Yet another 5020 toolhead (Clogged hole/AMOGUSBURNER)

[green berry]

and you can "compare" how good your ducts/fans are

smth similar is used to measure drone thrust

again, per PID, the cooling should be minima

[clever charm]

Hmmmm I get a puny 0.76g🤣

[green berry]

then smth is wrong

should get at least 10g

maybe 20

[clever charm]

What... That's a shitton

With the stock fan I got 4g more or less

[green berry]

then it is a duct problem ig

but again 1 is lower than 4

[clever charm]

No shit sherlock

[clever charm]

Wouldn't the glass of water not mainly measure down force?

Which is not what I'm looking for

[green berry]

yes but also absorbs sideway airflow

otherwise you can just put scale under fans

but you miss like 70% of the airflow

🤣

[clever charm]

Yeah I basically get the same result doing that

[green berry]

water helps averaging out airflow

that's all

otherwise you can just do a cardboard box

under the nozzle

and pray

[clever charm]

I think I'm just gonna do a benchy and see

Just gotta redo my config since cosmos update wiped it

I fucking hate it

[green berry]

if my meth is not wrong

5cfm~5g

not taking into account a lot of things

but should be a good ballpark

[clever charm]

ahm

[green berry]

or 8.5 m/h

[green berry]

what

rotation distnace?

it is called poorman skew calibration

it is working tho

I measured it myself

cause you have no skew calibration on v9

[clever charm]

ok now please tell my why there isn't a skew correction section

oh

why are we on v9?

[green berry]

cause that's what elegoo os

was on

angrykeys

[clever charm]

you are shitting me

[tropic gazelle]

How do you get the PWM signal into the graphics ?

[clever charm]

click on power

[green berry]

no?

[clever charm]

please tell me that there is a better reason

[green berry]

elegoo os was a transpiled c++ version of klipper v9

wdym

[clever charm]

aren't we on klipper v13 now?

[high sun]

atom hasn't had enough alcohol to finish the updated .cfg's

[green berry]

the config is from elegoo os

🗣️

no one fixed it

[clever charm]

ohhhhhhhhhhh i thought it was on purpose... and never noticed it

[high sun]

@tropic gazelle

[clever charm]

poop

[high sun]

indeed

[tropic gazelle]

or just klick here 😄

[high sun]

broke my external one earlier when I was taking the fans out, and I want to seal the chamber better

[tropic gazelle]

😄

[clever charm]

ok that's at least the same ballparc even tho there are a lot of ignored variables

at least i'm not completely off

btw @tropic gazelle if you use the tz's thermistor make sure to change it in the config

[tropic gazelle]

did it 😉

😄

[clever charm]

Off to another test

[high sun]

You know, I forgot we could do that now

I just used the elegoo thermistor again

[clever charm]

Yeah one of the things I really don't like about the way the config is done..

I wonder if one could simply overwrite it in the save config

[high sun]

The thermistor config?

[clever charm]

Not looking too hot

[clever charm]

For thermistor stepper and other stuff

[high sun]

In Cosmos? Yeah, I don't see why not?

[high sun]

Looks too hot

[clever charm]

Shite

I need to do some fan restriction testing. That's the part I didn't do cause I didn't have the fan

Yeah it's basically the same

[green berry]

either u don't know how to print a speddbenchy or your cooling is literally dog shit

that's no cooling

👀

[clever charm]

Yeo

I'm gonna bet on too restrictive

The outlets are really small

[warm bane]

orrr the fan suckss

[clever charm]

that's not to be excluded xD it's the cheapest one i could find

but i'm pretty sure it's choking harder than @green berry atom when flaming hartk

[tropic gazelle]

My fans are due to arrive tomorrow. I ordered them from Ali...

[novel spruce]

Clogged in the end what was the power draw of the fan ?😆

[warm bane]

The specs sheet and the sticker on fan say 2 different values

[novel spruce]

y thats why i was asking

[warm bane]

Chinese specs ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[clever charm]

tasty tasty

aand the setup seems repeatable enough to get a good enough curve

ok that's more than accurate enough

so for a bambulab 5015 you want to be at about 150mm^2 outlet cross section...... first duct was 52 🤣 🤦‍♂️

at least that's a good learning experience

@green berry can i have your opinion on this?
does it seem reasonable to you?

btw if there were error bars they would be huge, but the trend still seems to be accurate enough

[green berry]

technically you can calculate/measure the outlet speed

and you should link that to your fan ouput

and then u can do some trials on multiple sizes

and then u can just edit the ducts until you happy

[clever charm]

bernuli?

[clever charm]

to you mean rpm?

[green berry]

what is downforce here?

[clever charm]

weight measured by a scale with the duct blowing into a glass of water

and the duct is a cone which i cut down progressively to increase diameter

[green berry]

what unit

g?

[clever charm]

yep

mm, g

[green berry]

have u measured fan?

directly?

4.2 seems a bit low

[clever charm]

yep that's it, and that's the highest i managed to get out of it

that was with the fan basically in the water and splashing everywhere

so tl;dr restrictive duct + underpowered fan

also take the actual numbers with a grain of salt. my setup is jank to say the least

[green berry]

where does the curve stop suddenly

150ig

altho the formula is fore sure with area

so +-

[clever charm]

yeah i think that fan to fan and duct to duct variations will make this a bit different too.
doing the meth to get veloity

i think i severly fucked something up in the simulation

red is outlet velocity but very approximate

think i'll aim for 120mm^2

that's still more than 2x what i initially had

[clever charm]

ok i'm getting way better at tspline modelling

still hard skill issued

[clever charm]

Hope this one works well

Added more angle to it as well as doubling the cross section

[clever charm]

need to revisit the geometry a bit but this looks not bad

[clever charm]

@green berry vibe check?

gonne buy some wine monday

i'm doing it

just had a crazy week

[green berry]

just don't ask for money now, I have none

[clever charm]

same xD but nah .enough to throw wine at a random racoon

[green berry]

I just sold some k1c nozzles for 50 euros

but I need to pay rent

[clever charm]

i really hope this goes well

[tropic gazelle]

Hurry up! I'm ready to test it 😄

[clever charm]

tell that to simscale xd

[clever charm]

if you want a diversion you still need to change the connector

[tropic gazelle]

Already done 😉 straight after the photo

[clever charm]

the run i started this morning ran out of memory :(

[tropic gazelle]

🙁

[clever charm]

i really should get openfoam setup to have faster simulations....

[tropic gazelle]

free & opensource 😉

and it's running local on 127.0.0.1

[clever charm]

kinda tempted to do a testprint before the simulation is done so i can test it right away

[tropic gazelle]

the new one????

