#Piccolo
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You dont like the one shot light grenades?
And since tier 2, Card doesn’t come into play until mid game, I think about it from a mid to late perspective
Light grenade typically does between 50 to 60% damage without giant slayer, so the extra 20% doesn’t confirm
It’s a nice benefit but doesn’t work on bosses or change thresholds
You skip S3 go get max hell zone and light grenade at 8 and gell zone removes enemy barrier
I always put one point into whip at level four, because repositioning is essential
Bosses you only use SBC
For confirms 100%
You can light grenade if it has aggro
Whip is only good for bonus rush dmg for early pressure
Imi
Imo
Its good with playing with hit top
Whip is pretty solid for faster farming, grenade poking reposition, and sbc bailout
No need to max it early/at all but it’s a great one pointer
Ye but farming is already pretty fast
Usually I’m max trap by level 10, max grenade and level 2 beam by 8
Super start nonwithstanding
Ye you can do that or get max hell zone at 8
I’ve considered that but it’s a 15% damage bump per level on grenade
Since we started off talking giant slayer that’s almost giant slayer 🤣
You max grenade and hellzone both at 8
And you always get giant slayer tbh
Its invaluable vs tanks too
I like my level 2 sbc but I have done the double 8 before depending on the game state
If I’m at 8 when sbc is on cd then yeah double skills
Else grenade + sbc 2
Sbc is better with max hell zone tbh specially with aim assist lol
You just pop hell zone and sbc auto lock
You can do some good things with whip but solo q i think not worth
Fair take, I like the outplay but good positioning can make you not “need” it
I just like being able to passive farm without grenade faster
The boosted every 6 seconds is nice
Ye and its shorter with landed rush attacks
You can snowball pretty good with whip and nail with aggressive play
But depends on team tbh and just power farming usually is better
@lyric sundial you ever tried backstab on piccolo
On cloud maps
I’ve tried it before yeah, 6 second light grenades is funny 🤣
Lol
I’m usually in a situation where as soon as I do anything on piccolo, the enemy team makes it their mission to kill me, so I have to keep whip, barrier, and double jump on deck for when they inevitably start chasing me
You normally go LBJ or WW? WW is not bad tbh vs tanks with giant slayer
Makes sense since what I’m doing is taking bosses but-
It’s pretty helpful because them focusing on me lets the other three people just kind of hit them in the back of the head
But if I wasn’t the main target 1000% I’d prioritize damage
I do when I can, but boss positioning, and the urge to farm forces me to play a bit more centrally in the moments that count, I’m willing to have more even trades during the laning phase for stronger pushing during objective phases
There’s a bit of Frieza logic where you take defensives to be able to stand in the enemies face and get off confirms that I use
Barrier lets you charge your cannon in their face and there’s nothing they can do about it, because they can’t kill you fast enough
And nothing beats the double jump to whip escape, lol
Ye see that's what I nticed is the wrong way to play
Never gave me success
You cant contest bosses without your team and its not worth losing snowball tbh
You get barrier around 2nd boss or after tho
You can snipe the kai with LG too
word!!
I'm currently A4 and this strategy no longer works. it made sense up to B-Rank, but higher level games require a bit more engagement
You engage with your team sure but piccolo is just a long range character mostly. His job is to kill people from range. If you not hitting light grenades and late game ults then why play piccolo.
I mean max range abilities too
Free cam
Since Max range hits don’t do more damage than max vision hits it’s better to maintain battle line viability than go for football field shots
yes... but nothing more satisfying than hitting someone from outside view range and 1-shot them 😄
piccolo with new attacker buff gonna be artillitery from backine
just saw and I completely agree 😄
Light Grenades will become cruise missiles
didn't realized this thanks
the skill description says "more damage the further the hit", but it is not exactly like that in reality
Yep, damage caps at basically vision distance
how do I use Free Cam on PlayStation?
and can I shoot at Bosses from outside view range if someone else has already engaged in combat?
Yes, bosses only have the barrier if none of your team is fighting them
giant slayer better as piccolo then solid barrier, being able to got more damage at the start of fights is key it late game scraps, use botamo to keep people off points / you
Idk man
World king kinda op now
Does giant slayer even work on the first attack
Just tested and it does, yes. It adds about 27% damage on top of light grenade.
