#42.13.2 Hotfix Released
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need to find Woodcraft man in LV now that I know of his existence, and his studio
topless even in undeath
Jackie something, yeah
I like how this means the lore is that Nolan went down protecting what always end up being like a crappy beat up station wagon
and Woodcraft host man died topless still in his studio...man really loved his bed and bar corners
working a guide to nailing till the very end
no wonder all the nails are gone from the continent
30 more minutes until hope for a patch drops in half
And then 7hours until hope drops to zero
Just spare yourself
Hope died the moment you expected something
Yet still we must stand between the patch and oblivion
Never
Hope is halved but still hopeful
In fridoid we believe
Keep halving hope, it'll never run out, but there's probably a threshold how much hope you need to mentally be able to expect anything
yay , death hope
for a second I saw a ping
One thing that's been increasingly... Bugging me? Is...
We're a bit limited in our ability to actually construct stuff. Like... If you want to build short bookshelves, the best one is the beige thing, but tall bookshelves use a proper wooden model.
Could be cool if you could cycle through a few different styles with furniture crafting at any rate
Same with fences and such too tbh. We can totally manage a picket fence
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no
go figure if AI slop review is even right
Im aware of the suggestion forum, arguably posted too much there lmao
Good ol 41.77.4
there is never too much!
There is no hope, abandon your folly and join the no expectations club, just vibing until something happens
Just cba to go there this moment
whats cba mean
can't be arsed
cant be arsed/asked
confetti balll apples
Or
COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS
lol
chili beans amalgam
im gonna go with that cant be cost benefit analysis , gosh
Weirdly still accurate to the intent
CBA: Yes
CBA: No
New corporate slang for "we thoroughly considered your application and unfortunately we don't believe you're a good fit for this position"
AI used credibility removed
ai use is the standard for normies now tbh
Sad enough
How did they "slaughter" it exactly?
Bro verifying the info takes 1 minute no matter how bad the search engine is
Besides, he's already on fucking google
As a google user that doesnt use the ai, I disagree.
There are tricks i have to make it faster but you shouldnt need that to get efficiency we had 5 years ago
So you mean to tell me that searching for the release date of those 3 updates takes more than 1 minute? Buddy thats called a skill issue
Besides, if it's that bad just use a different search engine lmfao. They are not holding your family hostage or anything
I mean Google search results had been getting worse for years before the shitty AI overview showed up
This is coming from someone who knows how to use a search engine
Worse and unusable are two entirely different things
If youre a normie you just use the ai
And again just use a different search engine
Yes, idt anyone is saying it's unusable
me googling drug interactions and ai telling me im gonna die
If you are fine with BS and misinfortmation sure
"just do x y and z" is the moment you lose normies entirely
I do use other search engines, doesn't mean you can't call it for what it is
Heck, might aswell ask the AI instead of your doctor
shrug
I tried to tell people the same
Doesn't make em stop and at this rate ill be wrong eventually
Will smith wasnt able to eat spaghetti 4 years ago
we pointed and laughed
Now he can
it was for a antiacid lol usually that drug interaction website pops up but ai intervened and yes i asked my doctor after becuase it was so dumb of a response
Sure, but thats not what this is about
Can only hope the AI bubble bursts before it gets too much further
What is it about
That using AI removes all credibility and that you should verify that shit
I agree. I was talking about Google being shitty anyway
Yeah it is
The AI Bullshitview is a new low tho
I fucking hate all this AI bullshit

Yeah, I added a rule to just remove it on the desktop (I specify desktop bc also use mobile) but then they added it to the โrelated searchesโ and I said fuck Google
part of the problem is that all the search results are ai articles now too
w... what?
Certainly muddies the waters, yeah
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about ๐
You havent noticed??? Lmao
I mean the internet is being flooded with AI stuff, not just images
There are SOME yes, but far from all
Hyperbole
All those randon websites with bullet pointed essays are not real
think they mean just the fact there are some in there
Acting like it's the fucking doomsday is a tad of an overreaction
It's just hyperbole
Then they should... hmmm idk say that
And yes hyperbole lol
Even as a hyperbole it's an overreaction, I have never even wondered if an article is AI yet
I certainly have
The big sites have been caught using ai too
I assume it's a function of what spaces you're in. I'm a software developer so I'm probably more likely to see AI articles about relevant topics (which I am not very happy about)
Dang, guess I gotta catch up with that shit
We have lawyers pulling that shit in court
At least they are not ai... right guys
They cited nonexistent precedent among other things
Like basically took their cases out back and shot them with AI
Makes you wonder what the bar exam is even there for atp
Man, what a time to be alive
but honestly ai is fine when you just run it locally
Feeding these bloated parasites feeding on our data does nothing for us
Sure, it's not all bad. Just that the bad part is shoved down your throat
Depends on what you used it for IMO, doesn't need to be bad
For the compute cost
Yeah okay thats true
ai brainrot feeds shortform content farms that are eroding our mental faculties
Somehow even more immediately than cognitive offloading has from LLMs
Ya think I cared about accuracy of the info instead of trying to kick Sully down
You need the one for the other
Otherwise it's just like choosing the wrong dialogue option and beeing met with confusment
Sully reacted to it as if it was accurate ergo mission accomplished
I always thought this would be cool if you could 'learn' how to make tiles by encountering them in the world an having sufficient skill levels, similar to whats done for items now. So like, if I am a level 2 carpentry and I find that tile for a wood bordered garden plot, I can examine it and 'learn' it just like we can with items. Same with different kinds of bookshelves, metal, things, etc (assuming you have the skill to actually understand how to do it). Bloat would be managed naturally through choice, as people don't HAVE to learn any addiitonal tiles or furniture but could have as many as they want. And it would encourage going out and finding cool stuff.
i want more decorations and building stuffs
I mean i think a submenu for tile selection likr tje tile brush has is fine
Yeah I really want to make a white picket fence and wood borded garden plots
I sue the brush right now haha
yah our animals need the bestest pretty places hahah
@west terrace ^
where ratters
And all those ferns and bushes we cant move
I like cats
Hell let me bring cool rocks home too
hahah yeah rocks!!!
i hope we get orchards laters or something, i know planting a fruit tree would take wayy to long , but frui ttree!!
