42.8.1 UNSTABLE Released

[forest prism]

you can send them to scavenge areas

or scout

[kind oyster]

How do u play pz, like what difficulty do u set it on

[kind oyster]

Dam, b43 gonna be insane

[forest prism]

custom

or 6 months later

[kind oyster]

Like for example, I put every loot of insanely rare, 10 years later, immediate shutoff electricity n water, a bit more zeds than usual, a few sprinters preferable

That's my go-to settings

[forest prism]

yeah for sp thats the best

otherwise it would be so easy

[kind oyster]

Fr, It sucks having tons of loot around

Me n my friends went to the rosewood military base to get guns, killed hundreds of zeds only to get magazines frm the armory

was fun lol

Aight

[oblique harbor]

B43 is gonna be by far one of if not the most game changing updates in a long time, if they still plan on adding stage 1 NPCs with 43

[kind oyster]

Fr

[oblique harbor]

if they plan on adding MP back when B43 releases personally i wouldn't care since MP and NPCs go hand in hand and should be worked on together to achieve the most compatibility, some players probs wouldnt agree with that but it would deffo make MP rerelease a lot bigger

if they go that route at least we wont get a half baked MP and half baked NPCs

[rose kraken]

read that blog post I've linked earlier they explain there

check houses in game or stores, you will see some machines and pipes in backrooms that's probably gonna be plumbing related

also check the vid they have posted for Christmas you will see a survivor installing roof lights using an electrical box on a house wall

[stoic frigate]

a lot of cops

so much ammo

[kind oyster]

Bro.. b43 is years away

Mp is definitely gonna be. Releasing sooner

Else we riot

[kind oyster]

😯

[hushed wharf]

Not "We". You

[kind oyster]

I'm sure many peeps would agree with ke

[oblique harbor]

I wouldn’t say it’s years away

[kind oyster]

At least two years

Max 4-5

[oblique harbor]

Only reason project zomboid development has been scuffed is because of quite a few hiccups and unfortunate events

Not being optimistic when I say at most it will be 2 years

It’s almost a meme at this point how long we have been waiting for npcs (even tho they existed at a point in time) and I don’t think they want to stagnate as the game is growing in popularity etc everyday, hence there should be more of a motivation to get things out at a reasonable pace

[stray roost]

[stoic frigate]

uh

[oblique harbor]

Wth is a heading tool

Is that used for tailoring?

[stoic frigate]

blacksmithing

[jolly raven]

They mentioned bows in blog posts too???

[oblique harbor]

Ty

[stoic frigate]

ye

[jolly raven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[thin python]

We already got the "better aim system". That's one of B42 Unstable's original features

[pulsar bridge]

Yuhuuuuu

[marsh zinc]

indeed

people always want dismemberment in games for the cool points™️ but in PZ that seems excessivelly difficult if not outright impossible to add lol

as far as i know the game doesnt even register "limb hits" when you hit zombies with melee

[boreal meteor]

Zombies after this update be like:

https://tenor.com/view/fling-fling-cat-flung-gif-23889817

[limber prawn]

I want dismemberment for gameplay reasons

Kneecapping zombies to prone them

https://tenor.com/view/vorparian-cat-cat-crying-cat-screaming-alien-cat-gif-4185291664303275819

[boreal meteor]

I absolutely love shooting zombies' kneecaps, especially after this update

What if zombies could climb onto hood of car and smash the windshield when the car is stopped? I think thats maybe a good idea

[grizzled elk]

42.8.1 UNSTABLE Released

[pure star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwlSgt0EWBs

[grizzled elk]

41.8.1 - Unstable Hotfix Release:

• Fixed game not launching with Video Effects being unchecked.,
• Welcome message can be disabled in the options.

[jolly raven]

https://tenor.com/view/animated-text-flashing-gif-25810683

[limber prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/vrchat-cat-creature-angry-mad-gif-10168575204556342087

No melee ragdolling teaser?

[thorny sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/so-hot-right-now-trending-meme-zoolander-this-is-epic-gif-26091622

[stray tundra]

Tell me, does the rekdol affect the FPS and stability in the game?

[teal coyote]

Multiplayer

[wise magnet]

Mp teaser..?

[marsh zinc]

last 2 users above me smell bad

[rose kraken]

yes

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/06/the-biomic-man/

[knotty tangle]

Brewing i hope is next

And then after archery

[little path]

https://youtu.be/TwlSgt0EWBs?si=1oXB0jYcMrWvQ4hF

HOLD UP, did we just saw a bit of multiplayer working?

[knotty tangle]

I think so

Nope that was a zombie

[little path]

ahh

shame

[forest otter]

what do u guys think about the ragdoll update?

[marsh zinc]

i think its peak

[little path]

amazing, but really unexpected

i cant even comprehend something like this actually being in pz

this opens so much possibilities

[forest otter]

When you kill a zombie using a gun isnt it a bit unrealistic for the zombie to fly a few feet?

[hidden bear]

i imagine the dragging corpses is eventually going to incoperate ragdoll, small but would be really immersive to see

[little path]

ig it will be toned down

or became a sandbox option

[little path]

hell yah

[marsh zinc]

yes

its new, literally was just added, no one expected it

it will be tweaked for sure, likely toned down

[hidden bear]

being able to carry player and such will be great too

[forest otter]

have u guys tried it while dragging a zombie?

[hidden bear]

maybe enough strength lets you jog with them around your shoulders

[hidden bear]

it doesnt work that way, currently anyway

[little path]

did animals also got ragdolls?

[marsh zinc]

this is very redundant unless players could fall unconscious/become completely crippled

for now i think it'd be useless

[forest otter]

I hope they put an option like carrying a corpse in your back hoho

[hidden bear]

pvp, people with gun shot wounds, exhausted players, broken legs from jumping a high ledge, there is a number of ways it would be aplicable

[marsh zinc]

You can still move with a broken bone, a deep wound, or when exhausted. Complete exhaustion is rare unless you're very irresponsible and carrying a player would likely max out your encumbrance, which would counter-act its usefulness

[hidden bear]

i think the lack of upper body contact is probably a good thing where zombie corpses are concerned, thats just asking for a case of the nasties

[hidden bear]

there's nothing wrong with a situational feature like that, i'm sure the RP community would love it, and they have expressed interest in that group of players and accomadating for them

[marsh zinc]

it is a problem when it's highly niche because this concerns the work of developers, they have no reason to work on and implement a major mechanic like that when most of its uses would be for roleplay

modders will be able to do that for you at some point

[hidden bear]

there is a difference between speaking your opinion, and speaking your opinion as if it were fact you know

[thin python]

Yeah no, that's just a well-executed trick

[marsh zinc]

it's a logical deduction, why work on something so big that has little everyday use for the average player when your time and resources couldve been spent elsewhere

[thin python]

It's already able to be opted out via the settings menu (not the Sandbox one, the regular one in main menu/pasue menu)

[marsh zinc]

if they actually took the time to add that officially, i'd be surprised

[hidden bear]

i'm not doubting your deductive ability, i'm doubting your ability to prove its a fact

[marsh zinc]

point out where exactly i have been trying to prove something as a fact

[hidden bear]

you said "They have no reason" that's not an expression of your opinion, that is trying to claim something is

[little path]

i mean, the ability to change "mass" of zombies ragdoll wise. So they wouldn be tossed around as easily.

[marsh zinc]

saying that someone is stupid is as much of an opinion as saying "i think he is stupid", if you choose to interpret it as a factual statement i dont have anything to do with that

[thin python]

Ah yeah

That needs to be tweaked

[hidden bear]

you literally said they have no reason, there's nothing to interparate about the fact that you're speaking on it, as if it were fact, except for that fact, that is indeed not a Fact

[marsh zinc]

Sorry that you think it's more likely for it to be added than not then

[hidden bear]

you're insufferable

[modern atlas]

I wondering if in future "melee attack and charging" will take weapon kind and fitness in to account to determinate ragdolls intensity...

Because If yes melee combat could become very funny

[hidden bear]

if not, the ability for modders to do it would be very likely

[modern atlas]

Yeah I hope so it will be structured (coding wise) to be modded in this sense

[hidden bear]

then again, if i can get strength Lvl 10 and do a Whirlwind barb build with sledgehammers i wont complain

[modern atlas]

Diablo 2 barbarian moment

Yeah, anyway if tweakble with sandbox every one could be happy

[hidden bear]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-crazy-baby-hyper-hyper-baby-when-the-molly-hits-gif-5676484

i hope someday we can climb on top of vehicles, maybe a certain speed would make it so you ragdoll

[modern atlas]

I would them fly more 😄, but I agree, a sandbox factor would be awesome!

