Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla

[pallid void]

brooooo saaaame

[smoky tangle]

Perfect Cell really isn't all that, I thought he'd be the cats meow but I really don't struggle with him that bad

[pallid void]

yea fr

his regen is just something that prolongs the inevitable

[tiny breach]

They should make it faster

[pallid void]

even when he ults and traps me, idrc

yea his regen needs a buff imo, doesn't feel like a regen

[tiny breach]

I'm gonna flex and bust out of here

[pallid void]

lmaooo same

[tiny breach]

Minor inconvenience

[pallid void]

only annoying this is his grab but i've just learnt to not run away and fight him head on

[pallid void]

i do hate fighting a a full blown defensive cooler though

[tiny breach]

I hate fighting Goku with a baby

Wait hold on

I meant with baby infecting him

[pallid void]

loool it sounds wrong but we gotchu

baby is a tech disguised as a tank

a lot more running away and distance than actually puhsing forward and tanking most of the damage

[wary rover]

better job as a healer than buu lowkey

[pallid void]

it's insane lol

[wary rover]

takes him like 3 seconds to get back to full hp and can heal his teammate while attacking

[main gull]

Can I get some opinions or suggestions on a build I’m thinking. It’s snowball, steel skin and wicked warrior/pursuer.

[upper adder]

valid build

but I like to use the defensive snowball for the first card

[grim vortex]

I use build up, steel skin, pursuer

[plucky drum]

I should look at the card names to give my exact build, but I start with the 10x defense and then build damage the rest of the game

[smoky tangle]

It's diabolical

[pallid void]

do any of you guys get jumped heavy when playing caulifla

like the whole team is there to shred your health while your alone

[magic loom]

happens when you play a baddie

[pallid void]

might be on to something

[pallid void]

i think in higher rank, having only build up just ain't enough defensively

and while kills are good, i need to focus more on them running away than getting killed

[pallid void]

dps is mainly there to kill, so i should be denying them exp from cell jrs on their side to force them to farm in the distance

[lunar coral]

So uh

Which cards should I use

And what should I max out first

And what combo

[pallid void]

For cards, build up is the go to for the first one

You can choose to go more defensive with one of the 2 defensive cards, or choose one of the 2 offensive cards if you wanna be more of a hybrid of an dps and a tank

And then you can go defensive again with maybe the angel card, give yourself some survivabiltiy with limit breaking jump or get more aggressive with wicked warrior

From my experience, I feel like you can excel greatly with any playstyle you choose, even with an aggressive build that I used like build up/giant slayer/wicked warrior to shred through dps and tanks in the bottom lane for from e-b rank.

For A-S rank, ya wanna focus having at least 2 defensive cards, and then you can choose limit breaking jump, another defensive card or an offensive card since you’re gonna be dealing with a lotta burst damage characters AND getting jumped more frequently

[pallid void]

You can do any tbh, I go for s2 for offence and to dive enemies trying to flee, especially when they are low. S1 is also good for constantly applying provoke to soak up all the damage to help protect your teammate

S3 is great for stalling, also helps to block off enemies from exp, bosses, escaping and good to help yourself escape too.

Cauli is very versatile, it all depends on how you wanna play as a her or even as a tank

[lunar coral]

Whats the defensive card build

For her

Just tell me names

[upper adder]

build up, steel skin and guardian angel if you want to go full defense

but I go with wicked warrior

[upper adder]

which move you would recommend for super start or what it’s called

btw which rank do you have with tank?

[pallid void]

rn i'm a2 for tank

sometimes i go for s2 since my plastyle is more aggressive but recently i've been doing s3 here and there to have that defensive edge

and by the tme she's level 4, her s1 is at least level 1 and her s2 is level 2

so i can still be offensive but also very defensive, her s3 will also be helpful for securing kais

[upper adder]

alright

i‘m thinking about maining tanks because my friends started to play dps. Can you recommend me other tanks except caulifla?

[pastel otter]

Cooler is the broken tank right now. Cell is strong too

[upper adder]

yeah I know I got traumatized by him in some of my matches

but the other tanks don’t seem that fun

[pallid void]

yea we should get new tanks by season 2

i do gotta ask for my veteran caulifla players

what are the best build for team fights, cause i be getting shreded there, even when i;m with other player. Is it just to go for full defensive?

[light canyon]

Lowk I go 2 def cards like build up and steel skin and js depending on how the fight goes I’ll go ahead and take wicked warrior

Most of the time when I’m playing with a friend I’d use gradian angel as my last card js cause he using kale

[proud rain]

ive been finding a lot of success with roshi, prepare to die and limit breaking card combo

[pallid void]

yea i've been doing the same as of late

it's helped a lot more for most dps cahracters with high burst damage until I run until the main culprit ssj goku

he's just stupid regardless of even picking 3 defensive cards

[pallid void]

used to go witht that but rn i'm going for more defense since her damage is suprisingly still very good without any offensive card and better surviving longer with team fights.

[proud rain]

I think only way mine falls off is if it goes way too late game

[pallid void]

yea way too late game is very dangerous lmao, it's safer to roam around when there are less enemites on the battlefield waiting to respawn.

[proud rain]

At that point

Switching to shield and anything that allows you to try to score and then run away

Is better

Teamfights are too messy and Caulifla isnt exactly the best teamfight nor point defender

Like cooler or cell are with their huge aoes

[pallid void]

i genuinely think build up, barrier and limit breaking jump is way better for her

cause like the full defensive build is great but it's not enough int eam fights, especially with ssj goku

[light canyon]

Hate going up against double goku

[smoky tangle]

For sure, I will always go full tank as well if they are playing a squishier tank. I.e. baby and zamasu.

[smoky tangle]

Makes me want to just give up half the time lol

[pallid void]

Saaaame it’s so annoying

[light canyon]

Double kame wave is to powerful

[pallid void]

I hate when games just have those metamancers that plays what’s “best”

[pallid void]

It’s so stupid

Like at ssj3 is more approachable on his own, but ssj can just do insane burst damage in a split second

[light canyon]

Lucky I don’t think a lot of people use that duo

I’ve only gone against it twice now

The main problem is js ssj goku burst dng

[pallid void]

Mhm

[pallid void]

I’ve been getting it a lot more in a2 as tank than in a3 or 4

And on the topic of ssj, he really needs to be toned down either when gotenks releases or at least by next season cause this is just insane

[light canyon]

Feel like they’d give gotenks some type of stun like dabura but it’s his super galactic donut thing

Plus he’d js give off debuffs

[pallid void]

Yea he’s deffo gonna doing a lotta debuffing

Can see him applying movement speed down a lot

Even his ult could be a problem, since it also acts like a warping vortex

[pallid void]

Also same here

And I hate when my teammates refuse to forfeit when it’s already a losing game

The enemy teams can destroy all our pillars while they still have all 4 up and 3 bosses taken from us and 2 levels ahead and our teammates will think we have a chance

[light canyon]

Debuff ssj goku more kale buffs pls

[smoky tangle]

Okay okay... Kale doesn't need any buffs...

She's carried me too b2 alone

[smoky tangle]

It's because it's reliable. Goku is always going to get you kills and success. Unless you don't know the difference between up and down, but even then you'll have a good chance just pressing random buttons using nameku.

[pallid void]

He’s literally the most brain dead character in my opinion icl

He’s actually that one mk meme “random bs go” lmao cause you can just throw random shi and still clutch somehow

[smoky tangle]

Literally

The character plays himself

A lot of db games are like that tbh

even the card game bruh, the cell and kid buu decks play like that rn

adds to the dragon ball charm

[pallid void]

looking to try out build up, solid barrier and either backstab or limit breaking jump on cauli

[minor dew]

I tried out build up and solid barrier and limit breaking jump and it worked out rlly well
(At the exception of me always getting jumped by the entire enemy team when im alone )

[pallid void]

Great, I’m not alone

Glad to know others also get jumped when isolated, it sucks for sure

[minor dew]

Fr

[light canyon]

Omg they actually debuffing ssj goku

[smoky tangle]

always.

[pallid void]

i'm so glad this is the case, i'm tired of him just moving crazy for nothing

[smoky tangle]

THANK YOU DRAGON BALL DIETIES FOR LISTENING TO OUR PRAYERS! 🙏

TEARS.

Also who's hyped for emotes

[light canyon]

kale buffs

:0

[smoky tangle]

did I miss that?!?!?

[marsh seal]

Caulifla players, how do I get away from you?

