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I see lua in a lot of random games but I've yet to try writing any 
I used to be python pilled in notepad++ and then I tried Typescript in 2017 and then I had to go back to python for a quick server script and found the experience miserable
the experience is miserable 🤝
Bluebs, python has dictionaries and lists
As separate date types
Floats and ints are also separated
I even tried the early iterations of pythons typed stuff and it just fell apart instantly
Mozart is such a menace
A cute menace
typescript does at least have "elegant" simplicity with async/await. just thinking about dealing with asyncio for the mini-jukebox causes me pain
javascript called, it says python’s a chump
He just jumped onto my desk (in the process knocking over 2-3 things and opening firefox's task manager), stayed for like 5 seconds, and then ran off
(hence why I have no picture for you)
Lua's superpower is that its trivial to embed into C++ games because the stock Lua runtime is practically a single C file with no dependencies
maybe it's time for jukebox-ts 🙂↕️
python packages also add days to my age in mere minutes
U dont use uv
CoffeeScript Jukebot?
i use sunscreen if thats what u mean
Thank u
anyways behold
farming simulator. stardew valley confirmed???
Farming Simulator huh
quote stardew valley developer "yeah it [...] garbage"
article dated 2026/02/09
oh, I still recognize those thumbnails from your homepage
it's been a while
I just want an int
The ability to redefine the constant 5 is also fun
I legitimately love @lru_cache
I've done a farming game even earlier than that one (2012), by the way
And I legit used it to fix my runtime a few weeks back because I ended up using ast again
First commit of this repo was in 2011
https://github.com/spacechase0/Farming-Game
Worked on with a friend at the time
(one of the few people from back then I'm still in contact with, though we don't chat very often)
did Stardew Valley rip off Farming Game by stardew developer???
article dated 2026/02/09
you're welcome to use floor anytime you like 🙂↕️
My preferred way is to do the cursed methods of using any bitwise operation
Thanks I hate it
(I knew aboit that....it was in the wasm precursor)
I mean the oldest SDV video on CA's channel is 2012, and it's not like he would've been made it overnight, so if anything we might've started at a similar time 😛
But still. Thanks, I hate Javascript
why is this a feature
you can't do bitwise operations on an IEEE floating point number
so it has to become internally an actual integer again
You sure can if you're brave
smh, you just aren't code criming enough
Taking notes on this
lang of the free. home of the brave
points. See, bits!
Isnt the quake fast inverse square root reinterpreting floats as ints
I actually learnt this pattern as an aside from an engineer that was working on one of the major JS engines at the time and since then its been my goto way of flooring unless I need readability
also looks to be slightly faster than floor as well, somehow.
(the array and other stuff is just to ensure the JIT doesn't try to be clever and optimize it out)
Makes sense lol
Have u heard of lifting an import out of global into local for python
also yes a fast way to empty an array is to assign to the length property 0
It's noticeably fsster
I tried to find what Math.floor was doing behind the scenes and saw one implementation from some google owned url Ive already forgotten that had a check for -0 specifically so maybe thats the "somehow"
def f(x, _math=math)
Button i remember benching the difference between casting to an int and math.floor in c#
// ECMA 262 - 15.8.2.9
function MathFloor(x) {
x = TO_NUMBER_INLINE(x);
// It's more common to call this with a positive number that's out
// of range than negative numbers; check the upper bound first.
if (x < 0x80000000 && x > 0) {
// Numbers in the range [0, 2^31) can be floored by converting
// them to an unsigned 32-bit value using the shift operator.
// We avoid doing so for -0, because the result of Math.floor(-0)
// has to be -0, which wouldn't be the case with the shift.
return TO_UINT32(x);
} else {
return %MathFloorRT(x);
}
}
(I don't know what/where MathFloorRT is)
// ES6 #sec-math.floor
extern macro Float64Floor(float64): float64;
transitioning javascript builtin MathFloor(
js-implicit context: NativeContext)(x: JSAny): Number {
try {
ReduceToSmiOrFloat64(x) otherwise SmiResult, Float64Result;
} label SmiResult(s: Smi) {
return s;
} label Float64Result(f: float64) {
return Convert<Number>(Float64Floor(f));
}
}
'unless i need readability' sounds like half of my workmates
oh how i hate seeing the little things like condition ? null : function() instead of an if-statement
I like ternary operators, but not when used like that 😛
Other bad uses being stuff like nested ones (especially on the same line, potentially without clarifying parenthesis)
I also love ternary operators but even that to me looks worse than the niceness of a single line if (condition) function()
i looked at Shovel Mod once and quit for life
What did you quit?
Shovel isnt the worst
I dont think shovel has any part where I use an int as a bitflag
How is that supposed to be bad
atra's code 🙂↕️
Hmm
I see your point but don't entirely agree
Either way, it doesn't quit compare to https://github.com/spacechase0/SpaceCore_SDV/issues/2
(Anyways, as far as I care, I do not have the heart or drive to mod. So it's fully irrelevant.)
