Zamasu

[hoary pine]

Rildo is your only means of entrapment so it feels necessary

[vague temple]

i personally enjoy just owning that middle kai

[hoary pine]

Not taking the damage > reducing the damage also

[vague temple]

thanks to the cell jr’s and kai i can get my gauge back faster

[whole torrent]

I like running around a lot more so personally for me Rildo works best but anchoring you def want cabba on Zamasu

[vague temple]

also top 31 zamasu i see

im currently only rank 117

im trying to get top 100 bare minimum

[whole torrent]

Indeed, prolly morso in top 50s now haven't checked in like 2 or so days

[vague temple]

ah

[whole torrent]

I also mostly want top 100s tho

[vague temple]

same

[whole torrent]

Top 10 is too annoying to try and keep up with unless you suddenly get a god game

[vague temple]

honestly

its insane

how does score even work btw

[whole torrent]

Overall stats and for Zamasu it also relies a lot on regen

[vague temple]

so js pray for a long ahh match

[whole torrent]

That or get in many fights while keeping Gague up

[vague temple]

damn near impossible cause the gauge sucks without npc

[whole torrent]

Imo not too hard to get high regen cuz NPCs are very prominent and easy to get

[indigo condor]

Do people not commit mass genocide of npcs in your lobbies? Like i have teams where they constantly kill every npc on sight even if they're as far back as spawn 💀

It's so bad that i'm forced to remember time stamps of when npcs are due for spawning otherwise they might just go extinct next time i blink

[whole torrent]

Not too much really only late game when we're doing really good

I remember time stamps by instinct so I can always have the first jump on my gague

[marble sun]

1 god match, you just have to brawl. The best results is with superstart cuz zamasu's s3 just dominates early game, its how i got top 16

[gentle crag]

I go for 3 greens with guardian angel if my ally is good damager.

Otherwise build up and 2 red

Or snowball.

?

I rather focus on enemy first by making my s3 level 2.

[vague temple]

i personally use defensive step just to be able to hold out a tad bit longer

till my teammate returns

[whole torrent]

Defensive Step or Pursuer is 100% the way to go imo

[vague temple]

100%

pursuer has been really fun to take against dabura players

punishes their agreesiveness

he stoned and ulted me but i passived and i damn near one shot him

[whole torrent]

Pursuer is if they enemies dont push on feeds too hard and for easier finishes while defensive is for that extra survivability

[vague temple]

mhm

[whole torrent]

Yeah I love popping a s3 then an ult on unsuspecting enemies

[vague temple]

its hilarious

[whole torrent]

The pursuer with max ult is mean

[vague temple]

it’s genuinely nasty

and i love it

i wish his s2 was like any good

i barely ever use it other then to get people off bosses

or make them force miss and ult like uub or dragon fist

[whole torrent]

Its overall quite good if it hits but its so slow. It does overall do lots of damage especially with the s2 buff card

[vague temple]

oh 100%

but it being so slow can leave you open

[whole torrent]

Agreed 100%

Next season im hoping it gets a bit of a buff plus maybe his gague can create armor like a max gekishin or maybe even his s2 gives like a temporary 50% damage reduction which can stack to 70% after hitting max stacks like his s3 does with DOT

[vague temple]

or his gauge actually goes up when against enemies

[whole torrent]

That too, he just needs a bit more survivability imo everything else is pretty good for him

[spare valve]

Something really conservative like more gauge generation on enemy players, would be best. I just want him having the longevity to compete in end game

[vague temple]

100%

[whole torrent]

His longevity is just too little compared to that mean damage he has late game imo

[spare valve]

Exactly my point

[whole torrent]

Like that damage is insane but his survivability is so mid overall, one of the dumbest in damage tanks imo

[stable schooner]

3 second cd DOT

it's peak

[whole torrent]

That also stacks up to 4 times and if not regened does half a bar of hp iirc

[mental zinc]

superstart is zamasu nightmare

[whole torrent]

Not if you're actually good as Zamasu lol, you're their nightmare instead then

Like tbh if you struggle as Zamasu of all people with super start you genuinely just suck as him

He is overall the best start of game character

[indigo condor]

That moment when ultimate gohan goes bottom lane with ss4 vegeta bottom lane… 💀

[whole torrent]

Yeah that'll ruin literally anyone

[indigo condor]

You know, even without ss4 I feel like just fighting ultimate gohan on superstart would actually ruin zamasu completely

And I know it’s so sooooo rare to find ultimate gohan on bottom lane, but god the few times it does happen 😤🤬

[whole torrent]

Eh if you hit the DOT and dodge well he does fine

[graceful gulch]

did you know? attacking enemies with zamasus skills fills the regeneration gauge more than if you killed them with rush attacks

[whole torrent]

Yes everyone who plays Zamasu does but its only for.feeds

[stable schooner]

so like

grass is green

[graceful gulch]

I meant npc

I’m just doing loading screen tips

[mental zinc]

evil zamasu player be like: priority S2

[round grotto]

Zamasu’s regen bar should be darkened when revival is not possible and bright as it currently is, when charged

[whole torrent]

It does do that alr but isnt too noticable

[marble sun]

It used to be better in multi when they made it obvious

But for some reason they removed it

[whole torrent]

Yeah which is weird

[tulip ravine]

😘

[round grotto]

Does zamasu’s ult not trigger off for anyone? Idk what would do it? Gohan?

I think it cancels out often for me and I haven’t spotted the consistency factor yet

[indigo condor]

^

I’d also like to know more specifics on zamasu ult, I thought immune to all makes it so that you don’t take damage while zamasu ult is falling

Does it stop working if your health goes down to 0 in the instant you popped ult and the ult hasn’t yet fallen to the ground?

[marble sun]

stun fron an ult or dying

[round grotto]

Gotta be

[tulip ravine]

tips: if zamasu's ult cancelled by any action, ult CD be half

[tulip ravine]

Immediately after activation, you will gain resistance to some CC attacks (without god of destruction area push, vegeta 4 ult and gamma ult), and after falling to the ground, you will be able to nullify all CC attacks and damage for a certain period of time. (google translation)

[stable schooner]

zamasu's ULT is as mid as it gets

it gets worse when you compare it to other bad ults

like dabura and majin buu

even baby

yet three of these ults have one thing in common they are all decently appropriate for their ULT casting

zamasu does not

and apart of his SUPERBLY buns startup

everybody can escape his slow

and he takes too much time to move to utilize it

just use it as a execution or a way to help your team catch up on somebody if you have it maxed out

[tulip ravine]

happy new year zamasu😘 🎉

[urban flare]

what order would you guys recommend i upgrade zamasu's skills cause i'm stuck in C2 and i feel like i'm not playing Zamasu to his full potential

[marble sun]

s3->s1->ult->s2

[thorny storm]

What cards do you guys run on Zamasu? I like the idea of his regeneration gauge but I don’t play him much.

[spare valve]

Build Up/Barrier or Steel/Pursuer

"It just works" - Todd Skyrim

[stable schooner]

build up, steel skin, lbj got me top 38 zamasu

[marble sun]

build up steel skin lbj/defense step

[thorny storm]

What’s the play style of Zamasu cus I used those cards but late game I was pretty much immortal but I don’t feel like I had much impact.

[fallen ibex]

you slow down enemies for allies and stack your bleed when it is off cooldown either use your ult to steal the boss or trap enemies in the AOE slow near a wall so they have to go through it

[indigo condor]

I didn’t know zamasu at lvl 13 and buildup could straight up survive the gamma’s suicide thing

Now granted I was at 1 hp but I didn’t need to use my regen to survive the explosion, zamasu is tanks as hell damn

[spare valve]

Swap LBJ for Pursuer then

[whole torrent]

Thats personally my favorite cards for Zamasu because its literally just pure tanky, I still do great damage with the DOT but tank well

[tulip ravine]

💕

[marble sun]

Wrong thread man

[gentle crag]

NPCs*

[gentle crag]

I priorities s3 and s2.

[gentle crag]

Depends. Pros for sure but ults of those you mentioned serve to fullfill their role.

Dabura's for filling the gauge and doing some damage

Buu for heal and obstructing

Zamasu for doing 0 : 1 ratio damage. Aka he recieves 0 damage while enemy recieves one.

Where it is also a safety measure

He may get slow startup but he ignores everything

[stable schooner]

its all lackluster

[gentle crag]

It is fine.

