#Sanctus Bellator - The Anvil of God

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silk tartan
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build doesnt do much dmg without the hammers and corruption, so hammers r important, if both hammers and fate gets nerfed, not sure how would u build it

feral stag
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you didnt understand what i was saying

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sid

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the individual who for the most part is responsible for balancing to an extent

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already stated this build will not be heavily impacted by the hammer nerf

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its the builds that heavily scale the damage of the hamemrs

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which the paladin build doesnt do outside of corruption

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the hammers themselves scale off of physical attack which the paladin build doesnt invest into

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if they do nerf the corruption into the dirt

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im pretty sure sid will allow the paladin variants to shine in some other way

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that will come along with the 4.0 release if thats the route they choose to go with

slender relic
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Pls someone tell me if this build is still usable, I’m new and I just wanna play something a bit tanky instead of boom and dead. Important thing is I just spent a bunch of time reforging my prior armor set.

feral stag
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it is

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however

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keep in mine

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mind

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there are a lot of tanky builds

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and you cant tackle this modpack like a vanilla modpack

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make sure your enchants are in proper order

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and you have the defensive equipment to keep you alive

livid girder
arctic estuary
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its like using summons on non summoners in terraria

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not your main dmg... just added

livid girder
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no, because summons isnt a class

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but it is in terraria

arctic estuary
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i was using it as a comparision

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a non summoner build using summons, the summons dont do much, they could be built into, but using them as added/free dps is free added dps

livid girder
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yeah but nothing in this build is just freebie dmg

feral stag
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idk man

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pressing X for flying homing hammers sounds pretty free

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me whe ekavar is still a 2h weapon qwq

livid girder
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if you go that fate

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its only good for classes who dont need it or dont have one

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like this

feral stag
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What

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I'm confused where this convo transitioned into

livid girder
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the homing hammers arent "free damage" - the entire build just incorporates them by losing out of any of the healing fates

feral stag
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Yea

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But free hammers

livid girder
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but its not free hammers

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lmao

feral stag
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Noooo

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If I press button

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And no micro transaction occurs

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Free hammers

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Now is it potentially suboptimal in a sense

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Maybe

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But it's free

livid girder
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im killing you with a hammer minfuck

feral stag
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Ayyyy

stable mesa
scarlet vapor
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how does this build heal people?

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like ur teammates

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do they have to bee in the same party

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my friends doing this build and it doesnt really look like theyre healing anyone

livid girder
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they have to be in your team and opac party

scarlet vapor
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ohh

scarlet vapor
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Is aeternium hammer the best choice before getting the artifact?

reef totem
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is this still prior armor?

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idk if it is a dummy issue but I also tried it on Lvl 30 Obsidilith and it barely pricked it

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Is this what they call skissue tspmo

bleak wasp
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Do we know when the hammers are going to be nerfed? I dont want to fully commit to the build before it updates lol

feral stag
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!soon

woven nebulaBOT
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bleak wasp
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Fire

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tysm

worn vigil
bleak wasp
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Really? Even if the hammers are going to get a nerf it self? Ik the damage is on divine smites but I feel as if it loses a lot of the build's DPS and the increased melee attack per hammer

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But Idk Im a noob lol

worn vigil
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Read that convo

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Also above that message sid sent a build for divine smite

bleak wasp
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Ooo that's another cool option too thank you so much

reef totem
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since it relies on that

silk tartan
feral stag
limpid magnet
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Best book spells?

feral stag
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The ones for the build you're looking to use

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If you don't know the libram is fine for defensive utility

reef totem
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I was wondering what I was doing wrong but then I understand you basically just leave the shield skill alone

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Wonder how high it can get on Ekavar

proper ivy
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for armors, prior armors have two options for holy power
i mean, percent one and just plus holy power
which one is better??

azure sage
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Netherite prior if you wanna be full holy damage

magic sparrow
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idk if it’s just me but i feel like im just dying so easily

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idk what i’m doing wrong

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and honestly feels weak

crude gale
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do you have enchants on your armor?

magic sparrow
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yes

crude gale
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with prot and magic prot?

magic sparrow
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yeah

crude gale
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V?

magic sparrow
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yes it is

crude gale
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you're dying on mythics or normal bosses?

magic sparrow
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mythics but it’s fairly low like 1-4

crude gale
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hmm

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then they shouldnt deal that much

magic sparrow
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yeah i’m cycling my ability’s but i’m kinda jsut exploding

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the only thing i don’t really have from the build is my corruption is about 60 instead of 90

crude gale
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try to get it to 90

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your hammers are dealing a lot

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and corruption empowers them

magic sparrow
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does that help with me dying?

