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safe dragon
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I swear 6E just showed up

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almost none of my devices support it

marble jewel
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By the time they release WiFi 8, they'll decide the naming convention is too simple and understandable, and call it WiFi alpha-gamma or something

crystal wren
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It's not the USB consortium, so we might be okay.

safe dragon
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nah they'll just make it meaningless and make 80% of its featureset optional

ivory shadow
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6E is just wifi 6 with less constraints on the spectrum it's allowed to use.

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7 is a pretty significant upgrade in functionality thanks to Multi-Link Operation (aka MLO). Put simply, your device can connect to and use multiple bands simultaneously

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So instead of only using 2.4GHz or 5GHz/6GHz, you can use both at once. Faster. More reliable.

marble jewel
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I just wish I could upgrade the wifi on some of my devices, my 3d printer's wifi is horrible

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I bought a separate router just to have in the same room as my printer so that it works more reliably

ivory shadow
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lol

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I have absolutely set up single APs for specific devices before

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Notably, for my backup generator. And my parents' backup generator.

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But in both cases those are far away from the house on the opposite side of a detached garage, so the signal is basically non-existant from the normal APs.

marble jewel
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My printer just gets confused by anything that's not 2.4G wifi

safe dragon
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my ereader doesn't support 5 GHz either

fleet wren
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(not wifi but network shenanigans nonetheless) my PC currently has the issue where the ethernet card randomly dies with a "PCIe link lost" and some stack trace vomit in the hardware logs. it happens like once every other week; not often enough to be debuggable but still enough to be supremely annoying when it happens
no solutions on google works for me, aside from a bash script that disconnects and reconnects the PCIe interface

safe dragon
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it just needs a break sometimes

marble jewel
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Have you tried turning it off and on again? /s

safe dragon
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I hate that it's one of the most effective solutions

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why figure out the core issue when a reboot works

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like our server that needed to restart every once in a while or it would suddenly stop working

fleet wren
ivory shadow
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It is nice how you can actually do that in Linux.

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That sounds like something that'd take a reboot in Windows, lol

crystal wren
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Speaking of Windows and networking, I love how Windows still needs to reboot to change the hostname.

fleet wren
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that sounds annoying for Windows Server users (not that there's any right)

ivory shadow
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Speaking of Windows and servers, how about the inetpub folder? lol Needing to create an empty folder with admin permissions to prevent malware from making the folder to take over IIS is pretty interesting.

fleet wren
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I heard about that. as someone who shipped stupid solutions that work before I can relate, but still

ivory shadow
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I can relate too. Though... if they can't prevent malware from installing IIS then I'm not sure how they're preventing malware from modifying a folder with system permissions.

ivory shadow
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Well, here's another reason for me to not recommend Synology anything to anyone.

crystal wren
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...oh, well that's incredibly disappointing.

red crest
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as someone who is largely ignorant about brands for these sorts of things and looked at synology once upon a time, what are the other reasons?

ivory shadow
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The hardware is underwhelming for the price. You're pretty much paying for their software.

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And that isn't necessarily a bad thing, but there are other NAS OSes that just keep getting better and friendlier.

red crest
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fair enough! if i ever actually seriously consider a purchase of somethin ill do my due diligence, i just often saw synology used/mentioned and wasnt sure what id missed

safe dragon
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what

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I didn't even know synology had first party hdds

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wow this is stupid

ivory shadow
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They went full HP. Never go full HP.

safe dragon
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I guess they decided to do some free marketing for their competitors

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what are their competitors anyway

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QNAP?

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just a mini pc running truenas or something

crystal wren
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That one Asus spinoff?

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Do... Netgear do NAS stuff anymore?

safe dragon
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asustor or something

safe dragon
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it has never failed again since being moved

ivory shadow
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I'm impatiently waiting for the Minisforum N5.

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Was shown off at CES this year, but no release date or price yet.

safe dragon
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knowing CES there's like a 20% chance it ever releases

marble jewel
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I haven't been to a CES since like 2012. I need to go back someday.

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The last one I went to, I remember it was the year of the 3D TVs, everyone had one on display. I'm glad that trend died out.

cinder karma
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What is a 3d tv

lethal walrus
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like a 3ds but really big and one screen

cinder karma
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What's a 3ds

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Bash, meanwhile, only has a single collection type

pliant snow
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Like a 3d tv but really small and two screens

marble jewel
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At least from 2012 the tech that 3D TVs used involved glasses which would filter out every other image for each eye so that it could create the illusion of depth by displaying a slightly different image to each eye.

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Active 3D had powered glasses that would block out the image, and passive tech used polarization to show different images

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It was just a more advanced form of the old blue/red lenses that 3D movies used

cinder karma
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What's 2012

marble jewel
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The end of the world, apparently

cinder karma
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I wonder if you can do 3d movie with polarized light

marble jewel
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3d tech has actually resurfaced again more recently, now using technology that doesn't even require glasses and apparently is more convincing

lethal walrus
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how can downloading intellij community edition be so confusing this is impressive

marble jewel
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Downloading for Windows, or other?

lethal walrus
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linux

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OH you have to go the other versions

marble jewel
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They do support snap installation on Linux if you just want a cli one-liner

lethal walrus
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ah

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just got the tar.gz

marble jewel
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sudo snap install intellij-idea-community --classic

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Or on Windows winget install JetBrains.IntelliJIDEA.Community

lethal walrus
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yep got community edition now

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im sure this will be a great experience while gephi is hogging most of my cpu calculating forces

ivory shadow
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I should probably install dev tools on my laptop now, before I actually need them and have to waste time setting them up later.

marble jewel
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Look at you being nice to future Khloe

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I'm always mean to future LeFauxMatt, all the problems are his not mine

cinder karma
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Am I mean to future atra?

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Future atra better appreciate this body tbh

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It's being kept in excellent working condition

ivory shadow
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Actually, I am going to be mean to tomorrow Khloe. Make her do it after the new wifi card comes in.

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Downloading a bunch of stuff sounds annoying

cinder karma
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Go play final fantasy the actual final one

ivory shadow
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I do have FFXIV raids in half an hour

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I don't wanna go people were playing so bad yesterday we didn't even reclear the fight we cleared last week in one night.

cinder karma
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I don't know how video games work at even the most basic level anymore but šŸ«‚

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That sucks I'm sorry

ivory shadow
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In summary: FFXIV has harder content called savage difficulty. A few weeks ago four new fights released. You can't progress to the next fight unless you've cleared the previous fight, and each week your progress is reset. The group of friends I play with has cleared the first fight after spending about two hours in it, and then we moved on to the second fight last week. But we ran out of the time we schedule for it.

Coming back this week, we spent two hours on that first fight again yesterday, and didn't even beat it because people were just playing terribly. It's a very frustrating feeling since it's very possible we just won't make any progress at all this week. I don't want to dedicate two nights a week to this for literally months, but if people keep it up, that's what I'm facing.

supple ether
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apparently you can put ref parameters in constructors

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I see no reason why that shouldn't be the case but it still feels mega cursed

cinder karma
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Why does it feel mega cursed? (serious)

supple ether
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I'm not entirely sure. I think because I usually think of constructors as not having side-effects

ivory shadow
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ref parameters are kind of cursed in general

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Useful. Something I'm glad to have. But mildly cursed.

supple ether
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Ref returns are the most cursed

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It's very fun to do things like DoThing() = value;

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Useful, though

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You can also do ref fields on structs but I'm not entirely sure how to use those

ivory shadow
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Makes me think of Harmony's field ref helpers.

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I still haven't ever used those because they just seem too spooky lol

devout vault
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References are one of reasons Iā€™m not happy with simply extension properties but feel like extension fields are important too

cinder karma
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Do ref properties work

devout vault
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I don't think so? I'm pretty you can't do ref instance.SomeProperty at least

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I am once again watching the Kirby Air Riders teaser.

I wonder how much money it would take to bribe Sakurai into making a trailer /s

safe dragon
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database are magical things

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you give it some seemingly bizarre query and get ready for it to take ages only to then have a result in 0.02 seconds...

then you write a fairly simple query (or so you think) and it takes 20 seconds

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so you gotta dive into the query plan and see why it isn't using the index you were expecting

cinder karma
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O.o!!!