[little path]

[marsh zinc]

i'd probably make it slightly more weighty but given what it's like now they're likely to tweak it to that anyway

for guns definitely

[pulsar bridge]

When im try set 1280 x 720 , still same back to 2k screen again @grizzled elk

[soft plume]

Can’t wait for the MP build for the beta, but in the meantime, still must to do and test

[pale scroll]

Switch to Full Screen

[pulsar bridge]

Same

[pale scroll]

Could you record a video with the issue?

[novel cypress]

Video you guys made look real nice got my friends excited for mp

[bold imp]

[pale scroll]

Have you restarted the game after changing Display mode? Could you try closing the game and changing res via Options ini file found in user\Zomboid?

[pulsar bridge]

Yes i did, but i can try change user/zomboid now

Still same

[pale scroll]

Are you playing on a laptop? Recommend creating a thread in #1019767076094758924

[pulsar bridge]

@pale scroll yes sir, thanks u sir

[stoic frigate]

foraging is really good now

[marsh zinc]

foraging was already good

if its good even at level 0-1 then i wouldnt say thats good, that's overtuned

[stoic frigate]

uhm actually i think i found a bug with foraging

I used to find stones very quickly, then when I activated the specialized stone search, it took me 5 minutes to find one. When I disabled the specialization, I started finding lots of stones.

Normally, the average search for stones should have increased, but here it seems to have decreased, not to mention the fact that I can find almost nothing else.

I haven't made any precise measurements, I'm aware that it's a feeling but i think that there's a problem.

[marsh zinc]

interesting

[rare mortar]

So can this be turned off?

Because it looks really bad

[crisp violet]

Let is get some polishing, it looks really good to start with

[rare mortar]

Yeah good point

[surreal falcon]

can be turned off somewhere yeah

[rare mortar]

Ah good thx

[stoic frigate]

btw, i tried to remove the mineral deposit with stone hammer, but it didn't work

any idea ?

[wary wren]

can be turned off in the sandbox settings I think

[toxic lion]

Try a different hammer?

There might be some balance changes.

[stoic frigate]

it worked with a sledgehammer

[toxic lion]

There you go. Probably "stone hammer" is a typo for "sledge hammer"

[stoic frigate]

uhm

[surreal falcon]

stone breaking hammer, maybe any heavy duty ones will work...if there's any aside from sledge

[toxic lion]

Feedback about the ragdoll system:

• I think the friction (the deceleration weight) should be increased a bit, so the movements are slowed down faster when the ragdolled zombie corpses are gunned down.

Otherwise, the arms flailing would keep flailing nonstop.

[marsh zinc]

not all hammers work, you cant do it with things like claw hammers iirc, but big hammers like stone hammers or club hammers should work just fine

its also possible youre doing something wrong, like rightclicking on something thats not a deposit

or they just made it impossible to break deposits with a stone hammer this patch, i do not know

[toxic lion]

Please let nasKo know what parts of it looked bad for ragdoll physics. They're looking for constructive feedback to improve this in the next patch.

[marsh zinc]

yes

dont just call it bad, elaborate

[solar ore]

@grizzled elk @pale scroll ily

[shadow violet]

People wanted npcs when ragdolls are clearly more important

[glad jewel]

I like the ragdolls

[stoic frigate]

Stone hammer or stone maul, cause stone maul work @marsh zinc

[marsh zinc]

i genuinely dont know, i havent even played this patch but i know from previous patches that a stone hammer should normally work

[limber sluice]

Okay this is really cool

Ragdolls are awesome, I see why this update took so long

[floral pewter]

getting tainted gasoline when filling it up at a gas station.

[marsh zinc]

all the more reason not to drink it

[floral pewter]

putting the tainted fuel in the car and nothing happened.

[limber sluice]

Tainted fuel? Say what now

[floral pewter]

could be a bug.

[marsh zinc]

me when my fanta beverage is tainted

[pale scroll]

New save without mods?

[floral pewter]

I dont use mods.

[pale scroll]

But did you create a new save in 42.8.1?

[floral pewter]

not yet

[thorny sparrow]

Did the decorative crops all being bushes get fixed in 42.8.1? Or are the changes only the two lines noted

[pale scroll]

No, biome map is still WIP.

[thorny sparrow]

Ok thanks!

[near trench]

Noticed that potted plants aren't dying like they are meant to?

[thin valley]

Anyone know why ragdoll physics work with vehicles but not for guns on my end? I do have a simple gun mod and had Advanced trajectroy installed but recently disabled it. No luck.

[marsh zinc]

remove every mod possible then try again

[raven dome]

i think dead plants being more common would increase the realism alot more

[thin valley]

Oh dear.

[raven dome]

theres way too many living plants even in forests it gives off this "perfect" feel too much

if you go in a real forest there will be tons of dead bushes or shrubs just around (would make the sticks on the ground seem more realistic if theres dead plants they could have came from)

[near trench]

dead leaves are nice

[marsh zinc]

true..

[raven dome]

the stalkers games understood this

their fields and forests feel so eerie and real

in a world surrounded by walking dead corpses you should also have dead plants and cracked roads with potholes

WHERE ARE THE POTHOLES ON THE KENTUCKY ROADS???

Roads arent perfect either

i dont mean give the roads and forests a post apocalyptic feel

i mean just make them accurate to the run down state of kentucky

mainly the roads

and the severe lack of gravel roads and overuse of dirt roads

[pale scroll]

dead corn fields

[raven dome]

another thing we need to see are tomato fields

one of the most common field types

corn isn't the only thing field farmed, tomatoes are incredibly common in fields

you can even field farm tomatoes in florida and arizona

[floral pewter]

erosion of plants over time should increase the yield of edible and poisonous plants.

[raven dome]

vines also have a severe lack of crops associated with them in game

overtime you'd see wild vines with berries poisonous or not

[floral pewter]

wild grapes

[marsh zinc]

erosion overall can always use more additions to it

theres always something

[raven dome]

i could make a whole paragraph of a reddit post on things the game needs

mostly all erosion additions or new crops and field locations

and road changes most importantly

including the severe lack of manhole covers

where tf are the sewers in kentucky???

[marsh zinc]

the sewer lids grew tiny legs and fled

[raven dome]

and also why isn't there any drainage.

[marsh zinc]

it would be kickass to have actual sewers that span across the entire map

[raven dome]

every city has drainage in parking lots and next to sidewalks and even ditches

[stoic frigate]

What is biome map ?

[marsh zinc]

also true...

[thorny sparrow]

I feel like sewers are just a 'other things are more important' thing, but to honest after everything else more important is done it would be cool to have an explorable sewer system in lousville at least

does anyone know if louisville has a subway lol

[raven dome]

i swear its all just tile based things that would just require textures

[marsh zinc]

a designation of areas on the entire playable map that dictates what biomes (woods, deep forest, plains, etc...) are in what places (iirc)

[raven dome]

we dont need explorable sewers at all (yet) we just need a more realistic world

[thorny sparrow]

Yeah thats why I said after everyting else lol

[marsh zinc]

wouldnt find jack shit in these sewers tbh
but they'd be nice to have as a escape plan for scenarios maybe

[thorny sparrow]

Maybe some mole people once NPCs get added lmao

[marsh zinc]

doubt any zombies would be down there (logically speaking

[stoic frigate]

Thanks buddy

[marsh zinc]

its shown in one of the thursdoid posts, i dont know which

if you keep going back, thursdoid after thursdoid, you'll eventually find it

[thorny sparrow]

I thought biomes was related mostly to foraging/tiles and the crops had been placed individually, the more you know!

[silver galleon]

Anyone find the name of that drop sound yet?

Scares me every time

[forest prism]

it can be turned off on settings

[naive heath]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-in-philadelphia-danny-devito-gif-27247841

Its beautiful..

[shadow violet]

Talk about being wrong smh

[fickle elm]

Is 42.8.1 compatible with 42.8 saves?

[hidden bear]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[wary wren]

Don't really see why not, it's not a major update either way

[near trench]

Last of us mod with ragdolls is so satisfying

Run stuff over and snipe them while feeling like joel

[finite estuary]

seeing the new crafting system and the harmonica and whistle itens made me think "what if we could carve a warhorn?" blast it to make a lot of noise and attract zombies or alert allies, dunno, just thought it would be cool.

https://tenor.com/view/sounding-the-horn-gif-5477091

attach it to a belt and have a quick access noise maker

[gilded swift]

For MP have they confirmed if corpse ragdolls will be client or server side?

If they're toggleable in options it implies client side but for containers being generated I'd imagine server side would be better for tracking corpse locations

[boreal creek]

are all mods not updated yet or am I the only person having a bug where ALL my mods arent showing (im on unstable)

I even installed a new one in the build 42 section to test and it didnt pop up in the mod menu

[boreal creek]

alright guess my steam was just cursed had to relaunch it to install the workshop files

[limber prawn]

Bodies should have an euphoria (iirc) movement to them as well

[stoic frigate]

42.8.1 : Day 18

[limber prawn]

I.e. it doesn't hit the ground the second you shoot a body.

