Yet another 5020 toolhead (Clogged hole/AMOGUSBURNER)

[noble mesa]

sure!

[clever charm]

i think i'll put this on the model page once it's done

[warm bane]

Bro might have destroyed his non believers

[noble mesa]

Nah I am on a very strict low sugar, high malice diet

[noble mesa]

Here I'll give you endorsment blurb like they put on book sleeves

Viscerally arousing.
Dr. Baconmilkshake, PhD

[clever charm]

you know that i'll add it

and i'll link it to your printables

also gonna give huge credits for atom for helping me with the aero and sim stuff

[noble mesa]

oh god don't actually do that, I link to that page from my research center's professional website for some of our models

I don't want my colleauges to know the contents of my shitpost endorsements lol

I will do a write up on this on the OC website

[clever charm]

what?

[noble mesa]

Unfortunate typo *link

[clever charm]

thought so, but i still don't understand the message. eitherway i understood to not do that xD

[noble mesa]

Oh lol I meant I just link to my printables page for the autosampler tray and nanspray holder from my actual labs website

[clever charm]

ahhhh so you don't want your colleagues to find out how naughty you are if they click around

[clever charm]

different solution to hold the back bumper in place, hope it's gonna work a bit better

[warm bane]

clips?

[clever charm]

this is sick

[clever charm]

more like wedges that get preload from the screws

[warm bane]

ah

gotcha

[clever charm]

though now that you say that clips would be cool

[warm bane]

no.

[clever charm]

but idk how to make those to be strong enough

[warm bane]

not on 3d printed parts

at least without modifiers

[clever charm]

wdym?

[warm bane]

like 100%infill on the clips

yk

[clever charm]

they are 0.4mm thick

[warm bane]

yea but layeraddhesion

maybe im retarded

[clever charm]

eitherway they mainly serve to look good, if that part fails the back bumper might be less flush

nothing critical

[warm bane]

yeah it looks sexy

the whole design is very gelungen

[clever charm]

just had a small oopsie with the bottom of the cover being pretty much at nozzle tip height

tho that was a quick fix and makes the duct look sexier too

[warm bane]

i need red bright candy fillament

[clever charm]

elegoo red asa is awesome

that's what i used for v2 of the 5020 version

[warm bane]

https://www.3djake.de/elegoo/asa-red-7?sai=36907&gad_campaignid=21794339456 ?

[clever charm]

https://media.printables.com/media/prints/04fb16a1-4d84-47c4-a135-429fc508bff1/images/11902189_308752bd-701f-4ff4-a747-e2c02e03a7a3_91f38242-9e16-4564-a343-999a20eff1c1/thumbs/inside/1280x960/jpg/pxl_20260201_152412622.webp that's it in use

[warm bane]

vapor blastic also works for asa right?

[clever charm]

smoothing?

yeah

though i haven't tried it

[warm bane]

a tear ran down my thigh

[clever charm]

wat

[warm bane]

a white tear

[clever charm]

i might try to vapour smooth this, would be awesome

[warm bane]

yo https://www.3djake.de/elegoo/asa-green-5

i might reprint my ender with this

fuck

[clever charm]

hmmm my center of mass approximations are really really whack.... the infill really has a huge impact on the weight

[warm bane]

lightning infill

[clever charm]

bruh hell naw

might as well not infill

[warm bane]

i mean you dont need infill

you could do a modifier only where the fan gets mounted

[clever charm]

well with the settings i'm gonna recommend it's gonna weigh about 36g when printed out of asa

[warm bane]

hmm you could make the design outside of the center thinner

would be a hacky fix

[clever charm]

wdym?

[warm bane]

green area thicc

red thinn

this quite a monkey fix

[clever charm]

that's already the case, the green area has a bar spanning across and the red areas are 2mm

[warm bane]

oh

[warm bane]

maybe make a bar also on the top

like right where the fan ends

[clever charm]

i mean the top is already super chonky

and i'm willing to bet that the biggest stiffness limiter now is the screw locations themselves

[warm bane]

where is it offcenter tho

is it bottom heavy?

[clever charm]

like in fusion, fusion says that it's 120g or so

but with infill it comes down to ~30

[warm bane]

doesnt fusion take every part into account?

like fans and shit

[clever charm]

just for the printed cowling it gives it at 120g, which makes total sense since it doesn't know that it's hollow

[warm bane]

ah ok

[clever charm]

and i got no way of doing so. fusion doesn't like hollowing the duct geometry

[warm bane]

is there software that can like take gcode ?

for the the infill

[clever charm]

well fusion is supposed to do that

iirc it even has a full slicer built in

wait i'm drunk

fusion reports 57g

welp i think i only have to print and test the intake duct diameter now

and wait for my fan to ship

[novel spruce]

Did you make a version for the stock fan ?

[noble mesa]

Yup I want to keep my CFD kink in the closet haha

[clever charm]

Nope, and probably won't. Gamma and acctc are good enough cooling wise

[novel spruce]

Soo then any chance of a aliexpress link for a good 5015 fan ? XD

[clever charm]

Nope
I took the cheapest one I could find

[novel spruce]

Well if it works properly i dont mind the cheapest price

[clever charm]

welp idk if it works properly, so good luck
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005010178406837.html

[novel spruce]

Ah so the bambu onoes , out of curiosity what price does it give you on them?

[clever charm]

3,19 and i payed 3,89 for it

oh damn it's 10W

[warm bane]

0.4 a

[clever charm]

P=U*I

[warm bane]

yea?

[clever charm]

this thing is gonna rip

[warm bane]

compared to stock?

no

but nothing compares to that

[novel spruce]

Welp ali hates me then mine is double that price XD

[novel spruce]

Default has lower power draw?

[warm bane]

0.50A @ 24V

no

[novel spruce]

@clever charm in description is lower

[warm bane]

lol

the sticker says 0.4

which one is true

[clever charm]

not even sure, as bacon explained the stock fan is pretty inefficient

and with a less shit duct it might outperform it

also

[warm bane]

holy

resin printed version when

[clever charm]

if elegoo sends me a resin printer i'll print it out of transparent resin

[warm bane]

iirc they arent that good lol

[clever charm]

from what i've heard and seen irl they are not shit. i'm not able to tell how they compare to other sla printers, but the stuff i've seen looked really good

[warm bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmDXmbuNkbY

idk about the other ones

[clever charm]

well i'm not gonna put myself through the pain of doing sla unless i get one for free. also i'm not buying a elegoo printer until they get their shit together

[noble mesa]

I mean it's less than the stock fan but tbh though I could imagine the much better duct design here making up for it.

