#42.11.0 Unstable Released

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void kraken
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I use cool magic so since now exactly at this second you will never find generators

dense lily
void kraken
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Nevermind

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Can you give me some time to think on my next spell? Thank you

narrow rampart
dense lily
dense lily
rugged lotus
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Are you deadass?

fallen leaf
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Bannerlord dropped 1.3.0 yesterday, so zomboid must drop 42.12 today. It is the law!

harsh quiver
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I need to put more time into that game

vestal shard
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then do

left valve
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i am just waiting for kingsmaker

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just because its silly as hell

merry barn
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wherrs alien isolation 2

harsh quiver
left valve
harsh quiver
left valve
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do i need to say more

merry barn
harsh quiver
vestal shard
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i really dont stick with a lot of games

harsh quiver
sharp granite
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pretty much MMOs, Guild Wars 2 for me at this moment. Maybe add some Civ 6 to the mix when I want to kill without violence

harsh quiver
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I like mmos! I was playing WoW SoD but they killed it. I haven't played GW2 in forever.

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I am a sucker for holy trinity because I love tanking drunk

edgy ridge
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The regulars in discussion threads should rent out a server when MP comes out and let it be the most short lived, dysfunctional, argumentative server to ever grace PZ

merry barn
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LOL

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id run you over billy

edgy ridge
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I'd pipe bomb your house Puppers don't think I'd turn fire off

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If anyone's actually interested in that I don't mind renting out a 12 man for a week or so and see how it goes

warm meteor
merry barn
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😆

harsh quiver
waxen ferry
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.03

narrow rampart
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lowkey after watching the 42.12 tester video im surprised it didnt drop today, but i am excited for the QoL i saw

terse fog
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Imagine finding zombie bodies in cars, it will finally happen

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and something like bow and arrow will probably arrive in this update, like a surprise like in ragdolls

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Okay, maybe it's not archery, but it could be something surprising

formal niche
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something surprising such as a 0.001% chance for an orange raccoon to spawn in the forest on certain times of the day

merry barn
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a pig named penisham

broken plover
ocean willow
spare junco
ocean idol
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Yall been waiting for that patch for so long u started tweaking and fantasizing about stuff thats not gonna come

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At this point we're making 42.12 an urban legend

edgy ridge
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They will claim .12 to be a 'smaller update due to the majority of the team working on other things' and it'll have what we've seen and nothing else

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Never make things out to be more than they are anymore

ocean idol
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Agreed.

brazen jewel
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Fire bombs use it, and are engineer specific

cyan drum
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I hope they add the new sources of metal, iron blooms or whatever, SOMETHING other than cheesing foraging respawns.

So far the ONLY method of farming metal out in the wilderness is fishing out tin cans and smelting those.

I would also like to be able to smelt the railroad tracks because they've just been looking so shiny around my base as a useless prop.

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Oh and smelting the other type of cans, soda cans.

crystal roost
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I hope they add Thursdoids 😄

agile meteor
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Guys we got Silksong. Do you really want 42.12? Like think about it, what else is there to expect, Half Life 3? And what if they release HL3? What will we do? Life will be meaningless.

brazen jewel
fallen leaf
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We even got a bannerlord update before 42.12

last osprey
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do you feel it

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one thursday soon

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Something is coming

karmic nacelle
storm pebble
lime sky
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Roses are red.
Birds ain't real.
Neither is the update.
My wounds will never heal.

Everyday I come out of my cave.
Passing by the update grave.
I tell myself to be brave.
But who am I kidding the updates ain't real.

This is how I die.
Scream into the void and cry.
A nothing burger and an empty pie.
But the update still isn't real.

Sometimes I hear a rumor.
Is it the update or my brain tumor?
A faint promise or dry humor?
Seriously where the fuck is the update?

Roses become pale as the moon.
Birds begin to carry a tune.
I wish to wait more but it's already noon.
The update is but an abstract concept in my head.

A gravestone waves. I wave back...
There is something written on it...
"42.12."

quaint dragon
agile meteor
fallen leaf
spare junco
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Not today

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4 october

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2 months after 42.11

spring berry
tardy socket
brazen jewel
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12 years in the making

fallen leaf
# spare junco Not today

Its usually been 2-4 days after testers get to play a build, if it isn't this week ill eat a traffic cone

agile meteor
brazen jewel
agile meteor
fallen leaf
agile meteor
agile meteor
fallen leaf
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Devs dont make me eat a traffic cone pls

agile meteor
narrow rampart
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Btw for everyone asking about the 42.12 vid, just look it up on youtube, testers have streamed it

agile meteor
ocean willow
# agile meteor But still no MP?

There won't be any multiplayer until you stop looking. I let the developers know everytime you log in to discord and they have informed me that they delay multiplayer by 3 months everytime you click on the zomboid discord. Thems the rules I dont make em.

agile meteor
ocean willow
agile meteor
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No worries I will make then my smartphone unlocking process include the need to open the Zomboid Discord. And then I will go locking and Unlocking my Phone for a Month

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Also I will add the Zomboid Discord to my Smartwatch, as part of my wakup alarm, and integrate it into my neuralink so I click on the link as soon as I blink.

ocean willow
agile meteor
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I should accumilate about 500 clicks per hour that way. So the the Delay after a month should be 3652 months or 300 years.

ocean willow
agile meteor
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If i have to suffer. Everyone has to.

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No more. 2332 is now bucko.

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😈

ocean willow
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I will watch as this community descends deeper into madness

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I will enjoy every second of it

agile meteor
ocean willow
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Good enough for me

spare junco
ivory knot
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Combat & Weapons

Damage calculation has been reworked: hits now register correctly on body parts (e.g., headshots do proper damage).

Shotgun bug fixed: previously zombies dodged or projectiles disappeared — now all pellets hit correctly.

Long-range weapons can now have specific damage modifiers for different body parts.

Visual improvements: new muzzle flash effects.

Gameplay Improvements

Zombies’ bodies can be stored in car trunks/seats, with new animations.

Cigarettes can be smoked directly from the pack.

Food/drinks: double-click to open and consume automatically (quality of life).

Crafting/inventory: better search, item highlighting, quick-select with Shift/Ctrl, menus auto-close when moving.

VHS tapes and CDs now show “watched” or “listened” markers (previously only available via mods).

Better tooltips, colored bars for effects (stamina, vision, stress).

Lighting & Environment

Vision cone opacity slider added.

Better lighting: night and closed rooms now fully dark, light posts help more at dawn/dusk/night.

More destructible fences and tiles added.

Pathfinding & Movement

Characters can now auto-climb larger fences/walls if physically capable.

New Traits

Crafting-focused trait (“Craft” – costs 3 points, +30% XP for construction).

Cannot be combined with Fast/Slow Learner. Designed for players who only want to focus on base-building.

Balance & Systems

Zombie kills by vehicles now count towards kill stats.

Metabolism and calorie consumption rebalanced: less drain during normal activity, slightly more for intense actions.

Engineers now automatically learn generator recipes at lower electrical levels.

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Explosives rebalanced (damage vs. fire risk).

Farming and cooking got small buffs (more useful recipes, food values adjusted).

Audio & Visual
Lots of new sound effects (furniture, crafting, megaphones, animals, gunfire).

Pain sounds when scratching against trees.

NASCAR cars added in the world (especially on racing tracks).

UI & Quality of Life

Menus redesigned for console/Steam Deck compatibility (reducing right-click dependence).

Containers can be renamed.

Radial menus clearer with background text.

