Wait, how do you know what a console is?
#programmers-off-topic
little furnace
The first generation of home consoles went from 1972 to 1976.
Well, it was produced until 1983, but the second generation started in 1976.
steel kraken
I did have one of those ancient atari's and grew up with the commodore 64 amiga
little furnace
I did have one of those ancient atari's and grew up with the commodore 64 amiga
You mean, both C64 and Amiga?
steel kraken
You mean, both C64 and Amiga?
specifically amiga, not sure what model as I was <8 at the time
little furnace
Consoles were made then as well. I think the PS2 was in planning stage then.
Oh, and we can't forget the second-best console of all time, the Sega Dreamcast.
steel kraken
I enjoyed my pipeline of Amiga -> (OG) Xbox -> Xbox 360 -> PC gaming
with the parallel tracks of GBA, GBA XP, (OG) DS, and then also wii->wiiu->switch->switch2
though I technically did pc gaming during the xbox/xbox360 era as well
steel kraken
I mean the switch 2 was last year and at least docks to be a console
steel kraken
hardware wise, xboxs were always just single purpose PC's from memory, and PS4+ is pretty vanilla hardware wise as well from memory, the PS3 had something interesting going on I think, even if the early ones could run linux fine
the reentry profile of artemis 2 where it effectively bounced off the atmosphere to spend more time in that thin atmosphere was cool
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cinder karma
Good morning!
What's your third favorite video game console and what game do you play on it?
little furnace
What's your third favorite video game console and what game do you play on it?
My third favorite video game console is the Switch 2 and I play The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart World on it.
rain apex
What's your third favorite video game console and what game do you play on it?
snes, emulator
That era was peak pixel art imo
sand frost
I’ve never used a console
I think
I’ve definitely never owned one
I made my husband explain what it was a while ago but I’ve sort of forgotten
safe dragon
gamer
little furnace
snes, emulator
That one is included in my favorite console Wii U because you can homebrew that to run RetroArch (not to mention that you can inject arbitrary titles into Virtual Console releases) (disclaimer for mods: ROMs can be acquired legally by backing them up manually; I do not support or encourage piracy).
little furnace
I made my husband explain what it was a while ago but I’ve sort of forgotten
It's a PC that is locked down like iOS so you can't sideload and you can only use it for games. It's pretty cheap because the manufacturers earn by receiving a generous license fee on all software that is sold (hence the lack of sideloading).
If I made that sound awful, that's kinda because it is.
sand frost
I was confused because I thought a switch was a console, but also consoles are often just little boxes you have to connect to a TV?
a switch you can just play on, no TV needed
i mostly know that you can get xbox controllers because people use them for robots
little furnace
I was confused because I thought a switch was a console, but also consoles are o...
It's like PCs. Some have a screen built in (Switch, like laptops), some don't (small boxes). A Switch also supports a docking station for bigger screens, like a laptop.
drowsy kestrel
I was confused because I thought a switch was a console, but also consoles are o...
Yes. You can plug a Switch into the tv, but their biggest selling point is that they're basically a mini portable console, like a Nintendo DS sorta if you're familiar with one of those at all
So Switch works like a console in the plugging into tv and then using controllers or whatever, but it can be used as both. You just leave the part that stays plugged in into the tv while you hold the screen part
Gifs for visuals
sand frost
I know what a switch is because I took a design class once where someone was making alternative shaped handles for it
I think that because i grew up with iMacs my idea of "what a computer is by default" is a little wonky
like yeahhhh I guesss the windows boxes are computers, but they're like weird faceless computers
devout vault
Yeah the whole point of the switch was kinda that it combined nintendo's standalone console line (n64, gamecube, wii, ...) with their portable one (gameboy, DS, 3DS, ...)
dusty pollen
I know what a switch is because I took a design class once where someone was mak...
basically any shape is better than the current shape 😭 the switch is what happens if your solution to ergonomics is "no"
sand frost
The person doing this had very large hands and mentioned it was clearly not designed for this
safe dragon
my maybe controversial opinion is that with the exception of the Wii remote, Nintendo has never made any ergonomic default controller
the joycons are an affront to ergonomic design that's for sure
designed for hands no larger than my 3 year old niece's
cinder karma
I dont really know waht a switch is tbh
dusty pollen
thing you use to turn lights on and off
cinder karma
Oh like a relay
sand frost
A mysterious expensive handheld device, like a phone but only plays certain games
hushed raven
I thought the convo was indeed about an actual electrical switch and not the gaming console during my skim
little furnace
my maybe controversial opinion is that with the exception of the Wii remote, Nin...
The N64 controller was 100% ergonomic for people with 3 hands!!!
little furnace
To be more serious, I think the GameCube controller and the Wii U gamepad are both kinda ergonomic, but the latter is very heavy.
But I love the placement of the sticks on the Wii U controllers.
Wii U Pro Controller (the gamepad was similar):
I've only found one other model with sticks like these, and I had to import these from China for 45$ shipping.
Still testing how good they actually are, because the controllers themselves only cost 20$ each. I might start importing them commercially if they are good.
crystal wren
A controller I actually quite like is, no joke, the Stadia controller.
And no, I gave them no money for the service or hardware. It was towards the end when they were just giving it all away with a Chromecast I kinda wanted.
pliant snow
The Wii U pro controller is maybe my favorite controller ever
problem is they're a massive pain to get paired to bluetooth
little furnace
problem is they're a massive pain to get paired to bluetooth
I can recommend the one I got, which is similar.
It's the successor to that one, but I can't post it because they decided to give it an AI-generated printing:
It has Bluetooth and supports PCs as well. They don't advertise that one as for PCs, I don't know why. The next model is explicitly compatible to PCs and... PS3?
cinder karma
basically any shape is better than the current shape 😭 the switch is what happe...
Half of you sit like you have a person vendetta against ergonomics
little furnace
Half of you sit like you have a person vendetta against ergonomics
...that hits like you have a personal vendetta against me.
devout vault
Half of you sit like you have a person vendetta against ergonomics
Have you even seen 10% of the people here's sitting posture.
Or seen them, period
cinder karma
little furnace
I have no idea what he's doing with his paws, but this is Alexander right now:
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steel kraken
Half of you sit like you have a person vendetta against ergonomics
Steam controller 1
hushed raven
I was not a fan of this version at all, it's way to far out from usually controller design to be comfortable to me which is a shame cause they're somewhat decent
steel kraken
That and I did enjoy the ergonomics of the wiiu gamepad
cinder karma
But how do u sit
sand frost
upside down, sometimes
hushed raven
Terribly, usually in a way that causes my joints to not joint jointly
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sand frost
generally my only solution to my poor posture is to try swapping regularly between different forms of poor posture
so that it all evens out
dusty pollen
I have an excuse for having poor posture and I will overuse it til the day I die
rain apex
is your excuse you are a beagle
sand frost
is your excuse that a beagle is sitting on you
dusty pollen
neither :( but my excuse is that my spine decided to take the somewhat scenic route
dusty pollen
is your excuse that a beagle is sitting on you
duke likes the IDEA of being cuddly and will occasionally make an attempt to, only to remember that he wants everyone to leave him alone
but also give him attention
he's awful and we love him
a bastard
prisma flume
augh youtube is upping their ad warfare again. wretched website keeps failing to start videos
hushed raven
Experiencing interruptions? Find out why
Youtube, you are why, stop being greedy and work
worn remnant
it's so Cool™ when you search for a thing you know by name, click on the result, and about 50% of the time it just Doesn't Load and you have to sigh and hit ctrl+R and roll the dice again
sand frost
this is why i won't give them money
every time they push harder i get more determined
prisma flume
google does not get my money. spotify does not get my money. none of you advertising premium swines get my money
fleet wren
the new puzzles are EVIL INCARNATE
this must be what it's like to perform surgery on grapes
and according to the histogram this solution ||sucks in all 3 stats|| which begs the question of the ||LITERAL DEMONS|| I'm going up against
anyway ooh dog
sand frost
surgery on grapes is not actually that difficult, it's more of a hand-eye coordination exercise
you get a screen showing you what's up
and the tools naturally are calibrated to do small, delicate movements
the suturing itself is something that certain improves with practice, but picking up/moving stuff isn't that hard
cinder karma
and according to the histogram this solution ||sucks in all 3 stats|| which begs...
