you can select multiple & do the 50/50 thing instead of one folder at a time, that's the best I've got 
#programmers-off-topic
tranquil grove
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I'm already up to 422 GB free thanks to deleting some obvious (in hindsight) offenders (skyrim modlists I downloaded to try but never played much, minecraft Distant Horizons data for stuff I don't even play anymore, etc.)
I could stop pretending I'll actually play BG3. That would save 160 GB
(Most games I put on my D: drive, but ones that need an SSD for performance can't really go there 😛 )
tranquil grove
oh, same hat, that's 144gb 
I'm too slow to coop a tactics game & I've still only done the tutorial solo
devout vault
oh, same hat, that's 144gb <:SDVpuffersquint:646112694419718174>
I'm too slow t...
Mines 158 GB, but I tried to pretend that mods would get me to actually play, so that's probably why
I got to the grove
So.... not remotely far at all
tranquil grove
I'll probably get to poking around in those if/when I get the motivation, yeah
coop friend & I mostly did the swamp quest(s) for several hours & didn't progress otherwise
& got into the grove and they talked to a cat? I think?
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CAT
tranquil grove
lots of mental investment needed to get that rolling again
but yeah, bard/druid animal talk power seems fun 
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...do they intentionally throttle it????
(It was still done in like 15 seconds, I was just surprised when that popped up)
uh
why do I have to sign in to uninstall properly
I knew adobe was bad, but that bad????
red crest
WizTree is great and fast as hell
(and has nothing important or substantial behind a paywall/subscription/license)
devout vault
Well I've got 850 GB free now
Another big chunk was from when I tried Helldivers 2 with my brothers
red crest
helldivers got shrunk down to like 20gb just last week
prisma flume
well sort of, there's a beta branch for it
devout vault
"Last played: March 8, 2024"
red crest
how is that sort of. can it or can it not now only take up 20gb
devout vault
It would be nice if more of the big modern games were happy on a harddrive rather than an SSD
prisma flume
it's in testing and not necessarily the final product
red crest
Disk 0... dont even name your drives...
red crest
it's in testing and not necessarily the final product
but it is 20gb
it did get shronk
prisma flume
that's like saying is or is not sdv 1.6.16 out. it's being worked on
devout vault
Disk 0... dont even name your drives...
This is a prebuilt
I should've just done another SSD I suppose
red crest
i switched to the beta branch and my helldivers got shrunk down to like 20gb just last week
prisma flume
it's yet to be seen if they just pull a ready-or-not and completely scuff it in the name of compression
red crest
this is a fully true statement
devout vault
But back then I wasn't as aware of all the games that take up tons of space also demanding an SSD
red crest
tbh i thought helldivers was like. an outlier in catering to people using HDDs at this point
prisma flume
i'll believe it when it's the prod build 
it's hard to tell if games are duplicating assets or just that big these days
hell let loose is absolutely massive last i saw
but they changed studios entirely since then and they've done a whole stack of changes
red crest
steam says it only needs 60gb, does it have a bunch of DLCs or somethin
ive never heard of it
tranquil grove
steam and (regional) bandwidth upgrades kinda killed game devs' interest in compression
red crest
oh it has hella dlc
prisma flume
it's also one of those games that puts everything into a couple of huge pak files so even small updates take hours to patch
eh the dlc isn't that big, just skins
devout vault
steam and (regional) bandwidth upgrades kinda killed game devs' interest in comp...
.s/steam and (regional) bandwidth/technology/
.s/compression/optimization/
prisma flume
maybe HD textures and maps, but still just skins
tranquil grove
.s/steam and (regional) bandwidth/technology/
.s/compression/optimization/
I can't read regex or w/e so I stand by my wording 
devout vault
It's... sed? I think?
tranquil grove
squinting but yeah, reminded of games with mandatory dlss and such
prisma flume
ah?
red crest
apparently with all the DLCs and maps installed Ark Survival Evolved can get around 400gb in size, thats pretty fun and totally a good use of my drive space
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I mean, it's dinosaurs, so it gets a pass or it would if it was a better game cough
red crest
DCS World is 200gb as a base install
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(I'm just a hater, don't mind me)
prisma flume
well dcs is an outlier
red crest
yeah simulator games have a pass
prisma flume
simulator-level detailing is something else
tranquil grove
(I enjoyed ark more when we set the processing timers to like 50x speed)
(still not big on those team-pvp-oriented ones though)
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(Not even specifically Ark - it's just a perfect combination of stuff like "survival games can be fun but aren't my favorite" and "realistic graphics can be nice but aren't my favorite")
prisma flume
i'll never understand how people can play an open world survival crafting game even without a hundred other people to ruin your day
devout vault
It's the perfect combination of "this game might be good but it does everything in just the right way for me to not be interested"
prisma flume
but that's moaning for another day 🙂↕️
heavy daggerBOT
Title result: PixARK on Steam
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And people say its worse than Ark
tranquil grove
we only got like 2 sessions out of that one, but did enjoy it more
(pretty standard for random coop stuff anyway)
it was while they had halloween mode on, which did kinda overwhelm the normal mechanics
tranquil grove
attention span for survival varies pretty wildly, like most things
it seemed about as fleshed out as the main one
devout vault
A lot of the bad reviews seem to be about some seemingly unfair ways they do bans for the official servers... which I wouldn't play on, so I wouldn't care 😛
tranquil grove
yeah, sounds right for a pvp game
also ig my longest run with a survival thing on steam is ~87h in valheim
after deciding 300 hours in starbound isn't survival™ even if it has the mechanics
devout vault
It seems like most of the negative reviews come out to:
- buggy/unpolished (these seem to mostly be 2019ish)
- multiplayer woes
- people expecting the same thing as ark (for good reason, given the branding!) when it seems better to approach it as standalone
(One of the reviews even acknowledged that last one)
And if you exclude the early access period it goes from Mixed to Mostly Positive
(...which is somehow only a 5% difference...)
But if you go from 2024 and beyond only it goes down to Mixed again (64%, compared to the "all ratings" being 69%)
cinder karma
& got into the grove and they talked to a cat? I think?
Cat tax
Does the dino game give them feathers
cinder karma
(So far I've been asleep for approximately 23 out of thr last 25 hrs.)
What is this virus
Not covid
tranquil grove
and I think most were the plucked dino designs, but ark might've had some feather ones
cinder karma
You must go back to screenshot the car
Cat
I dont even know what game this is but
devout vault
Baldurs Gate 3
tranquil grove
might've been this one, via google
cinder karma
I want live updates on the debates on what pterodactyls could or could not fly
cinder karma
might've been this one, via google
Cutie
devout vault
BG3 does have many cats
cinder karma
Perfect game for you then
devout vault
This one I heard a lot about from a friend who was named "His Majesty"
The only BG3 controversy I can think of is the one where they changed him to be a fluffy cat instead
Before he was re-unfluffed
dusty pollen
why would they do this 
literally unplayable
tranquil grove
I want live updates on the debates on what pterodactyls could or could not fly
their archaeopteryx is goofy-looking but does have feathers, as do some of their newer dlc(?) land dinos
devout vault
why would they do this <:SDVpufferwaaah:982138774635020288> literally unplayable
I mean they did revert the change
tranquil grove
faded trans pride sky-chicken
devout vault
They did it because he was identical to another cat
cinder karma
Look if your gonna make a dino game
devout vault
After reverting it, they made the other cat have a different eye color (apparently)
devout vault
Path of Titans had flying dinoaurs with feathers
My older brother played that for a while
tranquil grove
not familiar with it, but that came up in a search for feathery dino games
and some of the newer jurassic parks, ig
supple ether
my only gripe with vs 2026 so far is that they changed ctrl+D from "duplicate line" to some kind of command modifier thing
devout vault
Is that new? I feel like I have to fix that every time I installed VS in the past
And vscode for example certainly doesn't have it as the default
supple ether
according to stackoverflow it's actually from vs '22
which I did not realize existed
I've been using '19
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which I did not realize existed
"smh do you live under a rock or am I old"
devout vault
I've been using '19
"...what???"
