programmers-off-topic

[safe dragon]

why is the car average based on diesel

who still drove diesel in 2019

[sand frost]

for example in the US, SF to LA (two big cities):

• once a day Amtrak takes 12 hours, requires a connection in san jose
• driving takes 6-8 hours depending on traffic
• flights are 45 min, dozens every day
• driving costs around $50 maybe (depends on car)
• flights are maybe $75 one way, lowest around $50 one way
• train is $54 if you book 3 months in advance, $137 2 weeks in advance

[safe dragon]

I believe in amtrak somehow conjuring tons of funding out of thin air

so they can improve service

I think the eurostar to paris goes once an hour?

yeah once an hour

[little furnace]

Domestic rail is worse than coach?

[sand frost]

Similar distance seems to be Paris to Stuttgart:

• 6.5 hours driving
• 5x a day 3-4 hour train trip

[safe dragon]

it's stats from the UK where much of domestic rail is not electrified

[sand frost]

it tells me it's 160€ to go today

[safe dragon]

if you're somewhere that doesn't have an extremely outdated rail network domestic rail would be a lot more efficient than that 41g figure

the entire netherlands has had electrified rail for a long time I think

[sand frost]

wait no there's a direct train every 2 hours?? wow that's so much nicer

[safe dragon]

Amsterdam Paris I think is around 6 hours driving and 3 hours by train

once an hour

[sand frost]

here it's often 2x slower to train instead of 2x faster

[little furnace]

We also only have electrified rails for local rides. Even short-distance between smaller cities is diesel here (Germany).

[sand frost]

it looks like if i book 2 weeks out it's also cheaper (around 80€) than a comparable US distance

[safe dragon]

yeah I mean germany has not been funding rail very much for a little too long

good reason DB is mostly known for its delays now instead of being well regarded

[little furnace]

I think it's also because the average occupancy is low due to late-night trains and trains running on schedule while coaches run on demand (at least I think coaches don't run when only one person has booked them).

[safe dragon]

that would make sense

though that's not any different for the eurostar in that same picture

it goes every hour whether there's 3 passengers or 300

though it doesn't go during the night

but almost no trains do

usually they stop service around like 1 am

[little furnace]

Yeah, but even the midnight trains usually have only up to 10 people.

[safe dragon]

unless there was a football match

I regret my life choices every time I end up on a late train when there was a football match

hordes of drunk football fans yelling at each other, likely fans from the opposing teams

[little furnace]

I realized I can upgrade my ticket to first class in these cases and I can't wait to try it out.

[safe dragon]

fancy

[little furnace]

This will make such a difference.

[safe dragon]

I have never taken an overnight train before

I've taken an overnight ferry before to london

to greenwich technically I think

oh looks like greenwich is considered part of london

[little furnace]

I kinda have. Do not recommend. Very uncomfortable. At least the DB ones.

[safe dragon]

yeah it doesn't look great

I'm also tall

which does not help

[little furnace]

How dare you not be exactly 1.75m!!!

[safe dragon]

soz

that'd have made me short by dutch standards

I'd be shorter than both my mom and sister

[little furnace]

I'd like to be that short.

[cinder karma]

Just get drunk and yell at both football teams

[little furnace]

That's the Irish way.

[safe dragon]

alas I don't drink

[cinder karma]

Steal a street sign while you're at it

.....the ad engine cant seem to make up its mind on whether I (a) want new flooring done or (b) own a flooring company

[cyan shadow]

Crumble
I saw a brand new ram pickup truck lut and about today
I was extremely confused

It didn't even fit in the road all that well

[safe dragon]

why is it always a ram

[cyan shadow]

I don't know

It was empty, too

[safe dragon]

is it the only pickup truck that was deemed road legal in the Netherlands

[cyan shadow]

And blaring bad carnival music

There's a cool vintage one in the city as well

That one looks less like an abomination and more a case study in the structural preservative powers of rust

[safe dragon]

lmao

[cyan shadow]

It's just old

[safe dragon]

probably smaller then too

[cyan shadow]

Always the lousier songs

Always

Never Yves Berendse
Not even Goldband
Always the really kids TV show sounding stuff

[safe dragon]

smh

you do have to be a child mentally to decide to buy that while living in an urban area in the Netherlands

[cyan shadow]

Guy probably frequents the club nearby that exclusively plays the yo ho ho and a bottle of rum sounding ass music

[cyan shadow]

Especially an urban area with a habit of turning streets into single lane roads

[safe dragon]

you could not buy a less convenient vehicle to own

[cyan shadow]

I went in there once, took 400 psychic damage and fucked off

[safe dragon]

lmao

someday I'll meet one of those people irl

[cyan shadow]

If the guy was a tradie I'd kind of get it? But he doesn't seem to be one

If he was a tradie I'd understand loading the truck up with stuff

[cinder karma]

What if I'm a child mentally

[cyan shadow]

Just buy a tractor at that point if you want to be a loud nuisance on the road

[safe dragon]

good for u the world is a lot nicer then

[cinder karma]

Plz entertain me with a free Costco rotisserie chicken

[cyan shadow]

Add a party trailer and you make passive income while going to Albert Heijn

[safe dragon]

get yourself a tractor so you can block major highways during protests

[cyan shadow]

Pfff

Let's not go that far

[cinder karma]

Maybe I will get a tractor

[modest steppe]

become a real farmer

[safe dragon]

it'd certainly be a good conversation starter

[cyan shadow]

I want one of those banana boat looking go-karts I see on the bike lanes sometimes

[safe dragon]

"why is there a tractor in your driveway"

[safe dragon]

they fascinate me

[cinder karma]

Would it be a good conversation starter

[cyan shadow]

They're so incredibly goofy

[modest steppe]

make little sweaters for the chickens in the coop

[cinder karma]

Crumble every third day i threaten to go out and buy some farmland when I become financially independent

[cyan shadow]

Especially if you're driving one in Nijmegen on those slopes and reaching Formula 3 speeds

[safe dragon]

there was one banana cyclist where I used to live

I'd always look

[cyan shadow]

There's exactly one where I live rn

He's an old geezer who drives with while wearing a motorcycle helmet

Funniest thing on the planet

[safe dragon]

I believe in your dream

[modest steppe]

banana go kart...

[cyan shadow]

Saw one going nyooooooooom down the Waalkade and around the bend, back up towards Kronenburger Park and my mom laughed for... 10 minutes straight

[modest steppe]

oh my god

[cyan shadow]

Banana boat.

