I think if you need a ClassName to understand what the enum does I think that's a mistake maybe
#programmers-off-topic
red crest
safe dragon
honestly I'm learning here you can even put an enum inside of a class
rain apex
I have refactored out ClassName.Flavor to a not nested ClassNameFlavor before tho
red crest
to be fair
rain apex
Just cus private Flavor Flavor has cursed shadowing effects
red crest
I also have a very different code style from you too 
cinder karma
Also to be fair, crumble
Despite being very enum happy
I can also function in a world that just uses bytes
I've been reading generated code today
safe dragon
bit flag enums only
red crest
Chu and I are just code incompatible and this is why we always just scope creep each other instead of PRing each other
safe dragon
301 through 307 are all redirect status codes
heavy daggerBOT
New quote added by atravita as #6632 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/1215712021207720006/1417280044400644229)
cinder karma
Lol
red crest
Just cus private Flavor Flavor has cursed shadowing effects
rename it FoodFlavour or something
tranquil grove
at some point I forgot enums can exist outside classes, I thought you were all advocating for a static class EnumPile 
safe dragon
why are y'all putting enums inside classes
red crest
that way I can have my private Flavor RequestedFlavor for my order placing class, or PreferredFlavor for the class of regulars
devout vault
at some point I forgot enums can exist outside classes, I thought you were all a...
(There are times when I want free standing functions)
safe dragon
I put them in the same namespace sometimes but
tranquil grove
enums usually represent specific options in an SDV asset or something, so I'd rather it just be inside that
(in the contexts around SDV)
red crest
why are y'all putting enums inside classes
"this enum was made for this class and therefore it goes inside it" is my reasoning
red crest
like nesting a struct
safe dragon
which I've also never done
tranquil grove
it's like nested classes for cases where it's really only meant to be used inside the outer class
though that pattern's probably weirder
cinder karma
You have no clue how many items I threw when I realized I couldn't use an enum for my state machine because I needed Volatile lol
safe dragon
🌈
safe dragon
the volatile keyword... exists
that's where my knowledge ends
I have never seen it before in any code
devout vault
Yeah I've never used it
It's something to do with multithreading, and/or other situations when you don't want the compiler to optimize away get/set when it "wouldn't be necessary", right? (At least in C++)
safe dragon
it's something with threading that's all I know
cinder karma
Yup
cinder karma
Rust Atomics and Locks — Chapter 3. Memory Ordering https://share.google/cfDXic5pAnphC6Qcj
safe dragon
I've worked plenty with threaded code but always with locks, semaphores, concurrent data structures etc
tranquil grove
the C# ref page for volatile is mostly "here are things like volatile but better, please don't use volatile" 
but i guess it causes optimization changes for multithread-besieged fields
safe dragon
it definitely falls in the category of "my PR would get rejected if I used this"
supple ether
(There are times when I want free standing functions)
I want free-standing constants tbh
My current solution is to just make a static class with global using but man... I don't get why we can't have them
tranquil grove
yeah, some of my code is still really tangled around a static "properties" class from ages ago
though I've finally started messing with better formats
safe dragon
all my projects end up with static classes that are just a big list of public consts
devout vault
I'm fine with still needing using, but like, why can't I just do PI instead of Math.PI every time
Java at least had using static
supple ether
Well. There's also MathF.PI tbf
supple ether
Java at least had `using static`
C# has using static
devout vault
Yeah, that's where using comes in
safe dragon
it's like math but more F-y
devout vault
C# has using static
Okay maybe I'm confusing java and C# again
rain apex
if microsoft let me have #define i will write entire methods in there and it's probably a bad thing
devout vault
You mean like literally every C/C++ developer (especially pre-constexpr)
supple ether
Also it took me way too long to realize Math.TAU was a thing. Previously I was just multiplying pi
safe dragon
which it'd then do during compilation most likely
rain apex
safe dragon
safe dragon
<:SDVpuffertbh:1112857064033759243>
I know that one
safe dragon
<:SDVpufferchickmayor:958974087135363082>
this one I did not
rain apex
i feel like 
is perfectly normal then
safe dragon
I'll accept it even though I have no idea what it implies
supple ether
cinder karma
if microsoft let me have #define i will write entire methods in there and it's p...
Conditional Compilation my beloved
(I used to abuse it so much to turn up and down logging)
safe dragon
someday I'll try Zig
with its comptime that people seem to love
Just run practically arbitrary code during compilation...
it does seem kind of incredible
Just slap a keyword in front of it like "oh yeah do this ahead of time during compilation thanks"
and that's that
cinder karma
Makes sense
steel kraken
As in 10 is 10 or go 5.7346
If the later, it can't be stored as a floating point number because accuracy is important, 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 must exactly be 0.3 and not a tiny bit extra
cinder karma
Let's do farthings again
Then again the IRS pretty much rounds to the nearest $1k a lot 
steel kraken
The ez solution is just have more inflation and then just drop cents/pennies entirely
steel kraken
In Australia we got our penny equivalent removed ages ago and all prices must have the cents be a multiple of 5 (59.95) and that if paying in cash/coins then the total transaction value rounds to the nearest multiple of 5 (though electronic payment is optional rounding)
cinder karma
In unrelated, purple asparagus
supple ether
Where all money is virtual, why round at pennies?
In the us the smallest unit is technically mils, which are 1/1000th of a dollar and that's usually what's used for financial calculations. We just don't have denominations that small so consumer-facing stuff is usually cents instead
cinder karma
Yeah, I checked. So it is possible at least somewhat to have fractional cents
supple ether
Hmm
cinder karma
Tbh I have no clue how this works
Oh the history of the stock market is...interesting
Apparently stocks used to be quoted in 1/16ths of a dollar
You'd think I would know this shit lol.
So, the actual answer is whatever I bought was rounded to the nearest cent
No idea how fractional shares play into that. Tbh I haven't thought that far
dusty pollen
I used to do the former, moved to the latter, then gave up and made myself a static logging helper in my current project
steel kraken
in Debugger I have a scuffed static logger with vague attempts of maybe making it thread-safe ish?
I dont think it fully is though
cinder karma
it's not
dusty pollen
thread safety is for people who aren't willing to pretend everything is single threaded
steel kraken
Debugger isn't single threaded, each client connection is running in its own thread
cinder karma
anyways my youtube has now started lecturing me on dehumdifiers so I should sleep
steel kraken
and I made the audio stuff in SpeedySolutions multi-threaded but forgot to turn its logging off so that blew up
dusty pollen
Debugger isn't single threaded, each client connection is running in its own thr...
and therein lies your issue!
cinder karma
sinz, I've always just logged shit from other threads fine
it gets interleaved and sometimes looks funky but so far I haven't blown anything up
it used to be On My List to look into zero allocation/thread safe wrappers and then I gave up
steel kraken
it straight up crashed smapi.io/log and breaks profiler site wanting its uninterrupted json blocks
cinder karma
(there was a lib I was considering. It was net 6.0)
well, writing json was your problem.
dusty pollen
the solution is clearly to stop making mods for the current version of the game/smapi
steel kraken
in Winforms it would have been fairly easy to force it to resync on main thread, but I don't know how to easily do it without those synchronization contexts or whatever
steel kraken
oh XNA has a utility for it? sweet
cinder karma
it's internal but nothing a little publicizer won't get you
steel kraken
the internal one has less checks but there is a public one
cinder karma
those are both internal in whatever build I'm looking at
steel kraken
cinder karma
Stardew Valley, Version=1.6.15.24356 (I'm now really at risk of being on topic)
steel kraken
actually this isn't a fair comparison, for whatever reason the version of MonoGame.Framework my ILSpy has loaded is from SpriteMaster post GeneratedPublicizedAssemblies
ok now my version agrees its internal only
I kinda wish there was an async/non-blocking variant for this, as I'd want the log to fire and forget and let the off-thread resume what its doing
steel kraken
that would require me to maintain my own parallel log file though and then I don't get the benefits of having people use pathos's upload infra
cinder karma
Is it not possible to mangle it into using your logger instance
Yeah custom appender is possible
devout vault
I used to do the former, moved to the latter, then gave up and made myself a sta...