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safe dragon
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I've never needed it so far but it's cool

ivory shadow
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New wifi card is here and installed. Wow do I still hate those little antenna wire connectors

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But speeds instantly went from like 40-50 Mbps to 500

pliant snow
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...and you had the framework provided one you say...

ivory shadow
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Yeah, the old one was the AMD RZ616 aka the Mediatek MT7922

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But YMMV anyways. I expect it's a Linux drivers thing.

pliant snow
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I imagine thats the one i have. What did you replace it with?

ivory shadow
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Intel AX210

safe dragon
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well I suppose I should hope the RZ717 was some massive improvement

terse galleon
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any tips for navigating to my SDV mods folder via terminal

strange copper
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you need to cd to the directory. the terminal line should start with your current file location, which is probably a home or root directory of some kind. A shortcut is to just go to your mods folder in the file browser, then (at least on windows), right click and open a terminal from that directory

terse galleon
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that pulls it up in windows powershell--should i use that, or should i be using the git software that tutorial instructs me to download?

strange copper
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you should be able to use git from windows powershell, although personally i do everything in git bash because i like it more

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if you have git bash installed (i install it with git by checking the box), just right click in file explorer -> show more options -> open git bash here

terse galleon
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aha! thank you

supple ether
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Or you can just type cmd in the file path box to open the normal command line in whatever folder you're currently in

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A third option is to open cmd with Run, use ctrl-right-click on the folder, and select "copy as path", then do cd and paste in the copied path

terse galleon
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thank you!

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i got overwhelmed and gave up for now though :P

analog charm
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Personally, I would recommend using WSL if you have a windows machine, but don't strictly need to work in a windows environment. Its definitely all doable with either windows or wsl, but git on windows is a bit more effort later on if you need to set up ssh or gpg for it. You can always try one after the other though!

strange copper
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i think going down the WSL rabbithole is probably not what they need rn but i have nothing against wsl

fleet wren
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just use linux raah /s~

terse galleon
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the sum of my experience with computers is two computer science classes at college, one of which i dropped halfway through kjsdhkjsfdh

rain apex
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git bash is basically linux in terms of the commands names anwyays

analog charm
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sure, nothing against doing it on windows, just keep the wsl option in your back pocket until and or if you want it SDVpufferthumbsup

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just suggesting keeping the option there because setting up ssh and gpg (which tbh might not even be something you end up needing) is more finnicky with git bash

cinder karma
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Tbh at this point in my life I assume I can just type markdown to format shit and get unpleasantly surprised when that doesn't work, Onenote

dusty pollen
devout vault
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WYSIWYG šŸ˜°

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Always turned that off in every editor that supported it, hated the few where you couldn't

safe dragon
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I donā€™t want to see what I get

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get it out of here

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go back to text

pliant snow
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isn't just text WYSIWYG

devout vault
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True. Guess I'll have to write everything using a hex editor from now one (unless I'm writing hex numbers, in which case that's also WYSIWYG so I'd need to move to editing things in binary... and if I need binary numbers, well, I better learn how to do it directly on the RAM transistors or whatever)

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More seriously, I'd prefer some sort of live end-result preview on the side of the plain text editor in a split plane or something. It's sorta the best of both

pliant snow
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all the ones I tried for neovim were a bit of a hassle tbh

safe dragon
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I believe they're pretty good in vscode for websites at least

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considering the html/css/js renderer is basically already there included

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for markdown there's stuff like obsidian I suppose

marble jewel
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I've been stubbornly using vim keybindings for the last few weeks until I git gud, and it's felt like typing behind my back

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I'm using VSVim in Visual Studio, the neovim plugin in VSCode, and vim on my servers

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I can navigate around mostly fine, but I'm still not down with the motions to make anything more efficient

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Obsidian allows you to enable vim keybindings, but I had to turn that off after a week or so of trying. It just doesn't translate well for me.

safe dragon
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I use it in everything

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aquo can attest I quit vim twice though

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before it finally stuck

marble jewel
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I haven't quit, but I'm just dealing with the part where I'm a lot slower still

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Like I wanted to swap two lines of code with each other, and found myself fumbling a lot to do that efficiently

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I tried asking ChatGPT after the fact how could I have done that most efficiently, and it gave me non-working answers, so still not sure the best way to go about certain tasks

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It's first answer was basically to have me retyping everything one character at a time, so I tried nudging it in a direction of "how about if I use dd and p" but it still didn't give me the motions to navigate to different parts of the line where I needed to fix things

safe dragon
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uh Iā€™d just dd one of the lines and then p/P depending on whether I want to put it before or after the line I have left

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I donā€™t tend to try to be fancy

marble jewel
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I also needed to swap out a comma for a ) on both lines, so that was just extra movement I had to accomplish, where a mouse would've just had me click and replace

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I was just trying to think through the task and then practice it a few times until it felt more comfortable

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Do you find yourself using visual mode a lot?

safe dragon
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visual mode, no, basically never. Visual block move I use very often

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primarily to move a bunch of lines together or to change all of their indentation (with < or >)

marble jewel
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I also have my editor setup with relative line numbers to help me navigate up/down more efficiently

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cinder karma
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(Fwiw on Actual Vim, just set mouse mode on.)

safe dragon
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Iā€™ll be honest I just go up and down line by line like a pleb

marble jewel
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I mean, I'm allowed to use a mouse in vscode, but I'm trying to force myself to do things in a vim way

cinder karma
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I'm getting better at insane find and replace commands

safe dragon
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obviously I do use jumps quite a lot to jump to methods or classes or whatever but thatā€™s outside of the vim stuff

marble jewel
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I also setup my browsers with the vim-c extension so my browsing is using vim keybindings too

safe dragon
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Iā€™ve been slowly but surely using find and replace commands moreā€¦

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I thought Iā€™d never use it

cinder karma
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Tbh I'm actually quite good with sed hilariously

marble jewel
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You got any examples of some of your most used/useful shortcuts?

safe dragon
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uh in visual studio CTRL T is like 90% of my navigation summarized

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for vertical movement within a file I either j k or just scroll with a mouse

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horizontal is a mix of w/b for word based movement through the line and sometimes f or t

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I rarely do anything fancy

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Iā€™m not trying to minimize keystrokes or anything

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apart from that

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all the ciw, diā€, ci( etc are probably my most used

marble jewel
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I need to do more w and b movement, I do a lot of h and l when those would be faster

safe dragon
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change inner word, delete within apostrophes, change within parentheses

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I pretty much donā€™t use h and l. When I move so little that those make sense I tend to just use the arrow keys since they also work in insert mode

marble jewel
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I sort of shot myself in the foot with my key mapping, which I know I can change at any time, but I'm using home row mods so I lose being able to hold down my home row keys for repeating them

safe dragon
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I do use h and l for my window manager keybindings

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to move windows

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but not in vim

marble jewel
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So my navigation is tap-tapping instead of holding

safe dragon
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ah the tap tap

marble jewel
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I tried to make tap+hold perform the original key, but that makes everything less reliable

safe dragon
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that drove me nuts when I tried it so I got rid of any key where I had a difference between hold and tap

marble jewel
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I've gotten pretty efficient at the home row mods at this point, fine-tuned the timing so it doesn't get in the way

pliant snow
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xp to swap two characters

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The indentation ones I use a lot

marble jewel
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Also got this thing going on in a layer, where I'm forcing myself to use vim navigation

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safe dragon
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I used to have my tab thumb cluster key be a windows key when held thinking Iā€™d never hold tab anyway and then I played minecraft and kept opening the app launcher

pliant snow
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For moving around tho, I use Hop/Easymotion constantly

marble jewel
safe dragon
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unfortunately hop/easymotion are not a thing in most vim mimic plugins

marble jewel
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I have a whole layer just for minecraft/gaming

pliant snow
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No. x cuts the character under the cursor, and then p pastes it back in, which would now be after the second character

marble jewel
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Ah swap two in place, I see

safe dragon
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x just deletes the character under your cursor. Since that character is gone your cursor moves forwards to the next character. p then pastes it after the character your cursor is on..