[smoky tangle]

rng

[marsh seal]

ok🥀

I swear it feels impossible sometimes

perma taunts you like crazy

[pallid void]

ssj goku is the only person i really fear in a 1v1

ig also dabura cause of his stun

one thign i should try out is build up, art of decoy and defensive step

[smoky tangle]

Same but Dabura is only scary if he's climbing and it's late game

I don't fear him on his own TBH

[proud rain]

god damn

those buu buffs

[upper adder]

does anyone have any tips overall? and i’m running defensive snowball, steel skin and wicked warrior but i‘m losing a lot. it’s probably because of me and not my build but idk

man it’s so frustrating to get jumped by goku and cooler

[pallid void]

gootta have at least 2 defensive cards ngl

i tried to go with build up, giant slayer and wicked wariror but it was just not it

[upper adder]

yeah I accidentally used that one in one round and I got completely destroyed

I just hate playing against these high damage chars like kale and goku

[pallid void]

Me 2 man

I’m just glad that at least Goku got some adjustments, so it’s a step into the right direction at least

[true bridge]

Is it just me or is her skill 3 a massive liability if it isnt max the fact it animation locks you in place kinda defeats the point of the pushback and move speed bonus no? also I love characters like trunks or goku using slams to hit me through the shield good fun.

[pallid void]

yea it's very important to get that maxed, i should probably get that maxed before her ult

or even before her s1

[upper adder]

btw what’s your level up order overall? I sometimes forget to lvl up my ult and lvl up skill 1 first and have to play with a useless ult

[pallid void]

i think it's fine tbh since, while her ult can still get kills and help secure major exp, it's mainly used for mobility and escaping early game

but i prioritise her s2 the most, i am also gonna try and level them all up evenly since her s3 is just as important to help with surviving better

especially during late game when she's very prone to getting jumped

[upper adder]

yeah true and ty

i’m not using her ult much anyways so i’m fine with sticking to her bad ult for now

[pallid void]

tbf, if you do have snowball on then it's way better

ofc not on its own but during a team fight it can help

just lost a match but i'm pretty content, it was a really close and good game

[upper adder]

yeah but I don’t really like snowball

[pallid void]

valid tbh, i only was confident with snowball cause we were able to take control of the lane at the start

[upper adder]

it’s nice to hear I think the same but i’m just frustrated after losing like 3-5 in a row because of goku, kale etc

but i’m tilted when I lose much against these characters tbh

[pallid void]

in other scenarios, i'd say the best dps card to go for are one of the slot 2 cards of oyur chouce

build up and defensive step is good

[pallid void]

this is annoying though

ig that's why i;m also not that mad, the enemy team had trunks and gammas while we had ssj3 and daima

even though ssj3 is annoying with double goku meta, he's fair to deal with outside that team

[upper adder]

i’m an defensive snowball fan

[pallid void]

so it wasn't just stupid and ez burst damage

[pallid void]

i am too after today, tried it with cooler and cauli

it was amazing

[wary rover]

I prefer snowball on tanks more than I do attackers personally since I think they can stay alive better

though depends on the tank

[upper adder]

yeah true but that kamehameha just destroys me if i’m not careful

[upper adder]

defensive snowball and steel skin is just amazing and not as risky as snowball

[pallid void]

agreed, it's way easier to lose snowball as a dps since u also need to run back to heal more often

[pallid void]

oh that;s whay you mean, yea i was running defensive snowball on caulifla

[upper adder]

that’s fair but i’m getting jumped often and then i’m losing the boost but that’s fair

[pallid void]

shou;da clarified

[upper adder]

yeah I don’t have the game on english and I don’t know the name of the defensive snowball

I think it’s build up, right?

[pallid void]

yea build up

the one with roshi

[wary rover]

Like I probably wouldn't go Snowball on Cell since he needs survivability early on

but Caulifla can

[pallid void]

yea cauli and cooler for sure

zamasu and vegetea i believe would want too easy for more health restoration

[wary rover]

Vegeta could maybe but his burst damage isn't that high, so idk how much value he would get

[pallid void]

unless if he has the upper hand from like golden cell jrs lol, idk

[upper adder]

i always got the feeling that he has solid damage but no as much survivability as others

[upper adder]

y’all what is your go to move for super start?

i’ve been going with skill 1 but idk if it’s optimal

[pallid void]

i be going for s2 most times but i also go for s3 since i tend to neglect it

i'm great at securing kais regardless of the level of her s2 but surviving can also be a big issue at times so her defensinve help is very good to

also helps with stalling

[upper adder]

yeah true I will try

nice i‘m currently on a 8 win streak

[vagrant mortar]

Depends on the enemy comp honestly and or who my lane partner is. However my rank on tank rn is nothing to scoff at. Its usually skill 3 if thats a lot of energy characters on the enemy team. Or skill 1 if its more rush/physical attackers. I like using the skill 3 to secure farms early game/cut off kamehamehas from stealing farm etc

In terms of my lane partner. If its someone that needs distance ill skill 3. If its someone that is up close ill skill 1.

I kinda neglect s2

[pallid void]

what rank are you btw

and yea her s3 is very good, especially with super start

[vagrant mortar]

Just hit b4. I dont get to play TOO much cuz 3 jobs. + i play other ganes too

[pallid void]

b4 is still really good for the amount of time you#re able to play

i miss the old times of b rank, A rank you#re either fighting the enemy team or your own teammates

[vagrant mortar]

Im b in tech and tank. I dont care for attackers character wise. I play 18 and uub here and there tho

Today im probably gonna play a decent amount of quck battle cuz im gonna get 1 to 2 games in with the whole cast to understand kits better

Since i have the afternoon off for once

[pallid void]

yea that sounds good, i feel ranked is better for testing out units since people in quick player won't really know what they;re doing

so it could seem like the character is too broken or they get wiped out easily but it's just that your teammates are so bad or the enemy team is so bad

but you can always get good matches though

but other than that, if you need tips on other characters, can always ask us about anything or check out the other chats for cards, skills and all sorts

[vagrant mortar]

Wull do. I just dont wanna be that guy that's using a character for the first time in ranked and cost other ppl Ls simpmy cuz of ignorance. If its a character ik and im still the liability. Thats different. Otherwise i do quick battle now since im in ranks of some kind of competance accross the board

[pallid void]

yea i get what you mwan, ig the best thing to do is just level up one skill at a time and then judge which ones you prefer the most or find valuable to your playstyle

and then go from there

[vagrant mortar]

Ye.
Ye. I found my characters per role for the most part. Im mostly learning other kits so i can think of ways to activley counter or merely just know what to look out for. That being said, knkwing more kits will also help me try to pick wat the team let alone my lane needs best for the most part as well. As i dont mind flexing

[upper adder]

My friend is often playing Uub or kid goku at the moment. any recommendations? It’s especially hard when the enemy team has hard hitters like goku

btw what is the tank y’all play the most besides caulifla?

[vagrant mortar]

If im not on caulifla im on the prince of saiyans himself

[vagrant mortar]

For uub i like to use zamasu or caulifla(woth rildo specifically)

Someone that can do a good job of preventing the enemies from diving uub. That being said, idk about ur friend. But the uub has to be good at keeping his distance too

[upper adder]

does anyone else have the problem that solo q is literally impossible to play and win

[vagrant mortar]

Wat rank are u

[pallid void]

i think it's also cause it's the weekend and more people will have free time to play

so more time to spend with trash teammates

[upper adder]

oh I should’ve clarified that I’m playing low rank as technical because i wanted to lvl up

i’m d1 rn with technical and both of my mates were afk in 2 consecutive games

like i’m fine with trash mates as long as they help a little bit

last game I had to attack all the gods of destruction alone

[pastel otter]

Solo q is hell. If you are really lucky, you could win 6 times in a row and then lose just about every match. It's gambling, you always lose.

[upper adder]

yeah true and idk why you start a game if you’re gonna go afk for the rest of the game

my mates in the last game didn’t even attack they were just doing nothing

[vagrant mortar]

I gotta open up to playing with more ppl around hwre that seem chill.

If youre down for games ill play with u if im ever free. My attack is my lowest rank atm so i could run that with u if u wanna tech @upper adder

[upper adder]

sure i’m gonna let you know when I play solo again

[pallid void]

whgat do y'all think is a better combo

s1 and s3 or s1 and s2

it sounds super obvious when you read the description but s1 and s3 can be super annoying

[upper adder]

I like the s1 and s2 combo more because I like to use skill 3 to escape

the speed boost of s3 is just good to have when you have to escape or kill an enemy that’s running away

but both combos are great

[smoky tangle]

lowk s1 and s3 saves me so much though

[smoky tangle]

Always wanna play if I am free heh.