(Me too but I was over simplifying. I’ve used a Log.Info type thing for ages)
devout vault
Debugger isn't single threaded, each client connection is running in its own thr...
Just use non blocking sockets!
steel kraken
the DAP library I'm using wants Streams
there might be a nonblocking TcpListener variant though to save on one thread
devout vault
Every time I’ve done sockets I’ve used non blocking
Like there was a selector or something in SFML that I didn’t use because it was intended for blocking sockets
(Or maybe I did use it after I learned it worked fine for that?)
For the tcp listener I threw it on a thread and when a connection was received, sent it straight to a queue for the main thread to worry about and do handshake stuff and whatnot
Literally avoided threading as much as I could because I didn’t want to figure out anything beyond mutexes
(To be fair, this was pre-c++11 when there was nothing standardized for threading)
steel kraken
looks like there are async variants of the key methods I need which would turn it from a thread problem to a task problem
devout vault
(So a library like SFML was the only option for cross platform ones, and non cross platform APIs usually were more complex)
steel kraken
but without a syncronization context the tasks wont be guarenteed to return back to ui/mainthread
devout vault
Like, to this day I don’t know what a semaphore really is (my OS class in college was during one of the semesters my mental health was collapsing)
I should be trying to be sleep right now though
steel kraken
when I hear semaphore I think railway signalling, but I forget what it fully meant in that context as well
devout vault
Semaphore? More like she-a’-snore(-ing)!
(Good night 😛 )
steel kraken
https://github.com/SinZ163/StardewMods/blob/main/Debugger/DAP/DebugAdapterManager.cs#L40-L92 I was fairly lazy and took a basic bitch example as I wanted it to work at all and focus on the hard parts
devout vault
(Yes that was terrible, I’m aware)
dusty pollen
Like, to this day I don’t know what a semaphore really is (my OS class in colleg...
(shouldn’t semaphores be in concurrency classes)
cinder karma
I got semaphores in boat signaling class
dusty pollen
why were you in boat signalling class
cinder karma
Why were you not in boat signaling class
safe dragon
yeah why weren't you
worn remnant
-# why weren't you at elf practice
sand frost
I only know semaphores from puzzles
cinder karma
Why were YOU not at boat signaling class
steel kraken
I missed the prerequisite classes
cyan shadow
Why were YOU not at boat signaling class
Because I was at railway signalling class instead
steel kraken
railway signalling is fun, though modern systems are starting to replace them with stuff like CBTC (Communications-based train control) or ETCS (European Train Control System) to obsolete the need for actually line of sight signals next to the tracks
cinder karma
Ngl the fact that modern flights still primarily use radio is a bit...scary
steel kraken
the main reasoning for modernizing it for trains is higher density trains, and can trivially automate the driving of the train using it (though all the other stuff the driver did on the event of a fault or other issue become problems with the driver now missing)
safe dragon
Ngl the fact that modern flights still primarily use radio is a bit...scary
it's preferable over smoke signals
warped adder
railway signalling is fun, though modern systems are starting to replace them wi...
we learned some train signals at driving school for the 'car broke down on train tracks' situation
steel kraken
airports have other factors bottlenecking flights than the radio system used for ATC
warped adder
well, more like 'how to get attention'
safe dragon
"damn there's a car stuck on the track but there's no signal so I guess it's fine to continue"
warped adder
trains go real fast, and visibility is not always in a straight line
steel kraken
trains work by being a very low friction environment to be extremely efficient at moving heavy loads
that also means they can't stop quickly
warped adder
you have to go along the tracks, preferably with someone else also going in the other direction, and [i forgot this part beyond 'wave something colorful']
safe dragon
yeah of course I assume the signal more than just waving next to your car
steel kraken
usually by the time a driver has line of sight of an obstacle, its too late
warped adder
its just about going along the tracks im afraid. i dont remember the specific signal, i could look it up if this ever happens tho i hope lol
safe dragon
these days trains here almost never intersect with other forms of traffic
the few that remain tend to be quite old
steel kraken
pretty much every case of train automation I know of has a prerequisite grade seperation with everything else first
and is a factor of "metro" vs "railway"
and places that have both keep those tracks separated for the most part
safe dragon
it gets a little confusing here sometimes
when they intersect with other types of traffic they'll be trams though which are a lot slower obviously
cyan shadow
railway signalling is fun, though modern systems are starting to replace them wi...
I don't think line signals will be completely replaced by ETCS and CBTC, since they also serve as a good backup, but yeah, modern systems are very handy
safe dragon
I do remember there still being an intersection between train and cars/bikes in Utrecht
safe dragon
I don't think line signals will be completely replaced by ETCS and CBTC, since t...
redundancy is always nice for something that needs to be reliable
steel kraken
I don't think line signals will be completely replaced by ETCS and CBTC, since t...
In melbourne Australia the classical signals get turned off when CBTC is active and the new "metro tunnel" afaik is CBTC only operations.
though only a subset of the line actually has CBTC active and the train driver transitions to use the signals again outside of the CBTC region
cyan shadow
The Roosendaal-Essen route
How do I know this? My train was stopped on one of these crossings for like 2 hours before rolling back to Antwerp
cyan shadow
In melbourne Australia the classical signals get turned off when CBTC is active ...
Yeah, I've read about that
I'm not entirely sure how widespread that kind of adoption will be - more of a global north thing at any rate.
India still uses line signals, and that'll remain the case for a long time because of the sheer scale of the railway
steel kraken
so we have a suburban railway that for a small section is level 2 automated metro that transitions back to being manual operated, in addition to our tram network which is the largest in the world
cyan shadow
India still uses line signals, and that'll remain the case for a long time becau...
... Although India also still uses brakevans for redundancy, so make of that what you will
(Trains all have fitted brakes, the brakevans are for extra braking power, I guess.)
steel kraken
Yeah, I've read about that
I'm not entirely sure how widespread that kind of ado...
I'm assuming the entire electrified network will get it eventually, but the main issue is only the new trains actually have the CBTC stuff installed, and would need to get it retrofitted to the existing fleet, and we have freight trains and the occasional preserved steam train run on the network
cyan shadow
the old backwards lands of a few kilometers to the south of me
What do you mean "backwards" 
safe dragon
ancient train infrastructure
cyan shadow
You will be haunted by that cow
safe dragon
we'll move the cow first
cyan shadow
You move the cow? You move the cow like Miette? Jail!
Nah but seriously that trip was atrocious, I got home at like 4am instead of 11pm
safe dragon
You move the cow? You move the cow like Miette? Jail!
😌
warped adder
the few that remain tend to be quite old
...well, that's not how it works here!
devout vault
(shouldn’t semaphores be in concurrency classes)
(I'm not sure there was a dedicated concurrency class - and a big part of this was implementing those things on like a barebones linux kernel type thing, so you understood how they worked)
(Also included stuff like filesystems if I remember right)
modest jewel
I just learned about class libraries
safe dragon
they're very good for organizing your project
there is the far more cursed thing called a shared project which, instead of compiling as a separate library/assembly, compiles directly into the assembly of the project that uses it
safe dragon
oh no
cinder karma
I'm a bad person though
safe dragon
I have used one once
devout vault
there is the far more cursed thing called a shared project which, instead of com...