I love the hex arms!
cinder karma
I have to ask
I've played a video game with a controller like once in my life
Is this normal
rain apex
if ur on computers yea that seems normal
prisma flume
imo third-person games are generally better on controller, probably because first-person games are generally awful on controller so console-first developers put more effort into making them playable instead
safe dragon
my apparently controversial opinion is that precision platformers are almost always much better on a keyboard than a controller
in Celeste I constantly accidentally went diagonal when I didn't intend to or went straight when I intended to go diagonal on a controller
on keyboard that has never happened because you have much better control and tactile feedback on what you're inputting
a joystick is too imprecise and using the dpad sucks too
little furnace
a joystick is too imprecise and using the dpad sucks too
I feel like the D-Pad works better on controllers that were optimized for it, like 16-bit controllers.
But otherwise, I kinda agree. I also kinda don't, because in Hollow Knight for example I wish I had been able to move in more than eight directions.
little furnace
Controllers are only good for fighter games
What about racing games?
errant comet
I tried forza and it's fine too yeah
Halo was pretty tough to get used to
Minecraft was okay
safe dragon
HK isn't a precision platformer in my mind but I also don't think I agree having more than the 4 directional movement it uses would help much
little furnace
HK isn't a precision platformer in my mind but I also don't think I agree having...
Counter-point: Path of Pain (it was painful)
little furnace
I'm looking forward to playing that, but first I need to finish HK.
hushed raven
I won't stand for this type G plug slander, it's one of the best plug types!
cinder karma
Good morning!
crystal wren
I won't stand for this type G plug slander, it's one of the best plug types!
The best and most painful!
cinder karma
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your third favorite controller
Hi DH! Long time no see
crystal wren
It has been a bit!
cinder karma
Oh! And what's your second favorite plug
hushed raven
The best *and* most painful!
Stepping on them is certainly not recommended XD
errant comet
Why plugs are so painful out of all things
cinder karma
Smh
errant comet
Like they were intentionally made this way
hushed raven
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your t...
I don't think I could have a second fave game that's better with a controller, that's such a hard thing to figure out XD as for plugs, probably type D or K because of the ground pin and somewhat stable housing compared to the US and EU plugs (A and F)
ruby vigil
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your t...
Second favorite that is better with a controller is probably darksouls 3, no idea what my third favorite controller is.
cinder karma
It's so quiet today
dusty pollen
yeah, it's weird
vestal dove
I'm about to pop with frustration, is anyone willing to help me with android? I can't find my config files with zarchive
rain apex
!androidsmapi
indigo mistBOT
vestal dove
That discord is in Thai? It's not a compatibility issue I'm just flunking finding the folder in Zarchive
dusty pollen
This channel is for non-SDV-related programming, but we recommend that server for all android SMAPI troubleshooting because we don't know much about it here. You can try asking in #modded-stardew though because a couple people there use it too.
And yeah, the server is in Thai because Narathip, the creator of the android SMAPI port, is Thai
vestal dove
Ty
little furnace
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your t...
Some of your questions read like you want to make fun of people with too many hyper-specific opinions 
Third favorite controller might be the Dreamcast controller.
I have no idea about the other question though, I don't really know which games are better with or without controller, because I usually only play one way or the other (my laptop has an in-built keyboard, my Switch an in-built controller, I'm too lazy to use anything else).
steel kraken
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your t...
Holocure, and Xbox elite controller gen2
steel kraken
Yes
safe dragon
I've heard good things about it
steel kraken
Highly recommend
safe dragon
What's your 2nd favorite video game that's better with a controller, and your t...
Ori and the will of the wisps, Wii remote
cinder karma
Good mornings!!!
cyan shadow
Ori and the will of the wisps, Wii remote
I misread this as Ori and the Wii of the Wisps 
safe dragon
the wisps don't even have hands
hushed raven
They need the xbox connect then
hushed raven
why is there a half an hour time difference between me and you? are you in one of those weird 30 min timezones?
little furnace
why is there a half an hour time difference between me and you? are you in one o...
That message was posted half an hour ago.
cyan shadow
the wisps don't even have hands
Telekinesis
cinder karma
I'm making garlic bread i don't have to put up with this nonsense 
hushed raven
Garlic bread is so good, you making just regular garlic bread or a herbed and/or cheesy g bread?
cinder karma
little furnace
Garlic is good. Garlic is love, garlic is life.
Wario’s micro-tip: Is garlic gross and smelly? Wrong! It’s perfect.
-# Nintendo
hushed raven
Youtube has just started playing a movie on autoplay... I wasn't watching anything like the movie it's put on!
cinder karma
Assume you live in a world where you have to walk 5k for each video game. What percentage of your steam library would survive
little furnace
Of the ones I actually play? Probably all of them. Of all of them, including the ones I have never touched? 0.2%
rain apex
Assume you live in a world where you have to walk 5k for each video game. What p...
i still need clarification on the rules here cus
cinder karma
I've done more walks than games i own in steam by two orders of magnitude
rain apex
can i not just walk 1k a day
cinder karma
I'm only counting 5k+ continuous walks/runs
little furnace
I bought new hiking boots yesterday, I can't wait to try them out.
cinder karma
Look I'm watching the opus tourney stream while doing laundry and then I need to lift weights and then I need to move money from one bank account to another
little furnace
and then I need to move money from one bank account to another
Now I know why you want us to touch grass. It's all connected.
fleet wren
Assume you live in a world where you have to walk 5k for each video game. What p...
i die
cinder karma
> and then I need to move money from one bank account to another
Now I know why ...
(I dont get it?)
little furnace
(I dont get it?)
Honestly, neither do I. It made sense in my head, but now it doesn't anymore.
I think because "grass" is a remote slang for money in German. But not well-known.
cinder karma
I've done more walks than games i own in steam by two orders of magnitude
If i get to count each 5k segment (ie a 10k counts twice) I'm probably over three orders of magnitude
cinder karma
It suddenly got cold lol
I was all about to turn on the AC but then cold! So I baked bread
little furnace
It is decided: Wingspan is the game of the year of all years for introducing me to the American Woodcock.
rain apex
Meep
cinder karma
I see why selph says this one sucks
this is my solution so far.
I'm about to toss most of it and start bricking ngl
today's actual solve:
cinder karma
this is my solution so far.
so we can see here
4x earth. 4x water. 1x of air and fire. 7x salt. this means I will need to calcify some
there's three inputs that can avoid debonding.
for sanity I think the calcify should be for the animus
I don't need to calicfy I'm just tired
maybe I do.
do I need 17 atoms total
jesus christ
fleet wren
spoiler: ||yes you need dump one||
cinder karma
Waste chain time
cyan shadow
https://youtu.be/4Owj52XhoxI
meep
safe dragon
wtf
I'm working from my mom's today and just saw my work firewall warn me that it blocked a network request from Valve
apparently when my mom boots up her steam deck it sends a network request to other devices on the local network?
probably for stuff like game streaming or for downloading games from other PCs on the network
was a very confusing notification to receive
"I swear it wasn't me gaming during work it was my mom"
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long verge
"I swear it wasn't me gaming during work it was my mom"
Same vibes as "My dog ate my homeworks" 
cinder karma
Did she get a bath
safe dragon
nope very oily
she's a maine coon
she looks deceivingly small here
she's technically my sister's cat but she's staying here till my sister settles into her new house
long verge
gosh I love when my headset randomly die
safe dragon
glad you could experience it
long verge
glad you could experience it
Having to replace my phone, my airpods AND my headset in a single month is trully a delight
safe dragon
🙏
pliant snow
probably for stuff like game streaming or for downloading games from other PCs o...
