Molten Arrow of the Apocalypse

[naive bough]

Difficulty: Medium

Spellbook:

Alnitak's Might

Armor

Netherite Fire Hat
(Protection V, Magic Protection V, Amplify Spell III, Spell Voltality II, Sunfire V, Multi-Roll VI)

Mutant Skeleton Chestplate
(Protection V, Magic Protection V, Recycler V)

Netherite Ranger Leggings
(Protection V, Magic Protection V, Acrobat IX)

Netherite Ranger Boots
(Protection V, Magic Protection V)

Trim it with Redstone, for reforges aim for Armor, Spell Crit Chance and Speed (robe) and Armor, Draw Speed and Speed (Ranger set).

Mending/Lifemending III BEFORE you get Hardening Catalyst!

Molten Core and other weapons

Orion, Hunter of the Stars
(Power VII, Growing I, Endless Quiver, Fuse Shot IV, Accelerate IV, Bonus Shot IV, Ricochet IV, Chain Reaction IV)

Aim for Crit Chance, Speed and Ranged Damage reforge.

Arrows

You can wear standard Arrows but generally it's good to cycle between them. Use Arrows of Harming (except fighting with undead, than use Healing arrows) in most of the cases. If you fight against something with self - healing, use Arrows of Tainted Ambrosia.

Accesories

Charm: Charm of Speed II
Hat: Any Drinking Hat
Necklace: Pendant of Sunfire
Back: Banner of Undying
Hands: 2x Turtle Bracer OR Amethyst Bracer (depends on what type of enemy you're fighting with)
Rings: 2x Thalassian Ranger Band
Belt: Cloud in a Bottle
Quiver: QUIVER LOL
Shoes: Running Shoes OR Socks upgraded to Usain Bolt speed

Progression:

Try to get Galeforce in the early game and Ranger armor, than upgrade it later on in the game. Replace the Fire Hat with Ranger Hood until you won't get the spellbook and the Orion node. You can use Archery Manual until you won't get Alnitak's Might.

[stone wharf]

Quiver:Quiver lol

[naive bough]

hope you liked my humor

[mystic drift]

[young gale]

This should be sunfire right? Instead of soulfrost

[stone wharf]

yes most likely

@naive bough

[plush drum]

Yes

[naive bough]

edited 🫡

[true nacelle]

soo endless quiver doesnt work when casting skills?

[naive bough]

yes

[true nacelle]

damn and only normal arrows not the special ones

is there a faster way to swap arrows from quivers

[naive bough]

you have a special keybind i think

[near star]

Just keep a stack or two of arrows in your inventory and the modded arrows you want to shoot normally in the quiver

[mystic drift]

Btw i just noticed theres neither attunement or crit thinking on the skill tree, any reason why?

[naive bough]

i wasnt thinking to even tested it

but you can barely make to them tbh xd

tho its possible

[mystic drift]

It is just choose 3 less fire nodes

And i think they should be beneficial

[plush drum]

Attunement doesn't work, crit doesn't do much at all iirc, I have already built elemental archery for the future change done to it

[mystic drift]

Ty

[stone wharf]

:D

[naive bough]

@gray bolt corruption is not there since this build is not playing the active ability
I wasn't a fan of it in this build although you can play it if you want to

than corruption is a thing

[gray bolt]

oh fairs someone told me to play it and im already deep int oit

so might just play it

[naive bough]

than take the active ability in the tree

[naive bough]

you said on the other channel you have 0 corruption

[gray bolt]

oh i ahve 79

idk using dreadtide rn so dont know

[naive bough]

you can infuse armor with corruption

dreadtide is needed to fight with the faceless

these are two different things

[gray bolt]

dont rlly understand you said i dont use corruption on this no

[naive bough]

bruh

???

[gray bolt]

meant got all the gear and enchants and accesories

[naive bough]

got it, I mean you can go with corruption
but personally I'm not a fan of it here

you just wanna run and shoot

[tulip glade]

tested dps between robe hat vs ranger hat it seems that increasing more fire% is weaker than range% gain from ranger hat. this also goes the same with necklace.

although orion's skill tree on alnitak which gives +10 flat fire power, the fire% increased from actual tree and gears (robe hat 30% and sunfire 8%) were not enough because +40%ish for 10 is just 14

meanwhile our base damage from ranged attack is much higher (flat from orion's +20 and sin'dorei +5)

[tulip glade]

the difference :

[mystic drift]

I haven't gotten to testing exact dps for each arrow shot as it seems pretty random with bows

Did you test dps over a period of time?

