#Super Saiyan Kale (Berserk)
1888 messages Ā· Page 2 of 2 (latest)
then back off a bit
if you see a good opportunity aka they used ults and nukes
use the limit breaking jumps to get in, ult then go in with double jumps
or if you see them low
Kale's damage is insane
she could 1 tap if hero is half hp
with ult
goatpo?
Indeed.
who?
the O is silent/hushed like in Kakarotto and Hitto
you could easily be talking about any character who ends in the letter P š¤£
Shes so easy to kill bro
They gotta buff her health
Hence why I play from range like a little rat!
Oh ur serious? Toppo
I wish they buffed her visual i hope if she comes back in the story she's trained to be the size of the oter saiyans at resting point
Fuh no
Her Ultimate attack is just transforming into a bulky abusive woman on testosterone and Holding down the X Button while killing everyone on the map including the narrator
True
as opposed to all the bulky abusive men on testosterone? why do you have to bring transphobia into it?
What_
There is nothing unclear about what I said. Move on if you can't handle it.
That is the ONLY good explanation so far. They still could have spelled it any way they liked though. Could have also added clarity to the word play by calling him something more punny in English. A lot of the names are in English already so it seems cooler and like you have to think about it a little more. Maybe it could have been a pun on the Japanese word for Pot to flip it around.
Like Vegeta was always supposed to be intentionally English sounding, most of the Saiyans besides the word Saiyan itself are English wordplay more than Japanese
The Ginyu Force is far worse of a issue with this imo than Pride Troopers. The entire joke of their names is abandoned in English basically
On Kale subject RIP to diving Angel/Destroyer zones as Berserk. Fun while it lasted
How is any of that "transphobia"
It's not about being unclear, it's about you randomly bringing up something that has nothing to do with what was being spoken about
š
He literally said she's a bulky (muscular) woman on T (cause she spontaneously grows her muscles)
what part of that has anything to do with trans people
not a single bit of it.
You just accused bro of being transphobic when he said not a word about trans anything
That is weirdo timing.
Wym?
I'm not debating hatespeech with you. Stop harassing me. Move on bigot.
Show me the part where I harassed you. Then show me the hate speech.
Then show me the bigotry.
see my previous reply
i am begging you at this point stop harassing me on all your alts
Not being able to defend your own ignorance isnāt grounds to say Iām harassing you
???
I donāt even know you
What are you talking about now?
Youāre the one that randomly and falsely accused him of transphobia
You wanna Tell me goku is a abusive man whos taking Testosterone?
Whys Bro saying that you harrassed himš
frr š š
Deadass š
facts š šš½
Buying specific emotes with ex tokens would be really cool
wish we could buy anything other than special skins
its so garbage i still dont have anything good for Kale
but i keep getting 5 dupes of everythign
Same! Iām after kales emotes but get gotenks infinity emote on repeat
Now toppo start is all I get
I don't like any of outfits they offer honestly. That kind of stuff used to be complimentary
like where is the Yardat costume for Goku anyway
theyre so slow with outfits
I agree
the skins are pretty mediocre for a lot of the characters
They're getting carried by the fact they're hand picking skins for the popular characters
DBS Broly outfit on Kale would be fancy. We did get Celipa outfit on Caulifla only reason I think they might. I wonder how many cross character ones they are working on
Same
I just have Joy and roar for her...Oh and the one that she gets nervous too
Still dont have Just like caulifla...
I used 10 Gold capsules and i didnt got it
her Dragon Ball capture emote is pretty cool i want more progression based unlocks like that
want so badly
Same
Game gave me the goku spaceship emote...a LEGENDARY
0,0001% CHANCE OF GETTING
BUT HE DIDNT GAVE ME JUST LIKE CAULIFLA THAT ITS AN EPIC ONE
yeah it gave me all the Baby ones š¤¦š»āāļø never going to use him xD
Bruh if he gave me baby ones it would be good too
add trade feature
Since i use either him cooler or Cell on tank
yeah
a trade feature would be great
because i got all the premium stuff
for gotenks
goku ss3
and toppo
i dont have any of em
Bro thatās god tier trash luck š
Thatās actually so unlucky š
I need some tips on playing Kale. I know her S1 + S3 combo, but what else are some dos & donts for her
Dont try to score unless you know there's nobody
Stay behind
Break shields witj S2
With*
Dont just think about landing the combo
If you can secure a kill or do great damage without it just do it
When pushing with your team late game just stay behind and nuke the base
Once the enemy has used all their ults double dash in then ult
Go snowball > prepare to die > limit break
Shield is nice late game when you're in a stalemate, its not worth it otherwise
Wouldn't Giant slayer work better wit kale
maybe
but i think its far harder due to the 80% hp condition
meanwhile with prepare to die you could potentially one shot with ult
I normally only use her ULT to finish a 1v1 fast or to attack GODs when they're defending.