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I never swap 2 letters tho

marble jewel
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I feel like there's power in the whole stack or whatever where delete gets saved to

safe dragon
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fortunately I am not dyslexic

pliant snow
pliant snow
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I do use "0 and "+ a lot tho

safe dragon
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visual studioā€™s plugin just does normal vim stuff but it doesnā€™t have anything that would normally be a plugin

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I literally never use the registers

marble jewel
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The neovim extension for vscode actually defers everything to the real neovim behind the scenes, so most things work

safe dragon
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ymmv

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I feel like I should be using the registers but they just make no sense whatsoever to my head so I never have

pliant snow
safe dragon
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beyond whatever the fuck the one is that p grabs from

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vscode definitely has a vastly better vim plugin implementation than visual studio

pliant snow
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I think p actually uses "", which I never manipulate myself

marble jewel
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I'm using LazyVim which is preconfigured with enable/disable for vscode

pliant snow
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is LazyVim one of those that pre-installs like 150 random plugins

safe dragon
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yeah

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love those

pliant snow
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yuck

safe dragon
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good way to learn whatā€™s out there at all

devout vault
supple ether
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Honestly with mods it kind of is

devout vault
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True

safe dragon
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95% of people would quit before they even have an lsp functioning if they had to set up their neovim themselves the very first time they ever use neovim

marble jewel
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With minecraft, I have some modding concerns for using things like Litematica

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Although, I've converted a lot of those to my stream deck

devout vault
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<glances at krobus minecraft thread where I'm toying with the idea of making minecraft mods again>

marble jewel
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Kirby-inspired Minecraft mods?

devout vault
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re: vim, one thing I use that I haven't seen mentioned is 0 for jumping to the beginning of the current line and $ for going to the end

safe dragon
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oh yes I do use those

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also gg and G

devout vault
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But I haven't used vim in ages either, so...

supple ether
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I've had a few mods projects for minecraft but I haven't done much with them because java is a pain and gradle takes forever

devout vault
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Never got super good at it, but probably better than the average person (not that that's saying much)

marble jewel
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I try to use ^ and $

safe dragon
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what does ^ do

pliant snow
marble jewel
pliant snow
safe dragon
supple ether
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That makes sense though, it's the same as regex

safe dragon
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that does make sense

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and i should use that instead of 0 and then w

marble jewel
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Although with my layer, home and end are easy for me to get to

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So that's probably more efficient for me since my fingers don't have to travel as far away from the home row

devout vault
# marble jewel Kirby-inspired Minecraft mods?

No, though I am at this moment KAR brainrotting again thinking about how the original game had a notoriously short dev time (most of it in 3.5mo from what I remember to meet a deadline after a couple failed game iterations in the same dev cycle, I assume they reused a few assets from previous iterations though), and what that implies for a sequel with a full development cycle

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My pipe dream is a mode with an open world adventure mode / campaign (kinda similar to new mario kart I guess?), which I have quite literally had actual dreams about multiple times

safe dragon
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when I first got into vim I wanted to be like people who know all sorts of fancy combinations of vim keystrokes to do shit that would normally take a lot more effort but eventually I just settled on only using pretty much the most basic shit it has to offer.

Sometimes something new slips in anyway though. Iā€™ve been using recorded macros with q more and more

marble jewel
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Open world all the things!

devout vault
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Flashback to that one time I toyed around with making KAR vehicles in a Minecraft mod (not sure how that would work well in a block based world though...)

supple ether
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I only use it for git and ssh tbh

marble jewel
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Imagine karts that use the same physics as boats on ice

devout vault
safe dragon
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perhaps someday I will use the git cli and become a real programmer

devout vault
pliant snow
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sweet summer child

safe dragon
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thatā€™s about the bare minimum vim lets you do

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so much more is possibleā€¦

pliant snow
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I rebind...

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lets see

safe dragon
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since my custom keyboard I donā€™t even rebind switching to normal mode anymore

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I have no rebinds whatsoever

pliant snow
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45 keybinds in Neovim, but only 32 when in VSCode

marble jewel
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It seems like a big part of the appeal of vim as your editor is the fact that you can customize just about anything

safe dragon
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yeah

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itā€™s not quite emacs but you can do a lot

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helix might finally get a scripting system in a few months

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helix went the emacs route and the scripting is done with a lisp language

marble jewel
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I'm not sure how customized I plan to make things, which is why I'm fine starting off with an opinionated setup so that I can get a feel for how it works

safe dragon
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and the little window that pops up with your options is nice

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I use a funky combination of vim keybinds and visual studio keybinds

pliant snow
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Some of my keybinds are opinionated/for plugins but I do have some I think are pretty solid for just vanilla vim

safe dragon
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like even in visual studio I use gd for go to definition instead of a visual studio keybind but for finding references I use visual studioā€™s keybind

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Iā€™m very inconsistent

marble jewel
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In VSVim, do you mouse to move between files, or are you using keyboard shortcuts?

pliant snow
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my router has been having lots of issues lately, it just kinda craps out sometimes

pliant snow
devout vault
# supple ether I've had a few mods projects for minecraft but I haven't done much with them bec...

Yeah, the whole "using Java" thing is the main thing holding me back at the moment. I tried looking for C#-to-Java tools (which would also require Java-to-C# to some extent so you could link against external stuff, ie. MC itself) but couldn't find anything really usable.

The closest I found was this: https://github.com/spaceflint7/bluebonnet/blob/master/USAGE.md
But it's for Java 8 (which would limit me to MC 1.16.x I think?), and says .Net Framework and may not build with .Net Core. Then there's also the question of if it would even work for my use case, given it seems to be designed for android usage.

I also found something called IKVM, which is a JVM written in C# that allows both JVM-based and .Net-based languages to interact with each other. But it's also Java 8, and seemingly doesn't work with Minecraft (specifically when modded) according to one issue on github. There's a fork I found which claims to work, but still Java 8

safe dragon
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my biggest wish for the visual studio vim plugin is to have at least a basic 2 character jump like sneak/hop

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those are so nice

devout vault
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Also, an IKVM concern is that anyone using the mod would have to use IKVM. A converter like the one I linked would compile it to actual Java, so a normal JVM could run the mod

safe dragon
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if youā€™re forced to restrict yourself to .NET Framework I donā€™t think thereā€™s much value in it anyway

devout vault
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Yeah

marble jewel
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Like vimc on firefox/chrome let's me use a shortcut to jump to a tab or even open a new page from history/bookmarks by typing a few characters and hitting enter. Is there something like that in VSVim?

devout vault
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I wonder how much work it would be to get the converter working for modern .Net AND modern Java...

safe dragon
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whatā€™s vimcā€¦

marble jewel
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extensions that adds vim keybindings to the browser

safe dragon
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oh no

devout vault
marble jewel
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Sorry, it's vimium c

devout vault
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Vim... for a web browser? Sounds cursed

marble jewel
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It actually works pretty well

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It can nav up/down, select links, select text input

safe dragon
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Iā€™m sure if I actually spent time on it I would find out the vim plugins and the likes I use can do like 500 times more things than I do with it

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instead I touch only my little comfortable set of things I know how to do

marble jewel
safe dragon
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thatā€™s like hop/sneak

pliant snow
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its kinda like that

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I used that plugin for a while too

cinder karma
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I feel like 90% of the time I'm on my laptop on chrome I'm on my email, my calendar, or....my bank's website

safe dragon
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by far my biggest pet peeve when it comes to visual studio extensions that theyā€™re fucking impossible to find because you end up on vscode extensions instead

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i fuckin wish you could use vscode extensions on visual studio

marble jewel
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Yeah Microsoft made it really difficult with their naming

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Like the "Visual Studio" part of VSCode has no signifigance imo

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I tried making a VSextension last year for my custom language server / syntax highlighter thing and I couldn't get it to work. At. All.

VSCode was fine though

safe dragon
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considering the vim extension for visual studio doesnā€™t receive updates and hasnā€™t seen a single commit in over a year Iā€™m just waiting for it to break someday and I am just fucked or have to move to the visual studio code extension

supple ether
safe dragon
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I was already worried it would be the end of vim in visual studio for me when vs2022 released but then someone released a VsVim 2022 extension and I was saved

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but that hasnā€™t seen a single update in over a year either now

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someday I will be out of luck

marble jewel
safe dragon
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forced to switch to vscode or rider to have my vim keybinds

marble jewel
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I wish I could switch back to Rider, but my experience is always cursed

safe dragon
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I love the C# language but I feel like I cursed myself out of using editors I actually want to use

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I might've used Rider even on windows back when modding if I could've just figured out a way to have the class members drop down thing like VS has

dusty pollen
safe dragon
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I desperately tried omnicron or whatever the fuck the community made lsp is for C# but it did not work at all on any of my work projects and even on a toy hello world template it barely seemed to function

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This thing (edited version of a stolen screenshot from google)

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safe dragon
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ah those dropdowns I have never used in my life

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they do seem useful to be fair

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I just forget they exist

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ctrl T my beloved

marble jewel
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Rider has something to that effect, but it's in the sidebar

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I am one of those people that sometimes puts way too many things in one file, so I love it

marble jewel
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That's what I was used to using before I switched back to VS

safe dragon
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rider has a bunch of fantastic keybinds to navigate to methods or classes

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What does Ctrl-T do?

