We have to be mindful of pointer sizes too. These are architectures that assume long is 32-bit
#programmers-off-topic
white turret
That was the pointer width at the time
And on rare occasions we find the function that requires UB to match because the dev did an oopsie but the compiler happened to generate working code
Those are always funny
Super Mario 64 has what I think is the most famous example (its not BLJs before you ask)
A certain game mechanic in SM64 works the way it works solely due to UB
s32 act_air_hit_wall(struct MarioState *m) {
//...
if (m->forwardVel > 8.0f) {
mario_set_forward_vel(m, -8.0f);
}
return set_mario_action(m, ACT_SOFT_BONK, 0);
}
#ifdef AVOID_UB
return
#endif
set_mario_animation(m, MARIO_ANIM_START_WALLKICK);
//! Missing return statement. The returned value is the result of the call
// to set_mario_animation. In practice, this value is nonzero.
// This results in this action "cancelling" into itself. It is supposed to
// execute on two frames, but instead it executes twice on the same frame.
// This results in firsties only being possible for a single frame, instead
// of two.
}```firsties wall kicks were entirely supposed to be possible for more than 1 frame
you can generally tell reviewing sm64 code that it was Nintendo's first C project or dealing with C as the primary language for the actual game
little furnace
Meanwhile the guy they hired to do the startup screen apparently wrote super clean code that was almost twice as fast, as far as I know.
white turret
Mario head is actually pretty interesting, its a system called dynlist where it generates the displaylist commands on the fly, it wasnt only used for Mario 64
Its first appearence was actually the swordfighting demo for zelda seen at Shoshinkai 1995
Giles Goddard actually programmed that demo
cinder karma
Happy
Always choose to be happy
Iro, I found out skill has promises and they're jank!
Do u enjoy callbacks
Good morning!
Quick poll: what knives do u own
safe dragon
knife
cinder karma
I have a chef knife (Chinese style) and two paring knives
dusty pollen
Iro, I found out skill has promises and they're jank!
skill?
I like callbacks within reason
cinder karma
dusty pollen
I think it's too easy to rely on awaits when you're working asynchronously but if you can utilise promises well you can get a lot more out of it
cinder karma
It is as annoying as you think it is
dusty pollen
idk what cadence is
cinder karma
One of two semiconductor design software suites
dusty pollen
ah
rain apex
Atra trigger word
dusty pollen
okay looks like python async awaits are basically exactly the same as js
cinder karma
Yeah
dusty pollen
discord.py seems to still live in a world where prefix commands are the main way to use discord bots. concerning
devout vault
Quick poll: what knives do u own
long verge
Microslop 🔥
devout vault
Are we sure the slop is still micro at this point
cyan shadow
Quick poll: what knives do u own
two paring knives, a bread knife, 4 butter knives, and two sharp kitchen knives. The paring knives and kitchen knives came with the house.
fallen field
Microslop 🔥
I miss the days when that just referred to Microsoft
steel kraken
Devils advocate, plot usage traffic and commit/push frequency against it.
That and apparently they left it mostly alone to live in its own Virginia data centre which has capacity/scaling issues
little furnace
Microsoft Authentication hates me everyday, especially now that they started closing down on custom ROMs.
I managed to export the key to Bitwarden though.
Can recommend. You need a rooted device though.
cinder karma
This is for work. Not personal
sand frost
microsoft and i feud every day
little furnace
Do you have a work device? Because mine was for university, and they didn't give me a phone (how mean), so I had to make it work with my personal rooted device.
safe dragon
I commited the sin of having my 2fa tokens in my password manager so it's no longer really two factor, you just need to have 1 thing
it's been way nicer tho
and it's keepass so I don't need to worry about some data leak
cinder karma
Ugh I'm pretty annoyed at the whole deal ngl
We now have to 2fa to log into the server
Which seems unreasonable when I have to be on the local network
weak obsidian
We now have to 2fa to log into the server
Next is facial scan
cinder karma
To log into the server
little furnace
I commited the sin of having my 2fa tokens in my password manager so it's no lon...
1FA is still good if it uses security keys instead.
safe dragon
password is 123456
weak obsidian
password is 123456
Yikes, that's outdated.
We use 0123 for our password
index starts at 0, not 1
safe dragon
sorry I'm a lua programmer
dusty pollen
ew, lua. I'm a matlab programmer. gotta love the proprietary language 😌
weak obsidian
you're all still on languages?
i've been writing binary the entire time
i should update to assembly
heard its the "new thing" for the kids
fortran is too high level for me
cyan shadow
Y'all be proud of me
I've had ideas of experimenting with Godot knocking about in my skull alongside my solitary braincell, and today I downloaded Godot and a program that has exercises to teach you GDScript (I'm starting scratch here so I appreciate that it's going over the basics)
devout vault
Y'all be proud of me
I've had ideas of experimenting with Godot knocking about i...
(someone else here also has been tinkering with godot lately)
cyan shadow
(someone else here also has been tinkering with godot lately)
I'm just a baby programmer, mind you
devout vault
And you're not doing super code-intensive complex things like them I assume, so that's fine
If I remember right, all of undertale's dialogue is in one ginormous switch block.
cyan shadow
Jesus
cyan shadow
And you're not doing super code-intensive complex things like them I assume, so ...
Yeah right now I'm doing this app-based tutorial thing to learn the basics of GDScript, it's really just teaching you stuff like "what is a function" and suchlike
https://school.gdquest.com/courses/learn_2d_gamedev_godot_4/learn_gdscript/learn_gdscript_app#lets-get-started
It's been a really long time since I did some basic Java classes in high school, and I have no other experience, so baby mode it is
I have an idea for a game, which shouldn't be too complex, I hope
devout vault
Yeah right now I'm doing this app-based tutorial thing to learn the basics of GD...
I wondered if you were talking about GDquest when you said that! They're great from what I hear
cyan shadow
I wondered if you were talking about GDquest when you said that! They're great f...
Yesss, so far it's pretty good!
Godot's documentation recommended it
uncut seal
anyone going to godotcon?
hushed raven
Y'all be proud of me
I've had ideas of experimenting with Godot knocking about i...
This is yet another sign I should probably mess about with godot, why have so many people I know, jumped at Godot again at the same time XD
cinder karma
They were done with waiting
cinder karma
Ichor the jokes are too easy
Anyways what video game are you making
Actually
No.
"Describe the video game you're making badly."
hushed raven
Describing things badly is so fun
devout vault
But what if I’m not working on one at the moment…
(There are ones I want to work on, but other things to work on too + lack of energy lately)
cinder karma
Quill come back here and talk about your game idea plz
little furnace
"Describe the video game you're making badly."
I'm making what everyone hates in RPGs as a puzzle game with an editor so you can annoy your friends.
cinder karma
Does it have histogram
little furnace
Might be hard because there's only one axis (number if steps) and a perfect solution that is (at least I think so) often the first working one.
I'd say that without back and forth it's the only solution pretty often.
cinder karma
Atlas what game are you making
cyan shadow
anyone going to godotcon?
I would've, but the tickets were out of budget and I'm not actually a gamedev so I wasn't sure it made sense
cyan shadow
This is yet another sign I should probably mess about with godot, why have so ma...
