Hit

[tired pecan]

any aoe tank

• krillin

any class that can spam blasts in front

just wait for him to pop stun or anything.... aim in that direction, shoot . cant stealth

what does stacking fear of death do? do they get more slow?

whats with the fov not showing... is annoying

is that a bug or what?

keep using s1 and hitting and the player does not get the small circle

[sage kite]

I already answered your question about the "stack" on fear of death and you still asked that, same with the fov against 2 enemies, and you still asked that

@tired pecan why?

If you're against a single enemy and you can't apply fod to them, then it's not on hit that's on you

[tight viper]

No because uh

It was only me and I snuck behind a frieza while invisible, the zarbon knew I was there somehow and shot me

[sage kite]

Zarbon ain't your normal npc

[tight viper]

He's still an NPC 😭 nerf him

also I think Dodoria needs less HP because thats just cancer

[sage kite]

I thought it's just farming npc but a subordinate

[carmine orchid]

sometimes stealth goes full cringe mode and needs some time to activate

click stealth a guy randomly rush attacks you

[strange spindle]

^

its especially annoying when you're in close combat and getting hit by a rush attack

you dash

but somehow the rush that you dashed away from hit you and took away your stealth

[tired pecan]

dont hate me

[hexed sky]

Bro every character needs a character they are week against. Hit is week vs frieza. Only thing is most friezas are bad so that's a positive for you hit players

The fact that hit can hit towers while invisible should never be a thing. And there's only 2 characters that can stop you guys from doing that.

Krilln and frieza

[dense haven]

Any Hit mains feel as if Hit should've gotten a transformation?

He had one in xenoverse 2 called "Pure Progress"

I thought it was pretty cool

[stable raven]

i think im moving on...hit asks for too much and gives too little

feels like im playing a completely different game

[tight viper]

kinda same for me, he's rewarding but very VERY situational. If your opponent is with a teammate he doesn't even stagger or reduce vision

Kinda disappointing because he's ny favorite character in the entire series

[tight viper]

and yes, I remember that. I mained him for the longest

[sage kite]

You're basically agreeing with me instead of what you think in you're head on what you're saying to me

We've had this discussion before and y'all just tryna reignite an already finished conversation

"You hit players" funny.

[dim zodiac]

You Hit players lol

[hexed sky]

I'm not a hit player

[sage kite]

At the end of the day, you're still agreeing with me tho

[hexed sky]

Only thing good about him is that he can take towers down while invis. Otherwise he's trash

[dim zodiac]

Hit?

If you're talking about Hit you just don't know how to play him

[hexed sky]

I never ran into one that's a problem but I'm a freza player. Soooo that's probably why

[dim zodiac]

He's good

very good

[sage kite]

Recently beat a decent frieza

Just beat another 0 death frieza

By 0 death I meant the frieza has 0 death and lost

His teammates were the issue and I capitalized on that

He could've beaten us single handedly with just tower taking play

But because he likes to go in the backseat of his minions, we just capitalize on bosses so yea

[sand gorge]

They just don't know how to slow down enemies,
Reset skills every combo.
Don't mind them

Once they reached rank A tech, they'll be addicted to play hit

[calm needle]

As a Hit player, he definitely ain't trash. He's as annoying as Sableye while being more competant than Sableye

[solemn crystal]

I unlocked Hit yesterday and got MVP with him in my second match. I'm on the lower ranks still but at that rank people just doesn't seem to be aware that he can be already hiding in the bushes at 35 seconds of the game start. Do players on higher ranks already try to be cautious there?

[calm needle]

You just need to fight a Hit once and you'll forever be paranoid

[solemn crystal]

I feel my opponents got that feeling already xd

Hit is very fragile tho

Most of the time I always go with the 3 technical cards but I might change some things up

[dim zodiac]

full offense can work when you got a good Hit and our confident in you're run.

[solemn crystal]

With the partners I have I really have to carry

Nobody stays behind to protect the gods at D rank

They always just push

[dim zodiac]

You mean their playing the game like a DB fan

use the server for squadding up might help

[tight viper]

I do, but you barely land combos with how many restrictions there are on his passive

[solemn crystal]

Probably do that yeah

[tight viper]

If there's a teammate near them, no passive even if you land the skill to reduce their vision. If they're near a teammate, no stagger on his skill 2 no matter what.

Plus Frieza kinda counters Hit if they just camp next to dodoria or zarbon since they literally know where you are while you're invisible

[solemn crystal]

Yeah

[tight viper]

and can interrupt you

Too many times there's been a random zarbon that shot me while my 3 was active

[calm needle]

I'm actually thinking limit break jump might be ridiculous with his ult, as in that card was made for his ult specifically

[solemn crystal]

I'll be cautious of that

I'm alternating between that and backstab

Not sure which one I prefer

[tight viper]

I mostly use limit breaking jump since if they're competent and have a teammate next to them you can't be out of their FOV

I honestly think his lvl 1 S1 needs more range, it's not even long enough to hit someone outside of their FOV if there are no bushes around

[solemn crystal]

I used super snowball, giant slayer and limit breaking jump in the last 2 matches

[calm needle]

That's what I was thinking. The damage you lack from not going red, I'm going to assume his stealth will more than make up for it, especially if you pick off squishies / low health

[calm needle]

Definitely, I'd like if he was more of a sniper, something like Inteleon who coincidently also uses stealth

[tight viper]

I might just stop playing Hit unless they buff his passive 😭 he is quite literally useless if they have a teammate anywhere near them, either buff his S1 or nerf the default FOV range because it's insane how many moves get shut down since they're with a teammate

He's my favorite character in all of dragon ball but he's just too situational to actually feel good to play with

[solemn crystal]

He should be effective against 2 players early game if your teammate does minor work

[calm needle]

I mean, I wouldn't say he's useless lol, Hit is still very good, he's just probably the hardest character. He's also probably the best at sneaky GoD breaks (I just won a game because I was able to sneak passed two fights and break GoDs)

[solemn crystal]

Giving hit the highest difficulty scale is accurate tho

[tight viper]

Yeah, also they should change how zarbon and dodoria can detect Hit while he's invisible

[calm needle]

I would like his S1 to be a little longer, though, something like Inteleon would really, be perfect. It probably wouldn't break him, but it would also give the enemy something else to think about with Hit.

[tight viper]

yeah, or like I said

decrease the default FOV range

Hold on I'm gonna go into training to see how big it is

[solemn crystal]

I have no idea who Inteleon is

[tight viper]

I'm assuming LoL

[calm needle]

He's in Pokemon Unite, another stealth / assassin hero, but he's an actual sniper

[tight viper]

ah

I used to play Pokemon unite, was he added later?

[calm needle]

reasonably later

[tight viper]

probably why I haven't heard of them

Kinda got me wanting to watch Pokemon, but I don't wanna learn about the 80 million pokemon

Hit feels to situational and asks for too much imo, just not being able to use my passive if they have a teammate near feels so sucky, cant stagger and sometimes even when I teleport away with my 3 I still get hit and I die for it

[sage kite]

There is a stagger, it might just be chaotic for you to even notice it

I've said it before, the vision doesn't matter, as long as you attack from the outside of the marked enemy's fov (if you have the range ingrained to your brain), they'll still be damaged like how you would in a 1v1 encounter

[solemn crystal]

I'm watching the anime, at the gen 9 anime now

[tight viper]

Maybe I'm not noticing it, but I swear it looks like they're moving when I attack them because their FOV is increased when they're next to a teammate

[tight viper]

Ah, I've watched some of the OG and I watched the first movie back when I had a VHS 💀

Unfortunate but I'm probably gonna drop Hit, at least for now. Got a character to recommend?

[solemn crystal]

Role dependent

I played cooler like twice or three times only and oh boy

I got the gold mark

[tight viper]

I could definitely use him, I'm thinking him/gohan/baby

[solemn crystal]

I had a hard time with baby

Teammates stole kills

[tight viper]

Only reason I have a hard time is because my teammates decide to run away as soon as I possess them

[solemn crystal]

Ff

[tight viper]

With cooler I just don't know what to level up first

and don't know when to level up his supernova

[solemn crystal]

Asap I think

It does so much damage with a great aoe

[tight viper]

I need to more levels to unlock Trunks/17/Gammas and I only have 400 zeni

[solemn crystal]

Zeni is a really big issue

Thankfully Season 1 adjusts it

[hasty rose]

So what do yall prioritize when upgrading skills. Trying to learn hit and kinda struggling in 2v2 scenarios

[tight viper]

His 3 and 1 for me

He's kinda annoying to use for me since a lot of his passive is shutdown when enemies fight together

[sand gorge]

Max s1 first, use bush,.
If it hits, that one will run,. Then use s3, s2 to kill tech.

Free hit if fov hit both with s1

Fod I mean

[hasty rose]

I see

[sage kite]

Max 3 first...

[tired pecan]

So thats why... you can only debuff on alone players?

[sand gorge]

No need to max s3, if you can do combo reset skills

[hasty rose]

And what about cards

Been a lil risky with snowball,prepare to die and either limit breaking jump, backstab, and pursuer but idkkkkk snowball feels like a coin flip

[sand gorge]

Lighting is better if you can do combo

You can use s1 twice

[tired pecan]

I dod gekishinn burst card and sneaky break gods

3 seconds the enemy doesnt protect god you destroy

[sand gorge]

In rank A, one player stay to guard god

[tight viper]

Yup, at least for me.