Recipes and crafting windows save size/position.

fallen leaf
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Where is this from?

ivory knot
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the aforementioned video

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translated from portugese

fallen leaf
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is that all of the notes or just what you could see haha

ivory knot
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transcri

fallen leaf
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cool thanks for sharing!

ivory knot
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transcribed* and then translated

spare junco
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Is this a good time for spam of "when patch"?

fallen leaf
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Lmao

dense lily
edgy ridge
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The speed track looks like someone ran out of ideas, so that would be cool to put in there

broken plover
tardy socket
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ADD MP and NPC

broken plover
patent edge
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I am glad I dont play MP.

edgy ridge
terse fog
patent edge
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I looted some Ice cream in PZ today lol

ocean willow
rugged lotus
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you gave us a hope

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a delusion

manic salmon
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Ok guys

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I know I was wrong for the past 3 weeks

tardy socket
manic salmon
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But update in 3 hours

edgy ridge
manic salmon
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Well I was right that I was wrong so

manic salmon
spring berry
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Anyone heard anything about a possible rework of the healt and aid system?

edgy ridge
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People be saying things to say things

manic salmon
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IM NOT INSANE WERE GETTING ANIMATED CARS I SWEAR

fallen leaf
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It makes sense to have animated cars with the nascar update lol

ocean willow
fallen leaf
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Id actually take that over animated cars

patent edge
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lol

fallen leaf
vestal shard
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yeah i assumed as much, the patch won't be that big

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being able to put corpses into cars is huge though

patent edge
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we need chubby zombies so they can move slower.

drifting mulch
spare junco
quaint dragon
vestal shard
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watch me get booed and stoned to death

patent edge
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needs elderly zombies in PZ rather than every zombie being a young adult

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elderly zombies with some dentures that can fall out of their mouth.

muted iris
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If we celebrate the pre-release of 42.12.0 with some cringy poems, I wanted the dev's cringy favorite submitted by us fans to be put at the bottom of the changelog, so we can enjoy some wonderful rollercoasters.

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AmazingSully's favorite cringy poems might have sentences with UwU in them.

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Soul Filcher's would be about enjoying BBQ with the most disgustingly tasty sauce.

lime sky
lime sky
muted iris
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Celebrate Project Zomboid with top-tier cringes.

lime sky
cyan drum
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Is it a bug or intentional that buildings without power (so all the set abandoned places even when the grid is still up) have functional outdoor sockets (outside lights)? It sounds like it COULD be intentional, it makes sense as a possibility irl, but I'm not sure for in-game.

patent edge
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note sure

manic salmon
fallen leaf
fallen leaf
broken plover
rugged lotus
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It's already 00:04 for me

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There will be NO update today

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Accept it.

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Deal with it.

cyan drum
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Moving rip clothing to the crafting menu is going to send people over the edge and I'm here for it lol

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People are going to completely gloss over the 'show crafting recipes' button and overreact

terse fog
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(6:13pm)

rugged lotus
terse fog
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there may still be an update

rugged lotus
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Too late

brazen jewel
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It'll be tomorrow or next week likely.

cyan drum
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All the UI mods are probably gonna break

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This is why I just get used to the vanilla UI lol

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Contrary to so many people's opinions, I like that they're finally removing so many right click options. It just sucks that it took long enough to where people got used to that bad system of right click everything and are stuck/stubborn in bad habbits.

quaint dragon
dusky laurel
patent edge
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lol

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people waiting for those PZ updates is like drug addicts needing that next fix.

cyan drum
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New infinite thread and rags method just dropped

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Sew Improvised Bandeau > Cut Sheet With Clothes (use the Bandeau) > Rip Sheet > Pick Thread (not all of the rags) > Repeat

patent edge
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lol

cyan drum
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It only works with the Bandeau and Footwraps, all the other imrpovised clothing doesn't work, so this was overlooked slightly

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Anyways, I need to use this to my advantage because wilderness means no renewable rags, hemp isn't abundant early enough to grind tailoring and for some reason rags vanish after removing patches.

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Oh and this also gives tailoring XP

patent edge
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ripping up skirts and dresses when I play as a male in PZ

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it would be nice we can rip up underwear.

cyan drum
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Yeah, it's weird that they removed it for socks at all when people were expecting more rippable clothing.

patent edge
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ripping up zombies clothes with holes just to get enough ripped sheets to make log walls

cyan drum
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Also, the rag to thread recipe HAS to be broken, because there's NO WAY 1 whole rag = 1/20th of a whole thread spool.

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Crafting twine results in the entire spool of twine, which is normal, but it doesn't work for thread.

broken plover
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NO UPDATES this month
FAKE NEWS

honest narwhal
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TIS release update today please 🙏

pine kindle
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?

cyan drum
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grape leaves are 50 calories each lol imagine that

merry barn
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Mmm grape leaves !!

narrow rampart
coarse flume
crude lagoon
vestal shard
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If literally everything is only transferred to the crafting menu then its going to become less intuitive

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One of the things i believe should stay in right click menus is the option to barricade the window/door

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That needs to be mpre accessible because you may find yourself in a situation where you cannot waste precious seconds

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Same for ripping clothing and such

ocean willow
cyan drum
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There's no way you guys are dying from not building barricades 1 second faster

vestal shard
ocean willow
ocean idol
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Omg guys just be patient. Its only been a month and a half since last patch. We need to give them more time. I say let them take atleast 6 mkre months before next patch aslong as its done right. Omg you guys are so childish I cant believe. The build has been out only for like 9 10 months guys thats not even a year just be patient fr fr

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I personally think we shpuld wait atleast another 2-3 years before the mp or any major patch comes out, just to make sure everything is working perfectly

sharp granite
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reminds me of ye olde runescape times from 20 years ago, if no update each month, people went mad

quaint dragon
half vessel
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guys pz mp update realease, yes or yes? (no fake news pls..)

tardy socket
half vessel
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oh sorry.. i was just asking if it was out..

tardy socket
spare junco
fallen leaf
ivory knot
prisma musk
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Rly? :v

fallen leaf
narrow rampart
# prisma musk Rly? :v

Patches have come out specifically on mondays and tuesdays, only hotfixes come out any other day, so likely they are trolling

nova crystal
soft lava
quaint dragon
fallen leaf
narrow rampart
soft lava
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And before you ask "so you're telling me there's no chance?"... also No.

fallen jolt
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WOW this confirms full quantum mechanics implementation in 42.12!11! the Schrödinger's patch

muted iris
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Time to put down the placeholder date.

Next patch update: 2025

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All of you who are not fans of TBD, shall be TBDed to TBD world

quaint dragon
last osprey
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....Two negatives make a postives

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dear god

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The math never lies

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IT MUST BE ALREADY OUT, HOW COULD WE HAVE BEEN SO STUPID!?!?

edgy ridge
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If patch doesn't come out tonight, then no patch till Monday

harsh quiver
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Poor Sully, we must be exhausting.

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spiffo ❤️

quaint dragon
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Sully is there a way that u release the next patchnote?

primal scroll
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Anyone know why there isn't a setting for how much RAM the game uses like there is for hosting a server?

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Like I just read a reddit post where somoene said the game only uses 3gb

broken plover
primal scroll
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Like I have 32GB so why only use 3? Especially when driving for example sometimes gets closer to a power point presentation than a fluid game?

cyan drum
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Speaking of reddit, B42.11 got unpinned from the community tab thingy

harsh quiver
primal scroll
harsh quiver
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Not sure to be honest! In theory all it is doing is increasing the amount of garbage collection before deletion, I don't know what TIGS current stance on it is but back in the day they said it was not needed on numerous occasions. Even recall them saying it as recent as B41 unstable? I have definitely seen a benefit from it personally though.

cyan drum
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What are the consequences of putting in a number too high or too low?

primal scroll
ivory knot
cyan drum
cyan drum
primal scroll
tribal aspen
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How to see when this thread was created?

cyan drum
# primal scroll wdym?

Tutorials describe what number YOU need to use by verbal wording, less tech illiterate people blaming the game for it crashing when they put the wrong number in. Instead, most of the blame and questions are directed to the YouTube video.

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It just feels like something they don't want to deal with, idk

primal scroll
cyan drum
primal scroll
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Making something worse because of stupid people is always a good idea as we all know

soft lava
primal scroll
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Besides there are already settings in game with warning attached so I don't understand the difference?

cyan drum
primal scroll
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By that logic cars shouldn't exist

cyan drum
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By that logic, cars DO exist. Have you seen street laws and limits? They're very strict compared to what we could have without stupid people

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Do not eat soap

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Do not eat poison

primal scroll
cyan drum
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Do no enter one way, the wrong way

primal scroll
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Wtf is that logic

cyan drum
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Street laws are deflated to meet the bottom denominator of people's intelligence

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So that logic is pretty safe

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Stop at line when light is red

primal scroll
cyan drum
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Yield to circle

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Watch for pedestrians

primal scroll
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I don't get your logic like... at all

cyan drum
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Street. Laws. Are. Made. To. Consider. The. Lowest. Denominator. Of. Human. Intelligence. That. Can. Still. Drive.

