42.11.0 Unstable Released

[muted iris]

Ok, then this sentence is trivial.

[pallid vale]

yes but you must find the torch first

that's the horrible part

and also the mask

I do believe they will allow us to craft one or at least the welding goggles

there is a mod for welding rods pretty balanced but a mod, would want to see this in the vanilla

[muted iris]

It's somewhat easy to find in garages / auto shops / warehouses / commercial hardware stores. You just need to travel a lot, which is the tedious part.

Then again, the other solution is to bump the loot rarity from rare to abundant.

[pallid vale]

no that's immersion breaking

loot should be very rare in the apocalypse

not lying around everywhere

most of my categories are 0 on loot settings

[muted iris]

The default "rare" loot rarity level should be bumped up a tad more.

[terse fog]

Today is update?

[muted iris]

If there is an update, it wouldn't be in August, that's for sure.

Because we already have one.

Like, not too long ago.

[fallen leaf]

It was three weeks ago. The last update took 5 weeks, but the two before that were both 3 weeks. Not unreasonable that there might be an update this week based on the past.

[muted iris]

I'm half expecting 8 to 9 weeks in the previous update and the next one. :/

5 weeks is nothing.

[narrow rampart]

tbh im still thinking about

[muted iris]

NEW SKILLS?? /s

We living the dream if we get a new skill.

[merry barn]

Can we have trash picker upper

[narrow rampart]

turn hunter into a profession and add a cheaper gun trait 🙏

[fallen leaf]

I just want bows and throwable objects lol

[merry barn]

throwing rats?!

[fallen leaf]

and official melee ragdolls

beehives

[merry barn]

lol oh ok

[fallen leaf]

Hahaha

[merry barn]

that would suck

[fallen leaf]

FR though it will be fun to like throw rocks and stuff

[rotund bridge]

Hi

[pallid vale]

you're joking right>?

in default apocalypse loot spawns in an absurdly amount

way more than b41

[merry barn]

if you play with pre looted on insane it balances out i feel

i like default rare , if it was bumped up a little i think it would be too much and i dont want to have to go back to using insane rarity like in 41

[muted iris]

Nope, I'm not.

[pallid vale]

even if you ramp up that multi to 100 you still find loot on the ground

[merry barn]

is it a certain catergory you want bumped? or just overall

[muted iris]

Definitely Builders loot rarity balance category.

Apocalypse, just feels so restrictive.

[pallid vale]

.......

in 2 weeks in apocalypse I have everything I need and I quit that run

[merry barn]

the game mode thingie?

err difficulty*

[muted iris]

Difficulty is good.

Just the loot is not good enough.

[pallid vale]

:)))))

[merry barn]

ohh okay i cannot read lol

[pallid vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[wanton hamlet]

Idk even on extremely rare i still find everything i need, maybe you are just looking in the wrong places

[merry barn]

muldrag and riverside are great for getting stuff right away

[random shore]

Mp tomorrow for sure

[muted iris]

Honestly, at this point, anyone mentioning MP feels like they are trolling.

[merry barn]

pz community is made with masochists that like to set themselves up for dissapointment lol

[narrow rampart]

yall seen amz steel between echo creek and ekron? looks like a sick base area

[merry barn]

yah that looks like a really cool area for a base

i based at one factory place by ekron, but i fell off the rope string thingie n died

[icy light]

its really annoying to clear without the zombies breaking all the doors

[long wedge]

Does poop work in the composter????

I have a large amount of animals and I have a lot of poop that has nowhere to go

[narrow rampart]

i love the catwalk bridge that goes across the road, really sick

[merry barn]

there was a cool ss of someone building on that

made a really cool base

no idea what mods they used but that is so freaking cool

ok i lied they used dev mode

[rugged lotus]

It's so cozy omg

Sometimes being compact is the key

[narrow rampart]

thats really good

[cyan drum]

The fence has gaps... annoying, but I guess it's cool

There's a smaller version of it north of Ekron, I think it's more practical for singleplayer

[merry barn]

i love small bases like that, i feel like i dont hoard as much lol

[cyan drum]

Which one is better?

[cyan drum]

Every time someone says this I need to share this basement...

I like using the elevator mod with this place and covering the stairs

[merry barn]

lmao wait is that in brandenburger?

and is it always there

[cyan drum]

yiss

[cyan drum]

static basmenet, yep

it's 2 floor deep

[merry barn]

lmao im gonna go live in it right now

[cyan drum]

You can actually build on top of the -2nd floor if you sledge the wall on the -1st floor

meaning, you can plumb underground

[merry barn]

sweet , thanks for telling me about that place haha havent lived in a basement thingier yet

[cyan drum]

https://b42map.com/?2232x6411

I didn't know if you knew where it was so... there ya go

[merry barn]

yay thanks

nope, i did not lol also never even noticed that place dunno how

[cyan drum]

I was thinking about basing in the half destroyed train yard, but I think this basement is better

[merry barn]

those towers there look like awesome bases

[cyan drum]

The entire area has great potential, it just FEELS like an empty town for some reason

[narrow rampart]

1

[cyan drum]

Any particular reason, non-water related

[narrow rampart]

the catwalk

[cyan drum]

I just noticed that the beams are on the road in #2 wtf

I think it's supposed to be sidewalk, concrete tiles

[honest narwhal]

on what terms

[merry barn]

thats the one i fell off the rope lol

[harsh quiver]

Old but not boomer old

[cyan drum]

Going back to these warehouses, how come they looks so fucking cool and then the prisons look terrible? I want a TWD prison, not a pristine city prison

Ok, they don't look terrible, just worse in comparison

[left valve]

There's a corn maze below LV that I think would make for a pretty good large base if you fence in the surrounding area

[merry barn]

rosewood prison?

[cyan drum]

Both Brandenburg and Rosewood look kinda boring compared to the warehouses

[merry barn]

rosewood could use a glow up a tad i tink

[terse fog]

hi

[terse fog]

I don't know why but these words made me want to invade the Rosewood prison and clean it up, then go out and farm aura, I'll play

[merry barn]

lol

[left valve]

And maybe a lil zombie reduction... That clown car court house is something else

Or did they already fix that?

[merry barn]

i dunno i play the same seed anytime i play

[cyan drum]

What's special about that seed?

I have a few unique seeds that I found

[ocean willow]

respectfully delay b42 until 2027

oh and please let us bulk dismantle watches again

[merry barn]

can go in guns unlimited lol

[cyan drum]

Oh that's a good one then yeah, but aren't half of the zombies inside the building?

[left valve]

But I'd imagine there's zero loot then?

Some loot is influenced by how many zombies are in the chunk now

[merry barn]

just in the back

[merry barn]

nopers it was full of loot

[left valve]

Huh might be worth to report to see if that's a bug

[harsh quiver]

Yea loot and zombie spawns are two separate rolls for the seed

That is by design

[left valve]

Yeah but it technically reduced or increased loot based on zombie count

[cyan drum]

Yeah, the cutoff comes last I think

[left valve]

So you don't get too little for some regions

[cyan drum]

It's based on the zombie density and ignores the cutoff I think

Is it on purpose? Who knows

[cyan drum]

Oh I remember at the beginning of B42 it was always stuffed with a lot out and a lot inside, I guess they're mostly outside now.

[merry barn]

where was it said that it does that

[left valve]

You can set up the default values for it in the loot settings

Including reducing/increasing by how much it affects your loot

[merry barn]

i dont get it

those are the settings i use also if i want it to loot guns unlimited do i need to turn that that up?

[left valve]

Huh did they remove that again?

