#42.12.1 Unstable Released

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drifting anchor
stark geyser
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this containment zone cannot handle green names

fossil palm
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Ahaha

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Red only

drifting anchor
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unfortunately I am ever present

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I must be here

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no matter what

stark geyser
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I prefer the frog

drifting anchor
stark geyser
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at least the frog didnt mutate channel names!

drifting anchor
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I had no choice you don't understand

stark geyser
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it was funnier when it was "generulle" chat 🙁

drifting anchor
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I made that change smh

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it was OVERRULED

stark geyser
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people still ask for if MP is here despite that channel name saying "no mp yet", you think they really can understand that generulle means general

drifting anchor
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banned

stark geyser
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you're too late, frog already muted me once

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I am bonded to him

drifting anchor
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there ya go

stark geyser
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he doesn't know, parasocial affection

lime dagger
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That's been my suspicion. There's clearly something weird going on, because some people claim to experience it frequently, and others go for hours before they run into it.

I'm pretty sure the Shove Bug can smell desperation, and only strikes when your guard is down.

cursive marlin
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an Evil Indie Stone goblin presses a button at random intervals that makes one of all online players miss a shove

lime dagger
fossil palm
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lol

stark geyser
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why are you speaking of yourself in third person

lime dagger
stark geyser
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unless you are a goblin king, royalty speaks that way

cursive marlin
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if they add height costumization we could have goblins in zomboid

dim veldt
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man that really sucks that the shove bug still hasn't been isolated... it will drive me crazy

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maybe I shouldn't have joked about it being fixed in november

fossil palm
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i havent even seen it except once and i just use melee

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sneaky bugs

dim veldt
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I was victimized by the shove bug on day one of 42.12 and since then I haven't played

fossil palm
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lol

loud tiger
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Oh did I miss the animal posting session? 😔

drifting anchor
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I had no choice

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I saw the opportunity and I blacked out

fossil palm
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lmao get out

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THIS is for talking about mammoths

drifting anchor
safe hearth
prisma otter
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its definitely a play style based thing

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if someone always relies on pushes + stomps then they usually push 5x more than someone who just melees zombies to death

fossil palm
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I push all the time though and still only got it once

reef oasis
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I’ve foraged for many bugs and I’ve yet to have any shove me

tribal tiger
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I've lost two characters to it within 2 hours of starting each run. Waiting for the fix before I play anymore.

loud tiger
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That sucks!

mint dove
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Just download hacks to bypass the b42 bugs

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Ez

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E = mc²

glad cliff
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I was watching this to see if anything stood out, the only thing in my mind, is that it looks like the lunge for bite animation started exactly when the shove animation started, but then I feel like others have had it happen without the bite animation?

terse rock
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I have plundered the VHS store, and was licking my fingers for juicy exp like on b41. For a while thought there is some bug for exp from VHS, but now it's possible to get max 3lvl of skill xD damn i was confused for a while.

glad cliff
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This may not be well recieved, but honestly

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i would rather the music got fixed before the Shove bug, i miss it so much

rapid cloud
glad cliff
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now i dont know about you guys, but i feel the damage to trunks is a little crazy high

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personally when i run over a bunch of pedestrians in real life, my shopping fits in the car just as well as it ever did ||For legal reasons this is a joke||

fallen canyon
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i feel the trunk lid should act as a hood for the trunk

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also the trunk lid doesnt work properly as it claims

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"Damaged trunk lids may lead to items dropping out of your trunk"

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atleast in b41 that never really happend

safe hearth
fallen canyon
glad cliff
terse rock
glad cliff
glad cliff
safe hearth
glad cliff
safe hearth
glad cliff
safe hearth
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I am guessing they already fixed the music becasue its easy to reproduce, and its just waiting to come in a batch of other fixes

barren vessel
# glad cliff found this if its of any use to anyone, dunno if it works, just was browsing enc...

Yeah the code for this is effectively a hack, it's not actually fixing the underlying problem. So while it will give you some relief and there's no harm in using for now (I'd even recommend using it for now), it's not something we would want to implement in the code as it would likely cause issues elsewhere. That's one of the reasons why complaints of "oh look modders already fixed it, lazy devs" can be so frustrating. They fixed the symptom, but not the problem.

rough saffron
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Are more race cars planned to be added? I feel like 3 is not enough because there's some sort of code that limits the spawn rates of these vehicles to ONLY these 3, no duplicates. Meaning only 3 racecars can spawn in the world, new rarest car type?

glad cliff
earnest harbor
barren vessel
glad cliff
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i hear you, i just dont feel the need to use it, while i've had the bug happen, it's not managed to actually ruin any of my runs

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i can't help but feel like i ran into some abnormality in my last CDDA run

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there was this massive lack of car wrecks, and for the miles and miles i drove, i only found 1 single animal trailer, and i was running out of backroads, country roads to drive on, now i've already seen like 5+ different wreck sites and i only just started

rough saffron
glad cliff
rough saffron
glad cliff
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ayyy more pink hair dye

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rough saffron
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They're not "typos" per say, they're a slightly changed zone definition for traffic jams that means they aren't guaranteed (or near guaranteeed) to spawn a vehicle. They changed a few.

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rtrafficjame is different from trafficjame

glad cliff
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right but thats jams? what about all the rest?

rough saffron
glad cliff
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the car crashes, the animal trailers

rough saffron
vital falcon
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I saw on some vids that some guys are driving with campers, where do they get them from it?

fossil palm
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Rv interior mod maybe or rv mod?

scenic bramble
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having a car factory near Louisville airport would be an excellent thing to have.

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vital falcon
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26C and mist weireid how that can happen 😄

glad cliff
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@lime dagger the shove bug finally claims one of mine, but again looking at it, i'm sure just as the imgur link you posted, it happens almost as if when the shove animation and bite animation start at the same time

loud tiger
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Gosh it is a frustrating bug, and I feel bad for TIGS as they tear their hair out trying to track it down 🥺

fossil palm
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yah i think i triggered it last night somehow but im not sure lol , its JUST SO RARE for me to get it

scenic bramble
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that shove bug is annoying and it has costed me a few characters.

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its me scared to shove the zombies due to risk of that unfair bite or scratch.

rough saffron
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The push bug is caused in a frame perfect scenario between the zombie going in for a nice bite and the push start, it is more easily replicable at 24 fps and near impossible to replicate frame perfect at higher frames. PSA: MAX YOUR FRAMERATE WHILE SHOVING, zoom in, set your game to 240, do all that you can

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If ONLY there was a way to SLOW down time

scenic bramble
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found this interesting.

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prisma otter
fossil palm
scenic bramble
prisma otter
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the scale of airports is a bit weird so i dunno

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ive honestly only fast moved across in it debug

safe hearth
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I have to say, one side benefit of the music being borked and turning off is hearing all the ambience i've missed haha

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the birds and animals and stuff are great

dim veldt
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one day I can return to zomboid

scenic bramble
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having to rely on bashing zombies on grounds or stomping to avoid using the shove.

dim veldt
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you can shove if it's at a larger distance, but if you rely on muscle memory then you'll get unfairly bitten

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combat in close quarters is extremely dangerous because of it

stark geyser
fossil palm
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lol

stark geyser
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wonder how long did the chicken multiplying bug last, feels like quite a while

rough saffron
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I'm sorry, is there a building called 'Chevalier Dart' now?

