Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[lucid ginkgo]

Since 42 I've found it harder to do the OHKO stab, I keep swiping for some reason and breaking them in 2 hits because of that. Was that a change?

[keen gorge]

Yeah the stab crit seems to have been changed. Zeds seem to be able to survive them now 50% of the time

But overall, their damage has been increased to compensate for them not having their insane attack speed anymore and they probably have the best build up for weapons right now (though blunts are the current overall king due to availability)

Also anything with a sharpness value is dogshit at horde combat. They lose their sharpness (and therefore a large part of their damage) way too fast

[subtle tendon]

Where Mac update

[pallid hinge]

Holiday limbo shall be over soon™

[vague trench]

Lol exactly at midnight

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-animated-troll-trolled-gif-27617235

[granite tusk]

no more maintainence from shoving is ass

they haven't gave us any alternative way to level it up other than smacking zombies with melee

[vague trench]

We used to get maintence from shoving ?

[pallid hinge]

ye

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sit-push-go-away-leave-shove-gif-15500147

[pallid hinge]

isn't the alternative crafting now?

[vague trench]

Thats funny lmao

Peobably because we can craft weapons and stuff now ?

[granite tusk]

you still need maint skills to craft

[vague trench]

[velvet egret]

plenty of melee weapons to be found (at least on rare loot settings)

[ripe nebula]

;-;

i was 19 days in

[pallid hinge]

always backup your save!

especially on unstable branch 😦

I am sorry this happened to you, that sucks so much

[vague trench]

Lol yay hotfixes!!!

Yah my char is 28 days in and im waiting for it rofl

Want a reason to start over n change some settns

[pallid hinge]

hotfixes?

😁

[hasty dagger]

Also long blunt has always been meta just because you an trivially aquire effectivley infinite number of baseball bats.

[pallid hinge]

I have only found two bats so far - and one was like two hits away from breaking lol

[ripe nebula]

I’m trying a burglar character now

I almost always play as a repairman so I think this will be a fun change of pace

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-buzz-lightyear-walking-sad-buzz-lightyear-buzz-lightyear-sad-walking-sad-gif-10496520707331079288

[pallid hinge]

Soon™

[hasty dagger]

Are boxing gloves supposed to give zero bite resist? TBH for something that completey covers the hand in heavy padding and has so many gameplay downsides I would expect them to at least give more protection that standard leather gloves.

[vague trench]

Not sure i foubd sone once but cant remember their stats, it says 0?

[granite tusk]

looted survivor home -.-

[vague trench]

What are you wearing lol

Nice gloves!

[keen gorge]

I dunno what meta you have but if we're talking damage and efficiency, spear and long blade were always king at B41 and B40 below was the era of short blade

[velvet egret]

Happy New Year’s, everyone 🎉

[tired hill]

more like spear and axe, but I definitely remember the short blade strats from B40 😄

[hasty dagger]

I have had my pot of tainted rainwater on the grill for quite awhile... shouldnt it have become purified by now?

I have determined there is a bug where if the tainted water container is in the oven before you turn it on it never heats up.

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-fireworks-animated-text-2018-gif-10651525

[real fox]

is there a way to prevent the game from updating/only launch the exe of the game? trying to avoid update breaking my save this month if they drop an update

i know with skyrim they have a script extender that is a seperete exe launch from steam not sure if zomboid community has a feature like this

since im seeing theres no current way to select certain unstable branches in the betas tab in steam

[outer galleon]

there was a way you could do similar with the fallout 4 "next gen" update, setting a steam file to read-only and i'd assume you could do the same with zomboid?

[real fox]

ill maybe ask ecn later if ecn is on

[drifting thicket]

Can you attach flaslights to something in b42 vanilla?

[outer galleon]

i think you can set the appmanifest file in steamapps folder to read-only, zomboid's steam ID is 108600

you'll have to launch it from the .exe, but you won't get an update

yeah worked for me

[real fox]

thank you!

[pallid hinge]

You can also do this - and then launch from exe

[outer galleon]

it still tries to update after you close though, that's the problem that gets ya

[pallid hinge]

oh really? that is how I did it for Fallout4

yea it still set to pause for me even after closing

[outer galleon]

yeah the bethsoft games are weird, but read-only seemed to be okay for PZ and loaded save just fine

pz just tried updating for me when i quit, swapped to no beta while game was up

the read-only way is easy enough* and some (basic) testing seemed to show no loophole for steam to update game

[granite tusk]

just found a massive 🐣 farm at the east of echo creek
do i have to refill hay to keep them alive?

first time ever to confront animals that are in a pre existing livestock zone

i drove over wild rabbits and deers all the time -.-

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

So I haven't touched any of the animals so far that are in the farms around echo creek - and they all seem to be alive even though I have not touched their troughs

and I am 1 month 17 days in

[hearty pond]

shesh, just took a peek at the depots, that buildID is going up fast

[granite tusk]

getoutofhereyoufiltyspy

[hearty pond]

never!

[granite tusk]

ty

i'll just try to move dead bodies in their hayhouse just in case they get stressed from it

[cunning turtle]

getoutofhereyoufiltyspy

[hidden horizon]

I kill my friend with a bat

[granite tusk]

heli >:c

[pallid hinge]

[cunning turtle]

How many hours do you got playing zomboid

I see

[remote bear]

so... you're still in the 1000s?

[real fox]

👁️

[ripe nebula]

So on my new character who is a burglar I used a police siren to cheese a few extra levels of sneak and light footed. I’m at level 6 sneaking rn and I’m ngl playing a sneaky burglar and throwing hordes of zombies for a loop before going in and stealing all sorts of shit is making me feel like a 5000 IQ genius.

Instead of playing away from densely populated areas like I do when I pick the repairman class I decided that I’m gonna play around the inside of the town of Riverside where there’s shitloads of zombies

With high sneak I think this will actually work well

Stealth is so satisfying now

[tender fulcrum]

i cant believe its been an year since b42 came out

[rocky copper]

Same

And I havent showered since a year

[tender fulcrum]

same

[ornate parcel]

why so many animal trailers but like barely any actually useful trailers 😭

[rocky copper]

Yeah i noticed that too. Hopefully devs patch this next update

They got like a wikipedia page worth of bugs to fix

Also i don't understand why they didnt add fuel and liquid trailers 😭

Thought i wont need mods for trailers

[ornate parcel]

are there trailer mods yet?

[cunning turtle]

Wow i can't believe it

[hasty dagger]

my record so far 22 days 500+ kills.

died by trying to go to the mall. but it felt real cheap. I walked through a door that was broken. I could clearly see no zombies there. but as soon as I passed through it was like a horde spawned immediately next to me.

[warm ocean]

This house is in Creek, it is not a survivor house.. Its a crack den, and it always spawns the same

[granite tusk]

never known it

[warm ocean]

Its new ^^

[granite tusk]

i was just assuming it was cause i've had looted houses left to 50% :(

[granite tusk]

<3

[granite tusk]

tbh i doubt i've played for so long
most of the time i just had my game open in background

[warm ocean]

200 hour playtime = 150 hours doing exercises

[granite tusk]

10/10

there should be a auto tv channel swapper to counter boredom

[warm ocean]

I would like to see some ingame activity around the TV stations.

We have a sattelite item, maybe after you install it we should get an oppertunity to hack, and re run shows.

[remote bear]

Same tbh

[real fox]

need some help, i tried picking up a couch and mad sure to get the entire set of it but it stll wont let me place it? did it just not fully collect all the set ( made sure the ground didnt have anything left behind

no matter wher i put it its red

[silk nova]

Some of the tiles stil are not moveable it wrote on the post about the drop of the 42

[real fox]

some furniture's are technically tiles right? amkes sense

[silk nova]

Yes

[real fox]

can u link post 👁️

[real fox]

thankies :)

ill keep my eye on it

[silk nova]

I also notice few bugs with the mod prop moving the one who make not a necessity some skills to move the moveable ones

[silk nova]

For your case in the picture try to move the poece of the couch in your inventory and after place it

[silk nova]

Because it say u have only one piece of the couch the 2/2

[whole tundra]

seems like you dont have 1/2

[real fox]

Do you think since it has a 50 percent chance for it to not to be picked up it gave me partial parts?

[whole tundra]

you can also not get every part

[real fox]

i figured it just wouldnt output any part that makes sense

[lethal wolf]

You can't craft knitting needles??

[lethal wolf]

Or cook fish that are too big, I see...

[heady field]

just wondering, does everyone else playing b42 for long run on holiday (and bear with the bugs) or just testing out the new stuffs and then go back to 41 while waiting for stable 42?