Dew it dew it
cyan shadow
Quill come back here and talk about your game idea plz
Monster bartender, basically
You run a pub
For monsters
(Also sorry I'm late, I was in Dutch class!)
hushed raven
Atlas what game are you making
I have zero idea so far, but ill try to fit histograms and gif/avif export if it fits XD
cyan shadow
"You're an owl who is also air traffic controller"
"Delta 5060 turn right on Bravo-
HOO TOLD YOU YOU COULD GO DOWN ALPHA, SIR"
devout vault
That games sounds like a hoot
cinder karma
If it takes off I claim royalties *
(*) paid in the occasional pet picture DM'ed to me
I'm pretty sure we can fit histograms and gif generator into this
[Minimum distance between planes]?
Number of takeoff and landing?
hushed raven
minimum distance between planes: 0 metres
Tower, this is Hotel 007, we appear to have collided with Oscar Whiskey 1, please advise
red crest
it could be fine if the maximum distance is like 2 miles though
Not in this server, please.
little furnace
That's how I woke up today:
fleet wren
debating publishing my fork of this openttd mod when it's clear the maintainer has been afk for 9 months
I'm most likely not doing it though because there's at least 3 other people with the same thoughts and they're also much more active
hushed raven
if a hike takes 9 months, thats more akin to being lost than being on a hike
safe dragon
afk for an entire pregnancy
cinder karma
Popular in Europe
sand frost
the hiking or the pregnancy?
little furnace
Going to bed because I have the dreaded early lecture in six hours and less than 20 minutes.
Wish I had a cat with me though.
weak obsidian
Wish I had a cat with me though.
meow
hey, dont be bummed out that you cant get a cat
at least you got an orange
prisma flume
python has async await?
i hate python async await and it sucks and i hate it
heavy daggerBOT
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prisma flume
i won't elaborate you can just look at the jukebox code and work it out
dusty pollen
no I don't want to cry thank you. I'm already translating something from nodejs to python I don't need any more pain in my life
cinder karma
Goooood morning
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #7902 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1494143065835831407)
hushed raven
Good very early morning once more
errant comet
It's 5am at my place so good morning
cinder karma
I can almost imagine these irl
sand frost
I do enjoy the big hinge
cinder karma
It's a little extreme on the height but like. It's not that insane, right?
prisma flume
of all the godawful issues with windows
if you search for files and get multiple results from different directories, select them all and rename, it'll successfully rename every instance to have the same name you typed!
unfortunately they are all suffixed with (1)
ivory shadow
The height on that bridge isn't insane. It's just weird that it's based on the middle rather than having one that folds up from each side and that then meet in the middle.
prisma flume
extremely good that the secret file finder in vscode also can't actually find files
EXTREMELY good that the single vscode extension for managing multiple files doesn't let you sort or filter by file type or extension
in absolute awe that the vscode explorer search can only search by file extensions and not by file names. what is even going on
hushed raven
It's scary when a compiler shouts at you, but it's even more scary when you know it should but it infact doesn't
prisma flume
i hate doing anything with explorer. fuming
errant comet
I had some cool idea of something to do yesterday and now I woke up and I forgot the idea
😭
little furnace
That's why you never sleep.
errant comet
I wish
errant comet
Okay I remembered
cinder karma
Sleep is good
cinder karma
The height on that bridge isn't insane. It's just weird that it's based on the m...
Well the big boats are on the outside
devout vault
EXTREMELY good that the single vscode extension for managing multiple files does...
something something powertoys
(at least for renaming)
cinder karma
Gooood morning!
hushed raven
My phone screen just fell off.... How on earth does that just happen???
I'd expect some kind of stickiness behind the screen but there is none at all
rain apex
That's why it fell off 😌
hushed raven
on a side note, my phone screen has a lot of parts on it which means it's going to be a massive pain to replace if it breaks further
cinder karma
Iro, selph. New journal page
dusty pollen
My phone screen just fell off.... How on earth does that just happen???
there's a certain type of problem that only happens to tech nerds. this is one of them
hushed raven
I've had a fair few weird issues with tech, but this is a new one on a whole different level
devout vault
My phone screen just fell off.... How on earth does that just happen???
bro fell off
prisma flume
something something powertoys
i was really hoping i could do what i needed with just explorer, vscode, or bash in that order, but no
devout vault
I’m sure you could with bash
But the problem is you then need to know how to do it in bash
And as nice as PowerRename is, I use the the thing for finding your cursor the most
prisma flume
yeah it was about 4:45 when i started scrawling things in bash and decided it was officially no longer my problem
white turret
Ah yeah I should have told you guys the projects Ive been working on
Yall heard of recomps?
Well I'm the guy that ported Bomberman 64 to the PC via N64 recomp
(and also working on porting Bomberman Hero)
Luckily for us, 98-99% of Nintendo 64 games are written in C, which is pretty cool
Let me tell you of some of the bullshit ive seen working on this game.
Apparently the main gameplay loop function uses no less than 40 goto statements
white turret
Oh yeah, Hero and 64 have the funniest incidents that ive ever encountered
These games used LGPL code in them
worn remnant
Apparently the main gameplay loop function uses no less than 40 goto statements
that does seem high, but i use goto for local flow control sometimes (chiefly when it helps flatten a function) and i think it's Fine
rain apex
Do u tho
dusty pollen
that does seem high, but i use `goto` for local flow control sometimes (chiefly ...
my confession is that I've genuinely never run into a need to use gotos and I think it's just because I've never really seen examples of them in non-decompile code or because I'm too used to other flow control
it's just one of those programming tools I've never seen in practice 
devout vault
I've used one or two in mods
I think partially because C# doesn't have a way to break; from an outer loop
devout vault
`goto cleanup;`
Man I wish C# had destructors in the same way C++ does 😔
red crest
I've also used it in a few mods, including my most recent one
fleet wren
unique_ptr is probably modern c++'s best feature
I say "modern" like it isn't from 11
cinder karma
That's like &mut right
devout vault
You have finalizers i guessssss
I can't just do:
Lock lock(mutex);
// never touch lock again, it'll unlock when it goes out of scope
Yeah, there's using, but I can accidentally not use that. And then, sadness
cinder karma
Is there a Jetbrains annotation for this?
fleet wren
That's like `&mut` right
no it's like Box
cinder karma
Code inspection: Return value of a method annotated with [MustDisposeResource] is never disposed | ReSharper Documentation https://share.google/dYQ8oysW76wd1FbId
devout vault
Code inspection: Return value of a method annotated with [MustDisposeResource] i...
bold of you to think I have warnings visible
devout vault
unique_ptr? It's all compile time
C++ doesn't have much as far as a runtime. 😛
(To some extent kinda, like the vtable and dynamic_cast stuff.)
(But for the most part, everything is compile time)
Unique_ptr basically just deletes it for you when it goes out of scope
cinder karma
I dont know, shared_ptr seems runtime.
devout vault
shared_ptr is entirely different 😛
But also, when you said "the runtime", I thought you mean like the .net one
Not at runtime
I don't know how shared_ptr does its reference counting
Some sort of shared counter, I think? Not sure how it is stored
But I'm pretty sure you could copy+paste it + deps into a "no stdlib" setup and it work
fleet wren
(shared_ptr's counterpart is Rc in crabland)
devout vault
Shared_ptr also has weak_ptr to go with it, which uses the same tracking system (so they work together) but doesn't increase the reference count until you use it
cinder karma
Shared ptr is kinda how python operates too
Except python will pause and do a mark and sweep sometimes
(It didnt use to)
So in the past circular references would actually just leak lol
Which is ~fine in a script
devout vault
also a fun part of shared/weak ptr that I just found out
devout vault
So in the past circular references would actually just leak lol
Yeah that's a problem with C++ shared_ptr
Technically the standard had support for compilers to add garbage collection at some point, but nobody ever did and it ended up getting removed (I think)
fleet wren
I think it's just a shared_ptr wrapped by an atomic/mutex
cinder karma
OK! Am I allowed to write c++ now
safe dragon
I think it's legal
cinder karma
Before u say yes I use eval
safe dragon
eval is one of the most powerful versatile tools it has!
