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I don't do character voices when reading, which does get slightly confusing sometimes. Sometimes I manage if it's written work based on a tv show or something, but even then I usually don't.

cinder karma
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I was just told of the final

rotund violet
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That's a traumatizing one. Honestly, waking up from that makes me happy to go to work.

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I will fail and this will destroy my life and there isn't anything I can so about it

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Meanwhile, my dreams about work are productive

rotund violet
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I could have to walk 2 hours in ice and snow to work, and I would still happily take that over repeating the final-exam level.

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Like, in a "okay, gotta architecture X like Y" productive

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Speaking of reading fast, I sometimes think about how the typing speed tests at a certain point seem to measure your reading speed more than your typing speed.

I read really fast (thanks reading a lot while growing up), but even still, I can type up something of my own thoughts (like programming) so much faster than repeating something on the screen. My family would make jokes about how ferociously I would be typing while programming sometimes.

marble jewel
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I've definitely had this. And sometimes I'm just my current self walking the halls of school even though it makes no sense.

ivory shadow
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I rarely have a dream set back in school, but they never have things like exams. Though I never remember my locker combination in them. But usually just that thought is enough to trigger lucidity if I didn't already have it, and I promptly change the setting.

rotund violet
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Yeah, you can't make sense of words or numbers in dreams.

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That part of the brain is literally disabled. Can't see reflections in mirrors either.

ivory shadow
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It is amusing to me that that's enough to trip my brain's failsafe. Like "Nope this is clearly wrong I would never forget that."

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Fun fact, I don't think I've ever had a recurring dream. Somehow my brain always comes up with new wacky nonsense.

For most people you might think they just don't remember them, but I remember at least a little every night (and back when my sleep quality was better, multiple every night), so I feel like it should've happened at some point.

ivory shadow
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(For that matter I still remember my high school locker combination)

rotund violet
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It's not "recurring" in the sense that it is literally a re-run of a previous episode, it's a little different each time obviously, but always the same basic theme.

cinder karma
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16-12-28

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(That was mine)

ivory shadow
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42-24-8

rotund violet
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I think I remember mine, though I may have it confused with various gym locker combinations.

cinder karma
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Damn yours is nice

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Two numbers, reversed

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Then 24=8×3

rotund violet
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I also learned to crack those old Master locks early on, so I didn't put a ton of effort into memorizing them.

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I've never had a school dream (or at least, if I'm at a school, it certainly doesn't stay a sane dream for long even in that situation).

The homeschooling thing probably is related to be honest. The main two real places I've been to in dreams are my parents house and the church we went to. And it's a landslide, no other familiar places come close in frequency (to the point I can't think of any).

cinder karma
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Tbh other than swimming I don't use the gym lockers

rotund violet
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I don't either anymore, but used to.

marble jewel
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My school didn't use lockers because of weapons or something, but I did accidentally memorize the license plate of a classmate from the 6th grade.

cinder karma
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It's straight easier to just shut my stuff in my car and change at work tbh

marble jewel
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Like, we were both waiting to be picked up, they left before me, I looked at the plate and still remember it to this day.

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# rotund violet That part of the brain is literally disabled. Can't see reflections in mirrors e...

I can? I mean, usually the text is changing as I read it and so isn't coherent, but there are plenty of dreams where the text is stable and I read stuff. Usually plot relevant stuff though.

And I've definitely seen reflections in my dreams, though they often don't reflect my real body. (My dream body usually is pretty out of date compared to my real body though - like, usually I'm still not overweight, no HRT changes, etc.). I remember one of the first dreams I had being a girl I noticed it because of my reflection.

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Dreams are very much powered by your mind and expectations - I find most of the things people say you "can't" do (at least in dreaming focused communities) are very much possible as long as your mindset isn't that you can't

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Even things that are typically 'impossible' for me in particular (I usually can't fly more than an inch or two off the ground for example) have plenty of exceptions

ivory shadow
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My problem is just if I get too interested in my dream I will definitely wake myself up as too much of my brain comes online.

marble jewel
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I've had dreams of flying, then realize I'm dreaming and immediately lose the ability to fly

ivory shadow
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I have ended a lot of cool dreams that way.

cinder karma
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Most of my dreams are incredibly boring if have them at all

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Tbh

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Extension of me being awake or a nightmare

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Either (a) I have successfully fucked up a in a way to destroy my entire life or (b) let's turn this circuit around in my head and come up with a solution before morning

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I don't think I have had a dream involving flying since I was like, thirteen

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I'm so old and tired

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It doesn't help that I don't get nearly enough sleep

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# rotund violet It's not "recurring" in the sense that it is literally a re-run of a previous ep...

I guess, but I don't even have those I feel like. Like, there might be recurring elements, but everything else is more than "a little different".

Like, there have been multiple times I punch earth-shattering meteors out of the sky (despite not being able to reach them), but every other part of the dream is never the same.

(Honestly, the meteor thing is something I have to be careful not to think about while dreaming, or else it usually happens. Your thoughts you dwell on very much influence the dream, for me at least - sometimes I notice I might not have any clothes on, but as long as I don't dwell on it nobody even notices.)

marble jewel
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My recurring nightmares are mostly recollections of past events, but playing out differently

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My parents tried homeschooling me for a bit in middle school. Also tried sending me to a private catholic school for a bit. I was a... I was not a good person at that age.

marble jewel
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I got kicked out of whatever Catholic thing you do when you're in early elementary school

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I think it was First Communion

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I didn't behave

ivory shadow
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Yeah, I got kicked out of the catholic school too. I was not buying their shit and I was very vocal about it.

marble jewel
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My third grade teacher rehabilitated me by sending me home with a sticker every day that I behaved

ivory shadow
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I don't remember a lot but I remember getting in an argument with one of the alleged teachers about evolution.

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# ivory shadow My problem is just if I get too interested in my dream I will definitely wake my...

I have that issue if I get aroused. NSFW subjects like that (that I won't go into because server rules) in dreams are basically impossible for me for that reason, since any significant duration will wake me up.

I used to have dreams where I'd invade hell (no army, just me, yes I usually won unless I woke up first), and I'd have to specifically avoid any potential succubi even though nothing NSFW was going to happen, just because women pretty. 😛

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# marble jewel I've had dreams of flying, then realize I'm dreaming and immediately lose the ab...

My attempts to fly more than slightly off the ground usually fail.

Like, I have literally hopped on a launching rocket (usually grabbing the outside but not always) and it tips over and falls to the ground before it gets close to leaving the atmosphere. Similar thing happened when I grabbed a passing race car once.

Saitama (one punch man protagonist) tried to jump and take me somewhere once and wasn't able to.

Moving fast or high off the ground is often just not gonna work for me. Though like I mentioned before, that isn't always the case.

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worn remnant
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i so rarely remember my dreams that it is a noteworthy occurrence when i do. most nights, i die and a new version of me wakes up in the morning

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marble jewel
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It mostly worked, I stopped getting into trouble everyday, but that didn't stop me from being suspended once each in Elementary school, Middle school, and High School.

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Honestly it wasn't until I started HRT and my main brain fog got lifted before I ever really thought for myself much

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(So late/post college)

cinder karma
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I think I was obedient to a fault tbh

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Still kinda am

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It's me and my friends One Weird Trick to deal with mental illness

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marble jewel
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I was an infinite source of energy up until my mid-20s

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Now I am LeTired

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(We had unmonitored free internet access)

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My brothers also used to joke about me being the favorite child... I never really bought into that of course because my parents aren't the type to have a favorite child. 😛 (Not how they meant it anyways - I think any honest parent will admit that there are moments when they prefer one child over another if one is being difficult to deal with or something)

cinder karma
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I'm....pretty much always exhausted but also capable of performing regardless

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sand frost
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I’m a very diligent voter

marble jewel
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I'm pretty sure I have undiagnosed things, but my parents didn't believe in mental health

sand frost
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Never missed an election

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sand frost
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Maybe more annoying but def still possible

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High conscientious

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marble jewel
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My stepfather was the type who thought doctors don't know what they're talking about when I said we needed to use sunscreen to prevent skin cancer

sand frost
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I feel like I don’t have anything undiagnosed but I do freely admit I’m not very normal

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Did get my adhd diagnosis at some point in teenage years at least

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And of course had the 'bipolar' medicine

ivory shadow
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I've voted every election since I was old enough. Unfortunately I'm in a very rural area.

sand frost
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Sometimes I go work the polls

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Not when I have work though

cinder karma
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I want to work the polls again

sand frost
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squints don’t you have worse hours than I do

cinder karma
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Still don't

ivory shadow
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It really bothers me how Michigan voting went this year. It was easier than ever to vote. The voting experience was great. And we had less people vote and everything went wrong, even so.

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But the voters rights stuff in Michigan is still cool and makes me happy

cinder karma
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My first interaction with the mental health system was like, a month before I got sectioned

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sand frost
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Oh fair

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Like, when I say 'painful shyness', I mean I would avoid even being around people outside my direct family as much as I could get away with. If I had to speak to someone I would use as little words as I could get away with. The person I talked to extensively with was my mom (to the point where sometimes she had to tell me to go find something else to do so she could focus on work 😅 )

Didn't really start growing out of it until puberty started kicking in I think? Or around the time I got my first crush (which was soooooo confusing not having gone through that before, combined with not even really interacting with that person ever, and also having been adamant in the past that I'd never even date anyone).

sand frost
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I admit I kind of can’t take off

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My mom had to persuade me to talk to the speech therapist my preschool teacher recommended because I wouldn’t talk to anyone at preschool

marble jewel
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I have two opposing personalities, where I'm mostly shy and can't speak to others, but then there are situations where I can be extremely sociable.

sand frost
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She diagnosed me with “nope very good vocab just shy”

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I’ve gotten way better

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Still don’t love phone calls

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But I can do them

marble jewel
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I remember taking an evaluation at work and the testers said my results were unusual because they showed me as having two extremely different personalities at work vs at home

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The never even date anyone thing is kinda weird in that it meant besides my mom none of my family knew I was even interested in anyone until I got my first girlfriend a few years ago, since I knew my brothers would tease me about things.