I'm not currently on my PC to check, but I'm pretty positive it should be in the sandbox options

[cyan drum]

Scroll down to the bottom of the Loot page, it's the last setting

but also, sure, maximum rooms also changes that

[merry barn]

that?

i dont know what that means so i never touch it

[cyan drum]

The maximum rooms prevents guns unlimited from being pre-looted I think and the Zombie Population Loot Effect determines how much the loot is multiplied by according to the zombie density.

[merry barn]

ok hang on

[left valve]

Ah thank you so I'm not going crazy

[harsh quiver]

[prisma linden]

does anyone know how far along the multiplayer feature is at TIS for b42?

[ocean willow]

you can play local multiplayer rn

but not online

[left valve]

steam remoteplay is supported

so yes, you can indeed play with another person online

but its still spltiscreen

[harsh quiver]

I ❤️ TIGS

[rugged lotus]

Yes, exactly!

[harsh quiver]

🙌

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho-100-update-not-today-gif-15912654188829006754

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-nod-nod-kermit-kermit-the-frog-gif-462345856512872323

[terse fog]

I am the real Project Zomboid

Is it possible for the next update to already be stable?

[pallid vale]

most probably not

[terse fog]

I was going to send the panic emoji, but I remembered I have the fearless trait

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-update-is-tomorrow-gif-963627539824806485

[ocean idol]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-27283065

[ocean idol]

Could this be circumvented if I have 2 monitors?

[pallid vale]

no

you can extend the display but the resolution would be horrible

if you duplicate, then there will be 4 split screens

[terse fog]

Update will be tomorrow, 5% chance of certainty

[muted iris]

This is not like weather predictions.

[sinful dove]

I like these odds

[left valve]

at this point its reading used coffee grounds...

[quaint dragon]

Disagreed , chance of update 42.12 to be today or tomorrow is 0.0001 But not impossible

https://tenor.com/view/kenclash-ken-smiling-ken-kfclash-clash-royale-gif-1302152654187421870

[cyan drum]

Split screen on a 32:9 ultra wide is normal zomboid

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[terse fog]

Hi

[terse fog]

[lime sky]

https://tenor.com/view/there-will-be-an-update-soon-update-fanfiction-fanfic-fanfic-update-gif-9519964056072360264

[merry barn]

lol noo

[rough tide]

hope they will add mp

they seem to not care what the comunity needs

[merry barn]

because they dont add a feature that isnt ready for the public?

[harsh quiver]

Or you could look at it in the light of they care about delivering a high quality product to their community so that we have a good time when we play it. Not release it as a broken mess like 99% of game companies do these days

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-will-turner-thats-not-good-enough-meme-black-pearl-gif-21850193

[rugged lotus]

Dawg, just cope

They feed us enough

[ocean willow]

Yes

[outer cloud]

have had that a bunch, yes. it SEEMS to be related to chunk loading.

json masks are held on with string

the combination of this comment and your server flag is.. disheartening.

yes, but also, maintenance should make it last longer, not just keep max possible ability while it degrades, and while I understand the concept of, I'm using this fire ax on people, it's not intended, bone and bits of metal in their clothes and pockets and such is going to damage this ax head faster, at the same time, tool usage the correct way to chop down trees shouldn't wear it out as fast as it does in the game currently. it's all a balancing game though like you said.

[pallid vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317926995279089664/kZgmqy.gif

Yeah, cauz that's why they removed the main menu art

they didn't care about players

or added the QoL map stuff, street names, etc

no care what so ever....

[buoyant orchid]

All I can say is that they are cooking well. I don't mind MP taking a bit longer since b42 has been so far very good

[pallid vale]

any reasonable user would understand MP takes longer because there are missing features in SP, it's just the kids that don't comprehend simple stuff

[rotund bridge]

imagine they skip multiplayer and head straight to build 43

[merry barn]

lol

[ocean willow]

Tbh wouldnt mind it

[harsh halo]

That would be awesome. Ahhh you mean in game, that too I guess.

[merry barn]

😆

[sharp granite]

76 years later

or 13 days, same thing

[sharp granite]

Perhaps a TIS office tour in a whiskey distillery to get a close insight in the name of science?

Ensures future whiskey-making is accurate

[terse fog]

I am the real project zomboid, and my final verdict is that the update will be next week

[merry barn]

haha alcohol tasting trip

[sharp granite]

Better that than eating erasers

[merry barn]

nothing like a side of erasers to go with the correction fluid

[cyan drum]

Delete every mode except for sandbox and leave all the settings blank in the next update

"fuck it, you make the game now"

[harsh halo]

Count me in!

[cyan drum]

or even just randomize the default settings, that might be funnier.

That has to be a mod right, random world settings?

[merry barn]

replace everything with just tp

[harsh quiver]

Can you hit me with the other one please? 🥹

[formal niche]

non-3D pie

[harsh quiver]

Perfection ❤️

[merry barn]

make it a 90s clitter gif

[harsh quiver]

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/nectar-of-the-gods-ron-swanson-gif-2433682195946264974

[terse fog]

Update its tomorrow

[sage prairie]

Realy?

[sharp granite]

no

maybe

[remote edge]

ı am not realy exticed for the update bcuz of 42.11

[edgy ridge]

It's not

Never is

[quaint dragon]

No if not tonight then maybe next week

[gilded island]

https://tenor.com/view/patience-is-bitter-but-its-fruit-is-sweet-daniel-francis-aristotle-bridgerton-lord-marcus-anderson-gif-5363163823027394856

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-ian-malcolm-lets-all-try-and-stay-positive-try-stay-positive-gif-26442304

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-rage-scream-gif-14118136

[gilded island]

😆

[sharp granite]

update is the day after the day before

[rugged lotus]

What

[left valve]

the day before already happened and it was a beautiful disaster

[merry barn]

canw e have our op soda back

[sharp granite]

colamancers union

[merry barn]

😆 cocaincola

[nova crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/sorcery-gif-14939727514775345071

[manic salmon]

Animated cars, mp, brewing, machinery, and you know what npcs too why not

Anything’s possible we just gotta believe guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[merry barn]

"if it aint in the patch notes, no exist" nm the sekrit stuff they add

[left valve]

it would actually be fairly funny if they sneak in a major feature and just pull a Helldivers and not mention it in the patchnotes

[merry barn]

yah i love things like that

me when last update and nobody but one person noticed the rivers lol 😭 "but the rivers!!"

[terse fog]

I already suspected that too

I can't wait

[hard wedge]

i lived for almost 2 months in the new secret house in the forest and died so happy for enjoy the new river

[merry barn]

yay, i love the new rivers so much

really pretty locations over theres

[harsh quiver]

It's very neat that they added them, always felt that living in the centre of the map was rough cause of the lack of water to use/fish in, so it's perfect

[left valve]

man i would love a small challenge map â la tropical resort, just jam packed with zombies

[pallid vale]

the Onyx facilities are awaiting you Billy....

so is the Polaris if you go to free flight right now

[honest narwhal]

isnt there one similar to this in b41

kingsmouth island I think it was

[covert edge]

yo what did the new patch add

the patchnotes wont load for me

[pallid vale]

try disabling adblocker, seems to block their website recently

or watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Lq90Eq3mY&t=1s

[ocean willow]

add a supported way for mod creators to replace the ingame soundtrack with their own

instead of requiring file editing by the mod user

i think it would be nicer if it was just straight up supported

maybe add like a new "soundtrack" option

where it pulls down links and stuff with a sub menu where u can search for soundtrack replacers on a website or something

or could just link to a soundtrack catagory on the workshop

1 press boom now you're using a new soundtrack

it would just swap the official soundtrack file to the fan ones

its the kind of thing that has little to NO vanilla impact

making it an official feature would make the game so much more customizable

its literally just sounds

also add a tattoo pen that lets you tattoo a texture plain on ur body

it would just be like blender painting but for your zomboid character

causes pain in the area after use and soreness

bleeding severity depends on ur tattoo skill

[harsh quiver]

Isn't there already a drop-down menu with selectable soundtracks?