Yeah it would be cool - might be more realistic in the beggining to just have orchards in teh game
lol, i have window sills of rocks and i have a rock on my desk right now
pre-existing that slowly rewild or w/e and you'd have to tend them or make your own
yeah i just thought about that after i sent it, though arent a lot of fruit trees seasonal ? dunno how that would be done then lol
Yeah! Just like very long term growth periods. Apple trees (at least in canada) fruit like very 2 years
dangit
Apple trees just need to vernalize
Speaking of tho how tf are orange trees chilling in ky
They can handle a chill but not these horrible winters zomboid cooks up lmao
the random foraged mango always makes me giggle
I mean same but at least shove em in greenhouses or smth
You should add some of them into Project Zomboid, to let players know just how prevalent those mail ads you get in the mailbox really are back then.
or avocado hahaha
Industrial greenhouses would go hard
Sorry, all I see are magnifying glass houses.
whats meade county

325 square miles (840 km2) and 30K-ish people
So fairly unpopulated
How big would a sheriffs office be for that kind of place?
the entire town would be a sheriffs office surely
the size of a two HEBs!!
The sheriff's office would be in the county seat (Brandeburg) and would likely be 8-12 deputies, plus 4-6 civilian support staff.
Thanks for the actual info lol and thanks for the silly info guys
There would also be a jail, which would be under the control of the sheriff's office, and it might have 4-6 jail staff (who would not necessarily be deputies)
Brandenburg itself would probably be too smal (3K-ish) to have a police force.
LOL, no. Maybe two Dollar General stores.
at least half an ikea
It wont even need its own zip code that way
Also, Muldraugh is HALF as big as Brandenburg
I just want a ridiculously, outrageously large building that you end up lost in for days
might work now when you dont get giga bored because of a roof above you vs build 41
LV mall was annoying to live in with boredom indoors
The closest you might get would be a Tractor Supply
never seen a book in ikea, unless its been a prop in a model room
Brandenburg to Louisville is about 40 miles (by car; closer by air) so any sort of Ikea is going to be in Louisville.
so we getting the update next monday?
I astral projected 12 zaxons into the future and have confirmed that it should be released no later than 3.5 quazons from now
Of course, the quantum shockwaves from my stating this fact may have changed the forecast slightly.
Guys, just finished Hannibal series and thought of something
Doctor occupation should have a level or two in butchering
Just because it makes sense
imo, occupations all need unique bonuses a la ax-pert
i think doctors getting amped crits with all weapons would make sense
With Short blades specifically
i get that they have the points in short blade but you know all the spots the body needs to do body things
brainstorming traits for occupations would be a fun group project 
When they add throwables, baseball players should be able to bat balls at zombies lol
or just throwing good
even 50% better range or something really high would probably be reasonable
@heady quarry What time tommorrow is horse mod time??
guys, i think you might need hobbies
brainstorming is fun
9am UTC ๐ so in about 10 hours
braindroughting is boring
Giddy up!
Or if you prefer the medieval vibes, Nik just dropped a maaaassive medieval armor and weapons mod
What really
Whats it called?
Haha this is great. I've always thought it would be cool to have a museum somewhere where you could grab some of this. The LV museum of history or something haha
Oh I spied the knight on the horse
It's incredibly detailed, every single part of the armor is It's own piece with an equipment slot
want horse
No
Yes
are light bulbs vanishing a bug or is this a "bulbs burn out" kind of mechanic?
keep coming back to my base and there's randomly missing bulbs ๐ค
Yeah if you are around when it happens you will hear them break haha
I've been having lamps go out and being entirely unable to interact with them or replace the bulb at all
i havent had an issue with replacing the bulbs, i just missed the breaking noise so i wasnt sure if it was supposed to be happening or not
might be a good upgrade for electrician profession to be able to extend bulb lifetime somehow
YES
GOD
that being said: kinda comical
you know how to screw lightbulbs in better ๐
lol maybe it could unlock a second kind of bulb, people without X level of elec just see them all as bulbs but you would know its a "high efficiency bulb" or whatever
realtalk like
glassmaking is RIGHT THERE
not like they had LEDs in 93 and fluorescent wouldnt be in like, household bulb size afaik
the bulbs we make might be a bit hungrier but i bet we could do it
in 93 the technology was there afaik but i dont know when exactly the screw in fluorescents gained popularity
and yeah LEDs were a big thing in like uhh
mid 90s at least
if it was just a couple years later... lol
apparently CFLs were first made in the late 70s
with limited prominence in the mid 80s from what i can tell
poor performing, large, expensive
i assume the lifespan was still fine though
It started when people were spamming the Delay The Update gif, so I threatened to post desserts... and then they did it more so I started posting them, and then people enjoyed seeing them ๐คทโโ๏ธ

Horse is out, for anyone that was interested
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3661336777
can you butcher it?