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lime dagger
fossil palm
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lol did you finger it out

rough saffron
fossil palm
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😆

fallen canyon
loud tiger
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I haven't played with the music on in years, the world's sound design is just too amazing

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I do love the music though, so very much but I find it distracting in game

fallen canyon
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Mayhaps its improved in b42, ill give it a shot just to listen to the new stuff

ivory slate
safe hearth
rough saffron
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I always play in debug mode anyways, no reason not to, I can control myself lol

fossil palm
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i cant trust myself with that lol

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"spawn 500 chickens for no reason"

rough saffron
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whoops accidentally instant healed my wound

fossil palm
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lol

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"oh darn"

lime dagger
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No harm in using animal cheat to make your favourite rat invincible with full acceptance. blue_heart_askew

safe hearth
fossil palm
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honestly lol

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not my pupper !

safe hearth
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Exactly haha

rough saffron
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Will it ever be possible to see animals and zombies easier in trees

fallen canyon
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the little radius around your character

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in trees and foliage should provide your immediate surroundings

glad cliff
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As a musician it tickles my dopamine receptors relentlessly

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please tell me that music is ready and fixed for the upcoming patch, i can't take the silence of my playthrough the music gets me through

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everytime the music fades out and just never comes back in, its like someone ruined christmas

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ironically we first got the dynamic soundtrack on christmas

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TIS RUINED CHRISTMAS ||I am joking, you guys made my christmas last year||

safe hearth
stark geyser
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just youtubed the same and found out What Is Love is in it. Apocalypse did nothing wrong.

fossil palm
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wat lol

stark geyser
fossil palm
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eurodance is the tits

stark geyser
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heard the song enough

rough saffron
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Are you telling me they don't have the money to buy the rights to use these songs in-game?

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for radio, not the other music

stark geyser
rough saffron
stark geyser
fossil palm
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lol

loud tiger
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Maybe that is just me though drunk

fossil palm
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i love the piano one i think it is i forget the name

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and the little banjo song lol

ivory slate
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Yeah that twangy banjo tune just takes me right outta the vibe

fossil palm
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NOO i like it lol

ivory slate
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Its sort of appropriate given the setting i suppose. But even then it could still do with being more ominous

loud tiger
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Hehe fair enough! 😁

rough saffron
# lime dagger oh you beauty.

I forgot to ask, my brain is very delayed, is there actually a way to slow down time in testing? I've always wanted this in debug mode.

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Also, was that suggestion helpful or...

lime dagger
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Much easier to repro the issue on low FPS -- greatly eases isolation testing

lime dagger
rough saffron
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Thanks! Didn't know about that, I just assumed it would be with the other setting that speeds up time.

loud tiger
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Ohhh that is super neat

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We are learning up in here drunk

mint dove
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I will be a total menace when pets are added

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Dogs can be food, too

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Free butchering xp

toxic drift
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Ah, fuck, we have the same name. Dog eater versus dog saver, let's go

zealous orbit
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Epic

rich aurora
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Dogs can also transform into predators......a u gonna be the meal😁

loud tiger
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I will become crazy cat guy

mint dove
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Or a large sharp object :p

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Hell even trained military operatives, they can kill aggressive dogs with their bare hands lol

rich aurora
glad cliff
fallen canyon
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Kiting zombie hordes while my dog loots the gas station

safe hearth
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Is it a known bug that you can't uninstall the rear side windows of cars with no matching door? i.e. dash rancher

lime dagger
toxic drift
dim veldt
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millions. must. shove.
(Coming to you in November when the shove bug is finally fixed!)

zealous orbit
fossil palm
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rustys retirement and pz crossover when bugcapoop

regal harbor
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Why are headshots still so underpowered? I tried a bunch of different guns and used debug mode to make sure I was hitting the head and it still only kills like 1/3 times

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Leveled aiming to 10, tried from up close or far away and nothing made a difference

drifting anchor
fossil palm
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1_ nasko would know

scenic bramble
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project zomboid the TV show.

fossil palm
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exactly ghost

prisma otter
regal harbor
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Have they said anything else about this?

loud hatch
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Are you testing it with randomized zombie life?

lime dagger
fossil palm
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ya! theyre so addicting lol

loud tiger
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I am not normally an idle game person, but I'd play it

clear cloak
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click 1000 times to unlock a spiked baseball bat that gives 2x clicks

fossil palm
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no no not like those idle games lol LIKE RUSTYIESES!

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i tried a few of those clicker ones forever , thats too much clicky

clear cloak
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What is rusties

fossil palm
clear cloak
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Oh I’ve never see it

lime dagger
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Damn you Puppers -- you tricked me into thinking about Antimatter Dimensions again.

dim veldt
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n+1 people must shove, where n approaches infinity

loud tiger
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Friend of mine would probably love this

terse rock
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Damn, that game looks so amazing, will test it out, thanks @fossil palm , havent seen that before! 😄

loud tiger
toxic drift
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It's a shame, because my #1 strat for not getting bitten from shoving in B41 was just to have someone else do it while I stole all the shit. Stonks.

earnest harbor
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Is there any sandbox setting to halve task completion duration?

fossil palm
regal harbor
vital falcon
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Does the generator sound attract zombies?

glad cliff
vital falcon
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So you put a fence everywhere? Is there one that they can't climb over?

glad cliff
rich aurora
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the jarred veggies last not one month anymore?

lime dagger
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"bug" to be fixed / improved upon in an upcoming patch 🍻

rich aurora
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ah ok....

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thank u!

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here is quite a diffcult choice...because jarred food if vaccum sealed can last more than 1 year, i know u have a rework on the food system, but is quite hard to balance i guess to not make to easy the challenge for the players

lime dagger
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Should be separate from the larger food rework -- the intention is that jarred produce needs to be cooked in order to be properly sealed & last for the maximum duration. Uncooked/unsealed should still have shelf life extended by a length of time that makes it feel worth gathering all of the requisite items, though.

On our radar 🙂

rich aurora
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yeah i just cannot wait for when u gonna add preserving, with all the new meat, will be super between smoking, salting, making salami etc....really looking foward for it1

vital falcon
glad cliff
lime dagger
vital falcon
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You grind meat with it, and you make burger patties

lime dagger
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(grindr joke)

vital falcon
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rofl i mean meat grinder

lime dagger
loud tiger
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Thank you for keeping us in the loop with things, we really do appreciate it ❤️ spiffo

sour mist
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why depthmaps aren't autorecognising tiles boundaries? Its such a long and dull job having to do depthmaps manually one tile at the time...Please devs look into this... Surely there must be a way

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It's so dull that even devs haven't fully implemented it for vanilla tiles yet lmao

rich aurora
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i got a huge problem, my game just got crazy, everithyng disappeared and i got like 3000 errors

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but pz still running

fossil palm
rich aurora
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3 mods for food preserving but with the 42.12 were going good

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it's the first time in 6 years of playing pz

glad cliff
rich aurora
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good also the savegame is gone....😭

silent jolt
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any intention on makeing jar lids renewable or other food preserving method ?

frank terrace
silent jolt
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like MP right ?

loud tiger
fossil palm
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yeah i dont remember we ever reused jar lids when canning our fish

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i have come across boxes of them or they were the jars i forget lol

loud tiger
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I haven't done any canning in a long long time, but I do remember we would always buy new ones (reuse the mason jars though!)

noble vessel
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food safety classifies several, the old twist-ons usually are good for one, but can be reused if its just for short term storage (like, 2 weeks) and screw-on type can be reused several times, but i honestly havent found good screw-ons yet catscream

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there are alos some brands for twist-ons that make you change the seal after every use

loud tiger
noble vessel
loud tiger
noble vessel
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i also got more bread on my wish list

loud tiger
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😁

noble vessel
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but thats kinda so low in terms of being needed, that it should very well just be a mod lol

loud tiger
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early days most houses should probably have some

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idealy

noble vessel
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also, generally more variety in baking them

loud tiger
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oh totally

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let me keep a sourdough culture as a pet drunk

noble vessel
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wholemeal bread, its better for you, but your happiness goes down Kek

loud tiger
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🤭

fossil palm
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i miss canned fishers err jarred

noble vessel
fossil palm
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lmfao

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ok can i have some irl

noble vessel
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that not, dammit

fossil palm
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😆

noble vessel
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do we actually have any form of meat preservation currently?

fossil palm
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nopers

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i hope we get some, id tottally wait forever to just dry meat for stuff over cooking

noble vessel
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might be possible, depending on how the new drying rack is implemented in the next version

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if the code is available in lua it should be easy for modders to just reuse it

fallen canyon
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when does the stable version of b42 dorp

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drip*

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:(

barren vessel
fallen canyon
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thank you

rich aurora
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guys what mean the option "zombie count before deletion"?

torpid garnet
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I think we're genuinley going to reach the 42.20's before stable

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what was the patch number that 41 stable released?

mint dove
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a plenty of "big" things are still missing

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im still sobbing because the electrical skill related recipes have not gotten any upgrade

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or that food preservation (except for pickling) still doesnt exist

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or that things like salt or sugar are nonrenewable resources.. ..