cinder karma
Crumble there are new journal puzzles
devout vault
Before u say yes I use `eval`
C++ has asm blocks
cinder karma
Also you can rotate polymer outputs now
devout vault
I'm sure you could write your own assembly and then jmp to it
fleet wren
Also you can rotate polymer outputs now
WHAT
white turret
Oh yeah, heres that cursed goto function https://github.com/Bomberhackers/bmhero/blob/bad2eb59372a44091ea66cecc2fdbcb63586b63b/src/code/71AA0.c#L959
I should prefice this by saying this game disabled optimizations, so its not like there is a control flow that matches this without gotos
when opts are disabled on this compiler, gotos behave differently than branches
weak obsidian
is it safe to eat assembly language
safe dragon
requires a lot of chewing but sure
cinder karma
str.iskeyword exists in python
white turret
These mov instructions taste like chicken
fleet wren
TIL: named loops will be in the next version of C (not C++ though)
fleet wren
nyope
safe dragon
everything I have ever known turned out to be wrong
pliant snow
There's a reason they have to ship two compilers
safe dragon
C# has goto u don't need named loops
heavy daggerBOT
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fleet wren
i mean c/c++ also has goto
cinder karma
Well fuck you too, crumble 
cinder karma
Crumble have u seen the new journal pages
cinder karma
I feel lied to
I'm like half way through the journal
I'm like one puzzle away from being done with the dlc
I got the Sigmar garden achievements manually
By hand!
And a lot of refreshing boards
safe dragon
I still have never played a game of sigmar's garden
cinder karma
What
safe dragon
idk it had nothing to do with the game I was interested in playing so I just ignored it
I don't feel like figuring out what the strategy for them is
I clicked randomly a few times but I'd eventually get stuck
fleet wren
the strategy is "metal atoms are the work of the devil"
devout vault
TIL: named loops will be in the next version of C (not C++ though)
They’re in Java. I’m not joking (but might be misremembering)
One of the few niceties I remember from my MC modding days 😛
fleet wren
yeah one of java's advantages
pliant snow
C# has goto u don't need named loops
Lua has goto u don't need continue
cinder karma
goto-statement · PyPI https://share.google/9ePqVlFrYLhBmmc4H
I like the implementation
safe dragon
goto-statement · PyPI https://share.google/9ePqVlFrYLhBmmc4H
I'm just facinated by an operation called LOAD_FAST
as opposed to LOAD_SLOWLY
damn apparently there's also a LOAD_FAST_LOAD_FAST
red crest
Replacing every instance of LOAD in my code with LOAD_FAST so I can write "Improved performance by x%" in my changelog
safe dragon
apparently there is no LOAD opcode
red crest
Infinity% increase then
steel kraken
Pff who needs Goto when you have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMEFROM
safe dragon
that's somehow so much more cursed
it's based on line number in BASIC too so if you add a single line of code somewhere in between it now points to the wrong spot
long verge
Pff who needs Goto when you have <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMEFROM>
considered to be more a joke than serious computer science.
Then why implementing it 
safe dragon
for fun
rain apex
The implementation is needed to tell the joke
safe dragon
I'm now reminded of languages that do not support early returns
steel kraken
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day_Request_for_Comments theres a long history of engineers having a sense of humour
safe dragon
impossible
I am a teapot is a serious http status code and not just cause it's funny
steel kraken
as is ip over carrier pigeon
long verge
There’s a couple of funny http requests
safe dragon
had no idea this is where it came from
TEA-capable pots that are not provisioned to brew coffee may return
either a status code of 503, indicating temporary unavailability of
coffee, or a code of 418 as defined in the base HTCPCP specification
to denote a more permanent indication that the pot is a teapot.
wait no
it was defined by https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2324
safe dragon
apparently the actual http rfc explicitly defines that status code 418 cannot be assigned a use because it's been used as a joke too often to be reliable
[RFC2324] was an April 1 RFC that lampooned the various ways HTTP was abused; one such abuse was the definition of an application-specific 418 status code, which has been deployed as a joke often enough for the code to be unusable for any future use.
Therefore, the 418 status code is reserved in the IANA HTTP Status Code Registry. This indicates that the status code cannot be assigned to other applications currently. If future circumstances require its use (e.g., exhaustion of 4NN status codes), it can be re-assigned to another use.
steel kraken
I'm not a coffee person so I'll never need to implement 418 myself
safe dragon
same
thankfully we will never exhaust the 4NN codes cause modern web devs only use 400 and 404
steel kraken
401, 403, 429 are used often
safe dragon
right ok fine there's a few more
steel kraken
I dont trust anyone to actually correctly pick from 401 vs 403
safe dragon
I dont trust anyone to actually correctly pick from 401 vs 403
they're pretty distinct different codes
steel kraken
forbidden vs unauthorized
safe dragon
<https://docs.discord.com/developers/topics/opcodes-and-status-codes#http>
I was hoping for fun ones
white turret
it can be layman-ly understood to be a superset of C but it does not strictly meet that definition if you scrutinize it
for the average programmer joe not reading the standard down to the letter, anyway
its useful to describe it to people that way, even if it doesnt meet the letter of it
devout vault
damn apparently there's also a `LOAD_FAST_LOAD_FAST`
Reminds me of int vs long vs long long
white turret
im used to N64-land where long means 32-bit
The funny thing is that on even older architectures and targets (like if you're programming C for the Sega Genesis) long can be 16-bit
steel kraken
you mean the n64 isnt 64?
white turret
depends how you look at it. It's technically 64-bit, but an ultramajority of games are compiled "as" a 32-bit program
not taking advantage of all the new MIPS instructions
The N64 is a MIPS III machine. But most games are compiled as MIPS I or II
DKR famously used MIPS I, probably losing frames in its FPS count that way
..really? I cant say the full extension of that acronym? I mean I get it but
im not talking about that... 
Im trying to think of any game that used Mips 3 and im struggling
Really only the internal OS used MIPS 3 and even then only some of the OS libraries did
rain apex
im not talking about *that*... <:eyesnarrow:807376653834911784>
If u think automod bonked u for weird reasons you can dm bouncer
safe dragon
my specialty is getting automod bonked for repeating something that was just said by a mod
red crest
If u think automod bonked u for weird reasons you can dm bouncer
(keep in mind though at best you'd just be getting untimed out if you were timed out, the automod aint gonna be changing right then and there)
white turret
It just deleted my message it didnt time me out or anything
not a big deal
i mean false positive but still
safe dragon
it happens
cinder karma
You cant say the president's name, I assume
cinder karma
(Having seen #town-square i fully understand)
red crest
Ideally we also do not have discussions about all the things that are blocked either or what triggers it please 😌
safe dragon
I shall give you the full list all carefully crafted to evade automod
cinder karma
I remember when I used to get timed out for trying to forward things from this channel to this channel :P
That was hilarious
safe dragon
i tried to do the small text thing after seeing a mod do it and I got banished to the shadow realm
rain apex
-# just make a [redacted] and become orang
white turret
DKR as a decomp also is about 95%+ complete IIRC. I believe they have 9 functions left
red crest
Chu are you under the impression that small text is limited to mod authors
safe dragon
i believe I can do it nowadays
cinder karma
Chue i will never become orange
steel kraken
-# cheeto is a way of life anyway
rain apex
Chu are you under the impression that small text is limited to mod authors
Is it not i actually don't know
safe dragon
-# bingus
red crest
It's server level based
cinder karma
Why wohld I be orange when these colors are fabulous
rain apex
Pathos has indirectly put me in jail for masked links like 4 times
red crest
(I also got put in jail for a masked link back in the day)
cinder karma
It's fine
steel kraken
pathos used masked links before they became less restricted
rain apex
I saw 4 goose flying over me
red crest
Only 4?