I abuse this property. 😛
My mod shared project has a Log class with a static field for the logger, and so every mod has its own copy with no extra work from me
devout vault
btw stackoverflow changed their comments UI
What? Stack overflow isn’t allowed to change, what were they thinking
If they’re gonna change something, they need to change the attitude / policies towards asking questions
supple ether
there is the far more cursed thing called a shared project which, instead of com...
There's something even more cursed: you can make a nuget package which directly adds loose cs files to your project.
(not a source generator)
safe dragon
There's something even more cursed: you can make a nuget package which directly ...
... what?
supple ether
Yeah I found a guide for it the other day
safe dragon
that sounds like forbidden knowledge
supple ether
The guide opens with something along the lines of "you can only do this by manually creating a nuspec file" which is how you know it's good
safe dragon
I haven't even looked at a nuspec file in idk how long
pliant snow
.avif is a nice format
pliant snow
on another note, I think it's becoming dire that I start doing some memory profiling on governor...
devout vault
pliant snow
I need to figure out the best way to profile a long-running python program, at least get an idea of what object is using all my memory
I'm trying tracemalloc now, it's... eh
Currently it's telling me the json decoder is the most... but I barely use json...
pliant snow
I wonder if its those pesky modders causing this
cinder karma
I've never had wild berry poptarts
devout vault
They tasty
cinder karma
Fun fact
I apparently got the Google AI so confused it showed me a video on how to make a push in git when I asked Google how to model a pullup resistor in verilog
(I knew there was syntax for it but I forgot how)
prisma flume
i didn't know you could find berry poptarts in the wild.
pliant snow
test
pliant snow
I liked the maya, I might switch back to it
I thought it looked like claire, but it is zoey, well done
prisma flume
i know the two characters look 99% identical but i was 99% sure it was claire
cinder karma
It's very hard to look at pop while on the stairmaster
devout vault
I mean
It’s very hard to survive on the stairmaster
Anyone willingly getting on one must be already be teetering over the precipice to insanity
cinder karma
I'm very insane
pliant snow
i know the two characters look 99% identical but i was 99% sure it was claire
should i go back to maya, i'll let you pick
pliant snow
very well
prisma flume
the spirits are calmed. all is as it should be 😌
pliant snow
bad news, im on trial for murder again
prisma flume
all is as it should be 😌
hardy jewel
@lusty steeple Hi, head to #1272025932932055121 
this channel isn’t for Stardew
safe dragon
safe dragon
hi why on earth does date parsing with the culture set to InvariantCulture use the American date ordering
I'd have assume an ISO standard interpretation
cinder karma
Americans are invarianr
safe dragon
(fixed a bug at work)
05-07-2024 was being interpreted as 7th of May
dumb
it's not like it uses American logic for the time cause InvariantCulture does use the 24 hour clock
0/10
cinder karma
Why does it take 2-3 business days to transfer money between banks 
safe dragon
it doesn't here
takes a minute
can do it at 4 am on a Sunday
huh
it's been a thing for ages but apparently as of January this year the EU actually mandates banks to accept instant transfers
from the 9th of October they'll also be required to offer instant transfers themselves (at no extra cost)
cinder karma
So here it Depends but the actual transfer doesnt true up for 2-3 business days
Like, when I transfer money from my normal bank to my brokerage, the brokerage actually will let me place trades with it immediately, but the money doesnt leave from my checking account for 2-3 days
dusty pollen
a lot of places still have warnings about that here but I've only rarely actually experienced it happening, and when it does my bank shows me the actual balance vs the "pending" balance after pending transactions are cleared
cinder karma
Yeah, that's every interbank transfer here
Unless it's two accounts at the same institution (instant) (and they keep buying each other so)
Some banks just let you "in effect" have the money early
worn remnant
Why does it take 2-3 business days to transfer money between banks <:SDVpufferth...
american exceptionalism at work
cinder karma
Pcb design...not safe for kids
safe dragon
definitely not
they might get into custom PCBs for mechanical keyboards
they'll be cursed to spend all savings on keyboards they won't use
sand frost
I thought making pcbs involved toaster ovens
cinder karma
Deep fryer actually
safe dragon
what the fuck
is nothing safe from AI
AI can't even use a keyboard this is ridiculous
(to be clear. This is on the landing page of keychron right there as headline marketing)
lethal walrus
it was either that, predictive text built into the keyboard or a chatbot that types for you - this is probably the least bad option
marble jewel
I wonder if AI liked how the Keychron felt to type on
frosty echo
I would probably agree with the AI. But I would also agree with it being ridiculous, as I think even people who do like using AI would agree that it isn't always right
fleet wren
what the fuck
“okay now show us the prompt”
marble jewel
As someone who owns like 8 Keychron keyboards, I do think they're the best bang for the buck, but I'm actually not using one anymore
AI knows...
👉 In short:
Typing on a Keychron feels solid, tactile, and responsive with a noticeable “mechanical” presence under your fingers. The exact sensation ranges from smooth and gliding (Reds) to bumpy and confirming (Browns) to clicky and snappy (Blues). The case and keycap material amplify this—plastic boards sound sharper and lighter, while aluminum-bodied ones give a deeper, more premium sound and firmer feedback.
On a semi-related note, now that I've built muscle memory on a split keyboard, regular keyboards feel wrong to me
cinder karma
worn remnant
On a semi-related note, now that I've built muscle memory on a split keyboard, r...
i have turned into an ortholinear person, which makes typing on a classic stagger keyboard (read: every keyboard) feel just awful
marble jewel
Oh god Razer BlackWidow was my first mech, and by today's standard I would hardly consider them a contender for best, let alone top 10
Razer BlackWidow are like the Beats headphones of mechs. Probably one of the most recognizable names, but not one for the true enthusiasts.
safe dragon
I started with a Ducky One
I do think keychron is probably one of the best prebuilt keyboards you can buy that isn't ridiculously priced
but the marketing...
marble jewel
i have turned into an ortholinear person, which makes typing on a classic stagge...
What's extra unfortunate is that I use my ortho/split at home, but a regular keyboard at work, so it makes me less effective at work. I was bringing my keyboard to/from the office everday, but it sort of became a chore to set it up everytime
I think I just need more ortho/split keyboards. I'm not addicted.
safe dragon
What's extra unfortunate is that I use my ortho/split at home, but a regular key...
I have two zsa moonlanders just to also have one at work
marble jewel
I love my ZSA Voyager
I use a Wooting at work, and their Mod Tap support is awful. When I do Home Row mods, it reverses the order of any key that has a secondary function.