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maybe i just suck lol

crude gale
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with aqua shield

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this spell gives you resistance 4

magic sparrow
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i’ll try that thanks

crude gale
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it lasts 10 seconds but its still something

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trust me its a lot

reef totem
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pretty sure some attacks instakills regardless

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so probably that

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Something like Nether Gauntlet's beam for example would melt you like butter anyway

livid girder
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its survivability stems from that, not the armor

reef totem
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Oh right the shields

stable sierra
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@livid girder

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I used the whole build

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im very tanky but i deal legit no damage

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took me like 5 minutes to kill a mythic 3 boss

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unless i need corruption for this build to work

crude gale
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you need

stable sierra
crude gale
stable sierra
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is this chapter 3?

crude gale
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the rest of it

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banner of undying

stable sierra
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i have one of these

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but how do i get more and how do i infuse them into my armour

crude gale
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you need special template to do it

stable sierra
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whats it called? and how do i get more of those things

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to get corruption on my gear

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i somehow need to get 90

crude gale
woven nebulaBOT
stable sierra
zenith pasture
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35 when u infuse it

stable sierra
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ahh okay so i need 3 of those and one of the etyr one

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for resist

stable sierra
# crude gale yup

sorry for asking a lot i cant see in the corruption part of the wiki how to get more X'al, The Faceless Eye things

stable sierra
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is there a way i can stop the hammers killing everything

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they keep smiting villagers etc 😭

livid girder
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Why do you have hammers on near them lmao

hybrid niche
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do you still use a hammer after you get the artifact one or is that only for early

hybrid niche
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i know just wasnt sure if i needed an extra hammer for any reason

arctic estuary
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Nah, only off hands are the unique weps for specific actives me think

livid girder
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Little issue with ruby stuff will be fixed soon™

worn vigil
hybrid niche
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does 200dps on a dummy sound about right for full build just wanted to make sure im not missing anything big

livid girder
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no you are missing something

worn vigil
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Are u missing strength or something

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Lol

livid girder
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or fingers because smite deals like 300 alone

hybrid niche
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wait really something is OFF then wtf

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thats using banner hammers and smite

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lemme go look

worn vigil
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U should be getting at least 500 dps

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Constant

hybrid niche
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a single smite without anything else hit dummy for 89 ive looked over the guide like 5 times can not for the life of me figure out what is missing

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does this look right also sitting at 23.4 holy power

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90 corruption

worn vigil
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Send your talent tree

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And your artifact tree

hybrid niche
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item level says 660 if that means anything as well

worn vigil
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Bruh

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Just get full prot 5, get a power glove, pain cycle over thundering if u want more dmg

hybrid niche
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okok gonna do more testing, how much dmg do you see from a single righteous hammer hitting btw?

worn vigil
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Idk cause I haven't extensively tested this build

hybrid niche
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okok no worries thanks for the input

livid girder
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I cannot be more specific

hybrid niche
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no worries im obviously missing something just need to figure out how

glossy pond
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unborn ferry
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why would you use corruption in this build? from what i understand youdeal 15% less damage with every source except corruption

worn vigil
unborn ferry
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what about the other spells?

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from the spell book i mean

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or is it just the right click from the hammer?

worn vigil
unborn ferry
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oh the 2 hammers that circle you?

worn vigil
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yea

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it goes up to like 10 hammers

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with max corruption

unborn ferry
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oh crazy

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alright thanks

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is there a way to get around hitting your mates with this spell xD

worn vigil
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add them to your party xd

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or ally them and change the rules for allies

unborn ferry
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how?

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/team didnt work

worn vigil
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read your questbook, getting started tab

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shows u how to create a team

unborn ferry
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fs thanks

fleet mauve
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I went through a Nether City and picked up a few pieces of netherite prior armor - am I correct in that this is cloth armor and not actual defense armor?

arctic quail
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Would dual wielding maces on this build be better then a great hammer/Claymore?

worn vigil
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Ur ability scales with physical damage too

arctic quail
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Good point.

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Claymore it is.

worn vigil
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But still not "defensive" or "tank" armor

fleet mauve
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I think I have a "rare" rarity atm, and I don't think it's even as defensive as Iron armor. My question is - I see the thread talking about being able to take a few hits; is armor/armor toughness so unnecessary?

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I'd think you'd want at least diamond level defense before enchantments.

worn vigil
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Youre able to tank a few hits because u have increased hp, prot 5, and a bit of armor efficiency i think? At max

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But you absolutely can get even more tank by using netherite crusader armor

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Paladin libram also has a nice spell where u can block all damage from 3 hits

fleet mauve
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something weird. I am playing on 3.9.2, and yeah, I did just get the libram.

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Actually, speaking of that, I wonder about the Crucifix artifact extending immunity after a hit synergizing with the shield ability. Do you think it works that way to take you between the 8 second CD?

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Or does the shield ability make you just not take a hit, so the artifact never activates?

worn vigil
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U get 3 floaty shields around u and each time u get hit one disappears

fleet mauve
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Ah, so the cross necklace wouldn't work until after.

worn vigil
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Yea

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I just dont feel like that necklace is that useful

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Because most bosses just deal insane damage in 1 shot

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They dont do constant hits

livid girder
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Maybe for nulls endermen

worn vigil
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Scar crows 99999 spawns

livid girder
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Maybe magus gu mas

worn vigil
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Sugma

fleet mauve
# livid girder Dot effects are rare on bosses

Not the DoT. The cross necklace makes you immune to damage for 1.5 seconds after taking a hit. I wondered if it the shield spell from Paladin Libram would count as a "hit" and trigger the cross, so you basically are guaranteed 4.5 seconds of the 8 second cool down to be immune from damage, making it so only 3.5 seconds of CD are you vulnerable.

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It would be a cool synergy if it works. But from what it sounds like, it probably doesn't.