[clever charm]

yep

working on a new new one now

gonna prioritize real life testing above simulations now

but it's still very good to have a sim to find what's going wrong

btw @green berry got 2 local wines

that's a picture of all time

[warm bane]

you chewed on it?

[clever charm]

nah 1 wall print with bascially no infill and with well sub optimal cooling

[warm bane]

the black one looks clean

[clever charm]

there is no black one

[warm bane]

the one behind the glas

shitass

[clever charm]

that is gray

or rather silve

[warm bane]

hahahahah

so funny

im color blind

love you

[clever charm]

that's a risky thing to say in the clogged hole

[warm bane]

i will clogg a hole alright

[warm bane]

hows the sim going baby

[clever charm]

meh

redid the duct a bit now i'm doing a testprint

[warm bane]

did @tropic gazelle also have issues with cooling?

maybe its your fan

[clever charm]

yeah but i doubt that the fan is that much worse

[tropic gazelle]

That’s a good point. I’ve already started a print job that’s taking a while. But I can test that tomorrow with my fan

[tropic gazelle]

Videos aren't helping me. I want to print something 😂

[clever charm]

well it's helping me see that the duct is a lot better

and the fan just seems to be utter dogshit

[tropic gazelle]

OK. I'll give it a go tomorrow with the fans I've got.

[clever charm]

will send you the latest file

[warm bane]

Mind doing a toolhead for this beast?

[clever charm]

bro what the fuck is this

nah

[warm bane]

Super volcano

Plssss

I need it

[clever charm]

what you need is a chube

i'll make the same rule, if someone sends me chube i make toolhead for it xD

[warm bane]

What if I send a super volcano?

[clever charm]

then i send a bioweapon back to sender

[shy cedar]

does the toolhead need heat inserts or anything for the eddy or just screw them in until they catch?

[clever charm]

exactly, like every printed thread you need to be careful, but the ones i used are more resistant

[shy cedar]

So no heat inserts just screw? If so gotcha!

Took forever to get the eddy housing off cause most of my Allen wrenches are too big lol

[clever charm]

Maybe it's worth having a wide duct that narrows sharply at the end. Keeping airspeed and thus boundary drag low for the most part and speedimg up in the last bit

[novel spruce]

Sorry i just tought of you when i saw it 🤣🤣
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DW6HG2pPXiS/?igsh=ajcxNTI1cHR3cG90

[clever charm]

@tropic gazelle. btw please don't print this, this duct design doesn't work that well.

[blissful vigil]

Proxima_v14.gif

[tropic gazelle]

You just want me to print it 😄

[dawn barn]

@clever charm
Are you to work on a new toolhead for the Canvas?

[clever charm]

Given the price and the underwhelming performance of this one, I'll probably be doing that yeah

[noble mesa]

@drifting tusk gave me photos with measurements of the magnet placement on her protoype canvas unit. I can dig those up for you

Magnet is 3mm

[drifting tusk]

could've just forwarded the message lol

[noble mesa]

Idk I usually don't if it's in the seekret channel

[clever charm]

I don't think I can see it if i don't have access to it

[clever charm]

So as harry found out you might need to check what the min duty cycle for the fan starting to spin is. you can mitigate this with fan kick start in orca, but you still need to check at what duty cycle% it stops spinning

[tropic gazelle]

or via settings in printer.cfg. 0.3 was my test. I need to find the sweet spot now.
But with 0.3 the 5015 for the p1s is running up from 0 to 1% without any problems. without this setting ... the fan stops under a level about from 15%

as always, without any guarantees or prior knowledge 🙂

[drifting tusk]

good ducts when

[clever charm]

Apparently they aren't too bad now, the bridge test indicate that they are better than stocm

Also I might try to make it work with canvas afterall

[tropic gazelle]

I first printed the latest version of the 5015 toolhead cleanly and then ran this test with PETG. I used Orca's default profiles without making any changes.
https://www.printables.com/model/98909-speed-bridge-bridging-test

Starting at about 195 mm, the bridges no longer sag. 👍 👌 🔥

[tropic gazelle]

@green berry Latest version of the 5015 toolhead ..... 😉
is the 3mf from @clever charm 😉

[green berry]

1.8a Y?

[tropic gazelle]

1.4

[green berry]

Warranty voided

Altho can u try with 1.2?

[tropic gazelle]

What warranty? That's an Elegoo product. 😄

[green berry]

Atom's warranty

[tropic gazelle]

i'll try @ 1.2 .... just 4 u 🍻

[green berry]

Ty

If 1.2 overheats then gonna set mainboard fan on for drivers

[tropic gazelle]

I just wrote that using Lizard 😉
"I have so many radial fans lying around... Axial fans don't make sense here, in my opinion... A nice airflow over it... Add a radial fan... and you're all set. This little fan from Elegoo just blows air around down there without any direction."

1.2 test is running

and then ... i'll try 1.8.
@green berry You told me to do that regarding the warranty

@clever charm Atom made me do it 😄

[green berry]

It is funny

We have lizard and lizard killer

[tropic gazelle]

1.2 ... no temp warnings !

go 4 warranty 😄

let's start

My hand is on the emergency stop button

[green berry]

it will be too late

sip

tmc has 2 errors

warning and error

if u get to error it means your drivers at somewhere near 150C

or more

warning is 130 iirc

so if u get red notif instead of yellow

get a new mobo

[tropic gazelle]

to late 😄
It's really fascinating what the CC1 can actually do....

[green berry]

why new mobo? cause there is a chance your drivers will desolder themselves

sip

[tropic gazelle]

😂

Solder joints can withstand temperatures of around 250°C... right?

ok ... got a layer shift :/

😢

[green berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eye-rolling-window-up-gif-13323690016508828792

okey we need fan for drivers

noted

[tropic gazelle]

no ... we don't ned them g Let me say something silly for a change 😄 🍻

[clever charm]

Thank you...

