#Legendary Super Saiyan Broly
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it lasts for like half a second youre still in the animation by the time it wears off
and it doesnt affect vanishes
yeah so no good against kefla then
god, broly really is just completely useless against kefla isnt' he
honest to god may just drop him if she doesn't get nerfs
like not to be a doomer, but laning against her is genuinely as bad of a matchup as it gets
Baby's first hard counter
Theres 2 heroes in dota 2, one of them makes a ton of copies of himself making a mini army
Another does more damage the more units he hits in his aoe
Guess how it feels for the mini army to go against that guy
i played dota 2. you can ban heroes in that or itemize agaisnt them.
you cannot do either here.
You cant itemize PL against ES
You could ban him but its not guaranteed
Even if you buy bkb hes just going to wait
Or smoke
Or just blow up your team with your illusions then jump you
I didnt
.
also, PL literally has a 50% winrate against ES right now
that's about as even as you can get.
i wouldn't be as annoyed by this if you could know you're playing into kefla and just pick someone else.
but even in ranked, picks are still blind
so it's effectively a coinflip
The game works by a system that i hate with all my soul
"Latest Character = Strongest Character" Until a new one releases
Kefla's almost unbeatable. If the player using kefla has at least 2 braincells you're not even gonna touch her once
How can Broly kill a kefla that never approaches?
That's the neat thing, you don't
I dont recall Toppo ever being the strongest
Season 1 character release btw
Compared to Gohan, Vegitto, Kefla, SSJ4, Bardock
Also SSJ3
what is the best broly build?
Best broly cards?
I think the best cards are too easy giant slayer and defensive step
He might be a super start merchant tbh really snowballs the most with it compared to other characters
What advice can you give regarding a fight against especially on the reduced vanish cool down draw
It feels difficult to catch her and I end up always relying on teammates with stuns
The only times I've destroyed kefla as broly is when it's superstart or the kefla player is just bad
That's the neat thing
if kefla knows how to play or has at least 2 brain cells you're not gonna kill her with broly
Man
the ammount of dashes and vanish she can do ARE ABSURD
She needs to be burned man
Nerf her so much that even dabura seems like a better pick in comparison
your only chance to beat her is to pray she doesn't max out the Super that gaves her more speed and the Super that makes her dash 90 times
Imagine if the season 4 characters are in a totally different league
Always gotta be praying for superstart
Dude
Kefla's the first character in the gmae WHO ACTUALLY MAKES ANOTHER CHARACTER unusable
It's the first time that happens
it's not even a hard counter
like literally YOU CAN'T USE DABURA against Kefla
Unless kefla intentionally feeds
Because WTF does he even do against her
Even your s2 will likely not reach while youāre getting shot from 9 miles away
If i had perms i would have send the "What does he even do" image
but really
Dashing multiple times, having vanish reduced cooldown, AoE M1, Explosive attacks, fast movement, huge damage
extreme range
dude at this point make her one shot me alreday
already*
Yes
Everything is just a formality
And then they have the audacity to call it a hard knuckled fight
Like IF I SEE A SMALL BUFF FOR KEFLA IN SEASON 4 I SWEAR TO GOD
Dude it's not a fight it's a massacre
THAT KNUCKLE THING DELETES YOUR SYSTEM 34 OUTTA YOUR COMPUTER
So dumb
Letās give her a one shot ult too while weāre at it
Oh wait
she does with full red cards already
like why does she needs to tank or need reduced cooldowns
if she can just dash away
Who needs to know how to play anyway
They have to make his ground punch slow last slightly longer zamasus as well
Ngl his guage should just buff his skills as well so it really feels punishing when he catches you
okay, so. if you pick broly. the enemy team picks kefla. and she's in your lane. what exactly do you do?
fighting her is out of the question
broly's a punching bag to her
do you just try and roam?
Uninstall the game
Pray
Or be thankful that you're not using dabura
i mean at least dabura can theoretically shut off her vanishes for a bit
If it can Even touch her
yeah but that's more than broly has
yeag
What's the devil against the most infernal mosquito there is.