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But otherwise - for this build, do all great hammers have Divine Smite? I found a ruby great hammer (which I'm pretty sure is the one needed for the artifact) but it doesn't seem to come with Divine Smite. Is it because I'm running 3.9.2?

worn vigil
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3.9.4

livid girder
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a ton of weapons, claymores, maces, flails and hammers do

livid girder
fleet mauve
worn vigil
fleet mauve
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No worries. My small soho server in the house is still a ways from doing much for progression as we're all just doing normal minecrafty things like overhauling the village we're in.

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We're a long ways from artifact-making and mid to endgame bosses.

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I'll settle myself for a mace Smite in the meantime

cobalt widget
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might try this build next

cobalt widget
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this build is actually fun if you run circling the enemy

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just need to becareful for one shot hit from enemy

livid girder
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Thats what you have paladins libram for

cobalt widget
drowsy yacht
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how is the rotation also dps ?

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with new holy buff update

livid girder
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I dont post dps ever

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Rotation is hammer

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Ita smite + hammer + whatever utility you need in that moment

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The build is broad so you can do whatever you want

drowsy yacht
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So we are keeping apophis just for skill tree passives ? Sorry never tried hammer or related build so thats why im asking

worn vigil
drowsy yacht
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so basicly use smith with hammer then back to apophis for attacks till smith reload ?

worn vigil
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You cast divine smite with apophis

strange tusk
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Use apophis as the hammer

livid girder
drowsy yacht
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Thanks

worn vigil
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Why in this channel XD

zenith pasture
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Me when i make a holy build and my walls and fences are not holy enough

livid girder
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Noone is gonna answer this here bud

halcyon latch
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can't find undying soul in EMI was it removed/renamed or sth?

woven nebulaBOT
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Undying soul was renamed to Banner of Undying, same item, same effects. If you find it in a build or a youtube guide, just know that these two are the same

halcyon latch
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sorry for the ping

livid girder
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all good

spring rivet
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Are there any actually decent artifacts for holy that aren't the hammer?

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Like I've been curious about messing around with a shield or something in addition, but it seems like there's nothing.

zenith pasture
spring rivet
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Ashe's of the star doesn't work with holy at all right?

wet canopy
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hello, i decyded to go for mending instead of spell infinity because i dont mind crafting runes, i have like 2 more enchants slots left what should i get ?

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i dont think um unbreaking is that important but if it is crucial please tell, i was thinking projectile/blast prot, or some thorns but that is probibaly useless, if u guys know any cool enchants left guide me

worn vigil
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U can go for cowardice, acrobat, swift sneak, deflect, blast prot

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Multi roll

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Longfooted, swiftfooted

wet canopy
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Bet I'll check them later, thyy for always being here to help

worn vigil
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Np np

rocky cape
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wait can i just use the apophis for my hammer weapon?

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or is there a better one?

rocky cape
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:)

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(srry for ping)

crude gale
rocky cape
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yeah i didnt know if there was some othewr one that had some weird shit that made it good lol

strange tusk
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It’s all good lmaooo

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Happy paladin-ing!

rocky cape
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tyty

urban abyss
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For me

livid girder
urban abyss
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Does this build have any ranged attacks?

livid girder
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holy staff + priest book

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if you really need it

silent spear
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What’s the tank hammer talent? Soz I’m a little new

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Also does this work the way I think it works? Would be cool if you can cast both Warrior and Paladin spells in the same book 👀

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Also what % of corruption do you recommend

stable mesa
# silent spear What’s the tank hammer talent? Soz I’m a little new

Divine Hammer is a talent at the bottom of the skill tree, locked behind the Tank talent. Its alternative is a Bone Armor talent. It makes hammers orbit you, and once you get enough Corruption more will be summoned to seek out enemies around you. Last I can recall, it's been nerfed since I last used it so idk how effective it still is, but it's probably still a decent talent to take since it's still a decent dps buff.

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If you run Divine Hammer, you want high corruption, since more corruption means more hammers and more damage, assuming it still functions the same since I last used it.

silent spear
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Aha I see! Thanks so much!

silent spear
stable mesa
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Can't remember, sorry.

silent spear
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It’s alright! Thanks so much for the help still! 🔥

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Just that I wanna get to 90 corruption but there’s a debuff that -dmg output on all sources? So I’m not sure if it’s worth or not

worn vigil
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Don't worry u can get max corruption no issue

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Just remember to make an extra set that u can use as utility/exploring

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Jade set or jet suit can be good if u go into ad astra

urban abyss
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Bro this build is so cool I love hammers

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Wait so does apophis have smite on it naturally? Can I just enchant it with sharpness

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Sorry I’m really new and was just reading some messages from this discord

urban abyss
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Ohh ok so that’s separate from enchantments?

azure sage
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Yes

urban abyss
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Ok thanks. It also feels so weird to have sharpness on a hammer, there should be a whole other enchantment for hammers in that way lol

azure sage
urban abyss
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ohhhhhh ok that makes sense. sounds like a lot of work for pretty much no reason

livid girder
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dont say dense

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like how do you make a hammer enchant that sounds like - sharpness + power etc

worn vigil
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Heaviness, bluntness

zenith pasture
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Hammingbird

zenith pasture
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What if instead of a hammer build this was a humming build and instead of being a flameborn, you were a hummingbird and you would hum at your enemies continuously until they can't take it anymore

azure sage
livid girder
azure sage
worn jungle
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Tinkaton might be my favorite gen 9 mon

urban abyss
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Or bludgeon

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That sounds cool 😎

urban abyss
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which mythic qualities should i reforge for on the hammer and the armor?