I saw someone in this chat mention that once and I've added that to my game since lol
If you consider getting jumped by caulifla so you ult as finishing a 1v1 fast, then i do the same lol
Oh?
I go snowball solid barrier and limit breaking jump
Solid barrier is great but i lost many games with that build
Felt like she had no dmg
Meanwhile i went on a 10 game winstreak with prepare to die
Its cuz of her low ahh hp
They gotta buff her base health fr
She dies too quickly without solid barrier
thats why they need to buff her ult
Bruh
I got all Rare kale emotes
But not just like caulifla and the other epic mvp emote
I got her epic mvp
I got just like Caulifla and epic mvp. I like how she punches the camera man
i thought only kale's mvp does that ?
It does
queue ranks for S rank on a sunday afternoon are eternal tf
š
@jagged tree me s rank with js kale
Same

um
I tried Kale earlier
Was fun, but I can say for sure sheās not good when needing to defend a tower against a Cell and a Toppo alone during late game
Eh she is different than most DPS
You usually want to stay back as you do your huge burst damage of S3 and S1 combo
Usually if they are on your tower then their just waiting to be hit with that combo
Imo, toppo is almost always a free kill tbh whether early, mid, or late game
The s3 s1 combo just shreds through him
Cell is trickier but still very much so doable
I guess but being along against those two, yeah no canāt defend against both at the same time by myself
Thatās what happens when the teammates are allergic to defence
That also depends, if you play kale well and have your ult, you can defend pretty easily
Because the biggest advantage you have is that your kit is long range
Play behind the spawn borders so that the enemy canāt come in close for rush attacks
Play around your god so they canāt use skills to damage you, and tickle them with rush attack or skills so they donāt cap point
And ult is used either to engage and clean up a kill or as a ālast resortā when you donāt have any skills or vanishing step to escape. Meaning if all my skills are used up I pop ult immediately so I have more health overall
Imo, defending as kale is a lot more reliant on juking/positioning. So the enemy is always in reach of a rush attack from me but not the other way around
They werenāt attacking me, just on opposite side spamming Genkishin bursts and I couldnāt prevent both from scoring at the same time
But pretty sure itās a skill issue on my part, that was my first Kale game
I do s1 s3 first, then s2 at lvl4, lvl 5 is ult. lvl6 i get s2, i skip lvl 7 and save it until lvl8 so i can max out s1 and get my ult to lvl 2. And then ultimately just level my s2 until max and lvl 3 ult at lvl 11
You obviously don't have to follow exactly the same, i do it like this to take most advantage of s1 s3 combo, and I suck at aiming so i need s1 as big of an AoE as possible so its harder to missš
As for cards, i do snowball, prepare to die/barrier, and second vanishing step
prepare to die boosts damage from s1 by alot but if the enemy dps seems to be killing you alot then get barrier to survive longer
But if you learn kale well enough, you shouldn't ever be putting yourself into situations close enough to get bursted down by the enemy
Wait wait so you go in order
1
3
2
4
2
Skip
1
4
2
2?
4
I skip S2 entirely S1 S3 S1 Ult at lvl 6 when it forces you to use the point on S2 just hold it until lvl 7 then you can max S1 and put a point into either S3 or ult, outside gekishin bursts S2 is straight garbage imo
You don't S2 until late
Frankly
It's only useful to last hit a minion from afar
Compared to what you'll get from maxing S1, S3, and the ult
You can also keep your point at lvl 6 and 7, when the only choice is to level up S2, and get both S1 et S3 to max and ult lvl 2 at lvl 8
Oops I meant s1 at lvl 4
Same, but I lvl it second
Nah, Iāve found better use for lvl 2 ult early for either securing bosses or for getting kills in the boss areas to secure the boss
I see it as a win as long as I can get a couple kills with it and restart snowball stacks for the enemy team plus it kills their momentum at least a lil
Yup, it only does more damage the farther you are too, so max s2 max range on a target without barrier, does quite the chunk of health, almost half sometimes š³
At the start i always level S1 and S2
Putting it all on combo for the kai fight just makes it easier for opponents to snipe it or just dive you the moment they see the S3
S2 is confirmed damage on anyone
True, but I just learn to play around that. If they chase me I just run and prioritize killing them instead
I always get cauliflaās that chase me so I run to spawn while my tank is killing their dps
I personally like getting blaster shot to level 2 as early as possible and keeping energy sphere at level 1 for most of the game
Mainly cuz damage for the nuke scales by blaster shot level only
Skill 2 is super underrated
Itās great for kill securing
Yeah thatās why we use it for kill securing and not primary damage
or to poke solid barriers
Wait FR???
Her s1 got a nerf
Noooooo 
Is it the damage output? Or is it the range?