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Speed limits could be much higher if everyone had good decision making and common sense, but guess what

primal scroll
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I don't see the connection between that and the original argument but sure I guess

cyan drum
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The options are for the lowest denominator of stupid

fallen leaf
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this is the longest time between patches now, im in withdrawal

soft lava
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Do you guys think you're going to get any benefit from carrying on this conversation?

primal scroll
soft lava
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kill time I'll give you... the other two... well...

primal scroll
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You never know

soft lava
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think agree to disagree and thank yourselves for not wasting time that could be spent doing something more fulfilling

primal scroll
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Anyhow as you are already here, why isn't there a ingame option for changing RAM usage?

soft lava
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We don't do that here...

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Insulting people is not acceptable

cyan drum
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I'm smart enough to know this is rage bait, because no normal person would start a conversation with that

primal scroll
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Oh boy, here we go

soft lava
primal scroll
cyan drum
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Maybe if mods are enabled, an option should show up for ram

primal scroll
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And people already mentioned that it does obviously improve the performance quite a lot so it seems only logical to add it especially considering it's already there for private server hosting

soft lava
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I'm not sure what the limitations are. I just haven't looked into it. There's probably some limitations with the versions of libraries we are using, but it's just "is this problem big enough to spend the time to look into it", and the answer to that question is probably no for now

primal scroll
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Damn

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Would probably be useful looking into in the future considering the amount of stuff thats gonna get piled onto the game

soft lava
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Performance is something we regularly look at and evaluate though, but just "add more RAM" is something we'd rather avoid if possible, and focus more on optimising the code

primal scroll
soft lava
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yeah, but if you increase the game's requirements then people get angry as well

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ideally we want everyone within the game's recommended requirements to get a great experience

primal scroll
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It wouldn't increase the requirements tho. It would just allow people to up the performance if they have a better machine. Especially when they use a lot of mods

soft lava
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You're arguing for lifting the ceiling to fit the tree in the house, and sure, that works and there's nothing wrong with that, but I think lowering the floor is better

primal scroll
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I mean thats like saying you don't want to offer a "high" quality option in say cyberpunk because people with less powerfull machines will be jealous

primal scroll
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Having a option for more RAM doesn't mean you are forced to stop optimizing. It just means people with a lot of mods don't have to watch a powerpoint

soft lava
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But by doing so it's very easy to fall into the trap of "Oh just increase your RAM, we have more important things to focus on" since development is all about priorities. As I said "Is this a problem worth taking a developer off of some other feature to look in to?" At the moment, probably not.

primal scroll
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Hmmmm, I mean true? But it's already possible just less acessible

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Anyhow, I already increased the RAM usage so it's kinda whatever

soft lava
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Which actually works as an argument against doing it ironically, since a workaround exists. Thus it's less urgent.

primal scroll
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I give you less urgent. But I would say it should still be considered down the line

cyan drum
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I have the file pinned so it's easy to access anyways

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Just another thing to do manually, like backing up saves

primal scroll
soft lava
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And it may end up being looked into, but like I said, I have no idea what limitations exist, or how much work it would actually be. It's also possible the team already looked into it and it was too much work for too little benefit, I have no idea.

primal scroll
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Ah well, thanks for trying to clear that up tho

spring berry
spare junco
fallen leaf
vestal shard
broken plover
broken plover
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accept it finally - only your kids might have a chance to play 42.12 and beyond

fallen leaf
nova crystal
left valve
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either overflow or couldnt allocate heap size

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but you can change the ram in the ProjectZomboid64.bat in the steam folder

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just replace the default -Xmx3072m to your desired amount

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also, dont give java too much ram, otherwise it'll cause issues, java does not like having too much ram.

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to expand on sully's point earlier, that is really only needed if you run heavily modded games

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base game should run plenty fine with just the 3gb it allocates by default

left valve
broken plover
primal scroll
left valve
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you can easily rule out if its a mod or vanilla issue by turning all mods off and see if it still happens

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but usually stuttering with java games does come from the garbage collection that runs when it hits the ram limits, so in your case with increasing it might actually bring a benefit about

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Minecraft is probably the best example i can bring up for this with its mod packs of literally 250+ mods Kek

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you can technically also edit the .json file in the same folder, but i have had mixed results, so i usually just do both (which is effectively the same way you'd do it on a server)

lime sky
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Skedaddle skedooddle.
If my existence can be summarized by a moodle.
It will be all of them and non of them at once.
Because my lobotomy shuffles my needs and wants.

A question that concerns many a player.
Where on earth is XxPussySlayer69xX?
I can make a guess but I don't wish to be banned.
Unlike saying penis, poop and adrenal gland.

What was the subject again? I tend to forget.
Especially when I wait for long and fail to get.
A build?... A building? What was it again?
How long have I been here. What do I hope to gain?

I look around me, probably for the first time since I came here. I'm inside what looks like a giant box? There is a hole in one of the carton walls shaped like a door, with a sign that states "Build 42.12". Is that where I'm supposed to go? I get up, my legs shaking from hunger and cold. I hesitantly take a step inside, where else am I supposed to go anyway?
Inside I see things. Many things... Horses, crossbows, weird complex machines, zombie sex. But I can't quite tell if these are real things or a mere hallucination projected out of my desperate, overflowing mind. Perhaps the whole thing is a metaphor of Schrodinger's cat... All of these things existing and not existing in a realm of dopamine inducing mist of possibility. Am I the observer? The proverbial cat? Both? Or perhaps I'm nothing at all. A minuscule being unworthy of the great knowledge ahead... I scream as loud as I can. A figure peeks from above telling me to shut the fuck up and wait. I sit... I wait...

Time passes, days, then weeks then months...
Nothing happens. My stomach grunts.
The walls don't change, the sign don't change.
The hallucinations don't change...

I sit... I wait...

I sit...

I...

merry barn
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Dang that made me snort

cyan drum
sudden laurel
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Y’all are so dramatic it will come out when it comes out still going to have to wait a while until mp comes out for 42

fallen leaf
fallen leaf
# sudden laurel Y’all are so dramatic it will come out when it comes out still going to have to ...

Steam commits gather, and now my watch begins.
It shall not end until 42.12.
I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children.
I shall play no other game while waiting,
I shall live and die in this channel.

I am the keyboard in the darkness.
I am the watcher on the discord.
I am the fire that burns against the cold,
the memes that bring the copium,
the horn that bothers the devs,
the shield that ignores realistic timelines.

I pledge my life and honor to the Patch Watch,
for this update and all the updates to come.

merry barn
sudden laurel
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Cringe but sick

fallen leaf
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If its intentionally cringe, is it still cringe, or just ironic?

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Im not 100% sure what ironic means mind you

warm meteor
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I need haikus

fallen leaf
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Forty-two point twelve,
eternal loading screen life—
just bite me already.

fallen leaf
merry barn
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lol

warm meteor
merry barn
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i hate those god damn rats

narrow rampart
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sully when he checks this channel

merry barn
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Lmao

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But its funny , the haiku!!

manic salmon
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I know itd make more sense for it to release tomorrow because Friday but update in 8 minutes

fallen leaf
left valve
left valve
icy light
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i just saw my game update

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i thought the game actually updated

left valve
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(which you can also follow in your own servers if you want a easier way to see it)

terse fog
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hello

rugged lotus
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You lied to me coringa...tired

terse fog
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😭

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If the update isn't tomorrow (Friday) it will only be next week, I'm already going crazy

terse fog
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😉

rugged lotus
harsh quiver
cedar stone
narrow rampart
broken plover
cedar stone
cedar stone
broken plover
cyan drum
tame grotto
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hey does anyone know of a way to have the floor behave more similarly to b41? What i mean is, place a bunch of containers like garbage bags on one tile, and you can fill those bags to their capacity without being interfered with by the floor limit?

strange snow
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not to sound like an idiot, but why are people saying that another update is going to be dropping soon ?? or is that just like, hoping it does

wicked pollen
strange snow
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hmm, fair enough i suppose. i did check the dates to see if it happens on X day of the month or something, but it does seem to happen a month or two apart (except hotfixes, of course)

wicked pollen
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Based on the roadmaps and things dev shared, seems like most of it are done/being develope? except for combat, hunting, gun and multiplayer I think, don't know haven't play unstable release yet.

strange snow
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honestly i dont even know where the latest roadmap is rn

wicked pollen
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Found it on reddit, but I don't know either if they makes changes of it

strange snow
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if i remember correctly, which i might not, i do not think they've added these ones, or at least not fully (??)