azure sage
urban abyss
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yeah but mythic doesnt always give the same buffs

azure sage
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!pins of #player-gear-discussion has the link to reforging spreadsheet

woven nebulaBOT
naive narwhal
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@livid girder im new to the modpack, what progression should i do to get this build

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for now im lvl 11

worn vigil
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Use either crusader or prior armor depending if u wanna be a little tankier/deal more damage

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Get a weapon with holy power that casts divine smite

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Hammers, maces, claymores, or simply swords uniques like "the watcher" are good

clear vale
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So if i wanna be more tanky than i just need to replace prior armor for crusader? what about late game its still good then?

worn vigil
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Yes just upgrade to netherite crusader

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U trade off damage for tankiness

naive narwhal
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like the first one

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i think i can use that too

worn vigil
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Yea but it has very low holy power

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Like 2 i think?

naive narwhal
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holy book is needed right?

stable mesa
naive narwhal
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i only see the holy book

stable mesa
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It's an upgrade to the holy book via Smithing table

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Holy book, warrior book, and a holy rune

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Sorry, healing rune

livid girder
naive narwhal
livid girder
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yes

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one of the three i think

naive narwhal
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thank you man

clear vale
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do u have any tip at the start for this build cuz when i go in the nether im one shoted by piglin with diax eq and hammer

livid girder
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dont use diamond armor

urban abyss
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Did you build this with hard mode or easy mode in mind?

azure sage
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every build is built with hard mode in mind

iron crown
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what are the best enchants for armor, i only got 6 enchant slots and idk what to put in

worn vigil
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Multi roll on helm
Cowardice on chest
Swift sneak on legs
Longfooted on feet

iron crown
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is magic prot good? i cant really thing of anything that uses magic

worn vigil
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A few bosses deal magic damage

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U also get reduced effect duration on debuffs

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And things like pain cycle deal negligible damage

livid girder
worn vigil
iron crown
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oh, should i have soulbound on, i tend to get 1 shotted alot even though i dont think my armor is that bad

livid girder
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thats horrible armor

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all of that sucks

iron crown
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😭

livid girder
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and ofc you get 1 shotted with reckless

iron crown
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i got 160 health and when i had 360 nothing really changed bcz i could health the massive healthbar

livid girder
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yeah but you have 0 dmg reduction on your armor enchants

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  • you have half hp + a single piece with prot on HALLOWHEART is horrible
iron crown
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so if i follow the thing and full gear up i should survive alot more

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no soulbound?

livid girder
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with the paladins libram you will have a ton of invincibility

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  • sustain
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and damage

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please never ever use hallowheart or arkenplate

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both of them suck dick

iron crown
livid girder
iron crown
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sorry to bother u again but ig the server owner forgot to make prior netherite gear have 6 enchants so i have 8 slots

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what should i put in

iron crown
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oh, my teammate said they were limited to 6 so i thought the server owner did that

livid girder
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all netherite/tier 3 armor - like netherite prior takes 8 enchants

iron crown
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so what 8 should i get the guide only says 5

worn vigil
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The rest are up to you

iron crown
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alr

lusty lagoon
worn vigil
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nothing

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what matters for buffs is corruption

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affected only matters for debuffs

lusty lagoon
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whats the points of putting 3 necklace and reduce it to 90 with etyr instead going to 100 with necklace?

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and thanks for your answer by the way

worn vigil
lusty lagoon
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make sense possible to remove a corruption we put on an armor or to upgrade?

worn vigil
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nope, corruption/corr resistance infusion is final

lusty lagoon
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nothing happens if you're at 95?

worn vigil
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nope

vale spade
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Is there any specific config my enchantment table should have

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Where should my arcana, quanta, and the other one should be at?

worn vigil
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a maxed setup and a max eterna low arcana setup

vale spade
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so max eterna and max quanta?

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no quanta quanta bad

worn vigil
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rectification makes quanta good

north abyss
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any idea what enchants to put on?

worn vigil
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leeching, guarding strike, rushdown, freezing, rampaging

north abyss
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thanks!

naive narwhal
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w

night stratus
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would i put everything the same on the caelestis as i would the hammer?

livid girder
sinful ermine
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is this build good for a singleplayer world?

livid girder
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yes

sinful ermine
sinful ermine
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do i still use apophis if im playing solo

worn vigil
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yes

sinful ermine
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okay okay

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what are all the enchants i need i got the 3 written down above but what else should i get

livid girder
sinful ermine
sinful ermine
livid girder
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Should all be in the build

sinful ermine
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i have all the ones written above but like i still have plenty of slots open

sinful ermine
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so the skill tree shown in the photo is the 1 for solo

sinful ermine
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what can i do for the lack of range on this build

worn vigil
vale spade
muted wolf
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Loving the hammer, but at a cross roads on what my final enchant should be

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Not sure If I should go through with the spell haste, it seems the spells cast very quickly without it, and im debating using unbreaking III to counteract the need for me repair this with netherrite.

zenith pasture
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thats what i would go for personally

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i would recommend using a hardening catalyst on it as early as possible because the hardening effect stays on when u craft apophis

muted wolf
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oh no way, thats great to know

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thanks

ionic trench
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so ive read some of the earlier posts, but figured id ask to make double sure. this build shoulndt suffer to heavily if i use a 1 handed divine smite (if that even exists) instead of apophis, right?