dusty pollen
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marble jewel
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Maybe it's time for me to reformat my computer so that Rider will work again on a clean Windows install until it stops again. I swear, I've run into the same issue a few times now.

safe dragon
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there are specific keybinds for methods and the likes too but I just use ctrl t

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Most recent of the 'way too many things in a single file' that I can think of

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(Dangerously close to on topic, but I'm not talking about the on topic aspects so it should be fine)

marble jewel
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Monolithic

safe dragon
marble jewel
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I'll reinstall it every few months just to see if my issues persist, and last I checked that was still the case. I'm unable to debug+hot reload no matter what I do

safe dragon
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Iā€™ve seen so much worse than 1200 lines

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Iā€™ve seen over 30,000

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marble jewel
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I can release and hot reload without debugging, or do debugging without hot reload, but the combination just doesn't work for me, and it's been a mystery for years

safe dragon
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become a blazor dev and just give up on hot reload in general

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or maui

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that works too

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(It was a big C++ project, and none of the files were small - the average file put even my largest files to shame)

safe dragon
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or better said, doesnā€™t work either

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I want to say I had it happen sometimes even with windows/VS, which is where my workaround using dotnet watch for hotreload came from (still no debugger, but I can print debug at least)

marble jewel
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The thing is, I've had to do a clean windows installation twice since I started modding, and both times fixed Rider for awhile, so I don't know what I'm doing that brings the issue back

safe dragon
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shouldā€™ve seen our code behind file of the cash registerā€™s FormMain.vb. Over 30,000 lines long and a completely incoherent mess that started with like 100+ boolean global variables to control the cash register state

marble jewel
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It's why I want my windows deployment to be scripted mostly so that I can just decide to start over every now and again to get things fresh

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marble jewel
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It's probably my sign that I should just do less on Windows

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I wonder if I'd have a better time modding on Linux as my main

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I'm not sure if my hp reverb g2 even works now thanks to the WMR thing. I had it installed before they removed it, but I think I recall people saying it stopped working after windows 24h2.

safe dragon
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luckily I have no idea what windows mixed reality was or what the hp reverb g2 is

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Don't want a quest 3 either (mainly because meta)

safe dragon
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sounds like a funky AR thing

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Yeah, WMR was the VR/AR system for windows. Some headsets required it, including the one I mentioned

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Maybe some pople have reverse engineered a workaround by now

marble jewel
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I had the Samsung Odyssey HMD WMR

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I still do, not sure what I should do with it tbh

safe dragon
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Iā€™ve still never tried vr

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Iā€™ve had opportunities to but still havenā€™t

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I might enjoy it if I wasn't so out of shape. I also wanted to try making games for it, but the constantly putting headset on/off annoyed me too much.

Maybe if I had a headset where I could do mixed reality with my keyboard/mouse still showing...

Or, alternatively, the Lynx MR headset that I wanted but couldn't afford at the time and now they don't make for consumers

marble jewel
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I can't do VR involving a lot of simulated movment, it gives me instant nausea

crystal wren
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I had a Quest 3. I returned a Quest 3!

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My dad gets motion sick really easy (like, one time he played a superhero MMORPG on his desktop and got motion sick while playing)

safe dragon
marble jewel
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I do have the Meta Quest 3, and it works well enough for me for light gaming and such

crystal wren
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If the controller tracking didn't completely fall apart from higher difficulty Beat Saber, I'd still have it.

safe dragon
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I want to try VR but on the other hand I have genuinely no idea what I would possibly do with the thing after the wow factor wears off

marble jewel
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There are factors that make it better or worse, like the refresh rate makes a huge difference

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Any sudden lag can make me sick

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Like even for half a second, it just makes me dizzy

crystal wren
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You should (not) have seen what happened when I attempted the wireless PCVR connection with it, then.

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marble jewel
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So my old WMR headset is probably just a paperweight at this point

safe dragon
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a really inconvenient paperweight

crystal wren
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# marble jewel I can't do VR involving a lot of simulated movment, it gives me instant nausea

You know, I was recently thinking about playing Minecraft with a headset but still using my mouse and keyboard, since it seems like that could be a nice compromise (especially for modded MC, so many new keybinds). I think Vivecraft even has a mode for that, but I'm unsure if you could really make the mouse work properly in that situation (like, your mouse is for aiming, and headset is for looking, but at the same time you would need to use your mouse for turning which would also move your head... kinda confuses me on if there's any good solution)

marble jewel
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I couldn't bring myself to throw it away before, but at this point I just might

safe dragon
marble jewel
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In games that require fluid motion, I need to use the teleport feature to make them stomachable

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marble jewel
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I can't use a controller to move around, it also makes me sick

crystal wren
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(Minecraft in VR is genuinely pretty cool, though.)

safe dragon
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VR is kinda doomed to novelty experiences and a few niche games it seems

marble jewel
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I feel like the best games that are well-suited for VR haven't been made yet

crystal wren
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Which sucks, because there are a few genres that I love that VR is absolutely the perfect way to play them in.

supple ether
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I enjoyed vrchat a lot back in the day

crystal wren
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Those being shooters (though my mood for those is rare), and Myst-likes.

supple ether
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I think chatrooms are genuinely one of the best applications for vr

marble jewel
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I'll always refer back to Black & White, it felt like a game that wanted to be VR, but the tech didn't exist at the time

safe dragon
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the god game?

crystal wren
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Definitely are! Also just not my thing. Chatrooms, that is.

marble jewel
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Yeah, Lionhead Studios god game

crystal wren
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Black & White was so good.

dusty pollen
marble jewel
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Imagine instead of your mouse pretending to be your hand, you can just use your hand in space

crystal wren
safe dragon
supple ether
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One of these days I'm going to resurrect my quest and fiddle around with resonite

marble jewel
safe dragon
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I loved black and white so much as a kid

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safe dragon
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I remember accidentally being considered evil one time and I panicked and quit cause I felt bad

marble jewel
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I did find instructions for reinstalling B&W to play on modern pcs

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I got it mostly working too, and with ultrawide support

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marble jewel
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There are a lot of fan patches you have to install

marble jewel
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There was also this I'm kinda interested in: https://www.viture.com/product/viture-pro-xr-glasses

But not for VR games or anything. It's purely so I could play my steam deck in bed without having to hold the device up over my head using my weak noodle arms. Bonus points if I connect my joycons and use one for each hand so I can have my arms at my sides, too.

VITURE Pro XR Glasses | VITURE: Next Gen XR Glasses

Experience the ultimate XR glasses: 2D to 3D, 135" private display, 120Hz UltraClarityā„¢, 4000 nits brightness, myopia adjustments, and SGS A+ eye comfort for work, gaming, and streaming.

safe dragon
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as a kid and even today I canā€™t bring myself to do anything except the nice options in any game with choices

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marble jewel
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There's a low-tech version of this that simply uses mirrors

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"it's not real, don't you want to see what happens"
if I see my virtual friendo cry from a decision I made knowing it wasn't nice, I will close the game, destroy my computer, and cry in bed for 20 hours

safe dragon
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the most evil Iā€™ve ever been was doing a high chaos playthrough of dishonored but even then I felt bad about killing guards so I still opted not to

marble jewel
safe dragon
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goofiest looking things

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(if it's a decision that turns out worse than it sounded from the option, well, I'll roll back my save. Or just not play that sort of game)

marble jewel
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From their product page

102e2ac6-df37-492c-a57d-9265e7a152af.__CR00339339_PT0_SX300_V1___.jpg
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Things not having a good option where things turn out well is why I couldn't get into Witcher 3

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marble jewel
safe dragon
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what if Iā€™m not lazy

marble jewel
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Not for you

safe dragon
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damn

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I'd be interested in the so-called full-dive VR (Sword Art Online, more recently Shangri-La Frontier, plenty of other fictional works as well of course), but like I've talked about in this channel before:

  • I don't expect it to be invented (if possible at all) in my lifetime.
  • I don't expect it to be possible without invasive tech physically touching my brain.
  • I know too much about software to trust anything directly effecting my brain or body
marble jewel
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Are you saying you don't want a neuralink?

rain apex
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the SLF full dive VR is pretty sweet

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  1. no murder
  2. you use it on your bed
  3. if you are extra u can get gamer full dive VR chair
safe dragon
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the vr gamer chair better have rgb even though I canā€™t see it

rain apex
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that'll be 100 more dollars

marble jewel
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I think you're legally not allowed to call something gamer unless it has rgb

safe dragon
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full dive vr is definitely one of those things where from a technical perspective itā€™d be a phenomenal and really cool technologyā€¦ And from a practical real world perspective itā€™d probably be one of the most dystopian inventions Iā€™d ever see