That first crush in particular because it was a family friend that my family sometimes joked about me ending up with, even before I started crushing on anyone (my mom stopped once I told her I did in fact like that girl, but since my brothers never knew it still happened sometimes and felt really uncomfortable - especially after I finally got to the point of asking her out and she rejected me 😛 )

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sand frost
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I forgot vacation days existed

cinder karma
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I'm about to go to China for two full weeks!!!

sand frost
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Vacation means summer to me xD

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# marble jewel I have two opposing personalities, where I'm mostly shy and can't speak to other...

I was like this for the longest time too. I still wouldn't say I'm outgoing, but I'm not super shy anymore or anything.

It gradually got a bit better growing up, and a bigger bump of progress when I started HRT.

It was when the antidepressant started kicking in recently that I fully got past that and became really talkative with people besides my mom. (Some friends like atra and Jessie have been getting a earful in DMs lately 😛 ) It was really interesting to notice and made me happy to realize (because of various other connected thought processes that I won't bother going into here)

marble jewel
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If I'm in a place like a club, I'll be the person in the corner keeping to myself and not talking to anyone, but at work I kind of have to be an assertive person.

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Not even club, but small house parties, I just drain my social battery in 5 minutes, and I don't have words.

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cinder karma
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I can't imagine going to a club tbh

sand frost
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I love big parties with my friends but I hate talking to strangers

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I went to a club once! For grad school stuff, since it was by far the cheapest venue in the city lol

rotund violet
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cinder karma
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There is a maximum amount of chaos I can tolerate

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And well

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It's not that much

sand frost
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I didn’t “go clubbing” per se because we really just stood around chatting/dancing and I didn’t interact with strangers

cinder karma
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We went to a club during grad school interview

sand frost
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Mainly it was really loud, but I enjoyed it

marble jewel
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I've only found myself in clubs a few times at the insistence of my more social friends

cinder karma
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And I left in the first ten minutes

sand frost
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Grad school interview clubbing sounds awful

marble jewel
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Even amongst friends, I'm so out of my element that I still shut down

sand frost
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You can’t even talk to people

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sand frost
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I couldn’t even stand grad school interview bars after the first 3 or so

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# marble jewel Not even club, but small house parties, I just drain my social battery in 5 minu...

A draining social battery is very much an introvert thing from what I've heard (which doesn't mean shy, there can be outgoing introverts too).

I've learned the past few years I'm very much an extrovert (getting energy from being around people), though still on the shyer side for initial connections. Really surprised my mom the first time I told her that. 😛 I think I'm the only extrovert in the family.

sand frost
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Too loud, too many strangers, too stressful trying to subtly pry information out of the grad students

rotund violet
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Couldn't resist.

sand frost
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I bailed and hung out with my now fiancé instead lol

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(Then-friend)

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sand frost
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I enjoy noisy environments but I draw the line at hearing loss

marble jewel
sand frost
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And I enjoy more limited noise

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Like a coffee shop

cinder karma
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It's weird. I was in marching band in high school

marble jewel
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Hence the opposing personalities thing

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The other thing is I don't tolerate being touched

marble jewel
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Different situations make me both an introvert or an extrovert

rotund violet
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I remember there being a casual outing with some people at work shortly after I got my job here, and I had to leave early because I just couldn't understand what people were saying at the place. (Can't recall if there was actually music, but the place was packed and so lots of overlapping voices constantly.)

sand frost
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Everyone seems to assume i don’t tolerate being touched but I’m instead very picky

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It was some restaurant, they weren't expecting it to be so busy

sand frost
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So it’s a little awkward to be like “well, yes, I didn’t want X person to touch me but you’re ok because I like you better”

cinder karma
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That's pretty normal I would say

rotund violet
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You just described... every girl on the planet, lol

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Also, just looked at the time, is it really 8:30 already??? I thought it was around 6.

Apparently I've been chatting here for over 3 hours 😛

sand frost
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I mean i think a lot of people casually hug?

marble jewel
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I've been chatting while cooking dinner tonight

sand frost
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Like as a greeting

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If i don’t like someone I won’t tolerate even “normal” touching like tapping on the shoulder

rotund violet
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Casual hugs only in certain environments and with certain groups.

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Which, again... is everyone.

sand frost
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Idk I have friends who are way more open about it

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And some people do social dancing

marble jewel
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That's my wife, she doesn't like any form of touch from most people. Like those tap on the shoulder things that others seem to find normal.

sand frost
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Actually a lot of people

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# sand frost I enjoy noisy environments but I draw the line at hearing loss

Yeah, not sure if my problem is hearing loss related or not? The first time I ever went to a concert was about a year ago with a former friend. (It honestly wasn't as long as I was expecting.) Not sure what could cause hearing loss for me growing up, besides maybe preferring headphones (but I always chose to turn the volume to like 10% because it seemed loud).

rotund violet
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Only ones I've known who were really open to casual hugs from just about anyone tended to be not entirely sober.

cinder karma
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just don't

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even if I like you, you're risking getting punched in the face

worn remnant
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i know lots of people who are casual huggers. i am not a casual hugger at all, we must have social link 4 or whatever before hugging is on the table

sand frost
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(Is social link 4 a video game thing I don’t know about)

cinder karma
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(to be fair, it's an "unexpected touch" thing)

rotund violet
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It's a Persona thing, I think

worn remnant
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i also think it's persona. i have never played a persona game

rotund violet
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(I never managed to get more than an hour into one but I remember that part)

sand frost
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What does it mean?

cinder karma
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what's persona

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...actually, don't answer that question

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I don't actually care

sand frost
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I am guessing persona is a video game

rotund violet
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Persona's this weird RPG series for people who don't have friends, and I'm not really joking, that's sort of how it's advertised.

marble jewel
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It's kind of like a JRPG, right?

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marble jewel
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I just know the art is all anime-like

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tbh I'm fine with casual hugging, mysteriously

rotund violet
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It's a Friendship Simulator game with vague classic RPG elements

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# cinder karma The other thing is I don't tolerate being touched

I'm like that for the most part. With friends I'll tolerate hugs for the other person's sake, but that's it.

Now, for people I'm super close to? (ie. just my parents, and in theory a hypothetical romantic partner one day) I can not get enough hugs to satisfy me. With my parents I hug them every time I first see them and also when I leave (and when I lived with them, multiple times throughout the day too).

For the theoretical romantic partner I imagine I'd like stuff like hand holding and cuddling and what not too, but I have very little romantic experience (and what I do have didn't reach the point of being super close) so hard to be sure.

cinder karma
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as long as I actually know someone, it's fine!

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I can tolerate it

marble jewel
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I didn't learn affection as a child so all forms of touch feel very foreign to me

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(greeting kisses on the cheek, otoh, no. I don't care if you're French)

marble jewel
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Like hugs are all awkward

cinder karma
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(almost used a hug emoji)

rotund violet
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I do have to agree with the kiss on the cheek thing, that's just weird and always seems to come from women over 70.

cinder karma
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It is a French thing. (and I've only encountered it with the French so far) but it's not my culture I'm so sorry

rotund violet
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There was one I remember who was really actually French and almost kind of made it seem natural, but it was still a little weird.

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As you said, maybe they do it in France (or Quebec) but not here.

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I always felt uncomfortable when my parents made me hug extended family when I was younger. I don't even see these people once a year, why in the world would I want to hug them

marble jewel
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Also when random relatives say "I love you" to me, and I don't say it back they make a big deal out of it, but the words don't mean anything to me. I don't think anyone said that to me for the first 18 years of my life.

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If I ever have kids I'm not gonna make them hug anyone they don't want to, even if it were their grandparents (such as my parents)

marble jewel
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So affection in general is just not something I was raised to understand.

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Is that a cultural thing or just your family not being close thing? If the latter that sounds kinda sad (coming from my experiences anyways, with my parents frequently saying they love me and hugging and such)

rotund violet
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<Dr. Evil>: That's not something a dude should say to another dude, ok?

marble jewel
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# rotund violet I don't have an autistic or affection-challenged family but that is a weird thin...

Eh, my grandparents and one of my aunts (the closer one that I see more often compared to other extended family, actually) say that. It can seem a little strange, but at the same time I wouldn't go so far as to say it's weird - especially with all the definitions of the word love.

I mean, if there's a food you say you love, you don't mean it the same way you would love a romantic partner for example.

One thing I remember from church days is that greek has like 9 or 13 words with different meanings for what we use 'love' for

marble jewel
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I was the unintended pregnancy of kids in high school

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I might say 'love you too' back with those people, but I wouldn't say it first, and when I do say it responsively it's not in a deep sense like with my family. If they passed away or something I might be a little sad but I'm not sure I'd end up crying (despite crying a little easier post-HRT, though not as drastically more like a bunch of trans women end up doing)

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# marble jewel I was the unintended pregnancy of kids in high school

That sounds like a rough thing to process mentally once you find out. 🫂 I can't imagine how hard that must be.

My mom had difficult getting pregnant (and miscarriages when she did), with my twin and I she had used a fertility medicine I think.

They were trying for a daughter but ended up with twin boys. 😛 Weird how it turned out though with me transitioning (and my twin wanting to but can't medically for health reasons, and so doesn't even bother socially transitioning... it's really sad)

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(In theory, in all likelihood I won't seriously try to sleep for another 3 hours from now and instead be on my phone, but anyways)

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But hey, conversation has slowed down enough now that I'm not 15 minutes behind on reading/responding to messages in here. 😛

cinder karma
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I just gave up lol

cinder karma
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If I didn't see it when I happened to peek st mh phone I didn't see it lol

sonic mirage
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978 new messages
Did we have a spontaneous conference in here?

fleet wren
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nothing related to programming that's for sure

sonic mirage
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I got some from Trader Joe's it's really helped with laying in bed and thinking for hours

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cinder karma
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speaking of energy levels, I'm now convinced creatine is magic

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well, I was convinced like day 2, but I'm very convinced now

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(I was convinced because usually the first run after a blood donation feels terrible, and after I started taking creatine, that stopped happening)

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sand frost
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vit D is important in the winter!!