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honestly i wish i could find a skill breakdown for this so i could then instead of copying it see what makes it tick and use that knowledge to understand how to build a different one

livid girder
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apophis is BIS but you can use maces and a shield aswell

ionic trench
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apologies, but what does BIS stand for?

livid girder
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best in slot

ionic trench
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build intended something?

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ohhh gotcha

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thank you

livid girder
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you can still use other weapons, there is quite a lot of them that have smite

ionic trench
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is there a more breakdown regarding the skills anywhere in here if you know?

livid girder
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esp when you dont have apophis

livid girder
ionic trench
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ahaahah, im autistic (actually), i enjoy reading what makes something ticks and learning why. so i would say all of them outside of the general stat/attrivute boosts, but i recognise that would take alot of time and wouldnt trouble anyone to go out of their way to make that

livid girder
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the skills are explained in their tooltip mostly

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i highly recommend making a creative world and just trying the build out

ionic trench
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thats fair, I'll likely just go into a world and read them all in that case

ionic trench
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thank you for the conversation and the input! it is highly appreciated

livid girder
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and then just fuck around with it, i do not like posting dps or combos because they are giga sweaty imo unless its crucial to the build, but this build is just smiting with a hammer and using your other abilities to get close enough to get that off, whilst the hammers do their job too

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plenty of weapons that have smite, like i said, even one handed ones, i think searching for "smite" should give you all

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and if not you can see most by searching for "holy" since all of them have holy spell power

ionic trench
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i like the way you think, yeah outside of a field where the intended point is competively defeating the bosses as efficiently as possible, any build is really viable,

fluid nexus
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how do i put spell infinity on my apophis?

azure sage
white venture
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hey i'm currious about one thing, the final armor for this build is the sapphire one, and the final weapon is apophis?

livid girder
white venture
livid girder
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neither

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please check the initial post

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its pinned

white venture
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i'm blind for not seeing that, sorry

lone glen
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Hi y'all! Recently joined a server and going to try this build out, but wanted to know what i should aim for in early-game and mid-game armor?

radiant forge
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helmet

zenith pasture
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chestplate

worn vigil
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leggings

livid girder
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boots

livid lark
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so when i started playing this modpack for the first time i was dreaming of playing a paladin in a server with my friends
i checked the wiki and they didnt have a distinct paladin build so i went here, and i found this (which im probably going to try and run)
theres like 8 of us and im the only tank, and right now at lvl 12 im rocking a diamond hammer and absolute dumpster fire for armour (which means i get 2 tapped by most mobs in the nether)
is there any early game weapon and/or armour recommendations because right now my holy power isnt very high and i cant rely on smiting my enemies to death

livid girder
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Get prot as soon as possible

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Its a very common enchant so you can hit it with hellshelves or seashelves

livid lark
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gotcha

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and another question
in the case my healer isnt online, is flash heal something i should even consider using within the paladins libram?

livid girder
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if you wanna heal use sunfire and make sure to use /team with your friends

white venture
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Hey how much HP does this build usually gets? i'm with 380 and going to fight Magus, just want to know if that is a good amount for now

worn vigil
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yeah

livid girder
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hp doesnt matter much with this

worn vigil
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max build gets like 400 something i think

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but doesnt matter cause the invincibility spell

livid girder
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and the heals

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and the dmg output

white venture
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i got a little worried cause Null kind hurt a lot

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thanks for the help guys

livid lark
# livid girder if you wanna heal use sunfire and make sure to use /team with your friends

cool!

i was also wondering whether or not full crusader would also be viable early on
of course it would have some massive damage differences right now but we already have someone trying to run prior and ghast tears are at an all time low right now due to... our incapability of securing ghast kills
and would the wax weapons be any good if im just trying to not die?

worn vigil
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U can also get ghast tears from an alchemist villager (alchemist table)

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Waxweaver could have some use because of its totem effect, but it's really not necessary at all in this build

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You're trying to build holy power (which waxweaver has none of) and you can cast paladin libram's 3rd spell i think? Which makes u invincible for 3 hits

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I think you're better off stacking holy power/self healing nodes and using a charm of bursting vitality as it's gonna get fixed in the next update

worn vigil
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its supposed to give +20% healing per level

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it will be fixed meaning it will work as intended

livid lark
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after getting my hammers what nodes should i try and get?

worn vigil
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Also get omnivamp

livid lark
worn vigil
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It does yeah

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U could go half and half

livid lark
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gonna make them unbreakable in the future anyway so

worn vigil
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yeah

livid lark
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okay, currently level 40 and post-jean, getting the eyes took forever
compared to the people who are on the entire extreme, I don’t do too well in terms of dps (curse you fire mage for one tapping everything) and my friends has better tanks, and my support capacity could be better (but our healer recently rage quit so there’s that, might come back might not)

I do seem to excel solo though (considering that’s the nature of this build) and I was wondering what modifications I could make for a better leaning extreme, assuming it’s not a bad idea to try and lean towards more of a specialist paladin
I’m not sure how I could lean into dps without corruption, and I’m still trying to figure out how much corruption I should have whilst having enough negation to not just die
I’m not sure whether I should just go full crusader for tank, because it kinda kills my holy power if I don’t go half and half
And I’m not sure whether full prior is the play either since my friends do expect me to uh, not die