[modest steppe]

i need one

[cyan shadow]

They go rather fast, too

[modest steppe]

this is the best human creation ever

it doesn't get better than banana go kart

[safe dragon]

they're beautiful I agree

[modest steppe]

crumble i just realized ur icon is an owl

ngl spent a very long time thinking it was just a lit dessert man

[safe dragon]

that's okay

I like that

[rain apex]

Lil dessert owl

I also didn't realize until bea mentioned just now

[safe dragon]

oh I should switch to the Christmas version

[modest steppe]

its crismus soon

chu i also didn't realize yours had a cat in it. i think im just bad at small details

[safe dragon]

alright

[rain apex]

I don't have a cat

Wow beautiful

[modest steppe]

what is that thing then

[rain apex]

Medjedra

[modest steppe]

perfect for crisis

[rain apex]

So in theory a medjed + dragon

[modest steppe]

[googles it] i see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medjed

[safe dragon]

I like my Christmas version I made it myself

[safe dragon]

beautiful

[modest steppe]

leg

[rain apex]

https://tenor.com/view/jkm-jkm3-justkillme-justkillme3-just-kill-me-gif-7664163828199224435

[modest steppe]

this creature only has good vibes

[fleet wren]

so funny that this thing can apparently shoot laser out of its eyes

and breathe flame

[modest steppe]

checks out

wait no it doesn't have a mouth

how breathe fire

[safe dragon]

it breathes through its skin

360 flame thrower

(idk)

[modest steppe]

i believe this

[rain apex]

I know the name of that smiter [i.e., Medjed] among them who belongs to the House of Osiris, who shoots with his eyes, yet is unseen. The sky is encircled with the fiery blast of his mouth and Hāpi makes report, yet he is unseen.

My beloved has less lore than a ygo card

[fleet wren]

the cons of being the unseen one

[safe dragon]

but the lore does say they have a mouth

[modest steppe]

do i dare ask where it is

[rain apex]

Unseen :)

Medjedra is specifically from puzzles and dragons

[safe dragon]

that's many

so much for unseen

[rain apex]

Baby numbers cus medjedra is a farmable monster

Not a gacha

[safe dragon]

ah not a gacha

now I can like it

[fleet wren]

the pvz replanted rant as requested by #making-mods-general

[modest steppe]

wow

garbage

i heard about them creating fake concept art like

[little furnace]

And people complain about Nintendo remasters. This almost feels like every fan's nightmare.

[dusty pollen]

we can complain about both

(/lh)

[little furnace]

True.

[modest steppe]

complain about all

[dusty pollen]

complaints for everyone!

[modest steppe]

AI upscaling is a blight upon us all

[dusty pollen]

spy kids 3 is the best spy kids though, so I will admit some franchises improve in the sequels

-# fite me

[modest steppe]

....

do u mean spy kids iro

[fleet wren]

wait do you mean-

lmao

[red crest]

somebody ring the dinkster?

[cinder karma]

I liked spy kids 3 🙁

[modest steppe]

did we?

[robust quarry]

god i adored PVZ garden warfare

[dusty pollen]

ahem bea

[little furnace]

A lot of 80s franchises also improved with time.

[modest steppe]

did u like the other one

[cinder karma]

Also FYI modern TVs will engage in AI upscaling

[modest steppe]

oh dear

[red crest]

by mentioning spy kids yes

[modest steppe]

k and p are too close

(they really arent)

[dusty pollen]

3 is the best one

[modest steppe]

what does 3 have

[red crest]

the dinkster

[cinder karma]

3d

[dusty pollen]

video games

[modest steppe]

[dusty pollen]

elijah wood

[cinder karma]

Also i like the song (Game Over)

I'm told the video games in that movie are inaccurate

[little furnace]

AI upscaling is something I accept for rendering, not for textures in paid games.

[modest steppe]

spy movies used to be so...

[cinder karma]

But I haven't played enough video games to know

[dusty pollen]

sky high is also a very good movie, speaking of sky vs spy

[modest steppe]

just don't watch gamer and you'll be fine

[dusty pollen]

any movie that names an antihero Warren Peace is guaranteed to be good though

[rain apex]

Is sky high the superhero highschool movie

[red crest]

i haven't thought about sky high since it came out

[modest steppe]

yes

[dusty pollen]

I’m not convinced I was alive when it came out

[fleet wren]

sky high is sooooo good

[modest steppe]

something about sidekicks?

[red crest]

im not convinced you're alive now

[rain apex]

I think it commits the crime of making the normal mc special all along and therefore it's bad to me :)

[dusty pollen]

true

[rain apex]

First half is fun tho

[modest steppe]

yeah that trope is ass and cringe

[dusty pollen]

I forgive it this time

oh I was indeed alive

not alive enough to remember it

[red crest]

chu is the last person I expected to have opinions on sky high

[little furnace]

I found it a bit cheesy.

[modest steppe]

implying you used to be alive but not anymore

[dusty pollen]

why does it feel like an eighties movie

[rain apex]

And tbh it predated much worse cases in anime like naruto so

[dusty pollen]

it came out in 2005

[modest steppe]

are we blaming sky high for naruto

[little furnace]

I think it's supposed to feel like one.

[rain apex]

Yeah

they played us for the long con

[modest steppe]

who do we blame for... the one where u find weird fruit

[fleet wren]

ngl naruto didnt need to be the ||descendant of one of the literal fking founders of ninjutsu||

[modest steppe]

one... piece

[fleet wren]

oh fuck is that spoilers

[modest steppe]

,,,,now i am thinking about ninjago

[rain apex]

Naruto has ended for more than 10 years you fine

[red crest]

if there's one thing you have to know about me it's that I've never consumed a single bit of Naruto media

so everything is spoilers to me

[dusty pollen]

I read over 4000 pages of the manga and still barely made it past the very beginning. why is there so much of it

[modest steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-lego-ninjago-ninjago-sensei-wu-wu-gif-11256352134333665323

why do i know about this

[red crest]

because it has over 15 seasons

[rain apex]

Button i feel like my taste in media consistently surprise you

[modest steppe]

it does have a ride in universal but its, so bad

the worst ride to exist

[red crest]

what else has surprised me besides sky high

[modest steppe]

did u watch spy kids chu

[rain apex]

That other time when u asked me for a list of video games i was playing

[rain apex]

Nop but totally spies was great

[red crest]

tbf that's a lot different from sky high I think

[modest steppe]

uhh

see tottally spies was fun

[rain apex]

French ppl r quite good at not anime i think

[modest steppe]

its just, rewatching it with adult context

[red crest]

everyone loves the lipstick mirror laser

[modest steppe]

feels a bit, sus

[rain apex]

Code lyoko was also really good 6head aside

[dusty pollen]

have you played maplestory chu

not that I think it seems like you would, but it’s an important question nonetheless

[little furnace]

Can you explain?

