#Super Saiyan Kale (Berserk)

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wet plinth
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i just mean only throw S2 and the combo when off cd

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then back off a bit

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if you see a good opportunity aka they used ults and nukes

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use the limit breaking jumps to get in, ult then go in with double jumps

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or if you see them low

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Kale's damage is insane

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she could 1 tap if hero is half hp

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with ult

graceful fern
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goatpo?

dry compass
graceful fern
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who?

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the O is silent/hushed like in Kakarotto and Hitto

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you could easily be talking about any character who ends in the letter P 🤣

jagged tree
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Shes so easy to kill bro

They gotta buff her health

dry compass
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Hence why I play from range like a little rat!

dry compass
graceful fern
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I wish they buffed her visual i hope if she comes back in the story she's trained to be the size of the oter saiyans at resting point

jolly bough
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Her Ultimate attack is just transforming into a bulky abusive woman on testosterone and Holding down the X Button while killing everyone on the map including the narrator

graceful fern
woeful mesa
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Ergo it's Toppo

graceful fern
graceful fern
# woeful mesa Ergo it's Toppo

That is the ONLY good explanation so far. They still could have spelled it any way they liked though. Could have also added clarity to the word play by calling him something more punny in English. A lot of the names are in English already so it seems cooler and like you have to think about it a little more. Maybe it could have been a pun on the Japanese word for Pot to flip it around.

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Like Vegeta was always supposed to be intentionally English sounding, most of the Saiyans besides the word Saiyan itself are English wordplay more than Japanese

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The Ginyu Force is far worse of a issue with this imo than Pride Troopers. The entire joke of their names is abandoned in English basically

graceful fern
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On Kale subject RIP to diving Angel/Destroyer zones as Berserk. Fun while it lasted

dry compass
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It's not about being unclear, it's about you randomly bringing up something that has nothing to do with what was being spoken about

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šŸ’€

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He literally said she's a bulky (muscular) woman on T (cause she spontaneously grows her muscles)

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what part of that has anything to do with trans people

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not a single bit of it.

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You just accused bro of being transphobic when he said not a word about trans anything

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That is weirdo timing.

graceful fern
dry compass
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Then show me the bigotry.

graceful fern
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i am begging you at this point stop harassing me on all your alts

dry compass
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Not being able to defend your own ignorance isn’t grounds to say I’m harassing you

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???

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I don’t even know you

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What are you talking about now?

graceful fern
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i only want to discuss kale fun and mechanics here

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move on

dry compass
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You’re the one that randomly and falsely accused him of transphobia

jolly bough
jolly bough
little steeple
kind spruce
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Buying specific emotes with ex tokens would be really cool

wet plinth
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its so garbage i still dont have anything good for Kale

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but i keep getting 5 dupes of everythign

kind spruce
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Same! I’m after kales emotes but get gotenks infinity emote on repeat

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Now toppo start is all I get

graceful fern
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I don't like any of outfits they offer honestly. That kind of stuff used to be complimentary

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like where is the Yardat costume for Goku anyway

wet plinth
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theyre so slow with outfits

dry compass
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the skins are pretty mediocre for a lot of the characters

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They're getting carried by the fact they're hand picking skins for the popular characters

graceful fern
# wet plinth theyre so slow with outfits

DBS Broly outfit on Kale would be fancy. We did get Celipa outfit on Caulifla only reason I think they might. I wonder how many cross character ones they are working on

jagged tree
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Still dont have Just like caulifla...

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I used 10 Gold capsules and i didnt got it

graceful fern
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her Dragon Ball capture emote is pretty cool i want more progression based unlocks like that

graceful fern
jagged tree
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Same

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Game gave me the goku spaceship emote...a LEGENDARY

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0,0001% CHANCE OF GETTING

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BUT HE DIDNT GAVE ME JUST LIKE CAULIFLA THAT ITS AN EPIC ONE

graceful fern
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yeah it gave me all the Baby ones šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø never going to use him xD

jagged tree
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Bruh if he gave me baby ones it would be good too

graceful fern
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add trade feature

jagged tree
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Since i use either him cooler or Cell on tank

wet plinth
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yeah

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a trade feature would be great

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because i got all the premium stuff

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for gotenks

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goku ss3

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and toppo

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i dont have any of em

jagged tree
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Wish it had trades too

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I would beg for kale emotes

rain phoenix
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That’s actually so unlucky 😭

dry compass
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I need some tips on playing Kale. I know her S1 + S3 combo, but what else are some dos & donts for her

wet plinth
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Stay behind

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Break shields witj S2

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With*

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Dont just think about landing the combo

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If you can secure a kill or do great damage without it just do it

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When pushing with your team late game just stay behind and nuke the base

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Once the enemy has used all their ults double dash in then ult

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Go snowball > prepare to die > limit break

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Shield is nice late game when you're in a stalemate, its not worth it otherwise

gleaming lance
wet plinth
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maybe

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but i think its far harder due to the 80% hp condition

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meanwhile with prepare to die you could potentially one shot with ult

dry compass
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I normally only use her ULT to finish a 1v1 fast or to attack GODs when they're defending.

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I saw someone in this chat mention that once and I've added that to my game since lol

rain phoenix
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If you consider getting jumped by caulifla so you ult as finishing a 1v1 fast, then i do the same lol

jagged tree
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Oh?