[tight viper]

Can you do me a favor

[sand gorge]

Use ulti to debuff all, then you can 1v1 your target

The other will just run since they can't see you

[tight viper]

Can you screen record a game and send it to me? I need to see how you play

Dunno if I'm making a mistake or if I'm just getting downright screwed over

[sand gorge]

You want to see combo reset skills?

[tight viper]

Sure, well I also just wanna see you play a game. It feels like I'm playing a nerfed Hit, even when I'm outside of their circle I'll use my 2 and it won't stagger

[sage kite]

The cd doesn't matter, what matters is the full uptime duration

[sand gorge]

level 2 S2 to stagger

[sage kite]

Everybody knows that

The stagger duration doesn't change

[sand gorge]

Because you're using s2 wrong, put fod first then s2

You'll see the mark on target, icon of hit

[tight viper]

Yeah but I do s3, s1, attack, dash back, s2 back into s3 and repeat

bht when I dash out of their circle and s2 it just decides not to stagger

[sage kite]

How am I using it wrong when I haven't said how I do my combos what?

Crazy assumption

[sand gorge]

Because you have to put fod first

Passive skill first before skills

Mean rush atk

Bush rush atk, or s3 rush atk

Gets?

Then you can do your own combo

[sage kite]

?????

Like I said, how did you know I'm doing my combo wrong

[sand gorge]

Then when do you use s2 Stagger?

[sage kite]

I never said how I do my combos and I'm doing it "wrong"?

[sand gorge]

You want to know why s2 stagger because you use s2 without passive

[sage kite]

Holy assumption, LIKE I SAID EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT GODDAMN

[sand gorge]

Either you use s3 then s2 or s1 then s2,. It's both wrong

The is bush and rush atk

The key

[vocal hound]

Just hold your rush in ur GOD zone when u know there’s a Hit on the team. Thats just good IQ is it not

Cause I’ve definitely been stopped by Majin Buu before lol

[solemn crystal]

From my experience if you get the super snowball then you need that 3 maxed out. He is very fragile and you need all the tools to escape and not lose your stacks

Deathblow has an okay range on higher levels and it can catch players who are low on health and runs away without you needing to get too close

[calm needle]

I've just won so many games by sneaky breaks alone. If a Hit is on the team someone really should probably hang back near a GoD

[calm needle]

Yeah, you have to play UBER safe with snowball

[solemn crystal]

Today in all of my games I had to stay back at the gods actually because everyone else pushed xd

Hit the GOD protecting Assasin with 4 stacks of snowball, slayer and backstab

[calm needle]

Defending with Hit is impressive. Fortunately, he makes the enemy team cautious just by existing

[solemn crystal]

not when clouds are up...

they just spam ults into the clouds

and then go for a burst

btw I'm a bit confused at how exactly gekishin burst works

you deal damage to the god even if you are charging and get interupted?

either that or I hit my opponents too late and they got the invincibility shield already and I couldn't notice

[fierce iris]

Is it me or is Bojack a nightmare to fight

[solemn crystal]

didn't face one head to head

[fierce iris]

Not in a 1v1 persay

Just when they have a Bojack

[calm needle]

I can see his mines being a little irritating since they'll break Hit's stealth

I've being tending to grab the level 2 skill 1 since skill 2 stays at the base level, for the most part right at the start of a match. I'm wondering if I'm gimping myself if I do this with other characters though. My thought process is that while most people will have more skills since they'll be taking their base skills first, it might give me a slight damage advantage?

[dim zodiac]

not really

[tired pecan]

it doesnt not always happens, sometimes they chase you

they start throwing blasts and detect you

never try to fight back, just s1 or rush hit invisible, GO BACK, try to stun of hes fov, then go back, hide again etc

i think my worst mistake was trying to fight back enemies

try to stay near bushes, or try to bring enemy near bushes . so you can loop over and over in and out of bushes

also if enemy coming to bushes , try to hold down attack to attack him as soon as in range, or he will enter bushes and will see you

[sand gorge]

You have to backstab the enemy, auto aim basically ATK front, no target.
S3 can do that

[frosty loom]

question for hit players. how the hell do you properly fight hit

[calm needle]

AoE is your friend. Or play Frieza

[frosty loom]

i am playing freeza. the question remains

do dodoria and zarbon detect him through stealth or something? i don't see why freeza would be advantageous otherwise

[calm needle]

I, actually never noticed. I just know I despise that pale lizard

[solemn crystal]

Managed to turn around an unwinnable match with hit

Solo defended our last god atleast 4 times

But somehow didn't get mvp

[calm needle]

I actually don't know how mvp works. I've gotten Hit mvps when I probably shouldn't have.

[solemn crystal]

Brrooo 1 point till c1

[sand gorge]

I'm Stuck at tech rank A hit,. I want to reach rank S but the season 0 will end soon

[calm needle]

Have you just tried to focus on breaking GoDs? That might be able to push your team over the line

[sand gorge]

There's atleast 1 enemy guarding gods,.

Their strategy guarding the gods is to give signal to others,.

Promote then demote again

One last rank to S
But ended up demote

[calm needle]

Are you guys finding more or less bots in A rank?

[solemn crystal]

I'm only in C with 1 role tf you mean A rank xD

[sage kite]

You can spot bots based on their divine cards

[solemn crystal]

Also I had a weird match

The whole enemy team went on the top lane

At the start

[calm needle]

How so?

[sand gorge]

Idk , if that's bot

Vanishing, side step and dodges skills are not?

Or bot?

[sage kite]

I only know attacker atm, lightning swift, art of decoy, and wicked warrior

I've posted pics of wins/losses with those bots

[calm needle]

bumrushing honestly doesn't seem like a half bad strat. As the old adege says: "Monkeys, together. Strong"

[solemn crystal]

HOOOOHOOHOHOHO

[sage kite]

Regardless of which attacker is playing, that will be their cards and they'll never change it

[solemn crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonball-z-frieza-laugh-destroy-maniac-gif-5143303

[sand gorge]

Maybe bots when you met 2 goku

[solemn crystal]

We can't share gifs? That's a shame...

[solemn crystal]

Frieza laughing at monkeys

[sage kite]

Okay?

[dusky night]

Can anyone tell me if I should get the hit or the cell?

I really want the hit, but seeing my teammates playing it didn't seem like a good character

[strange spindle]

Do you play technical a lot

[sage kite]

We just recommend cell or 18 because unless you're gonna commit taking the time to learn about hit and all that, take the easier route of using tank/damage characters

[tight viper]

I need someone to record their Hit game

[sage kite]

I can send it to you using send anywhere if you want

[tight viper]

mind sending it in dms?

[sage kite]

How can I send it in dms when you can only send like 20mb or smth

[tight viper]

ah yeah forgot about that

[sage kite]

Unless nitro

[tight viper]

Well how do you wanna send it?

[sage kite]

.

I've already said it smh

[tight viper]

Funny I never heard of that 🤣 I'll get it

I thought you meant you'll send it anywhere

[sage kite]

Aight hold on I'm in a middle of a match

[tight viper]

alright

they should change the visuals, make it to where the person you blindeds FOV overlaps their teammate so you know how big the circle is

[sage kite]

I just dmed you

[ornate barn]

skill level prio for hit?

[solemn crystal]

3 and 1

[ornate barn]

thanks

[hasty rose]

Which dps character do you like playing along with

[solemn crystal]

I had good Goku and Boujack teammates

[sand granite]

anything not too squishy tbh

had success with dabura teammates too despite dabura not being that tanky

[proven tinsel]

Goku and bojak I feel is best

[proven tinsel]

Piccolo worst

[solemn crystal]

Oh yeah Dabura with petrification makes for consistent kills from stealth

[chrome brook]

Got destroyed by hit he's actually sleeper busted if you know how to use him

He lowkey might be s tier

[hasty rose]

I can’t get anything done with Daima Goku partner lolol no shade to people who main him

Feels like a throw pick sometimes

[tired pecan]

hit feels like a weaker picolo

except the stun, which in picolo is a slow

is not how u use it, this character NEEDS A BUFF

any player with a good skill level with hit could do much better with any other character

you cant do anything more than sniping in teamfights, fear only works when enemies are not together

[stray tulip]

I disagree personally, unless Hit was to be changed up to be more vulnerable as a compromise. A good Hit who keeps an eye on his Dimensional Infiltration cooldown is one that will almost never die unless they overextend and make a mistake, which makes for far too frustrating an opponent.

[hasty rose]

Group fights def my biggest struggle but I just be Savin it for them so idk

Def feel more passive in big fights feel like I be letting team die, but if played right I cook

[sand granite]

against groups honestly just throw ult to help, use shu helper because big aoe support, and keep throwing skill 1s from far

if you're using snowball you may get some assists/kills just by spamming skills from far especially if running backstab

[rigid plaza]

Hit's ult makes me crap myself

It is very scary

[tight viper]

😅

[dim zodiac]

false

Hit is good your just trash

Nah im kidding to play Hit you have to be good at running and knowing when to attack

so you want to max your S3 and S1 first then ult

With Hit you can then do a lot of fancy stuff like basically soloing enemies. Defend increrdibly well and get a lot of kills

[hoary ore]

does he do that kinda dmg ? to solo ?

i didnt see many hit players yet but he doesnt seem much strong

[jaunty canopy]

I don’t really find myself ulting much

I usually save it for backcapping lmao

Definitely useful for teamfights but I feel like it’s level 1/2 range is solid enough

[kind spade]

He can but you do have to use him effectively and be able to use stealth to your advantage. I think he has a pretty high skill ceiling compared to the rest of the cast.