[dusty pollen]

that’s literally the only thing I remember about totally spies

[red crest]

i only watched bits and pieces of kid lyoko when I was young but it seemed neat

don't think any explanation from bea is suitable for this server

[rain apex]

I play 2 months whenever they drop a new class and give ppl 10x exp boost then i quit cus i dont wanna grind

[modest steppe]

yeah no

[dusty pollen]

I thought totally spies was just a kid knockoff of charlie’s angels

[modest steppe]

i can't explain without breaking a rule

[rain apex]

I did like the class where u get a robot

[dusty pollen]

they just dropped a new class like a month ago

-# and also the burning event is now on pretty much all the time lmao. it’s terrible

[little furnace]

Rules are made to be broken please don't

[modest steppe]

all my friends hated clover

[red crest]

what is Charles Angels

[dusty pollen]

uh, resistance mech?

[modest steppe]

also, an old movie i think

[rain apex]

Mechanic or something, u pilot the mech

[dusty pollen]

grownup version of totally spies

[terse galleon]

i'm not even that old and i think i just aged 10 years hearing charlie's angels described as an old movie

[fleet wren]

code lyoko mention

[dusty pollen]

that’s because there are like five charlie’s angels movies lmao

[modest steppe]

all these movies/shows are old

[dusty pollen]

the most recent one was this decade

[red crest]

Google tells me it's from the 70s. I think that's fair play to call an old show

[dusty pollen]

they’ve been remaking it every ten to fifteen years

[rain apex]

I did consistently get code lyoko and reboot confused cus im ESL

And would go like why the graphics better sometimes

[modest steppe]

can they stop remaking shit

[rain apex]

No reboot as in that show

[modest steppe]

i saw a trailer for a new movie for the devils wear prada

[little furnace]

But... money...

[terse galleon]

the movie i'm thinking of is early 2000s with cameron diaz lucy liu etc

[rain apex]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBoot?wprov=sfla1

This thing

[modest steppe]

i have not watched a movie before 2000

i was not alive

well i was a literal baby in 2000

[red crest]

they've never tried a modern remake of the best old show which is Columbo because they know they'd fail

[dusty pollen]

yup like I said, it’s a bit like the james bond movies except they all have the same name

[modest steppe]

when did the mission impossible movies start

[fleet wren]

columbo being so big in japan is quite funny and interesting

[red crest]

which mission impossible movies

[fleet wren]

they adore him

[modest steppe]

bc at the some point u just have to admit the mission is possible

[red crest]

the modern ones are a reboot lol

[cinder karma]

Teensy!

[modest steppe]

did they not begin with tom cruz??

[dusty pollen]

bea are you older than me

[red crest]

Tom Cruz

[modest steppe]

im 25

[rain apex]

The old one were tv show and cruiseless

[devout vault]

spoilers for another series ||snape killed dumbledore||

[modest steppe]

are u baby?

[red crest]

the original mission impossible is from like the early 60s

[dusty pollen]

oh then only by a few months max I assume you’re a 1999 baby?

[modest steppe]

so it was always possible, got it

2000

[dusty pollen]

oh, same lmao

[red crest]

as they should

[rain apex]

I am immune to spoilers cus smol chu would go look shit up on wikia before watching anything

[dusty pollen]

🤝

[little furnace]

And JKR killed my respect.

[rain apex]

Also look kat

[modest steppe]

who doesn't know that spoiler

[rain apex]

He is a grumpler

[modest steppe]

kitty

looks grumpler

[dusty pollen]

he’s so good

[modest steppe]

didnt u say he was on a diet

[rain apex]

Yes

[modest steppe]

allowed to grump

[devout vault]

(I have been smuggled some pictures of this cat already)

[red crest]

iro why are you so young

[fleet wren]

I'm want of those people who try to go in every media as spoiler free as possible before inevitably folding and stumbling across spoilers when trying to look for discussions/fanworks while 70% of the way through

[modest steppe]

well, i assume he was born at some point

[red crest]

weird thing to assume about someone

[modest steppe]

were u not born button

[red crest]

wouldn't you like to know

[little furnace]

Button was created to punish humanity.

[modest steppe]

i would, like to know

[fleet wren]

we were all born last thursday

[devout vault]

On a scale of cool to horrifying, how much do the residents of #programmers-off-topic hate the idea of using these types of things

[red crest]

thought you said frameworks here and was wondering what spoilers you got from Stardew modding

[modest steppe]

cribs are cursed is the spoiler

[red crest]

with prices these days, sure why the hell not

[devout vault]

...all of them?

Nexus is like half spoilers on a good day it feels like

[modest steppe]

the secret is called change how the game does a thing

[red crest]

frameworks though?

[fleet wren]

not frameworks but I got spoiled of ||santa grabbing cookies and milk|| from source code diving

[red crest]

I don't think BETAS has spoiled anything...

[devout vault]

Read spacecore docs, discover the forge.

[modest steppe]

how to define the world spoil

[devout vault]

.define spoil

[heavy dagger]

verb: to damage seriously : ruin

[devout vault]

Like that

[red crest]

to be fair in the context of selphs message the spoilers would be for unrelated media

[modest steppe]

well frameworks don't damage stuff

i hope

[devout vault]

anyways brb i hungy need snac

[red crest]

I'm gonna hide a Pluribus spoiler in the next BETAS update

[modest steppe]

a what

[dusty pollen]

I’m not allowed to comment

[fleet wren]

Pluribus the new show on Apple TV

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by atravita as #6851 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452404629232025600)

[modest steppe]

did u guys know apple called their ai apple intelligance so their ai is called ai

thought that was very stupid

[dusty pollen]

relativity

[modest steppe]

timey-wimey stuff

how dated is this reference

[red crest]

bea do you know when Doctor who started

[modest steppe]

it old

[terse galleon]

has it really been 17 years oml

[modest steppe]

never assume i know times for anything

[dusty pollen]

is a random programming shapeless void not allowed to be young now

[red crest]

No

[dusty pollen]

sure! and then another thirtyish years

[modest steppe]

u must be timeless aswell

Doctor Who is a British science fiction television series broadcast by the BBC since 1963.

-does math-

[dusty pollen]

sorry, closer to another fortyish years

[red crest]

apology not accepted

[modest steppe]

62 years!