Thankfully its not damage its cooldown
Oh thank god, thats not so bad then
As long as its not worse than s3 we're chilling
skill 3 lowk the best skill makes shots into NUKES
Ok I played Kale yesterday and I got it
That character is good
I feel like S3 is a little hard to playa round because it's so slow but I 100% get the appeal of it
S3 -> S1 shreads so much
Nah, you just gotta be a lil ninja in the clouds and just surprise kamikaze ppl, s3 s1 combo really quickly
Gets them every time
Ball jumpscare
a couple of my friends had some weird "bug" when they were comboing skill 3 into 1 that sometimes their vanishing step would activate by itself. They're both pc players. I never had that issue when playing on the switch
anyone experience something similar like that?
@jagged tree you seem to be the right person to check with regarding kale
How do you lane with kale?
When enemy tank keeps jumping
Also does orb blast dmg depend on s1 or s3
just run back to spawn, preferably with the enemy tank in tow. And then make sure you keep trying to bait the tank to come back for an ez kill without letting them
Let your tank kill their dps and then ez 1v2 on their tank. Unless your tank sucks and loses with all their advantage in a 1v1
I run back and lose on farm while my tank is not able to do much 70% of the time
One more thing what to do from kale from 3+1 combo @rain phoenix
Spam s2?
But it takes too much time to charge
For mediocre dmg
Honestly, it's hard to lose out on farm even if you lose all the kais just exp farm the npcs in your base. If you're losing all the kais at best i'd be down 1 lvl unless enemy team is really really aggressive
I only start using s2 near lvl9-10 when i have it at lvl2-3
i just kite ppl and spam rush attack
Ehhh, imo it is. I've seen other ppl get some use out of it tho
Pray that you have a good Lane partner
And the Orb blast thing...i think its both idk
When match starts i start getting s3 and s1
I usually level S3 s1 Ult S2
And keep on doing it until Max lv
Tried her a few times.
Good dmg late game but given the current state of game where I am paired with 2 bots she is not good
I think sheās always good damage all throughout the game, early, mid and late game
That s3 s1 combo might not insta kill early and mid game but it does a hefty amount of damage. Enough so to scare tanks away back to their gods
Definitely not early game compared to others
I think she shines after getting lvl 8
Yes and no, if you land the s3 she can be quite the problem especially for tanks. I've def been able to kill tank and dps at lvl 3 using my combo and teamate
It's pretty nice for early snowball stacks tho... i only ever usually get 1 stack. I get the cards after the first kill usually
But yeah, lvl 8 is where she truly starts becoming a serious threat for ppl because of the larger AoE
My chat fr
say fellas
does anyone know what to do when your opponent vanishes the s3 so you cant get the s3 s1 combo
i feel like after that you just keel over and die without ult
You always gotta keep your distance
ok well they walk up to you and then you keel over and die
unless jts piccolo
if its piccolo he takes 2 steps back and then youdie
Idk just stay in the backline and near your god for healing
welcome
Fr
Kale without buildup somehow worse
Problem is lategame the enemies have too much damage for your ult to be use
so do we all agree she feels like sheās noticeably weaker this season?
lighting swift on this character is a secret top tier pick
with limit breaking jump you can get 2k burst on your rush attack for free
you do not need snowball on this character so making your early game/base rush attack way better is more advantageous than picking snowball
lighting swift applying to rush attack is so funny bro
Need that snowball for skill damage tho
I thought lightning swift applied only to energy damage attacks? How does it procc on her ult too?
Does it forget kale ult does physical damage and still proccs it for her?
He never said it procs with the ult
And there's no conditions on having a specific type of rush attacks
The only condition is to dodge
It's the type of damages the card deals, that are energy
You don't need to be dealing any energy damages yourself
Youāre right. I correlated the memory of limit breaking jump on kale as āonly useful with ultā so I assumed so
My bad
Oh really š³
Thatās interesting, that might open quite a few doors for me then huh
Yup, it goes well with anyone you'd use limit break jump on
If you want to go for something else than build up
But i strongly encourage you to still take build up on any melee character
Yeahhhh, build up is pretty broken
Lightning swift could also work with SSJ3 if you are unable to stack snowball
And you can switch it for snowball once you have this level 3 kamehameha, and backstab
Anyway, plenty of stuff that requires testing, to find what works best for your own playstyle
For sure
let me guess, you need to punch them first then use evade right
dude the combo still does crazy damage AND you can still benefit from lighting swift
this is just for base form
not sure if the rush attack still counts as energy damage in form or no
t
need to go into training and see
Again, you don't need it to be energy attack
You only need to be to use the dodge
But i'm not sure the dash under ult count as a dodge
Because the card will deal energy damages...
No matter what type of damages you deal yourself
Same goes for pursuer
It will deal energy damages when you proc it
No matter the character you're on
crazy
Kale with the Christmas hat looks š„
Yes
I'm messing around with Build Up with Kale, probably worse than snowball, but dying to 3 punches instead of 2 is nice
Is snowball not a good card pick on kale usually?
honestly, i'm starting to think skill 2's kinda underrated.
it's a big beam like masenko that goes even farther, does a good job finishing the enemy off, and it gets stronger with skill 3
still the last thing you want to upgrade tho
Nah, that's the second ability i max out tbh
Imo, it's too useful for poking enemies to get rid or their cute lil solid barriers
I've actually been thinking about letting this skill at level 2 2nd! (first if i have super start.)
did you know the damage buff skill three gives to skill one is the same no matter the skill three level? it's true!
