Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku

[high bloom]

I been playing the new goku for a while and I really struggle finding usage for his S2

It decent as a get away move and has very mediocre damage with meh aoe

Has anyone found a way to use this skill effectively?

[bleak kindle]

All characters must be free, remove the gacha system through capsules and make all those items and skins purchasable, this would please players much more, if all the characters that appear are only through gems I fear the game will lose many players

[wicked saddle]

@/mods

[muted cliff]

Mobility is the big one. I use it as a finisher, or to reposition. Dont forget you can recast to immediately return back to where you were initially too.

Also chasing with it.

I got a gorgeous tripple kill on release day. Hit, Goku, and Cell were all chasing. I turned and dragon fist all 3. Hit dies, Goku jumps to the side, and Cell tanks it. Goku used his Kamehameha, so I used S2 to dive onto him and finish him off, turned and raw fired my super kamehameha to kill Cell.

[surreal escarp]

Does anyone know why I can’t use the ultimate even after I transform until I level up again?

[patent elbow]

because you used the point to other skill

[surreal escarp]

Ohhhhh thank u so much I didn’t even think of that

[muted cliff]

I do that every time aha

[patent elbow]

I think the range of instant transmission will get nerfed, or the kamehameha duration

[muted cliff]

I don't he needs touched until Kale and Goku get nerfed.

[void widget]

What’s yall build for ssj3 Goku

[patent elbow]

people already play him less at least in my matches

[muted cliff]

Super Snowball is so good on him. Then I'll go Giant Slayer if bot lane is having trouble, or I'll go Prepare to Die! if the games just going well. Then finally Pursuer for the bonus energy damage, though idk if that ones worth taking tbh. Might replace it.

[high bloom]

I get limit breaking jump just to help with his movement and escape

[bright smelt]

please emergency nerf this character

[muted cliff]

This is SSJ3, regular Goku is a different chat.

[bright smelt]

youre very funny!

[patent elbow]

he have one skill that do damage from away, Bojack have all skills

[untold mesa]

I think all they should do is to nerf damage on s1 a little

I literally saw Cell getting one shotted from full hp from JUST s1

its so absurd

well, atleast if he falls behind early he will have a very hard time giving value to the team

[patent elbow]

instant transmission make him this good, not kamehameha

go play vs Bojack and see all his skills have this range and much damage

Bojack is fair to have, Ssj3 not, sure

[untold mesa]

one thing doesnt exist without another in that case

[patent elbow]

instant transmission will get higher couldown probably as nerf

since is game changer

you have to use it wise to go in or to escape

this will make him more fair

[bright smelt]

what if... both make him good

kamehameha is broken rn but instant transmission is even more broken

[patent elbow]

on kamehameha you can block with some abilities or go behind his back

[untold mesa]

I would give him like a minute cd

so you either want to escape or rush in

take your risks

[bright smelt]

thats the ONLY "balanced" thing about him right now and thats based off of player skill, not the actual character

[patent elbow]

fair

[muted cliff]

You cant do a minute, some games only last 8min.

[patent elbow]

if balanced teams it last enough

[untold mesa]

I dont see a problem with that whatsoever

Like why he can just tp out when he gets attacked?

Hit can get his ult canceled if he gets constantly attacked

And this guy cant?

[untold mesa]

Well unless I messed up something in my memory but it was canceled for sure.

[untold mesa]

If you want to use funny haha move you should make the right decision and not spam it like an idiot

Like imagine if piccolos s3 had like 2 seconds cd

Would that be fair? Probably not

And you could apply it here

[patent elbow]

Hit is more broken than Ssj3, a player that can think can steal games with him

[untold mesa]

Yeah you can actually argue that honestly

Hit has much earlier poke/kill potential to harass anyone (even tanks)

[patent elbow]

and can go invisible and steal towers without getting noticed, or to kill enemy carry, ult all in team fight, have many pluses

before ssj3 was released I was th inking instant transmission would be his ultimate to be honest

[rich copper]

Ssj3 is so funny bro

everytime i get a snipe with super kamehameha i think of that BOW audio

[young grotto]

i hestitate to call characters broken. but he feels a little over the top.

being able to jump to anyone on the map feels nuts.

his kamehameha does as much damage as regular goku's i feel, but also doubles as a zoning tool given how long it lasts

[torn vault]

My main issue is that he's teleport is not a ult.
He basically ignores the map, can gank top ou bottom to secure kills and objectives in a instant.

[young grotto]

he can literally just jump to anyone that's low an dinstantly obliterate them

how his teleport isn't on liek a 2 minute cooldown, i have no idea

[opal pasture]

I feel like I do no damage

[muted cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/li7LJYa.png

I love this character.

[devout delta]

Nerf when? lol

[paper oxide]

when f2p are able to get their hands on him they'll nerf him lol

[muted cliff]

He doesnt need a nerf.

Upper mid tier at best.

[paper oxide]

"upper mid tier" until people figure him out lol

[devout delta]

that's completely BS

One of the most oppressive characters in the game right now

[muted cliff]

Goku's better, Kales better, Coolers better.

[devout delta]

They are not doing what he is doing

they can kill you sure

but they are not spamming HUGE long range attacks every 5-10 seconds

stopping you from even entering an area

they are not teleporting on you

[paper oxide]

you need like two vanishes to dodge his max super Kamehameha and even then they'll still manage to damage you

[devout delta]

you get a super start and he is melting you in one charge up

[willow eagle]

i think its fair to say normal goku is better but instant transmition is an abilility that nobody else can come close to replicating and if someone is paying attention it goes crazy

[muted cliff]

Goku's Kamehameha is better and doesnt stun him for 2 seconds.

[willow eagle]

gohan hard counter ssj3 goku

[muted cliff]

Lots of characters do.

[willow eagle]

you see him charging and you just heabutt him

[muted cliff]

Any burst character can kill SSJ3 before he even gets to fight.

A18, Trunks, Goku.

[devout delta]

doesn't matter if it doesn't stun him... it lasts longer so you can't move up.. it turns faster than you can dodge out of the way

[willow eagle]

what ssj3 goku actually is

is good piccolo

[devout delta]

if he is right on top of you SURE dodge behind him

but how often is that actually the case?

[muted cliff]

Literally any time he uses IT.

[devout delta]

just play him like piccolo and they will never get close to you

the IT is a problem in and of itself, but that isn't what is actually making him oppressive

it's a part of why

but the Super Kame is just too much damage, range, duration,, aimable.. it does too much too well

[muted cliff]

Who are you playing that SSJ3 is this opressive

[devout delta]

Irrelevant

[muted cliff]

ppffft

[devout delta]

In the right hands and especially in the right team with comms if you don't have anything to shut him down early.. he will carry the game

[willow eagle]

ive played games where people keep trying to fight cooler instead of going for the squishy goku right behind him and he gets ahead

[muted cliff]

So can Buu

does Buu need a nerf?

[willow eagle]

when that happens he jusat kills you from outisde your screen

[devout delta]

Nobody gives a crap about buu

[muted cliff]

Full team heals is nutty if everyones on comms and groups up

[devout delta]

Buu is not blasting a big energy wave two screens long clearing the entire lane

[willow eagle]

yeah but how many buus are actually in that setup

ssj3 goku is alot stronger than buu

[muted cliff]

Not many, just like SSJ3 lol.

[willow eagle]

hes as strong as uub is at least

[muted cliff]

Strong as Uub with half the burst

[devout delta]

That's cap bro

[muted cliff]

and none of the mobility

[willow eagle]

yeah but he also doesn thave to get close

like i said

hes good piccolo

[muted cliff]

Guys you are not dying to 1 Kamehameha unless youre behind.

also

[willow eagle]

no but it still does alot of damage

[muted cliff]

take defensive step

you wont even feel it

[devout delta]

1 Kame and you better go heal

that 1 heal just cost you bunch of XP

[willow eagle]

you could say the same thing for spirit bomb

doesn tmean spirit bomb is bad

[devout delta]

Oh another Kame.. time to heal again.. more XP for the Goku

[willow eagle]

the super kamehameha is good

[devout delta]

I'm not saying he is impossible to beat

[muted cliff]

I do say that, its a great counter to spirit bomb and its a great counter to every single move SSJ3 has.

[devout delta]

but if you let him come online and get ahead even a little bit... you're gonna be very sorry

[willow eagle]

youre talking like ssj3 goku cant do anything

but that isnt the case

hes a good character man

[muted cliff]

He is

hes upper mid tier

[willow eagle]

liek uub

[muted cliff]

But Goku and Kale are MUCH better.

