#Dabura
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The demon king fears no vanish steps
New hero legit has moves that spams vanish step and has extra movespeed
dabura upscale cause he can oneshot spit the whole map

Don't worry my Dabulings, the next patch will definitely buff him
literally revert darkness spear and he's fine
dont think so personally
even before that he was still weak
like i think his difficulty to make work is a big thing
a lot of herous are just easier to use
with less inherant counterplay , like dabura cant do anything to double vanish or the cooldown reduction
Bad poke as well and kind of needs a heath buff to survive
It'd also be a good change to remove a step in the petrification process
In specific us having to hit an enemy with our slashes once the bar is full
reverting dark spears changes and just making the spears stay in the opponent that was hit for longer fixes so much about Dabura to the point where he's viable
could they do more to help him? obviously, and he'd definitely still need the help even after this change, but Toshi does Toshi things and doesn't care for anything but Gohan 
Actually yeah,I feel that it's way too much commitment to actually have to rush attack after the bar fills
So many times.. enemies have ran off or killed me with a full bar
A change like this would make him at LEAST 30% better off rip
I think the spear and the burn s3 inflicts should also passively fill bar
How has this man got so many buffs and STILL IS TRASH 😭
Dawg I played him so much in the beta
He was worse in the beta?
How lmao
No he was good
But then they nerf him and was trash
It's funnier if it's specifically dabura. Commentary on how badly he's being treated
IS HE BACK?
YES
WE ARE DABURA KIRK
THE DEMON KING APPRECIATES THE BUFFS
Did yall try him?
heard zamasu's buffs were damn good
hope my king got what he deserves too 🥺
I dunno,I was playing 18
His ult seems like a punish if the enemy team pushes too hard
Spear someone or even multiple at lv3 -> ult = free petrify on the most dangerous person
You can possibly just ult on boss during team fights just to create pressure on boss secure characters
Yep spear -> ult is the fear of petrify/petrify button with how fast the ult comes out now
It's It's good for that very last hit on boss
Spear someone then immediately rip ult on your feet if you're close to them or it's lv3
so dabura is kinda decent now or nah?
ACTUAL DABURA BUFFS!!!!!!!!

I say he's still not good...but he's definitely not as bad as before
He went from "Dabura tier" to "Low tier"
how much does the doom rays heal for now?
1,000
its decent
idk if its scales on enemies hit cause still hitting multiple people is not rly possible
but his 1v1s are better
so what do yall think is the leveling rn
still seems the same way with focusing on skill 3
it's only possible at max level tbh
Yeah and maxing out skill 1 ain’t it cause you cut you have to sacrifice either your skill 3 aoe
Or your skill 2
And with keflas damage and speed rn
Idk how bro has a chance to touch her
Or even get stone off
Maybe ult but stacks fall off so fast anyway
hows dabura after the buffs?
Ok
He is a bit better in 1v1s
But his weakness still exist
His ult buff is a god send
Imo he is now maybe toppo teir or lower
But sadly
Kefla is out
Kefla bends dabura over the table and spanks him
If you see her and your in a group
Swap
Swap lanes with your other dps
If S2 can be fixed with lower cooldown and Spears increasing per level then he would be top tier