[green berry]

cause of you monsters

[clever charm]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1367538416539013122/1487581810102763682/1489611785181986826 👀

[green berry]

it doesn't happen at 1 or 1.2 A

[clever charm]

yo

@tropic gazelle

https://www.printables.com/model/1694872-proxima-toolhead-cover-for-elegoo-centauri-carbon
Thank you

btw @tropic gazelle @vernal harbor if you want me to link to something in the credits lmk

[tropic gazelle]

What are you thanking me for? Thank YOU

[clever charm]

cause you did a shitton of testing that confirmed that i just have a shitty fan

and you pushed me to the carto mount 😒

i expect a full bed mesh in less than 10s

[tropic gazelle]

But don't forget the note about the starting speed 😉

[clever charm]

yep just added it

[tropic gazelle]

Just saw it... even with a Carto mount ❤️

[clever charm]

yep

i think i'm deliberately not gonna say anything about carto

if you know what you're doing you know. if not well then you don't need to know

[tropic gazelle]

🍻

[warm bane]

told you bruh dont ever doubt yourself gang

[clever charm]

well the first duct design probably actually was shit

though i think @tropic gazelle has it so he could test it if he so pleases

[clever charm]

yeye internet confidence is king xD

i should learn

[warm bane]

yessir

i dont know shit

but if you say it like a ceo

youre king

[vernal harbor]

My username is something like @vernal harbor_4792995

[tropic gazelle]

btw... eddy mount? I can't find it in the current file 😉

[alpine quartz]

well its time to upgrade from the ACCTC to proxima

[alpine quartz]

is there any links where i can get the 5015 fan?

[clever charm]

nope, but i can give you the link of the fan i got, which i can strongly recommend to avoid

[tropic gazelle]

i'm using this one ..
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005010178406837.html

[alpine quartz]

$4 fan $6 shipping lol

typical ali

[green berry]

So 10 bucks with free shipping

[clever charm]

Turns out that my cooling issues was just plain stupidity on my end with a 0.6mm nozzle

[clever charm]

With the correct nozzle it absolutely rips

Asa with 65c chamber

[green berry]

you tried printing 0.6 nozzle as fast as 0.4?

lmao

[clever charm]

I did a lot of stupid shit

It's safe to say that a 0.6mm is strongly not recommended for printing proxima

[green berry]

I mean people did worse than that

well with bigger nozzles you print bigger but not faster

it is faster cause less layers

[clever charm]

Yeah I still lost an insane amount of time scratching my head

[green berry]

and bigger layers = needs more cooling

[clever charm]

Now I wonder if the tighter ducts don't actually perform better

[green berry]

it's okey

could

[clever charm]

I mean it's easy enough to test now that Ive got a shitton of different designs flying around

[tropic gazelle]

the bigger the better 😄
Now imagine all of that with a 1.0 nozzle 😂

Although... I actually have a 0.8 for my TZ4 here to test

[clever charm]

OK new ducts are a lot better than the old narrow ones

And with that I think that development is done for a while

[novel elk]

Whelp time to replace my og clogged nozzle tool head

https://tenor.com/view/into-the-mines-moria-fellowship-gandalf-of-the-rings-gif-26691387

[clever charm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/elegoo/comments/1t308ap/proxima_toolhead_for_centauri_carbon_a_ultra/ finally did it

[noble mesa]

It's ok just do what se3d does and do no no real testing and claim a huge improvement anyway

[drifting tusk]

CPAP WHEN!?

[green berry]

WHY ARE WE YELLING??

[clever charm]

When someone sends me everything needed for it
I'm not throwing unnecessary money at the cc

[green berry]

OC fund

[clever charm]

bruh you were fast

[green berry]

I am free today

Had to do a lot of tests

Blood test

[clever charm]

how's your liver?

[green berry]

Still working

Where my french wine

Also i have -300 euros until end of month

[clever charm]

it's sitting here, with your constellation. waiting on me to not be lazy 🤣

[green berry]

2 qb v2

Car parts for side job

Canvas

List goes on

I am literally poor

Amd today took day off for health reasons

[clever charm]

not to sound like a dick, but shouldnt you have a job that is pretty lucrative?

[green berry]

Lucrative, maybe, well paid nope

That's why i have to do side jobs

[clever charm]

wdym?

eitherway i hope that you get a job that pays enough

[green berry]

I have 100 euros left per month

[clever charm]

are you self employed?

[green berry]

No

Engineering pays shit

Welcome to romaninstan

[noble mesa]

Is this where you annoint the centauri carbon with a liberal slathering of goat blood to test if it soothes it's hateful spirit and causes it to print better?

[celest vector]

jfc 💀

smth smth oversalting

[celest vector]

water also has a lot of internal friction. I don't see how this would translate well into anything meaningful

[high sun]

still haunts me

[clever charm]

yeah from my testing the results are basically the same if going into water or not

[high sun]

First layer could be better but is fine

[obsidian aurora]

That looks fcking sick dude

Once I source a 5015 fan imma make this

[novel spruce]

@green berry out of curiosity where exactly do you work? I mean for the knowledge you have its weird to be paid low

[clever charm]

no wonder i was having cooling issues.... it's amazing how over time of stuff just working you forget the basics

[high sun]

🤔 why would this cause your undercooling issues? (am dumb)

[clever charm]

It would make the fan spin at 85% for 6s layers, basically making it just go fast in really short layers

[clever charm]

Also my undercooling issues weren't undercooling but extrusion issues

[high sun]

Ah, I see

Have you had to adjust your cooling settings since moving to Proxima?

[celest vector]

a sad attempt at hiding the amogus 😔

you have to embrace the amogus

[clever charm]

Don't you dare spread the amogus

[clever charm]

Nope not really, just noticed my shitty pla profile

Also doing a print which depended on cooling to function

And I'd love to know but it seems that between 70% and 100% there is a humongous speed difference....
But my tach pin is dead so I can't know

[high sun]

I believe we might have the same fan. I can maybe check and report back

[clever charm]

oh yeah would be nice to have a pwm rpm curve

i'd like to make one but i'm unable to

[clever charm]

inside the duct?

[high sun]

Fan in question: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010017903310.html
The reported RPM was a little noisy so I took what seemed like a reasonable value between the fluctuations.
I took this fromn the UI in Mainsail, but maybe there is a better way to do this?

[high sun]

Ye

[clever charm]

i mean the trend curve is pretty clear to me, im omore than good enough

[high sun]

promfessional

[high sun]

Did a second pass at 5% increments. Interesting how much it can fluctuate

9% is the lowest the fan will start at

I also have one of these if you wanted me to run the same test on that https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0G43DMXRF

[clever charm]

Yeah at low speeds you have to take hysterisis into account

It should draw a parrelogram of sorts

[high sun]

fancy ass shape

[clever charm]

yep

but this graph is really really amazing

[high sun]

Noice. I didn't have any issues with the screws splitting the print which I did with the 5020 version.

@clever charm idk if we're still doing this 🤷‍♂️ 5.3g at full pelt

I think it's fine, but I need to find some right sized button head screws since one of the cap head screws I used very slightly collides with the cutter and moves it ~1-2mm

[green berry]

5.3 is great

altho you should use water on top

[high sun]

Don't got any

[green berry]

wdym

are you living in desert?

