Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[regal spindle]

multihit would probably mitigate it I suppose

[valid schooner]

probably

execpt for the stomping thing

honestly i should probably just wait for a few patches, im sure they will smoth out alot of the problems sone

[left kindle]

we need ducks and geese in the game

[valid schooner]

soon*

[velvet egret]

imagine your character dying to geese

[glacial cape]

I'd uninstall

[cyan wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-gif-19688701

oh wait, that’s a goose

w8 are they the same?

they are

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/honk-gif-27594343

[crisp flicker]

A group of Geese is called a 'Gaggle' a male goose is called a 'Gander' and if they're flying together they're known as a team or wedge
😎 Goose facts

[earnest skiff]

I have mods to fix the books. Here's the Long Blade one:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3403134379
You should be able to click to see other mods by me to get the Carving one.

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[sinful veldt]

To implement the new physics based ranged weapon aiming system the existing ranged weapon code had to be ripped out and separated from the melee combat and its targeting. This may have unintentional changed the behavior from B41.

If you or anyone happen to determine good articulated reproduction steps of what is being described here or alternatively capture what you are experiencing in video clips please visit:
https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/43261-read-here-first-bug-reporting-guideformatting/

[keen gorge]

Sheet metal reinforced baseball bats have to be one of the strongest weapons right now

[regal spindle]

they do seem to last in particular

[glacial cape]

I want my mace

Idk if that'll be short blunt or long though

[woven beacon]

Yeah this, they need to have a clear indication of what type of weapon they'll be

Plank saw looks like it is meant to be long blade but it could be axe

[glacial cape]

Yeah idk if the large knives you can find are short or long bladed either

[woven beacon]

This

[tawny orbit]

finally

[cunning turtle]

[tawny orbit]

this mod saved my life

[keen gorge]

Just checked the code, it seems they have a 50% crit chance

50% base crit chance that is

[glacial cape]

Saw one which let's you use generators in basements & another which fixed the drain bug

Was playing vanilla purely but I installed a few fixes mods in the meantime until the devs patch the issues out

[mossy tangle]

What do you need to build one? Like when do the get the recipe

[cunning turtle]

How hoodini knows too much

[keen gorge]

Carpentry 2
Hand drill
That pair of scissors that allow you to cut sheet metal
2 small metal sheets
Nuts and bolts
Wrench
Bat

[cunning turtle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752674846185357312/1018038226998538350/091CAFD5-DC55-4717-B8D8-A518DC588BC6.gif

[keen gorge]

Bat with metal bolts do the same thing. Base crit chance is also at 50

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[keen gorge]

Then you also have this you can file under viable but needs work

[cunning turtle]

Hoodini flexin his knowledge no cap

[real fox]

👁️

[cunning turtle]

Hoodini is into sum

[reef pecan]

Wait
Is that why they’re so hard to pull??

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/techno-pirates-project-zomboid-zomboid-gif-25611530

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-dog-gif-15735278909360391194

Skywalker

[glacial cape]

Dying to zombies: ❌
Dying to animals: ✅

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[glacial cape]

"Who are you gonna tell, The zombies?"

[cunning turtle]

Hahahaha

[hallow adder]

Apparently, you can get yourself pinned under vehicles and trailers when animals headbutt you down.

And I bet you devs will keep this in because it is a real world scenario where someone got headbutted and died when a vehicle pinned the person down under.

[native spear]

The riverside bar is pretty good in my run, three pretty solid condition sports cars!

[glacial cape]

This is the best and most terrifying thing I've heard all day

[real fox]

aare metal feeding troughs bugged?

says empty

ah you have to fill all 3 not just middle

[civic drum]

There's a three segment trough? I've only seen two segment ones.

[glacial cape]

My large wooden trough only has 1 segment tf guess I'm hunting for metal ones now

[civic drum]

I really do feel like ax drop rate is insanely low. Only place I've reliably found them is in McCoy logging trucks.

Clear cutting the woods to build a 30 story unholy ziggurat is taking a much longer time than expected.

[mossy tangle]

Thanks! Do I need to find a recipe too?

[keen gorge]

I feel the opposite

I'm finding lots of axes stuck on zeds, even more than back at B41

[glacial cape]

@civic drum Make a stone axe the durability against trees is bugged right now it's infinite

[keen gorge]

Yes

[civic drum]

It's all butter knives for me.

[glacial cape]

Me when I see a bread knife and think it's a machete

[keen gorge]

It takes a while. First week is always them having carving forks or something stuck on them

Beyond the first week is when the really good stuff should come in

[glacial cape]

I thought it was around or just after peak pop when you see them

Could be confirmation bias but I feel that's when I usually see the good weapons stuck in zombies, also anyone else been finding the cool scrap weapons in the zombies as well

[keen gorge]

I mean if you're hunting for machetes or something sure

[glacial cape]

I haven't but it's hard not to miss a spear, axe etc lodged into a zombie

Top reason why I use short blunt though is it's the most common weapon type even in b42

[cunning turtle]

Xdn't

[keen gorge]

Lodged spears seem rarer now but I can usually have hatchet and hunting knives spawn in by the 2nd week

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

Hoodini how can I make spears without struggling now

[real fox]

cows 💕

[keen gorge]

But so far from testing, long blunts, short blade, and a very specific axe got lots of love with them sporting high base crit chances

[cunning turtle]

Harvest moon pov

[keen gorge]

Get to carving 3 asap so you unlock long sticks

[cunning turtle]

Oooohhhhh

[glacial cape]

I've been finding a lot more short blades, and short blunt than any other weapon type I feel although then again I haven't been actively looking for long blunt or axes etc

[cunning turtle]

I'll try it thank you

[glacial cape]

This is all irrelevant though since we can just forge weapons now

Take all those short blunt weapons or short blade you find and forge them into a mighty axe

[keen gorge]

Large stone axe is king

[glacial cape]

Blacksmith meta is real

[keen gorge]

Nothing like swinging a stone stuck on a stick unto rotting heads

[keen gorge]

I forgot I have a homebrew mod that allows me to carve long sticks. For vanilla, raiding janitor's closets for brooms seems to be the most successful for me

Supposedly you also get saplings if you cut down young trees but I havent tested that yet

[sturdy sequoia]

sorry to respond to this so late but I would not recommend this at all, I tried it in a run thinking it would balance out and it did not at all lol

[cunning turtle]

Well I think I'm cooked

[real fox]

Yeah I ended up not doing it

[sturdy sequoia]

being exhausted all the time and having to keep sleeping was the worst, it ended up killing me ultimately bc I couldn't ever get fully rested

[cunning turtle]

F

[sturdy sequoia]

okie good, sorry I was just catching up on the thread lol

[fierce mountain]

Three segment one is bugged Two segment is fine but if you want to use it for animal water ebsure its empty every time its raining. (Items keep spawning in them when empty)

[cunning turtle]

dana the dono

[real fox]

Thank you for this

[glacial cape]

Have you tested it with night owl trait from the security guard profession someone mentioned that it might worth in combination with that

[cunning turtle]

What happened to the sprinters run

[real fox]

28 days later run

[glacial cape]

1 tapped by a sprinter :D

[reef pecan]

I fell off my tower 😭

[real fox]

the voices are tellingme to boogey

[glacial cape]

My stupidest death was microwaving a pot

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[glacial cape]

I will never forget that one

[sturdy sequoia]

what does this mean

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-get-on-project-zomboid-project-z-gif-24525651

Can't wait for true actions to be updated :) I wanna emote on zombies

[sturdy sequoia]

I have not tbh, maybe that would help but honestly it felt crippling to just not be able to sleep without waking up too early and very panicked every single time

I could never recover enough to make any headway towards pretty much anything

if night owl would help that's cool but it would need to make a really big difference to be worth it to me

[hearty pond]

i played around with the new flyer system and managed to quite easily put together a very bare bones trading card system, with the possibility of taking a look at the card in maybe 30-ish minutes just reusing vanilla lua

i really like this new system

[glacial cape]

Could be worth stacking with just wakeful

[late folio]

cant wait for lifestyle mod to be updated

[glacial cape]

I SUMMON A BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON

[sturdy sequoia]

maybe but there's also the fact that you'd have to take security guard as a profession, pretty limiting for only getting a few extra points from restless sleeper

[glacial cape]

+2 points isn't bad thou

Especially if you're someone who isn't a fan of the sleeping mechanic

[reef pecan]

I’m going to debug back a couple skills because I wanna keep playing on the world

[glacial cape]

There's a reason people play on 2 hours days

It's so they can get more done since 1 hour is too short to some I'm fine with sleep and 1 hour days but I can see why people wouldn't be a fan

[late folio]

professions should have some negative traits tbh
that would be really cool imo

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[glacial cape]

Yeah it's called unemployed

[cunning turtle]

