42.11.0 Unstable Released

[terse fog]

as cool as it is

[sharp granite]

but a post-production world in the game, gotta devolve a bit but assuming zed population will diminish via various ways, give it a hundred years or so and humans can start reclaiming the world

[terse fog]

I also think, zombies will not be infinite, one day they will reach the top, where humans will not die so easily

If there was a zombie apocalypse I think we would survive

[remote edge]

probabyl armies not gonna fall that easily

[storm pebble]

Not if they sprint

[sharp granite]

if zombies can die to non-human means like starvation, animals preying on them and so on, they can lose their numbers

[storm pebble]

[terse fog]

Will the game have an objective after NPCs? Like killing all the zeds and saving the world, probably not

[sharp granite]

but PZ zombies ain't like TWD or other kind

[remote edge]

actualy they like twd

[terse fog]

Have you ever imagined zed variants?

like, fat zed, more resistance and less speed

[storm pebble]

alpha zombie in PZ

💀

[sharp granite]

we already have random zombie toughness and speed and strenght

[terse fog]

or rotted zed, a scratch would have 100% lethality

[terse fog]

yes

[sharp granite]

I would laugh if we got the TWD variant zombie that rages and kills other zombies and then explodes

the chain reaction

[remote edge]

what

[merry barn]

i dunno i feel like most people dont generally live that long would they even see something like that? maybe for a challenge map saving a npc would be neat or something

[remote edge]

when that was happen

[sharp granite]

if you're asking me, one of the spinoff series I havent watched, I just seen short clips

[terse fog]

it would be PRETTY cool

[remote edge]

oh ,spin offs are bullshit

[sharp granite]

any PZ player with infinite cheap spears IS the variant who slaughters a whole state

[storm pebble]

Project ZOMBOID tv show

[uncut tide]

I second this.

starring Clancy Brown.

[merry barn]

and flossie bagley

[uncut tide]

don't ask me how that works, but it will, trust.

[harsh quiver]

The Walking Zomboid

[left valve]

man i missed that AI debate

[coarse flume]

Regardless of if that's true or not, the loading screens looked really bad

[coarse flume]

zomboid is never going to have an ending besides you dying

BS.

Humans are naturally social and band together. If it was our nature to tear each other apart, we wouldn't have even got as far as we have as a species.

Lord of the flies is a work of fiction, not a documentary.

[vestal shard]

Nope hard disagree

Not pissing and shitting my pants while screaming like a baby = not caring about AI and not having a soul? Its going to be here whether we like it or not, and frankly the nee menu artworks that were briefly introduced to the game didnt stink wholly of it, i still viewed it as mostly original work, which is good enough for me. Theres also other games that make limited use of ai, like delta V rings of saturn on steam for its portraits, and it really doesnt impact anything at all

[coarse flume]

I didn't even know about the ai stuff but I literally winced when I saw this in game for the first time

I did like all the effects on the main menu though, that was great

it's this in between of realistic and cartoony and the lighting that feels like an unfinished 3d render that ruins it for me

I think that having it be more realistic like the cover art or going full on tounge in cheek cartoony like the steam card art would have turned out well

[vestal shard]

I see it as highly likely that the artwork we have here was either ai-assisted or simply styled in a way where it triggers a person's "oh, this might be ai" sense

[vestal shard]

Which wouldnt be surprising, maybe their artist has just gone down a path to make their work look like that by default as they progressed, i dont know
Clearly other people dont like it though

[coarse flume]

I'm talking about the quality outside of the ai

[cyan drum]

Multiplayer releases when they figure out what to use for loading screen, main menu, cover art

[vestal shard]

People wouldve probably been quiet if it was more gritty and had none of these goofy facial expressions

[uncut tide]

my only complaint would be

to try and keep the artwork consistent

NMRiH has a bunch of different artworks for its loading screens, and you can tell some of them were made by different people/with a different idea in mind.

[uncut tide]

I also like the detail that this image has a bunch of in-universe stuff in it like brands.

so it helps with making it recognizable when looking at it outside of its source.

[coarse flume]

that is nice, but I still really dislike the visuals

[uncut tide]

yeah, no. I agree.

what's the guy supposed to be looking at? why does he have blood on his hands? also, the pickup is modeled after the real life equivalent of the D6 instead of, you know, trying to make it look like how it is in-game.

[merry barn]

that is what it looked like to me that the artist's style just "evolved" from the car pic to that one in the hospital and after 10 years or so just got better over time, i really liked that hospital picture

[vestal shard]

yeah

shrug, i think they couldve kept it

[coarse flume]

nah it would have been a nonstop controversy

[vestal shard]

wouldnt be, if everyone was mature and only complained once

[harsh quiver]

People were so hyper focused on it, I was just excited to be messing with B42

[honest narwhal]

i think itd be cool if they looked like this or the actual in game character model theyre doing with the fliers

[brazen jewel]

Closest Seahorse Coffee I could find that resembles that image.https://b42map.com/?12576x1638

[honest narwhal]

im pretty sure it was supposed to be the one in west point

bc of the dude with an arm missing

[brazen jewel]

Picture is from westpoint in the lore, but cafe does not seem to match with anything there?

It's a normal building (from the newspaper)

[honest narwhal]

oh yea lore, but your right about the actual picture

[brazen jewel]

PZ lore is so nice and open-ended.

You get a solid set of TV channels and radio shows before things go kaput.

[honest narwhal]

i hope they add remnants of the old border near west point someday

like before it was expanded to LV

[brazen jewel]

Westpoint bridge, bunch of sandbags and broken fences

Also nice if they add in humvee wrecks or mg mounts, even if we cannot use/drive them.

[spare junco]

I've got a question, there is a "bug" when the zombie is crawling through a fence, and its on ground the outline of hitable zombie is highlighted (like its in range or something), but instead of stomping character trying to push the zombie which in result gives nothing but just reset the CD of hit, and stuck you in delayed action, and the zombie is easly possible to fall you down. Do you know if its going to be fix or its intended?

[soft lava]

That certainly doesn't sound intentional. We'll need more information to make sure. If this is happening on a fresh save without mods then I'd recommend filing a bug report and we can investigate the issue.

!bugreport

[vast river]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[soft lava]

make sure to read the Bug Reporting Guide at either forum

[left valve]

I think using AI as a tool for something like dev assets is fine, just actually bother to replace them when whatever you are supposed to release is ready to release

besides the morals my biggest gripe with it is just how same-y most of the generative ai images look, the few artstyles AI can do slowly turn into comic sans, but also vibecoding in production, that very much scares me

[buoyant orchid]

In my opinion ai is not necessarily bad. It strongly depends on its use and what people do with it. I come from an industry where people need to send us their art/graphics for their products and personally I prefer if it's ai or made with ai instead of something that has been clearly made in paint

[left valve]

yeah, that would fall under the dev assets category, i do use AI generated textures when testing new things, but i generally still force have an artist friend draw me up some actual texture for anything release related, its a tool, not the entire process which is how a lot of people seem/want to use it

[buoyant orchid]

Indeed

[rugged lotus]

Just give us more stuff that's similar to an already existing main menu

It's amazing

[terse fog]

hi

I came to talk about project zomboid

What do you think is missing from the game, and what do you think is already good?

I want to understand your mind

[rugged lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cute-upset-reverse-reversed-gif-27578623

[honest narwhal]

maybe a few more guns, not like heavy full auto guns but just a bit more variety in general

or proper sniper would be great

[merry barn]

more crust

[terse fog]

what

what do you mean more crust

[terse fog]

It would be interesting, it came with silencers

I think it should be harder, not in terms of the number of zombies or anything like that, but in terms of mechanics

like, you get into a terminal state and walk away like nothing happened

Does anyone know how to use the error magnifier mod?

[merry barn]

more enviormental decay and crusty clutter n stuffs for 12 months laters and over time !