But you're forgoing solid barrier which is extremely important for holding onto your snowball stacks. I don't think it's worth it
just never get hit 
Thanks. I'll try
i feel liek anyone giving their advice best need to show their ranks. whole lot of bad advice im seeing
Agreed
Mid-late game against any competent team, they are going to hard focus you because 1. Dangerous long range artillery and 2. To take your snowball stacks from you
And without solid barrier all it takes is a single combo or ultimate
Or god forbid an opposing piccolo 1-shotting you and diffing you entirely
Also yeah world king got buffed by like 300%
is it % or base damage?
125 to 300...
125 damage or 125%
300 damage or 300%?
It's adding to your atk stat. They buffed world king by about 300%
So he now gives 350 atk all
As far as how does that affect your damage, I don't know. I don't know what the calculation is or how much atk stat contributes to damage. But it's pretty substantial as we see how affective Gohan's strike atk boost is
might need to test it in Practive and see how much more damage is caused with and without King...
has Piccolo's Ult Lvl 1 become a little bit wider after the update, or is it just impression?
still the same
maybe it's because I haven't played on my living room's TV for a couple of weeks and everything looks bigger now hahaha
thats actually true
Light Grenade damage early in the game is not high enough. even with the range, it doesn't really "change the game"
Hellzone range and slow movement speed will definitely harass the other team a lot more, early on
yea i used world king for first time since season 2 its crazy good
i just went world king and giant slayer
sniping folks for massive damage
For any Piccolo players did they change the minimap camera movement at all because I can't charge SBC now and use the camera or it automatically releases it
Piccolo is p cool, what tips can you give? Any good skill order and card recs?
S3 is fun to chase evading enemies and finish them off
S1 auto aim is good, but you often miss distant shots on running targets if you don't take their path into consideration
His order is s1, s1, s2/s3, ult, s2/s3 (whichever you haven't picked yet), skip level 7, ult and s1, and after that what you pick doesn't really matter
Good cards are snowball barrier warrior
Excellent, thank you
Best piccolo write up, would pin it if I could
I’ve got to start practicing warrior over LBJ, I like my safety but he does rush a lot, matter of taste there
Thanks, means a lot 😅
The reason to go warrior over lbj is skill 3 since it already gives you an escape tool
I’m going to make my training character for the day, I use LBJ as a crutch when wicked would give me more pressure
Ayy some I’m not crazy
But Ltj is never bad though
When I do well on piccolo enemy divers like hit make it their mission to harass tou
So the mobility ain’t bad
Wicked warrior works yeah
Piccolo attacks crazy fast and weirdly enough
People don’t use his own passive enough lmao
The reduction is crazy
And actually using skill 3 to cycle your empowered auto makes him rly mobile mid fight
it's a good combo with his arm stretch, yeah
how do you aura farm with piccolo
Run full blue cards with major metallic
How
Just how, really
I struggle so much
Sadly in the current meta he's going to have a hard time with all the stuns and CCs
You let your team engage and you set up S2 on their fight and Light Grenade. You just pray they can peel for you
Ok though dependant
Skill 3 is your bread and butter for mobility
And personally maxing that second is a lot more self peel value than second skill
Try using that . Though sadly for Gohan I’m still struggling for a solution
I am thinking maybe
Decoy is good this season bs gohan
js stay behind your teammate
get light grenade up asap and snipe him
You want skill 1 and 2 only skill 3 is low elo bait
You need skill 2 to break solid barrier
what will skill 2 do vs the people rushing you?
@paper gyro hey man, you play picolo your way but i promise you your tank is already freely breaking solid barrier off them for free every fight
skill 3 is amazing cause incase you forgot picolo light grenade does nothing close range to an enemy
its a good re position and chase tool
You shouldnt be close anyway on piccolo lol
If you let someone rush you, you just have bad positioning/decision making
in that sense ssj3 players should never die no matter what
sorry buddy
we are all human
What Skill 2 does is give pressure to a brawl that you're hopefully not inside. It's more for giving your team some cover while you're doing your part
Personally I use it to either cover my teammates escape
Or zone off areas for enemies to find it hard to escape
And that can’t be done till the thing is maxxed out
So personally I just ignore it till late game . Not completely bht not my focus to max it
The skill 3 range is kind of needed for the massive aoe a lot of herous have
If you’re not putting one point in s3 for faster farming you’re playing piccolo incorrectly
That’s not even adding in reposition value
It’s low priority to max certainly, but it’s a one point grab for sure
Yeah
I won’t say my maxing technique
Is law
I play piccolo aggressively
I def 1 point it. But I focus it last
I don't know what's going on. I'm either playing with Piccolo bots or I'm playing with Piccolo players that don't like going the different lanes, and be dying too much.