Yeah, I bet it's that ability to download games from other devices on the same network
prisma flume
i can't even imagine how a boardroom team at youtube inc. decided that this weird builtin scrolling list of recommendations in the video was the way to go
you try and scroll down the page after watching a video. you want to see the rest of the page. you cannot. it is stuck scrolling the video
dusty pollen
same people who put important links in footers and then make the page infinite scroll
prisma flume
i've also noticed the only way to make the video fill the window is if the window is ever so slightly smaller than 1920x1080. any larger than that and the video will always shrink to include the video title
errant comet
lowk hate footers with all my heart
prisma flume
just baffling
errant comet
just put everything on header or sidebar which stays or can be hidden
long verge
you try and scroll down the page after watching a video. you want to see the res...
true
hushed raven
same people who put important links in footers and then make the page infinite s...
Paged over forever scroll for me for sure, especially when you open something on said infinite scroll then go back a page and it sends you right back to the top, utter utter evil
cinder karma
Gooood morning
hushed raven
Good morning/afternoon
prisma flume
i'm fine with footers. it's like a business card for the website. only someone really interested is scrolling that far down
now what i do resent is the modern trend of putting a fullscreen jpeg at the top of every page that does nothing but make you scroll down to see if the page is useful (it isnt)
hushed raven
Footers are usually my most frequented place on websites because the "Contact Us" page is usually down there
also the trend of having images way too big with only 5 words max in a 1080 window, horrible design
Xiaomi is a porime example, there is no need at all
safe dragon
I fully blame apple for that trend
hushed raven
Actually this page has so many of my website dislikes XD https://www.mi.com/uk/product/xiaomi-15/
vertical scrolling that's interrupted by horizontal scrolling
vertical scrolling interrupted by a weird half video half scroll thing that you have to scroll too many times to get passed
and not being able to fit all the info you'd want in one place on screen
hushed raven
I fully blame apple for that trend
I too blame apple, it was the site I went to first but it seems like they've improved slightly, not by much but better at least
long verge
Apple website is not that bad actually
It's easy to navigate there's too much information tho
hushed raven
those kind of sites are the reason I have my browser take up only half my screen, and even then sometimes they aren't formatted to display correctly ahem xiaomi ahem
safe dragon
I too blame apple, it was the site I went to first but it seems like they've imp...
that's how it goes. Apple does something stupid, every other company under the sun copies it cause apple did it. Then apple realizes it was stupid and then stops but everyone else keeps doing it
prisma flume
at least it's showcasing their product rather than just a scenic vista of a beach or a couch or something
safe dragon
though just go to the iPad 11 apple page
safe dragon
it still does fucky scrolling
hushed raven
if an image on a site takes up the entire screen, it should be a background image, I will not budge on this ever
safe dragon
part of it is that desktop PCs became a second class citizen for many websites
frosty echo
Let's trash our good website and replace it with a barely adequate so-called replacement that's slightly better for mobiles somehow but entirely worse in every way
safe dragon
at least the text is easily big enough for my mom to read
now they just have to stop using gray text on white backgrounds
hushed raven
The amount of professional websites that don't adhere to basically any accessibility guidelines is astonishing
steel kraken
After working on accessibility stuff on some work sites for a bit, I got used to just living at 75% zoom because of how huge the fonts want to be
safe dragon
watching my mom blindly click on a form to find a checkbox she needs to check that is light gray on white
it radicalized me
contrast is good
hushed raven
Even though I personally don't really need more accessible websites, I'd have to be dead before I stop thinking about even the most inconsequential unaccessible thing (except languages which i forget about a lot)
safe dragon
After working on accessibility stuff on some work sites for a bit, I got used to...
then there's an old work application in Microsoft access with no ability to zoom with font size 8pt
genuine nightmare
hushed raven
jail to whoever thought that was a good idea
cinder karma
Xiaomi is a porime example, there is no need at all
I find this pretty
What are you doing in their website anyways
safe dragon
generally I believe it's recommended to stick to somewhere between 14-16px on websites for regular content
cinder karma
I use gsmarena to find new phones
hushed raven
I have had issues with gsmarena being unreliable with information on phones, so I usually fact check against the manufacturers website aswell, gsmarena's filter though, amazing when the specs are correct
cinder karma
Tbh.... I'm pretty cheap when it comes to phones, it's not like I need a powerful one
Or one with a good camera
prisma flume
i wanted one with a nice big screen. unfortunately now those are heavy. there's now a very phone-shaped outline of wear in every pair of pants i own
hushed raven
My criteria are IR capabilities, and ~100W charging, IR specifically is something not often advertised
prisma flume
international relations
hushed raven
yep infrared, I have a lot of things that use infrared remotes so having it on my phone is very useful
cinder karma
We were summer last week and we then went back to early spring
prisma flume
fall is bitterly indifferent
cinder karma
I.....don't own anything that uses an infrared remote
hushed raven
it's usually my first go to for electronics projects over internet connectivity due to it being cheaper and less susceptible to external mingling with other devices
safe dragon
I.....don't own anything that uses an infrared remote
a television?
hushed raven
but it also helps because the TVs I've had use it and buttons are lost often in this house
cinder karma
a television?
Nope!
little furnace
Tbh.... I'm pretty cheap when it comes to phones, it's not like I need a powerfu...
I've heard Nokia makes good, sturdy phones.
Quote from my lecture: "The true spirit of a programmer is that they are really lazy at typing."
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little furnace
Apparently it was about how i = i + 1 annoyed programmers so much that they first introduced the incrementing shorthand i += 1 and then, because that was still too much, i++.
little furnace
Tbh.... I'm pretty cheap when it comes to phones, it's not like I need a powerfu...
What about that one?
devout vault
Does it also run Hannah Montana Linux
little furnace
Does it also run Hannah Montana Linux
That's x86 only, unfortunately.
cinder karma
i wanted one with a nice big screen. unfortunately now those are heavy. there's ...
Get a folding screen. Or a purse
frosty echo
Or a tablet, or a laptop
devout vault
That's x86 only, unfortunately.
Just run the OS itself through FEX! taps forehead
cinder karma
Mrow?
cinder karma
Apparently it was about how `i = i + 1` annoyed programmers so much that they fi...
Then ++i gets to be different lol
devout vault
i++ and ++i have different semantics though 😔
devout vault
I assume you understand why though
hushed raven
I have heard of i++ but not ++i, I use i++ more than I probably should, finding out lua doesn't have that was a terrible realisation
little furnace
I refuse to use i++ even in languages that support it. Python was right about that.
cinder karma
Some dialects of verilog support it and some dont
hushed raven
I see how ++i is faster than i++ cool!
cinder karma
So I'm really inconsistent at work but I'm also so fjcking tired and wont be fixing that
little furnace
So I'm really inconsistent at work but I'm also so fjcking tired and wont be fix...
Ask AI to fix it 
cinder karma
Ugh I need to hire a better dentist tbh
hushed raven
Ask AI to fix it, dental treatment powered by the cloud
pliant snow
I still have never listened to the song even though it's 100% my genre.
