Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[lethal wolf]

the worst part is, those bushes and tree saplings keep spawning right next to my roads, so I either clear them or add a lining of sand (gravel requires longer trips now to get) to ensure my car at least won't hit them as they grow

my island road is 2 tiles wide just to ensure car will drive smoothly, so maybe 1 tile extra lining to both sands with nearby sand or something will stop the trees and bushes...

[meager geyser]

I don't think sand stops plant growth

[glacial cape]

Sand is horrible to drive on though & I think stuff can still grow on it and I like the look of a gravel road more than sand sand is kinda ugly it's coarse rough and gets everywhere

[meager geyser]

gravel does

[glacial cape]

I don't think sand is any better than dirt

[lethal wolf]

the thing is I have scavenged all the gravel in nearby areas so I have to go closer to Echo Creek to find more xD

or I could go for the simplest solution, wooden board lining

the trees are infinite across the cosmos in PZ universe, so converting them into "do not fucking grow here" zones

[glacial cape]

I made my path with wood initially to grind carpentry for the bigger crates then overlayed with gravel cause it looks nicer

Shame we can't grind stones into gravel

We need a millstone of some sort

[lethal wolf]

I'm still quite suspicious how I can only get 1 portion of dirt, from dirt...like bruh, I see theres more dirt in the tile, let me dig a hole

[meager geyser]

could be that the dirt below the top layer is harder to dig

[lethal wolf]

wooden board solution would be fancy for roadmaking, as long as I don't ever remove them because of the...shadow realm void holes

but I am extremely interested in making a shadow realm void portal at the March Ridge entrance and see if I can clear the whole area with a single honk

all the zeds pathing towards the car, falling to the void to be banished to deepest layer of hell from whence they came

[glacial cape]

Zombies about to fall into the void and lose everything

I wonder if anyone has tried that

Maybe you can be the first to

[slim merlin]

There are millstones but idk if it’s only for grain and such or if you can grind gravel with it. I’ve never made one

[lethal wolf]

from petty street magicks of colamancy, a route to deepest dark...to condemn the wicked and unholy, to depths of hell and brimstone everlasting, the path of the voidmancer

[glacial cape]

Oh really where is that and what skill level requirements does it have?

[sturdy wren]

LETS FUCKIGN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WE ARE SO BARACK

[slim merlin]

It’s in the build menu. I’ve got the game up lemme look

Need masonry level one

[glacial cape]

Sweet thanks I'm omw back from work so can't check

[glacial cape]

Not bad I might grind for it when I'm back and give it a look

Or just spawn one in debug to check it's recipes

[slim merlin]

I’d do the latter

[glacial cape]

I do kinda wanna do masonry cause stone walls sounds cool but I've heard it's a pain

[slim merlin]

You need a blacksmith anvil for it

[sturdy wren]

where do i view these """patchnotes"""?

[glacial cape]

To grind & level

[glacial cape]

I got you https://pastebin.com/ZbZj8RZV

Note: These are preview patch notes from Drunkonlife's stream & compiled from reddit

[sturdy wren]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[cunning turtle]

We pray for moments like this

[glacial cape]

Me with a nvidia gpu 🙃

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[forest shore]

Holy snapple 487 lines

[glacial cape]

It's quite beefy haven't gotten a proper read of it yet

[slim merlin]

I wish they’d bring back the “this is how you died” stuff during loading screen 😔

[glacial cape]

I want the main menu art it was the only one I liked(and no it's not cause it was supposed AI for why I don't like the loading screens)

[forest shore]

There's a lot of nice fixes - like generators now work properly for basements

[forest shore]

Nah - I want the loading screens back. They removed them in the first hotfix - that's why it's just a black screen.

[slim merlin]

Same. I thought they looks amazing

[forest shore]

Me too.

[sturdy wren]

i dont like the main menu art but i think the loading screens looked amazing

[slim merlin]

I could care less if it’s “you know what” slop

[glacial cape]

Yeah those were cool but I didn't like how hyper realistic they were and kinda goofy with the facial expressions on some of them

[sturdy wren]

but yeah the artistic direction is fucking weird

ps2 graphics game
hyper-realistic main menu and loading screen artworks

[glacial cape]

Felt like they also didn't fit PZ's vibe if they were similar to what the main menu & pz cover art was I'd fuck with them

[slim merlin]

Main menu arts pretty cool. I’ve been playing since the menu was just a city backdrop at Dawn so the main menu art with Kate and Baldspot was pretty nice when it came out

[glacial cape]

Kinda same vibe I have with the noodles I don't mind them but I don't think they scream Project Zomboid to me cause they're kinda goofy & colourful

It's more of an identity issue to me

[slim merlin]

I use a mod to revert them to the old ones cause I’m an old fashioned kinda guy

[glacial cape]

I'm keeping the moodles the same I have bad eyesight and the new ones are more readable

Except the egg idk what they were cooking with that

[slim merlin]

I reverted back to build 41 to play MP with a pal and the moodles are ridiculously small. Was that always a thing or is my UI fucked?

[glacial cape]

UI thing we don't have much of the options to change the scale of the inventory or moodles in b41(I think)

[forest shore]

Always a thing - the UI in B42 is bigger,.

[real fox]

Fighting for my life in b42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiOLda9C67A

[slim merlin]

[cunning turtle]

Luna the youtuber

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[cunning turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991793738584178738/1033050669025861632/attachment-19.gif

[waxen oar]

I think I got some good food for a while

[sturdy sequoia]

jfc how many fishing levels do you have lol

[waxen oar]

Only 3 levels

[sturdy sequoia]

sheesh I gotta try fishing then

[waxen oar]

I think I got very lucky

It almost broke my fishing rode but the fish walked on to shore for me and didn't have to really pull it in at all

Here is my levels atm

[forest shore]

First house I looted of this run

[glacial cape]

I had to clear the military surplus for one of those

[forest shore]

It was a home invasion story I think. Two cop zombies, and this guy. Had a mask and stuff.

[sturdy sequoia]

ohh yeah that does sound pretty lucky

[waxen oar]

wtf I just got another big one

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm just struggling to keep up weight so I either gotta find some animals to milk or get fishing

[sturdy sequoia]

lol maybe you should buy a lottery ticket today

[waxen oar]

let me keep going and see what i get

[sturdy sequoia]

seems like catfish are just OP

is that the lake by rosewood?

[waxen oar]

its the echo creek river

nah my game has to be bugged wtf

i have never been this lucky for fishing

I dont think I will even have the space for them

[gleaming perch]

B43 is tonight

[forest shore]

I love that Shemaghs are in the game now. I wear one irl too

[lethal wolf]

I found one, thought its a ghillie suit head, turns out its very versatile piece of clothing

[forest shore]

How do y'all feel about using the M9 that's given at the beginning of the game? With the new zombie distribution I'm actually kind of leaning towards using it.

[sturdy wren]

How are you supposed to survive in the forest without herbalist

[sturdy wren]

It's temporary, did you read the popup? It literally says it's to test aiming

[unkempt atlas]

Put it in a drawer, save it, find a shotgun, level Aiming to 5, go back and get it.

[sturdy wren]

Also i throw it away immediately because guns are bad

[forest shore]

Idk I love the new aiming system. It's really nice.

[forest shore]

Did you not read what I said. I know it's temporary.

[sturdy wren]

It's hard to aim at low fps

[sturdy wren]

The new zombie distribution isn't temporary though

[sturdy sequoia]

wow okay yeah that's either a bug or the balance for fishing is just fucked now lol

[sturdy sequoia]

I can't wait to try it out, I was hoping to find an aiming book to speed it up but no luck so far, I've only found like aiming 4 or something

[waxen oar]

This was a one day haul, I have never been this lucky with fishing

[vague trench]

fishing master 5000

[cunning turtle]

Flexin

[waxen oar]

Now im gonna die is like a 1 hr and wont even be able to eat the fish

[red hazel]

Short sighted makes aiming worst. Does wearing glasses fix that debuff so we can have "normal aim"?

[hollow mica]

guys did a new patch note just release? I'm lost

[obtuse moon]

Not that I see

[vague trench]

lol me anytime i find a star pillow

[waxen oar]

I wanna find one but no luck yet for that

[hollow mica]

what is this????

[vague trench]

upcoming hotfix it isnt out yet

[glacial cape]

Preview patch notes from drunkonlife's livestream

[hollow mica]

ooooh I see

I was so confused

[glacial cape]

Feels like that when you're a short blunt user :)

[glacial cape]

Sorry I should've put a note down or specified more

[hollow mica]

I'm honestly impressed that you got all of that from a livestream lol

[glacial cape]

I didn't it's from reddit

[forest shore]

The trait description seems to imply glasses do fix aiming

[winter imp]

wait are these patch notes real?

[pine latch]

Oh heck, is that why my grape soda is so filling

[vague trench]

yes

[vague trench]

i need a ingame calendar!!