which cards do you guys use on him now?
2 greens and backstab still
greens? which 2 do you use?
solid barrier and too easy build up if you want to live longer
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The demon king fears no mortal
on a real note, i'm happy with his buffs
he's not good but you can actually use him and actually help the team
never go up against Kefla you literally can't win against her you will die 100% of the time even with the darkness spear speed boost
i've been using snowball, barrier and LBJ, though you can swap snowball with too easy or even lightning swift if you feel like you can't stack kills with it, LBJ is hella flexible but i just prefer that extra movement and escape potential over the others, though anything except guardian angel is basically viable
barrier is basically a must, but maybe you could get away with steel skin depending on matchups. having the ability to take hits, pick someone off, then dip away is very good imo
I like that his ult is just a near insant petrify button now in team fights if you use it right
Or just a quick delete button if you already petrified someone
I swear the 1 thing dabura needs rn is his darkness spear to go from 4/4/4 seconds on leveling up to 4/4.5 or 5/5 or 6 seconds so you can actually petrify easier mid-late game
Without backstab
it always was a delete button you just had to get them to around half
Still tho I like that it doesn't take a business day to come out now
Especially if you are under attack while trying to nuke someone who's already petrified with your ult
up the length of time the spear stays in the person for and maybe increase the cooldown by a second, i think he'd be very good with that change
or make it so when he hits level 3 on the spear, if you hit multiple spears on the same person the time it stays in them increases
I also feel like his S3 applying "Burning" should do a bit more since the length of the effect goes down if you vanish or during high speed flight
I know the move applies movment speed down but maybe Burning should not be removed by going into high speed flight and instead slow you down during it by like 20%/30%
only DOT in the game that runs out when you move btw
Dabura's whole thing is that he can be dealt with by using vanishing steps so why give it a 2nd counter that can be done by literally moving?
And why does the burning effect not really play into his kit of chasing down survivors or being in 1v1's?
So how is dabura?
he's runnable
bad, but runnable
Hey that's a huge improvement
I didn't think they could salvage dabura from what he was
Going for Dabura Tier to Low Tier is a leap
this
kefla runs you though
outside of her
uub is also a bad matchup
but broly is winable if you play well
...I think I'll submit that as feedback
Change "Burning" status effect from "Receive DMG at regular intervals. You can reduce the length of this effect by executing a Vanishing Step or moving at high speed"
to "Receive DMG at regular intervals. Reduces Movment Speed during High Speed Flight. You can reduce the length of this effect by executing a Vanishing Step"
vegito is also winable as he cant rly stop you from pitting
while it's a tough match up i think people are exaggerating it rn since i haven't felt like a fight against kefla's unwinnable
skill 3 max and skill 2 slow
idk how to beat that
I mean,i feel that's more because it's been less than a day since kefla came out
She's unique in her design,it'll take time for people to get her
Once she's optimized fully dabura will struggle
im not even exagerating
she's glassy, just kill em before they kill you
it's a big reason why i run barrier
the movespeed she gets is just bonkers
thats for every dps dog, thats not a reason , if a character can teleport and oneshot , saying oneshot them back doesnt fix
its like saying vayne from league isnt a cancer matchups for melee cause
you can oneshot her
Ngl dabura feels like a "jack of all trades master of none" but specifically in melee combat 1v1's
sadly she has pretty easy tool to escape that and run you down for making a mistake
she can't one shot you with barrier, THAT is what i'm saying
taking barrier though means no giant slayer damage
and you still have to fight enemy tank
he doesn't need it if you run snowball
idk thats a bit too ballsy
especially as a mlee
All of this stuff should make him insane in melee combat...but it just doesn't
His attacks aren't really insane without petrification and his defense isn't too impressive
Idk if it's just good luck but dabura's ult seems very good for getting the last hit on bosses
I would like more matches to confirm this but queuing for damage is quite the wait
Would double green wicked warrior be good on dabura?
you can't touch her when she pops full voltage even when you hit darkness spear i literally faced it in a quick battle
you want double green backstab to get your moves back faster which should last you the entire short fight
i mean i'm killing her with dabura so that's pretty good for not being able to touch em 
did she press vanishing step every time it's off cooldown? or just have full voltage?
she was vanishing a lot so prolly
obviously it wasn't a one-sided beatdown on my end, but it wasn't unwinnable since i'm actually able to kill her
like full voltage gives a higher movement speed increase then darkness spear does
I swear I press the buttons for my skills or hold down my rush attack and sometimes the game just goes nuh uh you're not doing anything
How does super start S1 feel? Having that amount of healing early
i always super start spear tbh S1 is not worth it
Yeah best case scenario for dabura is still a surprise attack or what we call an ambush inside the clouds and whatever
His best teammate so far for me is either cooler or bardock if you want to guarantee your passive working
Dabura actually functions now
.is the healing a set amount
Or do you heal more when hitting more targets
a set amount sadly so it's good for staying topped up but not much else
Yeah so maxing skill 1 dies nothing
Same build as before the lmao
i mean they have the numbers of how much it heals per level in the patch notes i thought it was per hit but nah
why don't they have it where the more Petrification Gauge they have the more the secondary effects of his moves effectiveness increase like Dooms Ray heals more, Darkness Spear gives more movement speed and Evil Flame burn effect burns longer and deals more damage?
like they clearly are moving him in a all rounder direction
Like I said earlier he's like a jack of all trades master of none in melee combat
The Demon King is respectful towards other people's orientation,as he knows that the true strongest warriors are those who know to move past bigotry.
This is exactly why I like Dabura.
Aren’t they sisters
I hc kale as bi bc I need to marry her
...THEY ARE!?
No
Nvm
They aren’t
It’s a mentor student relationship
But the anime makes it seem like kale is stupidly obsessed
Makes her look like she has a crush on caulifla
Honestly after thinking about it...his ult should work this way as well
that way if you're in a 1v2 and are at dangerous low HP the heal and the threat of potentially petrifying both of your attacks could potentially let you have a comeback
like his ult heals him? no i want it to automatically petrify if they go over the bar it's so cancer when you have like 3 people with full bar but you die before they all turn to stone because you have to clumsy rush attack one by one
Maybe dabura should just instantly petrify enemies in his domain if their petrification guage is fully filled up
I think she's desperate for approval.
Ykw killing a petrified enemy should refresh all of your skill cooldowns or at least take 4-5 seconds off of them
9/10 you're forced to use all of your skills on 1 enemy kinda like 18 in a way so I feel like having CD manipulation like this would help him in back to back fights...even if it won't do much if he's getting jumped
That's a fire idea
I also think the burn should slowly fill up petrify gauge and actually petrify if the gauge is full.
An issue i am having with dabura is that even if I fill up the gauge I cant get the spit off