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like, I first started taking it because my cousin-who-lifts suggested it, and I knew it wasn't necessarily useful for my sport (long-distance running, not short-distance sprints) but hey

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My parents suggested a sunlamp for the vitamin D thing but I looked it up and those only do circadian rhythm stuff and don't help with vitamin D

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I think it's more about helping you just get to sleep, but I haven't done a ton of research so obviously you'd want to check with a doctor on that

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I would ask doctor first but there's a difference between melatonin (and I would consider the adenosine-analogues like seroquel in this bucket too) and something like...fuck

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name escapes me

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it's not abilify

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ambien

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(hi, you already know my one usable sleep medicine is seroquel.)

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I think I did talk to my doctor about it recently (within the last year), though they also said a dedicated sleep doctor might have some ideas on safe ones (since they deal with sleep apnea regularly), especially after getting a new sleep study done

lavish prairie
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Hello Divine people

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I had a sleep study at one point and got a cpap but I couldn't stay comfortable enough to fall asleep with it on with how long it takes me to fall asleep. A lot of people use the option for the pressure to ramp up over time so they fall asleep before it gets to an uncomfortable level, but that tends to be 30-60min, not 2-3 hours minimum 😛

sonic mirage
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I feel like they wouldn't learn anything from me going to a sleep study. I'm terrible at sleeping new places

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The one I did before was an at home one

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I will say seroquel is fricken effective

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Last time I talked about it with my primary care, they said there are like disposable ones now that you use and they send the results through the internet and you just throw it away the next morning

sonic mirage
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Or maybe it was my mom who mentioned that

cinder karma
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the adenosine pathway is, directly, the sleep pathway

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it's like someone holding down the "sleep" button in my brain

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like, melatonin has never worked for me

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Sounds dangerous if I need to wake up due to not breathing. 😛

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I mentioned the headache thing earlier when talking about dreams and stuff, can't recall if I mentioned that sometimes one of my arms falls asleep for clearly way too long (ie. hurting some in a weird way, not simply numb or the needly feeling) despite not being in a weird position

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Probably a circulation issue which could be related to having enough air too

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Like, if you do have enough air, obviously the body prioritizes the brain over your extremities

cinder karma
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it's not a respiratory depressant, and like, it's not like it'll keep me asleep if someone's, say, putting on a rock concert downstairs, but I understand the concern 🫂

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Kinda weird how it's one arm and not both or any other limbs though

cinder karma
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I've told you before one of my mania early signs is the feeling of something crawling, usually in my left hand, right?

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brains are weird

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Happens when I sleep on my right side.

Grew up sleeping on my back but can't now because sleep apnea (and lately even being on my back for a while makes my back hurt, might just be my bed though?).

On my left side I pretty quickly can't breathe through my nose anymore, pretty sure I have a deviated septum from how the inside of my nostrils feels. And I can't seem to leave my mouth open easily when on my sides, not sure if related to my overbite or something

Which leaves my right side. Which isn't great either when I have reflux issues.

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rotund violet
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Melatonin mainly helps to regulate the "sleep clock" if your cycle has gotten screwy, it doesn't knock you out though.

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There have been some times I've fallen asleep on my left side (I fall asleep faster on it, my right side is literally the slowest for falling asleep, so sometimes I'll lay on my left a little while to get sleepy) and I usually end up with the headache, though one time recently it was the arm thing instead

cinder karma
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Tbh, the seroquel has other uses that's not just sleep

devout vault
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Can't recall if it was the same arm as on my right side or the opposite though

cinder karma
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it's a pretty damn good mood stabilizer

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and for me, disrupted sleep IS disrupted mood so

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I don't need to take it often, but I have it as backup in case

rain apex
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discord is using a really ugly fallback font for cjk MitsuYawn

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im not sure how2fix

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but this fallback font has 𰻝𰻝 for some reason

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proper font

rotund violet
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I can't tell the difference.

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Oh, the 4th glyph is maybe a little different.

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Or... the third. The one that's a vertical line with two horizontal strokes.

cinder karma
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corporate has two pictures, etc

rain apex
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the kerning is wrong

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the 时 is like 4px lower for mystery reasons

rotund violet
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Yeah, now that you mention it, the alignment is all over the place.

sand frost
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honestly they both look the same and also kind of meh to me

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oh i can see the kerning now

rain apex
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some chars are very bitmapy

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disaster zone this one

sand frost
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哈哈哈 these look ok on my screen

rain apex
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yea im psure its linux nonsense kyuuchan_run

sonic mirage
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Ah yes, box box

rain apex
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you are not worthy of the biangbiang

sonic mirage
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Maybe I should have put a border around the screenshot since it blends into Discord lol

rain apex
sonic mirage
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Don't make me hungry, I should be going to bed

ivory shadow
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So on the topic of expensive electronics, does anyone use Ubiquiti networking gear?

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I'm looking at the new Dream Router 7 they put out... even though I have absolutely no reason to upgrade from my Dream Machine Pro, since my WAN is limited to 1GbE living in rural land as I am. It's nice that they finally updated to something I could actually recommend to someone though.

marble jewel
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I use ubiquiti and I’ve been eyeing that myself

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My WiFi is still the Eero 6E mesh so I’ve been wanting to upgrade that to Ubiquiti equipment

ivory shadow
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I'm disappointed this wasn't out a few months ago, since I have a friend who could've used this. They've got two WAN connections because of work, but their new router doesn't support failover.

dusty pollen
dusty pollen
ivory shadow
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This channel is cozy. Good place to talk to programming friends about whatever

safe dragon
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sometimes even programming

rain apex
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impossible

safe dragon
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I did have to go to bed eventually so I missed some of this

rotund violet
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Edgerouter is a good piece of equipment especially at its price point.

ivory shadow
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Their long range point to point stuff is great too.

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I have a point to point bridge from my house to my parents house 1600 feet away.

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It gets around 300 to 400 Mbps, which is plenty for them, and as a result they don't need to pay for their own internet connection.

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And they can access the NAS for work files and stuff for their business at either place.

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I haven't had to realign the dishes in literally years also and it's super stable, even in high winds or blizzard conditions.

safe dragon
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neat

silk narwhal
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Okay time to ramble about Danganronpa V3 modding SDVpuffersquee

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Okay one thing I really detest about V3 modding, for just total incoherency: FLAGS

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They're globally set per save file but some flags get repeatedly switched on and off in a sense that FEELS like it ought to have been locally handled

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It's terrible. But you know what, it's the sort of thing that only someone with a fractured mind like mine can handle editing manually (<-overdramatic)

safe dragon
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I love global boolean flags, they've ruined my day many times

silk narwhal
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It's horrible.......

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In all honesty though, things are quite unforgiving, between the tools being haphazard and unfinished in places, and knowledge being limited. I'm totally gung-ho about it but some people just wanna mod their fanfics into the game without the fuss... I scoff at them and say "there is only fuss to be found in this madness"

vagrant basalt
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I definitely don't get it because I'd much rather read a book than play a visual novel lol

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But I get the desire to mod, so that's where I'm connecting with you on xD

silk narwhal
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Visual novels help cut out the fuss of narration, which I thoroughly enjoy from both a reading and writing standpoint

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I know some people adore narration and I can recognize the art in it... but deep down to me, it's an obstacle in the way of dialogue

vagrant basalt
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Hmm, that's interesting. I just cut it out by skipping past it because I have aphantasia so visuals don't really matter to me. That is why visual novels are unappealing - so much focus on pictures.

safe dragon
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the choose your own adventure aspect of many of them can be appealing

vagrant basalt
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I have been an avid reader of Jane Austen for like...23 years and did not notice until my friend pointed it out to me last year that there's almost no description of anything in any of her books.

safe dragon
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Slay the Princess couldn't exist in book form

vagrant basalt
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I hate choose your own adventures generally xD

silk narwhal
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Ahhhh I see, for me I read narration anyway and it turns out without fail to be a waste of time for my horrible imagination ahaha

vagrant basalt
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Though I did really love Roadwarden! It's just...less visual

silk narwhal
vagrant basalt
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I hope you are interested in learning the social norms of early 1800s England then xD

silk narwhal
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I've noticed that even when I wrote in a traditional prose style, I don't end up describing any visuals beyond movement

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Nobody's wearing anything of interest. Who knows what they look like

vagrant basalt
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Anyway I have now managed to take us off-topic from even programming, so let us return to the programming!

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Please tell me the difference between globally and locally handled flag setting.

silk narwhal
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So locally handled stuff is what I wish I had to work with. I'd love if certain flags in that game could be automatically reset to false or somesuch after a chapter ends, or heck—after the player RETURNS TO THE MENU (this is the most bothersome thing for me. what do you mean, the flag stays when you LEAVE the gameplay and try to start the story again?)

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It's very annoying to me ahaha

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Instead, I have only these global flags. Maybe I should give a concrete example a shot:

Sometimes, characters will die in the game, and I have to turn on a flag to mark them as dead in the character list.
Now, if the player plays past the point where the character dies, saves, returns to the main menu, and restarts the game from the beginning of the story (or from other checkpoints like the start of a new chapter), that enabled flag marking the character as dead in the character list will persist—even though the character has not died yet in the story progression. It becomes awkward when you talk to that character and then try to open up the character list... "Wait, it says he's dead?"

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Basically, data is being carried over when I don't want it to be

vagrant basalt
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Oh no that is terrible

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How does that work if they start a new game? Isn't that a new save?

silk narwhal
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The devs handled this by manually resetting everything at the start of each checkpoint, but it gets difficult to keep track of what goes where when most flags are named "flg202" and such

silk narwhal
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Kinda funky, I figure

vagrant basalt
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Ah, I see.

silk narwhal
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I think the befuddling thing is that some flags do get reset to off automatically? But dang if I don't know which ones

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It's most probably stored somewhere, but I've got plenty of mechanics I'd like to know more about which are stored "somewhere"

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The other rough thing is trying to not just gather, but also distribute knowledge

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Documentation is hard!! Props to the people who manage to do it while coding their tools

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But even if there's documentation you're still gonna need someone who can point people to it

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I'm sure you're plenty familiar with that part ahaha

vagrant basalt
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Yeah I'm very impressed by focustense and Button both managing to have really clear documentation and I don't blame the people whose documentation is less clear - I always just appreciate that they wrote it at all. Every time I edit the wiki I'm usually agonising over how to word things.