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If I had a genie wish (with no monkeys paw like twists) but was restricted to things that wouldn't make the world outright better (or basically any restrictions that would keep me from using my more selfless wishes)... safe, non-invasive full dive VR that was commonly accessible for the average person (both playing and developing for) would definitely be one of my top choices

crystal wren
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And I would thank you for that wish. SDVkrobusgiggle

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rain apex
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something i enjoy about the SLF world building is that

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people made trashfire games for full dive VR

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just bc tech is amazing doesn't mean all software on it is good kyuuchan_run

safe dragon
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Iā€™ve learnt my lessonā€¦ I remember excitedly following the progression in this new up and coming field of text prediction AIā€¦ and a brand new model GPT2 that could just barely convincingly write a paragraph that wasnā€™t complete bollocks which I thought was really cool

marble jewel
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Also technology that makes your body get into shape while you're mostly sedentary, and also it supplies you with nutrition

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Because that's not a Black Mirror episode

crystal wren
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Okay, LeFauxMatrix. SDVkrobusgiggle

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safe dragon
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they werenā€™t fit and that was the entire dystopia of course

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rain apex
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||oh i thought it was implied, i.e. actual rig vs dinky gaming laptop||

marble jewel
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I wouldn't mind technology where all the food stuff that's good for me just get piped right into a tube, while I get to eat the enjoyable food and it just goes into a bag or something

safe dragon
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tfw your full dive reality lags cause of poor optimization or you glitch through a floor and physically experience falling into the void

marble jewel
rain apex
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one of the games in SLF is like, full dive smash bros melee

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rain apex
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with buggy physics DokkanStare

safe dragon
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the biggest fantasy part of SAO was that the game released in a mostly bug-free state

crystal wren
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(I appreciate these spoilers, because if it's anything like SAO, I might be interested!)

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rain apex
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it's not rly like SAO plot wise bolbthinking

safe dragon
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I missed something by ranting about things what is that screenshot of

rain apex
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basically it's anime form of watching a really good streamer play games

safe dragon
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whatā€™s slf

rain apex
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shangri la frontier

safe dragon
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oh yes I watched season 1 of thatā€¦ at least most of it

rain apex
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it has this wabbit

safe dragon
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it does

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safe dragon
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I do appreciate SLF for being a more realistic representation of gaming than these anime usually are

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safe dragon
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I think while SLF aired there was simultaneously a show called gamers or something which ironically was less good at representing gamers than SLF

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I kinda want to rewatch SLF now...

marble jewel
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I'll have to queue that up next. The latest series I've gotten into is Pyscho Pass

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If the manga was finished I'd probably binge that to finish the story, but even the web novel isn't finished. (>900 chapters though only halfish are translated)

safe dragon
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gamers in anime usually means one of 3 things

  1. they play monster hunter and are good at it
  2. the anime was sponsored by an esports industry of choice
  3. the creators have never played a game before and are doing the equivalent of a csi show hacking scene but for gaming
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marble jewel
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I'm liking it so far, I'm over halfway through the first season

safe dragon
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oh no is SLF a web novel

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is it also on syosetsu with seemingly all the other ones

rain apex
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yea did the full title not tip you off

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No idea what it's on. It's web novel -> manga -> anime (no light novel)

safe dragon
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it is on syosetsu

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damn

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What's bad about that?

safe dragon
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that means itā€™s free

rain apex
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ć‚·ćƒ£ćƒ³ć‚°ćƒŖćƒ©ćƒ»ćƒ•ćƒ­ćƒ³ćƒ†ć‚£ć‚¢ļ½žć‚Æć‚½ć‚²ćƒ¼ćƒćƒ³ć‚æćƒ¼ć€ē„žć‚²ćƒ¼ć«ęŒ‘ć¾ć‚“ćØ恙ļ½ž

safe dragon
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ah yes thatā€™s a web novel title if Iā€™ve ever seen one

rain apex
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they r the "put plot summary in title for SEO reasons" platform

safe dragon
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There's two full dive MMO series on webtoon I started recently, World's Strongest Troll and Bad Ending Maker.

Though the latter is kinda weird, I noticed in the first couple episodes and later scenes that it looks more like standard headsets like today, but the gameplay is clearly more flexible than controllers would allow

rain apex
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its basically like royal road and stuff

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but publishers pick up things for paper release from there and evetually anime

safe dragon
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I kinda love syosetsu cause you can read it as normal fuckin text instead of all those damn ereader web apps that block you from selecting text which makes them horrible to use for language learning

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fuck you bookwalker, kobo, kindleā€¦

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# rain apex they r the "put plot summary in title for SEO reasons" platform

Hot take: I actually like those sort of titles since it tells me more about if I'll be potentially interested without having to go and look for details on that specific show.

Example from an anime that put out an episode today: Teogonia
What the heck is that supposed to be? I suppose you could at least guess it's fantasy-adjacent...

safe dragon
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at least kobo and kindle you can uhā€¦ remove the DRM and then load them into something better

rain apex
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i do actually like the kinda graphic design ppl get up to in order to fit all this title

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safe dragon
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to be fair. Japanese makes is way easier usually to fit a long sentence on a book cover since you can put it vertically (and itā€™s a more compact language in the first place)

rain apex
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# rain apex its basically like royal road and stuff

I still haven't ventured onto royal road but I've heard about it from the progression fantasy and litrpg subreddits. Still several things I need to get around to reading (including a few which are only there)...

rain apex
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ēµ‚ęœ«ćŖć«ć—ć¦ć¾ć™ć‹? åæ™ć—恄恧恙恋? ę•‘ć£ć¦ć‚‚ć‚‰ć£ć¦ć„ć„ć§ć™ć‹?

cinder karma
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A chue knows japanese?

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Damm

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I'm behind in my language

safe dragon
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rain apex
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well i know chinese so i automatically know like 30% of japanese kyuuchan_run

safe dragon
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might get fucked over by some false friends

rain apex
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and unfortunately i watched enough anime to understand a little spoken japanese (this is terrible cus i notice dubtitles now)

rain apex
safe dragon
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what would that mean in chinese

rain apex
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big husband

safe dragon
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ā€¦ I guess that makes sense

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safe dragon
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the third character in 大äøˆå¤« does mean husband even in japanese normally

rain apex
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i watched the anime and i ws just confused

safe dragon
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夫婦 means husband and wife

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why did I never notice the last character in 大äøˆå¤« is the character for husband

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why does that even mean what it means

rain apex
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tbh they might have ported it backwards

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ik baka/馬é¹æ is like that

safe dragon
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and åÆæåø(sushi)

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the characters were picked for pronunciation not cause they make sense

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Turns out VR gaming chairs do exist. šŸ˜›
https://www.amazon.com/VR-Simulator-Machine-Virtual-Reality/dp/B0DJCYGV97
It even goes upside down!

(I assume it's mainly for things like flight sims)

VR 360 Degree Simulator Machine Virtual Reality Motion Space Chair ...

Max Loading Weight Capacity: 100-500kg
Allowable Passenger: <5
Seat: 360 Ā° motion chair
VR headset: Deepoon E3
Games: 19pcs
Game Type: Roller Coaster, Shooting
Special Effects: Wind Blowing
Chair: Artificial leather Seat
Screen: 32inch HD LED Screen
Features: Shooting + 360Ā° Rotating
Wo...

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Title result: VR 360 Degree Simulator Machine Virtual Reality Motion Space Chair Cinema |

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It seems to have RGB (or at least fancy lights), good enough for you Crumble?

safe dragon
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oh yes thatā€™s perfect

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gives off strong aliexpress scam energy

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what on earht is the deepoon e3 vr headset

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even stronger scam energy

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On the product description it has wind blowing special effects

safe dragon
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the deepoon e3 does seem to actually exist

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special effects: wind blowing

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peak

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Just what I wanted in my flight sim, feeling the wind (my cockpit doesn't have glass, and somehow there's air in space, don't ask)

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(I assume it's more for roller coaster type stuff)

safe dragon
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fuckin destroy me with fierce winds as I run into a tornado in a game

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I'm sure it would be totally realistic for a flight sim in space in other ways too. After all, don't you feel the gravity pulling you downwards when you're upside down in space? Who needs zero gravity

sand frost
rain apex
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it's ok

strange copper
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"it's ok"

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o

rain apex
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no problem

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actually no problem is literally 問锌ćŖ恄

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so 大äøˆå¤« is just im good

ivory shadow
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This reminds me, I still need to finish season 2 of SLF.