I would be guilty of stuff like that if I'm in the middle of JSX where it kinda needs to be a singular expression so I can't use if statements.
but I would make it !condition && function() in that scenario or !condition ? function() : null if the null is very critical (it isn't in jsx)
i've seen !condition && function() in here as well and i hate it and i hate it and i hate it
so many obvious js-isms people fall over without testing like doing !int to test for nullishness only to have things fall apart when given 0
The whole point of the mod was making everything into something you can pick up
The shovel was just....okay I'm too on topic
I hate the fact that python doesnt have ??
with null coalescing comes non-null responsibility
Don't forget the !!someVariable to convert truthy-ness into an actual boolean
Thanks I hate that
(That's in python too technically)
But bool(thing) also works
My least favorite thing in python still has to be how obnoxious type annotations are
things spoken by those who do not use asyncio
blueberry am I allowed to pronounce that like uh-since-ee-oh do you think
A-sink-eee-o
it's pronounced as written in the original latin
Smh
Asynchronous is horrible no matter the language
tbh I enjoy JS/TS and C#'s async handling
I mean, I like asynchronous, as long as I don't have to implement it.
i look forward to async in typescript. i welcome it into my home. i offer it tea. i spit on python async await
.then(() => {
.then(() => {
.then(() => {
.then(() => {
Only part of C# async I dislike is legacy of needing ConfigureAwait(false) because the default is true and Bad Things™ happen if you are inconsistent
.then(() => { is a choice 🙂↕️
Isn't there also Bad Things™ if you do async void MyFunc() as well
i want jukebox.ts but i do not want to write jukebox.ts
Like really hard to debug bad things
async void will crash the process if it throws an exception unless therre is a global handler to catch it
yeah that
tbh the JS based jukebox I have on my personal server now ships some python to correctly decode some youtube schenanigans because the JS libraries got discontinued
again literally everyone else at work uses .then(() => { instead of just await or any of our once/when extensions
even then its struggling to keep up and wont play some youtube videos inconsistently
yeah we've shuttered the jukebox here for now since ytdlp is struggling
then(() => {}) scares me purely because why are you waiting for it to run without getting the return value
That means the Jukebox Junkie role is now FOMO content
Sometimes I dont care about the return value sinz
sometimes you simply don't care about the return value. frontend visual fluff and all
though one of the few places I use then instead of await is let myData = await fetch("/some-json-api").then(res => res.json())
i do not know 🙂↕️ mini-jukebox is offline
but im very much async/await first, and only go to then if I want to strategically not pause the function at the point in time
Wait you mean the bot devs aren't counting every hour people spent in that channel by hand on an abacus or something?
oh no, i let aquo do that
what do you think we pay him for
Charming presence?
that only comes up in the quarterly bonus
I thought aquo owned the server
I can't tell if this is serious atra or not
controlling governor is practically owning the server
Has not returned since his outburst earlier
he who controls the flow of quotes controls the galaxy
New quote added by kittycatcasey as #7270 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1470226301767123182)
Seemed like he was just in the mood to run around, and wanted to be sure I knew about it
Abby is just vibing
He returns
I discovered because I heard him using the backpack as a scratching post
That is...hilarious
same vibe as my sibling's cat on our last visit
(she's very upset that anyone ever visits)
she hasn't been adopted for very long yet, only used to my sibling being around
Visitors make noise and noise is bad
so she spends visits just hiding in a corner, unless we manage to get her to steal some treats
abby is still very much against visitors unless its a frequent one
duke hates visitors! unless they give him food or pet him. then duke loves visitors
I will bring bone
my gran had a cat like that. he was famously “evil” (in our defence, he tried killing my cousin when she was a newborn, which is how he ended up with my gran). then when he got old he went deaf and immediately started softening up
admins we're gonna need another channel rename thanks
will it have marrow in it
Do you give him real bones or the fake chew kind
the fake chew kind actually aren’t very good for dogs!
Like, the cookie kind?
cats are important to programming
Bella would mostly get peanut butter
he gets real cow marrowbones. from the nearest butcher. they give them away for free in exchange for your loose change going in the charity jar
(like thinking of new variable names by stepping on the keyboard)
(duke can probably also do this)
oh since you said chew I thought you meant the rawhide kind
The kinda stiff cookie kind is the kind she mostly got tbh
Marrowbones are not nearly free in the US....
you mean dental chews? he gets one of those a day
(I imagine the same is usually true here, our local butcher just doesn’t have a use for them lmao so he doesn’t mind giving them away to dog owners)
(he cannot. only because he isn’t allowed near computers)
Also, for some reason, the water used to cook dumplings
the cats yearn for the unmonitored(?) keyboards
yes duke (known cat) would love to eat use a keyboard
also you should really connect a monitor to your pc whenever you use a keyboard, casey
You clearly need a distraction monitor for Mozart
consider the following:
The problem is that the keyboard stepping tends to be accidental
(supposedly)
He tries to get right where I normally keep my hands... which happens to be where the keyboard is
cat reasons to step on stuff generally seem like either "you're looking at/touching it" or "it's warm"
I'd need a second keyboard and one of those switches so I could switch one actually works
Or "that looks like the most atrociously uncomfortable thing to sleep on ever - time for a nap!"
you should have mentioned this sooner, that's in my opened tabs now
@devout trellis ^ scam
Hi. My name is atra. I'm mostly not insane and I really want to use duff's device in work code.
What the hell is that atra
spooky low level optimization stuff it seems
It's the old magic
Real answer: it relies on interleaving a loop with a switch statement to allow partially unrolling variable-length loops
It's not useful nowadays bc modern compiler optimization renders it obsolete, and additionally duff's device prevents the compiler from vectorizing the loop
It is very cool though
Basically it works by having a loop that does some operation a certain number of times per loop, and then skipping a certain number of the operations to handle numbers that don't align to the "batch" size (the remainder)
Yeah that’s what it looked like to me
I can see why it would be useful for atra though
Yeah, the actual context has to do with i2c autoincrement
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Another video documenting discoveries made during RPCS3's development for you guys. This video covers floating point inaccuracies between Intel and AMD that were impacting LittleBigPlanet multiplayer, explains how ...
That sounds like the issue on Spelunky 1 where some computers can do the double sticky bomb drop trick, and others can't
(When I first got the game I couldn't do it despite seeing it on videos, but when I eventually replaced my computer I was able to)
As I now got to that point, I found the instructions accidentially at the bottom next to the "Wins" display.
I want to read the story, so I'm going for hundred wins.
This game has a story?