[true smelt]

Does the scarecrow serve any purpose in the project zomboid?

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/siaymin-siayyeon-gif-23989801

[slim merlin]

Yes

[heavy crown]

Soon, death by tree will become impossible

I can sprint into the woods like god intended

[vague trench]

lol

[velvet egret]

udderly unacceptable. Fix this immediately, devs

[frozen wyvern]

Mooooo

[worthy elbow]

Guys, the new items in build 42 have a Debug description, is there a way to remove this?

[vague trench]

those?

[worthy elbow]

no

[frozen wyvern]

You cant remove the debug text yet in vanilla but I think theres a mod

[lofty laurel]

Can only non-crafted knives butcher rabbits?

[vague trench]

my first butter!! i shall cherish my butter log

[wet timber]

Iggy from JoJo's is hiding in a pot

[leaden wedge]

• Doubled maintenance xp gain.
• Lowered the amount of zombies in the Forest by 5
• Re-enabled Disinfect Bandage using hot water, added tooltip to inform it needs to be very hot.
  Yes 😄

[cunning turtle]

[left kindle]

Lowered the amount of zombies in the Forest by 5?

what?

[real fox]

question for yall, what month is ur character on?

[vague trench]

april just 23 days i think

[static heart]

[leaden wedge]

Even rotten eggs can hatch... Now i am fearing to look into my freezer

[glacial cape]

November 4 months in almost to December

[real fox]

i think im testing things out but i think i didnt know this but if clothes got holes they make you cold didnt know this haha

[glacial cape]

Oh good shout I might grind tailoring to maintain clothes then since it's been getting harder and harder to find good clothes

[vague trench]

lol wth

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

im also curious about the uncomfortable system

it seems the colder it is the more armor you can wear, but even on normal temp days too much armor is bad, but once it hits like 40f i can wear like bulky asf armor and only be minor uncomfortable status 🤔

[red hazel]

My character wants to kill himself when I make him wear the half mask. I guess he prefers smelling decomposing corpses 🤣

[forest shore]

My car doesn't haave the capacity to bring all my stuff I looted on foot this run.. So how do I prioritize what I need.

[stuck zenith]

you dont gotta wear armor to stay warm. armor makes you uncomfortable. coldness makes you uncomfortable. warm clothes dont do either

[sturdy sequoia]

that was frustrating me too lol, why wouldn't a gas mask be better to the point where your character can just accept the discomfort and not get depressed over it?

[hexed sun]

20 years later..........

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm really looking forward to being able to make armor just to have a few pieces on the arms and stuff, just extra protection if I'm going to be fighting a lot of zombies

[hexed sun]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-blocks-block-head-tryan-blocks-gif-13157134546106029566

[cunning turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991793738584178738/1033050669025861632/attachment-19.gif

[cunning turtle]

Grind tailoring

[sturdy sequoia]

I will at some point, gotta get my generator connected first

[hexed sun]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-walking-away-patrick-leaving-patrick-not-caring-patrick-dgaf-patrick-star-gif-18088871825132921421

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cathands-cat-in-hat-cat-with-hands-silly-cat-gif-14981685377760273746

[vague trench]

for whart?

[hexed sun]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-blocks-block-head-tryan-blocks-gif-13157134546106029566

[vague trench]

k

[cunning turtle]

You'll remember me if u grind tailoring, tailoring can save lifes fr

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[sturdy sequoia]

show up in pz thread, implies other users are dumb via gif, refuses to elaborate. truly an enigma

[heavy crown]

That fifth zombie in the forest was just too much

[hexed sun]

no?

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I'm really only going to use it to make armor tbh I don't like the look of having leather patches all over my clothes. I've tried it before, I just care more about how it looks than how protective it is

[slim merlin]

I’m a month and a half into my run and it’s August 30th

[sturdy sequoia]

I think mine is either very late July or early August, I forget if August actually started for me yet

[cunning turtle]

I feel you, but when you're like lvl 8 at tailoring, the patches looks like if the clothes are brand new no cap

[sturdy sequoia]

huh it doesn't just look like ugly brown patches stuck on randomly?

[heavy crown]

You can patch holes but I'm pretty sure Dana is talking about adding leather padding for armor

[cunning turtle]

Yeah lmao, it's looks normal, but like at lvl 8

[sturdy sequoia]

oh yeah I was talking about adding leather patches to clothing to increase the protection, it's always been ugly brown patches when I've done it before

[heavy crown]

IIRC there's mods to remove that, the padding looks absolutely hideous

[cunning turtle]

That's what I'm talking about lol

[heavy crown]

Oh, it looks like that does get removed if you have high tailoring. Neat!

[vague trench]

whers band patches

[cunning turtle]

Told you

[heavy crown]

I think that's a B42 change, very welcome one at that

[cunning turtle]

Nop, I learned that from b41

[heavy crown]

I thought B41 only applied to patching existing holes, not padding new ones. I'm pretty sure I had a character or two that maxed tailoring and ended up using a mod for the patches in there.

[sturdy sequoia]

ikr it's awful, idc how good the protection is, I'm not using it if it looks that ugly

[heavy crown]

Either way, leveling enough tailoring makes it not a problem even in full vanilla now it seems

[sturdy sequoia]

but if at lvl 8 it doesn't look bad, then perhaps I will

I heard you don't get as much thread from ripping clothes though in b42 right?

so it'll be hard to do the sewing and unsewing patches onto prison jumpsuits or longjohns for grinding

especially since you can't rip up socks anymore

[sturdy sequoia]

oh fuck yeah

that's only after tailoring 1 but that'll be a huge help, how much thread does it give? a full spool or?

[worthy elbow]

Guys, what can I do in carpentry that can give more XP? (assuming I read the book to multiply the XP)

[severe egret]

Lol its not even that good. Theres always the chance a zed will get a crazy good rng roll and bite through literally fucking anything

[heavy crown]

Each rag gave this much thread

[velvet egret]

ripping up carpets might give more

[velvet egret]

I believe building things gives more XP than barricading windows or sawing logs

[worthy elbow]

tks

[forest shore]

About to start a fire at the Rosewood Fire Department to try and get some loot - lets all wish Vera luck.

[sturdy sequoia]

well I'll be tearing up a lot of rags then ig lol

good luck vera

[opaque schooner]

Oh sick thread has more colors now

[mossy tangle]

I was disaapointed wool gives you 1 thread :/

[severe egret]

Wonder if all the trait symbols will eventually get the moodle treatment

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/pocket-luck-clover-jar-vial-gif-25755705

[velvet egret]

break a leg, Vera

[forest shore]

So far it's going well

[cunning turtle]

Break a leg

[cunning turtle]

Adding new ones too

[cunning turtle]

But you can grind tailoring adding patch to other clothes till you get at lvl 8 and then add patches to your clothes to keep the drip, duh

I do care about drip, I'm know what I'm talking about dana the dono

[forest shore]

https://tenor.com/view/great-success-yes-gif-5301633

[leaden wedge]

Thats affuly close burning zombies ^^ Keep your distance unless you like fire. Otherwise god speed! Timing xD

[vague trench]

whers ur char lol

[leaden wedge]

left of the yellow tree in the middle 😄

[vague trench]

where lol

[leaden wedge]

Ok freezing eggs prevents hatching. Cooling or rotting does not

[vague trench]

oh lol shit

lol

[leaden wedge]

The camo works xD

[forest shore]

Got the axe I needed - plus some extra loot

[frozen wyvern]

Box of antibiotics is great

[forest shore]

Yea - didn't even know it came in boxes. Going to be super nice.

[velvet egret]

[leaden wedge]

Pickaxe is also nice. Allows you to get alot of flint to make new axes

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/xd-sonic-gif-20919387

[forest shore]

Yes pickaxe is very very nice.

[cunning turtle]

Nice

@sturdy sequoia if u want to keep the drip without mods, u're cooked then no cap

[glacial cape]

Antibiotics useful now?

I've never bothered to take any because I heard they do nothing

[forest shore]

I want to see if they help with corpse sickness

[cunning turtle]

Try it

[forest shore]

I have it set so living zombies give you corpse sickness too.

[sturdy sequoia]

well duh that's what I'd do knowing the patches stop looking like shit at level 8

[sturdy sequoia]

I never said you didn't my guy

[sturdy sequoia]

also never said I wasn't using mods, I was in this chat like this morning preaching the good word about spongie's jackets and spongie's open jackets, some of my favorite mods

[vague trench]

Whers my boxes of doilies

[cyan blaze]

has the Black screen issue fixed on AMD devices?