[jaunty canopy]

Most players havent unlocked the level 31 characters yet

Or want to play a difficult character like Hit

[hoary ore]

yeah when i saw the video reveal of hit he was one of my most wanted but then seeing him in game and people comments it take me the will to try..

[dim zodiac]

We had this conversation before

He takes skill and when you use him to his full potential he’s very good

[hoary ore]

do you have videos playing of him to see how it works?

[jaunty canopy]

Every time I play Hit I understand why people complain about him more and more

[sage kite]

Unless you have proper tech counters like frieza krillin buu, you're gonna struggle against hit

I'm not mentioning damage/tank chars that obv can just big aoe their way through hit

[jaunty canopy]

Buu doesnt really counter Hit

[dense haven]

Thoughts on Hit's idle animation?

[sage kite]

Not directly ofc, buu can just heal themselves and with too easy card, they're just gonna tank what hit can do and with buu s1 having decent cd, he can check bushes efficiently on top of the escape s3 (not to mention if he has rillo that can also taunt you if they timed it correctly)

[upbeat glacier]

What divine cards do you all use?

[sand granite]

Snowball Prepare to Die Backstab

[jaunty canopy]

^

[upbeat glacier]

Ye seemed best when i been playing him

[solemn crystal]

Depends

When I feel like my teammate suck I go full offensive set

[sharp pine]

For me i go with lightning swift, giant slayer, and instant transmission

The double vanish be clutching me alot

It also works well with your combos

[solemn crystal]

I use that for my "Assasin" mode

[sharp pine]

3-1-2-rush attack- vanish step and repeat

Its so nasty

😭

[solemn crystal]

Ssj3 Goku with 3-1 be like lol

[sharp pine]

Oh god

[solemn crystal]

He will have instant kill on lows all match with IT Super kame

[upbeat glacier]

Why giant slayer vs the other red?

[sage kite]

It just depends on the enemy lineup or your burst capability, if they're squishy, the other red but if they're tanky, giant slayer

[sharp pine]

It deals the most damage

Especially because ur main source of dmg is the 1

[upbeat glacier]

What rank are you guys? Any S hit players?

[solemn crystal]

I'll always use the ult in the wide area but I wonder how would it be to ult from a bush/cloud and prevent enemies from actually getting you

[carmine orchid]

i've got to A1 and i went solo and deranked 😂

giant slayer is 20% the entire fight if they are above 80%, but if they fight at 79 you never proc it

prepare goes grom 15% to 25% and you always proc it so

[tired pecan]

whats your best card builds u get there

[carmine orchid]

there is not

snowball if you win the first engage, lightning swift otherwise, if you didn't kill and get levels the burst you get from it secures the lane. Its a fixed damage number you get after hitting a skill after a vanish, and vanish is part of your combo already

then if they are are always uga buga all inning go giant slayer, other wise prepare to die. If you stacked snowball consider solid barrier, is 75% global damage reduction for 2 seconds and you normally are the first attacking. Third is double vanish no question

if you take backstab you either troll or you can't play hit

if you want i'm streaming now

[tired pecan]

i had a super good kale and we owned the lane

[upbeat glacier]

@carmine orchid nice info bro. I only solo q lol. What do you do for hits combo do you auto or S2 first

[carmine orchid]

auto if you need damage

S2 instant stun has its places if someone can guarantee it

if you want to auto s2 you have to know they are going to dash back 99% so most of the time you need to dash forward side preemptively

like, if someone is running at 50% hp and you have a goku following, you s2 and let him enjoy snowball stacks

[upbeat glacier]

Ok double blink force field feels nice

[upbeat glacier]

@carmine orchid how much dmg does prepare to die give or is force field prob always better?

[carmine orchid]

15% activates once hitting below 50%, after 2 seconds it becomes 25%

if you are steamrolling or securing kills, you go for it, if they play good and you can't force kills you go solid barrier and play like a rat

[upbeat glacier]

It seems good man the shield you can hit people infront of their squad lll

[autumn relic]

why is backstab a troll pick

[carmine orchid]

If you can do 6x rotations because of backstab, It means they are trolling or you are behind and do no damage.
If you are ahead 1 combo Is enough, if you have to fight for so long you are probably overextending.
He already resets stealth cd, and if you proc the passive correctly your cds Will be back already after 1 rotation.
Stealth Is not instant during combat, so if you have to retreat most of the time 1 Dash Is not enough and they Will know your stealth direction.
I mean try both, spam backstab and count the times people escaped/you could have run away with a Dash more.
Unless you have 0 moba experience, bonus flash/dashes are always kinda mandatory

It "may" be usable if you went solid barrier

[tawny mirage]

how do I prevent getting out of stealth against characters that have aoe damage like vegeta or am in a team fight? I can't just lure one of the enemies to have a 1v1 or use hit's abilities to the maximum

just got him yesterday. So could you explain about the cd reduction

I read his kit but nothing related to that was given

Also can somebody tell me how to use his ult perfectly and under what conditions?

[carmine orchid]

once you hit anything from stealth, both empowered autos and skill 1/2, you get 1/3rd of stealth cd back, you can try in training mode you get a portion as green

you don't instantly stealth when in combat, is more like 1s delayed so they normally now where you escaped unless you put blind on all of them

that's why you get double vanish, so you can have 3 dashes to escape these 2s full screen aoe dash mofos

also, you never go straight into the enemy, you have to "flank" so they won't randomly beam you. Also carefull of exploding NPCs mod, that breaks stealth too and so does "mark" and assists

[sage kite]

You can literally see in the kit about cooldown reductions

[tawny mirage]

Oh sorry my bad. I guess I forgot as I read it like 3 days ago to decide which one among the 3 tier 1 characters to get

So if i ever get super start, what skill should I prioritise. Deathblow?

[carmine orchid]

S1 any day

1>3>2 most of the time

[tawny mirage]

ok thanks man

Since hit can't tank. Is it fine to use lightning swift, art of decoy and limit breaking ...?The 3rd card and 1st one synergises well

[carmine orchid]

art of decoy is bad

take solid barrier

[tawny mirage]

ok

[carmine orchid]

LS is actually pretty good on him unless you are sure you are gonna stomp, at that point is snowball>prepare to die

[tawny mirage]

I am only c4 on technical so I am using hit to rank up + he's too fun

[sharp pine]

Yeah, my divine cards would be lightning swift, giant slayer, and the double vanish card

Very good to chain up ur combos

[carmine orchid]

I don't like GS on him be because o normally poke them lower enough before all inning, so the damage buff never last that long... Unless you ult them

They should have call them "DEPENDS Cards"

[sharp pine]

Agreed

It just all depends on the lineup

[upbeat glacier]

Is it possible to carry really bad people solo q as a supp? I seem to struggle when you get a bot dps. You can't farm enough or play good enough it seems.

[sage kite]

You can at low elo

[upbeat glacier]

Ye I figured that after trying 😭

Ill try backdoor tower build

[autumn relic]

I legitmately don't know how hit does anything early unless the opponent walks into you and willingly lets you ambush them 50 times in a row

[carmine orchid]

level 3 is kinda bad

[sand granite]

steal npcs with skill 1

best you can do

[slim flint]

Is wicked not worth it given how much we chase rush?

I ask because usually I can disengage just fine with single vanish and reapplied s3, and I like the additional pressure between cds

[slim flint]

Did some more back reading and especially with lightning step but in general I see the value in double vanish nvm

I do wonder: for early before you get more levels on stealth to make its duration efficient to be a true combo, do you vanish step before your attacks for the immediate damage, or just let it go if you don’t get the kill?

Since the two second window seems a little narrow

[sage kite]

Uhh no leveling up the stealth skill doesn't reduce the cd

[slim flint]

It lengthens duration which opens up better plays

[sage kite]

I know it lengthens the duration to make it a full uptime at max

I'm just correcting that leveling up the skill doesn't reduce the cd

You're increasing the duration, not reducing the cd

[burnt surge]

This tbh

[calm needle]

That rage Hit skin is really going to tempt me for the BP

[cursive orchid]

double s1 and steal mobs

[carmine orchid]

I go S1>3>2, if you go S1 2 points you are dead weight untill level 6.
BUT, as many characters, if you don't put a point in anything at 7, you can max out S1 at level 8 plus level ult

[carmine orchid]

Don't think so, we rush only if the kit Is off cd, not sure if It increases boosted auto damage have to test It. You get third card too late, if It was the first maybe

[slim flint]

Do you get an extra point, or is it that the level eight allows you to pick the same move twice?

Also, are we maxing 1 before getting 3 to second stage?

[calm needle]

Honestly, I do quite like double S1 at the start of the game

[carmine orchid]

the point is that at 8 you get 1 point and you normally put it into ult, if you skip level 7 you can super + max 1, which would come at level 9. On characters like him and Kale s1 is mandatory

[slim flint]

Why would you skip seven though?

Two through eight looks like

Skill 1, skill 3, skill 2, ult, skill 1, skill 1, ult, yes?

You can level skill one up twice in a row on manual so why skip 7?