cinder karma
How are the geese
safe dragon
nothing will ever top being asked by a mod to repeat one of their messages followed by my entire discord account getting locked cause discord thought I got hacked
rain apex
Usually there's more and they do a 🔺
rain apex
How are the geese
Loud
safe dragon
I no longer act as guinea pig for mods it's scary
red crest
Well, you aren't told you're acting as a guinea pig, at least...
safe dragon
I'm kept around for experimentation
wtf I coughed and suddenly heard a robotic voice coming from my phone
that spooked me
red crest
Experiment complete.
safe dragon
I have no idea why a YouTube video started playing again
was some robot boss in Mouse PI For Hire
suddenly hear my phone yell exterminate at me like it got hijacked by a dalek
cinder karma
How far have you gotten in Opus anyways
safe dragon
chapter 6 I think
fleet wren
I LOVE PRODUCTION PUZZLES!
weak obsidian
I LOVE PRODUCTION PUZZLES!
this little game here reminds me a bit on how Factorio works
in terms of optimization
..if thats what your doing here
cinder karma
I opened that one and was like "no. You cant make me."
devout vault
im used to N64-land where long means 32-bit
I mean I think long is 32 bit on gcc nowadays too? Or was for a while. Long long is more explicitly larger via the standard though, and is acfually 64 bit
fleet wren
or we can use int32_t/int64_t like civilized people living in the 21st century
heavy daggerBOT
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prisma flume
my specialty is getting automod bonked for repeating something that was just sai...
do as we say, not as we say
devout vault
~~or we can use int32_t/int64_t like civilized people living in the 21st century...
Or we could use short and long as modifiers for halving and doubling bit size (respectively).
Need a 2 bit variable? short short char
Need a 256 bit variable? long long long int
Need a half precision floating point variable? short float
etc.
fleet wren
jail
devout vault
char == short short
cinder karma
I'm surprised sometimes blueberry hasn't banned me yet
heavy daggerBOT
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devout vault
Need a variable that can be a bitmask for every array index that an unsigned 32 bit value can represent?
long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long int
well, this is great and all, but, we could start allowing mathematical attributes, such as range ~ 2^(32 * 2^27)
prisma flume
hey atra we're running some tests could you copy-paste this message in chat to see how the automod reacts
weak obsidian
weak obsidian
Need a variable that can be a bitmask for every array index that an unsigned 32 ...
Now do it for a 64 bit integer
devout vault
Now do it for a 64 bit integer
That's just long int
Oh
Wrong message
No, that's an exercise left for the reader
weak obsidian
oo
devout vault
While we're at it, let's add non-power-of-2 ones as well.
24 bits? short int short short int
80 bits? long int short int
33 bits? int short short short char
The larger int/char declarations go on the left and get smaller as you go right. Just like roman numerals. Obviously
weak obsidian
While we're at it, let's add non-power-of-2 ones as well.
24 bits? `short int s...
this hurtsm y brain
oranges dont produce enough energy to compute this
..they may actually have enough, but i wont pursue that further
cinder karma
hey atra we're running some tests could you copy-paste this message in chat to s...
Sorry I'm looking away to avoid trauma
devout vault
I was an orange before I was a strawberry
weak obsidian
I was an orange before I was a strawberry
can you tell me what it was like?
devout vault
oranges dont produce enough energy to compute this
This might actually be correct if we're talking about orange cats, however. You know, the single collective brain cell and all
devout vault
can you tell me what it was like?
You're literally an orange right now
Doubly so, even, which is more than the case for me
weak obsidian
You're literally an orange right now
I like to hear other peoples stories, if I ever transition into a stardewberry
strawberry*
what made you become a strawberry?
the texture, the looks
devout vault
are we talking the fruit or still the role color
steel kraken
(being in the game credits)
weak obsidian
~~are we talking the fruit or still the role color~~
fruit
LMAO
cause, im actually an orange
..in stardew
given my name pfp and more
devout vault
(being in the game credits)
(I think it's more about actively being on the team, technically? Like if I left I would no longer be strawberry)
weak obsidian
but out of curisoity
when did you become a dev?
was concernedape maining it until a recent update or similar? sorry, not educated on the lore sadly
weak obsidian
how dare you not have been here since the dawn of time
i was so late, that I played right before the 1.6 update came out on PCs
devout vault
Technically I first did contract work for 1.5 with some stuff for splitscreen, but 1.6 was when I and some other modders started doing stuff more regularly (and when 1.6 came out, the role was made)
white turret
if there's one thing i wish we could do is add a keyword specifying exact # of bits and type
typedef bits:32 signed:false uint32_t;
why do we trust the system with specifying the length of a long?
Just tell the compiler how many bits it is
devout vault
Can't you do that in structs or unions or something
Not quite as nice, but still
Though I think it is sorta kinda compiler defined? I mean, technically an include, but still.
It's meant to be per-compiler
white turret
have you looked at standard C headers
they are an ifdef forest
devout vault
Yes
rain apex
If u r lucky u might have DWARF
devout vault
Unfortunately I have been dragged into template hell at times, yes
rain apex
I assume u r unlucky given the context 
devout vault
(though that's C++ not C, I've been in C ones too)
white turret
just need to abuse the C preprocessor even harder
for example you actually can recursively pre-process (but only I believe up to 10 iterations)
weak obsidian
Technically I first did contract work for 1.5 with some stuff for splitscreen, b...
good to know!
devout vault
for example you actually can recursively pre-process (but only I believe up to 1...
Yeah, so much !! fun !! (in the dwarf fortress sense)
devout vault
Technically I first did contract work for 1.5 with some stuff for splitscreen, b...
(Actually Pathos might've had some stuff for previous update to 1.6 too? I'm not sure though)
weak obsidian
just need to abuse the C preprocessor even harder
Have you heard about Rust?
Rust is amazing, it's the best
We should all transition to Rust.
devout vault
dang it where is my crab repellant
weak obsidian
Rust is the next C, mark my words
white turret
No but the Rust Witnesses have told me over and over about their lord and savior
devout vault
I got complacent since we've been rust free for a while
weak obsidian
(this is a joke)
white turret
seriously, rust evangelicals are so annoying
weak obsidian
seriously, rust evangelicals are so annoying
LOL, this is so true
I have an app (sadly in Python)
i was told to convert it to Rust
And to change UI frameworks
by a rust evangelist
white turret
just another "C killer" that will not actually 'kill' C
it is not the first
it will not be the last
devout vault
We still have COBOL for goodness sake
weak obsidian
just another "C killer" that will not actually 'kill' C
Rust has its amazing advantages, but at the end of the day, both languages are needed.