... the mysterious song?
slim mantle
Anyone want to find a cat pictures...
Me have kitty :D (the photos might be a bit older though lol)
devout vault
I see how ++i is faster than i++ cool!
Unless the compiler has optimizations on and can tell it won't make a difference either way 😄
though if it's C++ not C and you overload the operator on a custom type, that probably won't be the case
Not as awful as overloading && and || though
Since doing so just makes short circuit evaluation no longer work
little furnace
... the mysterious song?
Yeah, that one. That is no longer mysterious.
pliant snow
It's a good song
cinder karma
I'm surprised how few opus magnum gifs cross this channel these days
sand frost
The bridges stole some attention
devout vault
Clearly we need procedural opus magnum level generation, so people never run out of content
fleet wren
it has steam workshop support
cinder karma
The bridges stole some attention
I'm trying to get all of the achievements but certain bridges oh my gid
fleet wren
anyway i will try to rectify this by posting from gifs from my hoard tonight
cinder karma
I have unlocked the garden
devout vault
I read that as "Brain needs help focusing" and just thought "same, dude. same"
cinder karma
lethal walrus
updated ubuntu and my taskbar is "fixed" now from the plasma deletion incident
but its taller now :(
oo dolphin is rounder
:O hovering into windows doesn't freeze anymore!
dolphin has a dolphin on it??
safe dragon
the future
cyan shadow
dolphin has a dolphin on it??
A friend
lethal walrus
oo bouncers slow on this one
pliant snow
You can shorten the bar if you prefer
lethal walrus
i did a tiny bit yeah
vernal sentinel
pliant snow
dolphin has a dolphin on it??
What icon set is that? I changed my dolphin icon to a rainbow one i found, but I didnt know there was an actual dolphin...
Looks like breeze
safe dragon
turns out webps are a lil smaller than pngs
pretty wild. Sometimes it's like 16 times smaller
using like 90% quality on webp which requires me to zoom in really close to even tell a difference
devout vault
-# for those who care: there is apparently pumpkin cowboy merch
safe dragon
pumpkin cowboooooy
devout vault
A pin, and a sticker sheet
little furnace
For most purposes WebP is now the best format: it supports lossless, lossy and animation, is smaller than most competing formats and has broad support.
safe dragon
but have you considered that if jpegxl had won we'd have jxl files aka jixels
which I find amusing
jxl and webp are very close I believe
I did see there's a webp v2 in the works too
pliant snow
Nah, I'm big on avif now
It's got wide support now, supports animation, ive seen massive improvements over png
safe dragon
avif is another one that seems pretty good
little furnace
but have you considered that if jpegxl had won we'd have `jxl` files aka jixels
It is slowly winning. But it's only 5 years old compared to WebP's 15.
safe dragon
my choice was made for me tho cause FileFlows only supports webp of those 3
pliant snow
I thought you could run arbitrary command thru it, you just need your know how to invoke it
safe dragon
probably but that's effort and does still require something to be installed that it could use which is more effort
unless imagemagick supports avif by default
jxl requires a special build
it does support avif out of the box
lethal walrus
avif was great for https://sneeb.fans
safe dragon
an important usecase
lethal walrus
made most of them like 30% smaller from the jpgs
safe dragon
unfortunately this fails for me with a CORS error
lethal walrus
disable your thing blocking discord.com
cinder karma
Avif is great for not killing discord
little furnace
avif was great for https://sneeb.fans
What's that?
lethal walrus
its just a site hosting cat pictures lol
little furnace
I can't open it.
little furnace
safe dragon
the number is my new improvement!
devout vault
avif was great for https://sneeb.fans
why is this website just "424 loyal followers of the sneeb". Am I missing something
(I am aware of the sneeb, I don't need that context)
lethal walrus
why is this website just "424 loyal followers of the sneeb". Am I missing someth...
good question
you see this is a problem of "get decent domain idea, and then a mediocre site idea afterwards"
blame atlas
devout vault
lame
lethal walrus
other hit websites in this vein include https://stardewvalley.org/
and https://transgender.boo/ of course
rain apex
you see this is a problem of "get decent domain idea, and then a mediocre site i...
Can u add some sneebs
To the user counter
rain apex
Just surround the number with sneebs
lethal walrus
hmmm
rain apex
Or maybe have a random one as page bg
lethal walrus
remind me in 14 hours to look into this possibility (maybe make it deployed from an action to compile the sneeblist™ at build time).
heavy daggerBOT
How Can Time Be Real If Our Timers Aren't Real? (#7153286) (14h | <t:1776771607>)
lethal walrus
uber dont let me down this time
lethal walrus
other hit websites in this vein include https://stardewvalley.org/
pls ca llc dont send me an udrp dispute thank u
devout vault
what is your vision here
a sneeb per active user
lethal walrus
okay i like that
devout vault
lethal walrus
@simple dragon can we teach pngs to onyx
simple dragon
Onyx has never known a thing in her life, but you're welcome to try
lethal walrus
so what if i did something like this but every time a message is sent there's a sneeb https://codepen.io/Mark_Bowley/pen/PozwyP
simple dragon
snubbles...
lethal walrus
snubbles...
simple dragon
Snorbs floating free
lethal walrus
to sneeb freely
simple dragon
She is, as we speak, sneebing
simple dragon
Seems hazardous
lethal walrus
simple dragon
I am already in such danger with a single snorb
cinder karma
Tbh I'm kidding on the goose but
simple dragon
It's creature dinner in ten minutes, which of course means dinner is clearly late and she's going to eat me and/or mrrp pathetically
cinder karma
One of mom's friends has chickens
devout vault
Can't wait for all the Sneeb spinoffs to meet in Into the Sneebverse
simple dragon
There's already so more sneeb lore
devout vault
so more
cinder karma
How goes Mozart
little furnace
What's a sneeb?
lethal walrus
kaileys cat
simple dragon
What's a sneeb?
cinder karma
Technically many cat are sneeb
little furnace
This is the cutest little sneeb I have ever seen.
simple dragon
Sneeb is a title or perhaps a variety of beast, there is much lore
This one is the original sneeb though. Sneeb prime.
cinder karma
How are her claws going
simple dragon
She's not technically due for a trim yet but I'm probably going to wrangle her soon because the biscuits are becoming hazardous
little furnace
How do you trim them? I've heard that it can be dangerous, so I have never tried it for my cats.
simple dragon
Anyway her actual name is onyx, but she has a small cult of mod authors under the title Sneeb (as one does)
simple dragon
How do you trim them? I've heard that it can be dangerous, so I have never tried...
I just kinda descend upon her like a flying squirrel and put her in a headlock while on all fours on top of her
She'll tolerate it up to a point without a fight but I need to keep her from scuttling away mid trim
little furnace
How do you know how much you can trim? I know that they have nerve endings somewhere in the claws, and I was always unsure how much I could trim, so I never tried it at all.
simple dragon
There are visual guides you can look up, it's not too hard to tell where the quick is. As long as you're trimming conservatively it's reasonably safe
devout vault
How goes Mozart
He's been neglecting me 😔
devout vault
Sneeb is a title or perhaps a variety of beast, there is much lore
when are we getting the official sneeb lore compendium
simple dragon
I've been on kitty knife confiscation duty for years so I can do it upside down wrangling a tomcat
simple dragon
when are we getting the official sneeb lore compendium
She wails it via the song of her people every morning at 6 am
little furnace
There are visual guides you can look up, it's not too hard to tell where the qui...