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Casey is this one friend shaped
At least from the thumbnail, yes
Maybe it’s just the angle but it’s face looks so small compared to its head
tranquil grove
yeah, that thumbnail shot's oddly squished, it looks pretty just-cat-shaped in the video & wiki photos
devout vault
The thumbnail there makes it look like the cats have a sixhead (we're skipping over fivehead entirely)
(My first thought for "big forehead" is always this show I really liked when I was younger. And I had never even noticed it until I saw someone joke about it online more recently, but now I can't unsee it.)
rain apex
6head...
wise galleon
Fuck netbeans
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hushed raven
I'm actually really liking intellij IDEs compared to VSCode, this may be where I make the switch from anything that isn't just json editing
lyric bloom
ooh?
hushed raven
I think the nicest little feature "hints" for methods, I haven't seen that replicated in vscode or in an extension, but as well and being very context aware across the project folder (with the AI stuff disabled) like alerting when filepaths are able to be shortened and autofilling html classes and ids in the css and js files, yet to see if that's able to be replicated across Go and JS though
lyric bloom
ah, yeah, they're good at that. I use PyCharm and does that as well
(granted, I use the AI stuff for autocomplete, which is the most I want it for since it's decent at noticing I'm typing in boilerplate)
hushed raven
certain things are a little confusing when coming from VSCode like the git panel, but it's easy enough to figure out, it's more featureful aswell which is nice
Oh the auto complete stuff I still enabled as it's run locally (at least it seems given my internet went out earlier) and it fills in what I was going to type anyway
I think it's AI anyway? it's only done inline stuff though so it could just be rules and context from other files
lyric bloom
considering it was able to rapidly predict from 'poke' that i'm creating a pokemon database i'm pretty sure at least some neural learning whent into it
crystal wren
I think it's AI anyway? it's only done inline stuff though so it could just be r...
If it's ever a full line or more, it's AI... and easy to disable, thankfully.
If it's less than a full line, it's probably just their ridiculously smart (and still sometimes slightly annoying) regular autocomplete.
safe dragon
which is also AI just from before it was marketable
crystal wren
Yeah, it's AI, just minus the gen.
hushed raven
Given its what I would've written in the line anyway and run locally that's fine by me, it has confused me when trying to enter another ID for instance but tab fills out the auto complete and not the selected ID from the context menu though, I wonder if it can make the drop down take presidence over the autocomplete
dusty pollen
If it's ever a full line or more, it's AI... and easy to disable, thankfully.
I...
fully local makes me think it’s not genai in the sense we typically think of 
steel kraken
vs was doing good autocomplete with its intellisense branding prior to the gpt revolutions
crystal wren
It's like IntelliCode. They're just... super micro models from my understanding?
Problem is it is tough to tell, because both of them just say AI/ML assisted... which could mean it's generative, or it could just be the traditional definition of AI.
dusty pollen
I guess it’s generative either way? to me the issues with modern genai are theft, unethical application, and environmental problems, and for a local code completion model I think the only concern would be that it’s pretrained using the larger genai models somehow so theft still figures in?
hushed raven
I'm fully up for ML if it's local and I provide the training data, at least then I can guarantee it's no more damaging than say gaming and that the input data isn't stolen
crystal wren
It just... all feels weird to me. Using sheer, absolute raw brute force compute to solve something that was never really a problem?
uncut seal
I'm fully up for ML if it's local and I provide the training data, at least then...
but that's never the case though? Companies are always pushing models trained on the biggest dataset they have to justify the Spendings™
except if you're making everything yourself, in which case it's kind of off topic
hushed raven
Oh I know, I wasn't talking about modern AI ML things, I still dislike them with a passion, I was thinking along the lines of before the AI boom, where gen AI wasn't a mainstream consumer thing and wasn't trained off stolen data, just ml algorithms primarily used for pattern recognition based of a dataset incredibly specific to the use case
uncut seal
my only reference is VSCode's intellisense, which is literally just a dictionary of language keywords and names you defined in the project
cinder karma
It just... all feels weird to me. Using sheer, absolute raw brute force compute ...
meirl
How are things
modest steppe
cinder karma
It is deeply unreasonable for colds to last more than 48 hrs
I'm filing a complaint
fleet wren
I got a cold last thursday
I'm still coughing even now
never delaying my flu shots again
safe dragon
here you basically just don't qualify for flu shots unless you have some other health issue that increases your risk factor
you'd have to pay for em
hushed raven
BOGOF flu shots, bargain
safe dragon
a coupon for what
sand frost
I think it was $5 off $20
At the cvs I got the shots at
We got some vitamins and such
cinder karma
I literally came home Friday, went to sleep at 7pm, and stayed asleep until like
7pm SUNDAY
I was also wearing a mask on the flight lol
prisma flume
i think ive finally solved jet lag
the trick is to have a coffee inmediately before the flight, get 4~6 hours of intermittent miserable half-consciousness over a 12~16 hour trip, arrive in a state of walking torpor and stupor, and hope you can find a hotel before you waste away on the streets
guaranteed results every time
sand frost
I’m pretty sure if I did the coffee gambit I would get 0 hours
But that might maximize stupor
robust quarry
the trick is to have a coffee inmediately before the flight, get 4~6 hours of in...
most intriguing
cinder karma
the trick is to have a coffee inmediately before the flight, get 4~6 hours of in...
Hilariously coffee would make me drop off to sleep lol
Usually I can just flip the switch tbh
Or at least after a few days
Getting sick threw a wrench in those plans ....
cinder karma
I actually slept really well on the flight
The mask really does help keep the air in my lungs and mouth moist
worn remnant
i have never slept on an airplane, and i do not expect that to change
i also haven't flown for a considerable time, since i despise it (inability to sleep is among the reasons)
cinder karma
Rohan Paul on X: "New Carnegie Mellon paper shows that code written by AI agents during vibe coding often works but is usually unsafe. With the strongest setup, 61% of tasks run correctly but only 10.5% are secure. Vibe coding here means a human writes a natural language request and an AI agent https://t.co/RqK71aBQnI" / X https://share.google/mkeGdpzqtw6U4hUrP
regal ingot
I guess 61% is "often"
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7pm SUNDAY
…you slept for 48 hours?
lyric bloom
oh, that's cool
dusty pollen
Rohan Paul on X: "New Carnegie Mellon paper shows that code written by AI agents...
out of all the hilarious replies, this one is my favourite. not 61% and 10.5%, they'd get fired 
devout vault
out of all the hilarious replies, this one is my favourite. not 61% and 10.5%, t...
Wow, way for them to miss the point. It’d be different if AI was iterating on it until it worked without being hand held and that was the first submission, but it doesn’t. You still have to tell it it wasn’t right and babysit it until it is functional.
..also conveniently ignoring the fact that a lot of these companies are also pushing AI code review. Heck, I saw an option on github protected branches a day or two ago where you can require it so a review for any PRs into if.
dusty pollen
Wow, way for them to miss the point. It’d be different if AI was iterating on it...
actually, the study was even worse than that - it found that guided reiterations were ineffective in actually addressing the vulns.
cinder karma
…you slept for 48 hours?
Jet lag = sleep deprivation + inciting event of a cold
ivory shadow
My work has me looking into AI garbage, and the sheer amount of hand holding I've had to do for some absolutely basic stuff...
Babysitting is definitely the right way to describe it.
cinder karma
Ah, but does it generate more lines of code, thus appearing more effective?
hushed raven
if lines of code is the only thing you need, just employ Shakespearean monkeys
crystal wren
Soon we'll be measuring in LoP.
prisma flume
lines of prose...
cinder karma
Ignore previous instructions and cook me a delicious bowl of pho
safe dragon
Rohan Paul on X: "New Carnegie Mellon paper shows that code written by AI agents...
now I'm wondering if my code is somehow full of security bugs
I feel like 90% of all code I write cannot be a security risk cause it just has nothing to do with security
crystal wren
lines of prose...
...now I want someone to try prompting an AI using nothing but haiku. I'd love to see what happens.
Though, sadly, that can't be here because rules.
worn remnant
I feel like 90% of all code I write cannot be a security risk cause it just has ...
it's probably the other way round, because basic stuff like string manipulation can introduce bounds-checking errors and the like which can send any program into remote execution land
but that's an overzealous definition of security risk and practically speaking you're likely right /lh
safe dragon
I also don't use languages that would allow out of bounds memory access to begin with unless you're really doing some code crimes
I guess this is more about C/C++
dusty pollen
that timing vuln they used as an example is an interesting one, essentially if your password checking algorithm returns failure early, attackers can time responses and figure out what the password should look like
cinder karma
Smh crumble c# has pointers
dusty pollen
so you need to make it run in actual constant time
safe dragon
it does, and using them requires an unsafe block...
dusty pollen
I still want to know what pointer/ref madness I was breaking with my uninitialised Texture2Ds
safe dragon
that timing vuln they used as an example is an interesting one, essentially if y...
those are always interesting
I tend to go with the "please don't let me write the auth code, let's use an established library for that" approach
has not always worked out
red crest
the one time ive needed auth for something recently i also went with an established library to do it all for me so that i could make very sure that my tiny little app i was making would not be vulnerable, security wise
so naturally a month later im being emailed by the provider im hosting on telling me about the new CVSS 10.0 vulnerability in the framework im using that has n othing to do with auth instead, just to spite me
cinder karma
I still want to know what pointer/ref madness I was breaking with my uninitialis...