[high sun]

I turned it all into piss

[high sun]

some days it sure feels like it

[clever charm]

yeah thickened that part quite a bit as a consequence!

[clever charm]

holy shit....

[high sun]

wtf Atom stole my airflow. 1.1g

Did I fuck up the first time I wonder

[clever charm]

xD that's closer to the result i was getting

[high sun]

Okay, yeah, I think my tare fucked up on the first result. My bad.
1.8g, no water. Went to 0g with fan off, so seems a valid result

[clever charm]

yeah that seems a lot more in line with what i've been measuring

[high sun]

btw @clever charm, could absolutely be user error, but I think the uploaded Proxima 3mf includes full printer, filament and process settings. You normally just include the object settings, right?

[clever charm]

Fuck

[high sun]

is okay. i just cursed your bloodline while i set everything back

[clever charm]

should be fixed on printables now

[tropic gazelle]

Actually, we do have the speed pins for both fans on the toolhead listed in machine.cfg... but they aren't being displayed. In OpenCosmos, however, a warning would appear if the fan wasn't spinning....

[clever charm]

mine is being displayed... at 0 i think the pin is simply broken

[noble mesa]

btw tach is a bit broken, there is an issue on the cosmos github

[novel elk]

Thought yall might get a laugh out of this @noble mesa @clever charm . Every single time I go searching for something on aliexpress I think about how everything I am looking at is probably coming from the same factory line

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/NzQkhb2iwaMbj7BfKw

[noble mesa]

loooool this is too accurate.

[celest vector]

@clever charm heard you like fans?

[drifting tusk]

but what about two of them?

or this?

[clever charm]

Baller

[clever charm]

Yooo another 40mm thick fan toolhead

[celest vector]

dayum

[clever charm]

the fun part is that it has the exact same power usage as the stock 5020

[celest vector]

quite a lot more efficient though I imagine

[clever charm]

i think most fans are that xD

[celest vector]

how much of the noise is the server psu fan?

[celest vector]

otoh small fans are better for static pressure iirc

[clever charm]

who needs static pressure when you got a good duct

[celest vector]

also have this pisstech fan that's a bit more powerful

[drifting tusk]

0.5%

very quiet PSU

[tropic gazelle]

Just measured. Measurement probe in the nozzle at the nozzle tip.

[clever charm]

that's not good

[tropic gazelle]

Both use the same stock sensor. One is configured like the Elegoo, and the other is configured with the Kalico NTC100 adjustment.

[clever charm]

what are the results for generic 3950 then?

[tropic gazelle]

Give me a minute

[high sun]

hey I've got one of those!

mine blue

[tropic gazelle]

@clever charm

[noble mesa]

sorry can you explain what is going on here, this is reading with a thermistor inside the filament path and the original sensor at two temperature?

[tropic gazelle]

I compare the actual temperature at the nozzle tip with an external measuring device. “SOLL” is the temperature measured by the thermistor on the hot end. “IST” is the temperature from the measuring device.

[noble mesa]

ah that makes sense. And this is allways with the same stock thermistor?

[tropic gazelle]

jup

[warm bane]

mine broke at the extender

idk how

[lusty bronze]

Mine is literally less than a foot away on my desk 🤣

[vernal harbor]

I also have one of these

[shy cedar]

Max and min bed mesh parameters for this tool head?!

[noble mesa]

same as stock

[shy cedar]

Cool cool. Idk why mine throws out of range

More testing I guess lol

[clever charm]

Asa is not heat resistant enough

[high sun]

wtf are you printing? peek?

[clever charm]

Nah just plain asa

[tropic gazelle]

Good to know. I still have some PA6-CF lying around. 😄

[clever charm]

Yeah using this as my excuse to dry my nylon for real now

[noble mesa]

make sure to anneal if you go that route

[clever charm]

But floppy voron gantry looks funky

[noble mesa]

💀

[clever charm]

Why is my bed mesh off?

[tropic gazelle]

And that was PA6? .... Crazy!

[noble mesa]

yes, never used and no belt strung, just the weight of the motor

[drifting tusk]

congrats on inventing self adjusting geometry

[clever charm]

On an other side note I shorted the heater leads with a screw and now its at 100% all the time

[green berry]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-17258096266802987535

[clever charm]

Welp i think it's time I buy an ams..... Need new fan and toolhead board anyways

[novel spruce]

Now you understand me when mine melted🥲

[noble mesa]

lol

half of my reason for buying canvas

[novel spruce]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1B88cLM4ty/ @clever charm

[clever charm]

Lol no

[clever charm]

I dint really understand as much as commiserate

But I'm starting to have a suspicion that happens in the first layer or while heatsoaking

I have my bed at 110c and as @tropic gazelle found out that's an understatement

[novel spruce]

Prob that was the problem on mine too asa wanted only 110 from by buildplate any lower and would not stick

I had better adherence for sa on the diamond patern plate than the default textured one

[heady coyote]

SE3D has a newer design that doesn’t use the pegs as screw mounts, only as guide pins with a separate plate to hold the fan in place. Works great. Waiting for his next one for the CANVAS system (has a magnet to detect cover popping off).

[noble mesa]

@clever charm's is much better

[clever charm]

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-lizard-hoppers-pixar-tom-gif-5562936930860823396

[clever charm]

Yours is too

Starting by not unnecessarily restricting airflow

And not being a wet noodle of stiffness

[noble mesa]

true but at this juncture yours has better airflow optimization than mine and the mounting for fan is better. the magnetic connects are a nice feature for people that want it but I really need to port your design changes into gamma soon™

[noble mesa]

ye. but also its kind of not hard to beat a design done by someone who advertises printing a chamber heater fabricated out of two bambu heaters and pentium heatsinks in HTPLA. the bar is not exactly high

I'll stop being a catty bitch now

[clever charm]

@vague adder any explanation for that combustion powered chamber heater btw?

[noble mesa]

god damnit don't ping him right after I was talking shit

[clever charm]

I was doing it too, lets go down together

[noble mesa]

lol

[clever charm]

Also last time he got pinged in here it wasn't necessarily better

So I think there isn't much to save eother

[noble mesa]

what happened then? I forgot

[clever charm]

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OK it's a lot less direct

[noble mesa]

lol I forgot this discourse

[warped coral]

wait what... my PA612-ESD isn't safe?

https://klipy.com/gifs/skeleton-132--k01KRHPNWRTRHV4Y6N3TZTFX7XV

it was nice knowing you guys

[clever charm]

Where's this coming from all of a sudden?