And balanced unlike broly

[whole torrent]

Do NOT prioritize S2 ts is mid

Always prioritize S3 and S1 both have actual great uses

[whole torrent]

I personally disagree, its a good ult overall. It has range, does solid damage, it slows anyone in range which typically always happens or finishes them

It also is great for stealing a boss or Kai from enemies as it is best used for engaging, finishing low enemies off, or blocking incoming damage when times right

It has all you really want in a tank like his' ult

[tulip ravine]

skill issue😂

[gentle crag]

Nah, s2 and s3 best

[whole torrent]

How do you think so hm? His s2 is slow and quite lackluster even when maxed it does solid damage but is still very slow to wind up. It also has a relatively high CD

I even say this as a top 100-200 Zamasu (haven't checked in a bit so idk if top 100 anymore)

[indigo condor]

i feel like s2 is only good when s2 damage up is a thing

[gentle crag]

good for stealing and stuff

I like it

[indigo condor]

Exactly its amazing for stealing kais... only when s2 damage up is a thing... lol

[gentle crag]

or pushing away people from kais

again, matter of skill

[indigo condor]

If all you're doing is pushing people from kais... i still think its a crap ability. Not a question of skill

[gentle crag]

can catch up to people but yes it is balanced skill in comparison to Ultimate Gohan's S2

[indigo condor]

Like s1 at lvl1 has terrible range, but i'd still prefer the slow over the lunge

[gentle crag]

I go for S3 cuz aoe

and 3s cooldown

[indigo condor]

Yeah i do s3 and s1

except on s2 damage up, that's the only time i max out s3 and s2 first and then s1 at the end

[gentle crag]

I do S3 and whatever I feel like.

S2 damage up I use vegeta.

[indigo condor]

Honestly s2 damage up on zamasu is quite the menace, it does enough damage to kill 2-3 little bars of hp and it's perfect for killing someone that thought they were safe in their gods lmao

[whole torrent]

Fair but its overall still really lackluster compared to the other moves, its best for you to prioritize helping your team secure kills and be annoying instead of securing kills for yourself and stealing for yourself. Zamasu isn't made to be extremely selfish like SSJ Vegeta or Cooler hes made to prevent escape and make enemies focus on trying to take him out while you teammates take them out or even boss out

[gentle crag]

I know

[unborn vault]

Hi so I have been considering playing zamasu again, which divine card combo is the best for him? And which skills do I upgrade first? I understand the divine rush move isn't in priorities?

[marble sun]

S3>S1>ult>S2

However with the card changes i would hold off on deciding anything as the cards need to be tested

[unborn vault]

Alright

So the usual? Build up or snowball with barrier and lbj?

[marble sun]

Id go with his s2 build, build up steel skin lbj/ defense step for now

But that 1st card is probably gonna be changed

Bc of build up nerfs

[unborn vault]

Oh ok, sorry I kinda skipped the reveals, did like the upcoming characters

[unborn vault]

Wouldn't it be better if he had a damage card too? I mean he is a tank

Just curious

[marble sun]

Not really, he is a tank for a reason

If you find the need to do dmg either you're playing him wrong or your dps are trash

[indigo condor]

My dps are usually trash 😭

And that’s why I go giant slayer and pursuer on him

I only go full defense build if it seems like the enemy team does too much damage or my dps are good and I’m useless other than soaking up damage

[unborn vault]

Ok

[spare valve]

For Zamasu I'd suggest Pursuer instead of a Green card

Until they let us generate gauge on enemy heroes I am just not using Guardian Angel

[unborn vault]

Isn't the lbj better?

[spare valve]

Why would it be?

It's nice, he's slow, but without Pursuer he has no real threat to him

[unborn vault]

Well I mean it feels like it will help you escape

Ah I see

Alright then

Why not use super snowball?

Just curious

[spare valve]

Build Up

[unborn vault]

Alright

[spare valve]

Snowball's not good when your goal is to be the frontline

[unborn vault]

Ah

Man zamasu seems pretty underated

[marble sun]

Just did some testing, after build up nerfs he can still run it tbh bc of his farming ability, having the most success with buildup giant slayer defense step but i am trying art of decoy/steel skin too

[unborn vault]

Huh

I have build up steel and pursuer

[marble sun]

Pursuer is pretty useless

[unborn vault]

Got it

[marble sun]

Its a flat dmg number just added on

So it really isnt worth when his main dmg is from his stacking bleed at max s3

[unborn vault]

Alright

[whole torrent]

I disagree, he has a threat to him without it but pursuer ups that threat A LOT

If you use ult

Otherwise its okay

Ult pursuer is mean but aside from that its fine

[spare valve]

I was being a bit exaggerative, but for real Pursuer just helps him be a detterent. I still think it's one of his best 3rd cards

[whole torrent]

I can agree with that, it can become a massive detterent overall if you use it effectively

[spare valve]

I've been using Zammy for my climb to A, what cards you liking?

i'm currently using Build Up/Steel Skin/Pursuer

[whole torrent]

Im liking that or Build Up, Steel Skin, and Defense step just to purely annoy the enemies with my survivability

[spare valve]

Step is funny, but I've just had Pursuer do some heavy lifting when I follow up S3 with Ult

[indigo condor]

Idk about you guys but when the enemy team is running a comp with a bunch of stuns I almost never even get a chance to vanish step 😭

I see no point of even running it if I can’t even vanish in the first place, god damn ulthan/cell/ssj4 vegeta

[indigo condor]

And yeah I agree, I’ve definitely caught a lot of ssj3’s lacking cuz they to in thinking they can 1v1 me with their ult and they just get destroyed cuz pursuer on ult cuts their health by half

[split grove]

ngl I'm kinda having success getting an immediate level 2 S3, it's DoT, and you can spam it hella fast.

[fallen ibex]

Pursuer boost his dot damage?

[split grove]

Oh, idk about that. I just like the level 2 S3 starting the game

[stable schooner]

zamasu:

give me 100k damage inflicted
give me 100k damage taken
give me high deaths/kills
and I will still spam my s3

my day one tank main ❤️

[tulip ravine]

im zamasu

[marble sun]

U got lvl 10?

[tulip ravine]

still 30k/60k lol

i got 2.2k tank rate with zamasu soloq

only 41 wins

so i dont need to match many times

[whole torrent]

I have way more than that pretty sure

I have 125 wins in all on him

[tulip ravine]

41 wins is in s3

i have total 820+ wins with zamasu

[whole torrent]

I haven't played much Zamasu yet

Was focused on trying vegito

[tulip ravine]

😢

dont forgot zamasu

[whole torrent]

I wont hes my king

Im like top 100 or 1000 again as him alr

Lemme check

Number 20 rn

[sleek kindle]

Ngl, Snowball Giant Slayer and Backstab helps me a lot over Solid Barrier

[sleek kindle]

Spamming his S3 with Backstab is way too fun

[marble sun]

Damn u closing that gap tho, u gonna get there soon

[tulip ravine]

😘

[analog badger]

why there arent the legendary emotes of zamasu? it could retourn??

[whole torrent]

They just brought it back yet for some reason

havent*

[delicate grove]

I managed to grab the intro one personally. Pretty swag all things considered.

[fallen ibex]

Do you still have yours? Mine vanished some time after vegito dropped I never noticed because I haven't played him since yesterday.

[delicate grove]

If you mean “Divine Descent” then yes.

[burnt goblet]

You can summon for everyone else's epic animation, except for za-may-Zoo, what a shame :(

At least I managed to get the mvp and taking out the trash tho.

[whole torrent]

No legendary intro in rotation either

[whole torrent]

You lucky guy I still need that finisher

[marble sun]

I dont have a single epic or legendary for him😭

[sly rock]

lucky you

i needed that

[tulip ravine]

zamasu is never die😘

[burnt goblet]

Zamasu had quite the comeback didn't he?

[pseudo belfry]

he‘s really good in super start

[sly rock]

but my boi is so forgotten

they should give him more love

all tanks stuns now except for him and baby

still tho he's no match for the other tanks

[fluid fulcrum]

Can SSJ Vegeta even stun?

[whole torrent]

No lol

Best he does is pull you in

[sly rock]

nerfed, but still stuns in the wall

[marble sun]

Ssj not ssj4

[sly rock]

oops sorry lol

yeah no he doesnt stun, i forgot about him

[warm torrent]

Yo is zamasu the only character with a good automatic divine card build?

[sly rock]

Super Saiyan Vegeta

he's good too

[warm torrent]

I just thought of a good buff for zamasu
Rush Attack: extends the duration of own Continuous Damage stacks

It'll let him do some more serious bleed stacks but he won't be insane if he gets paired with daima goku

[sly rock]

i think it would be good if they buff his s2 with a stun if hit into a wall

of all stun tanks, none of them has a reason to stun except for Cooler

Zamasu stunning the enemy into a wall makes sense for me, Goku Black did it on Goku back in the anime

[warm torrent]

Plus his S2 is a dodge-able windup unlike ssj4 vegeta while being less wide

[sly rock]

they just made out of nowhere and added buffs with no logic nor sense to the character

like making everyone running away from Ultimate Gohan with "fear"

the toughest enemies having "fear"

would Broly canonically have fear from someone for example?