I go snowball solid barrier and limit breaking jump

wet plinth
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Solid barrier is great but i lost many games with that build

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Felt like she had no dmg

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Meanwhile i went on a 10 game winstreak with prepare to die

jagged tree
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Its cuz of her low ahh hp

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They gotta buff her base health fr

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She dies too quickly without solid barrier

gleaming lance
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I mean

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She's meant to stay from afar

faint nova
jagged tree
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Bruh

I got all Rare kale emotes

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But not just like caulifla and the other epic mvp emote

gleaming lance
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I got her epic mvp

blissful hull
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I got just like Caulifla and epic mvp. I like how she punches the camera man

faint nova
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i thought only kale's mvp does that ?

gleaming lance
wet plinth
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queue ranks for S rank on a sunday afternoon are eternal tf

dry compass
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šŸ’€

faint nova
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@jagged tree me s rank with js kale

jagged tree
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Same

faint nova
north locust
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um

devout jasper
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I tried Kale earlier

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Was fun, but I can say for sure she’s not good when needing to defend a tower against a Cell and a Toppo alone during late game

narrow crest
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Eh she is different than most DPS

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You usually want to stay back as you do your huge burst damage of S3 and S1 combo

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Usually if they are on your tower then their just waiting to be hit with that combo

rain phoenix
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The s3 s1 combo just shreds through him

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Cell is trickier but still very much so doable

devout jasper
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I guess but being along against those two, yeah no can’t defend against both at the same time by myself

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That’s what happens when the teammates are allergic to defence

rain phoenix
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That also depends, if you play kale well and have your ult, you can defend pretty easily

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Because the biggest advantage you have is that your kit is long range

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Play behind the spawn borders so that the enemy can’t come in close for rush attacks

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Play around your god so they can’t use skills to damage you, and tickle them with rush attack or skills so they don’t cap point

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And ult is used either to engage and clean up a kill or as a ā€œlast resortā€ when you don’t have any skills or vanishing step to escape. Meaning if all my skills are used up I pop ult immediately so I have more health overall

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Imo, defending as kale is a lot more reliant on juking/positioning. So the enemy is always in reach of a rush attack from me but not the other way around

devout jasper
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They weren’t attacking me, just on opposite side spamming Genkishin bursts and I couldn’t prevent both from scoring at the same time

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But pretty sure it’s a skill issue on my part, that was my first Kale game

pure obsidian
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Level up path???

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Oh and cards

rain phoenix
# pure obsidian Level up path???

I do s1 s3 first, then s2 at lvl4, lvl 5 is ult. lvl6 i get s2, i skip lvl 7 and save it until lvl8 so i can max out s1 and get my ult to lvl 2. And then ultimately just level my s2 until max and lvl 3 ult at lvl 11

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You obviously don't have to follow exactly the same, i do it like this to take most advantage of s1 s3 combo, and I suck at aiming so i need s1 as big of an AoE as possible so its harder to miss😭

rain phoenix
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prepare to die boosts damage from s1 by alot but if the enemy dps seems to be killing you alot then get barrier to survive longer

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But if you learn kale well enough, you shouldn't ever be putting yourself into situations close enough to get bursted down by the enemy

pure obsidian
proper osprey
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I skip S2 entirely S1 S3 S1 Ult at lvl 6 when it forces you to use the point on S2 just hold it until lvl 7 then you can max S1 and put a point into either S3 or ult, outside gekishin bursts S2 is straight garbage imo

fast spruce
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You don't S2 until late

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Frankly

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It's only useful to last hit a minion from afar

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Compared to what you'll get from maxing S1, S3, and the ult

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You can also keep your point at lvl 6 and 7, when the only choice is to level up S2, and get both S1 et S3 to max and ult lvl 2 at lvl 8

wet plinth
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I always level S2

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Its good damage and useful to poke the solid barrier

rain phoenix
rain phoenix
rain phoenix
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I see it as a win as long as I can get a couple kills with it and restart snowball stacks for the enemy team plus it kills their momentum at least a lil

rain phoenix
wet plinth
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At the start i always level S1 and S2

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Putting it all on combo for the kai fight just makes it easier for opponents to snipe it or just dive you the moment they see the S3

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S2 is confirmed damage on anyone

rain phoenix
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I always get caulifla’s that chase me so I run to spawn while my tank is killing their dps

naive oxide
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I personally like getting blaster shot to level 2 as early as possible and keeping energy sphere at level 1 for most of the game

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Mainly cuz damage for the nuke scales by blaster shot level only

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Skill 2 is super underrated

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It’s great for kill securing

dry compass
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Her skill 2 is too slow for me

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and doesn't put out enough damage imo

naive oxide
wet plinth
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or to poke solid barriers

gleaming lance
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They nerfed kale

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I can't believe this

rain phoenix
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Wait FR???

marble solar
rain phoenix
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Is it the damage output? Or is it the range?

marble solar
rain phoenix
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Oh thank god, thats not so bad then

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As long as its not worse than s3 we're chilling

mystic kiln
jagged tree
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Bruh

devout jasper
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Ok I played Kale yesterday and I got it

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That character is good

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I feel like S3 is a little hard to playa round because it's so slow but I 100% get the appeal of it

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S3 -> S1 shreads so much

rain phoenix
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Gets them every time

devout jasper
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Ball jumpscare

harsh flicker
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a couple of my friends had some weird "bug" when they were comboing skill 3 into 1 that sometimes their vanishing step would activate by itself. They're both pc players. I never had that issue when playing on the switch
anyone experience something similar like that?

dry vale
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@jagged tree you seem to be the right person to check with regarding kale

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How do you lane with kale?