Thoughts?

worn vigil
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Still using paladin libram for its invincibility spell + a simoly sword like caelestis

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Also a pro tip, make a basic wine brewery and make apple wine, let it ferment to get resistance 3 for 2 mins

livid lark
livid lark
livid lark
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im gonna go experiment

livid lark
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gonna do a test environment:

  • ruby greathammer (since its a core ingredient to get apophis anyway), enchantless and reforgeless since it is a creative mode test and im only testing smite damage
    - sunfire for free strength (unsure if this works on self) it does not work on self

  • maxed paladins libram (obv)

  • half netherite crusader (chest, leggings), half prior, no trim (due to not knowing what any of them do)

  • 2 anetts embrace

  • cross necklace over adrias pendant (it's really strong especially when you have multiple tanks who can cycle)

i do about 31 damage per smite consistently whilst my melee jumping crit does 32, holy power is currently 16.48 with 21 physical damage
on undead enemies i do about 57 damage per smite which is much better but pales in comparison to some of my other tank friends/potential damage with caelestis, but thats less consistant

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full prior actually decreased the amount of total holy power due to lack of base holy power with ruby greathammer, so im gonna keep experimenting for that sweet spot

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said sweet spot seems to be 3 part prior 1 part crusader peaking at 16.52 whilst holding ruby greathammer, but i'll be sticking with 2 part each for the sake of actually not dying

livid lark
worn vigil
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Amp spell, spell volatility, energize, spell power on weapon

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With a truly max build, youre looking at ~300 damage divine smites and like 800 damage crits

livid lark
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augh but i can only get level 60 enchants right now cause im too lazy to get hellshelves
and getting rid of curse of vanishing gets so annoying...

livid lark
worn vigil
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U can get every enchant that way really

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For curse of vanishing just use prismatic cobweb

worn vigil
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But you should be getting less dps than your fire mage friend, especially if he's a spellblade user

livid lark
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im more or less trying to match my other tank friends, trying to do around 1.5x their damage output

livid lark
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might need to go stockpile prismatic cobwebs

worn vigil
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Creating a haunting setup with create takes just a few minutes

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Provided u have iron, wood and andesite

worn vigil
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Then do focus on enchants

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I imagine ur high level?

livid lark
livid lark
# worn vigil I imagine ur high level?

level 40, we fought ender dragon whilst our higher level players were double the recommended and everyone else was around 2-6 levels higher than recommended lol

worn vigil
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Take a look at that tree

livid lark
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that is

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an interesting tree

worn vigil
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I would recommend picking an omnivamp node as well

worn vigil
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That will be your main source of damage

livid lark
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i might end up doing something like this

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im

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not sure

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because if im focusing purely divine smite right

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im relying on the fact that im gonna be up against undeads at our current level without many enchants

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might stick with hammers and reset

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later on

worn vigil
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Problem with hammers early game is that they dont deal enough damage i feel like

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They really benefit from corruption

worn vigil
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I feel like the no enchants thing is kinda excusable at lvl 15 max

livid lark
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k, guess im making a to-do list

worn vigil
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But bc you're in a big group maybe ur not affected that much

livid lark
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  • get a shit ton of experience somehow (friend has experience kit, might ask to borrow)
  • upgrade from glowing hellshelves to deepshelves incrementally
  • generate power (solar panels?)
  • make an me system so two dummies quit complaining
  • kill the wither like 20 times to smelt down netherite items to collect netherite for reforging and whatnot
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i understand that im new but i really do feel like killing the wither 20 times is extremely inefficient

worn vigil
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U can reforge the non netherite items ☝🏻

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It keeps the reforge when upgrading through the smithing table

livid lark
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my ruby great-hammer on the other hand is already epic, so it should be enough for now

worn vigil
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Lowkey yeah

livid lark
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yeah but i'll keep stress-testing this build in multiplayer and see how it holds up

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but im still really satisfied about its performance in solo exploration expeditions

livid lark
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i wonder what other trinkets i should use to fill in the other slots on this build

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because theres stuff like quiver slot that i could probably toss something into for like 1 armour point

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surely

livid lark
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damn

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what about other slots?

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i know thigh highs exist for fall damage reduction for some

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reason that i dont understand

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cape is taken by icarus wings, its basically soulbound to me alongside my thunder staff for infinite sustained flight

zenith pasture
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Give me a sec

livid lark
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god i cant remember all the trinket slots off the top of my head

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  • charm
  • head
  • back
  • cape
  • necklace
  • 2 ring
  • shoes
  • quiver
  • thighs
  • arms?
zenith pasture
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  • Charms (so diff potion effects)
  • The spellbook
  • Hat is usually drinking hats or fluge tiara is cool
  • necklace and ring are the class ones
  • back is Banner of Undying, idr if theres anything else for back honestly
  • cape: wings
  • two hands: either power glove (it doesnt stack) or amethyst/turtle bracer (they stack)
  • belt: ender pouch, cloud in a bottle, crystal heart, antidote
  • quiver: quiver
  • thighs
  • Shoes: Running Shoes or Usain Bolt Socks
  • key: nothing
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What am i missing

livid lark
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for multiplayer

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its actually insane

zenith pasture
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Ike pvp?

livid lark
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no, cooperative

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because im in a server rn with like

