Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[timber talon]

stone wheel needs large stone

[vague trench]

is that the wheel?

i meant to reply lol

[hallow adder]

The Wheel

[vague trench]

the stone donut

[hallow adder]

Forbidden snack

[lethal wolf]

ty, found stone wheels, no longer do I need to kill rats with a dull blade

[vague trench]

theres a baby donut too

[vague trench]

[lethal wolf]

thanks for my animal horde, their poop lets me to get fertilizer one day, no need to ever leave my base camp and isle

[timber talon]

make sure u have enough food for them in winter when they can't eat off the ground

[lethal wolf]

now to figure out how to...coerce...my animals to procreate so I can prolong my civilization

[lethal wolf]

I suppose one can make his own animal feed via grass cuttings and somehow drying them or something

[timber talon]

yea i havent figured out how to make hay, but grass cuttings dont seem to dry out and i've got way too much lol

[hallow adder]

Do we have donkeys in Build 42?

[timber talon]

yes, all of us free bug testers are the donkeys

[hallow adder]

Those asses are great.

[timber talon]

but no i have not seen any donkeys around

[hallow adder]

Shame.

[lethal wolf]

perhaps that or the larger variant for crops

[timber talon]

oh, u may be right, i haven't seen that lol

[lethal wolf]

yeah its in the building menu, not crafting

[timber talon]

they desperately need a recipe list but wait for full release i'd say

[lethal wolf]

I know I found a random piece of wheat sheaf, could be it is a product of drying

edible, too

[timber talon]

idk im just eating eggs and butter every day

[vague trench]

yay i love beonkgy

[lethal wolf]

I can't figure out how to make fire without matches atm

it was simpler in b41 with rightclick options

[vague trench]

have we always been able to look behind us in a car lol

[lethal wolf]

yes, don't drive without a mirror IRL, might get you into trouble

[vague trench]

lol

[timber talon]

notched plank still works i think

[lethal wolf]

thanks, I forgot how the item was called, I assume you also need a stick of some kind with it

[timber talon]

lol gamebreaking glitch, i have too many animals and cant see the button to close the info panel

[vague trench]

lmao

[timber talon]

esc doesnt work lol

im gonna have to reload

[vague trench]

can you resize the window?

[timber talon]

no lmao hahahahaha

[vague trench]

lol get rabbit'd

[lethal wolf]

rabbits doing rabbit things, procreating

working as intended

[vague trench]

all those deaths of people running over animals they come back 500 fold lol

[timber talon]

i wanna kill them but they are my gf's pets

[vague trench]

lol haha

[timber talon]

maybe i should "send them to a farm" in echo creek

[lethal wolf]

my wife wanted bunnies, we got us 2, and they're already enough when they just got into forbidden places behind wifes work/gaming PC and destroyed the cables, your gf has gone too far

[vague trench]

wtf lol a crawler came out of that pile that i found

[timber talon]

just set a livestock zone duh

[lethal wolf]

I am concerned Puppers, did you actually start hauling corpses to your butchering room to process them into IQ?

[vague trench]

lol noo i just found this place and that room was like that

the crawler trying to eat brain

[lethal wolf]

Yeah, it is (was) called bunny fences, stuffing god-forsaken amount of pillows, everything to stop them doing shit when we're asleep, and now wife returned from abroad seeing her PC stuff destroyed with a 3 digit euro sum worth of damages done

[timber talon]

its ok, the rabbits are cute

[lethal wolf]

they are, thats why I posted mine to get more reacts to validate my existence

but I think I got enough reacts in this thread alone to last for a lifetime

[vague trench]

piglets only worth a faceskin lol

[lethal wolf]

so pigs do give leather, nice

was afraid I needed to out to hunt deer

[vague trench]

yah i found some dead oinker

[lethal wolf]

"found" yes, a piglet, the cutest one

[vague trench]

lol

[lethal wolf]

Puppers the Piglet Life Snuffer

[timber talon]

anyone knows how to get charcoal from wood charcoal lmao

the charcoal burning barrel yields wood charcoal, forge etc wants charcoal...