[warped coral]

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[clever charm]

Welp i think I can say that I told you the reduction of this

But yeah just coat your filament to make it esd

[drifting tusk]

pahahahaha

how much did you print

[warped coral]

only a few dozen grams so far

shits expensive

[alpine quartz]

https://a.co/d/0dMVw0VR

Found this one on Amazon. Will test soon as it comes tomorrow

also, does round or hex fan cutout have any differences in performance

[clever charm]

probably yes, but not in an amount that i could measure or that would matter for printing

[clever charm]

Just had a though... Adding canvas and cc2 support should super easy for acctc

how deep is it placedx?

is it at the same height as the fan?

[drifting tusk]

ye

[clever charm]

@drifting tusk do you have an idea how thick the magnet is?

[drifting tusk]

how would I know that

🤡

[clever charm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lkzQSklzkfqUzSd4j3

ok this looks a bit goofy, but i think it will work

[alpine quartz]

Are any of the wires flipped

from 5020 to 5015

or just match 5020 layout

[dire canyon]

the 5015 I got was originally for the Adventurer and the pinout was VPRG, elgoo is PRVG. If you have the Bambu fan, I have no idea, the ribbon cable doesn't use colors instead opting for shades of grey and the fan pcb is unlabled so you're on your own

[dire canyon]

oh I just saw your amazon link. looks like ground and v would be swapped on that one. This is the other bambu fan on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXV26NWN?ref=fed_asin_title

I thought that just the photo was greyscale, but no, the fan came in the mail and the fucking ribbon connector is actually shades of grey lol

[alpine quartz]

lol that’s horrendous

6cfm 7800rpm mine is 10cfm higher rpm but cost is cheaper?

[clever charm]

I should maybe add on the model page to check for the pinout.

[clever charm]

My fan has 3 different power ratings, I straight up don't trust the numbers unless it's from a reputable manufacturer and seller

[alpine quartz]

add that you need to transplant the connector as well. pictures of stock pinout and replacement ones can help

[heady coyote]

Any idea what the pin out is? Black = ? Red? Gray? White? I have a package of micro connectors that I can splice in to make them work.

[clever charm]

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[tropic gazelle]

@heady coyote You can just rewire it. Just use the Elegoo connector.

[heady coyote]

I understand, I do like to keep my Elegoo parts as is.. that’s why I have the micro connectors.

[alpine quartz]

so much more quieter than stock

[noble mesa]

oh sleeve bearing? thats less good

[tropic gazelle]

It's still better and quieter than the Elegoo Stock 5020 😄

I want to convince Lizard to make a 5015 version 😄
https://meltbro.de/d3vil-design-HoneyBadger-D3vilDesign-Devil-Design-DevilDesign-5015-radial-luefter-fan-505015-typhon-typoon-blower-stealthburner.html

[alpine quartz]

i just realized that the fan i bought and installed is a 5015 not a 5020…

[noble mesa]

oh of course, but the concern with sleeve is durability, they don't last nearly as long especialyl at high temp. I'm a bit skeptical a regular 5015 would work well in this config, for stealthburner you need to dissect it for a reason.

Normally I would reccomend gdstime or the beserker fans but the former doesnt come in 4 pin and the latter is out of stock. these are some other good options. it looks like the the snapmaker u1 and flashforge ad5x/m fans should work
https://www.r3men.com/products/5015-wide-outlet-blower-fan-2-pin-r3-fan?variant=48281912180979
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809962779984.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256811343538643.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256810492910488.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809727523946.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256811697339699.html

[noble mesa]

for the proxima one it should be 5015

[alpine quartz]

ah shit would have been good to have this yesterday

i got the one where the wide mouth exhaust comes out so i had to grind it down

[noble mesa]

yeah speed on this is suspiciously low for the listed current draw

[alpine quartz]

i’m tripping, just saw the title and thought it was supposed to be 5020

[noble mesa]

oh yeah two different toolhead covers

[alpine quartz]

https://a.co/d/0awtPPRl
This is also a good option. Pinout is the same as the stock, just need to transplant the connector.

and of course 1 day prime ❤️

[noble mesa]

oh this looks good, is competitevly price and is available on prime. I've not seen this exact style before

[high sun]

@clever charm https://www.printables.com/model/1725441-centauri-carbon-canvas-toolhead

[novel elk]

Now do it for https://www.printables.com/model/1694872-proxima-toolhead-cover-for-elegoo-centauri-carbon

[high sun]

not my model btw

[novel elk]

Oh I know. I meant someone should remix the proxima for the Canvas.

[clever charm]

I'll look at it, but just putting the magnet onto the daughterboard screw is smort

What I don't like is that it's only a stl

No step nor 3mf....

And I got a bit of free time on my hands again so

[frigid star]

So I spent my weekend modding a toolhead so it works with the canvas unit on my CC1.

[clever charm]

Does the filament hub swivel?

[frigid star]

Swivel?

[clever charm]

Like turn on itself

[frigid star]

No

[clever charm]

The cutout this big sacrifices quite a bit of structural integrity

[frigid star]

Thank you, that was me 😆

[frigid star]

I have to disagree. This feels solid when screwed in place.

[clever charm]

Thing is there isn't really a thing as solid enough, everything you get into it being more solid translates into cleaner prints. That's also the reason I went a lot more solid for proxima

And there is a balance to strike with mass, but that's one of the most structurally important parts

[frigid star]

Good point and I dont know enough to say anything sensible about those specifics

But I am going to keep using this toolhead for a while. So how it holds up and what my results are going to be from now on.

I like the design.

[clever charm]

Do you mind if I backport the adjustments you made so that it works with eddy and different customisation options?

That magnet placement idea is really a gamechanger

[frigid star]

I can send you the files tomorrow, I have 3mfs

[frigid star]

That was just a lucky break.

[clever charm]

Dont think I'll need it, the stl will do aswell thank you.

[clever charm]

@drifting tusk could i pwease hawe a picture of the toolhead front daughterboard with the front cowling removed? from the front side and top pwease uwu

[drifting tusk]

not at home atm

[clever charm]

bruh why do you have a social life 😒

(thank you)

[drifting tusk]

I'm in a pizza shop with a friend rn

coding

xd

anything in here that's useful for you? https://photos.i.devminer.xyz/share/rGVpoCHUZpAjO77uxj2CMECa_wulsXSgxWEM7iaKFf3lOWh73bXb3BTJ6fWYz0xwbC8

[clever charm]

you rock

[drifting tusk]

I human

you lizard xd

[clever charm]

oh shizz

[clever charm]

@frigid star how well does the magnet stay in place? does it also stay under extreme accelerations?

oh also reading your changes, i'd recommend keeping the intake hole the same size i did

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466083137967755356/1472005914067472588/image.png?ex=6a0d9596&is=6a0c4416&hm=44a6bb02ade42fbbe20c331730b16d74f9d550147e7739da35e71de8d78c7fbc& here's the data that lead to the diameter

https://discordapp.com/channels/1367538416539013122/1466083137967755356/1472020389130403971

also same for the ridge, though i'm gonna make it smaller as it's indeed a huge pain in the ass to get the fan back out

[frigid star]

I mainly print PETG and it stays in place. I could load up a roll of PLA and run a ludicrous benchy to make sure.

