#42.12.3 Unstable Released
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Nobody learned from me and they poked you again
I am honor bound by defeat to declare all of sullys opinions correct! Stand down all ye who oppose!
Flicks you away like a bug
This made me spit my Dr Pepper out hahaha
There is a rise of discussions where players are requesting to add a toggle to enable/disable sprinting for accessibility reasons.
I mean, yeah, more accessibility options is great, but I think the devs already know this one.
Unless I'm misunderstanding, isn't that already in-game?
Heh nice
That is why I said the devs already know this one.
It was just a remark on the current trends online.
I see that it started off as a plead to gamedevs from a player, and then the discussions snowballed.
hey is there a way to combine spools of thread into one?
oh there is
in right click menu
the ever growing pile of shotgun ammo
🤔 will they eventually implement a mechanic where stuff outside degrades (like rimworld)
dont give them ideas, my loot pile is going to be on the floor until an NPC sorts it
Package it all
It is in fact SO toggleable that I didn't even know I could sprint for like... 500 hours
They already did with roads/paths and food spoilage.
They can also expand that with collection containers and spoiling the goods inside with mixed, tainted water.
I might after the heli event
as long as its not like valheim , that can be flustering sometimes
all your beautiful wooden things become crusty and moldy
Good lord where'd ya get all this
Whats your ammo setting?
Standard apoc no settings changes. I started in rosewood, cleaned out the police station there. Went over to the gunstore by coalfield. Then went over and cleaned out the army surplus store. After that I went over to rosewood prison and moved the majority of the zombies out of the front area so I could loot the armoury. Next I will likely go to Muldraugh police station.
I haven't decided where I am going to use it all
Crazy
we need chocolate pudding in game, ok bye
Many puddings!
Aww.... we're just giving devs ideas on how to add more gameplay difficulty modes outside of Apocalypse, Builder, and Sandbox.
There are just so many different types of sauces... If we wanted the salad dressings to be stackable, this will be where I would compromise to not have salad dressings.
need me some in-game reindeer burger like the one I ate an hour ago
salads in game also need some croutons
NOOO, who would want to see GHOST PEPPER BBQ OVER RANCH WITH WHITE VINEGAR SALAD DRESSING over their salads?
meat pies!
chicken pot pie
Need full recipe on how to make one in-game.
lol yah
being able to make differnt types of cakes that dont have the bland model.
being able to make a black forest cake rather than just finding the slice by it self.
ghost peppers weren't really a thing in '93
portal cake
at least not in the western world
i have seen something similarliar to that in pz i always eat a rotten one
Carolina Reapers existed before, don't they?
Cayenne peppers
don't think so
i just remember jalapenos being popular and cayenne stuffs
what is disappointing about the jalapeño peppers is they dont have any spicy effect when you eat them.
making some spicy coated chicken wings.
Carolina Reapers were bred in like 2001
yea I remember those two being the hottest we could get
Whoa, really? TIL
Devs gonna be like, "Nice, we're adding Hot and Pain statuses now."
And possibly Queasy just for hoot.
lol
eat spicy food and needing to drink water to compensate the thirst.
imagine eating too much spicy food and having upset stomach.
I can imagine.
then the monkey paw devs will add allergies for a randomized food type that kills you fast if you consume it
Mexican Spicy Taco is not something to trifle with.
if only eating grapefruit and perscription medication have some punishments.
"OH GOODNESS GRACIOUS... You got some of that brown stuff inside the rims of the toilet bowl."
I totally am drinking grapefruit soda with meds that dislike it
statins
stains?
nah statins are a cholesterol lowering drug
we need some morphine in PZ being more effective pain killer but risk overdose.
oh
when you eat grapefruit with it it messed it up
many mental health related meds also weak to grapefruits
true
Oh no.... new dev idea: Let's add a skill trait where you're prescribed long-term medications. Need to loot for antibiotics, beta-blockers, anti-depression, and painkillers to keep yourself alive. +10 skill points.
I would definitely like drugs to be more useful
antibiotics specifically but everything really
aaand once they run out...you craft some yourself...or drugs smh
.... Do we have such recipes for those?
'Cause that would really make this dev idea viable.
no so you gotta become a "park chemist" as we finns say, synthesize some...mental health...affecting (not necessarily in a good way!) stuff
herbal variants would be neat
Ooh, good one.
Tegridy Farm
would be great for primtech runs too! two bribs one rock
Deers would be like:
more types of illnesses so you need to use more types of medicines
Hmmm... eventually, it will become a matter of debate if we need to add zombie cure to the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB5y7GF-SbM imagine this for an opening for PZ
I would like there to never be a cure personally
It's fine adding it with mods, but no ty in the base game
smae
the cure is becoming a grizzled veteran of the wasteland, instincts so honed and an impeccable skill at the art of battle so he shall never be slain
and hopefully some sensible armour protection for bites that isn't just stacking layers until heat stroke
Im guessing this isn't intended
months ago there were void tiles, an entrance to the dark void below map ground. Now there's a pocket dimension pigsty
Quantum bacon
Lol
No, it's definitely intended
It's just that, you have been in the world for so long, the pigs are lonely.
Originally there were 3 pigs. 2 of them got "passionate". What you're seeing here is a multi-generational family.
I call them the Habsburg pigs.
I tell people to come in here to ask the CM questions related to development and they wont do it lol
I thought we're all making up fun lores and wacky trivias here?
Never about development stuffs.

Why would you do such a horrible thing to me?
the last thing I want is more work
it's okay though because I'm off for the next 10 days, so you guys can get rekt without me

AWH
Now that community fire gif will be Sully when he comes back
ill just save all the questions
😆
ahahha yeah
as is always the case
I've learned to just let the fire be
and by that I mean go into my own corner and start new fires
Now they can finally release the patch that you specifically have been keeping from us!
noo lol
they better not... all my hard work gone to waste
Not allowed to start fires till we get fire rework 
But its prettier already
prettier yes, but same mechanic that has basically gone untouched since tech demo days
yah but now we can light chickens on fire to make a mobile molotov
Enjoy the time off btw!!