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I stopped after this season's big multi-episode fight cause I got busy with stuff and haven't picked it back up yet.

marble jewel
pliant snow
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I think that's like the old Sneak plugin from Vim, yeah

marble jewel
safe dragon
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this f is also not bound to your current line it seems

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Iā€™m a big fan of sneak style movement but I canā€™t use it like 95% of the time cause I use visual studio

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though Iā€™ll likely be shifting focus to frontend development sometime soon which means I will leave visual studio land

marble jewel
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I wonder how viable vscode is as a C# option nowadays

safe dragon
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I believe itā€™s a lot better now?

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I havenā€™t really tried it

marble jewel
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Yeah, Microsoft has been updating the tooling. Seems like at least on MacOS they're trying to nudge people towards it.

safe dragon
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it has to be a lot better than omnisharp was cause that was genuinely unusable

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honestly if itā€™s good enough I might abandon visual studio

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Iā€™ll accept having to open it when doing a few things that uses visual studio specific tooling

marble jewel
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Seems odd going to an Electron-based editor, but then again VS is pretty darn bloated as it is

safe dragon
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I mostly just want something with a good thriving extension system

marble jewel
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In that regard, VSCode seems to be the one getting more interesting extensions/updates

safe dragon
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far more

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visual studio has almost nothing

marble jewel
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It feels like a relic

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I mean that's generally why I've preferred Jetbrains IDEs in the past because they feel more modern, and tend to have a better extension ecosystem

safe dragon
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I do like jetbrains editors though the new design confuses me cause I donā€™t know where things are

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I donā€™t get those from work rn tho

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I thought Iā€™d miss resharper at least but honestly I havenā€™t

marble jewel
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I still have Rider for work because I switched to a Macbook and do a bit of C# dev every now and again

safe dragon
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perhaps resharper was never worth the performance hit in the first placeā€¦

crystal wren
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Rider basically is ReSharper the IDE, really.

marble jewel
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At home, mostly for SDV modding, I'm using VS and Resharper

crystal wren
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Yeah, that hot reload issue is so weird.

safe dragon
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for all I know I will barely be writing C# for a few months soon as I build a frontend to the api Iā€™ve spent the last 6 months setting up

marble jewel
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I'm really considering trying to make Linux my daily driver for some time just to see how much I miss certain things

crystal wren
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I've very recently moved back over to Linux as my main. Haven't touched SMAPI yet, but I am worried about the hot reload not working in debug here again...

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Or hell, debug not working at all in Rider.

marble jewel
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Windows will still be my gaming pc, but for everything else I do, I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference

safe dragon
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the only time I ever missed windows in the last few years in personal usage has been for photo editing software

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darktable/rawtherapee are good enough for what I need but they arenā€™t as refined of an experience as something like lightroom

marble jewel
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Oh are you not able to debug+hot reload on linux in Rider?

safe dragon
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uh Iā€™ve used it fine

crystal wren
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Even just debugging doesn't work (with SMAPI) for me in Linux last I tried.

marble jewel
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(for SDV modding in particular)

safe dragon
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oh

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yeah idk then

marble jewel
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Why is SDV modding so different

crystal wren
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Lemme give it a shot now...

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It must be something SMAPI is doing, but I have no idea what.

marble jewel
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Was it the debug symbols thing?

crystal wren
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Not sure, but I'll be trying that.

marble jewel
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I suppose I could also dock my Macbook and try to use that as my daily driver too

safe dragon
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someday I will experience MacOS

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my only opinion on it is that it looks pretty when I see somehow swoop around between windows with some nice animations

marble jewel
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It's annoying going back and forth between mac and non-mac and getting used to different modifiers for things like copy and paste

crystal wren
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I have. I hate that to copy/paste I need to press what is essentially alt instead of ctrl.

safe dragon
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I thought alt was option not cmd

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Iā€™m on an ipad rn and I always get confused what these keys are

crystal wren
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I don't remember the names of the key in the position, but it was the one closest to space, not further to the left.

marble jewel
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Also their silliness with the touchpad vs mouse scroll direction

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On my personal macbook I can install software to fix it, but on my work one it's just backwards

safe dragon
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perhaps the strangest thing about my ipad keyboard is that it has a dedicated key for typing Ā§ and Ā±. Two characters I have never needed before

marble jewel
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Wait, what? That's not on mine

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Is that a particular layout?

safe dragon
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I believe itā€™s the UK apple layout

crystal wren
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The magic keyboard?

safe dragon
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.img uk apple keyboard layout

heavy daggerBOT
safe dragon
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no not that

crystal wren
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Yeah, that's the UK layout...

image.png
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So weird.

safe dragon
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that

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yes

crystal wren
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Why on earth is `~ to the left of Z?!

safe dragon
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oh welcome to iso layouts

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donā€™t look at the enter

crystal wren
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But it's to the left of 1 on a UK layout!

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And \| is to the left of Z.

marble jewel
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That's a strange layout...

safe dragon
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I got this ipad and keyboard secondhand so I had no choice but to get a UK layout despite not being in the UK

crystal wren
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This is not a standard UK layout, this is bonkers.

safe dragon
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itā€™s apple specific I believe

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itā€™s odd

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mine is a logitech one

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but it does seem to follow this funky apple layout

marble jewel
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My Magic Keyboard looks mostly standard

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Also I remap my caps lock to be the escape key

safe dragon
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standard ANSI other than the apple modifier keys and the language button

crystal wren
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\| is a little shorter, too.

safe dragon
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still bigger than it is on this ipad keyboard

marble jewel
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Such a strange enter key

safe dragon
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Iā€™m not a fan of it but Iā€™ve gotten used to it at this point

marble jewel
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I don't understand what versatility a two-row enter key would offer

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My pinky doesn't go there, so it may as well be another key if I'm going to stretch for it anyway

safe dragon
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me neither. Thankfull the netherlands seems to opt for ANSI layouts like 50% of the time. Itā€™s basically a gamble

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we thankfully donā€™t need keys that arenā€™t found on a US keyboard

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certainly makes things more convenient

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we do still have to use some software trickery though through dead keys

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to type stuff like Ć«

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which in dutch only serve to clarify pronunciation and arenā€™t considered their own letters

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just accent markers on a normal vowel

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plenty people (including me) are often lazy and omit the accent markers

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I donā€™t even have the dutch language input installed on my work computer which I think says enough

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dead keys are a pain in the ass when programming

crystal wren
marble jewel
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Darn, so if I wanted to use Rider again, a clean windows install might be my only option

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Is MacOS a viable option nowadays?

crystal wren
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It's also possible it might be fine for you. I mean things do work fine for me on Windows where it doesn't for you, so... maybe worth a try?

rain apex
crystal wren
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It does, but Rider's just doesn't.

rain apex
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Is your bug ticket still open

marble jewel
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Trying to use VSCode is becoming more tempting

rain apex
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Can u get the c# dev kit on codium

crystal wren
rain apex
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I imagine it can't rly stop u from just installing vsix right

marble jewel
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"Yup it's broken. Anyway...."

safe dragon
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my favorite

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priority 1

pliant snow
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marble jewel
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If you can install third party software, there are some good options

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marble jewel
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I've got a hundred problems to solve on my todo list, but only the energy to take on one of them a week or so

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So I still get to complain about 99 other things

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If I were the kind of person to actually fix my problems, even just the ones that are reasonably possible to be fixed short term, I wouldnā€™t be, wellā€¦ gestures broadly at my life

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<insert animaniacs song about US state capitols and/or countries, but listing all my problems instead>

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(Not that Iā€™ve ever watched the show, but Iā€™ve heard/seen enough about those from The Internetā„¢ļø)

marble jewel
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My tabs are a testament to how many good-intentioned things I have backlogged which I can't get around to quickly enough

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There's like a tab per todo item

devout vault
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Oh boy, are we talking about browser tabs?

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Let me go find the browser extension I installed specifically for these conversations

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Not the worst it's been

marble jewel
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I've been on the Waterbery bandwagon, but recently made the switch back to Tree Style Tabs because of an issue where Waterbery is not registering an accurate drag target

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It's offset by a few pixels which messes up my rearranging of tabs

devout vault
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Waterbery?

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Google isn't being very helpful

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I used tree style tabs ages ago.