[ocean willow]

people cant insert their own easily

its outdated asf

[harsh quiver]

Gotcha

[ocean willow]

rn its only selectable from "legacy" and "current"

[harsh quiver]

Yea that was added with fmod or whatever was added

In like B38

[shut timber]

have you made a post about it on the forum Cake?

[ocean willow]

no

[shut timber]

your suggestion will probably get drowned out here

[ocean willow]

i just thought of it

idk how to write it to look good anyways

i have a forum account but dont know how to use it

[harsh quiver]

They have a template for suggestions I believe

[ocean willow]

oki doke

[terse fog]

hi

[cyan drum]

The next big update is making stairs face south and east!

[ocean idol]

Huge. I think we should give them another 3 years of development just for that alone.

[buoyant orchid]

That's kinda hard with the isometric perspective. One possible solution would be the ability to rotate the camera in 90 degree increments. But that wouldmean that the entire world and possibly the engine need to be redone. So highly unlikely sadly

[dapper moss]

Someone has recently made a mod for south and east stairs.

Pretty sure the devs said at one point they have a work around for it but unsure when or if it’ll be in b42

[buoyant orchid]

Someone did? O.o

[dapper moss]

Yup it’s on the workshop, b42 only of course

[cedar stone]

do we all agree multiplayer is a myth at this point?

[dapper moss]

No, it will arrive when it’s ready 😉

[terse fog]

OPDATE

[fallen leaf]

downdate

reddate bluedate

[cyan drum]

Like the other guy already said, I said this because I saw a new mod on the workshop that does this lol

[minor kettle]

I realize that the player vision cones are smooth and straight, but not light cones such as those in car headlights or torches. Is this intentional or is it something that will be addressed in a patch? I’ve heard some talk of the light rework but I don’t know if it’s been fully finalized.

[sharp granite]

light spreads even if focused, vision is not about producing light, but absorbing it

[primal scroll]

Can we please just get rid of the dumb "open beverage" button already?

Or actually even better, if its gonna stay then at least give us an option to have items NOT immediatly deselected after one action. So I can open the beverage, have it stay selected and then press drink

[primal scroll]

Oh yeah while on the topic of QOL. Also a "everything" option for washing please

[shell relic]

hey Sully dogs and cats when?

[merry barn]

lol thought you said sullydogs

[harsh quiver]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3557652317

[lavish sandal]

Ohhhhh east

I thought you said weast

[harsh quiver]

Weeest

[cyan drum]

climb on vehicles when

[long wedge]

The twine shoes I made on the first day are more durable than the cowboy boots it took me a month and a half to make

[merry barn]

lol

[terse fog]

Does anyone know why my Project Zomboid runs smoothly for a few seconds, and then starts to lag?

[harsh halo]

We are investigating reports of lag, hopefully they will be fixed in the next patch. Some people seem to get it by driving for long periods, others report that storms or fog make it worse.

[terse fog]

🙏

[harsh quiver]

mostly the only times I see lag are when I am driving quickly, not sure about long distance. The lighting is getting mass updating (transition from day to night no where near as bad as it was when B42 launched) and then when a zombie decides to change states to a crawler, which isn't that frequent.

[drifting mulch]

Has anyone tried asking “when mp”? I’m sure they’ll let us know.

[honest narwhal]

whens MP

[harsh quiver]

+1 month

[honest narwhal]

bro had the tab open waiting for someone to say that

[harsh quiver]

I just happened to open it on my phone

[ocean willow]

why did the devs remove slings in b42

[formal niche]

the real question is why haven’t they added a Huge/Mega Spiffo with an encumbrance of 10?

[harsh quiver]

Advanced Frog AI when

[ocean idol]

Thats b43 stuff

[storm pebble]

[lime sky]

why aren't there any mods for animals?

and no I'm not referring to this monstrosity

or this (if you know you know)

[spring berry]

They are working on an amazing horse mod

And i think is about all the work behind them

Sounds, feeding animations, animations etccc

It's a lot of work for a single animal

[ocean idol]

Finally I can rp as rick from walking dead

[spring berry]

till now is amazing......the mod is going really good!!!

[harsh halo]

I want to know who's going to add dinosaurs

[honest narwhal]

me

[spring berry]

I'm expecting the full zoo or at least giraffe

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-clash-royale-gif-13225114218765509499

[muted iris]

Capcom

[half vessel]

maybe the dinosaurs will make mp..

(i didnt ask for mp, so pls dont +1 month me)

[edgy ridge]

+1 month

[merry barn]

And xenomorphs!!

[sharp granite]

in fact if TIS took over ARK development we might get something good, ARK has both xenomorphs and dinosaurs

[merry barn]

Lol, i think i tried playing that on a new laptop i got a few years ago and the performance was too much for it

[terse fog]

I think Project Zomboid is not the type of game that should crash frequently

but I don't know his code, so I don't know

[muted iris]

If the unmodded game of Project Zomboid crashes frequently, then I would definitely agree.

But for a modded game of Project Zomboid, you need to seriously convince me otherwise.

[narrow rampart]

do you think theyll add tupperware so you can meal prep instead of carrying around a whole pot of food

[merry barn]

Lol

Yes make it so you have to open the lid and everything

[icy light]

i wish that spoons and forks made you eat faster

[primal scroll]

masochists agree

[terse fog]

every time I try to close an amphora, an error appears

[primal scroll]

I still don't know what the hell went through the devs heads when they went like
"You know the most common thing of the game called eating and drinking?
Yeah?
Lets make it as annoying af"

[terse fog]

and it doesn't close, does anyone know anything?

I filled the amphora with gasoline, brought it to my base, but it doesn't close at all

[merry barn]

I like the new pop mechanics , it sounds satisfying

[primal scroll]

sure, just that you could simply allow eating/drinking before it is opened and simply have it automatically opened beforehand

Like what is this? reverse QOL? Unquality of life?

And since that isn't bad enough the item also get deselected and shifted around because fuck the player ig

[merry barn]

Its immersive

[primal scroll]

It's annoying thats what it is

I never did that and was like
WOW! SUCH IMMERSION

[coarse flume]

I think that's only true for drinks right? Wonder if having to open them now is a byproduct of the new fluid system. They don't have liquid in them until they're opened so that the game uses less resources to keep track of that item?

just a guess

[primal scroll]

It's for canned food too tho and has been since at least B41

[coarse flume]

I remember always having to open food first, maybe I'm hallucinating

[primal scroll]

It's such a ridicolously unecessary "mechanic" like if you're gonna do this then the absoloute very least you could do as a dev is keep it selected

[primal scroll]

Yeah, thats what I said

[coarse flume]

ah, I misunderstood, sorry

[primal scroll]

I don't understand how not more people find this annoying like wth

[merry barn]

i personally dont even notice a lot of the time , im usually drinking water anyways and finding a soda is more of a treat to me and i like to "enjoy" it in pz if that makes sense so i dont mind that immersion stuff

[ocean idol]

What yall think is a chance that the next patch is multiplayer update?
Inb4 "you just delayed it for 3 more months lol

[primal scroll]

Calling this immersion is like calling getting into a car crash exciting

Is it immersive? Maybe
Is it immersive enough for me to want to have it stay in the game? Fuck no

Like I get the whole uncomfortability change, that made sense and is adjustable in the sandbox settings but this is just straight up annoying

[merry barn]

does using bottle openers or anything like that make it open faster?

like the keyring one

handieknife thingier

[primal scroll]

wdym?