I like to upgrade first ability first because of the range of the explosion with the third, I been top 120+ Kale but idk if I was doing great with that because I used to play without the dmg numbers so idk if Is better the second, I feel It so weak
I donāt see anyone playing kale rn š
Kino is one of the few
Because Gohan and ssj4 exist ?
And gotenks
None of those are dps
Someone queuing for dps cannot pick any of those
Sure, but all of these hard bully Kale
Or any character with a low hp pool
Especially someone with no escape
Because you never played with me
Fr
Once i see a hit i know hes using me for snowball stack š
Ok but like
Kale is a bottom lane character
Sheās not gonna run into too many support characters until end game
She is hard bullied by Vegeta 4 too
i gotta be away from Walls because of him
I very much dislike gohan early game
That's so sad
Roam Is a thing, and hurts really much
Fr
I returned to Kale
Any tip ?
Im having problems to do dmg
And If I go full red cards with snowball y die in one kame of ssj3
You don't need full red cards just snowball is fine you can use barrier and lbj for the other two cards
I tried barrier in last game, the second red card feels so situational, but I couldn't carry
I been like top 200 of Kale in season one, just playing It because of the capacity of carry, but I felt useless with vegeta 4 and now I don't know if Is viable to carry games
Ok maybe you can switch barrier for giant slayer and keep lbj
Lbj ? I play with the game in spanish
The blue card that let's you dodge twice
Ah
Thanks
The one that makes Cd lower when you hit is worse then ?
Could be bad translated, in spanish says something like hit an enemy for reduce cooldowns if you are out of enemy vision
Backstab? I mean I wouldn't know if it's all that useful for kale
Is more abilities in some situations
Limit breaking jump seems better since it gives her somewhat of a chance to escape
We could say that depends of the enemy and our composition
Maybe
Lbj also does help with staggering people when you transform too
Yeah you can stun people twice with her dodge
When she transforms yea
Oh that's so good
I always one hitted them and used ult just for melee situations when I can't defeat my enemy with a combo
Later I play with this build and I do a conclusion
I usually use Ult when im almost dying
Honestly I think it's better to use the ult while hiding in the bushes lol
Man seeing that they actually have a super saiyan kale model makes me bummed that they didn't make it a transformation for her
Be like that man
It can happen down the line. More likely than you think because of female representation in a moba
Wait a min⦠vanish step cooldown divine draw and kale ult⦠means unlimited stuns while ulting???
And gohan canāt counter stun you š³
Kale is gonna go even crazier next season š
Fr
Backstab on Kale and I can just nuke from a far is fun 
I've just tested it, vanish step cooldown plus double vanish is pretty crazy
I just soloed a cell and 17 but i didn't let either of em move. I dashed about 4 times total. And i lowkey could've perma stun locked them
that's cool to know hehe
kale is crazy after the kid gohan shadow buff
So like I see kale has a #3 icon but I've never seen a #2 icon for her
Where's kale 2?
Goku has a bunch missing. Maybe potentially twitch drops or event rewards
Not cool that 17's ult cancels kale's ult
He needs to be nerfed
Because I don't like it
Season 1 ahh testing card
Well you can just nuke It
Oh you can't because the shield Is broken
Kale Is in his worst state right now
With kid Gohan looks better but as a individual character Is in her worst state
(and still being the only dmg I want to play)
You are silly to think kale is in a bad state
she is
shes in her worst state in a long time
kid gohan nerfed so she basically has no presence
the only thing she has going for her is decent burst damage which is easily dodged
and an ult that never lasts more than 2 seconds before she dies
Skill issue
nah
The fact that you think she's gutted cuz you relied on kid gohan's skill 3 until it got nerfed is ludicrous
And who hasn't dodged her skills it happens it's be happening since season 1
Be better

Be thankful she does not suffer the same fate as dabura
In my experience, I do well as her, also Backstab 
nah i was using her since before kid gohan s3 got shadow buffed
its the fact that she finally had her high ever since it happened
and now is back to being mid
plus her ult is alot easier to deal with now compared to before
I been reaching S and top 1 k since season 1
With kale
So idk if I have the skill needed to explain you why Is she bad since the gotenks incident, succeded by Vegeta 4 and Gohan, or Broly and vegito with the dodge and the shield of 17 and
Yeah doesn't look good for her
But Im still going to hit rank S in all roles and first S with kale in like 3 or 4 days if I start playing this season so
if my teammate is kale i know im losing
U say that cuz you never saw me as Kale
Playing Kale is fundamentalls and a duo to make It really strong
Without the duo with the existance of some characters you need more skill and knowledge about how to move, the mechanical part of Kale is simple
The macro Is just another thing
Spacing Is your best friend
If i see a Ult gohan top lane im not going top
Cuz i know hes definitely going to Pull me away from my teammate and thats a kill for him
Low hp hero š
if you see your teammate playing one of the strongest dps you know youre losing?
bro what
what is her best cards this season?