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When enemy tank keeps jumping

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Also does orb blast dmg depend on s1 or s3

rain phoenix
# dry vale When enemy tank keeps jumping

just run back to spawn, preferably with the enemy tank in tow. And then make sure you keep trying to bait the tank to come back for an ez kill without letting them

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Let your tank kill their dps and then ez 1v2 on their tank. Unless your tank sucks and loses with all their advantage in a 1v1

dry vale
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I run back and lose on farm while my tank is not able to do much 70% of the time

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One more thing what to do from kale from 3+1 combo @rain phoenix

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Spam s2?

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But it takes too much time to charge

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For mediocre dmg

rain phoenix
rain phoenix
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i just kite ppl and spam rush attack

dry vale
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I see

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I feel like s2 is kinda useless early on

rain phoenix
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Ehhh, imo it is. I've seen other ppl get some use out of it tho

jagged tree
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When match starts i start getting s3 and s1

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I usually level S3 s1 Ult S2

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And keep on doing it until Max lv

dry vale
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Tried her a few times.

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Good dmg late game but given the current state of game where I am paired with 2 bots she is not good

jagged tree
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S2 is only good late game tbh

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I've seen some "how to be good with Kale" Videos

rain phoenix
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That s3 s1 combo might not insta kill early and mid game but it does a hefty amount of damage. Enough so to scare tanks away back to their gods

dry vale
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I think she shines after getting lvl 8

rain phoenix
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It's pretty nice for early snowball stacks tho... i only ever usually get 1 stack. I get the cards after the first kill usually

rain phoenix
jagged tree
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My chat fr

cyan birch
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say fellas

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does anyone know what to do when your opponent vanishes the s3 so you cant get the s3 s1 combo

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i feel like after that you just keel over and die without ult

gleaming lance
cyan birch
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ok well they walk up to you and then you keel over and die

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unless jts piccolo

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if its piccolo he takes 2 steps back and then youdie

gleaming lance
naive oxide
jagged tree
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Fr

pine mountain
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Kale without buildup somehow worse

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Problem is lategame the enemies have too much damage for your ult to be use

jagged tree
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Fr

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Late game u lose ur berserk form in a matter of Seconds 😭

wispy sierra
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so do we all agree she feels like she’s noticeably weaker this season?

south rock
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lighting swift on this character is a secret top tier pick

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with limit breaking jump you can get 2k burst on your rush attack for free

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you do not need snowball on this character so making your early game/base rush attack way better is more advantageous than picking snowball

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lighting swift applying to rush attack is so funny bro

gleaming lance
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Need that snowball for skill damage tho

rain phoenix
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Does it forget kale ult does physical damage and still proccs it for her?

fast spruce
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And there's no conditions on having a specific type of rush attacks

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The only condition is to dodge

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It's the type of damages the card deals, that are energy

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You don't need to be dealing any energy damages yourself

rain phoenix
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My bad

rain phoenix
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That’s interesting, that might open quite a few doors for me then huh

fast spruce
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If you want to go for something else than build up

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But i strongly encourage you to still take build up on any melee character

rain phoenix
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Yeahhhh, build up is pretty broken

fast spruce
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Lightning swift could also work with SSJ3 if you are unable to stack snowball

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And you can switch it for snowball once you have this level 3 kamehameha, and backstab

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Anyway, plenty of stuff that requires testing, to find what works best for your own playstyle

rain phoenix
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For sure

pine mountain
south rock
south rock
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not sure if the rush attack still counts as energy damage in form or no

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t

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need to go into training and see

fast spruce
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You only need to be to use the dodge

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But i'm not sure the dash under ult count as a dodge

south rock
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then why does it say energy damage

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we're so chudded

fast spruce
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No matter what type of damages you deal yourself

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Same goes for pursuer

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It will deal energy damages when you proc it

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No matter the character you're on

south rock
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crazy

marble solar
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Kale with the Christmas hat looks šŸ”„

jagged tree
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Yes

hardy needle
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I'm messing around with Build Up with Kale, probably worse than snowball, but dying to 3 punches instead of 2 is nice

rain phoenix
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Is snowball not a good card pick on kale usually?

cloud wasp
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honestly, i'm starting to think skill 2's kinda underrated.

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it's a big beam like masenko that goes even farther, does a good job finishing the enemy off, and it gets stronger with skill 3

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still the last thing you want to upgrade tho

rain phoenix
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Imo, it's too useful for poking enemies to get rid or their cute lil solid barriers

cloud wasp
naive oxide
viscid chasm
faint nova
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I don’t see anyone playing kale rn šŸ’”

fast spruce
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Kino is one of the few

viscid chasm
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And gotenks

naive oxide
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Someone queuing for dps cannot pick any of those

fast spruce
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Or any character with a low hp pool

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Especially someone with no escape

jagged tree
jagged tree
naive oxide
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Kale is a bottom lane character

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She’s not gonna run into too many support characters until end game

fast spruce
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She is hard bullied by Vegeta 4 too

jagged tree
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i gotta be away from Walls because of him

faint nova
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I very much dislike gohan early game

viscid chasm
jagged tree
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Fr

viscid chasm
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I returned to Kale

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Any tip ?