[willow eagle]

a good character

yeah

kale is stupid

no contest

[devout delta]

Kale can get shutdown early

they all can

[muted cliff]

So can SSJ3?!?!

[devout delta]

I can run from Kale

[willow eagle]

but ssj3 goku can be pretty frustrating some games

doesnt help the feeling that hes paywalled

[muted cliff]

SSJ3 cant even use ult until level 7. You have 2 whole levels to DESTROY him.

[devout delta]

I've never even seen anybody use the ult

it's trash

[willow eagle]

no

[muted cliff]

Hes perhaps the 2nd weakest early character next to Cell

[devout delta]

just Kame every 5 seconds

[willow eagle]

dragon fist is prety strong

[muted cliff]

Dragon Fist is giga strong... at point blank

its extremely slow.

[young grotto]

actively hating this guy. you can't gank him - he'll just IT away - you can't contend with his damage output early on, and you can't run from him

[willow eagle]

yeah but he has the teleport in and back move

so its not that hard to land

[muted cliff]

Oh hey free tower.

[young grotto]

when you can push is not up to you.

[devout delta]

The whole convo doesn't even matter though.. he will 100% get nerfed. They did the classic thing of releasing an overtuned character to make you buy it and then they will nerf it

[willow eagle]

i dont think hes overtuned

[muted cliff]

Hes not over turned :x

[worthy aspen]

Funny hing, I once fought a SS3 Goku with Caulifla, he had snowball up to level 4, and was a little but not enough for me to attack him

[willow eagle]

just annoying

[devout delta]

he is

[young grotto]

he absolutely is overtuned

[willow eagle]

nah

[worthy aspen]

I kept advancing towards him, got close, he died

[willow eagle]

kale does like twice his damage

[muted cliff]

Yeah, thats snowball at level 4.

[willow eagle]

with one ability

[devout delta]

You're smoking franks if you really don't think he isn't overtuned

[muted cliff]

you let him stack snowball

[worthy aspen]

he's more frail than I expected lol

[muted cliff]

Oh good

[young grotto]

overtuned =/= damage output

[muted cliff]

Guys im just curious

[young grotto]

he should not have a map-wide teleport as a basic ability.

[devout delta]

His poke game is crazy

[muted cliff]

all of you saying hes OP and needs nerfed, have you played him?

[devout delta]

irrelevant

LOL

[muted cliff]

LOL

[young grotto]

gee, i don't have the money to spend and can't play him in training.

[willow eagle]

i havent played him either

[devout delta]

my favorite word if you didn't notice

[willow eagle]

not pasying 7 dollars

[muted cliff]

Okay yeah, dumb conversation lol.

[willow eagle]

but he isnt unbeatable

i have mor eissues with kale and cooler

[devout delta]

Yeah you can beat him

I've beat games with him in it very often

[willow eagle]

and he isnt anywhere near as strong as they are

[devout delta]

but there are times when you see him come online and it becomes impossible to do anything

[muted cliff]

SSJ3 Goku is so OP Krillen kills him instantly when he walks into a bush.

[devout delta]

Cap

[muted cliff]

Bro Krillen is giga strong

[young grotto]

the problem is how hard he snowballs

[devout delta]

I know

I love Krillin

[muted cliff]

Where you been? Hes a top tier.

[willow eagle]

ssj3 is like trunks honestly

[devout delta]

I've probably have 50 hours of Krillin alone with betas till now

[willow eagle]

is he gets shut down he never comes online

but when he does come online he just kinda runs away with the game

[young grotto]

i still say he needs his IT on a much longer cooldown

[worthy aspen]

far as I can tell, he has good damage, but a little slow, I don't understand exactly how he works, but the only time his IT jump scared me was when I had an ally SS3 Goku, ironically enough

there I am in top lane, an incompetent Uub disappeared, and I'm trying to hold back the other two

then he suddenly shows up and helps me kill them lol

[muted cliff]

Telling you guys though, if they have an SSJ3 thats doing good, take Damage Step.

[willow eagle]

i feel like in IT gets nerfed too hard he goes from a good character to a meh one

like bojack

[devout delta]

I'm gonna take damage step in every game now and see how it works

[worthy aspen]

honestly the most eyebrow raising thing about IT is that he can use it while getting beaten up

[muted cliff]

This is one thing I'd be fine with them changing.

like if hes being rushed attack it shouldnt work. He slips away though? Fair game.

Like he is strong, but hes also the safest character in the game.

[worthy aspen]

I think he could still teleport away while getting attacked, just mke his teleportation take like, an extra second or two to happen lol

[willow eagle]

also

why is his second ability so terrible

it never looks like it does anything

[muted cliff]

Its an execute. Lower their health the more damage it does.

Never open with it.

[willow eagle]

how low you have to be

never seen it kill anyone

[muted cliff]

I wouldnt do it until theyre under 30% unless its to stop them from flying.

[worthy aspen]

But yeah, I can't say how strong he is, so far, the few times I saw him, I wasn't too threatened

His IT kamehameha was what I expected too, more of a jumpscare lol

it can be nasty if he finishes you off though, but if he doesn't, he might pay for it lol

[willow eagle]

ive had some fights in lane where he just appearsd and takes what should have been an easy fight into a sure loss

but out of like 15 games thats happened twice

[uncut onyx]

so what helpers are we running
I'm still figuring that out lowkey

[hallow fossil]

nail makes his already op rush attack even better imo

[granite sparrow]

this guy is laugably broken with a coordinated team

[uncut onyx]

yeah I'm thinking it's Nail

I was thinkin he'd benefit from Botamo but you can patch out whatever use you'd have for him with better plays

[void widget]

Purser card doesn’t work on ssj3 tho

[void widget]

It’s hard to activate

[muted cliff]

I agree

[void widget]

Honestly I hate that we can’t see the combos in game

I know all red cards boost all damage stats

But is there a better combo for him

[muted cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/xc9xJnn.jpeg

[granite sparrow]

anyone else use backstab to combo with IT kamehameha or just me

[muted cliff]

:x thats messed up, I like it. Hows the cooldown when you do that?

[charred knot]

I played a few matches of him (granted D - C rank) but even then, way too busted. I definitely see him getting nerfed like crazy. I wish more people would utilize his teleport to help out between lanes though.

[void widget]

He is mid, don’t get it twisted because he does insane kamehameha damage, if the opponent dodges behind you or uses a mobility skill, you’re done

I do see him being very high skill ceiling tho, so a good player might be able to cook

[high bloom]

Yeah I agree he has high damage potential but he isn’t as versatile as many other characters

His ult is meh regardless of it damage

Get behind him and he is fodder

You aren’t going to carry teams just amplify your team is performance

[pulsar marsh]

Im not blow away by his performence but its fun to play thats all that matters to me^^

More important now when 2nd dmg player takes frieza saga Goku i can pick SSJ3 or reverse 🤣

Now perfect team is 17 goku x2 and cooler

Or gohan on tech role and califla on tank

[rich copper]

I really like threeku’s passive

[quiet lichen]

I dont think so

[quiet lichen]

that's not possible unless they were level gapped, I tried 4 stacks of snowball, max passive, giant slayer and I barely reached vegeta half HP

[reef kayak]

His Super Kamehameha with Super Start is absurd LMAO

fought hin in my recent match and...its...yeah surprises me many times

didn't die by it at the start but still

[orchid rose]

Goku with a good Caulifla, Cell, Or Vegeta is goated

[granite sparrow]

5 seconds.

so an almost 50 percent cooldown cut on his main damage tool..

[patent elbow]

yeah, you have to play safe vs that in early

[reef kayak]

I never expected it to have such range

[orchid rose]

I don't understand why they don't show numbers for cooldowns and health

[tall granite]

What lane does Goku want to start in?

[patent elbow]

anything is fine

is better to have a meele with you since you are range

[tall granite]

For some reason whenever I ping bot lane, my tank will go top

[patent elbow]

even if tank or not

[loud compass]

If Top and Gotenks come out and you have to pay for every new character, this game is gonna die off😢

There's gotta be a way to earn them

[steady nymph]

technically they are all free

[tall granite]

Is Gekishin everyone's first moba?

