#Piccolo

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lyric sundial
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Assuming equal skilled the 20% difference is less potent than not getting jumped, at least on average

paper gyro
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You dont like the one shot light grenades?

lyric sundial
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And since tier 2, Card doesn’t come into play until mid game, I think about it from a mid to late perspective

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Light grenade typically does between 50 to 60% damage without giant slayer, so the extra 20% doesn’t confirm

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It’s a nice benefit but doesn’t work on bosses or change thresholds

paper gyro
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You skip S3 go get max hell zone and light grenade at 8 and gell zone removes enemy barrier

lyric sundial
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I always put one point into whip at level four, because repositioning is essential

paper gyro
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Bosses you only use SBC

lyric sundial
paper gyro
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You can light grenade if it has aggro

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Whip is only good for bonus rush dmg for early pressure

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Imi

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Imo

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Its good with playing with hit top

lyric sundial
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Whip is pretty solid for faster farming, grenade poking reposition, and sbc bailout

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No need to max it early/at all but it’s a great one pointer

paper gyro
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Ye but farming is already pretty fast

lyric sundial
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Usually I’m max trap by level 10, max grenade and level 2 beam by 8

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Super start nonwithstanding

paper gyro
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Ye you can do that or get max hell zone at 8

lyric sundial
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I’ve considered that but it’s a 15% damage bump per level on grenade

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Since we started off talking giant slayer that’s almost giant slayer 🤣

paper gyro
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You max grenade and hellzone both at 8

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And you always get giant slayer tbh

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Its invaluable vs tanks too

lyric sundial
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I like my level 2 sbc but I have done the double 8 before depending on the game state

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If I’m at 8 when sbc is on cd then yeah double skills

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Else grenade + sbc 2

paper gyro
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Sbc is better with max hell zone tbh specially with aim assist lol

lyric sundial
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Well that’s not true I swapped to one point whip

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So I never do double max 8 🤣

paper gyro
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You just pop hell zone and sbc auto lock

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You can do some good things with whip but solo q i think not worth

lyric sundial
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Fair take, I like the outplay but good positioning can make you not “need” it

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I just like being able to passive farm without grenade faster

paper gyro
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He hits hard tho with rusg attacks

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And whip

lyric sundial
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The boosted every 6 seconds is nice

paper gyro
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Ye and its shorter with landed rush attacks

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You can snowball pretty good with whip and nail with aggressive play

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But depends on team tbh and just power farming usually is better

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@lyric sundial you ever tried backstab on piccolo

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On cloud maps

lyric sundial
paper gyro
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Lol

lyric sundial
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I’m usually in a situation where as soon as I do anything on piccolo, the enemy team makes it their mission to kill me, so I have to keep whip, barrier, and double jump on deck for when they inevitably start chasing me

paper gyro
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You normally go LBJ or WW? WW is not bad tbh vs tanks with giant slayer

lyric sundial
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Makes sense since what I’m doing is taking bosses but-

paper gyro
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Ah i see

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I usually am in a different continent abusing free cam

lyric sundial
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It’s pretty helpful because them focusing on me lets the other three people just kind of hit them in the back of the head

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But if I wasn’t the main target 1000% I’d prioritize damage

paper gyro
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I see bro

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You dont hug tower/safe lines?

lyric sundial
# paper gyro You dont hug tower/safe lines?

I do when I can, but boss positioning, and the urge to farm forces me to play a bit more centrally in the moments that count, I’m willing to have more even trades during the laning phase for stronger pushing during objective phases

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There’s a bit of Frieza logic where you take defensives to be able to stand in the enemies face and get off confirms that I use

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Barrier lets you charge your cannon in their face and there’s nothing they can do about it, because they can’t kill you fast enough

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And nothing beats the double jump to whip escape, lol

paper gyro
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Ye see that's what I nticed is the wrong way to play

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Never gave me success

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You cant contest bosses without your team and its not worth losing snowball tbh

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You get barrier around 2nd boss or after tho

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You can snipe the kai with LG too

past geode
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word!!