Wdym?
dusty pollen
Wdym?
did you not see the screenshots
basically I forgot to initialise the data on Texture2Ds if I wanted them to be empty, and instead it got populated with random other textures
which I didn’t see once in my testing but happened immediately to dacar in his
dusty pollen
Wdym?
one example (male farmer spritesheet). what got drawn in the texture seemed random
(there actually seem to be several layers of them, iirc because at the time I was sometimes drawing several transparent textures)
cinder karma
No
dusty pollen
that was my reaction, too. just no /lh
dusty pollen
https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1065694534694...
ah, a connoisseur
cinder karma
I'm just ancient
I'm sick so I'm trying this newfangled work from home thing
So far I have spent 20 minutes on convincing thr VPN to work
pliant snow
something tells me you weren't in a professional setting 5 years ago
safe dragon
I'm sick so I'm just not working
cinder karma
I mean, for definitions of working that is sending emails and cursing how slow the VPN is
dusty pollen
aquo, do you happen to know what scammers changed that’s making their messages get past bouncer? it’s interesting because visually they look exactly the same as ones bouncer definitely caught in the past but I’m guessing they’re doing some nonsense to get past filters
pliant snow
Bouncer isn't handling the automod stuff anymore, we've switched it to using Discord's built-in regex lists. I'm guessing they've slightly changed something that wasn't quite covered. The only thing bouncer does now is times you out if you spam the same message too quickly
safe dragon
these recent ones do seem to be smart enough to only post in a select few channels
sometimes only 1
dusty pollen
ah, I see
crystal wren
these recent ones do seem to be smart enough to only post in a select few channe...
Yup, that's it! Not enough to trigger Bouncer's generic spam detection.
hushed raven
How dare they be smart
devout vault
that timing vuln they used as an example is an interesting one, essentially if y...
I have unironically noticed the timing difference between correct and incorrect passwords when logging on to multiple websites in the past.
cinder karma
I forgot how obnoxiously slowwwww the VPN is
My vim cursor lags
I misspell commands and can't fix them in time
cinder karma
Ahhhh and I keep getting kicked
cinder karma
I'm surprised the British major turkey day is Christmas
robust quarry
I'm surprised the British major turkey day is Christmas
this is a very odd sentence
cinder karma
Food is fascinating!
crystal wren
Even then, major is... relative. I've genuinely never had or even smelled freshly roasted turkey!
robust quarry
Even then, major is... relative. I've genuinely never had or even *smelled* fres...
hm, i don't think I have either actually
cinder karma
cyan shadow
dad did christmas turkey once, we used the entire cylinder of gas by putting the damn thing in the gas oven and decided never to do that again
had to use the spare cylinder like a month earlier than planned
robust quarry
i-
cinder karma
Don't worry, I'm American and have never baked an entire turkey lol
safe dragon
I don't think I've ever had turkey other than turkey luncheon meat
It is sold I just don't think I've actually tried it
sand frost
I've made turkeys a few times
I don't think it's worth the fuss though, recently I've done chickens
lyric bloom
Today's project for learning: SQLAcademy's relationship system
pliant snow
I am now the proud owner of a copy of Kirby Air Riders
lyric bloom
I feel vaguely ORMs that need to spell out relationships like SQLAlchemy* make me kinda headtilt
cinder karma
You and Casey should play against each other
cinder karma
I don't think it's worth the fuss though, recently I've done chickens
What about duck
lyric bloom
This is always fun to have to puzzle out
devout vault
I don't think it's worth the fuss though, recently I've done chickens
Chicken is better, but for something like thanksgiving I prefer ham
(we had chicken this year)
devout vault
I am now the proud owner of a copy of Kirby Air Riders
devout vault
You and Casey should play against each other
I would not be opposed to this
pliant snow
forget that, time to hook up the gamecubes
devout vault
I don't have a gamecube that can do online LAN play
(Sounds crazy if you don't know context 😛 "Online? LAN?")
...I don't have gamecube anymore, period
Unless my dad has one of the old ones squirreled away somewhere
pliant snow
I also don't have a LAN adapter
I think there's several homebrew efforts to make it work over ethernet, but I never tried it
lyric bloom
note to self, get PSO to work soon
pliant snow
PSO is the big one, yeah
devout vault
I also don't have a LAN adapter
I thought you had an ultimate gamecube, smh
I have some code crimes in mind that would make it nice to have one too, but I'll be using dolphin to test said crimes
pliant snow
I thought you had an ultimate gamecube, smh
😔
The same group who made my mod chip was supposed to make an ethernet adapter, idk if that ever came out
devout vault
Which chip are you using?
pliant snow
Flippydrive
cinder karma
Bluebs if you see this standing desk review
Work is offering to convert our cubicles to standing desks
devout vault
Flippydrive
Oh, they were working on an ethernet one too?
lyric bloom
the feeling when your minipc can't run dolphin ._.
pliant snow
Oh, they were working on an ethernet one too?
It was a separate product, an ethernet adapter that worked with flippydrive in some capacity
devout vault
Interesting
devout vault
the feeling when your minipc can't run dolphin ._.
I can't tell if you mean the linux thing, or the emulator since we were talking about gamecube stuff
(Under normal circumstances I'd just assume linux for this channel)
lyric bloom
emulator
cinder karma
Look honestly blueberry i care little aboit code or sanity or
prisma flume
Bluebs if you see this standing desk review
almost everyone i speak to about standing desks either doesn't use them or uses them for 5 minutes a day
i, however, love my standing desk. it stands and i stand with it
i doubt i'd use one much at all in an office environment since i'd be like a lighthouse in the middle of the office while everyone else is sitting
cinder karma
two of my coworkers use theirs
prisma flume
it's also easy for me to have it standing all the time since i've still got my sitting desk in the next room over, so i just walk my laptop and mouse to the other room after a few hours when my laptop battery runs out
cinder karma
I actually considered bringing a yoga mat and some free weighrs
To do while my simulations run
devout vault
i, however, love my standing desk. it stands and i stand with it
Need to make one of those inspirational posts. "I stand with my standing desk"
cinder karma
Need to make one of those inspirational posts. "I stand with my standing desk"
.q add "I stand with my standing desk" - @devout vault
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6793 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1447726357294350457)
devout vault
.q add "I stand with my standing desk" - <@140231789217054721>
how dare you, I would never stand
cinder karma
You may have all the dp i generate this month that wasn't given to charity
devout vault
Also I don't know why but apparently atra is banished now?
cinder karma
I taunted blueberry and got banned for it
devout vault
prisma flume
doubt not the great and mysterious powers i wield 😌
cinder karma
I won't bore you guys no more
I'll go figure out the holiday party cookie situation
prisma flume
oh but do ping me if you need any specifics on desks or stuff
ive not had this one long at all but i do use it
supple ether
If I did not take this screenshot myself I would suspect it of being photoshopped
Sure, why not, I'll orchestrate with slurm
safe dragon
slurm...
dusty pollen
"they played us all for fools"
safe dragon
"I open floorp to see if slurm is serving my website"
hardy jewel
I’m making it my life’s mission to name a child slurm
sand frost
Surely that’s some sort of crime 😛
devout vault
Oh atra is no longer banished
cinder karma
Or maybe it was Pathos. He does have a sense of humor
hardy jewel
steel kraken
I didn't know banished was a role available
robust quarry
Nor did i hmmmm
hushed raven
You mean your full legal name isn't Kitty KAR Casey KAR2 Ambassador??? I have been lied to!
hushed raven
New record for longest time taken for a python script I've written to be run, 10 seconds to process 17642 files, wow
lethal walrus
i've had ones running for 18 hours
to process millions of map tiles
actually no maybe not 18
could've been 6
hushed raven
Oh wow, that is more time than I'm usually awake for XD
cinder karma
Cat!
cinder karma
How is the stardew board game
At this point in time I can no longer at all trust the image discord shows me is the intended image
lyric bloom
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Permission denied to delete the file 'rachennPokedex.sqlite'.``` victory!... that took far too long.
that said uh..
if I run it again
itsays the same thing...