If Rust were to replace C, then Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman would be yapping about it all day and night. They call it a "welcome change" to make some areas of the kernel safer, but it can never be a full replacement, and it isn't intended to be
devout vault
C definitely isn't going anywhere
white turret
so long as the Linux kernel remains in C, and you will never be able to put enough work into it to port it to another language, as its just too big, C will remain around
little furnace
C definitely isn't going anywhere
It is, that's why it has goto.
weak obsidian
C definitely isn't going anywhere
It's in every driver, every kernel, every application...to a degree
It's practically the cornerstone of coding
devout vault
Going anywhere as in going away
weak obsidian
yeah i know
devout vault
I'm well aware that C is everywhere
weak obsidian
its practically impossible
unless microsoft pulls the plug, but even then, its still in everything
which id doubt theyd do
devout vault
so long as the Linux kernel remains in C, and you will never be able to put enou...
So I need to vibe code a replacement for the entire linux ecosystem, got it. I'm sure that will go swimmingly
rain apex
You can always rewrite in rust and lose 1 gorillion perf but gain 1 nebulous Safety
devout vault
And by swimmingly. I mean as if you dropped me, who can't swim, in the middle of an ocean with anvils for shoes
little furnace
which id doubt theyd do
They will 100% replace it with C(opilot)
weak obsidian
They will 100% replace it with C(opilot)
I installed Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT
I dont need copilot and edge
I cannot become a full linux user, cause I use NVIDIA
and I need microsoft for company reasons
and..for my gpu lol
white turret
wdym? I use Nvidia and Linux
little furnace
I dont need copilot and edge
Don't say it out too loud, they won't like hearing that.
rain apex
I think the drivers are less bad nowadays
weak obsidian
wdym? I use Nvidia and Linux
Lot of frame pacing issues, even with all codexs, and KDE Plasma when you scroll on any page its not smooth, but on GNOME it is good, each one has some things better for NVIDIA and some compistors dont
white turret
I use KDE Plasma and it seems.. fine
rain apex
Like went down to avg level of shenanigans instead of unusable
weak obsidian
Don't say it out too loud, they won't like hearing that.
I don't to my company, they love it sadly
rain apex
Perhaps dependent on ur particular gpu tho
little furnace
Lot of frame pacing issues, even with all codexs, and KDE Plasma when you scroll...
I only used a tiling based Window Manager, but it seemed fine there.
weak obsidian
Lot of frame pacing issues, even with all codexs, and KDE Plasma when you scroll...
How GNOME's compositor differs from KDE's is unique. KDE has better gaming abilities with NVIDIA, but GNOME's has better support for NVIDIA as a whole
weak obsidian
I only used a tiling based Window Manager, but it seemed fine there.
Never used one before
a WM like i3/sway/awesome
little furnace
Sway. SwayFX, to be precise.
weak obsidian
:0
weak obsidian
I use KDE Plasma and it seems.. fine
I use a 4070, before that I had a 1660 super, both had same issues
little furnace
I love how I just need to come home and sit down and my cat will wake up, climb on top of me and start cuddling with me.
weak obsidian
I love how I just need to come home and sit down and my cat will wake up, climb ...
Did the cat ask you to install arch, BTW?
white turret
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Aorus Master here
little furnace
I use a 4070, before that I had a 1660 super, both had same issues
Did you use the official drivers?
weak obsidian
Gigabyte RTX 4090 Aorus Master here
hi are you interested in donations
weak obsidian
Did you use the official drivers?
yeah
errant comet
Mmm orng
little furnace
Did the cat ask you to install arch, BTW?
It had in the past. But then I accidentially wiped root.
I'm still debating what distro to use now.
Maybe Gentoo?
weak obsidian
Did you use the official drivers?
some areas like heavy operations the compositor goes into a panic and starts dropping frames from 240 to 90 then to 60 and back up, but thats very rare, most of the time its just any scrolling menu on the whole DE isnt smooth and sometimes when menus open and close, the animation abrutly cuts off
white turret
i run 3 4K monitors in a triple display setup for workstation reasons. and I got a 4090 to drive them all
The middle 4K panel is a 144hz
weak obsidian
Maybe Gentoo?
Stable, Debian or similar
white turret
the others are 60hz
weak obsidian
i run 3 4K monitors in a triple display setup for workstation reasons. and I got...
what distro
white turret
Fedora 43
little furnace
Stable, Debian or similar
I'd like something without systemd.
weak obsidian
If you game, should use Nobara
weak obsidian
I'd like something without systemd.
are you one of those who fought in the systemd v.s init v.s openrc wars
white turret
I do game, but kinda rarely and not every day. Only when im in the mood
I just want the screen space
white turret
It can game but I kinda dont trust Fedora with the big 3D games
weak obsidian
Question for everyone here, would you be in the mood to look and rate my website I made? It's for an app I've spent 8 months to a year developing across every distribution and windows version I could possible do
It would be quick, but curious
little furnace
are you one of those who fought in the systemd v.s init v.s openrc wars
Not really. systemd is useful, but I hate that an increasing software requires it. So I want to push against it becoming the one and only.
weak obsidian
Not really. systemd is useful, but I hate that an increasing software requires i...
Oh yeah I fully agree
little furnace
Question for everyone here, would you be in the mood to look and rate my website...
Sure.
white turret
Its also kinda nice, cause the 4090 and 128GB of RAM I have (long story, yeah, I do have 128GB of RAM)
weak obsidian
Sure.
It's an application that can be installed or not installed. No downloads are available, and the website is in an alpha state
steel kraken
I've had 128gb of ram for years
weak obsidian
I've had 128gb of ram for years
rich
white turret
I can actually run those enterprise AI models locally (by offloading to RAM)
so no paying subscriptions to companies for me 😎
But again, I didnt GET this hardware for that obviously. im not stupid
I mainly got it for O0 decomposition for reverse engineering
That needs at least 96GB of RAM
weak obsidian
I can actually *run* those enterprise AI models locally (by offloading to RAM)
...
wow.
thats impressive
little furnace
https://atlas-4ys.pages.dev/
It's an application that can be installed or not i...
I have astigmatism and have a hard time reading light text on dark background. I even have Discord and terminals in light mode. My recommendation would be to have multiple themes and respect the system theme by default.
weak obsidian
I have astigmatism and have a hard time reading light text on dark background. I...
good to know! ty
white turret
Also kinda helps having a TRX40 motherboard running a Threadripper 3970X
yeah I.. may have spent over $7000 on this machine...
weak obsidian
Also kinda helps having a TRX40 motherboard running a Threadripper 3970X
threaripper..my beloved
little furnace
good to know! ty
Other than that, I think the sticky header bar is a bit too small actually.
white turret
Once again I didnt just get that for bling. As a programmer I like extremely fast compile times
Before the 3970X my compile times were minutes
after the 3970X: seconds
weak obsidian
Other than that, I think the sticky header bar is a bit too small actually.