[merry barn]

nothing nevermind

[primal scroll]

aight

[untold oak]

I’m in camp immersion, i love opening cans and bottles ngl

Satisfying sounds

[primal scroll]

You could just have it be automatically opened before the consumption

It just doesn't make sense to have a seperate button for it IMO

[untold oak]

The act of pressing a button to open it is enjoyable to me

[primal scroll]

Or just make a seperate button called open+eat/drink

[primal scroll]

I aint arguing with that lol. I too like pressing buttons

[untold oak]

🤭

[primal scroll]

anyhow I found a mod to remove that unecessary mechanic

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422220305&searchtext=picking+meister

If anyone else wants it

[sharp granite]

I would argue that the missing major features are direly needed before MP, because if you bring MP next, and when said major features are coming, the servers would need a reset anyway due whatever major code changes and new bugs that require a fresh save.

Now if they'd be bringing both MP and all new major features at once next, I would stop taking drugs and go to rehab because I don't see it happening

[harsh quiver]

We are currently in a state where the devs have highly encouraged us to start new saves ever patch. I can't imagine that would go over well with mp worlds.

[manic salmon]

im assuming once mp comes all the major things what wouldve broken saves would've already been added so hopefully conversions wont be that risky

idk im not a dev im just assuming

[harsh quiver]

My point being that if they were to just release it without current things being fixed/added they would have to do it after which would break saves potentially. That is why they don't, they want to get it into a solid state before dropping MP in. It's a cake and you need to mix the ingredients, then bake the cake before you can add the icing. I'd say we are still in the mixing stage personally, but pretty dang close to bake.

[covert edge]

thx

[pallid vale]

saves will break even with a stable version if you're using many mods, happened a lot in b41 and will happen in 42

to reduce that chance, go vanilla or constantly backup your save folder

[undone ridge]

go vanilla 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[pallid vale]

horrible idea but safe

[terse fog]

update?

[remote edge]

need

[spare junco]

Do you know if b42 would be a woman, and when there was a first release of b42.0.0 and it would be a moment of getting pregnant the baby will come this month?

[pallid vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317926995279089664/kZgmqy.gif

[plain coral]

when yall add dogs

are yall gonna make them squeeze under fences to get past them if theyre the ones like the one in the funny gif

[patent edge]

dogs in PZ would be very yappy and call the zombies to your location

[outer cloud]

if you're in the us, 5 gallons A Year without license now.

[harsh quiver]

Honestly not that horrible - you have to remember at the start of a stable launch is when modders are likely most active. They will be updating their mods all the time which will cause the server to constantly need restarting so that players can join. When B41 launched this was such a common frustration for people. Meanwhile I went the vanilla route and taught friends how to play and they could hop on anytime no issues. We ended up doing two more play throughs after that, a one lightly modded halfway through B41's life and one pretty modded one just before path of exile 2 came out and stole my players and b42 unstable stole me.

[plain coral]

maybe dogs could have desensitization like humans do

in the beginning of the apoc

dogs are more likely to bark and panic

but as it goes down, they stop doing it as much

[patent edge]

imagine if zombies could attack and kill animals would of been more immersive.

https://tenor.com/view/a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-minecraft-sheep-sheep-minecraft-movie-gif-7234162315327111773

minecraft zombies eating animals

[plain coral]

i dont doubt thatll be added once theyre fully done with animals

[pallid vale]

I can't do vanilla ECN, it's too bad and missing stuff

[harsh quiver]

fair

[pallid vale]

logical stuff that you would expect a human to do

[harsh quiver]

I like it

[harsh quiver]

The devs have already confirmed they have zero plans to add zombies killing animals, it is on the modders to do it

[plain coral]

[plain coral]

why the fuck was this scene even in this movie lmao

they arent like this in game lmao

[harsh quiver]

Good news is I think everything is there to do the mod, someone just needs to do it

[pallid vale]

there we go, finally pushed some pre-caching shaders

let's hope it drops tomorrow

[cyan drum]

ALL from one swat van event, I love these things (please buff swat armor)

[patent edge]

Never found a swat vehicle in PZ yet

makes more sense in the city to find those types of vehicles

[fallen leaf]

Dang did it come in the swat step van? That’s the last emergency services vehicle I have never found haha

[cyan drum]

Most of the loot was on the 5 zombies

[static coyote]

mp?

[nova crystal]

mana points?

[static coyote]

absolutely

no fr to eta for mp?

[honest narwhal]

the name of b42 chat is the current knowledge about b42

[static coyote]

sad

i miss playing with the guys

[honest narwhal]

fr

[static coyote]

but everyone keep saying wait for b42 before new server

[rotund bridge]

b42 Multiplayer might release February, so if you want to wait that long then you should be fine. at earliest it might be november, but i remember PZ ususally not wanting to due to winter break, tho they have done november releases before

[harsh quiver]

They have also done December releases, B41 was released to the main branch December 20th. B42 unstable was December 17th

[cyan drum]

When tomatoes?

[edgy ridge]

B42 was a November release if I remember correctly, and B41 unstable - stable was about a year, so expect November

[spare junco]

B42 was released 17 dec

[terse fog]

In which year?

How long did it take for the b42 to be ready?

[spare junco]

Unstable release was 17 December 2024

And i don't think if devs know the exact date of stable version release

[terse fog]

Ok

[terse fog]

Bro

Will b43 take a long time then?

[sharp granite]

Unstable build 41 was released 2 years earlier, making the gap between unstables 5 years.

Time between builds take exactly how much a complex build of that kind requires. In other words, no idea until devs tell us and how complex the next build will be.

Saying that, pretty sure earlier builds years ago came much faster per build, but they were not as complex

[terse fog]

Ok

I think NPCs are quite complex

[sharp granite]

Week One mod is pretty cool looking, but the at least preliminary features for later builds imply the real NPCs gonna need more work

[terse fog]

Yes, NPCs are very cool, but they require a lot of work, I believe that by then AI will be common in games

And maybe Zomboid has AI in the NPCs

But it might just be my imagination.

[sharp granite]

I'm gonna have a little guess that actual artificial intelligence is gonna be lacking for a while to come, AI only knows what it is taught and can be easily confused

[terse fog]

[sharp granite]

What NPC behaviour we already have in some good games should do the trick for initial B43, probably

[terse fog]

Imagine how cool it would be to have good NPCs and bad NPCs who just want to kill you and steal everything you have

Vests might be useful

Bulletproof vests

[sharp granite]

would be funny to have a less than nice meeting with some NPC that later turns out to be a member of a powerful faction, and you just got yourself on their kill list

of course, would need proper "AI" for that, other people who never met you probably should not auto-aggro on you because someone told "a guy attacked me"

[terse fog]

Cannibalism will be real, with this butcher's hook

Imagine you enter a faction in search of shelter, but they kill you and devour you

[sharp granite]

Carver of Kentucky, serial killer playthrough

[terse fog]

And the worst thing is that this faction exists in the game on the radios

[lime sky]

Gib update you monsters!!!

https://tenor.com/view/fat-person-fat-boy-fat-man-angry-throw-gif-18070754048838558071

[sharp granite]

+1 month

ok ok it definitely should come earlier

[lime sky]

I'm too addicted to wait. Why can't the devs give me free updates for a game I payed for once a long time ago at a discount?