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I'm currently A4 and this strategy no longer works. it made sense up to B-Rank, but higher level games require a bit more engagement

paper gyro
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I mean max range abilities too

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Free cam

storm grove
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Since Max range hits don’t do more damage than max vision hits it’s better to maintain battle line viability than go for football field shots

past geode
lone copper
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piccolo with new attacker buff gonna be artillitery from backine

past geode
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Light Grenades will become cruise missiles

past geode
topaz hinge
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Yep, damage caps at basically vision distance

past geode
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how do I use Free Cam on PlayStation?

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and can I shoot at Bosses from outside view range if someone else has already engaged in combat?

olive needle
onyx jay
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Also yes

median delta
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giant slayer better as piccolo then solid barrier, being able to got more damage at the start of fights is key it late game scraps, use botamo to keep people off points / you

formal citrus
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World king kinda op now

median delta
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even more dmg

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better best

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true that

topaz hinge
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Just tested and it does, yes. It adds about 27% damage on top of light grenade.
But you're forgoing solid barrier which is extremely important for holding onto your snowball stacks. I don't think it's worth it

median delta
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just never get hit Piccolo

past geode
fathom plank
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i feel liek anyone giving their advice best need to show their ranks. whole lot of bad advice im seeing

topaz hinge
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Agreed

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Mid-late game against any competent team, they are going to hard focus you because 1. Dangerous long range artillery and 2. To take your snowball stacks from you

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And without solid barrier all it takes is a single combo or ultimate

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Or god forbid an opposing piccolo 1-shotting you and diffing you entirely

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Also yeah world king got buffed by like 300%

past geode
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125 to 300...

125 damage or 125%
300 damage or 300%?

topaz hinge
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So he now gives 350 atk all

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As far as how does that affect your damage, I don't know. I don't know what the calculation is or how much atk stat contributes to damage. But it's pretty substantial as we see how affective Gohan's strike atk boost is

past geode
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might need to test it in Practive and see how much more damage is caused with and without King...

past geode
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has Piccolo's Ult Lvl 1 become a little bit wider after the update, or is it just impression?

jagged crane
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still the same

past geode
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maybe it's because I haven't played on my living room's TV for a couple of weeks and everything looks bigger now hahaha

idle owl
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thats actually true

past geode
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Light Grenade damage early in the game is not high enough. even with the range, it doesn't really "change the game"
Hellzone range and slow movement speed will definitely harass the other team a lot more, early on

median delta
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i just went world king and giant slayer Piccolo sniping folks for massive damage

olive needle
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For any Piccolo players did they change the minimap camera movement at all because I can't charge SBC now and use the camera or it automatically releases it

paper gyro
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I just use controller and it auto snaps

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Maybe theres pc settings that change too

swift rain
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Piccolo is p cool, what tips can you give? Any good skill order and card recs?

past geode
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S3 is fun to chase evading enemies and finish them off

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S1 auto aim is good, but you often miss distant shots on running targets if you don't take their path into consideration

livid bear
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Good cards are snowball barrier warrior

lyric sundial
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I’ve got to start practicing warrior over LBJ, I like my safety but he does rush a lot, matter of taste there

livid bear
livid bear
lyric sundial
dim vortex
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But Ltj is never bad though

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When I do well on piccolo enemy divers like hit make it their mission to harass tou

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So the mobility ain’t bad

dim vortex
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Piccolo attacks crazy fast and weirdly enough

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People don’t use his own passive enough lmao

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The reduction is crazy

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And actually using skill 3 to cycle your empowered auto makes him rly mobile mid fight

past geode
light cedar
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how do you aura farm with piccolo

livid bear
azure marlin
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How
Just how, really
I struggle so much

livid bear
swift rain
dim vortex
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Skill 3 is your bread and butter for mobility

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And personally maxing that second is a lot more self peel value than second skill

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Try using that . Though sadly for Gohan I’m still struggling for a solution

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I am thinking maybe

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Decoy is good this season bs gohan

idle owl
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get light grenade up asap and snipe him

paper gyro
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You want skill 1 and 2 only skill 3 is low elo bait

paper gyro
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You need skill 2 to break solid barrier

dim vortex
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@paper gyro hey man, you play picolo your way but i promise you your tank is already freely breaking solid barrier off them for free every fight