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or that we cannot create vinegar or our own alcohol...

torpid garnet
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the list goes on

glad cliff
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Oh my god they are going to do lots of work on the game!?!?! What are we going to do it's awful

sly crane
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grrrrr

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One question, is multiplayer being developed along with the patches? For example, right now they are developing a patch and multiplayer?

lime dagger
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Multiplayer is still under active development alongside single player content

sly crane
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oh

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thanks

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🙏

analog lotus
fossil palm
lime dagger
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If only there was a post explaining our position on the matter...

analog lotus
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in all seriousness though, i hope it's released somewhere around christmas

terse rock
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You wont be disappointed!

sly crane
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I'm not playing Zomboid yet because of the push bug, but I'm looking forward to playing again

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but I hope I haven't lost my survival skills

dim veldt
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this push bug is hitting us hard, man

dim veldt
fossil palm
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i also finally got tagged by it again for the 2nd time lol

dim veldt
fossil palm
dim veldt
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yeah but I don't want to do that. I already do enough weird shit to get around the quirks of this game.

fossil palm
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can def see how its annoying, like every push i just hold my cheeks lol

mint dove
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im waiting till 42.15 to play again 💪

icy spindle
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Good afternoon! One question, probably this has been replied before but I did not find the asnwer. On 42.12 I detected that melee items has the same durability but seems the chance to reduce the durability has been increased, I mean, seems items like baseball or metal bar now are broken faster than before...I do not know if this is correct or not.

mint dove
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my gaming cycle for this game has been 42.0, 42.5, 42.10, so on.. :P

prisma otter
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steam is a great place, but oh my god do the guides and disscussion sections suck

fossil palm
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its not bad for pz lol

barren vessel
toxic drift
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Reading is shit in general. We should go up to the devs in person and ask when B42 stable drops.

barren vessel
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I will murder anyone who does this lol

fossil palm
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lol

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that would hurt to ask lol

glad cliff
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omg can you guys just make project zomboid 2 already, honestly

fossil palm
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😆

dim veldt
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imma fly to the UK and start protesting outside their office (do they even have an office?) to FIX THE SHOVE

toxic drift
dim veldt
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I just gotta be quick before they realize I don't have a protest loicense

toxic drift
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Better question is that if the devs did have an office, would they use boards or plates on their windows?

fossil palm
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paper plates

toxic drift
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Fools

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Their windows will be stolen and eaten off of

dim veldt
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so steel sheets aren't an option

loud tiger
toxic drift
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Oh, no shit? I always figured otherwise.

dim veldt
loud tiger
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They got it just before launching on steam if I recall

dim veldt
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I wonder if it had an effect on their productivity? most other indie studios are fully remote

fossil palm
dim veldt
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(I myself am far more productive if I have a place to go for work, I just hate getting up in the morning)

loud tiger
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https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2014/05/some-sort-of-pun-involving-the-word-office/

Project Zomboid
Some sort of pun involving the word 'office' - Project Zomboid

OH NO it’s a Mondoid written by your least-favourite Mondoid writterer, Binky. Sorry but, you know, we have to share this stuff out occassionally to give the only person actually qualified to write words which don’t compile (that’s Will, in case it wasn’t obvious – Lemmy’s words mostly compile just fine) a break from time […]

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Looks like it was after steam launch

dim veldt
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damn over 10 years ago

toxic drift
fossil palm
dim veldt
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and they haven't posted anything to the blog since the end of last year. Is that a leftover consequence of the drama from the release of build 42?

stark geyser
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"patch notes will do the talking" regarding thursdoids not needed right now

toxic drift
fossil palm
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make it a toy mammoth you can find in the trash with plushies lol

stark geyser
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Was IKEA in the US in 1993

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they would totally make a toy mammoth and call it MÄMMUT

toxic drift
# fossil palm "i want my mammoth"

Exactly. Instead of a cave, I've been using the storage bunkers in the railyard south of Muldrough. Alas, I must walk a ways for my wood.

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As for toy mammoth, eh, close enough.

loud tiger
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😆

stark geyser
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IKEA is such a meme to a point even pet bunnies do not chew on their "wooden" furniture

loud tiger
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I have one cat that loves to sharpen her claws on real wood, she won't do it on Ikea furniture though drunk

fossil palm
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lol

toxic drift
fossil palm
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bruh lol

barren vessel
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😭

fossil palm
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the 1900s 1_

stark geyser
loud tiger
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I wasn't around in the 1900s but I was around in 1993

toxic drift
stark geyser
toxic drift
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Based and rock-pilled

stark geyser
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can't talk about the US in 1993 though, just Finland which was...in a deep recession back then?

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the great age of alcoholism on the rise

toxic drift
stark geyser
toxic drift
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If it's all solid rock, how did it fall into a hole? Your story isn't adding up. What else are you lying about?

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🤨

stark geyser
toxic drift
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You think I believe in fish?

stark geyser
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Must be all the primal shrooms I've found while hanging out outside of the loot cave

loud tiger
noble vessel
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time to destabilize reality itself

sly crane
dim veldt
ivory slate
fossil palm
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i want more grafiti houses!!!

loud tiger
noble vessel
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but man, making an Ikea your base does sound pretty neat

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there was a "everything" store in one of the new towns close to a mall with a pawnshop close by that i was thinking could make a pretty neat MP base with a lil work

barren vessel
# ivory slate They should really *push* a fix

We tried, but unfortunately the action was cancelled abruptly for some reason. We're investigating... (edit this in since people didn't get the joke... we did not try to push an update... I was making a joke that the update we were asked to push by Azazeal was affected by the push bug...)

loud tiger
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👀

noble vessel
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boy people are going to overanalyze that one line

fossil palm
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Lol i read it 4 dif ways and i still dont get it

reef oasis
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we need mammoths roaming the forests to squash the shove bug

lime dagger
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Shove bug? No idea what you're talking about 😉

dim veldt
noble vessel
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I'd be fairly optimistic that there's an update in the pipeline

dim veldt
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well I know there will be an updtae

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after all, every 24 hours is one day closer to seeing this bug fixed

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but... when

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will it be this week? will it be this month? there's no way of knowing

noble vessel
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considering the push for a fix was cancelled...

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which unless their deployment system suddenly decided it had enough and went on holidays...

dim veldt
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I can believe it's fixed internally. Here's the thing though: there seem to be a lot of other bugs popping up with this version, more so than 42.11 (like in terms of bug reports per day)

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so... that means they may wait until they have a bunch of other bugs before they release the patch. So it will no longer be a hotfix but a full version. Or at least the time for the update to come out will be comparable to a full version.

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but time will tell. Even if it hasn't told yet.

clear cloak
fossil palm
dim veldt
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all kinds of bugs

fossil palm
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Ladybirds

dim veldt
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this is kentucky, we got wheelbugs (look them up they're gorgeous)

noble vessel
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that was a lot of words for, 42.13 is probably around the corner, which would most likely be the next week

fossil palm
loud tiger
mint dove
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Weevils

toxic drift
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My cave will be lit by campfire regardless, because primitive is just another word for awesome

fallen canyon
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"Hey this random cave in the middle of nowhere should be clear!" - said the survivor

clear cloak
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add a quick time event where you have to sucessfully hit 38 randomized keys to light a match off a matchbox

barren vessel
#

I was implying the update we were supposed to “push” was affected by the “push bug”

rapid cloud
barren vessel
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I was making a joke with no other implications and have gone ahead and edited my comment to avoid confusion, but the upcoming hotfix is primarily to resolve the shove bug yes. Last I saw Harber, Dan, and Patrick were making good progress (don't want to get more specific than that)

rapid cloud
rapid cloud
barren vessel
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I genuinely don't know... most of us are remote though

rapid cloud
barren vessel
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yes, I am... I'll never work in an office again... fuck that noise

rapid cloud
barren vessel
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it's just a huge hassle and my time is very valuable to me. Wasting it on an unpaid commute is just insane to me. 8-9 hours at work, another hour for commute, 7-9 for sleep... when do you get free time?