[spare tide]

For me a good advise is to put this mecs on teleport : if you get hitted you cant teleport out, not like now u can do what u want, when u want

[patent elbow]

I wont buy them at release, I dont care about them, I will get them later for free

if you really like one, you can just stop eat fast food once and keep the money, take the character with that money, I do it like this

[spare tide]

They sayd they wanna put new characters on the reward of leveling, but i didnt see yet in the rewards list of characters

[patent elbow]

next season, not now

they delete them from shop and put them there in star collection

[spare tide]

Oh so in season 2

[patent elbow]

and make star collection be like not that long as it is now

you also get weekly gems, so you can keep those gems for a character or to use them to get premium pass forever

[spare tide]

They must to start to think how to increase the ratio of getting zeni, because if you exclude battle pass, you will get not a lot of zeni, especially after lvl 5 to build up characters, and for example rewards from badge instead of give 100 points must to give at least 300,

[patent elbow]

the prices are very reasonable, really cheap compared to other games

[spare tide]

Because before was 10 points for match autofill, now its 30, so that mean x3, so its no sense for the badges to still keep 100 only

[loud compass]

Well that's the issue, they haven't shown where/if they'll be earnable. So far it looks like you have to pay for it

[spare tide]

Especially if you start to made epic badges, need a lot of games for can get only 100

[patent elbow]

yeah, this too, or we will make a level very rare

[patent elbow]

they did say, is confirmed

star collection

[spare tide]

I just didnt understand for level 4 what mean KO Log when u unlock it

[loud compass]

Oh are they just waiting until Top and Gotenks get in?

[patent elbow]

the figure looks better and in game didnt see difference, I guess when you KO an enemy is a little different

or idk

[spare tide]

We knows something about level 7 and 10 what will be?

[patent elbow]

the figure will look even more different I guess, and I think the KO log is actually the thing under the figure

[spare tide]

I see

Anyway actually as a rank S player, nearly SS, i can say they must to nerf so hard goku ssj3

[patent elbow]

yeah is top tier along Hit and Cooler

[spare tide]

Its not immortal because its very squishy, but the skills he got, he is a game changer

He can melt all team including tanks without any problems

With one single spell, thats ridicolous

[patent elbow]

Cell and Caulifla have abilities that stop his kamehameha

it just blocks

[spare tide]

I know but if he hit you max range you dont see when start

[patent elbow]

the thing is he cant move when he do it, so Hit can kill him in that time

[spare tide]

Or maybe u already use that shield meanwhile u fighting

He got some counters ye

[patent elbow]

the problem is the instant transmission more, Bojack also have big range on all abilities and damage

you can just go push, and if someone attack your tower in base, teleport to them

and defend

[spare tide]

Ye but bojack is slow as hell

And if you harass him he dont have any escape and he is dead 100%

[patent elbow]

right

[spare tide]

if u compare bojack ult and kame of goku ss3, goku win

[patent elbow]

Goku can even use the dodge to stop his kamehameha

they should nerf this to cant use

[spare tide]

Teleport on all the map istant, and after that full charge kamehameha, wtf is that

[patent elbow]

this is good only if enemy is low, if is not, they can just walk in your back

but many just run and take damage instead when they can kill you

[spare tide]

Well if you got good positioning behing your ally is amazing

Because you hit from safe spot

And u destroy all

[patent elbow]

it depends, is not hard to focus you

[spare tide]

If u are very far ye its hard

When u full charge

[patent elbow]

if you teleport at me when Im full hp and I am Trunks or 18 I instakill you faster

[spare tide]

Its pointless to go on c18 or trunk

[patent elbow]

even if I am half hp

[loud compass]

Hit can also counter him well enough, just gotta monitor S3's recharge

[empty scarab]

ssj3 kamahema needs a longer c/d i don't mind the damage, but a high damage move shouldnt be able to be thrown out every 5 seconds

[void widget]

Dodge

He is a sitting duck after

[charred knot]

Oh trust, that happened a few times. Just sidestepping definitely eliminates the danger for the most part. In team battles, it'll be hard especially at a range though. + world king? Deleting characters is no problem. The versatility really just comes from being able to teleport though. 1hp? Teleport to a teammate near base, objective? Teleport near an enemy, etc

[empty scarab]

this sounds like cope, just for him to fire another one right after

[charred knot]

Oh Hit is definitely backcap king. Especially with the random grass divine rule(?)

[charred knot]

This 100^^

[rich copper]

Buff the damage on ssj3 gokus 2nd skill

it does noooo damage

[void widget]

Mobility skill or dodge one of the two and you would save them if you see him

Besides he needs to charge it

[empty scarab]

again, even if you dodge hes throwing another one right after, and he dont have to charge it

[mellow nebula]

Throw another what

[timid turtle]

Just put the ideal divine card combo in the chat

[patent elbow]

it does when enemy is low only for execute, but you have to predict where they will run

[tall granite]

Is Goku just straight the best chaser in the game?

[untold mesa]

I honestly think its 1A and 1B characters situation

Because Hit and Cooler are definitely worthy for this claim

for me at least

[orchid rose]

Kale is surprisingly good at hunting people down in Berserk

She can get hits through the GoD barrier without taking damage

[untold mesa]

AAAnd thats exactly why, any character can be countered

Even this guy

[orchid rose]

She gets countered by Rilldo and frieza

And any areas with a crap ton of NPCs

[tall granite]

I was just musing tbh because I'm actually wondering if it's just better to save the kamehameha (because you're essentially a sitting duck) Throwout your Ki blasts from behind your tank or DPS and if they run finish them off with IT Kamehameha

[tall granite]

Pretty neat video imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVxdBIt2pY

[opal pasture]

What are the cards yall like to use

[eager thicket]

Kame needs to be nerfed, it's like piccolo's special beam cannon except the size of the moon and moveable.

[muted cliff]

It also stun locks you for 2 seconds straight and you can easily be killed in that time.

[uncut onyx]

Ive been going Snowball, Prepare to Die, and Backstab
But I've been messing with other third cards

Sometimes I'll take Wicked Warrior or LBJ

[short adder]

dragon fist?

because kamehameha isnt THAT bad

to dodge at least

[eager thicket]

dragon fist is worse because the damage it does is like

instant

[short adder]

yeah

i think it should be like spirit bomb or whatever vegeta's move is.

tick damage

[paper oxide]

Meet privilege-man!

[mighty nimbus]

Ssj3 goku is broken stop the cap

[paper oxide]

that's what I'm saying Lol

[muted cliff]

Upper mid tier at best.

Goku and Kale both way better.

[toxic pecan]

this mf is worth 7 usd btw

[pallid edge]

What does upgrading IT do?

[tight crag]

Horrendous to play against, horrendously fun to play as

[muted cliff]

I love the character.

Probably my main this point despite playing tech initially.

He's a carry though, if you shut him down early he's not strong at all.

If he can get ahead and stack snowball he's strong.

[tall granite]

bigger range, it's essentially a whole map thing

[green blade]

ssj3 such horrid game design

[reef kayak]

I can handle him sometimes, still absurd but funny when he messes up

[patent elbow]

so many players that just buy ssj3 and just so trolls in the game and keep losing my matches, while other say he's broken

[untold mesa]

For me it took some matches to get used to him

[patent elbow]

no, there are too many weaks, is like we always have minus one striker in team because he really do nothing at all

[untold mesa]

I really noticed that SSJ3 has a really hard time getting coming back to the game if he is at disadvantage

Hit has easier time doing that though

[untold mesa]

SSJ Goku if he is in trouble, one good team play and he will be even with enemies

Just had a game like that yesterday

One good cell ult from my friend and my spirit bomb = we are BACK back

For SSJ3 he HAS to land IT + s1 to do something and even that its not guaranteed that he will survive and use ult afterwards

Thats the issue for him to come back into the game

[untold mesa]

Unless he has like 17 + cell back to back ults or something (theory crafting)

That can back him up significantly

He is easily S tier character for me due for him to keep the advantage so easily.

But once disadvantage happens it can be rough sometimes

SSJ Goku is easily the most universal character in the game

His come back potential is so good man...

[untold mesa]

Its also really funny to me that people one day were saying that Gokus ult is kinda easy to dodge, but then it literally never happens lol

Idk why cant they accept that his uls is insanely good

Its like if I would say "SSJ3's s1 is not that crazy!" But then every fight happens in a tiny corridor + people throwing a bunch of ults too

[patent elbow]

I also use Caulifla and her 3rd skill blocks a lot of Ssj3's Kamehameha

Cell Arena blocks the entire cast

[gaunt star]

yeah, you dodge damage with it. You warp behind an enemy who's in the middle of a directional attack and completely dodge it

[sleek kayak]

build for ssj3 goku?