[lethal wolf]

b42 forever, bugs or not, they only make me play harder

speaking of, water purified in a bucket, in an old stove, is not valid drinking water, my character is now ignoring my water leather bag

[blazing coral]

omg I just turned off that option to render UI separately and now it is rendering at 165fps like the rest of the game... GLORIOUS

[heady field]

I see, yea I been staying in 42 too..
its annoying sometime when ||bugs happeneddd|| but Im still curious of things I could explore on the new build.. also its the current game version so I gotta get used to the changes if I want to stay up to date xD

[lethal wolf]

ok a truly "gamebreaking bug" found

if you enable the option to auto-pause the game when its not active. It includes during main menu screen when loading a game. I can only alt + f4 now to try to reload my save.

[heady field]

good thing I disabled that settings lol

[lethal wolf]

I'm more worried about the water bug I just had, dont wanna die of thirst, on a lake

[heady field]

find nearby house, grab some drink from the sink

[lethal wolf]

bro

[heady field]

they added bunch water containers but still cant figure which one is usable to boil/ sterilize it

[lethal wolf]

also, the purified water in my inventory HAD tainted water tooltip even its purified. And I drank from it manually without seeing the tooltip first.

well, a race against time now when my pure water is suddenly tainted and I drank from it with Weak Stomach

[heady field]

water goes bad without a mod now?

[lethal wolf]

no, I purified a bucket of water in old stove, it said its good water on the name, but manual drink tooltip apparently says tainted, and I was wondering why my character doesnt autodrink

[heady field]

I havent survived long enough, my longest is just 1.5months survival mode

Ispent most my time exploring the new craft lol

[lethal wolf]

Also lol

[heady field]

mindblown

the game think anything on the gas can is flammable

[lethal wolf]

oh boy, I am queasy now

[heady field]

[lethal wolf]

might have survived somehow without lemongrass (lemongrass can go bad now, dont have dried or fresh available atm)

[glacial cape]

Zombie queasy or something else?

[lethal wolf]

clean drinking water queasy

or at least the possible bug that bucket of purified water didn't purify perfectly and had some sickness in it since name says clean, drinking manually tooltip says not clean

[glacial cape]

Ah should be fine with time though as long as you don't take another sip

Oh it's a bug?

[lethal wolf]

also why are pigs so difficult, they destroy my fences

[glacial cape]

Eh good luck on I'm assuming is a build 42 nature only run

[lethal wolf]

as natural as 10 truckfuls of loot before exiling myself to an island is

[glacial cape]

Lol fair enough I am curious of how far you could get though in build 42's current state

[lethal wolf]

we will see, I don't have food really left, so everything I eat is from fishing, foraging and hopefully butchering one day

any idea if sheep give leather?

[glacial cape]

Yes they do

[lethal wolf]

good because my pigs destroy every goddamn fence and wall, its pork-chopping time

[glacial cape]

Bacon time

[lethal wolf]

in fact I'm gonna hang their corpses on butchers hook as a warning to other pigs

[glacial cape]

I wonder what the intended use of keeping pigs are maybe more meat as opposed to from cows & sheep

I heard they can clear zombie corpses which is pretty grim, haven't tried it myself though

[lethal wolf]

future lard? or eating corpses indeed. Maybe they, in their infinite wisdom and stupidity could shit out knitting needles because I need one, but I am not able to craft those

[glacial cape]

Knitting needles not under carving at all?

I would think that's where it would be

[lethal wolf]

didnt find at least with search, but I hope they are

nope, not there

[glacial cape]

Strange guess your best bet is foraging

Or just searching homes

[lethal wolf]

https://i.imgflip.com/32s1te.png?a481920

oh nice my sheep just despawned

I dont think I can go on before bugfixes, I really needed those sheep <.<

well another gamebreaking bug that now ends my run: animals tied to trees will despawn in few days

just had a pig vanish entirely, too, gg wp

[rugged halo]

wow wtf insta killed insta zombified by a z hiding in a corner wtffffff

[lethal wolf]

further reloading of my save made more animals entirely vanish, so clearly, I'll be waiting a while before making a new save, bummed

[frozen wyvern]

So was there a hotfix?

[lethal wolf]

not that I know of

[frozen wyvern]

Hmmm not sure what happened with ur save then lol

[lethal wolf]

unstable happened, just not fun at all to discover a bug of this magnitude lol

so animals are pretty risky atm, and definitely do NOT tie them to trees, my chickens too (that cannot be tied) vanished 1-2 at a time on each reload

but I will admit I had 4 mods (rain clearing blood, proximity inventory, some hairstyle mod and kill count), and I had an error or two just within the last hour of gameplay - I am not above saying it could be the mods, but god fucking damn it nonetheless

[reef pecan]

I think I experienced something similar to my chickens vanishing
I had a small pen by my starting house that I kept them in and intended on raising a male chick so I could raise more chickens for food
But I went out exploring and found another animal zone with chickens and rats
When I got back to my base all my chickens were gone. Not in the coop or behind it, there were no animals in the zone

[lethal wolf]

I'll keep my save until a patch comes and fixes animals, maybe they did not vanish to the void and will happily return lol

[frozen wyvern]

Maybe just spawn the ones you lost in with debug mode lol

[lethal wolf]

Can I? I don't see the usual godmode menu with debug mode

but if thats the case, I probs will do that after some bugfixes just in case

[frozen wyvern]

Did you type in -debug correctly? Pretty sure you can right click and theres a debug option for animals

[lethal wolf]

probably forgot that launch argument part entirely since the game "kind of" makes you think you're in debug mode, seeing extra info of items, but thanks, should get this run back in action in few days after I take a small break lol

[frozen wyvern]

The game forces you in a sort of 'info' debug mode, cant do anything crazy but can see debug item names and stuff

[lethal wolf]

well either way your tip soothes me down enough, I felt pretty awful losing my animals lol

[glacial cape]

Anyone else experienced an instance of a chicken pen with only female chickens, somehow making chicks still without a male

[lucid ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/life-uh-finds-a-way-it-be-that-way-it-will-work-itself-out-gif-16077053

Don't worry, nothing bad has ever happened from raptor-based life forms evolving the ability to fertilize despite lack of males

[glacial cape]

Yes surely

[vague trench]

Lol animalocalypse

[frozen wyvern]

Messing around with debug mode, looks like racoons are already fully modeled and animated haha

[glacial cape]

There better be an orange one

[frozen wyvern]

Haha i checked, not one yet

[glacial cape]

Damn spiffo isn't real :(

[terse meteor]

i wonder why they arent in the game officially then

[frozen wyvern]

I was thinking it was because they didnt have any logic programmed yet but uhhhh

Looks like theyre coming sooner rather than later haha

[true smelt]

Have you figured out how to do this?

[hot grail]

Lots of stuff could be unfinished. Spawns, recipes for them or sounds

[frozen wyvern]

Pikmin 5 Gameplay

[hybrid frost]

Can they climb over fences like in the one picture from the blogpost?

[frozen wyvern]

You mean can they tear down large fences?

Is thats what you're asking, not yet

[hybrid frost]

No, can they climb over short fences

[frozen wyvern]

They always could

[lucid ginkgo]

I'm a fool. I thought eggs would become inert and lifeless if put in the fridge. I was wrong.

[hybrid frost]

Raccoons?

[frozen wyvern]

Oooooh huh lemme check

[vague trench]

lol i spawned a skeleton cow and removed debug and was sad

[frozen wyvern]

Haha!

[vague trench]

lmao omg i cant wait for them to be added hahah

[lucid ginkgo]

Damnit that discord sound confused the hell out of me

[frozen wyvern]

Haha oops

[cunning turtle]

[frozen wyvern]

On another topic< I think if they want PZ's lighting to look REALLY good they have to find a way to stop using vertex lighting so much

And also better shadows, was just messing around with the character falling from high up, and even when midair they still have that circular shadow at their feet

[vague trench]

vetex lighting?

[frozen wyvern]

So notice how when you use a flashlight, the points on the ground that get lit up look more blocky and square rather than being a straight cone of light?

[late folio]

I love that

[frozen wyvern]

Thats vertex lighting, wheras the other approach is pixel lighting which has a lot more control and visual fidelity

[valid escarp]

hopefully they apply the new smooth cone vision to the lightning as well

[frozen wyvern]

Exactly

[valid escarp]

lighting

[opaque schooner]

RACCOON

[frozen wyvern]

Of course pixel lighting is more computationally expensive but nontheless it would be a MASSIVE leap forward for making PZ look better

That and proper shadows (or at least a better shadow solution to just the basic circular shadows at the entities feet)

The lighting rework we got is GREAT but that focuses more on ambient lighting

[edgy kiln]

its not vertex lighting its just tile lighting

[vague trench]

i love the lighting on the vans at night its so PRETTY

[frozen wyvern]

I suppose, but it's pretty darn similar

[cosmic yoke]

If they're adding raccoons then I also hope that cats are somewhere in the near(in pz time) future? Esp since they added in a shit ton of cat items like toys and treats

Literally if cats or dogs get added I will die happy

[frozen wyvern]

Haha maybe!