[cyan raft]

update day

[terse fog]

actually, the map is very clean for an apocalypse

[terse fog]

when

[cyan raft]

idk maybe now

[terse fog]

There was already an update this month, bro

probably only next month

every update is a box of surprises, I like that

[honest narwhal]

next update should add bows

[left valve]

cheese stuffed crust, i do would enjoy a more realistic medical system, than a magic bar

[honest narwhal]

more illnesses owuld maybe be interesting

maybe requiring you to scavenge pharmacies for specific meds

[left valve]

would also be interesting to have some advanced medical, so stuff like fluid/blood management, proper wound treatment instead of just "yeah you kinda just slap a bandage on it and wait" would also give more of a reason to play doctor/nurse for multiplayer runs

[merry barn]

lol , hey i like my slappin bandage on infected wounds of never

[left valve]

cant wait for servers coming up with insurance systems

[merry barn]

lmao

[cyan drum]

I HAVE to assume they're reworking the claim system for multiplayer because of animals... right? We can put a car in a house, but you can't keep every animal inside one when they're out in the middle of the field!

[rotund bridge]

@harsh quiver we should survive on a public server together when the update hits

[left valve]

build a wall!

pretty sure large gates can be locked, too

[cyan drum]

[left valve]

More wall!

Or well, just play on roleplay/semi-roleplay servers that have stricter rules on griefing and moderate accordingly

[merry barn]

wallplay

[harsh quiver]

😅 I don't normally do public servers, but that could be wild lol

[muted iris]

It seems people are now accepting the fact the game has a story of the power going out because of a dead squirrel object near a electric transformer, hinting it was the squirrel who bit on the wires triggering a short circuit.

Nice environmental storytelling.

[sharp granite]

its possible, my bunny got access to forbidden places by wrangling with heavier metal fences to chew on an extender cord, sending white sparks flying as everything was powered at the time

[harsh quiver]

[sharp granite]

For the record, wasn't Luna, was her sister

[harsh quiver]

Ohh, still scary

[sharp granite]

Luna is a good girl, her sister is a war criminal, registered sex offender

don't ask further, but possible for smallest things to cause biggest damages lol

[harsh quiver]

😅

[vestal shard]

they couldve given the people working on the newspapers and flyer graphics some more work by tasking them with creating multiple main menu artworks

since its already in the game's style i dont think anyone would protest against it

[harsh quiver]

That's what I was saying as well, Unconid (and I cannot for the life of me remember the other creator's name sadly) already have their style going on, lean into that aesthetic

I think most people really like it, I have seen nothing but praise for the fliers and stuff

[muted iris]

Did the devs said anything about adding sickles to harvest certain crop types, like wheat, tomato, sunflower, and such?

The weapon, sickle, that is?

[vestal shard]

? we already have a sickle in the game
i'm pretty sure you can already harvest grains with it, just like with a scythe

[left valve]

Tbf, grid maintenance is a nightmare so it just stopping working when there is no one to maintain it does make sense

[vestal shard]

if 99% of the population died out then im sure the remaining people who have any idea how to maintain large grids like that are too busy dealing with their own stuff

[edgy ridge]

There's a 3D menu background mod if that placates you for the meantime

It's pretty good too

[magic path]

multiplayer update when

[muted iris]

Oh my goodness... just that I couldn't find it and was wondering if it was me or the game.

[vestal shard]

its probably just rare

ive found more scythes than sickles from my experience

however, a scythe cannot be used as a weapon, while a sickle can

[honest narwhal]

why cant we use it as a weapon? it would make a perfect long blade weapon

[vestal shard]

your message gave me a stroke

[honest narwhal]

why

oh I just saw lol mb

there thats what I was attempting to say lol

[untold oak]

Yea about mp and animals, as long as some random guy can walk up to your walls and fire a gun to spook your animals, we’re going to have a bad time. All someone has to do to grief you is make a loud noise close to your base and your animals will break all walls and objects. Unless that’s changed this update, I did only skim the patch notes

Where’s the sandbox setting to turn off animals damaging objects

[harsh quiver]

There are so many easy ways to grief other players in this game. Can just add it to the list 🤣

[narrow rampart]

hide your animals

[left valve]

not me starting a bleach diner

[merry barn]

Id be more worried about being a server operator and players making mc farms with hundreds of animals lol

[muted iris]

Animal birth avalanches, let's gooo

[merry barn]

Ahahaha

Me running over my friends animals

[untold oak]

Nobody even needs to know you have animals for them to grief you, intentionally or not. The only thing they need to do is shoot a gun near your base

[merry barn]

Me turnibg on animals attract zombies eithout telling people

[left valve]

that is evil, I'm so gonna do it

[merry barn]

Hahaha

[harsh quiver]

Tbh I will not be telling people that is an option and just have it on 😆

[half vessel]

yo so pz mp update yes or yes?

[harsh quiver]

+1 month

[half vessel]

ah shit.. srry guys..

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[novel pagoda]

I know we're waiting for b42 mp but whens b43 guys

[left valve]

When the moon collides with the sun or vice versa

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/inefablejuly-toro-inoue-watching-the-sunset-gif-10762169954015125127

[storm pebble]

[magic path]

⚰️

[cedar stone]

tomorrow

[untold oak]

What are you guys talking about, b45 came out 30 years ago. Wake up

[novel pagoda]

It did?

Where can i get it

[untold oak]

You’ve been asleep a very long time, it’s fine to wake up. Zomboid needs you

[novel pagoda]

O-O

[spare junco]

There was one episode of southpark where Cartman froze himself in mountain to hibernate till new PS console came out cuz he couldn't resist the desire and waiting time

Not like I'm suggesting something, but well... There is a solution to speed up the b42 release for you guys!

[tribal aspen]

🧊

[ocean willow]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-outlaws-han-solo-kay-vess-freeze-solo-gif-16794872574799661791

[muted iris]

This feels like a reference to Jojo Bizarre Adventure somehow.

[sharp granite]

You thought it was the b42 mp, but it was me, Dio!

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-morning-cigarette-waking-up-wake-up-gif-19444831

[rough tide]

Give us MP ]

[vestal shard]

not yet

[honest narwhal]

MP in 67 days

[merry barn]

[edgy ridge]

MP is post Christmas pre Easter

The people that compared 41 unstable to this unstable in terms of time were right

[broken plover]

y'all wait for mp while all I want is to have car animations and armor

[honest narwhal]

car armor would be so nice

itd give a better use to welding

[broken plover]

I just want to see a character actually get in the car and not teleport inside

[honest narwhal]

thatd be sick aswell

[broken plover]

it's already done with mods, I don't know why this is taking this long
ragdolls were more difficult to implement than this

[honest narwhal]

the ragdolls are cool but imo they dont rlly seem like that much of a priority to be added

[coarse flume]

the animations are there in debug only cars you can spawn in, they have for years, they're just not happy with them for some reason

[manic salmon]

This is just speculation but I THINK the grapple tech could be used for car animations so that may be why

As in the player interacts with the car

[ocean willow]

U can test out car animations in debug mode

They are already indevelopment.

[broken plover]

imagine killing a military zombie and putting them into a trunk of a car with a fancy animation

[manic salmon]

Yeah but it could be that those are early versions of a more advanced system with grapple tech

[ocean willow]

Grapple tech wasnt used for ingame doors

[manic salmon]

I have NO idea though because I’m not a dev

[ocean willow]

So i doubt we’ll get car animations that involve grapple tech

[manic salmon]

Do you wanna wait for your character to open every single door you come across

Cars make more sense to me because they already take time to get in them

It’s not instant

[untold oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/762624017168728065/1407167111620595712/image0.gif

[ocean willow]

so like

does project zomboid use hitscans for their guns?

ive been curious because we dont have "projectiles" in game

[coarse flume]

yes

some people were mistaken that it was a projectile on b42 launch though

[ocean willow]

i doubt bow and arrows would work properly using hitscans it'd be possible but not really optimal

it would also be weird if bows and arrows used projectiles tho and guns didnt

[coarse flume]

I think that's why bows and arrows (which we know are coming) were not part of the initial b42 launch

[ocean willow]

they could use a high quality texture that is animated???

but it would look weird...