[gaunt star]

standard dps built depending on your team and survivability

if your team allows you to die often, dont take snowball

if your team doesnt open up the enemies to prep them, take giant slayer

[quick shale]

What’s the best combo for Goku move wise

[patent elbow]

there's no combo

[pulsar marsh]

It into s1?

[untold mesa]

2 buttons...

all it takes..

[quick shale]

Which 2 ?

[left kestrel]

don't have ssj3, at least not yet

but for super start, i was thinking if s3 would be good for it

cause i've seen some people build the s1 to level 2 when starting off the match and getting to level 3

and u don't get ult anyways til like level 7

so s2 won't be neglected

[patent elbow]

yeah so good that you wont do damage not maxing the only damage you have

and with super start being the most broken thing, sure, not use it

[simple hound]

I know you use super start for kamehameha

[quiet lichen]

No

S3 will be a waste

You won't even be able to fully use it

Lv2 already covers more than half of the terrain

You can't even go to the other half

Lv3 only becomes valuable after you destroy the front towers of the enemy

[patent elbow]

I did teleported from base to base and I died to enemy angels

and you cant escape from their base

xD

I think you can go in their base only with ssj3

[vestal trout]

anyone else run Gekishin High on SS3 Goku

[quiet lichen]

Chance of that happening are low

Because that requires to for the enemy to be exposed

And it's pretty hard to be exposed beyond the barrier

[quiet lichen]

also you could just

Use the teleport to base button?

[vestal trout]

yea after getting Instant Transmission to level 2 it should be the last thing you get to level 3 imo

the only time Level 3 would be good I think is if you are respawning and can teleport to the dragon shell but

that relies on you being dead

[quiet lichen]

I level it once I destroy the front towers

[vestal trout]

I debate between going S1 twice at the start or S1 and S2

I think I lean towards S1 twice

[patent elbow]

you have couldown

from our base to enemy base I did mean

I used on enemy Gohan while he walked in base

if they have Zeno in base, you see them

[vestal trout]

S1 -> S1 -> S3 -> S3 -> S2 -> Super -> S1 -> Super -> S2 -> Super -> S2 -> S3

is what I do

[patent elbow]

I think this is recommended when you pick auto too

[quiet lichen]

No I mean you could return back by using the return to base option

[patent elbow]

I just said the angels kill you

and it kills the same fast they heal you in your base

you dont have time to do anything

[quiet lichen]

Personally I go s1->3->S1->S3

[patent elbow]

and if you are in their base, there's also a wall

[quiet lichen]

Just in case I need to escape or secure a kill

[vestal trout]

I can get that

A lot of people don't use the uncharged version of Kamehameha

I think

That version is still really good

Also everyone expects the full charge

[patent elbow]

cases where you have to use it uncharged are rare

like you see someone pretty close at you while charge, you stop the charge to hit them then dodge back

just 3 more days for update, we'll see if they nerf

[untold mesa]

Are you sure they are gonna emergency nerf

I just thought balance patches will be only for every season

But in other case every 3 weeks would be cool

Hm

[untold mesa]

Oh boy imagine if they are gonna hit us with another piccolos drip from driving license episode

I would insta buy it

[patent elbow]

Is not emergency, they said the game will get updates and changes every week

[untold mesa]

Not balance changes though

[patent elbow]

Emergency would have been if was too strong

[patent elbow]

How do you know

[untold mesa]

I mean they would already done that when released piccolo and trunks skins?

[patent elbow]

Other mobas do changes like this too

[untold mesa]

Yet they didn't

[patent elbow]

They did

Piccolo buffed, Frieza buffed

Goku mini buffed

[untold mesa]

The patch for the season 1 update

Not for just weekly existence of the game

I mean we will see but like...

[patent elbow]

Season 0 dont count, they said after season 1 will get every week

They stated this

[untold mesa]

If its actually weekly balance changes it will be so crazy

[patent elbow]

Can be minor changes

League do this at every 2 weeks

Minor or big

Depends

[untold mesa]

They can turn Buu into a real character perhaps

Hell, even Bojack in no time

But to be fair he needs so much buffs its sad

Might as well rework ult completely

[reef kayak]

going around his Kamehameha was so funny that I k.o him cuz of it lmao

[flat falcon]

if you wanna play super safe u can go solid barrier 2nd and lbj 3rd

[gaunt quest]

How do you deal with this dude

[wicked saddle]

Get behind him

While he khh

He's basically helpless cuz of the long animation time of his super khh

Stagger stops his khh

Barriers stop his khh (as they should)

His IT khh has a fixed direction (which is behind), so using that knowledge, just get around him and yea

[left kestrel]

Ahhh gotcha, so s3 is best for mid to late game

[flat falcon]

actuallly u can aim the it kamehameha

just gotta do it fast

[wicked saddle]

Ik but most people will just tap it then aim afterwards

[flat falcon]

then dont be most people

[wicked saddle]

I don't have him...

[flat falcon]

[patent elbow]

once I did instant transmission kamehameha on an ally that was fighting and instead to be auto aimed at enemy, was at my ally

[patent elbow]

SSJ3 became soooo annoying because so many players lost my GAMES playing THIS character, is so unfair that noobs buy the character thinking is broken cuz lost vs him, then they lose with him because the REASON they lost is they dont know to PLAY the GAME, not a character problem

[crimson onyx]

Heads up, Caulifla's Barrier Skill shut SS3 DOWN.

[patent elbow]

we know

is not the only thing that stop the kamehameha

[untold mesa]

And sometimes they dont know that Goku needs to hold position outside of IT kamehameha

[muted cliff]

Ya know who REALLY counters SSJ3 Goku?

SSJ3 Goku.

Wait until they do the super kame, then IT and kame them lmao.

[tawny dune]

@patent elbow Soooooo, new players picking up a character because they look cool or love the lore makes it unfair.....hmmm. Interesting take, I guess.

[patent elbow]

I didn't said this, if you cannot read clearly what I said, then nobody can help you

[tawny dune]

@patent elbow SSJ3 " THIS character, is so unfair that noobs buy the character thinking is broken cuz lost vs him, then they lose with him because the REASON they lost is they dont know to PLAY the GAME" yeaaaaahhhhh....kinda did, lol. Maybe not word for word....but yeah, lol.

[shrewd junco]

I just pulled mvp 3 in a row with ssj3 goku. Ive had him since he dropped. Played vegeta before him. Im loving him so far. Ive been beaten as him too

[agile spade]

SSJ3 Goku is a hit or miss depending on which character you're up against. For example, final form Frieza is fried against him, but Perfect Cell or SSJ Vegeta can take him down easy with their restrictive moves and tanking.

As a reference, he's the only character I've used since the season started lol

[obsidian blade]

Imo i think any arguement against him being op is dumb. The character itself has way too much movement. Ive played him maybe 4 or 5 times and havent died. Just stay at the edge of your range and auto attack the entire game, use kamehameha when safe to do so, ult for big aoe damage and secure, and skill 2 and IT are used to reposition or get away.

[agile spade]

I'd agree with you mostly in this case, but keep in mind that not everyone plays SSJ3 Goku like that. I will give that a shot though and see what you're talking about.

[obsidian blade]

Ye lmk what you think. i come from pokemon unite and all attackers are played this way, when mega mew2 y came out it was the same kit as this and was disgustingly broken when paired with a healer

Oh! I use clouds to charge kamehameha, just snipe from clouds behind tank

[agile spade]

If only my team were a little smarter...

But I can see one big flaw that ssj3 has now, it's his reliability against 2 or more people (up close). His tanking is pretty trash.

Think of this, ssj3 goku vs two enemies at a god of destruction when most or even the rest of the team is at the enemy god of destruction. He kind of fumbles, unless he can land a devastating Kamehameha, which can also not work.

My conclusion is that ssj3 is pretty op as a background damage dealer, but I wouldn't classify him as a one-man army or anything like that, as he can be taken down by a decently smart player.

As another reference, I'm damage rank C3

[inland tusk]

I wouldn’t say he’s op but his full screen beam gets a annoying fast

[still bluff]

whats the best cards to use with him

[devout delta]

The problem with SSJ3, besides being overtuned, is that he plays very selfishly. He rarely follows up on dives or rush attacks, relying almost entirely on spamming Kame. This leaves his lane partner stranded and often gets them killed. As a tank, I find early game especially rough with an SSJ3 teammate since they don’t commit to single-target plays—it’s basically “Kame or nothing.”