  • randomized wilderness/biomes
  • new grass (new texture maybe?)
  • tracking/hunting (or at least, not that i've seen, i could be wrong)
  • uhhhhh
  • they could probably end up expanding more on the new clothes/weapons/etc, lore items, and vocals
  • they're probably gonna end up tweaking gunplay and combat more before it's done
  • did they add raccoons ??? i want to say no
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i'll go speedrun the changelogs, see if i missed something, it's been a while

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tbh there are a few QOL things that might change too, or get reverted. barricading has been moved to the build menu, even though unbarricading hasn't been. for some reason

vestal shard
strange snow
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Huh! Good to know. I know I've missed a lot but hadn't realized it was that much

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I thought I did see something about tracking at one point but it can be hard for me to parse long blocks of text

broken plover
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I just want to have car animations unhappy

fallen leaf
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Today is my birthday, maybe the devs will give us 42.12 as a present 🙂

broken plover
ocean willow
fallen leaf
ivory knot
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Will never be on a Friday unfortunately

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HBD though

soft lava
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I wouldn't say "never", but yeah, generally you should never put out on update to any piece of software on a Friday unless you want everyone to be working over the weekend

ivory knot
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100%

split gorge
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Just wait for 7k and we're either good or impatient

left valve
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to disappear for 3 weeks for a major update

sharp granite
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We will get the patch by my birthday

fallen leaf
sharp granite
muted iris
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TIL (Today I learned) I have 2 birthdays.

strange snow
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well, MY birthday is in a couple weeks. on a saturday. totally released in time for then /jk

quaint dragon
cyan drum
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Surely it can't be THAT hard to make greenhouses possible, I wanna make walls of tarps, garbage bags, plastic bags, and such with staples, duct tape, and adhesive tape lol

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Unless we finally get large pane windows for glassmaking

vestal shard
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not that tarps arent already a very useful material to have of course

soft lava
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!suggestions

vast riverBOT
cyan drum
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I already disabled the setting that lets me plant indoors, but I kinda just limit myself to planting near windows

cyan drum
soft lava
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I can't remember

cyan drum
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Neither can I, I hope it's this update given agriculture and all that

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But like, if it's not, no big deal. The workaround is just enabling the setting, like I said

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I was messing around with how roofs for animals work, and despite it not being an enclosed indoor space, any roof counts which is good.

vestal shard
cyan drum
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I hope less actually, that's just based on B41 finally ending

vestal shard
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i too am sure that a lot more content and mechanics is yet to come

cyan drum
vestal shard
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i see

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some additions in the B42 patches do seem like they're more "spontaneous" ideas that nonetheless improve the game, so it's not out of the question

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i doubt anyone was expecting ragdolls, but we have them now

cyan drum
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Yeah, I like all these little things, it was kinda annoying having a much of small mods

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Ok that's big

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I meant stuff like marking items lol

vestal shard
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you didn't know?

soft lava
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there are some highly requested features still coming... but yeah I wouldn't expect another 50 patches for unstable (though that's not an official statement and please don't crucify me if shit goes seriously wrong)

vestal shard
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roger that, first person im going to complain to when my schizo predictions end up being untrue is going to be Sully

cyan drum
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Highly requested... like water filtration? I can can see making something like a gasmask filter

soft lava
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I'm not going to go into more detail than that sadly

vestal shard
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we can already make gasmask filters

cyan drum
vestal shard
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water filtration would go hard

cyan drum
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The biggest thing I'm looking for is finding WHEAT seeds in a WHEAT field

vestal shard
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it could really be as simple as creating a few layers, like sand, powdered coal and a piece of fabric

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i have not the slightest clue how water pollution works ingame though

lime sky
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Isn't there a video out there of a playtester livestreaming the next patch? That's usually a sign that it will be released soon right? Right??

cyan drum
vestal shard
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because tainted water could be anything from bacterial to chemical to some otherwordly unexplainable pollution

cyan drum
soft lava
cyan drum
vestal shard
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a residential building in rosewood was moved 1 tile to the east 🤯

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gamechanger

cyan drum
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absolutely

soft lava
vestal shard
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sigh 🙄

cyan drum
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I was watching nurse the other day and she fell through a hole in the floor in LV lol how does that even happen, how long has it been like that, unless LV was changed more than I thought?

strong moon
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https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/86431-42110-rev30715-two-glass-rooms-in-game-are-supposed-to-be-greenhouses

The Indie Stone Forums
[42.11.0] [rev:30715] Two glass rooms in game are supposed to be gr...

Version: [42.11.0] Mode: [Singleplayer] Mods: [None] Save: [New Save] When I visit code about agriculture, I find there are 4 greenhouses in game. I check all of them, but only 2 rooms are greenhouses. The other 2 rooms don't become a greenhouse. After testing, I find that plants in the greenhous...

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Hope it helps to you.

vestal shard
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really really really hope electronics will get more use in B42 before its considered stable

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and of course more improvised weaponry is always nice

cyan drum
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It does, but that's only for predefinied rooms. Might as well be saying I can't build indoor rooms in buildings lol

vestal shard
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i love tinkering with wood and putting stuff together ingame

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when you have a lot of resources at your base and some decent skills its very relaxing and joyful to just make your own stuff

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B42 makes it better

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way better, and i assume it will continue getting better for a while still

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no idea why we dont have the option to make stronger spear handles though, maybe reinforce them somewhat

cyan drum
cyan drum
vestal shard
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the thing i had in mind was more like sheet metal maybe

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strips of it along the lenght of the handle

cyan drum
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... sheet metal, even the small ones, are bigger than cans lol

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Just cut the can

vestal shard
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i was going off of the ingame visualisation of both. Sheet metal scrap is visualised as pieces and strips

cyan drum
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Oh, the scraps yeah, but they already have the crafting recipe for cans so I though they'd just reuse that

vestal shard
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we have sheet metal and tin can reinforcement for blunt weaponry but we still cant use barbed wire 😂
hilarious

cyan drum
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Not enough wire in the world to be worth it anyways

vestal shard
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and no the barbed wire options we already have dont count. I wanna wrap it around a baseball bat

cyan drum
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Need more wire

vestal shard
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the most OBVIOUS place to put it on, and they dont have it

cyan drum
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Also, I never knew rooms were defined like vehicle zones

vestal shard
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and by the way i tested it and barbed wire-wrapped hockey sticks or brooms are pitiful

cyan drum
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Yeah I never touch barbed wire, it seems useless

vestal shard
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pitiful. Not even usable

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it wouldnt be useless realistically, indiestone merely decided that its not going to make a noticeable difference

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even though on a decent heavy piece of wood/metal it could create some nasty wounds

cyan drum
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More damage on players or chance to lacerate and scratch makes sense

vestal shard
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nah.the spikes on barbed wire could definitely damage the skull with a proper hit
you can destroy a zomboid's head with a few stomps

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compare it to that fact

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it wouldnt be much different from the nails

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i want barbed wire to be applicable to a much wider assortment of weapons as it could be another alternative option to make an already deadly tool deadlier

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much like you can sew clothes from fabric, or tarp, or even trashbags

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much like most wooden tools can be repaired with adhesive tape, or duct tape, or even glue or epoxy and resin...

edgy ridge
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Update is on Tuesday

vestal shard
broken plover
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although

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the less changes there are on steamdb the closer the next patch

fallen leaf
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Not until next week at this point

lime sky
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Guys the update is next week. Not guaranteed but very likely after what we were told about no updates on before weekends and the fact that a playtester is already streaming the patch. Just one last wait until next week and we're good!