Dogs would be interesting because according to the lore they seem to have some sort of special interraction with the virus

They're mentioned specifically a lot in radio broadcasts

[cosmic yoke]

Oh really?

I've only been playing for about a year so I'm less knowledgeable about the Lore

[vague trench]

i want a donkey!!!

like i dont knw what it we be used for but DONKEY

[cosmic yoke]

Horses as a car alternative.....

I would KILL for that

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-horse-gif-10664029143539029928

[frozen wyvern]

I feel like horses are wanted enoguh that down the line I feel like they'll be added, but I don't expect them ANYTHIME soon

[vague trench]

would be fun for a pack animal like to help move logs or corpses or something as long as its not op

[cosmic yoke]

Peak

[frozen wyvern]

I mean I'm not a farmer but didn't people back in the day attatch logs and stuff to oxen for transport? Would bulls and cows work instead?

[vague trench]

yes but im gonna be a baby and cry for donkey

[frozen wyvern]

Fair enough 🐴

[keen gorge]

They work

It's not popular because you're sacrificing milk production and other things for it

[vague trench]

i wouldnt mind a bull either lol

ok but when can we have minature jersey cows

[keen gorge]

Also a bull is hella more temperamental than an ox

[frozen wyvern]

Cute hamburger

[lethal wolf]

speaking of, I managed to spawn the animals back, now my ram is actually killing me and destroying everything I build

[keen gorge]

Kill him and turn him into stew

[lethal wolf]

hell no, them despawning permanently (thank goodness for Paddlefruit and debug cheats) almost ended my run

but apparently the animals do not like when you murder a pig

[keen gorge]

They started a union

They're about to go Animal Farm on you

[frozen wyvern]

Damn it i was about to reference Animal Farm too 😂

[lethal wolf]

well CLEARLY wood is not a good material for a farm, but I ain't gonna just get metal either

they want roofed areas? then stop fucking breaking everything I make

dont really have wire from fishing nets recipe so I can't exactly make barbed wire

[vague trench]

ahahah

[lethal wolf]

ok my ram broke half of my only tent, I'm just gonna....go cry in a corner

[frozen wyvern]

Is the animal stressed?

[lethal wolf]

yes, I killed 2 pigs near it

[frozen wyvern]

Welp thatll do it lol

[lethal wolf]

petting doesn't remove post traumatic stress disorder either xD

I think this run is over, I need to git gud and expect even more realism than I thought

[regal spindle]

my save thumbnail goes hard

[frozen wyvern]

I take my chickens away from the others before butchering and killing haha

[frozen wyvern]

That AURA

[lethal wolf]

yeah, its pretty obvious but eh, I'll just fine tune a new character and next "wilderness" survival will happen near ROAD ACCESS, a ranch, maybe McCoy Estate or other locations if I can think any

[frozen wyvern]

Id love to make a base at McCoy estate

There are more POIs i need to visit tho, like the airport and speedway

I need to find that camper van first tho...

[lethal wolf]

at least theres a b42 map made by someone, can easily check if there's another similar location I'd love

[hybrid frost]

Is there any chance we get a patch today? I'm really hoping the battery thing gets fixed soon

[lethal wolf]

any idea if fitness/STR starter level exp boost works in b42?

[opaque schooner]

That base location is sick

[frozen wyvern]

Its new years so i wouldnt so so haha

Give it a few days

[lethal wolf]

fear of blood surely isn't a dealbreaker when you try to live at a lake

[glacial cape]

its manageable with smoker but you can't take athletic with smoker & taking fear of blood on its own isn't worth it as losing stress easily isn't the best and when you're out and about and aren't near a large source of water to wash yourself it gets pretty annoying with the melee debuff

trust me I took fear of blood in my current run and I am almost 3 months in and I regret taking it without smoker

plus cigarettes are rarer now and smoker is only an extra +2 points

[reef pecan]

Fear of blood gives a melee debuff?

[lethal wolf]

hmm well, I just wanna tune my character a bit and I really don't wanna start this with +1 point but I don't want Speed Demon either, so I took Fear of Blood for +5 points so I get 6 instead

[blazing mirage]

How do u water animal on trough. Especially the metal one

[real fox]

LMFAOOO!????

[worthy elbow]

Guys, I found a map annotated between Ekron and Echo Creek and I can't find where it is, can you help me?

[pallid hinge]

screen shot and show us 🙂

[glacial cape]

yes from the stress you generate from being stressed

[worthy elbow]

I noticed that there are some trailers, two small restaurants and two community buildings and it is close to a highway...

[blazing mirage]

It's Louisville eastern side. As far as I remember.

[worthy elbow]

Tks! ❤️

[blazing mirage]

How to water animal?

[cunning turtle]

Blud got good memory

[pallid hinge]

fill a trough with water

[blazing mirage]

Rocket make memorize lot of stuff.

[blazing mirage]

How.. no option

I have metal trough

[worthy elbow]

Found it! TKS!!

[lethal wolf]

4 points to spend on a forest dweller character, which one would you take?

[reef pecan]

Right click
Hover over the feeding trough and there’ll be an option for water

[reef pecan]

Organized

[lethal wolf]

even on a low STR character?

[reef pecan]

I just always take organized

[lethal wolf]

considering my tendency to hoard, also probs very good

[reef pecan]

Remember
It’s only junk if you leave it behind

[frozen wyvern]

Organized is the best out of all those options

[lethal wolf]

angler is tempting because fishing really is good

organized is awesome for long looting trips far from giga-lake I found on b42 map...

[blazing mirage]

I have a cooking pot full of water, and a metal trough but no option. Do I need a bucket 🪣

[frozen wyvern]

Does the trough have an option saying transfer liquids?

[reef pecan]

No

[pallid hinge]

pretty sure I did it with a pot

[reef pecan]

It’ll work with any container

[pallid hinge]

it keeps being refilled via raining so I haven't done it in forever

[blazing mirage]

Ok so in echo creek i guess one of the residential sheep 🐑 two metal trough is bugged which in on the huge open field next to two house.

Aaaah so if you drop a cooking pot with water on the ground inside animal zone. Zone shows it has water.

[cunning turtle]

Luna after fame pov

[ornate parcel]

Imma say what we’re all thinking
Dogs > Cats

[keen gorge]

Close up cats good, side horse better

https://tenor.com/view/färd-pferd-horse-pferdegesicht-horseface-gif-3528284947006317144

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-3582636889477244599

This right here is top tier QoL addition

[ornate parcel]

Cats are too anti social man

[pallid hinge]

they really aren't lol

[ornate parcel]

Mf acts like it’s their own house and they don’t pay rent

[pallid hinge]

that's the neat part, they do own the house 🙂

[keen gorge]

All animals deserve to be pet, enough said

[pallid hinge]

"cats are anti social" mean while my cats https://i.imgur.com/9sx6mDT.jpg

[pallid hinge]

this tbh

[ornate parcel]

Okay the breed top right is special, I love that cat breed

[keen gorge]

Headpats and scratches for all

[glacial cape]

@regal spindle idk if you;ve found any of these machinery but there's a metal bandsaw which has similar recipes to the ones we see in the metalworking(welding) crafting tab in the crafting menu have you tested these if they give welding xp yet I could test if you want

[regal spindle]

Think I saw one around but I couldn't steal it and take it home so uh.. I left it

[ornate parcel]

Not cats 🗣️

[ripe nebula]

I feel like I’d rather have gotten a character who’s better at combat than my current burglar character. Sneaking doesn’t really seem as good as just murdering everything.

[regal spindle]

I did build a flashlight on a stick for my outdoor forge and found myself unable to turn it on

[pallid hinge]

https://i.imgur.com/Hu7SwuY.jpeg

[glacial cape]

Yeah me neither I'm gonna test one for welding xp because its not a waste of propane

[ripe nebula]

Sneaking is good but I’m 12 days in and have killed 400 zombies currently living in the middle of Riverside sleeping in my car with the window against a wall so zombies can’t merc me in my sleep

[pallid hinge]

Maincoone tabby mix 🙂

[ripe nebula]

Increased zombie population is actually pretty manageable with a place to retreat to and some weapons to kill them with

[regal spindle]

Anyone else find the wooden flashlight pillar nonfunctional?

[glacial cape]

I don't know I never make the flashlight pillar's I prefer the floodlights you can find in hardware stores

[spare breach]

a flashlight on a stick

[glacial cape]

doesn't look like the machinery like the metal bandsaw gives welding xp

[spare breach]

you mean the yellow light tower?