In my testing i saw both this class and the one on wiki (regular archery) reach comparable dps amounts

[tulip glade]

if you ask for dps as in per second. ranger hood is superior by miles

mainly because of draw speed%

alnitak's arrow shot for bow has 2 instance. one is always the same damage number every shot (in yellow square) and the other one has very high swing range between 160-700 in my case so I excluded that from calculation.

at first I thought the 2nd one has to be fire damage which separate from actual arrow damage but I was wrong. because even with no fire gear some time it still can jumped to 700

btw, I also tested orion skill tree. pure draw speed nodes vs. pure damage nodes

draw speed was superior by far. especially on this build which main damage came from normal shot

hell, I'm losing damage if I press 2-4 skill

[mystic drift]

Ill go ahead and test this again as i remember both the builds dealing around 3k

[mystic drift]

Interesting

Are you standardizing your testing by fully drawing the bow or are you timing your clicks to get optimal shots?

[tulip glade]

yes. I fully drawn my bow with auto fire hook

just hold right click the whole time

do nothing else

[mystic drift]

Im gonna test this

[tulip glade]

I went max draw speed so it shot even faster than skill 2-4 charge time lol

and I don't see much different in using pin down for focused zone

dps still drop

oh, and I'm 6 blocks away from target dummy on this test. I can pump more dps if I stay further perhaps

[mystic drift]

Yeah definitely

Iirc growing starts affecting at 6-8 blocks

And caps at 32

[tulip glade]

yeah

[mystic drift]

I found a kinda crazy interaction with this build lol

Basically u stand 1 block away from your target and spam the bow

U get 4k+ damage free

4k dps*

[tulip glade]

great interaction but can't use in real combat so...

[stone wharf]

Use chemical x

They deal 25 extra dmg lol

[lean basin]

i only get 1.7k dps with the ranger hood builder, am I missing something? I'm just holding right click as well with the hook

[mystic drift]

Obsidilith:

[mystic drift]

Bow damage is pretty random

Also are you sure you're completely maxed?

[lean basin]

im not sure if im maxed

[lean basin]

it was sustained dps, i was shooting for around 10s

[tulip glade]

I'm not sure how/when target dummy 'reset' the dps count so the best I can do was relogin then do fresh 20 shots per test

[lean basin]

breaking the dummy and replacing it is enough to reset the dps

[tulip glade]

if I stay and keep shooting even first set of dps number disappeared it still show less and less number over time

[lean basin]

as far as my build go, I did the talents, same for orion and I chose altinak + enchants

[tulip glade]

yeah, breaks and replace it also works

[mystic drift]

It does average of the last 5 seconds i think?

[tulip glade]

maybe player's side also effects dps. i.e. server latency or even fps

[mystic drift]

But break and replace each time u want to test a new burst of damage

[tulip glade]

I got mine set at 60 fps so minecraft won't make my PC burn

[lean basin]

minecraft is tick based so higher fps doesn't affect

[mystic drift]

So you didn't choose a passive?

💀 💀 💀 💀

[tulip glade]

it does if your game stutter/suffering from graphic setting

[lean basin]

i mean when I read the passives

it wouldn't affect the dps

focus zone is unused

[mystic drift]

It does 😭

[lean basin]

and im not on a horse

[mystic drift]

Then pick the one up and right of the horse one

It gives u +10% arrow velocity

Literally more damage

[tulip glade]

-10% draw speed

[mystic drift]

Doesn't matter

[lean basin]

-10 draw yeah

[mystic drift]

Dont fully draw

[tulip glade]

matter for alnitak

man, we test it with fully drawn + auto hook to standardize it

[mystic drift]

Yes but ideally you shouldn't be fully drawing

[tulip glade]

ideally archer won't stay close to spam shots.

also make use of growing

[lean basin]

hmm

yeah it does increase

[mystic drift]

You don't need to stay close

You can fire a full damage arrow by shooting like 3-4 times a second

And accelerate lets you draw faster

[lean basin]

i get 3k dps with barely charged

[mystic drift]

See

[plush drum]

I tested elemental archery for literal hours lol, and I got the best and most consistent results with a netherite fire hat, you have to shoot for well over 10 seconds and you have to do this many times to get an accurate average of how you're gonna perform

[tulip glade]

yeah, you can try with that build. and swap draw speed out to damage% in orion tree since you don't need it any more

[plush drum]

this goes for all builds

[tulip glade]

if you're not gonna fully drawn

[lean basin]

hmm I actually get a dps loss from using the passive

with full draw speed I can shoot higher damage arrows much faster

[tulip glade]

not sure if it effected but testing in survival might be better. since in creative you might accidently used impossible to combined enchantments (i.e. spell stuff in ranger armor and such)

[stone wharf]

tap more

you hold too long

[mystic drift]

Wait guys i got an idea...

