42.3.1 UNSTABLE Released

[trim raptor]

It was confirmed by nasKo that they are focused on the beta Build 42 right now, so no Thursdoid until later.

So, don't expect Februrary or March Thursdoids. Maybe April? Maybe May? Or maybe June?

We don't know. No ETAs.

[rocky fossil]

honestly wasnt really expecting them since we have build 42

[bold flare]

You should be able to research it if you have the option

[crimson gust]

Put it in your inventory

[river citrus]

is the bug still active?

I've been eating half a stick a butter for 4 days now and my character still isn't gaining or losing weight.

[rocky fossil]

on a new save?

[river citrus]

existing save

[rocky fossil]

i would try on a new save and see real quick

[river citrus]

okay but how do I fix my old save

I wonder if I need to use that mod once just to set it back to normal and then turn it off

oh I think I have to do this to fix an existing save

yeah, I went into game and even though the game is updated, my characters calorie count was still set to NaN

on an old save

so I set it to how many calories I'd just eaten and it worked

[ornate smelt]

Aight

[crimson gust]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413993204

Could we get a fix for this issue? If I'm not in the cell / very near to the rain barrels they will not collect any water at all.

Issue is important enough for multiple reasons: troughs for animals, collectors for base supply, et cetera.

[trim raptor]

Request it in the forums. And probably will need to make it as an option that's off by default, because it lowers performance a bit.

[uncut fable]

ooo, i do think They were in a backpack. Good call. I'll test that.

[uncut fable]

yep, there are several threads in the forum about it. on the positive end, I think it's probably related to whatever prevents animals from dying of thirst or hunger while you're off screen. You can find them dying of thirst, but they aren't already dead yet.

[grave stump]

Is it intended that a full health farmed plant gives one seed, but finding a wild one gives like 4-18?

[fickle otter]

Surely the impact could be minimised by limiting it to player crafted and placed containers, and troughs that are in player managed/created zones

[fierce spoke]

My game was working fine on build 42.2, but today after updating to 42.3.1, it no longer opens. My setup is a GTX 1060 5GB, Xeon 2666, and 16GB of RAM (the performance was good on build 42.2 with this setup as I play in 4K)

[uncut fable]

did you get the seed from harvesting it alongside the actual plants? or did you leave it longer? In 41, you had to let them go to seed to get seeds, but in 42 when I did that with one plant, they went straight from flowering to dead.

also, it may be related both to how long they were ready to harvest seeds from, and your agriculture rating

[wanton scarab]

What?

[grave stump]

Yep harvested them at flowering which is the new seed bearing right?

[uncut fable]

Is it? I didn't realize that was supposed to be the new seed bearing. too much experience with actual gardening... It's after the flowers are gone that you actually get seeds

[grave stump]

Yeah it seems like there are some ways to get more seeds, like some vegetables you can pick them out but I keep only get one seed from flowering ones

Mind you ‘1’ seed is enough for a plot so it’s like one batch of seed i guess

I think the balance is WIP but I feel like the foraged seed drops are still tooled for the old build where you needed multiple seeds per plot

[trim adder]

lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[trim raptor]

Yes, you heard (or read) it correctly. If you see more game-breaking bugs, report them to the devs, so they can hand out patch notes to you like candy.

Otherwise, please wait for a while for 42.4.0

[uncut fable]

42.4.2 is gonna be the bomb dot com

[regal fractal]

Why can't I put cheese in my omelettes? 0/10 game.

[fierce spoke]

Your silhouette looks like senator armstrong

[wanton scarab]

no whats the nan calorie bug

[fickle otter]

Its when grandma sees you aint eating right and funnels a roast dinner down your gullet

All jokes aside it stands for Not a Number and was breaking nutrition when players drank water or smth

[uncut fable]

You are like the 10th person in the last 2 years to tell me that, but it's better than before. I grew the beard, when people told me I looked like Dick Cheney

[late coral]

its multiplayer now?

[charred tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[teal geode]

Is standing on the top of a skyscraper during the day supposed to look like you're in the void, or is this a glitch new to this update?

[trim raptor]

NaN calories bug = Bug where the calories count your player character has will become NaN, which makes your weight stay at 70kg by default, which is underweight. It hinders your stamina, your combat, your encumberence tolerance level, etc.

[trim raptor]

No, it's just that you haven't been able to see what is there, so the game doesn't load the tiles until you actually lay eyes on it.

[teal geode]

Huh. When I tried this in previous updates I don't recall it looking like this in the same circumstances

[fierce spoke]

I think you should become a body builder it may be a hint

[jagged mulch]

Do you use Better FPS or something? it's because PZ does not render cells which is not close of you.
let's say you are at 32th floors, means those black areas are the tiles which at least 96 tiles far away from you.

[flat venture]

Hot take: I should getting buttermilk when I churn butter 🧈

[ionic lark]

a pot of water gives the same result.

[crimson gust]

you need a table / surface

[ionic lark]

thanks

[hot harbor]

is there a fix to calories? I believe my char has its calories bugged now, is it possible to fix them? if so how?

[ionic schooner]

You need to use debug mode. Open the debug menu in game and select General Debuggers -> Body. In there you will see Calories with the bugged value, move the slider and it should be fixed.

[hot harbor]

love you

[ionic lark]

It's really weird. You can also put the pan on the floor and cover the rice.

[finite flax]

TIS

steel ingots are useless right now

you can only cut them into steel chunks

[leaden fulcrum]

I don't know

[finite flax]

and those steel chunks are not a material for any recipe

you cannot smelt them

[leaden fulcrum]

Rabbit leather serves the same purpose as other types of leather, only for making backpacks. (And all other leathers are simple to remove, no magazines are required).

[finite flax]

and you cannot make them into a steel bar

[grave stump]

Pierced chunks go into maces i've been usign the hell out of them

[fierce spoke]

the new customization screen is beautiful 120% a needed change thank you indie stone

[fossil leaf]

true

[trim raptor]

Is it possible to mod the character models into 4K high poly counterparts?

Just wanted to see if my brand spanking new graphics card can handle it.

[frozen lava]

why do we need to put clay into a sack if we are gonna immediatly take it out anyway?

is that just because it's WIP or is that some kinda limitation?

[bold flare]

Design. Everything obtained from tiles will go into sacks (dirt, sand, clay etc.)

[frozen lava]

damn, kinda annoying IMO. Thats just another thing you require to use the primitive stuff

is there any plan on beeing able to use other things for collecting dirt or clay etc.? Using a garbage bag would make sense I think

[flat venture]

Nothing says "primitive" like a garbage bag. Carved bucket maybe?

[frozen lava]

true true but I was talking more abt a normal playthrough as garbage bags are faaaar easier to find than sacks

But I think a carved bucket would also make sense. Just have it have less capacity to balance it out

[flat venture]

Well think of it this way. Any liquid container can hold a mixture of liquids. Any material container could hold material?

So anything that's a bag (within reason, not saying a vegetable basket should hold sand) should hold any material and maybe a mixture?

[frozen lava]

Yeah I think that'd make sense. I always wondered why the hell only the sack can hold material anyway

Like we got 90 or so container for liquids but only one for materials?

[flat venture]

The Devs are already going in that direction so why not go full regalia, right?

[flat venture]

My point exactly

[fierce spoke]

Going to try playing without the world map since reading maps in game are a viable replacement for it now

[uncut fable]

honestly, since part of the process for processing wild clay into something you can use for pottery involves adding water to make it a thinner slurry, so that certain stuff settles out, and then letting it dry. buckets make much more sense for collecting clay

[sinful sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls8VCZhprao PZ needs this option to start a car with a flathead screwdriver since this game takes place before cars had immobolizers

[uncut fable]

verified from earlier discussion, The issue with my not learning recipes was that it was in a bag. If a learnable item is in a bag, you have the option, but if you click it it doesn't do anything.

[frozen lava]

we can already shortcircuit them

[uncut fable]

something I've noticed with this latest update, certain activities are giving me XP notifications above the character's head. which is something I recall from 41, but hadn't been seeing much of in 42. But it's kind of Hit or Miss. some of the carpentry stuff is doing it. I got a notification when I made water barrels. I did not get a notification when making a compost bin. I got notification when sawing logs into planks. I got notification from one of the things I was cooking, but I don't remember which thing. But other evolved recipes are not giving me an XP notification. Is that something that's being worked on and slowly built in?

[frozen lava]

I randomly got a notification after dissasembling a TV and I was confused af lmao

Also, the notification duration shouldn't be affected by gamespeed

literally impossible to read a notification when sped up

[uncut fable]

Oh yeah absolutely. also, if there was some kind of a log you could go to to see what your last you notifications were, that would be awesome.

[frozen lava]

yeah that'd be cool too. Especially when you get one of those really long notifications about learning recipes

[sinful sinew]

car hotwiring in PZ is connecting 2 wires together start it.

[frozen lava]

I know but I don't see how this would be any different from a gameplay perspective

[sinful sinew]

using a flathead screwdriver as a key to start a car since that method also known by car thieves to steal cars.

realistically using a screwdriver to start a car would be more quicker than guessing which wires to connect together to start a car.

[frozen lava]

ah, yeah maybe but honestly doesn't seem interesting or worth it enough to add

[frozen lava]

okay?

[high nebula]

that hasn't really been possible since like the 50s

[sinful sinew]

cars didnt have immobolizers until the 2000s

[high nebula]

it's not about immobilizers

an ignition works the same way as a lock, you need a key to turn it properly

if you just ram a screwdriver in there chances are that you'll end up destroying the pins and making the ignition completely unusable

[sinful sinew]

people who have stolen with with screwdrivers will also pop out the ignition lock to put a scrwdriver.