[vague trench]

theres two different kinds? lol

all i see is the wood kind

[cunning turtle]

lol

[timber talon]

yea and there's coke as well

[vague trench]

need dat prime cut charcoal only apparently lol

[cosmic yoke]

i found an orphaned lamb :( do lambs need milk in this game? will she starve without her mother? i have other female sheep as well as plenty food for them but im worried abt the poor little thing

wittle baby

[vague trench]

noo!!!

im not sure i was wondering that too like if you HAD to have the mother

[frozen wyvern]

I accidentally ran one of those over in front of her mother

[cosmic yoke]

omfg

[timber talon]

wow is that a glitch?? ur lamb chop is walking

[vague trench]

LOL nooo

[frozen wyvern]

whoopsie

[cosmic yoke]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not a lamb chop !!!!!!!!!

[timber talon]

so you're sayign you rather starve it to death, i see

[cosmic yoke]

im hoping it can eat animal feed 😭 if she starves i will quit the game forever

[timber talon]

u can try keep it with another milk producing ewe, might save it

[cosmic yoke]

i dont have any right now, unfortunately. hoping one of my ewes pops a baby out

[vague trench]

is it because made of different materials

[vague trench]

yah i really hope we can feed them , does it say anything on the animal info?

[lethal wolf]

most important thing to know, will cutting trees result in friendly fire if animals wander nearby...

dont wanna chop my pork or lamb into a chop

[cosmic yoke]

she's not hungry right now, just stressed

healthy otherwise, though

[vague trench]

the poor lil furrpuff

[frozen wyvern]

What on earth am I supposed to do with animal brains lol\

[vague trench]

ill take them!!

for decoration !! lol

more brains higher iq remember it aoe affect aha

[lethal wolf]

eat brains to gain their power - if animals can live among zombie hordes, so can you once you obtain the power

[native spear]

Can you find rat king in B42 or is that mod?

[lethal wolf]

You can.

[frozen wyvern]

Thats vanilla!

And it is vile

[lethal wolf]

It is food. At least with 7 cooking when you can use rotten ingredients in a soup!

[frozen wyvern]

Pretty sure eating rat king gives max depression possible lmao

[vague trench]

its the best thing evar!!

too bad you cant frisbee it or use it as a hat

[lethal wolf]

When/if dogs come to PZ, I'll eat a puppy and mount its skull on my island to ward off Puppers

[vague trench]

lol

how2 summon doggoblin in 2 easy steps

[lethal wolf]

post-apocalyptic Cult of the Dog Goblin, a mythical monster from the Old Days

how to level up masonry to 1? also, if concrete is needed for SO many things, damn, thats hard to build anything out of stone?

[civic drum]

All right, so bottom line, after some experimentation on my own and review of what some Youtubers have done, here's where the skills seem to be in value/usefulness (not counting combat/health skills), based on how easy they are to level and what you can actually do with them, compared to B41:

Carpentry: Surprisingly better than before, as the most useful stuff can now be crafted at lower levels, and feels easier to level too.

Carving: Vaguely useful, and easy to level

Cooking: More useful than B41, since there's new recipes that require certain cooking skills

Electical: Slightly more useful than B41, since you can get generator skill by leveling it up, still a grind to level, but does feel faster

Glassmaking: Why bother? Seriously, I'm asking you, there really doesn't seem to be much point to this skill, as most of the items are readily available for looting. I guess if you're doing a wilderness only game, maybe

Knapping: See Glassmaking

Masonry: Could be useful if you're playing on abundant resources, but as it stands right now, uses up too many resources for too little point. Brick walls also should be significantly increased in HP to make it worth it

Metalworking: Seems borderline pointless except for helping with Mechanics

Mechanics: Feels unchanged in leveling and purpose from B41

Pottery: Seems interesting, but I'm unclear as to why you would bother

Tailoring: Seems unchanged from B41, but easier to level

Welding: I'm not sure why this was split from Metalworking, feels like they should have stayed together

Agriculture: REALLY important, and levels like Farming did in B41, and as of right now, it feels like this should be a priority for anyone playing Stardew Valley. Way harder to level than Farming, because of the increased growth times of plants.

Animal Care: Even after raising chickens, I still don't know how the levels in this are supposed to work.

Butchering: Even after trying it myself and watching some playthroughs, I still can't see what this is supposed to effect/change by having higher skills. Meat yields seem roughly the same.

[frozen wyvern]

Helpful guide, but as for all the 'why bothers', I find that skills like Glassmaking are very placeholder atm until more tech trees get finalized

I've been viewing the unstable release as getting everything from the crafting update except for the actual crafting lol

[civic drum]

That's my assessment for Pottery and Knapping, but I still don't see why you'd want Glassmaking even when everything's implemented. Except maybe for jars?