(Also I’m not convinced you actually need to level up ult past initial purchase but I’d love to be convinced otherwise, I’ve started running into people who don’t level it past base and I’m curious)

[carmine orchid]

man i've just explained lol

if you skip 7 you end up at 8 with 2 skill points, and you cannot max a skill before 8. If you don't skip 7, you have to put a point into s3 and max s1 at level 9, on some character is just too massive

Kale skips s2 entirely too, does skip level 7 and gets ulkt and huge s1, same concept, unless you giga dislike hit ult but at that point better change character

if you put a skill on 7, you can either max or get ult at 8, not both

[slim flint]

That’s the missing piece of info: I didn’t know you couldn’t max a skill before 8, thank you

[slim flint]

Wait so do you not get his ult at 5?

Or do you mean point 2

[carmine orchid]

man just try in training lol

[jaunty canopy]

S1 > S3 > S2 > S1 lvl 2 > Ult

That’s usually my early game pathing for level priority

Ult isn’t all too important aside from securing some kills or using it over Android 16

[slim flint]

Do you find yourself needing the third point in stealth?

Im thinking about leaving ult at 1 and stealth at 2 until late to max out tower burst damage because level 2 stealth might be fluid enough to work with for practical use

[jaunty canopy]

Yeah after I get ult I usually prioritize his 1 and 3

Perma stealth is just very strong and max 1 helps a lot for damage routes

Like S1 > S2 will already get most squishies fairly low

And if you’re running backstab you will most likely have your S3 back up to proc a boosted rush attack

[slim flint]

So by 9 you’re looking at max s1 and s3 with 1 level in the others?

Also, what are you liking for the early cards with backstab then?

[jaunty canopy]

I typically go for Snowball and Prepare to Die

Hit can pretty reliably get kills on top if coordinated well with a team so you just start snowballing with your burst damage

The vanish step red card is also helpful if you think it’s going to be a bit more difficult to get kills

I generally only use it late game if I lose my snowball stacks and just would rather get some immediate value

[formal cloud]

Never thought of it like that I grabbed that because of ease of use

[jaunty canopy]

Yeah Hit is very flexible depending on how you want to play

He already likes using vanish step often so it’s an extra benefit

[formal cloud]

Usually why I grab that

I poke and Vanish step away

Hide with S2 and get backstabb

[jaunty canopy]

You theoretically could also take the first Blue that lowers your cooldowns if you attack GoDs

[slim flint]

I usually find myself tower busting so I think I’ll give that a go

[formal cloud]

I do that most games

[jaunty canopy]

I wouldn’t really recommend it unless you literally can’t get a kill with your team

And are focused on backcapping

[formal cloud]

I switch cards in game depending on how my team is playing

[slim flint]

It’s a late game swap tech for me the way you do with step

If I need to back door hard I’ll swap it in

[jaunty canopy]

I still run reds and can backcap fine but ig if that’s what your main playstyle is then go for it

Max out 3 first while you’re at it

[slim flint]

Early I play for kill advantage , but if we’re getting hard rolled or it’s going to be a 2v1 lane I go full backcap

[jaunty canopy]

Makes sense

[slim flint]

S1 prio still makes sense though you can always farm to 9 to get your tools online

I’m a Sableye player from unite and hit is refreshing 😆

[jaunty canopy]

I feel that

I miss playing Sableye but they made him terrible so I stopped

[carmine orchid]

i cant ult is just too broken, if they go past middle screen one dies at least

i'm doing level 7 skip on like 80% of the cast, maxing priority skill at level 8 is such an advantage, especially because sometimes you reach second boss at 8 if you don't gigastomp

[slim flint]

Tried a few matches with the improved move priority tweaks, backstab, and gekishen high since we lost early trades and that was a fun set of games 🤩 I’ve got my new way to play and it’s very effective

Died once in two matches, and not at all in two, and got three gods per game with respectable damage and kills, 3 or more with 5 or more assists and 150k+ damage on the back door build

[carmine orchid]

lowkey i think gekishin high is giga troll unless the only use for your ult is to get towers. His cds already basically get to 1s when you use all of them on a tower. It works much better if you have frieza and, if you burst,your skils are on 20s cd.
Cds are too low and you can still do your job, if you could rotate 75 skills on a tower it means it was dead anyways

[eternal sluice]

guys who do you think i should choose hit or cell from the star collection

[upbeat glacier]

@eternal sluice hit

[eternal sluice]

okay

thanks

[slim flint]

My tier 1 card priority is snowball if the first exchange went well, lightning if it was even, and G High if we’re getting destroyed or it’s late game and I am pivoting to tower Zerg

[carmine orchid]

ok at this point i can agree

[severe venture]

Just unlocked hit, he's so fun 🤓

[severe venture]

Am I not meant to be able to hit mobs in stealth?

[sage kite]

No, the stealth enhanced rush attack is only for the characters, you can get out of stealth against npcs with skill 2 to keep attacking them

[viral cave]

I like that you can only do it on players so it wont hit npcs in the way but it really makes grinding a pain

[severe venture]

I find myself getting stuck in stealth sometimes, because there's nothing around 💀

[terse ermine]

As Hit do you prioritize S1 and S3? Its hard to know what S2 does do at higher levels...

[sage kite]

S2 just gives then increases shockwave to the back of the enemy

When you hit them with s2

[sage kite]

Prio skill 1 if you want to be more damage oriented but don't mind having limited stealth duration aside from camping in clouds/bush

Prio skill 3 if you want to be more stealthy and make your enemies paranoid but need to be up close and personal to do them combos

[tired pecan]

i think backstab was made for hit.

[carmine orchid]

keep using it while i oneshot you ahaha

[tired pecan]

lol

whats ur build

[carmine orchid]

not backstab

[errant osprey]

I finally got Hit today! It took me forever to get to 31 because of not having much Zeni for upgrades 😮‍💨

[severe venture]

Billy badass over here

[jaunty canopy]

I don’t really see why you wouldn’t want to run backstab

Let’s you basically just stay Perma invis in some cases when you’re in a fight

Just really consistent and makes his combos more fluid

[carmine orchid]

i mean

do it

untill you get why you don't

at that point i''d get pursuer and do my job faster

[severe venture]

I have to agree you dont really get that much value from backstab, if the enemy team has a bunch of aoe

[jaunty canopy]

At that point you aren’t getting much value out of Hit no?

Backstab literally just works perfectly with his game plan

Late game he just needs to play way more cautious with where he moves when invis

[sage kite]

It doesn't really matter if the enemy has aoe or not, backstab triggers after you're being discovered so the stealth into s1 will not reduce your s1's CD but s2 will because you're appearing before them before you attack

Which is why backstab is a funny on some chars

[slim flint]

The nature of the s2 open from hit lets backstab reset s1 and 3 combos faster

Meanwhile pursuit rewards lengthy engagements that hit doesn’t usually do 🤷🏿‍♂️

It’s not like either choice is bad but backstab is synergistic

[sage kite]

S3 doesn't really benefit from backstab... S3 benefits from your passive

[slim flint]

I worded myself poorly: by resetting s1 that touch faster you get to s1 s2 open reset s1 rush open cycle

It doesn’t affect s3 it affects the combo flow though since it has natural gaps

[tired pecan]

Guys what skill order?

[sage kite]

I'm still confused by your wording

[slim flint]

1-3-ult-2

[carmine orchid]

if you need to rotate your kit 2 times you are already in a bad situation

[sage kite]

[carmine orchid]

and at that point you just click ult and do the same

[tired pecan]

this hero is a bit like akali from League

[carmine orchid]

the moment they get you you can't use stealth to reset with backstab

which is useless

[tired pecan]

or a bit like katarina

[carmine orchid]

at that moment you whished you had solid barrier or double vanish

[slim flint]

I don’t plan my more often than 1 minute engages on a minute + cooldown

[tired pecan]

you get resets for doing certain stuff

[carmine orchid]

just did 165k score now just by getting all towers for free with double vanish abusing 10s on solid

[tired pecan]

when to use ulti? before battle or during battle

i just nopticed even with ulti on they can catch you if you are melee range

[sage kite]

Depends, it's a versatile ult

[sage kite]

That's still applicable with s3

[tired pecan]

goku for exmple

he just keep chaasing u with your ulti on

[sage kite]

More specifically doing s3 after using enhanced rush

[sage kite]

For that situation, immediately use s3 instead of waiting for your automatically stealth to activate because close range rush attack will remove that stealth no matter what

[tired pecan]

ok so to get out either vanish or S3

ult is for getting in

[sage kite]

Don't vanish, it's still short to be avoidable

Unless your s3 is in the lower levels, you can just s3 far away

[tired pecan]

vs a goku?

what does leveling s3 do

increase distance?

[sage kite]

Dash distance and duration yes

[tired pecan]

i tought it was only duration

[carmine orchid]

at max is basically infinite

[tired pecan]

yes

[carmine orchid]

i think cd is less than actual duration

[tired pecan]

poerma invi

[sage kite]

It's still the same

[tired pecan]

ok so - 1-3-ult and 2

[dusty edge]

Gekishin-Barrier-LBJ?

[sage kite]

Oh nvm I read it wrong

[tired pecan]

i supose level 1 2 and 3 is 1 2 3 skill?

to have at least 1 stun?

[carmine orchid]

gekishin is bad

unless you can't do damage, all your team is 2 levels behind and you need to rat towers

[sage kite]

1-3-2 at the start

[carmine orchid]

you have 5s cd spells the moment you click the last the first is at 1s cd at worse so no reason

gekishin works on frieza because you save like 13 s cd on burst

you save 0.5s ahahah

[sage kite]

So that at lvl 3, you have both a projectile and an escape

[dusty edge]

So I guess LS or Snowball then, but I feel like Snowball would just be better at that point lol since if you're good you shouldn't be getting swept as Hit

[tired pecan]

then at 4 2 ? and 5 ulti

[sage kite]

Yes

[tired pecan]

and then in the order of 1 - 3 -ulti and 2

[sage kite]

.