[high nebula]

thats kinda just a kia thing tbh

i mean some cars have that flaw, most don't

theoretically i guess its possible but i don't know, i've never done such a thing before

i have hotwired older cars, though (not for theft, i'm a mechanic and you'd be surprised by how often people lose keys.)

though i do agree that hotwiring cars in such a short time frame is very unrealistic, since you need to have knowledge of what wire is the power, which one is the starter, and which one is the ignition

it varies from car to car, and you need more tools than just a screwdriver (unless you'd like to get shocked by twelve volts)

[rocky fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-ross-geller-david-schwimmer-tv-series-american-sitcom-gif-17315839

[fierce spoke]

HOTWIRE NEEDS A FULL REWORK

[rocky fossil]

lol make them need tools and stuff to wire it

wire strippers!!

[high nebula]

why yes, i want my overly realistic game to be even more overly realistic, thank you.

[rocky fossil]

ahahah

[sinful sinew]

hotwire minigame

[hot harbor]

can you learn fire bomb's recipe through research?

or stuff like that?
my understanding is that engineer is now 100% wasted point if thats the case

[uncut fable]

I mean... That is what hot wiring is. just.... You don't put the wires in the key slot. That part's weird.

[uncut fable]

It worked on cars from the '80s and '90s too. It does destroy the pins, but the way the pins were made in most of them, destroying the pins knocks them out of the way, and allows the cylinder to turn.

[uncut fable]

This is why I always keep a slim jim in my backpack, my glove box, and my desk at work.

[high nebula]

ah, i wasn't aware, thanks

[uncut fable]

thing is, it did depend on the vehicle in question, and yes, it was real easy to break them in such a way that it would then lock up completely and you'd have to do a true hotwire. took skill to do it the right way.

[prisma lintel]

Oh my god it’s the escape the car flash game I played as a kid

[finite flax]

I found a bug in the forge

when you make shin armor, it gives you thigh armor, and when you make metal thigh armor, it gives you shin armor

I lost a couple of steel sheets for that

[rocky fossil]

will we be able to get a bigger character winder thingie? i wanna see the gross clothing combination my char wears lol

[ionic schooner]

Weak and pacifist, just how I imagined puppers

Ahhh and clumsy, accidentally wrecking havoc

[rocky fossil]

lmao

pretty much lol

just kind of winging it here

[ionic schooner]

Could you post a screenshot of the recipes?

[sinful sinew]

noice

[bold flare]

she dropped cherry cake

[rocky fossil]

floor cake is the best

[whole kettle]

Cool

[agile flax]

Cooln't

[regal fractal]

Are cement floors a thing like in the old masonry mod?

[fickle otter]

This

[ashen cloak]

I need multiplayer pls

[agile flax]

Soon™

[trim raptor]

Might as well wait until, say, future builds.

[fierce spoke]

just encountered a sprinter that sounded like a cordyceps zombie (no mods) i didn't know they gave sprinters new voice types never had a sprinter sound like this before i guess zombies have individual voice types now

scared me half to death

[uncut fable]

sheeee dropped, cherry cake, using that knife until it breaks, growling zomboids dont care about stakes, sweet cherry cake

[rocky fossil]

lol

i sang that song in my head when they said that

[agile flax]

🗣️

[finite flax]

Coffee drinks are bugged

after using a whole coffee in a coffee machine, the drink doesn't cure fatigue at all

[bright trail]

did you check this in debug

[finite flax]

normal gameplay

[fierce spoke]

thank god they removed ratpocalypse from the game

by 6 months in there would be around 2000 rats all over even in spots they shouldn't spawn at and they'd cover the roads ruining your vehicle finally it got fixed

[sinful sinew]

car getting damaged due to running over a rat logic

[fierce spoke]

they should make all animals smaller than a raccoon unable to damage vehicles

or limit it to only tires..

[sinful sinew]

rabbits should not damage hoods due to them being small animals

[loud beacon]

I've been scouring the map but I can't seem to find any clay deposits. any advice where to look? ive tried along lakes near rosewood but still no luck

[sinful sinew]

Running over a deer with a car would cause more damage due to that animal being much larger

here is an example of car damage from running over a deer.

[charred tapir]

Roadkill my beloved

[loud beacon]

do you need to turn on search mode to see Clay deposits? I can't seem to find them

[rocky fossil]

#1338925776510259250 message looks like this, the square, near bodies of water is what they said

[flat venture]

No other choice so, might as well.

[modest cliff]

can we get raccoons next update please

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[quick steeple]

Im still waiting for breakable high fences

If zombies can break high fences

This will make project zomboid a truly helpless place

[fickle otter]

Can we get the clothing descriptors for "worn" renamed to make it less ambiguous wether the game means worn - equipped or worn- damaged? Certain tailoring recipes say things like "cannot be worn" but it's not clear which type of worn it means

[candid halo]

Yeah it's funny. I made the joke to my friends showing them a worn piece of clothing i was wearing and I said "Worn? yeah I sure hope it is.."

[maiden granite]

I think the only breakable fences will be the metal chains not all the fences

[quick steeple]

I hope not. All fences should be breakable

[sonic crypt]

Please add being able to make bows and arrows. Of all the carving and natural carving, I don't see how this didn't get added.

[maiden granite]

is a wip for now they are working on animations, crafting balance and 3d arrow model reacting to world phisics

it's already planned with the 42

[fickle otter]

I just hope this means thrown objects will look better too 😅

[sonic crypt]

Oh awesome! Thank you, I'm really glad they're adding that.

[bright trail]

I wanna throw bottles to dovert hordes in Apocalypse mode

[sonic crypt]

That'd be really cool, too.

[bright trail]

“Combat is best avoided”

[fickle otter]

Truth

[fierce spoke]

Tlou

[agile flax]

Tlou

[fierce spoke]

devs can we please get a 3d model for generators please like pleaseeee please let us carry generators properly having to use mods for it just to keep it in line with the corpse dragging now is really immersion breaking

or just rework carrying heavy things in general make a trolley item that spawns inside of hardware stores and some grocery store backrooms (would be used to carry boxes and stuff out of delivery trucks)

it would function as a way to carry heavy things that have no handles

equip in both hands

uses very similar code to the dragging corpse mechanic

you just walk backwards or forwards with a trolley it can carry up to 2 crates or one generator it can carry an entire popsicle fridge without the fridge having to be taken apart into 2 pieces

it has very practical use.

[fickle otter]

^^

Being able to push and pull furniture one tile at a time would be sick

To be able to quickly block a door with a bookcase man

[fierce spoke]

i think couches should be able to be lifted up slightly and dragged or pushed by one tile

chairs lifted up too

you should be able to stack chairs for easier storage (something schools and stores do)

you should be able to flip some stuff on their sides to block doors and window

couch dont block the full door? flip it on its side

istg if we dont get any of this stuff in b42 i might just have to make a mod for it using the new grapple tech

i mean all the base code is already there its mostly just visual unless you go the full dragging route

trolley would use trunk storage as the storage for the items

trolley would use basic car physics but more grounded and less dangerous sorta like it'd be stuck to the ground but able to be dragged over corpses and small obstacles

trolley would use an animation sort of like the corpse dragging one

to be fair its unrealistic for our zomboid character no matter how buff to be able to lift an entire generator filled with gasoline for up to 6 miles at a time before being tired

hose = syphon

trolley = carry heavy end game items

would continue the realistic balance b42 is looking for

[fierce spoke]

at most max strength would make it possible to lift it into the trunk of a car.

you could use a pop up like the one for trailers once the trolley is near a container like the trunk

where you grab the item on top and put it into the container

[frozen lava]

I swear if we get trolleys before bikes I'll be mad

[fierce spoke]

it would give us the base code for bicycles...

[maiden granite]

i think we have just to way skizoot with his mod actually those things should remain a modder job...

[frozen lava]

how?

[fierce spoke]

it'd be a new more grounded vehicle physics that uses grapple tech

the exact kind needed for bicycles

all it'd need is animation tweaking to make you sit down like a car

and use the handlebars peddling is more complex tho but that could just be an animation

they could give trolleys momentum that would be nice

weight = less or more speed + heavier to move

leave the trolley on a hill it'll roll down with too much weight or just fall over

[frozen lava]

how bout crashing?

[fierce spoke]

crashing the bike would probably just be you falling off it

[fickle otter]

Plus there's always the chance you get one witha dodgy wheel

[fierce spoke]

just use the fence based fall for the bicycle with new animation and trigger

[frozen lava]

that would look silly as hell

[frozen lava]

yeah that'd work

[fierce spoke]

bicycle could use luck based rolls on crashing and a helmet could reduce the chance of you getting a head injury when crashing

[frozen lava]

just any protective headgear should IMO

[fierce spoke]

remember how they reworked headgears now they can reduce your vision cone

using ANY headgear that blocks your eyes is now a trade off

oh and ekron is back in b42

now fallas lake and ekron both exist

[fierce spoke]

to be honest i bet braven would want to make a trolley mod.

braven bicycles b42 is going to go so hard

[supple flax]

all these people know how B41 update felt to B40ians now

[fierce spoke]

I'VE PLAYED THESE GAMES BEFOREEE

[maiden granite]

but the degradation of the clothes is still only about getting dirty or also finally the clothes get worn with time?

[finite flax]

I went to the west point school library

found just 3 books

tailoring 1, glassmaking 2

and Maint 5, just the one I needed

so, is confirmed, maint books can also spawn at libraries, not just at factories and storage spots

[maiden granite]

1.5 mb update?