[primal otter]

I think it'd be interesting if the zombies briefly tried to get back up after death, like the infection is trying to revive whatever's left of their brain but can't

[limber prawn]

Depending on more factors but something like this is desirable

Maybe a bit faster, when people go limp they drop but they don't essentially teleport to the ground (like from what I've seen in the pz videos)

[uncut inlet]

so maybe a bit much to expect, but does anyone know of a mod that reverts the change to zombie bumping when jogging?

easily my least favourite change from the update

it's not as big of a deal as it felt like at first but yeah, it's really not something i'm fond of in terms of game-feel- just feels really awkward having the direction you're running randomly get changed, then having your character do the turn-around animation to resume the direction you're already holding

[hot knot]

thank god im not the only one

i was bouncing off of like 3 zombies and i was so confused

[uncut inlet]

i reaaally hope it gets reverted or at the very least, someone makes a mod to revert it

[atomic mason]

are you talking about something besides ragdoll?

[modern wasp]

i still think we get sleepy way too quickly. wake up at 6 and by like, noon you're getting drowsy

i do love the new zombie fallling down animation tho

[rocky plover]

Your fitness affects that! Higher fitness you don't get sleepy too quickly. On my 42.7 run i've maxed fitness and had wakeful trait. I had to use sleeping pills for my character to keep decent sleep schedule

[modern wasp]

damn XD okay TIL. and tbf i dont ususally take wakeful

[glad jewel]

Project zomboid please add Capes

[modern wasp]

anyone know off the top of their head if you can use a propane torch to dismantle the LV barrier? or is a sledge the only way

[tired epoch]

How old are you?

[modern wasp]

also the sound of bags dropping on the ground is terrifying

[surreal falcon]

that is evil

[modern wasp]

not quite 30....... is this what i'm looking forward to 😭 is this how old people feel

yo while you're here, can you tell me what prevents buildings from being looted? is walking inside enough to keep it from getting looted? messing with containers? being in the area?

also also my car is still slowly sliding away when it's got a trailer hooked up

[novel cypress]

i'm 20 and I sleep about 4 hours a day.... totally not because I have insomnia

and even with that it never a restful sleep, I always feel like a zombie. butttt I'm still alive :D

[novel cypress]

also yeah my does that I think it just that type of trailer

[novel cypress]

also if you mean if the building get looted/trashed, It seems like it doesn't get looted if you just look at the building/load the building (unless it was changed this build)

[modern wasp]

hmmmmmmm because i had a run where i drove past a bunch of unlooted buildings i wanted to keep, then later when i went back to them, some were looted

[novel cypress]

huh is this on the new build

[modern wasp]

nah thsi was a while ago

[novel cypress]

huh did you look into the windows?

[modern wasp]

i don't think so

[novel cypress]

maybe that why>

when I drive down the street I kinda just look into the windows soooo

[modern wasp]

yea good point that sounds like it'd be it lol

[novel cypress]

maybe since I looked into might have loaded the loot/ rooms

but don't quote on that I might have just been real lucky

[modern wasp]

well that's how zombies work too right? need to load the inside for them to spawn. I think. but nah that sounds right

[novel cypress]

I think so I haven't read the patch note of this build yet. Soooo unless they change it then yeah

you know what I might aswell play it until my friend tell me if he choose order or faith

[modern wasp]

i have no idea wtf that means

[novel cypress]

choose

[modern wasp]

um uhhh

faith

[novel cypress]

you monster tsk tsk tsk, I guess I gotta make a cult in frostpunk evil man

[modern wasp]

😂

[novel cypress]

but that will be tomorrow I wanna try out the bodies now

[raven dome]

car rework confirmed

car interiors and animated doors and hood/trunk

[novel cypress]

proof?

[modern wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[novel cypress]

another gif in my collection

[raven dome]

use debug mode

[modern wasp]

🤭

[raven dome]

you can spawn in the new reworked cars (they are unfinished but fully modeled and partly animated)

[novel cypress]

auugghgh that so much work though

[novel cypress]

I check but do you have any mods?

[raven dome]

no lol

[modern wasp]

beautiful

[novel cypress]

oh nice

[raven dome]

this is vanilla and confirmed alongside reworked fire effects

[modern wasp]

YES REWORKED FIRE

[novel cypress]

I mean WTF IS THIS IT LOOK SO NASTY

[modern wasp]

AAAHHHH i'm SO sick of stubbing my toe on my campfire and burning to death in 0.4 seconds

[novel cypress]

if they are reworking this I hope it use the new ragdolls to allow you to get dragged out of the car window

[raven dome]

you will be able to use fire to disenfect a wound instantly but temporarily

also closing the wound obv

[modern wasp]

ooooooooh that's exciting

[raven dome]

also oil spills / gas spills might be a thing coming as you will be able to light it to make fire go to a certain area

without molotovs

[modern wasp]

i chooose to believe everything you say because it's exciting

[raven dome]

chainsaws and bows and crossbows are also in debug mode but only the chainsaw has a model

[modern wasp]

bows and crossbows my beloved

[raven dome]

you will pass out after getting to ridiculously tired from now on

dogs are once again confirmed (IVE BEEN WAITING FOR AN UPDATE ON THIS)

horses are still coming but we dont know when cuz devs havent said when

[modern wasp]

i really hope that comes with a reduction in tiredness.. gain. nobody's passing out in the zombie apocalypse after 24 hours without sleep

[raven dome]

also

the next major mod to be made vanilla

is confirmed to be amputation (metal working/blacksmithing will be used to make limb replacements and prosthetics)

[fickle elm]

I'm out here hammering at a baseball bat

[raven dome]

it will be parity between metal working blacksmithing and first aid

[modern wasp]

i'm excited. also gullible

[raven dome]

this is all confirmed

by the devs themselves (amputation will probably be b34 tho if im being honest)

[modern wasp]

where?

[raven dome]

horses may come before b42 is fully released but its looking like b43 instead as they will also double as livestock being used for meat + milk

[raven dome]

deleted but archived blogpost

[modern wasp]

i want horses and dogs NOW

[fickle elm]

...people drink horse milk?

[raven dome]

and debug mode has most if not all of these features listed in some way or even partly implemented

[modern wasp]

i don't even care if i can't ride horses and can't have dogs follow me just yet, i just want them ingame lol

[raven dome]

wolves bears and dogs and horses are the last few animals currently not in b42

[modern wasp]

have you ever heard of Mongolia :3

[fickle elm]

didn't know they drank horse milk. That's kind of cool actually. Would you get a lot from it though?

like dairy cows are bred for excessive milk. Are there horse breeds that are bred for milk?

[modern wasp]

i would assume no but honestly i have no idea

now i really want to breed horses for milk in zomboid tho

screw cows with their diet of barbed wire, planks and bricks

[raven dome]

b42 features that are partly implemented

CAR INTERIORS + ANIMATED CAR PARTS

BOWS/CROSSBOWS & CHAINSAWS

Ragdolls

Fire reworked

B43+ features confirmed/not implemented yet

Horses/Bears/Dogs/Wolves

Horse milk beverage/horse meat/bear/canine meat

Amputations/prosthetics/limb replacements

Zombie gore/zombies with missing limbs (and guts hanging out etc)

Using fire to close wounds/Dumping gasoline and lighting it to lead fire to a specific location

Blood bags/blood replacement

all the current confirmed features that are being added

first aid will probably get a rework at this rate ngl

[modern wasp]

out of all the things that i want, first aid rework is one of them

[raven dome]

we're for sure getting alot of first aid additions in the future so it seems plausible

[dense iris]

Loving the new working wall clocks and new crawling zed idle animations

[fickle elm]

are you getting these from data mining? or from forum posts?

[raven dome]

official zomboid blogs and debug mode

theres actual models that are animated for the chainsaw and the vehicle rework

bows and crossbows have no models yet

fire reworked was showcased in a deleted video a few months ago

by the indie stone

[dense iris]

from playing the game

[raven dome]

amputation has been talked about and even confirmed at one point by multiple devs

current newspapers have models of zombies with missing limbs

so it seems like it may be coming after ragdolls

[dense iris]

cant wait to use arms and legs as weapons 🔥

[modern wasp]

i want my puppers to run off and play with severed limbs, kenshi style

[raven dome]

i think most of these features will be for b43 because b43 has almost no information about it yet

even tho we got a roadmap its only labled as patches fixes n stuff

[dense iris]

npc update b43

thats 8 years down the line tho lol

[raven dome]

b43 isn't the npc update

[modern wasp]

i hope they don't wait till b43 to add dogs. I would love to see feral dog packs roaming around like we see rats

[raven dome]

its going to be the precursor to it

[crimson crest]

I once heard a dev say that people lie on the discord a lot.
And then a baby fell out of a liar and looked at me.