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How do you manage to poke around? Do you have to try to decompile it like Stardew? If so, that'd be hard with it being bespoke, right?

silk narwhal
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It's a lot of... hex editing and analysis

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It's really terrible

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There's someone working on file format analysis who's some kind of data whiz ahaha, they're making amazing progress on stuff that's stumped our predecessors for years

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I'm not a genius at hex editing, but I get part of the gist at least

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But yeah, poking around is a lot of shots in the dark and seriously screwing around

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It makes me think of studying the human brain and just happening across which neurons fire in response to what

vagrant basalt
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Oh wow hex editing looks terrible

silk narwhal
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It sure is!

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Baffled me the first time I saw it

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But yeah, that would be in regards to stuff that's not very well understood

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There's one file format that's quite robustly understood in comparison, which contains the assembly-like language

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That can fortunately be poked with using good old copy-paste, spot-the-difference in-game techniques

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It's what I've focused most of my attention on in terms of researching

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Which, unfortunately (in a sense), makes me the only person who can answer all the questions from people who want to mod their fanfics in the game real quick for fun

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I like answering questions but it got a bit much after a while ahaha

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So I've been quietly working on my own mod since then

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I kinda wish more people would take interest in the research aspect of modding and not just the "make stuff happen" part, especially at this stage of the game's mod-ability

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But eh. I'm having fun doing the things that interest me now ahaha

vagrant basalt
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I know what you mean about wishing more people cared about knowing rather than just having the result.

silk narwhal
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Yeah, when helping out with Stardew modding I felt that to an extent, but to me it's also easier to help people without getting invested here

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The help, support, and resources are plentiful, even if they aren't infinite, they're enough that you don't need to think too hard about any particular person

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Stardew has a healthy vibrant modding community in that sense

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It's always been a lovely experience to me to see the breadth of knowledge that people have, share, and seek at times here

vagrant basalt
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Yeah being able to share the support work (for mod-making or mod-use) across many people makes it way easier.

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I would absolutely burn out if I was in your position right now.

silk narwhal
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Yeah, I've also had worries like "are people going to mod the game responsibly?" Like I don't want to see people using the game as a vehicle to promote things, for instance

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We don't have permission to mod DRV3 or anything, so I want to be respectful regarding what I put in it

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And I worry a little about if someone could step out of line and ruin things for everyone

vagrant basalt
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Yeah that's understandable. That's enough of a worry for Stardew and we have CA's explicit approval and support.

silk narwhal
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For which I know I'll always be grateful!

vagrant basalt
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So with the flags, is that something you can change with hex editing?

silk narwhal
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The flags are part of the assembly-like language

vagrant basalt
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So you have to write that language to be able to modify them?

cinder karma
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This seems very interesting

silk narwhal
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Yep! Fortunately there's an unpacker/repacker for the data format which works wonderfully

cinder karma
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What language do they use?

silk narwhal
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Honestly I really don't know

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I think there's quite a lot of formats made for the game? But I'll have to refresh my knowledge

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I only recall it being described as an assembly-like language by the person (CaptainSwag101) who made the unpacking/repacking tool

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He's since left his projects indefinitely I believe but still answers questions

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Reminds me a little of some people SDVpufferthink

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Ahah

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But I'm still very thankful for his work

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Mmmyeah, best answer I've found is "custom engine"

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I don't know if that answers the question of what programming language because my terminology knowledge cuts a little too short ahaha

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...And then for the Switch rereleases they low-effort chucked it into Unity apparently

vagrant basalt
# silk narwhal

Sorry to disappear on you, I got so stuck with the recipes in shops thing and also talking to someone about OCD that I couldn't think about something else at the same time

silk narwhal
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Oooh all good! I was also multitasking as it happens ahaha

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I might have to multitask into falling asleep... (????)

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Getting a little drowsy about now

vagrant basalt
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Yeah it's time for me to start winding down for sleeping too. I loved chatting with you tonight DragonDance

silk narwhal
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Me too! Definitely feel free to @ me whenever and we can chat

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Or heck, DM me if you'd like ahaha

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Or heck, maybe I'll DM you if I'd like! Bahahaha

devout vault
devout vault
# silk narwhal Instead, I have only these global flags. Maybe I should give a concrete example ...

Stardew has had bugs like this too. And consequently of course mods have too - I remember when return to title was first added (no, it didn't always exist, used to you had to restart the game to load another save) I kinda complained some about it because of having to do stuff like that. 😛 JA specifically was a bit painful to figure out what needed to be reset and what didn't (especially since IDs were per save file, but ID assignment was part of 'content pack' loading (not that content packs existed as a formal thing at the time), so I had to separate the two)

devout vault
sonic mirage
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Modders: "I never would have done this if I knew there would be maintenance to do SDVpufferwaaah"

devout vault
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If my mods would just maintain themselves, that would be amazing. I might have ended up being able to keep my title of 'most mods made' instead of aedenthorn taking it if that were the case.

marble jewel
sonic mirage
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SpaceCore -> TabCore

devout vault
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Clearly I just need to pioneer and invent true generalized AI, solely for the purpose of maintaining my mods for me. SDVPufferThink (Let's ignore ethical questions of making a possibly sentient being forced to do nothing but maintain my mods all the time for the sake of this thought experiment)

sonic mirage
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AI: What is my purpose?
Casey: You maintain my mods.
AI: Oh god no please

devout vault
devout vault
sonic mirage
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SpaceCore is now SpaceyCaseyCorey

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Seamless name integration

devout vault
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Meh, not the same. My parents joked about calling me spacey casey now (they're the ones who started the 'spacechase' thing), but I didn't really like it 😛

devout vault
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(It would be consistent if IDEs wouldn't fight me on some of the things I like to do, like spaces on the inside of parenthesis, or my very weird 'ideal identation' ideas)

sonic mirage
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Code style is an art, and therefore it evolves over time. Or at least that's how I justify my inconsistencies.

devout vault
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(Very weird ideal indentation = tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment taken to the extreme. If I have a multiline lambda mid function argument, yes, I would use tabs for the baseline indentation, then spaces for alignment, then tabs again for the indentation inside the lambda body - and then repeat for multiline ifs and such inside said lambda. Alas, no IDE will cooperate with me on this 😔 )

sonic mirage
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I don't attempt to align much anymore. Tabs for indentation and then a newline and an extra tab if that line get too long so that it's clearly a continuation of it.

devout vault
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Clearly I just need to write my own IDE! What could possibly go wrong???

sonic mirage
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Well you'd probably start by rewriting Electron so you could use that, which sounds like a lot of work

devout vault
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Yeah, I don't bother much anymore either. But I was talking about 'ideal indentation', not 'practical indentation'

marble jewel
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Code style?

devout vault
sonic mirage
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Hence why you'd rewrite it SDVkrobusgiggle

devout vault
# marble jewel

Perfect, 9/10 (one point deducted for no spaces on inside of parenthesis)

devout vault
sonic mirage
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Spaces inside curly brackets, not parenthesis ( we don't do this in normal writing )

devout vault
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Code isn't normal writing, checkmate

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To be honest I do it sometimes for normal writing too though if I'm nesting a parenthesis

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Though sometimes I'll just use [] and {} for those cases instead

sonic mirage
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It purports to read like natural language for the sake of most easily communicating its meaning

devout vault
sonic mirage
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I haven't written Python since Intro to Programming in college

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But it was responsible for me getting into the programming, I guess, since that class was how I discovered I enjoyed it

devout vault
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I also put spaces inside of square brackets, and angle brackets for C++ templates (though to be fair, in older C++ you sometimes had to for nested templates because the compiler got confused with >> in things like std::map<int, std::vector<std::string>>, though I think the spec changed and it's better handled nowadays)

sonic mirage
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If you've never done something a class teaches before, but end up going around to help other students, you might have a knack for said thing

devout vault
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I picked this up earlier on back when I was learning C++, from someone I worked on a game with. Around when I turned 13, so like... 15 years ago at this point?

sonic mirage
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We're all just products of our environment, at the end of the day

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Most of my style preferences are from what we do at work

vagrant basalt
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Or maybe I just really love teaching SDVpufferthinkblob

devout vault
# sonic mirage If you've never done something a class teaches before, but end up going around t...

I did that some in college (not much though, people didn't tend to talk to me 😛 ). I remember in one of my recitations for college intro to CS I knew something the TA didn't.

Specifically it was how you could use sizeof() on a static array declaration to get the amount of elements if you were in the same scope, but if you passed it into a function or something that function couldn't get it and instead would just get the size of the pointer.

...That might've been a gcc extension actually, can't recall for sure. But we used gcc mainly so it was fine

sonic mirage
vagrant basalt
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One time I had a fellow student pay me to tutor him in a stats class we were taking at the same time 😍 (I was very careful to avoid assignment stuff).

sonic mirage
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Closest I got to that was I sold a textbook on Amazon and the guy was in my class so I just handed it to him

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He left me a review about "fast delivery"

devout vault
#

CS classes were a lot of fun once I got past the first few classes, since I was self taught and never learned stuff like algorithms/data structures and computer architecture.

I remember one assignment for computer organization (architecture stuff, this assignment was about emulating mips in a way that was somewhat in line with how cpus would actually do it in hardware) we got provided a decent amount of 'base code' we could optionally use to start with, and the few friends I had thought I was crazy for doing it from scratch anyways.