[ocean willow]

the thing is the devs have continued saying bows will most likely fit into b42

but with the lack of "projectile system" updates i doubt it...

[coarse flume]

Eh there's a lot with firearms that I don't think is done yet

there's a whole fancy new debugger that hasn't come out yet

[ocean willow]

to be honest maybe the reason they havent fixed b42's gun damage bug is because guns are getting a rework?

[coarse flume]

that could be it

[ocean willow]

swapping the reworked aiming system to work with a new projectile system wouldnt be hard

so its not like they'd lose anything or have to recode guns again

but something that supports this is the recent adding of limb hitboxes

we know this is due to them considering adding limb dismemberment in b43 onwards

but it could also be for projectiles?

shoot arrow at zombie arm it sticks into its arm pull it out boom u got ur arrow back

[manic salmon]

Wait the new gun system isnt projectile based?

[ocean willow]

for zombies.

[ocean willow]

no theres no new gun system yet

[ocean willow]

could also work for having lodged bullets into zombie arms etc

zombies didnt really have limb damage like players until now

[manic salmon]

There litterally is though? At least in unstable

[ocean willow]

the gun system itself didnt get changed

just the aiming and rng tweaked

[manic salmon]

No the guns actually use bullets now

[ocean willow]

no they do not.

[manic salmon]

It’s not like build 41

[ocean willow]

they use hitscans still

[ocean willow]

there is no bullet texture or model or anything just muzzle flare

no actual bullet is being shot in b42

the way guns work in b42 is you aim at a zombie somewhere at their body and the hitscan collides with the hitbox of that zombie causing damage depending on the roll chance

either you miss you hit or you critical hit

no actual bullet is being shot

when fighting players lodged bullets go into their body wherever they are shot at but the way that happens is the same way damage is calculated

[manic salmon]

no there is at least a bullet texture, you can see it flying for a second

[ocean willow]

no there isnt

[icy light]

theres a "projectile" but its still hitscan

[coarse flume]

that's just for visuals

[ocean willow]

its not a projectile

you're seeing a particle trail that has glow and than turns fully transparent after a bit to simulate speed and hitting a target

it vanishes after like a millisecond

and it looks nothing like a bullet

[coarse flume]

it would be really cool if hitting headshots were how you got crits with guns

or if it acutally did anything desides cause a ragdoll

[ocean willow]

it rarely even reaches a target

[ocean willow]

sully and someone else i talked to said dismemberment is planned but they dont know how to implement it yet

its a 50/50 they continue to consider adding

its not "high priority" tho

they already introduced dismemberment visuals in the newspapers if you want to see how it'll look

[coarse flume]

I wonder if I could make a mod to make headshots be guaranteed crits

I'm not sure where in the code it checks to see where you hit the zombie

[ocean willow]

im pretty sure headshots are an actual property in the game somehow

cuz where u aim def matters.

if you aim at like nothing it obv wont hit a zombie unless the cursor is on the zombie

but if you aim at their head it does damage but if you aim at like their ear it doesnt

which means the hitboxes are most likely multiple tiny ones.

[coarse flume]

well yeah, we can see what they look like, one second

[ocean willow]

i havent taken a look at their hitboxes

[coarse flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/1400612873671147570/Shootingbodies.mp4?ex=68a8f563&is=68a7a3e3&hm=d209c93a3d616790c59b692e5da4b47521a3bd66a8bae4e803a7dddde7da2766&

[ocean willow]

im not a modder for this game i just know how game dev works

[ocean willow]

yeah you could make a headshot mod

i already know how

for each aiming level give the head an increased chance of critical hit

so when ur level 10 hitting the head is optimal

0.27 for head at 0

0.37 at 1

or something.

making it scale off the aiming stat is the only balanced way to introduce a headshot multiplier

obv dif guns should have different damage to the head

shotgun should do slightly more headshot damage than a pistol

[coarse flume]

the main thing would just be that I dunno if the stuff where the game figures out where the zombie gets hit is in the java, or in the lua

Since I don't think mods can access the java, but I'm not a modder either, just someone who's spent way too long figuring out the inner workings of the game

[ocean willow]

im pretty sure its the lua

theres multiple firearm mods and aiming mods that have changed how damage values to zombies work

[coarse flume]

damage values are super easy to change, I've done it myself, but actually changing damage based on where the zombie gets hit is a different thing

[ocean willow]

realistic aiming overhaul did it?

[coarse flume]

okay I have no idea how AT works I will admit

[left valve]

you can technically patch java classes

but it has to be done manually via replacing them in the folder

but if i remember it correctly no support is granted for it

[coarse flume]

yeah, like better car physics

[left valve]

but I am pretty sure this one https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3036878362 has already implemented all that you want, with lua

[coarse flume]

no, not really

I don't want an overhaul, I just wanted to make it so that hitting a zombie in the head increases crit chance.

[patent edge]

we need the ability to chop a zombies head off

[gilded island]

It came to me again... in a dream! The next update, it's... it's...

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-mysterion-the-sentimentalists-canadas-got-talent-brainstorming-gif-25318758

Coming sometime this year. Myes.

[sturdy totem]

I love this game. Can't wait till i will play it released fully :))

[cyan drum]

I just hope that with this new leather drying system, it makes either making vanilla or modding drying meat and fish a thing

[sturdy totem]

Yeah, it sounds cool

I hope my crush would want to play this masterpiece so i can be rejected but atleast i will do something good showing her this game

[cyan drum]

Remove more of these random context menu options that have no use so we have some consistency here. If someone wants to smash a window, let them swing a weapon at it or use the context menu for vehicles (v). If someone wants to view the mechanics of a car, let them figure out it's under the hood. If someone wants to forage, they can literally just click the foraging button on the left of their screen (the phrase "Investigate This Area" is a terrible phrase for it fyi).

[merry barn]

you can swing at the window

[cyan drum]

Exactly

[merry barn]

its a lot easier to press v and window smash or especially on controller too

[cyan drum]

Either is better than right clicking it

My point is that, if they really want to remove right click context options, barricades was the worst place to start.

Removing foraging would have gone unnoticed, most wouldn't have cared, and it could have eased people into this new thing of less right clicking.

[merry barn]

think we should wait and see what they do with it, im still indifferent but it is nicer on steamdeck for sure, its really annoying with all the right clickers

[cyan drum]

I'm okay with where they're going with the removal of as many right click options as possible, but I just think it was a bad starting point

They could literally just delete these context options and that would be that, end of it, update done, the systems are already in place to do it another way. Barricades being moved was out of left field and threw some people off in a bad way, obviously it's for testing, but it would have just been easier ya know.

[sturdy totem]

They should also add voice volume. You can't whisper in multiplayer, which can ruin a lot of the action in the game.

[rugged lotus]

It cannot be removed until devs do an actual tutorial on all hockeys🙏 🥀

[harsh halo]

Not out of left field, Building tile objects on the map was moved to the new menu, including things that were historically very different, campfires, barricades. Those other options you mentioned are a good point, I agree they could also be removed.

[terse fog]

hi

I came to talk about my favorite game

Does anyone know anything about the next update?

[merry barn]

its a surprise

[modern nebula]

yo when are we getting mp for b42, i'm dying

[untold oak]

yesterday

[modern nebula]

are you for real life?

[broken plover]

MP was canceled

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254908793301766197/1399231684544827432/doc_2025-07-28_05-19-39-ezgif.com-resize1.gif

[terse fog]

dont

has not been canceled

just take it easy

[modern nebula]

i'll listen to Chrollo here

[twilit edge]

I’ll place a hundred dollars on it coming out this Friday

[soft lava]

I'll take that bet

wait... isn't today Friday?

[merry barn]

lol

[left valve]

laughs in Saturday

[hard wedge]

It would be great to be able to know when my character has completely rested when I sit on the ground to rest, similar to how it was when I sat down to rest in a chair in b41. Any plans to add this in b42?