[dense iris]

they'll probably introduce dogs to test how npcs will like/dislike the player based on actions

[raven dome]

you can find pictures on the reddit of most of the things listed already

most of the leaks and stuff were found a few days ago

people got bored waiting for b42.8.0 and started digging

[surreal falcon]

Blair at least was a PZ dev, he knows what hes talking about!

he speaks of magical zeds

and lies, apparently

[raven dome]

ngl im just saying if u start seeing these features implemented in b42.9.0 i was right

[surreal falcon]

B43 will come after B42, if it does, I was right too

[raven dome]

the new indie stone video had a whole section of it dedicated to cars i think its hinting at the animated parts and interiors being part of b42

[surreal falcon]

do you have these leaks to link, on reddit?

[raven dome]

a youtube video just came out showcasing some of these features

[modern wasp]

👉 👈 link?

[raven dome]

he didnt link the blogs or reddit posts he found them from tho which is a goober move

[raven dome]

search up discreader project zomboid

he didnt even show alot of the things he talks about its a pretty undetailed video about them

ngl finding the deleted indie stone blog might be impossible for me tho

as they themselves took it down after a bit

it showcased ALOT.

yeah its gone

you can load up debug mode to see alot of the things tho

debug mode lets you access alot of the things devs use

[modern wasp]

yea his video is pretty vauge ngl lol

i wonder if we're just going to get one type of dog

probably not right? i mean we have different breeds of all the other animals

but like, i want to see feral terriers

[proven bronze]

they never confirmed pets, although its possible

[modern wasp]

dogs are confirmed tho aren't they?

[proven bronze]

and even if they dont add it a modder will do it

[modern wasp]

same with horses, wolves and bears

[proven bronze]

none of those are confirmed

[modern wasp]

or did i just make that up. i stg i thought they were confirmed

[proven bronze]

nah

[modern wasp]

._.

[proven bronze]

people like to say they are even tho they are deff not

[modern wasp]

i had no idea this existed. but I still swear i saw mention of dog somewhere

where were horses confirmed then?

[raven dome]

they were confirmed

[raven dome]

dogs and horses were confirmed awhile back i forget in which blog tho

pretty sure the blog talking about them is still up.

[modern wasp]

yea i'm hunting through thusdoids rn, i'm pretty sure i'm not crazy XD

[proven bronze]

idk

ive been here since 2021

[rocky plover]

I know horses were 100% mentioned somewhere

Dogs i think were mentioned as helpers for tracking wild game

So that would be a build 43 addition

[proven bronze]

if yall can site it then i'll believe it

[rocky plover]

"The key word here is ‘potential’ (potential!) but this does mean that one day we’ll be able to consider stuff like zombies grabbing players and dragging them through windows, dragged zeds being dumped into pits and graves, animal attacks and tramples, or even (maybe? who knows) mountable steeds one day."

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/04/dya-like-them-grapplez/

Here you have mentioned horses and other steeds

[modern wasp]

maybe i am crazy. I swear dogs, wolves, bears and horses were explicitly mentioned somewhere. but apparently not in a thursdoid from what i can find lmao.

[rocky plover]

Horses are mentioned in grapple tech

But this is beyond build 42

Dogs were either mentioned in the hunting thursdoid for 42 or way way way back when NPCs were mentioned

[modern wasp]

i ctrl-f'd through thursdoids into 2022 and there was no mention of "dog" anywhere

[rocky plover]

Yeah bcs they didn't said it literally

Same as in grapple tech they used Steed

instead of horse

[modern wasp]

that's what i'm saying, i'm convincied i saw them explicitly mention dogs

[rocky plover]

Look for hounds

If they were mentioned in a context i remember they were, they would use hunting hounds

[modern wasp]

well if hounds were mentioned, it was before 2023

[novel cypress]

the bodies hunger

I thought he died

[thorny sparrow]

This would be awesome hahaha

[thorny sparrow]

If you look at the actual PZ website, and click ‘the game’ under ‘explore’ you can see this

Probably what you were thinking of

[modern wasp]

omg

it really does exist XD

[thorny sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-not-crazy-melanie-emily-alyn-lind-babysitter2-killer-queen-gif-18420233

[modern wasp]

well i'm still a little crazy, with the bears and wolves XD but damn i'm not that crazy

[hot knot]

does this mean my blood mod will be obsolete

[novel cypress]

so there a new fall over animation

[marsh zinc]

It is related to foraging, i dont think these two are mutually exclusive

[acoustic pasture]

Is it just me or does that limp anim in the ragdolls announcement look different? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one before

[raven dome]

Its from a newer version than the one we’re on pretty sure

[acoustic pasture]

Gotcha

[slate swallow]

did they mess up foraging values? why do i consistently see 5 forage things every 10 tiles at level 0 foraging and Nature's Abundance set to very poor

[pale scroll]

Which one ?

[limber aurora]

hello Miami,

I noticed this issue back in b42.4.1 and Beard told me to post it as a bug report on the forums.

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/81473-4241-rev27153-global-street-lights-do-not-work-with-a-generator/

Is this actually a bug? And do you perhaps have any knowledge if that's being worked on or is this actually an intended behavior in b42?
Confused at this point honestly, it's been a while since I reported it

Thanks in advance for an answer :)

[pale scroll]

Yes we are aware of this one

[modern atlas]

B42

• Are you sure car interior will be ufficially implemented? Seems very cool but I didn't saw it in B42 planned features.

B43

• Should also include human NPCs that are the principal features of the build
• Are wolves and bears confirmed? Cause this seems very interesting.
• Zombies gore seems very scary, I love it.

[marsh zinc]

in what thursdoid post has gore/amputations been confirmed?

anyone know?

[jaunty zephyr]

Y'all just keep making this better and better. nice work devs.

[little path]

It wasn't confirmed

Bruh

[marsh zinc]

tell that to whoever spoke of the gore then.

misinformation

[fickle elm]

I bet the process of crafting a bow is going to be nuts. "Leave this hunk of wood sitting in the sun for 2 months. Gradually coat it with wolf sinew every few days during this process."

[marsh zinc]

its definitely going to be intricate, i think

hoping we get crossbows too

[near trench]

It's an ingenious way of getting player retention whilst also not letting them be bored during long runs.

Imagine a bow factory in multiplayer with 20+ people

[plucky shadow]

**PROJECT ZOMBOID - RAGDOLLS ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO! **
https://youtu.be/TwlSgt0EWBs

Played some of Build 42.8.1 and the zombies ragdoll physics for getting hit with the car looks nice, other than some getting stuck in the windshield. The zombies getting shot with firearms need some work, they should rag doll once only when they've been killed because it creates confusion for myself I don't know about others. I think the zombies ragdoll physics with firearms should be determined by the caliber/ammo.

[thorny sparrow]

Yeah in some ways, some melee weapons should ragdoll them more than ammo. Like if I full on smacked a zombie (which is already unsteady) with a sledgehammer or large mace it should fall over dead or not, but not a 9mm.

Excited to see how they do melee ragdolls, could really liven up melee combat. Im not sure if its a bug or intended but it seems like zombies are knocking eachother over a bit already in melee which is hilarious.

[wary wren]

yeah like depends on how strong the weapon is

[thorny sparrow]

right

No idea how that math works but maybe they can tie it to weapon weight

[wary wren]

comparing a kitchen knife to a fire axe

[thorny sparrow]

weapon weight and sharpness, high weight with no sharpness knocks them over, high weight with sharpness doesn't because it cuts in

[wary wren]

or a 9mm to a js 2000

[thorny sparrow]

yeah that too

also how much of getting knocked back by bullets IRL is a human reaction to it that zombies wouldn't have

[wary wren]

overtime I can see it definitely get better by slowly rolling out the patches to the ragdolls

[thorny sparrow]

Yeah

[wary wren]

I've said this one time but an option to add like adjustability to the ragdolls in like sandbox for example would be a cool idea

[thorny sparrow]

I also think even though we all want more gameplay features this was a good idea because it refreshes the mass appeal because people just like ragdolls. Im assuming thats why they made a public video about it

Which I think is good for the game because at the end of the day they need sales to keep dev work going to build out the features all us old guys who spent $20 like 10 years ago want lmmfao

[wary wren]

Yeah because ragdolls makes it more dynamic

im glad they added ragdolls overall

[lilac hornet]

ragdolls got added in Project Zomboid earlier than DayZ wow

[fickle elm]

Man, imagine how missions will work in B42 multiplayer. Have a van full of expensive items (like anvil, large bellows, tools, etc.) and drive it to your destination, then your smith and builder create a small crafting outpost at wherever.

Then you can have crafting outposts scattered around different cities

[near trench]

That would be amazing!