The devil will be free soon
A mosquito that scales multiversally Season 4 is our only hope for survival
#FreeTheDevil
The goat
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whats your build and skilsl max
@twin cradle explain lmao
i feel rn his weakness are that
his energy damage weakness
and how vunerable he is in ult
iv also got a question
when skill 3 boosts
does it only boost the gauge gain or the damage?
If the Gauge gain improves, I honestly don't notice it
But it does improves damage
I dunno, i just feel he's stronger after the nerfs for some reason
I usually just go for a basic triple red build to exterminate rivals, being a glass cannon that can be one-shotted
yes
So both
So we where all stupid for the longest time
Only using skill 3 for the reset
And not using it before using a basic skill for lots of more damage
@naive summit a quick question . I know people say skill 2 is the better max then skill 1
But why not skill 1 first
Skill 2 is nice but it feels too
Commital especially since you canāt vanish or do anything while stomping
Compared to skill 1 damage and range
stomp is just the better move tbh it gives itself a damage boost so your next one after roar just stacks on the first one if i remember right ground punch damage is great but the slow is way too short
it tells you on the site aswell
Wich card is better on 1st slot for?
Build up to survive
So i was doing right, only to confirm, last slot?
Could go with defense step if you need it or pursuer if you're dominating but most times defense step is the way
if you want to go out like a exploding sun pick pursuer if you want to be a normal sun defense step
what's broly's skill priority and cards?
Get S1 and S3 for Kai secure at the start after that max s2 and s1 naturally put points into your ult whenever you can,as far as cards are concerned I typically run build up, giant slayer and defense step if I realize the enemy team is really bad I go pursuer for my third card but defense step is just better in most cases
is S3 just levelled last?
and does broly wanna actually level his ult?
Yeah leave it at level 1 it doesnāt get much better at higher levels
Yes definitely
Itās really damaging and is one of the best moves for teamwipes of used correctly
ight ty
Broly's pod landed with the last log in reward it won't take much longer for the devil to re-awaken for all
i feel like broly not having any energy resistance at all is increasingly becoming a liability with all these energy-focused damage heroes
People were saying that broly getting all defense up instead of useless strike defense would make him too strong as if him having that would fix his problem of being killed at range without him being able to do anything about it
him having such long animations is such an annoying thing
and the fact he has no damage reduction or stuff means while he is stomping , he can get blown up very easily
his ult also offers no protection and he needs to be close range for it to do damage . but him easily being able to get counter ulted / bursted is so bad
Great free character
what cards do you guys run on broly? and im guessing his prio is skill 1 > skill 3 > Super > skill 2?
No skill 1 skill 3 then max skill 2
I use build up giant slayer defense step and I upgrade skill one first then two then super then 3
Skill 2 should always be your priority it far outdamages skill 1 so make sure to max it first
Yeah kinda
so super start go for his skill 2
Yes itās really good
You can Tod characters like cell by just doing stomps into road into stomp again
bro his skill 2 is insane
i got super start while grinding his memories in cpu battles and im destroying them lol
Exactly now you see the light never superstart s1
Although if you ever see kefla or uub be careful try to kill them as quickly as possible
i can also see some sniper oppurtunities with it like keflas skill 2
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it depends bro
skill 2 does a lot more damage yes but trade off in super start is still big like uub can still triple dash away from your stomps and most stomp into full teams and die for it
But it's his main reliable way of getting damage s1 while charging leaves you super vulnerable and doesn't have no obstruction like s2 also I've never seen an uub triple dash from stomps its one of those moves that's pretty much guaranteed to always hit
The thing is uub also doesnāt need to dash away from stomp . Uub with his skill 2 can very much just shred you down like paper while youāre stomping . And you canāt vanish away to cover or do anything else
Iv done this so many times on uub itās not even funny
S2 has no obstruction but what else does it do I know it increases his rust attack range and DMG, I mean it's not like he'll get one shotted and this same issue applies to s1 basically it's the most telegraphed thing in the world uub can easily vanish behind and blow you up regardless
roly need buff
A massive defensive buff honestly.