[pallid void]

i've been prioritising her s1 lately, and i've been doing great ngl

[smoky tangle]

Same. Had a beastly game just now. Skin of my teeth. It was scary but s1 carried like half of my kills.

[pallid void]

i should try and show as much love to her s3 but man is it so much better to constatly throughout provoke

[smoky tangle]

S3 also carried that's my like, my thing

heh

[minor dew]

Couldnt agree more tbh

[pallid void]

it's so amazing, cause they can't escape with skills so they just have to focus on running away but even then your s2 will just catch up to them

[pallid void]

most times, i go for s3 when it;s super start

un;ess it's super start and s1 boost

[minor dew]

Maybe i should try s3 when i get super start

This skill seems interesting

[smoky tangle]

Lowk I always get s1 superstart

[minor dew]

Same here

[vagrant mortar]

Wassup ppl with awesome character taste(assumption)

[pallid void]

i do it mainly cause i forget to level up her s3 and helps block off exp

[minor dew]

Yo

[pallid void]

waddup

[pallid void]

i'd do it for super start + gold cell jr

denying exp is very helpful

[smoky tangle]

that's fair

For sure though it is

[minor dew]

Now that ur saying it

It can give me and my teammate an insane advantage

[smoky tangle]

it's also insane for protection

[minor dew]

And the speed buff

[pallid void]

mhm

[minor dew]

(Unless 17 come and flip it into movement speed down)

[pallid void]

and if you wanna be real aggressive with it, you can use it to prevent escape

[minor dew]

Hell yeah

[smoky tangle]

Exactly

[minor dew]

Ima use her rn and go for skill 3 if i do get super start

[pallid void]

have fun with it

i just need to step leaving her s3 at level 1 until level 11

when all my other skills are level 3

at least all of them should be level 2 by the time i'm level 9

[smoky tangle]

I usually max s2 last

S3 has such vast utility, block people away from a boss, from a tower, even at the dragon shell you give your teammates the ability to attack it

without enemy intervention

[minor dew]

Holy moly i absolutly destroyed my opponents

I got super start and i went for s3 and it helped me and my team so much

[pallid void]

imma try out a match where i focus mainly on her s1 and s3

still have s2 before s3 for the farming stage but after that, will go with s1 and s3 mainly

[pallid void]

i wanna try something funnny when i hop on caulifla next time

build up, art of decoy and either defensive step or limit breaking jumo

[upper adder]

sounds like an good defensive build

but idk how good art of decoy is

[pallid void]

probs not THAT good but deffo helps with escaping

[vagrant mortar]

I really gotta start messing with cards more and ACTIVLEY utilizing them.

I run the one red card where it does like bonus damage if u land 2 skills in 2 seconds. Then proceed to only use one skill in a fight. .ultiple times(her skill1) cuz i want to save the skills for if they try vanishing or i need to block a energy attack etc

[upper adder]

do you mean flash lightning?

btw y’all what is your favorite character from each category?

[vagrant mortar]

Uub even tho i dont use him enough
Caulifla
17 even tho i use gohan more cuz his kit is really fun

[drowsy glacier]

DPS - Bojack
Tank - Caulifla
Tech - Gotenks (He doesn't even need to be out yet my glazing knows no bounds)

[vagrant mortar]

Only didnt say gotenks cuz he wasnt out yet lol

[minor dew]

Dps ss goku
Tank caulifla
Support hit

[upper adder]

valid answers

I think mine are:
Dps 18
Tank Caulifla
Support 17

[pallid void]

for me it's
DPS; trunks
Tank: cauli
Tech: Nothing rn but i am looking forward to gotrenks

[sour merlin]

2nd best chat fr -w-

[pallid void]

fr fr

love this place, nice discussions and great insight

[sour merlin]

Totally not cuz im a Kale so i have to love caulifla 🫢

[pallid void]

lmaoo deffo a different reason or 2

[proud rain]

Kale
Caulifla
Frieza
For me

[vagrant mortar]

Suoer start + skill boost1 is just not ok for caulifla bro

I feel bad

[tiny breach]

Yes

[tiny breach]

Caulifla mains are obligated to protect kale

[light canyon]

ive could have sworn ive said this

[pallid void]

I feel like we all collectively agree on this as like a hive mind of some sorts 😭

The natural instinct of a caulifla main

[light canyon]

Caulifa and kale been carrying me now, I’m a2 for dng and tank

Playing around a2 feels harder

[pallid void]

That’s very poetic

Kale also helped me get to a4, ofc used trunks but 🤫

I wanted to use hit for my tech journey to a rank to fit the u6 theme but gotenks was nearby

Could do that if you want

[light canyon]

Lowk

But there will be better options in the future

[wary rover]

is there a reason to level up S3 past 1 till late game

[pallid void]

you should tbh, very strong defensivkey for blocking attacks and escpaing enemies especially when gettting jumped

also great for stalling

[wary rover]

I mean does it not just do that at level 1?

[pallid void]

big difference

[wary rover]

the push back range being bigger is definitely good

[pallid void]

late game you're gonna be getting jumped by the team, the size difference helps a lot

yea

[wary rover]

I mean I said I have not been upgrading it till late game, what I originally meant was if there was a reason to upgrade it earlier

[proud rain]

No

Max s1 and s2 before s3

[pallid void]

ohhh sorry

[pallid void]

^

but what you can do is at level 9, have it be level at level 2

adn then start maxing everthing out first so that you still give priority to the rest but also have it at a decent level to still be able to escape and survive better

[solemn trellis]

what am i supposed to do with energy release

[proud rain]

sometimes i level skills instead of the ult

her ult is like

not that great

[light canyon]

Energy release needs to be buffed

[twilit ravine]

It's for escaping an easy provoked

Not a damage ult until it's maxed

[grand bay]

whats cauliflas best card build?

[pallid void]

can go full defensive with build up, steel skin and defensive step since she does really good damage for a tank

can mix it up with 2 defensive cards and 1 offensive card like :

1. Snowball, steel skin and defensive step
2. Build up, giant slayer, defensive step
3. Build up, Steel skin, wicked warrior

the other 3 defenesive cards are not bad but imo i feel like the 3 listed are better for her

Too easy suits characters that constantly heal like vegetea, cell and zamasu

Barrier is not bad but caulifla wants to be taking all the hits forr the dps so steel skin is better suited and solid barrier is more of a protection card for squishies,

Andthen guardian angle is reliant on your teammate sbeing around and sometimes they might be off on the distance doing something else and late game the enemy team will try and make sure you're alone adn jump you there.

could also go simple with 1 of each card color like snowball steel skin and limit breaking jump

or build up, giant slayer and limit breaking jump

then the last suggestion so it's not too much is 2 greens 1 blue with build up, steel skin and limit breaking jump

[sour merlin]

wao

[quartz tusk]

depends on the situation an match up

if youi want straighyt damage and youi know you can win go snowball giant slayer and rbave warriror

if tanky match up go build up steal skin brave warrior

enemy has high burst go full tank

but best go to build is build up giant slayer then brave waarriro?defensive step

[haughty roost]

does provoke force SSJ3' IT on her too?

[wary rover]

um I've never had it happen to me though its probably a niche scenerio so I'm not sure

I wouldnt think so, but I guess its possible

[haughty roost]

i think i've seen some just yeet out, on paper he should not be able to do it but if he can that's very cringe

[winter island]

I run Too Easy (Green), with Giant Slayer (Red) and then Wicked Warrior (Red)

I’m not really out there trying to snipe. I want to soften them up so my damage peeps do their thing.

Rildo as a helper. Even though I’m STILL not sure what Wrath does

[haughty roost]

too easy is a very bad card i'd suggest build up tbh, red cards on her aside snowball are not that good. If you are ahead every time you touch someone with S1 he is dead, but you are very squishy with them.

Steel skin if extremely ahead, solid barrier if not but still i'd take solid.

I also like double vanish because you want to be able to chase people any time you desire and you lack disengage options

if you want to rely on damage peeps you already do provoke which is enough for them to do their job, Rildo Wrath is a taunt on the closest enemy, they are forced to move towards him is basically a Vegeta's photon bomber but with a stun on top

[winter island]

I’ll consider this when my combination starts losing. I’m winning 9/10 games or at least performing well with other teammates feeding

I like the extra health

But I’ll definitely keep it in mind

[haughty roost]

rank?