[glacial cape]

still a good way to save propane though

[regal spindle]

No I mean one of these bad boys

[real fox]

Yessss

[spare breach]

ok damn, ok idk about that one

[regal spindle]

it's the premier lighting option for when you don't have anything better

[glacial cape]

Do you have a battery for it?

[regal spindle]

I got a battery onhand, I just can't seem to interact with it

[glacial cape]

maybe its weird like the screwdriver so if its favourited it doesn't let you use it

[regal spindle]

there's just no way to put a battery into it? just asking if anyone else has this issue

[glacial cape]

or its a full battery you need

[regal spindle]

I got a full battery

right click menu just doesn't have a way to put it in, bit unsure if it's me, a mod, or the base game doing this

just seeing if anyone else can build one and see if it does this too

[pine oracle]

can you even calm an agitated bull from a trailer

[regal spindle]

cool, filling a trough from a wooden bucket deleted the bucket

[gleaming perch]

Report it on forums

[regal spindle]

I'd need to replicate it in vanilla first, yanno, just in case

speaking of lets kill all my mods and see if that has anything to do with that light post

yeah I still don't know how to battery it up

[real fox]

Time to nap to this

https://youtu.be/-wPg1tNEWmo?si=j0W0XLGiHCf-QKzH

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[woven beacon]

Si

[ripe nebula]

How do you level electrical? I forgor

[pallid hinge]

dismantle watches, tvs and payphones ect

definitely recommend starting with watches though

[ripe nebula]

Thanks

I’ve given up on ever finding a generator magazine in B42

[frozen wyvern]

But you gotta make sure you have the skill book tho bc if not yohre going to need 3x as many watches

[pallid hinge]

to me it is basically a race to what I find first in the run, if I find electrical 1 book firs then I am good, if I find genny mag first then I am good 🙂

still always want electrical 1 book though cause of hot wiring

[cosmic yoke]

was trying to clear out this cool are west of echo creek because i had a car break down over there. was like wow this place has a lot of zombies ! open up the b42 map to find out id been raiding guns unlimited w nothing but a hammer and 1 shotgun this whole time

[pallid hinge]

🤣

https://tenor.com/view/they-dont-stop-coming-rap-all-star-gif-14395546

literally been out here slaying zombies for days irl and have not even touched the loot yet

[cosmic yoke]

no fucking wonder my game was turning into stopmotion every time i went close to the buildings 😭 i cleared probably about 300 zombies b4 i took pity on my poor, terrified character and had her go home

literally there's SO many. place was hopping

[pallid hinge]

I am at 1700 kills - and 700 of those are from Guns Unlimited alone

from what I have heard the loot in it isn't even worth it lol

[keen gorge]

I mean you can probably do some tweaking on that setting on zombie population affecting quality of loot so that Guns Unlimited becomes worth it

[pallid hinge]

not if I am playing apoc 🙂

[keen gorge]

But at default? Too many zeds, not enough ammo as loot

[pallid hinge]

yarr

I was able to get into the storage area for a quick sec and found 5 boxes of shotgun shells, I plan on using those to hopefully make a push at the army surplus store so I can maybe get more ammo so that I can snowball a bit

just hoping I can get into the main sales floor soon (been inside but walked away cause of a flood of zombies)

if nothing else though I am leveling weapon skills and maintenance

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah zombie heatmap placement is overall good, but intensity is WAY overblown

[keen gorge]

Army surplus is mainly valuable for me for its camping supplies moreso than its guns. It doesn't have a lot of ammo boxes

[frozen wyvern]

Like you go to a gas station and there are like 200 zombies there, it doesnt feel possible for solo play

[pallid hinge]

only other place I can think of for ammo outside of like mauldrugh PD and West Point gun store to go would be fallas lake

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah its hard to actually use guns since theres such little ammo and so many zombies

[keen gorge]

There's that remote gunstore near Ekron

[pallid hinge]

prison is gonna be super over run, rosewood's pd used to be pretty lack luster

this one?

[keen gorge]

Very safe, it has very few zeds

[pallid hinge]

I hit it already, it didn't really have much

some ammo, but not a whole lot, and not a lot for guns that I have (9mm, shotgun, and a worn M14)

[keen gorge]

Fallas also doesn't have a lot of ammo

[frozen wyvern]

Ammo distribution just seems overall lackluster

[keen gorge]

When its annonated map spawns in, the apartment complex at March Ridge is still pretty top tier

[frozen wyvern]

I went there without the map and it just had boring loot, was that a mistake?

[pallid hinge]

nah, when you get an annotated it refreshed the loot tables

[keen gorge]

At B41 it should "reload" if you read the annonated map

[frozen wyvern]

Hmmmmmm ok

[keen gorge]

Not sure if they changed that for B42

[pallid hinge]

so unless you dismantled everything it should be fine

That is a good question actually, I haven't tested that in B42

[frozen wyvern]

Craftable ammo would be fun, although that sounds more like a mod thing haha

[keen gorge]

You can, it's pretty easy

[frozen wyvern]

Actually?

[keen gorge]

The hard part of crafting ammo irl is making sure its sturdy enough to not explode when you pull the trigger

[frozen wyvern]

I think the sawed off JS2000 is my fav gun for this build so i want to amass shells

[frozen wyvern]

New way to prank friends in this game, give them crappy ammo and let it blow up in their faces

[bright glade]

imagine having to forage for sulfur to make gunpowder in future updates

[keen gorge]

In gunsmithing, the real bottleneck for ammo crafting is more often than not brass

[bright glade]

(I forgot the other materials to make gunpowder)

[keen gorge]

The lead is pretty easy, the primer and the gunpowder as well

But brass is pretty hard to manufacture small scale

[frozen wyvern]

I see, would it have to be brass or would using the metal we find in game be theoretically possible

[pallid hinge]

the brass is technically reusable

I grew up in a fishing/hunting town and a lot of friend's parents had a setup to do it

[frozen wyvern]

So keeping the shells would be a strategy

[keen gorge]

Yeah you can also reload the fired brass, that also works

[frozen wyvern]

Not a gun guy, couldnt you just attatch some sort of catcher to the gun so it expels the used shells into it?

[pallid hinge]

catchers are a thing yea

donno how common they would be in '93

[keen gorge]

It gets heavy real quick for me

[pallid hinge]

yea I can imagine

[bright glade]

plus it could probably jam the gun if you don't take it off after it fills

[frozen wyvern]

Those are interesting interactions that would be fun for PZ imo

[keen gorge]

Aside from brass, you can also cast bullets using copper, zinc, some tin alloys, etc. I know some madlads who also use aluminum for their bullets

But the problem with some of these is they get hard to shape because of their melting points

But yeah brass bullets are the gold standard. They're the most reliable out of any other metals or alloys

[bright glade]

brass has been used for a very long time too, well before that they packed gunpowder and metal balls in cloth or paper and loaded that in guns

would be handy if we could craft very rudimentary guns like that, just like a metal pipe that was casted from the forge and then modified to be a musket of sorts

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/eoka-hit-tyrnhoz-gif-16583197443308981112

We gonna be running around with eokas like in rust lol

[bright glade]

I'd have an option to pack gunpowder and as much metal balls as you want into a thing of cloth or paper as well as the option to just pour the gunpowder into the gun

as for a craftable musket sort of weapon, the main benefit would be to load it with as much shrapnel as possible to hit as many of those undead freaks as you can

since well, you can load a single projectile in there if you want a more accurate thing, but with it being unrifled, it ain't going to hit much of anything at all

plus it's going to have the longest reload out of any gun

and be tremendously loud

[bright glade]

incredibly unlucky that thing hasn't gone off yet, bad eoka luck..

[pallid hinge]

story of my life with those things

[bright glade]

we all know the struggle

[keen gorge]

Imagine your gun just breaks apart in the middle of the horde and now you're just

https://tenor.com/view/xdefiant-ubisoft-gun-mdr-fps-gif-8669941511979637318

It should happen. TIS put that in

[bright glade]

it doubles as a melee weapon when it doesn't work, bayonet charge 'em

[keen gorge]

You'd be surprised how many guns have some minor manufacturing defects. I've seen multiple guns jam because there was something wrong with the feeding mechanism

Its a quick fix but more often requires you to disassemble the gun because the bullet got trapped or something

[cosmic yoke]

genuinely, how are you supposed to level up trapping ? my character can't do shit bc she cant find the recipe book for crate traps

[bright glade]

there are some tv episodes on life and living that give you levels in trapping and teaches you certain recipes

if you're interested in it that way

[cosmic yoke]

im like a month in so that's not an option for this run unfortunately :(

[frozen wyvern]

Try looking for some VHS reruns!