Yes! Hope you do something fun and relaxing 🙂
spends the 10 days just playing PZ 
Lmao that’s what I would do…
now who are we gonna pester
I hope this gets included in the zomboid wiki
also have some good holidays, sully... were they voluntold? 
Hahaha that is perfect 😂
I just like watching the world burn :D
- it getting colder outside so I thought everyone needed a nice warm fire
Lmao puppers is perfect
im encountering a bug in using scythes. using it on grass seem to not work. it clears a different area than the one indicated
Are you running any mods?
and do you have video footage by chance
if it is just a vanilla run then I would recommend filing a bug report (as long as it hasn't been submitted already)
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small mods like auto mechanic, auto tailoring and modern moodles
technically any mod can cause any number of issues, I would backup your save and disable the mods and try
even if they aren't related to the mechanic at hand they can still cause issues
just testing on my debug save I found no issues with it https://youtu.be/NAtR6RRDcXM
the animation doesn't always line up with the tile I am cutting, but the cutting itself is always the one I choose
Why, when you're going with a car backwards at night, do the car's lights turn off?
they don't turn off, they just don't face backwards. your character looks back when reversing
you can also move your mouse facing the back of the car to see behind you , so you can see how it works
yeah but why there is no light from car
because your character is looking behind when backing up
yay look we went up to 33 players
err 33k
because your headlights do not face backwards
Can you count that clearly say one
33 and "leftovers" players sounds like you, sometimes the meat still twitch in your fridge
egg spoils?
There are no Kinder Joy eggs in the game.
What are you guys trying to say with this

Lmao this is amazing, especially Puppers
Also I’m totally not here (please don’t tell my wife or HR)
Should add electric toothbrushes to the game and using them can be fumbled, resulting in a scratch on your dominant arm. I stabbed myself just now with an electric toothbrush, the metal tip without the brush part on it.
Gravity is hell of a hazard
There is an annoying bug if you drive too fast, there will not be rendered a black map and you will crash into it 😄
Whats the chance for next patch mp?
yeah I would say 0
My educated guess is they are refining the 3d simulated projectile system for bows and throwing other things (bombs, baseballs, bricks etc) and that probably needs some serious tuning for multiplayer since basically any amount of desysc would fart with whether projectiles hit
Sorry zomboid will no longer have multi-player 😔
Only that thing from that walking game where you see hints of what other people have been doing lol
Death Stranding x Project Zomboid when, @HideoKojima?
That said it would be neat if even in SP survivor zombies were sometimes other players who died at the same time haha
So we'll have very well textured feet then?
like that
is anyone able to parse this log? can't make sense of it for the life of me nor what's causing it. caused when shooting zombies with a handgun
something to do with body position 989, whatever it is
i was watching the new trailer of stranger things, there are few frames looks like PZ
I'm just curious, what are the devs plans on implementing the new shooting system for gamepad users/steamdeck?
figured it out, turns out clothesbox redux got broken with latest hotfix
looks like hot garbage tbh...
Usually means your PC is not able to keep up in loading the next parts of the map as you travel at fast speed
if any devs brings up gun supressors, that dev has my vote for president
@midnight pike I summon the rabbit to tell me if there is an update this week
As you can see, on both of the original picture and the zoomed in one, Luna is holding onto the patch barely, ready to be deployed, merely waiting for NasKo to okay the release
A shame the expensive phone my wife has, still cannot take pixel perfect quality pictures
They look so cozy my goodness
but alas during these dire patchless times, anything goes
If there is a patch today I shall become a servant of luna
unfortunately the antichrist, pretender-absent Sully, the Destroyer of Fun has decreed the timer since last patch takes into account even the hotfixes
Thou shall not imply Sully's holiday-absence correlates with the efficiency of time spent working
jo what the hell kinda camera is that
please get your money back
I don't know, maybe the wife zooms in like mad to avoid waking up the bunnies, can't creep closer to a prey animal
plus the phone was bought in Poland, while we reside in Finland, it is quite a logistical nightmare to go back with a physical receipt!
oh christ
I will pass the feedback back to wife that she can maybe compete with Loch Ness monster photographers in quality!
no, thats on the phone thats a crazy amount of artifacting from zooming
I don't even know if its a Samsung or some obscure polish brand, should probably check 😄
because of this weird obsession to have always slimmer phones they arent putting proper optics on the cameras so its all software 
if its a typical brand (xiaomi, samsung, google and the likes) the camera chips inside might support lens adapters if she does want to take pretty long range pictures
I think she just zooms in a lot because bunnies are in general not easy to surprise, and she really wanted to zoom into a piece of rabbit shit to make a point
fortunately our photo folder with thousands of bunny pictures can fit into the patch prophecy we practise here, always a fitting picture when Luna is summoned
lol
in their spirit i wont be tolerating rabbit stew on my zomboid servers in the future 
I wish I could catch a rabbit to breed them in PZ
but the little shits always end up "tired", by my tyres
uh below rosewood theres a relatively big animal farm i had luck there with bunnies being in the animal enclosure
just be careful because well, they breed like rabbits
cornering them seems like the best option, if lucky with spawns
i just cant tell you if they are guranteed spawns or chance spawns, there is a sandbox option for guranteed animal spawns on farms
and if I can get two female rabbits, I have my Luna & Peanut, and they can drink rainwater/eat grass so low upkeep cost for RP
and there also spawn chicken so i dont know if i was lucky or if they belong there
sheep-chicken will be my farm animal goals, covers wool, milk, leather, meat, feathers (for bows)
and a ram does quite less damage to my body vs an angry bull...