[agile flax]

F

[narrow kestrel]

if anybody is still struggling with black screen on start up i was able to "fix it" but opting out of the unstable branch and loading the game up in biuld 41 and set my screen setting to borderless windowed. then i loaded the game up in 42 and it was working but if i put the game into fullscreen i go back to black screen. hope this helps.

[crimson gust]

huge thumbs up

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[ashen vapor]

Is it normal that changing the UI rendering fps from 30 to 120 affects the gameplay fps by like -90 fps or it should not affect it?

[tacit orchid]

the chicken bomb still persists in 42.3

[rocky fossil]

lol

[rocky fossil]

are you playing with any mods?

[tacit orchid]

no mods

notice the hatch was closed the night it happened as with the last 2 builds

[sinful sinew]

making bases at farm houses is the best thing to do.

[rocky fossil]

mine live in a mansion while i live in the garage! cause this is thew ay

[trim raptor]

I recalled the devs said that will come after multiplayer hits unstable.

[rocky fossil]

noice

[ionic schooner]

It means equipped

[modest cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/lmfao-unfunny-gif-23865640

[sinful sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-trailer-gta-6-hamlet-old-lady-hammer-gif-17899703668419291158

we need dual weilding in PZ that should make both hands function

[neat field]

how did you manage to have yellow fog?

[rocky fossil]

its from tropical storm lol

[neat field]

ooh is that a mod?

[rocky fossil]

nopers vanilla

[neat field]

whaaaat??

[fierce spoke]

louisville checkpoint needs more zombie spawns

[rocky fossil]

lol errr

[fierce spoke]

is it normal to find 6 hottiez magazines in the military checkpoint.

[rocky fossil]

lol

[trim raptor]

Asking if this has been reported yet? The duplicate "Add Sheet" menu option in the right context menu.

v42.3.1 , and the bug is still there.

[agile flax]

Add Sheet

[rocky wave]

you really should Add Sheet

[fierce spoke]

i think having wakeful + restless sleeper breaks sleeping because everytime i wake up im still tired without even having a nightmare.

[trim raptor]

This isn't my house. I already have another safe house ready for the heli event.

Also, is this another bug? The wrench icon is grayed out by default.

[rocky fossil]

i can place it still , thats odd

[trim raptor]

Yeah, the icon is grayed out as a color state, so I don't really know.

[trim raptor]

Alright, made 2 bug reports.

[grave stump]

Does anyone know what impacts butchering yield? I am level 4 and just butchered a 700 emcumbrance cow with a hunting knife and got 1 steak and 1 beef?... do moodles impact it? the type of knife?

[trim raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSDtend2VGM

Beef butchering is inconsistent.

[grave stump]

This guys forum post seems right https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/78339-4230-rev25882-issue-with-meat-hook-yeilds-i-think-i-figured-out-the-issue/#replyForm

[grave stump]

Did you watch this whole thing? Was there anything to take away in terms of getting the most bang for your buck?

[vivid fog]

Jesus, that’s very in depth

[grave stump]

Seems right on the money though, I did a bunch tests and the ground gives way more meat accross the board.

[grave stump]

So I tested it a bunch of times, and the hook is consistently giving way less than butchering on the ground and it’s worse the bigger the animal. I wonder if a big part of the issues with butchering yields being low is related to a bug with the hook? I get around 11 pieces of decent meat from a cow on the ground at level 4 butcher, if I am supposed to be getting even more than that on the hook that might actually be a decent amount (like 20 pieces for example I’d be fine with per cow), but because everyone assumes you get more on the hook, and it’s bugged and giving low yields, everyone things the yield is too low?

[trim raptor]

No, no best bang for your buck (or cow). The best I can say is, get a really sharp meat butcher, and be level 10 butchering.

I'm pretty sure this will get tweaked in later patches.

The devs are currently focused on crafting.

[grave stump]

Yeah but the hook is also clearly bugged

So I wouldn’t use it right now unless you need leather

[trim raptor]

There are some bugfixes going to the hook.

[grave stump]

Where did you see that?

[trim raptor]

43.3.0, frankenstein animals from butchering hook

[grave stump]

Oh yeah but that’s just related to the animals getting up and walking away, not meat yields

[trim raptor]

The food calories situation is bad in general, so it's not just the meat yields.

I think there is a deeper fix coming in a future patch.

[grave stump]

Yeah I mean they literally just need someone to sit an match the foods up to realistic calorie amounts, hell I’d do it for free lmao

Although milk gives calories now so my cow produces 6000 calories a day for me lmao

Without the drawbacks of eating butter, and it never makes you feel full!

[fierce spoke]

e

[agile flax]

i

[fallow fossil]

o

[crimson gust]

Milk also seems to reduce pain from muscle strain

[agile flax]

[crimson gust]

Drink 500 mL of milk and you literally go from agony to normal in time to do like 3-4 more exercise sets

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-hell-yeah-shades-sunglasses-deal-with-it-gif-8665704

Strong bones.

[agile flax]

Lmao

[grave stump]

TIS taking money from Big Milk!

[wary surge]

Guys

When you buy zomboid does it start with b41

[ocean furnace]

yeah because b41 is the latest stable

[bright trail]

Yeah, you have to opt into Build 42 Unstable to play Build 42

when Build 42 stable releases, everyone who buys and downloads Project Zomboid is going to start with B42

[wary surge]

Alright i was asking for a friend

[crimson gust]

Would it be possible for the interior / exterior render view to be consistent with that of the zombies?

If I am looking at a window and I am not essentially within "1-2" tiles of it, I will not see zombies near the windows (or beyond), vice versa with me being inside and seeing zombies outside. Which annoyingly is in contrast to what zombies can "see", where they have way better vision.

[trim raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/geoff-craig-ferguson-oh-hell-yeah-hell-yeah-gif-372642428256356019

[ashen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-love-pet-lover-gif-24924793

[agile flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-love-pet-lover-gif-24924793

[finite flax]

when you repair clothes (with wholes, with tailoring 8+) the condition sometimes doesn't go back to full

is this inteded?

[regal fractal]

Since the last patch my weight hasn't been changing. Is this something with the patch or should I be looking at my mods?

[granite fog]

You need to fix it via debug mode #1338925776510259250 message

It's a bug

[regal fractal]

Thanks, although I'm still a little unclear on what I should be setting which slider to, besides just manually adjusting weight

[granite fog]

Set calories to 0 because their value is nan (not defined)

Same with protein etc

[granite fog]

If you find it easier, use this solution #1338925776510259250 message

[regal fractal]

Thanks

[bright trail]

Do mineral deposits respawn now? I mined one in my save on 42.2.1 last week and earlier tonight I loaded it in 42.3 and it re-appeared

granted its been like a in-game month since I mined that deposit but it was like my first one i ever mined

[fair moon]

Brah

[bold flare]

was the save created after the patch 42.3.1?

[ocean furnace]

Plastering walls still bugged, or do you still need a paintbrush (instead of plastering trowel)?

[bold flare]

working here

[ocean furnace]

My save is from like 42.1.0, would that have anything to do with my inability to plaster walls?

At least I cannot find a recipe from either crafting or building menu to plaster and right click menu does not bring it up

[bold flare]

Yes, you should create a new save

[ocean furnace]

gotcha, good to know

[fickle otter]

I dunno if its unique to b42 but, does anyone else find it a little jarring that when you enter combat stance in melee, you dont face where your cursor was, but rather the point on the ground projected down to by the melee aim indicator thingy?

Its not much of an issue at a distance, but up close (where melee generally happens) it kinda forces the aim of your hits to the wrong place sometimes if you are doing this horizontally

Like a whole 45 degrees off where you're sort of expecting to aim

[ocean furnace]

Or better question would be...Do you have any idea whether we'll get a save-breaking patch anytime soon? 😄

[frozen lava]

Yeah it's insanely annoying and has actually put me in bad spots multiple time by now

[trim raptor]

Why would you want that?

Question about Purifying Tablets in a bucket.

1 tablet purifies 1L of water. If you have a bucket of tainted water, you have to use Purifying Tablets 10 times.

This is simple and easy to understand, but when the purifying tablet is used only once in a bucket of tainted water, wouldn't the clean water gets re-tainted in the bucket?

You have to use the tablets in succession, right?

Or does it use up 10 tablets altogether in one go?

[uncut fable]

I mean as is, we don't have momentum with towing. The tow strap method. that is what is being used in game generally requires somebody in the car being towed to hit the brakes, otherwise if you stop the other car, it's going to slam into

[ionic schooner]

It does not use 10 tablets in one go.

[uncut fable]

following up on this. one thing i noticed is that there seems to be a bit of a tree. researching some of the base items give recipes for melee weapons using that base item plus, like the can reinforced, and then making and researching that gives a recipe for a higher tier upgraded weapon.

i REALLY like that. very cool.

I will also add, I don't have specifics, but it seems like SOME things that can be researched have the flag saying so in the base item description without actually right clicking it to see the light bulb. But some don't. And it seems like it also matters whether or not the object is in your personal inventory or a container, if it shows that tool tip or shows a light bulb on right click. somethings will show a light bulb on right click when they're in a container and you can't actually research them, some won't until it's in your inventory. I'll try and keep track a bit better next time of which was which.

[trim raptor]

I can't find a purifying tablet in my playthrough, I wondered how does a purifying tablet work in a bucket. May I ask if you can help explain the process?