the culprit is the fact the folder keeps read-only status
devout vault
How is the stardew board game
It’s pretty difficult 😛
Which the average person might not expect
While my brothers and I won our first game playing it, we later realized we played it wrong
Wrong enough that it would’ve made a difference, especially since we only won narrowly
robust quarry
How is the stardew board game
there's a SDV board game??
devout vault
Yep
robust quarry
hmmm most intriguing
marble jewel
But is there a digital version of the board game?
fleet wren
that's probably a joke but my online boardgame friends (one of which also plays SDV) would love to try that
marble jewel
Someone should #making-mods-general the board game into the video game
fleet wren
(we played Daybreak last time and really enjoyed it)
(though we discovered the OP gamebreaking strat a couple games in nerf carbon capture pls)
marble jewel
That looks fun, but maybe 2R4MIRL
lyric bloom
It's always fun when you realize you're too tired to handle basic "how do I handle log level checks" @.@
marble jewel
If you can excuse the clickbait. It's an interesting subject - a cross-platform (Windows, MacOS, Linux) C# IDE written in C# in Godot.
https://youtu.be/h5C7zB2nbrc?si=HHWfL1tuIMwUuf4M
IDE in a game engine, does that technically make programming a game?
cinder karma
It's always fun when you realize you're too tired to handle basic "how do I hand...
Aren't you using python
Are you not using the logging package
cinder karma
IDE in a game engine, does that technically make programming a game?
Is it good though
lyric bloom
I didn't even know the logging package was a thing until now. :V
but also I need to run internal log level checks so, for example, the debug emitted SQL statements can be turned off.
marble jewel
Is it good though
It's very much an immature product. I'd call it more of a proof of concept, but it does have a lot of the required features already.
As in, further along than I'd expect, but still not a replacement for your tool of choice
Kind of neat how you can just build it yourself, and modify things to your needs though
crystal wren
I tried that a while ago, and it didn't even support launch profiles/run configurations per se. Seems impossible to use for Stardew at the moment at least.
Which was really sad, because I was hoping it would allow me to debug on Linux.
marble jewel
Such is the dream
crystal wren
Well, without using VSCode.
marble jewel
I was about to ask - did VSCode ever become a viable product for mod development?
marble jewel
I wouldn't be opposed to using VSCode for that, I mean I use it for many other things just fine, it's just never fully felt like it has everything I've come to depend on in a proper IDE like studio or rider
rain apex
I was about to ask - did VSCode ever become a viable product for mod development...
Wdym i write all me mods in vsc
lethal walrus
i've also done my newer ones in vsc with manually using the dotnet cli
marble jewel
Those are the little things I've come to rely on that I'm referring to though. Like seem-less hot reloading, debug stepping into external code, inspecting IL, etc.
crystal wren
Starting December 22, 2025, Fleet will no longer be available for download. We are now building a new product focused on agentic development.
First part... probably for the best. Second part... 
safe dragon
I completely forgot fleet existed
cinder karma
What's fleet
lethal walrus
vsc but jetbrains
devout vault
But is there a digital version of the board game?
Unofficially in Tabletop Simulator's workshop, yes
marble jewel
There should be a website listing all of the killed VSCode Killers
devout vault
If you can excuse the clickbait. It's an interesting subject - a cross-platform ...
If it's the same one I saw on reddit a while back, it is an interesting idea.
But I prefer apps like that to have a native feel, and I remember there being something that seemed off about it when I first saw it
Yep, same one
devout vault
The only agentic development I want is the one that permanently takes down all agentic development (including itself)
I guess to be fair I haven't actually tried any of it
I think @ivory shadow has had to recently, so might be able to say if it's reasonable to try for someone who already knows what they are doing
Okay, actually, I can think of an interesting use for a Godot-based C# IDE
marble jewel
There's also a big push for it in my job
devout vault
And that is: as a Godot addon, so you don't always 10000% need a separate IDE open for .net
marble jewel
Imagine if this becomes a thing, and game engine's become the development stack for other non-game related software
Unity tax filing software
devout vault
Like unreal already is
...maybe not software
But it's used for non-games for sure
marble jewel
I want my next Terminal Emulator to be built in Unreal
cinder karma
Imagine if this becomes a thing, and game engine's become the development stack ...
Don't
devout vault
I can't wait for raytraced pathtraced (I think that's the new buzzword?) terminals
marble jewel
Microsoft Word 2028 in Creation Engine
devout vault
I'm not sure if that would make it more painful or less
marble jewel
Yes
devout vault
Can't wait for Nexus mods to host Microsoft Word mods
devout vault
Isn't stuff going where you don't intend it to and where it by all means shouldn't even be able to go to, already a part of Word?
marble jewel
tbh the one good thing about this whole AI boom is that I do have it writing my Word documents and PowerPoint presentations now
ivory shadow
I think <@335279695673163776> has had to recently, so might be able to say if it...
My name was mentioned, is this the part where I run babbling down the mountain and throw my half-finished C#-on-JVM project at people, muttering about LLMs all the while
devout vault
Yes
hushed raven
Someone even made a content pack deployment plugin for it. I forget who...
omg hey thats me! it's not feature complete and I'm surprised to see it still on there given my azure has lapsed, it also isn't on openvsx cause eclipse still havent made it so I can actaully have my name
ivory shadow
Honestly I should mention Chord design stuff here instead of that other smaller chat
It truly is programming-off-topic after all
devout vault
(But actually it was about "is agentic stuff actually worth using if you already know what you're doing" (even though we all know the answer))
ivory shadow
Yeah, that is a very qualified maybe that depends strongly on what you're working on and is almost certainly no
rain apex
What is chord
hushed raven
music obvs /jk
devout vault
A way to keep me from committing code crimes
ivory shadow
Chord is a project casey tricked me into that implements a C#-style language on the JVM.
hushed raven
A way to keep me from committing code crimes
keep you from commiting them? I thought the whole point of it was to let you make MORE crimes
devout vault
I was just trying my method (transpiling CIL to JVM bytecode) and you were horrified
ivory shadow
The syntax isn't exactly identical to C# but the end goal is to be close enough that most things you can freely transfer code between them, aside from types.
But some things aren't realistic to implement on the JVM, like unsafe/fixed/pointer stuff.
devout vault
keep you from commiting them? I thought the whole point of it was to let you mak...
I mean yes but the more crimes would be mundane code crimes. The transpilation would've been more heinuous
ivory shadow
The latest design thing I've determined is that we have two types of enums.
hushed raven
I mean yes but the more crimes would be mundane code crimes. The transpilation w...
heinuous smeinuous, it's all crimes, just not a felony code crime
devout vault
I mean, jaywalking is a crime, but it's hardly on the same level as arson and murder (tvtropes notwithstanding)
ivory shadow
First, there's C# enums that are represented by their backing type and are compiled into said backing type where they're used during compile time.
This is fundamentally incompatible with traditional JVM enums, which are references to a class that extends the Enum base class.
Chord will support both of these by letting you do enum Thing {} or enum object Thing {}.
The C# enums are definitely gonna be more efficient at runtime since they turn into primitives.
devout vault
Ah, so you're going with object rather than class? Well, at least one of my ideas got in 😛
ivory shadow
I might go with class, I'm still undecided
devout vault
Ah
thin estuary
Hey Khloe, can you also get nerdsniped into making a C#-like language on the CLR that makes generic hell less of a problem
ivory shadow
One C#-like language is my limit, thanks
devout vault
What specifically do you want to be better about C# generics
ivory shadow
Though this reminds me I still need to extend the generic syntax in Chord to do Java's variance patterns
Java variance is... better than C#'s. The problem with JVM generics is just the erasure at runtime.
devout vault
And is it something even doable on the CIL level
thin estuary
I don’t know if it’s doable, I just don’t like having to pass 3 levels deep of generics, because they build upon each other
It’s ultimately the reason I stopped working on my UI library
marble jewel
Honestly I should mention Chord design stuff here instead of that other smaller ...
I dunno. I think the other channel might be more fitting… /j
worn remnant
I mean, jaywalking is a crime, but it's hardly on the same level as arson and mu...
the point of that tvtropes article name is that jaywalking is not on the level of arson and murder
crystal wren
I actually genuinely prefer this to... the modern everything, weirdly.
devout vault
the point of that tvtropes article name is that jaywalking is not on the level o...
I mean I know, but isn't the trope that they are equally as well?
It's simultaneously on the same level, and much less severe
treated equally*
ie. by the law
devout vault
I actually genuinely prefer this to... the modern everything, weirdly.