If only we could weld metal plates onto cars for armour

[marsh zinc]

eevntually

[fickle elm]

Just imagine... The Kentucky Sword Distribution Company, dedicated to making swords accessible in all cities

[plucky shadow]

Yeah me too, that's going to liven up the melee combat. I just hope that they can make a way so the ragdoll physics work appropriately with the weapon used by the character. Like with weapon weight and sharpness or just bluntness of the melee weapon

[plucky shadow]

Exactly

[plucky shadow]

The RP servers are going to go insanely crazy with B42

[wary wren]

B42 is such a huge upgrade and I like it, just like how B41 was

[toxic lion]

Yeah, and we're not done with B42.

[wary wren]

Can't wait till B42 will be finished

[toxic lion]

Oh, that reminded me. Ragdolls are still in the works, so that means MP is pushed back until ragdoll physics are working properly....

Clients will need to sync up the collisions and the physics calculations.

So yeah... MP is definitely around when GTA 6 releases.

I'm actually okay with this, because I would rather have 3D physics and collision handling in Project Zomboid.

Can't wait to try out stunt jumps! 😄

[plucky shadow]

They might disable ragdolls for MP until it works as intended or make it optional to have on the server but by default it's disabled

[toxic lion]

And look at all those zombie bowling pins.

Dammit. 😭

[wary wren]

Same thought tbh

[toxic lion]

A PZ fan can dream.

😭

[plucky shadow]

Yeah but running over a friend by accident and watching them ragdoll might actually be pretty funny

[toxic lion]

That's the dream!

[plucky shadow]

Yeah sounds about right lol

[wary wren]

It'll be fun if they will implement ragdoll to players but who knows

[toxic lion]

Yeah, and all it needs is a way to sync only the data it needs to start running the physics simulation.

Luckily, and I do hope, that everything involved are predeterministic.

A small few bytes and a bit higher server update ticks rate, should be enough.

I also can't wait to see PZ implement rollback netcode. That would definitely help with the physics simulation.

My goodness, the game will be a technical marvel.

But yeah, ragdoll physics feedback: It just need to add a bit more friction (weight) so it doesn't jitter too much.

[plucky shadow]

Yeah hopefully that's the case but who knows for real

Definitely a good addition to the game that I didn't know that would enhance the game though

[fickle elm]

The player model and the zombie model are both derived from the same model right? So player ragdoll probably already almost works.

[toxic lion]

Yeah

Also, we will need a ragdoll system in place when the player falls off the floor. It should kick in immediately when the player falls more than 2 floors high.

Feedback ^^^^^^^^

If only there is a channel specifically for feedback gathering.

Maybe the feedback isn't right, since ragdolls are only enabled for vehicle collisions and gunplay.

[knotty tangle]

It would be awesome if they added gunpowder cauterization to the game

[modern atlas]

There is already a mod for melee ragdolls, but it's a little unbalanced.

Thanks to the author for it anyway.

I think melee Ragdolls should take in to account;

• strength
• two or one handed weapon
• Blunt weapons or not

[thorny sparrow]

Agree!

[toxic lion]

I think that's what this game's new feature is for: To integrate that ragdoll into the base game.

[modern atlas]

Yeah make sense that they didn't allowed it for all fields so that they can get feedback better.

May be this mod can also be useful to have an earlier feedback about melee, so that they know already what the community think when they will get to it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3485408274&searchtext=

What I can say is that it shuldent be limited to killing blows, this don't .akensense to me.

I think enabling it for every blow would instead make melee combat a lot more interesting if allowed for every blows with strength and other conditionals taken in to account.

[toxic lion]

Only becomes useful when the devs are actively seeking feedback about it.

I'm afraid we're back to car collisions and gunplay.

[modern atlas]

Yeah that the actual focus and make totally sense.

[little path]

How the hell do you imagine that

Zeds becoming ragdolled after every hit?

Or just for knock downs?

[knotty tangle]

They would have to develop a thing so they can get back up

[little path]

It already happens

[knotty tangle]

Oh wow

I thought it only happened on death

[modern atlas]

A blow with a knife for example shouldn't knowdown and ragdolls them.

But a character with great strength that use a two handed blunt weapon should have an "high chance" of knokdown/ragdoll the target, every it.

This doesn't mean that zombie should fly on air, but send back to the ground for example yes.

And make sense for every blows (if you are not tyred), not only for the last one.

[little path]

Sometimes they get knocked down in firefight

[little path]

It should be tied to an already existing knockdown chance

Nothing more, nothing less

[modern atlas]

Disagree. Simulate the impact for every hit make more sense to me. At least if not overpowered and hitting the right condition.

Would make melee combat a lot more interesting and funny... And not necessary unbalanced.

But probably the most of the community agree with you.

[knotty tangle]

Yessssss updating the combat system with kicks and punches would be cool as well

[modern atlas]

Until is customizable through sandbox anyway we could be are happy

[little path]

Making em drop after every second hit would be too op

[modern atlas]

Not necessary every hit.
If you look to actual pistol shooting they don't necessary make them fly. They have a "stopping effect".
But still have an effect on them also if they don't fall down or on air.

In my vision every hit have a chance to have an effect.
The intensity of the effect should vary according with several factors.

Also if you have high strength and a two handed weapon this shuldent mean that every time should send them in to "Skyrim mode", but there should be an higher chance to trow them back. But the majority of it still could simple slow or stun them.

[marsh zinc]

a killing blow in most melee cases, realistically speaking, shouldnt push the zombie at all

it'd just drop dead right there

[modern atlas]

Yeah (the opposite of Skyrim 😄 )

I have no idea anyway about possible "performance impact" this could have

More condition you put more could hit performance. I suppose

[little path]

If a zombie enters ragdoll state in any way, even with the smallest blow, he will fall down and take 5 seconds or so to get up anyway. Unless devs somehow allow them to remain standing during ragdoll state, but have no idea how they can achieve that.

[modern atlas]

Yeah probably some blows should simple stun without make them ragdolls.

Also the feature is under balancing

What I mean, is that also if not all blow ragdols, every blow should have a chance to do it according with some conditions, without so it every time (too umablanced as you say)

[little path]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see

[modern atlas]

Yeah

[thorny sparrow]

Hey cool these things work now

[elder cape]

I thought it was a bunk bed frame, lol

[marsh zinc]

food inside
animals dont go hungry

[stray tundra]

How do I harvest firewood now? I'm writing about some surface

[tropic sphinx]

Rag dolls before mp, fantastic.

[sterile cradle]

Anyone else black screening when they try to load in? I'm on an AMD card so I know theres been problems like this before

[hot knot]

i think my biggest issues with the ragdolls is how jank the transition is between the 2 states and the weird almost weightlessness that they have

i think if some of the joints were stiffened/loosened at random before going limp entirely could help with the weird death poses aswell, or some sort of blending of a death animation and the ragdoll

[acoustic pasture]

https://youtu.be/TwlSgt0EWBs?si=2KD8r2XecZMIF24l&t=82

This one

[hot knot]

this could also be used as an indicator for a downed ragdolled zombie instead of a dead one, with the downed one having more stiff motions

[toxic lion]

I need someone to try and use a car to hit a zombie, then have the zombie ragdoll itself flying into a building. Has anyone done this?

Even better, I haven't been able to ragdoll a zombie through a broken window.

I need my slam dunking zombie ragdoll gameplay

[hot knot]

i think the windows count as walls technically in game

[toxic lion]

dang it... 😦

[analog spear]

i tried a fence lol

but i ended up crashing into a tree instead and missed

[toxic lion]

That's also difficult. I wanted to see a zombie flip extremely fast when it grazes the top of the fence.

[junior hinge]

The rag dolls are hilariously amazing

I can’t wait to find a sports car

[modern wasp]

you know, i thought i would hate ragdolls at first. like "i wanted bows i never asked for this" but holy shit i love them so much. also it's waaaay harder to plow through a crowd with a vehicle now which is really nice

i wish, instead of being unable to open cans and bottles while driving, that it would spill some on you instead

and if wet clothes don't already make you uncomfortable, they should

[winter flower]

I did pinned a zombie between a car and a building, though I couldn't loot it

[toxic lion]

DOWNSIDES to having Ragdoll physics:

1. You cannot pin a zombie on the ground after they ragdolled and collapsed, but are not dead. You either need precision standing or something else, or you risk them getting up and biting you without fail.

2. You cannot loot zombies if they ragdolled and stopped with a pose stuck on vehicles. This might also apply to things like being wedged between tiles.

3. Can't seem to pin zombies with heavy objects anymore.

Feedback ^^^^^^

[analog spear]

wait you could pin zombies with heavy objects?

like a cardboard box?