[sharp granite]

Have you tried asking them for paid updates

[lime sky]

Don't give them ideas.

I'm too poor.

[sharp granite]

At this point not a single TIS member would listen to me anyway

it has been 27 days since last patch

[lime sky]

Not after this lol

[sharp granite]

a valid question but the answer would kill everyone mentally

people get antsy over "give it a week or two" for next patch, telling them "2,5 years minimum" is just an overkill

[lime sky]

If an update comes out and no one is around to see it, does it exist?

[sharp granite]

relatively sure a b42 stable update with MP would send a psionic call across the universe like whatever attracts a zerg swarm on a planet

[lime sky]

🫸 🫷

[sharp granite]

It takes one player to notice the update, and exponential screeches of joy would radiate over the planet and suddenly Zomboid is the most played game on Steam

[lime sky]

No doubt, can't wait for that day. That would be pure bliss (and probably MP bugs for a while).

[sharp granite]

It may or may not be teased by dev posters and people would start noticing weird signs in the air just like B42 unstable

but alas it is not that day yet, next patch surely will refresh the hype

[pallid vale]

this is so misleading

b41 unstable came out in 2019 and b42 unstable in 2024

[sharp granite]

thats why I said 5 years after

the google AI shit only counted from Stable 41 to Unstable 42

[pallid vale]

yep

or maybe that's what they want you to believe 😉

[pallid vale]

it's the truth, we shouldn't hide behind it

you're also too kind with that 2,5 years minimum

but it's their policy and as long as people buy and play the game, it's ok I guess

[spare junco]

Actually how to start welding in b42.11?

[minor kettle]

I think comparing B41 unstable w B42 unstable just doesnt work. It was a completely different environment back in 2019.

Much smaller playerbase, much less capital, much less pressure

Now TIS has a lot more pressure to release B42 because they have a bigger playerbase and since they've been successful from B41s explosion they have access to many more resources

So probably the gap between unstable and stable releases won't be the same and looking back does little imo

I'm only human

[sharp granite]

TIS also probably has a bigger team now. And parallel development of both B42 features and MP.

[minor kettle]

That's a bingo

In conclusion, we must burn spiffos to the ground immediately.

[pallid vale]

you're actually making my point and it's ok

team grew, more devs, more players, more money, bigger team > 5 years

[minor kettle]

In case you missed it!

Idk I js see people speculating its going to take so damn long

[pallid vale]

it is

we ain't sayin it wont

[minor kettle]

After all 20 years aint that long right?

In the bigger picture

[pallid vale]

nice joke

[unkempt meteor]

I'm watching you

[minor kettle]

Agent Doakes

[remote edge]

why i cant rip clothes

[soft lava]

There is a known bug currently if your computer's regional language is set to Turkish. There is a workaround which can be found in our Frequently Reported Bugs posts: https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/563626653819875978/

[edgy ridge]

PZ when the internal clock of my bluetooth fridge that is linked to my PC via DNS server isn't set to exactly 4 minutes fast in comparison to IST local time.

[pallid vale]

huehuehuehuehue

I accidently sparked that fire 🙁 sry

[pallid vale]

FIlcher's heart melted when you quoted Starcraft stuff

mine too

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/probe-starcraft-protoss-portrait-gif-15200138

[harsh halo]

"My Life for Hire"

Pease don't post remaster 💩 though

[unkempt meteor]

I will never forget, I will never forgive.

[pallid vale]

😘

[harsh quiver]

You didn't like the remaster? I thought they did a pretty decent job. And I liked that they kept it so you could play with players without the remaster... Unlike future blizzard titles.

😅

[harsh halo]

640x480 or bust. I was also part of the modding scene so all that already existed was not compatible

[pallid vale]

either good ol' vanilla SC or SC 2

the remastered ones don't tickle the nostalgia like the original ones

[pallid vale]

Blizzard knows how to grab your cash

[harsh quiver]

Considering that was the last remaster I bought from them, not really

[pallid vale]

so you bought others as well

WC3?

[harsh quiver]

What? Sc1 was the first of the remasters

WC3 was after, and no

I played D2, but only because a friend gifted it to me and wanted to play - I would not of played it otherwise

Would have rather continued our factorio playthrough to be honest 😅

[harsh quiver]

That is fair, I totally get that! Majority of my play in my younger days was pretty much all Use Map Settings games. Mostly just like to do compstomps with my brother these days

[formal niche]

[cyan drum]

[harsh quiver]

[cyan drum]

Lore unlocked

You ever just, want to never see zombies?

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-brennan-huff-step-brothers-no-not-at-all-gif-16704124883174027526

[cyan drum]

Too bad, no zombies

That's the entire horse track and parking lot with no zombies + either part of the campus or the entire gated community next door

I think there's some sort of pattern with this zombie cutoff thing because I keep finding that a lot of saves end up cutting off the horse track in LV majorly a lot, like, these are the biggest zed cutoffs I've ever seen

[cyan drum]

@vapid wedge you said you were basing here and reminded me I had these world seeds saved

[stark void]

New update any time soon ? It has been nearly a month

[pallid vale]

you said that was the last remastered you bought from them which implies you also bought others

at least that's what I've undestood from your statement

[pallid vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cozinhando-igor-cartas-cooking-chef-gif-6984740686418870852

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

otherway around, it was the one and only though, it was the one and only, just not the only one I have played

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[honest narwhal]

itll likely be relatively soon since were getting to that point

[pallid vale]

don't rush it

let's see some actual content

[honest narwhal]

are you telling this to me?

[pallid vale]

to anyone who keeps asking for it

the longer it takes, the more stuff they will get in

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/update-update-is-update-today-gojo-gif-16037793766868577694

[terse fog]

Really

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-side-eye-ken-kenclash-clash-royale-gif-6734927380649649841

[terse fog]

Indie Stone is hiding something

Something that will surprise us

And it will leave us all shocked

It's going to be really cool

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/aum-look-animation-andy-pirki-life-gif-11860035

[terse fog]

☠️

[honest narwhal]

theyre adding bows

trust todays the day

[vestal shard]

Copium

[terse fog]

Really

[honest narwhal]

82% sure

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/lisan-al-gaib-gif-8141244973965263018

[ocean idol]

Bowties*

Check mate.

[honest narwhal]

this also works i guess

[fallen leaf]

That would be hilarious if they came out and said we meant bowyery as the construction and maintenane of bowties

[late saffron]

42.12.0 ?

[fallen leaf]

Fingers crossed lol

[void kraken]

add bulldogs to the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410678148030402681/1411319427344891965/81784099ef02eb547051d5c2b72e5c00.gif

[void kraken]

also make them get covered in a sheet like this

Amazing sully i'll make sure you will remember this

[harsh halo]

YT thumbs be like

[void kraken]

omg soul filcher i'm about to make the same pic and post it everywhere

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[spare junco]

Waiting time for new patches raising exponentially

Previous 42.10.0 patch 35days of waiting time
42.9 was 20 days of WT
42.8 was 20 days of WT
42.7 was 13 days of WT

I think, since it was 35 days of waiting time recently, it's going to be at least 50 days now

And probably because everyone is asking for a patch when? the counter + 1 week raised to 6 months!

[void kraken]

Yeah

[pallid vale]

Nasko lives......

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-1269381876110443381

[edgy ridge]

Do you think sully actually tells the team what we're talking about or if they hired him so they didn't have to look themselves.