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It was more fun that way! Also I'm pretty sure I understood it better that way, and it might've even taken me in particular longer to figure out how to fit things I wanted in the base code.

vagrant basalt
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I never studied cs. I'm not sure if I would've liked it.

sonic mirage
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I only discovered programming my taking Intro to Programming as an elective for another major. After taking it I switched to CS, and the first few classes were all C++

cinder karma
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I've never studied cs. I don't know if I would have liked it either 😛

devout vault
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Might've mentioned this yesterday but AP Computer Science was Java so I still had to take the intro courses despite having AP credit since they were a C++ college 😔

sonic mirage
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The few core classes were just the fundamentals, which I appreciate having taken, but most of the other classes were either not useful or just a straight waste of time

devout vault
#

Intro to CS was so boooooring. I mean, the professor was great and one of ones I ended up being friends with, but man I was glad to be past that course

sonic mirage
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My advice to people is to take some of the free MITx or HarvardX intro to CS classes online, and then go try to build some projects in C# to learn anything past that

devout vault
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(Personally I still would've enjoyed that class, though I dropped out before I got around to it)

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(Darn depression, ruining college students academic careers for as long as college has existed)

vagrant basalt
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I did a certificate in something computery when I first left high school and they tried to teach OOP with some sort of flowchart program or something? That put me off programming until I started using R for statistics in psychology 8 years later.

devout vault
#

Oh yeah, I hate UML

safe dragon
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my diagrams are not UML there are just a vague approximation with arrows and boxes

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I had to learn UML in uni and then consequently forgot all about it

devout vault
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I don't ever make diagrams. I guess I might have something vaguely similar in my head when I'm thinking about something complex, but I never actually make it into something anyone can see unless they're a telepath

safe dragon
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I have to sometimes for work

vagrant basalt
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Yes, UML! Ugh it was terrible. I cannot use diagrams for learning anything. In my data science masters I made my database diagrams by writing all the SQL and then slowly figuring out how the diagram should look from there. And that was only because we had to submit a database diagram.

safe dragon
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I don’t really think I’ve ever seen one that actually helped me with anything but some people really believe in that kind of documentation

devout vault
#

That job was so boring, there was so little to do most of the time. Most of the time I was doing homework or modding

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Pretty sure my original storage system (like minecraft applied energistics 1 / refined storage) prototype was on that work computer (pre official MP days, simpler times). I can't recall for sure how I actually got SDV on there though, I think I might've put it on a usb and brought it?

safe dragon
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my job has been pushing for everything to be documented in “enterprise architect” but I’m highly skeptical of that going anywhere

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I’m expecting 6 months from now for someone to be like “oh this is too expensive let’s just not”

devout vault
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Honestly, I'd take UML over the AI nonsense my first full time job was doing. They kept telling us to run all our ideas through chat gpt to get ideas for improvements, had ai summaries of our meetings (which were never good quality summaries), had AI auto code review our PRs which we were supposed to take into account (though I always ignored them), etc.

vagrant basalt
sonic mirage
devout vault
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I haven't seen the company on my linked in feed in a while, but back when I did there was always very clearly AI generated images

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Which is saying something if I can tell, I'm not great at recognizing AI imagery

safe dragon
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meanwhile I just got mandated into a course about the dangers of AI tooling at work

sonic mirage
devout vault
#

The first full time job I had was around the time it all really started getting popular though

pliant snow
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The most important feature of any online UML website is a bunch of pictures showing what all the UML items mean

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Which I then proceed to ignore and just use the most basic boxes and arrows

devout vault
#

(Same job that gave everyone in the company a 20% pay cut when the company wasn't doing well - and they were already paying well below market rate at least for web developers, and also had some employees in india or something which I'm 100% certain they weren't paying a similar wage to the US employees)

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(I was still fine with the pay cut thanks to nexus donation points being at their peak around that time, but it wasn't fun)

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(It was a big factor in me more seriously looking for a new job though)

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(That and the whole 'get out of FL as a trans person' thing)

pliant snow
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Don't worry, I'm sure they bumped the pay back up later

devout vault
#

They did supposedly have specific goals at which point they would bring pay back to old levels, and then a further goal where they would make up the difference for the 20% difference during the lower wage time.

No idea if they ever reached those goals and actually did it though, since I left the company before then

marble jewel
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My job cut my bonus down to 80% because I didn't fully comply with the RTO mandate

sonic mirage
#

#WorthIt

marble jewel
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So instead of being on Teams calls all day at home, I go into the office and I'm on Teams calls all day from there

cinder karma
#

Which one of you guys understands linking

sonic mirage
#

<a href="put the URL here">link text</a>

rain apex
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ldd atracore.so.1

cinder karma
#

Can't use ldd, we are on windows

rain apex
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Guess you just die then

marble jewel
safe dragon
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just flip the letters around and replace a d with an l and you have a dll

rain apex
#

Although this came up once before right, what did you do back then

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Surely the good folks at microsoft also yearn for ldd

cinder karma
#

Dumpbin maybeeeee????

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I swear I don't recall

rain apex
#

Ah you just found new version that loads

cinder karma
#

Dependency Walker

devout vault
# marble jewel My job cut my bonus down to 80% because I didn't fully comply with the RTO manda...

Imagine getting anything substantial as a christmas bonus.

That web dev job that had the 20% pay cut that I mentioned earlier I'm pretty sure the bonuses were less than $100, though I don't recall for sure.

My more recent job it was several hundred dollars. Still not super substantial, but still more than that other job. And the way they have it structured, you get more 'shares' in the 'bonus pool' for each month you've been working there, so the longer you've been with them the more your bonus will end up being.

cinder karma
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.... I don't get bonuses at all lol (but I get stock options)

devout vault
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They were honestly a great company, I can't think of anything negative to say about them. If only I hadn't messed up and lost the job (mental health spiral impacting performance over a long period of time, wooooo - they had mentioned it in check ins before and written me up once because of some specific things related, so I wasn't really surprised. Honestly, I'm surprised they waited as long as they did)

cinder karma
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Was about $1.5k worth of stock last time?

sand frost
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I don’t get either!

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It would be amusing to get stock options tbh idk what that would mean

devout vault
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I've never had a job with stock options. To be fair, I've only had two full time jobs

marble jewel
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I guess I shouldn't complain

rain apex
#

I get something called RSU and i haven't figured out what they mean yet

marble jewel
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Restricted Stock Units

devout vault
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And only that second one had benefits. (Yes, that first job had us salaried full time well below market rate and also didn't give any benefits. Insurance was also a big reason I moved jobs, since I was about to not be able to be on my parents's insurance anymore)

rain apex
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Is it like

sand frost
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Restricted stock units is basically options I think

rain apex
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A promise of stonks later

sand frost
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I recall there’s blackout dates on selling them

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And they probably vest over time?

devout vault
marble jewel
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You have a certain amount that "vests" over a certain period of time. The vesting period is how long you have to stay at the company before you can sell it.

cinder karma
marble jewel
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And if you leave the company, you lost whatever unvested stocks they granted you

sand frost
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The blackout dates have to do with big company announcements I think

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For insider trading avoidance

marble jewel
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I get RSUs every year, and they vest over three years, so I'm pretty much constantly getting staggered payouts from the last three years.

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#finance-off-topic

devout vault
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Insider trading? Back in my day, we traded things outside, at market stalls on the side of the streets /s (I've never been to a market stall, just watching too much fantasy anime lately 😛 )

sonic mirage
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Sounds like a form of job lock-in. I guess it all depends on how much they're worth

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Everyone knows outdoor market stalls are only for adding action to movie chase scenes

marble jewel
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RSUs are definitely a way to retain employees. At least long enough so that the company can let them go on their own schedule.

devout vault
marble jewel
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Thankfully, if they ever decided to let me go, per their policy they would have to pay me a pretty big severance (Since I have tenure)

sonic mirage
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It's interesting to think that you'll never actually get all the RSU payouts since they're always giving you more

marble jewel
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Yeah if you quit they go away, but if they lay you off then it usually all instantly vests

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What is they come up with a nonsense reason to fire you?

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Most recent post I saw was someone showing a compilation of posts of people worrying it'd turn out like Lost and that everyone should calm down

sonic mirage
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I guess watch out for iffy performance reviews

marble jewel
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If you're fired "with cause" then you can lose it all

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So I assume there's some sort of mystery element or something

rain apex
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Thinking about money makes me depressed but I'm glad you explained it to me, better than the official company page did

cinder karma
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(It's fairly difficult to get fired for cause at most large companies)

marble jewel
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I work with Finance so I learned a lot from that

cinder karma
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They have to really produce a paper trail

rain apex
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Insider trading or smth probably

marble jewel
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Yeah it's hard to justify "cause" because historically labor laws favored employees in those cases

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Like if you did something obviously wrong, then yeah it's on you, but simply underperforming is usually not good enough

sonic mirage
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Well that's good at least

marble jewel
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HR would rather err on the side of caution because a wrongful termination lawsuit would cost the company a lot more

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(Though those things I wasn't doing was largely due to underperforming itself, so...)

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Everyone loves a good mental health downward spiral, right???

rain apex
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My last job laid off someone that was definitely a "truck factor" and that made me feel disillusioned with the whole company

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Huh, I've always heard it as bus factor. Truck would do the job just as well as a bus I suppose

fleet wren
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I heard it's planes

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anyone else wanna add trains

safe dragon
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if you manage to get hit by a plane just walking around somewhere that's very impressive

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I aspire to one day be so mentally healthy and competent that I become the load bearing / bus factor employee (though ideally not with an insane workload from that)

marble jewel
safe dragon
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it takes surprisingly little to have a high bus factor honestly

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One could argue I'm sorta like that in SDV modding (though not nearly as much as Pathos of course)

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But comparing to Pathos is a hard to task

rain apex
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I think it comes up more cus of bad management than pure competency

fleet wren
rain apex
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They see you can do all the things and so make no attempt to have a backup for when you leave

pliant snow
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The trick is having a high bus factor is to be a bad employee who guards everything religiously

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(Or work for a place small enough)

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I am glad to be incidental and tossed to a side project for time being at new job it's nice

marble jewel
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I was one of those "bus factor" employees, but at the same time I was very much transparent about everything. It was just something that no one else could understand.

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marble jewel
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Like I was the SQL guy amongst a team who treated spreadsheets like they were databases.

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Spreadsheets aren't databases???? Next thing you'll tell me is HTML isn't programming!