[surreal falcon]

heavy

[analog spear]

THATS HEAVYyah

[surreal falcon]

but you probably refer to a moon sized cardboard box

[analog spear]

lol

why did it edit my shit lol

[surreal falcon]

pin zeds with your prized cow

[elder cape]

isn't ragdolls going to cause CPU performance issues? like, I'm worried about very large hordes. the game already struggles without ragdolls.

[acoustic pasture]

I think the ragdolls look nice with cars, but with guns i feel like it needs to be toned down a bit

[jaunty zephyr]

the ragdolls are OVERWHELMINGLY fun. It's gonna be great when y'all can trigger them off of melee.

[modern wasp]

yea i actually haven't even tried guns yet, but ragdolls with cars is so fun

[analog spear]

its hilarious lol

i like when they turn into pretzles

[jaunty zephyr]

i like when they stick to the hood of your car and you have to swerve to get 'em off. or when they take a hit to a leg and spin around like they just took a punch from an anime protagonist

[modern wasp]

they sure do have a tendancy of getting stuck in your vehicle tho lol. just had my car almost flip because one was freaking out stuck in my car

[analog spear]

yeah hahaha , just taking this one with me

[toxic lion]

Negligible amounts of CPU performances used.

Well, except when you're literally ramming into 500 zombies....

[stoic frigate]

Guys, what is the tool needed to cook insects ?

[junior hinge]

A campfire/stove

I think you can also make bug stew with a cooking pot

[silver galleon]

Mmm bug stew

[stoic frigate]

should i put fire pit outside ?

or inside ?

[finite estuary]

you should read a happy book

[stoic frigate]

nahhh i'm good

[vague geode]

is multiplayer a thing now

[crisp violet]

Idk man why not go check

[ember ridge]

not yet

[rich jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/viego-viego-not-yet-not-yet-not-yet-lol-lol-gif-24719068

[modern wasp]

i can't imagine being unable to take cigarettes out of packs while walking is intentional... right?

[hardy tapir]

omg 2023 lol 2 years to do a rogdoll, its a lot of time.

[analog spear]

love rogdolls

[modern wasp]

damn the ragdolls when shooting are very silly

i don't like it at all lmao

[modern wasp]

hunter should def give tracker instead of trapper. or both

[oak prism]

They broke plumbing again.

[boreal plaza]

I LOVE THIS GAME CHAT!

[hearty relic]

All of My .7 world’s wheat turned into bushes

Every single one

There were fields of just small trees in the farmland near westpoint

[floral pewter]

glad I am staying in a nice rural 2 story home near fallas lake

[high mauve]

thats what happens man....

[hearty relic]

i guess all the farmers wanted to plant some apple trees before the infection started

[severe fog]

Our character just has parkinson, ADHD, and PTSD

[rose kraken]

Please Spiffo a sandbox option to toggle Iron Ore spawns in the default game mode......

[rose kraken]

why do you bother yourself with the small kiln and primitive furnace?

when you can make the advanced kiln right away and the advance furnace is actually cheaper to build than the advance forge

btw you're still locked behind nails and a lighter regarding primitive runs

imo they should add some wooden nails for low lvls up until you get metalworking going, just for the very basic carpentry crafts

[rose kraken]

that was a dev blog they told us what was going to land one day, that day has come, at the time of that blog they haven't even started working on them as they stated it's exploratory

we don't know when they finished working on their first iteration so they could have finished this part months ago and then tested it up to the point it can be pushed out

[stoic frigate]

Because the fact that the advanced versions are as expensive as the primitive versions is clearly a balancing issue, so I'd rather start with the primitive and advanced versions afterwards, maybe they'll fix that. @rose kraken

[stoic frigate]

i just died

[rose kraken]

:)))

next time you'll go with the advanced ones first 😛

[elder cape]

they were probably prioritizing other stuff. to be honest, ragdolls don't seem to effect gameplay too much especially not positively with how wacky they are right now.

[modern atlas]

I like this feature a lot. For me it make world feel a lot more alive, all thing are more tangible and for me it's probably best feature from years (thinking to future melee ragdolls).

But I can understand people that want MP... Anyway if they didn't activated it yet probably is very difficult to implement it properly..

[elder cape]

yeah, it's mostly for immersion

[rare mortar]

Here’s my dog to make you feel better

[high mauve]

Jack Russel Terrier?

[rare mortar]

Wippet+mystery breed

[thorny sparrow]

I assume the later versions will eventually comply with needing the recipe (which there is already a magazine for anyway). I think its just unlocked for testing at this point?

Personally I could make a dumbass primitive forge with the right materials now just from games and movies, but other than that you shouldn't start with those recipes lol

Unless you have blacksmith knowledge on a char of course

[dire dragon]

Those floppy ears!!! 😍 I don’t typically like the whippet dog breed but he/she is so cute!

[rare mortar]

🥰

[oak prism]

As of this update, plumbing is broken, let's just hope they fix it next patch.

[stoic frigate]

what do i do with the head now ?

i found

[analog spear]

a jack russell terror

[high mauve]

why is it so cute?

[stoic frigate]

@rose kraken Fork cannot be smelt anymore

[sharp kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/impossible-star-wars-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-gif-5440327

[stoic frigate]

i forged my first tools

https://tenor.com/view/kamala-harris-maya-rudolph-snl-tik-tok-dancing-gif-15762931892192040087

[hot knot]

i love it since it changes up the rather basic death poses

i would like it even if they just added more death poses instead of ragdolls but the ragdolls are def the start of something cool

[modern atlas]

Yeah, also new death poses would be welcomed!

[hot knot]

would help with the lack of melee ragdolls rn lol

i think the end goal is to make the ragdolls for all deaths anyways though

[rare mortar]

Cause she’s extra cute when she got done with a long run around the house

Cause she’s sleepy and happy

[modern wasp]

I’m thinking rag dolls should only be for deaths, and not whatever’s happening with guns lol. I love rag dolls with vehicles. I actually hate them with guns. The way they all flop over in the exact same way is kinda awful and they’re not even dead yet

[analog spear]

theyll get better over time im sure

[modern wasp]

I’m sure it will lol. But I just really hope they become on death only

[thorny sparrow]

Man I really appreciate the new button to jump to where annotated map places are on the main map

[marsh zinc]

same, my eyes lit up when i saw that

[rose kraken]

use spoons, they seem to still work

some crafts changed there, but it's still easy to lvl up

[rose kraken]

you sure the forged one isn't smeltable ?

the fine fork would require the advanced furnace cauz it's steel....

also mind that the primitive furnace can't smelt what the simple one can, and so goes for the advanced one

[ashen moss]

anybody else having trouble with the foraging screens? i cant find any places with foraging areas

[analog spear]

have any mods?

[ashen moss]

nothing that effects foraging

[analog spear]

disable any mod , make a new save and then try it

[ashen moss]

aight

might be map mods

i got grapeseed and erikas furniture store

[toxic lion]

Feedback for the devs:

Cars hitting hordes of zombies, of at least 20 to 30 zombies in terms of numbers, should not slow the vehicle down too much when hitting them with ragdolling zombies.

The cars should hit the zombies like really flying!

[fair moss]

20-30 zombies is going to be the weight of most cars in this setting. Sending all of them flying should basically cost all of the momentum of the car just because of conservation of kinetic energy.

Zomboid has (or had) a problem towards taking too little hits to fully remove all momentum, but blasting through that many zeds without the car slowing down is going too far the other way.

[sharp kindle]

Seriously though why this does nothing but make grinding worse

[modern wasp]

so i've got this dumb deer who keeps running around in circles but... i can't shoot it. i'm almost point blank and nothing

[winter flower]

I totally forgot to ask this, does the zombies still ragdoll while your dragging them by hand or do they use that animation? Haven't tested it yet

[modern wasp]

of course he stops circling when i start recording, but i shot it ponit blank and nothing happened. also it seems to be able to see me even though i'm crouching behind it :/

[silver galleon]

Dragging them has not changed I do believe

[modern wasp]

it'ss...... it's beautiful

[ashen moss]

Okay then just make the sandbox options more customizable so ppl can do shit by there own preferences

[sharp kindle]

Is this modded?

[modern wasp]

nope, that's why it's so amazing

[sharp kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/ohmygod-oh-my-god-joseph-gif-18523154

[modern wasp]

😂

[stray roost]

https://tenor.com/view/ch0colatchaud-burst-gif-21178804

[rocky plover]

I agree for the most part, but a car is not just weight. It has an engine powering it. And you would be hard pressed to stop a 100 horsepower car from moving with even 70 people

As long as traction is there the car will win

[hot knot]

id bet that 70 people attached to a car with a rope could stop the car from moving

[rocky plover]

On a dirt/gravel sure

On asphalt? No way

[hot knot]

i need a myth busters on this

[rocky plover]

Tbf it's just math tho. But without going into nitty gritty. 100 is roughly equivalent to 100 draft horses pulling something. 70 normal people obviously don't have the power of 100 horses

Now comes the traction thing. Without sudden increases in torque to actively try to break traction modern tires can "hook" onto asphalt for about 250 horsepowers

Not counting in other assistance devices like traction control etc.