i dont know how to share a b42map link so take this
its diagonally under rose wood and the prison
You will probabaly need to butcher a few cows just for the large leather depending on what tailoring stuff you might want to do
yeah suppose sheep leather is not very large, and if you can combine them to make big ones, it'll just take a lot of sheep
is there even a cow type that yields best leather gains
Every cow is one large leather, but you get different prints haha
like patterns on the hide
which translate to the clothes if they are hide clothes
that sounds like a pain, if making many leather based goods
making leather removes that
eh, angus cows yield meat and leather if really optimizing the butchering goods
and its all the same leather. but if you are making hide goods you don't scrape the hide
or defurr I mean
right, hide and leather are obviously two different types of materials
I guess we simply need Stable asap so I can play Vintage Story in PZ 😉
i just dare to assume there's gonna be rebalance mods for butcher when its fully released for MP servers, but i also think its fine for vanilla to have it not give too much, most of zomboid is played in small groups after all
well without proper preservation, shit tons of meat is just rot in the end
but assuming we get some preservation additions for meat....would be nice if a single cow wasn't 1 meal type of deal 😄
freezers!
but i would also expect there to be some more crafting things for long term preservation down the line (or well, yknow mods)
freezers don't work without gasoline, and gasoline runs out! But yeah we should be getting more primitive preservation things too
It also seems like the yields reward effort - hunted, trapped and fished meat gives more than a butchered cow in calories, I think because most of the cows are just there already all over the place and realistic yields without player effort would trivialize a lot. I proposed tying the yield of slaughtered, domesticated animals to their acceptance/bonding level with the player as a proxy for how much effort they have put into 'caring' for them
written up a forum post about that?
I think there is a lot of food presevation stuff that was waiting for the timed action stuff that is used in drying leather now and plants. I would bet we start seeing some preservation stuff like meat dryinge etc soon
Nah
you would probably get more out of that idea when devs can see it in the forum 
Partly because I am not entirely sure how the yields work now anyway - sometimes a cow gives more on the ground than on the butchering hook, sometimes less if its bigger. I figured there is a lot of debugging to happen still.
you could probably check the code for it
I'm just not quite sure how much happens in java vs lua
reading the java code is a little more involved
True! I am not too crafty in that way haha. But maybe I will make a forum post anyway!
seems to be in lua now that i checked
So caveat, I am making some assumptions here not actually fully knowing how the system works. That said: It seems like the yields for domesticated animals are much less than those found in animals that are hunted, trapped or fished. My assumption is that this is done for balance reasons and to re...
um I dont think different cow breeds give different amounts of meat
unless I'm really bad at reading lua
They are supposed to!
But I think its tied to genetics
in testing, angus cows give way more meat than like holstein
ButcheringUtils.lua handles the crafting and AnimalPartsDefinitions.lua seems to be doing the actual definition
for the anugs:
local cowangus = AnimalPartsDefinitions.animals["cowangus"] or {};
cowangus.parts = cowangus.parts or cowparts;
cowangus.bones = cowangus.bones or {};
table.insert(cowangus.bones, {item = "Base.AnimalBone", minNb = 8, maxNb = 10})
table.insert(cowangus.bones, {item = "Base.LargeAnimalBone", minNb = 3, maxNb = 5})
cowangus.leather = "Base.CowLeather_Angus_Full";
cowangus.head = "Base.Cow_Head_Angus";
cowangus.skull = "Base.Cow_Skull";
cowangus.xpPerItem = 25;
AnimalPartsDefinitions.animals["cowangus"] = cowangus;
for the holstein:
--- HOLSTEIN
local cowholstein = AnimalPartsDefinitions.animals["cowholstein"] or {};
cowholstein.parts = cowholstein.parts or cowparts;
cowholstein.bones = cowholstein.bones or {};
table.insert(cowholstein.bones, {item = "Base.AnimalBone", minNb = 7, maxNb = 10})
table.insert(cowholstein.bones, {item = "Base.LargeAnimalBone", minNb = 3, maxNb = 5})
cowholstein.leather = "Base.CowLeather_Holstein_Full";
cowholstein.head = "Base.Cow_Head_Holstein";
cowholstein.skull = "Base.Cow_Skull";
cowholstein.xpPerItem = 25;
AnimalPartsDefinitions.animals["cowholstein"] = cowholstein;
and both refer to cowparts
which is this:
local cowparts = {};
table.insert(cowparts, {item = "Base.Steak", minNb = 10, maxNb = 18})
table.insert(cowparts, {item = "Base.Beef", minNb = 10, maxNb = 18})
table.insert(cowparts, {item = "Base.AnimalSinew", minNb = 3, maxNb = 7})
oh yeah I'm missing java bits
I'm not too sure what min and maxNb are supposed to mean
oh thats literally just min and max parts to give, if I'm not losing it, that gets calculated based on a few factors (wether fromground or roadkill, butcher level, animal size, meatratio and how old the carcass is) that is then thrown into a second function that calculates calories based on animal size and meatratio, while also multiplicating it by a random number between 0.9 and 1.1
so in theory you should always get more meat for the same animal on a butchering hook and with high butchering level, i didnt peak at what factors the java parts take into account (maybe sharpness of the blade?)
I remember there was a bug at some point that was changing the animal size when you put it on the hook ahha
i assume the meatratio also differentiates between the breeds
but java scares me, so I'd rather not go digging in the files for it 
Lmao thanks for trying!
This my channell now !!
I reject thy divine Puppernity
my balls are turning blue, patch when
what the hell lol
Billy is here its patch time
I am happy to accept either bows, melee ragdolls, or food preservation we don't need them all
dried meats!
rat hide gloves where each finger has a rat's head
I love how all the names of things make sense if you think just a bit
just realized novapops are starburst haha
and its kind of a better name
like that rat underwear taxidermy and the toad purse
what the hell

@hearty beacon what the hell, what happend to your profile icon?!
You aint a pupper!
HES the avengers doggie shark thing
RiP Puppers
NOO lol
Puppers is dead, long live Puppers
damnit lol
Its never going to be same PZ discord... Without Puppers it just lost the whole sense
THERE
smol case puppers
Because its a newborn! :3

When puppers grow up it become Puppers
ya
and when thriving, she becomes PUPPERS...and when her natural lifespan is ending, just pupperS, a twitch emoji
ill haunt this discord
Good! You better will!
why is there more water on the roof than in those barrels, just the huge one (20L), and the other empty?