[bright glade]

well there is also the vhs tapes, but yeah, you might as well go through with learning the recipes yourself

with skill books

because the vhs tapes require a generator and gas

and the generator skill book or level 3 in electricity

[keen gorge]

VHS has some recipes, otherwise you're gonna need to go zed hunting or gun store looting

[cosmic yoke]

my character does have a generator w gas, so i might have to go searching for recipes n vhs again

[keen gorge]

You're specifically gonna need to hunt for survivor zeds since they often spawn with magazines that teach recipes

[bright glade]

also if you're searching for the vhs tapes, the life and living episode tapes tell you the subject of the episode, like the trapping episode

[worthy elbow]

Guys, how do I get light in the basement? Do I have to put a generator down there?

[bright glade]

bugged

can't get electricity down there yet

but you can connect batteries to lamps if you have a high enough electrical skill

level 5 electrical

(iirc it's level 5 for b41, unsure if changed)

[vague trench]

lol winter is coming there is SOO MANY

[gilded girder]

ing

[worthy elbow]

Tks

[pallid hinge]

[round cipher]

what happened to rip a rope sheet from clothes?

[lucid ginkgo]

Happy one month to my guy...now if I could just figure out how to gain weight.

Also does repairing holes not give tailoring experience anymore? 😬

[reef pecan]

Ngl as someone who is admittedly a fan of civilization type videos (as in “I got 100 players to simulate civilization in [insert any game here]”) I wonder if there could be potential with some of the newer cities to PZ and older ones

Main one I can think of right now is Ekron/the city north of ekron as one territory and Louisville being the other

[pallid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jywZ5Y1x1TQ

[ornate laurel]

hell, even during WW1 one of the big issues with those classic American Trench Guns was that they still used paper cartridges

[ornate laurel]

Build 42 best weight gain method is finding a cow/sheep with a baby, milking them, and churning the milk into butter

[lucid ginkgo]

I do have a male and female pig, just waiting on them to get busy

[ornate laurel]

can't milk pigs

[lucid ginkgo]

Sorry, meant sheep

Though I do also have pigs lol

[ornate laurel]

Heh

i recommend keeping a hold of as many "Griddle Pans" and "empty pans" you can find to make stir-fry and Roasts respectively.

you can add Butter to them as "seasoning"

also adding more ewes means more milk/day once they get pregneant and the baby comes out

[rocky copper]

yeah losing weight is a constant issue this build

just get a bucket, go to a cow farm and milk cows, then make the new construct that turn that milk into butter, from 10 liters of cow milk (which you can get from 2 cows) you can make 20 butters, 1 butter can up you 2kgs so its pretty good considering what it is

you dont have to fight since most cows are in areas without zombies

[vague trench]

lmao pig milk

[lucid ginkgo]

For some reason (or maybe it's not weird, I don't know how animal area spawns work), every farm I've encountered has been sheep or pig

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-yummers-gif-730693117818784194

[vague trench]

lmao

[round current]

Second definition for the word “pilk”

[ornate laurel]

damnit now i want to know what the breeding seasons are for all the livestock lmao

[lucid ginkgo]

oh right seasons...I disabled them for crops, wonder if that disables them for animals too

[ornate laurel]

Nope Animal Breeding seasons are a distinct setting

[vague trench]

does that help with the weird farming stuff ?

or did you mean animals cause i cannot read lmao

[lucid ginkgo]

It just means I can plant whatever, whenever.

[vague trench]

have we always been able to put those on tables?

[pallid hinge]

Don't think so

[bright glade]

I'll test this in b41

brb

[vague trench]

finally can box fort

[keen gorge]

Water pumps are the new wells of B42

Unlimited, untainted water

[vague trench]

the pusher ones?!

[ripe nebula]

Are rats milkable?

Can we make rat milk cheese?

[vague trench]

lol rat dairy farm

[pallid hinge]

if they aren't someone needs to make a mod 🤣

[subtle tendon]

when is crawling coming to pz

being able to crawl under a bed would be so peak

[ripe nebula]

I rlly just want a mod that lets you stuff small animals into containers of reasonable size

[vague trench]

lol

[subtle tendon]

like my pockets 😈

[ripe nebula]

So if I see a rat I can just put it into my backpack to have a friend

[vague trench]

i wouldnt mind a carrier of some sort for babies

[ripe nebula]

The mod should let animals eat food and drink water that’s in the backpack

[subtle tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/link-counsciousness-gif-13187339

quite literally the devs and the community

[ripe nebula]

I just wanna yoink all the rats and put them into the friend bag

[vague trench]

lol i had a backpack in 41 that would randomly eat ur shit

[ripe nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-thosewhoknow-brainrot-gif-4030680389145707506

[subtle tendon]

microwave the baby chick

[ripe nebula]

I wonder if we can’t put animals into containers because the devs didnt want to code animals being microwaved

[vague trench]

i tried putting them on broke glass when i first played

[reef pecan]

Probably first mod I’m going to get when b42 officially comes out

[ripe nebula]

EVIIIL

[vague trench]

lol

[ripe nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-sponge-bob-mermaid-man-mermaid-man-gif-5477357

[vague trench]

they have chicken boots on its fione

[bright glade]

science completed, you can put boxes on tables in b41

[vague trench]

noice lol

thanks lol

[pallid hinge]

good to know!

[bright glade]

https://tenor.com/view/good-lad-demoflower-it-is-gif-22252469

yer welcome

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-hands-in-team-teamwork-gif-13261612

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-cheer-gif-gif-11382779725001525207

[granite tusk]

meow

[subtle tendon]

CRAWLING UPDATE WHEN

if zombies can do it i can too

[pallid hinge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3389681552 Enjoy.

[subtle tendon]

o

[vague trench]

yeah i wanna crawl inside a gutted cow and moo

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-i-thought-they-smelled-bad-on-the-outside-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-tauntaun-gif-24877465

finally see a live rat 😁

[vague trench]

lol yay finally ecn!!

i keep running over them on accident lol

[pallid hinge]

actually insane it has taken this long lol

yea I only ever saw the one I accidently ran over 😦

[vague trench]

how long are you into the game now?

rofl

[pallid hinge]

1 month 15 days - I took a break cause I was really sick 😦

[vague trench]

irl or ingame?

[pallid hinge]

irl

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-better-get-well-chicken-soup-gif-15937041

there , you take care of yourself YOU HEAR

[pallid hinge]

😸

[cunning turtle]

o

[pallid hinge]

Feeling mostly better now, the worst of it was christmas day

[vague trench]

awh man that sucks! on chrithmith thats supposed to be loaf lax day

[pallid hinge]

Yeee

ooo

for us glasses wearing folks

oh gosh it burns through filters quick

[vague trench]

with the stinkers?

[pallid hinge]

let me test

I know it removes the stinky

I will see if it is slower when stink isn't around

ok looks like it is stink based

it's not moving when I am free of the dead zom zoms

[vague trench]

awesom lol

i wish there was ones that was comfy to wear , would be cool just to wear around

[pallid hinge]

yee that would be neat 🙂

I am sure there will be mods that do that, or just remove discomfort on them all together

[real fox]

Now that your recovering I just got sick 😹

[pallid hinge]

Booo! That sucks 😦

Hopefully it is over quick

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-goodday-hi-cute-kawaii-gif-5182462

[pallid hinge]

So I have finally been able to make dashes into guns unlimited, collect a few things before it gets dicey and get out - literal loot and scoots

I was able to get my hands on another M9, a Deagle, and I saw a MSR700 but I wasn't able to loot it

also 4 more boxes of shotgun shells, which is pretty sick

[vague trench]

finally tried a shotgun a fwe days ago they are fun lol

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-eagle-my-beloved-desert-eagle-gif-16087775837188784833

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[vague trench]

😆

[pallid hinge]

Apparently I can't eat dry dog food without it being in a recipe?

lol

[real fox]

you can add it too a stir fry i think lmfao or stew

[opaque schooner]

I would love a dog food stir fry

[pallid hinge]

purrfect

[real fox]

anything dried requires it to be stewed or fried or something haha

i made stir fried dog food and eggs once 🤮

[slim merlin]

yummers

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-eating-gif-19824903

[real fox]

This is so cute

[pallid hinge]

one day I hope we can domesticate racoons and they can just hangout like this

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/mobbed-raccoons-raccoon-sausages-man-gif-19231249

[vague trench]

lol does the eggs thing containers are hatchers ?

[real fox]

Yeeee if you don’t cook them long enough they have a percent chance to become fertilized eggs

[pallid hinge]

so these eggs I have in my pocket might turn in to chickens

eggcellent

[real fox]

DARK GREEN RUG

https://tenor.com/view/anime-grabby-hands-gimme-give-me-gif-15965138

[vague trench]

lmao the best RUG EVER

also its not even green wth , its clearly clitter n sparkle farts

[pallid hinge]

Oh sick, I found a magnum in the house next to the shooting range lol

[vague trench]

oh wow lol thats good to know

i like the magnum , its so loud!!!