Of course! You'll get some tasty horse steaks and loins, as well as leather to make gear with, and hooves that you can boil to make glue
is the horse invulnerable to other players or this a Sp mod only ? ( should have read the mod description ๐ )
It can be killed by any damage source that hurts vanilla animals, so hitting it, shooting it, setting it on fire, or running it over with a car can hurt/kill it.
Right now everything works in MP except riding (top prio for us), so you can start gathering some horses on your server to prep for riding being introduced. You can also put saddle bags on them and use as pack animals for now
so it doesn't have a claim feature like cars have to protect it against unwanted use ? either way super dope mod ! great effort
At the moment no, but we're gonna be expanding and adding to it as we gather feedback
does higher animal handling skill affect horses in any way and can you level it up riding or petting them? do zombies scare them?
Imagine riding the horse and it gets scared. So you're just on it while it barrels through fences.
lol I meant when nobody is riding it, but that would be hilarious
what kind of noise levels can we expect from horses? i assume at the very least theyre going to be significantly quieter than cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPwr3REqr5g this definitely is a welcome video lol
The horse mod is out already:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3661336777
This is one of my greatest dreams coming true. PZ with horses. I can cosplay as Rick all I want now.
https://www.twitch.tv/retanaru
https://ko-fi.com/retanaru
Song:
Lost - Project Zomboid
Cant wait to see comments say " why not official yet"
Have already seen some
Lmao
Do they not realize that yall needed to add animals as a base
Really just ungrateful sometimes
This is what they had before
No, they very much don't understand that. There are people who legitimately think we should support every mod, and if an update breaks a mod it's because we suck at coding
I think the general audience might be dumb as rocks
The mod thing is interesting... a LOT of people don't understand even the basics... like new version means you need to update the mod... My wife thinks this community is so bad about it because of the workshop integration being so simple
IKEA be like
thanks to horse mod we can survive far easier until/if horseys are in the base game
leaning towards "until" because nu-medieval gameplay requires transportation beyond cars
also the said mod is very much spot on how I imagined horses in PZ, so great job
Now where's the archery mod mmmm?
is that when your player turns into a puddle ? lol
Its da horse lol
I thknk
Yeah when modding was a bit more involved there was less stupid lol
wtf is that face
Clown puppets
the life is a joke face lol
Puppers*
we need more face paints!! oer makeups
Pupper's face
Iโve found some cool masks for sure
fax
Yes, I do see lots of foundation makeups in bathroom drawers.
Lmao yeah, it happens when there's no animation data for the bones, so it just collapses on the root bone.
The reason it happens with the horse is because there's a vanilla bug with how the load order for custom animation meshes is set up, they only load on game start, not when starting a new save. So you have to enable the mod in the main menu and restart, so that it finds and loads the animations properly
yah i always grab a couple , im glad they have conditions now , so now i can collects
lmao, amazing minature pocket sized horse
or horse patty
Wait until they maybe one day add a meat grinder, then we can turn the horses back into real meatballs
Horse steaks and loins aren't good enough for you? ๐ญ
does the horse mod have carts or trailers to pull?
Ps real question can you also make glue from cow hooves in real life? Or are horse hooves special
you can
hmm
Not yet no, but we have some theories on how to make it work. We're gonna try to recruit some vehicle modder to help us out ๐
horse limo!!
well you (plural) already clearly made a damn good job, i've been yearning for this nu-medieval style of PZ. I can wait a lenghty time to see what comes later
Thank you! We're definitely gonna keep expanding on it!
Did you see the medieval armor mod that came out yesterday? It's really fucking good and pairs perfectly with the horse
I did not, but thanks to Bethesda I'm averse to any mention of "horse armor"
oh wait, you mean human-worn armor haha
Yeah ๐ But Nik who made the human armor is already working on horse armor to go with it ๐
going to sell it for $2.50?
once PrivateLime learns of this, we shall see the rise of Ser Gruggory, knight of the apocalypse...
need gold butter amor
Per piece, and it's 50 pieces
Do it, the world of MTX needs another cataclysm, just take the leap and bring darkness to this forsaken world
If we do that Mr. John Stone himself would come down from their office and ban us personally
@teal flare Update monday?
Definelly yes unless it doenst
But all signs points to yes
No saturdoid nor sundoid though, the devs deserve a break
In mondoid we trust
Abandon all hope, ye expectant ones, for there shall only be nondoids ahead
And are those signs in the room with us
Oh yeah theyre all around
Delay all updates and bunch them up with stable release
nuclear fusion in this septic tank channel can be achieved if we bottle up collective expectations and frustration
Update is today confirmed by me
Like this: 
Towing but you're sitting in the towed vehicle 'driving' the towing vehicle.
Horse carts.
Actually.
Horse chariot(s).
Anyone else have an issue with animal carcasses not leaving the inventory in MP?
You'd think this patch would fix the bug of where clothing patches disappear but are still on there but nope they havent...
That is probably the least important bug of the B42 MP lol
Chocolate peanut butter with banana ice cream
a lot softer than I wanted it, due to leaving out longer because I got distracted but still so tasty
during the winter if you have a single hole or more youll get hit with a cold its not fun
yummers
has anyone else seen this horse mod? it looks pretty sick ngl
yeeee it looks amazing, they put so much work into it! I haven't had a chance to try it out yet
Still waiting for someone to start recreating Rick Grimes S1 scenes in PZ
horse.