[formal niche]

there was no sitting down in chairs in B41 unless it was a mod

[vestal shard]

correct

b41 had no sitting on furniture

[harsh quiver]

Yes but if you were next to a chair in B41 you could right click the chair and rest

There was a progress bar, even in vanilla

That is where the degen chair Meta came in

Bring chairs everywhere you go and drop them to regain your stam quicker

[coarse flume]

the progress bar wasn't actually tied to your stamina regeneration, I don't know what it was for

like you could be done resting but not recovered or stamina, or vice versa

[harsh quiver]

It most definitely recovered exertion faster. Is it possible you are referring to the basically hard cap on exertion? Eventually regardless of using the rest function you are forced to sleep eventually. It's a mechanic that was added in 2014

[coarse flume]

I don't see how this is country to what I said

Yes, you recover stamina faster while resting in a chair

I'm saying that the bar that would go while you were resting was seemingly arbitrary, since it would stop sometimes before stamina was fully recovered, or vice versa

[harsh quiver]

Not sure I ever experienced that, it always just worked for me

Even when testing in debug

[icy light]

the only times that the bar worked differently for me was when i using using trait mods

but in vanilla gameplay it worked fine

and with stats bars you could tell that it was 100% correct

[spring berry]

i'm playing a farming run....and there a re few incongruences , where i should report them? in bugs or suggestions?

[fierce spindle]

Ikr i hate these moodles lmao

[hard wedge]

I've never done this test, but it's a little annoying not knowing if I'm fully recovered.

[vestal shard]

what do you mean?

[merry barn]

i think in bug reports

[vestal shard]

??

whats a incongruency

what in the premium english is that word

[merry barn]

i have no idea lol

that hurt my smooth brain

[sharp granite]

inconsistency

[spring berry]

sorry i typed an extra i

[spring berry]

incongruence
noun [ U ]
uk /ɪnˈkɒŋ.ɡru.əns/ us /ɪnˈkɑːŋ.ɡru.əns/
formal
the state of not being suitable or not fitting well with something else:

[vestal shard]

oh its uk no wonder

[muted iris]

Nice to learn in 42.11 vanilla (unmodded), you can forage up a railroad track metal piece. Encumbrance 40, Foraging EXP around 60. (Source: Reddit)

[sharp granite]

thats a lot of metal to forge with

[vestal shard]

true true

[remote edge]

42.12 when

[honest narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-professor-farnsworth-bender-gif-25198969

[rugged lotus]

Just an oopsie daisy from a construction worker

[harsh quiver]

"Oh that's where I left that"

[rugged lotus]

🥀

[muted iris]

🤔 Railroad tracks, shouldn't they be called railroad girders? They're both H-shaped (or I-shaped).

[left valve]

i wonder if we can go cut up railroad pieces

that would be pretty hilarious

[ocean willow]

release the patch

its been long enough sully

tell them to release it we

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-i-need-it-spongebob-gif-11796572

[ornate prairie]

Hello! I’ve recently updated to Build 42.11 (unstable) but unfortunately it’s been too unstable for me to play. I would like to roll back to the previous Build 42.10.

However, I can’t find it in the Steam Betas menu – only Build 41 versions are listed. Could you please provide a beta branch code or a way to access Build 42.10 or older?

Thanks a lot for your help!

[harsh quiver]

For the unstable branch they generally don't allow access to older builds (at least in B42, they did a few times in B41) - I usually recommend to people to create a copy of the steamapps project zomboid data and then make sure to create a shortcut, and then add "-nosteam" to the target, that makes it so you will never have to upgrade if you launch it. Unfortunately that doesn't help you get back to 42.10, but might be helpful in the future

[ornate prairie]

Tks. This is very usefull. 👊🏼👊🏼

[harsh quiver]

❤️

[soft lava]

Well we were going to, but now that you've asked for it we need to delay it another week... way to go.

[ocean willow]

im going to save the indie stone society...

[merry barn]

can we have edible erasers

[broken plover]

Jan 19th 2036

[terse fog]

One question, when bows and arrows arrive, will crossbows arrive at the same time?

[ocean willow]

i doubt it

the devs havent confirmed anything really because it causes problems with our OVER EXPECTANT community

[terse fog]

me too

[ocean willow]

bows will happen eventually but crossbows have never been even name dropped

i imagine they'll be added maybe as a higher tier loot that spawns in military and gun stores

[terse fog]

[ocean willow]

bow and arrows and crossbows could have many many variants

compound and military grade and than just a hand crafted one

[terse fog]

I believe in this a lot

with bows it might be possible to train aim more easily

I don't really care about multiplayer

I've never played a game that made me feel as alone as Project Zomboid

[spare junco]

Stake should be a bolt for crossbows

[harsh quiver]

That is what makes multiplayer so good, because you can share the pain, suffering, and laughter together. I love solo so much, but there is something special about bonking zeds with your friends.

(and non-friends)

[merry barn]

*bonking them on the head

[terse fog]

I translated your sentence, and I thought the part about having sex was a translator's mistake lol

[merry barn]

lol

[terse fog]

I played multiplayer today, I watched my friend being slowly devoured by a single woman (It was the bride)

I liked

[harsh quiver]

🤣

[terse fog]

in multiplayer there must be troll players

who kill you for fun

(I am one of those people)

[merry barn]

my friend went afk once and i barricaded and put furniture infront of the door

[terse fog]

lol

[harsh quiver]

This happened to me recently! 😁

[merry barn]

lmao, gotta stay safe duh

[harsh quiver]

Makes sense!

[terse fog]

Does anyone know a way to lower the ping in multiplayer? For some reason, when I play alone it doesn't crash, but when I play with my friend it starts to crash like crazy

[merry barn]

i wanna know how much damage the railroad puller does to my friends head lol

[harsh quiver]

[terse fog]

I ate my friend, it would be interesting to have this mechanic in the game too

[harsh quiver]

Due to ratings I feel like that is a no (it was on the old commonly suggested suggestions aka the big no list - but that post is not longer around)

But there is a mod for it

[merry barn]

ill eat my friends eggs tho

"my chicken aint laying eggs halp"

[harsh quiver]

This is the way

[terse fog]

I recently saw a print, which showed the proteins in the body, lipids, etc., I wanted to know if this is a mod, or in the game you need all of this too

[harsh quiver]

It's in game, but not balanced right now

[drifting mulch]

We need blenders for cabbage smoothies

[sleek marsh]

we need to see how much protein we can get in a zomboid characters body at once before dying

[terse fog]

crossbows

[terse fog]

I think the sadness moodle should be taken more seriously

[ocean willow]

Its already detrimental to a playthrough if u dont manage it

Antidepressants are way too good tho they need a nerf

[muted iris]

What happens if we don't manage it?

[merry barn]

ew lol , cabbage smoothie what the heck

although i guess it could be good since cabbage is kina sweet

[ocean willow]

Sadness makes all ur moodles harder to manage

And causes combat debuffs worse than tiredness

[merry barn]

nooo my rotten food binging

[muted iris]

Hmmm, I just played 42.11 unmodded. I was able to fight against multiple zombies while still having combat debuffs. The stomp is really OP... critical hits instantly, and effectively overrides the combat debuffs, making it feel as if the depression, tiredness, fatigue, and painful moodles don't really mean much. 🤔

The only thing that's probably important to note, I have to lure zombies 1 by 1. Can't really manage when more than 3 zombies are chasing me.

[spring berry]

anyone notice that the towing is quite impossible to do?

[merry barn]

what condition is the vehicle in that youre trying to use?

in 42 chat someone told me to check tire pressure and that helped with some towing for me

[spring berry]

ok thanks ill chek

the condition is 96

but is bugged or it's just lije that?

[muted iris]

What about engine type?

Vehicle engines can tell you whether they can tow bigger cars.

[spring berry]

wi have to check

heavy duty 1200hp

[muted iris]

And you're towing what thing?