[cunning turtle]

I was just showing you in that screenshot that don't matter if u're at lvl 10 at tailoring and you add more patches, you drip won't look good, just repairing the existing holes, I was in a server that used a mod to make the patches added invisible, I'm realizing that now lmao

[cunning turtle]

Keep preaching the good word

[leaden wedge]

300% no respawn... even westpoint is hell on earth xD

But i may have enough clothes to skill some tailoring 😄

[real fox]

[sturdy sequoia]

ohh that makes a lot more sense lol

[leaden wedge]

Yeah the mod is also updated for B42 ^^ So my zombie collection is in a neat stack. now to wait for mass magots for fishing 😄

[rich cove]

MAGOT FARM 😮
genius

[glacial cape]

POV: West Point about 5 months in ( I just want a damn magazine to grind out blacksmithing >:( )

[severe egret]

That zoom level

And resolution.. why dont mine look like that 😕

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

So when u play with ur friend for example and wanna keep the drip, look for that mod then

[cunning turtle]

He's flexin at our faces

[severe egret]

My understanding of this stuff is.. not great 😅 does he just have a banger monitor or is it GPU related?

[cunning turtle]

Good question

[glacial cape]

4k res

[severe egret]

Which is achieved by...?

Just a sweet monitor or..?

[glacial cape]

Pretty much

bit overkill thou for pz tbh

[severe egret]

Yeah. Though the zoom level is handy

[glacial cape]

I don't really play that many demanding games besides ARK Survival Ascended which would require it

is 250% max zoom level not a default setting?

[severe egret]

For me it doesnt show as much as your is. Even then yeah i think you have to turn em on in the settings

[glacial cape]

Huh weird

[forest shore]

My starter house on this run had a magazine that taught me how to make nails lol

Best thing to grind.

[glacial cape]

I'm on the hunt for either that or the magazine to teach me how to make small blades, can you resmelt nails youve made?

[forest shore]

I haven't tried yet - but my understanding is you can melt down anything that's metal.

[leaden wedge]

Yup that should be enough rags for tailoring... anything...

[cunning turtle]

Hmmm yeah...

Lmao

Impressive

[leaden wedge]

Right clicking that pile was a BAD idear... game took like 20 seconds to respond xD

[cunning turtle]

Dayum

[leaden wedge]

Seems to be an engine limitation my pc isn't working hard

[cunning turtle]

German

Unstable version

[leaden wedge]

Thats true ^^ And i mean it did not crash

[vague trench]

Lol, could make a nest

[glacial cape]

Aight, that bookstore had already been looted btw 💀

I love the pre-looted buildings but moments like this makes it suck a little

Cleared the gigamart upto the bookstore in town and nothing

Hey at least it had pottery vol 5 :D ok I lied a little it also had reloading 2 which is the only hype thing I got from the bookstore lmao

[sturdy sequoia]

maybe, if I can find it

[leaden wedge]

yeah i had that with the one in muldraugh AND westpoint. Thankfully the postoffice had a suit of books for me or i would have cried

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3408069800

[glacial cape]

Check the cardboard boxes in storage lots they're great for the new skill books & magazines

[leaden wedge]

oh nice tip im gonna check

[glacial cape]

Yup I cleared all the storage lots from other towns minus LV & the new tons because I'm not familar with those and I still haven't got any good magazines to start blacksmithing with its my only bottleneck atm

I got a bunch of metalworking/welding magazines though

[leaden wedge]

uhh i found an aiming book?!? Thats new

[lethal wolf]

ARK gang. I'm gonna swap from faulty Intel CPU + MB to AMD soon(tm), maybe I won't be able to play PZ until the black screen bug gets fixed 😄

[leaden wedge]

Even with my murder rig i can't play ark ascended on max with good fps. (atleast sp atm)

[true smelt]

It's mod? This zoom?

[lethal wolf]

tell me about it, spent 4000+ euros and only with DLSS I can get semi-stable 100+ FPS

but then faulty Intel CPU caused ungodly amount of crashing until microcode was fixed, now my CPU is dying anyway

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049762894876774460/1328084036639264925/image.png?ex=678a0764&is=6788b5e4&hm=efa871823eb71879fa316173cb24cbbf5643722c05064bd3b299e31573644638& flashing pixels here and there xD

note in any case: picture above has nothing to do with B42, but my Intel CPU, you can rest in peace while I fight the RMA fight

[glacial cape]

ARK is notrious for being unoptimized

[leaden wedge]

AMD 7950X3D with Geforce 4090 and 64 Gigs of ram and Watercooled... And ARK is like MORE, MOOOOOOORE

[glacial cape]

hopefully when they bring back frame generation & introduce the UE5.4 update in March & add AMD FSR 3.1 it should help people

hate that UE5 games havve to rely on this crap when you know fine well that your system should be able to handle it devs are just too lazy to unoptimize because hey the engine already has some optimization tools

I've played plenty of UE5 games which are optimized it just feels lazy

[leaden wedge]

Eh i believe it when they do it. I have like 2k houers in evolved and they also always said "it will be better soon" ...

[glacial cape]

No its vanilla

[glacial cape]

I have no faith in their roadmaps lol

I see it and be like cool so these are releasing a month or 2 after what's lsited on the roadmap

[leaden wedge]

Atleast the modding apk automatically updates with the game now ... Evolved Mod apk was sometime 3-5 MAYOR updates behind

[glacial cape]

True, I still won't forgive Nitrado for gaining a monopoly over the servers but they are part of the reason why the game exists

[leaden wedge]

Thankfully i have my own dedicated windows server from Hetzner (65€ thanks to Microsoft license <.<) so i can host any game i wan't that has dedicated server support.

[glacial cape]

Yeah that's what some people have been doing I play on a patreon server & the owner of the server has his own cloud hosted servers

It sucks as well because Nitrado servers are terrible lol

[cyan blaze]

bro how do you can survive 5 months?

[glacial cape]

What do you mean?

[cyan blaze]

what do you do to survive 5 months?

[cunning turtle]

Kill everything

[glacial cape]

Idk I take my time slowly clearing out points of interest and rest whenever I need it in the early game I spent most of my time in the outskirts of fallas lake & riverside and just slowly cleared out everything

[leaden wedge]

3 main things: Get a generator, a car and a fridge in an safe base (near but outside a city), Avoid YOLO actions. (looting in the dark etc), when the helicopter comes get in the car and drive away from where you are living AND looting

[cyan blaze]

my record was 1m 10d

[glacial cape]

Looting in the dark is fine honestly if you've got a short weapon or the chest rig

[glacial cape]

well this is my current record :P I usually only live till 2-3 months in

I don't really rush each major POI as well I just loot at what I need in the moment by making a note of stuff in a journal

[cyan blaze]

my character died because he doesnt drank alcohol for a long time

[glacial cape]

Are you playing with mods which expand traits?

[cyan blaze]

yes

[glacial cape]

that sounds like bs to me dying to that I'd hate it if my run ended that way

[real fox]

it makes sense early stages of the trait but to DIE to it after awhile of not drinking as much sounds weird

[leaden wedge]

well any tip we give you becomes mood because your mods could change the base we are assuming

[cyan blaze]

he never received an only attack at this time

[glacial cape]

I see I'm mainly playing vanilla with a few fixes mods I haven't really ever touched expanded trait mods before just fixes & qol

[cyan blaze]

I tried drink beer, but the mod only accept whiskey

[cyan blaze]

and i didnt know

[glacial cape]

Well I guess if you're gonna be an alcoholic gotta go all the way then 💀 but dying without drinking sounds excessive for a trait from a trait mod

[leaden wedge]

That sound like one of the bad trait mods. Or another mod changed the id/references for beverages and the trait mod didn't work because of that. But an general tip: If a trait seems "easy" but give 8-12 points its probably a trap

[cyan blaze]

its just, thats trait gives 10 points and you need only drink whiskey

[glacial cape]

Yeah but if it can kill you is it worth the risk?

like is your pz character suddenly Bender who can only be fuelled by alcohol

[cyan blaze]

the worst of all is: i had whiskey

[cunning turtle]

Whiskey lover

[cyan blaze]

like 3 containers with it

but I didnt know 😔

now Ive got started a save with Nomad mod

[cyan blaze]

while I wait for a fix to b42 on amd devices 😭

well, good night everyone

[cunning turtle]

Good night

[glacial cape]

Good news about that there's a preview patch which was shown on a drunkonlife livestream and the AMD devices was in the list of upcoming fixes

I suspect it'll come next in a week or two

[leaden wedge]

Probably sooner unless they find an mayor problem. He nearly mentioned a date in the stream and they are in the final testing of the hotfix.