"one of the strongest"?
correct
lol
They even nerfed her burst damage she made with 3+1 skill
Like why
She already has low hp and now you took away the only good thing she had besides her ult š
If Is one of the strongest we are in a different game
I don't know if we are talking about the same thing
I can reach S rank too with her
But Is not in a good state
Uub Is really strong, Vegito Is strong, Broly idk Im not playing third season
But Kale against most of the best characters Is weak
you can reach S rank with anyone that doesnt mean anything
i could play 18 and reach S rank
Then the game isnt hard enough for strong or weak to matter
shes still one of the worst characters in the game
Idk, late game Is when that matters
Comunication Is broken in this game
Strategy out of discord Is hard
Maybe the characters aren't that hard
But the rest of the game Is Big, being 4 levels over your enemy Is not easy
I just played a Kale game and I almost died against a trunks level 8 being level 11 with 5 snowball
I killed It but I had fear
Just shotgun him in the face
She needs buff
they suck with kale
they dont even use her correctly
U gotta play a match with me fr
Maybe this weekend I got S
Is not that weak if there isn't a Big counterpick in enemy team
Im feeling ultimate useless against some dmg
And If they got a 17...
Its rough out there for us Kale players this season
why are the gold emotes gone?
YES
That is the question
I been trying so hard to get the just like Caulifla emote
And now its gone and i couldnt get it ;-;
same, really tho, why?
I thought Zamazu was the only one with this problem!
Uh my gold emotes 
nope
I think its cuz
As the new characters get added
Their emotes replace the old ones
To keep the amount of total emotes in a pull the same amount
I see 3ku emojis
I see broly emojis
I see Ult gohan emojis
BUT WHERE KALE EMOJIS
This game hates Kale players smh
oh
Kale is so fun to use
Against the old characters yea
But against these New ones?
If ult gohan pulls you your basically dead
They better return ALL of the emotes for the 1st anniversary!
Yea
Thatās where big boy broly steps in and makes a cannon event š„¹
Is this character out?
Kale ? Been out since game released. If you're thinking about Kefla, she's coming next Wednesday
Kefla. My apologies
I thought this post said kefla so thatās why I asked 
I need more sleep
Kefla is like a updated version of kale
Literally
You guys think Kale deserves a rework to her kit? Seeing lssj2 Kaleās model in Keflaās legendary emote made me think she could definitely have at least a new kit that doesnāt drift too far away from the current kit with that transformation
I dont really play kale,because she's hard and I don't like getting her killed cause she feels bad
How do you play her
Me personally I would just watch a video of ani playing her
Got it
Mainly just wanna know how to space yourself
before Kefla came out I mained Kale and it might be a hot take but I think she is perfect as is
Try to fight a Broly or a ult gohan and then talk to me again
I think It would be better if she had two ults
You have the choice of going Berserk or ssj2
You could use berserk multiply times but in ssj2 she stays that way
And in ssj2 she could get that beam she shot with caulifla as a ult
Id love if in the future we could have duo ults somehow
I like the idea
If you don't know that Kale just doesn't work, Is so exigent on that
Yeeee
Am I wrong for wanting a slight rework/tweak to her passive 
This too
What about her?
I think she's pretty balanced
Some more health would be awesome considering she has zero mobility with ulthan bardock and kefla hanging around
She is pretty squishy
I think her damage is in a great place right now tho
Who do you think her best lane partner is?
Caulifla ā¤ļø
Or uh...idk Bardock
Oh and Kid gohan too
Boost damage+ boost damage -w-
I figured she had to be up there haha
I've got a meannnnn kid Gohan if you want to play with my fiance and I sometime this weekend
I'm trying to get to As in tank/tech and the pipe dream of S in damage
Iām said fiancĆ© ((-:
I play a mean trunks in damage, vegeta in tank and gotenks in tech!
Period Iāll be the damage then š
Oh lmao
Cooler is pretty fun especially with super start
I was playing a lot of baby but I haven't been doing as well with him lately
He was my very first Tank main fr
Ya still wanna play?
We're both at work for another couple hours
We probably wonāt be home for a couple more hours </3
Oh damn i see
Maybe i should try kale...
What cards
What I use is snow ball, giant slayer and limit break jump
On the safe side you could switch giant slayer for solid barrier since she does have low health
Neato.