Like s being alt makes it so that when I type test it outputs tets unless I slow down my typing
safe dragon
I have one of the original wootings partially cause it's a dutch company so it felt nice to do
never really liked it though
my keyboard journey:
Dell office keyboard -> Ducky One -> Wooting One -> Keychron K2V2 -> ZSA Moonlander -> Glove80 -> ZSA Moonlander
marble jewel
My journey was Black Widow, a few Keychron, Corsair Rapidfire, Wooting, and ZSA Voyager
fleet wren
my first mech keyboard is an ikbc, and even now I still recommend it as a brand with one of the best quality/price ratio
cinder karma
I paid $2 for a keyboard in 2020 and it broke my mind about how much a keyboard costs
crystal wren
My current keyboard is a Keychron with some random SA keycaps I found... somewhere I don't recall.
crystal wren
Taking membrane keyboard to another level, those.
safe dragon
if you want the polar opposite of a price competitive keyboard there's always just about anything produced by Norbauer
supple ether
3k and not even a numpad 
fleet wren
with that price I expect a personal handshake from the founder
supple ether
Who is this even for
safe dragon
to be fair. the creator themselves has said he does not consider it a good value proposition
a lot of this is high quality especially designed engineering invented for the creation of the keyboard
it's aiming for perfection at the cost of any sense
meanwhile it does not support QMK, ZMK, VIA or really any good way to customize it so it's essentially worthless to me
safe dragon
Who is this even for
collectors and enthusiasts. The same kinds of people who would spend a ridiculous amount of money on a really high end watch
worn remnant
i love when a keyboard runs QMK and you can just make it do whatever you want
safe dragon
there's no functional reason whatsoever to ever buy a grand seiko watch or a high end rolex or whatever but for some people just the craftmanship and engineering that went into it is worth the cost
of course this would not be bought by people who just want to have status/seem rich unlike a rolex or grand seiko
so not entirely the same
worn remnant
i completely understand where the norbauer is coming from: having a really high-quality device sparks joy for me, even if it doesn't make it "better" in terms of performance characteristics
however, the level of perfection chasing in this case is a bit too much for me
safe dragon
if I were rich this would be the kind of thing I'd buy
precision engineering
what is very disappointing about this is that he figured out a novel way of designing stabilizers for big keys like the spacebar but they patented it so no one else can use it
gotta wait for the patent to expire like we did for cherry mx switches
supple ether
however, the level of perfection chasing in this case is a bit too much for me
Yeah I think that's kind of the thing for me. I enjoy when I can have well-made things, but mostly that focus is on ease-of-use and longevity.
pliant snow
https://www.norbauer.co/products/the-seneca
The guy who made this just did a video with adam savage discussing it, it was interesting
cinder karma
My general rule of thumb is this: if I want something, I'll buy it cheaply. When it breaks, I'll consider a better version
This $2 keyboard has yet to die
Ie - I have a set of dirt cheap knitting needles ($20)
I also have, only in the sizes I use most, expensive Chiagoo knitting needles
safe dragon
I tend to buy goods on the higher end of prices
unless it's something I don't really care about but just need for whatever reason
then I just try to find a version of it somewhere that isn't some drop chipped shit from alibaba
cinder karma
The running theory is that
- If I dont end up using something, buying cheap was the right decision
- If I do, I will have more informed opinions after the first one breaks anyways
Like, my full set of knitting needles is very cheap
The sizes I use most are the ones I spent good money on
safe dragon
if money is your main concern that's a good way to go about it
I just don't want my money to be going to these cheap mass produced goods that are driving the actual quality versions out of the market so I tend to try and find those
supple ether
I'm perpetually broke so unless something is on a steep discount or the upper end of the price range is still affordable, I always buy cheap or used
cinder karma
then I just try to find a version of it somewhere that isn't some drop chipped s...
Oh, and I also dont have to worry about things being drop shipped from aliexpress if I'm just buying from taobao anyways
safe dragon
😌
thankfully a fulltime software dev salary when you're a single dude without pets leaves a fairly strong financial safety net
cinder karma
(You're also not American, lol)
The American system is.... you need to have your retirement fully funded before you retire, and the earlier you start the more compounding works in your favor
safe dragon
while investing extra in your retirement is definitely not a bad idea here, retirement is mostly something that's just part of your employment contract
if you're not a freelancer anyway
if you never had a job and never saved for retirement you'd have to live from the state pension which is less than minimum wage
oh never mind it's roughly minimum wage
wait no
ok yeah it's far less than fulltime minimum wage
marble jewel
I prioritize certain luxuries, like investing in a good bed earlier on in life will benefit you later on with better sleep and less back issues
Having a bed that just works isn't doing you any favors now or later on in life
Similarly, ergonomics can be important for things like keyboards if you spend a lot of your day typing
fleet wren
lol speaking of beds I coincidentally found this brand the other day that goes for no less than five figures
https://www.hastens.com/ca/
one of my fav pastime is looking at obscenely expensive stuff and imagining what it’s like to own them
safe dragon
like browsing through zillow
marble jewel
Some investments don't pay dividends in money, but through reduced pain or higher quality of life
If you subscribe to the belief that your time is finite, I'd rather enjoy certain pleasures while I'm younger and more capable
(That said I already do maximize my retirement investments, so all of this is coming from a privileged position that I'm able to do that while still splurging on things from time to time)
safe dragon
I haven't done anything for my retirement really
cinder karma
You're not an American
cinder karma
Fwiw, I dont find more expensive mattresses or more expensive desk chairs valuable
But also my posture isnt shit so
We were discussing this at work - i dont even use my backrest lol
marble jewel
How's your sleep quality?
cinder karma
Otoh, I both have a home gym and a gym membership so
(To be fair to me, the home gym costs <$100.)
cinder karma
How's your sleep quality?
Fine 😛
safe dragon
the real cost of a home gym for me would be making myself actually use it. So far every burst of enthusiasm I've had to exercise lasted at best a few months
at worst, a day
marble jewel
I have a home gym, and it took me 2 years to really get into the habit, but I'm pretty good about putting in my time now
safe dragon
what should i imagine when you say home gym
cinder karma
Adjustable dumbbells and a weight bench i got for free
marble jewel
I don't have space for a full gym so I use a cable-based system
But the one I chose is pretty versatile in that I can do full-body workouts
cinder karma
I need to make a deadlift platform still
safe dragon
I live in a small apartment to the point where my fridge doesn't fit in the kitchen and my desk is in the living room
cinder karma
For cardio I'm a full believer in good running shoes
safe dragon
I love walking but running is genuinely one of the most miserable things to do to me
marble jewel
Yeah, the room I have my "home gym" in isn't dedicated solely to that. I cram a few things in there including my 3d printer, a little wall-mounted desk, and some storage
safe dragon
not aided by the fact that like 9 months of the year I'd have to run in the dark
cinder karma
The other thing I should add is a pullup bar
Fwiw, my setup fits in about 6 feet by 4 feet
safe dragon
I don't have a free space that large lmao
cinder karma
(Not including 20 mile running trails, ofc)
marble jewel
They have pullup bars that work in door frames
safe dragon
I have one of those
cinder karma
Yeah if I wanted to break the door frame lol
safe dragon
yeah I stopped using it cause my door frames didn't seem to be a fan
marble jewel
P90X also gives you some resistance exercise options using only a door frame
cinder karma
My home gym preference is definitely adjustable dumbbells
One day when I have more space I'll get a barbell too
Until then basically all my leg workouts are done single leg because you can only load so much on a dumbbell
safe dragon
my exercise is mostly just regular walks not much else
cinder karma
(Hence the deadlift platform being next up.)
marble jewel
This is my home gym
cinder karma
Was the cat included
marble jewel
Yes, the cat is an important part
cinder karma
One brain cell
marble jewel
I don't have central heating, so every room has it's own electric heater in the wall
Which I mostly just turn off because I like my place to run cooler anyway
safe dragon
pretty sure central heating is required by law here for it to be legal to live there but I'm guessing the netherlands is a colder place than where you live
marble jewel
Yeah, I mean it does get below freezing here but only slightly
I lost power in the middle of winter for a week last year, and survived just fine with extra blankets
sand frost
Central heating is less common in older buildings in the US
Idk if Netherlands just decided to require retrofits?
safe dragon
oh definitely yeah
marble jewel
Any form of cooling is practically non-existent where I live which sucks in the summer
safe dragon
my apartment is from the 1950s
sand frost
Any form of cooling is practically non-existent where I live which sucks in the ...