[sly rock]

yess

[warm torrent]

I think it would be the first acceptable 2 seconds stagger since it won't be free to pull off with it's windup time

[sly rock]

exactly

also the continuous damage stacks should be really buffed too fr

[warm torrent]

Should the bleed do more DoT since I feel like it may be too powerful if he does get buffed where his rush attack sustains the stacks

Oh tho 1 thing zamasu really needs is immune to all during the entirety of his ultimate

[sly rock]

that is a required buff for such unpopular and weak tank compared to the others, in my opinion

in S rank i dont see anyone playing as Zamasu for that reason

the probability of losing the match is higher than using other tank

and i saw that in practice

[warm torrent]

How much tick damage does he do rn?

[sly rock]

nothing much, pretty low damage from that stack

but the stacks are good when using 5 snowballs

Zamasu is very mid overall

in damage, i say

he doesnt inflict too much damage but not too little

he's way better with snowball, he can recover his HP from his bar and killing NPCs around + damage power overall from snowball

but still weak and stoppable

[fallen ibex]

Continuous Damage already refreshes itself and stacks if you hit the move again

[whole torrent]

He alr does that with his s3 lol and its nutty

[whole torrent]

They're great as is, literally shred like mad alr if you actually continously refresh the continuous damage

[sly rock]

but they gone fast

it should keep a little more

[whole torrent]

One of the easiest skills to ever hit tho??? Literally massive AOE and Zamasu is a tank so he can be up close

[sly rock]

i said the effect goes away fast

[fallen ibex]

it goes away like 2 seconds after the skill comes back plenty of time to reapply it

[sly rock]

yeah ik, thats why i think its still fast, and im talking about the duration of the effect while not using s3 again

[whole torrent]

The point of the skill is to use it to replenish the CD its supposed to seem fast

Its like wishing SSJ4s ult didnt push even though thats the point of it

[tulip ravine]

im zamasu

[zenith cedar]

I think Zamasu is the only character that can still run build up since his kit encourages attacking multiple npcs.

[tulip ravine]

zamasu with build up is not best now

[sly rock]

yes

[tulip ravine]

im zamasu king

😘

[sudden meadow]

Is Zamasu still meta

[marble sun]

He was only meta in the beta, hes very strong on super start tho

[mossy beacon]

Should I use a more offensive build with him? Like, he already has the defense.

[sudden meadow]

Mhm perfect needed somebody to prove my point, super start zamasu is very good

[sudden meadow]

Honestly i think cards depend alot on your game style, do you prefer being more of an damage dealer or having a high defense

[marble sun]

It comes down to how good your team is, if you need to deal damage or not

If your dps arent doing dmg i would switch to a dps build

Smt like snowball gs ds

[sly rock]

using defense up card makes no difference at all with Zamasu as it was in my experience

the best first card i've found better for him is snowball for sure

[sudden meadow]

I never used defensive Zamasu like total green so mhm

yeah

[whole torrent]

I feel like using Steel Skin makes a difference but nothing else

[sly rock]

it's not even considerable

[warm torrent]

Omg the super dragon balls finally kicked in...Zamasu's immortal!

The zero mortals plan continues now!
https://youtu.be/hNYNEN-XsOU?si=-5IqH-o0lCJ-9rMg

[tulip ravine]

im zamasu king and zamasu be true god😭

🛐

[warm torrent]

I don't have to fight my allies to fill my regen guage anymore

All hail zamasu

[sly rock]

i dont get it

[tulip ravine]

lol

[stable schooner]

TOSHI.

TOSHI TOSHI TOSHI TOSHI.

YOU BEAUTIFUL MAN

[delicate grove]

We are finally immortal. Slows, Divine Arrow Stocks, more regen gauge.

[fallen ibex]

why did they give him ANOTHER SLOW when Heavenly Arrow literally just got another stock?

[blissful portal]

The joke is that allies act like NPCs

[whole torrent]

To make Zamasu even more annoying to run away from

Also another heavenly arrow stock is goated

[blissful portal]

He needs it

[blazing swallow]

buffs were not enough, standards are low here

[blissful portal]

He is now playable in other game mods

[sharp ravine]

Holy

Zamasu is lowkey busted cause wtf

He has so much damage

[sly rock]

WOOOOW finally my boi is buffed

we are going to reclaim a world with an undisturbed beauty with this buff

[fallen ibex]

again you get 2 uses out of Heavenly Arrow Divine rush needed a actual different use like bonus damage if you hit the sweet spot they could have gave it all attack down like buu

[blazing swallow]

does he get the 50% gauge fill when reviving from his passive? if so then these buffs are ok

[sharp ravine]

No he doesn’t

Cause that would be broken and he would be unkillable

[blissful portal]

if he did he would be unable to die

[sharp ravine]

But dude is strong asf

Fighting him as a tank rn

Dude has so much damage it’s crazy

And slows too

Pushing past him is impossible

[blissful portal]

Yeah once I get to B4 with dps im trying zamasu

[sharp ravine]

Honest feeling he is ss4 teir now

Maybe slightly lower cause

He just won’t die now

[nova geyser]

zamasu is cheating! gohan and buu!

[blissful portal]

What?

[blazing swallow]

i guess 50% would be a little too much, but some gauge would be good

the 50% gauge fill on respawn isnt that huge since building the gauge didnt take that long

unless your team completely wipes all npcs

[blissful portal]

Nah I can see the value

Late game holds,for instance

[eternal aurora]

anyone tried zamasu after the buffs?

[hoary pine]

First game #✨game-moments message

Too easy giant slayer defensive step

I can also see pursuer easily

[sly rock]

nahh it wouldnt

[sharp ravine]

It would lead to bro being able to chain revives off

He is already annoying to kill cause he takes a while

[sly rock]

he's literally useless when revived, it's like you're saying that he would kill everyone rushing into the dragon shell from his team

when all of your towers are killed and the enemies are trying to take the dragon ball, Zamasu will be killed like a worm so easily because of his regen gauge at 0

they should make him revived with 50% of his gauge

[sly rock]

to prevent from things like this that happens almost every time

and he's a tank, he's supposed to take the front when they are all rushing on your base

but how to tank them if you're going to get jumped in no time?

all at once attacking you

[sly rock]

that's the wayy

my boy deserves this

[sly rock]

last season I challenged myself to get to S rank only using Zamasu and I did it

just when the season came out

[whole torrent]

I disagree, divine rush just needed a use in general. He was great as is but this buff makes him perfect

[whole torrent]

Oh I did the same before, was fun and easy

[whole torrent]

I will agree, he is kinda meh when revived. I think he at least needs invulnerability when reviving

[fallen ibex]

no it just means the enemy team can punch him a little while he's in that stupid revive animation and he consumes his revival/regen Gauge and he can't revive anymore

[sharp ravine]

which is still annoying cause bosses in the game die so fast so if zamasu suicides to buy his team time its gonna take longer to just burn him down

[fallen ibex]

it means he can buy his team time like a actual tank and can actually take attention away from his squishy mortals otherwise he can keep coming back like the anime

[feral briar]

What cards for Zam?

[whole torrent]

Personally I use Snowball, Steel Skin, and Defensive step but Snowball, Giant Slayer, and Defensive step works nicely too

[sly rock]

same

fun and easy too, lol

[whole torrent]

Though more recently its been a lot harder, hoping once I play him after this buff he can dominate even more than before like I want

[silver iron]

At least he’s not cell

[hoary pine]

#✨game-moments message

He feels pretty amazing rn

[whole torrent]

Fire

[whole torrent]

Glad he never has been

[hoary pine]

Cell is the Dabura of tanks

Except Dabura is getting better

[sly rock]

yeah he needs something else imo, I lost the count of how many times I died trying to defend the dragon ball and being wiped out so fast because there wasn't any Supreme Kai nor NPCs to kill and increase my regen gauge to hold enemies off

[next harbor]

is zamasu now bardock tier?

[sly rock]

oh so you guys were saying about his instant revive when killed...