[ionic schooner]

Using it in a full bucket isn't a great idea, it will only purify 1L and the result is still tainted. If you have 10 tablets you should be able to purify it

[trim raptor]

If the tablet doesn't use all 10 tablets in one go, how does it purify the bucket if I can't put 1 tablet one-by-one into the bucket, knowing it will just retaint the water?

I really wish I can find a purifying tablet somewhere... I wanted to give this a try.

[bold flare]

Crafting menu > Recipe> Craft all

will consume as many tablets as it needs

[trim raptor]

Is that how you use it? I see.

Isn't that the same as using the required 10 tablets in 1 go?

🤔

[frozen lava]

I feel like the crafting window should really tell us wether it is talking about 4 items or 4 units of one item as that can be pretty confusing IMO

[flat venture]

You seemingly cannot destroy nor disassemble these log gates

LOL you can see the destroyed wall that I hit, thinking I was hitting the gate

[regal fractal]

Fairly certain they can burn.

[flat venture]

In that case that would be the only way to get rid of them

[regal fractal]

Does anyone know if you have to water crops when snow's on the ground?

[bronze pawn]

anyone from the indie stoners team? is it too early to ask for B42 multiplayer considering that it was mentioned it was being kept away from release so bug reports wouldn't mix and accumulate or we will see multiplayer after B42 is considered feature complete?

[vivid fog]

Be patient, man

[fossil parrot]

so i keep sniping windows that are 3 to four blocks away from me sometimes by fighting with a zombie in their general direction, surely a bug

i am using the crowbar btw

one of the new skins

[ashen vapor]

@ionic schooner can u guys please add a feature that saves every inventory container’s scroll or scrolling, because i don’t know if its only me or not but its really annoying that when u scroll through your backpack it also scrolls through your main inventory so it makes u to scroll up and down every time u scroll in one if your inventory containers

I think it will be a really cool QOL feature if u guys add it

[flat venture]

Bro is straight up just asking for it 😂

[sweet wraith]

Soon

[agile flax]

Soon™

[round copper]

Fart

[vivid fog]

Fr

[agile flax]

For

[carmine spoke]

Indie stoners lmao

What a name

Either medieval executioners or way more chill, no in-between

[fickle otter]

The former feels likely most accurate 😂

[fierce spoke]

B42 is atleast 4 months away and at most a year away mp wont be until b42 is in its final stages

We’re getting raccoons before mp so just wait until raccoons release

and we still haven’t gotten bow n arrows which is also a major feature of b42

[worldly patio]

waiter waiter moer patchnotes!!!!!!!

[wanton scarab]

What is your pfp bro 😭

Is that fucking anton with a gauntlet

[fierce spoke]

only person in the universe to match my freak

[ebon crow]

my homie found something

[supple flax]

woah

[keen lintel]

👁️

[ebon crow]

damm 2fa and google auth, Let them cook 🤌

[grave stump]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[vivid fog]

How was this found

[ebon crow]

I dont know cuz my friend found it

[wanton kindle]

Still having black screens

[vivid fog]

Fair enough

[frozen lava]

Type -debug in the launch options in steam

[ebon crow]

bro, even debug cant access to mp b42

It was discovered when the unstable b42 was first released

I decided to leak cuz Im bored

[frozen lava]

Ah, I thought you were referring to the different home screen

I guess they just forgor to remove the mp option from debug

[vivid fog]

Man

[green sage]

Really hoping for the infinite chicken dupe to be patched next patch :prayge:

[agile flax]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-running-away-running-chicken-attack-gif-21856545

[neat lynx]

Oh yeah I realized that raccoons are finally in

[neat lynx]

We did

I was in the debug mode when I saw in the animals tab, there it was, the raccoons

[bold flare]

You can only spawn them via debug but they are not in the game yet

[rough smelt]

The UI code for those changes is in the game right now, so they either modded it in or edited vanilla files directly so that it'd show up

The Google auth & two factor thing was discoverable based on the code in the first unstable release. Nice for seeing what's potentially coming, but wise to keep expectations in check bc we don't know what will change between now and b42 mp

(also, link to when I pointed this out so I can look cool 😇: #general_chat message)

[ionic schooner]

Please report on the forums with your pc specs

[trim raptor]

File it as a feature suggestion on the forums. They keep track of them there.

[regal fractal]

It came up a lomng time ago, but I can now confirm that animals die in winter if you don't give them enclosed space to sleep in.

[wanton kindle]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1340326521247891467

[ashen vapor]

Yep just did

[grave stump]

FYI for people butchering for meat, the meat hook seems to give less meat than butchering on the ground depending on the animal, for example this is the exact same cow butchered on the ground and on the hook in two copies of one save:

obviously on the ground gives no leather or blood though

[hot harbor]

Any clues as why this is happening?

[rocky fossil]

is that your character the invisible shadow lol

[hot harbor]

yep

[rocky fossil]

lol wth

[hot harbor]

fixed it anyways

f3 in debug despawns all models or something like that

[jagged mulch]

Can Raccoons be spawned naturally if i'm playing with debug? I saw a raccoon running around on the street yesterday. He has black and grey stripe pattern

[wanton scarab]

They fixed repairing correct? I could’ve sworn I saw it in the patch notes somewhere

[crimson gust]

Could VHS caps be removed post tv shutdown?

[bold flare]

Any mods enabled?

[jagged mulch]

of course not. I mean there's some mods are enabled but as a modder, I'm sure I don't use any animal related mod. I couldn't capture any 3D model of the raccoon because he was too fast but I recorded the coordination of animal spawning zone.

[bold flare]

Well it would be mods. We didn't release any patches for raccoons.

[jagged mulch]

tbh I use only vehicle mods and mods which I made myself but if you say so.. I will check that place later with Vanilla. 😉 thanks for reply

[jagged mulch]

my bad, one visual mod was enabled without knowing. and it addes raccoon even it says its visual mod. D:
I just searched all my workshop folder and figured it out. didn't test yet but I'm sure that the mod added raccoon.

[trim raptor]

This is why I don't trust mods.

[uncut fable]

I'll admit, if I made mods, I would absolutely throw an Easter egg like random raccoons

[frozen lava]

Do VHS ans CD's have a cooldown now too?

[grave stump]

I hope the next patch fixes oats and flour being used entirely, didn't realize it applied to oats and lost the whole can on one bowl lmao

[elfin tide]

Also stone axe doesn't lose conditions chopping trees, it's unbreakable

[wary surge]

Is there any more animals to be added other than raccoons

[fallow fossil]

it's not confirmed, but we'll probably get dogs and horses

[grave stump]

Horses feel obvious with there being a horse racing track with stalls etc

and a 'horse trailer'

[regal fractal]

Has anyone else had an issue with double wide gates disappearing as soon as they're built?

[bold flare]

modded or unmodded game

[regal fractal]

Modded, but nothing touching building options.

[rocky fossil]

lol

[bold flare]

does this happen without any mods at all?

[regal fractal]

I was unable to replicate it without mods, but it seems to be happening only in one very specific circumstance with mods, and I can't replicate that exactly in a non-modded (or in a new modded playthrough) playthrough. I have no trouble building the gates in other locations.

Just occurred to me, if maybe the car was interfering with it somehow.

[bold flare]

in this case you can ask for help in #mod_support

[crimson gust]

Any possibility of graphical / mesh updates + firearms in the future? ❤️

[grave stump]

This has happened to me without mods, only once. I fixed it by builidng the gate facing it from teh side the doors don't open on

And make sure there is nothing in the way of the swinging arc of the doors

[bold flare]

was the save created before or after the patch

[grave stump]

It was definitely before sorry

quite an old one and hasn't happened in a new game since the patch

[bold flare]

if it happens in a new save, could you check how many resources you had before building it and if running away and back makes them reappear

[grave stump]

Ok will do! Also, on a somewhat related note I had a zombie destroy one half of a wooden gate and it dropped more resources than the gate even costs to build

[grave stump]

Is there any reason my cows wouldn't be making dung? Its been 13 days in a 63 tile zone

not stressed and fed/watered

[fallow fossil]

constipation

[elfin tide]

Happens also to me (new save from last patch and no mods).

Resources used (and lost)but no double gate. Also tried to go away doing a little trip with a vehicle and then close and restart game but the gate does not show.

[elfin tide]

Tomorrow I'll try to rebuilt the gate staying on the other side, as suggested

[uncut fable]

have not tried it in the newest patch with the new save that I started up with it just yet, but I did notice where the patch nodes had mentioned not having enough resources, and I had more resources than it was calling for for every one of them when it was happening to me. was also in an odd spot though, was trying to build it in the opening where I had taken down two metal fences,

planning on doing the same project on my new save tomorrow. fingers crossed.

cuz man... That school in rosewood, perfect place to raise cows.

[jagged mulch]

I was really disappointed from that lol hope they just release another independent mod when try to add a feature compeletely different.

[trim raptor]

No way they are going to do such a thing. It's either "put all ideas into this one mod" or "don't even try separating it."

[grave stump]

Make sure you stand on the opposite side it opens from and that there is nothing in the way of the opening arc. I feel like it checks the space in front of the door and if anything is there it doesn’t build

[wanton scarab]

Can they add watermelon helmets as armor pls

[grave stump]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-melon-melon-cat-melon-hat-gif-21923715

[regal fractal]

You know, I think I saw that before on a MP server in B41. I'll give it a shot.

[elfin tide]

Yes, double gate constructed staying on the other side (north of gate, in south always lost resources without building it). Thanks very much! 💪

[ruby elbow]

Couple of things: make is so you can eat,drink,smoke and open Doors etc. I would love to see an alternative to getting skills up. Its very tiresome to collect books and read them and so on. Make it so you gain level by investing time in the craft.