Did they fixed fireplace? huh its been buggy for me a year, one of the most toxic bugs for me
which is the bug u have with it? i never had any problem
There is an Atlanta map I'm pretty sure 
The horse mod is so fun! Also, I cannot imagine how difficult the animation was for the legs lol
clearly horse mod is a psyop planted by TIS to wipe any expectations of a bigger patch as a distraction
I'm onto you!!
I'm glad you like it! And Jesus christ yeah, horse legs shouldn't work like they do, but they are, like wtf man
Lucky we had sewerrabbit who's a certified horse girl and could send a bunch of good references to me
Someone was showing a mod on reddit that had not only melee ragdolls, but zombies knocking eachother over. Would be so cool to combine that with horses and when you charge through a horde thats manageable they all jsut ragdoll away haha
The only thing that makes me doubt this is that everyone is going to want to play with horses mod on and start reporting bugs that arent in in vanilla ๐
surely a horse mod doesn't suddenly make a zombie behave irrationally and cause trees to begin walking
we already get flooded with reports from modded playthroughs... don't think this will move the needle
wink wink
Lmao the vanilla ents are behaving oddly!
Yeah I am just being facetious
Whoever set the spawn locations did a great job! I was delighted to see the riverside horse racing place had like 9 horses
horse spawns in vanilla confirmed
.....
well they ARE coming at one point in distant future ๐
gasoline locomotion domination must be ended
gasoline powered horses...
motorcycles confirmed
Spiders and insects when?
Cant wait to die cause i got bit by a spider that i didnt see
gasoline powered horses will work for a minute, at least, then it becomes an animal abuse case
.....fair
never saw this MSPaint drawing
good enough for next generation of patch seers
We need @teal flare this is beyond my ken
reminds me of Minecraft breaking block fractures
this clearly relates to TIS hire from old Minecraft
watch there be a way to unobfuscate this and I just leaked
ChatGPT combined them
Its clearly a cheese platter
I honestly can't tell if I am more excited for whatever this is, or just to see your actual MSPaint drawing to see how accurate it was to whatever this is
I am surprised just how distorted it gets lol
I cant wait for it to be like cheesemaking and your drawing is just...
glorious
Looks like a boat
Wait cheese making sounds awesome
is real anvil audio for blacksmithing instead of the carpentry audio somewhere on the menu ๐ ?
My guess for what this update includes is either a) some expanded crafting stuff that uses timed systems now that the drying rack works in MP (i.e. brewing, pickling, cheesemaking) , and/or b) melee ragdolls type stuff, with a very slight possibility though probabaly not of c) a physics based throwing of objects based system that makes bows possible too
im sure it will be something completely different lol but thats my best guess
Update?
Iโm hoping for some mapping updates, seeing as thereโs lots of new tiles.
I wouldn't be suprised I mean I think they work independently of like coding and stuff right? Seems like there are always some mapping tweaks
They hired mappers whom also made tile mods. The new tiles are accessible but they donโt have definitions yet in game. Some houses have these tiles but they donโt show correctly in game yet.
Question, when are we getting (if we are getting) GI shadows?
I think the horse (mod) could benefit from its shadow not being an ellipse 
when next update
pretty computationally expensive. Youd probably get more mileage at less cost trying to pull that off for tiles
Lv would still be a crapshoot i imagine but still
for entities?
Yeah
I mean you could probably isolate it to players and animals and skirt by but
Zombie shadows would be ruff
What about something like RTT
yeah, shadow mapping
When it's ready
my guess is in around 16 hours from now
We should get something going on Kalshi for these guesses (I say for no self-interested reason whatsoever)
Nah it will be at 14pm
So... you are saying there's a release date already set? 
don't believe I said that at all
then you wouldnt profit from a bet 
who said I was going to profit?
14pm lmao
He just wants to watch us all lose :p
I am fueled by misery

1 free french fry
Let me guess tooooo:
it drops when it drops
and whenever that moment comes, i will be standing here with open arms, ready to welcome the update.
wheneverโฆ itโll be a good day either way.
๐ซ
how we coping gamers
We should hype the upcoming patch with unrealistic expectations so that everyone is disappointed.
I think he might make you disappear
My job is to make Sully go bald due to stress in less than 5 days
AmazingBalldy
Next update has NPCs confirmed
its hats for our cows
And the new horses
^
i kinda want to change the last text to something else and screenshot it to make sully look bad but nah, not today
next time thou
: (
hey sully do u know if TIS is ever going to hire entry levels to work with then?
I know it's said they are currently not looking for entry levels, just curious if they ever plan to look or open jobs for.
Extremely unlikely.
Especially given the absolute wealth of talent in the modding community
true true true, fair enough
is there a way to stop zombie lore speed from swapping itself off a specific option?
42.14 in 6HOURS??? we shall find out...
in 6hours...
(this is solely based on the release time being on 6hours from now on .13)
Hmm, explain how was hired as an entry level shitposter then 
lol

With tree leaves
How exactly your patches disappear? Do you play with mods?
usually happens when im eating something and i have a bandana (or any form of mouth cover) on or equip something they'll just vanish, its happened with and without mods
gonna add on but sometime they will come back but most of the time i have to take off the patches and readd them for it to work
Has this bug been reported on our forum? If not, please follow the guide and attach console file and video with repro steps only from unmodded save/server https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-report-guide-updated-18122025/
If the game is crashing, please use the SUPPORT section of the forum and provide this information in your post. Linux/Mac Logs Location: Home\Zomboid\Logs.zip Windows Logs Location: Users\YOURNAME\Zomboid\Logs.zip The Indie Stoneโs Bug Report Guide Mods must be disabled. Reports with mods will no...
anyone else following this?