I thought it was about when revived after cooldown from base

[sly rock]

I use the same ones, it's the best for him

[sly rock]

I agree, but this time I think I will grind to get a top 100 place or else

at least with this new buff

[whole torrent]

I was top 100 before buff but gotta catch back up again

[sly rock]

good luck, wipe all these mortals

🫡

[whole torrent]

I plan to, I gotta show my godly might even though its been a good 2 weeks since I last played

[sly rock]

it's been some weeks since i last played as Zamasu too

gonna get back with all my power from the gods

[whole torrent]

In general I haven't played recently tbh

[sly rock]

me too, im kinda busy rn but in a few minutes i'll start the game and check him out

i didnt try him out yet today since the patch came out

[whole torrent]

Yeah same, got a job again recently plus buncha other games to play

[whole torrent]

For me school stopped me

[sly rock]

damn

[whole torrent]

Yeah, I'll be able to buy characters again at least

[sly rock]

also do you think Goku Black is coming next season?

i'm ready to spend my money on him

[whole torrent]

Im praying him or Fused Zamasu next

[sly rock]

same

[whole torrent]

I will spend everything to get all the cosmetics easily

I still need the finisher and intro for Zamasu tho

Been gone for too long

[sly rock]

i only have his rare intro

at least it's something else

i really wish they rework that ex store and bring back some emotes

i want his Taking out the trash finisher and everything else

[fallen ibex]

i wish i still have my legendary intro

[unborn vault]

What are zamasu's best cards now with the update?

[sly rock]

snowball, prepare to die and limit-breaking jump

[unborn vault]

Fr?

[sly rock]

the second card you have 3 options for him:

prepare to die
giant slayer
solid barrier

these are the best second cards for him

you can pick one of them

[sly rock]

yes

[sly rock]

if you're playing with another friend to rush enemies together, pursuer can be a good card too

[tacit plover]

Idk

Trying to get a tank to be a dps seems hm

[sly rock]

but Zamasu can, he can regenerate his HP all the time

he dont need build up card even less strategic escape, he's a tank

also the more you kill them, the more your team have the upper hand on the match

[tacit plover]

Too many If scenarios imo.

[sly rock]

try these cards and you'll see it by yourself

[tacit plover]

Alr

Yeah all attack cards are fine but he's getting picked apart.

[sly rock]

hm

[normal patio]

Is it me or zamasu is pretty good now?

[whole torrent]

He alr was good before but now after the buff hes a bit stupid

[next harbor]

after the buff, very good yeah

[normal patio]

I'm leaning on using him more than ssj4

[whole torrent]

You should

Hes the goat

[normal patio]

I tried buildup steel skin defense step

I had a hard time dying in 1 v2s even xd

[sly rock]

I dare to say he's quite an A tier now, of course, if you play it nice

he's an easy character to play as, and now he got better than he already was before

unfortunately not meta nor S tier yet like other tanks, but now he can hold his own way better

[warm torrent]

Ok buffed zamasu rocks

The extra stock in heavenly arrow really let's you do more damage/slow down or get more of your regen gauge vs mobs in a pinch

Me and an 18 just basically 2v4'd an enemy team

We were really lucky in how our enemies reacted to us trying to push their tower and if our uub didn't come to clean up at the end I would've died

[normal patio]

What's the skill order for him now?

[fallen ibex]

same as always

Divine Rush is last to be upgraded

[whole torrent]

Still the same, S3 still is the dominant move though S1 is always quite dominant even at low levels. S2 still the most lackluster but lots better than before

[blissful portal]

I like the storage of stocks of s1

[whole torrent]

Gotta agree easily, hes much more effective even with just that

Not considering his other stuff just the 2 stocks is great

[blissful portal]

It just adds a lot of skill expression,and I feel this is a really simple way to fix a lot of other moves

[whole torrent]

Yeah his s3 was already pretty good but this adds even more slow to help you catch them with the s3

The dash now is lots better too

Even more slow they have to deal with

[fallen ibex]

honestly i wish the dash had a debuff enhancer effect instead of another slow when he already has 2 entire slows before this buff

[normal patio]

either that or maybe the stagger when driving the enemy against a wall or something

it also takes a while to do the action after actually clicking it

[whole torrent]

Yeah always hated that

[marble sun]

His windup time for the s2 is way too long

[blissful portal]

I was watching this Japanese player(hardcore gekishin player,streams multiple hours a day) and i noticed a really interesting tech he was applying. Idk if this is new,I never paid much care to zamasu before buffs.

He was using the first skill like boujack or piccolo would to snipe off screen enemies/npcs

[normal patio]

Ig that's a thing with all wave attacks

I was ani a lot and I see him not focus the camera on himself and instead just move it while also doing stuff

I can't really do that

[marble sun]

The mobs always have a set spawn position, so its very common to do with any ranged characters really. As for sniping enemies, you can see them coming on the minimap, or predict certain attacks from directions with his skills

[blissful portal]

What I found more interesting was that this Japanese player prioritised maxing S1 over S3

[marble sun]

In a normal game u max both at lvl8

But theres no reason to get s1 on ss

Not over s3

Because while individually you can perhaps argue for both on ss, s3 only is useful maxed and s1 being at lvl 2 is still a lot of utility

[normal patio]

What I did was get s3 to max, s1 to 2 and the ult to 2 and just grind em up

Killed all 4 bosses in my last match

[unborn vault]

i think i have found my main

the buffs zamasu got are amazing

[tacit plover]

I've been trying but early game zamasu is really getting cooked here

[whole torrent]

Insane to see people now maining my goat that I've been maining since Project Multi

[sly rock]

I main him since S1, but if I ever knew that this game existed before being announced on SGF he certainly would be my main since beta

[unborn vault]

Don't get me wrong I tried to main him too but dude always got easily obliterated

With the patch now dude don't even need any defense cards

[whole torrent]

For me he alwayd survived a while

[unborn vault]

True

But I think the double charge on his skill 1 was just what he needed

[whole torrent]

He needs his revive mechanic to not he garbage too

[unborn vault]

What was the buff on the revive mechanic again?

[marble sun]

50% gauge on respawn

[whole torrent]

Nah thats on respawn not his revive mechanic that revives him full hp if enough gague

His revive sucks cuz you're vulnerable the whole time

You can just be nuked in half a second

[unborn vault]

True

Should have made it so you don't get damaged during revive

[sly rock]

it seems balanced for me

otherwise he would be broken if he had some gauge after reviving

literally immortal

well that's his lore accurate stuff but devs wont do it that way

[sharp ravine]

yeah lmao

idk why people want that

after revive having that and also his ult i frames that he can abuse to nullify kefla ult

bro would take 16 seconds to kill which is a long asf time

[sly rock]

it's a good thing for a tank like himself but that's too unfair fr lmao

[warm torrent]

Zamasu should get immune to all during the entirety of his ult like daimaku

[sly rock]

i agree

[whole torrent]

100% should

Stupid that he doesnt alr

Most ults need that tbh

[marble sun]

I wouldnt say all bc that isnt really balanced but he definitely needs more immune to all in his ult

He has too many startup frames for no reason

And his revive downtime should be lower or he needs some sort of dmg reduction during revive

[blissful portal]

I feel zamasu's ult needs more than just immunity on startup

His ult isnt as damaging as the big boys,but it comes in exchange for a domain which slows them down

I feel this domain of despair and misfortune could be used more

Like,what if the domain makes his rush attacks recharge skills?

Or make his dot damage last longer?

[marble sun]

His ult is very niche in its uses pre lvl 11, and it just wouldnt help in regard to his role as a tank

I feel like the 75ish slow is very strong as it is provided you use it well

Its not as brain dead as "i use ult and everyone has to leave"

[fallen ibex]

debuff enhancer where all debuffs are 33% more effective

[warm torrent]

Maybe the ult should do more damage or have an increased slow down per Continuous Damage stack on enemy heroes?

[blazing swallow]

lower cooldown

[sharp ravine]

you know you can avoid any ult in the game right

its a pretty big aoe and does a good chunk of damage on squishy herous

its not a teamfight winner but its amazing on engage cause you get free movespeed on it

im not sure but i swear you cleanse slowdowns and can easily use it to gabclose

[warm torrent]

It's kind of a bait to enemy players who over extend
2-3 players attacking you as you try to retreat then you get some S3 slices off then you drop the ult so the massive slowdown hinders their escape and hopefully your allies finish them off while they're semi-stuck

[indigo condor]

What are the viable cards for zamasu? After his buffs from a bit ago? I haven't been playing as much as i used to but i usually went the build up, giant slayer, pursuer route

[whole torrent]

Snowball, Steel Skin, and prolly Pursuer or Defense Step tho defense step doesnt do much for Zamasu in the end

Btw build up kinda sucks

[blissful portal]

Isnt buildup his main thing?

Like,he is constantly killing NPCs to build up gauge

[whole torrent]

Yeah but build up is still extremely weak overall compared to the other cards

It doesnt benefit him enough

[fallen ibex]

it's still better then Too Easy which has zero uses for him why does that have a 30s cooldown?

[whole torrent]

Fair there, snowball just feels best on him if you actually get kills on him which isnt hard

[indigo condor]

Yeah i can see the ultility for it early game but i feel like if it ever gets to late game doesn't snowball become a liability because your health just disappears in an instant?