[pallid hinge]

now I can channel my inner (TV version) rick grimes

[real fox]

i found one earlier too never used it before

OH WAIT @cunning turtle I FINALLY FOUND A SHOTGUN

[pallid hinge]

!

You have two of them shotties 🙂

[real fox]

any benefit of making one a sawed off one?

[pallid hinge]

lower weight, larger spread, lower range, higher accuracy if I recall correctly

[vague trench]

theres a baby chicken in there somewhere lol

[real fox]

found a bag of candy

[pallid hinge]

that must have taken some serious effort to do (the umbrella)

[red hazel]

I saw the same with bolt cutters lol

[pallid hinge]

😍 I love that the lollipop has an animation now!

[pallid hinge]

loool that is wild

[real fox]

same for mints :_

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-will-ferrell-beautiful-its-beautiful-wonderful-gif-3547414

[vague trench]

i want candy

[pallid hinge]

A) I finally found a rubber duck B) Rubber Duck has it's own Category

[vague trench]

duck

[pallid hinge]

2k kills 🙂

[woven beacon]

Guns too, ammo and guns

[cunning turtle]

Omgg finally claps

[ripe nebula]

is this build okay?

I feel like it's kinda weak

[pallid hinge]

I mean it is fine but I would go with underweight instead of overweight, I would never recommend sunday driver and I would recommend a profession that gives an affinity to a weapon over burglar - but that is all subjective and you can do what you want

learning to hotwire isn't that bad really - and there are enough cars at the start of the game that already have keys that it shouldn't be too much of an issue

[severe egret]

Yeah actually finding the keys to vehicles is much easier than in b41.

[pallid hinge]

even in B41 it felt super easy, it is even easier now haha

especially with all the zombies who have keys, and keys in houses being bumped up

[severe egret]

Really? I always found that most cars didnt even have keys 😅

[pallid hinge]

yea it was totally a non-issue most of the time - the only time I ever had an issue was when I would turn the car spawns down super low

[keen gorge]

Key spawning seems overtuned imo

[pallid hinge]

even then I didn't really find that it was an issue, more just drew things out a bit

[ripe nebula]

The decreased fitness is so bad 😭

[keen gorge]

I get that some zeds have keys on them but imagine 3 of them having the same exact key to the car

[ripe nebula]

I’ve really felt the having four levels in fitness instead of five

[subtle tendon]

its new years where is mac update

[frozen wyvern]

Did you think that the second the new year happened they would release a hotfix

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[keen gorge]

It's been 1 year, where's the patch

[pallid hinge]

no patches this year, dead game

[frozen wyvern]

It is by definition a dead game

[pallid hinge]

[real fox]

i got bit

[frozen wyvern]

[pallid hinge]

noooooo

[real fox]

i struggle jumping over windows in panic i think

what got me basically

[keen gorge]

Bite them back

[real fox]

i think i have a issue holding e long enough when i panic in combat or right clicking fast enough

[pallid hinge]

😿

[subtle tendon]

yes

[severe egret]

Lmao for real, panic does not need to exist in game for some people. My panic as the player translates directly into enough panic for my character on its own, without a status harming moodle

[vague trench]

Man thatbhappened to me on my first mo th lol i could t jump out window my char just freakingg stood there lmao

[severe egret]

Last time for me it was trying to get some boots off a corpse with 3 zombros getting closer. Had more than enough time but just could not get it done.. really wanted those boots 😂

[vague trench]

I lost ny white cowboy hat doing something similar

[dusky sand]

is the infinite wilderness in the current unstable branch? because i've hit a black void and now my character is locked up

[velvet egret]

fr. Haven’t heard from TIGS for over a year

they’re probably in their bunker somewhere in Kentucky

[real fox]

gonna try a different character style this time

[vague trench]

[cunning turtle]

Xdn't

[real fox]

my build for this character

[cunning turtle]

You found a shotgun in your last character, what's your goal now

[real fox]

well they died LMFAO

[cunning turtle]

F

[real fox]

i might make the fire department this time my base

[frozen wyvern]

That starter house you spawned in is a great base in itself tbh

Just far enough away to be mostly free of zombies but close enough to big areas for looting

[granite tusk]

2.5x feels like 8x b41 pop now

:c

[frozen wyvern]

Well the baseline for zombie pop is 0.65ish now so makes sense haha

[cunning turtle]

c:<

[severe egret]

This is legit our current spawn too. Crazy. Was immediately won over by the kitchen style and got lucky with a basement spawn too

Oh, that basement might even be a fixed one by the looks

[ripe nebula]

Is making a fire the same as B41?

I can’t figure out how to make a fire to cook and boil water on now that the power is off

[cunning turtle]

F

[ornate parcel]

[blazing coral]

kinda, building the campfire is done via the build menu now and takes 3 stones

after that it is pretty much the same

[ripe nebula]

Thanks

[upbeat leaf]

surprisingly more difficult than it used to be, just getting ahold of 3 stones

[blazing coral]

you can forage the roads or grab them directly via right-click when you see the sprite on the ground

[ripe nebula]

I had no idea I could pick up stones from the ground with right click. Thank you so much! I spent a few hours foraging and only found one stone so this helps a lot.

[upbeat leaf]

ive tried to do that but i might have my steam deck controls configured wrong

[ornate parcel]

What's steel wool used for?

[blazing coral]

It's very finicky even on mouse

I see now. You have to click the actual sprite and not the tile it's on.

[glacial cape]

Damn when I see mods like these it makes me wanna play with mods so bad xd
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3393821407

[upbeat leaf]

does it seem to work on most of those sprites that youd think it would work on?

[fluid panther]

anyone knows how to breed animals?

[blazing coral]

yes, except for garbage ones. Also the tree stumps don't work either iirc

[blazing coral]

I miss having vehicle modifications 😭 5 roadkill rabbits and my hood is gone everytime

[glacial cape]

True hopefully we'll get armored vehicles soon

[red hazel]

I need my armored skyline back

[red hazel]

There is someone who made a bunch of vehicles that can be armored with steel sheets. Looks like he haven't updated them for B42 yet sadly

[blazing coral]

I wonder how it'll fit the plans for the "nu-medieval" theme they've going. Having vehicles long term would require some way of producing fuel, and machine parts.

[glacial cape]

If we're getting horses I wonder if eventually vehicles and the machinery will decay

[red hazel]

I want a bike with a little basket in the front lol

[blazing coral]

I hope not. I'd like to mad max the apocalypse

[glacial cape]

If that is the case I'd imagine some form of mod or sandbox option to prevent it because I know how much people love their cars

[blazing coral]

but I really don't see it decaying irreversably in vanilla either. They are introducing working machinery already (I think the bandsaw is one that works in current build). I'd find it odd to devote dev time to a feature that gets inaccessible during late-game. Specially with late-game being the focus of b42

[glacial cape]

Mainly because I don't see the point of horses in pz when we have cars

[glacial cape]

Not lategame but after you've survived years into a run or for long last multiplayer servers

[blazing coral]

1. less noise (hopefully) 2. the skills required can also be used for other animals 3. you get to look like a cowboy

4. (and most important) you don't ruin your hood and engine running over damn rabbits on the highway

I NEED IT

[wet timber]

They been showing armored cars on thursdoids back in a day tho it was only a rendered concept

[blazing coral]

[wet timber]

Yes i’m drubk

[ripe nebula]

22 days in and this is the first meal i've actually cooked

The hotel in Riverside seems like a good place to live

Any advice on how to find the materials for making spears? Spears were my favorite weapon class in B41 and idk where to look for the stuff to make them with now.

[blazing coral]

if you click the ❔ icon you can see what items can be turned into a spear. Then you can type the name of the item and filter by output item on the recipes

[ripe nebula]

Thanks!

[blazing coral]

and for attaching things you don't need to make a spear first. Recipes are under "weaponry"

[ripe nebula]

Seems like spears were nerfed by making the materials rarer and idk if that’s a good change since they already break pretty quickly

[red hazel]

I've been trying out spears and they lack so much. Even the range sucks. I can swing further with a baseball bat lol

[ripe nebula]

Mfw spears were too good and so they got nerfed way too hard

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

Hopefully they get buffed a little as B42 development goes on

It would be nice if you could carve out long wooden sticks or rods to use for spears

[reef pecan]

Hey has anyone found other backpacks in b42 other than duffel bags and small backpacks?

[red hazel]

Yea, there are a few more

[red hazel]

metal rods with pointy tips as a spear would be dope. Sounds so much better than a kitchen knife ducktaped to a stick lol

[cunning turtle]

How it was nerfed

[real fox]

thoughts on inconspicuous in build 42 while playing most of apocs defalt settings?