[fickle otter]

I like the way the knowledge based xp boost system works. There are just too many skills with too many volumes each. 3 books per skill would probably suffice, and some consolidation of the skill list would certainly be welcome

[grave stump]

Awesome!

[uncut fable]

The new research mode is very much intended to be this I believe.

[crimson gust]

He probably means xp amount

Items that you can research require mid-high levels of the appropriate skill anyhow.

[low ore]

so is the hard capp of 100kg removed or is it still there ?

[bright trail]

You literally do

[bright trail]

No?

If you have like a minimum of level 3 in short blunt, you’re bound to be able to research a handful of items off rip

[rocky fossil]

best base ever , whoever gave us stairs there

[ruby elbow]

Yes but all the reading and watching tv for leveling is not good

[bright trail]

why not

Letting people level up like crazy isnt what the devs want

you need to put effort into it, and they know how hard that can be

hence why skillbooks and the skill vhs exist

[ruby elbow]

It quickly turns the game into a book and vhs Hunt and "i must watch tv or im gonna lose some leveling". Recipe books and so on is okay

[bright trail]

You dont really need it

and if your sole goal in the game is to just hunt books/vhs you might need to just reconfigure how you play

you can also forage books rarely in wilderness as well

[crimson gust]

Vhs are useless

Capped at 3 and for most of them you already maxxed out by week 1 end.

[bright trail]

Getting to Level 3 early game in aiming, carpentry, tailoring, mechanics, or metalworking doesnt make VHS useless

They literally made it so being Level 3 in alot of skills opens up lots of new pathways

you need about 1-3 levels of tailoring to make a scrap metal armor set

level 3 carpentry to essentially start living properly in the wilderness with rain collectors, butter churns, hooks, etc.

mechanics level 3 allows you to do 3/4 of all vehicle functions without the possibility of anything breaking

calling them useless is foolish

[crimson gust]

Police VHS only spawns once per world gen as per wiki.

The only 'common' aim vhs gives roughly 12 xp so idk how you got 75 -> 150 -> 300 out of it

[bright trail]

Ok bro but that still doesnt single out the rest of the items I listed

calling vhs useless is a foolish statement

[crimson gust]

Carpentry: life and living; cooking: life and living; foraging: life and living; trapping: life and living.

What I'm saying is, by the time you have enough vhs of a certain type to level you up towards the point you want the skill cap makes it so you don't actually benefit from it as much as you should / would've.

[bright trail]

no bro you didnt say that shit

you just called it useless

[crimson gust]

.

Anyhow, appreciate your input. :>

There's few VHS that are truly worth it, like Carzone's.

[uncut fable]

bunch of wood products you can research at carpentry zero

[wanton scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-yakuza-tole-tole-mei-mei-tole-tole-cat-gif-13267161800197670066

[grave stump]

We need cats and watermelon helmets

[wary surge]

Exactly

[agile flax]

Xdn't

[wary surge]

Final boss of project zomboid

[wanton scarab]

Real

[agile flax]

Real

[finite flax]

Reloading exp gain from lv 5 to lv 6 isn't affected by the skill book exp multiplier

[agile flax]

How blud knows that

[rocky fossil]

we need clunkly metal noises for opening these!

[ashen tusk]

verdadero

[sinful sinew]

different sounds for opening diffrent items

opening kitchen counters and hearing some open and close sounds even on wooden furniture.

[agile flax]

Falso

[ashen tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-light-yagami-l-death-note-death-note-op1-anime-aesthetic-gif-24369695

[agile flax]

Epic

[frozen lava]

I'd honestly rather have actual shelves

[rocky fossil]

we have shelves

[frozen lava]

I mean actual shelves

the current "shelves" are just fancy container

just give us shelves we can actually place stuff on and the ablity to put items on or below something. So I can store propane tanks under a table and the mask and welding torch on the table

[rocky fossil]

dunno if the engine can do that, thats i dunno how that works lol

[frozen lava]

isn't the engine build by the devs?

[rocky fossil]

dunno

[frozen lava]

well that would honestly be a very weird engine limitation

[fickle otter]

Im sure it could be implemented. You could use a hotkey to change shelf. With the new depth system every sprite has a mesh to define its shape and form in 3D afaik

Id love to see it. Or at least more variations for shelf contents that change based on what's in there

[frozen lava]

exactly, thats why I want actual shelves. Putting a sniper in a shelf just to have books appear is stupid

[fickle otter]

Yeah

[frozen lava]

would also be cool since we could store double the amount of items on one tile by using a table

[rocky fossil]

yeah i dont know i dont know what any of this means, just thought it was cool from other objects having noises it would be neat for other things in the world to have misc noises

[fickle otter]

There was a mod for b41 that let you just slide a mesh up and down along the z axis while placing, which basically gave this functionality, sort of. Bit buggy though obv

[frozen lava]

yeah, shouldn't be too hard either. Like just pop open a shelve record it and add it to the action

[frozen lava]

would be nice to have it just be vanilla with just preset heights

however one thing that is even more infuriating is that my character is literally incapable of putting something back where he got it from

[fickle otter]

"Tidy up miester" is the mod you want for that

[frozen lava]

Like for example I use a propane tank to refill my soldering stick (thats the amazing german translation btw) which I then pick up? For whatever reason, I too hug my gastank when refilling someting. And then he puts it 2 meter to the side

seriously tho, why does he feel the need to give the propane tank a bearhug for refilling?

[fickle otter]

Oh yeah no that mod wont help with that. But yeah like some things really shouldn't have to be picked up for certain actions

[frozen lava]

yeah...

[finite flax]

1 year run

idk what else to do

[rough smelt]

Running for a whole year? Okay Forrest Gump go get it

[fickle otter]

I wonder if with MP we might see grapple tech extended to allow 2 players to carry a body from both ends for less exertion and faster movement. Would be funny trying to coordinate with someone like this

[frozen lava]

Doesn seem worth the implementation honestly

[frozen lava]

Do I just not have the recipes yet or is pottery nearly uselles except for crucibles?

[ornate smelt]

We could be getting a devlog this Thursday

[maiden granite]

pottery looks like will be importatnt for the new system of plumbing, cause there is the possibility of crafting a clay pipe segment, otherwise the pottery at my eyes make pots can be only useful for fermentig and preserving stuffs

[frozen lava]

would be cool to have aggregation pipes.

But pottery would also be great for cooking pots, or like clay bottles or stuff like that

[hot harbor]

anyone have been having issues placing sheet ropes?

[maiden granite]

I agree with u but depend the situation....i mean if u start in the 93 it will be plenty of metal pots, bottles, plus we have the glassmaking, that's why i don't see pottery at least u don't want to have run in the wilderness, or melt all the metal for weapons, metal in general or armors.

[frozen lava]

why not just have both?

it also doesn't matter if there are a lot of metal pots because
A) more options are always nice especially in a world where everyone eats essential items
B) wilderness

[grave stump]

Could also be clay tiles for roofing and floor

and I think it factors into bricks for brick walls?

[maiden granite]

Absolutely agree with u....what i told u was only my point if view.... I'm notbgonna make clay pot if i have metal ones, at least if i don't need metal for other things

[maiden granite]

Yes but this is not like... pottery...i mean i was expecting like clay pots for indoor cultivation

[frozen lava]

imo claypots look nicer than metal ones

[fresh sable]

build 49 when

[ocean furnace]

waiting for new food preservation mechanics and calory balancing

[frozen lava]

They should just let us either smoke meat or just dig like a hole or something for preserving food honestly

[ocean furnace]

b42 did promise more preservation, so here's hoping, I don't like generator meta

[frozen lava]

yeah same, it's the one thing keeping us from real wilderness runs really

It's just weird having a little camp and then a fridge and genny just awkwardly standing around

[ocean furnace]

that or calories being quite weird this build, weight loss is always there...unless you fish those 5 digit calory fishes or churn butter

[frozen lava]

luckily I always disable the weight mechanic. That shit is annoying me enough already irl

[ocean furnace]

farming seems pointless atm, I've observed every damn plot dying fast and randomly

[frozen lava]

I just turned growing speed up to like 7x and put resiliance on high so I have no isses lol. Thank lord for the sandbox options

[finite flax]

this would be easily done by making vinager a craftable item

agriculture also needs a big rebalance, noone is using it

[ocean furnace]

I'll pick earth cellar or something, pickling veggies isn't gonna let me keep my weight 😄

[finite flax]

butter

big fish

rabbits

[frozen lava]

or by letting us store food in brick walls like in medieval times

[finite flax]

plenty of calorie rich food in zomboid

[ocean furnace]

butter requires animals, fishing requires bodies of water....zeds scare animals, stressed cows wreck shit, cities don't really have bodies of water

limits a lot of base locations I like atm

[finite flax]

there are literally lots of ways to get renewable calorie food and you just say "nah, don't like them, make new"

idk, it sounds like a you problem

[ocean furnace]

haha

its a me problem when a million calory cow gives what...2000 calories worth of meat?

instead, I should have a megahorde of cows in a city where every zombie ensures those cows will destroy everything I build

[finite flax]

you only need 1 holstein cow and 1 bull, my character has 100 butter sticks on the shelf

[ocean furnace]

worshipping purely butter sounds lame when a lot of things barely have calories that they realistically should, which is a known problem in the game

[finite flax]

and fishing is broken right now, at lv 4 fishing you can consistently get huge fishes that give 10000+ calories

[ocean furnace]

yeah and my current run isn't anywhere near bodies of water because I'll need to wait for b42 to finish to have the full crafting system and wilderness stuff

but perhaps there's a way to stuff 2 cows somewhere, at least butter doesnt spoil so I don't have to suck off every gas pump over the course of a year

[bright trail]

i cant wait for the new machinery to be added bro

i hope we get bullet presses or like industrial machinery

[frozen lava]

honestly, just get a mod with semi truck and liquid trailer and it's no longer a problem

[uncut fable]

I thought from patch notes that the whole can't shoot zombies that are crawling on the ground with a shotgun thing got fixed. No?