Don’t you live in one of the few parts of the us where it isn’t absolutely miserable without AC? (PNW)
marble jewel
I get some days in the 90s where it's pretty insufferable
sand frost
I’ve spent summers a lot of places in the US and most of them are awful without AC, PNW has like a week of bad weather
safe dragon
often for stuff like this you're just not allowed to sell a home until you fit new requirements (like central heating or energy efficiency targets)
marble jewel
PNW is mostly fine for most of the year, but the 1 or 2 weeks where it's not are pretty awful
sand frost
I do agree that one week sucks but Maine has that level of bad for like 2 months
marble jewel
I mean I've lived in Texas and California, and both had more harsh summers, but I also had access to A/C so it was a non-issue
sand frost
It’s kind of astounding how different the same latitude on both coasts
safe dragon
PNW... pacific north west
sand frost
I don't think Boston without AC was bad
You must be built different lol
marble jewel
Like Texas had 100+ most days of Summer, and I barely noticed because I just stayed indoors
safe dragon
oh damn maybe that's not wrong
cinder karma
I'm pretty sure Duke also lacked AC at least once when I went for summer camp
And I was okay
safe dragon
AC used to pretty much not exists here and the government still begs us not to install it due to its environment impact but it's getting more common
cinder karma
Keep in mind this is nighttime
sand frost
They were sleeping in stairwells for a bit of relief
sand frost
There was no AC anywhere in Maine except one classroom building
safe dragon
my office has AC so that's nice
my uni definitely did not
universities aren't even open during the summer tho
at least ours
cinder karma
Yeah it's peak summer camp time tbh
sand frost
I don't think Boston without AC was bad
It also occurs to me this was a while ago, right?
Summers have gotten worse
sand frost
My students (south of Boston) without AC couldn’t sleep at night this past summer
safe dragon
summer camp to me sounds like a thing you send your 12 year old to cause you don't want to bring him on your holiday but presumably that's not what you mean considering this is about uni
cinder karma
(Or engineering summer camp)
sand frost
Nerd camp
cinder karma
Also for high school (and middle school) nerds
safe dragon
ah
cinder karma
My students (south of Boston) without AC couldn’t sleep at night this past summe...
Here is one worse
No AC. Chongqing. China. Summer
safe dragon
I did go to a study camp once when I was 17
sand frost
No AC. Chongqing. China. Summer
Awful
sand frost
Isn’t it humid there too?
cinder karma
I learned all of (American high school) calculus in three weeks at nerd camp
marble jewel
I remember going to a summer camp once, and somehow winning a pizza, but I don't remember what for
cinder karma
Yup
cinder karma
At a different camp we had the best brie and pear sandwiches
marble jewel
I think I drew a picture or something
safe dragon
all I remember from my study camp is the guys sneaking into the girls' sleeping area and hiding some girl's stuff
idk when we studied
dusty pollen
@pliant snow do you accept governor PRs
and can I write you a PR to add a feature that automatically repins the modded tech support rules every time they become unpinned
safe dragon
how does something become unpinned
dusty pollen
discord is stupid
and automatically closes ALL posts after a week, including pinned ones
which then unpins them
devout vault
discord is stupid
You know you probably could've stopped here
dusty pollen
except it isn't actually all posts btw it's super inconsistent and we've tried several times to figure out what the logic is and never did
safe dragon
incredible
dusty pollen
some posts stay open for months. some get auto closed. we don't know why
the rules post has unfortunately been fairly consistent at getting unpinned, when I was doing more tech support I would repin it once a week and at other times, other people try to, but often there's nobody who happens to catch it
safe dragon
it's me I close them
dusty pollen
wow you must be dedicated though
safe dragon
very
cinder karma
Did you guys know Nepal just elected their next leader via discord
crystal wren
some posts stay open for months. some get auto closed. we don't know why
I did notice a funny thing when I went to look just now...
The most recent post right now, set to the maximum possible.
Global for the channel as a whole... is this?
dusty pollen
I have no clue and will never have any clue
forums are more cursed than most discord stuff and that's saying something
crystal wren
I wonder if that inconsistency in the settings is causing weird things?
And for that matter what's setting the longer period on posts. Maybe Governor?
dusty pollen
And for that matter what's *setting* the longer period on posts. Maybe Governor?
yeah, that's my main question
I don't think the inconsistency would do anything because as you may have noticed if you tried matching them, there's actually no "don't ever automatically close the post" option 
pliant snow
What gets unpinned?
crystal wren
Not so much unpinned, but hidden for inactivity.
Because we're not allowed to set longer than a week, and being pinned does nothing to prevent it.
frosty echo
Hidden from where though? The channel list, or the forum post list?
crystal wren
Forum post list specifically. Which I know is weird, because the setting doesn't even read like it controls that.
So either it's inaccurate, or something else is unpinning it on occasion.
frosty echo
And I have seen pinned forum posts stay in the forum lists in other servers without any sign of them doing anything
What would be the point of pinning anything anyway if it only lasted a week
crystal wren
That's a sensible point, but Discord often doesn't see those.
terse galleon
in one of my other servers we were having an issue with permissions were users thought they could pin things and it would only show up in their view, not realizing it affected the entire server. could that be happening here?
dusty pollen
Not so much unpinned, but hidden for inactivity.
it actually does get fully unpinned in the process, annoyingly enough
dusty pollen
in one of my other servers we were having an issue with permissions were users t...
no, most users have no perms and it happens weekly
frosty echo
Ah, so maybe a bot unpinning and pinning it again every day or something would help?
dusty pollen
it doesn't get hidden btw, it gets thrown in the closed posts list
dusty pollen
Ah, so maybe a bot unpinning and pinning it again every day or something would h...
or just routinely checking if it's pinned and if not repinning, whichever of the two is more reliable
dusty pollen
What would be the point of pinning anything anyway if it only lasted a week
what's the point of having a pc-only feature where you can "reply" or "react" to pfps, and it gets sent as a DM with some automatic text... I stopped assuming discord logic makes sense
I was honestly shocked to realise they recently made a GOOD decision regarding permissions (and pinning, actually), where they finally separated pin perms from manage messages perms
...still no individual thread pin permissions, but we can dream
safe dragon
wouldn't want people to truly properly set permissions
prisma flume
stop talking about discord permissions while i'm trying to ignore discord permissions
wooden vector
what's the point of having a pc-only feature where you can "reply" or "react" to...
Discord is full of tiny dumb decisions (like "hey, here's some stuff you wanted ignored/blocked"). The sum total is pretty wild
devout vault
btw stackoverflow changed their comments UI
cinder karma
How goes crimes?
supple ether
I'm looking at the source for the translation class builder and I don't see any asset interaction in the code. the readme doesn't mention it either. the package targets file seems to have a related property in it, but as far as I can tell it's unused
devout vault
I'm looking at the source for the translation class builder and I don't see any ...
I'm just realizing you said "asset", not container
I was thinking of
<TranslationClassBuilder_AddGetByKey>true</TranslationClassBuilder_AddGetByKey>
(Used in satchels)
granite rampart
I'm in the process of converting my main PC to linux. Just curious what the Linux folks like to use as a development environment for SDV mods. Last time I used Linux I was all-in for emacs. I've used VSCode, but not really loved it. What's the debugging experience like? Do you get the same nifty decompiling stuff as in Windows+Visual Studio?
worn remnant
if you're comfortable with emacs i would just use emacs
granite rampart
Well, you'd need to have the context that I last used Emacs during the Reagan administration.
worn remnant
well, i'm sure it's still more or less the same, so there's that
if you want an IDE i think Rider is more or less the option
granite rampart
And editing is the easy part - what's tricky is autocomplete, intellisense, debugging integration, test integration. None of that was a thing back in the day.