honest narwhal
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one last wait leading into another big wait

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we are in the trenches of updates rn

lime sky
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The human condition is one hell of a thing. Maybe I should become a monk in-between patchnotes.

strange snow
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tbh a water filter wouldnt be too hard in practical terms if you have stuff like charcoal, sand, and something like cheese cloth, if i remember right

vestal shard
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thats what i imagined

strange snow
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and two containers - one for the filter and one for the clean water - but hopefully that's obvious lol

feral summit
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B42 will be released July 9th 1993.

long wedge
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Do Deer respawn?

ocean willow
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pls release the patch cuz i asked nicely have a nice day.

terse fog
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next week

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the chance is 80%

narrow rampart
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what are your calculations for that result

novel pagoda
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Guys i heard the update is in 12 seconds

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I was lied to deadinside

novel pagoda
storm pebble
harsh quiver
rugged lotus
manic salmon
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Always bet on Saturday release

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I know I have indeed been wrong every single time but trust me

strange snow
harsh quiver
rugged lotus
feral summit
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How schizophrenic are we about updates today

tender shuttle
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TODAY??????????

feral summit
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UPDATE TODAY CONFIRMEE?!?!?!?!?

edgy ridge
feral summit
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That's what they want you to think

soft lava
feral summit
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We have no physical evidence it's Saturday we just need to hope we've all reliably kept count this entire time

feral summit
edgy ridge
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PZ devs operating 5G signals to manipulate our internal body clocks and simultaneously change every computerized calendar to a weekend so they have another excuse to not drop the patch

vestal shard
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true..

rugged lotus
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At this point

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They should wait till October or smth

shadow sage
rugged lotus
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Would be more satisfying to get a new update on the first of the month

nova crystal
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if it takes longer that means they working on more patches and fixes

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so more big WALLS of text MY FAVORITE!

edgy ridge
nova crystal
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oh you are brasilian nice

edgy ridge
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Nope

#

I just got through the terrible autodubbing

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To summarize the whole thing into 3 points, new nascar car, more breakable fences and some debateable QOL fixes

rugged lotus
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New breakable fences? Nice

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Already not bad

broken plover
last osprey
# soft lava oh well we're not miracle workers... god you guys ask for the moon

All i ask of you guys at the Indie Stone is to give yourselfs constant pats on the back, the naysayers are irrelevant to me and i wish they could be to you, you guys have single handedly created the greatest zombie game ever. (Already, in its unfinished state) in the same vain gamers can act and be entitled to all of these constant demands and often pushy criticisms, you guys are more than entitled to bask in the glory of your work regardless of them, keep it up, been with you guys since the Alpha demo and i'll continue to be for as long you continue to work on the game, as have many others and so will many of those many others, love you guys ❤️

lime sky
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👆 💯

tardy socket
soft lava
# last osprey All i ask of you guys at the Indie Stone is to give yourselfs constant pats on t...

We love you too, and I can assure you the entire team is proud of what's been built. Everyone who works for TIS loves this game and pours their heart and soul into it. It's certainly not always easy, but we do take care to pay attention to constructive criticism vs non-constructive criticism, and to disregard the non-constructive criticism.

Although the internet amplifies the most toxic voices, there is an overwhelming pouring of love from this community that does an excellent job of drowning out those in the minority who spew vitriol, and we really appreciate it from the bottom of our hearts.

tardy socket
winged goblet
last osprey
# soft lava We love you too, and I can assure you the entire team is proud of what's been bu...

Glad to hear it, my admiration for you guys is without question, and my excitement for all future updates is frankly clinical, Build 42 is utterly insane for the game, i knew it would be seeing every thursdoid in the lead up to its unstable release, but what you guys actually delivered somehow gamechanging and still so Zomboid, my unwavering support is yours (That being said, i will happily exchange my soul for a splitscreen patch so i can play with my partner)

soft lava
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wait... does splitscreen not work? I thought it did...

last osprey
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well kinda, there is some strangeness with the controller, starting the running animation over and over instead of just consistantly running, i ran into a zoom issues, but it's because i use 2 displays so we both have fullscreens to work with, i fixed it by putting a custom resolution in the setting.ini file and using true fullscreen

soft lava
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Yes, we're aware of the controller issue and it's being looked into. There were some changes put in place to correct it in 42.12, but I think it created another issue (I'll need to double check). But yes, it's being worked on.

honest narwhal
last osprey
# soft lava Yes, we're aware of the controller issue and it's being looked into. There were ...

well obviously i take this with a pinch of salt because things can change on patch day, but that is none the less awesome to hear, i honestly expected Splitscreen stuff to get looked at much later into the unstable life cycle, but with what you guys have been dropping, i can't actually gauge how far into the cycle you are, ever since the ragdolls update i've been thrown way off, expectation blown out the park lol

soft lava
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Okay looking at it, the controller issue should be fixed with the next update (fingers crossed). Be sure to let us know if not.

last osprey
orchid fossil
# soft lava We love you too, and I can assure you the entire team is proud of what's been bu...

I’ve been following this game since there was a tutorial with Kate and Baldspot in it and I’ve only seen in improve with age. The waits for new updates are long but they’re worth it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. This game is one of my all time favorites, it’s one of if not the best zombie survival game out there, and you guys should be proud of what you’ve made. It’s good to know you guys don’t listen to the slack jawed drooling gorilla brains that bash the game for it taking too long to receive updates.

static iron
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1st person view coming when

edgy ridge
rotund bridge
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My hottake is I really want shaders in the game

rotund bridge
narrow rampart
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its real

winged goblet
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can you gimme a tldr?

ocean willow
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sprinklers are awesom

rotund bridge
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This is what I ment

ocean willow
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those are all 3d models 90% of the games assets are 2d

noble hearth
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I predict we get a new patch on Monday

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100% real

muted sun
warm meteor
rotund bridge
rotund bridge
vivid raptor
noble hearth
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nah

sharp granite
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Discord loading so slowly on phone that this thread appears locked every time. But I will not be swayed by such cheap tricks!

quaint dragon
edgy ridge
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patch tomorrow evening

vestal shard
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mayhaps

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as always, we're hyping ourselves up over assumptions

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but it does seem to be close

edgy ridge
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Indie stone said its most likely going to be on a monday or tuesday. If it's not this week. The unfinished patch has already been released to streamers.

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The content of the patch isn't really justifying the amount of time they're spending in comparison to other patches, so unless they're hiding something they haven't released to the streamers yet, it'll be any time now

feral summit
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It's Sunday. Let us make a sacrifice to the gods above for an update

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Bring me someone's still beating heart

bleak haven
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Patches usually drop Mondays or Tuesdays

feral summit
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...so no blood sacrifice?

winged goblet
bleak haven
feral summit
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B-BU-BUT THE RITUAL...

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Do you have any idea how many candles I had to light?!?!

winged goblet
soft lava
winged goblet
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Okay, new task(s) for TIS.

  1. Make it so that the tent (and other cloth style objs) can be affected by wind speed and direction (whether by true 3d or simply assigning the various sections of the sprite to different phys objs / drivers).