[tired pecan]

i think this week im getting better with hit

[carmine orchid]

ye i think if you get snowball solid barrier to save stacks is pretty nice

sure if its an easy game you can get prepare to die on top

[sage kite]

When playing in bush, just bob and weave so you can proc the passive quicker

[tired pecan]

i do that , i hold lmb

and walk towards the line

sometimes it does the rush super fast lol

[dusty edge]

I used to do that a lot until I realize Barrier was just safer

[slim flint]

I’m a fan of the barrier tech

[carmine orchid]

got a team with tech and 2 dps with solid and it was so hard, you basically either poke it or you loose 2 seconds in a teamfight

which is massive

probably more because your spells are in cd now

[tired pecan]

Bro i just got superpowers or no idea

i ruled with hit this match

7/1/2

enemy team just surrendered

snowball+barrier+pursuer

[fierce iris]

Doing this guy's combos feels so good

Like it's a certain joy that can't be replicated

[civic mason]

What shpuld i be leveling for hit

[winged shadow]

PSA TO ALL HITS: PLEASE USE YOUR INVIS AND ATTACK THE OPPONENTS GODS

every match I get with a Hit is someone that doesn’t know they can do that

[carmine orchid]

is not like that is a must, you use brain and get advantage where you can, if i have to attack god and make my team full die and loose a boss i'm trolling

[winged shadow]

Whenever I use Hit, I just attack the gods and it’s a guaranteed win. As long as you don’t do it when there’s a boss you’ll be fine

[upbeat glacier]

Cant do that vs good players lol

You gotta do everything

@carmine orchid bro im loving this char. When you just one shot people lol

Gunna get s on only hit

[civic mason]

U cant rush attack npcs while in stealth as hit?

[dusty edge]

Yep. Intentional design

[dusty edge]

Unless the enemy team has like 10 brain cells and can piece together what Hit does and use AoEs around GoD to prevent any meaningful attacks

It's not easy in higher ranks when players are somewhat competent

[winged shadow]

I’m high B and have yet to lose with my strat but I’ll take your word for it

[dusty edge]

It's still the best strategy for Hit, I'm just saying it'll get harder once players figure out how to play around it

If I see some players camping the GoDs for defense then I know it won't work as well cause they probably figured me out

[upbeat glacier]

Below A is bots. Non human players.

[civic mason]

😔

That aside. Whatsvsome reccomended ways to build hit. What moves shoulf i be leveling first or with super start etc

[dusty edge]

S1>S3>Ult=S2

Start with S1 and S3, get S2 at Lv4 and Ult at Lv5. From there max out S1.

Skip any skill Lvl Up on LV7 so you can Max S1 at Lv8 instead of later

At least that's what works for me

[upbeat glacier]

Im not being offensive they are actual non human bots they add

[upbeat glacier]

S1 then s3

Learn his combo timing. Land s1 while invis then rush then hit the S2

Big dmg

[civic mason]

Whats the combo?

[upbeat glacier]

You triple stack his passive. Fear of death. Hit them with your skill 1 while invisible. Then rush. Then hit skill 2 with correct range.

[dusty edge]

And if they are a bit too stationary when trying to retreat...

S k i l l 1

[civic mason]

It stacks?

[dusty edge]

His passive? Yes.

[civic mason]

How the hecc

[dusty edge]

https://dbg-squadra.bn-ent.net/en-us/hero/0020

I mean just read I guess?

[civic mason]

K

I meant how do i effectively stack it

I cant seem to do so i guess

[sage kite]

There's not really a "stack", more like just a mark which they really had a problem with most of the game's descriptions

Damage doesn't increase per fod and the movement speed debuff just resets each hit so it just feels like a stack

Unless this is either an oversight or they forgot to implement it properly

[upbeat glacier]

Im 100 perc sure its stackable and increases in dmg

The final hit S2 always hit hard

[sage kite]

Hits during stealth hits hard

Which is why it's always encouraged to attack enemies durinf stealth once marked

[upbeat glacier]

Bro this char is so fun to perform well on.

[sage kite]

Correction: Only the movement speed debuff is stackable but it's just a short window that you'll basically never even notice

[reef dagger]

Hey, how do you play hit against 3ku?

[upbeat glacier]

3ku?

[reef dagger]

super saiyan 3 goku

[upbeat glacier]

I just play him the same vs everyone

[real vault]

Honestly, hit is pretty good

[upbeat glacier]

You are stealthed. You hit S1, then stealth rush. Then S2. You can then disengage/reingage.

[reef dagger]

cuz his kamehameha has insane range and keeps knocking me out of invis, idk if i should be just avoiding him/keeping my distance or getting in close to combo him

[real vault]

The only thing I don’t like is when he goes into his invisible mode, you can’t use rush attacks at NPCs

[reef dagger]

i kinda prefer that, so it always auto targets players over npcs for the invis attack

[upbeat glacier]

Ye

[cold agate]

annoying enough when s2 decides to target one

[reef dagger]

Fr!!!

[sage kite]

During stealth, your only options are s1/2 that's basically it because he's more character oriented

[upbeat glacier]

Pretty sure you can tweak auto aim settings. I played around with it but i just left on lowest hp

[real vault]

OHHH

That makes sense, thanks

[sage kite]

You can alleviate that with auto-aim... Or just aim it yourself atm

[real vault]

The last few days, I thought I was struggling to get my Bandai account to connect to the game, but it turns out I did it day one, so I was just worrying for nothin

[civic mason]

This is what i was cinfused about.

[upbeat glacier]

Ye holding the skill and readjusting quickly solves this usually

[reef dagger]

Would using aim assist help too?

[upbeat glacier]

I play on switch I use aim assist

[civic mason]

18 says stacks and visibly shows stacks. Hit said stacks but i couldnt find stacks anywhere on the screen

Same thing for gohans rush attack

[sage kite]

That's what I was referring to with auto-aim... But if it helps you then good ig

[reef dagger]

I use auto aim, but there's another setting called aim assist. I wanted to know the difference, cuz that one is turned off for me

I'm on mobile btw

[sage kite]

I'm on mobile too and I just manual aim

[upbeat glacier]

Oh sticky and slow. I have it on sticky. It like locks to target but you could use manual S2 is already aim bot like

Most important thing is landing the S1 in my opinion.

[reef dagger]

Actually how do you guys fight against frieza? Maybe not against frieza themselves but against his annoying *ss minions gaurding the GoD?

[finite pendant]

You do realise you can stay outside their zones, right?

[reef dagger]

No duh, and what do you do when frieza has it set up all over the GoD? Just shoot lasers chipping away at the minions health?

The pink guys range is annoying so it keeps pushing me away when I try killing it

[reef dagger]

And usually when there’s one last GoD left his minions are just sitting there camping, I’m pretty much hard countered by that and have to hope my team can get good picks in team fights

[sharp pine]

Kill his minions that's it

And hit can't really do that much

Only his 1

[sage kite]

You don't, like what we've been saying, hit is an assassin and being unpredictable, fighting against frieza that's basically 3 in 1 character (while deployed), defeats the purpose of being an assassin

It's not your job to deal with his minions, your job is to make them feel helpless by whatever means necessary

[sharp pine]

^

[sage kite]

An assassin gives them "fear of death"

[sage kite]

Uhh

[sharp pine]

If you want a character to destroy frieza's minions then ig SSJ goku is right there lol

[upbeat glacier]

Focus on helping your team

[runic viper]

What is the basic combo for hit assuming he has all his cooldowns?

[stray tulip]

Dimension Infiltration > Deathblow > Rush Attack > Vanish > Vital Point Strike

S3 > S1 > Rush Attack > Vanish > S2.

You want to be in stealth approaching enemies to hit them with Deathblow because it doesn't break your stealth, and then follow it up immediately with a Rush Attack which will be enhanced because of the stealth still.

Once your Rush Attack hits and the enemy's vision is further lowered you want to Vanish away from them and then lead in with a Vital Point Strike, which at Level 2 and 3 of the ability you should have enough range to hit them outside of their vision for the Stagger / Stun.

By the time you hit the Vital Point Strike your Dimensional Infiltration should be off cooldown again

[upbeat glacier]

Vital point strike doesn't increase in range leveling it up.

[sage kite]

Yes it does not

Only s1/3 gives the range increase

S2 gives shockwave (and shockwave range increase)

[calm needle]

Doesn't S2 not give a stun if you do it from stealth. Is S3 > S1 > S2 > Rush attack > vanish out as viable?

[stray tulip]

Ah my mistake then, I thought I saw it increase a tiny bit in range

[stray tulip]

S2 gives you a stun if you do it on an enemy who doesn't see you / hasn't discovered you.

So you can do it from stealth to get the stagger

[upbeat glacier]

Rank 2 gives aoe splash dmg. I prefer maxing s3 after s1

Im rank 7 hit battlescore from that 16min game yesterday lol

[stray tulip]

Usually I like to start out with S1 and S3, then put another point into S3 before focusing on S1

[upbeat glacier]

Ye honestly s3 max might be decent

[stray tulip]

That combo could work but it'd have to be -

S3 > S1 > S2 > Vanish > Rush Attack. Once you use S2 your stealth will break, it's only S1 specifically that doesn't break your stealth.