[clever charm]

so this is the center of mass with the cowling at 100% infill

[green berry]

we need alcohol not credits

sip

[green berry]

Dr. Baconmilkshakeky, PhD

or baconski

[clever charm]

ok so i've modified the shrouds for the constellation extruder so that there is a bit more room in the toolhead at places. they stuck out 1mm more than stock

[warm bane]

does your covor work with normal fans?

[clever charm]

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005011627852229.html

[warm bane]

without the wide nozzle

[clever charm]

nope

or does it?

hmmm

[warm bane]

i mean

it should (?)

[clever charm]

i feel stupid now

[warm bane]

why

[clever charm]

cause i didn't think

[warm bane]

i didnt think other manufactures had 4 pin fans

kinda stupid of me to assume

most of the bigger nozzle doesnt get used so in my mind it should work the same

[clever charm]

so it would work, but needs different mouting, and some bigger cutouts in places

[clever charm]

already got one in the cad

[warm bane]

ah ok

i mean meh

bambu fan costs almost the same

and has similar performance

[clever charm]

step is gonna be available. i think you really only need to change the mounting holes and add a wedge in the duct for it to work

[clever charm]

not sure about that

if you look at power consumption

[warm bane]

ot only takes 0.18A or something but has more rpm

[warm bane]

nvm

[clever charm]

also that's not the one i got

wonder what the power consumption is baout

[warm bane]

this is the one you send

[clever charm]

wtf did they smoke

this spec sheet makes no sense

[warm bane]

the sticker says 0.4A so 10w roughly

[clever charm]

so the sticker states 9.6W, the current in the specsheet states 5.3W and the power in specheet states 4.1W

[warm bane]

pick the one you like

[clever charm]

i mean power consumption will vary with restriction but still that's utter bullshit

[warm bane]

https://eu.store.bambulab.com/products/part-cooling-fan-a1-series

altho how would you even mount that

[clever charm]

no

[green berry]

this is worse thyan the one on sv 08

[warm bane]

loool original is also rated for 0.15A

so any of those would be better?

[warm bane]

i bet it cools ok

[queen sable]

https://www.r3men.com/collections/fans

[green berry]

I have both

the a1 is shit

it is quieter tho

[warm bane]

6€ for a fan tho

[green berry]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008819986078.html

same 6 euro just better

[warm bane]

not cc compatible

[green berry]

everything is cc compatible

sip

[warm bane]

how you make fake pwm work

[green berry]

like everyone does

lmao

[warm bane]

on pwm connection

[green berry]

we have cosmos

[clever charm]

omg.... where was this when i needed it

[clever charm]

still doesn't that need some sort of hardware mod to get it to work?

[green berry]

is the 24v fixed?

👀

then we might have a problem

[clever charm]

yep, like a real pwm fan 👀

[green berry]

altho the sovol fan iirc has the pads for pwm

[warm bane]

noway

[clever charm]

looking at the size of the hole i have my doubts

[warm bane]

maybe on the pcb

[noble mesa]

you just need to add a small mosfet module

[clever charm]

i was about to say too much effort... but if i could know how much time i've spent in fusion i should rethink my life decisions

[noble mesa]

I mean I think the bambu 5015s are the easiest option tho

[warm bane]

i think lets just wait

until your fan arrives

and if it sucks try an another bambu fan

[clever charm]

should be here by monday 🤞

in the mean time i'm gonna try to make a real cool image that superimposes a render and fluid sim just cause

[warm bane]

what you guys think about a 7530

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008488370761.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller.5.5d0fASvkASvkk5&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=8b8b76c7-ea61-422c-acfa-178359c1cdb9&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.40050.354490.0%2Cpvid%3A8b8b76c7-ea61-422c-acfa-178359c1cdb9%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"15"%2C"eval"%3A"1"%2C"sceneId"%3A"30050"%2C"fromPage"%3A"recommend"}&pdp_npi=6%40dis!EUR!19.01!15.59!!!21.87!17.94!%40211b804117764643282821342eeedc!12000045363904847!rec!DE!!ABXZ!1!0!n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A41e2d00d%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A|x_object_id%3A1005008488370761|_p_origin_prod%3A

[green berry]

love it

[warm bane]

as a partcooling fan

[green berry]

we cool glue

[warm bane]

*blows the buildplate away

[queen sable]

at this point, why not just cpap?

[green berry]

noise

[clever charm]

cost

[warm bane]

its more unique this way

[clever charm]

also trying to fit cpap under the top glass would give me self harm urges

[warm bane]

i mean

nobody has done a 2x 5015 setup on a cc right?

[queen sable]

another reason why I go to "the church of the 100mm riser"

[clever charm]

i'm still in the no riser club

i hate the concept of risers

[warm bane]

preach

[clever charm]

and if elegoo were less braindead in certain aspects that would have worked out great too

[warm bane]

die kirche im dorf lassen jetzt.

[queen sable]

I'm quite happy with the upper-frame mass damping of the 8kg sand-filled 100mm riser, as well as the headroom for flying umbilical/filament feed

[warm bane]

8kg sand holy

[queen sable]

3 printers on same table top was making for some annoying cross-talk artifacts in surface quality, so now each printer sits on 22kg concrete paver, each of which sits on HULA feet, and 8kg of top-frame mass in the riser. cross-talk is pretty much eliminated now.

[clever charm]

currenlty doing renders... no matter what i do just see amogus

it's so bad in the side view

like full backpack and everything

[queen sable]

its going to stab you

[warm bane]

amogussy

🤤

[clever charm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hammer-super-mario-8-bit-qPD4yGsrc0pdm

[warm bane]

for more information search for r34 amongus

[clever charm]

playing around with 2 tone colours is reall sick

blueish purple base colour and a tiny bit of red glow

[warm bane]

metallic paint

with flakes

could accheive that

irl

[clever charm]

omg

that logo

[green berry]

integrate into fan hole

😉

[clever charm]

i prefer the full planet idk why

[green berry]

now you got a nebula

[clever charm]

that would be a really good name

[green berry]

it is so overused

I don't like it anymore

[clever charm]

:(

[green berry]

nebula extruder

nebula pad

nebula smth I don't remember

[clever charm]

got a better idea than amogusburner?