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Im having problems to do dmg

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And If I go full red cards with snowball y die in one kame of ssj3

gleaming lance
viscid chasm
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I tried barrier in last game, the second red card feels so situational, but I couldn't carry

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I been like top 200 of Kale in season one, just playing It because of the capacity of carry, but I felt useless with vegeta 4 and now I don't know if Is viable to carry games

gleaming lance
viscid chasm
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Lbj ? I play with the game in spanish

gleaming lance
viscid chasm
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Ah

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Thanks

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The one that makes Cd lower when you hit is worse then ?

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Could be bad translated, in spanish says something like hit an enemy for reduce cooldowns if you are out of enemy vision

gleaming lance
viscid chasm
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Is more abilities in some situations

gleaming lance
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Limit breaking jump seems better since it gives her somewhat of a chance to escape

viscid chasm
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We could say that depends of the enemy and our composition

gleaming lance
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Maybe

viscid chasm
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You are right with the scape

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Is not that usual the backstab

gleaming lance
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Lbj also does help with staggering people when you transform too

viscid chasm
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I used It always in season 1 because of how Broken It was

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Oh

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That so good

gleaming lance
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Yeah you can stun people twice with her dodge

viscid chasm
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Wait that stuns ?

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I never hitted that

gleaming lance
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When she transforms yea

viscid chasm
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Oh that's so good

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I always one hitted them and used ult just for melee situations when I can't defeat my enemy with a combo

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Later I play with this build and I do a conclusion

jagged tree
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I usually use Ult when im almost dying

hardy needle
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Honestly I think it's better to use the ult while hiding in the bushes lol

gleaming lance
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Man seeing that they actually have a super saiyan kale model makes me bummed that they didn't make it a transformation for her

dry compass
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Be like that man

blissful hull
rain phoenix
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Wait a min… vanish step cooldown divine draw and kale ult… means unlimited stuns while ulting???

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And gohan can’t counter stun you 😳

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Kale is gonna go even crazier next season šŸ™Š

jagged tree
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Fr

languid lodge
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Backstab on Kale and I can just nuke from a far is fun Buu

rain phoenix
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I've just tested it, vanish step cooldown plus double vanish is pretty crazy

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I just soloed a cell and 17 but i didn't let either of em move. I dashed about 4 times total. And i lowkey could've perma stun locked them

obsidian thunder
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that's cool to know hehe

mellow tusk
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kale is crazy after the kid gohan shadow buff

gleaming lance
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So like I see kale has a #3 icon but I've never seen a #2 icon for her

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Where's kale 2?

blissful hull
gleaming lance
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Not cool that 17's ult cancels kale's ult

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He needs to be nerfed

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Because I don't like it

viscid chasm
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Oh you can't because the shield Is broken

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Kale Is in his worst state right now

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With kid Gohan looks better but as a individual character Is in her worst state

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(and still being the only dmg I want to play)

gleaming lance
mellow tusk
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shes in her worst state in a long time

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kid gohan nerfed so she basically has no presence

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the only thing she has going for her is decent burst damage which is easily dodged

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and an ult that never lasts more than 2 seconds before she dies

gleaming lance
mellow tusk
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nah

gleaming lance
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The fact that you think she's gutted cuz you relied on kid gohan's skill 3 until it got nerfed is ludicrous

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And who hasn't dodged her skills it happens it's be happening since season 1

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Be better

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Be thankful she does not suffer the same fate as dabura

languid lodge
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In my experience, I do well as her, also Backstab Buu

mellow tusk
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its the fact that she finally had her high ever since it happened

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and now is back to being mid

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plus her ult is alot easier to deal with now compared to before

viscid chasm
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I been reaching S and top 1 k since season 1

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With kale

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So idk if I have the skill needed to explain you why Is she bad since the gotenks incident, succeded by Vegeta 4 and Gohan, or Broly and vegito with the dodge and the shield of 17 and

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Yeah doesn't look good for her

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But Im still going to hit rank S in all roles and first S with kale in like 3 or 4 days if I start playing this season so

quartz vector
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if my teammate is kale i know im losing

jagged tree
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U say that cuz you never saw me as Kale

viscid chasm
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Without the duo with the existance of some characters you need more skill and knowledge about how to move, the mechanical part of Kale is simple

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The macro Is just another thing

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Spacing Is your best friend

jagged tree
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If i see a Ult gohan top lane im not going top

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Cuz i know hes definitely going to Pull me away from my teammate and thats a kill for him

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Low hp hero 😭

wet plinth
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bro what

merry wave
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what is her best cards this season?

wet plinth
mellow tusk
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lol

jagged tree
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They even nerfed her burst damage she made with 3+1 skill

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Like why

She already has low hp and now you took away the only good thing she had besides her ult 😭

viscid chasm
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I don't know if we are talking about the same thing

wet plinth
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If it can reach S+ rank without issues