[void kraken]

i think nasKo does

Sully told he's been a programmer

or maybe not

[lavish sandal]

I mean id hire someone else to tell me things. Gamers are whiny

[soft lava]

If I see something important I will feed it back to the team, but I'm not going to let the team know that XxPussySlayer69xX is complaining that build 42 doesn't have multiplayer yet. And to address @void kraken, I'm a community manager for TIS. For my career however I was a programmer, and it's a weird thing as I still identify as a programmer even though I don't do it for a living anymore (I do still do it for hobby stuff). So yeah, I have a background in programming, but I don't do any programming for Project Zomboid.

[void kraken]

Ohh, Thanks for telling

[void kraken]

By the way is there any way to see my discord lvl on this server?

[soft lava]

the /rank command

[void kraken]

thx

[harsh quiver]

I nearly lost my coffee with this first bit 🤣

[honest narwhal]

let them know that depressedcow95 said they doing great and keep up the good work

[harsh quiver]

And Ecn says hi

[honest narwhal]

[torn quest]

I guess I'll stay on build 41.77 for now

[terse fog]

The update will be today, does anyone have faith?

[fallen leaf]

Pretty late in UK now but a few updates have come out as late as 4pm EST

[terse fog]

Bruh

[pallid vale]

yes the feeback from these threads helped them very much

they read they listen they're elusive

they don't tell us they've sent the feedback, but they do

and it was very productive before 42, we talked about possible features, game mechanics and they seemed to listen

so we should keep it constructive not demanding the update

but helping shape out the next update in terms of bugs, gameplay and mechanics

this is what a healthy minded user should do

not trash them on their own discord.....

[shut gulch]

Don’t you find those words offensive to pussyslayer69….😭😭😭

[pallid vale]

and they engage with us from time to time

it's not like CIG Billy :))

[pallid vale]

nice

!dance

[vast river]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[pallid vale]

same, tea not coffee since is 10 PM in EU

[soft lava]

You're right. I humbly apologise to Xxpussyslayer69xX, I never should have called you out specifically

[harsh quiver]

😁

[inner shard]

when are they adding nuclear weapons to the game? it would be very realistic for my chef named Jim Gobstopper to be wielding a nuclear cannon

[narrow rampart]

cant wait for TIS to solve world hunger with the next patch 🙏

[untold oak]

and also break the planet in half while they're at it

[cyan drum]

minecraft and pz now share 2 things in common, issues with the turkish language lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1n6019q/in_the_latest_snapshot_the_turkish_translation/

[left valve]

man, atleast pay a native proof reader to go over it to spot that if you atleast cant be assed to hire translators...

but also, playing minecraft in anything but english feels like a crime

[harsh quiver]

Some wild turkeys crossed the road today, and all I was thinking was "wow, it's just like zomboid"

[stone cedar]

Man why is the loot at the AMZ Steel Mill actual garbage?

I came for indestructible molds and all I found were cockroaches

[cyan drum]

I have a turkey that roams my area, I can usually get pretty close to it. Even the deer in the background are pretty chill

It looks like the same type of turkey lol

[harsh quiver]

That is awesome, I love them! 😁

This is only my second time seeing them here, the last time was at quite a distance

[cyan drum]

Oh yeah, but turkeys are still spooked easily by cars and pets. The deer around here like to abandon their babies under cars and trees, so you can just walk up to them if they're very young.

[harsh quiver]

the two you see on the side walked right in front of us as if they were Quail, before I could get my phone out

[quaint dragon]

wow zomboid build 49.99 looks way too realistic , it looks like you have made it really far, how much time have u spent in this playthrough Ecn?

[remote edge]

+60 days still nothing new

[storm pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-cat-cat-stare-cat-zoom-cat-tongue-cat-dumb-gif-12034315536794818038

[broken sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/watchthisswag-catswag-cat-rigby-cat-gif-7623407359144548331

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/like-today-frozone-is-it-today-this-day-xset-gif-22850956

I want to start a new run, but I feel like with my luck as soon as I start a patch will come out. Screw it I will start one for you guys! Remember my sacrifice!

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/honor-thank-you-for-your-sacrifice-gif-15150963
*Honorable

[untold oak]

I think i'll join you. together we can do it! together our bad luck will bring a new dawn!

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-yes-lets-do-it-nick-cage-gif-4889456

[untold oak]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-driving-car-cute-gif-16109266

[spare junco]

Thats so breathtaking... I will join also! For you guys! For all people waiting for new patch... And especially for you XxPussySlayer69xX. Together we are strong!

[ocean idol]

XxPussySlayer69xX wanted me to ask yall when the fuck is that patch comming?

[full acorn]

I wanted no such thing

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-lisanalgaib-fremen-lisan-al-gaib-gif-13633185611076219756

[ocean idol]

NASKOO LET ME LIE IN PEACE

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/new-tardis-mod-gif-2427838661108834083

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cardy-butthole-checked-your-butthole-gif-22237405

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/kabangu-upset-annoyed-gif-14814728

[ocean willow]

https://tenor.com/view/gfleave-gif-20219429

[lime sky]

PussySlayer69? What the hell did I miss? Also when update? Also when mp? Also UWU??!

[honest narwhal]

W username change

[lapis jetty]

XxPussySlayer69xX simply cannot demand the update to another XxPussySlayer69xX without tearing the fabric of reality

Cunning move

[hollow sedge]

42.12 changelog : fix translation

Don't get me wrong, I really like the translation fixes.

[fallen leaf]

I love that it changed his name on all his posts

[left valve]

I mean yeah, thats how Discord works lol

[honest narwhal]

XxPussySlayer69xX keeping us posted on all the new updates

[buoyant orchid]

The Hero we always needed

[spare junco]

Patch 42.12.0 nicknames on discord changed

[patent edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcw-LpJzKls interesting video about suriving on a farm during a zombie apocalypse.

[fallen leaf]

what does that mean

[spare junco]

for patch b42.12.0 Team of TIS fixed the nicknames on discord. Nesko into XxPussySlayer69xX. Thats the patch we've been looking for

[patent edge]

lol

[minor kettle]

Lowkey I think they should add a new main menu screen

I like the one we have now but as long as its clean and no AI and whatnot I think it could be cool, marks a new stage in PZ but Iunno

[lethal glen]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[minor kettle]

[muted iris]

Honestly, hemorrhoids is something people need to check often.

[manic salmon]

Update in 2 minutes trust

I lied it’s in 30 minutes

[cyan drum]

6 5 days 18 hours and and 5 minutes

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can-hear-it-hero-boy-chris-the-polar-express-i-trust-gif-19504039

[manic salmon]

We still got 6 minutes

[nova crystal]

IT JUST A DREAM

[pallid vale]

:))))))))))))

why man? why ? I laughed so hard I almost choked on the coffee

xx\pussyslayer =)))))

I can't even type correctly :)))

[pallid vale]

that AI graphic was fine

it was new and fresh

let's be franc, 90% of users can't really distinguish between AI and non-AI graphics, one-two started this hysteria and the rest just trailed along like mindless sheep

making such assumptions without any real evidence or knowledge of AI graphics is both wrong and naive

In my opinion, it was handcrafted and augmented with AI, maybe some color filters, vibrance and occlusion

[rotund bridge]

Remember when there was no map?

Hard times

lol

[nova crystal]

remember when there no cars?