  2. Make boats real (come on now. . . :^)).

  3. Add custom virtual space(s) compatibility so things like tents, cars, w/e can have an interior without teleporting you into an off-map cell.

soft lava
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!suggestions

vast riverBOT
winged goblet
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Virtual spaces make perfect sense, fr.

feral summit
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Side tasks for TiS:

  1. go get lunch, I'm thinking that new Thai place down the way
  2. go take a break it's been a busy afternoon
  3. make sure to take a siesta it's after 2pm
  4. its 5pm hammer back six rounds of gin
soft lava
vast riverBOT
feral summit
soft lava
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Please don’t actually submit those though

feral summit
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I don't think the team needs much convincing to take care of their mental and physical well being

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....probably

soft lava
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No, they definitely do. The number of people who work on days they aren’t contracted to is way too high

winged goblet
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Driver animated cloth sims are nice but it's mostly for immersion I guess, not much of a benefit. Boats are big. Vspaces are big (it'll pretty much get rid of 95-99% of all 'interior' mods).

feral summit
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As someone in the medical field I can assure them that is a terrible idea happeh

winged goblet
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Let me draw up a sketch for it

feral summit
soft lava
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It is. TIS is really good at prioritising its employees

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Honestly it’s the first employer I’ve ever had that actually treats staff properly

terse fog
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

soft lava
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And I’ve worked for myself 😛

terse fog
feral summit
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Thats honestly kinda nice to hear especially given the current games climate and crunch culture

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I've seen fucking trauma physicians get burned out less

terse fog
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Dude, now you can find zombie corpses in cars, that's really cool

soft lava
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Yeah the gaming industry is built on exploiting passion

feral summit
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100%. It's art put through the conveyer belt

terse fog
sharp granite
terse fog
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Imagine finding the body of a female zombie in someone's trunk, it would be really bizarre...

sharp granite
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you can find them already

quaint dragon
late saffron
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where my update adm?

noble hearth
#

every time someone asks they add a day to the wait

broken plover
last osprey
knotty junco
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tried to skim through 42.12 preview vids. Haven't seen major features showcased, only nice but yet minor additions. Biggest thing I came across were the race-cars. Did I miss anything major or they just didn't show major new features (if any)?

edgy ridge
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theres a small chance it comes with something big, but .12 isn't expected to be anything special, despite how long it's taken

knotty junco
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Fair enough, not the end of the world. Even foreseeable for a summer patch

patent edge
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lol

vestal shard
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anyone ever burns out of playing PZ and takes a several-patch long break?

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i usually hop back in every 4-6 patches, play for another ~100 hours, then quit and take a break again

harsh quiver
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I am not sure I would call it burn out, but playing it does come in waves like that

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For me

patent edge
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project zomboid game patch drought lol

soft lava
feral summit
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I have a cycle
Single Player Tarkov>Zomboid>Multiplayer/coop game of the month>Bethesda RPG>repeat

hard wedge
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I can't interact with the cow I found. Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do to fix it?

late citrus
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Kiss De cow

hard wedge
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she gives me so much milk, i would do if I could XD

quartz hatch
#

Make bets

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Will we hit the 2 month mark of no updates?

nova crystal
terse fog
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its tomorrow

terse fog
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How do I become a beta tester?

harsh quiver
terse fog
harsh quiver
lunar meadow
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Will B42.12 support multiplayer? drunk

rotund bridge
vivid raptor
narrow rampart
neon sierra
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is there anywhere reliable to like... actually loot long blade books besides survivor zombies? i know gunstores can have them but it doesn't seem that frequent

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survivor homes too but like, surely these survivors looting and collecting those books must be getting them from somewhere

bleak haven
cyan drum
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I didn't know that zone existed until I found 2 survivor zeds and questioned my luck

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Must have been a whole community of zombies in this area, possible NPC location in the future

neon sierra
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is that a guaranteed spawn every time? wasn't aware there were any guaranteed survivor buildings

cyan drum
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It's a little difficult to get to it, keep that in mind. The road is washed out, twice, and there are a bunch of unbreakable, unmovable barricades

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@neon sierra Also note that the new random zombie thing could block out any spawns from that spot ever, so you might get screwed lol

lime sky
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Rise and shine, PZ devs. Rise and shine.
Not that I wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest. And all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until...well, let's just say your hour has come again.
The right team in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
So, wake up, PZ devs. Wake up and smell the ashes...

quaint dragon
tawny dawn
soft lava
# bleak haven Did you write this on a Sunday 🤔

.... I know... but to be fair I intentionally structure my work schedule so that I am around when I'm most needed... I hate Monday-Friday 9-5 and this role affords me the opportunity to never work that

left valve
#

Man i do wonder if we'll ever get a chainsaw, not for melee but for cutting down trees

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using axes takes quite some time if you have a large project

bleak haven
soft lava
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yeah... and I love that because it means I get to sleep in every morning 😛

bleak haven
soft lava
#

yeah I used to love night shifts, but when I became a developer it was impossible to find a single company that had anything other than 9-5. Everything is just so much nicer, and you never have to worry about getting errands done, or having an alarm wake you. The quality of life improvement from just not having an alarm is insane

bleak haven
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My absolute favourite part is not having an alarm and not caring if i go back to sleep after waking up. Staying in bed until PM if i want, or getting up and doing something while all the shops are empty. Now that i work closer to home too (<5 minute commute) QOL is just insane.
Though that all comes at the cost of working public transport at night for 9+ hours 😄

soft lava
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yeah, I would always just find a place to live that was a couple minute walk from work to resolve the transit issue (the money you save from not owning a vehicle is insane too)

bleak haven
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Depot assignment is seniority based, so as a freshie i had to travel to the city and back (hour or so each way), and working PT means you cant get the train to work because you start/finish when they're not running. Now that i'm close to home i still have to drive (suburban sprawl is awesome!) but only fill up once a month

soft lava
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yeah I could never do an hour commute each way... that's your entire day gone by the time you get home

tardy socket
#

i hate work

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Maybe because you haven't found a job you can pour your heart and soul into yet.

soft lava
#

I don't hate work, I hate that I HAVE to work. Feeling like my time's not my own... that always bothered me.

bleak haven
tardy socket
#

Dreams...

last osprey
soft lava
last osprey
ivory knot
last osprey
#

not the day

#

everyday it's not the day, just leads to the day itself being better than if it was the day

buoyant orchid
#

Today is just Monday!

soft lava
last osprey
#

if you have any tips and tricks, lord knows i need them

soft lava
# last osprey if you have any tips and tricks, lord knows i need them

oh plenty of advice.

  1. Happiness is the only thing in this world that matters. I don't mean instant gratification, but long term happiness. If you're doing something and it doesn't make you happy or doesn't work towards making you happy, don't do it.
  2. It's never too late to start over. I became a developer at 30. Others have started much later. If you want to do something, go for it.
  3. The most important trait in terms of being successful is tenacity. If you want something, go for it and never give up. Be determined, focused, and unrelenting.
  4. Life is a lot shorter than you realise. Fill it with experiences rather than things. Adventure is far more important to having a life you can be proud of than the newest phone, or car, or whatever.
  5. If you're weird and don't fit into societal norms - Embrace it, and lean into it. Confidence is an attractive quality (for both romantic and non-romantic relationships) and if you own who you are, people will gravitate to you. Those that don't you wouldn't want to have anyway.
  6. For long term financial success (this is not financial advice, please seek professional financial advice) - get on to the housing ladder as soon as possible. It's much more important than a retirement plan. Focus on retirement afterwards.
  7. If you ever get married, have a courthouse wedding and take the money you would have spent on a wedding and put it towards your honeymoon instead (or a house, or something that moves your life together forward).
  8. Get off social media. Full stop. It's a cancer and it's hurting you. You miss out on nothing by not being on it. If you think it's not influencing you, you're wrong. It's actively making you sick.
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okay that was a lot more than I thought it would be

ivory knot
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This:
Get off social media. Full stop. It's a cancer and it's hurting you. You miss out on nothing by not being on it. If you think it's not influencing you, you're wrong. It's actively making you sick.