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at least give me my hour back

rapid cloud
barren vessel
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yeah, it's why I hate 9-5 jobs as well... having my time be owned by someone else really sucks... at least with this role I can work when I choose so long as the work gets done well, and I can easily schedule my work around my life

rapid cloud
rapid cloud
barren vessel
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There's a lot of moderation stuff, but the main thing that takes up my time is staying informed and up to date on what the team is doing and what the feedback from the community is. Looking for anything that needs to be fed back to the team, or anything I can share with the community.

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And I love my job. I was a lead developer in my last role and I left the money of that to become a CM here lol... wouldn't change it for anything

rapid cloud
rapid cloud
glad cliff
rapid cloud
barren vessel
rapid cloud
terse rock
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I love you Sully anyway

barren vessel
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lol yes... yes it has.

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I love you too Setrey

terse rock
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Hope youre doing well

barren vessel
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I am doing wonderfully thanks for asking 🙂

rapid cloud
glad cliff
barren vessel
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nasKo because he'd probably like it

glad cliff
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And which TIS member do you think could most likely survive the knox event?

barren vessel
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that is a good question.... none of them

broken granite
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My cdda runs have gone poorly so far ): all 3 ended after first week

glad cliff
broken granite
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my record is 7 months, but my safe house got corrupted and i lost all my loot

glad cliff
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yep same thing happened, 9 months in, an update did in my house, the containers i repurposed got wiped and reset with fresh loot, deleting all mine, plus my generator, i spawned in to pitch black, surrounded by zombies, instead of cozy powered walled in house

broken granite
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for me it was not even a game update, the game just wrote over my base chunk

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it happened when i went to loot a warehouse, i got back and my base was reset to day 0

glad cliff
broken granite
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cant wait till full release, i think the memmory issue is fixed now atleast, so i dont have to worry about loosing progress

lime dagger
lime dagger
glad cliff
toxic drift
lime dagger
glad cliff
rough saffron
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Random odd similarity, Minecraft's new wooden spears in the latest snapshot also break in one use lol

toxic drift
toxic drift
glad cliff
toxic drift
glad cliff
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who would buy such stinky guns

toxic drift
fossil palm
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when can we decorate with corpses!!

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glad cliff
fossil palm
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yah lol theyre cute

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i wante dto put it on the couch lol

toxic drift
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Least insane Halloween decorator

glad cliff
fossil palm
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lol

scenic bramble
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groin bite injuries and some how the survivors junk is still intact.

toxic drift
toxic drift
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First they take away my plunger, and now THIS?!

fossil palm
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Haha

lime dagger
fossil palm
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lol ithought that said grain

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professional corn eater

barren vessel
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why do I get delegated the groin biting?

fossil palm
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lol

scenic bramble
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would be nice if zombies could be fat or have muscles.

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fat zombie falls down and ends up struggling to get back up.

lime dagger
fossil palm
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😆

noble vessel
scenic bramble
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I try to avoid shoving until the bug is fixed.

zealous orbit
mint dove
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Good luck bro ur cooked

glad cliff
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i predict that its patch day

fallen canyon
clear cloak
terse rock
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Highly possible, since the shove bug seems to be fixed

safe hearth
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My theory is that the music bug was caused by the ambient sounds team so we would enjoy their work more without music... its kind of fire

terse rock
# safe hearth Its fixed? Did they mention that?

Yeah Mr. Harber told that they are almost there it was 4 days ago

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/87013-4212-zombies-phasing-through-shoves/#findComment-446253

The Indie Stone Forums
42.12 Zombies Phasing Through Shoves

version:42.12 mode:singleplayer save:new 좀비 bugg.avi Zombies ignore the palms of players during close combat in version 42.12 and attack them as they are be very disadvantageous in close combat This caused the same symptoms in vanilla game conditions

safe hearth
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Its crazy that it is game breaking for people and still never happened to me lol

lime dagger
barren vessel
molten apex
mint dove
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enslave your employees, this will boost productivity by 500%, thanks

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Mappa studios grindset

toxic drift
lime dagger
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Terminus Zombie Survivors x Project Zomboid wen, Sully?

safe hearth
barren vessel
lime dagger
molten apex
safe hearth
molten apex
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I was wandering , will there be a wiring system like redstone in minecraft ? , for like wiring a planted bomb and then detonating it from a far place and also for controlling other machines or doors for example?
Is anything said about something like these in thursdoids?

safe hearth
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In “The Connection Is Made” (Aug 2023 Thursdoid), they talk about a crafting and component system that includes a “power input” component which draws electrical power from external wires, and discuss wires facilitating connections between machines and appliances.
Project Zomboid

In “Powerdoid” (Aug 2018), they discuss improving how electricity is handled in the game, introducing “power zones” and local outages — essentially refining the electric supply system beyond the game’s previous simple on/off global power toggle.
Project Zomboid

In “Upcoming Features: B42” (a dev summary referencing Thursdoids), they mention crafting machines including “electrical machines” as a category, implying an intent to integrate more electrical / machine-based systems.
Project Zomboid

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e.g: This will mean as our library (and the community’s library) of components grows, we can quickly put them together to create all sorts of in-game machines and appliances. It’s also relatively easy to slap a UI skin on to each component (perhaps something already existing from the game, perhaps something new) to make them appear in the most appropriate way.

Components will also be moddable, so modders will be able to add new components that could then be used as parts of a machine’s in-game functionality and UI.

The end goal is to open this up to the player in-game, having these components as items obtainable through disassembly.

A burglar alarm for example will be comprised of a speaker component, as well as a battery input component and a motion sensor component. A player could feasibly go around collecting the components, removing the motion sensors and installing them around their base, wiring each of them up to lights to act as an early warning system.

Meanwhile the speaker component of the burglar alarm could be similarly wired up to a switch to allow people in the base to create a distraction sound to lure zombies away or into a trap.

safe hearth
terse rock
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Its low i promise!

molten apex
# safe hearth ^

I Don’t know how u did it but thanks for the information , you’re awesomespiffo

dim veldt
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I guess it's good thing you haven't released the update yet so I can focus on studying for an exam

molten apex
toxic drift
toxic drift
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Oh, and in project zomboid too

safe hearth
fossil palm
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can we haas jersey cows

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thx

toxic drift
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🪵

glad cliff
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Alas, i am a false prophet

glad cliff
stark geyser
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that new username reminds me of our lord and saviour Shabingus the Salacious

toxic drift
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Wiring up the entire town, you almost gain enough XP to get halfway to electrical 5

sly crane
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hi

dim veldt
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I finished my exam, where patch ;-;

stark geyser
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not even been a month since 42.12

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try in about 4 weeks to pass the 7 weeks mark

dim veldt
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this is what I was afraid of

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I got my hopes up when there was a hot fix for some other issues

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I should never get my hopes up

stark geyser
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the shove bug will be fixed

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B42 just ain't the live official game, so it's probably not something that has to be done within 24 hours since its first appearance

dim veldt
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or even 432 hours since its first appearance

stark geyser
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if the previous info was correct, it'll be fixed in 42.12.2, which is a bugfix minipatch for 42.12

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so probably not gonna take 7 weeks for that specifically

dim veldt
rough saffron
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You could say they... cut corners...