Snowing does not collect water...without a mod at least
but there was huge rain yesterday
could have sworm that was changed hang on lol
so how come on roof ground there is water?
If you had a rainfall yesterday, that water could still be remnants of that rain, while on the new day, it became cold enough to snow? Don't think remnant water ever freezes, just evaporates
but how come on ground it not evaporated?
also, rain collectors just collect the rain fall for that tile, that puddle is multiple tiles at once
worst case collect it in bottles and toss it in a microwave
Why is my character too stupid to use the espresso machine 🙁
yah snow collects now, yay
ground hamburger tea
now you made his problem even harder to answer
youre welcome lol
is it cooked at least
also i suck at debug and i cant find the rain barrels lol
Ok - The snow collects water SLOWER than direct liquid rain, ergo the rainwater from previous warmer day equals in larger quantities of water, than next-day snowfall can be collected into barrels
AKA hot dog watre
its in the build menu
should be under wood working
lol cause i was tryping water barrel
rain collector
the corner one is just the low level (3 i thinkg?) of the later large barrel
giant puddle
B44 when?
after build 43
So tomorrow right?
it is only the 10th youll have to wait for the calendar date
So like today then right?
page 158 in the 1993 old farmers almanac
are spears broken on the latest version or is it intended? I can easily One tap zoids, though not so durable I can still craft 5 Fire-hardened spears and clear a whole horde. not that Im complaining 😂😂
and then I will learn the secret intentions of TIS? The unknowable knowledge?
They seem to be working very well. Thank you, TIS.
I need to study for my exams but the pz multiplayer crave is killing me
Now’s the time to study so that when/if my comes you can play! Get to work!
Patiently waiting 🥲
🙁 okay
That its been 10 days and sullys back?!
Shhh don't tell him im asking about the update
Ill get in twuble
Lol
How does TIS intend to celebrate christmas this year?
17th of December may be a very special date for many...
we gotta make another christmas card for them!!
i see what you do did there
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Devs please buff game
if all school learning lessons were like that i would have learned something
have you seen their game ?
A day holier than any other
quickly, Sully is away, post expectations for 17th of December, birthday of B42
shut up puppers-jeffers, ie puffers
and put that on there
whats a 3rd alias anyway when you got two already
lol fluffers
PZ becomes a persistent MMO with microtransactions
can we have loot boxes
and skins for sporks
Spiffo skin is only for early adopters!
Also Louisville is a permanent battle royal
what spiffo skin, are you crazy

I still want this tech to come to play
but no MTX please ❤️
I don't understand this, why would you want to need to connect to multiple servers for the same map?
I think I'm missing something
maybe for wilderness only map connected to the main one
So which server controls the main map?
And I feel like that would require quite a large collection of map mods that all perfectly connect and have equaly spacing
whichever has the better specs probably
so you can have clusers of servers
Yeah, but why
World of Zomboid
in minecraft they did it so that you could easily have 1000+ people on a server
but it was actually a cluster
Is it multiple servers as in hardware or multiple independent servers to connect to
hardware
Oh alright then
the more people you have on one server the more resources it takes, so being able to split that to load over multiple hardwares is amazing
So it's just for performance, right? I thought this was about combining different owner having multiplayer servers than the hardware itself
Servers that you can find to connect to and the hardware itself being the same name got me confused there
gotcha
I'm still keeping my expectations low, and also because I don't want multiplayer to come out until the summer because I'll be very busy and without my computer lol
you've been chosen for scapegoating purposes if it comes later than the multitudes hope

I keep my expectations low in life, because then I get surprised
less disappointment
lets see how 17th of December will be in these threads
lol
coincidences I THINK NOT
no :0
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Dash Ranger needs that spare tire mount to make it look more like a true jeep wrangler.
I want a powerglove as the first fist weapon
Give it a classic zomboid alternate name: the MightyMitt
does anyone know of a method to help with tracking system resource use? trying to pin down what's causing my cpu to consistently hit 100% about twenty minutes into play and causing everything to slow to a crawl
do you all think car upgrades, like armors, extended inventory and such should be included in the base game??
Likely mods, and or animals. There is a few things you can do. If you are getting errors you can check them either through logs or errormagnifier mod. https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2896041179 If not then your best bet is to backup your save and disable all mods and see if it still has the issue. If it does then is it location based (close to animals, could be 'chicken apocalypse' and they need to be purged) . If it is fine without it then you need to sort through your modlist that is causing the issue. So you can do that by going through one by one. Or you can disable half your modlist at a time and see if you can isolate it.
Car upgrades would be great and technically armours are a planned feature. I would definitely like to see them implement an upgrade system for sure, it would give the mechanics of the world more things to do and that is a good thing.
I think car armouring was teased a long time ago. I swear I saw a car armouring render at some point.
it was! and they definitely did, let me see if I can find it
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Gosh, I am such a nerd. 
Just well informed ^^ i was suprised that it was teased way back 2018. i thought it was more recent. Begs the question if it will be in 42 official
Haha yea, I have been reading Mondoids/Thursdoid since the beginning of time
. If I recall it has been talked about since - but they have been trying to figure out the modular system without bloating it too much
Maybe now that Filabuster Rhymes works for TIGS, they might be able to help sort it out
i think the devs could figure it out. Currently have the Vehicle upgrade as a mod. I'm pretty sure they'll work it out if they wanted to. (subtly giving hints to devs for consideration.)
If not 42, they have mentioned possible reworks to cars in the future. I think mostly in the physics department but maybe other aspects as well.
My guess is b43 will have car reworks. Which would also allow better collision physics with ramps introduced in 42.
Very tuff
Nice pfp my man
Second favorite character in the walking dead
Hopefully B43 has car rework but also car alternatives like horses, carts, bikes etc
I will definitely wait for the release of the 42 patch with multiplayer 
Wait, we can't carve long sticks out of planks anymore?
Nope just saplings, you can get them from cutting down trees and foraging
I don’t know if i tried it but can we plant the tree saplings in soil for it to grow a new tree?