Hmm interesting, so airflow on the Y-axis? I think the hole I put in it is 33-34mm.

[clever charm]

Would someone be willing to do some tests for me?
I think I have a canvas compatible version that should work but since I don't have it I can't be sure

[green berry]

I am busy

I can test later

what changed?

[clever charm]

Not much, just some minor cutouts to fit cc1 canvas inspired by what gekkeur did

[frigid star]

What do you need tested?

[clever charm]

Ive had chirimorin help me, but basically doing the same thing you did while trying my best to preserve strength

[dire canyon]

Printed on polymaker ASA and with a microswiss hotend she's getting a little melty. I have some Fiberon ASA-CF coming in the mail for another project, which has a 10c higher glass transition temp, hopefully that does the trick.

[noble mesa]

Protip: avoid polymaker for ABS/ASA and and generally for midrange materials, they are only decent at either extreme

[frigid star]

I'm using PETG now, but seeing this makes me thing it wont hold up. PC has a Tg of 140+°C, that should be fine right?

[noble mesa]

sure, if its real PC

but thats an if

a lot of pc on the market now is half PETG or ABS

lot of undisclosed blending going on on unfortunately PC mixes with a hell of a lot of plastics well

if you do have real PC you won't be able to print it in a CC without a chamber heater. Even with a 70-75C chamber in my V0 I get warping if I am not very careful with settings

I would just go with ABS or ASA.

[frigid star]

All new information for me

[noble mesa]

pet-gf will also work well. I didnt even anneal my toolhead cover and it hasn't warped. tbh it probably annealed during long abs and PPS prints. The downside is pet is much more dense than abs/asa

[frigid star]

I did go through one spool of polymaker clear pc on my cc.... printed a new bedholder and toolhead for my ender 3 v3 ke, and a lamp that sits on my heating radiator. So I need to look into what you are saying

[noble mesa]

looks like polymaker sds only lists it as being >80% polycarbonate so unclear what elese is in there. TDS says Tg is 113 and HDT is 99 so its probably got some petg in it but should be ok for this application since it is still pretty high and creep wont be so big of a deal for a cover

[frigid star]

Thanks for showing me this!

[clever charm]

So I've had the same issue. For me it was during preheating, that the toolhead was too close to the 110c bed and just had no chance to survive

[queen sable]

Maybe that phase needs just a little bit of air movement to keep the plastic from heatsoaking and getting soft

20% part cooling fan

[clever charm]

Probably more distance, proxima goes a bit a lower than others and it seems to be just enough to keep in mind while heatsoaking

[clever charm]

I had that happen on 100%

Took a blowtorch to it and it's back flat but eh not the best solution

Probably will reprint it out pa612-cf when I do the cc1c/cc2 version

[alpine quartz]

fiberon pa612 cf has been holding up great for me

[clever charm]

@deft ferry could you measure how thick the filament detection board is? basically this distance. rn i have my mockup at 5mm

[deft ferry]

humm

wdym

Where is the filament detection board huh

[clever charm]

that's the metallic grey part

[deft ferry]

what happened to u broser?

[clever charm]

this maybe makes it makes more sense

[deft ferry]

aaaah

i'll i am printing a duck rn

[clever charm]

heatsoaking the chamber with bed at 110c and the cover basically sitting on it

[deft ferry]

¿?

[deft ferry]

oosh

what material?

[clever charm]

elegoo asa

[deft ferry]

tf and it's melting

[clever charm]

mainly how far it sticks out the front, the rest is less critical

[clever charm]

well 110c bed with a lot of airflow to help it heat up xD

[deft ferry]

right?

[deft ferry]

lul

[deft ferry]

omg

you did the image

sorry

[clever charm]

exactly

[deft ferry]

i'll give u the measurements

[clever charm]

ye currently making the cc1 canvas and i guess cc2 with non stock fan version

[deft ferry]

cant you take a design from someone who made that weird thing

stock fan cc2

but mb it's better to use that 5020 fan

[deft ferry]

he did it

ah but you want it to be suitable with the cc2 too

[clever charm]

tbh i struggle to see the point, i'll adapt the 5015 fanshroud for the cc2, but having it be constrained to use a bad duct and a one off unobtanium fan is not great

[deft ferry]

okai

what screws i have to buy?

I have been checking but i am not 100% sure that is what i found

https://www.amazon.es/EMSea-Ventilador-Extrusora-Compatible-FlashForge/dp/B0FTY444QW/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&sr=8-7 fan

2 M3x14 BHCS https://www.amazon.es/AERZETIX-tornillos-metálicos-fijación-elementos/dp/B0FXFTR6BQ/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&s=industrial&sr=1-4
1 M3x12 FHCS https://www.amazon.es/QUARKZMAN-Tornillos-Phillips-M3x12-0-5mm-Completo/dp/B0G5PZRGSQ/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&s=industrial&sr=1-2

https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B084Q4XZQG/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A2PIX6HGWVK6IA M3x12

[clever charm]

um for now i haven't even modified it to fit the cc2, but i'm gonna modify proxima for it

[deft ferry]

So no rare screws? hh

i own this pack

[clever charm]

the m3x14mm countersunks might work, but i'd recommend button heads for securing the fan

as for the back bumper i'm going to modify it to accept the stock screws

[deft ferry]

alr

[clever charm]

@frigid star can i steal your picture to add to the description?

[deft ferry]

xd

[clever charm]

you printing glass?

[deft ferry]

hahaha

[clever charm]

man i feel stupid

[deft ferry]

why hahah

[clever charm]

i think proxima supports every centauri carbon printer now

and it took 1h30

fucking dogshit attitude

all it took was +1.5mm and a different front cutout

now ideally someone with a cc2 and a 5015 fan wants to test it xD

[deft ferry]

5015 is stock?

[clever charm]

nope

[deft ferry]

ah

true

dmm

[clever charm]

stock is a weird cast in place 5020 odball fan that only exists for the cc2

[deft ferry]

xd

it hurts buying shit screws for 10€/pack

what screws you made it for

[clever charm]

Only screws that aren't in the toolhead already are 2 M3x14 iirc. It's on the printables

[deft ferry]

How is the CC1 fan mounted/attached?