[hot knot]

if you were like speeding through i dont think itll slow down with 70 people but like if it was just starting out i feel like 70 people could stop a car from going

[rocky plover]

On dirt/gravel,yes. Dirt would give way quickly and car would dig itself in a hole

[hot knot]

even on asphalt

the car wouldnt gain enough speed to push through the people

[rocky plover]

Car doesn't need speed

[hot knot]

fair

still feel like 70 people could stop a car though

200 pounds ramming into your hood isnt the healthiest thing for your car

[rocky plover]

100 hp car, even at like 1500rpms produces over 40 hp

[rocky plover]

Depends on how stable it is on the ground tbh

[hot knot]

• 70 people would be like 6 tons worth of people potentially

if you assume everyone in the crowd weight exactly 199 pounds

[rocky plover]

100 horse power car can easily pull 6 ton trailer

And it's not an issue of how much weight there is

[hot knot]

but its pulling the trailer not ramming into the trailer

[rocky plover]

Just how anchored it is

[hot knot]

if we are talking about like driving over people

if its the ropes yeah probably but i think the car would be slow asf

[rocky plover]

You can smash a car into 200 pound man and it would leave a dent and maybe busted radiator

[hot knot]

but times that by 70

[rocky plover]

You can smash into 200 pounds tree and it would go into the engine bay

[hot knot]

and you end up wrapped around the tree like a nice little bow

actually a 200 pound tree doesnt sound that heavy ngl...

im no treeologist so

[rocky plover]

I had to cut down a 200 pound tree at my property but closeish to road near a bend

Bcs yearly it was totalling like 10 cars

And it was still standing there

[hot knot]

infinite insurance glitch

[rocky plover]

Anyways! Bashbar is enough to stop 70 people from doing any major damage to your car

Unless they are flung onto your roof or something

[hot knot]

what if the 70th person has an evil vest on

[pulsar bridge]

finally i get solution about resolution screen in my laptop @pale scroll

[toxic lion]

What solution? Perhaps it will be helpful to us all.

[pulsar bridge]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1374765612584271984

[toxic lion]

Nice, thanks.

[fair moss]

Stop? No. Slow down significantly at the moment of impact? Yes

[livid reef]

Multiplayer when?

[elder cape]

soon... I can almost taste it

[surreal falcon]

january 2026

[livid reef]

Is this real?

Where did they say that?

[surreal falcon]

Nowhere, no one knows the date, you are merely one of the infinite number of askers, of MP release when we possibly do not know it until it actually drops. They did say it should come faster than B41 MP, which was around a year since unstable release.

[livid reef]

So it could be whenever basically

[surreal falcon]

I'm guessing we need major features of B42 to come first, but as long as it comes before December, the prediction is correct

[livid reef]

Didn’t they have like a dev plan on what features they are working on in what order?

[surreal falcon]

probably of the build order, not where MP would fall in. But I believe the word was that we get MP during unstable B42. So before stable, before December is the prediction

[livid reef]

Alright

Thanks bro

[surreal falcon]

Best of luck for waiting, we'll be having infinite "mp when" questions until the very day...

[elder cape]

as a person with no love for mp, these questions are so annoying

[toxic lion]

What else can you do?

Either they ask for MP, or we get complaints about no patches.

Can't win.

[rocky plover]

Tbf, build 42 is made with long term survival on big-ish servers in mind

[surreal falcon]

why would it be focused on MP, single player people also need long term survival

[rocky plover]

Bcs they said so in thursdoids

[surreal falcon]

do link

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/upcoming-features-b42/ In this its merely one part of the build 42 to provide servers to be able to last without having to wipe them due loot scarcity. No way it says the entire build is made with MP in mind

[rocky plover]

"Provide more community cooperation in multiplayer (and NPCs in B43 and beyond) with different interacting professions that can contribute to a community – as well as provide much more extensive crafting and building, encouraging trade and other interesting player interactions.

We want to give players more interesting choices of professions and activities to contribute to a survivor community, and allow for players to cut more unique and interesting niches for themselves within a survivor group or community.

Part of this is reshaping how the skill and XP system work to both make individuals less capable of mastering everything, while making their initial potential a lot higher without grinding if they spec into a particular skill heavily.

"

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/10/cellar-door-doid/

[surreal falcon]

Still doesn't say the entire build is for MP

just repeating the first statement

[marsh zinc]

B42 is going to help with longterm MP survival but thats not its sole purpose

keep it in mind

[rocky plover]

Yes, that crafting rework is made with big multiplayers communities in min

Not that it's this update entire purpose

I never said that to begin with

[rocky plover]

Read that sentence again

[surreal falcon]

build 42

not "crafting rework"

[rocky plover]

Build 42 is made with long term survival on big-ish servers IN MIND

There's more to that than just crafting rework

[surreal falcon]

as long as we're clear that its not some grand "MP build" that justifies people asking "mp when" endlessly as if it was the priority 😄

[rocky plover]

Yes, but they were promoting it with having multiplayer in mind when doing it

So people asking about multiplayer is justified

[surreal falcon]

well yeah MP servers suffer the most from loot scarcity because of the player count

but I stand by my earlier claims that single player experience is the important part, not everyone plays MP but everyone can play SP, on their own

[rocky plover]

Well not everyone plays SP, but there are people that only play MP

[surreal falcon]

Which is why I highly prefer we get the actual meat and bones of the Build 42 well before MP

[rocky plover]

It's the same argument

[surreal falcon]

Well except a lone player cannot play with people

PZ wasn't a multiplayer game when it was first made

[rocky plover]

I hope that we get MP earlier rather than later so they can get more feedback on update with "Multiplayer in mind"

And get more bugs out of MP to begin with

Bcs build 41 MP is... pain in many ways

[surreal falcon]

probably buggy and netcode aint perfect

I mean I got my bones broken by just driving a car without ever colliding, in MP

[rocky plover]

You need to disable 90% of anti-cheat to play vanilla game without any mods

[surreal falcon]

I suspect a friend with his car behind me, somehow managed to fracture my bones even we drove just fine

[rocky plover]

What gets me scared about 42 MP are ragdolls

They are often a cause for massive desynch in other games

[surreal falcon]

I guess ragdolls will be disabled when MP first comes...

until they work

[oak prism]

Like how they turned off plumbing?

[toxic lion]

I thought plumbing is back?

[swift goblet]

nah they'll do it good
they won't rush it with the release so before we get stable build 42, it will run good both in mp and sp

[sage ledge]

MP seems to be getting a lot of improvements. They already shared an earlier video of the desync improvement from a while ago.

[thorny sparrow]

Plumbing definitely works fine just plumbed a sink to a barrel so maybe thats a mod issue @oak prism

[oak prism]

Huh, weird

[whole parcel]

I can’t tell if it’s the ragdolls. But my performance is horrible in B42.8.1

I have a 4070S and a good CPU

idk

[analog spear]

are you using mods ?

[whole parcel]

A couple but they aren't anything that should affect performance

[analog spear]

i would disable them and see if your performance is still bad on a new save

[whole parcel]

Alright, thanks.

[modern wasp]

are wild animals broken for anyone else? no matter how close i am, the aiming cursor doesn't turn red. It's like i'm aiming at nothing when there's a deer right there

[whole parcel]

Yeah so i get like around 144fps which is my vsync turned on, but zooming out and randomly it will hitch badly

Like its not very smooth

[analog spear]

what about turning vsync off?

[whole parcel]

i might reset my pz settings

[whole parcel]

same issue

[tired epoch]

Fps cap?

[whole parcel]

144, i redownloaded game and reset all settings i will see if it improves

maybe debug mode makes it lag

[tired epoch]

Try different settings for fps too, some people reported issues when they cap it, but uncapped working fine

[sterile cradle]

Will players ragdoll when hit by a car when MP comes out?

[kind oyster]

Unlikely

[wary wren]

Probably not because there might be performance drops with ragdolls on and especially if you'll consider having players have ragdolls on them then I don't know

We'll just have to see

[brisk walrus]

In the announcement video Indie posted it was two players, and one got hit by car.

[modern wasp]

the whole "bumping into zombies changing your direction" thing sucks and i hope it changes back to the way it was

[sterile cradle]

Clears hordes with spare cars final boss

[modern wasp]

what?