[green berry]

I mean

you can use nebula

I won't say no

[clever charm]

i think it's the best one for now

[queen sable]

I actually like Amogusburner

[clever charm]

i'm starting to like it too

also i really can't unsee the amogus now

[queen sable]

truth in advertising

[clever charm]

just ignore what the hotend would be

that's so cursed

ok i got a dozen renders ready to bake overnight

[green berry]

amoguner

amogooner

amogoon

[clever charm]

i think this is more in r34 territory than 3d printing territory xD

at least the bruner comes from stealthburner

[warm bane]

ele-burner

or ele-griller

[clever charm]

[noble mesa]

I'm sorry I ruined it for you

[clever charm]

You should be

Finding a name is really difficult when all I can think about is amogus

Amogoo

[noble mesa]

yup, nebula extruder, nebula board which is I think annex, probably some other 3dp shit

[noble mesa]

yeah Idk I feel like I really poisioned the well as soon as I suggested that. it has a memetic quality that is hard to scrub from your brain

[clever charm]

Yep

[lofty mortar]

Hey gang is this off-topic today as well

[warm bane]

no

unless you want

[noble mesa]

all boards can be offtopic if you have enough imagination (well except the firmware dev channels, dont shitpost too hard there pls)

[clever charm]

fucking windows update ruined most of my renders that i planned on doing overnight 😒

[clever charm]

and it crashed lots of times

i'm so computer iliterate

[clever charm]

stock extruder tensionner hole

currently wathcing se3d's video on his toolhead... my blood is boiling

a heavier toolhead reduces vfa... not increases it

[warm bane]

duh

inertia is a suggestion

not a rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wxc5bVEQD4

[clever charm]

Wtf

[noble mesa]

Lol not even his worst sin

[clever charm]

yep... this motivated me enough though... im gonna make some reddit posts and be super annyoing with the amogusburner now xD

printing the first test now

[noble mesa]

Plox!

I don't like to be critical of community produced designs but the SE3E based designs need to die IMO. So many bad choices baked into that design from the thin shell to the dovetails

[clever charm]

this might be something where we diverge, imo if a mod is worse than stock it should not exist. that said the se3d cover isn't necessarily worse than stock. but not necessarily better, and the remixes of that are in great amounts a lot worse.
His v2 also chokes the fan intake which is an absolute genius move

[noble mesa]

You got a link to v2

[high sun]

SE3D? https://www.printables.com/model/1689961-se3d-elegoo-centauri-carbon-1-toolhead-cover-v20

[clever charm]

beat me to it

it's worse than v1 in terms of stiffness

istg all the weight relieveing holes just look like attempts of making a compliant mechanism

[noble mesa]

Agree I just feel bad saying it out loud but se3d with the heater stuff eliminated most of my qualms about that. Oh I think the original se3d is worse than stock actually because of theb fragile dovetails and very sensitive interference fit.

[clever charm]

🤣

i guess there was a valid reason for you making the gamma afterall

[clever charm]

btw if you want to test, i got a 3mf ready now for the toolhead

[noble mesa]

Hit me up boi

[noble mesa]

This.... Is bad

Why weaken the box with the dumb logo cutout?

Yeah not gonna be very rigid

[warm bane]

custom

[clever charm]

ok the file is heavy that's annoyin

[green berry]

Burr is that you?

[green berry]

Both

[noble mesa]

COMRADE, YOU MUST REJECT THE FALSE ORNAMENTATION OF THE BOURGEOISIE! Отвергни их!

[green berry]

That word alone made me laugh cause it is so fancy in english

Bourgeoisie

Bour geo sie

Burghezie

See much easier

Oh cause french word

[noble mesa]

COMRAD ATOM, THE CORRECT PRONUNCIATION OF THAT WORD IS TRAY-TOR

[green berry]

LONG LIVE THE PROLETARIAT

[clever charm]

ok how would a lighter toolhead decrease vfa?

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zu-soviet-poster-5xtDarsrFTIbEsRXOw0

[green berry]

How would a heavier one increase vfa?

https://tenor.com/view/work-unite-workers-gif-27069806

[clever charm]

it woudln't

[warm bane]

just use soviet steel comrade

https://giphy.com/gifs/zu-lenin-ToMjGpDuM8uyTyAYwQ8

[clever charm]

more mass more inertia less vfa amplitude

[warm bane]

wouldnt that make it worse?

without soivet steel you have it anyway

so this decussion is stupid

[clever charm]

unless you tune your toolhead to have the same frequency as the motor resonnance or belt pitch resonnance i doubt it

that's totally necessary

@noble mesa here it is with all the settings i touched. not sure that they are all gonna stay that way but that's how i'm printing it rn

[blissful vigil]

Front_cover.gif

[warm bane]

no fan

[clever charm]

it's on purpose

does this pass the vibe check?

[warm bane]

dude

can you make that as a part of design

like the flowsim

looks sick

[tropic gazelle]

looks like a dancer 😉

THAT should be on it as well as the planet logo... in multiple colours, of course 😄

[clever charm]

it is. the ducts

[tropic gazelle]

print in process;)

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/walter-white-y6Inkaz7omxAk

[clever charm]

uhm

[clever charm]

just as a caution. this is the first prototype and i don't even have the fan here to know if it fits. your risk xD

[warm bane]

testing it before the author is also crazy

[tropic gazelle]

i know. but I want to own this brilliant thing in real life...

[warm bane]

not crazy as in stupid

just interesting

[tropic gazelle]

and ... no risk, no fun 😂

[clever charm]

i'm using it to play with my fancy prusament petg. cuase i have no use for it otherwise

[warm bane]

where is the cumsip

i cant find it

:cumsip

[clever charm]

well there is no risk doing

[warm bane]

:cumsip:

only emote that work for is trollface.

[clever charm]

also there is a honse face modifier

it would be very honse of someone to use that xD

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rizz-horse-good-face-shape-u1FZcaDYnQFBMMdN5E

[tropic gazelle]

I've noticed that. It will be activated on the second print. just because I want to see it in print

[warm bane]

is petg fine for a toolhead?

[tropic gazelle]

no! it's just a testprint

[warm bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haBA3E_HPx0

[clever charm]

it could maybe survive for a couple dozen hours if you have a tz hotend. but with the stock hotend asa is already at the limit

[warm bane]

ht-pla ????