[whole torrent]

not if you keep up on gague

[indigo condor]

Yes and no, Like yes maintaining your gauge is good but it's not enough when you're in the front lines tryna cap the gods, or get stunned, then bursted down to pop revive and then ability stunned by revive

Early game is fine tho cuz build up doesn't build up all that much to make a difference, but once i have to start dealing with high burst heros it gets pretty unplayable if i can't tank their initial attacks

[whole torrent]

From my MANY MANY hours of gameplay I've been mostly fine as long as I watch my gague and escape options if im forced to revive, trying to cap gods late game as any tank ruins you which is why you go as a team not alone since any tank would die ASAP doing that

Snowball late game makes picking people off easy when you have so much survivability and steel skin is perfect for reducing damage

[indigo condor]

Of course you go with your team to fight late game, but i'm usually the one killing the gods during that process cuz i'd much rather use my cooldowns to kill the gods then have my high burst characters trying to cap the point instead of killing ppl

Cuz i feel like my issue in games is that its hard to coordinate it so that you bait ppl out from their gods to get a pick to then charge in and win the 4v3 or 4v2

[whole torrent]

Thats fair but thats why I go with my team, I go in first with S3 then ult and start spamming on GOD but trying to keep s3 stacks up

Ult is perfect for mitigating the first massive rush of damage they're gonna throw at you for engaging

It works every time for me

[indigo condor]

I do similar but i initiate with S1 to try and bait ppl and i try to time the pursuer with S1 doing the burst to lower ppl's health. Ult is usually left as mid fight to end of fight or for securing an early fight pick

[whole torrent]

S1 works but personally the s3 first stack is a mean start especially when they're clustered in that GOD

[indigo condor]

Exactly what you said about mitigating damage but i like comboing with pursuer to get the big heavy damage on the enemy either for a kill or for team wide health reduction

[whole torrent]

Yeah thats what I do, once I hit s3 I pop ult for pursuer

Massive gain in damage plus slow while you can chip GOD

[indigo condor]

But that's the thing, my games are usually long range characters. So i rarely fight people camping on the gods. I usually fight people towards their like border, the wall you can't cross unless all gods are dead

[whole torrent]

For me even if they're long range they stupidly think being at edge of GOD is enough

Which it isnt and chunks them down hard

[indigo condor]

Oh yeah, lots of stupid ppl thinking they can escape by being in their god, but i see that mostly in early game like the close to middle gods, the front two gods i mean. Idk what you call those gods lol

[whole torrent]

Yeah, even late game I see people like ssj3 holding a Kamehameha at the edge of GOD while im right in his face about to pop pursuer ult

[indigo condor]

ssj3 still exist? It feels like its been a while since i've seen one of those

[whole torrent]

Every now and then I see him

I see mostly close rangers personally

[indigo condor]

Every game is like more of the new heros nowadays. Broly, kefla, vegito, and sometimes gammas

[indigo condor]

That's interesting, cuz other than the common vegito and broly, i get a lot of long range fighters. Piccolo, bojack, kefla, etc are the main ones i see nowadays

Close range fighters are more common in lower ranks tho

[whole torrent]

I see lots of vegito, broly, for some reason 18, ect

[whole torrent]

Im in mid A to S ranks is the thing lol

[indigo condor]

Yo fr, why is there 18 now, and i saw a dabura the other day too

[whole torrent]

18 can hurt but shes still so squishy

Shes a worse kefla in terms of movement

Both try to move around a lot but 18 just doesnt do as well

[indigo condor]

Me too, S rank in damage, and tank and tech are A rank, but that's after playing a couple games after rank reset... 💀

[whole torrent]

Yeah its strange

I get so many close rangers

[indigo condor]

Yeah exactly, like 18 shouldn't be viable at all and yet i still see her every now and then

[whole torrent]

Hoping to see more mid range characters instead

[indigo condor]

Yeah same, except i want close range fighters, stop giving me freaking enemy team piccolo's camping in their spawn 😭

[whole torrent]

Next season I pray we get a few more close rangers and mid rangers

[indigo condor]

How am i supposed to do anything as zamasu

[whole torrent]

I always just sneak around hiding like a rat then jump em

[indigo condor]

For sure

[indigo condor]

I'd do that too if he wasn't 20 feet behind his border

[whole torrent]

If we get Goku Black hes 100% gonna be mid range or close range

We need more characters like he would be having a longer range Kamehameha but closer range attacks for the rest

[indigo condor]

Oooo, that'd be cool. I hope they bring him in and then feel like compelled to buff zamasu's regen lol. At least making med capsules regen his gauge

[whole torrent]

Zamasu needs better regen over all and revive to be useful

[indigo condor]

Oh that's another thing, i don't see any ssj gokus anymore. What happened to him? Did he nerfed out of existence?

[whole torrent]

Hes still GREAT but new characters just are cooler in every way

Hes like the soldier 76 of squadra

The basic first guy thats good but just not that cool compared to the rest

[indigo condor]

Oh nice, that's a perfect place for goku to be at rn

[whole torrent]

People LOVE their brolys, Keflas, SSJ4s, ect

[indigo condor]

No more broken ahh gokus that a toddler could play him and place top 10 world 😭

[whole torrent]

Yeahhhh

His ult nearly isnt as dumb as it used to be

All his moves hit HARD in the end

But still feels off at times

[indigo condor]

Oh thank god, i remember not being able to even play the game anytime he popped his ult

Second you see he lobs the spirit bomb is the second you need to gtfo otherwise you're just dead 💀

[whole torrent]

Thats how he is when he has max snowball but otherwise its just a mean ult that can be escaped

[indigo condor]

Or even better is the ever so amazing solo boss clear from goku. Not needing anyone else but himself to secure first and second boss

[indigo condor]

Perfect, we love to hear it

[whole torrent]

Its like Zamasus ult in the beta/project multi. Really annoying when hit by it and can hurt but otherwise escapable

[mellow copper]

Wonder if we'll have merged Zamasu before Goku Black

[silent geyser]

Do you have any advice?

I was trying Zamasu out after a while and I kept getting melted by this Kefla, my regeneration wasn't doing much and I couldn't break away from them

also which helper should I use with him

[whole torrent]

Personally, I use Snowball, Steel Skin, and Defense step for the time being. For helpers use spopovich or cabba

[silent geyser]

how do you deal with Kefla

[whole torrent]

I use my S3 to hit guaranteed damage and use my s2 to get towards my god since I'd rather not 1v1 a kefla

[silent geyser]

Who are all of your Dos and Do nots to fight?

[whole torrent]

If they're a high tier DPS and im alone AVOID THEM. If they're mid tier dont be too worried. Against nost techs no worries at all same goes with most tanks but be careful for an ambush

[indigo condor]

I'm pretty sure the guy wanted you to list out actual names of the heroes you should or shouldn't go against

Might just be me, but when you say high tier and mid tier... i have no clue who you're talking about since it's so subjective whos actually mid/high tier or not besides ulthan

My best guess would be... dabura is mid tier? Maybe Kale is also mid tier (without her ult and alone) And kefla is high tier?

[whole torrent]

I just go off general tier lists and consensus on most characters

For example Kefla, Broly. And Vegito are high tier

Dabura is low tier because he still sucks after buffs

Cell is prolly mid tier at best but at worst low tier

Just for example Zamasu currently is high mid tier to low high tier rn

[marble sun]

Its much less abt characters, and more situational. However 2 characters you never fight is dabura and ulthan

I would also bait out stuns during s3 downtime so i dont lose stacks

Theres all sorts of possibilities in a fight to completely determine what is good or bad so i wouldnt worry too much

[whole torrent]

yeah kinda what I mean but still characters that are like Vegito, Broly, and Kefla always feel like people you never fight alone

weaker characters like Cell are easy to take on 1v1

[sharp ravine]

alr

imo

with the skill buff

zamasu early is unbeatable

[whole torrent]

unless you have incompetent teammates who let the two enemies focus you

[high nacelle]

do we know why we dont have acess to the legendary emotes for zamasu im more so f2p since the game came out n i just never got lucky lately i noticed that i dont see the option to unlock his better animations/emotes either

[flat bough]

You have to summon them bro

[high nacelle]

nah if u check the capsule rates his shi isnt there

at least his legendary stuff isnt

[flat bough]

Oh that’s what you’re talking about

The legendarys go in rotation

[flat bough]

It’ll be back soon

[high nacelle]

Oh really damn thank you

[warm torrent]

We all agree that zamasu is the 3rd best tank in the game now right?
#✨game-moments message

Me and the 18 basically 2v4'd the enemy team...although we did need uub for the wipe because ulthan was 100% going to kill me