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Also no 2- I did the same at 30, got my first IT job at 32

last osprey
soft lava
#

Tiktok is legitimately the worst platform for it too. The more engineered the algorithm, the worse it is for you, and Tiktok goes crazy with the algorithm.

last osprey
#

i was trying to do tiktoks to promote my stream, but frankly i wanted to be a streamer back in the day more than one now, i liked what twitch was, not what it is today, and not what you have to do to get going there now, it's such a different platform now, barely even feels like twitch anymore, just something else entirely

soft lava
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oh god yes. I started on Twitch back in 2013... it's so different now, and not in a good way.

full wyvern
last osprey
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not at all, i dont feel that sense of community anywhere there anymore, not really, save for a few streamers who still maintain that old way of doing things, but you can even see they have had to adapt in a number of ways

soft lava
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Yeah, I met all of my closest friends and even my wife through Twitch. Community was everything back then... now it's just everyone trying to make money

last osprey
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i miss it, i want to go live a lot of time, but i end up feeling like its just not worth the time anymore unless im spending all that time trying to create clips that fit some algorithm just so i can amass some kind of audience, but when i think about it, if my audience comes from people who just scrolled and found me, they probably wont stick around anyway, unless i keep pumping out random shit for them to scroll

soft lava
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Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about it too. I tried to get back into streaming a few months ago and it just feels a bit hollow

left valve
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what you dont like being told to subscribe/follow/like/share/prime sub/whatever every 20 minutes? shocked

last osprey
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Bruh

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Actually why I stopped watching the little amount of streamers I was watching

soft lava
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Twitch's push on ads has been horrible too. And all the streamers feel the need to incorporate ads, but also don't like taking ad breaks so you miss content.

left valve
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these days i only really watch streamers in the direction of soviet that are playing with friends where streaming is a side gig

soft lava
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who thought it would be a smart idea to have ads actually interrupt content so that you miss it?

left valve
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but i also dont really watch much streaming, I'm mainly into games that are fun being played but horrible to watch (hello, warframe)

soft lava
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yeah Warframe is one of those games you'd think would be stream friendly, but it's just not

left valve
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and you dont even really have other options in streaming

last osprey
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Kick....

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Let's just not get into the kick discussion lol

left valve
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I have to many morals to even consider that a valid platform, like genuinely

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you are either severly mentally ill, do gambling streams or your online personality is just the bottom of what society has to offer

soft lava
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it's the first to market problem... you need streamers on the platform to draw viewers, but you need viewers on the platform to draw streamers. Twitch already has all the viewers and streamers, so it's impossible to really compete.

left valve
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yep, sadly, we used all our luck with consumer friendly platforms on steam

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but I'm also not much of a fan with streaming and all its "irl" bullshit, people streaming their jobs has to be worst trend

feral summit
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my main problem is discovering new content thats worthwhile is also a massive pain in the ass

static iron
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the update is today im fairly sure

edgy ridge
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I was wrong again

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They drop it about lunchtime so they can fix any completely game breaking from the start bugs

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It's tomorrow or nothing

left valve
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i know what most of the things mean, but i still get dizzy watching people play with it lol

ivory knot
tardy socket
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4 more hours and it's a new day..

ivory knot
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Not in the UK.. Is that not where TIS is based?

broken plover
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go play something else or do something productive, doing otherwise will result in me sending more chudjaks replying to your predictions

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cause folks I get how much you'd want to get drunk and drive the new nascar cars, I'm myself very excited for it, but ts won't speed up the devs

dapper moss
rugged lotus
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we have time

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i do

main surge
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Same

last osprey
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main office is in the uk are you sure?

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what i would'nt give to take a daytrip to it

left valve
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yes, their office is in the UK

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but they have plenty of people working around the world

last osprey
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thats one office i wouldn't hate working in

left valve
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https://projectzomboid.com/blog/jobs

Project Zomboid
Jobs - Project Zomboid

Experienced gameplay coders wanted! The Indie Stone is looking for experienced Games Programmers to join the Project Zomboid team! We are looking for coders willing and able to refresh some of our older systems, polish the existing ones and then to delve further into the features that will be part of its exciting future. If […]

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if you happen to be a experienced programmer, they still do look for em

tardy socket
left valve
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that uh, is very much a job for your real life

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but also not entry level, so uh wheezeFlare

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but I also dont know how recent the posting is, you'd probably have to ask sully that because its been on the page for atleast 2 years now

harsh halo
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I'm glad I work for the Indie Stone so I don't have to get a job in real life

feral summit
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if indie stone needs any limbs reattatched or blood put in their body im for hire!

harsh halo
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I'd have to materialize in the real world somehow just to be in real interviews?

feral summit
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also didnt you guys bring on the dude who made Minecraft's generation code or something?

harsh quiver
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I love TIGS spiffo ❤️

knotty junco
knotty junco
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Also W life advice throughout. Sully is Amazing for real

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The most important trait in terms of being successful is tenacity. If you want something, go for it and never give up. Be determined, focused, and unrelenting.

It's true people. It's my only saving grace. Started my career as a kitchen porter 12h shifts and smelling like fried pizza. Now I have a PhD in cancer biology and financial freedom. Tenacity is EVERYTHING

feral summit
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@knotty junco did ya see that paper that apparently suggest we can use the appendix in cancer treatment?

rotund bridge
pine kindle
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hey

lavish sandal
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Zonbid

pine kindle
pine kindle
nova crystal
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dry hey you gave him bro no one in brasil talk like that

harsh halo
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A weird case of hobby becoming profession and vice versa

vivid raptor
rotund bridge
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No multiplayer until next year

manic salmon
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No multiplayer until the sun explodes

terse fog
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just be patient guys

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dont its easy be developer

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sorry for english bad 🙏

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remember, better later than never

sharp granite
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Multiplayer comes when you unlock it by seeing an unmodded survivor wander to your singleplayer game

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it takes time to walk from other states

knotty junco
# harsh halo Excellent. I decided to change paths (from ecology/evolution) instead of going f...

100% I work very hard, have plenty of responsibilities for a barely decent salary, a timed contract and no future prospects if you don't want to become professor (and there's no place for everyone, so competition through the roof). I will need to reinvent myself too, soon. But I'd do it again. I fulfilled child-me dream of becoming a scientist. Also funnily enough, I study cancer evolution, I'm sure you'd enjoy that eheh

lavish sandal
harsh halo
lavish sandal
#

Oh no

#

That sounds depressing especially with today's environment

left valve
# feral summit also didnt you guys bring on the dude who made Minecraft's generation code or so...

ProfMobius
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/11/one-door-openz

Project Zomboid
One Door OpenZ - Project Zomboid

Yip yip, hello. Let’s dive in. SWING BOTH WAYS Another exciting addition to the build 42 tech upgrade branch has just dropped. The tech upgrade branch is what contains our optimizations, improved view cone, basement/skyscraper technology and now… an immersive improvement that we’ve wanted for a long time, that could potentially lead to man...

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did some villager ai and worked on the reworked world gen (post cave and cliffs I think that gave us better chunk generation)

lavish sandal
#

World gen? Random gen cities when?

long wedge
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bug report?

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!bugreport

vast riverBOT
left valve
# lavish sandal World gen? Random gen cities when?

past the normal map boundaries, there is currently random generation (for a limited amounts of chunks, if remember that correctly), but if i recall it correctly 7 days to die-like random maps were not planned

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but it is supposed to be exposed to mappers at some point to create points of interest in the wilderness, that might achieve something close to it atleast

lavish sandal
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I know im just wishful thinking

neon sierra
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stars i can't wait for the update; i am getting so tired of the enormous framerate drop from being next to a container containing lots of items because it makes moving loot in vehicles awful

#

genuinely kind of surprised that wasn't a hotfix-tier issue

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especially on a 40+ day patch gap

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which is fine, this particular issue has just been really nasty in the meantime

terse fog
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hm

noble hearth
#

no patch today… sad day for all

long wedge
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Think of every day that passes without a patch ends up with a more refined stable release. Just takes little perspective. They're working hard and it shows every time

terse fog
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Exactly, I've said it over and over again, it's the first time I've seen a company that puts so much love into a game like this.

long wedge
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I tried playing warzone recently and I swear the game is fully designed to just ragebait you

left valve
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Or, y'know, it's just not a game designed for you?

terse fog
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I can't play another zombie apocalypse game anymore, it's inevitable

left valve
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If there wasn't a market for it, it wouldn't exist easy as that

long wedge
long wedge
broken plover
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I guess we shall celebrate 2 months no updates then spiffo

manic salmon
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guys

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i have been wrong every time, every promise was false

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however i know

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I KNOW FOR A FACT that we will get it tomorrow

lavish sandal
#

It aint happening boob tube

harsh quiver
tidal dragon
#

Are there any new updates or teases that are not covered here in discord? I haven't played PZ in a while I was hoping for news for B42 production.

bleak haven
muted iris
sharp granite
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even Discord scammers yearn for the patch, getting message requests from them and only shared server is this

harsh quiver
sharp granite
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I know I have Luna and her sister, but I ain't falling for a user with name "Baby Bunny" talking weird

quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
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What race are these bunnies ? Cause i cant find any like them in here

sharp granite
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dwarf lop

quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
sharp granite
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my wife has probably hundreds of just Peanut......I only have a fraction of them on my PC/phone

quaint dragon
sharp granite
quaint dragon
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Maybe even the mobile version of pz

sharp granite
ancient solstice
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B43 ain’t coming out for 3-4 years xD

spare junco
terse fog
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Good morning

ocean idol
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We wont be around for b43 bro maybe our children

sharp granite
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no kids, my bloodline will die

muted iris
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You have cousins/nieces in your branch families though...