I'm just rhyming with your nickname lmao

[sturdy sequoia]

you mean the cost of wakeful? yeah no I frequently take wakeful, I just mean it's a very specific build all for the sake of making restless sleeper bearable. and it does give you decent amount of points but I just don't think it's worth it compared to other negative traits that are actually free

[sturdy sequoia]

oh lol

[late folio]

no I mean like how some professions have exclusive positive traits they should have negative too
veteran for example could have smoker or night terror by default

[glacial cape]

No no not wakeful I'm saying security guard costs +2 positive points so if you don't want to take wakeful it's not bad or at best you could combo them to get even more efficient sleep

[hearty pond]

I'm still kinda curious about whats going to happen with the farming system, considering its now a long-term thing

[glacial cape]

Oh I see, so taking unemployed would give you feeble(maybe not that extreme but I see where you're getting at)

[sturdy sequoia]

ohh I see yeah that makes sense, it's definitely worth a try just to see if it's viable as a combo

[late folio]

yes

[glacial cape]

Burgler getting a penalty to mechanics would be so funny

[cunning turtle]

Inka discord status is fact no cap

[late folio]

ikr

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[cunning turtle]

Escape the matrix

[late folio]

the secret is being mentaly ill
if you're "lucky" like me you get some stuff for free, like a own apartment and stuff

[cunning turtle]

I'm lucky like you don't worry, that's why we are talking rn, nothing is coincidence

[late folio]

haha nice!

[glacial cape]

I've played rimworld before and done some horrendous things to colonists and animals does that make me mentally ill?

[late folio]

thats just your standart UK colony

rimworld is awesome tho

[glacial cape]

What's worse than being in a UK colony? Actually living in the UK

[late folio]

all my slaves have cybernatic implants to the point that they're bearly human so they can work more effective for me

[glacial cape]

True wonder if or when we'll get another dlc mods arent enough to satisfy my rimworld itch

[late folio]

[keen gorge]

I diagnose you with British. Unfortunately, there's no cure

[glacial cape]

Only good thing to come out of the UK & Canada for me (TIS and Hello Games)

[late folio]

there is one

[sturdy sequoia]

I had such a hard time trying to get good at rimworld bc I played a lot of kenshi before it and I just felt like their world traversal and colony management was so much more intuitive

[late folio]

[sturdy sequoia]

rimworld, I couldn't even get going decently with a colony, they kept getting wiped out lol

[keen gorge]

Ah yes, Kenshi and Rimworld. The two games that introduced me to the world of voluntary dismemberment

[glacial cape]

Can relate it's a bit overbearing I want to get good at dwarf fortress and play cdda but I don't like how cdda ui looks

[late folio]

dont forget people playground

[sturdy sequoia]

I love adding hivers to my group for that reason, the skeleton limbs looked so cool on them

[keen gorge]

I like how the best strat I came up with so my people get tougher in Kenshi is to allow them to get slowly eaten by cannibals

[real fox]

eeeerrmmmm....my character spawn house has these photos

[glacial cape]

CDDA is also open source as well so it'll most likely not get a steam glow up like Dwarf Fortress

[late folio]

sweet sweet memories

I play with the week one mod rn
its really fun

[glacial cape]

All I see is one unhappy housewife

[cunning turtle]

Life is so beautiful

[sturdy sequoia]

jfc I never went that far, I just let them get beaten within an inch of their lives by starving bandits, and have one stay safe in the city so they can go bring them back in to heal

[late folio]

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-skinwalker-meme-funny-pistol-gif-23702023

[cunning turtle]

lmao

[late folio]

there's always mods

[glacial cape]

Another game I have to play that sounds awesome can't wait to do the same to pz human npcs whenever they get added in b43

[keen gorge]

Too slow, to the deadhive they go

[glacial cape]

True I like to stick mainly to purely vanilla gameplay mostly with a few spice mods and quality of life

[late folio]

I'll have enough time to play b43 bcs I'll be retired by then

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah npcs are going to change things so much, I'm really looking forward to it. in like ten years lol

[late folio]

I always mod the living fuck out of my games

[glacial cape]

I will be feeding people to the horde to get a stick of butter no questions asked

[sturdy sequoia]

the fast forward button is your friend

[cunning turtle]

next century*

[sturdy sequoia]

you right

[late folio]

https://tenor.com/view/made-in-heaven-gif-2288445034474793012

me waiting for b43

[cunning turtle]

lmao

[glacial cape]

JJBA Part 6 reference no way

[late folio]

yess

[sturdy sequoia]

with all the new npc framework stuff in this build though, I'm hoping whatever the next iteration of the npc survivors mod is, it shows big improvement over the previous ones

that'll help pass the time waiting for them to get added to basegame someday

[glacial cape]

Maybe the devs shouldn't let us get our hands on human npcs especially after we've been talking about the things we do in Rimworld & Kenshi 💀

[late folio]

I want survivor NPC's

[glacial cape]

If the devs are checking this chat just letting you know they will not be safe from us

[glacial cape]

Same lol

[late folio]

I'll support the devs with at least 10 backup labtops

[keen gorge]

I'm gifting all the NPCs peg legs the day they come out

[glacial cape]

It's worth it for the first tubs of ice cream at your local gas 2 go

[left kindle]

I once wanted to adopt a group of 5 children that were begging for medicine, so I had to imprison them. ended up killing them all when they resisted arrest

[glacial cape]

When rimworld anomaly came out I kept chucking prisoners into a flesh pit with peg legs and equipped with a log to let them fight to see if they were worthy of escape

(They were not)

[late folio]

"and then I played kenshi" ah activity

[keen gorge]

I like to turn my prisoners to kibble and then shipping them back to their factions

[glacial cape]

Favourite part of biotech was sending my nuclear waste to enemy factions

[keen gorge]

They never caught on what the ingredients are cuz i still get positive reputation

[glacial cape]

Can't ally with them so why not send them waste

[hearty pond]

farming speed and seasonal growth are still seperated sandbox options, well then I'll only be playing sandbox

[sturdy sequoia]

we may not be safe from them either, no doubt there will be some who are openly hostile to others. probably more common as time goes on after the apocalypse

[late folio]

this week one mod is pretty well made, holy shit

[hallow adder]

So what does this mod do?

[late folio]

plays one week before the apocalypse

[glacial cape]

Honestly I will just be happy to have someone maintain my generator and that would be his only purpose

[late folio]

and there are npc's everywhere, a kind of working police "system", random npc events and some other stuff

[hallow adder]

I see.

[late folio]

and with kind of I mean that I got shot by the police in the police station for taking a pencil

[lone vale]

yeah im sure the creator will add something for minor offenses

[glacial cape]

Truly the peak of America's justice system

[late folio]

maybe

[lone vale]

imagine getting arrested and then being trapped in a cell during the end of the world

and you just starve to death

[glacial cape]

All the people in cells when the zombies stop roaming in are cooked

[late folio]

but there is lots of other stuff
roberies, doctors, random shootouts with police involvment

[lone vale]

pretty much lol

[glacial cape]

Saw a clip of someone taking a shower and then all of a sudden a nuke dropped or something and he walked out completely unharmed

[late folio]

yea its a bit bugged

[glacial cape]

That mod looks chaotic

[late folio]

I think thats the day one mod

[sturdy sequoia]

oh yeah same, one of the most fulfilling things for me in games is having a community in-game to manage and support. I'm fully incapable of playing minecraft without spending all my time fixing up villages and making them look nice bc of it

[late folio]

its a much older version that was very buggy and laggy

[glacial cape]

Do the survivors stay or change after the first week into the apocalypse? Like will you still see them a month in

[late folio]

idk
I'm still at the first day

[glacial cape]

Fair enough

[late folio]

but the npc AI is very good for zomboid npc's
they walk down the streets normaly, they smoke, eat drink, interact with the world, talk to eachother, sit on benches and chairs, read books and stuff

I even seen a BBQ party

and a npc tried to punch me bcs I was in their garden

so you have to play thieve sim in zomboid to steal items out of houses

or come with a weapon and kill the house owner

[glacial cape]

Definitely sounds like an step up from when I tried a npc mod for the first time I forgot what it was called but there was a mod which I played with npcs and they were pretty jank

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah im not necesarially a fan of NPC mods but ill give Week One a go

[glacial cape]

Think it was superb survivors I tried

[late folio]

b42 has much more options when it comes to npc mods

I broke into a house through the window and tried to stab the houseowner, one stab wasn't enough and he pushed me to the ground and stomped on me, when I got up I manged to kill him, but someone outside called the police, now I hide in his basement

[glacial cape]

It's still Impressive they did all of that in b41 as well is day one and 1 week before by the same author or separate?