He gets melted WAY too easily, and although he can put out great DMG numbers, if you're KO'd before you even get going then he's half useless.
holy crap kefla got nerfed to hell. thank god.
skill 1 > skill 3 > skill 1 > rush
Dude is it just me, or does this guy have one of the hardest hitting ults in the game
Yo guys
Trying to understand broly better
And how to utilize his skills more
Mainly his skill 3 damage buff and how it reduces the cooldown of his others skills
If you use skill 3 first and it doesnāt reduce any other cooldown the base is 5 seconds
So is it kind of best to stick to using skill 1 and 3 for more poke/ damage and relying on skill 2 stomp to dodge cc instead of going in .
And relying more on his rush attacks for damage
Id say the tech is s3 roar to start,then s1,then s2,then s3 roar to refresh, s1,and run away with s2 if possible
Idk how you guys time it, cause when I fully charge S1 they running away. Iāve always done S2-S3-S2 and finish with S1 or rush attack
guys is broly still usable?
Yes there are definitely worse characters
You typically just have to be extra cautious against energy characters which like 90% of the cast lol
Yeah
Imo I feel like he needs some buffs
His ult is good but it gets hard countred damage wise by defense step
thats what has been working for me. skill 1 into skill 3 into skill 1 again to build up passive gauge quick and then rush
if they try to run, skill 2 to chase
his skill 2 cooldown is too long with little gauge build up
and combined with skill 3 will make skill 3 cooldown long asf
the skill 1 -> skill 3 -> skill 1 combo isnt that harsh on skill cooldowns while giving decent passive gauge build up
Yeah honestly defense step is just that good of a card I wish they'd buff other cards to give us a reason to use the other 3rd slot cards not running defense step is trolling lol
I honestly started running wicked warrior and it low-key worked although I wouldn't recommend it my skills already dealt like 70% of their HP and my rush attacks were mainly finishing them off
Is this card deck okay for Broly?
Snowball - Don't Suffer anymore - Tenacious pursuit
The hell is that
Prepare to die and persuer?
YEAH IM DONE
I CANT MAKE THIS MAN WORK
he sucks so bad
krilln easy can bully a brole and nothing he can do about it
if he has such low energy resistance
and good base damage on skills
it would be fine
NOPE
skills are wet tissue paper
rush attack boost
who cares
the rush damage reduction means nothing if their next skill does double the damage
taking 12 years to get one kill
Rip
He will get his buff we just have to be hopeful surely they don't hate him as much as cell or gotenks
Broly must get a defense increase in next patch
Might as well play triple red broly I ran triple green just for the sake of experimenting an 3kuās S1 still obliterated me
Running full red I feel is far too risky, at least with build up and def step you can maintain somewhat survivability plus alot of people def can get killed by 3ku skill one
Oh dw I'm not actually going to do it, it was meant to express how disappointing the full green build was and also yeah you're right regarding Goku S1 just being a nuke but my teammates took less dmg and that was the part that surprised me
Personally I like fighting godku and ssj3 as broly
Because they cannot for the life of them fight at close range
True he will win at that range my problem comes with when they never leave their tanks side
I try to catch them and god vegeta has other plans
Yeah true but obviously that's because they know they can't fight close range
Luckily broly can literally counter any CC in the game
Yeah stomps still really good
I made a list of how much it counters
He only needs energy def up and he becomes top tier
And HOLY it counters alot
Wait really can I see it?