Yay, thank you. It's never really been necessary for our cats, but it's good to know in case we ever need it.
devout vault
I just kinda descend upon her like a flying squirrel and put her in a headlock w...
that sounds like a recipe for getting a clawed everything
devout vault
She wails it via the song of her people every morning at 6 am
that's the audiobook version
simple dragon
If you do it right they're both immobilized and incredibly confused, so you have a combat advantage
I'm usually starting on the second paw by the time she figures out wtf just happened
devout vault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQCP-5g5bo
little furnace
I am not going to ask any questions.
errant comet
I watched 20 hours worth of documentation and guides for godot and gdscript three months ago and I don't remember anything 😭
dusty pollen
I just kinda descend upon her like a flying squirrel and put her in a headlock w...
duke needs to be sedated for these at the vet now 😭 because he is, as always, a pest
simple dragon
He is a bit big for the flying squirrel manoeuvre
simple dragon
onyx, to her great peril, is like nine pounds. this does not deter her from trying to fight the vet.
cinder karma
Bella was an angel :(
simple dragon
She exclusively fights the vet. And mirror cat. Everyone else is cool in her book.
cinder karma
Morning, iro!
simple dragon
However the vet is very experienced and will simply pin her with one hand while she looks all indignant
dusty pollen
duke fights the vets, and mirror beagle, and other dogs (provided they can't actually get to him because he's a coward), all boxes of all kinds, his food bowl, and threatens all delivery people,
dusty pollen
Morning, iro!
night!
cinder karma
Bella was kind to everyone
A bit of a scaredy cat sometimes
But she never fought anyone
simple dragon
Onyx has never actually inflicted injury on anyone, she just poofs up like a pompom and growls because it's very important that everyone knows she's a terrifying apex predator
Especially the vet, who keeps poking her and telling her she's rotund (rude!!!)
dusty pollen
duke will gladly fight anyone as long as they're safely on the other side of a gate
look at this young man. does he look like he could win a fight?
safe dragon
I'm afraid my mom's cats will resort to actual violence if it avoids being put in the evil torture cage (carrier)
dusty pollen
oh duke has a fantastic solution for being made to go places he doesn't want (mostly the one groomer he hates)
it's to drag himself and whoever is with him directly into the road
safe dragon
a drastic solution
dusty pollen
She is highly susceptible to being kidnapped
what is she not highly susceptible to
cinder karma
I'm afraid my mom's cats will resort to actual violence if it avoids being put i...
Cat tax
safe dragon
u already asked today
cinder karma
Awwwww
safe dragon
Duke Drastic
lethal walrus
You mean the family surname isn't Cendar??
safe dragon
terrifying
lethal walrus
irosurname- oh
dusty pollen
it's been passed through the generations
cinder karma
Duke doesn't look criminal
dusty pollen
that's because of the fraud, atra
safe dragon
don't judge a book by its cover
cinder karma
Duke could definitely convince me on second breakfast
dusty pollen
look he's terrifying! definitely a criminal
lethal walrus
Duke could definitely convince me on second breakfast
What about third breakfast
fleet wren
anyway i will try to rectify this by posting from gifs from my hoard tonight
as promised one (1) gif from my vintage collection
devout vault
She *exclusively* fights the vet. And mirror cat. Everyone else is cool in her b...
Mirror cat is spy sent by the vet, so that checks out
devout vault
I'm afraid my mom's cats will resort to actual violence if it avoids being put i...
Maybe the real torment nexus was the thing we were travelling in along the way
you could probably pull some actual value from such a statement, but I'm being overly silly as per normal, do not take me seriosuly
steel kraken
rip tim apple
prisma flume
quite the apple turnover
steel kraken
Oh the new CEO of apple is named John. John Apple is going to be a thing 
safe dragon
excellent
the era of Tim Apple has ended
it's John Apple now
guess they're sticking with CEOs from engineering backgrounds
though John Apple is more engineer-y
steel kraken
From the hardware division which is their current main strength
safe dragon
plot twist would be that it was him who put the magic mouse charging port at the bottom
or removed the power button from their headphones
or that really bad keyboard they immediately backpedaled on for the next macbook...
heavy daggerBOT
remind me in 14 hours to look into this possibility (maybe make it deployed from...
@lethal walrus: look into this possibility (maybe make it deployed from an action to compile the sneeblist™ at build time). (14h ago)
hushed raven
yay! it didn't let you down
cinder karma
I like the theory of the arm inside the output pity it doesnt make it faster
I think i need two arms inside the output
lethal walrus
<@!718881941465596026>: look into this possibility (maybe make it deployed from ...
Good job Uber!!
Remind me in 2 hour to the above
heavy daggerBOT
But of course, dear p.llow (#7154068) (2h | <t:1776783904>)
safe dragon
sounds like an error
devout vault
or that really bad keyboard they immediately backpedaled on for the next macbook...
am I the only person in the world who kinda liked the touchbar (if it hadn't cost the F1-12 keys, anyways)
hushed raven
you're one of two of the only people, If there was a customisable touchbar and function keys, it would be amazing, no more using FN to change volume on the keyboard, a blessing
little furnace
That sounds nice, but F-Keys are important for things, and the current Macbook I'm forced to use doesn't have it, so I have no idea whether I would have liked it.
prisma flume
i use f2, f3, f5, f6, and f10 far too often to ever use a keyboard without them
it's like a keyboard without home/end or rctrl. just why
hushed raven
I just wish the volume, media, useless buttons like mail, home, and calc weren't on the function keys
little furnace
I just wish the volume, media, useless buttons like mail, home, and calc weren't...
ThinkPads have at least volume and brightness on the arrow keys.
hushed raven
Thats only marginally better because it an be done with one hand XD
fleet wren
it's like a keyboard without home/end or rctrl. just why
clearly not a real hackers smh my head
real hackers use 40% keyboards and at least two layers of macros for the missing keys
cinder karma
Real hackers use vim on a phone keyboard
hushed raven
I've just learned that portal 2 community edition came out very recently and it has portal 1, 2 and half life 2 available as campaigns you can play in it!
I love that source games are very nearly perfectly interoperable
devout vault
For what it's worth, you can also configure the touchbar to show the F# keys. But then you lose the fun part of said touchbar
safe dragon
I didn't actually mean the touchbar I completely forgot that ever existed. I meant the butterfly keyboard
heavy daggerBOT
Remind me in 2 hour to the above
@lethal walrus: the above (2h ago)
hushed raven
I've just learned that portal 2 community edition came out very recently and it ...
VSync does not stay on which is slightly annoying, but it's only minor screen tear
safe dragon
switch to Wayland ez
hushed raven
I am on wayland, the game is X11 though I think XD
safe dragon
damn....
hushed raven
yep x11, good old xeyes
safe dragon
I didn't actually mean the touchbar I completely forgot that ever existed. I mea...
like that extremely thin basically 0 travel keyboard that was also way more prone to failure
hushed raven
There are so many things that wayland has issues with that I didn't realise I used, autoclicking, global hotkeys that aren't for the DE, Why are these not able to be done nicely wayland???
safe dragon
the latter can be done through the global shortcuts desktop portal but it'd require the application and your distro to support it
the former... no idea
i didn't even know it didn't work
hushed raven
because of the way wayland handles mouse input (according to a person on reddit, and another person who made an x11 autoclicker) you can't actually register clicks without some janky work around that only works on some mice
safe dragon
the global hotkeys thing not working is mainly due to Wayland's keylogger protections. The desktop portal allows an application to request being told when a specific keybind is used
devout vault
I've just learned that portal 2 community edition came out very recently and it ...