[clever charm]

istg if i ever get mod permissions here i'll time you out

[warm bane]

whyyy

it can survive 120°c

[clever charm]

yeah the same way you can survive 120c

technically your bones will be fine

[warm bane]

polymaker ht-pla even se3d recomends it

[clever charm]

i think i'm hangry

but every person that actively recommends ht-pla desevers to only print wet tpu-cf for the rest of their lives

and yes that filament exists

[warm bane]

hungry angry?

you want fromage and baugett

[clever charm]

i'd kill for some fresh baguette right about now xD
but i don't have any left :(

[warm bane]

what do you think about aldi baugett

[clever charm]

idk but probably bad

[warm bane]

you guys have carefur or something right

[clever charm]

never had a good baguette in germany

[clever charm]

that's fucked. if i want bread i go to the bakery

[warm bane]

wym you dont get those cheap kräuter bageuette

[tropic gazelle]

It’s lovely if you live in the Saarland, near the French border. The bakers come round to you on Saturdays and Sundays with fresh, authentic baguettes.

[warm bane]

ohh thats actually beautiful

[tropic gazelle]

But there are also plenty of bakeries here that bake according to the original recipe.

[clever charm]

My baguette is still warm from the oven 🫠

[tropic gazelle]

Just watching the printer print out the air vents... simply beautiful 😂 🔥

[green berry]

entire europe has carrefour

[warm bane]

germany doesnt

[green berry]

we don't talk about germany

[warm bane]

aldi might

lidl might

[warm bane]

why

germany best

fr

[green berry]

go away

[warm bane]

i love you

[green berry]

best quality ever

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pixel-pixelated-culi-yZQ9jMAwHgjFDe8A8a

[warm bane]

metro 🥱

best fr if you have a company

[tropic gazelle]

GLOBUS! Fleischkäsweck (or as Bavarian or Austrian say Leberkäs) 1€ in this size 🍻 👌

[warm bane]

globus is so underrated

[tropic gazelle]

Jup. DIY and grocery group. And very well connected.

[green berry]

@fervent mortar

[tropic gazelle]

beauty 😉

[fervent mortar]

sip

Get one for me too

[clever charm]

do you have a fan to test it?

[tropic gazelle]

I thought I had one. But I only have a 4015 🙁 I’ve already ordered some, though. They should arrive on Wednesday or Thursday.

[warm bane]

time to make a 4015 toolhead cover

[clever charm]

good idea, i recommend you use simscale for doing cfd on the ducts you are going to make

[warm bane]

no sim required

eyeball that shit

5015

iirc

[tropic gazelle]

sry ... misread it

[warm bane]

wait the names wrong

@clever charm its for a 5015 right?

[clever charm]

yesn't

maybe this toolhead cover deserves it's own thread

[tropic gazelle]

yes .... i read wrong words 😂

[warm bane]

ahhh this thread was also for your other toolhead cover?

[clever charm]

so i made a 5020 version some while ago which is the ACCTC
and now i'm currently making the Amogusburner (plese find a better name as i'm unable to 🤣 )

[warm bane]

the names perfect.

Oh wait

lizard-burner

[clever charm]

nah prefer amogusburner

cause it looks a bit like both

but it doesn't look like a lizard

yet*

https://giphy.com/gifs/lizard-tom-the-wave-9w7YtTycjeLzW8V6io

[warm bane]

the duct does

(a bit with vodka)

[tropic gazelle]

the duct is a dancer ... like the lizard tries 😄

dancing lizzard

[warm bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lizard-confidence-UsXLIXnz0djWM

peace

[tropic gazelle]

and i'm still missing carto mount 😄
but ... GREAT JOB !

[queen sable]

https://youtu.be/rcCUR2384ms?t=40

The epitome of the use of lizards to emphasize biomes in tv/film

sadly, lizard cant fly

[clever charm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/scared-attack-julietglock-e9OD8VAtSvo87A3Gec

[clever charm]

are you sure about that?

[clever charm]

that poor lizard

[clever charm]

trueeeeee... still need to look into if it even could fit anywhere

eddy was somewhat easy as it's just so small

[tropic gazelle]

It's all right. I've got an Eddy too. But I prefer Carto. I've no idea why.

[clever charm]

that's the only idea i have in mind as of now

nevermind it would stick out too much

ok with a bit of fenageling it seems to be able to just barely find a home

[warm bane]

would the back work?

[clever charm]

nope

[warm bane]

the poopchute?

[clever charm]

the red cone thingy must not contain any metal

[warm bane]

ah

[clever charm]

ok so this would just ever so slightly fit

would have a y offset of -30.85mm

[tropic gazelle]

That's how it's actually used....

[clever charm]

you can see the big H in the carriage, that's for the exclusion zone

which for the cc toolhead excludes the toolhead pcb, carriage, hotend and hotend fan

[tropic gazelle]

But it measures precisely at those two sensors... and you're miles away from the nozzle.

to the left and right of it ... are the two sensors.

[clever charm]

that's not really an issue. the bigger issue is that there can't be metal near the coil

[queen sable]

well, that lizard cant fly

[green berry]

metal should not be inside red cylinder

especially wires

[noble mesa]

no you wanna put it under the carriage

I ckecked, it will fit

other side from the daughter board

[green berry]

also yes you want it on carriage

not on shroud

[noble mesa]

and not have interference from hotend or bearing

[clever charm]

Damn does it avoid every heatset? I just assumed that it wouldnt

[noble mesa]

lol

[clever charm]

Also soooooon. Idk why it came out so bad but it should work

[noble mesa]

yeah I mean heatsets are also fine, its a bigger issue for large flat regions

heatsets are kinda too small for eddy currents to really flow well

[clever charm]

Btw there is some missing clearance around the thermistor port on the daughter board so beware

[noble mesa]

I mean did you even have part cooling since your fan was broken

[clever charm]

Yeah printed on the neptune

[noble mesa]

ah

this filament is very blue

[clever charm]

But it seems that even 8mm^3/s is too much for this filament

[noble mesa]

probably the color the girl from willy wonka would bleed

[clever charm]

https://www.prusa3d.com/fr/produit/prusament-petg-ultramarine-blue-1kg-nfc/ that's the stuff

Flash makes it a lot worse

[noble mesa]

I have to say the prusa spools are really nice

[clever charm]

May just be an issue on my end but this print was far from flawless, though their asa is

[noble mesa]

I'm doing this lamp in thier asa natural right now. its really nice. but the shipping made it like 11/kg because US even with the voucher for 3 spools. And then I got another 20 dollar import charge for tariffs that probably should not have been applied given the supreme court ruled them unconsititutional

lets see if fed ex comes after me

[clever charm]

Holy shit you got absolutely robbed. Nice lamp though

[queen sable]

Ooof.