[terse galleon]

i meant since wibbly wobbly time wimey stuff lol

[dusty pollen]

button if I’m so young is this child abuse

[terse galleon]

20 years since nuwho aired

[modest steppe]

is button ur gurdian

[red crest]

you're not a child you're just too young

[devout vault]

How young is too young

[dusty pollen]

boo

[little furnace]

Yes

[modest steppe]

wait iro so ur 24?

[steel kraken]

To be fair it's not 60 years continuously as iirc there was a decade or two between oldwho ending and newwho starting

[dusty pollen]

closer to four, no?

[modest steppe]

am i also too young

[terse galleon]

oldwho went until like the 90s

[red crest]

That's true but you have to take into account the context of Bea first thinking the modernish Charlie's Angels was the star and then also thinking the modern mission impossibles were the start

[terse galleon]

yes, whereas i, who turned 26 a week ago, am wise and aged

[modest steppe]

i don't have a perception of time

[red crest]

so the doctor who thing is just another data point against Bea media knowledge

[lethal walrus]

i thought ddr4 was still reasonably priced? so you could just buy desktop ddr4

[red crest]

/lh

[dusty pollen]

oh, damn

bet they released like ten whole episodes in that time

[modest steppe]

Bea is also a timey wimey creachur

as in i don't fucking know what time anything was

[cinder karma]

I'm so ancient the aarp advertises to me

What's doctor who

[dusty pollen]

I’m 25 I just thought you said you were a baby when 2000 started lmao

[red crest]

can't answer this or people might start to surmise what my age is

[modest steppe]

i was in fact born in 2000

november

[devout vault]

Well the video I watched was about DDR5 ones, but that was the first picture of a product I found on google

[dusty pollen]

either 7 or 73

[modest steppe]

also 25 but only been for a few

[steel kraken]

I'm old enough to have used physical versions of the save button

[little furnace]

42, that is always the correct answer.

[devout vault]

How does bea media knowledge rank against atra media knowledge

[dusty pollen]

oh then I am actually older than you bea, just only by a few months

[modest steppe]

u think i am allowed to rank against atra?

[red crest]

Bea ranks worse because I think atra just pretends to not know things

[fleet wren]

they're "reasonably" priced in the sense that they are already so cheap a 200% bump only brings a 16GB stick to 180 bucks

[modest steppe]

bea is just a baby

[red crest]

Exhibit a, asking what doctor who is when it's older than them

[devout vault]

A show older than (most likely) everyone in this chat

[modest steppe]

there any 63 year olds in here

[devout vault]

63 or above*

[lethal walrus]

ah

[lethal walrus]

very cheap

[devout vault]

"only"

[dusty pollen]

atra also regularly asks what video games are and I know for a fact they own at least one

[lethal walrus]

i think atra just gets lucky with their stardew mods working

[modest steppe]

they've talked about mroe than one at least

[lethal walrus]

and they have never actually tested them

[modest steppe]

i swear i saw atra talk about video games plural once

[dusty pollen]

anyway gtg my brain is stabbing me right above the eye

[modest steppe]

feel better soon iro

[dusty pollen]

[modest steppe]

🩷

[steel kraken]

They have stardew and the bean knitting phone app which I'm choosing to call a game

[devout vault]

Depending on your definition of game, more than one!

[dusty pollen]

ner shmini sameach btw

[devout vault]

(the focus apps on atra's phone)

[dusty pollen]

and meow tower!

[modest steppe]

our candles are cursed

[cinder karma]

Casey can confirm exactly how many games I have on steam

[modest steppe]

oh? insider atra knowlege

[rain apex]

like 2 right

[modest steppe]

casey spill the bean(s)

the people yearn for atra lore

[devout vault]

I did check and almost said that, but your profile did not say plural and when I clicked the list it showed none, so I wans't sure how accurate it was

[modest steppe]

this info doesn't add up

[devout vault]

Also happy -getting-close-to-a-year-offline-steam, atra

[cinder karma]

How do you know that?

[modest steppe]

digital stalking

/j

[steel kraken]

Offline duration shows up in the steam friends list

[cinder karma]

Huh, cool!

[modest steppe]

ah, friendship

[devout vault]

Of course it doesn't count if you're invisible, I think

[modest steppe]

secret to all things

[cinder karma]

Now I must make that number bigger

[modest steppe]

that's easy

don't open steam

[devout vault]

As long as you're willing to reset it when I need stardew3d MP test

(even if it's just testing "can a vanilla player play with a 3d one")

[cinder karma]

Same!

[modest steppe]

im a bit confused as to what that means

physical versions??

[cinder karma]

Floppy disks, bea

[devout vault]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[modest steppe]

OHHH

[steel kraken]

[modest steppe]

i know what those are

[devout vault]

(I have not used them)

Oh

I at least knew what they were and was like "even people here don't all know what one is???"

[modest steppe]

i mean, they're kind more of a symbol now

when were they used

[steel kraken]

I deliberately worded it about the save button to help call out the young people easier

[dusty pollen]

but did you guys use floppy disks back when they were actually floppy

[modest steppe]

iro no

[terse galleon]

"back in my day these were like JELLY"

[modest steppe]

physical save button made me more confused than floppy disk ngl

[steel kraken]

I only used them in their well caged variants

[cinder karma]

My dad did

[modest steppe]

we still have some tapes laying around

do people still use discs

there's def a floppy disk somewhere in the shed

my dad never throws anything away

[cinder karma]

Anyways as far as video games go here is meow tower

[steel kraken]

Tape is still widely used.
Floppy disk's less so

[modest steppe]

really? damn

[devout vault]

Game is calling you out for favoritism

(I don't know what the gameplay is, is it another focus app?)

[steel kraken]

Magnetic tape is useful for long term archival stuff for enterprises

[modest steppe]

let ace be free

[dusty pollen]

tape is good for archival and sometimes analogue data

[modest steppe]

fascinating

[dusty pollen]

(both require specific types of tape. some tape isn’t good for either)

[cinder karma]

Nonograms

[modest steppe]

at some point ill understand what some words mean

not today

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by kittycatcasey as #6852 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452409735293833347)

[steel kraken]

I like nonograms (picross) but don't like mobile games

[terse galleon]

nongrams are those black and white tile puzzles where you fill in the squares

[modest steppe]

i see

[steel kraken]

I only got into them from the stardew discord event last year

[devout vault]

Given what some people call their grandmothers (or some other older-family-member?), I'm choosing to believe this means the game is about telegrams via grandmas

[modest steppe]

the only mobile game i play is coloring by number

[steel kraken]

Where there were escalating difficulties of puzzles and a bonus extra hard one at the end which took a week

[dusty pollen]

meow tower is pretty basic tbh, most mobile nonogram games are harder

[steel kraken]

Its been long enough I might be able to just enjoy that puzzle again and not remember it

[modest steppe]

puzzles....

people r good at those, i heard

im only good at the ones where u use small piece to make bigger piece

[steel kraken]

Was there an archive of the hatmouse picross puzzles

[modest steppe]

juni's would know id imagine

[little furnace]

Discs is easy. Anyone here uses minidiscs?