- Buu Ult
- Buu Skill 3
- Hit stun attack
- Caulifla Barrier
- Rildo
- Spopovich
- Cell Grab
- Gotenks skill 1
- Frieza (Dodoria)
- Vegeta Skill 3
- Cooler Skill 3
- Cooler Skill 2
- cooler Ult
- kidhan kick stun
- 17 skill 2 (bonus ver)
- baby skill 1
- zamasu skill 2
- Dabura spit
- Basegeta photon bomber
- Gotenks Galactic donut
- Kidhan Ult
- Uub Ult (Candy status)
- EVERY SINGLE BARDOCK MOVE
- AND EVERY SINGLE 4GETA MOVE
- ALSO EVERY SINGLE ULTHAN MOVE
- Transformations
- Kale Ult lunge attack
- Godgeta Skill 2
- Godgeta Ult
- Godgeta Skill 3
- Kidhan Masenko
Epic if we had pin privileges this would be up there
Yeah lol
You stomp when buu ults you nothing happens
I have to try that sometime
He cannot be staggered, pushed, pinned you name it
Yeah it makes him a really good counter to 4geta
Deadass won me a game one time because I deliberately stomped when buu popped ult and it let me no be candy and then pop ult for boss
Since half the time vegeta wonāt be able to do any damage to him
Lmao
Makes him a good counter to all 3 meta tanks
He shreds godgeta
Bradock is all melee and can't be pushed
Same with 4geta
Oh yeah stomp out of godgeta s2
Broly counters them all
And punch roar punch shreds health
He is not built for broly burst damage
True his damage is pretty high if he had defense heād be better than most characters
Vegito really just showed up and stole his whole identity
Broly is a glass cannon with emphasis on the cannon
At the very least he is still a canon
Except when you 1v1 him LOL
Bro gonna be like Oliver vs Conquest
Yeah you can 1v1 him as gotenks lol
This is still a very hilarious one the fact that their latest fight already has 9 million memes of it
I've very much learned all the optimization and strats for him
Not to brag but I am currently the top 3 broly in the game
Damn
Teach me your ways
Invincible does make phenomenal memes


Main thing with broly is simply know how you approach each hero depending on who you fight
Like with godku and ssj3 you focus on stomp and getting in close cuz they can't fight close for anything
Characters like vegito you can just brawl because they cannot deal with his damage
I notice that in these matchups I sometimes get pressured into maxing s1 so I can safely poke especially if my tank isnāt helping
And you can get nasty snipes if you know to use your punch well enough
You gotta play like a shark
Get a feel and see the lines for kills like tanjiro
Interesting
I have a very specific line for leveling too
Which is?
level 3: punch + roar
Level 4: stomp
Level 5: Stomp
Level 6: Ult
Level 7: Skip
Level 8: Stomp + Ult
Level 9+10: Punch
Level 11: Ult
Actually mild change now
There we go
I will take any questions
Yeah I also run something similar to this
Only difference is I donāt skip lvl 7 Iāll try implementing that instead
Realistically stomp is broly best move
And especially for boss
Having a level 3 skill and level 2 ult is far better than one of them
Especially since I'd much rather a level 2 ult instead of a level 2 punch
And also good to note
Charging skill 1 does not deal more damage
Only increases range
Yeah I know that
True getting to lvl before the first boss is something that has been happening pretty consistently
Okok good some people don't
Itās a no brainer that you would want your most valuable moves for bosses at their strongest I donāt know why it never occurred to me honestly
Yeah Iāve seen a lot of people lose kills because they were charging it lol
And better to focus on neutral at level 5 since you are more likely to be hitting 6 at boss and you can level ult then
It's especially good since you can do good burst to steal kai with the double punch
I see
I used to focus on stomp but saw the flaw in it for kai so change it up to what you saw before and found much more success
Oh yeah thatās why we pick roar at the start
Same
he gets shredded by all 3 meta tanks because he has no energy defense
One of god vegetas biggest flaws is lack of damage so you donāt need to worry about death as much and by counter he was referring to how his s2 gives him no obstruction
Bardock doesn't do much energy dmg except ult which you can avoid the big explosion due to stomp
Vegeta basically does no damage and is mainly melee
And since these tanks are cc merchants itās pretty valuable
And God vegeta maybe can be an issue but even then not really
Exactly
Which broly counters hard
Itās his healing but broly has an easier time killing him from my experience
Due to hiw stupid his stomp is
Yup
lol
Saying shredded I feel is a major exaggeration
Itās probably due to energy attacks but most times youāll only have to worry about the dps doing that
Bardock is mostly strike damage and when the gauge is maxed out post nerfs bardock tickles him
Itās only when some energy wielding brat shows up 
Like 4geta is a non problem
However pair him with godku
And there's a problem
However you set yourself up to blindside to godku from behind while your tank distracts the other
Ez kills
Godku in general is an easy kill for me as any character
Anytime I see him I take the under route and destroy him
Especially if Iām 4geta one stun and heās just cooked
Exactly
Doesn't take alot to jump him
Same as kale and 3ku
Only difference is kale can technically fight in 1v1
Triple red is nice but imo is better using red + red + blue (double vanish)
If your plan is escaping from 3ku and Godku S1
Mostly run double green and giant slayer Ive never actually tried double vanish on him
That could work if you're fighting a Godku/Kefla player
I'll try it as well and see how it goes
Alr
I haven't really seen much success in it since I generally play more aggressive and having survivability in combat is much more preferable compared to survivability in running
The build up def is usually enough to win in a fight with a majority of characters
E S E N C I A .