[uncut fable]

milk truck? milk truck!

[fickle otter]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-fail-racoon-jump-gif-24008989

[frozen lava]

btw, anyone else think it's weird that we have crucibles but no metal liquid?

[sinful sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-stealing-gif-19084597

[finite flax]

raccoons when?

[sinful sinew]

real life spiffos

[fallow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/driving-raccoon-gif-20612548

[whole kettle]

Cool

[limber oasis]

When are we getting racoons

And frogs

[maiden granite]

So this week........new patch and thursdoid...or only patch?

[ruby elbow]

We get nothing. No communication, no nothing

[finite flax]

TIS must oficially cancel thurstoids by now, tbh. They haven't followed the tradition for a year.

[fierce spoke]

Guys, how crowded is amz steel place? The one in-between Echo Creek and Ekron

I don't really trust abandoned places in this game anymore

[rocky fossil]

Its not bad

[bright trail]

Thursdoids only occur between stable and unstable of the next update

between build 41 and the release of Build 42 unstable

[regal fractal]

So I'm really confused, if Rye is supposed to be planted in October and has a 240 day grow period, then why is it all destroyed after the first snowfall?

[finite flax]

because Agriculture is a terribly balanced feature

thats why

[ruby elbow]

So now its only patches if anything?

[bright trail]

yes

[ruby elbow]

Okay nice. Lets hope for some progress this coming week

[finite flax]

Raccoons, bullet crafting, major rebalances and lots of other recipes

that and a final decision about the shooting system

stable version and mp will be launched at the end of the year

[elder locust]

Does anyone know when we will have multiplayer in the 42nd build?

👉 👈

[vivid fog]

Someday

Before build 43

[elder locust]

No kidding

(

[finite flax]

don't even bother, TIS never tell release dates and their simps only give you the same stupid joke

just go make something else and come back next year, maybe

[elder locust]

Some tester came to my voice chat and leaked information, like the multiplayer will be ready by the end of February.

[vivid fog]

That’s interesting

Any proof?

[finite flax]

it is already end of February

I don't think it is going to be at the end of Feb.

[finite flax]

and no, testers cannot divulge info, even less about release dates

So, you are lying or someone lied to you

[elder locust]

thanks for the information

[elder locust]

no

[finite flax]

I just can tell you this for certain

MP release is reaaaally far from today

the shooting system needs another huge overhaul

there are lots of recipes that are not yet added

[rocky fossil]

unless its stated in a blog by tis i would just tell yourself their estimates from the community

[finite flax]

and plenty of bugs that can kill a run out of nowhere

Oh, and agriculture needs a big rebalance, noone is using it. The specific crop cycles are too much to keep track and are very restrictive (specially because just about 4 to 5 types of crops are useful), the plants give really low calories and not that much nutrition

and the crops can randomly die if you are not taking care of them constantly

[elder locust]

What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

A lot of people are doing this, and it's interesting.

[ashen tusk]

Personally me ill be waiting patiently for the devs to do their thing and appreciate what theyve delivered thus far

[hot harbor]

does anyone know why i can't disassemble items to get their heads?

[fresh sable]

Is it really such a big deal if i enable farming allowed on more than the ground level

[candid halo]

medium implement requires a stone hammer rn

this is because the hammer can be used in both slots to both dismantle and/or be used for dismantling

[grave stump]

Patch this week? What do we think?

[hot harbor]

thanks love you

[uncut fable]

I'm asking because my game has been experiencing a few different, weird glitches, and I was making sure if it wasn't fixed for shotguns, or if it was just me.

[uncut fable]

metal liquid?

[uncut fable]

every time somebody asks, they tack an extra day onto the release schedule

[bright trail]

wont testers get sued if they do that

[round copper]

Fart 2

[buoyant onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/no-shit-clark-griswold-christmas-vacation-really-no-way-gif-19529844

[covert moth]

check check

[frozen lava]

So end of next year? Got it

/s

[crimson gust]

3 days

[unique tree]

what are we hoping for ?

MP is out of the question, so content or bug fixes ? maybe a blog ?!

[crimson gust]

hog.

https://tenor.com/view/boar-run-gif-25353107

[willow inlet]

@peak halo please support low pc end like 41 version

[grave stump]

I like that bet, Thursday?

[strong bay]

Bro just upgrade your pc atp

I can run the game BETTER on B42 with pretty bad specs

[fierce spoke]

B42 is literally better optimized than B41, just delete the mods

[frozen lava]

Personally bees and/or candles

[frozen lava]

What are your specs?

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/we're-getting-there-james-engvid-almost-there-it's-coming-along-gif-8672122141120610697

[strong bay]

GT 010 512 MB VRAM, 256 MB DDR, 32GB HDD, Pentium -1 0.45 Hz

[maiden granite]

As far i remember bees were said not happen....

[maiden granite]

Mostly bug fixing and bows

[finite flax]

didn't TIS confirmed that bows and animations for workstations are going to be delayed into B43?

[rocky python]

ohhh i cannot wait for bows holyfawk

and NPCs are bundled with that? yes please

[desert turret]

Not b43, just other b42 updates

[frozen lava]

Whut... why? They are so simple and we coule make beewax candles

[frozen lava]

Is that a joke?

[rocky python]

Only 32GB? There should be less than 10GB with windows and zomboid installed lmao

[quick steeple]

11 days with no patchnotes... it hurts my mental state

[frozen lava]

You find that bad? Look at his ram

He probably either has absoloutely no idea what he is talking about or is just straight up trolling

[crimson gust]

32gb is default for 2025

[frozen lava]

He's talking about harddrive not ram...

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25803683

[frozen lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809520679543767100/913106815141703761/image0-31.gif

[maiden granite]

Nope they just said probably at the end of the 42 or during the stable cause they have a lot of work to do

[maiden granite]

I know i was also hoping for the same but in a answer they said no, there are other ways to make candles.

[frozen lava]

True, at least they should improve candles tho. They ducking suck currently

[maiden granite]

It's planned to be placed and to turn on/off

[frozen lava]

Especially since candles are the perfect primitive light source

[maiden granite]

Candles and lanterns

[frozen lava]

What about burn time?

[frozen lava]

Yeah but lanterns are probably harder to refill

[maiden granite]

I think it's planned also i don't think we will have infinite candles

[frozen lava]

They should be craftable tho IMO

[maiden granite]

Sure they will be

[frozen lava]

They are the perfect reliable and moody light source.

Could even be blown out by wind or sprinting

[maiden granite]

About being blow out i will not trust it too much alsa the campfire still on even with the mega storms

[frozen lava]

Could be implemented for both

Would validate building the new fire places

[grave stump]

Beekeeping would be cool, esp. given all the flowers they added haha

[maiden granite]

I hope they will do it definitely

[strong bay]

I can't believe some of you actually thought I was being serious

Shame on you who did

[frozen lava]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[finite flax]

ok, I'm excited about bows now

[somber python]

to heck with bows tbh

i want to craft crossbows

[frozen lava]

crowbows are terrible

[trim raptor]

The only animal in the game that's immortal is the frog.

[frozen lava]

they take faaaaaaaaaaaaaar to long to reload

[somber python]

what, you want to use primitive weaponry to fight zombs? I'd just use the crossbow for hunting

Likely going to be more precise and hit harder

[frozen lava]

eh, debatable

[somber python]

although the idea of a slow-firing but semi-automatic crossbow seems plausible enough

something with a small magazine with bolts

This is post-apocalyptic setting in the context of ingame knox county, so not everything needs to be super official

i like to imagine that some ranged weapons would have improvised, more exotic variants too, similar to melee currently

Things we 100% need --> craftable bows, crossbows, ideally some more improvised variants too, to spice it up
Things that would be cool to have aswell --> craftable makeshift firearms and ammunition

[wild oxide]

Reverse engineering the games Java code, or using a steam protocol link to try and bypass the join panel entirely

I tried using the local host server in the game directory but it crashes and stops the server if I attempt to run it

There's probably a kill switch in the Java code

[grave stump]

Me too and I can't see it not being in 42, it would be similar to the guns process just with a slower projectile with more drop and new animations. I think they just want to absolutely nail the firearms physics and hit system before layering bows in

[unique tree]

no no, they are at the back of the list

but not 43

bows will use the new aiming which needs another update pass cauz it's broken atm

only way you can fire at zombies on the ground at point-black is if you have a revolver

fire, reload, fire

[grave stump]

My guess is a patch tomorrow or weds, they seem to have been earlier in the week the last few times I think because if anything major goes wrong (like the 'nan' calories bug last time) there is some time to try and fix it before the weekend when lots of people play and test

[unique tree]

when reloading the animation points the gun at the ground to load a bullet in the chamber, that's a short break time in the animation where you can shoot

so it's basically it's working as intended if you think of this by-pass solution otherwise no

[rocky fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/itch-crackhead-drugs-drugaddict-addict-gif-11128316954240258813

[unique tree]

only revolvers seem to do the trick atm, rest are bugged in my experience

[unique tree]

bless your heart if bows are brought in this new update

[sinful sinew]

could be expecting our next patch for build 42

[unique tree]

we are expecting the next patch, there is no other possibility from my point

[maiden granite]

i think TIS will drop, at least, two update/fixing per month

[grave stump]

As in imminently? Do you know something? haha

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-know-franky-four-fingers-snatch-what-is-it-that-you-know-what-knowledge-do-you-have-gif-21722460

[unique tree]

a tester dropped in his chat revealing b44

but only if you decipher the enigma code you will see it now

[grave stump]

4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42

[unique tree]

you need an enigma machine, good luck

because it's analogous electrical encrypted 😉

[fallow fossil]

enigma ligma

[rocky fossil]

lol

i love snatch

[grave stump]

Right haha

[rocky fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/snatch-tyrone-its-too-tight-gif-14393095

[flat venture]

Is there a way in debug mode to see which "Research craft" unlocks which recipe?