[spring berry]

same vehicle

[muted iris]

The only way to tow the same vehicle type is to tow it in reverse.

[spring berry]

reverse?

u mean with reverse gear?

[muted iris]

Yes, hook the object you're towing at the front, then tow in reverse.

Yes

[spring berry]

ok i'll try

but is intentional or it's a bug?

[muted iris]

Intentional

If it was a bug, it would have been fixed since Build 42.0.0.

This feature existed in Build 41.

[spring berry]

i never had in b41

another thing i don't understand7

is aiteron is working with them

[muted iris]

I have no idea

[spring berry]

and still they didn't add the nedd of a rope for towning

he made the towing mod

[muted iris]

Again, I have no idea.

[spring berry]

i'm not asking i'm just saying

i canno t wait for the stable so i can use mods

[muted iris]

You can use the mods right now in Unstable 42.

[spring berry]

i know but i want to find the bugs and with the mods can be a problem

[merry barn]

yah i wait for stable too regarding mods

i have also only seen problems with people using them when patches come out

[spring berry]

exactly

i'm really waiting to use the mod for turning on the placed lanterns

[terse fog]

crossbows

[muted iris]

We all know.

[merry barn]

ok but when will we get ragdolls for running over animals!!!

[muted iris]

Build 42.30 /s

[twilit edge]

The update for multiplayer will come next Friday 1000 dollar

[harsh quiver]

Yes he is working with TIS, or was last I checked. Last that I am aware of his focuses were on new fishing mini game and the new built in mod manager - maybe hasn't gotten around to the towing or the quality isn't quite where they want it yet

[drifting mulch]

You can’t actually taste it, it’s virtual

[merry barn]

listen here smart butt lol

[terse fog]

crossbows

[harsh quiver]

New gag moodle unlocked

Special animation just for that

[cyan drum]

what's with the free-for-all highway intersection here lol

no lines, no signs, the lanes are all jumbled up lol

[merry barn]

tuning fork rd

[harsh quiver]

Just Kentucky things

[quaint dragon]

Update today™️ or tomorrow™️ trust™️

https://tenor.com/view/wiggle-shimmy-shake-excited-happy-gif-2701292675052069679

[cyan drum]

nah, sept 2nd for sure

[spare junco]

Does anyone knows how exactly fishing works now? Is it fully random, or there are any "tactics"? I have feeling like there is something that trigger the fish catching, like some specific movement, but i cant be sure

[unkempt meteor]

You can reel while fishing but the bobber should remain within the "bubble" area

[fallen leaf]

You must stop trying to catch the fish, and catch the fish

[noble jackal]

Do or do not. There is no try

[muted iris]

Dodon't? (Hard to mix the Do's and Don'ts together.)

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-creasing-forehead-the-office-office-absolutely-gif-11888908

[ocean idol]

Ya'll think we'll get b42 mp within this year?

or is that me being too hopeful?

No troll genuine question

[half vessel]

Dude you delayed it by a week again.. everytime we mention mp, they delay it by a week.. thanks..

[noble jackal]

It’s exponential now. We have to wait until the third heat death of the universe

[rough tide]

is very anoying that they dont comunicate on the most awaited feature

[muted iris]

No, 2027.

[pallid vale]

it's their emo

[muted iris]

And that's just an early estimate.

[noble jackal]

Last time they even mentioned certain features, folks went haywire when it was delayed

[pallid vale]

because most of them are kids

[muted iris]

Did you actually see the backlash close to a year ago? It was so wild, people started harassing others. No way, Jose, are they going to repeat the same thing again.

[pallid vale]

and if you don't give em their toys they cry

[pallid vale]

there is no ETA on that, no estimates, nothing, they will announce that

[muted iris]

And just lower your expectations to nil.

All of you will be happy.

[ocean idol]

You guys are indiestones strongest soldiers

[muted iris]

Come over to Paradox Interactive and our Cities Skylines 2 frontlines. 💀

[pallid vale]

and yet, they don't love us

[merry barn]

lol cannot imagine what its like for a aaa community

[muted iris]

Yeah. Compared to them, TIS and Project Zomboid is nothing.

[merry barn]

lol

[ocean idol]

They wouldnt do it without yall bravely fighting off all these people. Thanks to you, they can sleep at night safely, knowing they are protected from any important questions amd answers

Respect honestly

[muted iris]

The ones leading the helm is Nintendo.

[merry barn]

im so autism i cant tell if theyre joking lol

[muted iris]

You have no idea.... Paradox Interactive Cities Skylines 2 on Switch 2...

[edgy ridge]

Backlash was because someone important made a claim that wasn't true, that claim went viral, indie stone definitely knew about it, and did nothing to shut it down until said claim was found out to be false. And then blamed all of us for trusting the words of one of their own devs.

The threats weren't right but the backlash wasn't uncalled for

[merry barn]

are you talking about "THE INCIDENT"

[edgy ridge]

Half way through 2024

[ocean idol]

No bro Im 100% serious. I think indiestones defenders should get a complementary dev role on discord, I just KNOW that would be "heckin epic" in their eyes.

[muted iris]

Yeah, it did get out of hand... If I recalled, the community mentioned that that event is the second time it happened, with the first one with Build 41's multiplayer.

[pallid vale]

nobody is asking us to do this

we are here following development

[merry barn]

hey i thought we were meat riders

at least steam forums calls us that lol penisham brigade

[ocean idol]

Its ok bro just be patient I know you been waiting 4 years js give them time bro only 5 more years trust the process bro how dare you ask for multipl*yer

[muted iris]

Personally, I'm just glad I joined PZ after the incident happened in 2024. I'm a 2025 newbie.

[merry barn]

oh the when one of the devs was being optimistic ?

[edgy ridge]

I wasn't there for the first one, but the second one was definitely wild. Both sides were wrong and they still choose to ignore certain details every time it comes up

[merry barn]

that was uhh , weird how the community handled it , needless to say i have no desire to interact with reddit part of the community due to that

[ocean idol]

WHAT? MEAT RIDERS? Just cuz you blindly protect indiestones and call people who ask for a basic function of the game that they bought the whole game for children? No way vro

[muted iris]

Probably those details aren't set in stone, and no one on TIS can reliably say about it.

[merry barn]

oh ok youre just being mean now lol

[ocean idol]

No bro Im 100% w you on this trust

[edgy ridge]

It was more that it circulated through major PZ news outlets and the team decided that it wasn't worth addressing like it wasn't the standard belief for the whole community at the time

[merry barn]

uhh wrong

[edgy ridge]

They never once tried to shut it down until well after the due date

[ocean idol]

If you guys push the subject of mp b42 too much, devs might get mad and threaten to sell game IP again.

So tone it down p

[merry barn]

ugh

[edgy ridge]

And that, that was a major spoiled toddler move

[merry barn]

i find it funny how the community is allowed to vent their frustrations but the devs cant lol

like i have seen people say some cruel shit

[edgy ridge]

Cruel shit wherever you go on the internet, doesn't mean they can guilt trip the community into feeling bad about being even slightly annoyed at false information from a trusted source that went unvetted for months

[ocean idol]

You dont see me saying I will sell my house and move to Turkmenistan just cuz some people on the internet were mad at my lack of communication/ undelivered promises

[merry barn]

what undelivered promises? build 42 has its first set of npcs?? lol

[merry barn]

It was not guilt tripping

[edgy ridge]

Don't say promise, it wasn't a promise, it was an uncorrected information drop

[ocean idol]

Look, my main proof and point is that most of the defenders of their actions that I've seen here started playing PZ half a yea to a year ago. Theres been people in here legit waiting for 2-3 years for the b42 mp

[merry barn]

if you interpeted that way i dont know what to tell you my dude

[merry barn]

Ok and you have it? and before 42 came out it was not even 2 years yet..

Theyre not going to work faster either so i dont know why youre complaining here.