Always snowball tho. Alwayssss
Yeah, not having snowball on kale feels almost like a throw
Cuz farming snowball on her is so easy and its just such an easy way to up her already broken burst damage
Kale is one of the few left where snowball is genuinely just the best option for her
Ye
Im building the Green card
It looks so nice for some matchups
Almost everyone in this meta
I have the name in my language but Is the one that stacks
But Is a melee build almost
Im testing everything
I feel like kale just doesn't pump enough with her nukes unless you run snowball
If you get caught, you're pretty much dead anyway. Idk how much defense would help
Kale buff
that skill 2 looks like nuclear radiation
It's like a beautiful firecracker
I might need to learn how to use her now
Ive been doing well with her s1 and s3,but now the s2 is interesting
Chat this Is fr ?
Playing snowball Is gambling with her, I did a 15 kills game (that Im gonna upload to yt) with snowball but I played so clean, I just missed 1 kill by a mechanical error but I wasn't in risk to die
And a Boss for like 700 hp
But I won that so hard
I like to get her skill 1 maxed before the second one
But Im testing the second and because of the cooldown Is very good
I think that It depends of the match
But Is better the second skill maxed
And Im doing always the combo of third skill into first
Sometimes you can use third- second
But the dmg in area Is so specific
Usually doesn't worth
Ok the second skill with the third one Is crazy
Really usefull to farm
And to delete Goku while genkidama
I really like the buff, Is not what I expetected but Is fine
Im glad theyāre making the usage of S3 into S2 more viable
I like charge beam but I never really found myself prioritizing it over any thing else ever really
Ye, but Is only usefull to farm
Les go Kale Mains
Our girl got buffed!
In terms of dmg Is only going to be better if the enemy can't dash
She got buffed everybody!
Ye, we were talking about that
Although is only her S2 that is buffed?
Man I played a game and I was 3 levels ahead everyone
Thats good actually
Her S2 was like Useless š
S3+s1 was always more worth it imo
Yes
But the power of s2 Alone Is so good
How
Now Is even better because of how you can farm
S2 is so good at securing kills
Not only that, dmg during fights
You got 2 of It while you are waiting for a Big combo
Yeah ofc
I found the most use out of it for fleeing characters tho
Ye
This season Is the only one I didn't got to S in everything
Cause of Kale state
But with season 4 im going to play her a lot
That Buff was amazing to get ahead of experience
And the change to the map feels so good
why can godku hit anyone on the mapš
I haven't played yet, but I'm not looking forward to the camera angle
Looks like Dota
I agree it looks much better
I liked more the old one
Ye, Is not that important the middle sadly
the map didn't change
Level 7 or 8 to a Boss Is crazy
Enemies spawn
Yes at the first boss everyone is really advanced and tbh itās harder to get a level lead
Visuals
hey what does the new buff to kale mean
What are u confused about exactly?
they increased the burn puddle on the ground when you combine the laser with the slow orb
Didn't they add it completely? I don't recall this existing previously
No they increased the total damage it always been in the game it just never been better then her old combo you take charge force to snipe low HP targets when they somehow survive
The burning effect was already there ?
Cause i recall the cross explosion, but not that it had a lingering effect
yes it was just useless compared to the blaster ball and slow orb combo
Now it's useful, at least
Legalize nuclear bombs
#āØgame-moments message
Squeaky hammer allows kale to attack tower during ult LOL
Lowkey might prioritize s2 for a bit
Im enjoying the S3 S2 buff so I kind of want to play around it more
It's fantastic in a lot of scenarios, but I don't think it's the default
It's very good but she would lose out on her confirms
I think it's justifiable if you got the S2 divine draw
Yeah its a lot less viable than s3 s1, but it is quite humorous to spam with elder kai
Wait what? 
With the improve of everything I feel Kale even worse
Now farm Is more efective, but in fight the buff doesn't work
Yeah, she seems worse in this meta
what buff? her charge force burning floor is insane it melts like crazy
Players don't stay in that
But bosses and other things
Uff
Gotenks can pair well with
It's great on boss/tower
But otherwise, for player damage, S1 is better
Yeah, s2 mainly just boss and tower only
Ye
Or if you want to snipe someone whoās trying to depart the fight while low
Also helpful for cleaning up then
So, on a conceptual level, Elder Kai seems like an insanely good fit for Kaleās long super timer.
Still trying to see if sheās a good fit for the meta tho.
No, but she isnt the worst pick
But with 17 being picked more often it is getting rough out here
Iāve noticed that.
Yuppppppp
Elder Kai?
Yeah, the newest supporter this season. Does the Power Awaken Dance used originally on Gohan, shortens cooldowns on all moves, rank 15 on pass.
Oh didnt bought it, just back to the game like 3 days. Last time i played was beta untill ssj3 pre release xD
Then you know what Bardock does to Kale
Or the vegeta ssj4
Yeh
What Bardock does to anyone with no movement
š„
Mfw Im farming alone but Bardockās in my lane so I genuinely just solo ult him

vanishes forward 
No no no bardock
No no no
Thats gonna be a joyous 10 seconds before he respawns and catches me lacking without a ult and skill 1ās me to death
what cards and skill priority does kale use?