What did that end up being
Cyborg reveal
Update dropping at 8:99pm est
Another wintery day without an update, all is well in the world
I lowkey think it will be today. I have no evidence.
update soon
update: There will be no patch today, thank you for listening, please look forward to it
They do indeed be silly haha
when veteran
When you git gud
Man those tusks are nuts
hes almost stabbing himself lol
Is that real??
yeah, elephant seal
they look like they should be on tattooine lol
Ugh I was gonna say there were 5 red names but then Harber left, patch cancelled
they haven't left and it's 6
being online doesn't count... they gotta be active for the pentagon pizza index style deductions you guys do
I know you guys are mostly remote but TIS has an office right? Whats the closest pizza shop ๐
quasimodo predicted all of this
traditional curry fish and chips
LOL
I can just call around and ask chip shops if someone is asking for poutine, then I know where Sully is
Maybe the pentagon needs to go full remote
Sorry here in North America we are rEtuRnInG tO OfFicE
I wish I could get poutine near me 
Theres an amazing guy near me but he switched to beef tallow and my wife is pescatarian so now I gotta sneak it
he makes you say 'PouTIN' though
the correct way
if you ask for pouTEEN he says you mean PouTIN?!
yeah... as he should...
I tried to make my own, but the only place that sells curds here weren't particularly great
Really! Isn't curd like a key part of the cheesemaking process?
and also, I live in the county which has the literal town of cheddar... and we can't get fucking curds?
well good curds
Do they have good cheddar at least
meh honestly
whats the best cheese you've ever had
but for some reason the brits don't like curds... I think it's their natural allergy to flavour
LOL
Best cheese... that's a tough one because cheese on its own isn't the highlight. Like there are cheeses that are good on their own, but their true power is accentuating the flavour of other things
Best cheese and crackers cheese
Red Leicester
I shall try it
the more mature the better
As long as it isn't blue
I hate blue cheese
yeah not a fan either
its rotten!
Smoked cheeses are good
Sully for someone who doesn't know coding but has learned it before and can figure it out generally, how hard would it be to make a mod where eating a banana gives you a banana peel you can drop and make zombies slip and ragdoll
Pretty difficult I imagine
see you in 4 years
I think I blew all of the luck I am going to get in this new run right off the bat:
I imagine them are duelling prepper neighbours lmfao
"Keep Out!"
"I won't become one of them!"
Can u imagine
Just then being isolated there for like 10 years
"The lonelinees... is so much..."
And then one day they do some renovations and make a hole in the wall and BAM theres a whole other bunker with someone in there
Probably immediately blasted eachother
I hope when they add NPCs one day you find nutjobs in these basement slol
Delayed
Thursdoids are now only leapdoids
Itโs today. Trust
This is a perfect month, all the weeks fit into it like a nice box
unless you are psycho and start the week on monday
praying for the update to only come through at the end of this month
my mp server world must endure
I wonder if they are waiting a bit longer between updates now to let people play longer between versions now that MP is out
Thereโs probably no set time they release them.
Put ketchup on pizza
With 13 months we'd almost perfectly have 4 weeks with months starting on Monday and finishing on Sunday, almost
Patch is delayed thanks to you
Ugh why don't we just do that
The haters don't know that a spicy tomato sauce goes well with pizza
It legit works
You all need god
Look at this, what's the top dip made out of
Hahaha wasn't there one where whats his name had the first comment and it was "when update?"
we are truly a cultural movement
The base is tomato
There was a pizza and wings place near me when I lived in Hamilton, and they would make pizzas using the different wing sauces as the base. Best pizza I ever had, especially with the chipotle sauce as the base
Hamilton, ON?
Idk why they say you can't have dips, there's authentic (?) neapolitan pizzerias that could make me a dip on the spot
yup
I live in Burlington!
Their basic dip was smth like san marzano marinara, olive oil, basil, chilli flakes
I briefly attended McMaster University
Good call on the question mark, that is in fact not true
Pizza dip is an American dish
One day you will realize we do what we do out of love for you, because if we weren't here shitposting they would only need 1/2 a Sully to manage the community
Is it
lmao
More precisely then, it's not Italian, I've been in Italy for the last 35 years of my life and had to Google it
What do you do with fries in Italy just like eat them raw
The pizza itself was authentic, guess they made the dip for me ๐
Da fresh mootz (lmao)
My fav is probably margherita
Is this what you went to Mac for? Key in community management:
PSYCH 2AP3 - Abnormal Psychology: Fundamentals and Major Disorders
3 unit(s)
Provides students with a survey of the fundamentals of psychopathology, focusing on the description and etiology of major disorders.
Three lectures; one term
Prerequisite(s): ISCI 1A24 A/B or one of PSYCH 1F03, 1N03, 1X03, and registration in Level II or above; or registration in Level II or above of an Arts & Science or Bachelor of Health Sciences (Honours) (B.H.Sc.) program
There are dips, they just have nothing to do with pizza, but then again Italians rarely make fries, we prefer baked potatoes
I do love a baked potato
No, I was going there for a 2nd degree (this one in comp sci). But part way through my first semester very early in the first semester I decided I'd rather move to the UK to be with my now wife, so I dropped out.
Aw thats cute
Belated congrats, and good call obviously now you are working on a cool game!
comp sci degrees are pretty useless anyway, so definitely the right choice
experience is 100x more important
I propose we change all textures to svgs so that we can have infinite resolution 
not active
4pm today
I bet it comes in an hour, I just started a new run and found an angleheaded flashlight in the house then teh house next door had military bandits with an ALICE belt
oh and an M14
nah we're waiting until you're deeper into the run just to properly fuck you over
Ugh a shemagh too, I am doomed
If I find a gen mag in this row of house the patch will come
Patch will come only once you unlocked the blacksmithing tiers.