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Its strong to me

viscid chasm
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I can reach S rank too with her

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But Is not in a good state

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Uub Is really strong, Vegito Is strong, Broly idk Im not playing third season

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But Kale against most of the best characters Is weak

mellow tusk
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i could play 18 and reach S rank

wet plinth
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Then the game isnt hard enough for strong or weak to matter

mellow tusk
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shes still one of the worst characters in the game

viscid chasm
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Comunication Is broken in this game

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Strategy out of discord Is hard

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Maybe the characters aren't that hard

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But the rest of the game Is Big, being 4 levels over your enemy Is not easy

viscid chasm
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I just played a Kale game and I almost died against a trunks level 8 being level 11 with 5 snowball

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I killed It but I had fear

wet plinth
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Just shotgun him in the face

jagged tree
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She needs buff

quartz vector
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they dont even use her correctly

jagged tree
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U gotta play a match with me fr

viscid chasm
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Maybe this weekend I got S

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Is not that weak if there isn't a Big counterpick in enemy team

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Im feeling ultimate useless against some dmg

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And If they got a 17...

jagged tree
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Its rough out there for us Kale players this season

obsidian thunder
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why are the gold emotes gone?

jagged tree
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YES

That is the question

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I been trying so hard to get the just like Caulifla emote

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And now its gone and i couldnt get it ;-;

obsidian thunder
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same, really tho, why?

jagged tree
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I only have all her rares

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I couldnt get not even her mvp emote

cloud wasp
viscid chasm
obsidian thunder
merry wave
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As the new characters get added

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Their emotes replace the old ones

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To keep the amount of total emotes in a pull the same amount

marble solar
jagged tree
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I see 3ku emojis

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I see broly emojis

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I see Ult gohan emojis

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BUT WHERE KALE EMOJIS

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This game hates Kale players smh

faint nova
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Kale is so fun to use

jagged tree
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Against the old characters yea

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But against these New ones?

If ult gohan pulls you your basically dead

cloud wasp
jagged tree
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Yea

faint nova
simple shore
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Is this character out?

fast spruce
simple shore
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I thought this post said kefla so that’s why I asked Uub

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I need more sleep

faint nova
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Kefla is like a updated version of kale

sly gale
opaque mountain
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You guys think Kale deserves a rework to her kit? Seeing lssj2 Kale’s model in Kefla’s legendary emote made me think she could definitely have at least a new kit that doesn’t drift too far away from the current kit with that transformation

jagged tree
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she needs buff

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From a Kale to another

opaque mountain
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That would work too

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I just really want ssj2 as a transformation for her

noble monolith
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I dont really play kale,because she's hard and I don't like getting her killed cause she feels bad

How do you play her

sturdy snow
noble monolith
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Got it

opaque mountain
static aspen
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before Kefla came out I mained Kale and it might be a hot take but I think she is perfect as is

jagged tree
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Try to fight a Broly or a ult gohan and then talk to me again

faint nova
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I think It would be better if she had two ults

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You have the choice of going Berserk or ssj2

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You could use berserk multiply times but in ssj2 she stays that way

opaque mountain
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And in ssj2 she could get that beam she shot with caulifla as a ult

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Id love if in the future we could have duo ults somehow

noble monolith
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I like the idea

viscid chasm
wooden solstice
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nobody nukes like kale

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sheesh

viscid chasm
jagged tree
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Although she needs a buff...

opaque mountain
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Am I wrong for wanting a slight rework/tweak to her passive Krillin

jagged tree
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Yes Sister

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Two Kales one buff

opaque mountain
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Id also love if her rush attack pre passive was a little faster

jagged tree
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Ye

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I just wanted more health tho

opaque mountain
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This too

wooden solstice
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I think she's pretty balanced

opaque mountain
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Some more health would be awesome considering she has zero mobility with ulthan bardock and kefla hanging around

wooden solstice
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She is pretty squishy

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I think her damage is in a great place right now tho

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Who do you think her best lane partner is?

jagged tree
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Caulifla ā¤ļø

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Or uh...idk Bardock

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Oh and Kid gohan too

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Boost damage+ boost damage -w-

wooden solstice
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I've got a meannnnn kid Gohan if you want to play with my fiance and I sometime this weekend

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I'm trying to get to As in tank/tech and the pipe dream of S in damage

frosty plover
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I play a mean trunks in damage, vegeta in tank and gotenks in tech!

jagged tree
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I usually main as tank

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The strongest in The Universe

wooden solstice
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Vegeta is so fun

frosty plover
jagged tree
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but i was talking about Cooler lol

wooden solstice
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Oh lmao

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Cooler is pretty fun especially with super start

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I was playing a lot of baby but I haven't been doing as well with him lately

jagged tree
jagged tree
wooden solstice
frosty plover
noble monolith
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Maybe i should try kale...

