how did it compressed a 33mb wav to 3kb..

[little furnace]

They were the first to use tabs, as far as I know. They were really innovative. And then they switched to Chromium.

[lethal walrus]

opera mini, opera, opera gx

opera 1!

[hushed raven]

not that I can see, would help ig the text wasn't so small, I might be able to find the right setting then XD

[errant comet]

I see

[safe dragon]

I shall ask chatgpt for the answer cause how else would we find out

[little furnace]

Vivaldi is the new Opera.

[devout vault]

so true (@ Crumble)

[hushed raven]

I don't XD

[safe dragon]

Vivaldi is earthbound

[long verge]

GameMaker compiler is not appropriate for children, please scan your ID to confirm you're a grown ass 🇬🇧

[devout vault]

Nobody ever answered about the hit game I last mentioned

[safe dragon]

cause idk the game

[devout vault]

If you don't know what game that is, you must live under a rock

[errant comet]

I mean roblox is kinda implemented that already

[cinder karma]

I do live under a rock

[errant comet]

so gamemaker is two steps behind

[devout vault]

How could you forget about the global sensation, https://spacechase0.com/games/one-chance/

[cinder karma]

What game.

[little furnace]

Wait, the meme never specified video games. What about board games?

[cinder karma]

Ticket to ride?

[hushed raven]

can't change the font size but can override the DPI, what a mess XD

[devout vault]

as long as it is an indie board game

Shout out to my old game maker MP test game, which somehow had several seconds of latency... on localhost

(using 39dll of course)

[safe dragon]

great game

I'm very impressed

[devout vault]

...I mean the linux build is from 2013

[safe dragon]

lemme install sfml

[devout vault]

I'd be surprised if it did work, considering linux

It's an old version so uh

Good luck

[safe dragon]

alas

[devout vault]

Also, that version is much harder than the later version

[long verge]

2013 was 13 years ago holy

[devout vault]

(the version that is windows only)