[devout vault]

The humble gamecube enjoyers

(ie. @pliant snow )

(I'm perfectly happy with emulating, so I don't count)

[pliant snow]

That's a miniDVD, not a minidisc

[devout vault]

It's a disc, and it's mini

Therefore, minidisc

[pliant snow]

minidisc was a CD competitor that Sony put out

I still have a minidisc deck I use sometimes

[steel kraken]

I do still have an Xbox 360 and WiiU cabled up though both were DVD and not minidisk

[modest steppe]

i too got an xbox 360

disc

[little furnace]

Less of a competitor and more of a cassette-like thingy but for CDs.

[cinder karma]

I too can spin in a circle

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by kittycatcasey as #6853 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452413287210684479)

[modest steppe]

[devout vault]

Okay spenny

[pliant snow]

minidiscs were great

they were little

[devout vault]

[pliant snow]

you could rewrite to them

they should show song titles, you could rearrange songs without reburning them

they came in fun colors

[modest steppe]

what does burning discs mean again

[little furnace]

Data -> Disc

[modest steppe]

i c i c

[cinder karma]

No you set the disk literally on fire

Dont listen to the liars

[modest steppe]

put it on the grill

[pliant snow]

the youth have forgotten the ancient ways

[modest steppe]

my dad was the one burning discs, i just played my PSP

lego star wars goes brrrr

[heavy dagger]

New quote added by kittycatcasey as #6854 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1452413772995104979)

[cinder karma]

What's a psp

Is that something you say to a cat

[devout vault]

Yes.

[modest steppe]

no it was a handheld

[devout vault]

No atra is right it's the cat noise

Don't listen to their lies

[pliant snow]

it was a device you bought that only played crisis core

[modest steppe]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable

i had a this

[pliant snow]

and patapon

[little furnace]

The big issue was that the general public absolutely had no use for minidiscs. Making new vinyl records was not something everyone could do, so the cassette was popular to share music. But you could easily burn a CD, so why get a minidisc for sharing a new album with your friends?

[pliant snow]

the general public were fools, they were rad

[modest steppe]

literally

[little furnace]

Sorry, slow at typing and didn't realize the topic has moved on.

[modest steppe]

some of em were eradiated

but yes while some of you might have had a,,, nintetdo handheld i had a playstation portable

[devout vault]

I can't find it now but I saw a video once of someone who made it a vr headset

[little furnace]

No arguments here. We even had a player in our car. In fact, it could only play minidiscs, no CDs or cassettes.

[pliant snow]

who wouldn't want this

[modest steppe]

pretty color

[little furnace]

It was a bit finicky to label them.

[modest steppe]

but they looked nice

[pliant snow]

But yeah, I have a minidisc deck and a minidisc walkman somewhere

[modest steppe]

i honestly forgot how games worked in the psp

[little furnace]

Bonding over minidiscs was not on my bingo card.

[cinder karma]

It lasted until 2013?

[pliant snow]

the psp had something similar, called UMD, you would open up a slot in the back and put the disc in

[cinder karma]

I have no idea what a minidisc was

[pliant snow]

they were popular in japan, kinda sold okay in europe, and no one heard of them in north america

[modest steppe]

except me and my brother

[little furnace]

Sony wanted to make something like a cassette but for CDs instead of vinyl.

[modest steppe]

The PSP had multiple versions over its initial release, including the PSP Street and the PSP Go.

PSP Go?? it was a portable already

[safe dragon]

PSP global offensive

[pliant snow]

PSP Go was the one with the slide out gamepad

[cinder karma]

Tbh I also dont really know what Sony does

Other than of course

Kpop Demon Hunters

[modest steppe]

sony copies everyone else

[safe dragon]

I don't think I've ever seen the mini disc in anythign I've ever used other than the PSP

[pliant snow]

Sony used to make literally everything

[steel kraken]

like many japanese companies, do everything

[modest steppe]

throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks

[steel kraken]

yamaha will make you a piano and also a motorbike

[modest steppe]

their old commercials were, a trip

[devout vault]

did they make my crippling addiction to choccy milk

[pliant snow]

yes, and then a more compact version a few years later

[modest steppe]

no thats just cause choccy milk is so fucking good

[devout vault]

...how does that become more compact

[devout vault]

I mean yes

[pliant snow]

their engineers found a way

[devout vault]

How is it any different though

More compact how

[safe dragon]

"how do we make it smaller" the one question motivating engineers worldwide

[modest steppe]

yes but then backwards with phones

how do we make it bigger and also weird

[devout vault]

I dunno the people who have to deal with quantum tunneling in itty bitty circuits probably hate that mantra

[safe dragon]

that's just them being punished for their own hubris

they went too small

[devout vault]

Phone size innovation is just a sine wave, and the average person simply has too small of a memory to notice or remember

[steel kraken]

the fun list is Mitsubishi who will do ACs, elevators, rockets, tanks, printers and cars

[pliant snow]

my favorite subreddit is the one where they just post old sony products

[devout vault]

Printers? Wow, they really are evil

[modest steppe]

Mistubishi printer

[modest steppe]

dunno i just hate it

[safe dragon]

yamaha doin motorcyles and musical instruments

[modest steppe]

im a hater

[little furnace]

And plastic. They are the biggest producer of raw plastic in the world.

[devout vault]

But what if I want a musical motorcycle

Hook up a harmonica to the exhaust

[modest steppe]

yamaha branded explosion

[safe dragon]

a trumpet exhaust

[steel kraken]

looks like mitsubishi started getting out of the (industrial) printing business last year

[cinder karma]

Doesn't Mitsubishi do motorcycles

[modest steppe]

well yes but those are vehicle

[cinder karma]

Also piano

[modest steppe]

that is not a vehicle

well if it has wheels

[little furnace]

Watch me drive a piano

[safe dragon]

piano and motorcycles is yamaha I don't think mitsubishi does pianos

[modest steppe]

mayo is an instrument, piano is a vehicle

[modest steppe]

well they should

[safe dragon]

an instrument of war

[devout vault]

Presented with no context

[steel kraken]

mitsubishi does rockets instead of pianos

[modest steppe]

[hisses]

but is one of them subway surfers

[devout vault]

no

[little furnace]

All three are Tetris.