Yeah I can see that! very good to note
white turret
and I love being able to test new builds in seconds
steel kraken
I did accidently buy a kit of 128gb ecc ddr5 ram, but modern threadripper boards and cpu's are a bit too much of a meme to justify for me
I prefer the mixed use of my 9950x3d
weak obsidian
I did accidently buy a kit of 128gb ecc ddr5 ram, but modern threadripper boards...
ecc, what do you think i am, made out of money?
my uncle has 128gb ddr5 ecc ram
for his work
NO
DDR4
idk why i said ddr5
white turret
I could have gotten a 3990X for double the cores/threads, but I did my research and found out it would have only saved me about a half a second more compile time
steel kraken
my apartment has 128gb of ddr4, ddr5 and ecc ddr5
white turret
The 3970X was the sweet spot, I couldnt justify the additional $2k for it
weak obsidian
my apartment has 128gb of ddr4, ddr5 and ecc ddr5
why does an apartmenr need that
most ive seen run barely on 32gb for their whole thing
steel kraken
old rig, new rig, and accident
dusty pollen
I have a total like, 24gigs of ddr... 3? maybe? and 16 are SODIMM
I probably have some sodimm ddr2 in some of the various old laptops I have laying around actually
white turret
(old pic, i have cleaned the glass since then, and fixed the GPU sag, dont ask)
dusty pollen
oooo that's nice
rain apex
do u have one of those sticc they give u
dusty pollen
that's that ram from that ram company whose name I can't remember that just stopped doing consumer ram, isn't it?
rain apex
to hold the gpu
dusty pollen
oh was it corsair? I thought it was a different company starting with c lmao
accidentally correct
weak obsidian
oh was it corsair? I thought it was a different company starting with c lmao
it was Micron
cinder karma
white turret
Having an 8TB SSD is also really nice
dusty pollen
Having an 8TB SSD is also really nice
surely you could give me ONE of those terabytes /lh
steel kraken
I think this is my only photo currently of the current rig
white turret
I want a 5090 but with those prices and it being such a fire hazard I cannot justify upgrading again
Im waiting till the 6xxx series
dusty pollen
here, if we're all boasting, a neofetch screenshot 😌
steel kraken
I had a 4090 but had problems and stopped booting with it plugged in, and went and bought the emergency 5090
white turret
The GPU sag I got was just one of those round twist things also
No need to spend much
prisma flume
not to brag but i have a conmputer and i didnt pay for it
dusty pollen
I have two of those! twinsies
safe dragon
sounds about right AI topic thing
prisma flume
oh wow ok powertoys powerrename is exactly precisely specifically perfectly what i needed
truly excellent application/programme
dusty pollen
I've been downvoting every single ai video summary for having the most insufferable tone ever
devout vault
oh wow ok powertoys powerrename is exactly precisely specifically perfectly what...
you're welcome
Do I use the find cursor thing more often? Yes, because I'm blind or something.
The rename has probably saved more time overall, though
Regex support, including backreferences 😌
...not backreferences
uhhh
weak obsidian
here, if we're all boasting, a neofetch screenshot 😌
Bloated. Use uwufetch
devout vault
Oh wait no they are backreferences
maybe
i dunno
you get what i mean
hopefully
prisma flume
here, if we're all boasting, a neofetch screenshot 😌
according to this your linux install is running low on black ink
devout vault
here, if we're all boasting, a neofetch screenshot 😌
-# where's your btw
dusty pollen
-# where's your btw
I use neofetch btw
fleet wren
I use vim btw
devout vault
Or 1 month of templeOS
rain apex
oh wow ok powertoys powerrename is exactly precisely specifically perfectly what...
what does it do
white turret
running games at 4K 144hz is nice though when I do decide to run big 3d games
weak obsidian
I use vim btw
I do too, BTW. At least when im not lazy I will
white turret
Mostly gotta play the proton lottery as to whether it'll play nice on fedora
weak obsidian
Mostly gotta play the proton lottery as to whether it'll play nice on fedora
Speaking of lottery, I overclockrd my 60hz laptop to 80hz with no ghosting and no artifacts
On cachy os btw
prisma flume
what does it do
everything you could possibly want a bulk rename tool to do
red crest
whats wrong with Bulk Rename Utility
prisma flume
and you can install via winget. how nice
devout vault
what does it do
glorious, glorious renaming possibilities
rain apex
but this is what find does
red crest
mimicking a fraction of our power...
devout vault
huh, never knew what these options did. neat
prisma flume
well yes but this has a gui and you don't get hate mail in bash that says command mv not found command rename not found
devout vault
Yeah I mentioned find earlier
devout vault
But the problem is you then need to know *how* to do it in bash
(okay technically I said you could do it in bash, but I was talking about find)
red crest
powerrename looks too modern to me
devout vault
mimicking a fraction of our power...
What here isn't possible with powerrename, except with a more insane interface in what you posted
red crest
how can i trust it to be so powerful if it looks so clean
red crest
how would i know, ive never used powerrename
devout vault
If you know regex, I'm guessing powerrename covers most/all of what that does
red crest
can powerrename remove only accents
prisma flume
surprisingly unlike most things in win11 it's simple and functional
red crest
Bulk Rename Utility can automatically number things in Base 17 for me
devout vault
surprisingly unlike most things in win11 it's simple *and* functional
Well it's not part of windows by default, so that probably helps
prisma flume
open-source or not, it is still a microsoft product 🙂↕️
shockingly it even uses the correct win11 app theming
devout vault
open-source or not, it is still a microsoft product 🙂↕️
you said "in win11" not "by ms"
you should've been more specific
prisma flume
fine, in win11 OOBE
red crest
out of bounds experience...
devout vault
out of bounds exception
red crest
out of bemory
heavy daggerBOT
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prisma flume
eee
devout vault
The now-defunct big gaming event, but with extra steps for the name
red crest
if E3 was so good, how come they never made an E32
devout vault
If MC 1.21 was so good, how come they never made MC 1.22
I can make this joke now that it's officially never happening
(They totally should've called the april fools update 1.22...)
red crest
its theoretically possible that at some point in the future we reset our calendars to year 1
prisma flume
they do that once in a while in japan dont they. i suppose its like doing a clean windows install when it starts getting all thick and chunky
red crest
i dont know what they do in japan or the frequency in which they do it
prisma flume
apparently they're in year 8 atm
worn remnant
i dont know what they do in japan or the frequency in which they do it
if memory serves, it's based on who the reigning emperor is. new emperor, new year 1
red crest
ill be honest i had no idea they did that at all
cinder karma
So fucking tired
red crest
i knew they had eras, didnt know it changed the calendar
devout vault
What's MC
is this a "what is a video game" thing or are you actually asking
(minecraft)
worn remnant
in most regular situations they use western years. but on (some?) official documents and stuff they use the japan year, which is a name (i forget how they pick this) and a number
little furnace
So fucking tired
Did you also have a lecture at 8 in the morning?
If anyone is interested, the lecture I had to get up for at 7 today was basically the professor telling us what he expects us to do until the end of the year, giving us time to get together as groups and find ideas, giving feedback and leaving after 45 minutes at 9. But he expects us to attend that lecture every week now so that we can talk with the other groups about our issues and help each other. Which is nice, but... 8 in the morning...
cinder karma
is this a "what is a video game" thing or are you actually asking
I have two brain cells and they both just left work
I dont know what i was thinking at all
Probably wasn't
cinder karma
I LOVE PRODUCTION PUZZLES!
What's your least favorite glyph
red crest
𓆣 this is mine
prisma flume
greek question mark
worn remnant
greek question mark
thanks i hate it
weak obsidian
if memory serves, it's based on who the reigning emperor is. new emperor, new ye...
Went from Rust evangelist to history
fleet wren
What's your least favorite glyph
I like to say the chonky metal copying glyph in the DLC? but I don't really have a fav since they're all puzzle pieces instead of something we get to choose
dusty pollen
I like to say the chonky metal copying glyph in the DLC? but I don't really have...
I hate that one too, it feels like it was made that chunky for no reason other than to be an inconvenience
prisma flume
installing PowerTools to use PowerRename from PowerShell. modern windows is like watching he-man
fleet wren
surprised they aren't all renamed CopilotTools, CopilotRename and CopilotShell
prisma flume
they should embrace the theme and ditch all the junk like clipchamp and roll with PowerVideo
prisma flume
it's definitely up there with microsoft songsmith(tm)
moviemaker. clipchamp. songsmith. has microsoft always done this absurd application alliteration
cinder karma
Copilot plz rename my files
(All files .png)
Movie maker is a great name
Morning atlas!