I don't have these screws in the cc2

the black ones i guess m3x5 work

but for the fan its m3x14 iirc?

[clever charm]

It's not this fan, that's a 5020.
I should really split these channels up as there are 2 different toolhead for 3 different printer configs in here

[deft ferry]

That is the stock fan from the cc1

Mb i can convert stock cc2 fan to 5015?

Printer is ending soon srry for the waiting

Took more time than i expected

[deft ferry]

I broke the hotend fan xd

What model is it

3010

8mm

[deft ferry]

8mm

8.1mm

@clever charm

[clever charm]

Tyvm! So my 5mm assumption was wildly off

[clever charm]

Yep

[clever charm]

You can plug whatever 4 pin 24v pmw fan into it, yeah. Just check the pinout first

So cc1 is widemouth 5020
Cc1 canvas is the same
And cc2 is custom "5020" but only the fan blades and nothing more standart

Then there is the proxima toolhead which uses common widemouth 5015

[tropic gazelle]

never ever! Stock is a 4pin 5020 widemouth

[deft ferry]

Can you tell me what should i buy including fan for the cc2? Thanks haha

Im lost

[clever charm]

There are 2 options. I'll detail them later when I have the time

[novel elk]

After I finish rebuilding my cc1 I could print the tool head cover and try on my cc2

[deft ferry]

oook

i broke the propeller of the 3010 fan

cant i just replace it?

hard to get fast delivery 3 wire fan

[novel elk]

I mean yeah I’m sure there is a model somewhere

[deft ferry]

but is good to take it off?

without breaking it

i can get a 3010 fan but only 2 wires

[novel elk]

But being as small as those fans are, any fdm printed blades would be hella fragile

Could always try super gluing the broken blade lol

[deft ferry]

idk

too hard bcs is too small

found it

[frigid star]

So about that fan, the new one is loud! Louder than the partcooling fan. Any silent options?

[deft ferry]

Yeep

I told lizard

[noble mesa]

the 5015? There aren't really silent options that wont be much worse. within the same form factor flow/static preassure strongly correlate with fan speed, which strongly correlates with noise. You can of course turn fan speed down on any higher speed fan to get the same effect as a "quieter fan"

[deft ferry]

3010

[noble mesa]

same story on the 3010

you need to run it at very high speed to get the required static preassure

[frigid star]

I meant tje 3010, should be more specific, sorry

[deft ferry]

i think its not very good mounted

[clever charm]

The 5015 is noticeably less loud than the stock 5020, tho that might also just correlate with performancr

[deft ferry]

bcs it does vibration

[deft ferry]

about 50's, what one i buy? For cc2

[noble mesa]

the 3010 needs to be at least 12k rpm if you are going to match the oem

[noble mesa]

yeah the elegoo fan is stupid high speed with 0.5 A draw. I think its the duct that kneecaps it

[deft ferry]

It's the 0.10A original from elegoo what i am going to get

[noble mesa]

elegoo said it was 12k rpm as well, its the only fan with have an actual speed spec from them

[deft ferry]

lol 0.10a 12k rpm

[deft ferry]

For cc2 then i get the 5015?

[noble mesa]

if you replace the fan any cc1 duct that supports canvas will also work on cc2

[deft ferry]

but 5015 or 5020

[noble mesa]

👆

the duct just has to be designed for the fan in question

[clever charm]

So for now 5020 is the only option, but I'm working on making the 5015 work aswell

[deft ferry]

so both

okay

thank you man

[clever charm]

bruh i feel the pressure xD

[deft ferry]

good work good work

keep on it

still dunno what scrws to get xD

can you tell me what screws for the toolhead the cc1 uses please? @clever charm

[clever charm]

it depends...

for acctc (5020 stock cc1 fan) you can get away with no extra screws.
for proxima you need 2 M3x14BHCS

[deft ferry]

for cc2

[clever charm]

i am not making a toolhead cover that uses the cc2 fan

the only fanshroud i am doing that works for the cc2 as of now is acctc https://www.printables.com/model/1575497-another-centauri-carbon-toolhead-cover

but i'm currently also working on making this one compatible for the cc2 https://www.printables.com/model/1694872-proxima-toolhead-cover-for-elegoo-centauri-carbon

[deft ferry]

again xd

I have the cc2 and i need to know what screws i need (i don't have any stock screws for the toolhead cover)

just that

just the 4 scews 2 left 2 right

[clever charm]

and the ones on the back

[deft ferry]

tru

3 back

that's all i have

[clever charm]

#1466083137967755356 message

[deft ferry]

only 2 screws?

proxima compability with cc2?

xD

Sorry fr

oh ok you are making proxima compatible

yes i think only 2 screws for the fan, but confirm

xd

[clever charm]

yep that's it, the rest you can reuse stock

[deft ferry]

m3x14bhcs

and the 5015 is 4 w

ok

[deft ferry]

i am lucky

i got the 3010 and the 5020 original elegoo

and from a local shop 2h from me hhhhhh

😄

get that cover @clever charm

[noble mesa]

check the CAD, all fasteners are there

[deft ferry]

i got it i already know what to do

[clever charm]

I'm gonna start asking payment for micromanagement

[deft ferry]

Hahahahas

I need 5020

Are you making proxima for 5020?

[clever charm]

No

[deft ferry]

how much?

[clever charm]

5020 already is available for cc2 and it's the acctc

[deft ferry]

not proxima

hh

[clever charm]

Doesn't need to be, the fan is so overpowered that it doesn't need a complicated duct

[deft ferry]

oh proxima works for 5015 and 5020 you say?

[clever charm]

i don't know if you're trolling me or not

proxima is 5015 only

acctc (another centauri carbon toolhead cover) is 5020 only and can be used for the cc1, cc1 canvas and cc2

[deft ferry]

Ok i have to explain that my english is quite bad

I didn't read that good

Well i say it bcs i like proxima, and want to use it with the 5020 that's all

[clever charm]

yeah but that would still require you to buy a different fan. the cc1 fan and cc2 fan are not the same. they are both technically 5020 but the cc2 has a one off shroud

btw i think proxima for cc1c and cc2 is ready to be tested

who could i ping to annoy and help me test

@fallow orchid 👉 👈 🥺 uwu?

[fallow orchid]

huh what's up

[clever charm]

would you want to test a 5015 fanshroud for cc1 canvas and cc2?