It’s a multiplayer game . Sadly you get many types of people
Dont take it personally
lol
I just went 15-0 705k dmg on piccolo took all bosses and we lost because my team didn't want to take towers.
S rank lobby by the way
Was fun tho
Saying that isn't helping buddy. You act like I never played a moba game before, because this is what this game is. It's not just multiplayer game, it's a moba. Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. My point is every time that I have a Piccolo on my team, they are always so bad. They are either bots or real people.
wanna know why i said that
what are you implying?
saying that
in the picolo tab in the server
either two things
you dont know how to play with a picolo
bro just typin shi
you have bad luck
im tryna be nice cause i get dude is frustrated but
this game has like thousands of players
yeah and piccolo needs quite a bit of skill
many players will not be able to figure him out
he isnt even that hard
legit just learn to aim the skill and know to keep your distance
or just abuse controller auto aim like me 😂
but yeah the game is annoying sometimes but it's the same as every moba in ranked soloq
you can only focus on your own gameplay though tbh
its rare to find a god piccolo though too
some people do need to be perma banned from match making tho tbh
If you are in S rank lobbies and you don't have basic critical thinking ability you should get temp banned for 2 days, then 7 days then 14
I would think auto aim would be bad on a piccolo
Its pretty good man, late game auto lock ult hits. And ez light grenades
I thought auto aim just locked you on to someone wouldn't that just lauch lgs where they were and not where they're going to be
It follows the player ye, but its at long range so most of the time it hits. People dont move vertically usually only horizontally
Mouse prob way better, i just havent used it much.
I free aim on some shots though, you need to
That's like saying you don't know how to play with Ultimate Gohan despite the Gohan playing like trash, but fine don't answer my question.
You're asking a stupid question that's why you didn't get an answer... You're asking a question that you should be able to answer if you see bad piccolos and can tell they're bad but can't tell why that sounds like skill issue and no we can't answer your question about piccolos you've been seeing without context
your question has no answer . You arent the centre of the world , i see plenty of good picolos to answer why i see good ones and you see bad ones? idk what you want to us to say? i already said its unlucky and there are lot of different players but you didnt accept that so idk .
bro things anyone who doesn't do what HE would do as Piccolo is a bad player. this is the answer...
Just saw some piccolo snipe the middle boss from half stage away
as long as the shield is down, you should be able to snipe
Ye you can 🤣
Ye it should be noted here
Been using piccolo for a bit. The cards I use are Snowball, Barrier, Wicked Warrior.
Is Snowball the play, or should I swap for something else?
How to land light grenade 💡🥴
- the longer range the less they can see, gamers have low vision range. 2. Honestly, shoot nearby farm with it, AoE still gonna tear their butt off
Yeah but I miss 🥴
The further away the more damage. But I miss
Lead the shot. Think of how they're gonna move and have them intercept Light Grenade with face
You also should use the camera if you can to lead your own shot outside of range (note, do not know how to set config to make that something I can do properly)
Hi guys, i‘m thinking about playing piccolo so can someone give me a description of his best moves, cards, how to play the early and mid game and what to do in team fights or fights to secure the boss. Thanks in advance
Get 2 levels in lg early game then get the arm
After getting ult get s2 and save your point at lv 7 for ult lv2 and lg lv 3
Alright after a few matches I have some questions like how should I secure the first Kai with light grenade if they can just body block it
I mean it has like zero aoe on lvl 1
and where should I position myself when it’s time for bosses so I can’t easily get stunned or chased while charging the sbc
If they body block, just kill them. Alternatively, just start shooting their Damage, force them off the Kai and then secure.
For boss, don't engage, let the team engage and lock them up. You set up on your side of the map. Also, World King
Sometimes you may need to fire right before you die, sometimes you may need to sit back and judge a situation
okay thanks
And remember, most are dead if they get caught in the SBC at full charge
yeah true it‘s just that I had the situation with this gotenks that kept stunning and chasing me
but our goku could secure
i‘m still learning him tho and that’s why I didn’t exactly know what to do
getting 2 levels on Light Grenade right away means you are relying on your teammate to defend you
something that works on party but in solo que is a gamble with you on the losing side most of the time
Yeah but if you go bot lane which imo a piccolo always should and snipe the kai that's level 4 and your escape tool right there
most of the opponents i face on bottom try to target me just for being Piccolo, even just ignoring my tank to get me lol
not saying it doesn't work but is quite risky
Happens
It gets worse when bosses spawn, I specifically don't engage bosses until I hunt down Piccolo and/or Goku
I just want to know why we have the Gamma heroes but Piccolo doesn't get his Orange transformation...? This feel like b.s to anyone else? Lol
Goku and Vegeta are from Namekusei and Android saga
They'll make a pay skin. Maybe a different form of piccolo.