I had UPS try to hit me with a $158 bill for 4x 42STH48-2504AHs from Steppersonline, a month after delivery, but they dropped the whole thing after I jumped thru a number of customer service hoops, with 60 days worth of occasional phone/email tag.

$120 of it was a "warehousing fee" for a small box they had possession of for less than 3 days

that IS a slick lamp.

[clever charm]

where and how did you make it fit? i struggle to find a decent spot

i'd assume that the tmc heatsink is too big and flat of a surface to not cause issues

[warm bane]

so the backside works?

that will look clean

[clever charm]

maybe like this

but this might require to remove the aux fan

[warm bane]

ouch

[clever charm]

you should anyways

[warm bane]

i mean yea true

replace it with 12030

[clever charm]

do bacons internal aux fan mod

[warm bane]

https://www.hta3d.com/en/12032-blower-fan-120x120x32-mm-24v-30-cm-wire

np

no

[clever charm]

damn i'd expected this to be more expensive

[warm bane]

i know right?

hmm

i might do it

but i have so many other projects

ugh

[clever charm]

also you need to make a duct for it to function correctly

[noble mesa]

yup that is what I was planning

[noble mesa]

FUCK THE AUX FAN

AUX FAN AINT GOT SHIT

[warm bane]

i mean copying from an another printer should workish

[clever charm]

you drunk?

i mean sure

[warm bane]

i love drunk bacon

lovely guy

[noble mesa]

I don't drink

[clever charm]

mounting is not fun... one hole lines up with the daughterboard, and the other with the intersection of front and back, tho that should be reasonably easy to fix

[noble mesa]

however I do take narcotic painkillers and have had to take my full perscribed amount because my fucking office was 30 C the past few days because my institution has the planning capacity of a toddler

heat is terrible for my arthritis

[warm bane]

but doesnt oil get less viscous in higher temps

[noble mesa]

indeed it does

holy fuck I didnt even mention this

we have a plaque in the hall outside my office, for all the students that won an organic chemistry award each year

the name plates are attached to the wood with a like sticky rubbery sheet adhesive

the name plates started falling off because it was so hot in the building

[warm bane]

you cant make this up

[clever charm]

are you in a south facing room with huge as windows? that's mental given we are just barely in spring

[warm bane]

at that point move your lab to the outside

[clever charm]

guess i gotta redo a whole lot of stuff to fit carto

[noble mesa]

actually westxsouthwest so it is mostly bad in the afternoon but yess huge windows that do not open. the problem is they never did maintence on the hvac computer so its terminally screwed up

oh my office is way worse tho

[noble mesa]

this is my office/closet, has windows but is also right next to the HVAC and heating ducts in red that go up a central pillar, so that wall gets warm, and I get the highest preassure air out of the malfunctioning hvac of anyone on our floor

[clever charm]

So if it were working you'd be freezing and since it isn't you get all the heat. Perfect!

[drifting tusk]

the yellow room doesn't even have space for a cuck chair

[clever charm]

Ahem this is absolute overkill

Translucent filament really looks super cool

[drifting tusk]

spank me harder, daddy~

[clever charm]

it's to simulate speedtests xD

other cover started making some noises at high accels so i wanted to get ahead of it

[noble mesa]

you should @ a certain person with this lol

[clever charm]

who?

[noble mesa]

see here and I thought it was just because it had been a naughty boy

[clever charm]

yeah it did me dirty

[noble mesa]

honestly there are like 5 people who make flimsy as shit toolhead covers

[clever charm]

still need to get some screws... the hotend is wobbly

[drifting tusk]

@noble mesa for example

[clever charm]

i have a video of the gamma loosing it's front cover when slapped from behind true 🤣
tho my chinesium magnets that are glued in wayy too deep might be a cause for this

[drifting tusk]

@vague adder look at this cool toolhead design!

🙃

[noble mesa]

nah, I like my toolhead cover like my women, THICC and STRONG

and also making my question my decisions in life

[drifting tusk]

what about toxic?

we can print it out of CNT-filled plastic

[noble mesa]

indeed, I have the cPTSD diagnosis to prove it! haha

[drifting tusk]

very cool

[noble mesa]

indeed, very cash money

I guess that applies to CNT filament as well stuffs pricy

[clever charm]

i didn't know that CNTs filament even exists

does it even improve much of the properties?

[drifting tusk]

a bunch of flame retardant stuff also fucks your hands, eyes and lungs

very cool

nvm, it was ESD safe materials, not flame retardant

[clever charm]

holy shit

[noble mesa]

CNTs freak me out

[clever charm]

ima stay with my micro carbon thank you

[noble mesa]

oh and polymaker apparantly adds them to filament without that being transparently stated

[clever charm]

uhm.... which ones?

[noble mesa]

quick everyone go shit on them with in the AHI vendor channel

[clever charm]

🤣

[noble mesa]

prob their conductive ones but IDK

[drifting tusk]

https://polymaker.com/product/polymax-petg-esd/

nvm, here they say

[clever charm]

that's fucking scary

[drifting tusk]

https://fiberon.polymaker.com/product/pa612-esd/
also mentions having CNT

but just like, don't print ESD safe stuff xd

[noble mesa]

I think they used to not

[drifting tusk]

just tape copper tape over your part

yeah, these didn't use to mention it

fiberlogy PETG-ESD doesn't even mention it

[clever charm]

and those fuckers don't clearly state how dangerous it is

[warm bane]

"whos your daddy"

[clever charm]

me

[warm bane]

makes my nozzle

[clever charm]

i wonder at what accel the stock hotend would just fold

[noble mesa]

there's clearly only one solution- mail polymaker HQ roadkill

/s discord if you are reading I do not endorse the above

[drifting tusk]

The OpenCentauri team does not endorse this behaviour 💀

[drifting tusk]

k

[clever charm]

or even better, send them fidgets printed out for the cnts shit

[drifting tusk]

glitter bomb but it's CNTs

[clever charm]

i think that's just bio/chemical warfare at this point

[noble mesa]

I mean hey, their filament is so safe so they shouldnt worry right?