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My mom would be unstoppable if she learned SQL. She can do some insane excel wizardry with power query and what not (and sometimes VBA, though she doesn't understand that super well, mostly just cobbles things together from stack overflow and such)

marble jewel
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As far as everyone else was concerned, what I was doing was voodoo magic

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I mean, to be fair, computers in general are kinda magical

marble jewel
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Like I taught someone how to do "search and replace all" which saved him multiple hours every day

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(I'm of the opinion that modern technology is basically magic, just not in the sense that you typically think of from fantasy and what not)

marble jewel
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I literally showed him that something he took hours every day to do could be done in an instant

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It baffles me sometimes that people don't think to google if there are easier ways to do things

safe dragon
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damn you can search and replace????

marble jewel
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I actually got reprimanded by one of the higher ups because I was threatening people's job security

pliant snow
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spreadsheets aren't databases, but databases are spreadsheets

fleet wren
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I work for a very massive company where bus factor is (rightfully) low. while it does mean I can be replaced easily without a moment's notice, it does also mean I can request a long vacation out of nowhere and my manager wouldn't even look twice before approving

marble jewel
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I started automating a seemingly complicated task using VBA, and they shut it down

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He was one of those executives who ran the company like a family business

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This is really funny to me because both the jobs my mom has gotten since she stopped being primarily self employed have been oriented around automating processes and streamlining things and such

marble jewel
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Anyway, the company I worked for got bought out by a big tech company who I still work for now, and they appreciate my efforts a bit more

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And just about everyone who was getting away with doing nothing is gone

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So in the end I guess he was right

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<insert tangent from yesterday about how I'm sorta the one that "opened my mom's eyes" and triggered her getting into that sort of mindset to begin with>

safe dragon
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automating processes seems to be like 90% of what my company strives to do even if it's not realistically possible

marble jewel
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Ever since I started managing, I've made sure that everyone knows a bit of coding. Even if you don't have an engineering or software developer title.

pliant snow
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Automate the process automation SDVpuffersmart

cinder karma
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I wasn't planning on spending my day in the Javascript console

sonic mirage
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I saved 3 days of a guy's week by adding a feature to calculate cost of goods sold at time of purchase. He used to go back through every purchase for the company and do them by hand. Suddenly every part of the site didn't need exports for him to use in his calcs anymore

cinder karma
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Reminder: I am not a webdev

safe dragon
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I've never experienced such manual environments

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people I've worked with have always cried for even more things to be automated and to remove pretty much any manual process that can be taken away

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# devout vault This is really funny to me because both the jobs my mom has gotten since she sto...

That being said, she still always has at least one side business as a hobby. It's just in her nature - back when we played Everquest II, harvesting/crafting and selling things on the broker (player marketplace) was the main thing she did - she only did the adventuring/combat content to so that she could access higher level areas to make more money. 😛 (Sometimes my twin and I asked for our allowance in in-game currency instead of dollars (though we didn't have a huge dollar allowance to begin with), and she was rich enough for that to be no problem, and sometimes just gave us money anyways. A lot of times we burned it on the collections system, especially my twin, though I really enjoyed buying furniture for the housing system too).

And back before EQ2, when we all played Neopets, the main thing she did was restock and sell/trade things to make money that way. I think she had hundreds of millions of neopoints in the bank (this was well over 10-15 years ago when neopoints hadn't inflated as much), while my twin and I never managed to break a million. 😅

I don't think she's capable of not running some sort of business. All her hobbies these days (currently lasercutting and painting wood) serve her side business.

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That sounds cool

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Yeah, she's got 2 or 3 laser cutters I think? Though one of them broke recently.

She mainly just uses one of them though - a pretty big high end one

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She also has one of the big 8+ colors at once embroidery machines that she used to use to test out her embroidery pattern business (and also make stuff for family, or paid things for her job at the time, etc.)

She loves crafts in general. I'm pretty sure before my twin and I probably before my older brother were born, her and my dad sold wooden ornaments they hand painted

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And her first big business was hand dyed cross stitch fabric - the main one that people used at the time (though it went downhill pretty quickly once she sold the business).

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Once we moved to FL and she didn't have the office to do that stuff in anymore, our house had two washing machines, one of which for the fabric and one of which for normal purposes. (Though they couldn't both run at the same time without Problems ™️ )

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(If you ran both the toilets in the house would start bubbling if I remember correctly - and that's at best)

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My mom is just amazing in general, though I'm a bit biased since the people I'm closest to are my parents and especially my mom in particular. 😛

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cross stitch mention!

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I love cross stitch, hand dyed fabric is so awesome

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Depending on how long you've been into it, there's a good chance you shopped at my mom's business at one point. 😛

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I even know how to cross stitch (at least vaguely, it's been a while) because of how long that business was her main thing. I recall doing a cross stitch cat at some point

vagrant smelt
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probably! that's awesome 😄

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It's quite easy once you remember, easier than embroidery at least

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She started making cross stitch patterns at some point too, though she didn't become a big name like with the fabric business.

That software was so janky. 😛 The dev was really response to issues she encountered and other feedback though, I remember they spent a long time trying to narrow down this obscure issue with fonts in the exported pdfs. If I remember correctly all the symbols were replaced with this weird n or something.

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lot's of crosses and such

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# vagrant smelt It's quite easy once you remember, easier than embroidery at least

She also made hand embroidery patterns at one point when people started asking her to after seeing her machine embroidery patterns. She only did redwork for hand embroidery (is that all there is? I don't know), and I'm kinda baffled people actually bought the patterns since it sounded like they were basically just the image (though I never actually looked at a pattern to confirm that idea)

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The machine embroidery pattern software was kinda janky too, but not nearly as much as the cross stitch one

cinder karma
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How the hell am I timing out trying to grab jsons of <1mb

safe dragon
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you're on 2G internet

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with blazingly fast transfer speeds of 40 kbit per second

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"2G internet? You mean 2Gb, right? Riiiiiiight???? (Please)"

safe dragon
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suuure

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Imagine being transported back to the 2000s but bringing one of the modern call of duty games back with you and trying to convince people to download it and play it with you (assuming it magically worked on those computers). Nobody would bother trying after hearing the file size and would think you were actually insane

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...Were there even hard drives that big back then? SDVPufferThink

safe dragon
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definitely not

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Wikipedia says in 2002 a company first broke past the 128 GiB addressing space barrier

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So yeah, definitely not

sonic mirage
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I have a 2TB from ~2010 so there's that

safe dragon
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samsung announced the 1 TB hard drive in 2011

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In 2007 a company (Hitachi) offered the first 1 TB hard drive (I think? first 3.5 inch anyways), so I guess it technically would be possible hard drive space wise in the late 2000s

safe dragon
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hrm

marble jewel
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Our storage concerns are all solved with these 1GB Iomega Jaz Drives. Why would you ever need more than that?

sonic mirage
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WD had a 2TB in 2009

safe dragon
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though the read speeds would be faaaar too low to actually play that game

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safe dragon
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especially since modern games love streaming data instead of preloading it all

sonic mirage
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Are Jaz drives like Zip?

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Which Iomega also made

safe dragon
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jazz drives

marble jewel
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Same company, higher capacity

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But was considered to be a failure

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Something something bill gates quote myth of "640k of RAM being more than enough for anyone"

safe dragon
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I love how normal it is to me now that I have a tiny little sd card with like 2 TB of storage on it

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It's crazy how fast technology has advanced the past several decades

sonic mirage
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Yeah we had a ZIP drive in our Compaq desktop back in the day

cyan shadow
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When's the framework arriving, Crumble?

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Or as my family likes to joke about, "It's crazy what computers can do these days"

marble jewel
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I just finished watching an anime recently where two of the characters transported to a different world, and somehow their cell phones still worked

safe dragon
cyan shadow
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Hopefully carnaval doesn't fuck up the delivery

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Was that the smartphone isekai that everyone says is really bad?

safe dragon
cyan shadow
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Ahhh

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safe dragon
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nah in the smartphone isekai he is granted a magical smartphone by God essentially

marble jewel
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The one I'm referring to is The Devil is a Part Timer

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...I don't recall his old world even having cell phones?

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I watched S1 ages ago though

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I hear the new season is bad, and so is the source material, so...

marble jewel
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In Season 2 he goes to his old world and brings a cell phone to communicate with one of the other characters

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Oh, huh

safe dragon
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nah he had one on him and ask the god for that to be brought with him into the magical world

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the first season was also terrible

marble jewel
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Yeah Season 2 tried to introduce and resolve like 4 seasons of plot into 4 episodes

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safe dragon
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even as far as isekai trash stories go it was not great

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I too liked devil is a part timer season 1

marble jewel
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They also bring electric scooters to the old world and somehow plow through hundreds of soldiers shooting arrows at them

safe dragon
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wtf

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what happened to that show

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I know it was bad but

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I guess they thought it'd be funny

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safe dragon
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there have been two isekai anime adaptations now about someone who can essentially access a magical modern webshop from a fantasy world and get that stuff transported to him

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Campfire Cooking I think, and the middle aged shopper one from this season?

safe dragon
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yeah

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I have not watched either of em

marble jewel
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From what I've read about the light novels is that they hint at the devil and hero ending up together, but at the very last second he ends up with the high school girl instead.

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I love fantasy (even if it's not isekai), often even when it's trash.

marble jewel
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And that disappointed fans of the series.

safe dragon
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I do love fantasy stories as well and don't have that high of a bar for them

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There's one show this season I really liked the premise of (the "Magic Maker" one), but the direction of the relationship between the two not even close to teen siblings that is shown at the end of the first episode... well, let's just say I haven't been following that show like I had been anticipating 😛

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(And of course it's an isekai of a 30 year old man which makes it even weirder)

safe dragon
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god I don't understand how people are capable of watching jobless reincarnation without being appalled

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Yeah, I haven't even tried to watch it because of the things I've heard about how the main character is

safe dragon
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I don't mind a main character who fuckin sucks but I do mind if that behavior is ignored or even rewarded

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# devout vault There's one show this season I really liked the premise of (the "Magic Maker" on...