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loud tiger
terse rock
# dim veldt I should *never* get my hopes up

I have voices of AmazingSully in my head that saying "keeEEEEeeeep expectations LOOOOWWW! ALWAYS!". So it aint be different, that im going to fanatically correct you, and say that you should never have high hopes with updates, and that patch is going to be released when its ready

dreamy crane
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crashes when launching with debug, what should I do?

broken granite
broken granite
rapid cloud
glad cliff
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I miss Nasko

lime dagger
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(if that's not from 6600, 6880, drop me them co-ords so I can inform the mapping team 🍻 )

obsidian ruin
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I am pretty sure the original image is from an older build.

rough saffron
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Yeah it's from the unofficial map and it hasn't been updated since 42.11. I was too lazy to check in-game to see if it was fixed already since it has been overlooked for over 11 updates lol

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Still technically relevant since it was fixed in 42.12.0 (or .12.1?)!

rough saffron
safe hearth
south groveBOT
zealous orbit
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I NEED LEVEL 5

safe hearth
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I vote that sawing off a shotgun barrel should give you an iron pipe, all in favour?

broken granite
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nah

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a pipe should be atleast like a foot

sly crane
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hi

fossil palm
scenic bramble
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Brandenburg getting hit by tornado months before the outbreak

safe hearth
broken granite
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XD

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Well it should give like 1 unusable metal that can be formed with metalworking i guess

safe hearth
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yeah metal scrap good call

vital falcon
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Why are none of the food mods working?

floral sinew
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That is a question best asked to the modders.

lime dagger
dim veldt
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alright boys, we are 24 hours closer to 42.12.2

fossil palm
clear cloak
rough saffron
clear cloak
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oh thats mb

safe hearth
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rngjesus is with me I just found two M14s in one random bedroom, one in a gun case with two mags, a case of 308 and a 2x scope lol

safe hearth
fossil palm
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lol

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ones for spam mail obviously

safe hearth
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I found a gen mag in his bonus box once so im loathe to point it out

fossil palm
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ahahha

old bough
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I really wish this hits stable soon

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I need my fix

loud tiger
sick bone
lime dagger
scenic bramble
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looted the riverside post office and found most of the good recipe magazines including the how to use generators.

summer zinc
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(didn’t want to start any long or forever game while waiting)

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(And I didn’t expect to wait this long for a shove fix sadCat)

glad cliff
summer zinc
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I think that’s the opposite of a short game snig Especially since now the hotfix can only be (dozens of) hours away, right?

safe hearth
fossil palm
safe hearth
fossil palm
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lol, how small are you that you fit inthere?

loud tiger
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🤭

dim veldt
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it's ridiculous how many of the games I play that have blacksmithing

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I've got issues

lime dagger
loud tiger
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I have heard control is good, I have it on epic (free) but I have yet to touch it

summer zinc
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Yeah, Control also has a lot of Alan Wake (1) references. With the AWE DLC even more so

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It’s all one big universe

loud tiger
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That is super cool, I didn't realize it was in the same universe

lime dagger
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It's essentially SCP : The Game

safe hearth
stark geyser
loud tiger
stark geyser
dim veldt
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🤔

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(don't answer that)

loud tiger
loud tiger
summer zinc
stark geyser
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I got Alan Wake 2 with a GPU purchase but I never played it, gave it to wife instead, fun to discover what kind of finnish devilry the game contains

dim veldt
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imagine a Project Lapland mod where you're up in the arctic circle in a little wooden hut and pressing 'Q' makes you yell "PERKELE!"

summer zinc
stark geyser
stark geyser
dim veldt
stark geyser
# dim veldt gotta get your skis and mosin-nagant

last time I had that kind of moment was in PZ when I broke my legs in the MP lag situation, spent a month reading books on a rooftop, sniped zeds that approached a friend looting things around the base

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of course cursing too because I was effectively immobile

loud tiger
stark geyser
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looting LV mall in B41 was pretty funny when legs broken, too...was casually climbing few stories to the rooftop base when you could ignore weight and other climbing limits

loud tiger
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😂

vale spear
noble vessel
sour oar
ember schooner
#

I used to make fun of people who constantly came here begging for updates, etc., but please, from one software engineer to another:

just a suggestion, but one you should genuinely consider:
We have reduced dev diaries, we have reduced information about timing. Every dev diary is just a list of patch notes, whereas the pre-beta dev diaries would at least give personal opinion estimates on timing.

internally come up with an estimate for how long it will take MP to be released, multiply it by 2 or 3, and tell us that number. That way, if it is released earlier, we will be happy, and otherwise our expectations will be appropriately set.

I do in fact know that being a desperate fan is kind of a meme in this channel, but i have largely held off on critiques or comments, with a "let them cook" philosophy. but the truth is that even at my SE job we would never get away with this level of customer feedback, especially w/ so many people who are so genuinely interested in what you're doing and really want to see you succeed.

at least show us what percentage through your planned work you are. for instance, is animals 100% MP ready, but crafting is holding things back? Knowing this, in the format you so often let us know in (the dev diaries) prior to the 42 beta release, would be phenomenal (lets except unplanned additional work for now - how many things have you tackled that are REQUIRED for MVP public release? and how big of a scope does the unplanned, still to-do work have?) . I previously could not imagine a world where we got to the end of 2025 and still didnt have build 42 in MP - but as i have absolutely no awareness of where you guys are at in this process, i have truly no clue when you expect to deliver it now. 2026? 7? 8?. Not trying to be petty or ignorant, I know how much work you guys put in and how much all of the fans fail to understand how both the industry and also you guys specifically agree to work - and fwiw, I really respect and appreciate your business model.

Long and the short of it is, I've gone from feeling like i have an idea when something is coming to absolutely no context whatsoever. the only reason im here now is because i randomly checked in. and punishing your project-long fans by saying, "check back in 6 months" or "we dont do life/death pressure here at indie store" - a dev diary or a progress update should never be a life/death pressure, and i do not understand how it has become that.

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i know this will seem like unsolicited advice to all of you and you'll probably be bullshit or hear "more of the same" - but i think there is a maybe 30-minute-effort update commitment you could make at LEAST once a month that would remedy a LOT of these issues

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if the dev diaries are a lot of work, do a 2 paragraph summary on where things are at and how they're moving along

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this lack of information during the beta period is really strange to experience, when it was a birds-eye analysis on total progress on a monthly basis prior to the b42 beta sp release

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I know you guys are making art, but it really is also a business - and i would happily pay a business monthly subscription just to get these insights

fossil palm
ember schooner
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bummer. yeah, i understand why they aren't open to feedback. I just think even a little would go a long way

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hope my comments werent taken in a negative or whiny way, I really do simply want a small update

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its been 10 months since we got a progress update and thats pretty frustrating, even for ppl who are performing beta testing and submitting bugs.

fossil palm
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Its not that theyre not open to feedback, nah youre fine no worries!

ember schooner
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i am roughly familiar w the community drama, but there is some valid feedback among all the slop. I know indie stone had an interaction with the fans before where people became extremely overly invested in a given release date. Fine, but any vague progress update would be nice. its almost 2026

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the last progress update provided was 2024

fossil palm
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I think if you scroll up a bit there was some discussion that mp is pretty much the last thing before stable, while still getting updates inbetween ,i prolly worded it wrong lol

ember schooner
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fair. thanks for that.

fossil palm
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And blog posts i think they said will return laters for sure, just dunno when

ember schooner
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Later as in, after b42

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I dont see them resuming them before release

fossil palm
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Maybe once stable or close to it or something

ember schooner
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I think overall this is likely a tradeoff between avoiding getting abused by idiot gamers when you're even 1 day off from your intended or projected release, and actually having the attention to your dev cycle pay off for the loyal and genuine fans you have

noble vessel
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i have asked that exact question before, thats the answer i got

ember schooner
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ty for the context!

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im sure im being generally unfair and inconsiderate, if i know anything abt engineering :D Im sure i dont fully understand everything about the nuances here.