Am I imagining things or did they say there would be a .12.4 at some point
build 43? if b42 doesnt do enough to bring in new players, then this game is cooked.
ya know something that would be cool that I just thought of?
if we had some voicelines when like, foraging and fishing to serve as lil tips to help like...
"I think I caught something" (Fishing)
"This one's heavy" (Fishing)
and for foraging, like
"What's that?" (Foraging)
"Found something!" (Foraging)
etc etc ya know? to serve as an indication that a fish has been hooked or that you found something while foraging
made this to perhaps somehow balance spears. which is understandable given how strong it got in 42
to get saplings it either you cut a tree at its early stage (not the bush stage) or by cutting a fully grown one
I don't believe they have said if it was 42.12.4 or 42.13 next
I don't think they're sending another hotfix out at this point lol
what needs reworking about cars
Animations, textures, physics, mass, horse power, mechanics skill, etc. Basically everything vehicle related needs an update, and it was confirmed none of that will get an update until at least B43
talking about 43, ill be so happy even with just adding a 0.01 on the current version number hahaha even just a hotfix of something even just as a minor bug or light or wind... I crave new content hahaha
I have a new map complaint that could only ever be spotted if you examined every dashed line on the map. There's a larger than normal gap here, and the shoulder line abruptly stops and continues further up.
I was busy today and couldn’t shitpost about the next update, and nothing happened! I don’t think I’m having any impact at all

The map I was working on brought me here and I was trying to line up the road lines of course. Also, it would be so cool if we could have a factory here with the bridge over the highway :) If not, I will
Looks cool, definitely doing it
hi
we
Lollll
Dreaming for the next content patch for 42 feels like that line Wanda said in Multiverse of Madness,
"Every night the same dream, Every morning the same nightmare" 😂 😂
Then when sully tells us a 2 line hotfix counts as the last patch I’m like:
(Don’t tell him I said that I’ll get in trouble)
what you mean it already dropped in another timeline 
Wish I could Dreamwalk there, play 1.0 official of Project Zomboid, have a blast then go back here and cry about it being in early 42.
Then cause an Incursion and destroy our world and theirs.... all because of an "Update" for PZ.
lol
spoiler alert: he already knows
And you'll be sacrificed to the multiplayer gods as soon as he's rested
Also puppers, do you like sleep sometime too? I see you at all times lol
ya rite
guys we shouldn't let our intrusive thoughts get the best of us. we should always aspire to be civilized people.
so when's the ritual??
on a waxing croissant
Can I have a buttered croissant on the waxing croissant
devs if you're listening, you gotta do something fast or else a Cult will start forming and start sacrificing people.
I've learned that update divination is a pastime for some
I wouldn't be surprised to find out some of these people don't even play the updates as they come out
Update divination lmao. I wish the mods would give me a custom badge as a update diviner hahaha
Speaking for myself, its just for fun. I play hundreds of hours of every update because I work from home most of the time and always have a 'default game' going in the background for moments where I have nothing to do. My current default is zomboid SP, as it hits the right note of interesting to play for extended periods, low impact story, and pausable. I can play in like 20 min spurts so I dont want to get pulled out of a story based game during the day all the time, and MP is a non-starter. Valheim, Stellaris, Rimworld, Vintage Story etc all work well for this too and I rotate between them haha
When I am actually in the office a few days a week, all I can do is open discord and so I divine updates obviously
Fair enough
All roads lead to patchnotes
22 days later, but I'll take it, I do enjoy the mod to have Louisville spawn points!
after all, my real name IS "Ville" 😉
It's been a long day, without my friend 
really

🥀
Stahp lol
turns out it's none of them, happens on a fresh wipe install, so i still need that system resource tracker to see wtf is happening. it just starts stuttering within 20 seconds of booting into the world and gets more and more frequent until it becomes a slideshow, not had this before in terms of lag, just regular slowness
I'm just now catching up after my vacay, do we have cheese in them yet?
If not... someone should get on that... no rush of course..
No. I made a mod for it, but as of now, vanilla omelets remain uncheesed.
I'm cheesed.
I appreciate your contribution to this cheeseless, soon to be cheesy world
Well that sucks, at least you are one step closer to solving the issue - I would recommend HWinfo, it is free. Few questions though; Does it happen on other games? How old is your machine and or what are the specs? is it a desktop or a laptop? SSD or HDD? When was the last time you gave it a cleaning out of dust?
We need cheese and bows and melee ragdolls
I want a costco sized spiffo 
it seems to be bad garbage collection by PZ, when a given amount of things are processed, it just stops cycling old stuff out and starts hanging massively. this specific issue is only on PZ, it's a four year old SSD based desktop that i just upgraded and cleaned out, was happening before the upgrade as well
mkay, have you tried the increased RAM in the launch options trick?
seems to help some people
java's garbage collection is pretty bad in general sadly
even with the newer versions
(ram amounts are an example, just make sure you give your system enough ram to work as well)
He’s so angery!!!!
yes!
do not give java too much ram
there's garbage collection flags you can add, see general minecraft flags that can (dont have to, but can) lead to improvements, but just throwing more ram at the game generally just increases the stuttering when it does reach garbage collection
16 seems to be the sweet spot for me personally, every machine will be different
usually you'd go for gb needed +2gb (obviously adjust as needed for mods)
Yeaaa I have 32 total 😆
thats a lot of sheep

tentatively going with it being resolved, normal lag but not the gradual Microsoft Powerpoint experience
🎉
also, there's technically ways to switch away from the embeded java to something a little faster, but I'd reckon you loose any form of support for that
so how many adobe products are you using?
My company pays for Adobe subscription services now.
I don't use Adobe, except for PDF stuffs for work.
I would enjoy being able to make whipped ketchup
I would prefer if there is recipe to make pasta alfredo.
Whipped alfredo!
Whats like like parmesan, cream, garlic and pepper basically!
How long could a parmesan wheel last if it wasn't opened! That could be a super rare find at greenes lol
I was actually thinking that maybe we could have a generic cheese wheel somewhere.