[fallow orchid]

maybe later, currently playing gam with friends

cc2 is tricky as the fan is molded into the thing

[clever charm]

yeah it uses a off the shelf 5015 instead of fudging with that

basically just uses a bbl fan

[fallow orchid]

hm don't know if i have a 5015 around

oh wait the cc fan has one

[deft ferry]

With the 5020???????

xD

[clever charm]

NOOOOOO

[deft ferry]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[clever charm]

😭

[deft ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

Do it.

[clever charm]

na

[deft ferry]

or I shot

[clever charm]

then shoot

[deft ferry]

hhh

[clever charm]

wdym?

[deft ferry]

man i want proxima with the 5020

how much

give it a price

[drifting tusk]

[clever charm]

there is some pain that i'm not accepting money for

[deft ferry]

xd

[clever charm]

yeah at least 67 euro

[deft ferry]

oosh

that is half printer

[clever charm]

it's just that it would take a shitton of time to get it to the same standart as proxima

[deft ferry]

😢

Well i guess i have to get the 5015

[clever charm]

you can go up a bit if you want. but proxima has took 9 cfd simulation runs

[deft ferry]

wow

[deft ferry]

yep

w 5015 in the cc?

well i shut up

[clever charm]

idk if that clears stuff up

[clever charm]

that's what i'd recommend, it's a lot lot lot less loud while improving overall cooling performance with proxima

[deft ferry]

Good job

[deft ferry]

oke

[clever charm]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-discord-ping-funny-gif-27594479

[deft ferry]

not me

[clever charm]

ok so here is the first version of proxima which should support the entire centauri carbon series

if anyone is willing to test this on their cc1 canvas or cc2 i'd be very happy!

[blissful vigil]

Proxima_v19.gif

[clever charm]

key differences to released proxima:

• moved fan 3mm forwards to allow for filament detection board clearance
• top cutout bigger to accomodate hub
• back bumper has teeth to better stay in place

[deft ferry]

wat

where is the air hole

hh

ahh cool

you can make it as big as you want cool

[clever charm]

There are different ones available, but it doesn't show in the preview

[deft ferry]

i see

[clever charm]

Not really, the size is on purpose

[deft ferry]

yep i noticed

[noble mesa]

realistically the fair price to comission something like that is in the hundreds of euros. you are paying someone to spend several hours doing difficult CAD work given the duct design, and probably also new CFD modelling.

[deft ferry]

it's fine np

it's kinda joking

i can just get a 5015

[novel elk]

Again once I finish building back my cc1, I will print a proxima out of PA6-CF and try it on my CC2

[heady coyote]

Does this use stock fan or 5020 fan?

[noble mesa]

stock fan is 5020

atcc (the original start of the thread) uses stock cc1 fan proxima is 5015

[heady coyote]

I have 2 projects in my queue, once they are done…. I’m printing this. Getting prepped for my CANVAS to come in.

[deft ferry]

proxima uses 5015

don't waste filament

[novel elk]

My brother look above. Lizard just posted one that is suppose to fit both cc1 and cc2

[deft ferry]

really?

[novel elk]

Just scroll up in chat. It’s right there

[deft ferry]

hmm

i think that does not support 5020

proxima is only for 5015

[deft ferry]

.

btw the 5020 from the cc2 don't work for acctc

you have to get the 5020 from the cc1

+the custom "5020" from the cc2 is shit

[novel elk]

Wasn’t gonna reuse the cc2 fan

Was gonna use one of my own

[deft ferry]

oke oke

i love proxima but i have to get the 5015

[clever charm]

Trust me that's a good thing, the whole reason this exists is cause my 5020 burned itself out

[deft ferry]

TF how?

Bcs is not powerfull enough or w?

You mean the wires?

[clever charm]

Too powerful for not enough cooling on the electronics

[deft ferry]

lol

[clever charm]

It has a stupid amount of power and didn't like long full speed operation at 65c

At least that's the most likely thing that happened to my understanding

[deft ferry]

hhh

What about making a x2 model fan toolhead cover @clever charm

[clever charm]

Why tho...

[deft ferry]

xd

[deft ferry]

@clever charm

[clever charm]

Why are you showing me this shit?

[deft ferry]

just

[clever charm]

Omg it's a bowden stealthburner... This really has made my day worse

[deft ferry]

hahahaha

Do you have soldering station lizard?

[noble mesa]

Because you are trying to dissipate 12W in a very small fan hub right next to some cheap bearings. That’s an ender 3 hotend running at 30% power

[noble mesa]

Incidentally I toyed with the idea of dual 5015 à la archetype mjolnir

[novel elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-no-brain-cross-eyes-smooth-YTtsEX1tjFgWmN41qe

[noble mesa]

Why are you posting this absolute degeneracy in my server lol. Stealthburner, moar liek shitburner amirit? SMH

[deft ferry]

looks funny

[clever charm]

Sounds like your age was cut in half, but I couldnt agree more 🤣

[deft ferry]

Do you want me to delete it?

[noble mesa]

lol no it’s just stealth burner is comically bad by modern standards

It’s a meme at this point

[deft ferry]

voron

[novel elk]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-me-not-moving-raccoon-standing-up-gif-17639976

[deft ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1427410112716214363/1483947296378060880/shek.gif

[novel elk]

I mean thats not a voron. That is just a stealth burner on an ender 3v2

[clever charm]

That's @green berry when you ask him where his macros are 🤣

Sorry bb for pinging u

[tropic gazelle]

@green berry needs more beer! 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻

[deft ferry]

How?

What board is that of?

Fan?

[drifting tusk]

yeah, fan

[deft ferry]

tf

[clever charm]

Fan dont go reeeeeeeeeee anymore

[deft ferry]

accthc coming up

[deft ferry]

hmm @clever charm

How the air goes out?

or that is just to support?

And what about the screws?

[novel elk]

That is a premade support that you remove after printing

[novel elk]

Same with that

[deft ferry]

ooo ok

[novel elk]

They pop right off

[deft ferry]

Thank you sir

[novel elk]

🤘

[deft ferry]

What about where you "screw"

Where those screws go?

[novel elk]

Suppose to use the pegs

[deft ferry]

this?

[novel elk]

Yes

[noble mesa]

pssst, read the description of the model you are printing

[deft ferry]

Details..

Mistake

[novel elk]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[deft ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[novel elk]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-praying-raccoon-god-raccoon-heaven-raccoon-sky-raccoon-meme-gif-8929863978049516685

[deft ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q49o_VQg8C4

[green berry]

My people

[deft ferry]

Wow what a massive fan

5020

The custom "5020" of the cc2 is traash

1 day shawty

[deft ferry]

works good in cc2

but the back cover don't