Jesus ugh ok im on it
Let's go, Blacksmithing level 10!
A good omen!
Sledgegammer next
You made me forage for 2 months straight for 3 nails in a wilderness run, yet some goddamned amateur blacksmith makes you release a patch
4 nails in Deep Forest foraging run equals a patch
Guaranteed to have a patch every time because it takes forever in any case
for carpentry sake nails should be purely optional.
Nails can have primitive variants, my run happened with the knowledge that build 42 is not complete
But sure as hell nails were the biggest roadblock I never had time to bypass
still nails for sake let say table or bookshelf (what doesn't need high structural integrity) should be optional as you can just carve joints in planks
Not a bad idea for a mod
After nails it would have been metallic scissors to be able to craft clothing, and modern lighter to be able to fire a kiln...
Will add it to my todo list
Quick, when was the last steam.db update
We shall see what devs intend to do about all this, b42 promises full wilderness runs being possible, so all we can do is to wait
btw. can you guys nerf OvoFarm loot?
OvO
in default apocalypse it start with 160 egg cartons (+dozen more uncollected in hatches)
Id say realistic, not many would loot a chicken farm as first thing...
in comparison jerkinson in irvington give you 27 units of jerky and 13kg of brown sugar
57min ago
Carpentry 10 to unscrew screws from a wood plank
You need a doctorate to rotate the screwdriver clockwise or counter clockwise
8 minutes, trust
update arrived
.....atleast in my mind ๐ซ
Whats happening
are their patch notes for it already?
No, I was merely raising hopes for the inevitable.
ah okay
Back to re calculating patch release time
This entire channel is unhinged and baseless speculation
Sully keeps us here haunted by a treasure we can never possess
Wake me up when september ends
Jesus one of the mil zeds had an M16. Day 2, looted 7 houses and have an angle light, alice belt, military backpack, shemagh and m16 lol
hop on project horseboid
another group of military zombies! 3 houses now in the riverside gated area
always bet on "no patch today" and keep winning
"Don't you guys have other games?" - almost that one Blizzard employee
PZ mobile game release today
Resurrecting your character after buggy death, subscribe to Premiumdoid Battle Pass today!
Don't forget the Hero Wars style Facebook ads where they show NASA PC-like quality graphics and realistic everything gameplay for 5 seconds and 99,99% of the game is nothing like it
We still do not have main menu and loading screen art. It was intended from the start, removed, and then just forgotten about, never to be brought up ever again.
When
when you make it
probably went down in priority hard after what happened, or we thought happened
Some people made a mod to bring it back, no idea if itโs still up tho.
.... no
SoonTM
I made new art here
And did this "modder" ask permission to use said art in the mod...
@swift saddle ^ new art for the main screen you can have it free!
Nah, that's clearly AI
Damn you got me
AI can make stickman art so beautifully?
I wonder actually
it's so beautiful, that's how you know it's AI
are you antithesis to beauty, and a bot then? You are AmazingSully = AS...artificial stupidity??
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gottem
honestly I didn't know how to construct that so I used random words that came in my mind
say first, think later
probably not tbh
given the "drawn by...someone else" and original creator being japanese person on that source website, so I have a hunch of a kind lol
I'm going to go cry now
The steam account name is Al (with an L) and I was like, this is a coincidence, right? lol at least they sourced it
Sully doesn't cry, he feeds on our tears, suspicious
crying = tears = salty = can be used for batteries = bot
All the good main menu art mods are "stolen" :( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3395485798&searchtext=loading+screen+main+menu+art (still cited their source at least)
nvm the twitter acc doesn't exist anymore
5 steamdb updates in less then an hour
Devs do be deving
reddit acc deleted as well
Update in next hour. Trust
Ok I finally found the original person if anyone cares https://linktr.ee/im_dafox
ignore the description LMAO
god damn it
Im going for lunch if I come back and the update dropped I wil be SO MAD
This run is legendary
I will miss being first poster in the said update even if I am lurking because reasons
"delay the update"
Their whiskers feel like hard plastic, its really weird
revoke the update lol
@swift saddle im doing your job

I swear I've seen you posting here for a long time yet you still lack privileges to embed shit
they found out i like to abuse engineer by crafting stacks of pipebombs that i use for everything
rank 14....patch 42.14?


maybe I am the patch 42.14, and I bring nothing so you (plural) can moan all about it forever to feed Sully's insatiable hunger for tears
The great salt lick
Last steam db update 1 minute ago 
the best thing about zomboid is stepping into the dankest, moldiest, nasiest bathroom in kentucky and having no issues slurping up water outta the toilet
i found spiffo bagpack
well. in trailer parks it would be scary use even the sink
@teal flare we are at 11 updates today, 14 is in sight
My calculations were incorrect. However last db update was 8 minutes ago
this is majorly off-topic but septic tank worthy https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/09/discord-to-roll-out-age-verification-next-month-for-full-access-to-its-platform/
we need Sully's face so we can continue using this channel
Last night was chocolate s'mores
they'll also use age prediction, manual verification is mainly for new accounts and where the system isnt sure if you are an adult or not
discord data had a "predicted_age" field for quite some time now
@swift saddle I need your opinion for this, I'm curious if TIS has any thoughts of this change, since I feel it will be a moral obstacle for many users, given recent p...p..politics (naughty word I know) about data being held on american servers regarding important data of non-US nations
time to dig out those game character faces to offer to the AI
Even worse. There is no skateboarding traversal option in the game.
mmmmmmm
how do you make so many good dessertsa
Become a professional pastry chef.