Which can be sliced into sixths.
And then 1 sixth of the cheese wheel is the required recipe for a pasta alfredo (dry pasta => boiled pasta => cheese + butter + boiled pasta => pasta alfredo)
Yeah I feel like there is no real need for different types of cheese thats a bit in the weeds
can leave mods to create 400 kinds of cheese with different methods haha
gta 6 will be released before build 42 MP
anyone noticed mac and cheese being bugged? or just me?
Reddit moment
the lion does not concern himself with just fucking waiting for MP patiently
I feel a waxing croissant is coming

anyone knows how to fix the crafting menu? all recipes are shown as available and the window is way too big, can't resize. tried restarting game and pc but nothing
On our radar -- seems to be triggered by swapping font sizes / screen resolutions.
Not an ideal workaround, but it can be reset by deleting User/Zomboid/Lua/entityLayout.ini
🗓️ its been 10 days 
hi

This gif increases stress moodle
Sully's holiday over then? And this thread is not even a flaming cesspit of shitposts...
I mean it's only really the core sub group of people that mainly talk in patch notes around...
I like to believe we're quite normal and manageable... Sometimes.
But there's also been a lot of good game releases recently, so people do finally be playing something different, I'd assume
still no new patches?
you would notice

it takes a while to reach Tailoring 10 every new run
just hardcore grinding with patches?
OR CAUSE abig update is coming
yes yes, cause december is next month 
Sully needs to spray the hose at people expecting BIG updates
theory crafting time
Sully taking vacation now instead of combining it with christmas vacation...suspicious
its like the first 3 weeks of December will be...a sight to behold
I am optimistic about a last hurrah for christmas
maybe not on the level of MP, but something fun to do over the holidays
I don't wanna be that guy, but every time the pinned community posts on reddit change, there's some sort of new post coming
might have something to do with the UK having a manditory vacation policy where you are legally required to take at least 28 days per calendar year off, and the year is almost over, and I was nowhere near that limit. I have to take more in December too.
You should take a break around 17th of December, nothing in particular will happen that day
Absolutely nothing that would require a community manager
I'm fairly certain the 17th of December will not be a patch day
fairly... and I shouldn't be here, I have 1 more day off
1 year anniversary of B42 unstable and you say the most wounding and heretical words
It will mark the day when people, across the months of year 2025 have listened to copium of "B41 vs B42 mp", the holy day when it has been 1 year without MP, the day of mourning, the day of reckoning when the collective cacophony of "MP whens" will start complaining on a level that tears reality in contempt of the natural order
You forgot the mic-drop emoticon, you truly have told everyone to expect less when they expected the most!
telling people to expect less? That doesn't sound like me. That sounds much more like work Sully, and work Sully is dead for at least 24 hours
In the gods in reds, of Indie Game Store, we saw salvation. Only to learn our very gods hate us.
Well, as long as you don't pull the whole "Don't you guys have phones other games", people may lack sense of humour in later December 😄
Awh thats awesome though 
It’s been 334 days, 8,016 hours, 480,960 minutes, 28,857,600 seconds without MP in B42. I’m losing my mind.
technically B42 never had MP, so it's been infinite seconds without MP in B42
Touché
'Unstable will be quicker this time bro I promise they had such a small team back then you have to believe me unstable won't take long I promise'
Would the government have worked on developing a cure / booster shot that would be "available" to survivors
Zombius
Projectus Zombius!
I have casted a spell on the devs
Expect a mountain of wheel cheese under your pillow tonight
lol
!rj
!cheeserj
!rj
im losin it
!rj
Mr. Harber is a French guy?
add mp fr
its already added 
Tabernac!
bro existing in his office on his day off tsk tsk tsk
Patch in 1 day confirmed
!heli
I have it on good authority that this week they will update the game to change it to only zero player mode
Hey Devs… when is the next update ready?
Time to take the reality pill, stable B42 can easily happen in 2027, not 2026
At this point I think that’s a for
Sure lol
a whole year without touching PZ at all ahead of me, what do they expect me to do? Play lesser games that do not give me the satisfaction of slaughtering humanoids?
fry plate
ceramics on a stove sounds like an exotic sport
!sporfo
EEK! Wrong door! Sporfo is two doors down the hall! https://i.imgur.com/F25Nn90.png By Sporfo <3
Sporfo sure reminds me of an another character that is not Spiffo...something on its face
I cast patch delay by 4 more weeks
it is going to be absolutely legendary
nope
that's right; it'll be just qol patch like any other
forget about multiplayer until 2027
or even 2028 for that matter
b41 took 3 years
so what
b42 will take 4 or 5
indie stone has a lot more ppl now
in a year we got almost nothing since unstable has launched
"nothing"
mf be doing anything just to hate
no I'm just realistic about this
this dev cycle isn't rdr2 with 14 hour shifts
separate MP team apparently means MP will be even slower
that's right
!heli
Indie Stone hires tons of new people just to do less work in total
and the funniest thing is that we still won't have any endgame content for another 6 years MINIMUM
it only makes expenses larger
somewhere in early 2026: MP
Singlain: MP in 2028!
pfffft that's VERY optimistic of you
half b42 features aren't even there yet
I'll just quote you if I remember when MP comes and you'll be proven wrong
I'll be glad to admit I'm wrong
but as the time goes, patches get less and less frequent and it adds less and less content
we hardly got anything new since early summer
Would be very funny to see PZ die as a MP game if MP took few more years
People are already absolutely fanatic about MP when it has been 11 months since unstable
Yeah let's make them wait 2-3 years more on just that
TIS doesn't care about "people"
Ah, so its one of those arguments again
Lmao what an L take
Work Sully?
Work Sully is back yes
Lessened expectations are back on the menu, boys!
Genuinely don’t get why people who have no clue so readily spread their nonsense like they know what they are talking about though
False confidence is a plague
I think some people forget that "people" are what FUND the whole game, if you just mock or not value your customers as an indie studio...