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8 of us (big party but theres like 5 of us on at a time usually)

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3 of us are tanks and i am by far one of the most tanky ones

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simply due to how much damage i can avoid taking with increased iframes

livid lark
zenith pasture
livid lark
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you have your extreme dps spammers who nuke everything
and you have your death knight wanna bes who just dont die due to resistances
meanwhile im just kinda playing 3 roles at once, support tank and dps

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support since sunfire banner is insane

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especially for friendly tanks and providing regeneration

turbid canopy
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is there a early to mid game version guide of this ion wanna scroll that much

astral latch
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lol

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just get prior set

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netherite prior

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get something that uses divine smite

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and get paladins libram

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this is beginner ig

livid lark
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okay so update
prominence once you get to voids invasion chapter 2-3 its just one shot heaven when youre playing with 8 people

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i cant do jack shit since i still dont have reforged prior or crusader armour yet 😭

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im still using rare/epic armour, gotta work on getting all my pieces to legendary or mythic

livid lark
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okay so im finally starting to do decent damage

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but now most bosses are one-twotapping me
is this build really invincibility heavy

lone glen
livid lark
worn vigil
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Enchant broo

azure sage
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the spell infinity enchant fr

livid lark
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so i can spam enchant books and shove it in

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since im assuming thats the best way to do it...

zenith terrace
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im level 21 what should i have for armor and weapons right now and what should my enchanting set up look like and what should i do for an xp farm?

lone glen
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You should be able to get the full prior set with ghast tears from the alchemist villager, and a diamond hammer(or anything with divine smite)

livid girder
zenith terrace
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Is there a huge difference between claymore, hammer, and mace? I see the 3 less damage for .2 more haste from claymore to hammer, and the mace obviously being one handed and dropping to 12 physical damage with .25 less range but .2 more haste than the claymore

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I have full prior now, I just need to make a tunnel bore to mine lots of netherite and diamonds to get all the upgrades. And I need more levels to infuse more shelves to get more enchanting to infuse for shelves to do more enchanting to infuse more shelves

livid girder
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keep in mind that apophis is built from a hammer

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feel free to try stuff out

ionic trench
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so, for multiplayer, it seems to be best to diverge heavily from the build in order to not relie so hevaily on corruption, right?

worn vigil
livid girder
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when it comes to single and multiplayer

oblique river
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Hi im new and I want to be paladin in the mod but I just made the holy book and I dont know how im supposed to Build the paladin spellbook

livid girder
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its not a crafting table recipe

livid lark
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question
should i build entirely into immunity frames and invincibility when doing the tank half of this build?

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so far ive gotten to the point where my damage is finally like
decent

livid girder
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how much dmg are you hitting

livid lark
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i think

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idk i cant count

livid girder
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oh thats pretty good

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lol

livid lark
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yeah

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my problem is

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the range on my smite is not that great

livid girder
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thats normal

livid lark
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therefore, i have to immediately swap to wax weaver to avoid instant death

livid girder
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then go for paladins libram, for the i-frames

livid lark
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yeah i do

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i can get 2-3 smites off before i say "ok too much risk"

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and even then i might get hit with a stray lol

livid girder
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the oaths are great and all but ultimately paladins is great for bosses and such

livid lark
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yeah cause what im doing is

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im using paladins libram for the 3 hits of iframes over 8 seconds with cross necklace to further boost iframe duration

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therefore im typically entirely immune for about 6 seconds

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assuming im in their face and they do contact damage

livid girder
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already sounds good

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then you need to expand more into buffs

livid lark
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resistance...?

livid girder
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strength, resistance, regen

livid lark
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augh i hate potions

livid girder
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no potions

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foods!

livid lark
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oh right

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nourishment exist

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my question is, should i run
apophis, both wax weapons, caelestis, and sunfire?

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because i can start with caelestis immortality
swap to apophis
4 seconds in pop immunity from paladins libram
then swap to wax for insurance

livid girder
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you just need more buffs, resistance does a lot and is still like vanilla

astral latch
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what does wax weapons do

livid girder
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tbh you should start out with the paladins invincibility, so that goes on cd first, go for a smite, use the standart

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then cast sunfire

livid lark
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or do you mean the smite

livid lark
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Objectively better for tank builds

livid girder
astral latch
livid lark
livid girder
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did you spec into corruption?

livid lark
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Only reason why I don’t is because they keep hitting allies

livid lark
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Or

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Not full

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Fully

livid girder
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thats the biggest dmg increase youre gonna have

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once youre on max corruption with etyr infusion on top

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hammers scale with strength too iirc

livid lark
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oh?

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this may get interesting real soon

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the problem is I just hate corruption but

astral latch
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its kinda hard to get xal necklace thing

livid lark
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I’ll see what I can do

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honestly I can probably alter my enchants too
I forgot I need cowardice

livid girder
astral latch
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Lol

livid girder
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because i learned it

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why would you do that?