Can I just watch the cooking show
Yes, YouTube is full of great cooking shows! 
Especially bad because Discord already had a data breach that involved leaking of people's government ID's and faces scans a few months ago. So they have a proven track record of being not trust worthy with the data.
thats one of the points I needed to mention but failed, so you have come to save me. Just concerning that some communities may fracture if it gets invasive and bad enough, but if that doesn't happen, it simply means people are selling their data for free, for untrustworthy companies and nothing will ever change
And it will only get worse as time goes on because they want to become a publicly traded company and we all know what that means, we have seen it hundreds of times before at this point... share holder profits above all else
I'd very much prefer not to give my face or ID for an american company, two are enough in the past, especially in this world situation (without talking anything further of the forbidden topic) I'd rather want to see Discord burn than mindlessly give up
TIS as an organisation has no thoughts on this. For me personally it seems like an extension of the Online Safety Act which is the bane of my existence, a piece of legislation that's good in theory, and awful in practice. So many better ways to address the concerns the act claims to address
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Very well, I merely hoped TIS may have a backup plan if this shit gets worse and worse and EU would be cowardly or powerless enough to stop it. It's no biggie for now I guess, but I'll be mad if Discord is the one stopping my shitposting instead of Frogski
No backup plan necessary, we will be where our community is
when patch
The patch is out when I say it out
Why do you hate my lactose intolerant ass?
surely this amount of ice cream is bad for your health?
is it out yet
like you are posting multiple per day
It's lactose free!
what do you use? coconut milk?
Maybe ECN is a juvenile ruminant
canadian probably, even worse
Sully told me I'm the one that can tell them to release the patch. The source is i saw it in a dream.
Coconut and oat milk!
Monk fruit sweetener
It is about 240 calories
Total for a pint
honestly don't get why coconut milk isn't used more in icecream... tastes just as good (sometimes better), no lactose, and fewer calories
you people speak of arcane and esoteric ingredients, either its milk or its soy milk, nothing in between
or maybe I live north enough that I have never seen 95% of the ingredients that exist
Pz is unplayable until we can make cheese btw. We got cheese cloth but yet no way to create the great great thing called cheese
there's a mod
if i had to guess, price
dont exactly grow in the EU, vs just oats that we have plenty of
fair... I definitely don't mind paying a bit more for it
i mean, it do be just a few more years and we can grow coconuts in the EU, so eh
it gives and takes
When will we be able to inhale the suspicious packages we find in the game
definitely Canadian ๐
as all things should be
oh Canada
our home and native land
yet Sully moved to UK even he could live in Canada and work for TIS
I did it for a woman... I'm not an example to follow

Erm, more like AmazingSimpy (I'm kidding, that's sweet)
hey I paid 7,5 euros for a race change item in FFXIV and got myself a wife that way, cheap
atleast you found your human โค๏ธ
apparently "nothern bloc" in the UK is icecream made with coconut milk
thanks, random vegan blog
This is no longer the topic but if the discord id thing goes beyond limited access & ends up being a requirement I will simply no longer use discord
I made an Albanian come here
yeah I'm much more of a savoury person anyway... but I tend to grab Halo Top when I do get ice cream
I think ben and jerry also started doing plant based ice cream, it takes a bit of getting used to, but it does taste pretty good
@swift saddle quick question where would I tell my friend to find the files so I can add to this bug report with my detection of this bug? Got video of it happening and its a client side desync only. Leaving the area the vehicle is in fixes it and rehosting stops the bug sometimes. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/89585-car-model-disappearing-in-multiplayer/
(Not the OG poster of that bug report but a new person to add on)
cheesemaking and ice cream confirmed for the next update
Criteria does fit its vanilla from this current build (in MP)
cheese ice cream confirmed
This guide needs to be followed for all bug reports https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-bug-report-guide-updated-18122025/
If the game is crashing, please use the SUPPORT section of the forum and provide this information in your post. Linux/Mac Logs Location: Home\Zomboid\Logs.zip Windows Logs Location: Users\YOURNAME\Zomboid\Logs.zip The Indie Stoneโs Bug Report Guide Mods must be disabled. Reports with mods will no...
actually, does icecream have a thawed state?
melted and solid but not frozen
In the game? yeah it goes to melted and rotten lol
rotten melted ice cream sounds disturbing
or maybe ice cream in PZ cant be thawed but not melted...
does tossing it back into a freezer resolidify it?
This looks pretty fun. https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1r06ska/the_great_spiffo_rope_race/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Alright should be easy to do got dated screenshots/vids from when it happened will need to cross reference it later. Would uploading a clip be helpful with it? (Not when it happened each time sadly but after)
yes, it will likely form ice crystals due to water molecules pooling together so it won't have the same texture, unless you have something like a ninja creami to drillpress it
or a pacojet machine
i mean in zomboid 
Also it's pretty funny how the first Google results for "rotten ice cream" is from Project Zomboid, 4 years ago.
we're culturally relevant
tbf, what ice cream survives long enough to become rotten?