...why HL2?
hushed raven
I'll have to look into the portal thing, I very unfamiliar with them but it would be quite useful to know for the future
hushed raven
...why HL2?
to get ready for HL3 of course
devout vault
I'll let you have your HL3 copium. I've got a prescription on Steam Frame hopium, after all
safe dragon
since the global shortcuts portal is kind of new some distros/window managers have an alternative solution too
hushed raven
I'll have to see if river has an alternative, I imagine so, but it seems a lot of stuff was lacking last time I looked at it
safe dragon
hyprland for example has this https://wiki.hypr.land/Configuring/Binds/#classic
which works without the application needing to be aware of it
don't think niri has anything next to the official portal support
hushed raven
Oh that is very nice, I didn't know it had that, I kinda want to go back to hyprland but I know I'd rather have all floating windows over two tiling monitors
safe dragon
global shortcuts have been one of the many Wayland debates that went on for years too long
frosty echo
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1kkuafo/wayland_an_accessibility_nightmare/?sort=old not what I was looking for, but close enough
Linux turning into the "we know better than the user what they need", the kind of thing they've always insulted Windows/Mac for
safe dragon
a similar blog post about this spurred a lot of changes
cinder karma
I'll let you have your HL3 copium. I've got a prescription on Steam Frame hopium...
I was abour to make a joke about a steam controllers being a valve but I think Valve made that joke already
safe dragon
Wayland accessibility is still pretty terrible unfortunately
and any protocol to improve it would probably get stuck in at least 5 years of bikeshedding
hushed raven
while I get why it's a thing, but it shouldn't come as a detriment to accessibility, it's kinda baffling how it's prevented in it's entirety
hushed raven
It's a shame you'd need an extra device to be able to be accessible, usually at a decent cost
safe dragon
Wayland suffers from the same issue flatpaks do sometimes where they desperately try to enforce security standards where they get really in the way
with no escape hatch
hushed raven
I have made my displeasure with flatpaks known before, and there will not be a day where I won't go on and on about how much I dispise the sandboxing
frosty echo
When your computer is so secure that even you can't use it...
And it's not like Linux was insecure before....
safe dragon
Linux desktop wasn't/isn't exactly super secure
lethal walrus
When your computer is so secure that even you can't use it...
computer can't be hacked if there's no computer to be hacked
hushed raven
it gives the same vibes as rotating passwords, the idea is secure, but the implementation causes lazyness and wanting an easier way and so leading to less secure passwords overall
safe dragon
almost everyone who works somewhere with a regular mandatory password changes is just going to start incorporating something predictable into it so they can remember which one is the newest one
frosty echo
So just have a thing like Android or whatever, some way of telling it that whatever program is safe and allowed to send/receive keystrokes or whatever
safe dragon
I believe security folks no longer recommend it
hushed raven
about time, There was a service I used (don't remember which) that required rotating passwords, I got so fed up with it and having to think of a new password I just stopped using it, given I don't remember the name, guess I must not've missed it that bad XD
safe dragon
So just have a thing like Android or whatever, some way of telling it that whate...
that is the idea behind these desktop portals but in Wayland fashion it moved at a snail's pace with everyone arguing about the most insignificant little details.
(With GNOME in the corner saying they fundamentally disagree that it should even exist because they personally don't like it)
hushed raven
gnome is canonnical right?
hushed raven
Oh I thought it was, Would've made sense if it was
safe dragon
once upon a time it was part of GNU
hasn't been in a long time
unfortunately while GNOME has been losing popularity it's still far too popular to discard all their nonsense
hushed raven
especially given RedHat and Ubuntu are large linux userbases
cinder karma
almost everyone who works somewhere with a regular mandatory password changes is...
At work i need to 2fa into the server
safe dragon
yeah though Ubuntu desktop is effectively dead to anyone except older folks who don't feel like moving away
safe dragon
idk
cinder karma
Cat tax?
safe dragon
not at my mom's
cinder karma
Awwwww
safe dragon
GNOME my beloathed...
though it's not like Wayland would suddenly move quickly if they vanished. We'd just have removed the most annoying "stakeholder"
the fastest way to get something in Wayland as far as I can tell is for Valve to want it
hushed raven
I feel like I remember someone needing to update their OSS stuff for valve or they'd fork it but I don't remember who, I wanna say KDE?
safe dragon
idk, valve and the KDE foundation work pretty closely together
considering it's the desktop of choice for steamos
hushed raven
Thank you valve for being the sole reason I swapped to linux by showing everything I do is actually possible on linux
fleet wren
re: wayland, I severely miss the ability to open a zip file, drag the file from the archive viewer into a file manager and have it miraculously extracted into the file manager
if you try to implement that kind of interoperability in Wayland they send ninjas to your house
don't get me wrong I'm still not going back to X but still lol
hushed raven
is that just a you thing selph? cause thats what I do all the time, I didn't know that was something that some people can't do?
Do excuse the visible pixels
fleet wren
last time I tried drag and drop it never works properly for me
I think Ark and Dolphin works but only that pairing, and file manager into Firefox borked long ago
hushed raven
Ahhh gotcha
those are the two I use, Still haven't tried nautilous, and now that I know what to change to make pixel art not anti aliased in dolphin I don't think I want to XD
safe dragon
re: wayland, I severely miss the ability to open a zip file, drag the file from ...
don't worry you have 10 years before they decide on the exact ninjas to send
pliant snow
Do excuse the visible pixels
copying between different dolphin windows... madness... I am a strong advocate of their Split feature
hushed raven
the split feature has been touch and go, not too much of a fan, especially when I can just had two windows with is effectively the same
long verge
don't get me wrong I'm still not going back to X but still lol
Also does anyone knows how to disable the stupid middle button to paste ?
There’s an option do disable it in settings but it does not work for every apps.
Apparently it’s due to some app using XWayland but I didn’t find any fixes 
devout vault
Every time I wonder if I should give linux a more serious try, this channel reminds me that it'd be waaaaaay too much effort long-term
devout vault
no
cinder karma
I try
devout vault
I think atra has an addiction to pretty chemistry game gifs
hushed raven
Pretty chemistry game gifs are very addicting
lethal walrus
does it mean in the centre of each set of nested squares.. or in between the two outside ones
frosty echo
I think there's only really one nested set there
cinder karma
I see 2
hushed raven
There is defo two nested sets, I would assum it means the centre of each set, not the combined centre of both
frosty echo
I expect the one at the left is meant to catch out bots, and the obvious one is the one you're meant to be looking at
lethal walrus
There is defo two nested sets, I would assum it means the centre of each set, no...
you could only click once!
hushed raven
being this
theres loads of nested squares in this one?? wtf
every time I fail a captcha is another part of me that begins to believe I am infact a robot
hushed raven
you could only click once!
Then I am utterly clueless 
lethal walrus
i am too! it just gave up and gave me a "drag this thingy to its shadow"
hushed raven
those ones I can do because it relies on the movement of the mouse rather than the actual ability to complete it perfectly
one thing I will always have over robots is caffine jitters 
cinder karma
Is this a color blindness test
lethal walrus
i guess it kind of is
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #7938 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1496208034735591435)
pliant snow
Also does anyone knows how to disable the stupid middle button to paste ?
There...
It depends on your DE, but there should be a setting
lethal walrus
tysm
cinder karma
Pretty chemistry game gifs are very addicting
It's a very pretty game
dusty pollen
looks up what's going on with my arch install
"are you doing partial upgrades?"