There was one anime I really liked the premise/setting of (Irregular at Magic High School) but when I went back to rewatch S1 when S2 came out since I didn't remember it well I just couldn't stand the similar relationship between the two main siblings - it seemed more one sided in that case (no idea if it stays that way as the series goes on) but still was done way too much to not bother me.

safe dragon
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the guy in that one is "too cool" to feel silly emotions like love or really anything beyond mild amusement

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safe dragon
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yeah honestly seen that trope a fair few times at this point

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grew up in a lab or training facility or like special army force or something and they grew up unimaginably competent and every girl wants them

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He also can't do a lot of the 'main' magic because of that stuff (at least in the ways typically measured), but is a prodigy in other ways (but of course is in the lower 'caste' group of the school that's more discriminated against because of it)

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safe dragon
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that's pretty much the plot of most power fantasy series yes

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I have a harder time with harem anime these days, though it's not necessarily a deal breaker in itself (but usually comes with other negative points) - I can deal with it a bit more if it's more one sided and the MC is only actually interested in one person specifically though

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...like SAO 😛

safe dragon
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strangely enough often with the protagonist either being entirely oblivious to this fact or not interested

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safe dragon
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secretly power fantasies are made for the acearo people out there

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I do still watch some anime with harem stuff since it's kinda hard to avoid (especially with fantasy/isekai), but I definitely don't like that part

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Pretty sure there's at least three like that this season (noble on the brink of ruin, strongest alchemist, worthless appraiser but actually the strongest).

(I initially said two but remembered a third as I was typing - I get some of the plot points between those first two confused sometimes, they're both so generic 😛 )

safe dragon
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I am watching the second season of apothecary diaries and orb mostly

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Like, for the first few weeks I would get some of the main plot lines confused between which was which (||one of the religions being evil and going after the MC for using holy magic in an unapproved way, and also training/indoctrinating other summoned heroes|| for alchemist and ||the ending up founding a nation stuff|| for noble brink of ruin)

safe dragon
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oh right and the salaryman doting father guy who somehow reincarnates as the villainess in his daughter's otome game

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that one's fun

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safe dragon
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I honestly have no idea what the three you mentioned are

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these days I get what I should watch from random people I talk to online

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safe dragon
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oh I'm like 3 episodes behind...

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Ah

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I don't have hidive so I've been finding alternative sources

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Only have crunchyroll and netflix as far as services with anime,

safe dragon
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as far as I know there are no legal ways for me to watch the show at all

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There's no legal way in the west to watch one of the shows this season that I'm enjoying (I have a crush at work)

safe dragon
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I think I vaguely know which one that is

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I didn't start watching it until a couple weeks ago but really liked it

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My second favorite anime this season though is probably the receptionist who solos bosses to clock out on time one

safe dragon
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I did watch a few episodes of that but I wasn't really sure if it was going anywhere

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Oh, the new episode for that one today just came out (literally checked the front page and saw it was out, went to the page and it wasn't there, refreshed and it was)

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It does have some ongoing plot now

safe dragon
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would you look at that... I do have a legal platform to watch it

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I love a good story, but fantasy trash I sometimes enjoy even without much plot

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safe dragon
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I also don't have amazon prime video

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Ah. I should have picked up on that since it was talking about the trial in that screenshot you shared

safe dragon
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amazon doesn't really do very much where I live so I don't have prime either

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safe dragon
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amazon desperately tries to gain relevance in the netherlands but unless you want something really niche you basically always have a better place to go with much faster delivery

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damn you're up to date on a lot of stuff

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Like, there's... inklings? Like, they wonder who made the connection possible and also made it possible for him to bring her back, but like, there's practically nothing

safe dragon
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I don't even know what that is

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# safe dragon I don't even know what that is

Tl;dr: MC lives in fantasy world only when asleep for the past several years, one day (beginning of anime) he accidentally brings his elf friend back somehow, so now they both go back and forth. Not sure if they'll end up both returning if they don't fall asleep together though, they haven't really been separated yet.

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safe dragon
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😌

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Sometimes I'll binge shows that aren't currently broadcasting.

safe dragon
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I consistently watch maybe 1 or 2 things

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...But most of the time I'll get 3/4 of the way through and get distracted and never finish the series

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One of my firefox windows has a bunch of crunchyroll tabs of shows I want to start and see if I like (like, at least a couple dozen)

safe dragon
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jeez

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There's at least one show each day of the week that is broadcasting that I'm watching. Usually two, and on a couple days three.

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And I wonder why I have a hard time keeping plot points between shows straight sometimes 😅

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(Also have an issue where sometimes I can't remember if something I've watched/read is an anime or something on webtoon... usually I can try to remember if it actually got to a good stopping point for that, but with sometimes not finishing shows that doesn't always work)

safe dragon
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😌

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safe dragon
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tbh most anime are fantasy

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Really liking the trend of 'otome game' anime that's been happening lately. Mainly for the female protagonist though, I can enjoy the romance still usually, but as a lesbian I'd prefer women as love interests 😛

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safe dragon
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the green yuri manga is getting an adaptation I believe

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The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy at All (Japanese: 気になってる人が男じゃなかった, Hepburn: Ki ni Natteru Hito ga Otoko Janakatta), shortened as KiniOto and more popularly known as The Green Yuri, is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Sumiko Arai. Originating as a short story posted on Arai's Twitter account from July to September 202...

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this one

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not fantasy though

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I heard about that, and a few others that were announced recently (or maybe coming in the next season for some of them, can't really recall)

safe dragon
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lots of more otome oriented adaptations lately definitely

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I remember I'm in love with the villainess broadcasting and then the next season there was the magical revolution of reincarnated princess/genius young lady. That was fun. (I might've watched the former after it finished broadcasting but can't recall for sure)

Those two are some of the few series I've checked the source material some. Didn't finish either though (I'm in the love with the villainess stops at a really good point at the end of book 3 of 5, I think the author was originally gonna stop there, need to read the other two at some point). For the latter I ended up reading through the LN for what the anime ended up covering before all the episodes finished coming out. 😛

fleet wren
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the plot does go... off the rails for the last two books, though the family scenes still makes up for it

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Yeah I heard there was some crazy stuff in the last book recently, can't recall precisely what it was though. ||I think it was something along the lines of watching your loved one die over and over in a time loop and you can't seem to stop it from happening? Could be totally misremembering||

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If I remember correctly the premise of book 4 is the plot continues based on a 'sequel' to the original game

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With ||the neighboring empire invading or something|| after the problems at the end of book 3

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(end of book 3) ||The adopted daughters at the end of book 3 seemed adorable though, funny how they used the slime to work around the magic problems the girls had (if I remember correctly)||

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fleet wren
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it's so funny that ||even though they're adopted they basically turn into clones of their mothers lol||

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yeah, crazy

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Any anime that can begin to compare to the chaos of my dreams instantly gets bonus points

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Mob Psycho 100 was fun, need to watch season 3 at some point

fleet wren
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might even be crazier tbh

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Oooo

fleet wren
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though I just mostly feel bad for the person it happened to, very vaguely speaking

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Not really a 'chaotic' anime but one of my early favorite animes was steins;gate. Hard to rewatch now because of some anime tropes, but mainly because of the episode where they ||revert the changes for Luka||. Last time I did a rewatch I completely skipped that episode.

Enjoyed steins;gate 0 as well, easier to rewatch the anime for that as well. Played both VNs in the past as well, definitely like some of the anime original changes they made to 0 (like ||the entire episode where Okabe somehow ends up back on an alpha worldine where Kurisu is alive - that part of the story in the VN didn't last very long comparatively|| )

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I heard there's a 'remake' of the original VN coming at some point. People are speculating it's not a pure remake and will have some plot points different because of stuff that happened in Anonymous;Code though (something to do with ||all world layers being reset|| or something? I haven't played through it yet)

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(Not even sure what a ||world layer|| is, seems like a concept not really touched on much/any in the wider franchise before)

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I've heard all the other anime of that franchise are pretty bad to varying degrees. I did watch Robotics;Notes and enjoyed it, but apparently it's pretty good when compared to the other two

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Haven't gotten around to any of the other VNs though - I think I tried either Chaos;Child or Chaos;Head at some point (whichever came out first), but it seemed clunky, possibly just due to the age of it.

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Didn't get far into whichever one it was that I tried

strange copper
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I do have a harder time sticking with more episodic shows compared to more serialized ones

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Even my current favorite show (not anime, The Owl House) didn't lean into the serialized nature as much until part way through season 2 (probably when they heard about not being able to a full season 3). Almost every episode does still have at least a little main plot development even in the first season, but I really enjoyed it even more when it picked up on that stuff

vagrant smelt
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the owl house SDVemoteheart my beloved show

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I'm very curious about dana's new show she's co-creating that they published a teaser for recently

vagrant smelt
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I love that show so much, but the last season really hurt- don't wanna talk about it but haven't finished it since a certain event in S3E1 that hit me way too hard

vagrant smelt
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sorry for the ping

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The thing at the end of the episode? Yeah, I can see that, especially if ||you've recently lost a pet||. I'd have to do some math to find out if that episode came out around the time I had that happen, but I remember similar things in stories really getting to me back when it happened (both times).

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No worries on ping, I prefer it

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(Not letting embed since even in the teaser it seems like it probably won't be as kid friendly as TOH... and Dana has talked about wanting TOH to be darker originally, so...)

vagrant smelt
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That looks amazing, and i'm glad she got her wish it seems

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I do think TOH could have been darker and still been just as awesome, the mouse company sucks

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Apparently a lot of people are also excited because it's with the company that did the amazing digital circus? (I've never actually watched anything related to that but I think it's pretty popular)

vagrant smelt
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Oh my friend recommended that show to me, says it's really good

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but I haven't had the chance yet to watch it

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I'm just a sucker for magic school stuff. 😛

Maybe to some extent because of Harry Potter nostalgia (if only the author didn't turn out to be an awful person 😔 )

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safe dragon
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oh zachtronics is back

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well

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"It's not a Zachtronics game," Barth says. "This is a Coincidence game, which is a totally legally distinct game studio."