[edgy ridge]

It was, it was like someone saying 'if you guys say anything I'll blow my brains out'

[ocean idol]

You just made me sad for calling me out like that. Thanks to you I just decided to wuit working and go do drugs. Thanks alot.

[merry barn]

this topic is going to go nowhere

think whatever you want lol its drama and its old

[ocean idol]

And you are not getting snything out of defending them so why you still doing it?

[midnight edge]

We have any estimates on when multiplayer will be released?

[edgy ridge]

When you take your head out your ass

[merry barn]

prolly when crafting is finished and everything implemented

[pallid vale]

YO ! Let's be straight and simple here, we don't do this drama or this type of baiting, the fact that you joined this chat and started talking sh!t usually hints at internal frustrations or something is wrong with your logic, please stop......

[edgy ridge]

No way people still ask this stuff

[merry barn]

[ocean idol]

I literally responded to the guy above with a mirror question of his and you call me out instead of him?

[merry barn]

dude it has nothing to do with the current patch its just community drama and it has been how long? lets just drop it

its obvious we dont agree and arent going to its pointless continuing

[ocean idol]

Ehh, you are right we wont change eachothers opinion. Respect for pointing that out

[edgy ridge]

Speaking of misinformation, do you think they'll convince us machinery was a group hallucination this build or not

[pallid vale]

Billy I see you lost faith?

why?

[edgy ridge]

When did I have faith?

[pallid vale]

a couple of months ago

or at least it seemed that way

could also be mistaken

[edgy ridge]

I'll always be cynical of PZ development

[merry barn]

wasnt that just like a uhh wahts that called?

"what modders can make" ors omething

[edgy ridge]

See, they put it in the water

[merry barn]

i forget the term

[merry barn]

why are you like this lol

no thats not what that meant hang on

[edgy ridge]

It fit too well not to go with my narrative

[merry barn]

i gotta go look through the blogs i could have sworn it was somethign else

[pallid vale]

eveything they have teased will eventualy reach us sooner or later

most of that stuff is not as easy as it seems to get into the base game, breaks different areas of code and etc\

[edgy ridge]

I'm mainly cynical because I've been down this pipeline already, I quit star citizen over a year ago and was clowned for the exact reason of 'it'll reach us sooner or later'

[pallid vale]

big mistake

it's now more playable than ever

[edgy ridge]

Just because you're a unique game doesn't unbind you from the laws of demand

[pallid vale]

I've been backing SC since 2017

and playing on Evocati

[merry barn]

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS VIDEO IS FROM A DEVELOPMENT TESTBED.

There’s no guarantee any of this will make it into B42, and likewise they are all built from random tiles that Turbs has nicked from our industrial sprite collection. This is all a part of testing the speed and simplicity of creating new machines – and from that underline how powerful the new system is.

Everything seen in this vid was put together with minimal specific code – and largely relied on existing components put together within the machines in the PZ script files along with new items and recipes.

[edgy ridge]

Oh jesus you're a whale

[merry barn]

https://youtu.be/RA6gewj2PDU if youre reffering to this

[pallid vale]

I have money my dude

[edgy ridge]

Not in the fat way as in the money way don't take it the wrong way

[pallid vale]

yes, I have it

I can spend 3000 $ on a ship and no worry about that

that's life

[merry barn]

billy pls

[edgy ridge]

What

[pallid vale]

other spend 3000 $ on drugs or something else like a bad car

[merry barn]

lol

[edgy ridge]

Good for you, I'd probably enjoy it too if I had that kind of money

[pallid vale]

You don't need that kind of cash

to play SC

[edgy ridge]

I've been looking into playing it again with 4.3 but pyro actually made the game less fun for me

[pallid vale]

it's awsome now

them Onyx facilities.....my dude

[edgy ridge]

There was even more focus on one or two missions and it just ran in that cycle for ages

[pallid vale]

they feel fully fleshed out and ready

the atmosphere the music the hazzards.....

[edgy ridge]

Do they actually work? I remember there was something similar with a mining beam that never worked

[pallid vale]

it's gold, best content we recieved in a very long time

[pallid vale]

they work, very well, it feels like fully fleshed out content

[edgy ridge]

For once

I'll probably download it again

[pallid vale]

yes, don't even compare to DC or bunkers

and in Pyro, well I can say you can make a fortune out of Feynmaline mining

[edgy ridge]

They just need to update everything in Stanton to rope me back in properly, it's really outdated and it shows

[pallid vale]

gems spawn in huge clusters

the Onyx facilities are in Stanton

and fyi, the executive hangars are always open

you can bypass the contested zones

also RABs now have NPCs, above decent loot boxes

[edgy ridge]

RAB's?

[pallid vale]

yeah the new stuff in Pyro

Remote Asteroid Bases

you have now RABs and RMBs

also the mining bases in Stanton now have hangar doors

[left valve]

here i am, still hoping we atleast get the framework for it

[merry barn]

to cut our slices of bread!

[left valve]

i would absolutely spent the time suffering learning lua just to mess around with a system letting me do whacky shit like post apocalyptic nuclear reactors

[pallid vale]

some planets got wildlife and dynamic snow / rain etc

not very much to show there

[edgy ridge]

I saw that in the patchnotes

Have they put in custom markers yet?

[pallid vale]

no, I haven't read anything about those

[edgy ridge]

It genuinely doesn't feel worth going around to find things if I can never find it again.

[pallid vale]

the medical beacons and medical gameplay is coming with 4.3.1

[edgy ridge]

They've had those removed for so long now

[pallid vale]

they are coming back

[edgy ridge]

Why did they turn them off?

Such a good way to meet people and help out

[pallid vale]

to fit in properly with the medical gameplay

they teased a medical station recently

[edgy ridge]

Sullys come to tell us to change topic

[pallid vale]

you will need to regenerate your imprint over time

did he?

[edgy ridge]

He was typing ominously

[edgy ridge]

And that's in the next patch?

[pallid vale]

they teased as much

[edgy ridge]

They need to fix the countless bugs that force you to backspace first

[pallid vale]

also 2027-2028 is targeted for 1.0 release

[edgy ridge]

Yeah I've never believed a CIG release date unless it said tomorrow

[pallid vale]

yeah, we can only hope

but if they pull it off

jaws will drop

[edgy ridge]

SC will crawl until they release s42

[pallid vale]

they have said it

42 next year and they have moved the devs from SC to 42 to get it ready in time

[edgy ridge]

Until then SC is a tech demo for S42 and all their bespoke tools

[pallid vale]

that tech demo drama unfold again

[edgy ridge]

I managed to get 42 as part of a giveaway trade in I did and got it completely for free with a hornet for SC

So I'm slightly more interested in 42 than most people

[soft lava]

I wasn't actually... it was my day off and I had a feeling I was being talked about so checked in >__>

big mistake obviously

guessing my phone put it even though I didn't type anything

[pallid vale]

I followed 42 quite some time and it was clear to me they were focused on 42 more than SC

[merry barn]

lol ur not allowed day off

whats sc?!

[soft lava]

I was legally mandated to take it 🙁

[merry barn]

awh lol noo

[soft lava]

to be fair, I need to get better at taking them

HR sent a gentle reminder to the entire team to take holiday lol

[merry barn]

i would think its kinda hard to think about that stuff if working remotely? LIKE HOW

[soft lava]

oh no, I've worked remotely for like 10 years and never had an issue before TIS. There's just something about working here where it's easy to forget. And companies in the UK can get in a lot of trouble if employees don't take their legally mandated holiday

[edgy ridge]

What's the difference, aren't you technically working right now?

[soft lava]

it's after midnight, I think I'm in the clear 😛

[edgy ridge]

He just loves his job that much

[soft lava]

it's so hard to disconnect... like seriously

[left valve]

second discord account for undercover zomboiding?

[pallid vale]

you must unplug now and then

[soft lava]

I do have an alt... maybe that is the answer

wait, no

I need to get away from this

[edgy ridge]

I'd think you'd be chronically offline outside of work

[soft lava]

not find ways to do more

hell no... I never leave my house unless I'm forced to

outside is awful

[pallid vale]

why?

climate? crimes?