[devout vault]

Wait, you almost tricked me into giving context when I said presented with no context

[modest steppe]

so close

[cinder karma]

Do any of them involve Lisa teaching me Japanese

[pliant snow]

simpson?

[modest steppe]

this entire convo is a trainwreck

[devout vault]

That's just this channel

On a good day

[little furnace]

Do Mitsubishi make trains?

[modest steppe]

what a wonderful experience

i don't know

do people make trains anymore

[cinder karma]

(Reference is the LISA song Rockstar)

[little furnace]

Never heard of her or the song.

[cinder karma]

China makes so many trains

[modest steppe]

thats cool

[little furnace]

To be fair, China makes almost everything. Everything I own has "Made in China" somewhere.

[modest steppe]

wtf are these tags

[cinder karma]

Look I'm very dumb and also the current interest is kpop

[devout vault]

Yeah that last one really needs to go

[safe dragon]

yeah the rustaceans aren't lost

they very much know where they are

[devout vault]

That is NOT what I meant, and you know it

[rain apex]

crab house now

[safe dragon]

#rustaceans

[rain apex]

if seb is already basement

r we 1 floor beneath him

[cinder karma]

Yes

[safe dragon]

B2F

[cinder karma]

Secretly chue this is chongqing

We are floor b25f on this side but if you walk over there we are on the ground floor

[modest steppe]

that sounds like a good plot for a liminal horror story

[cinder karma]

It's just a mountain city bea

[modest steppe]

i understand nothing

[little furnace]

You just need to look at paintings of M. C. Escher.

[modest steppe]

no im good

been to my school when it was late once, enough liminal horror for life

[cinder karma]

I recommend sleeping on the couch in the girl's bathroom in building 14

[modest steppe]

atra im scared

thats so specific

[little furnace]

Where is building 14?

[modest steppe]

are there usually couches in girls bathrooms

[little furnace]

There always are. Why do you think girls always go together?

[modest steppe]

what

they dont

[devout vault]

Because of the secret w- wait I can't talk about that here

[modest steppe]

????

[little furnace]

You're right, I almost spilled the beans. Sorry.

[modest steppe]

this channel should be called horror-off-topic

are ya'll just cryptids living in a mirror worlds where things are slightly different

[little furnace]

Have you never been curious about what's inside a girls bathroom? Have you never been drawn to that forbidden door, almost like a voice urges you to enter?

[modest steppe]

...im a fem

[cinder karma]

Yes

[modest steppe]

ive been there and we don't have couches

[devout vault]

Not all bathrooms are equal

[steel kraken]

based on the always long lines, im assuming its just a single stall in there

[modest steppe]

even if there's 10, there's gonna be a line

[devout vault]

Nah the arcade machine is just really popular

[modest steppe]

don't ask why, it just how it is

one of the mysteries of life

the real question is how do boys do it so fast

[steel kraken]

urinals are much more space efficient

[modest steppe]

right, urinals

just pee in a public room

[little furnace]

Sowwy then. I got too much into it to think.

[modest steppe]

oh its fine

bathrooms are weird

[little furnace]

Exactly. Why use them if bushes exist?

[cinder karma]

I see your weird and raise you squatting toilets

[modest steppe]

that's jsut a crime

one time in italy we paid to use the bathroom and guess what it was squatting toilets

at that point just dig a hole

[cinder karma]

Anyways there is a shower in thr bathroom of the basement of the chemistry building

[modest steppe]

chemistry buildings are required to have showers no?

or do u mean like, a regular shower

[devout vault]

why are my youtube subtitles transparent

[modest steppe]

that, is the preview

but u can just change it

[devout vault]

This is the full page of the video

I tried toggling the captions

[modest steppe]

yeah but when u preview subtitles they look like this

weird

youtube is just breaking itself

[cinder karma]

Yeah a regular shower

[devout vault]

I'm asking what changed, this is nothing new

[modest steppe]

mine are that way too now

i don't know why they did this

[devout vault]

They aren't like that in chrome

[modest steppe]

is this a firefox specific thing

they put font opacity on 25%

i guess fuck u if u can't see well

[little furnace]

The new Mozilla AI decided that this is better.

[modest steppe]

the ai doesn't have eyes

[devout vault]

I'm also thinking this is on google not firefox 😛

[modest steppe]

than why not on chrome

[little furnace]

To sabotage Firefox, maybe? Though at this point that feels more effort than it's worth.

[devout vault]

Because they didn't test with firefox

And/or that, but yeah why would they care at this point

...besides that it still supports the better adblockers, I guess?

[modest steppe]

yeah

Ghostery my beloved

[little furnace]

Systemwide adblocking for the win.

But Google also killed support for the Dreamcast browser recently, so it might really be just them changing stuff and not testing on other browsers.

[modest steppe]

not caring is google at this point

[little furnace]

That's why we need an independent OS for phones.

[cinder karma]

Isn't the dream cast like

1990

[little furnace]

atra knows about the Dreamcast.
One more for the profiling.

[little furnace]

atra doesn't know about the release year.
Another one for the profiling.

1998. They wanted to compete with the Playstation that ruined the Saturn.

... Discord, what is this?

This new?

• Test
  Test

Huh.

[cinder karma]

XD

What's a saturn

[modest steppe]

not new btw

markdown

- hate

[little furnace]

A Roman god. Zeus made it swallow a Playstation.

[modest steppe]

this checks out

[cinder karma]

Oh I thought it was a planet

What's a Playstation

[modest steppe]

whats the nintendo console called

[little furnace]

But Discord didn't support that until recently, I think. Discord has a weird version of Markdown.

[modest steppe]

no its pretty old

[cinder karma]

I basically only know that you can

1. Install Linux on a Playstation 3
2. Buy a Playstation camera during the pandemic if you couldn't get a normal one for your video calls

[modest steppe]

unless ur on mobile and than all hell is loose

[devout vault]

The station you play at, it's pretty self explanatory

[cinder karma]

Ooh does it have airflow

[frosty echo]

Try pressing o?

[devout vault]

"can" implies it's still possible

Does atra know about an upcoming pandemic and isn't worrying us

[little furnace]

I'm currently on mobile, yeah. It's almost midnight.

[devout vault]

Huh, didn't know that was a keybind. Thank you!