[vivid fog]

Very interesting, have you found anything else like that?

[grave stump]

I just found an ALICE pack and also found a gold spoon today so I assume a save breaking patch will release any minute now lol

[sinful sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-murderer-inefficient-weapon-spoon-gif-4927357

spoon as a weapon in PZ

[rocky fossil]

lmao wheres my golden spork

[wild oxide]

I know that there will be a faction war system in 42 mp

[vivid fog]

That does sound like quite the find

[vivid fog]

Can you send proof in DMs

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-centipede-insect-family-guy-gif-17301543

bro counted every molecule of water at a glance

[hot harbor]

anyone noticed that if you get a nasty cold and then sleep over it while healing the cough / sneezes remain even with no moodle?

until you quit the game and restart it that is

[daring blade]

Bottom bullet point. Source: https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/05/glowing-onez/

[leaden jay]

2036, we all here gonna have kids and wife’s at this time

[vivid fog]

That’s sick, thank you!

[daring blade]

❤️

[rocky fossil]

most of us are already that old

[leaden jay]

[leaden jay]

Instead of saying "when NPCs," we'll say "when the DLC for Great Britain."

[fickle otter]

Who tf is gonna "accept war" unless part of a private RP server. Wouldnt something retaliation based work better like in phantom pain? Like, instead of giving us a limited number of "no"s, facilitate retaliation attacks. That way if you're gonna raid someone you're taking a big risk cause the game will basically help the victim to retaliate. We're also gonna need ways of perfectly securing a small amount of stuff from raiders using like, safes and secret compartments. PvP raids and theft dont hurt so much when you can squirrel away your most valuable items

[fallow fossil]

what happened to your Veteran status?

[rocky fossil]

lol , someone thinks theyre being funny

i wanna be a plunger to be like you guys !!

https://tenor.com/view/rollin-homies-clueless-homie-brittany-murphy-gif-5654536

[fallow fossil]

lol

[uncut fable]

i mean, my oldest gets his driver's license in 4 months so ...

[ruby elbow]

Try grand kids

[leaden jay]

[hollow osprey]

AR-style crossbows do exist with usually a magazine of 10 bolts, but as far as I remember they are only really used by special forces for extra silent takedowns

So could be very rare military loot

[somber python]

nah i mean something improvised, but would probably have a really high skill requirement

[unborn creek]

Found a weird bug that was causing me to be unable to interact with my inventory (including moving things out of it) and replicated it like 3 times, but I couldn't figure out how I was doing it and then I couldn't reproduce it again. So weird

[grave stump]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

Patch today?

[ionic schooner]

Nah.

[grave stump]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wow-you-dont-say-michael-office-wow-michael-scott-gif-11124235989547302113

There goes my money in the patch betting pool 😛

[timber nimbus]

I am looking foward to when the crafting trees get expanded. I hope we will start to see indications of that next month.

[bright trail]

dude this game feels like stardew valley now im so happy

[somber python]

same. And i do hope existing newer parts of it get new stuff too, like more improvised weaponry

the amount isnt bad now but theres some stuff i feel should be there but isnt

[bright trail]

I really hope the industrial machinery gets added as well

[timber nimbus]

They are adding specific items if there is enough demand. I do find the discussion over loot pools interesting.

[bright trail]

I remember in one of the Thursdoids they were testing out UIs for beverage consolidation

it was really cool

[somber python]

its just, the flexibility of crafting that i want to be really good is all. i.e. we have a nut & bolt metal bat improvised weapon recipe but we cant do the same for a wooden baseball bat??? or a carved bat??? What about wrapping these in barbed wire? etc

i am 110% sure PZ doesnt allow that at the moment

[grave stump]

Yeah the barbed wire almost seems like an inside joke lol, wrapping hockey sticks and brooms in barbed wire but not bats haha

[somber python]

its just really weird and i feel it makes no sense not to have it in

[somber python]

especially when you already have this

Probably if you took every possible improvised weapon variation you could realistically make and then try to implement every single one, it'd take a considerable amount of time, making individual models for it etc, though i do hope that they eventually want to expand improvisation/maintenance crafting much more

Still a massive improvement currently compared to the previous build but there's still a lot of room for additions to complete the variety

[trim raptor]

180 days of waiting for the farm crops to grow mature is not what I had in mind when Stardew Valley gets mentioned.

[trim raptor]

though i do hope that they eventually want to expand improvisation/maintenance crafting much more

Isn't this what they are going for?

[wary surge]

I hope they add some sort of thing like the plumbing mod to vanilla zomboid

Like setting up pipes for plumbing and irrigation and things

[somber python]

Not necessarily.They will be expanding crafting for sure, but i am uncertain whether they will make any more significant additions to improvised weaponry crafting

In their eyes the current crafting for weapons could be seen as 'good' and they could very well decide to not add anything new to it for quite a while, but i hope i'm wrong

im not a member of their dev team so all this is just speculation

truth is, they added a LOT already

[bright trail]

It got cut down to around 2 months ish with fertilizer

[trim raptor]

6 months -> 2 months sounds enticing.

[bright trail]

better than nothing tbh @trim raptor

they should definitely add irrigation machinery at some point, dont you agrer @trim raptor

[trim raptor]

Build 43 when NPCs are available and can drive tractors / machinery around farmlands.

Or at least, that's my hopes and dreams.

[hollow osprey]

I do remember some talk about plumbing and proper pipes, so a sprinkler of some sort doesnt sound too far fetched

i just hope there's some "low tech" options â la gravity fed storage tanks

[bright trail]

same

[frozen lava]

there are even already clay pipe segments

I think a simple gravity fed interragation system with just pipes and pipes with holes would be a simple and easy to build solution

[frozen lava]

not really, in fact crossbows have far less draw weight than a warbow for example. The reason they were so good was because (like guns) anyone could use them and you wouldn't need to spend a decade training a bowman from his kid years. However look at guns and you'll realize that this advantage barely exists in game

so I just googled and the draw weight is actually stronger apparently. However medieval crossbows take a hilariously long time to reload so it's kind of a either hit or die if you are fighting a zombie. Tho I could see it beeing used for hunting

[rocky fossil]

finally we can play pipe dream

[frozen lava]

However, a warbow is apparently actually more precise if used by a professional. Additional to beeing quicker to reload of course. Tho I doubt youd use a friggin warbow against zombies

[somber python]

i doubt youd use anything of the sort against zombies

theyre too plentiful to make this viable

that being said yes crossbows do have typically stronger draw weight

[frozen lava]

Bows could absoloutely work

[somber python]

unless its a 1shot i dont see that being worth it

and arrows are likely going to have their own durability if not get consumed entirely upon shooting

[frozen lava]

It should absoloutely be a oneshot, arrows cause immense damage

[frozen lava]

durability maybe but not consumed. Those are zombies and not medieval plate armour

You could easily clear out stuff like gas stations with them

[somber python]

i'm not referring to the toughness of the target, i am referring to the reality that neither of us know how they will want to design this mechanics-wise

[frozen lava]

And thats not even considering npc's in a couple decades

[somber python]

if it doesnt 1 shot / if arrows get consumed (without having any durability stat on their own) its just not worth using against zombies

[frozen lava]

true, but seeing how they usually lean (almost ridicolously) towards realism I doubt they'd be consumed

[frozen lava]

depends on how easy arrows are to make

remember that you'd just use a short bow, this is pretty leightweight

It could also just be a emergency weapon or something

historically they carried around 72 arrows and considering the unrealistic carrying capacity in this game you could maybe carry 100-130 which is far more than enough to clear an area

[somber python]

would be funny if we could create improvised incendiary / explosive arrows

[frozen lava]

archery is a pretty broad thematic with quite a lot of use. You could even use burning arrows or similar

[somber python]

shitty ballistics but lots of damage

[frozen lava]

incendiary would make sense but explosives would never ever work

[somber python]

debatable

attach a pipebomb at the tip

i never said it'd have to explode on impact

[frozen lava]

brotha you know how much that would f with the arrow

[somber python]

yes,

[frozen lava]

that thing would just fall to your foot immediatly

[frozen lava]

if by shitty ballistics you mean flying for a nanosecond and impacting the ground half a meter infront of you then yes

by that point you might aswell just throw it

[somber python]

https://tenor.com/view/spunch-bob-bobbie-unfathomable-torment-oh-hell-nah-2025kids-be-like-gif-23000365

[frozen lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570415399968178196/1307833294540247060/boombird.gif

[somber python]

Firecracker arrows seem a bit more plausible

as an auditory distraction

[frozen lava]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vVCEhbpIJ-U?si=afGTs0WoOXkRHzg9

This shows how terrible it would work

[frozen lava]

yeah that'd work

I think arrows would actually be easy as hell, take a blade, a stick and feathers or something and you got an arrow

You could stick a lot of stuff to them as long as it's small and rather light

[somber python]

theoretically couldnt you also just sharpen a small stick and attach some fins (in this case feathers) at the bottom
basically just skip the blade part and carve the tip of the stick to serve as a substitute for that

[frozen lava]

pretty much

As long as you're fighting zombies you could use nearly anything. Animals, now thats where that would become a problem

or humans, or military/police zombies

theres also a ton of stuff you could use for fletching, basically any feather, vines, plastic you could probably even use very thin wood

[maiden granite]

also i hope one day we will have pots, pans saucepans on the fire/stoves

when we cooking

[frozen lava]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Archery/comments/2lj6so/alternate_materials_for_fletchings_what_else_can/

Here's even a reddit thread aboutr possible fletching materials

[frozen lava]

Actually, now that I think about it. I think just slapping a grenade into a crossbow and using it like a sling could work

Basically like a PIAT from wish

[uncut fable]

to be fair, the nuts and bolts to stud the bat won't work as well on wood due to the flex, hence nails being the better option.