I'm adding seven hours to my timezone and asking questions
hushed raven
alliteration is great, helps be memorable and just fun to say, not a fan of no spaces in the names though XD
Morning atra!
I have woken up like an hour ago to let me neighbour back in to theirs, I was nice and comfy asleep XD
prisma flume
i really wonder where in the chain between video blob and windows drivers the issue of 'youtube video stops when adding or removing an audio device' sits
speaking of copilot it's a real 🥙 that this laptop replaces rctrl and rctx with copilot and biometric keys
muscle memory for one-hand ctrl+home and ctrl+bcksp wasted
what do you even mean
steel kraken
Alliterations are great
hushed raven
it's a real stuffed flatbread?
prisma flume
stunned anyone even understands that
prisma flume
oh did you grow one lately
devout vault
wow
cinder karma
No, I stole one from a different oragnd cat
cinder karma
Adorable
prisma flume
I have two brain cells and they both just left work
this was NOT an insult it is FACT ⤴️
devout vault
this was NOT an insult it is FACT ⤴️
i got the reference but couldn't come up with something clever to say about it so i ignored it
devout vault
(no pictures, forgot to get one)
Have a momo instead
prisma flume
now where in the world do i get replacement headphone cushions that don't dissolve into faux leather debris after a year
wait why can i use that emoji
cinder karma
Happy birthday, momo
devout vault
Birthday?
sand frost
Is momo Mozart or is this another cat?
cinder karma
It looks like the gift bag is for mozaet
devout vault
Is momo Mozart or is this another cat?
yes
Momo = Mozart
cinder karma
Hence, happy birthday
sand frost
I thought it was but he’s very…cat colored
devout vault
It looks like the gift bag is for mozaet
No that's been sitting there since christmas
Hence the snowflakes
sand frost
Many cats are that color
heavy daggerBOT
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cinder karma
Merry Christmas, Mozart!
prisma flume
you have a cat named after someone named wolfgang. curious
devout vault
I thought it was but he’s very…cat colored
Standard issue cat, I see
steel kraken
Have a fresh Abby photo
sand frost
She’s also very cat colored
devout vault
you have a cat named after someone named wolfgang. curious
My dad is a big music person
sand frost
But a different kind of cat
hushed raven
every day I wish I had a cat 
sand frost
Orrrr Mozart is a gang of wolves in very clever disguise?
That’s decided life is good as a cat
steel kraken
every day I wish I had a cat <:SMCSobs:1226647564401512458>
One way to fix that
devout vault
every day I wish I had a cat <:SMCSobs:1226647564401512458>
Meanwhile, heard today about how a friend (owner of the orange cat) once got chosen by the CDS. In quadruplicate
prisma flume
i suppose you also have a dog named beethoven 
devout vault
(It was a mom cat, and she brought her kittens)
(From the sounds of it, their family has some sort of genetics where the CDS can tell they are easy marks)
hushed raven
One way to fix that
there is no way to fix the allergy though, might do some CRISPR modification to remove the allergy, that's the only acceptable solution of course
devout vault
i suppose you also have a dog named beethoven <:SDVdemetriums:702504896234258442...
No the dog's name is Freeze
sand frost
Some cats are less allergy
It depends also on which part of the cat is allergy
The skin or the spit
sand frost
Poor freeze
prisma flume
expensive taste in animals
sand frost
I hope he gets to hide in the freezer sometimes
devout vault
(he's fine and happy, just stays indoors more in summer)
(I mean, mostly indoors in general. But in winter he'll just bask outside and refuse to come in a lot)
hushed raven
Some cats are less allergy
a lot of the hypoallergenic cats any where close to me cost a fortune, and I would much rather adopt (or rescue) a tiny creature then buy a new one, not really a fan of buying pets
sand frost
Understandable
devout vault
expensive taste in animals
Yeah, it's not new
sand frost
I’ve had better and worse luck with all kinds of cats
devout vault
Growing up we had four cats (three persians! one of which was Kirby), and four pomeranians. One of the pomeranians was a rare color or something
sand frost
None of them particularly advertised as hypoallergenic
But it’s hard to know before you sniff them for a while
Which is rough for committing to a cat
The main factor I’ve seen is hardwood floors that get swept regularly
I think carpets absorb more hair
prisma flume
oh for some nice hardwood floors
hushed raven
hardwood floors would be delightful
devout vault
But it’s hard to know before you sniff them for a while
(random image from google) me each day getting my vitamin M
prisma flume
cheap carpet dominates here. the dust is unbearable
sand frost
The grey vinyl specifically
hushed raven
vinyl is what out kitchen and bathrooms use, it's so ugly!
sand frost
All plasticky
devout vault
I should sleep
sand frost
And some places love to advertise hardwood when it’s actually fake hardwood
Which also feels plasticky
hushed raven
my dream house would be hardwood and tiles everywhere with enough rugs to outsell Egypt
prisma flume
why on earth is PowerToys not named PowerTools
sand frost
I love ornate bathroom tiles but I think if I want them I have to get good at laying tiles
dusty pollen
why on earth is PowerToys not named PowerTools
because when I say I want to use powertools on my computer I want people to know I mean taking a chainsaw to it
prisma flume
it definitely sounds much more functional and everyday than PowerToys which i dont even know what that's supposed to convey
dusty pollen
powertoys conveys that I have no idea what's going on and am just pressing shiny buttons for fun, which is accurate to my use of powertoys
prisma flume
also if these are for superusers shouldnt it be like supershell
or is the windows word power users. i dont even remember
anyway what matters is now everyone at the office is installing powertoys
devout vault
Is it part of the shell?
prisma flume
well presumably it's following the branding of like powershell
devout vault
I mean, it's power shell
The power is to the shell
The shell isn't describing the power
prisma flume
i feel that works just as well for 'super'
devout vault
That'd be if you had something crazy, like turtles that became ninjas, or something silly like that
Look I'm tired and lacking in reading comprehension
steel kraken
Power toys has its name because it was originally for win95 and xp and was resurrected in 2019 for win10/11
dusty pollen
I am unclear on how that relates to the name
steel kraken
everything had funky names in the 90's
prisma flume
i'm sure they could've modernised
devout vault
There are funky names in the 2020s too. It’s quite a tragedeigh, really
steel kraken
I'm fairly sure part of the decision to revive power toys was specifically to get that nostalgia of microsoft caring about power users
prisma flume
was there some kind of discord promo or am i just progressively getting more permissions
i usually just dismiss and reject whatever popups discord makes yet here we are 
windows is always so confused. my .npmrc uses editor=C:\Windows\notepad.exe, i can use notepad .npmrc to open it, but if i doubleclick and 'open with' notepad it says notepad specifically cannot be associated with that file
not sure why i can't open git bash as a tab in the shared windows terminal instance either
steel kraken
Odd, works for me™ (the .npmrc associated with notepad)
I refuse to entertain the idea of git bash and mingw as a concept, so can't/won't test it
prisma flume
i still use bash since it's apparently simpler to use envars in the .bashrc than getting powershell to use them
steel kraken
I just edit the environment variables directly, as particularly on windows I have no interest in only the shell having them
hushed raven
time is going so slowly today, how is it only 1pm
cinder karma
Good morning!
hushed raven
Good afternoon
cinder karma
dusty pollen
we kinda forgot to swap out the old magic before the people who knew it got too old and now we’re struggling to even find enough wizards to maintain the runes
devout vault
That's okay, we can just use some of the even newer magic to update the old magic for us, despite how much it likes to make up about magic in general
safe dragon
we kinda forgot to swap out the old magic before the people who knew it got too ...