[late folio]

its the same

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[reef pecan]

I have reached the 8th story of my tower

[hearty pond]

how many zombies have you returned to the death

[reef pecan]

A minimum of 800
I may have fallen off the tower and kinda debugged my way back to where I was before

[hearty pond]

so the towers have insane pop, got it

[sturdy sequoia]

imagine if hang gliders were a thing, take one to the roof of a skyscraper lv and jump off to just glide over the whole city

[late folio]

middle of the first day
and I've seen some soldiers patroling rosewood

[sturdy sequoia]

is this a b42 mod or b41? it sounds really cool

[late folio]

its b42

[hearty pond]

i wouldnt be surprised if we get alteast some parachute mods

[sturdy sequoia]

ooo so modders are already making use of the new npc framework, sick

[hearty pond]

good ol' battlefield parachute jumping from buildings that would not be high enough, lol

[late folio]

cars also drive around sometimes I noticed

I've seen one run over a stray chicken

[glacial cape]

Lol

[sturdy sequoia]

ooo what if playing with a fighter pilot profession, you spawn in a random place on the map in midair parachuting down as your plane crashes somewhere

get like an air force pilot jumpsuit as your starter clothing

[hearty pond]

i think there was a mod that spawned you randomly in the map as paratrooper, just not in the air

[late folio]

I just wanted to leave rosewood but then I saw where all the soldiers come from, rosewood is completly blocked off
I've seen NPC talking abt roadblocks but I thought its just random dialog

[sturdy sequoia]

I'm just dreaming anyway, I don't expect that to be achievable lol

[cunning turtle]

Dreams can come true

[sturdy sequoia]

thanks mr. walt disney

[reef pecan]

What?
No I meant I’m building a tower

[cunning turtle]

Lmaooo

[reef pecan]

Btw guys should I stop at 10 floors or keep going?

[sturdy sequoia]

nah go to build height

[cunning turtle]

At 33

[reef pecan]

Oh

[late folio]

visiting the bar might have been a mistake??
there are also random bunny girls and loud music

[sturdy sequoia]

how can you see bunny girls and think you're in the wrong place

[cyan wharf]

😮😮😮😮

[cunning turtle]

What a party

[cunning turtle]

[late folio]

true

[cunning turtle]

Blud speak spanish

[cunning turtle]

dana the dono can relate

[sturdy sequoia]

do the emoji roles we have advance by just chatting here or how do those work?

looking to end my plunger era

[hearty pond]

yes, they are just levels, pretty much what mee6 does, just a lot less annoying

[sturdy sequoia]

okay cool ty

[cunning turtle]

Keep chatting

[sturdy sequoia]

yes I want to live in bunny girl heaven

[cunning turtle]

Can relate

[sturdy sequoia]

I will become one of them

[hearty pond]

there are also already bullet molds in the item list accessible via debug, here's hoping we get to make our own bullets

[worthy elbow]

Guys, how do I get gravel?

[cunning turtle]

graveling

[sturdy sequoia]

good, someone's gotta bring the eugene energy to the post apoc survivor communities

[cunning turtle]

Obrigado

[cunning turtle]

Hahaha

[cunning turtle]

@keen gorge mister hoodini should know

[worthy elbow]

mano, vc é br, faz sentido a piadinha agora.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao, I wish but I'm not, I speak spanish

I love Brazil btw

[worthy elbow]

é do mexico?

[cunning turtle]

Dominican Republic

[worthy elbow]

it's latin anyway hehe

[cunning turtle]

Yeah I'm kinda understand portuguese brazil too

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[late folio]

its the second day now (friday), soldiers started to shoot and people who want to leave rosewood and some soldiers guard peoples home and say that they are under "special quarantene measurements" even if the whole town is locked up they still lock people in their homes too

[cunning turtle]

[late folio]

and there are bearly any people on the streets, just one day before the streets were full of people

I'm low on food but idk if its a good Idea to leave the house

this mod is really good btw

the soldiers also started wearing gas masks

npc's take stuff from stores, they're all nearly empty

and you need money to buy stuff from the store

[cunning turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160784514633715744/1312620361237528667/attachment.gif

[cunning turtle]

Ahh those bunny girls appeared in that run?

[late folio]

yes

and one of the best things of the mod is that when you are in the store you have a voiced store radio

[cunning turtle]

ohh

[late folio]

and some radio stations are semi voiced

[wet timber]

I wonder how libraries work. Are they selling books? Or you need a membership? Or can one just walk in, read all he needs and leave?

[late folio]

I think you can just walk in

a member ship would be to complicated for just seven days of civilasation

[wet timber]

Well its definitely too busted if they allow to just came in and read all their stuff

I mean from game's perspective it's kinda op

[late folio]

I dont think that
you still need to buy all the stuff for wood and metal work if its not in your house
or you can try to steal everything

[fierce mountain]

Your welcome. Been mostly watching people play zomboid on twitch and thats how I found out about that bug among others. 😄

[late folio]

I just tried it, you actually buy the book

[cunning turtle]

That mod is like a movie

[late folio]

restaurants are cool

[cunning turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160784514633715744/1312620361237528667/attachment.gif

[late folio]

clotthing prices are funny
military boots for 10 bucks and leather glothes for 1

[sturdy sequoia]

does your character start with a good amount of money or do you have to get it somehow?

[gleaming perch]

U start with it

[sturdy sequoia]

nice

[cunning turtle]

I think you'll love that mod because the bunny girls lmao

[sturdy sequoia]

lol perhaps

[wooden ravine]

what mod?

[sturdy sequoia]

I will take their outfits once the zombies take over and be the last bunny girl

*cue avatar style intro

[wet timber]

Does character's occupation changes anything in this mod?

[late folio]

you start with 60 money

you can find money in the trash or you can steal it
didn't find out how else to get more

[foggy valley]

yo I got a question, how come I can't mix specific fluids like fuels and soda or something?

it refuses to let me at all

[cunning turtle]

@late folio Inka knows

[late folio]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3403180543

[cunning turtle]

Epic mod no cap

[cunning turtle]

Hahaha

[gleaming perch]

Can any dev confirm is rocks/mineral deposits will respawn on the map?

[ionic barn]

think the game hates me, explored every military checkpoint, most gun stores, quite a few survivor homes and absolutely no M16 rifle yet lol

[hybrid frost]

The game considering NPCs zombies is pretty funny

Panicking upon seeing large groups of people accurately simulates social anxiety lol

[sturdy sequoia]

relatable tbh

[lone vale]

i just accidentally took a vhs tape from a shelf when i had no money and then i got shot by the police lol

[sturdy sequoia]

I guess kentucky has the death penalty

[muted sleet]

MacOS players, anyone?

[hallow adder]

Honestly, I want a forgiveness system in place.

First time, warning.
Second time, capture.
Third time, shoot me.

[lone vale]

that would probably be the best way to go

it would have to not be there for serious crimes like murder

[silk nova]

do the water purification tablets still unusable?

[glacial cape]

Dunno I have an infinite refilling bathtub

[wooden ravine]

is alcoholic drinks not removing unhappiness a bug?

[heady field]

is there any fix for the resolution bug yet?
*the one where the UI are too big even when using smaller screen

[hallow adder]

What do you mean by "tablets not unusable"?

[real fox]

can i plant crops on bloody tiles without crops being angry? not sure if this is a mechanic or not

[hallow adder]

The blood is just a "texture", it doesn't affect the tile underneath it.

[real fox]

awesome

[visual sand]

Tried this irl my crops developed a taste for human flesh, would not reccomend

[real fox]

lmfaoooo

[mossy tangle]

Was there a sneaky fix to the car batteries or something? Mine aren't decaying anymore

[forest shore]

Mod maybe? Or maybe it's a hit and miss bug

[vague trench]

Feed me seymour

[mossy tangle]

Yeah running vanilla so no mods. I won't complain! haha

[forest shore]

Just double checked there's been no update to the unstable branch for about 16 days now

[mossy tangle]

Weidly enough this is the first run i've had where my guy started with a passport instead of IC card

maybe its blessed hahaha

[visual sand]

Poor guys are starving :(

[forest shore]

I didn't even know passports were in the game

[visual sand]

Ever since I noticed badges I truly grasped the breadth of new IDs added in 42

The immersion is Peak ngl

[visual sand]

I always make it a habit to walk my cops to the PD to leave their badge and gun on the chiefs desk

[mossy tangle]

Me either, I rerolled like literally maybe 30-40 times trying to start in a certain place and only one of them I had a passport. I guess I should do my civic duty and go to the airport and spread the plague more?

[visual sand]

What else are passports for?