What cards

faint nova
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On the safe side you could switch giant slayer for solid barrier since she does have low health

noble monolith
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Neato.

wooden solstice
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Always snowball tho. Alwayssss

rain phoenix
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Yeah, not having snowball on kale feels almost like a throw

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Cuz farming snowball on her is so easy and its just such an easy way to up her already broken burst damage

opaque mountain
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Kale is one of the few left where snowball is genuinely just the best option for her

jagged tree
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Ye

viscid chasm
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It looks so nice for some matchups

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Almost everyone in this meta

viscid chasm
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But Is a melee build almost

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Im testing everything

wooden solstice
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I feel like kale just doesn't pump enough with her nukes unless you run snowball

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If you get caught, you're pretty much dead anyway. Idk how much defense would help

marble solar
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Kale buff

mighty kayak
#

that skill 2 looks like nuclear radiation

noble monolith
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It's like a beautiful firecracker

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I might need to learn how to use her now

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Ive been doing well with her s1 and s3,but now the s2 is interesting

viscid chasm
viscid chasm
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And a Boss for like 700 hp

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But I won that so hard

viscid chasm
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But Im testing the second and because of the cooldown Is very good

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I think that It depends of the match

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But Is better the second skill maxed

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And Im doing always the combo of third skill into first

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Sometimes you can use third- second

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But the dmg in area Is so specific

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Usually doesn't worth

viscid chasm
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Ok the second skill with the third one Is crazy

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Really usefull to farm

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And to delete Goku while genkidama

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I really like the buff, Is not what I expetected but Is fine

opaque mountain
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Im glad they’re making the usage of S3 into S2 more viable

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I like charge beam but I never really found myself prioritizing it over any thing else ever really

viscid chasm
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Ye, but Is only usefull to farm

jagged tree
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Les go Kale Mains

Our girl got buffed!

viscid chasm
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In terms of dmg Is only going to be better if the enemy can't dash

jagged tree
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She got buffed everybody!

viscid chasm
jagged tree
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Although is only her S2 that is buffed?

viscid chasm
#

Man I played a game and I was 3 levels ahead everyone

viscid chasm
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Only that

jagged tree
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Thats good actually

Her S2 was like Useless 😭

viscid chasm
#

Her s2 was good

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With a good rotation of abilities was very good

jagged tree
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S3+s1 was always more worth it imo

viscid chasm
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But the power of s2 Alone Is so good

viscid chasm
#

Now Is even better because of how you can farm

wooden solstice
#

S2 is so good at securing kills

viscid chasm
#

You got 2 of It while you are waiting for a Big combo

wooden solstice
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I found the most use out of it for fleeing characters tho

viscid chasm
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Ye

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This season Is the only one I didn't got to S in everything

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Cause of Kale state

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But with season 4 im going to play her a lot

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That Buff was amazing to get ahead of experience

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And the change to the map feels so good

faint nova
#

why can godku hit anyone on the map😭

wooden solstice
viscid chasm
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Looks like Dota

sturdy snow
viscid chasm
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I liked more the old one

viscid chasm
mighty kayak
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the map didn't change

viscid chasm
#

Level 7 or 8 to a Boss Is crazy

viscid chasm
sturdy snow
viscid chasm
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Minute 3

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But you get level 7

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Even 8 if you play It well

wooden solstice
warm charm
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hey what does the new buff to kale mean

wooden solstice
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What are u confused about exactly?

warm charm
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the whole thing

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haha

mighty kayak
fast spruce
mighty kayak
fast spruce
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Cause i recall the cross explosion, but not that it had a lingering effect

mighty kayak
fast spruce
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Now it's useful, at least

velvet badger
#

Legalize nuclear bombs
#✨game-moments message

opaque mountain
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Squeaky hammer allows kale to attack tower during ult LOL

faint nova
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kale is actually fun to use rn

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s3 is the cherry on top

opaque mountain
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Lowkey might prioritize s2 for a bit

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Im enjoying the S3 S2 buff so I kind of want to play around it more

wooden solstice
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It's fantastic in a lot of scenarios, but I don't think it's the default

deft sun
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I think it's justifiable if you got the S2 divine draw

opaque mountain
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Yeah its a lot less viable than s3 s1, but it is quite humorous to spam with elder kai

viscid chasm
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With the improve of everything I feel Kale even worse

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Now farm Is more efective, but in fight the buff doesn't work

wooden solstice
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Yeah, she seems worse in this meta

mighty kayak
viscid chasm
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But bosses and other things

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Uff

pastel marlin
wooden solstice
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But otherwise, for player damage, S1 is better

opaque mountain
#

Yeah, s2 mainly just boss and tower only

viscid chasm
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Ye

opaque mountain
#

Or if you want to snipe someone who’s trying to depart the fight while low

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Also helpful for cleaning up then

limpid anvil
#

So, on a conceptual level, Elder Kai seems like an insanely good fit for Kale’s long super timer.

Still trying to see if she’s a good fit for the meta tho.

opaque mountain
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No, but she isnt the worst pick

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But with 17 being picked more often it is getting rough out here

limpid anvil
#

I’ve noticed that.

limpid anvil
# pastel marlin Elder Kai?