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The year is 1986 and you are David Sugimoto, born and raised in South Bend, Indiana. Thanks to a family friend, you’re headed to Japan for your very first job at Matsuzawa Manufacturing. Japan’s economy is booming. They’re looking for smart, young, motivated business professionals just like you. You’re going to go get to live that 80s executive ...

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Title result: Kaizen: A Factory Story on Steam

safe dragon
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(Coincidence is just zach and a bunch of other people from zachtronics)

frosty echo
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I thought they said they were done?

safe dragon
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honestly might have just been a way to hide the actual issues going on

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in any case, it's a new zachtronics game even if it's not called that

safe dragon
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ah yes

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I'm sure Operation: Harsh Doorstop was a real risk to other fps games and had to be bribed into failure

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wtf

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never mind this game has 17k reviews on steam

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I thought this was some random ass fps no one has ever heard of

dusty pollen
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if true, I do feel for the dev, but this seems like tactically not the smartest move

rain apex
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wait Operation: Harsh Doorstop is the real name of this game

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i thought crumble was joke

safe dragon
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I wish I was

rain apex
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what does it even mean

safe dragon
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a really harsh doorstop smh

rain apex
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a large and heavy book?

safe dragon
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the doorstop throws insults at you when you open the door

rain apex
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harsh.

safe dragon
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I'm going to assume there's some funky military lingo

dusty pollen
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operation: try to keep your bedroom door slightly open at 3am when you’re taking a trip to the fridge using whatever happens to be on the floor at that moment

safe dragon
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easy

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does your bedroom door close automatically

dusty pollen
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this part of this house is over 100 years old and not the fancy big well taken care of kind KEK it’s more that the door does whatever you don’t want it to

rain apex
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ask the edwardian era ghost to hold the door

dusty pollen
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idk how to break this to you but 100 years ago was 1920 SDVpuffersquee

rain apex
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well u said over

dusty pollen
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by like a couple years

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not enough to count as edwardian SDVpuffersquee maybe the ghost of an original baby boom boomer though

rain apex
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arent those post 1945

dusty pollen
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yeah but I’m sure at least some of them have died

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Modern Era ghost just doesn’t have a very nice ring SDVpuffersquee

rain apex
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oh i was thinking edwardian era ghost = guy who died around 1901 to 1910

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so he become ghost then u kno

dusty pollen
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ohh I get you

rain apex
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but u can have [checks wikipedia] interwar era ghost instead

dusty pollen
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I was just on that page

rain apex
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lad came back from the war then tripped down the stairs and died

dusty pollen
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I’ll get him to communicate by doing a spooky reading of Dulce Et Decorum Est

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content warning: that poem is kinda graphic but, more importantly, depressing as hell

marble jewel
safe dragon
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now that song is in my head

lethal walrus
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why did i try to do the thing that has a deadline with some horrifying mix of bun, webview, react (but just compiling jsx, react doesn't actualyl control the dom) and css modules that never worked so my css is a dictionary in a js file

worn remnant
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i have done css-via-js crimes. i'm not proud

dusty pollen
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all css is a crime and therefore css-via-js isn’t really much more of a crime

ivory shadow
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CSS is a crime. JS is a crime. CSS in JS is crime squared.

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Much more crime than basic CSS

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I really dislike most CSS in JS things.

dusty pollen
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every time I see css I am reminded of why I could never be a front-end dev

ivory shadow
dusty pollen
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is this one of those people who proved css animations are turing complete suslysella

ivory shadow
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Not necessarily turing complete but they have some cool animations and it was the first one I grabbed out of my bin

dusty pollen
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have any of you played a game called Seven Days To End With You? it’s very rough around the edges but it was a fun problem-solving experience, I recommend trying to do it manually for a run or two and then just looking up the solution so you can get the rest of the story lol

safe dragon
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please no more

ivory shadow
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the song will continue until morale improves

dusty pollen
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I vaguely recognise it but refuse to look it up for fear of that getting stuck in my head too

safe dragon
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smart

crystal wren
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I... don't recognise it...

vagrant basalt
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The song?

cinder karma
vagrant basalt
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I was going to spoiler it to protect iro

crystal wren
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...what in the hell.

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YouTube is protecting me!

cinder karma
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We loved this song in middle school

safe dragon
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but I watched it 2 days ago

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oh cause this is the automatically generated "topic" version

rotund violet
cinder karma
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I still love the song. Maybe that's ironic

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I'm also really enjoying "sports car" even though i think the lyrics are stupid

dusty pollen
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royal we

cinder karma
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Me and my imaginary friend-enemy

crystal wren
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I hate that I thought the same thing here.

safe dragon
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math nerds

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I have never been asked any questions like this

rotund violet
# crystal wren I hate that I thought the same thing here.

This one gives me a chuckle because it is plausible that a math nerd could interpret the question that way.

As to the original video: problem glasses, uptalking and a condescending attitude, what's not to love? I'm sure the businesses are all lining up to hire her.

safe dragon
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yeah that's why she's a tech YouTuber smh

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really though she's just repeating a fairly standard programmingHumor meme so who knows if she has ever even gotten these questions

dusty pollen
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(I've heard similar questions be asked, my mum once got asked to estimate the number of gas stations in the country lol. But I think like the caption says, these are just the jokey things she wishes she could say sometimes, not how she actually approaches the questions)

pliant snow
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I got a question like that once "estimate how many cows are in the country". After asking it, the second interviewer turned to the first and told him that was a stupid question. It did not seem to be a terribly well run company

safe dragon
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like 12

dusty pollen
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at least 3

pliant snow
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Between 3 and 12

rotund violet
# safe dragon really though she's just repeating a fairly standard programmingHumor meme so wh...

Yeah, it's a common meme of course, more than 10 years old by now. And the source of the meme is mostly rejected candidates. It's supposed to be funny, but the subtext is: "I may not have the best technical skills, but I make up for it with poor social skills."

Anyway, interviewers don't really ask those questions anymore, they ask regular kinds of coding questions, but it's a whack-a-mole game because idiots keep posting their interview questions on leetcode the next day.

crystal wren
rotund violet
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Not sure if that's a reference to cosmology or pop culture, but either way I'm having trouble making the connection.

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You mean like, in the sense of being a mostly fake portrayal of geek/nerd culture by people who don't understand it?

crystal wren
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Not necessarily because they don't understand it in this case. It's clearly intentionally being that level of silly.

rotund violet
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Could be, though it feels a bit more like reddit bait to me.

cinder karma
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My nerdy friend group used to get together and watch that show

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I could never tolerate that show

crystal wren
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I knew you were my people. SDVkrobusgiggle

rotund violet
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(In that it has the reddit voice of ostentatious disparagement as a paper-thin mask over butthurt and regret)

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Maybe it really is just silliness for the sake of silliness but I used to know more than a few people who were actually like that.

cinder karma
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(I don't know reddit well)

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Just about the only reddit I reddit is r/knitting and r/crochet

heavy daggerBOT
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rotund violet
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BBT is more of "if we replaced all the smart engineers with dumber but cooler liberal arts grads and told then to 'speak nerd'."

crystal wren
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I think it's a well-targeted type of humour that we know will get good engagement for the short, yeah.

rotund violet
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Beyond that, you're not missing much.

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You know how on every old-school forum or group, there's always one dipshit who insists on giving snarky answers like "Google it", apparently unaware that they are the first search result on Google? That's 98% of reddit.

safe dragon
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ironically nowadays I often add "reddit" to my search queries

fleet wren
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reddit is the one major social media site remaining that organizes by communities instead of people. it's also the one major social media site that's still indexable by Google

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as insufferable as its userbase is, those two properties make them the only one that's remotely useful to search around for stuff

safe dragon
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wrong actually... after the AI stuff took off reddit started completely disallowing web crawlers from their website

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so unless the search engines are still getting this info through the API or something new posts are no longer indexed

fleet wren
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didnt they make a billion dollar deal with Google (and only Google)

safe dragon
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oh probably

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though you'd expect something in here to allow partnered businesses or whatever

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something like how youtube has this

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who knows what they're doing though

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I'm sure some money is being shuffled around

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ah

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reddit has made deals with a bunch of different search engines now

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apparently there was a period back then where bing didn't have reddit content on it

fleet wren
rotund violet
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It's true, reddit does still have the most useful search results. Metcalfe's Law and all, but network effects can be broken.

safe dragon
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some random community that for some reason is super passionate about desk chairs will be quite nice

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not always true though...

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r/audiophiles isn't particularly nice

heavy daggerBOT
rotund violet
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It's not just the front page communities, not by a wide margin, though yes I was being hyperbolic when I said 98%.

safe dragon
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oh this is a banned subreddit

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well

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oh it's r/audiophile

heavy daggerBOT
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fleet wren
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I was about to ask what could the audiophile community possibly do to get themselves scrubbed lol

safe dragon
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hmmm maybe the audiophile subreddit isn't that bad

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they just spend a lot of money

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much like the mechancial keyboard subreddit

cinder karma
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Or the knitting subreddit tbh

crystal wren
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Pretty vast difference between those and audiophile audiophiles communities, though...

fleet wren
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hey all check out my $12000 setup that can emulate the voice of god itself

safe dragon
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I've met a fair few obnoxious audiophiles before

pliant snow
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oh crumble

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I've got your new laptop

safe dragon
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why do you have my laptop

pliant snow
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well lenovo has it

safe dragon
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I haven't even paid for it yet

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oh

pliant snow
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oh did you buy one

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you're missing out

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hot new designs have dropped

safe dragon
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I did buy the framework 13 yes

marble jewel
safe dragon
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yes!

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show us aquo

marble jewel
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(bad joke about all of them being obnoxious)

safe dragon
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I know lenovo is quite good at bizarre designs sometimes

pliant snow
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Option A

safe dragon
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hmmm

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that is slightly cursed

pliant snow
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snazzy huh

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idk why you'd want it to do this

safe dragon
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your kid who keeps annoying you while you're working can just watch videos on the other screen on the other side

rotund violet
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Sales.

marble jewel
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