[native spear]

hello Murng

[cunning turtle]

Free trait b41-b42 imo

[blazing coral]

I don't think stealth will be viable while zombies spot you in 1 frame and the only way to hide behind fences and cars is if you are directly beside it

[glacial cape]

Fair enough, but long distance travel would still be slower than compared to a car

[blazing coral]

for sure. Cars would have their pros/cons too

maybe horses will be better offroad too

[glacial cape]

Or for shorter trips into a close town or something

Only worry with horses is them getting injured

[reef pecan]

Hallo there

[reef pecan]

Ok hear me out:
Horse prosthetics

[red hazel]

I never noticed there was a corpse on the driver's seat of my car I've been riding for a few days until now lol. I must've been sitting on the lap of a dead corpse

[cunning turtle]

no sabo

[blazing coral]

huh I've found a new bug

I'm disassembling disposable cameras on the ground. I had multiple and used the crafting menu to disassemble multiple in one go. My character takes 1 camera from the ground and disassembles it however many times I set in the menu

And it really counts as if I had disassembled them all

Watches seem to do it too.

looking at the forum now to see if this was reported. then I guess I need to enter debug mode to see what are the conditions for this bug/exploit

yup, someone already reported it

[glacial cape]

That corpse turns and bites you whilst driving

free cushioning though!

[ripe nebula]

The materials needed to make spears are now uncommon but spears still break just as quickly which means the skill is harder to level and it’s also not easy to get a lot of spears to use

[glacial cape]

Think someone said that spears scale with carving, maintenance & spear skill now plus knapping

@ripe nebula .

carving isn't that hard to level either

you can easily carve from planks to get small handles to then carve into spoons or forks I forget once you reach carving 1

but to get to that point you need to trim tree saplings into long sticks then carve that into a spear and use tree branches to carve into stakes

its a method I've found to get quick xp from carving its easy to level even without a skill book on 1x xp

just make sure you've got a good supply of knives or an whetstone/grindstone on you to resharpen your knives/knife

hope this helps for you :)

[ornate laurel]

is a Grindstone better than a Whetstone?

in the "chance to damage the blade" thing

[real fox]

kinda like this new vibe

[glacial cape]

Not sure but I would assume so I don't know what the difference is

[glacial cape]

Love the little sleeping bag!

[ripe nebula]

Now I wanna play a tribal

[real fox]

YES

[ripe nebula]

But like… what the hell would some tribal be doing in Kentucky in 1980

Maybe I could rp a Native American/indian from a reserve

Murdering zombies is so easy tho

Why live away from civilization when you can just murder any zombies you need to and live in the middle of town with all the stuff you could need?

I was thinking of making a little home on top of the grocery store roof in Riverside. I found a sleeping bag and have what I need to make a campfire for cooking up there.

[sturdy sequoia]

she kinda reminds me of Elizabeth Doppler from the show Dark

she has such a cool post apoc aesthetic

[ripe nebula]

Cat Eyes kinda doesn’t seem to do anything substantial imo. I still have to use a flashlight with it and it doesn’t really help much.

[red hazel]

I like it when outside at night. Dont need a flashlight unless indoors

Found frozen icecream

[red hazel]

There's icecream (fresh) and (fresh, frozen). I guess the only difference is that one lasts longer it seems. Never saw it until now

[cunning turtle]

Luna when live stream?, jk

[real fox]

ive thought about it lmfao

[glacial cape]

That's true but its also only 2 points and might potentially save you from using a flashlight outdoors I think you should have better vision indoors as well

[real fox]

Lmfaooo

3 of those hours are idle but still lmfaooo

[glacial cape]

lol on that build 42 grindset

[real fox]

LMFAO

[glacial cape]

Oh does frozen icecream not give you unhappiness anymore?

that's a good change if that's the case lol Idk who would get upset over frozen ice cream

[ripe nebula]

Kinda feels weird to just sit in a chair fast forwarding time for a whole day because I have plenty of food+water and am safe and don’t have any need to go out and do things

[glacial cape]

I still get the irresistible urge to go out and explore and honestly its usually what gets me killed usually I do it with some objective(most of the time) like I just went out to get gravel bags to make a path to my base because dirt paths suck

[cedar nest]

go look for the 10k scratcher winner

[red hazel]

I just try spam painkillers and force my character to workout lol

[real fox]

imagine winning the lottery and the world ends id be so mad

[cunning turtle]

Lmao, Luna how do you feel now that u're famous

[real fox]

LMFAO imagine

id panic

[red hazel]

I found a car by the side of the road. Killed the zed in a suit. There was a gold bar(ingot) on the ground. I don't even know what it's for when the world ended lol

[hallow adder]

I don't know if it's me, but this is how I play Project Zomboid:

1. Play custom sandbox, and set all zombies to None. Meaning, no zombies will appear on the map.
2. Set loot respawn to 24 hours, with max loot variety and quantity.
3. Pretend I'm living solo in a world where I can only see myself.

I use the loot respawns to get everything I need, grind out my levels, and then started moving all of my appliances out of the house. I then ransacked places to get my generator, fuel, and car. I then move everything into my new rural home a bit far from town, then move appliances one-by-one into the house.

I then pretend that everyday, I would go "shopping" and loot the groceries and everyday items from stores. I pretend that I'm living in a world where I have universal basic income and food magically appears in stores so I can go buy them and store them into my fridge until they spoil.

Build 42 made all of this immersion even more realistic. Loved it.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[glacial cape]

Probably someone trying to rob any valuables in the panic of the apocalypse, I'm pretty sure on the radio or any lore inscriptions it mentions people robbing places or rioting which makes sense

shame we don't see any of that in game though and basically every building in town is in perfect condition so its cool to see the loot degredation setting being a thing

its not the real thing yet but its like survivor houses giving the impression of other survivors just trying to get by

[lethal wolf]

now add short sighted and forget your prescription glasses so its even more realistic, you're "legally blind"

[hallow adder]

I do have prescription glasses.

The only thing left for realism is to have the character be able to have waste functions, and being able to swim in open waters.

Or at least, have John Romero zombies that can swim in the waters.

[edgy blade]

anyone else have all their chickens despawn when u relaunch the game

[lethal wolf]

How do you justify breaking into peoples houses and never have anyone home or police trying to get you?

[hallow adder]

Probably known bug. Report it on the official forum if not reported.

[hallow adder]

Universal basic income.

Everything is free.

And the best part is, since everything is free, why would anyone wanted to come and get me?

[lethal wolf]

Fair enough. PZ is a wild zombie game when you can perfectly have a decent experience even without zombies. Basically how I am trying to end up in B42, never meeting zeds again but at start, far too dangerous

[real fox]

I’m low key avoiding fast reproducing animals for now

Might stick with lamb and cows tho and go hunting if I live long enough

[lethal wolf]

had same issue, although animals tied to trees started despawning in an order as if on a timer. Chickens did despawn too further and further each reload

[edgy blade]

all my animals were in pens :(
over 30 chickens

im sobbing
my family is gone!!!!!!

[lethal wolf]

Clearly a bug, I had no night time events or anything leading to their disappearing. You can use -debug launch argument to re-spawn your animals back.

Well, to basically use cheats to respawn animals back, then restart the game without the launch argument so you no longer have cheats on

[blazing coral]

are there carving books?

[glacial cape]

yes, although I've not found any at all but they're in the game you can spawn them in debug mode but unsure if they spawn or not

skill books seem to be rarer now due to the loot pools being wacky due to the amount of new paperback books, named books etc

[glacial cape]

I wear prescription glasses because I myself irl need them :D

[hallow adder]

Luckily there are Cat Eyes prescription eyewear in PZ in Build 42 now.

[hallow adder]

yes

[glacial cape]

either way its pretty easy to level carving

[blazing coral]

Yea that I noticed. So easy I didn't think they'd put the skill book

I'm guessing knapping also has books then?

[lethal wolf]

knapping may be the only book I have not seen but pretty sure its there. Pottery has a book, carving, butchering...

[glacial cape]

ye there's pretty much a skill book for every crafting skill

as well as aiming, reloading & long blade unsure about other combat skills and maintenance

[lethal wolf]

So what we are discovering now is that while other loot warehouses, hotwire cars, explore. We study the (long) blade.

[edgy blade]

How do I even do that
Like is it a command u type in like other games, or do i have to launch in a debug mode

[edgy blade]

Oh

[lethal wolf]

You get a LOT of menus on rightclick and in general to navigate. But rightclick menu, somewhere, has the option to spawn things like animals of any type/breed. Have fun respawning 30 chickens!

[edgy blade]

It's whatever. there's some other stuff i wanted to try too

The game's unstable build is basically unplayable. like im getting unfairly grappled by zombies 90% of the time and i just cant do anything

havent been able to see any of the new features because of all the bugs i kept running into lol

[reef pecan]

Hey has anyone figured out a good way to level knapping?