I personally stick with the og cards snowball barrier and lbj
As for skill priority i straight up skip s2
Level 8 i max S1 get ult to level 2
ight ty
Indubitably
Sometimes I swap lbj out for defense step if I feel like Im gonna be making a lot of aggro ult plays
Especially at bosses
I immediately pop ult on enemy secure
do NOT do this ššš
you dont gain anything from leveling s3 past level one, and s2 is an amazing skill idk why you would ever skip it
I have to stay on brand

I think giant slayer is more helpful than barrier
you have to make sure you are never on the enemy hero screen when you drop that lava pool and blast and then immediately running away
Yup yup
True, I just find myself in a lot of scuffed situations though so I prefer just that slight defense
In the hopes that itāll help me last enough to be able to fall back and preserve snowball
I just don't think barrier would do enough to actually save me
I did that for like 5 matches straight aaaaaa
WHY
CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW LOL
I thought levelling S3 would help with the size of the explosions
My goal this season is to end with a top 100 kale ranking š¤
i tought the same at first till i tested it in train mode its same size an damage sadly
Rip lol
What does levelling s3 even do?
the ball is bigger by itself
and grows bigger
and the dmg by contact is bigger
I said it is bigger ?
and is useless
just get level 2 and 3 of it after master everything
the only reason you level S3 is to make it bigger and last longer
Lasting longer is genuinely helpful for the long range nukes
That as well
what are the best situation to use s3+s1 an the best sitauations to use s3 + s2
beaucse i only ever use s1+s3 but after the buffs s2 seems to do more damage an bigger range
like aginst tanks or bosses you melt them
but i dont want to ignore my nuke it makes me feel alive when i land it
That's only if they stay in the radius. S1 is much better for pure damage output
Berserker backshots ?
s2+s3 + elder kai just melts bosses kale is so fun man
lets go am the 10th kale in the kale ranking
That and a world king buff
Shreds
no the kai buff allow you deal frieza level dps it's actually insane how fast you can kill bosses and enemies with him
I do think having higher burst for the 3 + 1 secure is better than having higher DPS to rush it with 3 + 2
I've stuck with Furry
Got hit by bardock skill 1 into a wall and survived
Happy days in the lower lane department(Going upper anyways)

Congratulations

3ku absolutely destroys kale now ššš
Kale Is not good right now
it's a matchup thing
I think its moreso that kits have evolved past what kale has been dominating against in the past tbh. she still performs well
Just nothing extraordinary
it is
kale is a ranged character without mobilitiy so naturally shes bad into characters who can dive her
like kefla
and bardock
both got nerfed tho so most ranged characters are somewhat better now
including kale
Kefla can still dog kale but the bardok nerfs definitely help a ton
I didn't know this before but s3 s2 combo does a lot and I mean a LOT of DoT damage
Like that paired with the old supreme kai helper just decimates bosses. I can finally solo a boss as kale without ult
And not even just for bosses, it does wonder against a whole crowd of enemies. It might not one shot instantly but it sure as hell makes people back off without immediately trying to run for their lives because they're 1 hp
It helps a ton for the s1 follow up to clean up the stragglers
Yes! Major buff this season
That Is so unrealistic in high ranks
But yes, It works really fine in Boss fights and some others scenarios like tower fights
No it still works even in high ranks
Just have your tank distract in the front line for like a good 5-10 secs and boss is secured
It's not every game this happens but every once in a while it happens and is very doable even in high ranks
You melt anything in the attack, but anyone with a dash Is not going to get that much dmg
I was talking about bosses
But for players, you can kinda just combo with god vegeta
Cuz obviously ppl will dash out but if you aim at god vegeta then anyone that got sucked in were the poor souls whose dash didnāt let run far enough or were just at the wrong place at the wrong time
.
That Is amazing
The vegita ssg Is currently the best tank and probably character
Works so well with the s2+ s3 as you said
Plus, if you do s3 s2 combo on the god youāre attacking/defending⦠itās kinda hard for ppl to want to avoid it cuz they want to be at the god to defend it. Regardless if they have a skill to defend from a far, ppl more often than not defend up close with rush attacks
My bad, I forgot what I wrote down lol
Ye, defense Is really good
For that 3 seconds
In that case you can do some dmg with it
Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes
I made a Big one in Hit chat
Thatās not really a mistake tbh
You were just asking a question
Questions arenāt mistakes
I feel It ultra broken
Enemies doesn't think when they have to dash
So that works not fine, works uncredible
Nah, got to almost S and she Is useless another time
Is an antinoob character
Nothing more
Sadly
I donāt see her transformation button whenever I use her
Is it just my game or something else?
Her transformation is tied to the Ultimate Activation.