[glacial cape]

Oh sweet I was at work so I missed a bit of the stream

[leaden wedge]

Specially considering the current version has some major problem

[glacial cape]

What do you mean this version is perfect 🙃

[cunning turtle]

[leaden wedge]

Well it is FUN. Sometimes in the dwarf fortress type of F.U.N. way... And i may have to cull my chicken. i have 5 chickens and 4 coolers full of frozen eggs xD

the 3 raincollectors full of milk AND LOTS of butter from two cows are another thing xD And i already set all animal settings down to normal from fast

[sturdy sequoia]

woag tysm

[leaden wedge]

No problemo and I am getting old. I needed to google your response xD

[cunning turtle]

This

[chilly atlas]

project zomboid hidden fun stuff when

[leaden wedge]

Well mining is planned. Otherwise i may have to add it to our next hydrocraft release 😄

I am literly playing with a notepad next to me and noting all the features down that we need to adapt or remove from hydro... and its a lot. But we where due to an redo anyway...

[glacial cape]

Oh! I knew I recognized you from somewhere

it'd be cool to see Hydrocraft return in some revamped form to expand on the B42 crafting that mod was fun to play with and B42 has given me more motivation to continue playing & develop my characters skills even if its not complete yet

[leaden wedge]

Currently the Plan is: Wait for b42 to be either feature complete, or we know certain what will be coming. Then first find "useful" parts from Hydrocraft that are not implemented in base. (in example photography is REALLY low on the prioritie list). Then we will look into extensions (like tin for smelting if it's missing in vanilla or weapon types that we already have graphics for), then variations like the foraging berries and the recipes, then unique decorations (flags, Christmas stuff, etc.). Then new features.

And split the mods into modules so people can deactivate part they don't want.

[glacial cape]

That's great to hear I remember seeing that Peach was working on 3d modelling for a bunch of the Hydrocraft item sprites is that still in the plans as well & this might just be a me thing but will there be less of a bloat on stuff in Hydrocraft I felt like sometimes it had way too many items and stuff that you were kinda at a loss on what to do or even where to start unless you were pulling up the crafter helper or some form of guide

[vague trench]

Yay lol hyfro was one of the first mods i played with back forevers ago

[glacial cape]

but yeah I agree waiting for B42 to be feature complete or the crafting side of it to be esentially finished even whilst in unstable will be the best way going forward

[leaden wedge]

Yeah the bloat is what we wanna look at. Varity is good. Bloat is bad. There are quite a lot of items that where intented to be used some day but never where. And then someone had an idear and added even more... Now we can stuff unfinished test stuff in sub mod so people don't have to deal with it. Craft helper will likely be still a friend but it should no longer be necessary. But for now we wait since no one likes to implement things to have the main game provide it a month later on its own xD (Mostly the reason the work on features stopped and we wen't to only maintance patches)

[fringe barn]

Hello Mr. Indie Stoned, when patch please?

[leaden wedge]

Soon™

[glacial cape]

I'm wondering if some form of survival guide/handbook would be worth looking at to explain some of the crafting or just give a basic overview of discipline kinda similar to what Vintage Story has if you've ever played that

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[glacial cape]

that game also has a pretty robust crafting system and its got upto mechanical machinery & alloying similar to HC

[leaden wedge]

Well one of the last things we found out was how to make books with custom texts so we can maybe put it ingame (not loot. more like craftable frome notebooks or somethign like that). Or we can do an ingame wiki with a custom menu. But both will come after we portet the "old" stuff

[glacial cape]

because I do think looking at recipes is helpful but how would I know what each workbench is used for without having to make it or test it in debug to see the usecase and if it may be worth looking into & for some people it is difficult to know what they're doing when there's so much stuff to do they tend to get lost similar to what might happen in Minecraft modpacks cough Gregtech

[leaden wedge]

Gregtech... was fun it its first 3 iteration or so now it wen't full tedium and clunky... But yeah we will probably start with a simple google doc guide/faq in the start and find an ingame solution later.

[glacial cape]

👍 good to know

[stone nacelle]

can't do it sorry, gotta use 45 mods to hotfix all the simple quick fixes and as for more reasonable value changes, how about you instantly die when you put on 2 pieces of armor

[stone nacelle]

i do not think workbenches in particular have a role, it's the tools assigned to the task more often than not

tho i have not tried everything but most things seemed to just be "find a table"

the more frustrating aspects are having chisels but being unable to make anything even at lower condition or at a cost of more resoruces, tho tbh i think we all knew craftign was gonna be pretty fucking rough and i trust they have a plan

i really hope they do at least

[leaden wedge]

We where talking about Hydrocraft crafting but it is strangly true for the new crafting system too 😄

[vague trench]

Of course they do

[stone nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

until the next thursdoid or hotfix there aint nothing we know other than "more is coming"

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[thick laurel]

They should add heart attack as a result of too much butter

[cunning turtle]

[severe egret]

Im sure eventually one will just vomit if one tries to eat a whole stick of raw butter or smth

Simulated cholesterol might be ott

[gleaming perch]

diddy ahh blud

[cunning turtle]

blud

[mossy tangle]

Can I be a paleo diet character and magically be immune to heart disease

[stone nacelle]

they could just reduce the insane calories it gives

[cunning turtle]

Like irl

[stone nacelle]

more like 800-825 irl

[mossy tangle]

Exactly ahaha

[stone nacelle]

but typing numbers out that aren't insane must take 4 years

[mossy tangle]

In the new patch notes it takes 5000ml instead of 500, which is closer to realistic

[cunning turtle]

Blud knows facts

[severe egret]

That too but like.. Id like to see anyone eat a whole stick of butter out the fridge and not feel sick

[mossy tangle]

It’s funny how that’s a fact, but add bread and the same amount of butter is doable lmao

[stone nacelle]

nah butter takes like 2 cups of cream its not hard to make at home with the right stuff

a stick at least

if you wanna prep the milk as an addded step that'd be good too

[mossy tangle]

It takes like 10-20x the amount of milk to make butter, I’ve done it! Depending on the fat content off the milk but like minimum 10lbs of milk for a lb of butter

[stone nacelle]

but all the calorie values are fucking nuts so

[mossy tangle]

I assume it’s a lb of butter in game because it’s almost 3600 cals

[stone nacelle]

i haven't opened the fridge at anyones house and found a solid pound of butter unless they were a baker about to embark on a large project lol, again all in all it's pretty goofy and far from the only food with horrible values

i assume soda is gona be fixed, the current elixir of life

[cunning turtle]

[mossy tangle]

I actually buy lbs and cut them into four sticks, but maybe that’s a Canadian thing? Seems the most common I see in stores haha

[stone nacelle]

i cant' hear you over the voices from not sleeping for 15 days

[mossy tangle]

Yeah that’s in the notes too

[cunning turtle]

[vague trench]

lets try being positive lol

https://tenor.com/view/pandb-love-gif-20087366

[stone nacelle]

no

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[vague trench]

i will shove clitter and sparkles down your throat lol

[cunning turtle]

Blud is aggressive

[stone nacelle]

i'm ready to vomit and i have very acidic bile sir

go for it

[vague trench]

wheres the macaroni and clitter

[native spear]

how do you get the weird font some people have

in pz

[real fox]

mods

[native spear]

thank you

[forest shore]

In the accessibility settings it's an option for Dyslexic Font.

[real fox]

day 2 already got crops planted, RP burial cause priest RP , then scavaging for food rn

[forest shore]

So it turns out that you can fill rain barrels with gas???

[frozen wyvern]

Bro looks like a post apocalyptic priedt for sure

[forest shore]

Seriously how I imagine a priest looks in an apocalypse.

[frozen wyvern]

Its because they are fluid containers, but yeah i never thought to store gas in them lol

[forest shore]

Yea - Atomic Duck released a new tips video for B42 and it's in there lol. 600L of fuel! That's insane. But it's a really good idea imo to get one. Makes remote bases and the possibility of empty stations less of a problem.

[dusty zephyr]

hold on what

[forest shore]

Ope. There goes my power.

[dusty zephyr]

Tag him and dask him

[frozen wyvern]

When the patch comes and Vanilla Firearms Expansion updates im excited to start another run, gonna try to collect as much gas as possible

[forest shore]

Ok good night everyone I'll hopefully be back tomorrow when the power is back on

[frozen wyvern]

Oh wait ur actual power not the game power lol

[real fox]

Father Luis is getting swole 😼

bro has been so lucky

[frozen wyvern]

Stronk

[severe egret]

Bahaha, thats funny cause irl it would just evaporate

[severe prawn]

Chat chat, i just heard that you can't level up your skills with tv programs and vhs tapes past level 3 now, is that true?