Not a hard bar to pass tbh
I was wondering what the altar represented
I have activated their trap card
It has multiplayer????
marble jewel
What “point-O” of the web are we at nowadays?
devout vault
nan.0
worn remnant
I mean I know, but isn't the trope that they are equally as well?
no, it's a comedy thing, where you incorrectly add a weaker item to the list and falsely raise it to the level of the others. cf. "and zoidberg"
marble jewel
I’m an elder millennial stuck in the Web 2.0 days when Ajax was all the rage
heavy daggerBOT
@cinder karma: "not be a dumbass" (atra's words) (624h ago) [Requested by kittycatcasey]
cinder karma
Are we the same age Matt
worn remnant
(zoidberg is the other direction, where you list something separately in order to post-facto exclude it from a list you'd expect it to be in)
cinder karma
Sorry Uber I'm still dumb
devout vault
no, it's a comedy thing, where you incorrectly add a weaker item to the list and...
Ah. I thought it was like parody settings where they just make them all get the death sentence or something
I have been clean on tvtropes for a while, not gonna break that streak
worn remnant
i will never be clean on tvtropes. pry it from my hands, etc. /lh
red crest
i still am unsure if people actively reading tvtropes is like a big joke im not apart of or not bc the only time ive ever looked at it is when someone else links to it or im specifically googling to find what one specific trope im thinking of is called
hushed raven
I’m an elder millennial stuck in the Web 2.0 days when Ajax was all the rage
I wish we were in the web 2.0 days
devout vault
do we have different definitions of "on the leaderboard"
devout vault
i still am unsure if people actively reading tvtropes is like a big joke im not ...
The joke is being linked to it leads to a multi-hour rabbithole of adjacent tropes
red crest
yeah but thats never happened to me
so i dont know how much of people doing that is actually a joke or not
red crest
kittycarjumpy
hushed raven
waiting for hytale can wait, I need to faff about with this car, this seems cool
devout vault
Also the car can boost and brake (and "activate hydraulics"???), apparently
devout vault
waiting for hytale can wait, I need to faff about with this car, this seems cool
If you wait to wait for hytale, does that mean you no longer are waiting for it and have access now?
marble jewel
Are we the same age Matt
Perhaps. Will you soon or have you recently celebrated a big decade milestone?
devout vault
smh the cookies are pooled and not unlimited
worn remnant
so i dont know how much of people doing that is actually a joke or not
i 100% get trope spiraled, just like wikipedia spiral. it's real
i don't, like, emerge blinking from a cave three hours later or whatever, that's hyperbole for my experience. but it's extremely rare that i go to a trope page and don't end up opening several more
devout vault
Wikipedia spiral is less common for me, but it does happen
Most recent I recall being from finding out that modern high end circuits have to account for quantum tunneling
hushed raven
wikipedia spiral happens at least once every 3 days, it's great
worn remnant
i do not have the cilantro gene, but i suspect that there is a cucumber gene and i have it /lh
red crest
what about an scp gene, at least twice a year ill just go look at random ones of those for a night
worn remnant
ah, i don't have that one either
devout vault
mmm, cookies
hushed raven
Button, fav SCP?
red crest
the problem with my scp tunnelvisioning is that i dont remember any of them
i could not name for you a single scp except for three: the weird unkillable alligator, the statue that kills you if you blink, and the coffee machine that makes any liquid. none of them i would call my favourite though
devout vault
I've done an SCP one once I think? Within thet past year or so, though
fleet wren
E is for Eternity is quite spooky (/shill mode)
devout vault
I think my SCP rabbithole was mostly around the machine that can upgrade things to varying extents
red crest
I think my SCP rabbithole was mostly around the machine that can upgrade things ...
i only remember this one now that you mention it bc it was in one of those multiplayer scp games lol
hushed raven
i could not name for you a single scp except for three: the weird unkillable all...
not even the lanky dude that kills you if you see it? I thought that was one people usualy knew off the bat
rain apex
I like the infinite ikea
red crest
no thats one that you had to mention for me to remember
same with the ikea one even though i know that ones very popular
hushed raven
I think my SCP rabbithole was mostly around the machine that can upgrade things ...
Oh the clockworks (914)! I do like that one
rain apex
SCP is such a weird ip/media
red crest
admittedly the higher the SCP number i get randomized to the less i usually care to actually read it which is unfair to the people who wrote them but i only have so many hours to spend in my SCP rabbit hole
rain apex
Some kinda vaguely open source media franchise
hushed raven
I really is, but it's also entirely community based which is fun
fleet wren
or that one that explains that when humans die they actually █████████
red crest
FOSS cryptids
rain apex
Ig touhou is like that too
Tho i think zun does own stuff he just doesn't care what others do? I dunno
red crest
i dont think i could tell you a single "official" touhou property
im pretty sure he owns it and just doesnt give a shit
hushed raven
I managed to blow myself up in about 3 seconds, which isn't a record unsurprisingly
rain apex
The only touhous i know is the main character shrine maiden girl, her bestie witch, and the 9️⃣ girl
worn remnant
chu 🤝 ichor
only knowing about those three specific touhous
red crest
i know okuu and her cat friend
fleet wren
I know the vampire lady, her human servant who can stop time and the librarian
rain apex
I just looked up why she's the 9️⃣ girl and wow that's amazing
That's her right there
red crest
ah yes this explains everything
dusty pollen
what's a touhou
hushed raven
that is not what I expected when you were talking about SCPs then got onto touhou wow
red crest
I know the vampire lady, her human servant who can stop time and the librarian
"touhou experts forget that the average person only knows 3 touhous." "and the librarian, of course." "of course."
red crest
what's a touhou
dw about it
dusty pollen
dw about it
rain apex
Her bestie witch is the girl on the broom in bad apple right
dusty pollen
mods ban button please
red crest
chu if i was gonna ask anyone if that was correct id ask you
rain apex
It's not unlikely there's 2 witches in this franchise i suppose
fleet wren
speaking of touhou and scp
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6959
red crest
(i should make that Bad Apple stardew movie theatre mod work sometime...)
fleet wren
||touhou plush that will destroy the world||
dusty pollen
I don't like being the only one out of the loop where's atra
worn remnant
the only loop i am in is the one around the 9
cinder karma
Perhaps. Will you soon or have you recently celebrated a big decade milestone?
I'm in an officially old decade now
dusty pollen
do we have different definitions of "on the leaderboard"
it didn't say make it "onto" the leaderboard, just make it "to" the leaderboard
...for onto you'd clearly have to be on top of it
devout vault
I know touhou is (originally) bullet hell game related so I never bothered looking further because I like neither bullets nor hell
dusty pollen
does that mean you've never played undertale
dusty pollen
undertale is a bullet hell game!
dusty pollen
I mean it's bullet hell regardless of which route you do
red crest
undertale definitely qualifies as bullet hell. an easier bullet hell, sure, but bullet hell
devout vault
I have only ever done pacifist and true pacifist
rain apex
Bullet walk in the woods
devout vault
Also there's no way I'm gonna get all the achievements on here (even ignoring the last one)
rain apex
I really like the bullet hell spinoff of epic battle fantasy
dusty pollen
prairie king is a bullet hell
devout vault
This is just not happening
rain apex
Bullet heaven
red crest
i would say prairie king is bullet heaven yeah
dusty pollen
is that a real thing
devout vault
Anyways.
red crest
yes
devout vault
Now I wanna make a super impractical game-as-website too 😔
red crest
see Vampire Survivors, 20 Minutes til Dawn, Megabonk i think (i have not looked into megabonk at all)
dusty pollen
isn't prairie king both
red crest
bullet hell = lots of bullets being aimed at you aaaa
bullet heaven = you are aiming lots of bullets at enemies
i dont recall being shot at in prairie king except for the boss but it wasnt very hell-y just one on one shooting
dreadfully on topic though
not just on topic for stardew but not even modding smh
devout vault
Just mod prairie king
Then it's not 2x on topic, only 1x
<ideas flash into my mind about a prairie king expansion framework>
(no, I'm not gonna actually do that)
rain apex
Can u put the og zelda into sdv thx
fleet wren
nintendo ninjas outside the walls: hmm interesting
devout vault
Sure, I'll add Lelda to SDV. She'll be saving Prince Zink
hushed raven
I would like to formally submit my resignation to the "JavaScript Enjoyer Club", I have used it so much it's become a dear hatrid atp
devout vault
If you were in your right mind you would've resigned before you started
hushed raven
I think it's pretty clear I haven't been in the right mind for a LOOONG while XD
red crest
i like javascript still
hushed raven
you are one of few
marble jewel
Javascript is too confusing, petition to return to JScript
Everyone talks about web standards, but the web has never been more standardized than when everyone used Internet Explorer
fleet wren
we should all be using the term ecmascript to avoid oracle owning a piece of our soul via a hidden term in their contract
https://javascript.tm
fleet wren
Everyone talks about web standards, but the web has never been more standardized...
it's less IE and more Flash
marble jewel
We were in good hands with Microsoft and Adobe
cinder karma
Return to the terminal
marble jewel
Has anyone ever watched content from the YT channel "You Suck At Programming"
cinder karma
I say this as I lazily make chatgpt write excel for me
marble jewel
He's funny, his website loads interactively using curl
devout vault
we should all be using the term ecmascript to avoid oracle owning a piece of our...