@jagged crane True, they at least did ssj4 Vegeta..
@fiery moon Oof.. Hopefully not paid. I want that transformation added! Lol.
That would be dope man.
I'm in training mode. Trying to look at numbers.
However I can not. lol
Piccolo snipes too far and I can't see the damage that he deals to the block. Suggestions or better, Data?
the maximum amount of damage his S1 does is around his vision/what he can see upclose so landing a light grenade from all the way from the back via squad sight doesn't do any extra damage
I thought that the damage is increased per distance.
It does
From close range it does nothing
But from his max vision range it does more damage
So lv3 light grenade damage per distance is around/the same distance as lv2's but you you get to be able to use it from a much bigger distance
So it isn't the max distance but the max vision?
Yep
Shame. Lol
That just means you don't need to back up as much as you think you would to blow someone away with it
Tru
Okay I am solo q ing and my teammates are always under levelled (I’m c5 so no wonder why), someone said piccolo is the best solo q dps, is this true and if so why
as long as you has good spacing and prioritize demon whip alongside light grenade it should be good for solo q
though, he's still on the hard side
My goat and my favorite character
Genuinely piccolo probably one of the best dps in the game
hes goated
i wish ppl understood that you have to be near the boss so we can snipe him
its frustrating to sit there charging sbc just to have your team not even on the obj to use it
Yeah and then they spam ping you like it's exclusively you're fault that your team didn't get the boss
it's best to Run Super Snowball, Solid Barrier and Limit Breaking Jump
combination of high damage for K.O.'s/Assists, high defense for almost 2 seconds so you can repotition and double vanishing step for said repositioning
you could run Giant Slayer instead of Solid Barrier to ramp up damage even more with light grenade but you would be with almost no defenses at the entirity of the game
also don't spend points on Hellzone trap
it's best for you to upgrade Light Grenade and Demon Whip at max
skip a point on level 7 so you can max light grenade and Upgrade Makankosappo at level 8
Lmao I always did 1-1 (into grenade and trap)
I thought demon whip was the useless move honestly
But ill alternate
I also rlly like giant slayer
skill 2 still looks like a skip, gotta test
Does his s3 get any upgrades from leveling up or is it just range?
range
but it's essential for him since it's his main mobility option
Alright ima tell you all how to play piccolo
1: spam special beam cannon without charging it
Why
2: do nothing else
Ah
Because that's how you win tournaments
Understandable
if you getting jumped strategic escape might be the play over snowball
I've done this vs Caulifla cause she makes your arm useless
God vegeta also makes your arm useless
only if it's not maxed out
max demon whip can get out of range of max skill 2
Your the sniper in the backline. You mainly wanna stay away from people unless your chasing to confirm a kill, don't over extend though. You can also use mind games to make people think your running on low ho then turning to hit a light grenade taking a majority of their hp.
Hide in bush/cloud, Charge Ult, look at boss and fire
charging Special Beam Cannon makes you visible to everyone no matter where you are
so the hiding in a bush/cloud thing doesn't do anything if you're mid-charge
the hiding in the bush is more so to stop them from noticing immediately
like your just outside their vision so they have to choose to actively fly away from boss and target you most of the time allowing you to charge long enough to snipe the kill, obviously dont start charging before you know you can kill it with SBC but otherwise the strat does work
i normally just stay outside the range they can see me, use my teammates as a way to see what is going on near boss, and use light grenade myself to snipe a kill but SBC works too
I did say mid charge
bushes are the first places they look for you so I’d actually advise against it at least in higher ranks
it’s better to be flying around but behind and somewhat near a teammate
any idea how piccolo can stay out of ssg vegetas grips while still contributing?