[muted cliff]

What do you mean by follow up on dives?

[loud compass]

That's moreso the people who play him rather than the character itself

[obsidian blade]

You can cancel khh at any point by using vanishing step

[wicked saddle]

I mean you can do that ig but like unless you have lbj and on a mobile enemy comp, that vanish ain't gonna do nothing to save your butt

[obsidian blade]

I mean just vanish out and it though

[wicked saddle]

It depends on the situation ig but like, we always catch that ssj3 lacking so idk

[hot pasture]

Leveling order?

[glad current]

Only problem I have with goku is the instant transmission its far beyond op and Always prevents me from killing a goku

Everything else pretty balanced

[loud compass]

I think it's goofy that he can instant transmission to Hit while he's invisible, cuz they literally talk about not being able to sense his energy in the show

[wicked saddle]

Unless he's marked, ssj3 goku can't IT to hit while in stealth

[gaunt star]

obviously?

why tf would he?

[vestal trout]

It's that people think he does

even though he doesnt

[wicked saddle]

^

[vestal trout]

Does this character have a good alt color

like

these are some weird color combos lol

[honest crest]

Number 2 color is dope

Bascially dark red gi with black shirt

[wicked saddle]

I think everyone has those specific color combinations like red and black, yellow black, green white(?) or purple

Just to make a team of those specific colors

[fluid plume]

So i got ssj3 goku today but i don't really get how i should play with him

[cerulean depot]

Then theres cell

[honest crest]

Stay away
Dont get hit
Spam s1

[lunar kernel]

Play him as a sniper, don't get close. He's not a character you want to get close to the enemy with. He has a fairly weak early game, understand that once you're using your kamehameha you're generally stuck in place so if you do it in the enemy's face, they can get behind you and it's basically a free kill for them.

Use IT as both an escape tool but also offensive. If you see your other lane engaged, you can randomly jump in and help win that lane.

[fluid plume]

I understand thank you for the advices

[gaunt star]

you can vanish out of the kamehameha animation, you dont have to stay in place

[untold mesa]

I mean if you count battle pass

[shrewd junco]

I am loving ssj3 so far!

Can't wait till gotenks!

[lunar kernel]

I know but vanish has a CD and then what? What're you gonna do? Nothing, my entire point is basically that if he stops using kamehameha he's mostly a sitting (IT) duck

[wintry pagoda]

Go double vanish on 3rd card

[lunar kernel]

You're still not going to do anything while your kamehameha is on CD, that's my point.

[tall granite]

That's why limit breaking jump is probably a must on him

[white mulch]

Nerf this broken champ

[bright smelt]

Fr

[shrewd junco]

Is double vanish better then going all attack card for the boost?

[untold mesa]

Neither of the lvl 3 damage cards really fits him

Pursuer quite literally doesnt work om him properly and the rush attack is just meh

Should just go double vanish atp

[shrewd junco]

10-4 good looking out brother. Thats also better then anything defensive. Ive been going snowball, giant killer, double dash

[wicked saddle]

That or backstab since he likes to tp and khh

[limpid breach]

What tier in the star collection ssj3 is gonna be in?

[scarlet zephyr]

t1 most likely but they did state that they will shift the collection a bit

so I'd asume that we also get the ulocks on lower tiers then it is rn

[solemn turtle]

For this reason it's probably better to hold off on upgrading collection as f2p

[scarlet zephyr]

I wouldnt asume so - unless they genuinely want to have an outrage

I'd asume that your collection gets updated and any that have been unlocked previously will just be given to you to choose

since you CAN just "store" hero unlocks

[solemn turtle]

Oh you think?
It caps out at 118 so I assumed they would just expand the number with more items.
(Can't look at it rn) so let's say gotenks gets given as a tier 1.
You could either get it at say 124. OR not upgrade the collection and get it at 50 - assuming that's where the tier 1 is

[kindred fractal]

Need advice for this character

[untold mesa]

about what exactly

[kindred fractal]

Well, level up order. What cards to use, what my strategy is in a 1v1

[untold mesa]

always max S1, leave S3 at lvl 2, max S2 and ult whenever possible (you should skip ult if you are about to max S1)

SSJ3 goku is not a 1v1 character at all

just run or counter attack someone with IT who is getting atacked by your tank for example if it will kill

[untold mesa]

If he tries to 1v1 he will probably die fast

snowball, pursuer/giant slayer/barrier, double vanish

[gaunt star]

or the one that boosts your damage on vanish if you aren't sure in your survivability enough to make use of snowball

[gaunt star]

and also backstabber works great with IT kamehameha

[digital bison]

assuming you got every other character unlocked. tier 119 (starting at tier 49 it takes 10 tiers to reach the next character unlock) however if he's added as a tier 1 character then he'll be an unlockable choice people at tier 31 and 109.

[patent elbow]

some players on ssj3 in low ranks when I play Technical, just never use instant transmission, lol

[gaunt star]

99 actually

you run out of the lower level characters before you hit 109

and when there are no more characters to choose from from a bracket it chooses from the one higher up

[shrewd torrent]

I wanna buy ssj3 but I feel like when he becomes f2p he gonna be buns

[lunar kernel]

While i understand the thought, he's not the only broken character in the game. Look at how much they buffed frieza for example. They obviously aren't trying to go for perfect balance, but more of a ''everybody is broken'' type of approach

[shrewd torrent]

So the marvel rivals approach

Cause I accidentally pulled his legendary finisher

I want him bad

[gaunt star]

that dont even make sense bru

they are only releasing 2 more characters this season, they arent gonna hard counter him lmao

[lunar kernel]

He's basically saying he wants to p2w without a chance for him to get nerfed

[worthy aspen]

They're not doing that well considering how some characters are like

[scarlet zephyr]

So do people still think 3ku isnt a problem in here or did the same people who said that just quit the game :p

[echo arch]

he isnt as good as we thought -> hes extremely broken nerf him instantly

and i have it

[timid turtle]

Nerf him immediately

[scarlet zephyr]

him kale and baseku all need a nerf tbh

they are all equally broken in their own rights- Baseku the most but still

[bright smelt]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

Ong he needs to be nerfed

[solemn turtle]

Me squinting at gotenks cause you know he combos with ss3 👀

[uncut onyx]

Boutta get a Dragon Fist flavored donut

[dreamy brook]

Nerf SS3

no sense character

destroy complete the game

infinite teleport

kame scroom

etc

[echo arch]

Top 2 since ssj goku getting merged

Nerfed*

Him an d18 dominating the damage role

[muted cliff]

I still say he doesnt need it.

If he doesnt get ahead hes fine.

[dreamy brook]

The damage is not the problem. The problem are the skills

He have a unlimited teleport

He can back and go to line in one second

it's insane

[lunar kernel]

It's barely a nerf + it's more of a rebalance and we still have to see the numbers.

[glad current]

Wish they made my goat free to play

[crimson onyx]

I ASCENDED TO SUPER SAIYAN THREE!!

I GOT HIM TODAY AND HE'S FUN AF

[scarlet zephyr]

u just finna be squinting at that cuz you want me to escalate more when we stack :P

[scarlet zephyr]

saying 18 dominates the damage role is funny when cooler still exists. but lets put that aside

[kindred fractal]

Kinda fun to IT to someone protecting the dragon ball and just snatch it before they realize

[brisk void]

bro hes so op

[lunar kernel]

Use Solid Barrier, makes him do sad damage if he IT's to you to kamehameha

[olive path]

man this hero is a blight on the game

[gaunt star]

oh. my. god. gotenks will probably be able to put his ghosts on top of a ssj3 goku and let them teleport with him.

you're gonna have ssj goku teleporting on top of you with baby inside him and gotenks's kamikaze ghosts behind him

[crimson onyx]

nah, you can't hang with super saiyan 3

anyhoo, just locked in and won 3 SS3 games in a row

I'm starting to get a handle on it...!

[olive path]

if by locked in you mean picked the hero and collected your free wins, sure

[crimson onyx]

He is pretty squishy

[pulsar marsh]

Snowball, barrier, backstab?

[lunar kernel]

If you don't... Who will ?!