You're playing as an arrogant alchemist hired to do stuff. Before and after every puzzle there is a bit of lore about what you have to create. Like, the oldest son fo the house tried to impress another lady by inviting her to their observatory, but it was all rusty, and he made a fool of himself, so now your job is to make oil.
and very deep worldbuilding
every zachtronics game has them, which is not something you'd expect from the usual programming games
Typing is hard when your mind is busy solving puzzles.
SpaceChem is a ||cosmic horror story|| that's about an engineer/chemist on a distant colonized planet ||slowly running into eldritch horrors that kills their coworkers one by one||
also when I say SpaceChem is the hardest of all Zachtronics games this includes the pages of lore you have to read through after every puzzle
I want to play a game alongside Opus Magnum that is the opposite end of the programming spectrum. Which would you recommend?
probably one of the assembly/microcontroller games
where you actually write Real Fake Code
TIS-100? Does that work?
I feel like that game would be too on-topic for this channel though. Can't post any screenshots.
Speaking of, the wiki says you can do this in ||27|| cycles, and I have no idea how.
Wait, maybe I could pull it up.
Isnt programming fine in this channel
when the molecule was finished you took three more cycles to move it to the output; the hyperoptimized solution presumably needed only one
Depends on the Junimo on duty.
Unfortunately no way to optimize after finishing the molecule further. It always takes one cycle to move it off the glyph and one to drop it.
Wait...
oh dear
that beats whatever I did I'm sure
wtf iro went back and beat me in everything in the first chapter
and you also beat me
messed up
Don't worry I'll do worse than u
I also have realized my steam name is my other common handle so I wont be friends with u guys
you can just change it
unless it's literally your id in which case I think you can also change it?
Others can't see the ID, but I believe you can ask steam support to change it. I've seen transgender people mention having done that
The public username is just a normal profile thing though, yeah
Wait, really? I thought you can't change it at all. This changes everything.
I was also under the impression you couldn't change the underlying id at all... I've wanted it changed for like a decade...
my underlying id is comical I love it
its so out of left field of everything else I have its nice as a soft security layer
in part it was originally meant to be a burner steam account I ended up staying on and using as my main anyway
To be honest, I do understand that Steam is ancient and the database might use it as a primary key, which is why I wouldn't hold it against them if they said they can't change it.
isnt the primary key a uuid that comes in many flavors
I did it!!! ...and it's more expensive, uses more area and has exactly the same cycle account. There goes that idea.
the account id (a unsigned 32bit number) would presumably actually be the primary key as its what everything else uses, the username is only used during login
Huh. Yeah, then I don't see any reason for them not to change it.
Why did this page briefly greet me with some anime girl implying I might be a bot
anti AI scraping
It was mostly surprise that it was some anime girl and not like. IDK. The steam logo or something
its a common third party solution used in the opensource space
Even a government site uses it here. I think they replaced the anime girl though.
cowards
I see, I had no idea it was an external service, that's neat
the same thing guards the steamos gitlab instance https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/
The Anubis mascot is shown to all end users and cannot be altered in the software configuration.[1]
https://anubis.techaro.lol/
there is an unbranded variant under commercial licensing
my favorite thing protected by anubis is the UNESCO forums
"Before the artwork was ordered, Anubis used an AI-generated placeholder image." Ironic
yup
though I guess they were technically more against AI web scrapers not adhering to the robots.txt than AI as a whole
Isn't it ironic, dont you think
Like ten thousand forks when all you need is a knife or whatever the
the argument would be that the ai could only make the image in the first place due to prior web scraping
a very valid argument
though it could've been that the web scrapers back then weren't spamming sites yet
(I doubt it)
Considering how much social networks and art hosting pages sell out to AI, it could very well be made without scraping at all.
they sell out to their ai of choice and lock the gates for anyone else
Twitter -> xAI, reddit -> google, etc
I think stuff back then was all basically using the same prelabeled dataset for images
which was also very much acquired through questionable means
I've had the same thought basically every time I open that site and haven't in a while
Did u see that spacex is buying xai lol
Musk gets his wish of having all the X's in one compoany
By the way, I realized I got the puzzle down to the linear minimum. 8 cycles to make a product, and every four cycles a new product will be started. That means it takes 8 cycles for the first one and 4 cycles for the other five products. Which means the best possible solution is not linear, and now I'm confused.
Last version (sorry for posting so much about the game) before calling it a day.
I assure you I did not
you’re the one who said you aren’t going to even try to match my scores in chapter 1 for some reason
I was just about to ask if that was plural zachtronics
zachtronae
Though with just -i I had read it like the name of a noodle
I only recently learned Runescape is a mobile game now
that’s correct, it’s like formulae or antennae
I mean compared to the sound the name of the letter I is
Like I had read it as ee instead
yup, formulae is pronounced formul-ee
Oh
correction, it has a mobile client . It is not a mobile game smh
zachtroni is my favorite pasta shape
is a mobile game not simply a game you can play on mobile?
Macarena
I believe that is correct for -i plurals (but grammar nerds will tell you off for octopi)
no cause I'm a mobile gaming hater and refuse
surprisingly, you should be 🙂↕️
my powers restored. this is my realm once more
when I hear mobile game I think about games with shitty ass gambling systems and pay for faster progression games
Blueberry either grants weird channel rename or takes away my gradient because I say puhkahn
so runescape 3 prior to jan17 or whatever the date was
yes
what happened on jan17
Technically I could do weird channel renames, but I don't think I've done so yet
January 17 is the 17th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar; 348 days remain until the end of the year (349 in leap years).
the one thing i fear is editing roles so you keep your gradient
(Not Sorry, I had to)
they removed their gambling system and the vast majority of their pay to win microtransactions
U can take it if u want to
I'm not that attached
ah was the 19th
I don't know what runescape3 is
runescape3 is "runescape" but adding the 3 makes it easier to be distinct from oldschool runescape
consider that runescape is a continuously-updating live service game. now consider that someone checked-out a 20 year old branch and made a release tag. that is rs3 and osrs
as back in the day, runescape3 was their announcement of the new graphics and world overhaul, while the oldschool runescape backup is still from the runescape 2 era
and runescape1 being the runescape classic era that was 2d
its on my todo list in the next 6 months or so to actually give rs3 an honest try, particularly with the plugin api no longer being on the osrs roadmap but being on the rs3 roadmap instead
Plug-in api?