Solid barrier and make sure you stay away and spam light grenades
Also if you do get caught make sure to wait out his god bind before you s3 or you'll just s3 in place and go nowhere
Use the arm to get away like eugon said. IF you see the vegeta, start moving away already. Assume he's gonna come after you
ah that explains some things, thanks @fiery moon @olive needle 
I can't aim
picolo feels like a great character to get used to gaining awareness of movement space
I recently tried a new idea for aiming, if a teammate is fighting in range of light grenade or special beam cannon you can press and hold the hotkey for lock on teammate and attack button while not moving (or minimally) when in good position to focus on them, you'll be able to see the end of the attacks range esp if a tank is fighting opponents who are piled on them (or can use the minimap but from my expereince minimap is less accurate) additionally having hz grenade hit an enemy who escaped slows them down making it eaiser to keep them in melee range or escape could also predict where a low hp opponent will run when their hp gets low and prefiring to the location
these are things I've been making up while playing though and they've been working pretty well
tldr.
- stay far back (preferably tip of attack range circle if safe or further back if dangerous)
- try getting level 3 grenade for max safety range
- set play hz grenades
- use teammate camera (hotkey can be assigned in controls settings) while far enough during aiming
- angle attacks (stand in a clear line straight or diagonal) to avoid accidentally hitting npcs hold and release teammate lock to check for npcs
- don't set quick cast on at least I don't do that so you can hold readjust and see where you're shooting before you fire
- predict movement location if their hp gets too low and they want to escape (bc dmg is higher the more distance gained so them running actually boosts the damage if it doesn't hit something else or miss)
I'm still fairly new to the game but I've been having a decent time with piccolo and thought up some things, every mistake is a lesson and if there's anything I've noticed anything from the experience it's if you misstep with piccolo you could easily die for it proper positioning and minimal movement is key (others likely know more still I play for fun sry for the large text wall)
Since you get trageted so much you actually have to be smart and move around and find the perfect opportunity
Which i like but there are just better and easier characters sadly
yep, I like that about piccolo he really makes you need to be cautious of your distance and attack range movement efficiency is key and light grenade is a really strong nuke i use it with elder kai and attack buffs to allow a bit more back range spamming
overstepping is death it's actually true experience is teaching me that but his attack range is also really big which is nice
What are some balance changes that you guys would like to see for Piccolo?
Nothing, he's pretty balanced. If special beam cannon could pierce through damage reduction like defense step that would be good though
One of my favorite characters to play ✌️
Piccolo vs Frieza 4th form. I simply cannot. Someone got tips?
It's a cannon fight. You aren't suppose to win!
Buuut, as a Frieza player, I'd say go at different angles than normal.
You know Frieza is going to drop the rocks it front of you to spot your S1, or to stop you from getting a good use out of S3.
So attack from the front a bit, let him waste his S3, then reposition to use your S1. Or, you need to get better at using S1 from a distance where he cannot see you. That will always be the better choice, but a lot more difficult to achieve.
I think a Piccolo vs Frieza fight boils down to who is the better sniper. My Death Beams or your Light Grenade.
And obviously you have to be able to follow through with punishing over extension on either side.
Light Grenade will place Freeza on disadvantage
especially if it's distracted by piccolo's teammate
ive catched them offguard while dealing with a partner
bit more attack range (even though its pretty big already) and maybe light grenade can debuff enemies defense and give blindness for a short period of time?
Honestly with how mobile new characters can be i wouldn't mind if they cut down the main damage light grenade does with direct hits but placed that into it's splash damage instead
I wish you could control who your hellzone grenades targeted. Even if they did less damage for that targeting.
Like, you use S2, toss them in the sky. You can leave them as they are now and they get the person that goes under them. Or you can target someone and they rush to them. Do less dmg for each hit after the first one.
I also want a team finisher like this.
And a solo finisher like this: https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Piccolo-Kills-Wings-Dragon-Ball-Z.jpg
I'ma an mvp where he aura farms like this would be a great add too: https://x.com/PiccoloGrill/status/1894021610929103272
Gotta love when the boss moves JUST as you fire the sbc.
I'd rather it move. And I know that it was me with crap timiing. However what I can't stand. Is how the barrier picks and chooses when it wants to be up.
I hate that.
Yeaaaah.
People seem to have a genuine hate for Piccolo players. I don't get it.
I didnt catch how much damage it did but a recent game sbc full charge at lvl 13 oneshot perfect cell with barrier and buffs somehow
The one buff i always belive hellzone trap should get is that getting hit by one applies the "marked" status effect starting at lv2
And when the skills expires/is canceled early the surrounding bullets (max of 3-5) would home in on marked targets
Make that his legendary intro
And his spin kick vs imperfect cell as his finisher