[pallid vale]

yes, I played in b38

good times

try it yourself, select it from the legacy builds and have at it

changes the gameplay loop dramatically

[left valve]

I'd be absolutely in favor of cars becoming more common, but in serious disrepair but for that we get stuff like bikes and horses for our smaller transport needs

[storm pebble]

XxPussySlayer69xX lore

[split gorge]

well, i'll give it a week or 2 until 42.12 unstable

[fallen leaf]

Lets just skip right to B42.13

Wait that one will be on halloween

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-johnnydepp-pirate-spooky-magic-gif-11075885606474700306

[terse fog]

hm

[neon sierra]

multiplayer releases tomorrow at 9am cst (can confirm)

[stark void]

Cap

[cyan drum]

I'm pretty sure, as far as educated guesses go, they're re-adding the ability to place corpses into cars and trash bins again in this next update.

Or maybe the next one after this if they didn't finish it in time.

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-stressed-out-stress-stressed-baby-crying-baby-gif-4784210311530660765

[pallid vale]

none of the above

[pallid vale]

?

you mean in very bad condition or wrecked?

I don't know what "serious disrepair" means

there are mods for that

Time Decrease Vehicle Condition

[left valve]

very bad condition

[pallid vale]

ok

[left valve]

so that a car is a investment and goal for endgame

let alone a entire collection

[pallid vale]

that mod I've mentioned is best mod

you can customize a lot of its setting in sandbox options

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448375286#:~:text=Updated version for b42 of my mod Time Decreases Car Condition.&text=This mod adds a chance,be customized in sandbox settings.

use it wisely 😛

if you set high chances, the cars will be mostly just the bodywork

missing all parts

[left valve]

i dont think I've seen a bike mod yet, tho

basicially primitive transport for the start, fancy cars later on

[pallid vale]

there are bike mods

just search the workshop

one I've used without any issues in 41

but I need to search for it

[pallid vale]

give it more

[terse fog]

Ok

[hard wedge]

oh no, nasko is back. XxPussySlayer69xX is gone forever

[lime sky]

https://tenor.com/view/o7-salute-f-gif-17335212373511490899

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-the-pink-maybe-this-day-ktp-happy-day-lucky-gif-16942039

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-pour-40-oz-dead-gif-15861879889501337298

[sharp granite]

His job was done, he slayed the pussy

and now he is an ordinary citizen once more

[fallen leaf]

What doth the rabbit say of the update timing

[sharp granite]

think that means

"PATCH NOW, FAST"

or maybe Luna is trying to be a xenomorph regarding the speed of her attack

She wants the patch so much the camera cannot capture her likeness, she simply attacks

on the other hand, she also is chilling and waiting for the patch, possibly implying devs should be allowed to cook

"Can we haz patch, pwetty pls kind sir NasKo?"

[gilded island]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-mysterion-the-sentimentalists-canadas-got-talent-brainstorming-gif-25318758

the next patch is coming

sometime this year. myes.

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-8314761793803326474

[sharp granite]

call the blacksmith guy

[fallen leaf]

Hahaha

[sharp granite]

he needs to start progressing hard in his endeavours

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

Started a new run yesterday and almost have level 7 haha

[sharp granite]

I'm just suffering passing time until stable

every time I start a save, the patch comes fast

[remote edge]

start now

[muted iris]

If the zombies around me are not dead, but normal people.... me_irl

[lime sky]

Then be a hero and start a new save.

[pallid vale]

that's also my problem, I don't finish my runs until the next patch drops and again a new save is required.....

[terse fog]

Hi

[pallid vale]

and I'm not touching the game again until a stable

or some major content drop that is interesting

[hollow sedge]

42.12 in a few hours

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wow-you-dont-say-michael-office-wow-michael-scott-gif-11124235989547302113

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-liar-you-sit-on-a-throne-of-lies-gif-17734593

[edgy ridge]

Do they drop patches just before they leave the office so they can dedicate the whole next day to hot fixes or do they just drop it when it's done.

[fallen leaf]

I don't think theres really a pattern

[left valve]

considering most of em work remote all over the world... its just whenever its done

but they also warned in .10 that future patches will be taking longer

[manic salmon]

Guys I know I was wrong 2 times but you gotta trust me

Update in 3 hours

[hollow sedge]

That's easy to say when I've already announced the patch for the next few hours.

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-a-word-youre-saying-lieutenant-barnes-summer-of-chills-influence-youre-lying-gif-23176339

[buoyant orchid]

the game itself feels imo already pretty stable

havent encountered in my recent playthroughs any critical/gamebreaking bugs that were not mod related

[left valve]

yeah, but there's still content missing which they are presumely focusing on right now

hence, why its taking longer

[buoyant orchid]

which is a good thing, cuz they have been cooking good so far ^^

[pallid vale]

check steam now and then

usually before a patch drops

shaders pre-cache update

[edgy ridge]

i watch steamDB every now and then

[pallid vale]

no no

steam launcher

[dapper moss]

You cant see as much now in steamdb than before b42.

People were going nuts watching steamdb

[edgy ridge]

I'm sure back before b42 release they dropped single character changes in the code of the internal builds so it seemed like they were doing something to make people go batshit crazy

[pallid vale]

you can't see the branches bc steam preforce now hides them

it's a new security policy they enforced

and since this is unstable, they push it when it's ready

always when it's ready

[manic salmon]

They’re waiting because of silksong actually

This one time is the exception

[spare junco]

Since b42 is still unstable, and no mp yet, everybody here gonna feel rel

https://youtube.com/shorts/5RsG2KjWJgY?si=_xy3jYdlnMVoztr7

[late saffron]

where 42.12.0 ?

[knotty junco]

C:/Users/xXPussySlayer69Xx/Zomboid/InternalBuilds/42.12.0v4352_Internal_noMPYet

[terse fog]

in just 2 days

[late saffron]

God is good

[nova crystal]

llllllllllllieeee

[nova crystal]

mark this day

25

the car suttering will be over

[pallid vale]

man I really need to start blocking more people here cauz it's getting annoying

[left valve]

yeah the joke was barely funny for 42.1, now its slowly getting annoying

[pallid vale]

the bot needs to timeout these users asking when x number > timeout 24h

when MP > 5 days ban

[nova crystal]

sure blub! i just wondering who said something about that in the past 24 hours?

[pallid vale]

just read the chat

and you will see

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-6287489991893889017

[fallen leaf]

I mean to be fair there is a permanent B42 chat, so there isn't much more to do in these patch specific chats OTHER than ask when the next one will come

since it also isn't the venue for reporting bugs

[spare junco]

Isn't the "when patch" similar to yours "ain't gonna touch game till stable"?

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-chosen-one-the-one-the-chosen-one-gif-4608823

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/update-no-update-no-more-updates-gif-3470407786722281006

[lime sky]

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho-100-update-not-today-gif-15912654188829006754

[pallid vale]

that question is both disturbing and wrong

do you see me here asking for the patch or mp on a regular basis?

[pallid vale]

there are a lot to discuss here like mechanics, features, bugs, improvements and they read this but when the chat is filled with memes regarding when mp when update, foolish speculations and all of that, I really agree with the devs that it's not worth it looking in here.......

[nova crystal]

its been like this for long long time i know the guys can handle those type of comments not saying it dont annoy sometimes

[lime sky]

At this point I'd settle for a minor update with just bug fixes. Just give me my monthly dose of drugs

I don't even play this game anymore I just want patch notes to look at.

[nova crystal]

yeah i can tell what you waiting for

M

[fallen leaf]

Im convinced they leave these chats open just for people to blow off steam about when the next update is haha. Most of them aren't even in this chat. Its brilliant really haha.