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but i dont think im wrong in saying that indie stone has largely backed off of providing progress updates because shitty gamers have made those early predictions hell for them

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and i wish the solution didnt have to come at the expense of getting that reasonable amt of information from an EA title during development for the genuine fans

fossil palm
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Yeah it sucks, i see it with a lot of games much anymore. But no worries its fine to ask here in these discussions

ember schooner
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it doesnt rly make me want to be a good beta player, and submitting bugs and all that, cuz it feels like when will this ever end

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totally, thanks :)

ember schooner
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I would say MOST ea games are updated at least once a quarter with a user-friendly update post

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or they die completely

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so it seems a lil outdated

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the communication model, i mean

fossil palm
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I see it the most with games that seem to be pretty popular and blew up unexpectdly like phasmo and valheim, think one of them used to do etas and stopped lol

ember schooner
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To Valheim's credit, they've generally made their release/update cycle pretty tolerable - they announce an update, work on it for 4-ish more months, then release it, 1 dev diary per update total, and still releasing every 8-12 ish

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same with enshrouded & going medieval

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but i did see there was a ton of really, really shitty customer behavior about timelines like this in indie stone's past. I get it. really i do

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just sucks

noble vessel
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I'm pretty sure there's some issues with people being spoiled by most EA using engine readily available and having a very streamlined process to add new things

ember schooner
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👍 that makes sense. Its a much older game and isnt built in like, freakin unity or whatever. very much has its own engine

noble vessel
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I've been using Java for some fairly basic minecraft modding and i can see why there aren't that many games using it...

ember schooner
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hahahaha, java is the WORST

noble vessel
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the only other big game using java is minecraft and i think the studios a few magnitudes bigger lol

ember schooner
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I was educated in java and it's my nemesis

noble vessel
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yeah... i started with PHP and JS, so I'm used to horrendous

ember schooner
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I write in ruby these days. but love the lua API in PZ

noble vessel
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but java is a special place in hell

ember schooner
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truly. Strongly object oriented and strongly typed is the creation of people who were previously writing gameboy animations in assembly code

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but they went way too far

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its so verbose today

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and bugs arent as clear as youd think

noble vessel
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half the time i have to deal with stacktrace i ask my used coffeegrounds

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and i really dont like gradle

ember schooner
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gradle can eat a dick

noble vessel
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I dont know out of which circle of hell it comes but i want it to return

ember schooner
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go back to the shadows

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honestly, there are very few package/dependency managers that i wholly back

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but it gets a hell of a lot better than gradle. id put gradle at the same rank as webpack

noble vessel
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tried using it earlier via powershell/cmd didnt work, just ran for 2 hours doing nothing without any logging, told IntellJ to do the data generation and it suddenly worked

ember schooner
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fuck that noise

noble vessel
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what do you want from me, gradle catscream

ember schooner
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ah, jetbrains saving ur ass

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i miss rubymine so much

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im using cursor today

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but vs code is trash compared to jetbrains products imo

noble vessel
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i generally use VS for non-langauge specific or very niche languages like SQF

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but switched to dedicated IDEs for languages i know require a certain set of dev tools like java, but I am very glad i dont do this professionally

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just being able to walk away from a project when I dont wanna deal with the shit a langauge is giving me is very freeing

ember schooner
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LOL

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What do you do professionally

noble vessel
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currently on a break/rehab but was a medic for some years

ember schooner
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congratulations!!

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on sobriety

noble vessel
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oh, not drug rehab, just general health rehab

ember schooner
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congratulations about taking the time and care to attend to your health! 😂

noble vessel
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my body is not exactly the healthiest so i had to take 2 years out from everything to get treatment Kek

ember schooner
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glad you've gotten treatment ❤️

I love my job, i wouldnt have it any other way. I love solving problems for a job, my parents worked nights at the hospital, but yeah, theres an aspect of both medic/programming careers where it benefits you to slow down, make a plan, think logically, but also be able to react to new information in the moment appropriately

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my dad a respiratory therapist always said "slow down, be like water"

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"more gets done in the unit if nobody panics, even if it seems like we're working slow"

noble vessel
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my biggest gripe about programming is that i just don't have the creativity to design, if i have a clear goal set up and know the steps to get there i can generally reach it, but if you'd ask me to design a system from ground up I'd probably have to run

ember schooner
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data model design or UX design?

noble vessel
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it very often starts with even coming up with the goal itself

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I just dare to assume thats something a proper programming course could fix, but finding time when I mainly code stuff that has been done a hundred times that i can see, understand and learn form is a tad overkill

ember schooner
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ahhhh i see

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i have a few solid ideas actually but just need some buy in lmao

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I think usually w/ side projects it NEEDs to be something I want to use

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if im not the QA for it cuz i dont care about the features, then itll never work out

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have to make it for myself first

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so yeah, i guess answering one of those qs for yourself helps for me

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that being said, im a backend engineer

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so "design" --- i dont get too worked up about presentation

noble vessel
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yeah, I have had rough ideas for games before, but actually finding the passion to come up with a proper concept is what i struggle with

ember schooner
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but backend systems certainly have design as well

noble vessel
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kind of like a puzzle thats missing pieces, which you dont really get in medical, most of the times its pretty easy to figure out whats wrong with another human

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or atleast to the extend i am usually involved, everything after me is someone elses problem to deal with

ember schooner
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"The computer will always do EXACTLY what you tell it to. It's misunderstanding what you are telling it that is your issue"

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yeah i think that translation is a puzzle in of itself

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whether or not medical issues are easy to diagnose, there is an extra layer of misunderstanding and separation with computers

noble vessel
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yeah and computers generally dont scream at me when i do something wrong unless it's really wrong

ember schooner
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lmao very true there is no humanity with the disagreements i have with my interpreter

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I did ask cursor to call me "bro" the other day in my user rules, but i think it made it lazy

noble vessel
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the hate i harbor for java and its setup and issues is something not healthy

ember schooner
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I have worked in this industry for 9 years, studied for 12, and I can tell you with complete confidence that java is truly a pain in the ass

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it has VERY LIMITED benefits over python, ruby or even node imo

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the cross-os graphic rendering engine?

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i guess?

noble vessel
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i was very glad seeing that i dont have to deal with java when it came to zomboids dedicated because it all came packaged in a reasonable working format

ember schooner
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the java VM itself, could be helpful in specific cases

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Lua is soooo nice

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and even the non lua code is sensible

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think its C#, i was mostly just playing around with the lua service

noble vessel
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i do quite like the recipe script zomboid uses

ember schooner
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havent looked recently, do you mean the new recipes? how has that been working?

noble vessel
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very simple and neat to understand

ember schooner
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Honestly, all my complaints earlier but i should just read the dang code

noble vessel
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it kind of feels like debloated json, if that makes sense?

ember schooner
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ok i say "even node" but, realistically some favoritism there

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probably "even ruby" is more valid

noble vessel
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god, i dont know if you have worked with minecraft recent system, i appreciate making modding easier

ember schooner
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wait youre not telling me that PZ is on java right?

noble vessel
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it is

ember schooner
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holy shit lmao

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i thought it was C#

noble vessel
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zomboid is a mixture of java, lua and that crafting script

ember schooner
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good christ

noble vessel
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workshop stuff generally modifies the lua code

ember schooner
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yeah, i like lua for their modding API

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but its def not like, feature parity with the base functionality

noble vessel
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its surprisingly indepth what you can do to the modding api

ember schooner
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and nah, i mostly make paradox game mods, so totally different

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yeah, they put a lot of work into the lua api!!!

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i totally stan it

noble vessel
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i dont even want to imagine how much work went into it

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its effectively customizable to a level minecraft is and b42 is just making that even more accesiable with the new crafting capabilities

ember schooner
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i was rly excited reading about the new like, vending machine interfaces, and how you could customize what this interface for X object looked like, kinda like the mini interface for vehicle maintenance is in 41 - I remember the dev diary for that was fascinating, at the time they implied modders would be able to leverage all of that customization in the GUI

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and thats clear in the new crafting interfaces as well

noble vessel
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yeah, i was jumping in circles for joy when they showed of the possible automation with the new system

ember schooner
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❤️ if you remember where that was, id love to reread

noble vessel
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you could find some pretty barebones testing code still in the code when b42 released but it wasnt able to be used (atleast i couldnt get it to work, because i assume the lua bits were missing)

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but it looked really promising

ember schooner
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Thank you <3

molten apex
novel lodge
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👁️

barren vessel
# ember schooner I used to make fun of people who constantly came here begging for updates, etc.,...