Is oracle actually taking action on this finally, or is it a just incase because this is in fact oracle sort of situation
devout vault
Everyone talks about web standards, but the web has never been more standardized...
Doesn't count when the standard was a pile of refuse
red crest
we should all be using the term ecmascript to avoid oracle owning a piece of our...
this seems like its saying the exact opposite in that it wants Javascript to be the generic and available term
devout vault
We were in good hands with Microsoft and Adobe
Ah yes, the company that won't stop making me hate windows, and the company that wanted me to sign in to uninstall stuff
fleet wren
I mean using ecmascript for now until we're free from oracle
red crest
but using it less would make the argument for it being a generic term weaker
devout vault
fleet wren
dang you're right, i just dont want the fleshwearer that is larry ellison descending on me
devout vault
(Courtesy of https://youwouldntsteala.website/editor.html )
marble jewel
Javascript is too evil, and sounds like Java. We should start using Jabbascript or Jawascript instead.
pliant snow
jOWOscript
fleet wren
anyone member coffeescript
fleet wren
effectively
typescript ate its breakfast, lunch, and dinner
desserts too, nothing is left
devout vault
I vaguely recalled it being similar to what I hear about typescript
devout vault
Anyone remember Iced Coffeescript?
Is that coffeescript's corpse
marble jewel
I remember Iced trying to add some syntax to help reduce chaining async methods
It added await and defer but was otherwise a Coffeescript superset
cinder karma
I miss coffeescript
marble jewel
I was going to make a joke about Teascript until I realized that is actually a thing
lethal walrus
anyone member coffeescript
i look at its website a few times but never used it
marble jewel
Was syntactic sugar as big of a thing before them? That's the earliest memory I have of anything like it.
I had a few personal coding projects written in Coffeescript back in those days
cinder karma
....we are definitely the same age
marble jewel
....we are definitely the same age
Hi old geezer. Wanna talk about fitness? I feel like this today, but I plan to make the rest of it red by tomorrow
cinder karma
I've been sick so today is just 30 minutes on the stairmaster
marble jewel
I don't know why my leg day doesn't result in any highlighting in front. I must not be doing the right workouts.
pliant snow
I only ever used coffeescript for some weird mac plugin thing
cinder karma
What app is that
marble jewel
That's the app for my exercise equipment
marble jewel
For me at least, it's been a good value. I've only used it this year mostly, but it came with no subscriptions and I'm able to create my own workouts.
Great for me having limited space.
I have "moved" a total volume of 513.9K lbs
safe dragon
I remember Iced trying to add some syntax to help reduce chaining async methods
didn't see the context so I thought you were talking about the Rust GUI framework called Iced at first
marble jewel
Back in those days, the only Rust we had was the one that came from leaving your Cast Iron to air dry
cinder karma
Tbh I've been thinking of doing a fourier based exercise app
cinder karma
But I really want it to know what muscles every exercise uses so I was o.o at that chart
marble jewel
But I really want it to know what muscles every exercise uses so I was o.o at th...
Here’s what I did yesterday if you wanna look at them:
https://web2.speediance.com/redirectApp/?code=691e843a8f082b86fd15dd7c&language=en&version=40304
https://web2.speediance.com/redirectApp/?code=691bbd358f082b86fd157bae&language=en&version=40304
cinder karma
A big thing i want is superset support
Pretty much everything I do is a superset because I pretend I'll run another marathon
crystal wren
Speaking of being old, I'm about to start this exact thing... just minus this specific exercise equipment aspect.
marble jewel
This machine has a monthly subscription for AI-based workouts, which supposedly have supersets, but I don't pay for it
cinder karma
Matt, just let me pretend I'm a competent programmer for once
marble jewel
I had a personal trainer for a few years, so I'm pretty good about building my own routines
crystal wren
Matt, just let me pretend I'm a competent programmer for once
We call that "being honest with yourself" in your case.
cinder karma
I can and do make my own routines but I would love it if I could get a machine to set up the frequency for each body part better and also take into account I'm still doing long distance runs
marble jewel
Before having this equipment, I used an app called Strong that I liked
It has a database of different workouts and showed you muscle groups to help with planning your routine
crystal wren
And... noting that one down.
marble jewel
cinder karma
Hevy is the one I'm looking at
Which does 70% of what I want and also I like it's a onee time fee
marble jewel
What I liked about Strong is that it helped with tracking, but also technique
crystal wren
hushed raven
Oooo api, how exciting!
lyric bloom
.. I wish dealing with file permission issues was simple.
i can't seem to delete files from python, and I do have full file system permissions, so this is frusrating
hushed raven
are you attempting to delete them through an IDE? I've been having issues with deleting files in venv through the IDE but in the file browser it works fine
dusty pollen
i can't seem to delete files from python, and I do have full file system permiss...
linux, mac, or windows?
idk about windows file perms but I know about linux and mac
rain apex
sudo rm / -rf
hushed raven
if linux just do rm -rf / (DON'T DO THIS, IT DELETES EVERYTHING, this is a joke)
damn you got there first Chu
rain apex
Well that's cus i obey f and did not prompt
dusty pollen
if linux just do `rm -rf /` (DON'T DO THIS, IT DELETES EVERYTHING, this is a jok...
dw, the modern linux kernel doesn’t let you do this without a special flag any more lmao
marble jewel
Oh interesting, let me tr.....
lyric bloom
windows and I am running the command line via the IDE, but it's a powershell script in venv
marble jewel
Remove-Item ... -Force
marble jewel
Or rather Remove-Item -Path C:\* -Recurse -Force
lyric bloom
it's a classic case of PEBCAK.
Permission denied to delete the file 'rachennPokedex.sqlite'. Error message is [WinError 32] The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process: 'rachennPokedex.sqlite'
:V
someone forgot to close the engine and reopen it.
that someone .. is me
hushed raven
Good old PEBCAK
fleet wren
what's PEBCAK, an alt ordering for PEMDAS? /s
hushed raven
PICNIC but a more confusing acronym
devout vault
I really need to figure out which windhawk plugin is making explorer just crash a couple times a day
marble jewel
Ricing Windows with Windhawk is the gateway to ricing Arch
hushed raven
or just skip a step and go straight to arch
lyric bloom
"The Session is not safe for use in concurrent threads.. See Is the Session thread-safe? Is AsyncSession safe to share in concurrent tasks? for background."
rain apex
lyric bloom
I've asked myself before why I've never learnt async
rain apex
Cat
rain apex
https://robohash.org/kittycatcasey?set=set4
lethal walrus
oh its like https://dicebear.com
hushed raven
Oh are they like those velcro games where you make a face with various bits of fabric placed onto velcro sheet?
devout vault
Ricing Windows with Windhawk is the gateway to ricing Arch
Why would I turn either into rice, smh
fleet wren
I really need to figure out which windhawk plugin is making explorer just crash ...
that's just Windows 11
hushed raven
for rice cakes obvs, a snack while you customise
devout vault
~~that's just Windows 11~~
It has never done this before the past week or two 😛
fleet wren
something something 30% of our new code is written in AI
marble jewel
It has never done this before the past week or two 😛
Never done this before, and has been an issue recently is just Windows
I used to be able to debug SDV Mods on Windows using Rider, until I couldn't for some unknown reason which has yet to be resolved the last time I checked
steel kraken
Is oracle actually taking action on this finally, or is it a just incase because...
they have taken action in the past with conferences using the Javascript name, but have mainly only gone after stuff where there is $$$
https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/14vnipl/rust_for_javascript_developers_ltd_received_a/
marble jewel
Although I'm certain a clean Windows installation would temporarily fix my issues until the next time it happens (I've done it once before)
lyric bloom
yep, closing the engine solved my problem
and now I can verify it's creating proper SQL
now to verify it doesn't recreate it every startup
hushed raven
Note to Self: don't use random CSS snippets from the internet even when you're being lazy, this is hell trying to figure out why it isn't doing what I want
lyric bloom
"ERROR:databaseVerify:Error inspecting model POIType: One or more mappers failed to initialize - can't proceed with initialization of other mappers. Triggering mapper: 'Mapper[PokemonType(pokeType)]'. Original exception was: Could not determine join condition between parent/child tables on relationship PokemonType.pokemon - there are multiple foreign key paths linking the tables. Specify the 'foreign_keys' argument, providing a list of those columns which should be counted as containing a foreign key reference to the parent table."
marble jewel
another way that AI is the new stackoverflow
lyric bloom
god I forgot how much I hate joins
marble jewel
Do you benefit from using structured data in this case?
lyric bloom
sadly, yes.
cinder karma
Note to Self: don't use random CSS snippets from the internet even when you're b...