[frozen lava]

eh, crowbars can also break so we really shouldn't take realism that serious

[uncut fable]

And or fire harden it, since we already have fire hardened Spears

[uncut fable]

I'm missing something, do crowbars not break in 42? could have sworn they do

[frozen lava]

they do, thats my point

[uncut fable]

okay. I take it you haven't used many crowbars? I've absolutely bent one opening a crate before, and you use one as a blunt object, it's absolutely going to bend and eventually break from stress fractures

[frozen lava]

bro what kinda wish ahhh crowbar did you use?

besides, you may bend it a little but no way in hell you'll break it.

I really have no idea what kinda golden crowbar you are using

[uncut fable]

a regular one? they're made from mild steel, not hardened. they're made to flex and bend rather than snap, but if they get bent back and forth in the same area repeatedly, youll get stress fractures ( think bending a paper clip back and forth until it snaps into two, but bigger) and smashing the haft against skulls is gonna deform the steel and be basically like bending it repeatedly in the same area.

[rocky fossil]

more importantly what the hell were they opening ? lol

[frozen lava]

fr lmao, how did his hand not break from that? Like did he use a sledgehammer?

[frozen lava]

except that the damaged tissue/bone of a zombie shouldn't cause enough damage to break it, Maybe bend it a bit or scratch it sure but no way that thing gets broken

[uncut fable]

wooden crate around a steel framework that was bolted together. didn't know at the time that I had gotten the edge of the crowbar past the wood and into a gap in the steel frame.

and i can pull a good 400 foot pounds of torque

at least, i could 20 years ago

[uncut fable]

A. skulls are harder than you think,
B. slow wearing over time. lots of internal microcrystalline fractures that build up.

[frozen lava]

you mean like this? This aint broken

I love how when googling about a crowbar breaking 90% of results are project zomboid lmfao

[uncut fable]

yes, that's been bent and then snapped at the flex point of the bend.

how is that not broken?

[rocky fossil]

lmao

i honestly dont think i have ever had one break in pz maybe 2 times , usually i usse something else and leave that for last or something

my wrench is the best idc lol

[trim flame]

i always spam crowbars when i find them cause theyre great for leveling up maintaince

[fickle otter]

I mean, you could still use it as a weapon but you aint gonna be prying shit, thays for sure

[trim flame]

hard to tell without references but that seems like a small crowbar
the two handed one we have in pz would take alot more force to get that kind of failure, such that id struggle to see a human being able to do it without some funny leveraging

[uncut fable]

I mean, I could see the potential where when one breaks it turns into a one-handed blunt called broken crowbar.

[frozen lava]

It' literally perfectly useable tf

Stop beeing a princess this is a apocolypse

You don't just go "oh well" and throw away your crowbay because a small piece broke off that you don't even use anyway

[rocky fossil]

just add some clitter to it

[frozen lava]

Thats my point

We aren't opening chests. It does somewhat make sense that I'd break from that eventually due to leverage but we are just smacking things we aren't opening chests with it

[uncut fable]

there's a couple of bends before the break, so you've lost the pointed head. that's going to be the biggest Force multiplier on that end, and changed the weight of the whole thing. It's not going to be as effective of a weapon. also, what if that snap was closer to the middle?

honestly a small snap like that would probably be represented by the condition having gone down below half and it doing less damage.

[frozen lava]

Again, you are not using any kind of leverage or torque. You are not using nearly ad much force as you would while using a crowbar normally

[uncut fable]

If you're swinging it and using it as a melee weapon, you're using MORE force than you would when using a crowbar normally.

[frozen lava]

Tf do you mean?

You are barely using force compared to actually levering something open while potentially even using a hammer

[uncut fable]

Force equals mass times acceleration. You're accelerating it a hell of a lot faster.

In terms of leverage, no, you're not using leverage, but if you're swinging an object and it's misshapen and not a straight cylinder, it swings differently

[frozen lava]

I doubt anyone actually swings that thing at enough of a significant speed to actually destroy it

[uncut fable]

I take it you don't have much experience with actually swinging large heavy objects around? SCA, boffo combat, kendo, basic fencing, anything like that?

[frozen lava]

No I don't. And I can tell you john zomboid doesn't have either

[uncut fable]

whether or not they have experience doing it doesn't matter, we're talking about the physics of the situation.

repeated striking of a metal object causes damage on the inside that will eventually cause it to snap. A long rod is not made to take stress in that direction.

[rocky fossil]

no

[frozen lava]

Okay, I get it. Would it actually snap that fast tho?

[uncut fable]

that said, sca stick jock would be a great "profession" for a mod

[uncut fable]

depends what you mean by that. fast, when I've broken a crowbar in the game, it's probably been several hundred swings.

[frozen lava]

Still seems pretty little honestly

But then again everything just has hilariously little durability. Like axes for example.

At least I can use mods tho so it isn't really an issue

Anyway I gotta sleep now.

Good nigh/day y'all

[uncut fable]

axes, at least in current build, can last almost forever as long as you do regular maintenance and keep them sharp The issue is if you use them once the sharpness is below a certain point without sharpening it, then the condition starts going down more

[flat venture]

I have a bunch of sheep and cows all living together same livestock zone and same barn. It's a rainstorm and all the other animals are fine but this one bull won't stfu or stop breaking my walls. What am I doing wrong?

[uncut fable]

Not positive if this is accurate, but a couple people have suggested that cows don't like being in the same livestock zone with other livestock. adds to their stress. Not sure if that's accurate, but I do know that when I had pigs and cows together, the cows went nucking futz even without zombies or gunfire around them

[fickle otter]

Its ok to forego a little realism for the sake of the game loop.

[flat venture]

I'll give it a shot. The females are all good, no stress. This 1 bull is a pain in my ass.

[rocky fossil]

Lol

Give him sone pets!

[flat venture]

I do that religiously for all of them, he was fine until the storm came then he just starts tearing holes in everything I'm building

[rocky fossil]

Awh hes scared

[flat venture]

I'm building him and his women an entirely separate barn and livestock zone

[grave stump]

I can’t get my cows to poop lmao

I’ve gotten one dung in like 10 days from two cows

This is…. Bullshit

[flat venture]

They do poop slow

It's normal

[grave stump]

They be pooping slow for sure

Apparently irl they poop 10-20 times a day lmao

[flat venture]

Devs tried that

[grave stump]

I like the poop for compost :/

I guess I don’t need that much though, I’m just hoarding haha

[rocky fossil]

lol

[uncut fable]

unless you're running with a mod, poop doesn't rot in compost yet

[sinful sinew]

composting other realistic items people could compost like twigs, sawdust, feces

[grave stump]

Yes it does lol

All types of dung turn into compost after two weeks, it was in patchnotes and works for me every time

as of 42.1.0 - Fixed Dung items not composting in composters.

compost prevents crop health loss if applied at each phase of growth, so I am wanting lots

[trim raptor]

So...........

Will Build 42 or later address hitbox collision issues, such as this?

[timid heath]

I see some people gave rabbits in their fences, how do I catch one, they always run and I can't pick them up before they run

[somber python]

I dont think thats why it isnt available to do in the game, and even if its not as good as on a metal bat it should still be a option. I dont mind sacrificing a bit of durability for extra damage

[thin reef]

is this the longest we’ve been without a patch so far?

nvm not yet

[pallid hatch]

this becomes like that when it hits you?

[grave stump]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gun-kermit-gun-gif-16355306064126846866

[frozen lava]

No, car is better

https://tenor.com/view/deja-vu-anime-car-gif-24099480

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-5132983713244395301

[pallid hatch]

i dont think so..

im pretty sure its next couple of months

[crimson gust]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-true-chadwick-boseman-has-consumed-you-get-this-man-a-shield-vengeance-has-consumed-you-gif-15969134285868372875

[pallid hatch]

🐌

[frozen lava]

Nooooo the snail has found me

[crimson gust]

The snail must scream, but it has no mouth. It curses me vehemently in a myriad of alien tongues known and unknown as it sits in impotent rage, locked away in a cell without a key, for eternity.

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-so-you-have-accepted-the-truth-you-accepted-the-truth-truth-hurts-gif-19475562

[frozen lava]

Oh no, it isn't locked away

It follows and calls "play warthunder" "this video is sponsored by war thunder" "special bonuses for new player"

[crimson gust]

The snail is immortal and omniscient, but not omnipotent. A prison such as this will keep the beast of judgement restrained.

[frozen lava]

I think we are talking about different snails here