TIS is also an incredibly consumer focused company as well. Like I genuinely can’t think of many(any) that care more about their users
And I get to an outsider that looks like me smelling my own farts, but I was a fan for years before coming to work here
the topic was the fact that we won't see b42 stable for AT LEAST 2 more years
You said "MP 2028" not "stable"
mp = stable
Untrue, already in B41's case
I want to comment on that so badly, but even the vaguest mention of an ETA will summon a horde of angry gamers
The price of arcane knowledge, Sully
You know so much, or at least enough, to end many arguments, but you cannot use such weapons against mundane users
We still have hopium that MP is "faster than B41" but time is running out on that one, so we shall see
even if, might as well double down on the waiting times for b42
yeah I hate that they (not sure who was behind that comment) said it would be faster than B41... it should have been, but there were of course unforeseen delays.
as is always the case
I am well prepared myself b42 stable will be out 2027 at earliest, MP is the prophecied matter
There were delays for MP? O_o
I'd day Q3 of 2028
As in, this is new information, I thought the "delay" thingy was for B42 unstable
can't go into specifics, but yeah there were some things outside of TIS's control
we'll get rivers in vintage story before b42 mp
but it's coming along very nicely now
Very well, unfortunate but so it shall be
hell, even gta 6 before b42 mp
We already got rivers in Vintage Story didn't we?
no
we only got teased on fishing
Pretty sure I was Rickdetrix or whats-his-name do a playthrough on VS
and he sailed alongside a river going through a mountain
that's just an enormous lake
or the host had mods
and rivers mod always tends to break your saves
this probably
hell, I'm sure we'll get to chapter 4 of vintage story lore before b42 mp
so might as well settle down
and keep our hopes lower than ever
low hopes are good. Better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed
Stable 42 is my white whale to hunt, but next year gonna be painful without good games to enjoy
there are so many good games
gaming is in a big decline
I have some personal ideas for PZ mods I'd love to make...that no one seems to have done
for the long term survival game enjoyers, that is
lmao not a bad idea... that'll help me finally fund my yacht
coding + zomboid modmaking might be 2026 plan if I can't play Stable
When boredom makes a man think about learning useful skills
yeah but in the recent months I couldn't bring myself up to play literally anything
went to learn 3d cause of that
and each time I get on a game it feels like a total waste of time
idk why
that rabbit with a clock always pops up in my head every time
no thank you, tarkov ate 2k hours of my life and I'm not having it
Warframe doesn't let me dress up characters in pretty dresses does it
ummmm... yes
and if you're into that try Duet Night Abyss.
It's a cross of Genshin and Warframe, but the gacha is 100% cosmetic
or Infinity Nikki if you want to go hard on pretty dresses, but that's hard gacha
and it doesn't let me dress myself in a bunny suit with tactical gear and go shoot up the louisville checkpoint
Infinity Nikki is an antithesis to my entire being, I want to end worlds, torment enemies
not shoot puffs of...something to...make enemies fade away
bunny suit with tactical gear, there's Girls' Frontline 2, it's like a gacha XCOM for gooners
Sully knows every dress-up game with asian girls eh?
Screenshotted
I'm a gooner too
I can liken myself to a gooner too but for some reason if I play a female character, I don't wanna make her skimpy, instead I prefer clad in armour like a...Sister of Battle
warframe sounds very right for you then. Voruna is bae
but I'd much rather get in a car after slaughtering the louisville checkpoint, go home and make myself a boiled pasta with rat poison and bleach as seasoning
My wife probably has played every game you have suggested Sully, and I've seen gameplay of them too xD
maybe this is a better image
your wife has great taste
why isn't she here talking to us instead
Meanwhile I goon hard for MMOs and games (like PZ) where you can retire to nature and be a grumpy loner who kills anyone humanoid-shaped coming closer
My wife decides its a good idea to go guns slinging to March Ridge and sound the car horn as she goes in with friends
smart woman
Like wtf is your life expectancy
what's the point in living long if you're not living fun?
Give me 42 stable and I'll show you fun in being a hermit
okay, just for you I'll get on that
Liar, you are a community manager, you manage other gooners, not provide them with PZ content
funnily enough my wife probably has good and ever-improving skills in making 3D assets, bodies etc for game purposes
almost a pity I am not skilled in that
you know NOTHING about gooning
Man is a certified gooner
gooned my guts out award
Sully do you think it wouldn't be an insurmountable task to make PZ mods that mostly tinker/add new sandbox customization options as a complete newbie
at very least learning how PZ modding works in general first would be advised, of course...
I have no idea honestly. I have not tried modding PZ in any capacity nor have I made an effort to understand the code. We do have a very helpful modding community though, and they have their own server which I’d recommend checking out
worth researching...
On a lighter note https://youtu.be/zI70MDuT7OQ?si=Y477QXYV6xe3ljuK
Many months and updates later the new aiming system in B42 unstable has finally reached the point it feels good. If you ignore common bugs and annoyances that plague the unstable as it currently exists in build 42.12.3
https://www.twitch.tv/retanaru
https://ko-fi.com/retanaru
Songs are all from Project Zomboid:
Find A Way
Finally Calm
Working...
Retanaru the goat enlightens us once again in a world of ambiguity
divine gift, to be able to train aiming properly with handguns instead of always-shotgun meta
@tidal maple What is this, 1984?
we don't allow users to insult other users... if that's 1984 then yeah. It's our most important rule
Did I miss something lol
well i guess the wording was a little strong 
loud coping sounds it almost December guy we got the unstable last December so-so multiplayer unstable would be on December guys. I'm not coping at all. I'm not crazy i'm the only one that isn't crazy.
Anyway welcome back sully
Its gonna be in December bro
December 2027
Nah that to soon let push that back 10 more years so whenever it released we are pleasantly surprised.
Serious question: Do we have more moodles with all upper case titles like this moodle and the extremely drunk moodle?
We need a patch update to make all moodles each have an extreme version, each with all upper cases.
No
Bro give them time. Games only been in early access for the past 15 years. You are so impatient
God that argument always gets under my skin. "Early Access" is an incredibly arbitrary title.