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If we think hard, everyone is part of a branch family from a common bloodline.

sharp granite
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I'm not into finding out about my heritage, considering both of my grandfathers died well before I was born AND neither side of family never speaks of their ancestors

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also funnily enough because I seem to look like Lenin myself, it'll stay a funny mystery if I don't dig deep 😄

tardy socket
#

update is...

lofty tundra
#

when the 42 with mp?

sharp granite
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no ETA

soft lava
lofty tundra
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yes, but when? 2026?

sharp granite
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when its ready is the only answer you'll get

lofty tundra
sharp granite
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its been asked thousand times over and answer has not changed

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and I'm confident saying Sully would agree

lofty tundra
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It's like if you answered the question "have you eaten?" with "I'll eat when I eat."

sharp granite
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Yeah but Indie Stone doesn't give us patch dates for their own reason

lofty tundra
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lobotomy like

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I wanted to ask for a prediction, I didn't ask for the exact date

sharp granite
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so if the only answer we know for sure is what it is, we either ignore you or give the plain boring answer - Indie Stone has already stated no ETAs and ETA = prediction

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but if you want to ask for a dev answer, maybe one of them will say you so you don't have to take me or other non-TIS posters as your source

vestal shard
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just a guess, but B42 has the possibility of coming out within a year from now

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seems a lot of the planned features is already in

sharp granite
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I'm gonna be confident and say B42 stable will be coming around Feb-March next year while MP comes after remaining major features first iteration...say...in December

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pure speculation without any proof, eyeing and clinging onto the words that were said: B42 MP should be coming out faster than B41 MP did after Unstable release

soft lava
sharp granite
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and there it is, the same "lobotomy answer" but with a red flair, it be waiting patiently time

vestal shard
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can't blame the studio when implying literally any time window only brings more hurt in the end

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the fans gotta cope and just wait

ornate grotto
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I just give up

waxen ferry
uneven mulch
winged goblet
#

I can believe that. There's a server I'm on where people are literally hounding the owner because said owner hasn't released the server yet -- despite those people having no stake in it (i.e. haven't paid or donated anything, haven't contributed anything).

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Like what are you even mad about???? 💔

lavish sandal
#

You should have known

short scaffold
#

When can we expect the new 42.12 update? We've already been waiting seven weeks.

buoyant orchid
#

Patience, people, patience!

left valve
edgy ridge
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Patch in the next 6 hours or it's next week

left valve
#

thats why he got hired, to moderate us lol

edgy ridge
lavish sandal
#

The fan base is rabid though tbf lol

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Me included

soft lava
#

"enthusiastic", not rabid

left valve
#

thats a very diplomatic way of saying that, lol

lavish sandal
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Lmao for sure

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I mean you say one criticism about the fan base, next thing you know theres a reddit post saying "wow this is what the dev thinks of us!!!"

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I have no such limitations drunk

sharp granite
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Definitely rabid, the senseless random meltdowns over no patches in someones specific headcanon of release cycles, arguing both sides of the discussion in a monologue...very rabid

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Psychological malding over a decade old game they paid for once and got years worth of content yet it was not enough despite reading early access terms

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Not many games are in EA for this long so the frustration comes off for a reason, but reddit definitely makes it hard to feel sympathy for anyone criticizing the lengthy EA

fallen leaf
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I just got really hooked on stationeers, so I guarantee PZ update is today now that something else is filling my time lmao

soft lava
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Reddit is a peculiar beast in how it's designed. Most people interact with Reddit directly from their feed, so they aren't bought into the community. Instead they simply see a topic they agree with and then latch on to it. Negativity gets amplified because the people who want to complain see someone else complaining, but you don't get that same push with positivity. What you end up with are a bunch of misinformed people venting to one another and blowing things out of proportion. That and memes.

fallen leaf
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The only time I use reddit when im enjoying a game is to look up how to do something "thing I want to learn + reddit" and I don't even sign in for that

sharp granite
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I read PZ reddit TIS critics first time today and I just cannot fathom how some people hate every aspect of the game but instead of moving on into other things, they remain on announcing the hate forevermore.

soft lava
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When was the last time you were on Reddit and actually had a productive interaction with another human being? It's crazy how much of a difference being on Discord is. You actually get to know people here, and have constructive conversations. That just doesn't fly on Reddit.

sharp granite
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Sully you offered some pearls of wisdom yesterday for us swines slavering for patches, so I hope you can make the less patient ones of us understand this: If we, the players cannot affect the development speed, we have no reason to vent and worry about it. A minute spent on complaining about something we cannot change is a minute wasted.

tardy socket
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Guys, where does the generator maintenance magazine spawn now? I've driven through 4 cities.

sharp granite
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The vans usually have had them, and they have been many in number for me

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The factory for some reason has tons of steel stuff and saw blades but the parking lot has electronic parts vans

tardy socket
soft lava
# sharp granite Sully you offered some pearls of wisdom yesterday for us swines slavering for pa...

It's okay to voice frustrations, but it's important to be constructive in them. Someone asking for information about the patch is fine. Maybe they don't know about the no ETAs policy and think they've missed something. It's the people who don't take that answer that become a problem and are absolutely wasting their own time though. There's just no reason to ever get upset or angry over a video game.

sharp granite
tardy socket
#

I've been playing for 500 hours—this is the first time I've heard that ))

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Thnk!!!

sharp granite
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No reason to get upset over a video game? Ever played Mario Kart with someone who chose not to reveal basic tricks to get speed boosts?

sharp granite
soft lava
#

Honestly it's why I had to stop playing competitive games. I have about 1800 hours in Rocket League and I just can't play it anymore because everyone is just so angry. Had the same issue with CS:GO and Overwatch as well.

tardy socket
sharp granite
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A reason why I dont even touch some features in MMOs, pvp in particular gets people send hatemail and threats because you as a firsttimer are not a master of PVP lol

tardy socket
sharp granite
#

Overwatch sure was same, but as longtime WoW player someone telling me to kill myself for killing a mob before someone else just makes me to get them killed myself drunk

tardy socket
sharp granite
#

Since July 2007

tardy socket
#

omg

sharp granite
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Hardened veteran of slogging through insults, threats and other wonderful human interactions

tardy socket
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That's a lot. I got my first computer back in '11.

soft lava
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Back when I played wow in 2005 the community was so wonderfully positive and helpful... I miss when gaming was like that

tardy socket
#

and the first game I played was Need for Speed.

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By the way, how old are you, guys

soft lava
#

736

unborn ravine
tardy socket
sharp granite
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Haha Sully, same people back then who now play Classic never changed, same manchildren who simply minmax fun out of everything. Just 20 years older but same greed amplified by lack of patience doing things the old way thanks to adult world conditioning you to favor efficiency over fun

soft lava
#

I miss my old guild...

unborn ravine
sharp granite
unborn ravine
sharp granite
#

Miss me old guild of over a decade of service too. Sadly the guildmaster died IRL so thats that

tardy socket
#

In any case, they encourage you to explore the map. Otherwise, I would just build a bunch of furniture and walls at my base.

ivory knot
sharp granite
ivory knot
#

36

unborn ravine
#

does PZ have a way to collect data for statistics? like the most likely traits to be chosen, which cities people die the most in etc

tardy socket
soft lava
unborn ravine
tardy socket
sharp granite
unborn ravine
tardy socket
#

I hope you understand what I'm writing, because I don't know English))))

sharp granite
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Also if you think a number like 36 or 37 makes you feel young...I play WoW with a sea captain in his late 50s, he delayed a cruise ship with 2k crew once due doing dungeons with me