[visual sand]

Crunchy

[sturdy sequoia]

gotta hand in your resignation before sniffing all the whiteout in the station

[visual sand]

And then beating the population to death with my big black crowbar

I genuinely thought I only spawned with a gun in B42 because I picked the police officer profession and was like "Okay shit this is busted"

[frozen wyvern]

It would be cool to have items related to your profession at the start, but yeah thats kinda too good

[sturdy sequoia]

as one does

[visual sand]

Honestly wouldn't mind it so long as other professions got similar treatment. And maybe spawning with only 2 mags instead of 5 would be less busted

[cosmic yoke]

i wonder when they'll fix the amd issue 🤔🤔 it'd be nice to boot b42 up on my gaming pc

my laptop can only handle b42 with like. all the graphics turned wayyyyy down lol

[forest shore]

I think that should be a thing personally

I also found a mod that gives me what I have desired for so long... We can plate food.

[mossy tangle]

I was thinking this today, like a bricklayer with a masons trowel and chisel, blacksmith with stuff etc. Would be cool!

[forest shore]

I still can't find a mod that spawns you in the woods though

[mossy tangle]

Are named sacks that are empty related to the consumables bug? Like.. sack of dirt (empty)... so a sack?

[real fox]

yes theres a fix

[mossy tangle]

Holy cow I just opened a golf bag with 7 golf clubs in it... I want a bat bag lol

[real fox]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400804695

[mossy tangle]

Thanks!

[real fox]

its a manual instal so make sure to read instructions or it wont fix it

[forest shore]

You can make zombie navigation random

[mossy tangle]

Thanks so much! Will do.

[forest shore]

Question - there's some debate on the internet about this - but does 'everyone infected' make the zombie virus potentially non-lethal?

[silk nova]

I found water purification tablets but it look unusable even if full

[forest shore]

I'm changing the settings to my idea of how zombies should be (I love that I can do that)

[sturdy sequoia]

I thought that made it so everyone would turn after they died whether they were bitten or not

[forest shore]

Yes it does do that - but there's also some people claiming it makes it so you can 'survive' a bite

[sturdy sequoia]

if you want the zombie virus to be non-lethal I think you can change the way the virus transmission works, like if you set to saliva only bites do it, not lacerations or scratches. not 100% sure but I thought I read about somebody doing that

[sturdy sequoia]

that I have no clue about but it would be nice to have the option

[forest shore]

I guess I'll just test it and find out

[forest shore]

Yea - there's "Saliva Only" "Blood and Saliva" "Everyone's Infected" or "None" but I don't quite get why "everyones infected" would make bites non-lethal when "none" already exist? But that's what came up when I googled it

[hallow adder]

You should start from January 6. Since it's only been 2-3 days since January 6, there are speculations the next patch update ETA is around January 23

[sturdy sequoia]

yeah it wouldn't make sense for you to be immune to bites on the everyone's infected setting but who knows how it really works

[hallow adder]

Or January 30, the next upcoming Thursdoid.

[forest shore]

They've said there are no more Thursdoids from what I've been told

[sturdy sequoia]

monthly hot fixes wouldn't be so bad as long as they fix a good amount of the bugs each time

[hallow adder]

Actually, maybe for the next Thurdoid, we will finally be able to get a sneak peak of Build 43 NPC update 1 😄

[sturdy sequoia]

damb I didn't know that, like ever? or just while we're on unstable?

[forest shore]

Also i'm saying I looked at the update depots - there has been no update for 16 days. Not speculation - I'm saying they have not updated the unstable build for 16 days. The dev branches are active but not the public unstable.

[forest shore]

[hallow adder]

Just saw this........ Nooooo, or yessss???? We're getting back to our Mondoids now.

[sturdy sequoia]

hehe fair

if they did sundoids we could

[hallow adder]

It's because the devs said they will return to work/office on January 6.

[forest shore]

Iirc the Thursdoids existed to give us some sort of update/activity updates while we waited for the new build. The new build is out - so it may be that they feel no need for them anymore. Instead they'll just release patch notes as updates drop.

[sturdy sequoia]

understandable

I'll just dig a grave on the last Thursday of every month out of respect in whatever my current save is

[spark cosmos]

I don't think that means no thursdoids ever again, just to be clear in case someone gets misled by “no more thursdoids”

[forest shore]

I have a long term goal - I want to find every unique zombie, dispatch them, and bury them in a cemetary. Like ||Jackie Jay, Kate and Baldspot...|| Not sure if there' smore than that.

[silk nova]

where they wrote it? on reddit?

[silent dragon]

There's the mayor of wespoint, owner of twiggys and a few others

If i recall

Plus the new ones in this update

[forest shore]

Okay sweet - so I'll have to find a list of them... Would be cool if there was a mod that made a obtainable list of them.

[silent dragon]

Debug has all zombie spawns

[forest shore]

Okay so setting infection transmission to 'everyone' does not make bites non-lethal. Just tested it to be sure.

[mossy tangle]

I found pink hairdye should I use it

[forest shore]

Yes

[vague trench]

Yes

[forest shore]

I think I may turn infection mortality off

Holy crap the week one mod is out 😄 I didn't know that

[real fox]

You can mix it with other dyes too

There’s purple too and green

[forest shore]

Lmao I launched the week one mod and it just started duplicating house keys and money for me in my inventory. Super cool.

[mossy tangle]

Wait like the colours actually mix?!

[vague trench]

yah you can mix sodas and make colors lol

[real fox]

Yesssss

[mossy tangle]

Thats nuts haha I love it

[hallow adder]

No, it was just me second-guessing that they will ditch Thursdoid in favor of a different schedule.

[reef pecan]

A thought I had regarding the butter farming

If you want to survive off the butter long term without much penalty to your weight fast metabolism might be a perfect trait for it

If how I’m assuming it works is right, and you produce enough butter, you won’t have to worry about becoming overweight as much

[silk nova]

did anyone understood how use the water purification tablets?

[slim merlin]

Been playing this mod but I can’t get past the second day cuz I keep going postal

[late folio]

skill issue

I just collected money off the random dead people on the streets and bought food and other prep for the apocalypse

I'm 3 weeks in now

[keen gorge]

They don't have a right click context menu option

Maybe it's locked on a recipe or something but that wouldn't make sense

Most likely they don't work right now, like how insect repellents don't have a use yet

[silk nova]

👍

[dusty zephyr]

lmao i was sure the basemeent of this place was always there

[reef pecan]

There is a basement, I just don’t use it

[dusty zephyr]

no ball to do a hold up in there with th pistol

[dusty zephyr]

ahh okay

[mossy tangle]

Um... I think I just used up all the luck I will ever have

[vague trench]

noice a lantern!

[mossy tangle]

Doesn't seem to make light though lol

Maybe I need matches lol

[dawn elm]

Finding a nice houses in the woods near Fallas Lake

[dawn elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLpwvS-9UV4 Fallas Lake houses shown in this part of the video are nice spots to start up a base

7:50 time stamp

[lucid ginkgo]

I've set up in the lakehouse with the blacksmithing area, but even though it has a water pump I'd still like to find a good spot to put a rain collector barrel and plumb it

[forest shore]

You can't plumb rain barrels right now (maybe with mods though)

[mossy tangle]

Is it not possi8ble to clean yourself with tainted water anymore? Like from a barrel?

[ornate laurel]

not from a barrel but you can from infinte water sources

[frozen wyvern]

I think its a bug atm

[mossy tangle]

Is that basically just the water pump?

[mossy tangle]

Yeah I figure, some weird bits and bobs with the new liquid system like animal milk never goes bad etc

[frozen wyvern]

Milk never goes bad irl what do you mean

[mossy tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[frozen wyvern]

Wells are weird, if you are close to one you cant wash anything, but if you walk a bit away from it then right click on it you can

[mossy tangle]

Can we make wells?

[frozen wyvern]

No i dont believe so

[unkempt atlas]

The people making mods that add new voices. Are they recording their own grunts and heavy breathing samples, are they generating them with AI, or do other games actually have the correct breathy sound assets for importation into PZ?

[frozen wyvern]

I mean i think theyre just taking samples from existing media

[dusty zephyr]

Guy hear me out

[unkempt atlas]

Cool.

[sly pivot]

TAA! I SEEK PEACE! PLEASE, LETS COME TO TERMS. FIRSTLY! BECOME A TOGGLEABLE OPTION!

[reef pecan]

Question
Where is this?

[red hazel]

Is there something that allow us to start our engine quicker? Like, I can have a 80% condition engine and battery but it still takes my guy like 5 tries to get the engine running lol

[forest shore]

Engine quality has a big affect on how often a vehicle will fail to start

[mossy tangle]

When you drive out of the top of riverside from the southeast, there is a big farm between it and the lectromax factory. This was in a shed in the far corner of that farm closest to riverside, you drive past it on the road

This is probabaly more helpful lol

[forest shore]

Oh literally right below the junkyard

[reef pecan]

So you can find wooden buckets as a sort of farm shed loot table

[forest shore]

You can also make them

[reef pecan]

Problem with that is the iron band

[red hazel]

I figured but I was failing like 3-5 times in a row with engines at around 80% quality so I was wondering if something else is the cause lol

[forest shore]

There's the current health of your engine (what makes it red vs green) but then there's a second stat you see when you click on the engine in the mechanics menu. This stat also has an affect on the start frequency of your engine. So if you're talking about the engine condition being at 80%, but your engine quality is like 10 that's going to suck always.