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with what reasoning do you wanna call someone a jew

astral latch
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LOL

livid girder
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you know im gonna ban you for hate speech right

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not like you will be able to

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.ban @edgy nimbus ?r racism/hatespeech

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livid girder
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.ban @dawn trellis ?r hate speech, gtfo with that chatgpt apology, ban evading

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livid girder
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no peace for you

astral latch
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whats happening bro damn

livid girder
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then comes back with a chatgpt apology

astral latch
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LMAOO

livid girder
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i should have screenshot it but something something im sorry something something share same god and i just want peace

astral latch
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ppl doing everything with ai nowadays thas absurd

livid girder
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honestly didnt even bother to read it

empty frost
zenith pasture
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They asked whats the word for jew in latin

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Or smth like that i forgot

livid girder
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handled

worn vigil
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decent, its an all rounder build

livid girder
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i really dont care

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.ban @dawn trellis ?r alt hopping once more

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ashen nexus
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Is this build still good in current version? I'm trying to build it not sure if im feeling weak, not tanking much and on some bosses that goes far i cant hit smite. Is netherite prior the best armor for this?

astral latch
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i believe this build makes everything easy

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also netherite prior is pretty good because you have invincibilty spells

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so if you time everything right you will be able to defeat all bosses with ease

worn vigil
ornate sky
# ashen nexus Is this build still good in current version? I'm trying to build it not sure if ...

Can also do a mix like this:

Prior Helm
Crusader Chest
Crusader Leggings
Prior Boots

On the statsheet, it have 0.2 less holy power than full prior and also more armor. Personally, I go for the extra armor efficiency as I'm already killing stuff super fast at XXX mythics and don't feel that the extra spell haste from 2 more pieces of prior impacts that much, while I have around 8.5 extra points of armor with this set.

The mixed up = 30.02 Armor & 23 Holy Power, Full Prior = 21.57 Armor & 23.2 Holy

Full Netherite Crusader = 20.4 Holy Power & 33.77 Armor. Lacks the 10~20% Spell Haste from Prior pieces

Prior
Crusader
Prior
Prior

= 23.4 Holy Power, 26.26 Armor and more spell haste.

Prior
Crusader
Crusader
Crusader

= 31.89 Armor, 22 Holy Power.

Take the numbers less as a fact and more of how much of a difference there is between each option. Due to rings & necklace also giving spell haste, I personally feel that the half-half mix ends up on a sweet spot for me.

CDs based on spellbook:

Full Prior Divine Smite = 6.3 CD
Mix Divine Smite = 6.8 CD

Full Prior Flash Heal = 3.8 CD
Mix Flash Heal = 4.1 CD

Full Prior Divine Protection = 19 CD
Mix Divine Protection = 20.3 CD

Full Prior Judgement = 9.5 CD
Mix Judgement = 10.1 CD

Full Prior Battle Banner = 28.5 CD
Mix Battle Banner = 30.4 CD

livid girder
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have you considered enchants

ornate sky
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yes, its fully enchanted, with energize V. Though no idea how that is functionally coded into it, if its a % thing or if its a flat added thing

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Amplify Spell, Spell Volatility, Energize, Prot, Magic Prot on all pieces

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Full prior will obviously do a slight bit more dmg.
So in regards to what to use, I'd say its about what folks are most comfortable with

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and if numbers I see on dummy & in spellbook aren't lying, as I haven't tested out full prior against bosses yet, then in terms of dmg, the difference is minimal between mixed(half-half) & full prior. The biggest difference would be the CDs & Armor.

worn vigil
ornate sky
worn vigil
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Can't have perma spellstrike up

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The cd starts when the effect ends, not when you cast the spell

ornate sky
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guess divine protection is different

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still a wonderful buff to have & to be able to setup with. Does it affect the dmg of Righteous Hammer ?

worn vigil
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Not at all

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Righteous hammers only scales with corruption and physical damage

ornate sky
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Never know what might & might not interact.

I'm at 50 corruption & 20 corruption resistance, how much corruption do y'all usually play with?

worn vigil
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For bosses, 10 resistance and 100 corruption

ornate sky
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so 3 eyes & 1 etyr ?

worn vigil
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Yeah

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I then have another backup set i can use for general use

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Like jade armor

worn vigil
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There's a bug that doesn't let u reforge after infusing

ornate sky
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Oh thanks for that tip.

I'll likely just make a second set of what I already got going.
I am considering what armor would make the best as an exploration set, just so I can put more combat-related enchants on combat armor & keep things like respiration & aqua affinity off it.

Do you know which prots, other than Magic Prot & Prot, are good? I see some enemies using fire and am wondering if any of the more ranged attacks count as projectile, afterall if you solely focus on combat for one set, you can have like 1-2 more prot enchants on a full set that have access to 8 enchants

worn vigil
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You only need full prot 5

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Don't even need magic prot or anything else

ornate sky
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So really just full prot 5(50% DR) that is useful?

worn vigil
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Nope, full prot 5 is 80% DR

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Thing is, it works the same as in vanilla mc

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With EPFs

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You can read more in the mc wiki

ornate sky
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Really? Guess its more than what I remember. Remember it being 2.5% DR per prot level. Oh well, won't say no to more DR stacking, lol

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Since Zenith/Apoth reworks how Prot works

worn vigil
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Doesn't

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Xddddddd

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The logic is not implemented in zenith

ornate sky
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lmfao

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Big benefit

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Prot stonks

worn vigil
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Will change soon tm

ornate sky
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With 4.0 & stuff ?

worn vigil
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Nah

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When I get to coding

ornate sky
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Prot gonna get nerfed?

worn vigil
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I kinda wanna tinker around yk

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Nothing is confirmed at all im just having some ideas randomly pop up

ornate sky