Theres a block that increases explosion damage

Does it even work with this

XD

[plush drum]

doubt

[stone wharf]

no chemical x arrows too

[tulip glade]

I rather stick with ambrosia arrow on most lazy setup. no ammunition changes / less button press but yeah, chemical X can increases dps a lot.

[lean basin]

i tried tapping more but it doesn't add that much anymore

auto hook doesn't look on this bow

[stone wharf]

i dont recommend auto hook ever

[lean basin]

you charge to max speed way before the bow is fully drawn

yeah

[stone wharf]

draw speed on orion and shortbows is too high

[tulip glade]

puepose of testing is not to find way to make more dps. is tested to compare dps between fire% vs range% on gears under same circumstance.

[stone wharf]

and longbows dont need it bc you either overcharge or use them normally

[tulip glade]

we got divertion here lol

[stone wharf]

i mean if yo uwan the scalings on everything you can also look into my datapack

i got the changelog on there aswell if that is of any help

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/data-packs/archers-expansion-datapack-for-prominence-ii-rpg

[lean basin]

what does this change

[stone wharf]

this was the initial buff to all elemental archer spellbooks

tons of changes

any change ive done ive documented

[lean basin]

ic

[brisk ridge]

How get Alnitak's Might? pls help

[naive bough]

!emi

[tiny flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1369148331078455366/1385946689034129508/image.png?ex=6857eaf0&is=68569970&hm=a676788f618bb0c334f4640a659f3c358043b5ca9e2208f375eae12ec06027f6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[crude harness]

For this build would casper or orion work better?

[mystic drift]

Casper, for this specific build

[crude harness]

So for rotation first proc focus then spam arrows then?

[mystic drift]

You can grab the orion one if you build it like #1369112054270787655

[mystic drift]

Yes

[crude harness]

Cool ty

[crude harness]

Should I get a mixture of draw speed and damage as per the shown orion talents or would pure draw speed outvalue it?

[crude harness]

bump

[mystic drift]

i feel like damage + draw is better

[primal trail]

how to deal with enderman with this build x.x

[mystic drift]

2x ruby swords

dual wield

[frigid jacinth]

This is a bit confusing. Should the two "won't" be taken out?

Also what is the damage cycle for this build? Does it require constant arrow swaps because of spells only working with normal arrows?

Lastly, if I went with this build on a single player world, what is the answer to bosses like the fallen icon that are immune to arrows?

[naive bough]

for fallen icon you can take the active ability, it goes through the invulnerability

although im not sure it works for him but technically it should

and this build has no specific rotation, mainly you just run and shoot

[frigid jacinth]

Oh sweet alright. Thank you.

[proud sinew]

What do i put in quiver slot qwq

[naive bough]

arrows?

[proud sinew]

It was a joke lol

[surreal heron]

is this recommend to my orion bow?

[naive bough]

no

[surreal heron]

thank you my orion bow is 9/10 enchant what do ya think is what i lack?

[naive bough]

how do you have power 13?

when the cap is locked on 7?

[surreal heron]

the developer of my server increase it to 30

[naive bough]

enjoy complete unbalance then

[surreal heron]

ohh

what if i only insert 7?

[mystic drift]

Get power 30 bro

U dont really need anything else ur just gonna melt everything

[stark nest]

@naive bough is this worth to make?

the build

[mystic drift]

Yes

Its super strong

[stark nest]

You think it's funner to use then your hammer wrath one?

In your opinion ofc

[mystic drift]

I feel like archer is too safe for me

Ur just too far away from everything and u dodge everything

U deal insane damage tho

Depends on the person but i like to be close range

[stark nest]

It looks cool so im gonna do it just the hammer one depends on corruption so :p. and also what would be a good bow until I get the bow on the build

[mystic drift]

Get a mechanical shortbow > netherite shortbow > galeforce > crystal shortbow

Then orion

[hollow ocean]

what does fire do in the build?

[mystic drift]

ur spellbook is composed of fire abilities

[tiny moth]

how do you have prot and magic prot? i cant put the 2 of these together

[plush drum]

wrong magic prot

get the one with longer description

[tiny moth]

aah okok

[small garnet]

how? can u tell me

[stone wharf]

you cant

the person he replied to modified their server to shits

[small garnet]

ahahaha ic ic

btw i cant put enigma resonator to my bow, why?

its 9/10 enchant

[mystic drift]

Incompatible with something maybe

Dynamo i think

But imo enigma is better than dynamo

[small garnet]

ic

[opal bloom]

is this a good build for duel 1v1

[stone wharf]

Builds here arent made for pvp

[mystic drift]

sure

try it

[opal bloom]

omg stalemated, may i know ur enchants on armor and weapons. i watch u duel before with my friend and u were amazing

[stone wharf]

bros famous

[ancient seal]

how can i get the recycler enchant

[plush drum]

just like any other enchant

ideally enchant bows though if you wanna try and filter it or do villagers

[ancient seal]

can't seem to obtain that enchantment specifically

I have a maxed out enchanting setup

[plush drum]

probably because you would need a lower level enchant setup to actually get it based on rarity of enchant

[ancient seal]

I doesn't appear as obtainable in the quesiton mark on the enchanting table

I already tried lowerin g level of enchant

[mystic drift]

Prob need low arcana

[plush drum]

the good news is you don't need recylcer if you have a fletcher villager though or several, which you should have tbh

[mystic drift]

Yeah or just endless quiver

[frank wadi]

Should I use full mutant skelly plus the fire hat for armor in this build?