[red hazel]

Ohhhhh I understand now. Went to check my other vehicles and the highest quality is at 81. My Supra has 82% engine condition but 33 engine quality lmao. No wonder

[mossy tangle]

Man such a tease, theres a house with arcade games that make sounds and everything but I can't play to relive boredom!

[short briar]

Is there like a way to fix this?

[hallow adder]

Y'all didn't celebrate the 33,333rd message here....

[velvet egret]

[lethal wolf]

100k or bust

[granite tusk]

play on higher res?

[short briar]

1920x1080p borderless

I'm assunming that's standard nowdays but idk

[granite tusk]

you could adjust it in zomboid folder

C:\Users\(Username)\Zomboid\Sandbox Presets\

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[dusky sand]

Milk just ages like a fine wine

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[lethal wolf]

@vague trench Not only I found a book called Upper Crust in PZ, but also a deli kiosk at Helsinki railway station, the crustening

[cunning turtle]

[visual trail]

one of the very best mods out there

[pallid hinge]

[glacial cape]

Gave the new shooting system a try in my new world I actually kinda like it if only ammo wasn't so rare lol

that is my only complaint so far :P

[cunning turtle]

[lethal wolf]

I sure hope meta events dont scare livestock, I keep getting machine gunfire often in middle of nowhere

[native spear]

guys rate my art thats like PZ its stickman on car

[lethal wolf]

Apply for artist role in TIS

[native spear]

tyty good idea

[lethal wolf]

Now make us art for moodles

[native spear]

I will right now

which moodle

[wet timber]

[lethal wolf]

Hmmm the health status egg one but without the egg

[native spear]

ok I will

[cunning turtle]

10/10 no cap

[native spear]

tyty

[glacial cape]

stop sign looking ahh

amazing artwork thou :)

[native spear]

maybe ill make a mod pack

[glacial cape]

does anyone know if a stone maul is an short blunt weapon?

I would think so right?

[woven beacon]

clearly machine made

[native spear]

No it’s homemade I made it in Microsoft paint

[woven beacon]

Ik im just joking lol

[native spear]

lol

[woven beacon]

One day we will be able to stand on cars

[native spear]

That’d be cool

[cunning turtle]

One day

[lyric plaza]

Surely they're still adjusting the heatmap for zombies right? No way its finished in its current state?

high population btw, it was nothing like this in b41

[cunning turtle]

Go to lv check point to see sum

[glacial cape]

Rosewood aint that bad 🙃

[woven beacon]

Hope not because gun locations are borderline impossible to clear out now

But then some gun locations seen to have been unchanged

Idk I think theyre still sorting it out, but it seems strange to have the only way to get enough ammo to kill hordes is through the only places where hordes are the largest

I hope at least they give us more ways to manage or sneak around hordes

Because atm even at level 10 sneak it doesnt decrease the radius a zombie will spot you at

[pale swan]

Also the amount of time clearing the horde isn't even close to the amount of loot you get.
For example, i cleared the policestation in rosewood.
Then when i went to loot the location, i only found 1 case of 9mm amo, 4 pistols and 2 shotguns.

For 300-400 zombies killed!? what the actual f!?

[dim halo]

This isn't too bad, if you take it bit by bit you could have this cleard in a few days at most

[dim halo]

Ammo and guns were definitely nuked loot wise, i think ive sean two guns spawn in houses an i cleard the entirety of the new town

[pale swan]

The nuking would've made sense if we had bows/xbows implemented.

[lyric plaza]

yea but the problem is that there are hundreds of them standing in the middle of the road for no reason, realistically i feel like they would be more spread out like in b41, why are they guarding some random crossroad?

[dim halo]

But it is also Kentucky, i get lowering it but theve kinda killed gun play unless you stockpile for weeks

[lyric plaza]

in B42 its also just very clear where the invisible line between a "rural" and "urban" area goes, because one of them has zero zombies, the other has way too many condensed closely together imo compared to b41 where the transition was more smooth

[dim halo]

I think that was just bad luck of the draw for ya, i was on very high pop and they were still spread out

[lyric plaza]

hopefully thats the case

[dim halo]

IDK about you, but i wasn't happy when my B41 farmhouse in the middle of nowhere was swarmed by 1000s of zombies

Its definitely better. With a few questionable places

[lyric plaza]

also lore-wise i dont think it makes sense that zombies know where the good loot is, so they can all guard it. i think they would just spread out randomly

[fierce mountain]

Did you track for time passed since first day and already looted locations too?

[dim halo]

Well the not dead people whent to loot locations and become zombies thats why (=

[dim halo]

Bout 12th day i finished looting that entire area

[fierce mountain]

Did you check all the basements too?

[lyric plaza]

I always base out in the middle of nowhere and have only been attacked by very small groups of zombies ever so idk, i just never had any issue with the previous zombie heatmap and realistically some zombies would always wander off into the wilderness

[dim halo]

Only had two locations look pre looted.
And yes i checked the basements too

[lyric plaza]

😭

[fierce mountain]

Gotcha that makes sense then overall. I believe due to the amount of new stuff in the overall loot tables its less likely to have guns appear in normal houses. If you are at riverside I suggest you check the southwest trailer park it might have a few survivor houses.

[dim halo]

Most of em were okay, and on lower pop it wasn't the worst problem. But on insane pop, when one farm feild has THOUSANDS of zombies it quickly becomes problematic. Hell sometimes a town was safer than some feilds

[dim halo]

I wanna say your partly right, but i definitely think they lowered funs specifically as well, just look at police stations compared to b41

[fierce mountain]

Just remeber its likely not balanced yet and its better to nerf too hard for initial feedback than buff.

[dim halo]

Hears a quick post from reddit i pulled.

From my personal experience i can say this is correct for the b41, i haven't been to that army surplus yet in b42

[fierce mountain]

Just wait and see a bunch of stuff is still to be added into build 42.

[dim halo]

Yeah, i do hope they re bump it up. I get it, but it shouldn't be this low

[dim halo]

Im sure of it lol

[fierce mountain]

Either way I cant play for 3 weeks tops so I am happy to wait and see.

[dim halo]

Sucks.
Im haveing fun just messing with stuff

[finite tangle]

Yeah ive been messing with sandbox settings alot more now that I did in b41 which is good but I think the average player in my mind just wants to do apocalyse or survivor and not adjust to much. Hopefully they do bump up spawn rates of items

[jaunty gyro]

10/10 perfect stickman and stickzombies. I like the one with widescreen head on the left!

[cunning turtle]

That's what I said no cap

[native spear]

thank you for appreciating the details of my artwork

[lethal wolf]

got a feeling they'll hire you for sure now, official endorsement

[glacial cape]

Anyone know where to find the code for recipe unlocks? I want to look into unlocking the recipe for forging small blades just incase I end up wasting my time looking around the entire map for a smithing magazine

[native spear]

im excited to explore new opportunities regarding artwork for TIS, I can be unpaid intern

[glacial cape]

They'll be perfect for april fools drawings lmao

[lethal wolf]

perhaps you could grace us with a new main menu screen art since we lost the b42 one

[native spear]

I will do that now

[lethal wolf]

after all, Soul Filcher is a former modder, he surely will give it as a selectable main menu screen in some form

[dusty zephyr]

Its 100% what they want and i like it you go in a city what you think will happen

[lethal wolf]

I did not find a single gun in my run, just few boxes of ammo on extremely rare loot (which is rarer than before)

yet somehow I find far, far too much loot in the end since I need shit tons of trips to haul it all to my island

just not...the right kind of loot I desire

[dusty zephyr]

Peoples are so annoying they want everything without working for it... i Just see them complain on forum... about how hard the game is right now...

[lethal wolf]

I'd be gucci with even less loot IF all the b42 features would be in so I could actually thrive without having to find some mega rare recipe manual that entirely softlocks me

[native spear]

new menu loading screen

[lethal wolf]

Soul Filcher, time to shine, use that as at very least placeholder main menu art

or maybe some modder will grace us with a mod using that

[native spear]

id be honored for an experienced modder to use my artwork for the game

[dim halo]

Lol, horders be in pain

[lethal wolf]

trust me I hoard and even Extremely rare loot is far more extreme, when you go loot warehouses, factories, every big location you can think of, you still have thousands of units of loot

but then most of that loot is tools, not so many firearms...or right recipe magazines. I still weep for the lack of getting wire off fishtraps

Wire from fishtraps makes it renewable resource. Wire turns into barbed wire, barbed wire turns into fences that animals won't be able to break. Unbreakable livestock fence turns into less mental pain.