[real fox]

As of b42 yes but this is customizable via sandbox

[severe prawn]

WHY

THIS IS DISGUSTING

[real fox]

So your not a whimp and stay home for 7 days

Easily changed via sandbox tho, can make it to lvl 10 if you desire

[severe prawn]

Nah, how they expect me to level up mechanics without tapes

[frozen wyvern]

I mean it makes sense, cant become a master carpenter by watching tv

[real fox]

By doing actual work oh noooo xD

[frozen wyvern]

Xp gain does still need a rework but exclusive tv watching aint it

[real fox]

I agree that vhs tapes should give XP past lvl 3

But station pre tv outage should be capped at 3

But having VHS tapes that are skill based also being capped at 3 feels a bit punishing as well

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno, the vhs copies are the same content

[real fox]

Yeeee true , but the fitness ones don’t even mean much unless you are running a weak character

[severe prawn]

Do you know how much it takes to level up mechanics? It is so tedious. I spend weeks grinding just to get a level 5

[real fox]

Mechanics is literally the easiest skill in the game

[severe prawn]

NAAAAAAAH

[real fox]

I can lvl mechanics in literally 5 days to lvl 6

With skill books , without maybe a week

Unless you get really unlucky and don’t spawn with semi conditional vehicles in your spawn town

Which very rarely happens

It really just takes knowing what parts give most exp

Same thing for welding ( metalworking has been changed ) welding is its own skill but still levels the same

It takes me literally 2-3 in games days to level welding to lvl 3 , just dissemble fridges and showers and you get massive exp

If you have fast learner this is even faster

[pastel wing]

41?

[whole tundra]

welding isnt in 41

[left kindle]

IDK, but it just sounds like exploiting/cheating to me for some reason

I'd feel bad if I ever disassembled radios for 2 days straight

[storm barn]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-get-on-project-zomboid-project-z-gif-24525651

[deep dome]

Do grass tiles ever regrow?

as in regrow from dirt when you do actions such as making a furrow or using a scythe

[glacial cape]

Yes

[deep dome]

how long you reckon? couple months?

[glacial cape]

Not sure but I have seen grass around my area regrow

[bright glade]

grass also grows, like longer over time, I was at the country club near riverside once in a multiplayer server (the same country club mentioned in the city description when spawning in), the people living there "hired" me to cut the grass near the pond so they could pour gravel (or sand, not sure which it was) as a makeshift sort of road

I was just surprised there was an option to cut the grass

although I'm hoping they add lawn mowers eventually, that was tedious work

lawn care was not something I was expecting would be a thing I would have to do in an apocalypse, but yeah, after a real long time, you're probably going to want to do some chopping of the stuff growing in your yard and cutting the grass and bushes

those small saplings growing in my yard after a few months in make a ton of noise walking over them, although if there's zombies wandering in my yard because of the noise, they were an imminent threat anyways

[ripe nebula]

Just lost my Burglar a month and 11 days in to the B42 playthrough

Was pretty fun. In the last few days I got into the fishing system but couldn’t catch any fish at all. Idk what I did wrong.

I was using a makeshift fishing rod with fishing line and a forged hook. I foraged that from the area near the water and used it with a caterpillar and pillbug as bait.

For my next playthrough I just wanna go strength 10 and run around one shotting zombies with a strong build

[deep dome]

improved scythes would probably be a better implantation, as in adding a option to cut at the 2 different heights

because rn scythes cut to a dirt texture instead of the normal grass texture that would be expected like when you cut grass manually

[royal heron]

I JUST REALIZED

PENIS HAM

[severe egret]

Ah the good old meta grind. Optimizing the fun out of games for decades

[severe egret]

"Right, thats 3000 lightbulbs replaced.. on to the engine.. i definitely know what im doing"

[red hazel]

Im lazy and got that automechanic mod to lvl up mechanic lol

[cunning turtle]

Father Luis is getting the drip now no cap

[cunning turtle]

Do u recommend the pacifist trait?

[cunning turtle]

What a lazy man fr

[red hazel]

beats having to uninstall parts manually for 1000x when I can just click once and it does everything lol

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

If you plan on surviving longer then 1 month yes

With fast learner you still learn 5 percent faster then base

Since it only reduce exp gain by 25 percent and fast learner is 30 percent faster

[cunning turtle]

Nice, thanks for the explanation

[sturdy sequoia]

do you get net points from taking that tradeoff? like how much does pacifist give you and how expensive is fast learner? I would've guessed fast learner is more points tbh

[real fox]

I should be on my computer soon and I’ll be able to explain more

[glacial cape]

Pacifist is +4 points whilst fast learner is -6 points

[sturdy sequoia]

hmm yeah so you're still down 2 points there but it sounds like it helps to offset the cost. maybe I'll add that to my build next time then

[cunning turtle]

Same

[sturdy sequoia]

I was thinking of swapping smoker for short sighted too, it doesn't seem worth it to take smoker now but I didn't realize even the debuff to firearm range is negated by wearing prescription glasses

[glacial cape]

I wouldn't really recommend it because weapon skills are slow to level especially if you don't already have a boost in them

[cunning turtle]

Boutansha got a point

[cunning turtle]

What a about your drip dana the dono, I don't like the prescription glasses fr

[sturdy sequoia]

but from what luna was saying, it counterbalances with fast learner right? so you're actually still leveling them 5% faster ultimately

[glacial cape]

Sure but without pacifist it could be 30% faster

[sturdy sequoia]

the circular ones? they can definitely be a slay with the right look, you just have to incorporate that into it. which I might be willing to do

[glacial cape]

Even quicker If you've already got weapon skill

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah but I don't have 6 points to spare and I've never used fast learner before, and I'd still get the 30% boost to all non weapon skills which is a pretty huge boon in my eyes

[glacial cape]

Just means really you've gotta kill more zombies to level weapon skills which is fine if you're confident in your combat abilities lol

[cunning turtle]

If will you use that trait, let me see ur drip

Makes sense

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I will, circular frame glasses can be pretty cute and I've done that before too

[sturdy sequoia]

I was already doing it is what I'm saying lol I never used fast learner before so I won't be missing it now. if anything it'll feel faster bc the net 5% increase I get from combining the two perks, fast learner beats out pacifist based on what luna was saying

[glacial cape]

Yeah if you already got weapon skill as well it'll boost it even further

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm very confident in my combat abilities, the only thing slowing me down is the changes that make it so you can't fight for as long and having to take breaks

[cunning turtle]

Yeah if you're not used to that trait, it'll good

[sturdy sequoia]

exactly so it's a net gain to all skill increases, just less so for weapon skills. I'm cool w that, definitely worth the net -2 points

[cunning turtle]

Nice

[sturdy sequoia]

I wear contacts irl but I've considered getting a pair of glasses for a backup too, I would definitely consider circular frames for it tbh

[glacial cape]

Only thing I'd be worried about with having to kill more zombies to level up is you will have to deal with fatigue & endurance more often on your journey to a new level of weapon skill

[cunning turtle]

Dripping

[sturdy sequoia]

I already do in the new build lol

that's why I keep complaining, I'm just not used to it yet. but I'll get there, dw

[glacial cape]

Real

[real fox]

My opinion is that having pacifist in the long run is beneficial of 2 points free, cause in the long run you’ll have at least lvl 5-6 in whatever your favorite weapon is pretty soon anyways if your constantly killing zombies

For shorter runs I wouldn’t spec into it for the free points

I also chose it for RP cause I’m playing as a Priest that slowly adapts to the apocalypse

[cunning turtle]

Slowly?

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm always constantly killing zombies, I don't know any other way to play this game lol

so yeah I'll get my weapon skills up fast, I always do if I'm focusing on a particular weapon skill or two and in the new build I really have to

[real fox]

in the next patching they are increasing maintence xp as well gained

[sturdy sequoia]

and adding in skill books for it, I'm looking forward to that

[glacial cape]

I play this game like the sims lol I usually mark down cool furniture I find in poi's to come back for later for my own safe house

[sturdy sequoia]

oh yeah I do that just not until much later on in a save when interior decoration is something I'm able to spend time on

[glacial cape]

It's the only way to play the game imo 🙃

[sturdy sequoia]

lol yup

[glacial cape]

Go from harden survivor to decoration goblins months into the apocalypse will never get old

[red hazel]

I got the car pack mods and NPCs. I just go find NPCs to bring them back to base and look for cool cars (they are rather rare) and tow them back lol

One point I found a Lambo in the junkyard with like 15% overall condition with everything red. It was a project trying to restore it heh

[sturdy sequoia]

mhm I'm always making plans to build stuff around where I live, blocking off my base and then fortifying nearby buildings so the rare zombie that wanders in can't hide in there so easily and jump me unexpectedly

[glacial cape]

Damn the golden scar of pz lol

[sturdy sequoia]

oh my best friend loves doing that, he's like a huge car guy irl so he's always our in-game mechanic too and loves finding muscle cars to fix up from nothing

[glacial cape]

I've been playing with a friend in b41 recently and I keep coming back to my base filled with more & more cars after coming back from collecting cooking food

It got so bad we had to burn down and clear a neighbouring house just so he had a scrapyard

[leaden wedge]

Today i learned that you can use Water collectors in B42 on gas pumps... I have fuel for days

[sturdy sequoia]

that's literally what my friend does, we not only need a lot of space for our own cars (his mostly) but also a separate lot for the junk cars he's broken or whatever while grinding mechanics

and he just leaves the car parts all over the ground lol

[sturdy sequoia]

can you actually carry those to your base though? I would've thought they'd be too heavy

[glacial cape]

Yup we built my friend a little carshop with storage for vehicle parts & a metalworking storage area for car repairs yet he still manages to find a way to fill it with car parts and starts dumping the stuff on the ground

My friends are massive loot goblins as well so any storage warehouse I built just gets filled instantly

I usually only take what I need and make a list of what we're missing

Meanwhile they're like let's loot every single bullet & gun we can find 😂

[mossy tangle]

And you can pick it up?!