[clever charm]

how can they worry if they don't know what it is

tho i guess that handeling it is a lot less dangerous than actually printing

[drifting tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[warm bane]

/s = serious

modsss

[noble mesa]

my prefered use for CNTs

[clever charm]

this reminds me of asbestos cigarette filters

so with carto v4 out, is the shartographer meme kinda dead?

[green berry]

sharto wut

[clever charm]

can't find the image, but it's with carto

[clever charm]

@tropic gazelle that was fucking painful

this is such a weirdly shaped part

[green berry]

I am gonna say smth not nice

👀

[clever charm]

go ahead

[green berry]

carto requieres even more mcu timer

so with carto 200% you won't be able to print

[clever charm]

YOU COULD HAVE SAID THAT BEFORE

[green berry]

you didn't asked

[clever charm]

well not my problem

boardswap that biatch

[green berry]

you are gonna need to swap mainboard and/or toolboard

which is why I am waiting for OC board first

[clever charm]

i'm not gonna do anything. glhf for harrym

[green berry]

yeah waiting for trsync 50ms

but yes carto has even worse trsync requirements

[clever charm]

@tropic gazelle that's the file without any of the modifiers in place

min requirement is to set one of the ducts to negative part

[blissful vigil]

ACCTC_5015.gif

[clever charm]

and set the hull line modifier to have 0 top surfaces

ok fr now

[blissful vigil]

ACCTC_5015.gif

[warm bane]

He's already running a btt Eddy tho so shouldn't be too different right ?

[clever charm]

my printer is sus

[green berry]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-laugh-four-gif-7446278225827837893

This is gonna be fun

[warm bane]

Another reason why cartho is shite

Literally the only products besides mcus that btt can make

[green berry]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-get-tf-outta-here-lion-king-simba-throw-gif-17502134

you carto hater

carto is love carto is life

[warm bane]

:kicking cartho gif

[clever charm]

well until v4 i'd agree that carto is trash

but with v4 i don't see any downside

[noble mesa]

carto is better than eddy

[warm bane]

No

Eddy ng fixes it

Eddy > sharto

[noble mesa]

you do know contact probing was implemented on beacon first, then carto, then eddy?

[clever charm]

carto v4 > eddy > carto v3

[noble mesa]

like for a long ass time

[clever charm]

please use eddy in a 70c chamber and report back

[warm bane]

Idc

Eddy cheap

[noble mesa]

honestly carto v3 might even be better than eddy

[warm bane]

15€

[noble mesa]

and difficult to mount on CC

and with worse tempco

[warm bane]

Cc is a piece of shit

I'm talking about my other printer

[noble mesa]

more difficult to mount in general unless your toolheads name is stealthburner. and if its name is stealthburner then git gud

[warm bane]

I will never mount an other sensing system not worth it

[clever charm]

oh i've mad a mount for it, i forgot who i stole that idea from though

[warm bane]

Same as bl touch more less meu

Meh

[noble mesa]

yes, bltouch is ass to mount

[warm bane]

Literally can be mounted to everything

[noble mesa]

low profiles probes are nice, go right under carriage, very rigid

[warm bane]

Other than cc

[noble mesa]

yes, untill you need to start worrying about probe ofset and colliding with ab joints

[warm bane]

Cc doesn't even count as a printer

[warm bane]

🥱

*buys other eddy

Buys 2 even

[clever charm]

buy once cry once

[noble mesa]

I mean what else would I expect from a w124 fan

[clever charm]

this is why i don't have any eddycurrent probe cause the touch probe works just fine

if it works don't touch it

[noble mesa]

all I see

[warm bane]

Ok gramps

Back to your bed now

[noble mesa]

oh you talking to me? I thought you were talking to the vehicle that hasnt gotten an update in 30 years

[warm bane]

Woah I guess manufacturers making new cars is a new concept

Fuck you.

[clever charm]

bruh just get a carto

or just get nothing since you don't actually need it

[warm bane]

Never.

Too late

https://youtube.com/shorts/uQ_yhwqKvmQ "would you use a carto?"

[green berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332732662107869308/1490375433621999799/carto.webp

[green berry]

you monsters

[noble mesa]

wasnt me I believe this was yamzi

[tropic gazelle]

👍 It looks good. But it’s only for the V4 version at the moment. I still have the V3 with the extra circuit board.

[tropic gazelle]

But: The V4 is better anyway. So I’ll keep the V3 on my Neptune and buy a V4 version for the CC. The distance from the nozzle is good, in any case.

[clever charm]

Uhhhh did you print it one solid piece?

[tropic gazelle]

jup ... just took the file and print it.

[clever charm]

Welp i don't think that you're gonna be able to mount it without the help of a saw

[tropic gazelle]

Just for a test. I was too lazy to print out just the component7. 😄

i didn't mount it. just messured the nozzle distance from known points 😉

[tropic gazelle]

and there are people who just give it a go and it works 😂 🍻 I want to give it a go anyway.

[tropic gazelle]

Right then... The Carto V4 is due to arrive on Wednesday and the 5015 Blower on 27 April.
I’ll go and print the cover in PET-CF now so I’m ready. 😂

[green berry]

I said on cc

cc is a piece of shit

I got timer too close even on sv08 with carto cause another piece of shit

but a bit better

[tropic gazelle]

I'm an old grumpy man. I just want it 😂 🍻

[clever charm]

please print it in something else first
you shouldn't trust this without any prior testing xD

also i might be wrong but i think you're better of printing it in asa or paht-cf than pet-cf

pet-cf is just dense as fuck

ok it's way less than i had in mind.. sirya tech states 1.3 and i had over 1.5 in mind

that's still a hefty weight increase

[tropic gazelle]

ok ... with petg is just printing. i'll will wait for all parts and then i'll do a test 🙂

[alpine quartz]

is there a version compatible with cpap

[high sun]

Not bad, guess I didn't pay attention to the modifiers though. Lizard man, this thing feels damn sturdy

[clever charm]

do you have a 5015 fan laying around by chance?

[high sun]

I was sure I did (and probably still do somewhere) but it's now only about 45% of a 5015 fan (massacred for stealhburner)

[clever charm]

can't you put the front cover back on?

[alpine quartz]

ya need testers? i have 5015 fans

[clever charm]

widemouth 👀 ?