[winter island]

LOW LOL

[haughty roost]

so bots, ye btw no PLEASE DON'T USE TOO EASY

[winter island]

I play very casually

[haughty roost]

is not extra health is a small shield that is not even the value of build up damage reduction, with a cooldown and low duration

[winter island]

I get paired with real people

[haughty roost]

don't take it on anyone

nah trust me, untill B rank there is no real people

and even then sometimes you hope you get bots instead

[winter island]

That does make sense

I’ve used build up too

But I’ve found myself losing those slap ups with cooler or zamasu

With too easy I am winning them

[haughty roost]

you still loose, if you die with build up you would die with too easy, you just reach lower hps faster

that's just pure placebo

[winter island]

I’ll consider it. But I won’t change until I need to

[sour merlin]

He pulls the enemies basically

You could prevent them from escaping when low health or use him also to escape

Although he can only pull one person at a time...

So if theres two people chasing you the other one still will chase

[winter island]

Better one than two I guess

Is Cabba better?

[sour merlin]

Cabba gives you more def

[light canyon]

super duper def

[tepid yacht]

i have trouble deciding too, I like all three helpers on tank

frustrating to place an AOE helper at the wrong time and have the enemy just wait it out then return when it fades. The higher I climb the more I see the function of Hire Dragon but obv can't go that every game

[quartz tusk]

Ppl still use ridlo

[haughty roost]

rildo is superior in every way. If you need defence you are probably far behind or you play vegeta and you have a proper team.
Rildo is hard cc, hard cc>>>>everything else in mobas, on top of negating every kind of damage during his duration... meaning it is a damage reduction too in some ways. You can use it to block chokepoints, like if you are doing a Kaio and they are waiting close you put it in the wall chokepoint and you secure kaio right away

[proud ferry]

any tips on how to play Caulifa?

Tried her and...I did terribly

I did watch a guide so I just think of her as a simple one

What do people go for skill wise? S1>S3>Super>S2?

[quartz tusk]

If ridlo works for your playstyle i guess even though its ez not getting trapped by it when you they drop it you can get quickly

[haughty roost]

wording

but rildo works wonders with her for the sole fact that provoke removes any chance to use gapclosers, if they burned vanishes your rildo will hit 100%

[proud ferry]

I don't feel confident about using her, Rildo does work for me, unsure on performance, probably okish if I do use her

[haughty roost]

it's tank queues, no tank will giga carry a game. You still lack objective potential in solo and if you overextend for towers you have slow movement to escape. Maybe if you see noone forces your early game you can try cell and just farm while they respect your imperfect form

[proud ferry]

Guess I need to get a hang of it

[wary rover]

I do go rildo, but cabba can help win the first kai

[proud ferry]

Red Card Caulifa honestly solves my problems

[sleek flax]

This character makes me want to blow my head smoove off

Is there like any reasonable counterplay cell has against a competent caulifla?

Like i get kicked once and big bang crash whiffs because it forces me to put the reticle on her instead of being able to lead the shot and predict where she is going

Raid smash cant be used to finish off a weak dps because she kicks me once and now my entire gameplan of finishing off weaker targets is shut down instantly

[proud rain]

sounds like you just need to savebig bang crash until after she kicks you

[pastel otter]

She is so broken. Can't really do much against her. Seen her survive a 1 vs 4

[proud ferry]

All green cards?

Been using Red since I struggle to tank hits

[proud rain]

ive seen cooler and cell do the same tbh

[tepid yacht]

She is only as broken as the other tanks. I personally find Vegeta way easier to dominate with but Cauliflower is my fav to play.

as for Cell, anyone who brought Kyabe Helper is easily beating Cell with that cage match Super

Cell is for picking on weaklings imo, more thematic, better results than targeting the tank

[proud rain]

recently if im doing good

been skipping on leveling up ult

its been working so far

although lvl 3 ult is really strong

i might be wrong on skipping the ult

need to test some more

[proud rain]

hopefully it doesnt take me from S1 to A4 like testing shell on Kale

[drowsy glacier]

It's just easier for Caulifla than it is for Cell & Cooler.

[proud rain]

I dont think so

Cooler has those mini shields plus a dash

While caulifla has a dash she needs to hit something for her to escape

[smoky tangle]

Rildo is genuinely so good.

[tepid yacht]

Rildo is great, your best gamble in soloqueue even, but there is no perfect,golden disable rule that puts all disables above being thwarted by any stat buff ever in any circumstance. If it is indeed picked unanimously all the time, the duration or range will be adjusted until it is at a point that it is a tougher decision between helpers again.

Like for versus Cell like I said you don't NEED anything, but if you have Kyabe he is never winning a Cell Games versus you for sure. Even if you think the Helper is bad, it still counters Cell

And i think if Cell became more dominant in the tank meta we might see that helper suddenly see more use

[wary rover]

I'm starting to kinda like Strategic Escape

for my first card

combined with S3 it helps me get out a lot

[quartz tusk]

snowball, giant slayer/barrier, limit breaker is meta dont @ me

[steady dagger]

@quartz tusk hi

[proud ferry]

I skipped the Super and it kinda felt better ngl

but it was Super Start so idk

[proud rain]

I think

At lvl 4

Getting a 2nd level on the kicks rather than on S3 works better

[quartz tusk]

your suppsoed to do that

[pallid void]

for the longest, i used to go level 2 on s2 first

it was good until i got to higher elo, then i realised s1 is much more valuable

[proud rain]

[quartz tusk]

Yes its your most viable skill

I dont put a point in s3 until lvl 6

[pallid void]

I don't even put 1 til level 7

you're better than me lol

but ever since i've focused more on her s1, games have been SWEEEET

s rank feels like testing grounds now, i feel safe playing other characters

[proud rain]

A and S are free so testing is nice

[quartz tusk]

Yea if you dont care about getting top 100 just play whatever or just limit test

[proud rain]

Though i did went all the way from S to A4 testing kale with the shield 2nd card

Build is bad, just go prepare to die

[quartz tusk]

Rn playing 17 he does alot of damage holy

You can 1v4 if you kite and dont get touch with snowball,prepare to die, lbj

Dishing out 200k damage lmaoo

Barrier ball becomes and excution below 30% health max snowball stack

[tepid yacht]

i used to go 213 and played around with 321 and 312, but 1>2>3 just feels a little safer to me

[proud ferry]

I pretty much go for 1>2>3

[upper forum]

What cards do you guys run?

[grim cove]

Snowball, Steel Skin/Barrier, and the defensive dash. I'm currently toying with the lv3 that increases rush attacks and with build-up

[pallid void]

yea it's fun to test in those 2 tiers

got s on tank, so don't really care as much no more

if i get it again next season, cool

if not, cool

[sharp bronze]

Caulifla against everyone: we fight.

Caulifla against Toppo: the jig is up, run

[proud rain]

Because of him

I think skipping S3 is no longer the play

Need a escape mechanism

[quartz tusk]

Yea toppo hard counter caulifa

[sharp bronze]

Yeah I’ve been investing into s3 more now. Also can’t rely on teammates to do their job as dps

[modern merlin]

I’ve been using my ult to escape even more now because of Toppo

[sharp bronze]

Want to duo it up? I’ll be dps

[quartz tusk]

Hell yea im down send friend code will be on later found out that duet night abyss is out

[pallid void]

yea i feel guitly palying toppo

cause she counters my girl

but he's teh most fun dps for me

[quartz tusk]

the feeling of getting his third skill off against 4 ppl is so satisfying lol

i love th finger blast animation

[pallid void]

broo same

i love toppo man, he;s super fun

and his little beyblade aniamtion is so good for stopping hit and clearing farm

[sharp bronze]

Bet I’ll be on tonight
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[sour merlin]

I am adding u aswell

[meager pebble]

Is crush cannon bad

[proud rain]

Lvl 3 is good

[quartz tusk]

Lvl 3 crusher mad good with full stack snow ball it just melts everyone

[pallid void]

one thing i hate abouyt the hero leaderboard is that it's very much inaccurate of who is actually the best

cause since most people were fighting bots, they were able to get insane battle score levels

[meager pebble]

Outside of getting Abilities maxed out does lvl up affect your stats all that much

[grim cove]

I think it’s noticeable

[sharp bronze]