if you think stardew modders have an efficiency obsession you have no fucking clue what's going on with rs plugins
I do own a footpedal specifically for runescape, though I have yet to actually use it in practice
I dont think stardew modsers have an efficiency obsession
Unless you mean the inverse
An obsession with making things as weirdly slow as possible
ui info suite + lookup anything + embedded wiki + timespeed + fast animations + npc locations + automate + freeze time at midnight + ...
ok now i'm ready to FARM
timespeed, fast animations, automate* and freeze time I would put in the "cheat" category, rest lines up with efficency and links with what insanity happens in the runelite plugin space
you know darn well they'd do it if it weren't a client-server model
Oh, I meant more of "congratulations, you put one of the game's oddly slow functions in a prefix on one of the most called functions in the game"
player effiency not CPU efficiency
though I do think my contributions in stardew modding are net increase of CPU efficiency
i will run stacked linq on each tick
a very heavy program I'm sure
honestly don't think i've opened onenote since high school
maybe the least influential microsoft product since wordpad
is this a company mandate
oh no actually i think Songsmith is microsoft's least influential product
maybe tied with Clipchamp
What is footpedal for
considering I have never heard of either of those
Is it like extra buttons
gamer
stepping on fools in the wildy
a way to do repetitive actions every 0.6 seconds with less risk of RSI
it's for clicking over and over without having to use ur hands
Sewing machine...
I don't have one 
foot pedals are an approved way as its still one human interaction -> one action and nothing inbetweeen massaging the timing of the input
apparently microsoft also has some new thing called Designer which i've never heard of but shows up next to Clipchamp
i really need to debloat this work lappy
I've actually been very impressed by clipchamp
runescape has mangy stray dogs with fleas
and if you pay a subscription fee you can have infinite cats
Adorable
there are dogs you can pet and there are some boss pets that are vaguely dog shaped
RuneScape has lobsters and party hats and some kinda stock market
oh to have all three
That's extent of my knowledge
Awwww
Someone needs to remove the salt from the sidewalk before the stray cats eat some
on a scale of Windows Movie Maker to DaVinci Resolve where does Clipchamp sit
Closer to DaVinci Resolve than movie maker
That fit is very sinz though (no justification will be provided)
red. grey. sharp. pizza cape. small dog.
the two pets I have is the Beaver / fox / pheasant and the turtle (called soup)
i meant to sign on for christmas to get a funny hat or something but i forgot
I got it at like 50-51 sailing too
I do have an account with the beaver
my beaver was also like 57-59 woodcutting but was f2p until like 52-55 woodcutting, so got the pet very early
lucky...
ironically the account with the beaver has the lowest woodcutting level of all my accounts
my alt got the Heron at like 40 fishing in the first 2 hours of being member
I have one with 99 without pet, one with 97 without pet
I think the one with pet has level 92
but it got it at like 65
damn
I've got a character with 99 fishing but alas no heron
they are the only pets I have
🌈
I think I'm 97 farming or something idk I haven't really played the main in a long time
main is an odd term to use I suppose... trade account
I enjoyed the daily fruit tree farm run, and for 97 or 98->99 I did speed it up by adding regular tree runs as well
also got sped up as valamore p3 added extra patches during that window
my only account with any meaningful (member) activity is a group ironman which my alt is also a member of.
everyone else in the group has ditched
two of the members didn't make it into member at all and only lasted a month or two, the final member bailed in november and made a new group without telling me

and my drop in interest in OSRS correlates with that action
I've been playing a chunklocked account for like 9 months now
this is why i shear sheep
my snowflake
I have 70 prayer banked technically I'm just waiting till I'm either forced to use it or I unlock a better way to use them
@cinder karma it's not knitting, but
I should make mozart one
very clean
I have never leveled that evenly on any account
obviously can't on my snowflake. I am entirely incapable of training 6 of the skills and I am at the mercy of my chunk tasks
its mainly a pragmatic one of RC/Prayer/slayer are the least enjoyable so I want tears to go onto that, but that only works if the fast skilling skills are ahead of it
what chunk rules are you following
uh something close to vanilla with a few extras
The Chunk Picker V2 is an all-in-one companion tool to the Oldschool Runescape unofficial gamemode: OneChunkMan. The site allows you to randomly roll chunks, get chunk tasks, and track and share your progress with others.
I only really know the limpwart standard rules
limpwurt xtreme ruleset ain't for me it's too much
I'm closer to the original vanilla ruleset
very diverse chunks
im assuming then you have ports are avalid way to unlock chunks then, instead of the "if walk then only walk"
any 2-way transport yeah
pre-unlocked quetzals as part of the account as well
I also do roll 2 pick 1 where you at least have some control over what you end up with
do the ports in valamore not allow travelling to kourend? or is it some gate where you have to talk to veos first in port sarim before the ports let you go there
you have to travel to port pisc with veos before you can charter there yeah
I considered making an exception to just go through that dialogue but nah
ironically just cause I've enjoyed this account a lot more it has at this point passed my normal ironman in a lot of stats
despite usually quite terrible methods
87 fletching with a steel axe on maple trees was still easily the most brutal
woodcutting was my highest skill for a long time, though did all that with rune not steel
I don't recommend it
took around 400 hours
though a very afk 400 hours
I played many other games during it
These are words

oh being construction and runecraft locked means no perilous moons 🙁
the mines in there are so good for prayer, particularly if you have 72 hunter for sunlight antelope
yeah though unlocking that place is a nightmare itself
especially without herblore
I'll gladly stay locked out for now
Without it can you still use the pool on the roof as long as you get shards from other sources?