I read that Rider was really tailored for web development.
worn remnant
And editing is the easy part - what's tricky is autocomplete, intellisense, debu...
and i don't use any of them now! (i'm a dinosaur)
you can have hot reload (which i do use) on linux with dotnet watch outside of an IDE but it's finicky
DH will tell you that Rider can do either hot reload or an attached debugger but not both at once. i wouldn't know
granite rampart
It's on par with Visual Studio there -- (VS won't let you do hot reload unless you launch the process from the IDE)
sand frost
Rider has been subjectively a perfectly fine drop in replacement for VS (after Microsoft killed it on Mac)
devout vault
Yeah, I found Rider to be much better than VS for Mac
VS for Mac felt like a cheap knock off that used the same branding to trick people into using it
steel kraken
VS for Mac makes slightly more sense under its previous name of xamarin studio
steel kraken
I dont remember the last time I had hot reload work, but I also have Just your code turned off among other things
devout vault
Everything errors, from the beginning of every file in that project
Lately it's also been crashing if I try to hot reload a function that is anywhere in the call stack
And like an hour ago it started doing this
I assume this is somehow related
steel kraken
clearly you need setup ContentCode to be doing JIT harmony patches to what you are currently working on
devout vault
Possibly related as well - when I have to restart VS (because sometimes when closing a program it will get stuck? and can't write to that DLL anymore - been an issue for years, unreliably) that project is unloaded entirely
It's very strange
Really annoying when I'm tweaking things to try and get it working
(This code isn't even actively running at the time, either - like, the DLL is obviously, but this function is definitely not in the call stack)
Already tried a "Build > Clean"
devout vault
Lately it's also been crashing if I try to hot reload a function that is anywher...
(And/or stop any new frames from rendering, despite it clearly running still based on when I pause it and step through and what not)
(But now I can't hot reload at all, so...)
cinder karma
Sorry, all development budget went to putting in chatgpr
steel kraken
I did setup vs2026 and have enjoyed the minor reskin
devout vault
I did setup vs2026 and have enjoyed the minor reskin
...you know, I've been getting this warning about my VS version being unsupported recently
Did they get made I ignored it and activate sabotage mode
(Oh wait, I did update that already)
(...maybe that has been causing some of the problems?)
steel kraken
I haven't tested to see if vs2026 can finally do the memory dump stuff again
devout vault
I guess I'll turn off my computer tonight and tomorrow see if the restart fixed my hot reload woes
cinder karma
I haven't watched the video but the still looks really cool!!!!
steel kraken
pretty much all of vs2022 couldn't and I had to go back to vs2019 to have a reliable memory dump experience
cinder karma
(Sorry. I have been nerdsniped)
I recall having memory analysis on stardew on vs2022
devout vault
I haven't watched the video but the still looks really cool!!!!
(Well, there shouldn't be a gap between that grass 😛 )
cinder karma
But I'm also dumb and old and dont recall
cinder karma
(Well, there shouldn't be a gap between that grass 😛 )
Well, according to everyone I know who has a yard, keeping the grass nice and neat is hard
Anyways
devout vault
Well, according to everyone I know who has a yard, keeping the grass nice and ne...
Guess I'll ship it
devout vault
Because of this and me being dumb when trying to do the backwoods map data in Tiled I didn't get to do the cool feature I had in mind to work on tonight
cinder karma
I'm really enjoying this YouTube channel I found
devout vault
My computer's only been on for a little less than four days this time, but if I'm lucky restarting will fix it
But that's tomorrow casey problem
Please just stop hating me VS
pine pagoda
I use copilot more and more at work bc there’s pressure to develop faster, and I’m sad because I prefer doing it all myself
safe dragon
red flag from the company's side...
but been there
being pressured to develop faster that is
also being told to try AI tools to be faster
ironically where I work now the security restrictions are so tight that I now can't use stuff like copilot
pliant snow
They gave us copilot keys a while back, but ive honestly turned it all off
marble jewel
Yeah, my company has granted everyone in Technology ChatGPT licenses while at the same time doing 10-20% reductions every year and expecting productivity levels to stay the same or rise. There is definitely an expectation that AI is what will make it happen.
And I won't discredit AI for areas it has made certain things more efficient, like summarizing emails and responding to them. But it's in actual engineering and deep thought that it isn't making much of a difference.
safe dragon
I used to feel like it did a lot for me but after a honeymoon period I just kinda stopped using it
marble jewel
My team is operating at less than half the capacity relative to when this all began. And it turns out 1 developer + AI != 2 developers
frosty echo
marble jewel
I used to have 12 people on my team, and now it's 5
safe dragon
fwiw the guy who worked here before me wrote a functional called "VerifyRemoteCertificate" and when I checked inside it was just return true
no AI necessary even for that
marble jewel
frosty echo
https://bsky.app/profile/spavel.bsky.social/post/3lyb43yppg22i
lol, that was exactly what I replied with when someone sent that ^ in another server.
marble jewel
To make matters worse, my company provides reports to leadership about how much everyone uses ChatGPT, and puts people into categories of high, low, none at all, etc.
And because I'm pretty self-sufficient, I was in the low category. I have to artificially do BS prompts so that I'm at least an average user.
safe dragon
you get judged if you don't use AI enough?
marble jewel
Yes
safe dragon
I will pray my current scenario persists for as long as possible
I decide what I work on that day myself, no one is haunting me about progress, everyone is happy with my productivity
no real deadlines
still surreal to me
I feel like my colleagues who've been here for like 20/30 years don't truly grasp how abnormal it is
marble jewel
I hope they don't actually look at what I'm using ChatGPT for because I just prompt it for random things for no reason
safe dragon
my confession is that I use chatgpt a fair bit as a javascript question machine
marble jewel
I ask it to rewrite my emails
safe dragon
googling javascript stuff is a genuine nightmare
marble jewel
Here's what I want to say, make it sound better
marble jewel
I'll also paste emails and ask it for what's important
safe dragon
"should I care"
pretty sure my security officer would beat me up if I told him I paste company emails into chatgpt
marble jewel
Since this is Enterprise, all data is supposed to be private to the company
Like I don't believe they're allowed to train on anything I submit
safe dragon
hmmm
marble jewel
Yeah, it says it on the footer "OpenAI doesn't use ____ ChatGPT Enterprise workspace data to train its models."
dusty pollen
Yes
"this writer is good but isn't opening the thesaurus enough so we must punish them" style thinking
safe dragon
for somethign completely different...
I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that I really love the windows terminal font (Cascadia Code)
I have it installed on linux...
marble jewel
I gave that one a shot, but I'm too used to FiraCode Nerd Font Mono
safe dragon
I like that one but it just ain't as good to me
marble jewel
Maybe I need to give it another shot
I recently started using Helix as my main code editor after seeing some discussions here, I've been liking it so far
Recently converted from NeoVim to Helix and tmux to zellij
cinder karma
googling javascript stuff is a genuine nightmare
I use it sometimes for python!
safe dragon
I've switched to helix as well and honestly after the initial hurdle i haven't had too much issues still using vim keybinds in visual studio alongside it
marble jewel
The language I use ChatGPT for the most is English, because otherwise I can come off as abrasive at times
safe dragon
I have a very stupid question though that I just have no figured out the solution to
there's a few situations in helix where you end up with multiple cursors like some bulk edits or stuff like space + h
but like
how tf do I go back to 1 cursor without grabbing my mouse and clicking somewhere
cinder karma
The language I use ChatGPT for the most is English, because otherwise I can come...