[high nacelle]

heck nah my king needs more buffs dont push that propaganda

good clips tho what rank is that

[whole torrent]

Tbh I'd who else but SSJ4 and Bardock would be better

[mental zinc]

Do people still skip s2 and rush s3 afterupdate

[tulip ravine]

lv2: s1
lv3: s2
lv4: s1
lv5: ult
lv6: s3
lv7: s3
lv8: s3
lv9: s1
lv10: ult
lv11: ult

after/before update, i using zamasu with this skill set
im top 5 tank now with zamasu OTP so useful maybe
i hope this information helps

[marble sun]

I still go the s3 and s1, then s3,ult,s1,skip,s1 and s3, s2,ult ult

[mental zinc]

Late game it wont save you

I kinda pick snowball first half to see if i can snowball but when i die and i got all other card i change to strat escape because the whole game turn into who moves faster. And i have tao my beloved

I won by tao into last tower then ult to attack gower

[whole torrent]

I do that too tbh its kinda feels better than any other choice especially since his S3 still is the one of if not the best super start skill

[mental zinc]

Wtf bardock is natural counter to zamasu

Before i left this gams i was advocating on outlast opponent with prio s3 then s2 and just unlock s1

Bevause s2 is his best mobil

[mental zinc]

since zamasu S1 not worth at lvl 1 it become more of
S3 > S3 > S2 > ult > S1 > skip lvl 7 > S3 + S2

because i could dash myself out i can be more aggressive

but S2 lvl 2 is seriously good get out of jail card

i pick cabba too since i have S2 to get myself out

so it really depend, second prio on S1 and need drillo guy or prio on S2 on second and get cbba

build up sucks

[mental zinc]

what card?

[tulip ravine]

wait a bit, im asian so idk card name in english

[tulip ravine]

if i do solo, i choose

1. strategic escape
2. Art of Decoy
3. Limit breaking jump

if full party, i choose

1. build up
2. giant slayer or Art of Decoy
3. Defense step

Explaining why this card set is suitable would take a long time.

Solo Queue:

1. Enemy teams often lack coordination and don't defend, making it easier to unleash a powerful burst (especially if the enemy is also playing solo).

2. Even if you use build-up cards, teammates rarely come to cover you in combat, so you should avoid direct combat altogether.

While this set will significantly reduce your contribution to combat, it's highly suitable for solo play because it allows you to single-handedly attack the enemy's "God of Destruction" to win the game.

Furthermore, if the enemy's towers are excessively attacked, they will become wary and defend. This creates a 4v3 numerical advantage in the boss fight, right?

Since the enemy is a player, a high level of macro awareness is required, including the ability to deceive them.

.

Full Party:

1. Because you can coordinate with your teammates, as the tank, you make the decision to start the fight, endure until your teammates arrive, and absorb the enemy's skill resources to minimize damage to your teammates, allowing them to deal damage.

2. Unlike the solo queue set, it's difficult to escape alone once a fight with the enemy begins. Therefore, the second card is used to use a decoy, or the goal is to bring the enemy's HP down to the kill line by the time your teammates arrive using "Giant Slayer".

This set relies on coordination and movement with teammates. In lower ranks, a solo queue set where you can complete the match on your own is preferable.

However, this card set is a configuration that allows you to contribute to the maximum extent with the character Zamasu in high-rank matches where advanced coordination is required.

.

However, macros are completely different on Asian servers compared to other servers.

While this card set isn't necessarily the only correct choice, if you can explain your reasoning for using it and choose it based on rational judgment, this set is probably the best.

In Squadra Blast outside of Asia, everyone gathers together for boss battles and combat, resulting in quick victories.

Asia is much more cautious, with a focus on securing objectives, so the card sets will naturally differ.

I hope this is helpful.

This entire text has been translated, so it may not be explained correctly.

[tulip ravine]

The text was difficult to read because it was all strung together, so I made it easier to read.

and oops, i wrong card name.
not prepare to die, its giant slayer

lol

[marble sun]

wait why are you skipping 7 you arent maxing 2 abilities

[marble sun]

interesting builds

[mental zinc]

With S1 buff it easier to heal with S1 lvl 2

S2 lvl 1 ok

then max S3

[sharp ravine]

You serious?

[whole torrent]

yeah at level 1 its still okay at best even with 2 uses

level 2-3 is where its at

while s3 is great all the way through

[tulip ravine]

zamagu got buff

and im zamasu

[blissful portal]

so true!

[marble sun]

[mental zinc]

worst solo card combo eer

[tulip ravine]

in S3, idk for S4

[mental zinc]

the map got bigger

and uh

everyone just very good at mobility now

like i can't outrun android 18 or krillin or anyone with full tech card

gonna lowball and say snowball, steel skin, defense step since defense step got buff

[mental zinc]

the cam change and everything feel so small even on my S23+ phone

[tulip ravine]

o okay

[mental zinc]

prio S3 and S1 nowadays with cam this big

[sly rock]

isn't s1 not worthy to be unlocked first anymore?

[whole torrent]

Nahhh his s1 is always second to his s3 as usual

S2 good but not allat

[mental zinc]

I prio s3 but i upgrade s1 to lvl 2 first

@marble sun what best zamasu card

I tried out too easy and it gives zamasu and edge in fight

He not a guy who gotta fight all the time too

Or if he tank damage he prefer to take little damage

[whole torrent]

Steel skin by FAR

Reliably reduces damage while also making sure he stays a menace

[marble sun]

Idk with the new changes, but for now the general build is too easy/buildup depending on how much you can farm(usually buildup with the new mob spawn changes), steel skin/giant slayer(still not too sure which i like more) and then def step

With the 2 side mobs at mid disappearing its much harder for him to stay in to contest for kai, and theres so much backfarm now, a lot of things changed abt his laning and general fighting, so im still experimenting

[mental zinc]

i likes decoy

alot of times i got jump'ed by people

[spare valve]

I'm just running Snowball/Steel Skin/Defense Step

Too Easy wants you to believe it's a good card
Build Up wishes it was still a good card
and none of the other cards at that level matter

Steel Skin is just too good at stretching out every bit of his health and gauge

[mental zinc]

zamasu is so one dimensional tank

other tank is more copmlicated

he really just all about tank upfront and regenerate

others is about position, baiting, kiteing

[mental zinc]

he kinda.....hard to get out of fight on late game isn't it?

like he either do or die

[spare valve]

Nah, just Vanish Step and leave

If need be Skill 2 out. If they challenge this then they're gonna go for a ride

[blissful portal]

Knowing when you can't win a fight is pretty important as zamasu.

[mental zinc]

Im ready my 1000 ex coin for zamasu in sexy outfit

[marble sun]

Zamasu infinite when

I neeeeed it

[sly rock]

honestly this ex rewards should be gone fr

I prefer the idea of exchanging them with character emote, specially the old ones that won't get back

[warm torrent]

Yeah for emotes it should be
Rare 100 (but possibly 250)
Epic 500
Legendary 1000

[whole torrent]

yeah like Zamasus still not being in a real rotation in ages

[mental zinc]

i don't have his legend mvp

only legend intro

[whole torrent]

I need his finisher and intro alr

[mental zinc]

Soon, the world i have been dreaming of for song may be manifest EVIL LAUGH

[split grove]

Is Zamasu kinda underrated in the community? Feels like he's a sleeper.

[twilit kite]

I like him, but his kid is rather simple

[blissful portal]

He is definitely underrated

Honestly rn it'll take some time for the dust to settle,the game is not what it was in the beta or even last season

[delicate grove]

Zamasu is a basic Kai. Stable DOT, absorb tons of damage, and move/slow for teammates.

He can also stay glued to a boss like no-one else, since they are NPCs after all.

[twilit kite]

We want unique outfits for him

Like him wearing goku blacks suit would be cool

We want justice for him

[split grove]

Would it be blasphemous if I said put him in the angel fit?

[twilit kite]

No, it would be cool as hell

Or rather heaven

[sly rock]

also he doesn't need gods of destruction to recover his hp

this saves time to farm or do some game's objective

he's good, but underrated and not a S tier

I really wish he could be better than that

[split grove]

That insane healing / durability is probably why they didn't make him better. Goku Black is probably going to be an insane tank, too, since that's his whole gimmick (similar to UE)

Fusion and / or corrupted Zamasu is probably going to have crazy healing, too.