Yeah either they can vanish just before you can petrify them or they run for the hills making it incredibly annoying to chase down
Dabura just boosted me to S rank
I can now confidently say that he IS the demon king that fears no mortal
idk if your joking or being serious lmao
how did you do it lmao
@earnest ridge swear your lyingh
If you check my messages/media pictures you will see
Dabura is just him alright trust
Funny enough i once bursted jackie chun fast by myself
tuff
Hey guys
Got some questions matchup wise
So we know vs kefla it’s hard asf to tak her down
So I’m wondering if into her it’s better to take build up rather than too easy.
And take on a more farming playstyle . Ofc you still show up to bosses and try to get them
I see too easy as a rly good card for early aggression
But vs kefla hard to rly do that aggression and not get rundown so maybe it’s best to go build up and scale to late when you can play around clouds easier
Also with helpers idk if the pres is even better than nail?
into kefla you might just be better off running strategic retreat or snowball if you're confident you can get kills or assists, then pair that up with steel skin and defense step or LBJ
build up is a better choice over too easy for the matchup, but in my experience i've been better running strat retreat to get away or snowball and after i get some assists i can pick her off
you can also go barrier over steel skin, just depends on the enemy team lineup
nail can be used in more situations and is overall more useful for the whole match, though pres can be great for sudden burst damage
largely depends how you play dabura
which Skill priority do you guys use on dabura?
Rn it’s skill 2 max into skill 1 then 3
Put a point in ult whenever you can
Skill 3 could be good too as well
wow, i have tried this and it felt very good, i kicked a lot of goku's butt, but sadly i lost because of soloQ's Team being always trash
i did this: S3>S1>S2>ult>S2>S1>ult>S2>S1>ult>S3>S3
i go 3, 1, 2, super, 2, reach level 8 then max spear, level up super, 3, 3, max ult, then just level up skill 1
i max 2 on super start
Shouldn't you max s1 since it fills gauge the most of all of his skills?
the amount it fills doesn't change and since you're usually close to the opponent in most confrontations the range increase doesn't matter much, it's better to max spear to lock them down, max skill 3 to keep them close and max ult because... well, it's his ult
I see
I found out that Dabura counters Bojack really hard
not many people use Bojack, but keep that in mind if you go against one
But how?
he has no options to escape
I mean he does have a slow so he’s not COMPLETELY cooked
And he could just place mines in front of him and go through them to escape
smart Daburas run Barrier, those mines do little damage due to it, Dabura can easily keep up chase with his flames slowing them down or his spears to lock down vanish and stop the flight speedboost due to the range
Well the mines aren’t meant for damage they’re just meant to hit you so you don’t get the flight boost while it is true daburas fire breath could reach them I just don’t think it’ll be enough even in superstart
can i just say dabura and cell is the best quo in the game? evil flame allows cell to get a bunch of bioenergy and cells Big Bang Crash and raid smash allow you to easily petrfy people
Bardock can bring people in with his skill 3 too
Dabura kinda sucks when vanish cooldown reduction is there
damn it we went from disscussions to this again
Start discussing something then
With that rank of yours it should be very easy to snowball with him
-Dabura-
↳ Passive: Demon's Domain
・Petrification Gauge buildup for enemy heroes within AoE decreased: Every 0.25s: 3~1 → 2~1
↳ Skill 2: Darkness Spear
・Movement Speed Boost effect when moving towards enemy heroes pierced by a spear amount adjusted:
75/100/100 → 50/75/100
Just revert these or even better add an effect where the more petrification the enemies have the more the better secondary effects are OR the more petrification the enemies have the more debuffs start to affect them like all attack down that starts at 200 and ends at 600 attack down facing him because they are focusing on evasion
Is this good if so let's vote in #📩game-feedback
are we trying to make dabura worse
no i meant to revert those changes
so basically
were trying to make dabura worse
dabura was worse before these changes
asking to revert them is making him worse
you answered my question wrong
congratulations
can you read?? Petrification Gauge buildup was faster before it was nerfed and the movement speed was higher before before the nerf i literally posted the data from the patch notes
these arrows make it seem like youre making it slower
75/100/100 → 50/75/100
same thing here
Every 0.25s: 3~1 → 2~1
this also looks like youre making it slower
the arrow points to what it will be after adjustment
and it seems as if youre making it slower
oh also
it's not my fault they displayed it like that in the notes and i meant reverting back to season 2 patch numbers
youre quoting the dabura patch from season start
like entirely
is this just a ragebait adjustment
since this is the adjustment we got
like already
youre quoting the "buff" dabura season start
this is just ragebait
🥀
so you're saying to revert that change so it's back to 75/100/100?
literally read the patch notes they literally said they decreased it
maybe im just bad at reading
did you mean to revert them back
since you said something about reverting
you couldve at least showed it with the arrows
instead of quoting the entire patch
i don't know the previous numbers they didn't show us it back then
would make him an insane anti carry lmao
honestly i just want better spears or all secondary effects from all his moves to be better as Petrification Gauge buildup increased but i know that would make him uncontrollably broken
the damage dealt down will have to go
completly
you fill you petrification bar almost completly on skill 1 and on ult so a team wide , debuff would make him too much
oh i forgot to put the all dmg dealth down debuff only against him
should i make a another post with the correction?
I think dabura would actually be good if his darkness spear lasted for 4 seconds again instead of 3 seconds
Add some backstab shenanigans and that's 8 seconds you can't vanish for when he's not repeatedly throwing it from the backlines
I'm gonna be honest
Dabura is already good
He needs only a good character in lane that helps him
And he's a monster
He does not deserve buffs
And neither nerfs
Maybe a bit of rework
But he feels good now
good at what? countering melee dps in a 1v1?
Actually was brainwashed by the jokey "dabura is top 1" memes when a single vanishing step undoes an entire perfect skill rotation and even when you catch them lacking with no vanish you have to STILL be in rush attack range To actually stone them even if you do land that his damage boost during it still doesn't cover for opponents who have greens sometimes.
This doesn't even cover him having actual trash base defense and meh HP which will melt like snow in any team fight.
I said individually yeah he's bad
But he needs someone to help him for the things he really wants
I did exaggerated that it was good
But yeah you're right
Broken 💔 and fun to use
truuue top 0 character
Well I have fun playing him
Sometimes I dominate
But now I am into topo 😊
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You know I am new to the game
Started playing 3 days ago
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New to dabura, how should i play him?
Max his fire breath first then his spears then his S1 I forgot what it’s called me personally I wouldn’t upgrade his ult
Spears disable movement so keep that in mind
And that’s it
dooms ray
What are some good cards?
build up (Too easy doesn't increase defense) solid barrier if your not good yet otherwise steel skin and backstab to get your skills back
K
Build up is too risky
Its basically forcing you into farming more when with too easy you would have more opportunities on picking off enemies
That moment when you fear no mortal https://youtu.be/aMCYvOK1y7g?si=HLudwz_FmA0GojZI