Luckily I'm mostly internal and internal can handle the snark
safe dragon
there's ; to cllapse each cursor to 1 character but you still have x number of cursors...
marble jewel
I'm still learning so I've been referring to this cheat sheet https://kapeli.com/cheat_sheets/Helix.docset/Contents/Resources/Documents/index
Maybe split selection on new lines and then keep primary
pliant snow
Its ,
safe dragon
it never registered to me that the cursors would be called selections
pliant snow
Ive kinda just settled back into neovim, although i stole some of helixs binding and plugin ideas
safe dragon
if that line had said Keep only the primary cursor I would've found it ages ago
I've been on this and other cheat sheet websites many times
marble jewel
I have been going back and forth since I still use VSCode for a lot of things, and the Neovim for VSCode extension is really good
safe dragon
I've been using helix for all web dev stuff and still visual studio for back end work
marble jewel
I do a lot of server admin stuff in the terminal so Helix has suited me well there
safe dragon
the bad syntax highlighting in svelte files has bothered me a fair bit
I've been tempted to build helix from source because it's actually fixed already in the main branch
with their release schedule the alternative is waiting till january
it breaks more than just syntax highlighting too
it might be worth compiling from source
or I need to figure out how to patch this specific PR
it might be possible
I think they're separate files
devout vault
How about no
devout vault
Let's see if VS still collapses trying to hot reload after a computer restart and VS update (the latter I did for a different issue - the C++ compiler was just dying on a macro with an internal compiler error)
It did, but, uh... I don't have nullable enabled
Oh that's probably just from a float? not having a value actually
devout vault
Seems like it'd be more pain than it's worth when working with a big codebase that doesn't use it either (SDV)
but that's getting dangerously on topic
devout vault
to be fair I've been too lazy to do it on new standalone projects too, but there's no excuse there
safe dragon
you just really like null reference exceptions
pliant snow
i need to figure out how to make the header bar on my stupid website bigger on mobile
this is not a mobile first web page
devout vault
Have you considered pretending mobile doesn’t exist
safe dragon
time for you to discover media queries
cinder karma
I think the last time I did something like that I did something very stupid
Like keying off the width of the page stupid
Note this was more than a decade ago
safe dragon
you'll be happy to know that's what media queries are and are still the standard
cinder karma
Isn't there a way to get like "is this a phone"
supple ether
Not with css
cinder karma
I was in a ducking Django site too so that was possible
safe dragon
nope
supple ether
The server can do it by reading the user agent string
cinder karma
Yeah. But I was the laziest and just did smth stupid with css
safe dragon
you do have a fancier option nowadays with container queries but even that still ultimately boils down to doing something based on the width. Just the width of a container instead of the viewport
supple ether
The server can do it by reading the user agent string
I mean tbf this is not how you're Supposed To Do It but nonetheless was fairly common in the early years
cinder karma
So if you made your screen tiny all the text and buttons got bigger
For little fat fingers you know
Anyways
supple ether
You can also use ems or rems in a lot of places which helps
cinder karma
<-- is not a web dev
supple ether
Also makes it more accessible for people who can't see well
cinder karma
<-- isnt a real dev anyways
safe dragon
for one application (I think the self checkout?) we had dynamic font sizes that would adjust to fill the given space instead
don't even remember how that worked but I think it was container queries
cinder karma
I also did a janky night mdoe that literally swapped out the css
The entire css
That i wrote by hand btw
supple ether
Why is everything a browser nowadays. Self checkout does not need to be electron /salt
safe dragon
don't worry this wasn't electron, it was just a legit full screened chrome browser
😌
supple ether
Brb getting free groceries via xss attack
safe dragon
the simple answer tho is that the options out there for non web UI are compartively quite shit
lmao well the self checkout was quite stupid (in a good way). It didn't handle any of the validation/verification logic itself
supple ether
IDK, there's a few options
safe dragon
though if you somehow gained access to a keyboard at the self checkout you could definitly pull some shenanigans
supple ether
Avalonia is popular in c# land, and I've been tinkering with Slint a bit lately and it's quite nice as well
safe dragon
I do want to try more UI frameworks
avalonia was never happening at that job because avalonia isn't owned by a gigantic mega corporation which made it too risky and scary
supple ether
Swift is xplat too I think though admittedly I know little about it
cinder karma
Swift is what
safe dragon
idk either atra
supple ether
Cross-platform
safe dragon
oh
cinder karma
Taylor Swift is but I wasn't aware Swift wasn't 🍎
safe dragon
only native ui frameworks I've really used beyond a toy project are WinForms and MAUI neither of which I'd recommend to anyone
supple ether
Oh yeah there's also qt and gtk
safe dragon
the classics
crystal wren
I remember when I toyed with the idea of attempting to integrate https://www.noesisengine.com into Stardew to make UI easier.
safe dragon
they use the word blazingly so you know it's modern
supple ether
Huh, hadn't heard of that before
safe dragon
seems to be for game UI which isn't exactly relevant to anything I build but it is neat
supple ether
Seems useful though. Game ui tends to be a big blind spot for both gui and game libs
Godot is like the only engine I've ever used that has half-decent gui tools
pliant snow
all of my text is just a set font size, which looks a bit goofy on mobile, but idk if i care enough to change it
supple ether
Which is crazy considering you can't make a modern game without it
pliant snow
I'll give the person who fixes it one whole level
supple ether
I can probably fix it
safe dragon
just slap in a media query changing some css stuff at a max-width of 768 px because everyone copies the arbitrary sizes bootstrap chose 200 years ago
pliant snow
hey now, my computer monitor in high school was 768px
I know there some... thing you can put into your header thats supposed to do something about mobile idk, but it always looks ugly as sin when I try it
safe dragon
a thing in your header that does something
crystal wren
I still like pretending mobile just doesn't exist.
safe dragon
I usually can
pliant snow
thats what im doing, and its working well
The browser mobile preview thing never seems to really reflect what it actually looks like, and I cant start a dev server on my phone so i havent been bothered
safe dragon
the web applications I develop for seem to almost always boil down to interacting with massive sized tables of data which is completely unusable on mobile regardless of what you try to do
so I can just always ignore mobile
tablets however
every once in a while we'd get a bug report because someone apparently somehow used our application on an ipad in safari and we never tested the thing in safari
it already barely worked on chrome and barely functioned on firefox
idk how they were even achieving anything on safari
devout vault
There was a different c# ui thing I was looking into at one point, besides Avalonia
crystal wren
Uno?
devout vault
Talked about it here, probably have it saved in my notes
safe dragon
WinForms
marble jewel
HTML+CSS?
safe dragon
FIgma
marble jewel
MS Word UI
safe dragon
microsoft access
devout vault
Actually my notes are phone accessible now, let me see if that’s one I moved over
…I never tested this
safe dragon
testing is for cowards
cinder karma
Tbh my obsidian auto sync is also borked
But I'm doing this for work so it needs to stay on work machines anyways so my give a ducks are low
safe dragon
I'd get hunted down by my security officer if I set up syncthing on my work laptop
cinder karma
My own notes are now in obsidian backed up to our local company gitlab
Crumble
Do I do anything personal now
Anything
safe dragon
yes
cinder karma
My personal notes are actually in my JournalIt
safe dragon
is the knitting for anyone else
I'm starting to realize I keep portraying the security officer at my job as a very violent dangerous man
he's a nice guy he just does his job
cinder karma
Oh the knitting
safe dragon
I'd never want to be a security officer or anything like that
your job is basically to annoy people with more restrictions and guidelines
cinder karma
Cutie
safe dragon
nearly 16 years old
safe dragon
her sister doesn't have quite as much of a baby face
devout vault
Tbh my obsidian auto sync is also borked
I’m using the git plugin on desktop, and a separate app on mobile.
steel kraken
your job is basically to annoy people with more restrictions and guidelines
To be fair, the great security people aren't there to annoy people, it's to make everyone more secure.