Te voy a golpear con mi
para que sientas la verdadera esencia
you guys liking the turles skin, i really like it just hope it doesnt mean we wont be getting turles in the game
I immediately copped the Infinite variant, although I think I still prefer OG Broly skin, it's nice to have in the arsenal
Perfect character
lol
OG one is awful, i bought the infinite one
buf for roly please
Golpeame con tu
para que sienta la verdadera ESENCIA.
Okay, so how do I play this guy? This Turles skin is OP. What cards and skills should I focus on? How do I not die fast? Last game I felt useless. Was getting roled by 18.
build up, giant slayer and defense step
appreciatechu
If you wanna fight everyone, ig the best option is Snowball + Prepare to die + Persuer
I guess I'm not really trying to fight EVERYONE, per say. What is Broly's purpose? Disruption? Team fights? Securing kills? If Broly's main goal is to fight everyone, then so be it, but I'm not sure if that's it.
Fight in a 1v1 or 2v2 situation
Except if your opponent is the game's villain, godgeta
He's the only char i never fight (at least alone)
Why is that? His kit counter Broly's kit?
Bc he tanks everything, even his combo
The combo is S1 - S2 - S3 - Vanish step (in front of the opponent) - S2 - S1
Not rly
Itās more like bruisers like broly do a lot of damage but broly doesnāt have the burst to kill god vegeta before he gets his passive cooldown resets for more damage and cooldowns and to reduce your damage even more
I gotcha. Thanks for info. I've enjoyed him more than I thought I would. I've been playing Kid Buu and I have hardly seen Brolys on the opposite side. Figured he's be a solid counter with all the AOE vs KBs globs.
Broly < Kale this meta
Broly needs buffsš„
Yah
It was almost always like that
Fell off
"Please Toshi i need this, the meta is kinda strikeless" ahh character
Yeah Broly is rlly bad this season lmao
I barely see his gauge build anymore which there goes his Strike Defense and damage. Dude dies in an energy damage heavy meta. Rough days
Yup, and his nerfed ult is way worse now, yeah it was broken before but if you are going to nerf the best part of the character, buff something else
I've found you can play Broly better if you turn off the in game music and play the soundtrack for his movies
TRUTH 100
absolute peak
but which movies though? are we talking Z or Super?
Either/or, but I personally prefer Z
give broly passive energy defense and change the rush attack dmg increase to strike damage in general so it boost everything but his ult damage
Give him more damage or defense
I love playing him but this energy meta is killing him š
They ruined this guy this is the worst heās been in any season š
he always been this bad lol everyone internalized what his kit means
They never "ruined" him, they just put in a bunch of characters who specialize in energy damage to counter him.
Although his nerfs hit hard, he was still good
He's just a victim of the meta powercreep more than anything
(Yesterday) The devil has joined the daily streak
#š¬submitted-game-feedback message
Broly when the in-game music is playing: šļø
Broly when the song reminds him that boys lie and girls steal: 
broly is still amazing
he never was
lmao
Day 1 broly was good
he just got worse every with patch
and by worse I mean the meta around him
a buff idea for broly is skill 1 gives a modified heavy pressure debuff called aftershock that deals a burst of strike damage and movement speed down. ontop of the original effects of heavy pressure
so they ruined him
is he even good anymore
you should only run him when youre laning with sustain like 17, fat buu or baby
when you do hes really good
Or Zamasu
He's a good teammate por Broly
The only problem Broly has rn is ult's dmg, blast def and the annoying ranges type chars (specially Godku, I hate him)
those problems are fixed if he lanes with sustain