What...is going on here
buff summoning ritual 
The Demon Clan Committee
bottom 1 or 2 character in all statistical data collected by the devs btw
Yep, he's bottom 2 alright. (He's isn't number 2.)
Can someone count how many daburas are here in the discussion?
Might be wrong but 25
That's clearly wrong we have obviously posted more then 100 by now of our glorious king demon king dabura

But how many?
Do you guys feel like Dabura is a decent damage role option with all these Keflas flying around or nah?
yes
hes good everywhere
even on double vanish

he's very good except on the vanish draw and only if you have a teammate with a good boss secure
Very good is an overstatement
He isn’t dogwater impossible but still a harder dps to pull off
he's a very skill dependant character but good nonetheless
sure, you can't pick em up, play em for the first time and dominate lobbies like kefla can but if you understand his kit he can do very, very well
you can't solo carry as him since the game's a boss meta rn and he can't secure bosses, though thats where your team comes in
Cause he still needs people to help him get his passive off . 2v1 are hard to pull off . And he actually has skill shots and can miss his spears unlike half the cast
Triple boss is rly strong yeah
Recently I played him in solo
Struggled fighting vegito cause he has so much range for free to kite you
And his dashes makes it incredibly hard to stone
Even if you land spears he can still dash on minions to kite the wait time . And then you will need a second volley
And with how low hp he has and no reliable sustain . Bro needs his one combos
what cards were you running?
Basic stuff
Too easy . Gaint slayer and defense step
It was a rly bad place maybe cause he had snowball . Gaint slayer and double dash
i'd really recommend using build up instead, when i tried it i just couldn't go back to any other card, it really boosts his sustainability late-game
pair it with his s1 heal and his sustain can skyrocket
Yeah but it rly reduces your early game aggression
Cause you farm more , and you can’t run people down as easily late game cause herous are a lot stronger late game
i have not noticed this at all genuinely, either i'm getting paired up against bots 24/7 or something else is going on
Talking about kefla and uub
Herous like them
Kefla aoe and movespeed late game becomes a serious problem
Vegito as well dash range is massive
Maybe it’s skill issue 
kefla's annoying but i'd honestly say that dabura can take her by surprise so often it's kinda crazy, there are times where she just dies if you can land the spear
she can prevent you from running so ig it's a high-risk high-reward type of deal
uub is uub, he's just generally very strong and can melt most dps characters, he can take more of a beating then kefla can too
vegito can mess you up sometimes but i've never really noticed his dashes being a big issue for me, his ult on the other hand is a VERY big issue for dabura sometimes
By dashes I mean him using it to get away from you
oh i see
Since he can dash on mobs he can rly dodge your slow skill shots
yeah i could see that messing up a confirm
Yeah even with the combo if he dashes he can dodge my ult or skill 1
You think dabura could get touched next patch
Imo
Movespeed on fire hit
Skill 3 I mean
Would make dabura much much better
i've mainly only played against vegitos who are aggressive and don't really run with their dash
It’s so disgusting
I think a slight buff in health and defense is what he needs the most rn
I play vegito and people don’t rly learn to read
anytime they've ran against me i had my spear to hit em with and with the speed boost i was always able to catch up
Vegito can chase anyone anywhere rly
Especially with their ult range
Iv done horrible stuff to keflas
i'd like to see him get a little more hp and defense too tbh
I don’t think he needs a damage buff
Movespeed would be good for me lmao . I’m struggling to confirm on dps due to how people have lots of dashes
Uub vegito . Herous with mobility that spear cant cancel is horrible
honestly yeah that's what he needs
it'd make sense too since he seems like the type of character that wouldn't let you get away
He’s completely useless on vanish divine draw which sucks
You can’t kill in time even if you hit spear
My boy
Yeahhh
Dude iv been using toppo and he isn’t bad vs kefla
since i've reached A rank on everyone i just play who i want
as dps i go dabura or bojack depending on draw just cause i like how they both play
She auto hits your counter so she has to disengage
Exactly
Bojack is so bad into Bardock cause he gets on you rly easily
oh yeah for sure
I love our demon king I got top 10 on him last night
Hopefully I stay there till end of season sigh
holy moly top 10 dabura
Vegito is just a lot easier to carry on
Dabura needs you to actually combo constantly
And also know your limits
I was suprised cuz I was soloq last night and I usually duo with my brother 😭
if you need to carry your friends, maybe the problem isn't the fact you might be bad with dabura...
No one touches him
Oh no they are lowkey bad sometimes
you should get better at dabura and then get the most kills with him between your friends 
Id say go green card Dabura
what ranks are your other roles?
Barely played this season rly but
So you can get the play style down
B2 tank
The tanks I like are bad
Baby
Ss Vegeta . I rly enjoy brawl tanks
For tech
Lots of talk without dabura stickers 
I rly hate the tech meta
just play krillin
I try lmao
But I actually got perma stunned as gotenks
Into ult ham
Like I though it was a joke
But I genuinely got 100-0 stunned into a wall by a gohan with Sheild and I was dumb founded
next season you should get A4 in every role and then just get better with the demon king
(you can't go down letter ranks)
I would but tank and tech meta are very stale
Betting robin what cards do you usually use on Dabura?
Basic build rly
Too easy
he said he ran too easy, giant slayer, defense step
Tanky anti tank
I use snowballs, prepare to die, pursuer
I take double dash too if I’m facing other ults that can be dodged
But kefla and vegito ult
Good luck trying to dodge that
I tend to go safe builds unless I’m playing ranged chars
that is either the most terrifying build or the most easy build to deal with depending on the player
since you're top 10 dabura i'd probably say i'd be terrified 
I love being killed at max health by a single ult