Also what about auto hook?

[plush drum]

Half and half probably, no fire hat needed, only auto hook if you don't wanna deal with tap shooting technique

[frank wadi]

Is this good armor?

[frank wadi]

What is the tap shooting technique? Also does it increase dps by a lot?

[plush drum]

Good enough

[frank wadi]

Could it be better, besides the helmet reforge?

[plush drum]

Release right before full draw, requires precise timing

[frank wadi]

Oh also what about corruption

[frank wadi]

I see

[plush drum]

Corruption is ok if you use Rapid-fire for marksmanship buff

[frank wadi]

I’m just going with the pinned skill tree

[naive bough]

it's not here, cuz this build is not using the active skill
I simply didn't like it in this build, you can play it if you want

[sharp swallow]

not a gun build......😢

[mystic drift]

No buildmakers available...

[naive bough]

I'm too lazy

lol

[mystic drift]

Dw i will make it

[naive bough]

go ahead, I probably won't make any build till 4.0

although I still have some unused ideas in mind

[mystic drift]

Nice

[plush drum]

I will do a pirate themed build specifically after 4.0 release

[hoary bear]

what spell shopuld i get for spellbook

[naive bough]

all 4

[placid meadow]

is this better than the frost one i did th efrost one a while ago and it was good

[mystic drift]

Not better, just a different playstyle

[placid meadow]

wokay ty boss

[remote canopy]

Is the build still fine or some changes could be done?

[mystic drift]

still good

[remote canopy]

I see

[modest knot]

what spellbook or tome should i be using before altinaks might?

[naive bough]

.

[modest knot]

i dont understand this as well sorry "Replace the Fire Hat with Ranger Hood until you won't get the spellbook and the Orion node"

replace my ranger hood with fire hat after i get alnitaks might?

[naive bough]

yes

[modest knot]

ok thanks

[naive bough]

although you can keep netherite ranger hood

[modest knot]

even with alnitaks might

[naive bough]

yeah, cuz also mutant skeleton armor got buffed

havent tested what is the best in this particular build

i gave fire hat and sunfire signet there for more fire damage

[modest knot]

u think i need any spell infinity for this or nah

[naive bough]

no

just have a lot of arrows

[modest knot]

doesnt endless quiver solve that

[naive bough]

no

archer abilities still use arrows

[modest knot]

gotcha

so i should be using galeforce until orion?

[modest knot]

also is magic prot necessary? not a lot of mobs use magic ive noticed

[mystic drift]

nah

[modest knot]

what should i replace it w then ya think

[mystic drift]

just use regular prot

[modest knot]

yea it says that but also lists magic prot after getting regular prot

so im js curious what to replace it with

[mystic drift]

nothing

[modest knot]

so just put prot on my armor and thats it lol

[mystic drift]

yeah

[modest knot]

well im talking abt my pants and boots specifically

ok

[mystic drift]

ah

this build doesnt list extra enchants

ig take a look at #1416684332583485501 and copy the enchants

[modest knot]

@naive bough what should i replace the magic prot with you think?

also u said mutant skele armor got buffed should i use any other of them

[naive bough]

whatever, as i said i havent tested mutant skeleton pieces in this particular build

[modest knot]

does anyone know why im only doing 80 dps still?

ik i still have galeforce but ts is horrible

[mystic drift]

dont pull all the way

you can pull about 50% of the way more or less depending on your draw speed etc

and it will shoot a fully charged arrow

[modest knot]

yeah ive been doing that

i might have to scrap this build bc its still only doing 80dps and cant figure it out

[modest knot]

@naive bough last time ill ping u but do u see any problems w my build

im doing only 80dps with galeforce

[naive bough]

you should change your bow to crystal shortbow when you unlock the end

[modest knot]

ok. but i also tested my build with a orion and it still did around 90dps

[naive bough]

ur clearly doing something wrong

what is your talent tree

[mystic drift]

Can you send a short clip of you doing that

Also remember to break the target dummy between tests

Refer to this

https://streamable.com/zagy7h

And this

https://streamable.com/95rxvf