We don’t even know what exactly increases the score. The people with super high scores literally did everything. All the tower dmg, all the bosses, 15 minute games, 20+ kills

Character rankings should function the same way the regular ranking works. You win a game, your character points go up. You lose, they go down

[pallid void]

Yea and that’s super uncommon

And the thing is that imagine if the number 1 player for caulifla doesn’t even play caulifla like that

Like imagine if the vast majority of people that are in top 500 for caulifla players are way better and have more understanding and vary in playstyle with her

[pallid void]

Yea I thought it would be like that at first, this makes a lot more sense

[proud rain]

i truly

do not understand wjy people even pick piccolo and uub in rank

theyre garbage

"oh but piccolo can snipe and do a gorillion damage" yeah he can also get jumped the entire game and die

"b-b-but his arm"

you migth as well pick an enemy healer if you pick any of those 2

since your dmg might actually heal them

[vast mesa]

maybe you need to let the grillmaster cook

no excuse for uub though that boy has nothing good going for him

[pallid void]

i agree

it;s unfortunate there are much better that are much simplet navigate

ya gotta be precise with piccolo too

i'm personally not against people playing characters they wanna play, even bojack

cause they can make it work

[proud rain]

im not interested in "this character could be good if the player is playing out of his mind"

you can have brain damage and do more damage with Goku than what the piccolo will do

[proud rain]

aight finally

S on tanks

this was actually harder than with dps

tech next

[grim cove]

Yeah DPS are often more self-sufficient than tanks and techs. It makes things harder.

[proud rain]

I dont know yet about tech since im about to grind on it

But so far Tank feels like the hardest class

You cant turn the game on your own unlike dps or tech

[sinful tiger]

My secret to winning with tank - (1) pick cabba, since unlike Rildo you can use cabba during the first kaio

(2) hope that you have a decent enough team so that that first kaio snowballs into the whole game

(Someone tell me if i'm being dumb. Tank is my worst class)

[sharp bronze]

Yeah you can. If you shut down their lane get all the Kais, you’re grooving. At that point it’s top lane selling

[proud rain]

So, not on your own

You can absolutely wreck a lane and snowball into a victory

But you cant bring the game back on your own if the game went bad

Dps and tech can

A few kills and some exp and DPS is up and running, can kill their tank and other dps

Tech can sneak score due to their speed

Tank is fkd

Youre just left as a meatshield

0 control on the game

Since youre kinda just defending and hoping you dont die from the dps 2-3 lvls above you

Sure you can get back into the game and be even but youre still stuck defending and reacting rather than causing reactions across the map

[sharp bronze]

Whatever you say, but I’m still going to get my Caulifla mvp carriers regardless

[vast mesa]

so what your saying is

unlike the grillmaster you cannot boil water

[proud rain]

no im saying hes trash compared to the other dps who are both stronger and easier to play

[proud rain]

thats not a high bar

i get mvps constantly with any tank

it doesnt even have anything to do with my points

tanks can carry the game if they win the lane, they cant if they get a bad lane

maybe they could but its way harder and riskier than the other roles

[vast mesa]

maybe you need to let your grillmaster cook

[proud rain]

maybe they need to play something good and not hope to get carried by the tank and 2nd dps

[pallid void]

^

so manny times have i been able to shut down bot lane and then all i hear is "OH NO, THEY'VE GOT YOUR GOD OF DESTRUCTION"

[undone marsh]

trying to get her ball animation in an actual game but the gokus keep taking ball

[proud rain]

I changed my mind

Technical is the hardest role to climb

Unless youre frieza you really depend on your teammate not sharting the bed in lane

[pastel otter]

Use Buu or Gotenks if you have him

[proud rain]

Buu is too dependant on your teammate

17 and frieza are better for solo climb

[pastel otter]

You have to carry with him

[proud rain]

With what damage

Or hp

Sure you could get them out of position with the run skill

But theres still the chance you just die if your solid barrier was poked during the kidnapping

[pastel otter]

With snowball, he can do good damage. I found it way easier to rank with support with Buu than damage as Dabura

[proud rain]

dabura

Well yeah you were throwing while Buu is actually good he just requires teammates to have braincells

[grim cove]

For my experiences 17 is the better one to use solo. Maybe hit but I just cannot use him properly

[proud rain]

I dont really know how hit works and im too lazy to learn when frieza can just play pve and win

[vast mesa]

me when my technical character doesnt kill everything in a 30 ft radius

buu has good damage too his strangle gum does good damage and sets up for you and your teammate if theyre around to finish them before they run

[proud rain]

im not arguing whether buu is good with a teammate or not

im saying hes more dependant on having a good teammate

compared to frieza who can just play pve

because all his skills are made so other people kill the ones youre setting up on

could buu kill someone solo? probably

if hes ahead and the other guy has no burst

[quartz tusk]

@sharp bronze added

[quartz tusk]

Let me know if you trying to play later took a 3 day break mighht be trash

[sharp bronze]

Got it

[winter island]

Having a hard time dealing with Coolers and Cells

I should have picked Cell over 18 when I had the chance dammit.

I hope the next character wave has a tank

[grim cove]

Yeah that’s be cool

[undone marsh]

kinda meh tbh

[silent coyote]

Mmm booba

[main gull]

So is there like a definitive best divine card build especially when you get up in rank cause im A2 with tank and a caulifla main and I wanna know what’s the build for being able to do good damage and maintain tanking capabilities if possible

[grim cove]

I guess something like Snowball / barrier / defensive step

[proud rain]

roshi barrier limit breaking jump

[main gull]

Preciate y’all

[sharp bronze]

I use snowball if I feel like my lane partner is good and we get early kills. If not confident, I go build up. I’ve always used steel skin but barrier is better apparently. Third is lbj and wicked warrior. Also been trying out strategic escape with her s3. Lightning swift is also solid early game. The trick is just to vanish towards your opponent and hit them. You can sneak some unexpected kills with it.

So:

1. Snowball/lightning swift/build up/strategic escape
2. Always steel skin or barrier
3. Lbj or wicked warrior

[main gull]

Noted

[grim cove]

Basically, if you battle against long range / burst damage characters, barrier is better because you soak more damage in those 2s than with steel skin

Like against SSJ3 or Piccolo, its really good

[frank trench]

Yeah steel skin is better vs characters who do damage to you over a gradually period of time or people who can't can instantly burst you down while solid barrier is better vs characters who can burst you down in 1-2 moves before you can blink as PH74 mention

If your barrier is up a all damage divine cards fully charged SBC isn't even doing 20% of your HP much less 10%

[pallid void]

now my question is for skils

what do you level up, how do you use said skills and when

ofc something like s1 is simple which is fore applying provoke and the general damage dealing but what s2, s3 and ult

[sharp bronze]

Sometimes I will put 2 skill points into s1 for the bigger radius at lvl3. Having both provoked helps a ton. If I see Toppo, I do s1 and s3 first, otherwise s1 and s2 have highest priority

If it’s sparkle dust, her s3 makes for really good defense at 3. Ult has lowest priority until you have 4 stack snowball then lvl3 is strong. If my teammate needs to run bc low health, s3 is good savior for them. S3 is also good for securing Kais by putting up that wall. If you want to rat towers, then maxing s3 first is good bc it knocks them further back with strategic escape

[pallid void]

i used to use 3 to try and block kais

it worked for a good while but then i started to mess up more than succeed

i do just go ahead and attack the dps most times to force the enemy tank to act and help my dps to capitalise but i'll be experiment while i'm in s rank AND in the beginning of season 2

i do also wanna try her rat build, what do you run for that

and lastly so i don't ask too much, since her ult is her lowest priority and understandably so, do you go is your skill set at level 5:
s1 -lvl 2
s2 - lvl 1
s3 - lvl 1
and ult level 0

[sharp bronze]

I do:
s1- lvl 2
s2 /s1 - lvl 3
s3- 4
S1- 5
S2 - 6
S3 - 7
S1-8

I don’t rely on her ult until I can max it. Now if you’re doing the rat build, there should better emphasis on S3 and ult. Ult slightly boosts your speed while reducing incoming damage. That’s when I use strategic escape on her. She’s the best rat among the tanks. Use s1 and s2 on tower, then use s3 and ult to run away. Ratting forces them to protect towers while giving your team easier access to securing bosses

[pallid void]

yea ngl her ult has been most useful for me when it comes to max gekis and escaping so when i didn't level up her ult, i didn't realy notice a difference

i also love the idea of ratting their towers while the team goes for boss

and the build i used for her rat build was strategic escape, barrier and lbj

[sharp bronze]

They can’t keep annoying her, so really it’s a 3v2 for the bosses. She’s a tank so 1 unit isn’t enough to deal with her, unless you’re 18 lol

[pallid void]

yea true lol, 18 is the worst to deal with

thanks for that, love the advice

[sharp bronze]

You can also experiment with Icarus. There’s this line on the map pointing to towers. If you use Icarus in that direction, you appear right next to their tower

[pallid void]

wiat what

i need to try that out

[proud rain]

its almost insane how in S rank peoiple still dont prioritize getting 16/nappa

and are fkin around in their lanes

[quartz tusk]

yeeeee

we do a little bit of trolling

[shut sonnet]

Im genuinely dying in seconds.