Hey, I just wanted to respond because you've put so much effort into this, well beyond a simple "MP When?", and it's pretty obvious you're reaching out with good intentions. As Puppers mentioned, ETAs and things that can infer ETAs are completely off the table going forward. Prior to B42 unstable released Lemmy made an offhand comment that "if it's not available by summer then something went seriously wrong" (not an exact quote). Well something did go seriously wrong, and the response from the community was... well extremely disappointing. This was after we had already instituted our "no ETAs" policy for similar issues as well, so yeah, not even vague mentions anymore.

I absolutely get the frustration of wanting stable and MP to release. I was a fan of the game long before I came to work for TIS and development speed was always my number 1 gripe as well. After going behind the scenes though I've realised just how complicated this game really is, and just how much development actually goes into it. TIS have a strict "no crunch" policy, we believe strongly in treating our team right, which absolutely contributes to slower development (though I'd argue it makes up time and quality in talent retention), but the largest contributing factor to the slow development is just how massive the game is under the hood. You can actually see every commit that goes in here https://steamdb.info/app/108600/history/ (you'll even see commits going in on weekends and holidays because the team is so invested in this game).

So Thursdoids, I'm right there with you. I want them back too, I loved reading them every week, gave me a lot of insights into the team and the development process. The problem with Thursdoids is they take a lot of work, and require input from a lot of people. People who at the moment really need to be focusing on their work. As you know context switching sucks as a developer and slows you down a lot. So with the faster release cycle we've temporarily paused them.

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Discord's character limit cut me off there 😛

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They will return as soon as we get a handle on things and things aren't as urgent, but I think at the moment the tradeoff is right where we need to focus on getting B42 stable as quickly as possible. As I had mentioned in a much earlier post that was shared, we have been discussing when to bring them back, and as soon as we feel the benefits outweigh the costs they will be.

safe hearth
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Appreciate the reasonable response as always!

stark geyser
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praise the holy post

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thats what majority will see and understand

terse rock
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I see "B42 stable", and i say "when?". Its just that simple

stark geyser
terse rock
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Yeah!

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MP when?

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I just see AmazingSully rolling eyes XD

stark geyser
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wakes him up properly, that

terse rock
barren vessel
loud tiger
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spiffo ❤️

silent jolt
molten apex
fallen canyon
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will we be allowed to pick adrenaline junkie and cowardly/agoraphobic in b42

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please let me become the flash i beg of you

neon igloo
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Dawg chill

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toxic drift
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I suggest we roll back an update just because

dire wave
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Let go back to alpha

toxic drift
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Based

ember schooner
# barren vessel Hey, I just wanted to respond because you've put so much effort into this, well ...

Hey! Thanks so much for the response, and totally hear you on bad past experiences with ETA. that being said, I think there are ways you could give a "progress" metric that is detatched from date-based ETAs. And I want to pause for a sec and say, I truly really believe in your no-crunch policy; if i were starting a business this would be a 100% guarantee for me. I would sacrifice pretty much everything else in order to keep my employees happy and with a good W/L balance, so I want to clarify I'm in no way critiquing that policy.

But I believe there is a vast expanse between "Thursdoid EVERY week", "giving a concrete date on which things will release"; and "just providing a brief birds eye on progress, without time constraints", weekly thursdoid or exact dates are not the ask, and we've been over why - but as i said, a couple paragraphs or even a todo list (with unsized work, no indicators of timeboxing or estimates based on time in any way) and just showing us,

  1. here are the things that we plan for stable,
  2. here are the things we've released since unstable, and
  3. here are the things we have yet to do in order to reach stable

I think an update of that nature would be appropriate, even if it were short - its pretty wild that the steam page has gone since ~January without a developer post

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of course i do miss thursdoid (who wouldnt!), but i want to be really clear that thursdoid is not at all what I want to propose or what i expect from you; I fully understand how much work it is to generate something as detailed and thoughtful as the thursdoid posts, and i would actually PREFER that the engineers keep cooking rather than wasting time writing blog posts!

But, even a todo list would be a tangible step up - I've seen a lot of pretty technical patch notes that 1) aren't super user friendly, 2) are hard to get an idea of whats being updated (even as a dev), and 2) on what items in the pre-release todo a given patch tackles (given that there is no pre-release todo, but this would be a really cool way to connect what these patches mean).

I remember that the company was planning a pretty substantial crafting rework beyond what was released in unstable - is that underway? has it made progress? even knowing these kinds of surface facts seem impossible

Great example was Going Medieval's checklist, which took years to fill out and items were not at all equally portioned out, but it was, roughly, a list of things in between them and release. I am missing that for this unstable -> stable period.

(https://shared.fastly.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/1029780/extras/ab95a07e706d0cfddfd1f4cf1a9ed809.avif?t=1759135946)

toxic drift
dire wave
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I been with in multiple game community and I will say pz community is the most inpatient i have ever seen. It actually sad I see people more chill with a triple A game posting a 30 dollar dlc that basically add 3 things and break the game cough sim 4 cough this is a indie studio they don't have 500 people.

barren vessel
# ember schooner Hey! Thanks so much for the response, and totally hear you on bad past experienc...

The problem with giving progress updates in this way is that people then use it to estimate an ETA, and then get upset when the ETA they estimated isn't hit. We've been here before, and tried so many different things. I can't tell you the number of times I am in here trying to curb expectations because people keep coming in and saying "oh it's been X days/weeks/months, new update is coming around the corner".

And then there is a massive misunderstanding of how much work things take (which is true across all of software development). Some features that people think are complex take very little time to implement, and sometimes features that people think are simple take ages. The difference is when a webdev doesn't meet an estimate they don't have to deal with death threats and public attacks.

Currently what we're doing is the lesser of evils. There's a lot we don't like about it too, but of all the things we've tried, this is the least painful. I get that everyone wants to know when it's going to release, hell, we do too. But it's so much better for us to just focus on the quality, and let the rest come.

ember schooner
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I hear you, totally get that you are avoiding people being stupid, and you're probably doing a great job, genuinely. I do hope you guys are able to find a better middle ground, it is quite concerning from a bystander perspective when an unstable beta has lasted nearly a full year without a 1-2 paragraph progress update - but I know that whatever you guys release (and whenever!) it will be awesome :)

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and definitely 1000 on people making assumptions about how much work something "sounds" like :)

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I will check back in a year and see how things are going. Thanks for the heart to heart, and ill homerdisappear

barren vessel
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Just know, we do post updates to the Steam store page every update. So when it does go stable you'll know.

ember schooner
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sorry, yes, I meant just kind of an update vs. patch notes to dig through, they can be hard to grok. even a patch notes summary would go a long way :)

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and I will keep all concievable eyes peeled eyeses

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Again, thanks for the attn! its comforting to hear from yall!

summer zinc
barren vessel
toxic drift
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Why not shrimply club them to death?

barren vessel
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sadly my invention of a club that is connected to PCs around the world has not caught on commercially

toxic drift
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Get the modders on it, stat

summer zinc
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It’s not worth it if it causes stress

dim veldt
summer zinc
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In the next (some/dozens/hundreds/thousands/millions) hours

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I am pretty confident I am right

dim veldt
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I shall build a rocket, go into orbit, and use time dilation to speed up time so that when I come back to the surface of the earth the bug has been fixed

summer zinc
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You can buy the new makeship products to sweeten the wait time

dim veldt
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The only problem is that if I shove the rocket then I will get bit

fossil palm
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THERES HOODIES?!

molten apex
fossil palm
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Best dya ever!!!!

molten apex
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It will only get better if they shove out the shove bug fix patch

vital falcon
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why do i have bat in hand?