[devout sandal]

42.20.0 MP

[soft lava]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

In all seriousness though, we do sometimes get good stuff out of these posts, like understanding how big an issue actually is, or what features are working really well

[sharp granite]

containment zone for the worst of the worst goes brr

make XxPussySlayer69xX to post the release news of stable b42 for fun gaming website articles

[fallen leaf]

Hahahah the pocket dimension for impatient people has become self-aware!

[sharp granite]

And smart, having a balance of people opposing impatience, keeps the containment zone stable and not spilling out

[harsh halo]

You are all locked in here with our reaction gifs

[sharp granite]

We're not here locked in with you, you are here locked in with US. You are the ones who have to moderate and ensure this channel does not go wild

or that is the pre-downloaded story we're forced to believe in, to stay here and not spill out...

We cannot be allowed to wake up from the Matrix

[harsh halo]

I'm not a moderator, I'm allowed to ignore you as much as I want

[sharp granite]

I paid you a whole 15 euros back in 2017, you owe me your soul

Besides there's no moderators in these channels!

[harsh halo]

I paid too, whose soul do I own?

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-train-man-matrix-oh-gif-23313214

[sharp granite]

Of those who ever downloaded the mods you made

[harsh halo]

I'm particularly interesting in collecting them as my name suggests

[fallen leaf]

Soul Filcher is the train man, confirmed

[pallid vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317926995279089664/kZgmqy.gif

my god man that's so no true

Ok incoming block wave, don't try to reply to me again, I won't see it anymore

[edgy ridge]

Whoever said claiming to not play till stable is just as annoying as asking for a patch you need a slap

[nimble geode]

Not playing till the sex update releases in stable is the true test

[cyan drum]

TIS needs to make the equivalent response video to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6GfHdS2yoQ lol

The summary of the video from the description if you don't want to watch that:

Minecraft doesn't have an infinite render distance due to:

Technical barriers
Chunk count
Multiplayer Syncing
Distant Rendering
World gen
File size

Practical hurdles
Opportunity cost
The Mythical Man-month
Minecraft’s design
Demand

Reasons you may have heard but aren't correct:
Java as a language
MC isn’t optimized
Mojang Devs are lazy

[manic salmon]

Guys I KNOW I was wrong yesterday but

Update in 4 hours

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/prove-it-proof-patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-gif-18140011542991964976

[pallid vale]

that's my Billy !

[harsh halo]

No, that's the wrong Billy. Where's Right Billy?

[sharp granite]

playing the next patch

[sharp granite]

because it was released ergo that Billy was right

[hard wedge]

I'm using spears in this patch, and since I cut down a lot of trees, so many items fall to the ground. Is it okay to leave them there?

[pallid vale]

no, wildlife authorities will have a say in that

probably drag you to court

Puppers is playing the next patch

I mean testing

[fallen leaf]

who what where

[sharp granite]

if your sandbox settings do not have despawn timer on items on the ground, its okay

I definitely recall sandbox having such a parameter, but since some people play predefined difficulties, I don't know what is the default for them

[icy light]

unless you drop thousands of items at your base you should be fine

i remember opening like 300 packs of 9 mil at once and that destroyed my frames

[pallid vale]

24h If I recall for World removal

needs to be 0 if you don't want items to be removed from the ground

[pallid vale]

A Billy for your thoughts ?

[vestal shard]

i think items dont despawn on the ground unless its stuff like glasses and whatnot

i remember there being a setting but i, too, am not sure

[pallid vale]

Hours for world removal is default 24h

hats and glasses are the exceptions, they will always persist, rest will be removed

Check world removal whitelist

base.hats and base.glasses are there

on the sandbox settings it says if set to 0 items will not be removed

you must delete them from that sandbox box, or check remove as whitelist option

I must install zomboid and take some screenshots of those settings to show you how to do it

cauz it's a little bit hard to explain in chat without those

[icy light]

its the opposite

[pallid vale]

or the opposite yeah

that's why I need to see those settings clearly

[icy light]

glasses and hats will always be removed after a day (i think theres also something with maggots too but i forgot)

[pallid vale]

you can tune this to leave either hats/glasses or other items on so they won't despawn / be removed

if you have a low-end PC, leaving a lot of items on the ground will severly impact performance

[sharp granite]

I will not organize my loot unless I have an extra player doing it for me. -100 FPS "the loot pile" forever

[pallid vale]

or upgrade CPU

and RAMs

[pallid vale]

You know that with the home inventory mod this is now so awsome

to have it all sort out, the mod is a piece of art imo and should be there as a vanilla feature

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3522009163

[sharp granite]

maybe if I live in the woods in B42 proper, I dont have a massive pile of loot because I dont spawn in LV or otherwise have access to that much loot!

[pallid vale]

uf in the woods......

the full wilderness survival experience

[cyan raft]

update coming

[ocean willow]

He ain't wrong tho

[narrow rampart]

Anyone else on that short stone mace meta? 🙏

[pallid vale]

?

I haven't heard of this

the short bat was a meta

once, now no more

[icy light]

too high of a requirement to make over short bats for barely any benefit

[pallid vale]

well if you have boosts in masonry and carving, it's not that high of a requirement, you just need to fetch stones

leveling those skills is easy if you pick the traits

especially carving, so easy

but a constant inflow of stones is needed, wood can be found everywhere

[icy light]

yeah im just saying that the time you spend grinding masonry you could already be making short bats with nails and killing zombies with a weapon thats only slightly worse

[narrow rampart]

-double the crit chance
-longer lasting
-more damage
-more range

[pallid vale]

have you tested each one of them with debug or some item stats ?

I hardly believe it doubles the crit chance

I agree with longer range and damage

the durability is influenced by maintenance skill

if I have lvl 10, my short bat will last longer than your mace, assuming you're not also 10

lvl 10 maintenance is a bliss but for example I've maxed it out

[narrow rampart]

Has a cooler sound

[late saffron]

where is my update 42.12.0 ?

[broken plover]

will come out on december 24th 2025

[late saffron]

oh no

[quaint dragon]

Last prediction Monday sep 8

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-yeah-i-know-it-looks-bad-but-guys-you-gotta-believe-me-believe-me-gif-25302963

[edgy ridge]

sometime between now and after now

[pallid vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317926995279089664/kZgmqy.gif

I'm mad at myself for wasting my time typing all of that, it appears it's not worth it starting any convos with most users around here

you need to get your sh!t straight

[narrow rampart]

i just looked at the wiki numbers

and spoke from my experience using stone maces

imo they have to be top 5 short blunt

[coarse flume]

it nearly does

40% base vs 25%

4x crits instead of 2x

1.15 average damage per swing compared to 0.75

[coarse flume]

the item_weapons.txt file is in the games media folder, and is where the wiki gets all its weapon stats.

[coarse flume]

They really are. Top 3 I'd say

[edgy ridge]

looking into the numbers of PZ ruins it for me

[patent edge]

alternative care sites in PZ would add some nice scenes to show random buildings acting like refugee areas before they get swarmed by the zombies

[sharp granite]

a real zug zug weapon for the primitively inclined? what is your top 3 short blunt?

[edgy ridge]

go solely off what you have at your disposal and what you know from real life experience

[coarse flume]

Mace, Stone Mace, steel bar halves*

steel bar halves don't give maintenance xp, but they barely use any stamina per swing since they only weigh 0.75 while still doing as much damage as a hammer.

if you don't want to use something weird like that, I'd say regular cresent wrenches for no 3

[sharp granite]

mace from blacksmithing proper I assume

glad to see there's something else to life than short bats

[coarse flume]

masonry actually

masony 8, they're a very late game weapon

Oh, the regular mace is from blacksmithing, if that's what you mean.

[coarse flume]

they use short bats in the crafting recipe