[modest steppe]

mobile discord is running on duct tape, hopes and dreams

[frosty echo]

Pressing ? shows them all

[cinder karma]

Just an epidemic of kpop posing

[little furnace]

I don't use Revenge, because of that my Discord doesn't additionally run on mods.

[modest steppe]

this, is tech a rule break

i also don't use modded discord

[little furnace]

fixed

Ty

[modest steppe]

we're all discord law abiding citizens

[little furnace]

Absolutely. Bow to the Discord overlords.

[cinder karma]

All the paper work will be filed on time

[modest steppe]

heck yeah kick that papers ass

[cinder karma]

9 btw

[safe dragon]

what on earth is mixed tape

also 9 btw

googling mixed tape got me absolutely nothing other than mix tapes which are most certainly not solely an old thing

[frosty echo]

Actual tapes may be?

[little furnace]

A mix tape but it's really a tape.

[modest steppe]

3

[safe dragon]

I guess they do just mean old-school mixtapes on actual tape

idk why they're calling it mixed tape

that returns no results

[frosty echo]

Also "AOL ADDRESS"

[modest steppe]

isnt it mix tape

[little furnace]

7 if I don't count edge cases.

[modest steppe]

wait im bad at counting

[safe dragon]

AOL I am locked out of by not being american

[frosty echo]

Nah, I had that for my ISP at one point and I'm not

[little furnace]

ICQ counts as well.

[modest steppe]

how to use cursive

[little furnace]

We learned cursive in school.

And had a dictionary in Latin.

[modest steppe]

u did

i have 6 i think

[safe dragon]

you've never used a dictionary?

[modest steppe]

oh wait, i have

also 7

[safe dragon]

for me it's rotary phones, encyclopedia, floppy disks, cursive, dictionary, vcr, paper map, postcard and phone book

[modest steppe]

never used a phone book

[safe dragon]

never used dial up because we could leech of our neighbor's fancy business internet connection

[modest steppe]

dial up was an experience

[safe dragon]

didn't have a walkman, did have an mp3 player

[modest steppe]

oh wait are those not the same

bump me down to 6

[safe dragon]

a walkman uses cassettes

[modest steppe]

yeah never used those

my mp3 player is still in my room somewhere

[cinder karma]

No check books???

[rotund trellis]

Ello!!

[cinder karma]

Hi!

[little furnace]

Do professional film cameras count or does it have to be these 90s film cameras?

[red crest]

id have 16 points from that image

[safe dragon]

I'm wondering if I've used a film camera honestly. I had those disposable cameras as a kid with a limited number of photos you could take and then you had to send it somewhere to get yoru photos. That was probably tape I just had no idea

you had to spin a little wheel

to get to the next photo

[modest steppe]

i have seen a check book

[safe dragon]

peak

[cinder karma]

That's film yeah

[safe dragon]

ok 10

idk what a checkbook is

[modest steppe]

it says used not like, seen in real life

[red crest]

still 16 for me

[safe dragon]

checks have been effectively considered an unrecognized disallowed form of payment here for almost as long as I've been alive

[little furnace]

Oh, that's what they mean by "film". I was thinking of "this is film school and these are our cameras". Bump me down to 6.

[cinder karma]

https://share.google/FfvWbDR0fYyVxQLoo

[safe dragon]

until a few years ago we still had international checks to deal with americans and the french

but that disappeared too

[modest steppe]

yeah my parents had these

[cinder karma]

Jesus

When I got this job I brought a voided check to set up direct deposit

[modest steppe]

never used a fax machine but my old workplace had one

[safe dragon]

fax has been dead for a long time here as far as I know beyond the medical industry

[modest steppe]

it was hopital

so yeah

[safe dragon]

it's also dead in the medical industry by now but it lasted longer there

[little furnace]

We need faxing for our public digital infrastructure (I'm German).

[cyan shadow]

Government probably has them lurking in the offices somewhere

[modest steppe]

idk there's fax machines everywhere here

[cyan shadow]

Maybe some quaint municipalities have them?

[safe dragon]

maybe?

[modest steppe]

not saying its used all the time but they exist

[little furnace]

Doesn't every printer have some kind of faxing?

[modest steppe]

yeah

[safe dragon]

the netherlands tends to be quite quick to adopt technological advancements

[cyan shadow]

Yep

[modest steppe]

so there is a system that does everytime using computer so

the fax machines are just a relic

does get used sometimes

very loud

[cinder karma]

The last time I needed a fax machine, I gave up and drove my documents over and handed them in person

[cyan shadow]

Do they?
I haven't seen fax abilities on a printer maybe ever

[safe dragon]

I'm glad that one of the biggest issues with fax machiens is how extremely unsafe they are... so what do we still use them for? government documents and medical information

[modest steppe]

the one in the secretary's office had a fax option

[little furnace]

All printers that support scanning that are sold here have that.

[modest steppe]

ur important medical info? beeping

tbh some people do in fact call hospitals and ask for a fax

[safe dragon]

I think my mom's modern printer still supports fax but I could not tell you how to use it

[cyan shadow]

I wouldn't know anyway, we haven't ever had to fax anything

[modest steppe]

"i want it in fax"
me: ???

why

[little furnace]

One of the biggest issues with SMS texts is how unsafe they are. So what do we use them still for? Banking security codes.

[modest steppe]

sending a fax is using dark magic

[cyan shadow]

Oh crumble speaking of old tech

[little furnace]

Faxing is like scanning, sending a mail and printing all in one. It's really weird if you think about it.

[safe dragon]

back when I was a kid we did 2fa for banking via a physical sheet of "TAN" codes you'd be sent by mail and then if you tried to do an online transaction you'd be told to enter the number with id 461 or and you'd look at your tan code sheet and find the code

[modest steppe]

and, super hecking slow

[safe dragon]

when you ran out of codes on your tan code sheet you'd request a new one

[cyan shadow]

Is it an issue if I don't have an e-dentifier from my bank

[modest steppe]

dude on phone: i didn't get it yet
me: right, lemme just, summon satan to make it faster

[cyan shadow]

They never bothered sending me one

[little furnace]

We have a generator for that. You put your card into it, type the number (modern ones support scanning blinking lights or even QR codes) and it will generate the code.

[safe dragon]

I don't think banks here ever did bank security codes via sms. We went from the tan code sheets to a funky little 2fa devices

and then phones

[devout vault]

I use a Dictionary basically everytime I code in C#

[modest steppe]

idont think thats the one they mean

[cinder karma]

USB Security Key https://share.google/Vhzj4jiAxx8wpUxGn

Fun fact

[modest steppe]

why would i trust this

[little furnace]

Here some judges tried to argue that phone apps are less secure than SMS. I think higher courts shot that down, but still...