[lethal wolf]

It did work decently well for me until animals started going poof, but I ruined my own 2nd run after I respawned them. But now that I started my 3rd run, good chance we'll get bugfix patches before I get anywhere far

[edgy blade]

Hopefully
I've been grabbed through my push twice in a row now
And I had an interaction similar to b41 multiplayer where my character just somehow missed a swing and got grabbed even though i was within range

[lethal wolf]

I often feel like my stomps or weapon hits on a grounded zed hit nothing, make a sound like I hit the ground although my targeting has been on its head firmly

but hard to say if thats a git gud issue or actually hits going through zombie heads

[edgy blade]

i think its always been like that to some extent, but u notice it more because the stomp sound is so loud now

[lethal wolf]

Could be that in b42 I keep making 2 fitness 3 strenght characters and my character is simply so weak

[edgy blade]

nah i always play with randomized stats so i can tell u it's normal to some extent

[hallow geyser]

For personal reference now that I'm finally settled enough to try this, what's the most effective/official route to report issues found in the Unstable build?

[edgy blade]

bro what in the actual--

i JUSt got here btw
idk what's going on or what the creators of this game are smoking, but i dont understand how im supposed to deal with THAT with muscle strain

[lethal wolf]

gather em all after you in a tight group, fuck off to the closest forested area, get em lost in the woods and sneak back

[edgy blade]

im at the gun store next to echo creek
there's a double fence around this whole place
And the new straggler zombies make leading them away like that impossible

[real fox]

smoll gun

[lethal wolf]

thats the only way I've had working for big hordes now that killing them is bit harder

[edgy blade]

ive just been using cars. i could use fire but fire takes forever and nobody likes players that burn down cities just to clear a group of zombies so id rather not do that

id say screw it and run inside the building, but i already know there's no back exits

[lethal wolf]

yeah I've had to do multiple laps around a big area with car honking to get everything in one place and that way clear the desired target area

just no way to deal with that amount of zombies easily

[edgy blade]

I love how my game froze when i hopped over a fence because the amount of zombie's following me that had to switch their pathing around was too much for it to handle

I'm not even joking when I say I've never even seen this many zombies on max pop (unless we're talking about lusiville)

[glacial cape]

is that the quietest of the 2 revolvers?

apparently it is, only got a range of 30 tiles as wwell

since shotguns can't multi-hit now it might be worth using to level aiming?

[lethal wolf]

shotguns can and will multi-hit still, but spread is not as wild

[glacial cape]

I see

[opaque schooner]

Yes smallest

[visual sand]

Is it loaded?

[hot grail]

There's three ☝️🤓

[dawn elm]

one thing I dont like is spawning with a gun at the start and rather look for a weapon in my spawn house or building.

I tried west point for the first time and the suburban areas dont have large hoards of the undead which makes it feel more better than build 41.

[cunning turtle]

☝️🤓

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-sad-oh-no-gif-17379933

[hallow adder]

Someone found a genius way of transporting gas fuel from a gas station to your base far away by transporting 3 rain collector barrels and putting them all into a 4-seats car. Each barrel holds 600 liters of gas.

You need to carry with you a hammer so that when you place the barrel down, you can use the hammer to place them.

That's 1800 liters of gasoline right there.

[jade haven]

Wait a minute. We didn't get a Thursdoid last month 😤

[hallow adder]

Thursdoid is the Build 42 unstable announcement. :/

[jade haven]

That was on a Tuesday. Doesn't count 😤😤

[hallow adder]

Actually, you can put 4 rain collector barrels in a car, one in the driver's seat. Meaning, you can at least carry 2400 liters of gasoline with you. With a 6-seater van, that's 3600 liters. With a trailer, that's closer to 4800 liters.

[dawn elm]

have to wait for January 30th for a thurdoid

[hallow adder]

A single car takes around 6 liters of gasoline, which means, you basically have near infinite gasoline

[glacial cape]

What about those empty metal drums you can find in lv checkpoint & are you sure picking them up doesn't get rid of the contents?

[hallow adder]

Can those metal drums carry more than 600 liters of gasoline? If yes, then yeah.

[fluid panther]

What should I do if I have 0 fps on the world?

[glacial cape]

and picking up the barrels doesn't just delete the gasoline?

[hallow adder]

Nope

Build 42 liquid transportation is king

[real fox]

it is 😼

[hallow adder]

Get a better spec-ed gaming PC to play.

[real fox]

oh shiet

[fluid panther]

no, it happened suddenly, before I had 150+ fps

[jade haven]

Those metal drums now function as liquid containers???

[real fox]

ERRRMM?

[hallow adder]

Well, I haven't personally tested this. But I believed they do.

[vague trench]

lol

a tinkleberry

[hallow adder]

You can also move it around after you place it if needed without losing liquid, the pickup weight only accounts for the 7.5 weight of the barrel and not the 600 weight of the liquids inside.

From Reddit.

[hallow adder]

Those metal drums can no longer be emptied of logs to be used for liquid collection, I tested it in debug even. Seems they can only be used as a source for fire now, the only option I had was to add fuel and that's it.

[glacial cape]

if this is a base game feature it would be cool but I think the weight needs increased a bit because that is lighter than a gas can and holds more

I do remember seeing a mod which lets you store fluid in a barrel as well

[hallow adder]

I'm pretty sure it will get balanced out after subsequent patches ahead.

Right now, the devs are on holiday. They won't be back until January's Thursdoid.

[ornate laurel]

But it's Thursday today!

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[hallow adder]

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hrsu85/electricity_went_out_when_i_was_searching_for_a/

[vague trench]

lol jesus christ

[red hazel]

Hmmm for some reason I have a hotdog weiner (fresh, uncooked) that is unlimited use lol. Well see once it goes stale

[hallow adder]

That's a known bug.

[red hazel]

hmm does it go stale?

[vague trench]

lol , its really just THAT long

[reef pecan]

Ngl I forgot the past couple of weeks have technically been holidays and got so confused about why there haven’t been any hot fixes

[blazing coral]

Idk exactly how this happened but is there a way to flip the trailer back?

[red hazel]

ram it from the side at a decent speed. Doesnt break your car from what i remember

if you go too fast and do a sudden sharp turn, these trailers like to flip

[glacial cape]

beautiful

[proper sedge]

Hey everyone. Multiplayer will be available soon?

[glacial cape]

No idea

[vague trench]

probably not for a while

[west chasm]

unlikey

[opaque schooner]

Have you considered just dragging it

[blazing coral]

I tried, wouldn't budge

[vague trench]

lol just use it like that

[opaque schooner]

Disconnect and go nuts ramming it

But don’t get your van stuck on top of it

[blazing coral]

I read that if I connect another vehicle to it that it will unflip itself

[vague trench]

sometimes , i had a trailer flip my car and i connected it while it was upside down and it flipped back over lol

[blazing coral]

Anyways I've been tending to my adopted animals and I have 1 angus cow and 3 bulls of different breeds (each in a separate zone). Can the angus still have offspring?

[ornate laurel]

Yeah

[astral brook]

30k?

[ornate laurel]

Default Apocalypse settings has it take a couple months to push a baby out, and then 15 more days to get new baby in. All the while it's producing milk.

Some testing in -debug shows that the max capacity of a Cow/Ewe Udder is randomized. So a large herd maximizes how much milk (and therefore Butter) you can make for long term calorie management

[worn notch]

They have animal breeding in the game so you can breed animals to be better at certain things

Which is how we did it irl

[ornate laurel]

Wait so are Udder, weight, and wool stats based on the breed?

[glacial cape]

Funny how we don't already have the perfect breed of animals before the apocalypse starts, it's like they introduced new animals and got rid of the ones with perfect genetics

Right now I also feel like the animals take way too long to reproduce except chickens for some reason their population just likes to asexually reproduce

[pallid hinge]

I am murdering them, one zombie at a time - I have killed about 1k zombies there so far (at over 2k kills total on this character lol)

[visual sand]

Have they confirmed this with a solid date? I've been keeping an eye on things and idk if I've missed it or that's your guess

[hallow adder]

I'm just eyeing the next Thursdoid. 🫡

[visual sand]

Fair enough! I figured I just wanted to be sure, 'cause if they were on holiday til the end of the month there'd be nothing to talk about in a Thursdoid xD

But waiting til then for news is definitely The Play™️

[silk nova]

They said they will be back from the 6th of jan

[keen gorge]

All my hardcore mods have updated and it's back to me hating myself for setting the difficulty too high

[hallow adder]

I didn't know that.

[glacial cape]

Does anyone know where to find copious amounts of gravel bags or sacks, warehouses seem to have less now and different loot pools

[unkempt atlas]

Someone is pushing updates to the encrypted testing branches 🤷

[hallow adder]

Gas station basements

[pallid hinge]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/12/merry-christmas/