[sterile cradle]

you know exactly what I mean

[fair moss]

No, actually you phrased it so badly we can't

[modern wasp]

i know what you said but i have no idea how it's related to what I said

[frail tinsel]

I will k*ss women in 2026

[sterile cradle]

The bumping into zombies changes your direction is very realistic, and you only don't like it because you usually hotwire cars and drive into hordes to clear the majority of them

[modern wasp]

lmfao

whole lotta assumptions there but whatever you say bud

also the fuck you mean it's realistic XD if i body slam someone, either they get shoved over, or i trip and fall. I don't bounce off of them and continue sprinting in a totally different direction

bro wanted to insult me so badly i guess

although, if you tried to sprint into a zombie with low strength it'd be neat if they just grabbed you

hear me out: low strength, you fall. medium strength, you and the zombie fall. high strenght, you barrel through

[brazen vale]

Mp will be out tomorrow

[fickle elm]

rip you can't melt down metal baseball bats

[oak prism]

Weird, still can't plumb anything.

[fickle elm]

is it possible to make the molds that don't break?

[thorny sparrow]

You can saw them into aluminum scrap if that helps lol

[harsh epoch]

are bows planned for b42

and crossbows

[analog spear]

thought they said bows would come laters, not sure about crossbows

[harsh epoch]

i would just love for bows at least

Will zeds be able to get through these fences

[analog spear]

no idea about those tall fences i hope so in the future

[floral pewter]

imagine zombies breaking through the prison fences.

[analog spear]

finally!!

[gritty gale]

if i drink this will I get super powers

[analog spear]

lol jesus haha

[modern wasp]

XD does it work when you put it on the dispenser and fill up a bottle?

[gritty gale]

lol sadly I dont have the dispenser

thats a great idea though

[modern wasp]

please XD please i have to know

[gritty gale]

lol once I get to a dispenser ill try it

[silver galleon]

Speaking of dispenser, I know it was supposed to be just to showcase things, but where pop/snack machines, they looked so good

https://youtu.be/opGQu8LCdEs?si=MFR3-JCoMhXfCfgA

[gritty gale]

this looks amazing

[stray roost]

i need thjs now

https://tenor.com/view/ch0colatchaud-burst-gif-21178804

[thick bone]

gonna put Spiffo plushies in vending machines on MP servers

[marsh zinc]

i want a game feature that allows you to deliberately "taint" consumables through certain means

would be nice for trolling in mp :3c

[surreal falcon]

what kind of feature would that be, you can already add bleach to foods and shit, and if you add a subtle amount, it cannot be detected (and/or detection is based on the targets cooking skill?)

[marsh zinc]

bleach would just kill you/make you sick but i like the idea of dying and then reanimating

[gritty gale]

I was gonna poison someones roast in an MP server once but one of the admins was like "If you do that im gonna ban you"

[marsh zinc]

imagine sneaking that stuff into a base with multiple players

[surreal falcon]

so basically you want to use the zombie mechanic against players, unaware of the danger

[marsh zinc]

yeah, to an extent

[surreal falcon]

although I'd be pretty sure whoever dies, can easily let the other know sabotage is present

[marsh zinc]

maybe, maybe

[surreal falcon]

but I could see this kind of mechanic work awesome with NPCs, enemy factions

[marsh zinc]

that being said it still has a psychological impact

[marsh zinc]

yes you make a good point

[gritty gale]

do they still plan to make certain masks hide your username in MP?

[surreal falcon]

can't always win against a faction solo, so trickery is needed

[gritty gale]

thatd be insane for pvp servers

[surreal falcon]

that would be one of the coolest shit ever

[gritty gale]

fr, youd be able to actually hide

[surreal falcon]

actual 200 IQ idea

[gritty gale]

itd be way better than your massive username above your head when trying to ambush someone lol

[surreal falcon]

yeah...oh look DC is going around in the bushes, better kill him just in case

[gritty gale]

lol

They should also make the spiffo statue in LV grabble

[lyric bone]

https://tenor.com/view/autobot-transformers-crane-rise-hook-gif-16237470

[silver galleon]

[lyric bone]

[sacred warren]

[lyric bone]

[open edge]

is this the working vending machine mod? I saw it before but never tried it

[void bramble]

no, that is from an devbuild taken out of a thursdroid

it was a demo to highlight the new crafting and UI abilities

as far as i know, its not that far implemented into the current game build, so its not recreatable, atleast not easily

[open edge]

oh vanilla? thats great news

[open edge]

well yh thats a start, they could apply/ expand it to other appliances in future

like how we can transfer liquids now, maybe we could also pour stuffs on other thing like sink or gas pump

[deft turtle]

i really wish we could have thursdoid update posts back like

first it was every two weeks then a month

now it's been like half a year and i know they post patch notes but it's not the same vibe yknow

[acoustic pasture]

🔥

[sterile cradle]

Real, It was something Indie Stone prided themselves on too, hope they get brought back before B42 Stable

[sharp kindle]

I noticed they can't break through barbed wire fences

[floral pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x57sEigMPno

project zomboid in the simpsons.

[brisk walrus]

Accidentally hitting the Q. 😂

[floral pewter]

its worse when driving and hitting the Q button

[marsh zinc]

press Q for free weapons

[sterile cradle]

Anyone else slightly annoyed by unpackaged food items? Like why am I finding a single tortilla on the supermarket shelf? I think we should get way more packaged foods before b42 hits stable

[floral pewter]

bag of tortilla chips would of made more sense

[sharp kindle]

I usually press Q when shocked

Which is a badass way of having your character scream from shock

[modern wasp]

._. disposable lighters really only last for 4 cigarettes. insanity

[marsh zinc]

Insanity! I have gone mad!

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-insanity-polygon-donut-ive-gone-completely-mental-death-gif-25207999

[modern wasp]

nah i think that's a skill issue because you only hotwire cars and drive into hordes to clear them 🙄

[modern wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/addition-to-mycollection-more-collection-gif-14095863

[sterile cradle]

Salty from yesterday 😭

[modern wasp]

😂 more like confused

[sterile cradle]

Think I misunderstood you originally to be fair, but my point still stands that if you handle your hordes by dashing straight through them, you would be knocked aside by them

[sterile cradle]

Theres a trait for that I think, may be a mod

[modern wasp]

❤️ thank you for that. because damn that was uncalled for. but alright... there goes my excuse to bother you about it for the rest of time, drat :3

[marsh zinc]

i like the idea of the disorganized/clumsy trait also heightening consumption for lighters and other similar devices (not being conservative, basically)

or perhaps that could be its own trait

but yeah 4 uses for disposable lighters is ass

[modern wasp]

it's soooo ass

[sterile cradle]

4 uses? I've been using the same plastic lighter for 6 months, no way they think 4 uses is fair

[modern wasp]

😭 man they think everything wears out after 24 hours

[sterile cradle]

Sometimes I wonder if any of the indie stone devs actually have any real world experience, or if they've forgotten it all since they've been nothing but coding for 2 years

[modern wasp]

lol, i mean i kinda get it for balancing reasons, but honestly it's not balanced at alllllll

[marsh zinc]

shoulda let it last thrice as long ingame atleast

it doesnt need to be anywhere close to realistic, or else you could have the same "disposable" lighter for many ingame weeks/months

and you can find a lot of them

[modern wasp]

honestly, let us keep disposable lighters for months. the devs want us to do long term runs where we run out of stuff and have to rely on primitive crafting right... that's not very satisfying if everything only lasts 4 months. Let us really drag out the failure of modern tech

[sterile cradle]

Where's the lighter fluid too? I know you can refill Zippo lighters from other Zippos, but wheres the actual fluid.

And novelty lighters? I want novelty lighters too

[marsh zinc]

if youre talking about the "retro" metal lighters, we have these ingame, they're called gasoline lighters i think

correct me if im wrong

[sterile cradle]

No, I'm talking about a spiffo themed lighter where the flame comes out his tail

[analog spear]

butane

[sterile cradle]

There's real world equivalents too, I bought a statue of liberty lighter once that had a working torch

[modern wasp]

does anyone have experience with m14's.... because i have 5 aiming and it takes 3-5 shots to kill anything. that's including headshots, and headshots when they're on the ground. At point blank. I keep saying guns suck and everyone else thinks they're fine, wtf is going on XD

with the first stage of panic maximum

anyone know how much impact muscle strain has?

[analog spear]

nopers , i play with it at 1.4 just fine with melee and guns though

[marsh zinc]

1.4 is crazy

[analog spear]

Not really i play with strong trait so its not too bad

[fickle elm]

muscle strain also becomes less of an issue when you've gained experience with the weapon

[stoic frigate]

the average time for me to reach level 4 in knapping is about 2 hours

[floral pewter]

12 days survived in PZ so far everything is going good.

[analog spear]

Go ghost!

[gritty gale]

how do I get the zomboid character into blender

[fervent crown]

Questions for devs: Is the new ragdoll effects still actually 2D but tricking GPUs into thinking it's 3D? Or is that actually 3D effects?

[winter flower]

I think it follows the same thing as the vehicles and 3d models for props and such