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i even dont have it in inventory

dim veldt
molten apex
dim veldt
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so.... yeah. Find something else to do in the meantime lol

molten apex
dim veldt
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it sucks because the first hotfix got my hopes up too

molten apex
dim veldt
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so I was really hoping this would be out by the time I finished it

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but yes we need more gifs

molten apex
molten apex
dim veldt
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cuz in undergrad I did a computer engineering degree

dim veldt
fossil palm
dim veldt
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it is ;-;

molten apex
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Oh nice! Physics classes must be hard, I didn’t really like them in school either. I actually wanted to study computer science too, but I got two minded and ended up choosing medicine 😬
English isn’t my first language, so sorry for replying slowly 😅

dim veldt
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what's your native language?

molten apex
dim veldt
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ohohhh interesting

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farsi ra sohbat mikonid or something like that

molten apex
molten apex
dim veldt
molten apex
dim veldt
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right

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farsi tajik and dari are the main varieties of persian but I'm pr etty sure they can all understand each other

molten apex
molten apex
# dim veldt right

Is english your first language or i guess your first language is spanish maybe?😅

dim veldt
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so I started out monolingual English but am now fluent enough in Spanish to hold conversations (though I don't get to practice enough so it's fading away until I pirate more Mexican dramas)

scenic bramble
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nice

dim veldt
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I know some Portuguese too from my Minecraft days

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and I've burnt out on a bunch of other languages

molten apex
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Wow thats very nice , i always liked to learn spanish but never had any use or motivation for learning it , for now i think i should work on my English and then maybe go for learning Arabic,
I think the real motivation for learning other languages is where u live so and the day to day need of conversations

dim veldt
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also there's like 5 throat sounds that you have to distinguish

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and even just speaking MSA isn't enough if you want to talk to regular speakers

molten apex
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Nice so u already tried to learn it, yeah it also changes alot in terms of words used for male or female , its a really complicated and hard language got to accept but for me its really need and useful bcz of my religion

dim veldt
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makes sense. Quranic Arabic will be even more difficult lol

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I don' t envy you

molten apex
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I’m sad to say this, but I have to go. I’m in the middle of having dinner, but it was really delightful talking to you manspiffo

dim veldt
molten apex
dim veldt
vital falcon
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what is dome kiln?

dim veldt
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which you need to convert iron to steel

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which you need for end-game weapons and armor

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which will not protect you from the shove bug

toxic drift
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It eats my woodlands

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I crave a level 4 metalworking mace

loud tiger
safe hearth
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Did update happen today

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Guess not if I’m posting here lmao

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Nevermind.gif

loud tiger
wide herald
uncut tundra
slate solstice
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add the hoodie 2 the lootpool drunk

dim veldt
loud tiger
summer zinc
dim veldt
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school, tool shop, book store, dozens of homes and garages, etc.

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sprinters especially make the bug unmanageable because it's very easy for them to get within the range threshold to trigger the bug

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and I don't want to play without them

fossil palm
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i tried 1% sprinters the other day , can def see that push bug being annoying with any amount of sprinters no

dim veldt
safe hearth
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and many of those items don't spawn in just normal homes

safe hearth
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Hahaha I know I am being facetious

dim veldt
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oh sorry xd

safe hearth
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The shove but is in our minds!!

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Er bug

dim veldt
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i wanna shove but

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but that's expensive so I shove bug instead

fossil palm
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lol

summer zinc
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I was thinking about starting a new run, and debug-spawning me one or two crowbars and use them until shove bug is fixed

fossil palm
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shove butt

dim veldt
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no need to debug spawn crowbars, I find them around enough

summer zinc
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But even with crowbars my playstyle is very shove-based

dim veldt
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oh and if you're multi-shoving then you're especially cooked

sly crane
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

dim veldt
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that reduces FPS and each individual zombie could get through

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I multishove a lot so... yeah. Combine with sprinters and now you can sorta see why I died to the bug on the very first day of 42.12.

sly crane
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It's been several days since I played Project Zomboid, and I'm already feeling the side effects

dim veldt
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this is going to sound pathetic but last night I literally dreamed about this game

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I have issues

fossil palm
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that isnt pathetic lol dont be mean to yourself

sly crane
dim veldt
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I'm not being mean to myself, the shove bug is

fossil palm
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lol

dim veldt
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I know I'm cooked because even vintage story isn't scratching the itch anymore

vale spear
# vale spear please consider making a more modern menu, similar to the ones in this post!! h...

Hey, everyone!
I made a suggestion about this but I was interested in hearing how everyone would feel about this. I’ve been playing Project Zomboid for a long time, and while I love how deep and immersive the game feels, I think the menu and character UI and such should receive some sort of update. We've seen changes to gameplay, graphics, and even UI in-game coming in B42, so I believe it would be nice to receive an update or options to match the coming in B42.

Menu & Game UI Options
I personally would love to see more flexibility for the main menu and in-game UI, with of course the classic, style, and a more modern and softer style (matching that seen in the menus below).
This could apply to the game's menu UI and the menus in game. Along with this, the option between selecting your own colours, images or GIFs as the menu background without needing to install mods. Another menu option could include a dynamic menu with a 3D model of your last played character, slowly moving or following after your mouse. I personally feel as though that would be so cool!

A few options such as these would make the game feel much more personal and visually fresh, while still allowing fans of the classic look to keep it as-is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/17snamk/im_recreating_the_ui_from_pz_just_for_fun_now_im/

Reddit
From the projectzomboid community on Reddit: I'm recreating the UI ...

Explore this post and more from the projectzomboid community

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Character Customization Improvements
I would like to see a few options or changes in character customization, such an option between the classic customization and this where instead of a small character image there could be a dynamic character in the center of the menu, in a 3D environment (such as a dimly lit room, forest, garage, camp with other survivors in the background, one of the spawn locations, etc), with options for name, body, hair, etc on the left and clothing options on the right. Accessories, tops, bottoms, etc are placed into sections when all clothing is unlocked so things like glasses are closer to hats and rings.

It would also be nice to see hairstyle and clothing/accessory options and more displayed with images or icons in a grid instead of a list for those who have this option selected. To keep the grim and post apocalyptic feeling in the customization menu, hovering over these options could display a bloodied, dirtied, torn or broken variant of it.

I would love to see more idle animations while customizing your character, such as loading a gun magazine, turning their head after hearing a branch snap, fighting off a zombie, or something (these are just off the top of my head.) It could also be cool to turn these animations or select a static pose to take a photo of your character in whichever environment you selected (maybe a pose of them sneaking, or if you selected the campground, talking with another survivor, sitting on a tree stump, etc)

These UI elements would be more visually appealing and give a better idea of how your character looks.

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Yes, Project Zomboid UI is functional and does fit the style of PZ, but to some people it feels a bit dated and retro. Adding customization options players could tailor their experience and keep things visually engaging as the game evolves into B42 and beyond. I personally would love to see some changes to the trait menu as well to look more modern, similar to the two attached images, such as maybe scrolling through the occupation icons on the top (hovering over them will provide a description of it) with the positive and negative traits on the left & right with the middle displaying the character skills/stats. But, how does everyone else feel? Would you guys appreciate something like this or is it an unnecessary change? Excited to hear from everyone!

dim veldt
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wow that thread is 2 years old, you've been campaigning for a while

vale spear
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i hate the menu and character customization screens

fossil palm
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I think they have plans to redo the ui eventually

vale spear
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the background art is nice but mainly for the character customization i wish they took a more sims approach.. scrolling through various outfits and hairstyles is bothersome

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and if the character was actually displayed in a 3d scene like the sims 🔥

sly crane
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Man, I REALLY liked it

vale spear
fossil palm
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i miss the old thingier

vale spear
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someone did mention that there was a situation where they changed it but people stated it looked like they used ai so they reverted it,

vale spear
dim veldt
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just like how they redid a lot of things in B42

vale spear
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if all they did was changed how the buttons & background looked at least but i could very well be wrong