Full damage dabura might be good
But it’s very hard to pull off cause you die like nothing
Glass Kanon
If you get caught or your team loses a fight
Yes it’s very easy to counter
If three people on you, you’re just dead
I try to stay 1v2
i think the third card on dabura is very flexible excluding guardian angel
Defense step is just too good
Cause of how busted aoe ults are rn
Like kefla ult is wayyyy too strong to not use it
Shred you like butter and it can move
is Goku 3 Ult still overpowerd and Kills Anything?
Bro I had a Kefla yesterday completely miss her ult
Thank god
Like how lol
He might i faced a good one today
He run backstab and spammed it
Damage wise though
On his big wave
It’s mid
His ult is still scary though
i was testing builds in training and i think that backstab could be very powerful on a full aggro build since you can spear someone and then spear again like 2 or 3 seconds after
i can't make use of it since i'm more defensive, but maybe you could do something with it
The fact dabura is the only melee hero with no dashes or rly good sustain tool
Ur lowkey right
But I use pursuer to js confirm
I’ll try that tho
he doesn't need dashes because he has too much aura
@clear fulcrum @lament rapids what do you max
i max spear first
after that i'd say s3, then you can decide if you want to max ult or s1 first (largely depends how confident you are in aiming your ult and how often you use it)
this is very valid too
Big damage overall
Save it when they dodge
Engage with flame then spear, wait for dodge then dooms ray
i've been considering trying that
You just wanna build that petrification
on super start would you say you should max spear or dooms ray first?
So basically
Get everything . But do you put second point in skill 3 early or late?
Cause spear lv 2 is neeeded as well to actually use it from non melee range
Don’t choose Dabura on super start
There’s so many better characters that are likely getting picked against you
i'll be choosing him because i'm a chadabura main 
18 will blow you up if you look at her funny on super start
hi as a certified dabura main
spear
Who is picking 18 on super start???
Dabur-bros we may be back with S2 cooldown divine draw
bro they are nerfing the hell out of darkness spear bro
Let me cope if kefla get to be a vanish god let me believe dabura gets to be an S2 god
Dabura skill 2 buff coming but
We might have to deal with kefla skill 2 spam
Ss4 wall spam
And Bardock taunt spam
I'm willing to bet my WHOLE LIFE bandai will nerf/rework alot of skill 2s like dabura's just like what happened in this season rn where they added this reduced cd vanish divine draw and that made them adjust the divine draws that's got something going on about vanishing
even good fat buu might get nerfed LMAO
Best way to play Dabura:
- Don't play Dabura
Reasons?
Dabura is fun when he works,but his spit is aaful
The only time I think Dabura is good is when you're facing Bardock. That's it.
Understandable
no dabura is a counter to all tanks in the game
Not rlly?
SS4 Vegeta doesn't really have a good counter to him.
It's mainly the tanks like Bardock who are designed to absorb multiple hits.
And SS4 Vegeta's "shield" move makes him invulnerable completely.
evade SSJ4 kick and he's literally a sitting duck
he can't evade the inevitable so long with shield
Even then, that doesn't really make it so Dabura specifically counters him.
If someone dodges the kick, any DPS can punish it.
none of them can kill him in 2 seconds off a punish
Well yeah, because it's SS4 Vegeta.
i meant nobody but dabura
i can't understand that at all
i can kill any character using dabura
Even vs Bardock it’s tough cause you’re not tanky enough to survive in teamfights if you don’t kill enemy dps. Bardock also does good damage on his own so by the time you kill him enemy dps have cleaned you up
they actually gave him nothing but scraps
these scraps buff him alot
dark flame finally isnt a pain to land
Did we get patchnotes?
Because I can't seem to see any balance changes anywhere
it's in game
I didn't see anything in game but suppose I can check again
it's in news
I just don't got anything there
Last thing was the Maintenance notice from yesterday
Eh, maybe my news tab is just taking awhile
Guess I'll wait till morning, ought to show up by then
Ope, wait maybe it'd help if I update squadra
???they didn't force you to update?
For some reason they didn't
But it's updated now and uh..
Yeah. I see what you mean by they gave him scraps
The buff is good.. but not what we wanted, or needed
But we will take it!
I think it’s the worst time rn
Facing the meta rn is
Rly rly rly rough
Gammas new buff is 
The damage he gets on skill 2 aoe is impossible
The true might of the demon king is about to appear
#✨game-moments message
NOW is Daburas time
He is SO good with Skill 2 CD reduction
It's not even funny, you just permanently lock their Vanish pretty much
There is NO running
Is that with or without backstab?
i thought strat escape might be good on him
but late game all skills are too big
i do S3 S1 S2 ult S2 S3 S2 ult
i also run usual card, build up, giant slayer, double vanish
if i don't use S2 first i don't get to close up people but if i use it first and unable to petrified in 2-3 sec then it all for a waste
so clearly the idea here is to not initiate with S2
replace double vanish with backstab
Without backstab, but Backstab would be great
Ok dabura with elder kai in game truly seems nuts
You can take defensive step then just pop down the helper
when you're in a 1v2
Or repeatedly use skills on boss
Dabura useful on boss finally
elder kia is alr but imo
range is wayy too smal for dabura to use
its simply a walk away from it and they lose all value ttype of stuff
but still good aginst boss
Also I'd imagine it's good for pushing G.O.D's
Getting your skills back faster has ought to help out
I love dabura
So god goku can shoot people from afar with skill 2.... every new update that's been added, it just makes it harder for our demon king to spit on people.
Best cards for Dabura right now?
Build up, steel skin and Backstab
I mostly agree, but I personally don't use Backstab
then how do you 100% get stone spit?
Skill 2, Skill3, Rush for a moment, Skill 1, then they should be about full
I also like to push and keep a bit of guage on the people on my lane
They should be low enough by that point that rush attacks can finish them off, but in the situation they still have too much health:
The Elder Kai fix that for me
I personally run Pursuer instead of backstab
The speed & damage boost you get from it, plus the speed boost from hitting an enemy with your spears makes it almost impossible for them to run
I force them to fight
Only issues with this strategy would be if more teamates appear, but I have some faith that my teamates will help me in these situations
Almost all of the meta tanks right now have ways to support me
Also I've now reached the top 500 for Dabura, so I'll need to adjust my goal a small amount, maybe towards top 100?
i personally use build up, giant slayer and defense step
(i got to top 150 dabura with this)
elder kai fixes the spear issue
so theres not much point using backstab
Hm
Honestly sounds pretty fun
I'll probably stick to my normal setup for my ranked grind though
Might try it for fun later though
I heard dabura was bad back then
how is he now?
last time I played was like season 2
is he better now
he's actually decent now, he's not meta but he's definitely viable still
if you aim your spears right, he can be extremely deadly, especially on the lowered s2 cooldown
you won't be picking him up and carrying lobbies but if you put a little bit of time into him the demon king can treat you very well 
oh
what got changed?
at the start of last season he got nerfed hella hard but near the end he got buffed, and got a minor buff this season
basically what changed is his s1 now heals him whenever he gets a hit off on it along with the damage being increased and his super comes out really, really fast and it also fills up 70% of his gauge
this season his s3 got a increase in burn damage and something with his speed got buffed too
he's VERY dependent on his spear and he can't really secure bosses, but he can still do a lot in the right hands
oh yeah what's his skill priority and cards?
He's pretty good in veggie battle.
Level 3 evil flame takes care of whole bunches of cabbages, and he can spit on people easier too and beat them!
I even got mvp using him!
Now if only if he was this good in standard battle...
his evil flame turn speed got increased
Most Dabura's would agree that Skill priority for him goes S2 -> S3 -> S1
As for card combos there's a few variations that people use
Build Up, Solid Barrier, Backstab.
Build Up, Solid Barrier, Pursuer.
Build Up, Giant Slayer, Defense Step.
Build Up, Solid Barrier, Defense step
Any of these should do you well, I'd also recommend you start using Dabura with the new helper this season, Elder Kai
As he can reduce skill cooldowns while inside his zone, making it easy to spam skills for whatever needs you may have
Be it killing a petrified enemy, spamming Bursts on an enemy G.O.D, or just to deal significant damage on a boss by yourself
I completely forgot you can turn while firing Evil Flame
???????????????
Unfortunately as a mobile player it's a pain to use any move that can redirect after being fired
Stationary Evil Flame gets the job done most the time, jist have to try and predict where they'll be before I before so that I can get the most damage off
U play mobile?
Respect
Unfortunately my Computer bricked before the network test even happened so, this is the only way I can play
ty
No problem, now go out there and petrify some people!
It took me weeks to learn how to redirect final shine
Ohio impressed
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i can feel the coping in the text lol a fellow enjoyer of the demon kings power
DRAGONBALL
GEKISHIN
SQU4DRA
DABURA EDITION
Season 4.
⚠️Caution⚠️
What follows is solely Kobayashi's opinion. I will write based on my past experiences, so I welcome any disagreements.
- Dabura's Role
Dabura is mediocre in every way, but even he has things he can do.
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He can generally counter tanks.
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His petrification ability can stop opponents trying to break him with their bodies.
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He's effective against those unfamiliar with Dabura, and also against those who know him (?).
That's a rough overview, but he's not completely useless in the current meta.
- Dabura's Playstyle
Overall, his playstyle remains the same in terms of basic damage and movement. The only difference is that his objectives are weak.
Season 4 saw changes to farm spawns. I've recently been going to the lower lane.
The reason is that I can pressure tanks while taking the center lane.
With the environment allowing tech tanks to reach Lv13, you really don't want to be level-out ahead.
If his first ability hits at the base, it deals around 991 + 441 damage in the early game.
You can secure the last hit when the enemy has one bar of health remaining. Remember that stepping up makes the first ability activate much faster.
In the mid and late game, focus on tower defense while observing the board (number and position of enemies).
You don't need to touch the objectives, but you can still punish the enemy, so fight them.
If an immediate rush sniper comes, just give up.
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Skill Upgrades
I usually take skills in the order of 1, 3, 2, 4, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4, 4, 1, 1. When Super Star comes up, take skill 3. It's strong. (I'm certain.)
Even if skill 2 cooldown reduction comes up, prioritize skill 3. The ability to finish off kills with burn is very strong. (I'm certain.) -
About Kami-Awakening
I often change it depending on the situation, so it's too much trouble to write it all here. I'll add more little by little.
Personally, my favorites are Escape, Immediate Rush, and Defense Step. Escape improves survival rate, Immediate Rush allows for finishing off with skill 1 and skill 3, and Defense Step is undeniably good.
For Dabura users who are struggling, <Build, Giant Kill, Defense Step> is a good choice.
- Summary
Dabura has become a joke character because I kept using him despite constantly saying he was weak, but he's actually quite strong, as he can counter Defense Step and has received some subtle buffs. While it depends on the user, his petrification is powerful.
I intend to continue using Dabura as long as he doesn't get nerfed. For now, I want to beat up those who look down on him with Dabura. Everyone should use Dabura!
Dabura found dead next to gotenks in a dark alleyway