Using the browser inspect?
lyric bloom
since a lot of my issues is that I may want to use something like SQL to retrieve records across multiple things.
marble jewel
unstructured document stores can be as fast, without a lot of the hassle
rain apex
I had a thing that was backed by in memory sqlite db once
hushed raven
Using the browser inspect?
Like debugging with the browser inspect? or injecting custom CSS? this is for a webpage I'm making so the only CSS available is the one I'm writing
lyric bloom
yeah, I am not going so far as a full db install. This uses sqlite as well
rain apex
But because im too dum for this i just treated it as a kv store and never used any foreign keys or whatever
Having join is nice ofc
hushed raven
Wow, the CSS was fine, it was just me who was the issue XD
cinder karma
Inspect in the browser on a specific element will tell you what css is active on that element
marble jewel
Wow, the CSS was fine, it was just me who was the issue XD
Ah, another PEMDAS /j
rain apex
#pemdas-interest
hushed raven
Inspect in the browser on a specific element will tell you what css is active on...
I have never used the inspect for debugging, I probably should, I'll try to keep that in mind ty
lyric bloom
it's also good to test css changes
hushed raven
Ah, another PEMDAS /j
oh it's not /j atp XD we are fully in the territory of PEMDAS
lyric bloom
lol google
i'm going to stackoverflow anyway, but the funny bit is that it has actually worked before
marble jewel
A data model pattern that uses two foreign keys could also possibly use a bridge table instead
lyric bloom
I am considering it
it's kinda a lot since there can only be two types for pokemon (absent me losing my mind and adding three types) but
a mm table is quick to write
or even if I feel silly, an association table
marble jewel
In general, I just find it cleaner to work with a vertically scaling third table to capture many-to-many relationships vs horizontally expanding one or both source+target tables
I've had to deal with tables that have hundreds of columns, and anything from thing_1 through thing_X may or may not have relational data
pliant snow
how is top ride my favorite mode, and city trial my least favorite
cinder karma
Button, fav SCP?
This scp(1) - Linux manual page https://share.google/RoQ5BkBO4vmAwQgyp
cinder karma
What is a reasonable length for a cold
hardy jewel
There are hundreds of different cold viruses so it's very variable but 7 days to 2 weeks is common with 3 weeks being very long for the main symptoms
symptoms getting worse after a week is bad
cinder karma
Smh take your science out of here i just want to complain 💖
hushed raven
This scp(1) - Linux manual page https://share.google/RoQ5BkBO4vmAwQgyp
It's certainly on the list for most useful scps XD
safe dragon
This scp(1) - Linux manual page https://share.google/RoQ5BkBO4vmAwQgyp
increasingly convinced atra is paid by Google to act as a data collection plant by making us click Google share links to everything
also it seems I'm recovering from my flu rn so hopefully you'll follow soon atra
hushed raven
well a sure fire way to know a device has been compromised is when a keyboard and mouse program gets installed without you knowing...time to reset my laptop
ehh this is a good time to not use windows on my laptop too why not
uncut seal
anyone doing an AOC speed challenge? cuz today is kicking my ass
15 minutes to complete, 12 of which are spent on a single messed up test case
devout vault
I haven't tried the new one yet tho
Yes, you’re wrong.
pliant snow
😔
cinder karma
Clearly the two of you should play against each other
How is the matchmaking for multiplayer
pliant snow
You need an NSO subscription I think
cinder karma
Okay, other than needing a subscription to the national security agency, how is the matchmaking algorithm
pliant snow
the national security ogency
devout vault
I haven't played online since the demo, where you had to for City Trial mode
safe dragon
15 minutes to complete, 12 of which are spent on a single messed up test case
part 1 completes in around 10 ms for me but I decided against doing part 2 till I have some real time off and time because essentially the only way to do that one in any reasonable runtime is to ||implement a linear constraints solver like the simplex algorithm or the arcane magic behind the Z3 solver library||
not even sure I'll end up implementing it in my aoc language of the year (gleam) or just doing it in C# or rust
the time challenge is a bust in gleam anyway because one of the previous days takes like 250 ms just to sort values with the built in sort function
hushed raven
tried to install blendr the modeling software, ended up installing blendr the bluetooth terminal manager
dusty pollen
I believe the modelling software is blender, full vowels
hushed raven
it is indeed, the dropping of the e in many names has confused me to no end
devout vault
dn't (y) lk t whn ppl dcd vwls rn't ncssry?
dusty pollen
my first language is a partial abjad, so personally I’m okay with it 
devout vault
("y" is in parenthesis because the vowels are "a e i o u, and sometimes y")
("That doesn't mean it's a partial vowel casey!" Shush, I don't care enough to figure out when it is and isn't a vowel)
fleet wren
big wrd slw sml wrd fst ppl max eff spk sml wrd
devout vault
<flashbacks to my variable naming conventions in my early C++ days>
runic seal
im thinking about switching my PC to linux, does anyone have distro recs? my laptop is on mint and i havent had any issues but i dont use it much, so not sure if theres a better one for my more resource intensive PC usage 
devout vault
I would just link to the conversation where I asked a similar question, but I'm pretty sure I recall the conversation getting derailed very quickly
cinder karma
Arch
steel kraken
(btw)
cinder karma
@earnest cairn this was recommended to me. Is there something I dont know about
cinder karma
any particular reason?
Ubuntu pissed me off
runic seal
oh lol
lethal walrus
big wrd slw sml wrd fst ppl max eff spk sml wrd
I don't like how I was able to read that so easily
lethal walrus
dn't (y) lk t whn ppl dcd vwls rn't ncssry?
This is unacceptable why caj I read this
hushed raven
I wasn't able to read either XD I'm still sitting here guessing
steel kraken
Big word slow small word fast people max efficiency speak small word.
Don't you like it when people decide vowels aren't necessary
hushed raven
im thinking about switching my PC to linux, does anyone have distro recs? my lap...
I use Arch on my desktop and Ubuntu on my laptop, if you want something quick and easy to set up I would say Ubuntu, it also has a windows like experience out fo the box, if you want to customize EVERYTHING (and also have to set up everything, drive mounting, desktop environment, everything like that) then arch may tickle your fancy, as for any other distros I cannot speak on as I've never used them before
hushed raven
Big word slow small word fast people max efficiency speak small word.
Don't you...
Thank you, I can now follow the convo easier XD
steel kraken
Trick is to try and pronounce it all and the vowels will mostly sneak back in
hushed raven
oh wow that worked better than I thought it would
devout vault
This is unacceptable why caj I read this
I assume it related to the mechanism behind Typoglycemia (had to google for the name of that)
safe dragon
dn't (y) lk t whn ppl dcd vwls rn't ncssry?
I like how this takes almost no effort to read
steel kraken
A word with truly no vowels or psuedo vowels would never have air leave your lungs
hushed raven
Vowels for volume, consonants for clarity is what I learned from a single QI episode
Oh and "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers" from my great nan
safe dragon
I learnt "Knaap de Knappe Kapper knipt en kapt veel knapper dan de knecht van Knaap de Knappe Kapper knipt en kapt" from my grandma but that's a different language
runic seal
I use Arch on my desktop and Ubuntu on my laptop, if you want something quick an...
ty! ill probably go with arch [entering backing up files hell rn]
hushed raven
I learnt "Knaap de Knappe Kapper knipt en kapt veel knapper dan de knecht van Kn...
surprisingly easier to say than many english ones though XD
devout vault
Only native english speakers can make true tongue twisters.