And nieve policies that just annoy everyone don't make them more secure because it pisses them off and find workarounds to keep doing their job
There was a great deviant talk on this
safe dragon
to be fair I think he does it well, the thing is that we are part of IT and IT has the most to actually do for security compliance
which often isn't fun work
steel kraken
A good amount of that talk would relate to IT security compliance, but a lot of ways companies implement their policies to address compliance stuff do it in a more aggressive way than is required, like computers locking after 60sec of idle or whatever
devout vault
A good amount of that talk would relate to IT security compliance, but a lot of ...
<insert hatred for requiring password changes every 3 months>
steel kraken
The standards don't specify a time interval just a vague phrase about "reasonable" or whatever
safe dragon
thankfully none of that for us
cinder karma
Hot take: yubikeys
devout vault
Those are the physical things right? No thanks
steel kraken
<insert hatred for requiring password changes every 3 months>
But I love adding known suffixes to my passwords.
One day I will finally migrate to appending the current quarter (Q2FY26) as that suffix also will naturally change every 90 days
safe dragon
most our more annoying compliance things come from the fact that we have to adhere to the security requirements of defence contracts
in a world where every company is trying to make you use a cloud service it gets quite annoying when you literally just are not allowed to
dusty pollen
But I love adding known suffixes to my passwords.
One day I will finally migrate...
new lifehack: salt your own password! sysadmins hate this one simple trick
safe dragon
I do have to change my password ever 3 months and I may or may not have a system for this
I think everyone does
honestly
you're not remembering your password change every 3 months if there's not some logic to it to rely on
steel kraken
That's why it's no longer best practice and Microsoft doesn't recommend it anymore
safe dragon
alas we do it
steel kraken
The fact that consumer Microsoft has gone the other direction and made accounts passwordless so there isn't a password to renew in the first place
safe dragon
I still don't like passkeys
ok that's not true
I don't dislike passkeys necessarily
I dislike that they don't seem to work in half the things I've tried it on
steel kraken
They are like passwords but are truly unguessable and can't be phished
safe dragon
I've tried to make passkeys in keepass work a few times on mobile but it just doesn't
steel kraken
And also more secure as the server can't do dumb storage on them either to have them leak
safe dragon
I think conceptually they're not bad
my experience with actually trying to use them so far however has been genuinely horrendous
steel kraken
I'm just annoyed it took them rebranding as passkey to catch on
steel kraken
I did get a yubikey a few weeks ago
cinder karma
Please hold
steel kraken
As my work is finally starting to retire it's fleet of hardware otp tokens
cinder karma
Checking to see if I'm real
safe dragon
I admittedly don't really understand what a yubikey is. Like I kinda do but I also don't
steel kraken
It's a USB drive that speaks fido2 and stores all the private keys (read: passkeys)
steel kraken
When you authenticate with a passkey you will get promoted if you want to use a security key, then select USB or whatever and then you get prompted to plug it in, enter the yubikey pin and then tap the fingerprint thing and then you are logged in and can unplug it
Same process can also happen over NFC instead for mobile
safe dragon
hmmm
steel kraken
You technically can leave it plugged in indefinitely but in theory shouldn't
safe dragon
I think I'm just too used to username/password authentication that this all just feels a little... outside my control
like with a password manager I have a database I can look at and if I want to move somewhere it's possible to just see what's in the password manager and move it over
but this just feels like 🌈 magic thing I'm now married to or I can no longer access anything 🌈
I assume there's some way to make backups
sand frost
What if I need to log in on a random computer? I’ve never understood how that works with passkeys bc I thought they were tied to the fingerprint sensor
safe dragon
I think for the non-yubikey scenario there's some qr code method
sand frost
I don’t trust qr codes
Maybe I’m just trained to be paranoid about the wrong things
I keep hearing about discord QR code scam tho
safe dragon
for a yubikey... idk. It feels like it'd be a security faux pas to plug your yubikey into someone else's computer
but maybe it's not for some reason
sand frost
I have to log in to so many things with my work login I have the secure randomly generated password memorized
safe dragon
it feels similar to putting your keepass file on someone else's computer you'd never do that
sand frost
I also feel like I’d lose a yubikey
safe dragon
there would need to be some way to back it up cause that thing isn't going to last for all of eternity even if you don't lose it
sand frost
Maybe if work stopped auto logging me out every 2 hours I’d be willing to not lose a tiny physical object
But I bet they won’t make that trade
safe dragon
ew auto logging you out
sand frost
All the time!! Even when I’m actively using things!!
I understand banks doing this
But my freaking work email??
steel kraken
What if I need to log in on a random computer? I’ve never understood how that wo...
As far as I can tell the fingerprint sensor doesn't remember fingers it's just there to detect physical presence (ie software can't automate it, a human needs to approve it in the real world)
sand frost
I choose to blame Microsoft
safe dragon
googling making yubikey backups jsut confuses me further
people saying you should put a yubikey in a safe somewhere
how am I going to keep the yubikey up to date with my logins if it's in a safe somewhere
steel kraken
You don't renew the passkeys every 90 days for a starter
safe dragon
well but there's a lot of accounts
every once in a while I'll make a new account somewhere
would I then have to hunt down every yubikey I own
and set them up one by one
idk I guess I don't really get it
maybe I shouldn't think of it as a replacement for password managers but just something you use only for your most crucial accounts
steel kraken
I wouldnt put stardew wiki on my yubikey for example
but the admins of stardew wiki should
cinder karma
Maybe if work stopped auto logging me out every 2 hours I’d be willing to not lo...
We just have them as Keychain
cinder karma
....I wonder if they will release new content
steel kraken
I think the beans focused enough
cinder karma
Hyperfocus you might say
JournalIt also has a time tracker which i like
Tells me how productive I've been
....how the fuck is overnight oats (the company) a thing
Overnight oats are the easiest thing to prepare
prisma flume
anything sells if you give it a name. first rule of marketing
i feel like i should be more invested in password security, but at the same time i only ever need to login on 2 devices tops, and if my work laptop catches fire i've accepted that i'll just have to spend a day of agony setting them all up again
somehow despite our work requiring that we use no fewer than 10 different logins, some with expiring passwords, i'm the only person in the office who actually uses a password manager with randomly-generated values and 2fa, and i guess everyone else just uses the same email-password for all of them. sometimes i wonder if i'm the crazy one
worn remnant
work passwords not expiring
finally-some-good-fucking-food.gif
prisma flume
w-woof
steel kraken
i feel like i should be more invested in password security, but at the same time...
speaking of password security, someone at work seems to have fucked up big time and started off a script that is deleting everyones lastpass vaults
worn remnant
that seems suboptimal
devout vault
...how
Please don't start hating me again, hot reload.
I didn't even edit that DLL
fleet wren
I see I missed the password talks
well I don't really have anything to contribute other than to brag that I have setup Tailscale to sync my PC/phone passwords remotely
cinder karma
Passwords are old school
Why dont we just authenticator ourselves by rapping to Hamilton instead
worn remnant
See what your name has wrought, ichor? You've misled atra!
i live to serve /lh
fleet wren
future authenticators will not use passwords but instead use the mountain of surveilance data they collected on you to determine if you're the correct person via browsing behavior
devout vault
but will somehow still show you completely uninteresting "targeted" ads
devout vault
Please don't start hating me again, hot reload.
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