How do people play this character

[frank trench]

Ngl after playing her I'm honestly starting to respect caulifa players since while I'm still figuring here out they know how to make her borderline immortal

I've just started trying her with backstab and I love what I'm seeing

2.5/2.6 seconds 2nd storm kick goes brr

[frank trench]

Main target gets provoked then if someone shows up a second later they'll get provoked too instead of me having to wait 3-4 seconds and I'll still have my ult in my back pocket

[frank trench]

I think I'm understanding caulifa better

Just because I can take less damage then others via applying prevoke again and again doesn't mean I shouldn't avoid it or always stand my ground early game

Idk how other caulifa's control early game so well vs other tanks but in my experience i need some levels before I can even think of leading the charge in a early game 1v1

[proud rain]

I just go in

Hell i even start by using S2 on em

[burnt plover]

cards

[digital bramble]

a

[grim cove]

I use Snowball, Barrier/Steel Skin/Pick your favourite. Whicked Warrior, Defensive Step and double dash are my personal choice

If you feel like the lane phase will be difficult for teammate issue or if you're generally struggling, use Build Up instead of Snowball.

[upper adder]

hi guys

haven’t played for a while

do y’all have an new favorite build or upgrading order or is it the same

[quartz tusk]

Well boys its been fun broly and gohan coming out

[pallid void]

🫡

also gotta wait and see if patch notes are gonna come for her

[quartz tusk]

Domt think they will merf her she will still be strong s2 until i see broly kit

[pallid void]

yea for sure

i am so curious for vegeta

[quartz tusk]

Ssj4 Vegeta might lowkey be a better caulifla

Just saw all his skills there basically same kit but dont think vegeta kick prcs provoke but its does knockback

And he has a shield you can move around which is so clutch for pushing tower and team fights

[pallid void]

i agree with this

his s3 looks way easier to use and stronger defensively + offensively

getting kais will be annoying when against him, his s2 is gonna be the worst if you're tryna escape and already used vanish too

mixed with s1, oh man i'm not rady for this guy

[quartz tusk]

Plus his passive when he does his kick gives him shields wtf!!???

Imagine that stacks witth max genshin burst lmaoooo

He will be the best tank in the game saying it now hes better than cooler

Already seeing the builds you go build up, giant slayer,lbj/pursue or snowball,giant slayer,lbj because you might need the green cards because of the passive so you can build damage

Also his rush attack gets powered up ????? If he gets nappa buff its gg pair that with wicked warrior holy he might be p2w

[pallid void]

i just forgot about that

wait hold on

[pallid void]

oh no i just remembered that nappa buffs rush attack dmg

it;s worse when his s1 and s2 are gonna be ANNOYING

a staggering kick that deals extra damage when hitting a wall, then you have his s1 that makes it harder to leave

[quartz tusk]

Yeaaa thats its boys

I might be dropping caulifla

[pallid void]

same here

[quartz tusk]

Snowball card om ssj4 is going to be disgusting

[pallid void]

well i will still play here every now and then but it feels like a toppo situation with trunks

[pallid void]

yea not ready for this

and then you have final shine that can be redirected

oh wait, his s2 is gonna be even worse to deal with when it';s s2 draw boost

i just remembered

[crisp heron]

[shut sonnet]

How does one properly play Caulifla?

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-peanutbuttergamer-pbg-austin-hargrave-notebook-gif-13244897

[modern merlin]

Yeah cauli is the best tank on earth

She doesn’t deserve to be this insane

Either that or she matches my play style

[pallid void]

@sharp bronze i tried rat caulifla but with gekishin high instead of strategic escape

she's amazing

i got 3 max gekishins bursts and helped shred the woters easily

[sharp bronze]

I forget about that card. I’ll give it try sometime

[pallid void]

Yea it’s really good

[winter island]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-great-discovery-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-discovery-important-discovery-gif-22234330

[spring quail]

Is it best to lead in with storm kick before using rush attacks?

Because storm kicks apply provoked

[pallid void]

absolutely

s1 is very vital

use it on the dps to force the tank to protect their dps

while your dps helps to secure kai or kill the dps with you

it helps with zoning and maintaning control

[rain patrol]

Level up order? I currently do s1 > s2 > s3

[quartz tusk]

Wait guys they didnt hard reset rank just drop us a 1 tier down right?

[true bridge]

Wow unless im missing something Caulifla Vs SSJ4 Vegeta is a god awful experience

[unique flower]

Nerfs may have hurt her. Less uptime on provoke means more DMG taken

[pallid void]

yeaaaa and people are saying she got a slap on the writs

but it sounds like she got hurt pretty badly

[shut sonnet]

All def cards she’s fine

[pallid void]

yea the def cards getting buffed is nice

[quartz tusk]

bruh

they guutted her

dawg

nvm i take that back

she still goods asf lmaoo

[winter island]

How bad are we screwed now that Vegeta 4 is out

[crisp heron]

you like being kicked against a wall stunned for 3 sec

[unique flower]

Lol

[pallid void]

yea that kick is very strong

only reason they survived the stun against me cause it was a 2v1

[quartz tusk]

s3 block kick you guys

s3 block kick and tje s1,s2 gg

[vast mesa]

s3 is 18's most valuable move

you can stack up all 4 marks without using your chasedown (s2) or execute (s1)

[crisp heron]

This is the caulifla discussion take that to the 18 one

[vast mesa]

wrong chat my bad guys

[pallid void]

sad times

her s2 is shorter

so is it just best to play a lot more defensively with her s1 and s3?

[quartz tusk]

Yea this season 2 with caulifa you cant run down ppl since the the cd increase for moves you gotta startt kitting and play off ppl mistake

And ssj4 beats you in a 1v1 because of the enchance auto but late agne you smoke him

So early game play safe against him

Acter doing this went on a 10 game winstreak

Caulifla still top tier just no more unga bunga gotta acutally think now

[pallid void]

frrrrr

i dind't even play her as defensilvey as other people did

i loved being able to go unga bunga, i mean i can with s2 boost but it just don't hit the same 😔

but yea i like the idea that ssj4 can beat her early game in a 1v1 but late game it flips

[calm stirrup]

Honestly hate Cauliflower.

[sour merlin]

GASPS

[pallid void]

the thing is with caulifla

is that she's very very fun to play

but super annoying to fight against

[spark bough]

best divine card setup in season2?

[upper adder]

i use build up, steel skin and defense step or wicked warrior

[spark bough]

Thx

[upper adder]

np, tell me if it works for you

[quartz tusk]

buildup steal skin wicked warrior 1v7

or build up giant slayer wicker warriro steal tanky and dish ot mad dmg

[spice fiber]

Built-up steel skin and wicked warrior she's a beast tanked the whole team with those I died but my teammates had enough time to hit there tower and boss

[pallid void]

even with build up, giant slayer and defensice step

she's a monster

i feel WAY more comfortable with at least 1 extra dps card on my deck

[spice fiber]

I agree I run giant slayer usually against ss Vegeta, zamasu help's wear down there armor and extra health but I usually do steal skin cause I get stuck soloing the lane

[oak mortar]

am i the only one who runs pursuer

bc of storm kick blaze dive combo

[fringe agate]

Damn yall weren't kidding caulifla is a menace with those green card buffs

[fringe agate]

Nvm its hell to play her

[upper adder]

🫡

[sour merlin]

Okay i think im starting to learn how to use her

[pallid void]

my fault for the late response

but yea steel skin sounds amazing

i wioll try snowball. steel skin and either lbj/backstab or defensive step if i dominate lane

and ffeel confident in my domination

[fringe agate]

How do I keep up with higher ranks as caulifla cuz I get tossed around like a ragdoll

[winter island]

I feel like it’s getting harder and harder.