[calm needle]

Wouldn't the vanish be better as an escape tool? Regardless, so the stun on S2 isn't a necessity for a dangerous Hit?

[stray tulip]

This combo is assuming you're going all in for a full fast rotation. You could save your Vanish for an escape since you could possibly walk out of the enemy's reduced vision, but the Vanish is assuming that they'll be trying to keep you in their vision so you use it for a quick back-up before going in with the rush attack.

But usually what should be the case is that by the time you Rush Attack in you should have your Dimensional Infiltration off of cooldown as your true escape tool as you've proc'ed Fear of Death multiple times and reduced it's cooldown enough that it should either be ready or be like a second off from being ready by the time the combo finishes.

As for the stun I'd say it kinda depends on the situation and something you use on the fly.

Do you think you could do more damage with the stun or get out safely with it over a Rush Attack? Use it.

Do you think the stun could allow a teammate to collapse on the guy you're attacking? Use it.

Is the enemy using / charging some kind of long attack? Stun for the interrupt.

[calm needle]

Good to know thanks!

[runic viper]

So I can start combo with infiltration or being in grass/clouds?

[calm needle]

Infiltration is easier, but grass and clouds will hide you if the enemy is close enough and they don't touch you otherwise they'll break your stealth.

[burnt surge]

To add to this
Since enemy will have debuff on after rush attack the S2 while cast outside of enemy vision will do like twice the DMG
Not sure why but tested on training mode and it work during this condition

You can either use vanish to get out of enemy since his new vision during debuff is similar to vanish range and then come back with S2

It will stagger the enemy and do double the DMG
Stagger since enemy has small vision due to debuff

And also hella confuse enemy and will make you look like a PRO

[stray tulip]

Part of Hit's passive is that enemies under Fear of Death take additional damage on top of the Movement Slow and reduced vision

[dusty edge]

you can also mitigate potential dangers by running LBJ for double vanish

[burnt surge]

But only from his S2 he gets more dmg on debuffed enemy

And its quite noticable change

[dusty edge]

Currently I like to run Snowball-Barrier-LBJ but PtD instead of barrier seems to work well for a lot of people as well for a more offensive version

[stray tulip]

Fear of Death

Apply a debuff that shrinks the target's field of view. Fear of Death will be applied when attacking an enemy hero who has not spotted you.
Stacking Fear of Death will apply Movement Speed Down to the enemy and they will receive additional DMG, while the cooldown for Dimensional Infiltration will also be shortened.

I'll take your word for it just the description doesn't mention S2 specifically

[burnt surge]

652 level 1 S2 on enemy without fear of death
1730 with fear of death AND CASTED OUTSIDE ENEMY VISION
Rush attack and skill 1 not affected

The passive is badly written, should be written there its for S2 only

[stray tulip]

Might be the typical Bandai translation machine not translating properly

They have a bad habit of using machine translations that don't tell the whole story

[burnt surge]

To summarize only way you get more damage from the passive is by casting S2 while enemy has the debuff and you cast it outside enemy vision

Its very situational and needs practice
Easy to hit enemy like that on training but during fight with all the heat...
For sure his ult helps with that tho

[sage kite]

It's his passive...

[sage kite]

Every attack gets an additional damage

[sage kite]

"They will receive additional damage"

[burnt surge]

Its not

Use training mode

Its so easy to find out its not

[burnt surge]

It even might be written good
I mean "they will recieve additional damage" from the rush attack which apply the debuff

So not a lie for sure

Also the last sentence of the skill2 description in english version is not ended with the dot, maybe there was meant to be info about casting it outside the vision with the debuff applied for more dmg but the translation went bad

[sage kite]

I assure you it is, we've talked abt this before y'all brought it up

They don't explain the things that well but it's fod giving you additional damage if you attack enemies while they're "marked" with fod

There's a reason why you can only deal that damage while the enemy has fod mark

[burnt surge]

But i get same DMG numbers with rush attack and skill 1
I see them on the screen
They are the same
So what's going on

[sage kite]

Man I'm gonna record smth that I've done it again and again smh

These new hit players

[burnt surge]

Wish i could post screens here

[sage kite]

I am posting one

[burnt surge]

What i learnt that indeed S1 is doing more dmg on enemies with the debuff but same as everything has to be casted outside of enemy vision

So bascially hit has no point to use regular attack

Well, thanks @sage kite ❤️

[sage kite]

No problem, it's our duty to teach more players about hit so if y'all have any questions, just ask those who are frequently here like me

[sage kite]

Outside of farming, yes or securing kills when at close range/already used enhanced basic attack

[carmine orchid]

It should be: enemy gets bonus damage and ms down WHEN YOU hit them with spells from out of vision. Also with auto from stealth tho

[stray tulip]

It should be but like a lot of ability descriptions it doesn't say that

Honestly its kind of embarrassing how little information everything has

[sage kite]

If we're being technical, the "stacking" mechanic is there but needs more explanation

Basically:
1st stack is the fod(movement speed and fov debuff) while the 2nd stack is the additional damage

This should be pinned or smth the next time someone asks abt hit's passive

[burnt surge]

@astral panther pin please

Mhm
I tagged bot

Ggwp

[sage kite]

We've just conclude this before as a mark because we didn't have anything to make it like a "stacking" mechanic and instead refreshing the mark but then I just racked up my brains and this should be the only solution/explanation to it

[burnt surge]

Refreshing the mark before it expires is good statement

[sage kite]

Uhh that's just our hypothesis at the time

[upbeat glacier]

3 red cards seem the best tbh on hit

Your job is to kill people

[sage kite]

I mean if your team is snowballing sure

[upbeat glacier]

Double vanish is good too

I like reds

[sage kite]

That's what they should be picking...

[upbeat glacier]

@carmine orchid what you think about 3 red

[stray tulip]

Personally I like the GoD card for some backdoor shenanigans if I think a match isn't gonna go well fighting-wise.

[sage kite]

He'll say/think what I say/think ngl

[upbeat glacier]

Thats probably good lol when you get some feeding underleveled people

But usually you dont die at start when you pick first card

Unless its cell jr and you lose it straight away ig

[sage kite]

That's what tech like frieza/hit should be doing at the side yes

They can be independent but with limits ofc (now that we have ssj3 goku just tp-ing out of nowhere)

[upbeat glacier]

How much dmg do you lose going all 3 blue? Or 2 blue 1 green

[stray tulip]

I do think SS3 Goku shouldn't be able to IT based on GoD vision alone

[upbeat glacier]

Snowball is what 26% dmg whats the base dmg 1 red gives you?

[burnt surge]

286k dmg with hit
Stil not sure how to make 500k for portrait milestone lol

[upbeat glacier]

286k score or dmg

[burnt surge]

And that's with 160k performance at the end

[burnt surge]

Dmg

[upbeat glacier]

Oh lol

Nice

[burnt surge]

That's thanks to tips of Nikoru
Was missing that knowledge

Now its snowball

[sage kite]

If you can consistently proc fod with everything in his kit, you won't even need a red card

[stray tulip]

I think someone said before snowball at max stacks was like 15% increase

[burnt surge]

Its 24% at max

[upbeat glacier]

Pretty sure someonr said its 26

[stray tulip]

That sounds more believable

[upbeat glacier]

Do you get dmg with 1 stack?

Or only 4

[sage kite]

The upgrade is per stack

[stray tulip]

Pretty sure its damage per stack going up to a max

[upbeat glacier]

6, 12, 18, 24?

[stray tulip]

IMHO I think they should increase the stacks but spread the damage out more lowly between each stack, but thats veering off more into biased opinions on game balance

[sage kite]

Once y'all have reached a certain level with hit, you're either gonna use only 1 red card or all blue

That's how good he is at supporting and dealing damage to an enemy

[coarse cairn]

All characters must be free, remove the gacha system through capsules and make all those items and skins purchasable, this would please players much more, if all the characters that appear are only through gems I fear the game will lose many players

[carmine orchid]

15% excluding any card effects, 5% for each card but you get 15% cd reduction

Hit Is not a full Blue card guy tho

[lyric anchor]

Im tryna learn hit rn

Do I just camp bushes?

[tired hemlock]

how do you combo with hit?

[sage kite]

Ig you must be lost because this is a hit channel

[tired hemlock]

basically 3 1 2 is the correct order ?

[sage kite]

3-1-ra-vanish back-2, yea

If you're already in cloud/bush, 1-ra-3-2

[upbeat glacier]

We only play hit here 🤣

[lyric anchor]

Whats ra?

[upbeat glacier]

Rush attack

[viral cave]

Getting mvp on hit by sneaking on all the gods hits different

Nah i'd gekishin high

[upbeat glacier]

Man I cant wait to get home and play hit on more than 30fps and without some zog internet lol

[slim flint]

Hits ability to swap from solid stealth melee to “oh shi-Hit my teams throwing back door time”
Is so nice

[stray tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9LdJyuWS9g

Is nice

[proven lichen]

Sorry if it was asked already, but what are Hit's usual card setup?

I would expect Strategic Escape and backstab to be among them, but what about the second card?

I think going all blue increases running speed right?

[sharp pine]

I like to go all dmg then the third card being the double vanish card

[potent silo]

What's the purple circle underneath enemies? is that their detection radius?