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah tbf car parts weigh a ton so there's only so much you can do to make storage for them

[leaden wedge]

you use it from you bag. But you are then extremly over weight. Enough that i had to use a heavy duty car since my normal car struggled with the weight

[real fox]

i have a sneaky feeling devs will patch the gas barrel haha

[glacial cape]

Americans will look at that gas amount and think hell yeah

[sturdy sequoia]

literally that's exactly how he is, he's always struggling not to be over encumbered bc he picks up so much stuff

[sturdy sequoia]

damn that's wild. a great resource though for sure

[cunning turtle]

Can't relate I'm not american

[glacial cape]

Me neither that's why I said that lol

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[leaden wedge]

Well why though? It takes ages to fill so you need to clear all zombies anyway. And if you have cleared all zombies it just reduces tedium to fill 100+ containers

[sturdy sequoia]

even if they patch it we can just keep a rain collector dedicated to gas and fill up every gas can you can find (they're so easy to amass in huge numbers later on) and dump them until the barrel. rinse and repeat a few times and you have a good supply of gas at home

[sturdy sequoia]

you give Americans too much credit for knowing how much milliliters are lol

[real fox]

Just a feeling, cant really be certain

[sturdy sequoia]

the metric system scrambles people's brains here bc our education system is butts and anti intellectualism is so prevalent. people are so stupid here lol

[real fox]

they might make it so you can fill the barrel but not move it

if that makes sense

since the thing is like 600 pounds

[cunning turtle]

hmmm

[cunning turtle]

I just know one thing, the hospital bill is high for one reason

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah that's why I think filling a load of gas cans and dumping in a barrel kept at your base is going to be the best way, if they do remove it

[leaden wedge]

eh. people are stupid everywhere. America keeps the imperial system since the costs to change to metric would be extreme and no one wants to pay that in a capitalism based system

[sturdy sequoia]

easy way to store the stuff en masse if gas stations aren't too far

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah bc corporations run the country and anything they can do to line their pockets, they will do

[cunning turtle]

Foods are the first reason for health issues

[sturdy sequoia]

fair, I'm just saying it's a symptom of the larger problem with our education system and the very common republican method of operating primarily in misinformation and lies and just rejecting the truth. ignorance reigns here

[leaden wedge]

Yeah.. also some of the food "safety" solutions are wild. Literally ~~bleaching ~~ chlorinated poultry to reduce refrigeration requirments is wild.

[cunning turtle]

I didn't know that the excessive consume of sum foods can affect the eyes too lol

[tidal jolt]

I wish we could try the next patch

[sturdy sequoia]

the rich looooove cutting corners

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[glacial cape]

Soon™

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

Rich

I like that word

[real fox]

if we are lucky end of this month, if anything early next month probs

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[glacial cape]

I predict next Thursdoid

[cunning turtle]

Is blud good in prediction?, we'll see

[real fox]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3051276857 i like this mod

[glacial cape]

Nah

[cunning turtle]

Are u currently using it

[real fox]

yes

thats why i got my character wearing da shorts

[cunning turtle]

Makes sense

[sturdy sequoia]

what does it actually do? we already have hot and cold weather, does it just make them more extreme?

[real fox]

makes them a bit more intense yeee, prevents you from armoring up day one

[cunning turtle]

Like irl

[real fox]

summer and spring are hot, autumn is neutral, winter is very cold

[sturdy sequoia]

oh okay cool, makes sense

[real fox]

it doesnt make it super extreme , just a bit more intense

im still decently armored, i can even get away with magazine armor on chest if i wanted

[leaden wedge]

Speed is my armor. Sneaker + No slowing armor + good fitness.

[sturdy sequoia]

I tried making magazine armor in my save and couldn't, I didn't think it would be one of the ones to require a magazine since it's pretty basic and intuitive tbh

[leaden wedge]

Even when encumbered i am faster then most zombies. (Btw. 1% sprinters is QUITE a lot in Luisville xD)

[cunning turtle]

Why ur armor in invisible or am I trippin

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

i play 1% too :3

[real fox]

the pads

[cunning turtle]

Nice

[leaden wedge]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/78089-wellnesshome-level/ interesting suggestion

[glacial cape]

Best vehicle story I've come across

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-5105344

[cunning turtle]

Father Luis is sum else now...

[real fox]

question

[cunning turtle]

answer

[real fox]

good tatic?

[cunning turtle]

Good tactic

[tender elm]

oh wow - the new sprinter noises are creepy

[real fox]

males/females zombies have unique squeals and screams now

super scary shit

[cunning turtle]

@sturdy sequoia when will you try this

[cunning turtle]

Father Luis is doing well no cap

[leaden wedge]

good tactic with one sprinter. DONT try this with many. Against many you wan't to run into a house or forest and sepperate them

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

you shouldve seen yesterday i panicked againts two when i acceidently left my car by pressing the wrong key haha

[cunning turtle]

That happened to me too lol

[real fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiOLda9C67A&t=6s

[cunning turtle]

Flexin

[real fox]

wtf is this i always see it

[leaden wedge]

its basically an metal scrubber. Used to clean grills IRL. In pz i have not found a use yet

[real fox]

wow

i knew what it was irl but in game i was like erm what do i use this for

[tender elm]

i think you can smelt it into iron

[real fox]

thats neat

[vague trench]

Irl you can put a c battery to it and itll light on fire lol its so cool

[tender elm]

it does have a "IsFireTinder" tag on it, so you can use it to start fires

thats a cute detail

[leaden wedge]

oh neat

[real fox]

LETS GO

[vague trench]

Awh ehat that awesome i have only come across dryer lints

[real fox]

i found plaster pounder in dumpster

[sturdy sequoia]

ooo I do actually like that idea

[sturdy sequoia]

sprinters?? fucking never lol

zombie sprinters are so unappealing as a concept to me, I much prefer the mindless shamblers personally

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[cunning turtle]

never say never

[sturdy sequoia]

I'll never want to try that. I am certain

I used to play the og dead island games growing up and while it eventually became fun to wait until the last minute to decapitate zombies sprinting at you and shrieking, I didn't love having to constantly fend them off in the city of the first game. they're just annoying

[cunning turtle]

What about dying light 1

[sturdy sequoia]

it would be cool if they eventually added the ability to damage zombies visibly in pz, like bludgeoning could knock limbs off or slashing blades could cause their guts to spill out

[sturdy sequoia]

I never tried it tbh

[cunning turtle]

What a violence lmao

[cunning turtle]

You're missing s great zombie game fr

[sturdy sequoia]

I heard it's more about running away from zombies and parkour, I just prefer bashing my way through blunt force style

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I don't doubt it but I just haven't tried it. maybe someday

[sturdy sequoia]

it's par for the course with zombies tbh

pretty much all zombie media tends to involve killing them, sometimes in pretty gory ways

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

Try it someday

[sturdy sequoia]

maybe I will idk

[glacial cape]

Does anyone know if this recipe gives metalworking xp? Because without an magazine to make small blades I don't see any other method of getting xp for this

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/blazing-saddles-gene-wilder-morons-cleavon-little-gif-12334435

[glacial cape]

I've searched pretty much every library, storage lots & schools in each of the towns and haven't found a recipe magazine for small blades

[autumn pier]

Ideally it should? You should have a save in debug for testing purposes if you wanna find out yourself ig

[glacial cape]

Yeah I'm gonna go test that now after offloading my loot

[sturdy sequoia]

mean to me

[sturdy sequoia]

it seems places that have cardboard boxes are better for finding those now, like post offices and stuff

[glacial cape]

Yeah ik storage lots & post offices are great for the new magazines & skill books but I've looted all of the ones I knew of in each town and found nothing

at worst I could travel to the new zone of the map or try the dreaded LV...

[vague trench]

ios that a recipe or skillbook

[sturdy sequoia]

damb, is your loot spawning turned down at all?

[sturdy sequoia]

I did find a flyer for a post office in Ekron but I checked the b42 interactable map and it looks really small so that kinda sucks

[glacial cape]

Set to extremely rare so that's probably why, also there's a b42 interactable map?