[quartz tusk]

im sorry boys but caulifla isnt unga bunga anymore

still good but not A1

[fringe agate]

Caulifla's barrier is so awful

[fringe agate]

Don't let anyone tell you otherwise but caulifla really is not viable in the season

Even ssj vegeta and baby have less of a hard time than her

[burnt plover]

Disagree

[fringe agate]

Ok maybe not them exactly but the point still stands

[quartz tusk]

Caulifla is fine bro she smacks everyone except ssj4

[pallid void]

^

[upper adder]

haven't played her in a while

are y'all still having fun with her?

[pallid void]

yea still love playing with her

she's cool and been my day 1

[upper adder]

i also still like her but my team wanted me to pick dps more this season

[fringe agate]

You guys are so right I just didn't believe

[unique flower]

She ain't as good anymore but she is still easily a top 3 tank baby isn't close at all

[vast mesa]

being killed by baby might be the most embarrassing thing you could do in this game

[fringe agate]

You were all wrong caulifla sucks

[fringe agate]

Why the hell can ult gohan move her during her barrier how is that even fair

[quartz tusk]

bro this is sounding like a skill issue

[quartz tusk]

you got to adapt she cant unga bunga liek season 1 you actually need to go in out you cant frontlien like before unless you get an early lead

if your playing agaisnt an ssj4 play the laning phase slow anyone else its free money if you play agressively

[winter island]

She’s a baddie so I’ll get good

[vast mesa]

⁉️

[winter island]

Her energy release is dookie

[vast mesa]

you can dodge ults with it though

[winter island]

I use it and die

[unique flower]

How it gives u a speed buff so u don't die😭 get it lvl 3 and u knock em so far that they can't even hit u before u fly off with ur speed boost

[unique flower]

Yea caulifa used to be much more brawler like, gotta play her more smart now sadly lol

[winter island]

Not against Gohan

[unique flower]

True his lvl 3 is like just barely smaller rng than ur barrier bro can just snipe u

[winter island]

Gohan is tough I find myself absolutely fearing having to fight Dabura.

[vast mesa]

dabura is a problem for basically every character that punches up close

[winter island]

He’s fun to play ngl

[sour merlin]

Yea idk how to play her

I though when we used skill 1 we forced them to attack us but even so they killed my Kale partner

[fringe agate]

Her kick applies the provoked status all it does is reduce the damage you take from opponents who are provoked

[vast mesa]

it also makes her deal more damage to those provoked

[storm relic]

whats the best sequence for skill levels for caulifla?

just been doing auto this whole time for most characters

[fringe agate]

Usually you should prioritize having her skill 1 early since it's mainly how she deals her provoked

[fringe agate]

You can go S1 -> S2 -> Ult -> S3 if you wanna be more offensive early

[sharp bronze]

If I have a kale, I usually put two points into s1. Lvl 2 has a bigger radius making it easier to land. Kale can still get hit by aoe attacks. Otherwise they have to hit Caulifla. They did nerf the duration. But if you hit say both point blank with s1, it lasts twice as long vs hitting from a distance

[sour merlin]

I see

[oak mortar]

Nuh uh

It also forces skills (and only skills) to target caulifla

[fringe agate]

Honestly I thought that was just a bug

[oak mortar]

I wish it was also rush attacks

I’ve had many an ally die because of that

[sharp bronze]

It does you probably just didn’t notice provoke disappearing. Go to the game guide and find provoke

[inland iris]

Damn...what happen to her on ss2

[winter island]

Plenty of nerfs

I still perform relatively well with her

But she doesn’t feel as strong

Iirc her kicks got a longer cooldown, her barrier is worse somehow, and her projectile on SA2 is slow as molasses

Cell, Cooler both feel like better options. Not to mention Vegeta4

[winter island]

Doesn’t even apply with Ult Gohan

[quartz tusk]

Sounds like treason in here

Dont insult the big sis like that

[unique flower]

The speed buff? It does I'm pretty sure just gets u staggered for the first second and a half of the ult so it's annoying. Ultimate Gohan nerfs are gonna be beautiful tho he's by far the best tech it's so annoying

[winter island]

What if he isn’t nerfed. She’s gonna get even worse

I even bought her Saiyan armor 😭

[unique flower]

Bro if he don't get nerfed imma end it all (in game)

[fringe agate]

I swear everytime a new character hits i start getting bad at caulifla again

[winter island]

I fee like she's mid on the grand scheme of tanks

[oak mortar]

No

She is top 3

Up there with 4geta and cooler

[unique flower]

Idk Abt that, she is hard to learn but she is easily top 3 if not 2. The argument for cooler is that he is better against 4geta tho while caulifa is generally better for bosses and team fights.

[fringe agate]

Broly really hard countering her tho

[oak mortar]

cant rage whats already raging

[fringe agate]

Then its over 😔

[fringe agate]

Broly got me outta my one trick caulifla phase

Now I must resort to cooler

[fringe agate]

Nvm I gotta go back

[sour merlin]

I think im starting to learn how to play her

[sharp bronze]

Learned something new. Any skill that activates no obstruction will remove provoked. This could hurt Caulifla in the long run if more characters keep getting it. If an uub is provoked, they can just pop s2 and move freely

[hollow palm]

What cards do yall run and how do you prio the skills?

[cloud phoenix]

I prior S1 and S2. Leave S3 for last. I do Build Up/Solid Barrier/Wicked Warrior

@hollow palm

[fringe agate]

Figures why broly counters her

[hollow palm]

I see, thank you ^^

[cloud phoenix]

S3 is nice for the defense, but I like to practice "the best defense is breaking their face"

[hollow palm]

XD

[cloud phoenix]

aka deterrence

[sharp bronze]

Broly is a rough matchup for her. I’d use backstab to quickly reapply provoke. Also need to wait until he finishes stomping before hitting s1. Would also use s3 and try to run then apply s1

[winter island]

Got her to star rank 8

She’s been fun.

[frank trench]

Man...uub's value keeps going up

[sharp bronze]

He still got the health of a noodle

[frank trench]

Yep but at least he can run and not get ping ponged in the process unlike other low HP characters in dangerous situations

Or have his escape skills be focused on caulifa when provoked

[dim ruin]

Aight, soo I'm swallowing my pride and asking for tips here

Soo I don't know what happened, as I would play Caulifla and often times than not, not only would I win the match but get MVP

Now I can barely win any matches

At first I assumed it was just getting matched with bad players

But one to many times and I fear that I am the problem

Soo here I am

Trying to see if anyone can impart any wisdom to help me break my lose streak

Maybe it's my card pick

Maybe it's my skill obtain order

Hells, maybe the slight rebalance they did to her a while back screwed me over and the only reason I see it now it's cuz lower ranks were masking it

I dunno chief

[cloud phoenix]

So, what I take for Caulifa is Build Up/Steel Skin/Pursuer. Caulifa is great when she's finding the prime picks she wants to provoke and draw away from the fight. So, Piccolo for example, provoke him and go away from the fight or the boss and he has to target you. You may get hit, but his SBC now can't hit bosses. I focus on her S1, S2, then Ult and finally skill 3. I feel the best use of her S3 is blocking energy waves and ppushing back enemies who want to escape. I'll use it in lane to block people from going back to their GoD.

S2 is great when following up S1, hence Pursuer and it's great for securing farm and can in a pinch secure bosses. Cause you can hail mary through AoE with the dive kick

Someone that actually mains her can say better

[sharp bronze]

Yeah if they got piccolo or Goku on their team, I’m rushing them down. If my teammates still can’t secure the boss then hope is truly lost. If they got both then target piccolo first. Same for ss3. Don’t let me build snowballs and run away

[cloud phoenix]

What cards do you use?

[sharp bronze]

Depends. If they got Broly, I run strategic escape because his s2 nullifies my entire kit. Otherwise snowball. If they got burst like piccolo or kale, barrier. If they got ss3 and Goku, steel skin. Lbj or backstab are always good. If they got multiple people with 4 snowball stacks late game, defense step. If we get Nappa, wicked warrior is a valid choice (buff the card plz).

And another tip: if they got ulthan, target him with provoke so your teammates can breathe

[dim ruin]

What about skill priorities?

[dim ruin]

I think I figured it out

[cloud phoenix]

Personally S1 and Ult, then 2 and last 3.