[plucky temple]

I'm pretty sure it's "Fear of Death" being applied to that enemy

[keen socket]

Is there even a detection radius? Not even the towers can see him, unlike 99% of MOBAs towers

Dude ain't Natalia or Prince of Lanling

[stray tulip]

The large purple circle around enemies is their vision radius where they can see you.

[keen socket]

Hmm I'll test tomorrow, just unlocked him today

[stray tulip]

Basically the way it works is that if you're not stealthed or hidden in a bush or cloud they can see you if you're in that radius, and you won't get your bonus effects like the lunging Rush Attack or the Stagger on your S2 nor proc Fear of Death.

Once you get Fear of Death on them their vision reduces to a much smaller radius which lets you back out of their vision to get the bonus effects from attacking when undetected / unseen.

[keen socket]

Yeah yeah i understand the whole thing. I was interested in how he's detected
Like the prince of Lanling from Honor of Kings that makes a !!!! symbol appear in the top of an enemy's head telling you he's near
No such thing here

Or him being invisible to TOWERS xd

[stray tulip]

Yeah currently the only counter to Hit's stealth is the Shu helper who can see him when he enters and exits his radius

Or at least the only actual counter that isn't just blind-firing where you think he'll be

[sage kite]

Krillin passive, dodoria (there's some coding that makes him detect hit compared to zarbon, aside from the situation where you're doing gek burst), goku passive, yea

[stray tulip]

I assume with Dodoria it's probably some simple coding where anything hostile in his radius causes him to attack.

[sage kite]

Yea that

Doesn't matter if it's stealth or hidden in bush/clouds

[silver valley]

maybe its a skill diff but whenever im on hit it just feels like all my teammates just

they're horrible and hit cant make up for the gap

[sage kite]

Then it's a team issue not a character issue

[silver valley]

im saying it in the way of asking is there something im missing as hit

should the character be able to pick up the slack left from the team

or what

[sage kite]

Technical characters aren't just gonna carry the team...

If they're slacking, try to fight in another way like taking down GoDs but if that doesn't work, then it's basically ggs

If you can still support them for the kills in any way, then go for it ig

[silver valley]

whats the general like strategy to max out hit's damage

when he's going for someone

[tired hemlock]

hit is weird, it's hard to play effectively 🙁

[silver valley]

combo iug

[carmine orchid]

Max damage combo should be S1 from stealth>RA>vanish/move out>S2

Then S3 Is reset, you can keep base rushes After s2, reset the combo or Just run away. His job Is not to 100 0 but you setup for a lethal. Ultimate on extended people Is 100 0 guaranteed most of the time

[sage kite]

Hit is an expert level technical character, you don't fight like goku, you move like an assassin, you only show up when you need to and giving the enemies a fear of death

[tired hemlock]

What is weird is he is a mix between utility and assassin, he doesnt have assassin damage, trunks feels more like assassin to me

But I suck with Hit, that could explain why, I never see one being top damage though

Hit feels like a mosquito, highly annoying but low damage

[sage kite]

Which is why he's a technical character...

You don't solo kill 1v4 or smth just because his lore is an assassin

[tired hemlock]

Which is a disappointment let's be honest 🙁

He's the textbook assassin of DB

[sage kite]

If we're taking that mentality about db characters in a MOBA setting, then everybody should be damage then

[tired hemlock]

Well, not dende!

[sage kite]

Is dende a playable character?

[tired hemlock]

No but could be

I'm just saying not making hit a pure damage dealer is a waste

because not many db characters are assassins

supports could be whis, bulma or mai, they're not in the game but could be in the future

[sage kite]

Don't try to use those types of argument, it's just making you look desperate or smth

Just play a modded db moba or smth like fighterz where everyone can just solo damage and stuff

We're just satisfied with hit being a technical character

[tired hemlock]

why so closed to critic

it's unhealthy

[sage kite]

If you don't like his playstyle, just pick another character

[tired hemlock]

just an opinion lol

[sage kite]

An opinion that's been spammed in this thread for many times "lol"

[tired hemlock]

Do you really think I read the whole thread?

Why so salty?

And if it was spammed, there is a good reason

Sigh

[sage kite]

Now I'm the salty one? Okay

[tired hemlock]

Well yeah you are passive agressive while I'm just voicing an opinion

Hit could have been the Zed of this game, is just what I say

[sage kite]

I wasn't even aggressive till you kept insisting?

[tired hemlock]

Bro

Let's stop talking

[sage kite]

That's your decision, I'm gonna do mine, I'm gonna keep talking here to assists other players into playing hit like the others in this thread

[tired hemlock]

Reread yourself and reflect on how you are agressive to people

[sage kite]

Uhh no... Your denial is what you should reflect on

Because you're lucky I'm the only one here because everybody will recommend 100% to pick cell or 18 once you reach that level unless you're committed to playing a technical character like hit

Bro thought he slick mentioning dende

[carmine orchid]

i mean you can't take a guy with a cornstar picture seriously

[tired hemlock]

sure, if dismissing someone entirely for a profile picture isn't pure stupidity I don't know what is, weird gatekeeper mentality too

[sage kite]

Bro only said that at the end when we've been counterargumenting the right way

You don't know how to accept things as they are right now

[carmine orchid]

is just my opinion, i didn't call you stupid and i just enjoy the drama, and definitely i'm not stupid ahaha

btw any tech is an assassin per se, A17 can be super greedy with triple dash stun or double balls, krillin can chase you while spamming bombs at your position

[sage kite]

Like mitzuji said "opinion" amirite

[carmine orchid]

nor HIT could be a dps, he doesn't do their level of damage nor is made to be in the fight, i don't see the chance to have support + hit beeing viable against dps tank

immagine HIT with Goku skill values bruh

[sage kite]

Those opinions have been day 1 opinions like we already know the complaints and we don't even care about it anymore

It's either git gud in learning him or we'll be laughing at you for wasting your tier 4(?) character selection into someone you won't even play and try to learn but rather COMPLAIN THE WAY THEY ARE RN

[carmine orchid]

hit is probably the best designed character in the game right now so they could make it yellow piss new role "Donut Maker", doesn't matter you still can play it and the gameplay is fire

nor every character is made for everyone and this is true in every game

[sage kite]

Considering bro's argument, ofc "Hit's an assassin, I want him to one-shot people and not get hit because I'm a good "Damage" character and player"

[carmine orchid]

if you can't oneshot people past level 5 it's a skill issue on his side tho

[sage kite]

He can't... But the concept of making them helpless to death is def there

[carmine orchid]

i mean if they use vanish and they are past middle screen be sure you are getting ulted into oblivion

[sage kite]

[stray tulip]

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. I think Hit in general has a certain design flaw when it comes to fighting him given his near permanent invisibility at a certain point in the match

Like it's fun to play sure but its frustrating as heck to play against, and the fact that GoDs don't detect him through invisibility is just poor design

Any other stealth character in MOBAs always has something akin to that where their stealth gets broken / ruined within an objective's range outside of neutral objectives

[carmine orchid]

ye but you need to abuse his level 3, what i meant is how he feels special and very different to play as. But if you are behind and they have a good hit your are gonna suffer

but: ranged rush attacks will lock onto him if he uses S3 from melee range, meaning no more stealth. Krillin """hard counters"""" him, because mark makes him visible for a long time. If he stealths from when in combat, it is not instant but needs like 0.5/1s to activate, meaning any big aoe dash in that direction will reveal him. Also, exploding npc mod remobes his stealth. Search assist remove Hit from an objective location entirely, can't ult can't stealth can't use bushes, that is actually a design flaw imo.

[keen socket]

Remember, the objective is to take towers, not do a killing fiesta
You could be 20/0 and still lose because one or two characters from the enemy team is taking your towers

As much as i would love for Hit to be the Prince of Lanling from HOK or Natalia from ML, he ain't so one has to adapt to this game's meta

[reef dagger]

How does hit’s fear of death proc on enemies? It’s always when you’re out of range from enemy sight right? Meaning you’re either in a bush/cloud or in stealth and you land an attack… so does it proc if you’re outside of range and land a “cross-map” lvl 3 laser too?

Even without being in stealth or a bush/cloud?

[stray tulip]

So long as you aren't visible to them it can proc, so if you hit them from outside their vision radius it'll count for Fear of Death

Even if you aren't actually hidden or stealthed

[carmine orchid]

you can snipe them with maxed S1 from space (is not full map but like 1 and an half screen) and still proc FoD. That's why i can't play him on controller anymore because i need to aim

[reef dagger]

but do i need to be stealthed from all players on the enemy team too?

[carmine orchid]

yes

[reef dagger]

ohhhhh, that explains it

[carmine orchid]

as you get vision by your team, so do they

[reef dagger]

So frieza's lil minions also get increased vision too, but i know the circle of vision they have seems to be quite buggy. Like frieza calls back their minions and the circle remains, does that "faded" circle influence detection?