[sand frost]

Last time I needed a fax was to send medical docs in when I was in college, I think

[safe dragon]

if someone ever compromises atra's account I will unwittingly click one of their damn google share links to a virus

[sand frost]

I had my dad try to fax from work but actually they didn’t have any anymore

I forget what we did in the end

Probably email or something

[modest steppe]

yeah, like normal people

[cyan shadow]

I emailed my medical docs whenever I needed to submit an attendance claim

[modest steppe]

the thing about hopital and replacing stuff for new systems is that it doesn't happen

[safe dragon]

nowadays here as far as I can tell the whole dutch medical system seems to be connected and they can just request your medical info from other doctors you've been to?

[cyan shadow]

Giving that uni's administration a fax machine would hospitalize the entire student population from stress within a few hours

[modest steppe]

computers be running windows XP

[cinder karma]

Clean link https://www.bankofamerica.com/security-center/online-mobile-banking-privacy/usb-security-key/

[safe dragon]

like I'd never have to send my medical info to a new general practicioner I'd just need to give approval for them to go get it

[modest steppe]

this was a thing i see

[sand frost]

I think the US also does this but it’s not as smooth a system behind the scenes I assume

My doctors all definitely can request old medical records

[modest steppe]

u can also do that, no?

[cyan shadow]

"FAX THE DOCUMENTS! It matters not that you live in a village with no fax machines, find a way to get the family insert livestock of choice here to spit one out!"

My medical records are uh

Paper

[modest steppe]

see, if its a goat

ur not getting that fax

[cyan shadow]

My vaccine record is a whole ass booklet

[modest steppe]

ohhh mine too

and the school nurse signed it <3

[cyan shadow]

My surgery papers from 2024 live in a plastic file on my shelf

[cinder karma]

The red cross has a more accurate view of my health than anyone else

Including me

[modest steppe]

i don't know if they digitized this data anywhere, like i know we stopped doing the booklets now

[cyan shadow]

And now I just don't have a gp so I have no medical records here either

[sand frost]

The Red Cross doesn’t know shit about my allergies so they almost certainly don’t for me

They do know a heck of a lot about my blood pressure and hemoglobin

[cyan shadow]

I'm about to go back home and I'll get paper again from the dentist

[safe dragon]

the end game boss of trying to find any GP in this country that is not full and is willing to accept patients with your postcode

I'm still with my GP in my home town and I have not lived there in 10 years

[modest steppe]

my end game is finding a GP who will listen to my medical issues and do something

[cyan shadow]

And that is willing to put up with student/zoekjaar insurance

[safe dragon]

oh a bonus

[cyan shadow]

And... Also the bit about being listened to

[safe dragon]

gotta gamble for that one

[modest steppe]

wild west when it comes to that

had female doctors tell me im just, being hysterical

like what team are u on </3

[safe dragon]

especially if you're a woman then you need better luck cause for some reason even in 2025 doctors still don't seem to take women as seriously when it comes to medical problems

[modest steppe]

this includes women doctors

[safe dragon]

it does

[little furnace]

A GP is the doctor who does doctor stuff when you aren't feeling well, right?

[cyan shadow]

Some things, contrary to popular prescription, require more than 500mg of paracetamol

[cyan shadow]

Yee

[modest steppe]

i wish that fixed most things

[cyan shadow]

This won't even stop my period cramps

[safe dragon]

yeah a general practitioner. You go to em when you have a problem and they'll probably refer you to a specialist if they believe you and it's not just a very simple problem

[little furnace]

Have you tried... taking two of them? (/s)

[modest steppe]

atleast my OBGYN listens to me

[cyan shadow]

Took me five gynacs to find one that recognized cramps are a real thing

[safe dragon]

in the netherlands you generally have to get a referral from a GP to get your medical fees covered by insurance at a specialist

[modest steppe]

insurance is a pain in the ass

even with a refferal

[modest steppe]

im so sorry, that's awful

[safe dragon]

gynaecologist discovers PCOS 30 years into their career colorized

[modest steppe]

[cyan shadow]

I'm 1.6m and under 55 kilos, more than 600mg of paracetamol on its own sends me on a one way trip to stomach ouchy land

I take a paracetamol and an ibuprofen instead, or a combo pill with both at a set ratio

[modest steppe]

you'd think someone that has learned about female anatomy would, i don't know, know about these things

[little furnace]

Periods are kind of absurd. Like, the womb wants you to have a baby, and prepares everything without your input, and if you don't get a baby asap, it punishes you with unbearable pain.

Like, that almost sounds like patriarchy in a nutshell.

[safe dragon]

this is basically blasphemy here you can't just say such things

[cyan shadow]

My current one is great!

[safe dragon]

paracetamol fixes all

[modest steppe]

from what i heard, having a baby is also a punishment

[cyan shadow]

It won't fix the doctor's attitude

[safe dragon]

ibuprofen if you're basically on your death bed

[modest steppe]

i wish hitting the doctor on the head would help

[cyan shadow]

I'm bedridden on my period these days, so that sounds about right

[little furnace]

True. What side are wombs even on?

[modest steppe]

there's a reason religions jewish man have a prayer that is literally "thank god i wasn't born a woman"

y'know, the reason is sexism but i feel the sentiment

[cyan shadow]

On the side of angry stomachs

[modest steppe]

u can have a front or back womb, from what i know

one of those is bad

[cyan shadow]

I'll be going to the doc again about this, the surgery was supposed to fix this

[safe dragon]

good luck

[cyan shadow]

And it did, until the pill made me miserable

[modest steppe]

i hope they figure it out!

eugh, the pill

[cyan shadow]

I'm going home for this, so I will take this luck and apply it to the hour long drive to the hospital

[modest steppe]

who would win, small pill with hormones or me

[cyan shadow]

I'm gonna try the shot this time, my aunt was on it for many years with great success

[modest steppe]

i believe

[cyan shadow]

Idk we'll see

Depend a bit on me and also on what the doc says

[modest steppe]

women's health is a bit, shit is most of the world isnt it

[cyan shadow]

(We do not, in fact, leave the city in this one hour)

Bangalore traffic istg

I'll be packing sandwiches

Catch me eating a ham kaas while stuck in traffic

[modest steppe]

sammich good

[cyan shadow]

People on the highways here would be less angry in traffic jams if they packed a snack

[modest steppe]

[cyan shadow]

By here I mean in the Netherlands this time

[modest steppe]

if ur feeling angry have a snack