[high sun]

That's long gone

[alpine quartz]

yep

[clever charm]

i'd love to have a test. planning to release it tomorrow if everything goes well, a cooling shurican compared to stock would be extremely cash money of you

[alpine quartz]

ahh im too busy to do anything for the next 3 days. ill give it a shot once it releases then

[high sun]

I did order a bambu 5015 like last week, so worst case that should arrive soon

These have the wrong connector but, are they wide mouth?

because that's the 5015 I'll have somewhere, if I still have one

[dawn barn]

Where can I grab this file? Is a new fan required?

[clever charm]

there is a new one with some slight tweaks, i should uploade it

[clever charm]

yes bambulab 5015

[noble mesa]

this is not wide mouth

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807828935731.html

[dawn barn]

Where are you going to upload too?

[clever charm]

gonna try to be smart about it and do nexprint printables and makerworld. but mainly printables

[clever charm]

gonna ask chatgpt to give it less brainrot name though

[high sun]

Novaburner?

[clever charm]

hmmm if possible i'd not associate with stealthburner (i hate this thing)

what about proxima

[green berry]

centauri

[clever charm]

thank you for your valid contribution. to redeem your prize please pee in the wind while screaming chube

[green berry]

I give it 3/5 for the first layer

also yes plate is crooked

we still printing

[green berry]

done

where my prize

[clever charm]

sorry should've added that it needs high definition video proof

Performance / Speed focused

Centauri SwiftShell
HyperLite 5015
AccelCore Cover
FeatherDrive
Velocity Shroud
Inertia Zero