I'd probs just go for Insanely Rare loot at one point when B42 is more stable and finished, but as long as a huge part of the gameplay is gated behind manuals that do not spawn, it'll be a pain. Humanity did not invent things by reading a manual, but learning and trying

[native spear]

I made color version for more diverse menu options

[lethal wolf]

if only you would have more musical inclination, we need you to re-compose the main menu theme too

[native spear]

eventually

[cunning turtle]

Blud got talent fr

[dim halo]

Can it be done in banjo?

[native spear]

i guess whatever some free music thing alllows

banjo would be nice

[lethal wolf]

DC brand banjo as in-game weapon that also allows you to play the main menu theme pls

[native spear]

genius idea we need you on the marketing team

[lethal wolf]

yeah I'm pretty good with -checks- 644 reactions on a single message, one could say thats a marketing success

[dim halo]

Are you dubble counting people tho?

[native spear]

you truly are a marketing master

[lethal wolf]

how does one react twice with same emoji

[dim halo]

Fair enough

[cunning turtle]

Sounds like a envy

[lethal wolf]

I envy of sleep after today, haven't even played my save at all yet

but I know I got an island to build up, with planned gravel road and bridges

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

Take a screenshot after u build that island pls

[native spear]

did they change spiffo masks any? like make them have like way lkess view radius, theyre my go to hat

[dim halo]

Never, i too have a post with... 67 reactions

[cunning turtle]

Ohh flexin reactions

[mossy tangle]

Lmao I just found a megaphone, time to go to LV and insult the zombies on blast

[cunning turtle]

Good idea

[digital cloud]

i’m scared when it comes to multiplayer

[dim halo]

Nice idea. I don't expect you to tell me how it goes

[cunning turtle]

Don't be scared

[digital cloud]

you know what happened when rust added it?

[cunning turtle]

[lethal wolf]

I will, assuming I don't die before its done. I like vertical building to conserve space but alas non-chicken livestock can live on the island that I have to cross to get to my real home island, just me and chickens otherwise

[cunning turtle]

I like that

[lethal wolf]

of course these two are the ones I'm talking about

too much mud and dirt on the bigger one, so its just a midway point to my smaller home, and is a perfect island for livestock who like destroying everything

already landed on the target island, so its a juggle between keeping myself alive, animals that I have right now in check (chickens, pigs, will have to find sheep at least, but not necessarily given how gigantic fish can keep my weight rising like no tomorrow)

[glacial cape]

If you were this magazine where would you be? (I can't get started on blacksmithing without this btw and I've already searched every known library/school etc in each town minus the new ones)

[lethal wolf]

that one hillbilly looking home within Louisville perimeter but nowhere in the city itself

[dim halo]

Joes shelf

[lethal wolf]

north from the burned neighbourhood in Louisville area, outside of the main city

not so sure if the devs would put a high spawn rate in a place like that, but thats where I'd imagine you'd find gun and knife related content

[glacial cape]

Good going to LV is the last thing I want to do

its annoying being locked behind any blacksmithing due to not having a recipe but it is what it is

[lethal wolf]

Irvington has a place marked as "metal workshop"

[glacial cape]

one day I'll have my forged sledgehammer & mace

[lethal wolf]

Metalhead Toolshop

[glacial cape]

Think I'm going to go off the loot disturbiton on the wiki

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Magazine:_American_Bladecraft guess I'm hitting up storage lots & cardboard boxes

maybe rural supplies stores?

[lethal wolf]

good luck, thats how I ended up with infinite hoarding because I just can't not pick up something good

[glacial cape]

only one I know off outside of LV is the dixie one and I need a sledgehammer for that, 4 months in and now sledgehammer 😂

[lethal wolf]

Irvington also has a rural supply store.

well farming more like...

[glacial cape]

Guess that gives me an excuse to explore the new locations 🙃

[lethal wolf]

gun club, hardware tool shop...

instead of trying to fight a megahorde, I just equip a whistle on main hand and yell away for awesome crowd relocation effect

[glacial cape]

Hunting for one magazine gives me generator magazine vibes I know disaster is going to happen

[glacial cape]

Still on the lookout for a megaphone for myself :)

[lethal wolf]

found two, yet to test them. Whistle already produces enough sound to lure zeds off-screen, megaphone could be scary especially if it scares my animals

[glacial cape]

scares a cow cow kills you in fear

[lethal wolf]

cant even imagine living in a busy area with livestock, the infinite stress and wall destruction

can't use guns anywhere near the animals...

[glacial cape]

I love there's 2 halves of the map now I wonder if we'll see memes about West vs East kentucky lol

March ridge fans being non existent

[lethal wolf]

I might have to test myself by going to March Ridge just because its the only higher population place near my island, maybe something to do for the winter

equip all the epic extra webbings with pistols and magazines and look like Rambo

well, at least act like Rambo...guns blazing

[glacial cape]

I wanna level up my aiming as well to try out the m16's I got

But problem is the skill books are rare unless they're more common in military/police locations

[civic drum]

So has anyone determine the best way to raise welding?

[glacial cape]

Cars if you have a mod which lets you refill empty propane torches

[civic drum]

Likle dismantling them?

[glacial cape]

yea the car wrecks

[lethal wolf]

you did used to refill torches in b41 yeah? and atm its bugged?

[glacial cape]

yeah refilling empty propane torches is bugged I had to install a mod to fix it

[reef pecan]

So something I’ve noticed about animal breeding is that the baby’s breed is dependent on the mother’s
Meaning if you breed an angus bull with a simental cow (or however it’s spelled) the baby is going to come out a simental

[lethal wolf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3400804695 using this atm but dont think it includes a fix for torches

[glacial cape]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3388082481 I've been using this to fix the torch propane

like 1 of th eonly 2 mods I have

[mossy tangle]

This run has the funniest RNG, I have almost full sets of most books, 3 copies of how to use generators, and carpentry V but can't find 1-4 for my life

[native spear]

send one of those gen mags my way 😔

[royal heron]

I had loot set to extremely rare. 12 months later. I found a box of tissues and a hotties mag and that’s it.

Cursed run of the century

[slim merlin]

I was playing it. I lived in a trailer park. I see a man in my back yard. I tell him to fuck off. He follows me into my home and attacks me. I gun him down. 20 people arrive at my house and have been partying for 3 days. I steal a car from a neighbor and live in my car.

[royal heron]

Yo that’s insane I wanna try that!

[mossy tangle]

I started in the trailer park in riverside and was annoyed but then realized I was near lectromax and made off day 1 with 2 gen mags from the vans, and a van

[mossy tangle]

Lmfao some would say thats all you need

[hardy fox]

do we know if anyone is working on making dogs/cats >->

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-dog-gif-15735278909360391194

we do

[hardy fox]

:0

is it that same guy

[cunning turtle]

lmao

[hardy fox]

i wonder how thats going

idk how modding works (wish I did) but from what i've heard they can use like the stuff that the current animal npc's have to make their own animal mods work more efficiently or smthing

[cunning turtle]

yea

[waxen spade]

I read that also someone is trying to do it, but I think that to have cool animals mods we need to wait AnimZed release, that should be during this unstable.

[hardy fox]

whats that?

[waxen spade]

Is a modding tool, centred on animations, that should have been released on B41 unstable but for some reasons it have been delayed

Should be released during this unstable, and will help modder a lot

Devs expect a lot of more animations mod thanks to it

Same for WorldZed and TileZed, these are modding tools used to make maps that should receive wonderful updates, making possible add other basaments and complex map features

Honeslty I hope they will talk about these tools and their probably release on next Thursday.

[hardy fox]

thats cool! thanks for the info

[waxen spade]

👍

Unfortunately without these tools/updates the modding power behind B42 is limited.
When they will be released the mod community will benefit a lot!

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-z-zomboid-zomb-dance-zomboid-gif-24670810

[cosmic yoke]

Goddddd even just imagining cats and dogs in game. So so peak

[lucid ginkgo]

Literally had a dream last night that I was playing PZ and had to protect a little wiener dog and thinking "If this dog dies I'm so uninstalling"

[hardy fox]

Goals

[cunning turtle]

That wasn't a dream, you were in a timeline where the dogs are already in the game no cap

[hallow adder]

Did we get any confirmations that pets will be in the game (cats, dogs)?

[cosmic yoke]

i dont think so, not officially? but with all the cat stuff that's been added in with the latest update, i can only wonder. i mean they added cat treats and tons of different cat toys lol

[hallow adder]

Cat?

Did I miss something? 😄

[pale swan]

guys, just me or the loot in b42 is abysmal?

Rosewood firestation: No axes
Rosewood Police station: 4 pistols and 1 box of .45 ammo.