Definitely not
I got to S with her
And that was by getting multiple 3k's or entire team wipes single handedly
You just have to play smart with her, learn to take advantage of your and the enemy's positioning
That almost never happens
And new Buu just deletes you
I still winning more than losing but that doesn't happen
Usually they are not going to die into your S2+S3
so you used her below S
therefore shes an antinoob character
she's not useless and she can still do something but shes mediocre at best
Sadly, I want my girl strong, not meta, but as a good character
Both I used her below S and I use her in S
I still disagree with saying sheās mediocre at best cuz some S rank games itās literally the enemy teamās Kale that is making the big impact to take the lead
Itās because we didnāt have a Kale of our own that we ended up losing
Also, if Iām being honest. A rank is NOT a rank for noobs. I thought it was and tried doing a dabura to S rank challenge for myself and I got whipped into shape, like I had to play my Kale main to carry me up š
Cuz some A ranks are lowkey cracked, better mechanically than average S ranks š
Obviously not but it sure as hell does a good job of creating space, like against godgeta imo. Cuz it either forces him to advance and be alone with my 2-3 teammates (their allies backed off) or back off himself and let my team take space from them instead
I havenāt tried going against new buu yet, but Iād imagine you just treat it like another ulthan. Just keep your distance and position yourself not too far up front or with your teammate(s) in between you and buu
That Is because im stuck in rank A, you play a lot against me dude (im joking)
Man, people in rank A doesn't know how to play
Idk how that happened
I used to have teamates with brain while getting S
Now I don't
Is not even hard to get S if you have a meta character
You have to learn a lot about the game to get S with something like Kale
This Is just a waste of dmg in some situations, you just use It in towers and bosses, and in some cases the S1 combo Is stronger and safer
Is a rank for casuals at this point
Nah I get you A4-A3 feels vastly different to A1
Ye, but being A1 I get with those guys
In my games, i usually find the s3 s1 combo difficult to pull off unless its a very quick combo. Like usually ppl are on the lookout for s3 s1 (unless they got pulled by godgeta) so i resort to s3 s2 so that it's slightly less predictable or gives me space for me or my team
If i'm point blank range of someone i would almost always resort to s3 s1, but if it's godgeta or some hero that has some sort of immunity i'll use s3 s2 instead because i would prefer DoT instead of burst. Like if Godgeta tries to his ult. Slap an s3 s2 to be waiting for him to come back
When you use S3 you have to decide if S1 or S2, that depends of the enemy position and hp
I don't think It is hard to hit, in early game It Is hard to
But later you get big area
I said it's hard to hit because people aren't stupid, if they see kale s3 they play around it, imo it's a lot easier to just hide in a bush and do a surprise s3 s1 getting two people to either 1hp or half health
Over lobbing an s3 and trying to get someone with s1 combo, which is where i would prefer to combo with s2 regardless of how less valuable the damage output is
Hey so would the best cards for Kale be Snowball, Solid Barrier, and Limit Breaking Jump?
yes
No matter what happens in the meta sheāll always be my main
Barrier Is really usefull to keep your snowballs
But I use a red card instead
I feel that Is just better if you play really safe
But against some enemies like Ult Gohan or Buu, any vegeta, gotenks and maybe another enemy Is really important
They can destroy you in one mistake
I agree wholeheartedly
Broly melts against the meta
And that's why I made a whole meme about it but I can't really post it anywhere except for the whole moments channel
Yeah Kale can get caught out and punished but her kit isn't about being in the middle of the fight like Broly's is
If he had a way to up his energy defense or a way to recover a little HP I'd main him
Buff Broly
Sadly that makes Broly probably the worst attack
people are not playing kale cause they are scared of how much skill she takes, its not that hard, she does crazy damage and if you master her no one can stop you, JUST AIM
I main Kale, but she isn't that strong
nobody is playing kale because her dps is one dimensional and if you're playing against good players you can easily be dealt with
If she had alittle more of mobility Iād use her more often
Thereās to many units that can get to her quickly
No matter the meta, Iāll always use and main kale
I mastered Kale to a point where playing others dmg makes me look worst player, like if I didn't knew to press buttons
Thanks Doc!
#āØgame-moments message
you should had it be piccolo using SBC
I'm assuming the devs are smart enough to not make ultimates heal allies...but now that i think about their track record
Kale going to get interesting with the new modifiers
Bro does S1 no longer lock on her S3 energy sphere?
when did it ever lock on S3?
It always did to me
What cards should i use
snowball, solid barrier and limit breaking jump for escape and to stun enemies twice during ult
Nope, I don't remember it locking on on console, it's why I always thought Kale was a little harder to learn than Caulifla
Aim assist
Aim assist has a setting where you can have s1 stick to s3
Ye, she doesn't have anything against them
Im using defensive dash now because of the Goku invasion
Now mastering her more I feel that you can do some crazy things, but nothing special, dmg like vegito, ssj 3 or Godku can do the same and much easier
Her ult is still pretty brutal though
If you can do something with It
The shield Is pretty easy to melt
Facts
The masculine urge to try full defense kale for the lols