Makes me think about how Terraria came out May 2011 as a "full release" that was incredibly bare-bones compared to the current version, and ReLogic have similarly been providing free updates for over a decade.
Early access doesn't mean anything anymore let's be honest. I played the stomping land when it was early access but it was never finished
I do wish Steam had an "active development" tag. Where developers could say "hey, more updates coming"
Because yeah, what's a beta or early access is entirely arbitrary and has no metric
3 TIS employees shooting the shit in discord, update is coming
That what I see early access is at this point
Yeah but I mean there are so many games outside of EA that still get constant updates, and I hate it. I'm so mad at Stardew Valley lol
beat that game in 1.0 and just can't replay it to get all the new content
no attention span
It does have a warning when an EA title hasn't received updates in a while
Stardew valley is a masterpiece that I replay once every 6 months
I have tried so many times to replay it and I just can't. Great game, and I love those farming sims, grew up on Harvest Moon... but just can't play the same game over and over again
I spent like irl 5 days to beat the mini game with no death for that achievement and I need to 100% the game
especially games with an end
Same but stardew is like a good to de stress. Unless you tru to optimize the whole game. You could also play stardew valley expanded that might help you last longer.
I will admit that it is hard to start replaying the first month and half is so slow it kinda boring
four TIS employees in here this morning now update imminent
trust me I have a minor degree in update divination
Have u tried doing challanges?
I love trying new crazy stuff when playing sv like....Vegan run, apocalipse run, mine and craft only run, theyre really fun
I've never been a big fan of challenge runs in anything. No idea why, I just don't find it particularly fun. I'm much more of a "I want to experience the story" type of person with very rare exceptions
Yeah same
I love story games that my choices actually matter vs "your choices matter" aka there is 3 choices in the whole game that matter with thousands of other choices that will only give you more information.
december 2028
I wish there was a bookie taking bets...
I been calling Kentucky "Kenwucky" for so long that it been autocorrecting Kentucky to Kenwucky
Kentucky has two local pastimes: throwing sledgehammers in the lake, and no cheese on their omelets
Forget cheese omelettes, we don't even have different styles of cooking an egg. Hard boiled with the shell still on is our only choice lol
Damn
5 dollar on red
how unethical would it be for you to organize one?
(also i can recommend the warframe recommendation too, its just a pain to get into, once you are in you aint leaving)
technically there's a pvp mode but nobody plays it anymore
if you have ever played a monter hunter game, you know the feeling
while its grindy the gameplay just flows, it probably has one of the best movements system out of any game
ya , i cant remember what the firstand only monster hunter i played but it was fun
wilds is pretty fun if you got a beefy device, otherwise Worlds is probably the closest second
dont like pvp stuffs so if its not pvp
most of the game play is purely pve, its a bit tedious to get in to (you'll use the wiki A LOT) but you also have 2000 different things you can do at some point
there's always a grind that'll fit your current mood 
I have not played Warframe since before they added the open world stuff
Not PvP, but it's a free to play game so they need to monetise somehow. One way they do it is by selling weapon/warframe slots. New players start out with too few, which is very restrictive. The premium currency needed to buy slots is really easy to earn in game, but for new players starting out their options are limited, so it feels really restrictive. Players who have been at it for a while have so much currency that it doesn't even enter the equation
but the gameplay is some of the best I've ever played. As Newbie mentioned, probably has the best movement system ever
imma try it then
pro tip @hearty beacon, when you first start playing, be sure to turn off public matchmaking. You want to experience the game yourself before partying up. If you join in parties then higher level people will just rush you through missions and you won't get to learn/enjoy them
ok lol
Oh gosh, I looked it up - the first open world stuff was added in 2017, it really has been a while
yeah they stopped with that
Oh did they?
also, dont concern yourself with relics and prime stuff early on, thats "endgame"
Last time I played was July 2017, that stuff was added in October lol
Deimos was the last one, since then they do the regular random generated large areas you go in with bounty like missions
Gotcha
cant wait for my adhd to grab it and hyperfixate on this for like 2 months
but the old open worlds arent completely useless, you still get Aya from that, which you can use to exchange for unvaulted relics in a new event that runs every few months, pretty much their solution to the prime vault being STACKED
lmao yup... that's what happened to me... then I burned out.. put in like 500 hours in 2 months... then went back to it 6 months later for another 2 months and burnt out again... then went back and now I have learned how to do a slow burn lol
lol i dont know how to slow burn how to not overfeed myself with stuff!!!
I mean I say I learned to do a slow burn... I literally finished building a notification app a week ago to tell me when there is stuff I want to check out in Warframe... It's an addiction
and my spreadsheets... so many spreadsheets
whats your favourite frame? 
you should have seen my genshin spreadsheet... that thing was a work of beauty
Voruna is bae
what does this mean , is that a person you play ?
These are Warframes, they are basically metal armour things, and each has abilities. It’s basically your “character” sort of.
There are 60ish I think
and they somehow still manage to make every single one unique
Yeah it’s crazy how good a job they do
since rebb took over the game direction its gotten really good
the pity system for most warframes is just 
lol grinding Equinox… my sanity
it took me over 200 runs.
dude lol that is awesome
i love nextfest so much for that
it is free
and its not new its old as hell by now
Me too, I have not bought a single game this year
But yea Warframe is free
and does free to play well... no pay to win at all
so no mp this year, next month is reserved for warframe 
The last game I bought was December 25th 2024, and it was The Forest as a gift for my brother so that we could play it
We still have not played it
last game I bought was Peak... I played it twice with the wife... my backlog is so huge and I keep getting distracted with live service games that it's just not worth buying more
Exactly!
same here , so many different games im juggling between
LOL
That is why I haven't bought many, I am also a big fan of patient gaming - no point in buying things new cause they are always broken at launch, especially AAA
i dont think I've played any major game in the last few years
but I'm also locked out for quite a few games because publishers are allergic to VMs, which is kind of an issue if you are using cloud gaming
you cant imagine how heartbroken i am to not be able to play EAs lastest release or black ops 7... 