a counter for godgeta tbh
i am not joking btw he relies on his skill 2 to make a self sustain armor refresh and he pulls in which is where dabura wants to be to directly cut off his infinite armor refresh
i know petrify stops his momentum so he doesnt get time to build then hes bursted down
Toppo/Dabura stocks are going up by fighting characters who actually want to fight close range
He's a bit of a counter but Godgeta just desperately needs to be nerfed
The ONLY way I can properly fight one of these bastards is if we jump him
and even then he can still be a problem to kill
He's a testament to how bad the balancing in this game really is
this helped a lot ty.
also is Immediate rush meant to be the card with broly on it?
because it's called Prepare to Die! on english
oh ight
also I tried your cards and leveled S3 mainly instead of S2 and got 2 burn kills in a match
always thought burn was irrelevant ngl
burn is quite important
I'm leveling up in S2 and S3.
It's fine to leave S1 at level 1.
ight
do you use elder kai too as the helper?
or someone else
Old Kai
ight ty
am I missing something
why is godgeta just
tanking a entire petrification for like no damage
The fighting spirit gauge is most likely the cause of the problem.
Once his gauge is full, avoid fighting him until his gauge is depleted.
oh ok
gonna go read what it does again lol
ty

what does dabura want to do in the big fights
I get confused on what to do since it's hard to just focus 1 guy due to other enemies
just keep flaming and throwing spears
any debuff or vanish removal can help the team out
even a ult if their at half gauge can stone em
ty
also what do we do about kefla
kefla seems like a character I can't really do much about unless I land spear
the only other thing you can do is ult or use flame if it's level 3 maybe
saad...
i try not to engage with her at all unless im forced too or have backup
i reallly hate going against her in general
Yo Dabura together with God Vegeta is crazy.