[left valve]

you been outside recently?

[soft lava]

there are people out there... ewww

[edgy ridge]

I judged you when I saw this, then I remembered I go outside to drink and go to the gym and that's literally it

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

lol of course you did billy willards

[pallid vale]

ahh come on, that will lead to no good, human interactions are required by our brains to maintain decent levels of chemical transmitters like serotonin and dopamine

[soft lava]

I've always been asocial... I get all my socialisation from my wife and internet friends

[merry barn]

ok , yet when i went to walmart some dude gave me covid 2 weeks ago lol so frick that

SEE eggactly

[edgy ridge]

Seriously though please start to hate your job for your own good it can't be good for you to have such a connection

[pallid vale]

that's not helping the case

[soft lava]

I've managed to avoid covid entirely... the power of avoiding human contact

[edgy ridge]

That or get them to pay you by the hour

[merry barn]

yah i dont get it lol 5 years never had it and just managed to get it now??

[soft lava]

I've tasked my wife with making sure I take more time away... she has been getting mad at me for checking work when I shouldn't

[pallid vale]

yup

[left valve]

because people are less careful and all the tracking pretty much went down

[pallid vale]

summer variant, more friendly

less likely to develop severe symptoms like the first variant

[ocean idol]

Slide me a band zro 🫰🫰🫰

[merry barn]

lol that is a glorious looker afterer

[soft lava]

I can always trust her to be the "tough love" one

[pallid vale]

seems like the term workaholic is appropriate

do the rest of the team share this ? I hope so, we might see 43 sooner :))))

if not, infest them with it 😎

[soft lava]

Yeah, it is an issue the entire team have. The number of commits I see go through on Sundays lol.

[merry barn]

lol

[soft lava]

it's really hard to turn it off, especially when you're in the zone

[merry barn]

man i bet that would be so hard to

[left valve]

when you could still spy on steamdb, sundays were usually busier than mondays

[pallid vale]

you can still spy

[soft lava]

I've had instances when I was a programmer where I'd wake up in the middle of the night because I figured out how to solve an issue I was having and couldn't get back to sleep. It just gets stuck in there. And god forbid someone come to you with a technical issue or coding question

[left valve]

pretty sure steam removed the ability to see package logs for branches completely

because multiple devs leaked their updates like that

[pallid vale]

you can see the internal changenumber from updates

[soft lava]

https://steamdb.info/app/108600/history/

[pallid vale]

from Perforce

[soft lava]

yeah, commits on Saturday and Sunday lol

and today is a bank holiday in the UK... but not sure if today's commits were done by UK people or not and too lazy to check

[left valve]

huh neat, thought steam shut it all down

i do miss branches named to fuck with people using steamdb, tho

[pallid vale]

they remove the ability to see non-public branches

for different security reasons

updates are still shown, last one was 2hrs ago

so someone is working, probably Filcher in another timezone

[left valve]

i do could see having a git log exposed in the discord as a read-only channel could help with people going around screaming about the development status when theres no update for two weeks

[merry barn]

that was funny lol

[pallid vale]

there's updates all the time

[merry barn]

were you guys here when we spammed the channel

[left valve]

Eco does it, but their game is also a lot smaller and attracts less... interesting personalities

[pallid vale]

of course

I left a couple of days to bleach my eyes out

[merry barn]

hahaha

[pallid vale]

from that spam

[merry barn]

they should do that again for mp

[pallid vale]

we will styr up the chat before and hype it

[left valve]

oh you mean the daily no from the writer?

[pallid vale]

no no

1-2 days ahead of 42's launch everyone here lost it

17th Dec 2024 scarred me

[merry barn]

where is it , wasnt it a discussion thing? lol

or was it gen chat i cant find it

[left valve]

i think it was in the last news discussion

[pallid vale]

Pat didn't have a clue, he was messing with us

[left valve]

i know, lol

he said no the day it actually did came out

i do support a lil bit of trolling

[merry barn]

its that one lol

[pallid vale]

discussion thread from dec 2024

[left valve]

oh yeah i was barely active in that one for uh... reasons

couldnt have a halfway decent conversation the closer it got to "yeah b42 is coming"

[pallid vale]

it was no place for convos back then

now, same stuff is repeating itself with when mp

[left valve]

another december drop would be nice for mp, but I'm not going to hold my breath

also christmas releases are notoriously nightmareish, drop the update aaand everyones gone for holidays

[pallid vale]

I don't care for MP, I want to see they get in all the features for 42

MP can come later

[merry barn]

but i wanna run over my friend and sister's chicken

[left valve]

i would quite like MP, I'm stealthly working on a map that I'd like to test with a few friends that have a few different playstyles that work really good together, even if most of them are focused on doing things alone

and getting them motivated enough to do it via splitscreen is challenging to put it nicely

[pallid vale]

yes I want to be the biggest cow farmer in KY and trade milk for gold but also have all the neat and nice features they showed me

[left valve]

i mean you can have both?

[pallid vale]

first the feature, then MP

[left valve]

just because MPs release happens doesnt automatically mean its releasing unstable

[pallid vale]

that's how it should be

[left valve]

I'd be fairly surprised if it does

[pallid vale]

SP feature complet, MP unstable, B42 stable with MP

[left valve]

I'm pretty sure most of whats left is extending the crafting system and said framework around it, all after that seems like bonus

[pallid vale]

B42 stable with MP, other patches, hotfixing, other stable versions later

[merry barn]

tottally going to steal my friends cow milk "my cow wont produce milk"

me: dang that sux

[pallid vale]

missing features atm like brewing and archery, machinery and challenge maps

brewing was teased, archery is at the back of the queue

machinery as well

[left valve]

i mean challenge maps are mostly mapping, that can be done while MP is done, and brewing i think is based a lot around the crafting framework

which is probably why it takes so long

[pallid vale]

if you want to play a full wilderness run with your friend in MP you can't bc the map is not done > further frustrations

so yeah I do expect everything to be done before MP

at least in my mind that's the logic of things

[left valve]

i personaly think once the crafting framework is in, it'd be fine to drop mp

[soft lava]

MP is being worked on. It hasn't been dropped because it's not done. We hired a team to work specifically on multiplayer in tandem with other development

[left valve]

Yeah, we are aware that its different pipelines, I'm pretty positive its just a discussion about when it would be nice to have

[pallid vale]

the crafting is so not done even today

bottlenecked on different items

machine tiles don't have functions

[left valve]

yeah, but you also gotta remember christmas would be another 4 months

But I'm also not really in a rush, theres enough other games to fill the gap for the waiting

if its next summer, so be it will probably still be there and enjoy trolling friends in mp

[terse fog]

.

I am the real project zomboid

[fallen leaf]

What if the real project zomboid was the friends we made along the way'

[terse fog]

I never stopped to think about it

I just don't play Project Zomboid now because my mom is telling me to go to sleep

[cyan drum]

erm, what the sigma

Was this just to look good on paper or is this fr

In full is a crazy thing to say

[terse fog]

bro

where did you see this?

[cyan drum]

It was linked in a reddit post about their earnings and this was also in the document https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08650737/filing-history?page=1

[terse fog]

thx

[left valve]

you are massively missing the version context at the start of the sentence

[terse fog]

It's crazy to think that Project Zomboid has been in development for 12 years.

[left valve]

its not leaving early access, its just talking about the plan for b42

and the should is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

[cyan drum]

Yeah it's saying B42 testing started in dec 2024, it says WAS, meaning it already passed

[left valve]

w-we are currently testing b42

[terse fog]

I don't understand, this print says about this year right?

[left valve]

thats literally us

[terse fog]

Is b43 already in development?

[left valve]

no

they are still working on b42

[terse fog]

If b43 is something cool, I wouldn't even worry about the time it would take

[cyan drum]

The implication from the context is that this statement was made after B42 unstable released in dec 2024, and it is saying it would launch in full in this calender year, so that's 2025

[terse fog]

Have you ever imagined NPCs with AI?