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skill 3 is amazing cause incase you forgot picolo light grenade does nothing close range to an enemy

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its a good re position and chase tool

paper gyro
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You shouldnt be close anyway on piccolo lol

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If you let someone rush you, you just have bad positioning/decision making

dim vortex
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sorry buddy

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we are all human

swift rain
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What Skill 2 does is give pressure to a brawl that you're hopefully not inside. It's more for giving your team some cover while you're doing your part

dim vortex
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Or zone off areas for enemies to find it hard to escape

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And that can’t be done till the thing is maxxed out

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So personally I just ignore it till late game . Not completely bht not my focus to max it

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The skill 3 range is kind of needed for the massive aoe a lot of herous have

lyric sundial
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If you’re not putting one point in s3 for faster farming you’re playing piccolo incorrectly

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That’s not even adding in reposition value

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It’s low priority to max certainly, but it’s a one point grab for sure

dim vortex
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I won’t say my maxing technique

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Is law

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I play piccolo aggressively

swift rain
half eagle
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I don't know what's going on. I'm either playing with Piccolo bots or I'm playing with Piccolo players that don't like going the different lanes, and be dying too much.

dim vortex
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Dont take it personally

paper gyro
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lol

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I just went 15-0 705k dmg on piccolo took all bosses and we lost because my team didn't want to take towers.

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S rank lobby by the way

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Was fun tho

half eagle
# dim vortex It’s a multiplayer game . Sadly you get many types of people

Saying that isn't helping buddy. You act like I never played a moba game before, because this is what this game is. It's not just multiplayer game, it's a moba. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. My point is every time that I have a Piccolo on my team, they are always so bad. They are either bots or real people.

dim vortex
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what are you implying?

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saying that

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in the picolo tab in the server

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either two things

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you dont know how to play with a picolo

dim vortex
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you have bad luck

dim vortex
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this game has like thousands of players

light cedar
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yeah and piccolo needs quite a bit of skill

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many players will not be able to figure him out

dim vortex
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legit just learn to aim the skill and know to keep your distance

paper gyro
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or just abuse controller auto aim like me 😂

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but yeah the game is annoying sometimes but it's the same as every moba in ranked soloq

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you can only focus on your own gameplay though tbh

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its rare to find a god piccolo though too

paper gyro
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some people do need to be perma banned from match making tho tbh

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If you are in S rank lobbies and you don't have basic critical thinking ability you should get temp banned for 2 days, then 7 days then 14

livid bear
paper gyro
livid bear
paper gyro
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It follows the player ye, but its at long range so most of the time it hits. People dont move vertically usually only horizontally

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Mouse prob way better, i just havent used it much.

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I free aim on some shots though, you need to

half eagle
livid bear
dim vortex
past geode
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bro things anyone who doesn't do what HE would do as Piccolo is a bad player. this is the answer...

lone copper
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Just saw some piccolo snipe the middle boss from half stage away

past geode
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as long as the shield is down, you should be able to snipe

paper gyro
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Ye you can 🤣

lone copper
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Ye it should be noted here

spice rune
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Been using piccolo for a bit. The cards I use are Snowball, Barrier, Wicked Warrior.
Is Snowball the play, or should I swap for something else?

jagged crane
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Snowball

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Barrier

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and Limit Breaking Jump for safety

winter kindle
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How to land light grenade 💡🥴

swift rain
winter kindle
swift rain
orchid narwhal
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You also should use the camera if you can to lead your own shot outside of range (note, do not know how to set config to make that something I can do properly)

untold totem
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Hi guys, i‘m thinking about playing piccolo so can someone give me a description of his best moves, cards, how to play the early and mid game and what to do in team fights or fights to secure the boss. Thanks in advance

livid bear
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After getting ult get s2 and save your point at lv 7 for ult lv2 and lg lv 3

untold totem
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Alright after a few matches I have some questions like how should I secure the first Kai with light grenade if they can just body block it

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I mean it has like zero aoe on lvl 1

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and where should I position myself when it’s time for bosses so I can’t easily get stunned or chased while charging the sbc

swift rain
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Sometimes you may need to fire right before you die, sometimes you may need to sit back and judge a situation

untold totem
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okay thanks

swift rain
untold totem
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but our goku could secure