Wut!?

[unkempt atlas]

B42 loot is abysmal yes

Hard times for loot goblins

[ionic barn]

no M16 across the entire map (including non-static locations), imagine how i feel

[velvet egret]

yeah, B42’s rare loot setting should be more accurate compared to B41’s rare loot setting

[vague trench]

depends on where youre looking , i have been finding more axes than i would in 41

[hardy fox]

im playing with week one, and the npc i spawned in with (calling him my fiance) just spawned in a pizza, a bottle of red wine, and then romantic music started playing. i'm not even joking

maybe its not exactly romantic but when it started thats the vibe i got XD

[velvet egret]

lmao

[hardy fox]

WOW ok so theres a party

randomly spawned in, that would explain it

[velvet egret]

I’m not one for mods, but now I gotta try that one out

[hardy fox]

they killed my fiance : D

this mod def has its problems but its a really cool start

[cunning turtle]

What a romantic situation

[cunning turtle]

[hardy fox]

Mere moments before disaster

[red hazel]

I'm about to try one week. Looks interesting

[hardy fox]

its very difficult i havent gotten to day 2 yet bc of the npc's lol

[red hazel]

I also got the Authentic Z mod. Hopefully I'll see a bunch of NPCs with weird and different outfits lol

[cunning turtle]

TheFeels is feeling it

[red hazel]

Can we not open NPC inventory? At least I dont see any

[thick laurel]

When can I charge zomboids for tax evasion

[hardy fox]

not unless theyre dead

also does anyone know how to lock crafted double doors

[sturdy sequoia]

maybe with a padlock? idk if those actually do anything tbh

[hardy fox]

they did not :(

[sturdy sequoia]

sadge :c

[red hazel]

Hmmm died by cops. Started blasting random people. Didnt know it was like GTA lol

[late folio]

I agree

[velvet egret]

if you have keys to the doorknob then you should be able to lock it

padlocks are for crates if I'm not mistaken

[dawn elm]

padlocks are useless for single player until NPCs happen

[fierce mountain]

Build 43 as they will likely use the AI behaviour tree like human NPCs as those two animals will have more complex mechanics behind them.

[keen gorge]

It's in the code so technically

[hallow adder]

Thanks to both of you.

[topaz sorrel]

any updates that fix glaring issues yet?

[velvet egret]

not yet. Idt we’ll be getting a substantial hotfix/patch until late January

[brazen jetty]

so that way we'll get b42 stable in 2027?

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/thearistocats-disney-disneymovie-mariearistocats-eyeroll-gif-25975356

[frozen wyvern]

People complain about getting patches too quickly rhat break mods, people complain about getting patches too infrequently...

[digital cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986948930740813864/1321544303239102556/attachment.gif

[brazen jetty]

who cares about mods during ustable? this isn't the time

[vague trench]

theres like 70% of the community that use mods

[digital cloud]

who is using mods on unstable t

[frozen wyvern]

A lot of people

[vague trench]

a lot of people while they wait for fixes

[digital cloud]

then complaining about it i blame slow mode

[brazen jetty]

i don't think the essential mods would break under any circumstances

[frozen wyvern]

Non coder spotted

Updates break mods

[keen gorge]

Easy solution that everyone will hate

[vague trench]

yeah , if regular hotfixes can break out saves then why wouldnt a mod break?

[keen gorge]

Remove modding and nothing breaks

[frozen wyvern]

So true

[vague trench]

lol

[brazen jetty]

literally they should've disabled mods for unstable

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-gif-8371804375768347256

[frozen wyvern]

That would be lame

[vague trench]

why

[frozen wyvern]

The solution of about monthly hotfixes is fine imo

[vague trench]

mod creators deserve the right to use what is available to make their mods

[frozen wyvern]

People just need like, a small amount of patience

Also even without mods constant updates would suck

Your saves would constantly become potentially corrupted

[brazen jetty]

i hope the devs get a good amount of update if it's a monthly one

[frozen wyvern]

Id imagine they would

[brazen jetty]

because if we get the same hotfixes that we got 3 weeks ago that would be hilarious

[vague trench]

? you mean the one they sent out before holidays?

[brazen jetty]

in size i mean, less than 25 lines of changelog

[frozen wyvern]

How...would we get the same hotfixes?

[brazen jetty]

yeah

[vague trench]

They did that so people wuold be able to play without the gun jamming and the muscle strain , it was smart pr on their part

[brazen jetty]

good for them but muscle strain wasn't that bad even before the fixes

jamming too

[frozen wyvern]

I think the jamming was too much

[vague trench]

yea

[frozen wyvern]

But i do think muscle strain was a product of people not wanting to adjust playstyle

[brazen jetty]

if the game wants to be realistic, muscle strain should come after the player sleeps

[frozen wyvern]

I like that idea

[brazen jetty]

and be a really harsh one, not the one you can wait out sitting on the ground for an hour

this is like an exhausted moodle multiplied by two

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah ive had that irl before, lasted like two days after an intense workout

[brazen jetty]

exactly

so you go one day smashing everyone's head

and then you stay home, read books, watch tv, work on your car, cook etc

[vague trench]

not everyone enjoys having to do that though

[brazen jetty]

because everything hurts

[brazen jetty]

then muscle strain should be reworked in some other way or be completely removed

not everyone enjoys having to rest after 10 swings

[vague trench]

i mean people can disable it or change it to what they like

[frozen wyvern]

Personally from a gameplay stance, i dont think muscle strain adds anything new since exhaustion exisfs

Its just a second exhaustion moodle

So its not really interesting

[brazen jetty]

people can disable everything they want, but many would prefer what the vanilla game has to offer before doing that, and if they see that they can't do anything after they've swinged a knife 20 times whilist having a lvl6 strength will just make player refund the game

[vague trench]

after the hotfix i dont even notice it anymore , i like the concept before the hotfix because it made me think about how i approach fighting

[frozen wyvern]

But yeah that and the XP systsm are two things that need to be reworked for me

The current XP system is archaic by design

[brazen jetty]

they need for muscle strain to be dependent on your strength instead of a weapon skill

or be at least less dependent on your weapon skill

[vague trench]

i play with stout and its too easy a lot of the time

[frozen wyvern]

I do think weapon skill is relevant because you can think of it as training those specific muscles

I mean, yeah a lot of them overlap, but still

[brazen jetty]

but once again, they should completely rework muscle strain or remove it completely

[frozen wyvern]

I agree

[brazen jetty]

it's a cool concept, but it needs to be much more complex

[frozen wyvern]

Becomming a zombie killing badass is half the fun tho so i like leveling up

[brazen jetty]

than just beeing a second exhaustion moodle

[brazen jetty]

there are guns either way, and I think there shouldn't be a muscle strain when using guns overall

or make it so that it affects your aim much less

[vague trench]

why ?

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno ive shot a shotgun before, that kick hurts

Guns do cause strain mostly because of the recoil

[brazen jetty]

lvl 3 aiming makes me shoot 3 m9 mags and I have muscle strain

[vague trench]

yeah we have some old rifles from the 80s that are just i aint even gonna try ot shooot that

[brazen jetty]

shotguns should cause more muscle strain, because the recoil on pistols isn't that harsh

[vague trench]

what about the magnum and deagle lol

[brazen jetty]

well those are more of a cannons

[vague trench]

have you ever head a deagle theyre freaking huge

[brazen jetty]

i mean regular pistol and small revolvers

deagle and magnum should stay the same

I really hope that the devs aren't just attaching everything they've announced on their unstable roadmap but also listen to the feedback from players

because the game got so grindy and slow it makes it impossible to enjoy without fast learner trait

also the way to level up carpentry skill is interesting, but on practice it's just building the same structure that gives you the most xp until you level it

either give us at least a bit of xp when dissasambleing and boost the xp you get when building, or rework it completely

[frozen wyvern]

Well yeah balance is still wip

Its pretty bad rn but we'll see how they handle it

[brazen jetty]

we surely will

[vague trench]

as long as its nothing like 41 because i never bothered even leveling anything outside of carpentry and that was just the first 3 skills , it was just so boring

[frozen wyvern]

I mean i really dont think every skill needs 10 damn levels

[brazen jetty]

by the way, the professions should give you much more starter level than it does

there's a very good mod for that and with a few tweaks it can work really well

[frozen wyvern]

I agree, a carpenter not being able to build a proper wall is crazy

[vague trench]

i hardly ever pick a profession so i cant say anything about that

[frozen wyvern]

Same

[brazen jetty]

if I was a carpenter my whole life It wouldn't make sense I can't build a wall properly
it should have at least level 5 at the start

and have x2 multiplier from the start

[frozen wyvern]

What if canonically every survivor is 18 with limited experience

[brazen jetty]

only in case if the devs won't change the rates of leveling the skill

[brazen jetty]

very immersive honestly

[frozen wyvern]