[crimson onyx]

I KID YOU NOT I JUST HIT A TEAM WIPE WITH DRAGON FIST

[paper oxide]

this Goku should also of been nerfed too . Him being able to instant transmission to towers your defending is such bull

like you can't do anything about it cuz either way he's getting chip on towers too

because that's fair and balanced!

[muted cliff]

If you stand outsize Zenos view of the tower he cant do that.

[paper oxide]

i was in Grass and another teammate was outside of the grass for a second .

[muted cliff]

So SSJ3 is OP

Because you cant do anything about it, but you did do something about it, and your teammate messed up, and you guys got punished.

[crimson onyx]

I JUST HIT MY FIRST QUAD WITH SUPER SAIYAN 3 I DID IT

[crystal umbra]

When is he gonna be finally f2p?

[lunar kernel]

Not until the season is over

[brisk void]

How do u counter this guy?

[pulsar marsh]

Solid barrier

[crystal umbra]

Just go behind him, easy counter

[brisk void]

bruh

[crystal umbra]

Tbh any damage dealer beats him unless it's Another ssj3 goku or Kale (kale stinks)

[brisk void]

yo

[crystal umbra]

?

[crimson onyx]

Kale is great, tho she is squishy. HOWEVER, while playing SS1 Goku, I landed a LVL 2 Kaioken Spirit Bomb on her, almost an OHKO. After that, I took her out with a finisher.

But compared to the SS3 Jumpscare, it's not even close lol

[lunar kernel]

Kale does the damage instantly, goku doesn't

[crystal umbra]

Man, Kale is simply made to chip enemies health so the teammates can wipe them off easier.
As for SSJ goku... Kaioken and spirit bomb WIPES and there's no stopping that guy

[mellow nebula]

KALE? LOL

😭

[lone lagoon]

bro how do you guys play ssj3

so difficult bruh 😭

[grim briar]

What

[wintry pagoda]

Does Rildo taunt stop his kamehameha mid beam?

[limber apex]

I don't think so

[crimson onyx]

No it does not

[rustic hazel]

wassup guys

[lunar kernel]

Stay back, never go in melee distance, level up his first skill, shoot it from either afar or IT + kamehameha while a fight is busy to get the jump on them

But you are a glass canon, stay back most of the time

[crimson onyx]

EXACTLY how you play SS3

[pulsar marsh]

Yeah dont fight 1vs1 better snipe them with s1

[crimson onyx]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

And a tip; Use the S1 to snipe the kai.

[pulsar marsh]

I tried to snipe with unlocked camera but its hard on PSN, plus already got 100k score on him so won't play him agian fast since want to farm zenis^^

[wispy marten]

Build and skill pls

[crimson onyx]

S1 > S3 > S2 > S1 > S2 > Ult > Ult > S1 > S3 > S2 > S3

Build: Snowball, Solid Barrier, Backstab

[wispy marten]

Goat tysm

[wispy marten]

Wait You write 4 Time s2 🙃

So when I take it or dont

[crimson onyx]

mb mb

[wispy marten]

No

Problem

[wispy marten]

So the third ult at Last

[crimson onyx]

yes

[lone lagoon]

but like should you go with tank or tech?

[crimson onyx]

w h a t

[rustic hazel]

depends on your other dps

[granite panther]

lets be real, game will not survive so long as this character and hit exist

with super start there is no counter play
hits for half hp and cant contest

[lunar kernel]

That's a super start problem, it's just an insane thing to begin with

[crimson onyx]

And unlike EX Cell Jr., it's balanced since BOTH teams have it

[worldly stream]

SSJ3 mains, how do you deal with Hit attacking you?

[crimson onyx]

Why do you ask?

anyhoo, I get out of Hit's range, and try to get an advantageous position.

If Hit is low, A Warp Kamehameha is enough to kill him.

[worldly stream]

got a teammate that mains SSJ3 and complains non stop that Hit kills him without him being able to do anything.

Usually when I play Hit they escape me with IT or the jump unless they are already damaged but maybe I'm not good enough as Hit?

[worthy aspen]

deserved

[rigid bear]

Not pay to win. I read my case

[regal jackal]

Do i need to say anything about this Broken super racist 3?

[mellow nebula]

Yes. Say that Kale is superior.

[regal jackal]

His kamehameha is Op as fuc

His dragon fist can Solo team wipe if they're all together

Also makes it Easy destroying bosses

Truly a P2W character

[coral stone]

he is.

With gotenks

[wintry pagoda]

What does Upgrading IT do?

[crimson onyx]

It increases the range of detection.

EX: If an ally is KO'd by Cell who's at low HP, you can IT to that Cell and finish them off!

If it was at Lv 1, you'd barely get some range. At LV 2, it covers a majority of the map. AT LV 3 IT'S THE WHOLE MAP!!'

[mellow nebula]

Spirit Bomb can solo team wipe if they're all together ._.

Kale's Ult can

Only Instant Transmission Kamehameha is OP

[regal jackal]

Nah

A single Ult can make her go back to normal

[bright smelt]

c rank

[worthy aspen]

Kale's ult is honestly more of an early game powerhouse

it can still kill brutally late game, but it's less likely given how much damage everyone will be doing, not to mention increased ranges overall

[crimson onyx]

Main tip: Keep some distance between you and your opponents, but don't be afraid to KO a straggler.

[red estuary]

Does SSJ3 have a preferred lane to go on?

I don’t have him yet but he looks like a more bot lane character right?

[crimson onyx]

Yep. I mostly go bot unless Gotenks is going top.

[jaunty quiver]

Honestly i run him mostly on top lane and it works pretty well

[red estuary]

And what cards do you run on him? Snowball, Tank Slayer, Limit-breaking jump?

[coral stone]

Pay to win. That it.

[red estuary]

The strongest divine card: the credit card.

[coral stone]

Zeno bankrolling Goku

[silk scroll]

Guys. Stop to play Ssj3 if you play only Kamehameha. Most of Ssj3 players are bad with him

[jaunty quiver]

I use Snowball, Giant Slayer and the double vanish one

Works pretty well

But if you are getting caught a lot in some fights run solid barrier

[red estuary]

I figured

Any replacements for Snowball in case I start loosing early?

[bright smelt]

Tf does this mean lmao

[red estuary]

I guess it means use the other skills?

[wintry pagoda]

I mean no reason to still get rid of it, as late game one perfectly timed IT Kamehameha can get you like 2 stacks in the middle of a team fight

[red estuary]

Fair enough

[crystal umbra]

Who cares abt the P2P characters if you can just hardcounter them with cooler-

[left kestrel]

alright to my ssj3 players

how do you guys deal with your counters or people getting up close

cause i'm a caulifla main, and i#ve been able to take down a couple of ssj3s that go bot lane

this ain;t to come down here and boast, moreso thought about when this guy will become a trial character and i will be in the same situation

[brisk inlet]

Usually use the support that push you away and kamehamehamehamehameha

[left kestrel]

Ohhhh botamo?

Yellow bear

Yea that makes sense tbh

[brisk inlet]

Yep

[worthy aspen]

That drop attack can be used to escape

obnoxiously enough it can be used through walls, so y'know, use walls to escape

[left kestrel]

oh that's interesting

[crimson onyx]

I keep as much space between them and SS3 since Caulifla is a HARD counter to him early game. I've just had to just leave to get my skills to untarget her.

[dreamy flax]

Can't wait for this stupid f*cking hero to get nerfed

[grave mango]

If his kamehameha attack was nerfed 35% damage it would still be way too oppressive

[high bloom]

Probably going to get a cooldown nerf as well

He has two things going for him which is IT and S1, nerf that heavily and he is the worst character

[heavy lintel]

The Kamehameha urgently needs a nerf 💀

I feel like his ability, combined with his mobility and damage, puts the opposing team on the ropes. I know he'll be nerfed at some point, even if he's probably added to the Star Road, but he really needs a nerf urgently, in my opinion.

[worthy aspen]

He'll only be nerfed once he's not pay to win exclusive anyways.

[crystal umbra]

Probably, yeah

[worthy aspen]

I mean, season 1 is going to end in just about a week, I'll be more surprised if they nerf him before that

[celest radish]

I hate this guy lol; always having to be in the back away from damage just to spam Kamehameha or then IT/kamehameha smh

[solemn turtle]

Weird take.
Hate the sniper character for sniping

[regal jackal]

i hate it too

Usually they play like a coward rat

Waiting for u to be low hp to then It kamehameha you and get snowball

[solemn turtle]

I mean you want them to be in melee instead?

It's not the players fault the character was designed this way.