[cyan drum]

should is the only worrying term

[left valve]

yes, buts its just for b42

[cyan drum]

... duh

[left valve]

also, b42 stable isnt going to be the end of b42, there'll probably still be a few minor updates to stable for things like professions and the likes

but also, plans change so should is doing a heavy lifting in the text, unless a community manager or nasko announces it, I'd probably not hold my breath

[cyan drum]

Nah, they'd never confirm

[left valve]

they might, a few seconds before release

[terse fog]

I am the real project zomboid

[cyan drum]

December 31st guys, mark it!

[terse fog]

?

what do you mean December 31st?

[cyan drum]

It's the end of the calendar year, the last possible day.

[terse fog]

last day of which

this translator is shit

which will end on December 31st

[cyan drum]

The document says it should launch in full within this calendar year, I'm saying it would release on the last day if it was true.

[terse fog]

I think Project Zomboid is a great game

[terse fog]

ok

I already suspected that this year we would have the complete b42

4 months, enough.

[cyan drum]

I'm not sure how they can do it, we're already 8/12 months in and they still have a good amount of missing features ahead of them and the bugs that come with.

[terse fog]

really, it's quite challenging

[cyan drum]

I believed it at the beginning, but they added a lot more than I was thinking in this update.

[terse fog]

I strongly believe in the possibility of having crossbows

this last update that just happened, I saw a lot of people complaining about b42.11

But I liked it, another addition that I liked was the clock moving, do you really think that Indie Stone animated the clock just thinking about it?

[merry barn]

i love small things like that

[terse fog]

me too

[merry barn]

fridges having magnnets , dressers having little things ontop

[terse fog]

I really liked the sound additions

[cyan drum]

I want an industrial freezer so badly

[terse fog]

I hadn't even realized that the microwave didn't have sound

I don't know about you, but when one of my characters dies, I feel their pain, like, I spend hours and hours improving their skills.

to watch it be tasted slowly

[fallen leaf]

I waited a few weeks but just got a good B42.11 run going, so I assume B41.12 will launch tomorrow lmao

[cyan drum]

It feels like they have been updating consistently monthly recently so probably come next week you're screwed

[left valve]

please dont, I'll be busy with helldiving, please delay your run a lil

[merry barn]

course lol

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[ocean willow]

Guys im releasing the patch soon hope u all are ready

[merry barn]

i just walked to wp, got a battery charger, walked back , found gen mag to charge lady finger van lol

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/my-body-is-ready-professor-severus-snape-shocked-scared-terrified-gif-16521401

[ocean willow]

Thats a little too ready

[left valve]

check in the post for 42.10, they announced that things they are doing now are bigger and might not result in quite so regular patches

[ocean willow]

Patches before .10 were every week or two

Now its every month+

[fallen leaf]

Averages of about 6 per day for the last week, except for 18 in the last 24 hours... B41.12 tomorrow confirmed

[ocean willow]

I hope

I want to make a new playthrough

[fallen leaf]

If I am right, I shall henceforth be know as the Prophet Strawcave

[left valve]

dont start this again

[fallen leaf]

He who makes baseless claims that come true

[cyan drum]

I'm hoping for greenhouses/another agriculture update to make watering easier, you HAVE to use some sort of sprinkler, pipe laying mod for large scale, or even a tractor

[fallen leaf]

It seems like there is intent to release a sort of industrial featureset with the pipes and machines that exist, but none of the changelists so far have really done much with it so I wonder if it will be B42 stuff

[merry barn]

ahahahaha

[fallen leaf]

I think bows are waiting for a physics update for throwing of objects that one of the devs said they were working on a while ago

[left valve]

there was some words about it, that it is technically possible with the new crafting frame work to have machines process things indepent of the users input, but it was stated to be a demo of what the new framework can do, not a 100 gurantee that it comes in

[cyan drum]

Pipes for plumbing is planned, and clay pipes exists!

[fallen leaf]

Yeah its just odd that they haven't done much with it in any patches since it rolled out as part of B42.0

the clay pipes that is

[ocean willow]

The physics update prob wont come until the projectile update

[fallen leaf]

theres also plastic pipe and iron pipe

[cyan drum]

Surely they don't add clay pipes and do nothing with them, right?

[fallen leaf]

Yeah thats what I am assuming

[left valve]

crafting is still incomplete, there's more to come

[fallen leaf]

And that arrows will be simulated as a 'thrown object'

[left valve]

they showed a absolute massive graph of things that are craftable, only a small part of that is implemented so far

[cyan drum]

Welding is one of the worst skills to deal with, so I'm gonna ignore that

[fallen leaf]

Watch them make the irrigation system require iron pipe and welding 😛

[cyan drum]

NOOOOOOOOO

It's annoying when you need multiple skill sets for one skill...

[ocean willow]

Im gonna be known as the master baiter once fishing is finished

[cyan drum]

Mechanics needing welding already sucks

It's understandable, but it's an entirely new grind

[muted iris]

When? I thought mechanics and welding are separate branches of tech trees in the game?

[cyan drum]

To repair parts you usually need some welding is what I meant, otherwise you're just ripping parts off from everywhere

[muted iris]

ahhh

Well, I didn't think of that.

[cyan drum]

Kinda like how for carpentry you need nails, but to make nails your need blacksmithing.

[muted iris]

With the power of Foraging, you can get parts that would otherwise require welding.

Nails, and screws, and all.

[cyan drum]

Yeah...

We'll get the profession and trait rebalance in 2033 dw

[muted iris]

That's when it's time to part ways with Soloing all skills to MAX levels.

i.e., the moment you choose a skill, you lock out some tech trees.

You will become more and more specialized in your field of expertise / skillsets the closer you reach late game.

[chilly wigeon]

Please no

We had an update about 24 days ago!

[harsh quiver]

14 years*

This is my receipt 🙂

[merry barn]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-whoa-lord-of-the-rings-gif-19620923

[harsh quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[merry barn]

😆

[pallid vale]

omg, they lied in the official statements

;)))))

that part with 2-3 years between updates is a lie

takes them 4 years minimum

[coarse flume]

b41 got its final major patch in Nov 2022

b42 launched in December 2024

[pallid vale]

I know all this

don't know what are you trying to tell me but I'll take it

they didn't fell in the same fiscal year

when you drop your anual report

[rugged lotus]

Damm unc

How old are you🙏

[pallid vale]

ECN has all the years a man can have

he is a highlander

[pallid vale]

I dare you to forage for welding items

found my first propane torch 10 days in

wonderful.....

and seeing it gobbled up after 1-2 car wrecks.....well that's annoying

and blacksmithing doesn't provide all the items required, for instance you can't make welding rods, metal rods or pipes

iron rods, etc

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-gif-14731534949278669964

[pallid vale]

keep dreamin'

it's a monthly thing now, so probably next week

[fallen leaf]

.8 to .9 and .9 to .10 were both 3 weeks

only the last was 5 weeks

Been three weeks since .11 dropped

https://tenor.com/view/milhosue-milhouse-milhouse8ball-gif-27260687

[quaint dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-truth-ruth-amen-to-that-couldn't-agree-more-you-said-it-absolutely-gif-15446303437406928096

[fallen leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/holdon-toyourbutts-jurassicpark-gif-4858777

[dapper moss]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

Pz community after a week has passed waiting for the next patch be like ^

[sharp granite]

missed a funny discussion around 15h ago, a pity

[pallid vale]

and I hope it's gonna be longer than that

and they deliver some content

in terms of features and stuff

no patch had any serious content drop, except 8.0 which introduced ragdolls

all were fixing, balancing and other fixes, QoL stuff and they are all very welcomed, but I feel it's time for some actual gameplay content

[muted iris]

Just wondering, can you refill propane torches with BBQ propane tanks?

[fallen leaf]

Yep