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i‘m still learning him tho and that’s why I didn’t exactly know what to do

jagged crane
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something that works on party but in solo que is a gamble with you on the losing side most of the time

livid bear
jagged crane
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most of the opponents i face on bottom try to target me just for being Piccolo, even just ignoring my tank to get me lol

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not saying it doesn't work but is quite risky

bleak fulcrum
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Happens

swift rain
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It gets worse when bosses spawn, I specifically don't engage bosses until I hunt down Piccolo and/or Goku

red palm
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I just want to know why we have the Gamma heroes but Piccolo doesn't get his Orange transformation...? This feel like b.s to anyone else? Lol

jagged crane
fiery moon
red palm
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@jagged crane True, they at least did ssj4 Vegeta..
@fiery moon Oof.. Hopefully not paid. I want that transformation added! Lol.

fiery moon
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I'm in training mode. Trying to look at numbers.
However I can not. lol
Piccolo snipes too far and I can't see the damage that he deals to the block. Suggestions or better, Data?

hazy herald
fiery moon
hazy herald
fiery moon
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So it isn't the max distance but the max vision?

hazy herald
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Yep

fiery moon
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Shame. Lol

hazy herald
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That just means you don't need to back up as much as you think you would to blow someone away with it

raw adder
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Okay I am solo q ing and my teammates are always under levelled (I’m c5 so no wonder why), someone said piccolo is the best solo q dps, is this true and if so why

jagged crane
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as long as you has good spacing and prioritize demon whip alongside light grenade it should be good for solo q

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though, he's still on the hard side

inner lynx
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Mr piccolo... Gohan

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Why

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Didnt

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You

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DOOOOOOOOODGE

quick pond
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My goat and my favorite character

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Genuinely piccolo probably one of the best dps in the game

paper gyro
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hes goated

tidal ore
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i wish ppl understood that you have to be near the boss so we can snipe him

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its frustrating to sit there charging sbc just to have your team not even on the obj to use it

hazy herald
north edge
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Need tips with piccolo

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Cards

jagged crane
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combination of high damage for K.O.'s/Assists, high defense for almost 2 seconds so you can repotition and double vanishing step for said repositioning

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you could run Giant Slayer instead of Solid Barrier to ramp up damage even more with light grenade but you would be with almost no defenses at the entirity of the game

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also don't spend points on Hellzone trap

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it's best for you to upgrade Light Grenade and Demon Whip at max

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skip a point on level 7 so you can max light grenade and Upgrade Makankosappo at level 8

north edge
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I thought demon whip was the useless move honestly

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But ill alternate

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I also rlly like giant slayer

tranquil wave
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skill 2 still looks like a skip, gotta test

final robin
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Does his s3 get any upgrades from leveling up or is it just range?

jagged crane
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but it's essential for him since it's his main mobility option

burnt nova
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Alright ima tell you all how to play piccolo

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1: spam special beam cannon without charging it

final robin
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Why

burnt nova
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2: do nothing else

final robin
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Ah

burnt nova
final robin
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Understandable

idle owl
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if you getting jumped strategic escape might be the play over snowball

final robin
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No need, just special beam cannon

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I either kill all or die doing nothing

waxen juniper
final robin
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God vegeta also makes your arm useless

jagged crane
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max demon whip can get out of range of max skill 2

magic sail
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Imma try to learn piccolo

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How should i play him?

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And what cards should i use?

brittle trench
# magic sail How should i play him?

Your the sniper in the backline. You mainly wanna stay away from people unless your chasing to confirm a kill, don't over extend though. You can also use mind games to make people think your running on low ho then turning to hit a light grenade taking a majority of their hp.

swift rain
waxen juniper
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so the hiding in a bush/cloud thing doesn't do anything if you're mid-charge

brittle trench
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like your just outside their vision so they have to choose to actively fly away from boss and target you most of the time allowing you to charge long enough to snipe the kill, obviously dont start charging before you know you can kill it with SBC but otherwise the strat does work

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i normally just stay outside the range they can see me, use my teammates as a way to see what is going on near boss, and use light grenade myself to snipe a kill but SBC works too

waxen juniper
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bushes are the first places they look for you so I’d actually advise against it at least in higher ranks