Lasik is somehow insanely cheaper than I thought
I am (fortunately? Unfortunately?) not a lasik candidate
"no good chips"
fritos right on top
i won't touch red doritos either, but blue (cool american) is another story
do you dislike corn chips entirely?
the only doritos I really have is the nacho cheese
(also reminder that for australians Crisps/Chips/Fries etc are all just called Chips)
I like corn tortillas!
corn chips are lovely. doritos are not corn chips
sorry corn crisps for the non-australian audience
Isn't it only the British saying "crisp"?
no idea, i only speak english
Tbh I like tortillas chips especially in the context of nachos
I might start off my RS3 as a one chunk and see if I break or not
What does one chunk mean
Map is split up into chunks (64x64 tile regions).
You start off in one chunk, and can only go into new chunks if you finish* everything in your existing unlocked chunks
I have no idea what finish means here
ah you see it is "finish asterisk"
Inside a chunk you have various tasks.
For crumble they have:
- Wield a Teco salamander (80 attack, 80 range)
- Grow a grimy lantadyme (70 farming)
- Do the 8th task in the Ardy hard diary
Once crumble finishes those tasks, they would roll another
you generally are only required to do what is possible to progress, but if in accessing new chunks it becomes possible, you cant roll a new chunk until you re-finish your old chunks again
Runescape has farming?
runescape has farming, arson, theft, and happy home designer
Does it have runes?
it took like 4 years for them to add runecrafting
it was mostly just a scape until then, yes
i don't know if i'm surprised or just disappointed that runecrafting has not changed a single darn detail since being added
just walking to the rock and walking 23 rocks to the other rock to turn into a rock
i know the point is to pay $15/mo to be able to move more rocks at higher speed to turn into different rocks but still
I wonder if there are more vaccines for me to take
in osrs there is the guardian of the rift minigame, Scar essence mine, ZMI and the false blood/soul altars in kourend to mix it up
Mostly just to have a different rock to go to the other rock to turn into a rock
though its mostly a good thing that runecrafting for the most part is... crafting runes
i suppose that while less varied the end result is more useful than anything and everything from Crafting
yum 5000 empty bowls and a beer mug
Crafting does get you the ranged armour with leather and dragonhide
and gem processing into enchanted jewlrey or crossbow bolt tips
you right. runecrafting sucks
I don't mind runecrafting, I just mind that its slow as its balanced around selling the runes to other players and so must suck xp/hr
i thoroughly mind runecrafting
I make pretty much all my runes and don't really buy any of them from stores
only real exception being soul runes as I dont think I have the runecraft level for it
see that was me until i ran out of runes
should i ask how long this took
overcensored a bit in the middle but topline numbers are still present
outside of the blood, astral, soul and dust runes, the rest would have almost entirely been from guardian of the rift
Some of the cosmics might have been directly made, Blood runes would be a mix of gotr and false altar, and dust runes would be slayer.
slayer / other combat would have also contributed to some of the stacks as well, but runecrafting would be the majority
damn .net 10 just does not work in vs2022
I have downloaded vs2026
now I can set the editor to the mango paradise theme, incredible new features
as a bonus it seems they removed the ability to set your own font
~~I use vim okay ~~
ah no you can change it you just have to go into the old settings menu
classic windows design
Is net 10 significantly better?
I don't think so
Alright I'll skip it
it does take a few steps in automatically stack allocating temporary arrays/classes
unfortunately .net 10 asp.net core actually made the problem I was trying to fix worse, not better
I might have to concede defeat
has the fun stuff of .net9 but actually lts
looking through, one of the promising aspects of .net10 is its work in de-abstraction https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/108913
and they were helpful enough to have some numbers going back to .net6
(I assume their .net10 numbers are prior to the changes that actually shipped as this was the umbrella ticket tracking the work)
de-abstraction sounds useful in a language extremely dominated by abstractions...
Zero cost abstractions TM
I've also been binging on casey muratori content and him getting angry at clean code principles of polymorphism over if/switch for this reason of how much performance is lost in C++ virtual function calls
so finding that C# is quietly trying to secretly remove the virtual calls when it can get away with it is nice
and its initiatives like it that'll make C# a very fast language if it keeps advancing in its AOT ambitions but still have the JIT available to do further runtime optimizations based on how its getting called
I found out our new employee portal is c#
It also fell over yesterday when I was trying to see if they fixed the pto bug
My time in asp.net was a joy. (Both framework and core)
Though it was purely an API server where all endpoints were json and all explicitly stateless.
Can u fix pto bug then
(The pto bug is that they didnt transfer our banked pto hours from last year correctly)
That sounds like an application problem and not asp.nets fault
And depending on how cynical you are feeling potentially deliberately done
Unlikely lol, we will get our hours back
I don't think they get paid out if we hit cap though
At my work there isn't a cap but if it goes over 6 weeks management can force us to use it to go back to 4 weeks
Our cap is the rollover cap....we only get like 150ish hours rolled over year to year
I think I did get it up to 8 weeks at one point before I changed managers and they started actually enforcing that
Some companies will pay out if you hit the cap but that is rare these days
(Usually at a 50% rate...)
I know if I leave the company my remaining PTO gets paid to me at a 50% rate
But I didnt check policy for hitting cap and I'll just take a holiday if I get close lol
My understanding is if I left I'll get it all paid out at 100% and isn't really a concept of rollover
But I'm also a union member so..
What's a union lol
Technically I think I get comp time (not overtime) but frankly no one is tracking that lol
Comp time - every hour of overtime (more than 40 hours a week) is an hour of pto
From what I've seen Australia has a much stronger union movement than the US.