Maybe you could choose to invest more points into your profession for a higher level

[brazen jetty]

that also might work

because there are beginner carpenters and master carpenters

makes sense

and also with every other profession

[frozen wyvern]

The problem i see is that I think TIS really wants skill levels to integrate with NPCs so you level up with them, but since thats not in the game it feels incomplete

[brazen jetty]

but honestly the whole profession system needs a rework of it's own

see ya in b43 i guess

[frozen wyvern]

Well thats in the roadmap for 42 unstable

[brazen jetty]

oh really
didn't notice it

[frozen wyvern]

Yup

Theres still a ton to come with this update

[brazen jetty]

I hope they mean something else by expanding

they didn't state that they're reworking any of it

but are "expanding" could mean lots of things

the only thing I care about in zomboid is progression

because all the struggles on the apocalypse difficulty are only high population which can be countered with molotovs

and once you get some guns and blades, find a shelter, stock up you might ask yourself "what now", as I do usually

I barely even die in this game anymore

it's a sandbox, sure, but a sandbox should have much more than a grind for resources to build and craft

vintage story did much better job at balancing and progression than zomboid did

[frozen wyvern]

Again i think what they want for the endgame is for NPCs and stuff, so its hard to say right now

But i have hope things will improve on that front

[brazen jetty]

see ya in 15 years when they get us build 47

[vague trench]

uh ok

[brazen jetty]

but seriously, there should be something to do besides this grind

[vague trench]

there is..

[brazen jetty]

why would I explore the map? there's nothing interesting besides loot in towns and basements in some houses now

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/question-mark-question-soru-işareti-wtf-what-gif-20450377

[brazen jetty]

I was even writing lore for my characters at some point until I got bored again

[frozen wyvern]

Theres like a ton of new interesting places

[brazen jetty]

there is, no doubt, but why would I go there besides loot and nice scenery?

[forest shore]

It sounds like you're just burnt out on PZ.

[brazen jetty]

70 hours as of these 3 weeks

[forest shore]

People get burnt out at different paces. Find another game to play for a few weeks/months/years. PZ will be here when you feel like picking it up again.

[brazen jetty]

yeah guess I gotta make sense of those $20 I spent on Vintage Story

[velvet egret]

[keen gorge]

The looted building setting is kinda ass

[vague trench]

the ones with everything on the floor?

[keen gorge]

I just turn it off and tune down loot to insanely rare. It doesn't make sense for buildings to be looted when there are no NPCs yet

Loot disappearing into the void just feels bad

[vague trench]

i love the prelooted buildings

i found a battery charger in one on the floor lol

[keen gorge]

I dunno

If you ask me, it doesn't give incentive to explore late game

Since at peak chance it's like, what, 1/4 chance building is looted?

[vague trench]

i think its more immersive

[keen gorge]

I don't mind if, in return for the prelooted buildings, it makes survivor homes more common as more days pass

[silk nova]

in my opinion it make more alive the world , but it shouldn't be in muldraugh and wetspoint but only in LV and brandeburg

[keen gorge]

To me, as it stands, it just pushes you more and more into the static gameplay of animal husbandry and homesteads

[silk nova]

i don't think was thinked to push u to loot more but just to make the world more "lived"

a bit like the mod barricated world

it's make the world around u just not so static

and clean

i don't like LV so clean

it's looks like nothing happen there

[keen gorge]

Eh, it doesn't feel like the world is more lived in if I encounter them as more like loot is just deleted

[knotty yew]

agreed, because if it were "lived in" the non-consumable loot would be centralized rather than just deleted. You'd have bases of people who've hoarded all the items removed from the main loot pool, more signs of post apoc habitation and whatnot that you can draw from

[silk nova]

, for me it make it, it's not possilbe that every single house or shop untouched during a zombie apocalypse

[ionic barn]

question, does deconstructing things no longer give carpentry skill xp?

[keen gorge]

No

Like, the only difference between the normal building and the prelooted building is one doesn't have anything. Nothing else changes. The same amount of zombies are still guarding both sites and whatnot

[silk nova]

who tell the looters are still in the area?

[vague trench]

you can still find things in those

[keen gorge]

I wouldn't mind if there's also a chance a prelooted building gives you clues

To point you to maybe a survivor house that has the supplies or a survivor car with a full trunk

[velvet egret]

it doesn't anymore, but you can change that in the sandbox settings

[silk nova]

that is a good idea u should suggest it on the forum

[ionic barn]

darn

thats frustrating haha

[silk nova]

i found idfferent zombie survivors with food, books and other loot

so if u think about maybe those looters just got killed

i don't like the fact i am able to create all the stations so easily

[velvet egret]

Hoodini wanting to make loot disappear? Makes sense

[knotty yew]

they don't have to be lol

just somewhere on the map probably

[keen gorge]

Read it again

[silk nova]

maybe they left the county, it's a possibility

[knotty yew]

I doubt that everyone is taking all the metal sheets, kitchenware, car battery chargers, or pipe wrenches out to canada or mexico. Let alone shipping it over seas

oh okay, so county, yeah it's a possibility but how representative would that be?

[silk nova]

that why i like the idea of hoodini in some of those looted shops can be a map of where the looters went

[knotty yew]

like out of all the survivors how many would hoof it out of the county in particular (assuming they also find out that the apocalypse is global)

[frozen wyvern]

I mean how on earth would you leave

[knotty yew]

scavenger hunt type stuff is sort of what I'm arguing for anyways

[silk nova]

i also like the idea to go to a bookshop to find the damn mag for the generator and fnd everything looted and swera a lot!

[knotty yew]

like making the world "lived in" isn't just arbitrarily making items disappear, it's simulating people taking shit, using it, and moving it around for their own needs

[silk nova]

i understood but as i said u are right on part, personally i will take some things and running far away from that area

so this doesn't require me to remain in the county

[frozen wyvern]

Id imagine TIS is waiting for NPCs to be added to really make it feel 'lived in'

[silk nova]

taht's for sure....i see those adds just as a framework for the npc update

[frozen wyvern]

Im still curious as to what NPCs will even entail...

[knotty yew]

I hope we won't just have npcs that sit around in static safezones

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno if they would work well in a permadeath environment

Its more on you if you die to a zombie, but i feel getting killed by humans would be quicker and suckier

[silk nova]

it add me thrill, i always thinked a zombie apocalypse somenthing that u gonna "adpt" at certain point while the human nature is alwyas unpredicatble

[knotty yew]

people moving around and kicking up a storm would be more interesting, having to decide whether or not to risk confrontation with another lone survivor for the sake of partnership or robbery, having to worry about being in a group's zone of control or something- all that kind of shit would be really interesting to see

[frozen wyvern]

It will be

I just hope its fun more than anything.

I dont really expect randomly generated characters to be super in depth, but when they add a campaign i will be interested in the story

[silk nova]

they ssaid somenthing abput a campaign?

[frozen wyvern]

A campaign has always been planned, Bob and Kate

[knotty yew]

tbh yeah it'll probably be kinda bs sometimes no matter the implementation, and sometimes will feel unrewarding

[frozen wyvern]

I think a campaign would work amazingly with Zomboid honeztly

[knotty yew]

I can't imagine a world where a player used to having an entire open world to themselves to fuck around in having NPCs with guns around won't ever yield unsatisfying outcomes

I just hope that the other side of that coin is at least interesting to play around with, yk?

[frozen wyvern]

Its just hard to know what to expect with such little info

But we'll get more in the coming years which is exciting

But, NPCs need to be implemented properly. None of that Week One stuff which feels super jank

[silk nova]

it's already encouraging how they gonna move in the world following a personal story

for now i just wait a good balancing in the crafting and more craftable items

[velvet egret]

even tho NPCs aren’t actively present atm, they’re still a small group of immune survivors (5% iirc) roaming around and looting like our character. I do agree that there should be an increased chance for survivor homes or safehouses with installed generators and farms as time passes on, but then those chances could plummet after the Winter season or something

[silk nova]

just also being eaten like the normal players or having their safehouses overunned

[ionic barn]

would be nice if you could make skull masks out of the different animal skeletons

[cunning turtle]

bird

[silk nova]

uh yes this is an amazing add, making a full forest tribe with those on

[hallow adder]

https://tenor.com/view/miau-cat-meow-gif-15143860405830476787

[hallow adder]

Knowing you can make skull masks out of kittens is fearful.

[dusty zephyr]

Did a walk with mine and she got bump by à car she start crawling at to finish her😭😭

[cunning turtle]

F

[glad canyon]

Any idea when the next patch will drop? Can't wait for the Multiplayer to be back

[silk nova]

i hope they gonna fix those requirements for the crafting stations, it's too easy

[gleaming perch]

Whats a renewable method of forging iron chunks