poopy scary jefferton
Imagine a recipie needing rotten ice cream in a mod down the road and it ends up being used for a AI answer
Yum rotten snax
now that I think about it the pacojet should be in PZ in some of the restaurants, it was made in 1988 
LOL
Sully I sent you monies to buy my custom role icon but it was held up at the border and taken to the Tower of London so you gotta go get it there

nah, you gotta pay a courier... I ain't moving until I get paid
Does TIS have a continuity of operations plan in the event of an actual zombie apocalypse btw
Yes... the plan is to panic and probably die

But how will this affect the release of b42
probably gravely
they need a reallife test first, to finish b42. so all good if it happens ๐
was there any clarification for the original build 42 title art being AI generated or not?
You know
We never did get that did we
I mean I hope it discourages them from considering it in the future
Ai art is just so glossy and generic
we probably never will
the transparency on something like would be great, i'm really not leaning believing either or, closure and the truth is all i want
We did not follow up with the artist as there was no need to. The images were removed, and thus it simply takes time and effort that is better spent elsewhere
12 zteamdb hpdates
We need 2 more folks lets go rise up
We still have 2h of possible update time
but they are a global company, they can update at anytime
My calculations have been incorrect twice today. It will be today, trust.
Yeah but they usually update in this specific timeframe
Trust, we have 2 more hours
heck, when MP dropped it was the middle of the night where I live, on the west coast of Canada
we tend to update when we're ready to update... we don't really schedule a time
Unless sully says to vanqiish all hopes
Yeas
L O W E R E X P E C T A T I O N S
they preparing the patch right now, tested, found a bug, fixing it and drop the patch soon ^^ calm
is there anyway to have those pictures ? I liked them, or are they gone forevers i liked changing them on the pz thingie for my steam
I trust you eith all the knowledge, i shall spread the word
i don't believe that you should constantly and even regularly lean into things with the community, but generative AI and AI in general is not something well received across the board by the gaming community in general, is this the official stance of TIS as a whole, are you going to commission/work with them in the future? are you going to ever to the bottom of it if so? i'm not a drawer or painter, but as a musician, i can imagine a lot of other artists out there, musicians or drawers alike, don't like to see it shelfed like this
so if im not right, you going to hunt me, right? ๐
I think there's a mod
Oh definelly but thats just cause i want your mapping knowledgr aswell hehe
i dont have much mapping knowledge ๐
Theres always a mod
These damm modders tsk
Just all of it
okay thanks, ill check it out , and save it for stable yay thanks sully
Gah i still need to finish my mapz, I have so many ideas for mapping but setting up the mapping tools is the bane of my existence
Itโs pretty easy tbh, Iโm excited for the new tools.
if b42: #mapping message
We're not in the habit of witch hunting. We hired an artist who we had a long standing relationship with to perform a job. The result of that art was shown to dozens of community testers who all gave unanimous positive feedback. At no point when it went in front of TIS employees or community testers was the possibility of it being AI generated raised, and had it been we would have investigated.
After release however there was such a shitstorm that distracted from all the great work.. years of work that we put into the game, that we simply decided to remove the artwork and let that be that. There is no positive outcome from investigating, and only extends the drama when what we want is for people to focus on the amazing updates that we made.
i miss the menu and i loved the loading screens 
Let ze dead horse be and play horse mod for alive horses

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Our man Paddlefruit, part of horse mod crew, reddit revealed
One of our septic tank kids, all grown up and contributing to the community over shitposting
lol
So true
Haha thanks! Its done really well on the workshop and we're super happy about that
Still much work to be done though
Will use the mod for stable 42, it already looks perfect for my nu medieval vibes I expected TIS to bring one day! You apparently got the short stick of animating the darn animal
I'm kinda sad we havent seen many farming mods yet
Oh I didn't actually do the animating, that was Alex. I made the rig and did the technical work of making that work in the game
He did an amazing job
the animation blending is super solid
i'm not asking for a witch hunt, but i can see how others would turn it into one, i want to make it absolutely clear, i didn't really think much of it either at first. i won't try to change TIS's stance on it, but i won't hide mine on it either, there's a whole community of artists out there, some who've lost their livelihood to Gen AI, it's a disservice to them to shelf it, and selfish, but frankly, we all do selfish things and i don't blame you, guess it just stings a little
Ah, read wrong then but it explains why this Alex was...peeved about horse legs lol
I tried my hand at bipedal animation at the beginning, dry heaved, then died
Thankfully Alex descended from the heavens and did a phenomenal job
It was fun to rig thoug, inverse kinematics on bipedal animals is fun
Paddlefruit and co for red name president one day
I don't disagree with you, but you have to remember for every one of us there is like 100 people who will just go on a rage and cause more issues than it is worth, it's in TIGS best interest to just move on
I'm currently working on upgrading the horse rig to be on par with the human rig I made and I have created this abomination by accident
LOL
Silent Hill horse
can you ride it like that
Yeah haha
lol
looks like a quetzal
We hired an artist... one we have a longstanding relationship with. We didn't outsource to generative AI and we have much more important things to focus on. It serves us no benefit to dredge it up, and would actively hurt us as we would have to deal with the drama all over again... which we obviously don't want
I dont know what that is so I agree
Ooooo, pterodactyl update has a nice ring to it
Despite my stance on it, i respect those wishes, and i'll drop the topic
i thought it was some mythical monster lol didnt even know that is a real dinosauce
saur lol
yummy
I could go for some dinosauce rn

you guy's have pumped a lot into this game, i won't let something along those lines overshadow that, i am greatful for all you've done for the game and the community
best community
Only Discord side
Up there... but best?
ok best one that i have been apart of lol
lmao

there are some gems, and there are some turds
Best devs maybe, humanity wise
Most of my favorite games can have pretty bad communities
more gems than turds