[dim ruin]

yeah i think i figured it out what my problem was

I was playing Caulifla like a tank

While I should've been playing like a dps

8 matches since I've gone full into agressive play style and out of those 8 matches only one loss

I'm baffled as to how that works

But hey

Ain't going to let that gift horse bite me

[shut sonnet]

How do u play Caulifla?

I play her up close and personal

and it does not work for me lmao

[dim ruin]

I dunno im just going full into battle

Picked snow ball, gaint slayer & pursuer

Prioritized Skill 1 & 2 and ult when available, and finally skill 3 I keep at lvl1 unless the others are maxed out

[dim ruin]

Trying my best to kill the dps specially if it's Piccolo or Kale

If the server allowed to share images I would show the matches

[pallid void]

nah this ain't it

all red is not good, even for dps 😭

for a more aggressive build that's safe, i'd go with snowball IF you've dominated your lane successfully

and then go with some defensive cards like steel skin and defensive step

but a safer option imo is to go with build up, giant slayer and defensive step

you can also replace defensive step with something like lbj for better escapability

[pallid void]

what skills are you picking first

what skills are you prioritsing

[dim ruin]

I know it ain't conventional but it's worked for me

[pallid void]

can't hate tbh

angry avocado introduced me to the concept of ratting as caulifla

and that is super fun

[dim ruin]

Ratting?

[pallid void]

sneaking behind to take out towers

techs are the ones most likely to backdoor enemy tower when they're distracted but dps and tanks can do so as well

[shut sonnet]

1 & 3

[cloud phoenix]

Giant Slayer, over Steel Skin/Barrier? I've preferred 2G/1R with Pursuer since she already combos S1 into S2

[pallid void]

pursuer is interesting

might have to try that out when i get home

[vast mesa]

im not like a super expert caulifla

but skill 3 kinda sucks

i go skill 1 skill 2 first skill 2 is good for catching people running away since it has a really long range

[cloud phoenix]

The problem is that Skill 3 does what it wants to accomplish at level 1

[deft perch]

Best three card and playstyle ?

[proud rain]

Is full green the way to go with caulifla now?

[coarse pewter]

Yeah ,especially since guardian angel got buffed

[shut sonnet]

I was just about t osay

with the guardian angel buff

Extra HP, Steel Skin & Guardian Angel might be the move for her to maximize damage reduction right?

[fringe agate]

How viable is caulifla this season

[upper adder]

i think she’s still as viable as before even though ssj4 is still the best tank

[fringe agate]

Since build up is a joke now we gotta start resorting to mosquito tactics

[delicate hamlet]

Caulifla has never gotten a legendary emote has she?

[frank trench]

I just had a thought does steel skin reduce the damage you take from guardian angel?

[limpid plank]

Still very viable but this is the worst she has ever been

[shut sonnet]

I half believe all of the damage reduction is on the initial damage

[raw mulch]

How do I play this character to not be buns

And I'm talking all of it, level up progression early-mid game, best cards (I run Too Easy, Steel Skin, and Guardian Angel), and the actual playstyle. What am I supposed to be doing in lane fights, team fights, towers (attacking and defending).

[sour merlin]

I wanna learn too

Been going on a huge losing streak lately...

[quartz tusk]

Kite

[peak gull]

Idk if this is bad but I’ve been running Snowball, steel skin and Defense step or limit breaking jump this season it’s gotten me to B1 but I’m struggling now lol but ik I’ll hopefully figure it out

[thorn vortex]

she's a good tank even in the start of the game without the first card, but using snowball requires teaming up with an dps ally almost all the time

she can be alone but not too long enough, sometimes i underestimated a single enemy with defense up and i got kicked

i mean, that master roshi green card which gives you a lot of defense

[fringe agate]

Caulifla is not at her prime anymore and it's sad 😔

[thorn vortex]

but she's still a great tank ngl

idk how but she even overcomes the match

at least in my matches as an A2 tank

[fringe agate]

There has got to be a way to play her in this new meta

[swift pecan]

Can't wait for a super attack boost so that caulifla can finally beat people with crush cannon...

[prime temple]

Hey all

[peak gull]

Snowball allows that tbh

Technically so does giant slayer

[sour merlin]

Now we start on this one too lmao

[thorn vortex]

fighting S players in rank match as Caulifla with snowball helped me out a lot of times and gave me many victories

she has a great defense and increased hp late game, it's actually hard to kill her one a one even with 0 snowballs

[thorn vortex]

oh wow imagine a team with Caulifla, Kefla and Kale

that should be fun a lot

[fringe agate]

You'd think so wouldn't you

[thorn vortex]

wouldnt it for you?

[fringe agate]

It would be if caulifla fit the meta

[thorn vortex]

bruh Caulifla is pretty good for a tank wdym

[light canyon]

You could run a full uni 6 team

hit
Kale
Kefla
Caulifla

[sour merlin]

Legit

Or a fusions trio

Gotenks vegito and Kefla

Now we just need a Gogeta Tank

And fusions team

[shadow creek]

Is it just me or is Blaze Dive not working properly? Im testing it in training mode, and the follow up keeps whiffing. Like its not following up properly.

[sharp bronze]

Change frame rate

[shadow creek]

In quick game its fine. Just doesn't follow up properly in training.

[shadow creek]

Also im on ps5 and on performance mode.

[hardy spire]

Hey, I’ve been told my build is kinda outdated? I run Build Up - Steel Skin - Limit Breaking Jump and upgrade Sk1, Sk2, then Sk3 and Ult evenly.

Is this bad?

[fringe agate]

Build Up is useless unless you can manage to farm to a full stack so Too Easy is a safer choice instead and Lbj is good but you're better off switching it to defense step for more defense

As for your skill upgrades, idk

[hardy spire]

Thankyuuuu 💕

Dang, the Build Up fall off is crazy. Thanks for the advice

[gleaming barn]

The fact it’s actually a pretty good team

[true bridge]

Man after playing Bardock and SSJ4 for awhile coming back to Caulifla feels so bad, why is her S3 just infinitely worse than Vegetas's when the do kinda the same thing

[thorn vortex]

well, devs call that "adjusting"

[fringe agate]

Her passive is good at redirecting attacks, which is good for bosses and saving teammates, as well as giving her damage reduction but this season her damage reduction feels so miniscule she went from a brick wall to a punching bag. Bardock doesn't have to worry because his defense passive is straight up broken and Ss4 Vegeta is tanky as hell. The build up nerf might have affected her because of it. And then there's the fact more characters have aoe skills and stun capabilities that make her provoke passive and kit kinda obsolete not to mention her cc is kinda weak

[fringe agate]

Ihatebardockihatebardockihatebardock

[pallid void]

her form of escape is also not taht good

i think it;s best to be a sacrificial lamb of some sort to allow your dps to secure kai early game and help your team take out boss

that#'s how i've been playing her

she used to be a dog-walking, defensive meat shield that would gladily take the life of the opponent's dps

i love how everyone hated caulifla until we got bardock

he's way worse than her imo, he;s not evena true tank to me, he's just obnoxiuos

[light canyon]

not really, the team can only work if you get the super start

[harsh comet]

How do yall make Caulifa work rn?

[thorn vortex]

snowball does the trick for me

[gleaming barn]

Why not. Kale is easily one of the best damage characters, Kefla is almost a must in a team. Hit is pretty good depending on team tho…
And Caulifla is the strongest tank. People disagree because they rarely use her but thats truth

[thorn vortex]

Caulifla is pretty strong till these days, i dont get why ppl are saying she's not

just dont be a moron bro, she's a tank, not a dps or tech

they certainly dont know how to play with her or they are playing in a wrong way

[light canyon]

Kale works better with super start

[sour merlin]

As much as i Love kale

Against these New characters shes...not really that good against

[light canyon]

True

[burnt plover]

what cards to go for caulifua nowadays?

i always went build up, steel skin and depending on the match, lbj, guardian angel or defense step

[jolly herald]

Hi

I been in top 1 k every season with caulifla

This season Im out the top because I didn't played (I still rank B)

How Is working now Caulifla ?

[jolly herald]

She Is a tank, not Bardock

Bardock Is the three roles

[thorn vortex]

s3 is now slower than before

[jolly herald]

I felt that, what about the cards ?

And why im not tanky anymore

[thorn vortex]

more a tank and tech than dps, i dont quite see him inflict too damage on enemies

[thorn vortex]

he gets a lot of hp with defense up, she tanks well with it