that's the ancient magic it's different
since the ancient magics things have become a lot more standardized with many using mostly the same runes and techniques
cinder karma
Gooood morning
It's Friday
What good book have you read lately
I finally got Three Body Problem
safe dragon
I was gonna lend the Thursday Murder Club from the library but apparently the book wasn't actually registered to be in the library at all so they couldn't lend it out before getting that sorted
safe dragon
I finally got Three Body Problem
I assumed this was some nonfiction academic work but turns out it's a science fiction novel
dusty pollen
it has a show now too
atra, a show is something you can watch on this thing called a screen, which
cinder karma
Are you looking forward to Artemis iii?
hushed raven
I am very much looking forward to Artemis III, space flight is so so cool, especially that far away from the earth
devout vault
I just got jumpscared by the fact that rust apparently existed in 2014
Was looking up when Ludum Dare 29 was, and came across this
https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/247744/repercussion_ludum_dare_29/
Reddit
fleet wren
the olden days, back when rust used to have an optional GC in the standard library
devout vault
...why would rust need a GC
fleet wren
someone asked the same question in 2014 and then it was gone
early rust was very experimental and tried out a lot of stuff
rust also used to have a runtime for green threads; it was removed ahead of 1.0
https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/256 the change that yeeted GC for history enjoyers
little furnace
What good book have you read lately
The Little Prince. I can wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone.
cinder karma
Thank you!!!!
I'll generally look at a book suggestion
After all I do know what a book is
little furnace
It's a pretty quick read, but I felt changed afterwards.
sand frost
I recently reread “Komarr” and “A Civil Campaign” (they’re part of a bigger series but are directly sequential and fine to read standalone)
cinder karma
Science nonfiction tbh
cinder karma
It's quiet tonight
pliant snow
my NAS hard drives have given me some file errors for the first time
I dont think this bodes well
cinder karma
I was hoping for a 1/6th p solve but no go but it is so much faster.
bridge of the day is silly though
dusty pollen
three letters
do they mean nor?
not sure I'd say it "works similarly to and" but tbh idk what that means re: two non equivalent logic gates
frosty echo
That's not three letters
frosty echo
NOR seems likely. Neither, which is kind of the opposite of both
dusty pollen
it was indeed nor
I guess it's similar because the logic table is AND flipped?
AND NOR
1 0
0 0
0 0
0 1
btw, easy way to remember is that there's AND, OR, NOT, then there's the combinations Not AND = NAND, Not OR = NOR
(and there's also XOR)
dusty pollen
others?
I guess technically there could be a name for every possible logic table, so 2^4=16 names
not including NOT
though if you want them to be unordered there would only be 8
which means we're missing just two 
oh right, two-input TRUE and FALSE lmao
thin estuary
Ah yes, /dev/null
dusty pollen
FALSE | 0 0 0 0
NOR | 1 0 0 0
NAND | 1 1 1 0
XNOR | 1 0 0 1
XOR | 0 1 1 0
AND | 0 0 0 1
OR | 0 1 1 1
TRUE | 1 1 1 1
should be all of them
thin estuary
I actually used the null register in Shenzhen I/O quite a bit
dusty pollen
I can’t remember how much I used the shenzhen one
I used it a lot in tis100 and exapunks though
thin estuary
mov x0 null my beloved
dusty pollen
I remember not knowing how to throw away xpin values and just writing them to a disconnected simple pin
thin estuary
…that works?
dusty pollen
you have to connect a wire to the pin itself
thin estuary
I mean, I guess, why wouldn’t it
dusty pollen
but you don’t have to connect it to anything else for simple pins
I remember genuinely being annoyed it didn’t have a null register wtf 
thin estuary
This assumes you have an unused simple pin
thin estuary
Honestly I’m not sure the game ever tells you about it
dusty pollen
irritating
thin estuary
I found out about it online
dusty pollen
tis annoyed me in a fun way but I could definitely see it being annoying in a non fun way lmao
iirc shenzhen is the only one where I haven’t finished every level of the second part
thin estuary
I have yet to do the first extra level…
I had multiple attempts at it, and I was always missing a single line to fit some code, or missing literal physical space to fit stuff
And I haven’t played since
That was back when I added you on Steam lol
little furnace
TIS is fun for me, but I wish I could set it to light mode.
dusty pollen
I did the first few extra levels of shenzhen io and then got badly stuck
safe dragon
not including NOT
the all important OT gate
it takes a signal and just passes it through
dusty pollen
x -> x OR 0
I guess all symmetric gates except XNOR can be generalised to a single (but parameterised) N-input gate RANGE_N(a,b), 0<=a<=b<=N that outputs 1 iff the number of 1 inputs is in [a,b]
so OR = RANGE_2(1,2), AND = RANGE_2(2,2), XOR = RANGE_2(1,1)
devout vault
Y'all don't know your logic gates?
Somebody never got really into MC redstone in the early days when there wasn't much you could do with it
steel kraken
I still find it funny that MC redstone called it RS-NOR latches when the standard term is SR-NOR.
Doesn't change the meaning at all, but learning it from MC first was a fun surprise when I hit the real thing
dusty pollen
that’s the fantasy part
devout vault
Huh. I thought the fantasy part was the monsters and the orbs of teleportion and the flight-via-fireworks and the potion brewing and the...
gets defenestrated
steel kraken
to be fair, most of my redstone career predated a good amount of that
most of my redstone was in alpha and beta
devout vault
same
steel kraken
the comparator is still new in my mental view of redstone
safe dragon
just released last week I'm sure
steel kraken
was added in 1.5 so feels like last week
devout vault
The last redstone I remember doing was a toggle-able clock for early Tinker's Construct smeltery
Before I started using modpacks, which meant I had stuff like the openblocks(?) clock block
steel kraken
I think the last real project I remember that involved anything interesting was doing a villager ironfarm back when they had to be in the spawn chunk and doing village stacking schenanigans.
Despite the fact it was on a heavily modded server, I did the iron farm entirely vanilla and only used mods to measure the storage and graph it over time in a mysql database
actually no, it technically didn't use redstone. Not sure what my last real redstone project was, outside of messing with 8 segment displays for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STs4wDJewNw gotta love iron farms from that era when you needed like a thousand doors
I think I also did a vanilla blaze farm on that server, but used openblocks fans to simplify the funnel
devout vault
Today's dose of psychic damage. If I understand the definition right:
- The GameCube isn't retro. It's vintage.
- Same for the Xbox 360 and PS2
- The Wii will become vintage this november.
- Same for the PS3.
steel kraken
I remember a few years ago when I saw the xbox 360 in the pax retro gaming area, it hurt
long verge
Today's dose of psychic damage. If I understand the definition right:
* The Game...
What’s the difference between retro and vintage ?
devout vault
Being 20+ years old, apparently
long verge
Still a proud PS3 owner btw
devout vault
Antique isn't until 100, though
cinder karma
the all important OT gate
It's called BUF
steel kraken
I still have my xbox 360 cabled into my TV, as I never progressed to the xbone+
though I also have the wiiu cabled up as well
little furnace
To me for consoles 50+ is vintage and 25+ retro.
cinder karma
There are 50 year old consoles?
Look it's retro if I remember it and vintage if it was made before I was born
little furnace
To me for consoles 50+ is vintage and 25+ retro.
5+ is new-is, everything newer is new.
little furnace
There are 50 year old consoles?
Some old Atari consoles?