Also helps that our equivalent of the democrats is Labor and is directly tied to the trade union movement
Yeah, I was mostly joking lol
We do have unions in the US. Just...not many
And definitely not for engineers
I'm technically telecommunications which is old enough to still have union roots
Even if we had unions we are small enough that like. Even normal labor laws dont apply lol
That and the company was originally government and was privatised during late 90s early 00's
Lol the gym is doing a valentine's day free day
Raise your hand if you think going to the gym is a great date
I’m sorry.
(Yes I’m still annoyed at that one feature that is now laggy, how do you know?)
Can I put my hand into the ground instead?
A friend has informed me of this. @crystal wren New option for your game?
I almost sent that to you last night!
They made a toothpaste?
it's really more of a way to get high quality 3D running in flutter
I’m not on that team, but someone at work said that
(I happen to indirectly work for Toyota)
Probably cool tech, but I’m also not personally interested in Flutter
Blazor my beloathed
I'm bitter today
I work out for fun and would not even bring a gym crush to a date at the gym tbh
I'm increasingly convinced excel doesn't offer any reliable non-stupid way to not interpret someone's clipboard table data when pasting
you can do it on the excel side by setting the columns to format as text but from the clipboard data side...
nightmare
tomorrow I might check how the browser version of excel copies to the clipboard as my last act of desperation
New quote added by atravita as #7280 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1470808950801694850)
What is flutter
it's annoying because people are used to it working from the Microsoft Access version but that seems to use some undocumented Microsoft specific mime type that the browser clipboard api doesn't support
a gui framework
I considered using it once but didn't want to have to learn dart for it
dart in turn is a programming language whose main purpose is to be used with flutter
to the degree that flutter is mentioned in the very first section of the dart overview page
I wonder if Dart has any other application
It's a great set of trains in Dallas
a bunch of Google services
though I think genuinely all of them involve flutter in some fashion
it's at most a backend api for a flutter application
there's nothing here that isn't flutter
I've been told it's genuinely a nice language though
by the way am I the only one who reads "beloathed" as "be loa thed" rather than "be loathed"? Similar to beloved?
specifically in the context of "_ my beloathed" messages
I read it that way too
Have I shared this here before?
https://www.sporcle.com/games/TheDahliaBlooms/kirby-or-yuri
sometimes when I'm just out doing normal stuff with my husband I like to ask him if it counts as a date. i've never tried it at the gym, but also we don't go to the gym.
he says if I complain nonstop about how tiring walking is while on a walk (that was my idea) it's not a date 😂
thrown off a bit because I wasn't expecting visual novels and manhua, but not bad 
There's a running joke in the fitness community
also I've tried the kirby-vs-touhou-song one before and was like 90% wrong
About going to the gym on valentine's day
To find all the other single people
Because like who the fuck brings someone to the gym on a date
I got 57/84. It surprised me how well I did (though having seen jokes about it before probably helped)
I don't exactly listen to kirby music unless I'm playing kirby games
yeah, kirby song titles get pretty out-there and I don't know most of them
this was all "oh right, I recognize that yuri title translation"
There was also only like 3-5 yuri title names I recognized on there (and only one of which I actually played/read)
the last one I got was one I almost recommended the other day 
basically frieren but yuri and extremely sad (death timer)
and finnish-themed for some reason
Down with doomed yuri!
Bring on the inevitable yuri instead!
I got exactly 50% and knew exactly one title.
Though I don't consume either media, but that's mostly due to a lack of general motivation to consume any media.
I was doing significantly worse than random chance
Oh, I never picked at random. In the end I noticed if it's about "two", "girls", sounds kinky, too generic or like an Undertale track it's Yuri, otherwise it's Kirby.
"Love" is 50/50.
I also didn't pick at random. I was being worse than random
Yeah, there were quite a few that threw me off. But that's also kinda expected, otherwise there wouldn't be a quiz about it.
Oh, and "drama" or "tragedy" is almost always Yuri, but that seems to be part of the genre clichés.
Like half way through the quiz I started doing the opposite of what it felt like for a lot of them, and I started getting better results
I recognized Highway Blossoms. I played that. But I somehow got distracted and never finished it.
Same, and same
New quote added by atravita as #7283 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1470836744843821108)
Yay, I got quoted. Now I'm really part of this server.
U have enough to get the mod authors role if u make mod
wow
Same tbh
Given that i dont read yuri and I dont know who made so much music for Casey's cat
I already made mod, just am too lazy to apply.
(I mean... if you just add yourself to the wiki's community page, it can be done pretty much now.
)
Dh will u make game with toothpaste engine
sounds like effort
toothpaste engine...
Ichor, see this
My university rewards me with credits for trying new game engines, so I will probably try it.
I really need to find Godot a safer home
He has been moved two shelves higher. We shall see if that is enough to spare him from the tail lashings of destructions
To anyone who might be interested, you can change the default location to which Opus Magnum saves GIFs by editing config.cfg that is... somewhere.
when you say LTS do you mean LTS or microsoft LTS (just S)
3 years > 1 year
ah. TS
Too late, I completed it
Does it have an auto post to Twitter function
auto post to twitter function would need working twitter apis still
"The most dangerous animal in this planet"
You could write an observer for the output directory.
Who else will play fun looking machine game next
do not look at me. i am busy with other fun games
well now you have to share
no, i don't 😜

Iro, what games does Button play
Why ask Iro that
Iro was available to ask
By the way, I finally managed to bring it down to 27.
This looks incredibly cursed.
dear god
I noticed an interesting bug: If you drag an arm back to the "shop", then additionally hold right, then drag it back on the board, it will disappear, but the instructions track won't be deleted.
A new arm will replace the instruction track though.
I'd love to submit an issue and a pull request, but...