[twilit kite]

Why would black be a tank?

also all gokus are dps 🙂

[split grove]

1. Wasn't his whole thing he became stronger by taking damage, I mean, Legends has a whole character about that concept.

2. Would this be a "Goku" character, I didn't think he would be since he's basically Goku Not Goku.

[twilit kite]

would kinda find it funny if the not goku follows the goku way of dps

but back to important topics

zamasu needs unique outfits

[split grove]

I hope they aren't dumb*** because I am worried about that. Since they just don't want Goku to be in every role. I hope Black is sorta that loophole

[twilit kite]

i mean... kid buu one of the strongest dbz guys is a tech

[sly rock]

I don't think so about Black. Goku Black and Zamasu are partners, they will make Black as dps to team up with Zamasu just like Kale and Caulifla

like, think

people like and expect to play as Goku Black and Zamasu as a duo

[twilit kite]

I like this persons thought process

[sly rock]

why would devs do the opposite?

Merged Zamasu might be tech or tank

probably tank because I'm sure devs will give him a transformation to Corrupted Zamasu

and this boi is resistant a lot

[fallen ibex]

merged is gonna be a tank it's the only role he fits especially with zamasu being tank he's just a stronger version of him

[twilit kite]

Hope merged has a unique transformation requirement like taking a certain amount of damage total

[fallen ibex]

no i hate that purple sludge for the same reason i hate bio broly it looks lame

[twilit kite]

It does look ugly and not as godly as normal merged

[spare valve]

It's suppossed to look ugly

And in that regard I like it a lot

Green and purple are also a great, contrasting color scheme. I think for the character it looks really good. I'd like Corrupted to be a sep character and be Damage

[twilit kite]

While I respect your decision I like his perfect divine form more

[spare valve]

And I like it more too

[sly rock]

exactly

[sly rock]

I like both versions fr

I can even imagine Corrupted Zamasu's hp

giant hp

[twilit kite]

For giant dude

[sly rock]

yes

[split grove]

Will be interesting when we findally get giant characters, like giant Gomah

IS corrupted Zamasu actually considered a "giant character?" I can never remember if he was.

[twilit kite]

He’s not that giant, but I think 2 or 3 times the size of Vegito

[sly rock]

.

[twilit kite]

.

[whole torrent]

He is pretty massive-

starts out before more monstrous a bit bigger but when hes monsterous yeah that guy is pretty massive

[sly rock]

https://tenor.com/view/merged-zamasu-corrupted-zamasu-zammy-yammysu-supreme-god-zamasu-fused-zamasu-gif-25946564

look at it

[split grove]

Is this what true beauty looks like?

[twilit kite]

It’s just divine justice

[tulip ravine]

bardock has got nerf
zamasu will be top in tank

W god, W zamasu

[twilit kite]

Nice

[sly rock]

W zamasu

[spare valve]

Nope, that's not good. Zamasu needs to not be the best or he'll get nerfed

[sly rock]

I dont care, my boi deserves to be the top god and best of all tank characters for once

if he does get a nerf, honestly I don't think it will be that big

he'll still be kicking

wiping all these mortals out of existence is his best interest

[whole torrent]

when he was the best tank in the game he got nerfed to the ground.

Back when the game was in beta and until the reigonal test after its rebrand he was a god

he legit wouldnt die

but after that he became nearly one of the worst tanks in the game

I am NOT going through that again

[sly rock]

so did 3ku

look at him now

he's back to S tier, at least from my pov

[whole torrent]

3ku is solid at best, his s1 is a bit weak until you have snowball stacks now and his s2 is just fine while his ult is amazing

[sly rock]

I wish I could play with him in that time

[whole torrent]

He gapped every tank by FAR at that time. Cooler and Caulifla were basically the same as they were when S1 dropped and when I first played Cooler and Caulifla before the Zamasu nerfs they felt so weak but thats just because Zamasu was so damn OP

[tulip ravine]

Ya but its fine if no buff. even if it gets nerfed, if you still lose because of it, then it's a skill issue

[twilit kite]

Screw buffs and nerfs, we want outfits for Zamasu

[wary knot]

Zamasu my goat

Still the best tank

but

Vegeta ssg god tho 💔

[twilit kite]

Vegeta has the better outfits

[wary knot]

I mean I don't want fused Zamasu as outfit

[twilit kite]

He’s gonna be his own character

I hope

[wary knot]

So what outfit do you have in mind

[wary knot]

I think they're saving him for anniversary

[twilit kite]

Him wearing Goku blacks outfit could look cool, or a destroyer god outfit

[wary knot]

[wary knot]

Goku black outfit could be good

[sly rock]

I can't imagine my boi zamasu wearing such outfit

he would have his body parts shown

[twilit kite]

Any better ideas?

[sly rock]

wearing Universe 7 supreme Kai outfit, ig? since they did that to Caulifla because she doesn't have any other character nor outfit to inspire with

that Universe 7 outfit is a nice outfit for her, btw

[twilit kite]

Would be nice looking

[flat bough]

I hope this game lasts that long

[tulip ravine]

I woke up this morning and had turned into a Zamasu.

I was a little confused at first, but now I'm happy. I intend to take over his plan.

[analog badger]

do you think next week zamasu animation will returns as revival-g-capsule??

[twilit kite]

To expensive

They should do missions or events for animations

[scenic condor]

in 2 weeks it will

[tulip ravine]

im zamasu

[twilit kite]

Good

[scenic condor]

i am also zamasu!

[twilit kite]

Someone ping every guy named Zamasu in this server

They all shall fight to see who’s the real one

[indigo condor]

@royal radish @jade wyvern @analog badger @odd quarry @haughty wren @magic elm @unborn tree @glacial bough @split dome You heard the man ☝️

[jade wyvern]

LMAOOOO WE are zamasu ❤️‍🩹

[glacial bough]

?

[unborn tree]

what the heck bro

[whole torrent]

bro pinged ALL the Zamasus

[indigo condor]

Of course

[whole torrent]

None of them the real one lowk if anything thats the goat MobiMUI

[indigo condor]

@marble sun You've been summoned ☝️

[whole torrent]

hes lowk the Zamasu goat

one of few Zamasus I know easily are better than I am

[twilit kite]

Thou shall face judgement for impersonation the divine

There’s only one Zamasu

The imposters will suffer bad luck and bad teammates

[tulip ravine]

[marble sun]

Yes

Godgeta's survivability feels like what zamasu's should be, unfortunately he is just better numbers and kitwise

And the only thing zamasu has over him is dmg

[twilit kite]

This is not about godgeta

It’s about Zamasu‘s imposters

[whole torrent]

Sadly so, though I will say Zamasus survivability is still absolutely insane though I do think a gague like what Godgeta has suits him better overall

Just a constant stronger passive regen works alongside a then boosted regen and his revive not being useless

Like maybe after the gague runs out he gains back lets say 50-75% of lost HP from it after he revives

[twilit kite]

that short stun after the revive is also a problem

[whole torrent]

Yeah thats his main problem rn

Also isnt short

Its a good almost 3 seconds

[twilit kite]

and his lack of outfits

[whole torrent]

He needs some drip

[marble sun]

short?

it lasts longer than my sanity

[marble sun]

ye

[marble sun]

thing is what can they give him

[twilit kite]

get creative

broly got turles outfit

[marble sun]

im asking for ideas bc idk

[twilit kite]

all is possible

[marble sun]

theres the shin outfit

[twilit kite]

god of destruction outfit

Gokus battle outfit

endless options

[whole torrent]

Farmer Goku outfit, Goku Blacks gi, shin outfit as you said, could even do something like his db heroes fit

[twilit kite]

See, enough options

[marble sun]

ye

now to hope they actually put it in

[whole torrent]

theres a lot but they still wont give him a thing for some reason

[next harbor]

zamasu buff again?

[twilit kite]

Nice

[tulip ravine]

zamasu got buffs again, he can beat god vegeta so easy

[ornate kraken]

We are so back

[whole torrent]

We're more back than ever before

My goat shall shine like no other again

[next harbor]

is it an very good buff?

[sharp ravine]

How?

Feels like I do no damage

Also idk if it’s better to actually take steel skin over something like gaint slayer or prepare to die

[marble sun]

Player diff

[sharp ravine]

Such useful info

[marble sun]

If you are equal skill zamasu cant really do anything

[sharp ravine]

My point . He can survive a decent while but he didn’t have the utility

Does zamasu ult come out faster than god vegeta ult?