[rough nebula]

it's more in the fact that the countinous stream of damage of super kamehameha feels more like burst damage with how much it can deal

myself play piccolo safe to get snowball, but he doesn't has 2 good movility tools to run away of certain K.O.'s

[solemn turtle]

No i get that, he is way overtuned.
But again it's not the players fault he was built this way, and like you said piccolo is a sniper so getting mad at player for also playing it safe in back is kinda weird.

But yes alot of the kit should be nefed

[celest radish]

I just get salty with that spam from the distance SS3, but it’s not thattt hard to go around him while he’s firing the Kamehameha bc he’s locked there, easy to get kill him early game, but you right bro I can’t hate really

[worthy aspen]

He's not locked there, he can steer it and cancel lol

[celest radish]

I meant he can’t move

He’s stuck firing it

You can get around him and attack

[worthy aspen]

he can vanish cancel it

it's a big reason for SS3 Gokus to use limit breaking jump, more cancels

[celest radish]

Gets him to stop it which is good for the team if he’s the enemy

But still can go around him

But I know man

[worthy aspen]

Yeah that can happen, but that cancer having such a move is still, yeah

Hopefully snowball gets gutted someday, gut it and by extension SS3 Goku will be hit the hardest, alongside SS1 Goku and Trunks

But SS3 Goku still needs a lot of nerfs, he's the most unfun character to fight

[celest radish]

He really is, I have problems with him and Frieza or him and Buu bc Buu just gives him life, and with both Tech’s speed they can clean up his damage

Trunks hits hard too, but he ain’t it in this meta unfortunately

[worthy aspen]

Trunks has weaknesses, SS3 Goku has pretend weaknesses

[celest radish]

How to you face super start Goku with Frieza

I hate this guy randomly doing It/Kamehameha

[worthy aspen]

probably play as defensive as possible and have a vanish ready in case he does kamehameha

by play defensive I mean, either be near your tower more often

[celest radish]

Ya man

Sucks when Frieza puts his boys in front of my god

[lusty latch]

Do you think that goku ssj3 Will be available at the beginning of the season 2 ?

[bright smelt]

Yes, for purchase with gems lol

[high bloom]

Unless they update the star pass then yeah I don’t see him being free

[worthy aspen]

He'll probably be a tier 1 character anyways, so he'll be free once you get to level 109 lol

[high bloom]

Sounds like we won’t have enough zeni for it 🫩

[worthy aspen]

definitely not, to go from level 4 to 5 you need 3500 zeni, with 22 characters, that'll cost 84k, and seasons 1 and 2 only gave about 80k

and that's assuming you already have everyone at level 4 lol

[sly dragon]

Devs these players are dumb he doesn't need a nerf

[worthy aspen]

He's barely a glass as is anyway lol

[valid drift]

Definitely does. More like balance changes instead of pure nerf

For eg buff his rush attack a bit and add a range limit on his lvl 1 s2

Overall nothing major is needed

[crimson onyx]

Our boy got nerfed

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku NERFS

Skill 1: Super Kamehameha
• First hit DMG decreased: 720/800/960 → 450/500/600
• DMG of follow-up attacks increased: 90/100/120 →
130/130/130
Instant Transmission Kamehameha
• First hit DMG decreased: 720/800/960 → 540/600/720
• DMG when used as follow-up increased: 90/100/120→
130/130/130
Skill 3: Instant Transmission
• Instant Transmission destination moved further from target: 0 → 1.5m

[gloomy forge]

i feel like solid barrier is best counter against SSJ3 instant kamekameha

[sly dragon]

This changes everything hes the worst character in the game now

[gloomy forge]

he less burst

nothing stopping you from use atk buff then kamekameha

[crimson onyx]

He isn't as doninant as before

but he is pretty damn good

[high bloom]

He ain't as annoying anymore but still a late game menace none the less

[wary seal]

Idk he already was very easy to get around and kill now he is a fish. But I will say very good gokus won't feel this much as they play very technically and go for dedicated snipes in isolated fights

[coral stone]

Translation :"THAT MY MAIN DPSS EASY TO PLAYYYYYYYYYYYY 😭"

and good nerf

tired of this unskilled pay to win character

he got what he deserved

[pulsar marsh]

Wonder how many dudes got mad coz when he was pw2 he was busted now f2p and a lot worse xd

[sly dragon]

he trash if your not good even before the nerf

glass

1 misplay and you die

[coral stone]

"Glass" 😭

saying that when barrier is a thing

[sly dragon]

Remove barrier it's a handicap anyways

Two seconds of free invincibility is stupid

[gloomy forge]

More like you pay2lose

Or pay4lose enjoyment in game

[pulsar marsh]

Idk it was easy to get afte march MVP or 100k score with SSJ3 in seasson 1 for me🤷‍♀️

There only was 1 rule when playing him to avoid 1vs1 just play more sniper and wipe groups

[gloomy forge]

Snowball, barrier, lbj, and dont engage alone is not that hard

Struggline is also nature of game and enjoyabld

I guess most ssj3 player dont understand

I was maining dabura in S1

I read his kit

[gloomy forge]

You guys really does not using his kit at all

I can see how to play him already

[pulsar marsh]

Im lost tbh you saidn he is pay to losse, i said its easy to win with him and tell tell that we dont know his kit🤷‍♀️

Also im backstab is better for dmg

[high bloom]

You can switch solid barrier for gaint slayer

not only does his passive deal damage to higher hp enemy but your going to be staying behind your teammates

[jaunty quiver]

If you have SSJ4 Vegeta on the team he is really good against SSJ3 Goku

The barrier he creates completely negates the Kamehameha

[gaunt pivot]

having trouble early game as this character

kinda just went like

0/8

with 17k damage

[wary seal]

Dabura, trunks and cell so far have been the only comp to make me playing ssj4 feel like my defense might not be enough. Very solid but his kill power doesn't make him op. I feel like in solo queue he might work but that just does not sound fun 💀

[regal jackal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOWS THAT SUPER RACIST 3 PLAYERS?!

YALL GOT NERFED!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[wary seal]

Super what? But yes the nerf on the burst is rough but he still is high A tier easily. Goatku gonna good for a while

Kale is probs next on the chopping block sadly next to piccolo.

[high bloom]

Biggest nerf in the game history along side a character to counter him yet he still feels like a top 3-4

He isn’t ignorable nor an easy target which is a bar that no dps should cross

[worthy aspen]

Yeah, IT is still obnoxious and all lol

[upper rampart]

the sheer utility of being able to just show up anywhere with a massive beam in the chamber, or flee to the other side of the map if ur getting chased, is something i feel like isn't gonna be matched for a WHILE tbh

especially with 4geta's new barrier, it makes getting behind enemy lines with IT so much more valuable

[slow mica]

Bro I’m loving using this guy

[gaunt pivot]

im not

i just went 0/7

for real

what am i doing wrong

[wary seal]

Play back, use camera

Learn to snipe using the map and not ur screen

Once u get to the point where u can use map and sound to hit Kamehameha u will be much better

[gaunt pivot]

i either go back too far and they walk out or im too close and i get rushed down

[wary seal]

Gotta find the middle spot, them getting out isn't bad just means u need a bit more comms to keep them in. Charging it to max let's you get all the DMG at max rng maxing out it's poke potential

So don't go close try further and slowly ease closer till u find a good area. I say lvl 2 beam is when you can snipe but for it to be rly effective 3 is better

[gaunt pivot]

when im level 7 should i instantly unlock dragon fist? at that point i feel like i really need it for bosses but then in turn i feel like im always lacking in every skill

[wary seal]

U need it for back yea what other skill would u want to grab instead, ofc not the IT

[jaunty quiver]

Yes, his ult is too valuable

At lvl 8 you get Lvl 3 Kamehameha

And get Kamehameha at lvl 2 as soon as possible when the games starts

IT at lvl 2 covers almost the entire map

Twin dragons fist you can leave it at lvl 1 for most of the game and it's fine

[shut oyster]

That typically the what I'll run for Divine Cards: Snowball > Giant Slayer > Backstab for optimal dps & cooldown reduction

[granite panther]

sit under tower or rotate dps members

[shut oyster]

or run into bush and Dragon fist backwards. If no dragon fist & no tower, just die if you didn't instant IT.

[sudden rose]

So is he cooked now with the nerf?