I am also busy with funny train simulation game from 1995
connected every town on the map with extensive passenger and mail transit system last night, now to feed them food
some may argue food is more important than mail, but that's only true irl
My left arm for a better spec
I legitimately think it's not clear
It depends on how you put a pause in this one sentence, and if you assume a figure is the only way something is supposed to work and not just one way if is supposed to work
Transport Tycoon by any chance ?
OpenTTD, so yep 
Open source for the win
dope game btw
it’s okay I had no idea how to answer
multiplayer sdv with your wife is the only one I know
on a tablet, really good! never tried on a smaller screen
speaking of food, last call bbs has one of my favourite zachtronicses in it
20th century food court
hmm what's it like
What is a 20th century food court
And how the fuck does it distinguish itself from the 21st
it’s a retrofuturistic satirical take on a food court! the story is that a company in the 2500s has created a roleplay foodcourt modelled after historical records of the 20th century
it has some fun barbs too, like a soda dispenser than doesn’t change the soda dispensed, only the cup it’s dispensed in
a little messy/unpolished (especially the ui, like most of the last call bbs games) but a ton of fun imo, you have a limited space to use tracks and devices to make all types of products one of their attractions needs
My brain is too fried to understand those words lol
Iro
I know why engineering is like lawyers
and the reason it’s 20th and not 21st is that last call’s bbs main thing is set in the 90s 
just skip the first three words then
everything else you can understand
bizarre cause and effect
Wdym?
how does your shin hurting make you go swimming
It means more that running is out of the question
ah 
And the only one you shall as I remain an enigma
Button only plays SDV. Got it
based on conversations one of the runescapes is in the list
Last time I played any Runescape was about 10 years ago
One of the runescapes
I think you may be confusing me with someone else in the runescape conversations
I think im thinking of blueberry
hmm conveyor belt chicken
that’s the joke of the game, at some point they call it “authentically hand machine made” 
I'm almost exactly the same person as blueberry so thats fair
I like that everything but the drumstick goes in the trash
they have lots of little jokes about stuff like that
and the last level was genuinely quite difficult
You're also Australian?
Looks pretty
I did say almost
Okay maybe Button is also Canadian
They should put this in amogus
If so, practically the same country as we share the same head of state
I wonder
poor button
I enjoy the guessing games!
My guess is that button is Australian bc spider
We can read her timezone in her bio.
The most Australian in the room 🙂↕️
I could be lying about the timezone
I could also have gotten the timestamp thingy wrong, which is honestly not a zero probability
Don't worry
I will not worrg
Worg
I never update my timestamp thing since I moved
Fair, but then you could be lying about everything else as well. As such, we can only reach any kind of conclusion by taking everything you say at face value.
It's been inaccurate for a while
Exactly! Y'all are welcome to trust or distrust anything
Good luck figuring me out
/lh
I think spooders r neat
Meanwhile I'm an open book, you know exactly what I'm currently obsessed with
Cough ||ejae dropped a new single||
You think this because they are!
Spiders are awesome
This is the most accurate representation of me that anyone is gonna get in this server
you are unlike me. i am an enigma. shrouded in mystery. wrapped in pastry. baked at 200c for 20~25 mins. line-dry in the shade
Don't forget the egg wash
The orb freaks me out. The spider is cute though.
i replaced the egg-wash text with line-dry when washing made me think of laundry
get out of my head
Too alike 😔
Loves cooking (sometimes)
Lacks AC
Likes standing desks
currently standing at my desk without ac thinking about how to avoid cooking
Not actually a blueberry, might actually be rhubarb
bluebarb?
I am ambivalent about the theory but back in that one mod jam button and blueberry both got jammed despite being the few non orang in making mods gen
Speaking of that I'm wondering if there will be a 10th anniversary event?
Blue and purple representation 😌
anyone who knows me (and that i am not button) knows i could never be a server mod
You used to be green
Anyone who knows me isn't here
i could never reapply 🙂↕️
To be fair... I didn't apply either, so this doesn't disqualify the theory 🙂↕️
sometimes we randomly choose sacrifices and make them staff by brute force
In the junimo realm
It's orange and green smoke, chue
Yeah I didn't have a choice they threatened to give me the cheeto dust
divine right
If I didn't comply
They gather in the Vatican
Terrifying
I am reading a book about food at the moment
Please don't ever choose me, I couldn't handle it.
And there is a lot aboit how cheetos work
I can never be a moderator because my style is to ban anyone whose vibe doesn't fit
noted, you will be next 🙂↕️
I find them quite simple to understand
(Fwiw, I'm glad you have more junimos now)
(/joking)
I think I am just too seasonal
After a bunch of people stepped down last summer
The reverse double air bud rule, I understand
Fall, etc
I feel like I'd need to be active in more channels but one and a half to be a moderator.
I'm glad y'all got more apple bois
To be fair, I've typed more outside of making-mods-general now since being apple'd than I have in my entire life in the server so far.
(This is me being serious for once)
I don't think I had a single message in #town-square until recently, for instance.
I didn't know that channel was a thing until now.
oh yeah i never sent anything outside of making-mods until i had to lol
I joined, read the rules, went straight to #making-mods-general and hid all other channels but this one.
i liked town-square, there were some funny regulars there
I have a total of 63,976 messages in this server. 58,523 of them are in #making-mods-general
granted i've not actually been there since taking a year off lol
Anyways
I actually think I may have more messages in one of the old temporary contest channels than #modded-stardew
Bluebs, when are you making the mod "Tired of Cooking"
shocked only 50,000/83,000 of my messages are in mmg
I'm shocked I have more than you in there at all
i make mods about escapist fantasies such as loving cooking
You do have slitherlegs
21000/34000 in mmg, damn im baby
I'd had my eye on button for a few years and noted how she interacted with the modding/tech channels in a way that could reasonably be transferred to off topics just fine if needed to be there
Atra I'm afraid I'm going to have to ban you for being on topic here
if i want to be tired of cooking all i need to do is wake up in the morning
A few years...