Cooling / CFD inspired

AeroFlux
CFD-X Shell
VortexLite
Laminar One
Airforge 5015
ThermaFlow Core

Space / Centauri themed

Centauri Halo
Orbital Shroud
Perihelion
NovaShell
AstraFlow
CosmoLite

Strength + stiffness emphasis

RigidX Lite
StiffCore
FlexGuard Zero
CarbonLock Shell
TorqueShield

Sleek / brandable names

Kestrel
Nyx
VantaFlow
Oris
Zephyra
LumaCore
``` wow that's a big list of suck

[high sun]

Proxima Flow?

[clever charm]

that's better than what gippity gave me for now

[green berry]

proxima

nice

like it

[clever charm]

yeah might go with Proxima

also kinda makes sense since the fan and com is closer

meanwhile gippity making a snoozefest

Toolhead Cover
Extruder Cover
Toolhead Housing
Extruder Housing
Toolhead Shell
Extruder Shell
Toolhead Case
Extruder Case

i'm sorry, it is clearly the real engineer here

[clever charm]

oh i set them up before, you can see the gap in the top wall where the fan sits

[high sun]

wym?

[clever charm]

The top surface is detached from the wall, so the modifier did work

[high sun]

Ah okay, I assumed the logo modifier was enabled by default. Is that not the case?

[clever charm]

oh as for the logo modifier i don't know. i guess it would change the filament colour if there are several selected. the important modifier is this one

[high sun]

Ah, I did remove the second filament colour from the imported project - so that makes sense

[clever charm]

i hate writing documentation

[celest vector]

perfect for printing ASA

[clever charm]

OK receiving my fan today. If everything goes well I'll publish tonight

[high sun]

Mine should arrive too 🤞

[novel spruce]

And if everything goes bad?

[clever charm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/animation-dive-sean-S8xT2p6Vcsr8ExQans

[high sun]

Yeet

[clever charm]

ouhhhh could i hire you to do some tests?

[high sun]

I could try

[high sun]

this fan... does not have the right connector 🙂

Okay damn. I should have paid more attention, but, the Bambu fan has the same connector as the fan port on the toolhead board, but not the same as the little extension the Elegoo stock fan uses. The Bambu fan is just a tad short to reach directly to the toolhead port as well 🙁

Also, this might just be a me problem since no one else has mentioned it, but the toolhead doesn't seem to quite fit right around the bottom left mounting point (as you look at the toolhead from the front)

[clever charm]

yeah this is a thing i fixed since then. i took a small cutter to it, it's hitting the thermistor port

[tropic gazelle]

You can lift the springs, pull out the pins and use them in the original connector. It should work.

[high sun]

What is the original connector?

[tropic gazelle]

Well, the one from the original 5020

[high sun]

Yeah sorry, I mean what type of connector is it? I've got tons around

[tropic gazelle]

I can't tell you off the top of my head 🙁 Unfortunately, I'm not at home to watch it.

[high sun]

Oh my god, wtf is wrong with me. Why the fuck did I open this upside down 🙃

[drifting tusk]

🎉

[tropic gazelle]

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005011814851537.html 😄

[high sun]

Aight, that should do it. I'll wait for the updated model with the clearance for the thermistor port 🙂

[blissful vigil]

Proxima.gif

[clever charm]

fan's on the way, gonna test the fit of the cutout rq and then it's go time

leg

[novel spruce]

Put a lizard slapping the cosmos logo on the front of it

[clever charm]

the delivery company really doesn't want me to publish this... it should have been delivered wednesday... a week ago

[novel spruce]

the goverment is afraid of you

[noble mesa]

god is punishing you for your sins

probably the sin of being british. your cuisine has inflicted enough harm on mankind already!

[clever charm]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-mcdo-gif-26175147

Sure it may be disgusting but at least it's not actively killing people. That said after some English dishes it would be not too bad

[noble mesa]

just a legion was subservient to lucifer, America to is merely a result of Britain's original sin.

also at least we don't have a traditional christmas desert called "spotted dick".

[queen sable]

my girlfriend said that that name gives the mental picture of a dick so old that it has liver spots

[tranquil forge]

it seems we have new logo for the cover, please @clever charm add the modifier

[clever charm]

Might add it in later but don't have the time right now

[clever charm]

today might finally be the day

[clever charm]

was about to ask if the pinout is the same, but you cable has entirely different colours

[high sun]

Okay so I snipped the existing cable on the fan to extend it so it would reach straight to the port on the toolhead board. I couldn't be arsed finding matching coloured wires but I made sure to keep the wires in the same order as the original housing. I didn't actually check if these were the same pinout as the stock fan tbf.

However, I also somehow completely missed the fact that the Elegoo fan extension is just male to female JST-ZH on both ends. I honestly thought the toolhead board end was the same as the Bambu fan (JST ZX) when it's just not. So the longer fan cable literally was unnecessary and didn't solve the issue 🤡

[clever charm]

also be careful the pinout is not the same

[high sun]

So I just bought some ZH connectors and will swap the connector on the unnecessarily mutilated fan wires

Do we have the pinout of the stock?

[clever charm]

Stock left 5015 right

[clever charm]

Also not sure that the toolhead board has the same pinout... That would be the most important to know

[clever charm]

OK now to not mess this up in my head

[high sun]

Holee that poor stock fan

What did you do to it 😭

[clever charm]

So I might have cooked a resistor by using it too much at high temps. Also had the cables crack and hastily soldered them back
Then once it broke again I tried taking it apart carefully and well uh that didn't go so well

And I scratched a bit to have better visibility of the silk screen

[high sun]

How high temps are we talking? 👀

[clever charm]

70c chamber with fan at 100% for extended periods of time

[high sun]

Yeesh

[high sun]

Do I win any leniency for not being English at least? 🥺

[clever charm]

@green berry

[high sun]

Thirsty printer?

[clever charm]

Doing a quick boat and then it's time to release

[clever charm]

Yep it's warm here

25c

I think there still is work required... Though I've never printed something so hard to cool, 280c pla at 40mm^3/s

5m09

I think this is a horrible test....
The overhang at the front looks the same as vertical surfaced

I think I need to revisit the duct geometry

seems like it's cooling too far down

at least now i can test rapidly

so release is gonna be delayed at least until friday

might get to it today, but got a shitton of stuff to do first

fucking fan could have just arrived earlier

[green berry]

I impressed, altho I am scared if that's a little too low

can u put the nozzle just touching the water?

🤔

[clever charm]

it 100% is. with my finger i can feel it get stronger a few mm down

[green berry]

yeah lift it a bit then

[clever charm]

and i think the benchy attests this

[clever charm]

at least it's quite a good indication, with inadequate cooling there still was no warping whatsoever on large sections

can't wait to see this thing at it's full potential

[drifting tusk]

this toolhead feels fucking indestructible printed in PETG

[tropic gazelle]

I've just noticed that...

[clever charm]

looks cool hehe

[green berry]

platonic love

[high sun]

Every time I crimp JSTs, I swear I'll never do it again

[clever charm]

oh my wtf

[clever charm]

the 5015 might fit in there, just with terrible cooling performance

[high sun]

I was just testing I had the pins right and the crimps solid

I await your updated model ❤️

[clever charm]

Latest duct printing noe

And also have some inlet diameter test rings

[tropic gazelle]

😂 🍻

[green berry]

at leat put some tape on that

[high sun]

no just don't look at it

[green berry]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-vaynerchuk-gary-vee-gary-egonauts-egonaut-gif-17312283998509332251

[high sun]

Happy?

[green berry]

no

the tape color doesn't match

[high sun]

[green berry]

[clever charm]

had some cosmic issues so i factory reset it

[fading kelp]

Love that the whole fan assembly is just missing 🤣

[clever charm]

ah the aux fan? yeah that useless stuff has no right to be there xD

[fading kelp]

Only ABS/ASA in this houshold

[clever charm]

not even, but it's just annoying

[warm bane]

guysssss

[dawn barn]

Have you uploaded this? Can you share the file/link?

[warm bane]

i have the pleasure of owning abs now

im so happy

[clever charm]

Not yet, it's not ready. Need to reprint the latest version to test

[warm bane]

what you changed baby

[clever charm]

the duct

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466083137967755356/1496495812728066189/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_e3b77337-13ab-4729-89fa-2f8f03eccb49.jpg?ex=69ea17d5&is=69e8c655&hm=1dcb7b61e7e7e8a02ac8762b51cb3b305d7734307fad98b364dc55f5d84e06ab& this is not what i'd call good cooling

[warm bane]

ill change you duct alright

[warm bane]

holyyy

[clever charm]

but the fact that it has overall the shape really good is promising

[clever charm]

also this was 5min20 so no slowing down for cooling whatosever

and since the overhangs are as undecooled as the straight walls there is another issue

[tropic gazelle]

If you order some 5015 fans and then realise they’ve flown off during the flight... 😄

According to Flightradar24, however, the delivery is currently on its way from Budapest to Munich. So I should receive the parcel by Saturday at the latest.

[clever charm]

Hey can someone show power usage at 250c over 1min with fan off and on?

I get about 55% and and 75% on

[tropic gazelle]

????

[clever charm]

It's normal for part cooling to cool the nozzle a bit, but I want to know if it's too much

[tropic gazelle]

just starting the cc1

OK. So set the nozzle to 250° and then switch on the component fan? Is that what you want to see?

[clever charm]

Set it at 250 with the power view enabled, wait a min and then repeat with cooling on

[tropic gazelle]

stay tuned 😄

[green berry]

I would try 200C

250C is already on edge of power limit on CC

300C measures 280C

[clever charm]

Oh shit yeah... And I have different thermistor and heater

This is meaningless

[tropic gazelle]

me to

[green berry]

I am also meaningless

[clever charm]

What do you have?

[tropic gazelle]

tz4.0 and 80W

[clever charm]

Oh my I want

Well not that much actually

What I really want is dragon

[green berry]

again measuring what you do rn is meaningless

for 3 reasons

1 is alcohol

2 is pid

3 is power limit on cc

pid is usually done without fan cause it won't interfere that much

that's how pid works

where you wanna pid with fan on is MPC

[clever charm]

Tried doing mpc on a chamber heater. Did not work in the slightest

[tropic gazelle]

ok ...

[green berry]

MPC is very linked to settings

if u fuck up it will fuck you up

[tropic gazelle]

and now ... i'll do a g28.

[clever charm]

Looks like intake size of the stock fan is already good

[tropic gazelle]

delta about 1°C

[clever charm]

Yeah but what about power?

Leistung

[clever charm]

You can see that directly in mainsail

But as atom already alluded to its meaningless

[clever charm]

We would need the same thermistor and heater for this to mean much of anything

[clever charm]

In the thermal view

[tropic gazelle]

I'm switching to Mainsail

[clever charm]

Fluidd has the same

[green berry]

don't tell me you measure pushing force of fans

[clever charm]

I am but not the way you think I am

[green berry]

put glass of water on top

?

👀

[clever charm]

And do I measure how deep it goes or what

[green berry]

I was asking

cause you can do that

altho use a tall glass

to limit air hitting scale

[tropic gazelle]

What more could you want? Nothing’s changing for me. Barely 1°C. Although that’s with your ‘5020’.

[clever charm]

Ah, the scale is just to measure down force with different inlet diameters, since the duct has the same geometry it somewhat correlates

[clever charm]

Ohhhhhh

[green berry]

500g=5N