Yeah, the newest supporter this season. Does the Power Awaken Dance used originally on Gohan, shortens cooldowns on all moves, rank 15 on pass.

pastel marlin
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Oh didnt bought it, just back to the game like 3 days. Last time i played was beta untill ssj3 pre release xD

viscid chasm
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Or the vegeta ssj4

opaque mountain
deft sun
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šŸ„€

opaque mountain
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Mfw Im farming alone but Bardock’s in my lane so I genuinely just solo ult him

deft sun
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And then he genuinely just runs away

opaque mountain
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No no no bardock

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No no no

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Thats gonna be a joyous 10 seconds before he respawns and catches me lacking without a ult and skill 1’s me to death

idle stag
#

what cards and skill priority does kale use?

opaque mountain
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As for skill priority i straight up skip s2

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Level 8 i max S1 get ult to level 2

idle stag
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ight ty

opaque mountain
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Indubitably

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Sometimes I swap lbj out for defense step if I feel like Im gonna be making a lot of aggro ult plays

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Especially at bosses

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I immediately pop ult on enemy secure

mellow tusk
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you dont gain anything from leveling s3 past level one, and s2 is an amazing skill idk why you would ever skip it

wooden solstice
mighty kayak
opaque mountain
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In the hopes that it’ll help me last enough to be able to fall back and preserve snowball

wooden solstice
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I just don't think barrier would do enough to actually save me

idle stag
wooden solstice
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WHY

idle stag
#

I thought levelling S3 would help with the size of the explosions

wooden solstice
#

BRO.....

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D:

wooden solstice
#

My goal this season is to end with a top 100 kale ranking šŸ¤ž

warm charm
idle stag
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Rip lol

noble monolith
#

What does levelling s3 even do?

opaque mountain
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Essentially nothing

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But its funny lol

viscid chasm
#

and grows bigger

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and the dmg by contact is bigger

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I said it is bigger ?

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and is useless

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just get level 2 and 3 of it after master everything

mighty kayak
#

the only reason you level S3 is to make it bigger and last longer

wooden solstice
#

Lasting longer is genuinely helpful for the long range nukes

opaque mountain
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That as well

warm charm
#

what are the best situation to use s3+s1 an the best sitauations to use s3 + s2

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beaucse i only ever use s1+s3 but after the buffs s2 seems to do more damage an bigger range

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like aginst tanks or bosses you melt them

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but i dont want to ignore my nuke it makes me feel alive when i land it

wooden solstice
faint nova
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Berserker backshots ?

warm charm
#

s2+s3 + elder kai just melts bosses kale is so fun man

warm charm
#

lets go am the 10th kale in the kale ranking

wooden solstice
#

Shreds

mighty kayak
wispy sierra
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I do think having higher burst for the 3 + 1 secure is better than having higher DPS to rush it with 3 + 2

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I've stuck with Furry

opaque mountain
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Got hit by bardock skill 1 into a wall and survived

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Happy days in the lower lane department(Going upper anyways)

viscid chasm
opaque mountain
wooden solstice
#

3ku absolutely destroys kale now 😭😭😭

viscid chasm
#

Kale Is not good right now

wooden solstice
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it's a matchup thing

viscid chasm
#

Almost every attack Is better

opaque mountain
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I think its moreso that kits have evolved past what kale has been dominating against in the past tbh. she still performs well

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Just nothing extraordinary

mellow tusk
#

kale is a ranged character without mobilitiy so naturally shes bad into characters who can dive her

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like kefla

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and bardock

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both got nerfed tho so most ranged characters are somewhat better now

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including kale

opaque mountain
#

Kefla can still dog kale but the bardok nerfs definitely help a ton

rain phoenix
#

I didn't know this before but s3 s2 combo does a lot and I mean a LOT of DoT damage

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Like that paired with the old supreme kai helper just decimates bosses. I can finally solo a boss as kale without ult

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And not even just for bosses, it does wonder against a whole crowd of enemies. It might not one shot instantly but it sure as hell makes people back off without immediately trying to run for their lives because they're 1 hp

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It helps a ton for the s1 follow up to clean up the stragglers

opaque mountain
viscid chasm
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But yes, It works really fine in Boss fights and some others scenarios like tower fights

rain phoenix
#

Just have your tank distract in the front line for like a good 5-10 secs and boss is secured

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It's not every game this happens but every once in a while it happens and is very doable even in high ranks

viscid chasm
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You melt anything in the attack, but anyone with a dash Is not going to get that much dmg

rain phoenix
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But for players, you can kinda just combo with god vegeta

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Cuz obviously ppl will dash out but if you aim at god vegeta then anyone that got sucked in were the poor souls whose dash didn’t let run far enough or were just at the wrong place at the wrong time

viscid chasm
#

The vegita ssg Is currently the best tank and probably character

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Works so well with the s2+ s3 as you said

rain phoenix
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Plus, if you do s3 s2 combo on the god you’re attacking/defending… it’s kinda hard for ppl to want to avoid it cuz they want to be at the god to defend it. Regardless if they have a skill to defend from a far, ppl more often than not defend up close with rush attacks

rain phoenix
viscid chasm
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Ye, defense Is really good

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For that 3 seconds

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In that case you can do some dmg with it

viscid chasm
#

I made a Big one in Hit chat

rain phoenix
#

You were just asking a question

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Questions aren’t mistakes

viscid chasm
#

I feel It ultra broken

viscid chasm
#

So that works not fine, works uncredible

viscid chasm
#

Nah, got to almost S and she Is useless another time

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Is an antinoob character

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Nothing more

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Sadly

crimson pivot
#

I don’t see her transformation button whenever I use her

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Is it just my game or something else?