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it’s better to be flying around but behind and somewhat near a teammate

nimble stag
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any idea how piccolo can stay out of ssg vegetas grips while still contributing?

olive needle
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Also if you do get caught make sure to wait out his god bind before you s3 or you'll just s3 in place and go nowhere

fiery moon
nimble stag
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ah that explains some things, thanks @fiery moon @olive needle Zeno2

azure marlin
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I can't aim

nimble stag
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picolo feels like a great character to get used to gaining awareness of movement space

nimble stag
# azure marlin I can't aim

I recently tried a new idea for aiming, if a teammate is fighting in range of light grenade or special beam cannon you can press and hold the hotkey for lock on teammate and attack button while not moving (or minimally) when in good position to focus on them, you'll be able to see the end of the attacks range esp if a tank is fighting opponents who are piled on them (or can use the minimap but from my expereince minimap is less accurate) additionally having hz grenade hit an enemy who escaped slows them down making it eaiser to keep them in melee range or escape could also predict where a low hp opponent will run when their hp gets low and prefiring to the location

these are things I've been making up while playing though and they've been working pretty well

tldr.

  • stay far back (preferably tip of attack range circle if safe or further back if dangerous)
  • try getting level 3 grenade for max safety range
  • set play hz grenades
  • use teammate camera (hotkey can be assigned in controls settings) while far enough during aiming
  • angle attacks (stand in a clear line straight or diagonal) to avoid accidentally hitting npcs hold and release teammate lock to check for npcs
  • don't set quick cast on at least I don't do that so you can hold readjust and see where you're shooting before you fire
  • predict movement location if their hp gets too low and they want to escape (bc dmg is higher the more distance gained so them running actually boosts the damage if it doesn't hit something else or miss)

I'm still fairly new to the game but I've been having a decent time with piccolo and thought up some things, every mistake is a lesson and if there's anything I've noticed anything from the experience it's if you misstep with piccolo you could easily die for it proper positioning and minimal movement is key (others likely know more still I play for fun sry for the large text wall)

formal citrus
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Which i like but there are just better and easier characters sadly

nimble stag
nimble stag
gleaming geyser
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What are some balance changes that you guys would like to see for Piccolo?

olive needle
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Nothing, he's pretty balanced. If special beam cannon could pierce through damage reduction like defense step that would be good though

slate thorn
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One of my favorite characters to play ✌️

fiery moon
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Piccolo vs Frieza 4th form. I simply cannot. Someone got tips?

tidal ore
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It's a cannon fight. You aren't suppose to win!

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Buuut, as a Frieza player, I'd say go at different angles than normal.

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You know Frieza is going to drop the rocks it front of you to spot your S1, or to stop you from getting a good use out of S3.

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So attack from the front a bit, let him waste his S3, then reposition to use your S1. Or, you need to get better at using S1 from a distance where he cannot see you. That will always be the better choice, but a lot more difficult to achieve.

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I think a Piccolo vs Frieza fight boils down to who is the better sniper. My Death Beams or your Light Grenade.

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And obviously you have to be able to follow through with punishing over extension on either side.

jagged crane
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Light Grenade will place Freeza on disadvantage

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especially if it's distracted by piccolo's teammate

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ive catched them offguard while dealing with a partner

nimble stag
hazy herald
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Honestly with how mobile new characters can be i wouldn't mind if they cut down the main damage light grenade does with direct hits but placed that into it's splash damage instead

tidal ore
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I wish you could control who your hellzone grenades targeted. Even if they did less damage for that targeting.

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Like, you use S2, toss them in the sky. You can leave them as they are now and they get the person that goes under them. Or you can target someone and they rush to them. Do less dmg for each hit after the first one.

tidal ore
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I also want a team finisher like this.

tidal ore
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Gotta love when the boss moves JUST as you fire the sbc.

fiery moon
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I hate that.

tidal ore
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People seem to have a genuine hate for Piccolo players. I don't get it.

nimble stag
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I didnt catch how much damage it did but a recent game sbc full charge at lvl 13 oneshot perfect cell with barrier and buffs somehow

hazy herald