[sage kite]

No, that's just a visual glitch on the game's side, it doesn't really affect you

If it does, then we'll just have to report it as a bug but afaic, it doesn't reveal you

[keen socket]

So from further testing things in training, yeah, best use for hit is to do the stealth, s1, basic attack, s2, get out unless enemy is about to die

As for cards, i guess it's a mixture of either 3 reds or 2 reds and the double dash blue card as an emergency, maybe 🤔
Will have to test more

Also, have yet to see which order to level up skills
I REALLY HATE that the game doesn't tell you what each level up skill does IN NUMBERS... so annoying

[carmine orchid]

S1 S3 S2 ult when possible

skip level 7 point so you get max ray at level 8 plus ult

s2 upgrade is meh, s3 upgrade is nearly doubling duration x level, 3 cards is too much you let the dps do the dps, is normally double vanish for either engage potential and escape, you also use vanishes in optimized combos so at least you have 1 to escape. Also, solid barrier on him is actually broken

you do your stuff and then they may scratch you

[hasty rose]

Snowball/lightning
prepare to die
Backstab/limit breaking jump
Been working for me

[barren moon]

I think I shoulda picked cell. I'm not good enough at video games for this hero 💀

[jaunty quest]

Is backstab the better 3rd card or LBJ

[carmine orchid]

LBJ

by far

backstab works, but is like 9/10 times LBJ

[winter oak]

#KILLALLHITS

[jaunty quest]

So is it possible to run full blue divine cards?

[sage kite]

Yes, I've been there before and still went mvp (the match was in A rank), not to brag it but I'm just saying you can

His whole damage is in fod and it has enough damage/utility that you don't need a red card

I could also show proof if you need one (although it's hard to believe it's an A rank match)

[jaunty quest]

What did u use?

[sage kite]

Gek high, art of decoy, and lbj

[jaunty quest]

What was ur upgrade priority?

[sage kite]

But you can run def cards too

[keen socket]

I second the use of gekishin high!

[jaunty quest]

3>1>3?

[jaunty quest]

So if I don’t want art of decoy. I could use solid barrier?

[sage kite]

That's my old way, but not anymore, prioritize 1>3>2

[sage kite]

Yes yes, like I said his damage is already good if you abuse fod that you can just not choose any red card

[jaunty quest]

Is there a dps that’s similar or close gamestyle to hit?

[keen socket]

Hit is very unique in that regard, luckily, otherwise playing support babysitting gets boring

Just pray your teammate knows Hit is not meant for prolonged fights. Poke and away you go

[gritty stag]

Whats obscured vission on the ult? Is it just those after images of hit running around?

[keen socket]

Iirc, obscured vision reduces the enemy's vision to a very small area (which means you can trigger fear of death if i'm correct if done a few steps away from the enemy)
The afterimages of hit are merely visual effects from the ultimate, mimicking the anime and stuff

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong

[sage kite]

Obscured vision is the reduction of the field of vision in general, in hit's case, it's caused by his passive Fear of Death, on the hit player's side, you'll see a purple circle around the enemy and that indicates how far they can see in their perspective, mark them with your Fear of Death passive and you will see that purple circle shrink

On the player side that's fighting against hit, you will (afaik) not see the after images of hit and are just visual representation on the hit player's side of the game

[polar flame]

your right and ive just learned its best to use it far away otherwise the opponent will just spot you when you pop it

[gritty stag]

Ic

[jaunty quest]

What’s the hit combo?

S3 to s1 to s2?

[sage kite]

"Obscure vision" is not specific to Hit, characters like krillin can apply obscure vision too

[sage kite]

3-1-ra-2

[jaunty quest]

Ah I see

I don’t get how to combo with the ult tho

I don’t understand it. So I only use it as an escape

[sage kite]

You don't, it's a setup not a combo-extender.

The ult is a versatile skill and you can use it in various ways, may it be defensive or offensive

Unless you mean after using the ult

[gritty stag]

Yea i was just confused since description for his ult says fear of death, obscure so i thought whats the difference

[sage kite]

Unless you mean after the ult, then you can freely choose what combo to do instead of what I think you're implying on how to combo into his ult after the combo I just said above

[rustic creek]

i dont think im playing this character right

ive just been using s3 out of sight and then s2 to stun

and then just running away

but nothing really happens

[sage kite]

If you want to commit playing hit, then you're in the right place

[jaunty quest]

What to do during the ult

[keen socket]

S3, s1, rush attack, s2

[sage kite]

I just said that

[keen socket]

We'll have to spam it 😂

[rustic creek]

oh right cause s1 keeps your s3 buffs

ok

[keen socket]

Also, no need if in bush though that's a wee bit harder to do

[rustic creek]

that makes sense

[sage kite]

Like I said, it's a versatile ult

You can do anything you want with the situation

You want to run away and make them confused on where to hit? Sure. You want to attack them from all sides? Sure. You want to steal towers while they're confused? Sure.

It's a versatile ult

[rustic creek]

he seems pretty teammate reliant, right?

[gritty stag]

Dont you have to use s2 after s3 or from a bush tho? After rush stagger doesn't work right? Being discovered already

[gritty stag]

Nah seems to be doing his own thing to me

[keen socket]

The only thing you need to rely on from your teammate is them knowing hit can't jump on people and kill 100% to 🪦

[sage kite]

If you do it outside of fov/the purple circle, it's still counted as being in stealth and triggers the stagger

[sage kite]

It seems we have miscalculated, so 3-1-ra-vanish back-2

[rustic creek]

how would you pull off s2 from that far away

[sage kite]

May I present to you all about his combo video?

@rustic creek @gritty stag

[gritty stag]

Ok that makes sense now cuz u dont lose stealth from s1

[gritty stag]

Sure

[sage kite]

Just be sure to check #✨game-moments after being pinged there

[gritty stag]

You can check it out in training

[sage kite]

I hoped that video gives another insight on his combo routes

Pull up your questions here instead if y'all have one
@gritty stag @rustic creek

[rustic creek]

can you drop that vid at like .5x speed

[gritty stag]

Yea so u used s3 ra s1 dodge s2 ra ig

To get s3 cooldown huh

[sage kite]

Yes yes, but in a realistic match, you won't be able to land that

So I'm just planting the idea of abusing the fod passive because as you can see, even with just a blue card at lvl5, the damage is pretty good already

[sage kite]

I used 3-ra-vanish back(to be outside of fov range/the purple circle)-1-2-ult (it's situational I just flexed on them but I don't recommend unless the enemy is less than half hp)-whatever skill or attacks you want

If y'all want again, I could show an in-game footage about an early aggressive hit?
@gritty stag @rustic creek

[gritty stag]

Sure

Ill be using snow ball, slayer and back step probably as ive seen

[keen socket]

(gekishin high 😘)

[rustic creek]

it’s extremely late for me so i won’t respond but yeah absolutely i’d like to see in game footage

[gritty stag]

Aight ill just go rank up with hit since i dont use tech at all still at e rank

[rustic creek]

yeah i just cant comprehend a gameplan here

feels like i always get 2v1ed, but that's most likely just overextending

[keen socket]

Hit can't play babysitter like the other techs, hence the difficulty
It's mostly a hit and run thing

The 2nd issue is when the 1st tower falls

That's when you need to start deciding what to do all over the map

You play gohan and all you do is stick around, like Buu. There's 0 decision making in here

[rustic creek]

ugh i feel like im always underleveled

[winter oak]

I feel like it deserves to be ERASED FROM THE GAME

[sage kite]

You don't want to just wait for the enemy to pop up, just farm then assess if you need to watch from the bush or keep farming

[lilac heart]

whats the optimal support/helper for Hit?

[stray tulip]

I've been using Shu myself but Farmer would probably be helpful too. I just think Shu's whole thing being a more "instant" effect rather than Farmer having to shoot people helps Hit a bit more often

[lilac heart]

this is what i thought as well, but wanted some other input - thanks

[sage kite]

Personally I use shu just because his mark duration is insane even if it's not applying damage like farmer, it also helps me offensively and defensively

Offensively when I want to know if someone's hiding near a boss location because those marked seconds means everything when it comes to boss takedown, as a hit, I can just annoy them to either low hp or death and help my team take the boss and other objectives

Defensively when we're defending a tower but we don't know where they're coming from so I place them in the most likely place they'll go so we'll know who's going to the top/bottom lane

[pastel forge]

Does Hit have visual effect when he's moving towards you in stealth state?

Sometimes I see his shadow on my point of view but idk whether it's when he's using his skill or passive trigger

[sage kite]

No, you only see a split second of his last afterimage after using his skill 3 (the white hit thingy)

Because if you can see hit near you, that defeats his stealth state purpose

[clear sedge]

What are the best Divine cards to use on hit?

[sage kite]

Considering you play damage, snowball, prepare to die, backstab

[clear sedge]

What about skill upgrade? I usually go 3,1,2

[sage kite]

Considering you're playing damage yet again, 1-3-2

You need that long range damage from s1

Then a decent uptime on 3

Leave 2 because even at lvl 1, it's alr doing its job

[cursive orchid]

i like snowball solid barrier lbj

[clear sedge]

I play him as a support just to assist the dps on the lane with me

[sage kite]

Then you should be using gek high/strat escape, prepare to die/steel skin(?)/solid barrier, then lbj

If the enemy lineup is composed of pretty tanky chars, you can giant slayer instead but leave the full hp engagement to your dps and focus on cleanup

[upbeat glacier]

Is stragetic escape good for doing combos? Did anyone try it for hitting his skill 2?

Some idea I had

[sage kite]

No... It's exactly what you need as a tech, an escape boost

[manic crest]

Just Got hit and went 12/1/0 as my first game as him.

The donuts have been made.

[sage kite]

Donut nation rise up

[clear sedge]

I usually go for the stun from afar with skill 1 while in stealth mode and i go for skill 2 when they trying to run

My only problem is his ult i don't know how to use it properly

[sage kite]

I'm confused, how are you stunning with s1?

Or are you using that as a setup for s2 by marking them with fod using s1 from afar?

The wording confused me

[clear sedge]

Yeah

It was a mistypo on my end sorry