limpid anvil
rain phoenix
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I got to S with her

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And that was by getting multiple 3k's or entire team wipes single handedly

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You just have to play smart with her, learn to take advantage of your and the enemy's positioning

viscid chasm
#

That almost never happens

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And new Buu just deletes you

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I still winning more than losing but that doesn't happen

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Usually they are not going to die into your S2+S3

mellow tusk
#

therefore shes an antinoob character

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she's not useless and she can still do something but shes mediocre at best

viscid chasm
rain phoenix
#

I still disagree with saying she’s mediocre at best cuz some S rank games it’s literally the enemy team’s Kale that is making the big impact to take the lead

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It’s because we didn’t have a Kale of our own that we ended up losing

rain phoenix
# mellow tusk so you used her below S

Also, if I’m being honest. A rank is NOT a rank for noobs. I thought it was and tried doing a dabura to S rank challenge for myself and I got whipped into shape, like I had to play my Kale main to carry me up 😭

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Cuz some A ranks are lowkey cracked, better mechanically than average S ranks šŸ’€

rain phoenix
rain phoenix
# viscid chasm And new Buu just deletes you

I haven’t tried going against new buu yet, but I’d imagine you just treat it like another ulthan. Just keep your distance and position yourself not too far up front or with your teammate(s) in between you and buu

viscid chasm
#

Man, people in rank A doesn't know how to play

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Idk how that happened

#

I used to have teamates with brain while getting S

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Now I don't

#

Is not even hard to get S if you have a meta character

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You have to learn a lot about the game to get S with something like Kale

viscid chasm
viscid chasm
narrow crest
#

Nah I get you A4-A3 feels vastly different to A1

viscid chasm
rain phoenix
#

If i'm point blank range of someone i would almost always resort to s3 s1, but if it's godgeta or some hero that has some sort of immunity i'll use s3 s2 instead because i would prefer DoT instead of burst. Like if Godgeta tries to his ult. Slap an s3 s2 to be waiting for him to come back

viscid chasm
#

When you use S3 you have to decide if S1 or S2, that depends of the enemy position and hp

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I don't think It is hard to hit, in early game It Is hard to

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But later you get big area

rain phoenix
#

I said it's hard to hit because people aren't stupid, if they see kale s3 they play around it, imo it's a lot easier to just hide in a bush and do a surprise s3 s1 getting two people to either 1hp or half health

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Over lobbing an s3 and trying to get someone with s1 combo, which is where i would prefer to combo with s2 regardless of how less valuable the damage output is

lone cobalt
#

Hey so would the best cards for Kale be Snowball, Solid Barrier, and Limit Breaking Jump?

crimson pivot
#

No matter what happens in the meta she’ll always be my main

viscid chasm
#

Barrier Is really usefull to keep your snowballs

#

But I use a red card instead

#

I feel that Is just better if you play really safe

#

But against some enemies like Ult Gohan or Buu, any vegeta, gotenks and maybe another enemy Is really important

#

They can destroy you in one mistake

wide owl
#

Let's be honest about the current meta

#

Broly < Kale

lone cobalt
wide owl
#

And that's why I made a whole meme about it but I can't really post it anywhere except for the whole moments channel

lone cobalt
#

Yeah Kale can get caught out and punished but her kit isn't about being in the middle of the fight like Broly's is

lone cobalt
viscid chasm
lost lark
#

people are not playing kale cause they are scared of how much skill she takes, its not that hard, she does crazy damage and if you master her no one can stop you, JUST AIM

viscid chasm
#

I main Kale, but she isn't that strong

mellow tusk
faint nova
#

If she had alittle more of mobility I’d use her more often

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There’s to many units that can get to her quickly

crimson pivot
#

No matter the meta, I’ll always use and main kale

viscid chasm
#

I mastered Kale to a point where playing others dmg makes me look worst player, like if I didn't knew to press buttons

velvet badger
#

Thanks Doc!
#✨game-moments message

mighty kayak
faint nova
#

they gave kefla the gine skin but not kale

#

this pmo

velvet badger
viscid chasm
#

Kale going to get interesting with the new modifiers

gleaming lance
#

Bro does S1 no longer lock on her S3 energy sphere?

mighty kayak
#

when did it ever lock on S3?

jagged tree
#

It always did to me

wooden solstice
#

Maybe a console thing

analog marten
#

What cards should i use

mighty kayak
solid blaze
opaque mountain
#

Aim assist has a setting where you can have s1 stick to s3

jagged tree
#

Damn

#

Against these New characters she just sucks ;-;

And i usually main her

viscid chasm
#

Im using defensive dash now because of the Goku invasion

#

Now mastering her more I feel that you can do some crazy things, but nothing special, dmg like vegito, ssj 3 or Godku can do the same and much easier

solid blaze
#

Her ult is still pretty brutal though

viscid chasm
#

The shield Is pretty easy to melt

dull cypress
opaque mountain
#

The masculine urge to try full defense kale for the lols

viscid chasm
#

I mean, her ult is everything you need

#

Is "high" skill build

#

Why would you think when you can press ult and kill 4

#

Best melee of the game

woven spade
#

i feel her ult has too long of a cooldown to be using it offensively

#

it's your "oh crap i'm in danger" button to get people off of you