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Like, 15 years ago? šŸ˜›

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I've thought about it lately but the way I keep two windows split on a 4k monitor (with system zoom set to 150%) means there isn't really enough horizontal space for me to like that

marble jewel
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I can't do without my vertical tabs, but I will use a hotkey to show/hide it sometimes

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With vimum-C I don't really need to see the tabs to get around

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I think I just came up with my best idea for a keyboard+mouse layout

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cinder karma
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I feel like I've stopped being a tabs everywhere person

marble jewel
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Sleeping tabs is what allows me to handle them to irresponsibly

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If tab memory were still a concern, I might be more thoughtful about them

cinder karma
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I mean like but what tabs do you have open

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Now that I've been cut off from having free and ready access to scientific articles I'm....blank

marble jewel
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For me, tabs are kind of like an inbox of sorts. Each tab is something I intend to do more with at some point.

cinder karma
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A boring person

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Recipes? Stocks to buy?

marble jewel
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It might be a topic I'm researching, a piece of software I want to implement or learn more about

marble jewel
cinder karma
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Looking at the stock market nine million times today despite the fact that it's good Friday?

marble jewel
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The answer is all of the above

devout vault
marble jewel
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What browser do you use?

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marble jewel
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Hmm.. I'm using a firefox derivative, and I find sleeping tabs does a good enough job at unloading tabs

devout vault
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shrugs

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Maybe tab counter or another extension is interfering?

marble jewel
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Maybe Floorp adds more functionality

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Do you have this?

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devout vault
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My extensions (in order of importantance, descending): Tabby Cat, UBlock Origin, Reddit Enhancement Suite, LeechBlock NG (haven't used that much lately due to abundance of free time), Tab Counter Plus

devout vault
cinder karma
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Tabby cat?

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It's basically a page override for new tabs. It's gives you a randomly generated animated cat.

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When it first came out it was only for chrome, and I had install it on chrome and then point firefox to the new tab webpage inside the chrome installation as my new tab page

marble jewel
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On the main general section

devout vault
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...tabby cat has other animals now? Huh. Not interested, but neat

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I could've sworn there was a way to generate a permanent link to a particular tabby cat to share with others. Can't figure out how though

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No idea how the snapshot button works, didn't seem to do anything

cinder karma
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Ah, okay. I'm attached to the usual landing page

devout vault
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I don't even remember what the normal page looks like

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It's been so long. Tabby Cat Forever

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I like the kittens that show up with some toys.

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If a kitten shows with the rocket, the rocket will be flying with a kitten riding it

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(I also happened to get one of the rare pages that cycles both the cat and background through the rainbow for this picture)

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cinder karma
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Little boxes to your most commonly used websites

devout vault
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And yeah it's animated

cinder karma
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And because I'm predictable

devout vault
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Ah, fair

rain apex
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one day i should remake the note taking extension i had

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it was a thing that made your new tab a text box

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and the notes u take r sync'd between devices

devout vault
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I'd probably install more new tab pages if I could have it randomly pick one

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It'd be neat to have browser themes be randomly chosen between new windows, too

cinder karma
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Like. Ssh on my phone to view markdown text files

marble jewel
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But where is your Tabby KAR?

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frosty echo
devout vault
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Amazing

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I only ever get cats, did I turn the others off and forget, or am I on an old version, or what

frosty echo
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You can choose random on the animal page

devout vault
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...the what page?

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My tabs just have a 'screenshot' button and the toy box

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Going by the last updated date I have the right version...

frosty echo
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Home icon at the top left

devout vault
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I don't care about new animals much but what if I'm missing new toys!

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There is no such icon

marble jewel
frosty echo
devout vault
# marble jewel Do you have this?

Forgot to reply to this - no results for 'sleeping' or 'sleep', searching for tabs doesn't show it either.

Searching for tabs does show the option that looks like the one above your sleeping tabs option, but the one below doesn't match what I have either

marble jewel
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I'm very practical about most things, I don't do a lot of cute/fun things

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Ah, it must be a Floorp thing then

devout vault
# frosty echo

Huh. Literally does not exist for me, in addition to the bottom right one

frosty echo
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3.0.0 I have

cinder karma
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I also used to sleep tabs but now I just don't really have that many open tbh

devout vault
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3.0.0? My version was 0.9.99resigned1 or something when I checked

lethal walrus
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Ah, chrome version is 3.0.0, but also not updated as recently

marble jewel
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I never switched from the default options, so mine is set to 318 minutes. I should probably reduce that.

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The one tab feature that hasn't really made sense to me is Containers, but I don't think I've ever used them right

devout vault
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...the firefox version's page doesn't mention other animals. I wonder if the two versions are different. The last name of the authors are different

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Kitten literally kneading dough? šŸ„ŗ

devout vault
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Maybe I could make a custom version that has tabby cat in the background?

frosty echo
devout vault
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I've gotten those before

marble jewel
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It is open sourced and easily customizable. I'm sure it's possible.

devout vault
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When I first discovered tabby cat I literally just say and opened new tabs for a while ("a while" - a few minutes, probably)

frosty echo
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I can see this leading to "why did I open a tab again?" SDVkrobusgiggle

marble jewel
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The way I use my new tabs page is basically a web apps launcher

marble jewel
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"why did I open a tab again? oh yeah, that's why!" meow

devout vault
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"oops, I accidentally pavlov'd myself into opening new tabs for no reason for my kitty serotonin fix"

pliant snow
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Alright, I'm getting this wifi chip, I shall report back

ivory shadow
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I wish good wifi upon you.

devout vault
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That sounds like an alternate universe wishes for a good holiday season.

Or alternatively, some at least somewhat dystopian time in the future where understanding of technology is lost but somehow still working, and so people worship some of the fantastical ones (if almost instant communication across the planet doesnā€™t count I donā€™t know what does).

ivory shadow
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Since hotel wifi is usually never great but if it's a convention? Especially a nerdy convention? RIP

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The AGDQ hotel used to have some terrible wifi

dusty pollen
ivory shadow
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As a tech priest I use Lay on Hands to fix IT problems (aka I walk into the room and suddenly the user can't reproduce the issue anymore)

safe dragon
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šŸ™

cyan shadow
devout vault
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Oh Khloe mentioned that phenonemon too

dusty pollen
devout vault
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(I'm not sure why I redacted my last name considering it's so easy to find... whatever)

dusty pollen
devout vault
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The bugs specifically search out problems like this to recreate on our computers: https://xkcd.com/979/

xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients
All long help threads should have a sticky globally-editable post at the top saying 'DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE: Here's what we've figured out so far ...'
safe dragon
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I always knew I was doomed when the only result was a post to a Microsoft support forum

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I'm genuinely impressed how consistent Microsoft support is in not being remotely useful

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it's like they know precisely what to say to achieve nothing

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a response so bad it neither validates nor invalidates any possible cause of the problem

cinder karma
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God tier: a post in r/electricalengineering

heavy daggerBOT
cinder karma
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Good tier: one of many electrical engineering forums

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Terrible tier: cadence forums

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Medium tier: cadence blog post

marble jewel
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Drat, I've been found out

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Time to leave all discord servers, destroy all my electronics, and move to another country with a new identity

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(I've been getting a lot of mileage out of 'destroy all my electronics' lately. I think I've used that 3-5 times the past few days?)

marble jewel
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Reminds me of Delete Facebook, Hit the Gym, Lawyer Up

cinder karma
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Did the first

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Did the second

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What law did I break?

marble jewel
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None yet, but you never know

sand frost
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We can work on that

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which law of physics is your least favorite

crystal wren
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Makes sense, too. If you break a law of physics, you'll need a damn good lawyer to keep the governments away from wanting to study you.

safe dragon
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can you break the laws or physics or does that just mean we were wrong about the laws of physics

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they canā€™t be broken, only disproven

fleet wren
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inb4 there's no quantum gravity, physics is just like that, there is no further explanation

safe dragon
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bellā€™s theorem can suck it I still refuse to believe quantum mechanics is actually random and not ā€œeffectivelyā€ random due to mechanisms we donā€™t know about or might not even be able to ever reason about

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I will stick to magical hidden variables

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luckily Iā€™m not a physicist and never have to challenge my beliefs in this aspect

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quantum mechanics being random feels bad I donā€™t like it

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wrong vibes

cinder karma
fleet wren
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reminds me of that reddit guy who thinks he found the proof that angular momentum isn't conserved, and doesn't let things like "reality" or "people who actually has physics degrees" change his mind

safe dragon
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much like me and bellā€™s theorem

cinder karma
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Okay, but for real

safe dragon
# fleet wren reminds me of that reddit guy who thinks he found the proof that angular momentu...

this meanwhile reminds me of this https://www.quora.com/I-found-a-flaw-in-the-Riemann-hypothesis-and-can-prove-that-1705542-is-a-prime-number-How-can-I-get-my-proof-published

Quora
I found a flaw in the Riemann hypothesis and can prove that 1705542...