[glacial cape]

recipe magazine called American bladecraft

[vague trench]

have you tried looking for the bandit zombers

[cunning turtle]

zombers

[vague trench]

i cant recall if i have ever really seen recipe like that other than on them , i think maybe in a pre looted house and some of the house stories ill keep eye out if i notice it spawning anywhere significan

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I think it's b42map.com or something, it comes up on Google pretty easy

also if your loot is on extremely rare then that's why you can't find any ya dingus lol

[vague trench]

lol

[sturdy sequoia]

they're rare even by default settings

[vague trench]

yahi tried insane rare on one save lol and it was really ruff

[sturdy sequoia]

mhm I can't imagine. that's one of those settings I never touch, I like finding goodies too much

I like for my buildings in-game to have loot, I'm not playing dayz ffs

[vague trench]

lol , i used to play with insane rare but on 42 it seems like its literally living up to those words now

PLUS i need the momentos yes yes

[glacial cape]

No but I have ccollected a couple of annotated maps I'm planning on checking out as long as they aren't in LV

[glacial cape]

Yeah but even so the loot pools are diluted especially for magazines and skillbooks, and rare & extremely rare are different to how they were in b41 :P

[leaden wedge]

All annonated i found are deep in luisville -.-

[glacial cape]

Ty I will loot all the post offices, libraries and schools plus storage lots if I have to

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I'm just teasing, I know it was more viable to play with decreased loot in 41. I meant it in a lighthearted way uwu

[vague trench]

lol i got a couple of those that were in lv like no way i aint going up there

[glacial cape]

:P I might not have to going to test in debug first

[cunning turtle]

uwun't

[sturdy sequoia]

oh yeah I've heard storage lots are good, haven't tested it myself yet

[sturdy sequoia]

say sike rn

[glacial cape]

The cardboard boxes from them were great for getting the new skill books & magazines however instead of metalworking magazines I was getting welding magazines instead 😭

I was getting a good amount of skill books for knapping, carving etc even with extremely rare loot settings

[cunning turtle]

xdn't

[sturdy sequoia]

aww that's frustrating. I should see if there's one in march ridge then, if I could find electrical 2 I'll be set for getting my generator up and running

[sturdy sequoia]

get owo'd

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

Honestly this might be my next best bet I wanna see the new military bunker anyways

[sturdy sequoia]

I was excited for that too but I hear it's || pretty devoid of loot unfortunately || (spoiling in case you don't know yet and want to see it firsthand)

I can say however that the march ridge post office and vhs store are great for getting stuff to level skills

[vague trench]

death ridge!!!

[glacial cape]

Yup looks like these are gonna be my next best bet as testing in debug the other blacksmithing stuff doesn't give any xp towards it

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

surely it can't be any worse than the LV Military Checkpoint right?

[sturdy sequoia]

it took me days to clear just up to the post office, the population is real high for sure in March ridge

[glacial cape]

How would you say it compares to LV? Or even WP?

[vague trench]

LOL man i just had to run real fast through that place with a car and when i got to one of the gates there was a burned down car blocking it so i had to go on foot but had to wait for the horde to break the gate lol

[glacial cape]

I've never really been to March Ridge or remember too much of it because there's literally nothing there lol

[sturdy sequoia]

I've only been to echo creek, rosewood, March ridge, and Muldraugh so far so I couldn't tell you tbh. work has kept me too busy and/or tired to play pz like I wish I could

[glacial cape]

March Ridge is still probably a better idea than what my other idea was which was the crossroads mall 💀

[glacial cape]

Fair

[cunning turtle]

lv when

[vague trench]

i think i have been to it like 3 times since it was a thing lol and everytime i go there i die

[sturdy sequoia]

you give me such "ven vill you vear vigs" vibes when you ask me when I'll do random things lol

[vague trench]

even with friends with me i die lol i hat ethat place

[glacial cape]

I spent my first time going to the military checkpoint in a B41 playthrough with friends & was bitten by 1 bathroom zombie I refuse to go back there and I burned the place down in a fit of rage

[cunning turtle]

One moment, let me search for it to see if I can relate

[vague trench]

haha

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19497520

[sturdy sequoia]

https://youtu.be/-xqEABqaEuo?si=zXcQ-mT3JZpOVIMi

the full interview is like 9 minutes, it's really funny but this is the clip of the part I'm referencing

[cunning turtle]

Yeah I just watched it lmao

[sturdy sequoia]

lol

[vague trench]

ahahah

[glacial cape]

Idk if thats better or worse than death by microwave

[vague trench]

lol in the middle

[visual sand]

have you worn wigs?

[sturdy sequoia]

what's really funny to me is that he says no but he literally wore a wig to play Frodo so like. why are you lying my guy lol

[vague trench]

lol

who threw away a perfect crowbarf

[cunning turtle]

Me

[sturdy sequoia]

I love all the new filler junk items sm. dryer lint my beloved

[vague trench]

lol lint puffs

[vague trench]

y thnx for this treasure

[sturdy sequoia]

my precious little dust bunny babies

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/big-comfy-couch-dust-bunny-gif-14372913

[opaque schooner]

Jesus Christ

[vague trench]

LOL

[sturdy sequoia]

cute cinnamoroll pfp

[opaque schooner]

Ty!!!

[sturdy sequoia]

np!

[opaque schooner]

:3

[cunning turtle]

Np

[glacial cape]

I have made it to December

[sturdy sequoia]

woag

[vague trench]

have you guys used bats at all , theyre so strongk

[sturdy sequoia]

how's your food situation?

[real fox]

im already at long blunt 2 at 300 kills

with relunctant fighter and fast learner

so its for sure worth it still

[sturdy sequoia]

yes I have a mod that lets me craft baseball bats with carpentry 3 and carving 1. I love baseball bats so much

[cunning turtle]

Hmm

[sturdy sequoia]

I love when you do an uppercut swing and knock em on their butts, it's so satisfying

[cunning turtle]

Blud is in love

[glacial cape]

Good I've been living of omlettes & when my piggies raise I will be chopping up them and putting them in my butchering & icebox shed I built near my livestock farms

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm just saying negan had the right idea picking a bat as his signature weapon

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

Metal baseball bats are apparently really good

and you can make a bolt scrap metal bat

[sturdy sequoia]

ooo that sounds cozy. have you used the butter exploit thing much? I want to try just to see how making butter works but I know it's kinda broken in its current state so idk

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-gif-20367518

[sturdy sequoia]

I've only found ones at like almost zero condition in garbage containers so far unfortunately. I'd love to find a good one

[glacial cape]

I have been using butter a bunch just to keep my weight up ebcause the way I see it since calories are broken atm there's no reason not to

[sturdy sequoia]

true true might as well fight fire with fire until they inevitably fix both

[vague trench]

i moved from muldrag but left these chickens , they didnt eat their burrito when i came back

[cunning turtle]

Bad chickens

[vague trench]

no plonkies for them

[opaque schooner]

More burrito for you

[vague trench]

ill share my rotten buttritio wsiwth you guys

[tender elm]

thanks

[cunning turtle]

[vague trench]

i couldnt find a gif to portray the sharing of friends of food lol

[cunning turtle]

sadness

[cunning turtle]

[opaque schooner]

:D

[cunning turtle]

I'm the one in the middle

[forest shore]

I'm tempted to do a run where I don't have the ingame map enabled at all and just use the item maps

[forest shore]

How are calories broken?

[cunning turtle]

Did y get bored of the broken leg run

[forest shore]

Chicken apocalypse killed it. 😦

[vague trench]

lol

[forest shore]

Game crashes when I load in. It was too powerful for my pc.

[cunning turtle]

Nooo

[forest shore]

I think I lasted 2~ months? something like that.

[leaden wedge]

FYI Shoulde Armor prevents wearing backpacks...

[vague trench]

thats longer than i ever would lol , i jumped out of a window and hurt my leg and purposely went into ahoarde becuase it was so slow

[forest shore]

With a splint and slow healer it healed after like a week and half.

[vague trench]

haha yah , doesnt the big football ones do that?

[cunning turtle]

Blud got no patience

[bold estuary]

If you guys are just chatting in here I'll remove slowmode

seems like it's not so insane in here anymore

[opaque schooner]

Hell yeah

[cunning turtle]

Hell yeah

[forest shore]

Quick everyone, lets make LoKiel regret their choice immediately

[leaden wedge]

Bone armor too. And forarm armor prevents watches.

[vague trench]

YAY

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[visual sand]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

[vague trench]

thanks leon fartbutt lol

[visual sand]

Common Leon W

[vague trench]

lol didnt someone in here say a rotten egg hatched?