...mayBE >:(
sigh
ew 3.3GB paccache
cinder karma
I still think @crystal wren should make a Framework mod
dusty pollen
aquo I'll have you know this is all your fault (me having to do a system upgrade)
lethal walrus
i wonder if theres a way to have like.. preprocessing macros in obsidian
i want a count of my domains 😭
pliant snow
Theyre finally adding a touchscreen
lethal walrus
pliant snow
One package has taken the whole thing down
Wow framework has a queue to even view the site atm
lethal walrus
oh no they're doing slightly confusing prefixes now
but i guess just one "pro" isn't that bad
pliant snow
Speakers that dont fire down, what a concept
safe dragon
a new laptop?
cinder karma
Framework pro yeah
safe dragon
it's pro cause of the speakers
safe dragon
3 pro features
pliant snow
someday I'll cave and get the really garish transparent bezels and keyboard
safe dragon
I already have a framework laptop I am very much happy with
cinder karma
God i will never buy anything electronics meant for gamers
Or chairs tbh
Plz, no backlights or leds
pliant snow
no GPUs
cinder karma
Do i need a gpu
pliant snow
depends
fleet wren
Opus Magnum 2 will be 3D raytraced you hear it from me first
cinder karma
I thought Zach became a CS professor
pliant snow
he shut down his studio only to turn around and found a new game studio
dusty pollen
I don't believe in laptops that are younger than 10
safe dragon
what a sad world we live in
dusty pollen
oof
pliant snow
Do i need ram
dusty pollen
in case any of you think I'm kidding 😌
lethal walrus
so you get like 200gb of ram!
safe dragon
a lot of systems don't generally launch if you don't at least have like half a gig of actual real genuine ram
safe dragon
I don't believe in laptops that are younger than 10
my previous laptop has passed the 10 years now...
it's finally real
dusty pollen
finally acceptable
dusty pollen
in my defense, this laptop has a state-of-the-art intel i5 5300U
lethal walrus
much more affordable
lethal walrus
i am i think
dusty pollen
uhm neovim? in this channel we only use vi /j
safe dragon
I use treesitter...
pliant snow
apparently the nvim-treesitter plugin is now archived... I gotta find a new way to load them
I think I can just install the right packages? and it'll work?
safe dragon
wtf
dusty pollen
what's treesitter
lethal walrus
LSP thingy
dusty pollen
also aquo what python linter do you use
lethal walrus
Tree-sitter is a parser generator tool and an incremental parsing library. It can build a concrete syntax tree for a source file and efficiently update the syntax tree as the source file is edited. Tree-sitter aims to be:
dusty pollen
YES it's working and I just had to uninstall proton-hotfix to make space
safe dragon
a code parser combinator used primarily for either syntax highlighting or for context dependent editing actions like "delete the function body"
dusty pollen
"upgrading linux" god I love linux. system upgrades remind me that every time
safe dragon
apparently the nvim-treesitter plugin is now archived... I gotta find a new way ...
idk man you presumably just need to put the grammars and the likes in the correct spot?
the .scm files and stuff
safe dragon
ur using linux mint in secret
lethal walrus
it took me too long to realise usd as in united states dollar
dusty pollen
what if when you updated wine a windows update thing came up
safe dragon
I got a popup yesterday from our vulnerability scan thing at work warning the current version of windows 11 had like 140 known vulnerabilities
dusty pollen
- it's windows 11
safe dragon
I've since updated again so I'm safe for now
dusty pollen
are you saying they were all patched
safe dragon
other than a low risk vulnerability in inkscape cause of the python version it's using apparently
dusty pollen
or that you're safe from the popup
pliant snow
also aquo what python linter do you use
I was using basedpyright, but have been trying out ty
pliant snow
idk man you presumably just need to put the grammars and the likes in the correc...
I probably can just use the arch packages then, and it will detect it. I was using a plugin to handle the installation, but I wasnt sure if it was doing some other configuration under the hood to get it working
devout vault
crypto. just say no
okay I know people are joking about it being $, but it's ALSO a 3d scene format...
What is it actually in this context
Since I doubt you're using a 3D OS
devout vault
Pyright? I thought there were only pywrongs?
safe dragon
washedpywrongs
devout vault
just hating on Python as per usual
safe dragon
did the jellyfin client I'm using get archived or have I been using a half done experimental client....
the latter it seems
that explains why I can't do the basic thing of closing fullscreen with escape
or the time the subtitles were suddenly gigantic so I could only see 2 letters
safe dragon
idk it was called flatpak-desktop so I just used that one
idk if I really thought about it
lethal walrus
except for the new nintendo wii client
safe dragon
can't believe u didn't already know
cinder karma
Nintendo wut
lethal walrus
homebrew
devout vault
except for the new nintendo wii client
im sorry the what
lethal walrus
oh you dont know what a wii is
so its like a gamecube but a bit overclocked
THE WEBSITE IS SO COOL
pliant snow
i have in fact installed the wii jellyfin client and have been trying it
devout vault
I don't even know what jellyfin is
lethal walrus
media streamining selfhost thing
i dont use my wii, wii u or my jellyfin server but this is still hmm
devout vault
I keep seeing a video in my youtube feed about a new PC dongle for using the Wii U gamepad
lethal walrus
you have a vi
pliant snow
what happened to the other half of your wii
pliant snow
I don't even know what jellyfin is
A self-hosted streaming service
safe dragon
like plex but not evil
(idk if plex is evil I have never used it cause people were already switching to jellyfin by the time I set my server up)
cinder karma
I'm not sure what a Nintendo wii is
heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
a hip new console from 20 years ago
lethal walrus
does it mean in the centre of each set of nested squares.. or in between the two...
i got it again, the correct answer is the center of the weird smeary squares it seems
weak obsidian
(idk if plex is evil I have never used it cause people were already switching to...
I don't believe they're evil (?)
But its just safer to do it self hosted
like you mentioned with Jellyfin
At least you own your media
cinder karma
Reddit
cinder karma
Gooooood morning
cinder karma
wow, 2 mors generators, I didn't think of that
May I add u on steam?
For histogram compare purposes
fleet wren
why u never added me
long verge
I love middle click paste
No it's ass 
dusty pollen
I love middle click paste
starts rant about how it's not actually paste but a separate registry
prisma flume
At least you own your media
afaik it's perfectly possible to have a local NAS delivered by Plex, dad's vast media storage empire has plex at the frontend. though he's mentioned jellyfin a few times so hell if i know what's going on behind the curtain
all i know is i hate networking and networks
heavy daggerBOT
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uncut seal
May I add u on steam?
Why not, I'm sending you the friend code in dm
fleet wren
I wonder if they'll stop lol, or they'll continue until the main campaign is 10% of the actual game
lmao the latest page's lore is that ||"You can't invent guns with the physics of our universe, stop trying"||
cinder karma
today's
||first time I've used halt outside that one puzzle||
it's not the ||first time I should have used it...but the first time I did||
fleet wren
||halt makes for very convenient solutions when metal/element duplicating glyphs are involved and the Wheels aren't available||
cinder karma
It's a little catalyst!
cinder karma
I opened one of the new puzzles and just....why is it that input:output ratio?
cinder karma
I'm gonna try to do a solve a day and let's see how long that lasts
So quiet today
Everyone actually programming?
cinder karma
No one trying to sell anyone on a Framework?
I'm trying to get DH to make a Framework mod
It's ||just a laptop as a furniture item ||
fleet wren
I need the Cloud to give me the Computers i need faster
I was running this SQL query that was taking 30 min
||turns out my credentials was dropped 25 min ago and nothing was executing||
safe dragon
No one trying to sell anyone on a Framework?
we already have them now there's no point
cinder karma
.qp I own a framework
rain apex
It used to be my daily driver
But i think the cmos battery is dead and I'm too lazy to fix it rn (I'll do it one day...
cinder karma
I need to Arch my personal laptop ngl
How are y'all??
Okay, what about.....which Linux distro
....I can't even like start a conversation on Linux distros
What about cats
Nail polish?
little furnace
Nail polish?
Pink 🩷
little furnace
How are y'all??