sad
oh man I was really sleeping on his ult
it's actually really good wth
my brain is still stuck in the beta and season 1 where it was actually bad
What's the best time to use it?
I can never seem to get picks w iy
It
for me so far it's been team fights
and sometimes early game when you really need it to secure a kill
it's moreso there so you're threatening petrification on multiple people for me atm
so you can dismantle the enemy team one by one
I honestly forget this character actually does damage sometimes
cause my eyes are glued to the petrification gauge so much
that might be part of why the ult feels good
because I don't use it for damage I use it for petrification (outside of low hp enemies)
i feel like a neat lil buff for dabura would be to change his spears to inflict high pressure instead
yes but would be absoulely busted
given the other broken stuff in the game i think its fine





For Dabura's play style, how do you usually play him in games literally? Do you try to sneak up on enemies and kill them or do you play a very direct "in your face" approach? I've been playing him and he's VERY strong. But i end up losing games because i don't know whether to keep playing super in people's faces or to try and sneak around
I often hide in the bushes and fight from there.
Gotcha, i'll play more scaredy and sneaky then
How do you deal with keflas then? Do you just run?
Also, I saw that you saved your ult for after you petrified godgeta, does ult after petrification pretty much one shot them? So would it be better to use ult to engage or better to save it to kill once petrified?
Keflas did not fight until he activated his S2.
Depending on the situation, I often use special moves to defeat enemies.
I've come under a new very challenging problem... how do you deal with super saiyan god goku? I just completely melt when i face him in the same lane
Do i just farm exp and try to play around him?
God Goku is my toughest opponent. Lately, I've been avoiding battles and just collecting items from the back while fighting the Supreme Kai in the middle.
That method is fine in the initial stages.
If you win the level battle, you can defeat the tank and then target God Goku.
That's what i did in one of my games against god goku. It's a shame my teamate rage quit after i lost the first encounter 💀
Another character, how do you handle specifically broly's ult? Do you just not engage until he's used it?
Also, did you get to S rank on your own? Or did you have to team up with other people? Because I swear these teamates are actually impossible to play with...
I had a daima goku and a zamasu, and their sum total damage contribution was almost the same as mine... 
ULT depends on how much damage reduction the enemy has of it's bardock your wasting it because his passive deletes 70 of the hit so you use spear > ULT either skill 1 or skill 3 then get your damage in that way SAVE YOUR SKILL 2 FOR WHEN STONE IS ABOUT TO RUN OUT
I sometimes get an S rank playing solo, but I generally play in a party.


That makes sense, I can’t imagine ranking up alone only carrying with dabura

Wish I had a decent dabura main on my team when I'm playing another dps there's been this one guy who locks him in instantly when he's on my team getting kill hungry never focuses on boss so we got triple ko'd and he never helps defend tower against vegeta either
Around the end they just throwed themselves into 1v3s and got obliterated then pinged like we was suppose to follow them

what's the best way to grab bosses with dabura
is it really just dropping elder kai and attempting to speed blitz them with skill spam
cause ult feels too weak compared to like, everyone else
you really shouldn't be grabbing bosses as dabura, that's not what he's for, you can help with bosses and pick off any secures but if you're the sole person trying to grab boss, pack it up since y'all are most likely cooked
if you have to grab boss, your best bet is spamming moves with kai or doing something like spear, flame, s1, spear and then ult or just begin using m1, you're not going to be good at securing but you'll still be doing great damage and maybe, just maybe, you'll be lucky and the enemy team won't notice you're melting jaco
the only boss that i'd say avoid trying to grab solo is ribrianne unless she's already in her transformed state
if you're tryna steal the boss thats already low, i recommend either ult or flame
thanks
so should I mainly try to keep people away from the boss instead







ngl now that i know what im doin dabura is mad fun


I’m gonna ruin it cause I’m no fun





my fellow dabura mains i regret to inform you i just had a dabura teammate use snowball, giant slayer limit breaking jump





btw i got top 500 in it as the demon king
i went in as any but still got 7 games on dps to play dabura
top 17 btw





