#Easier MineCells Health Flask Crafting

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sterile snow
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I don't think I've ever once had a problem with having enough of these throughout any of my playthroughs, once you get a few points of Luck stat you find more than you know what to do with just from going through a few Prisoners Quarters, which tbh you should be doing early game regardless because of how good the loot is for early game

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And eating food to recover gives you plenty, there's a custom regen factor that heals a percentage of your max hp per second when your hunger bar is full

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you don't have to be using exclusively health flasks to heal hp, if you're doing that you're wasting them

hollow cipher
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i agree but needing to loot for a few bits of healing, that i don't agree with

hollow delta
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didnt they have a semi easy recipe anyways

sterile snow
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you don't have to though, there's a recipe too yeah

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i haven't even had to use the recipe tho is my point

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just by looting the prisoners quarters and other mine cells dimensions for other stuff i end up with more than enough flasks in the process

hollow cipher
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the recipe IS somewhat easy but it's not worth at all

sterile snow
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that genuinely made no sense im ngl

hollow cipher
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the craft only gives one singular flask

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being able to craft them would be really nice for super early on

hollow delta
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show the craft rq

hollow cipher
unkempt summit
hollow cipher
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"for me personally" yea, i'm sure it is

unkempt summit
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well, let's objectively break this down right?

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glass bottles, smelt a bunch of sand

hollow cipher
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for someone who doesn't want to farm minecells endlessly, it's super tedious

unkempt summit
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flesh, farm minecells mobs, not too difficult, and those blue orbs, same thing

hollow cipher
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just a couple runs get you quite a bit of early game stuff and you don't need to really waste any more time after that for a while

unkempt summit
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now here's the trick ya ready?

  • only use these flasks on bosses or important fights
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you will not need these flasks for anything else other than the harder fights, there's a lot of tricks to other fights

hollow cipher
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yea, it's pretty obvious to use REALLY good healing items for boss fights...anyone smart enough knows to do that in any difficult game

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sometimes you just have to use it outside of those times

unkempt summit
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i really do disagree, you don't have to use these flasks outside of harder fights, there's many other ways to heal, such as comfort buff food, rice is pretty easy to make but if you do villagers you can get best comfort buff food in-game when you have master butcher

then there's nourishment buff food, also very good and the same thing applies

there's also the banner of undying trinket, pretty good especially when you pair that with a charm of regen II

there's also golden apples

so i don't think you have to use it out of those times, you have to kinda learn to play it safe so that you don't panic-use it and prepare ahead instead to use something else

also, learning boss patterns and dodging really helps, the ol' running in circle strat to see what attacks the boss does while dodging it, movement speed trinkets really help with this a lot, it's an rpg, a bit of a challenging one at times, so that's the stuff you have to learn

hollow cipher
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i honestly don't remember having this much trouble with early game a couple years ago when i last did a full play through

hollow delta
unkempt summit
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it wasn't balanced a couple of years ago, there really was no challenge at all in this pack

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that wasn't really the goal for this pack a couple of years ago, it was just a new pack and things came with time

hollow cipher
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yea, that's fair enough

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but an early game player right now doesn't have access to those things you mentioned above unless they go straight for it

unkempt summit
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well yeah, that's why asking for advice can help

hollow cipher
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and also have to know those mechanics exist

unkempt summit
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if you go in blind, expect a pretty crazy challenge just because you lack knowledge

hollow cipher
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i usually don't even think about nourishment buffs within 5 minutes of starting

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i'm not asking for anything to be made EASIER perse, but rather just some QoL to prevent unnecessary looting

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i hate going into the minecells knowing how horrible the loot is for mid-game but yet i need to for just a few flasks

unkempt summit
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we could potentially put these flasks in the starter kit, maybe 10 of them or so, and then include a quest in the getting started section about them and their importance @hollow delta as they are the best healing in the entire pack outside of abilities from a healer build

hollow delta
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if you do the gear quest you get like 15

sterile snow
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there's already a quest in the combat and gear section that gives like a stack of them too

unkempt summit
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that could be a nice qol i think

sterile snow
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one of the earlier quests yeah

unkempt summit
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i see

hollow cipher
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🤷‍♂️

sterile snow
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not the mine cells section

hollow delta
sterile snow
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reward for this one

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hollow cipher
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oh that one..12 isn't a full stack though

hollow delta
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give em a finger they take the whole hand

sterile snow
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brother it's like 4 short

unkempt summit
hollow delta
unkempt summit
hollow cipher
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so nothing to make them any easier to obtain?

hollow delta
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well, kill more mobs there

unkempt summit
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tbh, they are kinda already easy to obtain, like, i do think the prisons are easy enough, early game you really don't have to even worry about them that much i would say, and then there's a quest that gives you 12 free ones so yeah

sterile snow
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both of the mine cells bosses give 24 monster cells each btw

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and each portal coordinate has one of each of the bosses automatically

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neither of them are particularly difficult

hollow cipher
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just because they're easy doesn't mean it doesn't take time to clear them out

unkempt summit
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i mean, yeah takes a bit of time but like, nothing major imo

sterile snow
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clear out what? you can literally just run to conjunctivius

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maybe have to fight like 5 easy mobs along the way

hollow cipher
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i'm not talking about bosses

unkempt summit
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well you can if you are level 25 and have the vine rune, but still, I think clearing the mobs out isn't too hard

hollow delta
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i can add a mid/lategame recipe for now

unkempt summit
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or that time-consuming compared to like, grinding enchants (even the quick way)

hollow cipher
unkempt summit
hollow cipher
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me personally, i don't want to run through low level areas just to get the best item for healing

unkempt summit
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you might wanna do it anyway because you can get unique simply swords and such, as well as quick emeralds and diamonds

hollow cipher
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if you find one early on, you're going to be using that for a while until you need the one you need for your artifact weapon

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shouldn't there be a more convenient way instead of just opening a million chests just for that one SPECIFIC weapon for the artifact you want?

unkempt summit
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well, currently there is, bulk haunt skele skulls into wither skele skulls and farm withers

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in 4.0, you can trade a special currency for unique simply swords as well

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and there's contained remnants

hollow cipher
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i don't remember wither and dragon having guaranteed simply swords drops unless that's changed

unkempt summit
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not guaranteed but easy to mass farm now

hollow cipher
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that's fair i guess

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if bulk farming withers is the convenient way, how are players getting the skulls needed?

unkempt summit
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bulk haunt skele skulls into wither skele skulls

hollow cipher
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..right, but the regular skulls

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anyway..this wasn't about simply swords or the skulls though

unkempt summit
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skele spawners aren't too terribly hard to find, just find a nice structure with them and mark it

mellow magnet
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solution: dont get hit

edgy notch
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Real solution: high dps build + omnivamp + good food + feeder backpack upgrade

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I haven't used any healing flasks since my 2nd playthrough of the pack

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Its even easier now that omnivamp works and bursting vitality works as well