[bold estuary]

rotten eggs need love too

ok bye

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/come-home-lonely-sad-gif-18114444432649961847

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[leaden wedge]

Yep. Only thing preventing hatching is Freezing and grilling them

[vague trench]

wth , im gonna try putting my eggs in a thingie then lol

[leaden wedge]

Bone chocker is GREAT. Prevents 100% of injuries on the neck and is cheap to make

[vague trench]

does it have any discomfort?

i want to make one now

[gleaming perch]

b43 tonight

[leaden wedge]

Don't know i have a mod that disables discomfort atm. Maybe it has some but probably not much. Worth the protection from insta death

[cunning turtle]

Soon™

[vague trench]

thats cool

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-goku-kakarot-appear-apear-gif-16031715726102816145

[sturdy sequoia]

I hope they add traits for reducing the discomfort gain or have it decrease over it time as your character gets used to wearing the stuff that makes them uncomfortable

[cunning turtle]

[vague trench]

lol calloused crotch

lol erm , wheres my days survived

[sturdy sequoia]

[fringe ravine]

Wear a watch

*digital watch

[vague trench]

[forest shore]

Ey yo I didn't even think of using chokers as defense

[forest shore]

I'd be happy to have kind of 'armor presets' so I can just remove/reequip all of my armor with one click.

[real fox]

do any of you use gas masks?

[forest shore]

Usually half face respirator, it's easier to find.

[real fox]

i feel like gas mask might only be good againts living corpses also having corpse sickness

[forest shore]

I play with that on ;P

[real fox]

thoughts on it?

how many zombies does it take for it to acculminate?

[forest shore]

And it changes how I play a lot. I love having the setting on, but it does suck when you catch essentially the flu after doing some major clearing. For small groups it doesn't seem to matter at all, just when the moodle is at its most red.

Also there seems to be a bug with respirator cartridges at least where they reset their use when you remove them

[real fox]

time for me to experiment

[sturdy sequoia]

ooo yeah that would be fun. make the game even more like the sims by giving us clothing presets

they'll never escape the simsboid accusations

[forest shore]

I'm not sure how it would work exactly. I do like the idea of having a seperate clothing UI and removing clothing items from the inventory like some mods did. Could have tabs for certain clothing options? I dunno.

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah I'm not sure

the current ui and the way what you're wearing / have equipped is displayed is a bit jank sometimes, maybe they'll improve that someday too. who knows

[forest shore]

I can't wait for the next hotfix - it looks like we might be able to finally play a primitive start. I would love that.

[sturdy sequoia]

yes I'm super excited

[vague trench]

yah i did on my last save cause i did donut to clear zombies lol

[forest shore]

Is there a VHS store in Irvington? I don't need location just yes or no (trying to explore it for myself)

[vague trench]

uh where are the save prefixes stored?

nm if ound it

[forest shore]

Zomboid/Saves

[vague trench]

lol thought it was in the main folder

thnx

[forest shore]

Lol I have 1.8GB of old saves.

[vague trench]

bruh lol

i wish we could favorite saves i almost got close to deleting one cause im ocd about things like that lol

[twin warren]

looks like there is on the b42 map

[forest shore]

Thankie Duckieee

What's the default carry weight in B42?

[visual sand]

Ooh, link to that mod? I figure it actually does make sense that walking corpses would, yk, stink

They start rotting when they "turn" don't they? Like they're still "dead"?

[real fox]

this is b42 sandbox settings no mod needed :)

[visual sand]

I find myself never actually getting "sick" in zomboid but I have a dogshit immune system (prone to illness irl and in-game) so I figure there could be a neat way to handle replicating that in-game

Tho I do wish there was more illnesses in game or more ways to get sick so there was a purpose for medicine since illness would be a major factor in any long term survival setting especially when modern medicine doesn't have nearly as many practitioners or resources

[forest shore]

These mechanics cars are so freaking nice. This one is a full step van - 100 engine quality is insane

[forest shore]

I remember there being an old mod that included diseases - but I don't think it's been updated for quite a while.

[vague trench]

awh man lol thats great car

[forest shore]

Keep an eye out for mechanics cars lol

[forest shore]

I just love towing on pz. Definitely should always be done at 15mph 🥲

[vague trench]

lol

towing or going over a bush pick your fighter ...or boss

[forest shore]

I wish towing was more reasonable. I should be able to easily tow a van with a step van.

[real fox]

Make sure all the tires are full of air I can usually drive pretty fast while towing

Including on the car your towing

Both cars full of air to 40/40

Or whatever the tire pressure is for that specific vehicle

[woven beacon]

You can by making the same pole 1000x and disassembling it though

Imho this is how skill progression should work

Diminishing returns from low level constructions, but much higher returns for higher level ones

Idk I just think they could make the game alot less grindy

Like, they want there to be clear profession specialisation, but you should still be able to survive indefinitely no matter what profession you choose

I dont think anyone wants more grinding in a game where hundreds of hours could be lost by a game bug or a single mistake

[cunning turtle]

Unstable version

[red hazel]

First time seeing this...

oh, one is a modded ambu and other is vanilla lol.

[cunning turtle]

lol

[vague trench]

Theyre having a discussion

[cunning turtle]

very intense

[main jay]

I can't find a source to reference all the best (non-exploit) ways to level the new skills

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-dance-gif-9389762

[slim merlin]

Is there a better way to level tailoring without constantly applying patches to clothing?

[cunning turtle]

Nop

[slim merlin]

Dang

[rich cove]

I'd say looting 1000 clothings and ripping them but I think ripping clothes don't give XP anymore?

[pallid hinge]

Correct it does not

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

speaking of, I need to make dinner irl but I am being squished by sleeping cats

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/errrr-gif-11240337506111379364

[main jay]

how'd you get that jiff of me, no one's supposed to have that

[cunning turtle]

🤫

[bold prairie]

I thought it was beautiful

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[cunning turtle]

It is

[vague trench]

i wish we had like photo filter thingies we could take pics of like in starfield

[untold saffron]

cozy

[severe egret]

Should be diminishing returns on everything. You can only make so many chairs before the task no longer teaches you anything critical

But successfully making something for the first time should be hugely rewarding. All they have to do is make it so that crafting everything unlocked under one skill level once adds up to like 70% of the exp towards the next level. Then there's only a small grind to reach the next level. Not only that but once you have crafted everything unlockable in your current level, you get an xp boost for the rest of the level

[hardy fox]

this my life

also, can you use the hay bales for food

[real fox]

HOW THATS COOL

[hardy fox]

ohh idk if you can but that would be reaaally good for me if you can

it would make sense to like break the stack down

[vague trench]

the perfect comfort

[hardy fox]

littderly, my character hasnt gotten sad or bored ONCE

[cunning turtle]

Harvest moon pov

[dusty zephyr]

omg its finally out !!! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409143790

[velvet egret]

[leaden wedge]

You can make bags for dirt/gravel from ripped clothes + threat. Is beneficial and gives exp. For grinding: Removing threats has two action. One of them is without skill requirment. This one gives Tailoring EXP the better one does NOT atm. Otherwise yea patch on patch of. Also i worked through 2100 ripped clothes and i am still not lvl 10 -.-

[leaden wedge]

Well a scyte allows you to mow down large swats of grass giving you thousands of grass to feed

[forest shore]

Absolute madlad Sapph coming in clutch

[slow dagger]

Will there be any east map expansions in the future?

[hallow adder]

At this point, the next patch's gameplay will be completely different than what we have right now.

I expect people to die harder when the patch comes out.

[sturdy sequoia]

why do you expect that? bc the cheatsy stuff like soda and mass produced butter are getting removed?

[hallow adder]

No, nothing of that.

Exploits aside, which I don't use, will be how we diverge on the choices we make early in a new start.

Like, you typically start off with looting and getting supplies, right? It is possible in the next patch, you will lean towards wilderness survival.

Basically, your gaming preferences will change drastically in the next patch update.

[sturdy sequoia]

ohh okay. does die harder mean something other than like, die more often or in more brutal ways? i may have misunderstood lol

i am also very excited for them making it possible to survive in the wilderness

[hallow adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/qxGjtSR80H

Oh gawd, the divergence of choices are immeasurable.

You can now sniff underwears...

[frozen wyvern]

I mean its a very poorly done photoshop but go off i guess

[austere pewter]

it's a mod i think

[hallow adder]

Yeah, just got bamboozled

[blazing mirage]

Boo..

[edgy kiln]

its a mod lol

[leaden wedge]

Let. me. reach. my. BOOKS... Luiville is hardcore in B42 xD

This was one room AFTER i used a siren to lure most of them away

[austere pewter]

we have the same fire truck lol

[leaden wedge]

😄 Best car. Strong, fast, relative fast and the storage can be accesed from the side. For big hauls i have an trailer 😄

[visual sand]

You bash all those skulls in manually or did you hit 'em with the Toyota Twister?

[leaden wedge]

Manually. Many spades lost there head there.

I have multi hit on and play without infections. I prefer this with 200% zombies (wen't down from 300% thanks to a mod since that was literly insane) and no respawn. You fight the hords of zombies as one of the few immune people...

[cunning turtle]

seeyuh