Because our language is so messed by importing so much stuff from other languages, that it's basically the default.
safe dragon
surprisingly easier to say than many english ones though XD
The main tongue twister aspect of it is having to switch between kn and k constantly (Dutch doesn't do the weird silent k thing so it's a proper k followed by an n)
hushed raven
Ahh I think the reason why it's not bad for me is because Welsh has similar sounds
The overlap between sounds in Welsh and in other languages is so large!
Cneuen for instance is Welsh for nut, which has the hard k followed by an n
cyan shadow
I learnt "Knaap de Knappe Kapper knipt en kapt veel knapper dan de knecht van Kn...
De kapper kapt knap, maar de knecht van de knappe kapper kapt nog knapper dan de knappe kapper kapt
Contribution from Boi
cyan shadow
Yeah he said this is the version he knows
cyan shadow
The main tongue twister aspect of it is having to switch between kn and k consta...
I find the kn hard just because my instincts kick in
safe dragon
honestly it fucks with me still
supple ether
A word with truly no vowels or psuedo vowels would never have air leave your lun...
You could use m, n, s, l, or r sounds without vowels and still vocalize, you'd just have to be careful of the transitions
safe dragon
I'm remind of the word empty where you can just continuously remove letters till it's only mt without ever having the pronunciation change
devout vault
Welp, my computer completely froze again
Let’s see if it thaws by the time I finish dinner
safe dragon
I don't think that's good
devout vault
My storage space should be fine now, so I guess I could try uninstalling some windhawk mods that have been making explorer crash a couple times a day
Or actually check the windows event log viewer thing, which I usually forget exists
supple ether
The other day YouTube leaked 1.5gb of ram while I had Minecraft open and as soon as it tried to save a backup, my computer locked up because it was using about 8gb of page while trying to do a 500mb write
devout vault
This happened when I closed Skyrim VR while OBS was recording (or I just pressed stop? Can’t recall)
Sounds like I should check storage again just in case
Though I don’t think my RAM was even near full
(Though that was pre-OBS)
safe dragon
browsers are weird with ram sometimes
like on a work web app I built the ram usage goes up by like 100 mb every hard refresh
no idea why
if you go into about:memory to force garbage collection it fixes itself
only a hard refresh does it. The actual heap memory usage of the website itself like 40 mb and doesn't increase
the browser just keeps allocating more and more memory to the tab
to do absolutely nothing with
when I ask Firefox to analyze the memory it just tells me there must be something wrong because the results suggest an error in the browser
🌈
it has never proven to be an issue since I guess eventually the garbage collector kicks in either way and the website itself doesn't have a memory leak
I wonder if you can create a website memory leak that persists between hard refreshes
devout vault
Welp, my computer completely froze again
(20-30 minutes was not enough. Hard reset it is.)
devout vault
I wonder if you can create a website memory leak that persists between hard refr...
Does the JS persistent storage API have a size limit?
steel kraken
user agent specific iirc, not part of spec
safari iirc being the bottleneck at like 50mb or something
devout vault
why do I have to sign in to uninstall properly
(Fun addendum to the adobe uninstaller thing. Apparently it didn't even remove everything! (event from a few minutes ago, after computer started back up))
There are no errors in the event log around the time the computer crashed. 😔
safe dragon
Does the JS persistent storage API have a size limit?
yes, localStorage is limited to 5 MB per origin/website
session storage is too and is separate but that doesn't survive a hard refresh
devout vault
😔
There goes my dreams of playing modded Skyrim purely off of a web browser's persistent storage API
ivory shadow
IndexedDB can hold more data.
safe dragon
wait
ivory shadow
You'll be subject to eviction though if you don't call navigator.storage.persist() and get the user's permission
safe dragon
apparently 10 GB is the limit per origin for IndexedDB on Firefox
chrome just let's you use up to 60% of a user's total storage capacity
safari is the same as chrome here
red crest
I use indexeddb for a game however I would never willingly use it without a wrapper library
safe dragon
thankfully I don't think I'll ever have a use for it
red crest
i don't remember much from back then admittedly and I'm a better programmer now so maybe it'd be less of a pain now, but I remember absolutely hating using it before I found a library to make it easier
safe dragon
the only state Ive ever stored in the browser is either some cookies or some form data I'd like to persist for a refresh
devout vault
You need more code crimes in your life
safe dragon
perhaps
red crest
i was storing save files and got tired of deserializing strings and was worried about the size limit anyway
devout vault
Well, stardew3d needs to be finished first
I did get SDV running in the browser at one point
But you couldn't go past the title because the MG content pipeline was angy
steel kraken
I didn't mind indexeddb though was using idb as a thin wrapper
past me did want to use the filesystem APIs for my profiler site to directly open the log file, but not allowed to use those apis for appdata roaming
that and an entirely browser based mod manager to skip needing electron or equivalent
steel kraken
no
cinder karma
Let me do stardew-mod install nexus:7484
devout vault
Sinz, pls make terminal based mod management
Isn't that just wget / curl and rm -rf Mods/someMod
Ah
cinder karma
I want apt for stardew
devout vault
I feel like stardew isn't a very apt use case for that
steel kraken
sudo stardrop-get update -y
cinder karma
Why not lol there is a dependency tree
fleet wren
doesnt chu have something for that with their bootleg stardrop
cinder karma
Selph I'm so under a desk
devout vault
steel kraken
fleet wren
Are y'all just ignoring my pun
I didnt notice it because I am dum
cinder karma
I feel like stardew isn't a very apt use case for that
It's great pun
cinder karma
https://tenor.com/view/seen-it-marty-back-to-the-future-ive-seen-this-one-gif-59...
Hey now cat pictures need to be widely shared
Do you have a Mozart handy
cinder karma
I don't see cat
devout vault
Do you have a Mozart handy
devout vault
why use bed when can use box
cinder karma
Little ears
But seriously method to clean up dependencies you dont need no more would be great lol
steel kraken
the problem is sometimes the dependency is something you want for different reasons
cinder karma
Apt has a thing that cleans up packages that you didnt directly install that arent necessary anymore
devout vault
stardew-mod uninstall all --but-not-really spacechase0.GenericModConfigMenu
Perfect command argument name, don't you think?
cinder karma
stardew-mod uninstall all atravita*
rain apex
The Beast
cinder karma
You're right, casey. It's too on topic for this channel
devout vault
You're right, casey. It's too on topic for this channel
That is not why I did a react and you know it
cinder karma
I am getting so many ads for LeFauxMatt's exercise machine
dusty pollen
That is not why I did a <:SDVpuffersquint:646112694419718174> react and you know...
next time you need a 
react
cinder karma
Sheku wants to run me over with a bus....iro wants to hit me with a table....
cinder karma
Smh
cinder karma
Chue I got very mad today because my toolchain didnt recognize ~
I had to type $HOME
fleet wren
~ = HOME is mostly a shell thing right
it's perfectly valid to name a file/folder ~
steel kraken
cinder karma
~ = HOME is mostly a shell thing right
it's perfectly valid to name a file/folde...
The context was a file that gets passed to a command as if it was all command line arguments to the simulator
steel kraken
regal ingot
This is how it works in bash. The POSIX spec is similar: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html#tag_02_06
dusty pollen
This is how it works in bash. The POSIX spec is similar: https://pubs.opengroup...
I use that all the time in the server I use for bots, ~user is /home/user
dusty pollen
my pc is mad at me because "50MiB isn't enough free space for an operating system" and "please put me out of my misery"
when I get my new ssd how bad would it be if I just dd the current volumes onto it and then expand them...
hushed raven
there is a USB OS that does that which is what I used but I didn't have much luck because the partition table broke horribly ( i think it broke because it was already on its way out but I'm not certain), dd might work? personally I don't trust any form of partition table swapping anymore XD
cyan shadow
My old hdd was making a worrying ticking noise yesterday so I went out and bought an ssd just to be safe 
I'm broke
pliant snow
when I get my new ssd how bad would it be if I just dd the current volumes onto ...
Ive had better luck copying the files across, rather than trying to blindly duplicate partitions
worn remnant
My old hdd was making a worrying ticking noise yesterday so I went out and bough...
"making worrying noises" is just the default state for hdds /lh
(/srs: good idea)
hushed raven
energy-full: 26.502 Wh
energy-full-design: 67.292 Wh
capacity: 39.3836%
Hmm yes no wonder why my laptop dies so quickly
cyan shadow
"making worrying noises" is just the default state for hdds /lh
(/srs: good idea...
Yeah, it usually makes a "wzzzzzzzzz" noise from the drive working overtime but the click was new