[marble sun]

I dont know, but if you use it as a react tool i dont think so

[marble sun]

I mean if the godgeta you fight is bad

Also its a ranged meta, and zamasu's weak mobility shows heavily

[whole torrent]

Always steel skin

Steel skin uses his gague to its best potential by far

[sharp ravine]

Yea but I end up lacking kill pressure

Especially vs the new buu

[whole torrent]

Thats why I then use pursuer

Always turns up hitting like a truck

His ult with pursuer always does at least half of basically all enemies HP

[sharp ravine]

Yeah iv been testing prepare to die

Not been doing bad for people who try to
Kill Me

[whole torrent]

Prepare to die is so bad its not funny at least imo

[sharp ravine]

You have to play around it

The way I play zamasu is to basically abuse my out of combat enhanced regen

So many people have mobility walking at them is not worth it

Gaint slayer is nice if I’m fist fighting people only like facing god vegeta and a melee dps

[whole torrent]

I use him to exist to be annoying which includes using his gague to the full extent but also hitting like a truck

[sharp ravine]

But if I’m facing multiple ranged people I need to play in and out and plan to win long term cause if I get caught outb in the open I’m dead

[whole torrent]

I feel like I'd rather use wicked warrior in that case since Zamasus m1 does really solid damage already so if I need to fist fight wicked warrior is ideal

[sharp ravine]

Maybe . But also depending on the god vegeta player if he is too stupid to fight close range and not use his dash to kite / debuff you

[whole torrent]

Thats also then fair but most at least in my A-S rank games love close range

[tulip ravine]

😂

if you lose to god vegeta, its skill issue

[sharp ravine]

Idk if your joking

Or your stupid and dont know it

Someone asks a question you don’t say “If you don’t know you’re dumb lmao “.

@tulip ravine What does that even mean omg it’s skill issue .

Think Sherlock why do you think I’m asking how .

[twilit kite]

Robin does have a point

[tulip ravine]

Ah, I see, you can't even think about how to fight?

Well then, let me explain the key points of the battle between God Vegeta and Zamasu.

First, since this is a translation, there may be some inaccuracies, but the overall nuance remains the same, so I think the meaning will be conveyed to some extent.

First, as a basic premise, in a 1v1 situation with equal levels, cards, stamina, and skill resources, Zamasu wins.

This is because Zamasu was strengthened in the Season 4.3 adjustments. Previously, he couldn't win in a head-on fight, but now he can win in the limited situation of 1v1.

Yes, he can win in 1v1.

However, this is only true in a 1v1 situation.

In other words, Zamasu loses in team battles.

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Why do you think that is?

It's because of the presence of other players.

Tank battles have winners and losers, but the battles can be very long.

In other words, by the time a long one-on-one battle ends, friendly and enemy characters have joined the fight, and it's often no longer just a battle between tanks.

At that point, it's no longer a battle between tanks, but an all-out war involving almost everyone.

And in such a situation, God Vegeta, due to the nature of his abilities, can be in a favorable position.

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God Vegeta's passive ability charges faster when engaging multiple enemies, and by drawing enemies in, it shifts the battle line in the enemy's favor.

In other words, while allies take longer to retreat, enemies retreat much faster.

This is because enemies are drawn into a position advantageous to them.

That's why God Vegeta is considered a powerful character, strong in group battles, and capable of winning even with just a few skill uses.

While Zamasu might have the advantage in one-on-one combat, God Vegeta has the advantage in group battles.

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However, there are two situations in which Zamasu can win a team battle.

What do you think those situations are? The first is fighting in an advantageous position.

Ah, this is basic, so I'll explain it briefly, but the tank is at the front of the battle line.

This means the tank has the right and responsibility to engage the enemy first.

Therefore, if you're playing as a tank, the ability to judge when to start a battle is extremely important.

This is something you can only learn through experience, and the criteria for judgment are very difficult, but basically, you consider things like level, health, Kamidoro, number of players, the positions of your allies, the positions of the enemy, etc...

Taking various factors into account, if you judge that you can win by starting a battle here, you can start the battle.

Hmm, it's quite vague, isn't it?

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To give a specific example...

Before approaching the enemy and initiating combat, use Zamasu's Skill 3 at the very edge of its range, then retreat to accumulate consecutive stacks of Skill 3.

This way, if the enemy attempts to approach Zamasu and initiate combat, they will shift their battle line towards you, allowing you to start the fight with already accumulated consecutive stacks, creating a favorable situation.

Conversely, if the enemy retreats to prevent you from accumulating consecutive stacks, combat will not occur, the enemy will retreat their battle line, and you will be able to advance.

I believe this is the most effective tactic for Zamasu.

[twilit kite]

could have made it a bit shorter

[tulip ravine]

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While it involves less direct interaction with Zamasu, another strategy is to avoid targeting the tank role from the start.

This involves first eliminating high-damage, low-durability enemies (such as God Goku) or technical characters, isolating God Vegeta, and then surrounding and defeating him.

However, ignoring God Vegeta allows him to freely spread crowd control to his teammates, so this strategy heavily relies on teamwork. As the tank, you need to contain God Vegeta while leaving the other enemies to your teammates.

Ultimately, God Vegeta has an advantage in team battles, and the outcome is often determined by factors beyond your control. Therefore, you'll need to give instructions via voice chat or, if playing with random players, communicate your intentions through simple chat messages.

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Oh, and I'm using Build Up, Utsusemi, and Defense Step cards.

I don't know the English name of the second card, but it's a blue card with a 10-second cooldown.

The reason I use this card is to escape the enemy's pull attack during the fight with God Vegeta.

Well, there are other advantages as well. Using this card makes the playstyle I explained earlier much easier to execute.

Many players seem to be using Giant Slayer with Zamasu, but Zamasu isn't a damage dealer.

First of all, Zamasu must fulfill the role of a tank.

That means standing on the front lines and surviving.

That's why I'm using Utsusemi.

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I got lazy and it was too much trouble to write everything down, so I just dismissed it as a skill issue, but I should have explained it from the beginning.

Actually, I didn't really understand what "how" meant, but I thought it meant that Zamasu couldn't beat God Vegeta.

My mistake, sorry haha.

Hmm, I didn't intend to share the knowledge I gained with other players... but let's consider this a special service.

Now, after explaining all this, if you still think you can't beat God Vegeta, then it's a skill issue.

You'll just have to keep using God Vegeta.

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I hesitate to say this, but it's true that teamwork is a significant advantage over one-on-one combat ability, and it's undeniable that god vegeta is stronger than zamasu.

Nevertheless, I believe that continuing to love Zamasu and clinging to that glimmer of hope for victory is what makes a true Zamasu user.

Now, these are the points I think are important when fighting God Vegeta.

This might be quite long and difficult to read, but I put a lot of effort into it, so I'd be happy if you read it (lol).

[tulip ravine]

Yeah, it's pretty short in Japanese, but it ended up being quite long in English.

I hope I haven't accidentally sent the same string of text, or made any typos or grammatical errors.

@sharp ravine I wrote this for you, Robin.

and other zamasu users

[warm torrent]

Eh the more detail the breakdown the better imo

[sharp ravine]

Just read it

And yeah I do agree

[warm torrent]

Ah the english name for that blue card is "Art of Decoy"

[tulip ravine]

o okay thank you

[tulip ravine]

use zamasu more… to fulfill Zamasu's ideal

[sharp ravine]

my bad i didnt finish

so i do agree and ngl i can totally see the problem

rly as zamasu the main issue is with how he has zero mobility to disengage fights

so using that blue card for movespeed . honestly i never though of that

hold on , does he still gain the bonus passive regen off boss?

[marble sun]

Its a shame tbh, zamasu is very selfish in his kit, so he is very stuck in this meta where its all off of control

[marble sun]

He gets gauge off of bosses

If thats what ur asking

[sharp ravine]

nice alr

lowkey changes a lot then ,. i never though of

although i think even with that god veegta has the adv with how he big his suck range is

you have to position up slightly more

[tulip ravine]

If my dream comes true, I'll come to your world and help you out lol

[marble sun]

Also niche but it doesnt have to deal dmg either, so if you fire a s1 into the boss even outside of the zone you get gauge

[sharp ravine]

which can be an issue can zamasu can get collaped on rly easy due to again

15 second small dash cooldwon( idk why its that high of a cooldwon for the worst dash in the game)

[marble sun]

12 now

[sharp ravine]

still long asf

honestly best thing you could do is try to get and proc revive as fast as possible maybe

[tulip ravine]

tips: Even if no one pits in and the boss takes no damage, the regeneration gauge will still recover.

[sharp ravine]

then use boss to keep up

[marble sun]

With the s2 cd, it was a 7.5 which feels really nice

[sharp ravine]

still though hvaing to keep god vegeta in check and protect vs enemy dive dps

[marble sun]

@tulip ravine thats what i said here

[sharp ravine]

or my dps not being able to reach enemy long range dps

[tulip ravine]

o

[sharp ravine]

zamasu is rough

[tulip ravine]

i didnt read lol

[tulip ravine]

I use Spopovich to draw enemies in and instantly switch focus, but if you find that difficult, you'll just have to leave it to your melee/assassin teammates.

[marble sun]

Its a very ranged meta now

[sharp ravine]

maybe i should use him more

rly been using cabba mostly cause of his rly low cooldwon and good value