[lunar kernel]

Not at all. The only thing that changed is the initial burst a little bit, but he's still top tier, still strong, still snipes from ridiculous distances. IT didn't get touched. Small damage nerf that practically you don't really notice.

His issue was never that initial burst. It's the huge distance, the width of the beam and the IT

[sudden rose]

ahh gotcha, whats his recommended card set?

[lunar kernel]

Snowball, solid barrier and backstab is what i use

[sudden rose]

thx

any advice early game?

[lunar kernel]

Stay back lol. Snipe from a distance and use IT to gank other lane

[sudden rose]

thx

[dreamy current]

Same. Really like that combo

[wary seal]

Strong still just not op. Very good but he can't just on tap u not more😭

[sudden rose]

Is skill priority Kame, IT, Dragon fist then Metor fist?

[lunar kernel]

Yes

Once you get IT up to level 2 you can basically teleport to the other lane so you can also prioritize IT level 2 > kamehameha > dragon fist > meteor

But early game i'd get all 3 skills first

[west rover]

They can definitely buff now

[sudden rose]

@lunar kernel Ok, I had a really nice game with him, I think I kinda understand how to use him, (still unsure about early game cause he just gets bodied on the kai meetup), but after I get ssj3 and max skill 1 or at least lvl it to lvl 2, strat to just stay out of danger, unlock camera and just look for enemies who are distracted and snipe with kame?

[ivory oxide]

Worst character in this game after nerf

The only good thing about it now is the ultimate ability.

[lunar kernel]

Sometimes early game really depends on which lane you go and how good your partner is, but yes he's very squishy early game so your best bet is to bush camp and charge kamehameha and stuff like that and if they go for you, get out with meteor smash and vanish

[jaunty quiver]

SSJ3 is still rlly strong

even tho the meta today has everyone tanking a good amount of dmg

he´s one of the few dps that can keep snowball

[sudden rose]

I guess strat early game would be to camp, fire kame then kill farms?

[jaunty quiver]

yes, early game is where he was hurt the most by the nerf

[sudden rose]

Thx

I really want to get better at making decisions with him cause I’m tired of going 0/3-4

Or like the main thing that I screw up with is ITing to snipe at the wrong time

[sudden rose]

Ok I tried backing off and farming more Ads after we hit the Kai and I went to help top lane and I got some more farms that way which I think helped me get to lvl 7 #✨game-moments message

[sudden rose]

Would anyone like to hop on and help me practice more with ssj3?

[regal jackal]

I wish

But nah i dont even know what was the nerf they made on him but hes still super broken

[worthy aspen]

The nerf slightly toned down the initial damage of his kamehameha, but it does more damage if he does most/all hits

it also has more cooldown

that's about it

[sudden rose]

What do you do to try and get kai first?

[sudden rose]

@lunar kernel what helper do you use for ssj3?

[dreamy current]

Charge from afar, as close as to ur tower and snipe with Kamehameha. If not super start, then wait till kai is low but if super start then go all in. I dont sweat it if we lose kai. As 3ku I keep farming until I get lvl 7 asap. Try to get lvl 5 or 6 before first boss. Sometimes I get to 7 and then go for the boss

[sudden rose]

ahh ok thx

[sudden rose]

Which helper do u usually get?

[dreamy current]

The attk buff one. I put him down against bosses. Helps u secure the boss faster

[sudden rose]

thx

[past field]

Best divine card setup for him?

[sudden rose]

snow ball solid then back stab or the lb jump

[lunar kernel]

Like others have said, i believe it's the mayor, the one that does an attack buff if you put him down, by far the best, the one that smashes walls was useful too but i believe that one is nerfed hard and lost a lot of its appeal without the heal item start

[sudden rose]

ah thx

[dreamy current]

Idk why people still use him. Metallic dude. Him + buns divine draw was really good but without that draw and when they buffed the attack that the mayor gives, he's the best option rn

[sudden rose]

I’m finally getting better at staying alive longer early game!

Instead of lv2 kame, I’ve been finding success in keeping kame and meteor and just holding rush and twin dragon smash if the dps is low

And then snipe Kai

[dreamy current]

I try to max twin dragonfist last. Kamehameha first then IT then dragonfist(ult). Sk2 is my last priority. Sk2 doesn't hit that hard. Its main purpose is to escape. Kamehameha lvl 3 makes u one of the best farmers and ofc gives u that stupid range. And IT as u lvl up, increases ur range of coverage. I think with lvl 1 or 2 IT u can switch from nappa to 16. And max IT u can go from ur dragon shell to enemy dragon shell lmao

[sudden rose]

ahh ok thx

[plush sphinx]

Yoo need friends to play on playstation 18*

[agile spade]

PS18 lol

[gaunt pivot]

40 years later, gekishin squadra 5 releases for the ps18

ultimate gohan is unchanged

[crystal umbra]

Piccolo ain't gonna fall off easy im afraid

[wary seal]

yeah his kit is just extremely annoying, movement paired with slows and a double nuke built in is hard to deal with, my only idea is they change how sbc works or they just drop the dmg to the point that he is a danger but not a menace

[crystal umbra]

"I. AM. THE DANGER" 🔥🔥🔥

[uneven siren]

I just unlocked 3ku, anything I need to know? Any reccomendations for Cards or skills to prioritize?

[dreamy current]

Snowball barrier backstab is the most common card set. But I'm testing build up giant slayer and backstab. Its actually good if u make use of his low hp passive. Skill priority is Kamehameha dragonfist and IT. Twin dragonfist can stay lvl 1. Its real use is to just run away

[uneven siren]

Hey hey, thanks man. Just what I needed to know

[uneven siren]

What about WW? since his basic attack is ranged

[dreamy current]

Yea thats also good. My friend uses WW but I prefer backstab.

[uneven siren]

My Piccolo is Snowball, GS, and WW. So I was curious

Cause Piccolo just S3's for the boosted basic attack for some CDR anyways

[dreamy current]

Ye

[uneven siren]

Thanks again dude and Merry Christmas

[dreamy current]

Np. Merry Christmas to u as well 🎅

[uneven siren]

@dreamy current Tried your advice, is a fun chharacter. Glad I picked him for my level 75 over 4Heta and Ulthan

[dreamy current]

Niceee. I waited throughout S1 at lvl 30 dude to ulock him day 1 lmaooo. Now I'm waiting at 59 to see if they drop 4ku ui or fusions maybe for the upcoming dragonball event or potentially during anni. Until then I can use 3ku to my hearts content

[prisma egret]

chat is ssj3 still good?

i play him since his release which is fun but idk why im struggling after his nerfs like man.. 😭

[lunar kernel]

The defense meta really gutted him even more

[regal jackal]

I use on him the same cards i use on Kale

Snowball barrier and lbj

[dreamy current]

I can see why people say he's fallen off and he definitely has fallen off but he can still cook.

[prisma egret]

I main him but goddamn this meta is not for him HAHAHAH, he can't push and also have a hard time securing lord like man...

[gritty bison]

I think his Slam and Kamehameha should get a damage boost...

And also a Halo Style for the Fusion Reborn Movie

[celest radish]

His Kamehameha got a nerf cuase he was doing too much damage from too far

[stuck forge]

Just started playing Goku last night and I've notice I turn into a piece of paper when they get close. Any advice to stop getting folded in my gi?

[lunar kernel]

Dont let them get close lol. Hes incredibly squishy by design. Stay away. Engage from a distance

His kamehameha starting level 2 has a good range and lvl 3 is bonkers

[stuck forge]

Makes sense. I've been using his fist ability to escape just in case. Should I be using it to finish ppl or does it have other uses?

[lunar kernel]

Use it as an escape 90% of the time

[stuck forge]

Well, I've been using it to finish low runners.

Okay, so I've been using it correctly. Noice.

[lunar kernel]

Only use it offensively if youre guaranteed a kill

[stuck forge]

Card suggestions? Been using the preset and I'm still relatively new to where I don't quite understand their uses.

[regal jackal]

The same ones i use on Kale

Snowball solid barrier and lbj

[stuck forge]

Thanks for the info. I'll give them a try.

[lunar kernel]

Backstab as your third card is better i think because if you hit your kamehameha from far when not in battle it almost resets the entire CD allowing you to spam it

Snowball is only good if you dont die. Only use it if youre able to jot die

[dreamy current]

Yea his secures are not good. I think rn u need to play him like a pseudo defender. Guard ur flags while keep searching with IT. If u see someone on low hp pop and boom

[stuck forge]

What would you use for the first card then?