Answer (1 of 84):

I found a flaw in the Riemann hypothesis and can prove that 1705542 is a prime number. How can I get my proof published?
In case you aren't actually a troll, I will cut you a little slack. You don't really even have to use the Riemann hypothesis to falsify your claim that 170...

cinder karma
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If I were to break a law I would construct residential housing in a location not zoned for that

safe dragon
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ah american zoning laws

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infamous

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ugh
zoning laws my beloathed

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why can't we just have bakeries and grocery stores within walking distance of homes... and not 30 minute drives minimum

safe dragon
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I shall break the law of conservation of energy and lose energy into nothing

safe dragon
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I have a grocery store on the corner of my street

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a traditional baker(one that isnā€™t integrated into a grocery store) would be a 10 minute walk tho

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Iā€™d have the choice between a regular bread baker, a confectioner/bakery thing and a funky in between that mostly focuses on lunch items

regal ingot
# safe dragon I'm genuinely impressed how consistent Microsoft support is in not being remotel...

This joke is at least 20 years old, probably closer to 30:

A helicopter was flying in Seattle when suddenly an electrical malfunction disabled all electronic navigation and communication equipment.

Due to the amount of fog, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position. He spotted a tall building, flew toward it, circled, and held up a handwritten sign that said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign, and held it in a building window. Their sign said "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER."

The pilot thanked them by smiling and waving, determined the route to SEATAC airport and landed safely. When they were finally on the ground, his co-pilot asked him how he'd done it.

"I knew it had to be the Microsoft building, because they gave me a technically correct but utterly and completely useless answer."

safe dragon
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Iā€™m glad my experience matches an old joke

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Oooo, pick me! How about either the first or second laws of thermodynamics?

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..I forgot the reply

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sand frost
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which ones are those again

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is that like, conservation of energy

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i feel like that one is pretty important

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I would be more ok throwing away angular momentum

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we would lose some freaky gyroscope phenomena but like, who even needs that

cinder karma
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Your lathe.

sand frost
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i'll admit the second law is kind of a bummer

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the lathe is direct drive, I'm pretty sure!

cinder karma
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Technically the second law applies to closed systems

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Not open ones. Like my bedroom

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Come in, nice flux of energy to reduce the entropy... I'm being told something

sand frost
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i mean so does conservation of energy though, like open systems have stuff come and go all the time

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i feel like helicopters and stuff would be sad about the angular momentum

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or maybe happier?

cinder karma
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I'm getting my conservation laws screwy

sand frost
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isn't that why the little tail rotor

cinder karma
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When did we have third

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sand frost
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the 0th is kind of a weird cop out too

cinder karma
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Well little tail rotor is to counteract spin

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But spin is also like not sure

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Also my electrons would be unhappy

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If they didn't have angular momentum

sand frost
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i hear electrons have spin

cinder karma
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Yeah! 1/2

sand frost
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i thought it was up and down

cinder karma
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Nah, their spin is either +1/2 or -1/2

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Regardless of which direction you measure in

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It's fucking weird

sand frost
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electrons are full of nonsense

cinder karma
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Absolutely

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I am also full of nonsense

sand frost
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that's what i tell my students ā€”Ā don't look at them too closely, let's stick to the macro scale

fleet wren
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spin is a very fascinating concept to me

sand frost
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quantum bullshit is what happens when you look too closely at things

fleet wren
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like I remember if they are actually classically spinning they'd be spinning several times the speed of light

sand frost
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many of my students are not fully ok with some of the things engineers do šŸ˜›

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like divide by dx (the small distance) to get dF/dx (a derivative)

cinder karma
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I mean like

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They just inherently have angular momentum

sand frost
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or when i like to pretend that everything is 1D heat transfer because that's way easier to analyze

cinder karma
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They aren't actually spin spin or maybe they spin in a way we mere mortals don't understand

fleet wren
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yeah, I understood it more when someone said spin just is, like charge

devout vault
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Brb making a fictional world where that's a defined law of nature.

There would be a horror story in that world which describes an AU where instead of English, everything is Chinese or something, preventing almost all fun from happening

sand frost
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I had to try to explain to my students when this was ok vs not ok

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And itā€™s kind of hard

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I mean the specific answer was ā€œwe already had a dx hiding there to cancel itā€

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But in general itā€™s more like just vibes

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Oh, so we can store variables in our pockets to cancel out others or otherwise use them whenever we want/need?

Guess I'll throw in my body weight as a multiplier to my car's fuel effiency (used in a way where higher weight = more efficient, of course).

* Note: I do not have a car these days

cinder karma
rain apex
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atra i been wondering

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what is a piffle

cinder karma
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Juvenile stage of a mathsperson

devout vault
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Am I misremembering it being a club penguin thing

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Apparently so

pliant snow
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I thought that was puffle

devout vault
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Ah, no, I was thinking of the mobile app I saw at some point.

But apparently it actually means nonsense. Like, literally, it's a synonym for nonsense

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It has cats, no wonder I remembered it to some extent

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cinder karma
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But yeah. Piffle stems from math camp

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Hence

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The juvenile form of a mathperson

devout vault
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What does piffle have to do with math?

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Also, you're no longer a math person, you evolved into a science person, remember?

sand frost
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Analyzing a differential element along the length of a fin

devout vault
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Hmm, I know all of those words individually

sand frost
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So, suppose you have a heat sink

cinder karma
#

buys a Raspberry pi heat sink

sand frost
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How big do you make it? How many fins? How long should each fin be?

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The answers to these come from finding and then solving the differential equation that encapsulates the answer to those questions

devout vault
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Honestly I still don't understand much how heat sinks work without any active cooling šŸ˜›

sand frost
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Basically they vastly increase surface area

devout vault
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Is that all? Huh

sand frost
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If you spread the heat out over a big area it can escape to the air better

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Active cooling, to be clear, is WAY better

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So adding a fan is super much good

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But you need the surface area to maximize heat dissipation in a cramped area

devout vault
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How does it get all the heat from the source? Like, sure, it'd conduct or whatever across the metal, but it seems like that would only get rid of so much

sand frost
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As I told my students, laptops are a terribly cruel thing to do to a computer

devout vault
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Like it'd eventually hit an equilibrium or something

sand frost
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It does reach equilibrium but it reaches a cooler equilibrium if you have more surface area

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Otherwise the area is basically a bottleneck

cinder karma
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Smh

devout vault
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...I guess I shouldn't have expected much else considering heat sinks are basically just a hunk of metal (if I remember correctly)

cinder karma
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3nm not enough?

sand frost
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Conduction (metal) is way better than convection (air) at moving heat

sand frost
sand frost
devout vault
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Is the idea that it tries to equalize, but then air takes heat away so heat from the non-seatsink area has to move to the heatsink to try to equalize again?

sand frost
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Waste heat management isnā€™t going away for a long time!

sand frost
devout vault
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Isn't that why electronics in space have a really hard time cooling?

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No air

sand frost
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that's because vacuum is not air, yeah

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there's nowhere to put the heat because at a molecular level, heat is jiggly atoms

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no atoms nowhere to put the jiggle

devout vault
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Clearly we just need to use quantum teleportation to teleport the heat back to earth and take care of it there.

That's definitely how it works, I'm an expert in quantum mechanics. (You see, I did a wikipedia rabbit hole on it a couple months ago, so clearly I understand it better than anyone else, even despite avoiding the mathy bits.)

heavy daggerBOT
devout vault
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If only the atoms would jiggle in a way that would exercise for me šŸ˜¤

sand frost
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in vaguely related news, I had to turn on the AC for the first time since last fall today

devout vault
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I wish I could turn the AC on

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Dumb old buildings (or whatever causes the weird system my current apartment uses)

cinder karma
worn remnant
sand frost
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if I could have one superpower, control over the rate of heat transfer in any specific area would probably be it

devout vault
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I think they're not expecting to turn on actual AC instead of heating until next month at the earliest

pliant snow
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cinder karma
sand frost
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also that I pay electric = I pay AC

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yeah, I was at a talk about ribosomes on friday and like woooah

cinder karma
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Look at me! How many billion years of evolution produced this dumb fuck knitting in bed

devout vault
sand frost
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they're such funky little machines and we all are absolutely chock full of them

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and we don't really understand them

cinder karma
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No!

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And rubisco!!!!

sand frost
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like we know what they do but not all the details of how

cinder karma
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They wiggle and we are alive!!!