Fine, just trying to relax and sleep before the next morning lecture. What about you?
cinder karma
Yelling at the stupid 2fa
little furnace
Will you be able to fix it? Or at least sign in?
weak obsidian
Okay, what about.....which Linux distro
ive been busy, wish i replied sooner
im doing good tty for asking
cinder karma
I'm signed in it's just a stupid system. I have to 2fa into a server that can only be accessed on the local network
So dumb
...can I sell u on pretty chemistry game?
weak obsidian
I need to Arch my personal laptop ngl
are you wanting stability or new features?
If you're going arch-based, then go Cachy OS, you can easily manage your kernel (or go onto an LTS cachy OS kernel)
On my laptop I run the LTS kernel only
cinder karma
are you wanting stability or new features?
If you're going arch-based, then go ...
Stability would be great. I'm using a very old laptop that is getting quite slow
weak obsidian
which is linux 6.18
weak obsidian
Stability would be great. I'm using a very old laptop that is getting quite slow
What specs
For stability, debian/devuan (devuan if no systemd) is the best
for new features but still stable..id say maybe fedora?
i mean its not bleeding edge but its more taxing on very low end laptops
cinder karma
I dont recall lol but it essentially is an i5 from 2018 or so with 12gb of RAM and integrated laptops
weak obsidian
cachy os is extremely optimized
beats debian in speed, since, well, less stuff, and optimized for your hardware
weak obsidian
I dont recall lol but it essentially is an i5 from 2018 or so with 12gb of RAM a...
hmm
id recommend arch
an i5 u can go to debian
cinder karma
I check email and place stock trades a like
Haven't played a video game made after 2018
weak obsidian
I check email and place stock trades a like
Hmm, yeah Id say debian
cinder karma
Or anything 3d
little furnace
Uwuntu!
weak obsidian
do you prefer KDE or GNOME?
cinder karma
I used Cinnamon lol
little furnace
Or Nyarch.
weak obsidian
I used Cinnamon lol
If you're comfortable with Cinnamon, go ahead and use it
cinder karma
Also a Pink and an Orange. Can we acquire the rest of the rainbow
weak obsidian
Debian allows I believe most desktop environments
weak obsidian
Are you a init/openrc warrior
cinder karma
Laptop has a (broken) Ubuntu partition
weak obsidian
if u are, then let me know in advance
some people dont want systemd, which is pretty much every distribution has
cinder karma
I'm not sure what those are
weak obsidian
I'm not sure what those are
good, then use debian
weak obsidian
essentially its an orchestrator, it knows when to start things when the system boots, which services run in the background, and how services are monitored and restarted if they fail
cinder karma
Or I could go back and fix the stupid Ubuntu issues
weak obsidian
essentially its an orchestrator, it knows when to start things when the system b...
systemd
weak obsidian
Or I could go back and fix the stupid Ubuntu issues
id recommend no ubuntu if your using a desktop
id recommend debian over ubuntu for stability
im an ubuntu hater, dont ask me questions about ubuntu, its only good for the web, not the desktop (my personal view)
safe dragon
normally I'd discourage anyone from using Debian but eh I doubt a missing WiFi driver would be much of a barrier to you...
weak obsidian
normally I'd discourage anyone from using Debian but eh I doubt a missing WiFi d...
For no gaming and no activity but browsing
Debian is usually the case for them
I wouldn't encourge debian if you had a cpu newer than 2020
maybe 2022+
cinder karma
normally I'd discourage anyone from using Debian but eh I doubt a missing WiFi d...
Yeah I had to fix that on laptop before this lol
safe dragon
I use Debian on my server but on desktop I always end back up on arch
cinder karma
Legitimately though....why do you hate Ubuntu?
weak obsidian
Debian is probably easier since I'm used to apt and friends
Debian: The old stable rock, it works, but it doesnt have latest stuff, but as l ong as your not on a bleeding edge setup, you are fine
Fedora: The middle point, its stable, but it get new features very fast, no where near as stable as debian
Arch: You are a lunatic, like me
weak obsidian
I use Debian on my server but on desktop I always end back up on arch
arch btw?
little furnace
Debian: The old stable rock, it works, but it doesnt have latest stuff, but as l...
openSuse?
safe dragon
Ubuntu
weak obsidian
Legitimately though....why do you hate Ubuntu?
It's a bit clunky for me personally, and it has a lot of telemetry, sure I can disable it, but i dont like it
However, I love using their servers, they are great
safe dragon
my shallow argument against Ubuntu is that I think itself default color scheme is very ugly
weak obsidian
Manjaro is the key to having a broken OS in the next week, at least some people depict it as such
weak obsidian
my shallow argument against Ubuntu is that I think itself default color scheme i...
I don't like how they customized the DE
cinder karma
I recall....I thibk the last time I did Ubuntu I installed server and then added cinnamon
weak obsidian
I recall....I thibk the last time I did Ubuntu I installed server and then added...
Cinnamon looks nice, works, pretty stable, huge technical debt, but thats only for the latest tech
safe dragon
also don't really like snaps
weak obsidian
GNOME is great, but its macOS but for linux
cinder karma
Cinnamon looks like windows 10 lol
safe dragon
gnome is evil...
cinder karma
At work we use Red Hat
weak obsidian
also don't really like snaps
hey, crumble, let's not use slurs in this chat, okay? im very uncomfortable that you brought up the word "snap", that's against my vocabulary
you are banned
cinder karma
I think i might want to go for a tiling
weak obsidian
snaps are propietary mess
safe dragon
join the niri cult
weak obsidian
flatpaks are great, but not for everything
appimages are great
i love appimages
all apps i distribute r in app images
cinder karma
Tbh cachey (sp?) might be fine
weak obsidian
Tbh cachey (sp?) might be fine
cachey sp whats that
safe dragon
flatpaks are alright if the sandboxing isn't a pain in the ass
weak obsidian
I think i might want to go for a tiling
i tried to use my friends once
i couldnt figure out how to open an app 😭
safe dragon
cachyos niri version for atra
cinder karma
(sp?) just means I'm unsure of the spelling
weak obsidian
flatpaks are alright if the sandboxing isn't a pain in the ass
I prefer sandboxing, but it can be annoying
very, very, annoying
weak obsidian
cachyos niri version for atra
ahhh
cinder karma
We use Red Hat at work lol
weak obsidian
We use Red Hat at work lol
solid work
stable as heck
using for general public? never
i assume they're on glibc 2.17
cinder karma
Xfce I think as the windows manager
weak obsidian
most companies on red hat are on 2.17
cinder karma
I'm absolutely nit using xfce shit is so unstable
weak obsidian
I'm absolutely nit using xfce shit is so unstable
xfce is very stable, its used in all bsd systems
gaming on it is another story
id recomend not to game on it
safe dragon
don't think xfce is surviving the Wayland transition
cinder karma
I literally spent a week at work with no functioning windows manager because I had long running sims open and xfce had half crashed
weak obsidian
don't think xfce is surviving the Wayland transition
it has to, every BSD system is dependant on it, well
its not dependant but, its used extensively
cinder karma
Pissed me off so much
weak obsidian
I literally spent a week at work with no functioning windows manager because I h...
never run games on xfce
or sims, nothing
safe dragon
never run in xfce only walk
weak obsidian
xfce is supposed to be for networking
thats it, i dont give it any more credit than being the interface for servers
weak obsidian
Just to be clear....sims as in simulations
Ohhh!! hmm, wow thats weird
safe dragon
thunar is a pretty nice file manager
weak obsidian
thunar is a pretty nice file manager
its good
dolphin is superior.
i stand on that rock
sand frost
I used to run 2 week simulations that loved to crash a week in