Okay!

I'll be off then, now that I'm banned
Huh, the time I got chosen as sacrifice it was more of a "hey wanna be a sacrifice?" rather than a "hey you get to be a sacrifice" 
Of course, that was ages ago, if sacrifices are more scarce it makes sense they'd be forced now
shh, they're meant to be afraid
Being a sacrifice isn't all that bad. You get to scare people into going back on topic just by showing up in the channel 😌
oh there's probably a bunch of reasons for that, probably to do with timezones, my cosmic release schedule, your overall iterative responsive design process with frameworks, ..
The fact that we're both in the 50ks makes it even more likely that we are the same person, though.
You have more overall than me (excluding potential archived channels maybe I guess?), but I ahve more #making-mods-general messages.
yes 🙂↕️
<something something killed my motivation for Gourmet Overhaul>
am I an outlier for actually liking cooking
then again I come from a country whose cuisine is arguable top 1 in the world
sorry not sorry
sometimes i miss the chill wind i brought to a channel
the feeling of knowing you're being watched, and judged, by someone or something currently typing
that ill sense of foreboding
I like the part where the tasty food is fed to me 
Ugh I cant change my username on mobile because the app crashes every time
Blueberry did you just get desperado, your purple feels different than I remember
Maybe from being a different monitor
Ambivalent about the part where the food is assembled
Bread
fair, I only buy bread
now you can experience this yourself, though!
Also I'm going to assume Button changed their name just to spite me personally (since we all know how I am with names)
Cooking is amazing, but the manual stuff of cutting vegetables isn't.
w
Tbh I kinda like cooking when I'm motivated enough
But dont like the part where I actually have to eat food
h
I can't take the blame for (some) of this one
There we go
everyone hates me specifically
I don't actually know who had changed my name so feel free to blame every other junimo 
Also, you have a cat, how is Mozart doing
I mean, you could check the audit log
If only there were mods for Discord so that you could enforce seeing the usernames instead of the profile names... oh well...
You know this means war
Oh, if blueberry is Button now, then I can go back to blueberry and no longer be breaking the impersonation rule
Lol
I dunno I've been downstairs all day, only just about to go back up
It's not impersonation if we swap identities
I think you can manually give everyone nicknames if you don't value your time
I enjoyed it when Elizabeth and I were the mathspeople
That's actually a good idea. I could automate that.
If u add notes to ppl u can keep track
I feel that everyone else on my friends list is going to be more confused than people in here about this
Where's the fun in keeping track
(1) alas, against the TOS
(2) that will not help with causes like iro vs ichor
Discord removed the option to see pictures in compact mode
(2) I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Should have gone with "Switch" or smth like that
Oh, no, its back
im afraid I don't understand Relay 
Oh come on iro and ichor are very different people
I know they're different, I just don't know why
Button u should use the frieren from particular angle
I mean I also get tlitookilakin mixed up with those two. My brain is not sane
It's actually kind of incredible how weirdly different blueberry's messages read in my head like this
I almost forced ichor to be a junimo instead of iro by mistake
The category is discrete electrical components
im sorry for not being presumably old enough /s
Orb
I don't think sane people would enjoy being here, so...
I cant believe this fits
A relay is a thing that can switch on and off another circuit, right?
You heard em @prisma flume
one day I might finish frieren S1 so I can watch S2
My thinky-ness is used up for the night, maybe tonight
German for freeze I think
i think frieren is an anime? im not the person to ask
pls dont kill me
What's an anime
Though I gotta run an errand, and by the time I get back webtoon will have updated, and I also want to try and not stay up until past midnight again...
Is kpop demon hunters an anime
100%
It is Korean. It is animated
Frieiren is a contemporary anime following the life of a high school wizard girl after transferring to a new school and is chosen by her magical girl mascot
Therefore it is anime
I can go more detail if you like 😌 I have all day
Sure!
wrong country but you have the spirit
Can confirm. I can never watch that anime because it's too cold.
is kpop demon hunters not a korean made movie?
I think any big production nowadays is at least an American co-production.
(speaking of anime the new Uma movie is opening in US/Canada soon, and as a Canadiens I find it hilarious that Waterloo and Whitby has showtimes, but not Toron-freaking-to)
Hors
(like wtf is Whitby)
Wait which new hors movie

(apologies to any Whitbians in chat)
i know very little about kpop demon hunters, the craze for it passed over my head like an ungotten joke
Frieren is only my second favourite anime since I put on an episode of Slam Dunk (1990) while milling around on Netflix with a friend and it was actually jokes
kpop demon hunters was made by sony for netflix, so american production
Same here until my SO forced me to watch it. It's... a movie...
beginning of a new era
Sony is American?
(but my comment was that anime is jp not korean)
yeah it's out for a while, but this is official english theatre release
oh. in hindsight that was obvious
The studios probably are.
the animation studio is
Yep, LA.
The horse racing in that one was like domain expansion
I can't tell if this is part of the ruse
Big screen would be cool 
I was trying to make the kind of analogy you would make there
It seemed like a bblueberry thing to say
Alas my wife asked me where Frieren went so the ruse must end 😌
i would never say ungotten.
you just did
that username is wrong, SButton is part of StardewModdingAPI
yeah please fix your namespace
username length limits 🙂↕️
Sony is Japanese
Then do SMAPI.SButton
compile error 🙂↕️
at least then it's clear what is meant
They do everything so they're definitely Japanese
And not you hallucinating
I can't tell if you're joking or not
My favorite SButton is SButton.MouseX1
If someone is trying to compile this channel as code, they probably need to see a psychiatrist
but yes sony the big face is japanese, their studios underneath them are not however
(also it'll compile error here too because it doesn't exist in StardewValley namespace)
sony is so big
Look, my impression of Sony is "real fun technology"
then there is no difference between the two names 🙂↕️