Or Windows for your house, but windows are still moveable.

[frozen wyvern]

Well again the idea is, be able to do everything from being naked in the woods

But I dunno, I feel like maybe some fun stuff could be done with glassmaking

[civic drum]

I guess maybe scopes for rifles?

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah stuff like that

[civic drum]

But that wouldn't be much use for a wilds playthrough

[frozen wyvern]

I think the problem is everyone is viewing each individual skill tree as being equally as important as something like carpentry, which I dont think is the intention

Might be because every skill has those static 10 levels, which I think isn't the best way to go about XP

I cant pick up the fairy lights 😭

[civic drum]

I mean, in B41, you could get by without most skills, and I think that's stil the case in B42. Even carpentry doesn't feel quite as essential as it used to.

[real fox]

LMFAOOOO

[vague trench]

bruh i tried picking those up too lol

[frozen wyvern]

I guess let me put it another way, I think a lot of people are viewing the new skills as bloated and unnecessary cuz they dont have many relevant recipes

[vague trench]

hopefully in the future maybe?

[frozen wyvern]

HOPEFULLY

I NEED THOSE DAMN LIGHTS IN MY BASE

[vague trench]

right i woudl much rather have a little christmas light or lantern for base light lol

[civic drum]

I still want a way to place a lantern down on the ground and light it up.

So I have light in my base without carrying it around only.

OR, turn the lanterns into hanging wall sconces or pathway lamps.

I have like 30 hurricane lanterns from Coalfield, and nothing to do with them

[gleaming perch]

same but for candles

[civic drum]

Yeah, those too.

[vague trench]

why would lightning freaking drop my fps to 12 lol wth

[gleaming perch]

i could’ve sworn there was a video Indie stone published a few months ago where there were actual lit candles

[frozen wyvern]

fried ur GPU

[civic drum]

Restart your game. I had that issue when a big storm came through too. Restarted and it was fine.

[gleaming perch]

https://youtu.be/NFGHGU1kf18

going to 0:47 shows the candles

[frozen wyvern]

Uuuuuugh where on earth can I find a damn Masons chisel, Ive found like 50 Metalworking and Carpentry ones

[civic drum]

Found 3 in the hardware store in Fallas Lake

[frozen wyvern]

Are those candle tiles already in the Sanitorium?

[vague trench]

thats so weird lol when i zoom in 100 its fine

[gleaming perch]

Im not sure I havent been

I just want the ability to place down lit candles

[civic drum]

I'm going to have to check that out.

[vague trench]

i tried going in that place but its so laggball

[civic drum]

Theoretically, if there's a placed object lit candle, there might be a way to mod it to turn candles into the object

[vague trench]

whats down there!!

[frozen wyvern]

I just dont think there's any logic in the game that lets a placed item emit light tho

[civic drum]

End table lamps and floor lamps.

[frozen wyvern]

Those are tiles tho, right? Not placed items, if you get my drift

[civic drum]

Yeah, I'm sorry, that's what I meant. Turning a candle object into a tile.

Like how Sleeping bags work.

[frozen wyvern]

I just hope they have more design consistency in how tiles and world objects coeexist

As of now it feels arbitrary as to what is a world item and what is a tile

[vague trench]

me clicking every single speck now

[cunning turtle]

lol

[civic drum]

Found my first HottieZ mag, and I'm really curious if it's still consumable, because I can see it has an issue date now. If I read do I get sexy picture in game or does the magazine just vanish forever?

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/buck-ketnet-hooyah-vrt-fun-gif-13194972

[frozen wyvern]

Nah it just works like books do now, you keep it but you have a cooldown until you can enjoy it again

[vague trench]

lol

tis feet centerfold

[civic drum]

So you're saying it's like that one annotated museum map: I have to save all of the issues to preserve human art and culture.

[frozen wyvern]

Exactly

[native spear]

Wow did not know that lol

[native spear]

lol a hat would be pretty wild

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hudson-hawk-hat-trick-fedora-bruce-willis-gif-22180295

[frozen wyvern]

Accidentally did a collateral kill on a bnuy family

[vague trench]

lol

pentakill

how is there no boombox

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19492954

[lucid ginkgo]

So I built floor tiles one level above my animal pen, but it still says there are 0 roofed areas. Is there a minimum amount required before it registers?

[real fox]

this is going to effect the trout population

[civic drum]

Hot damn. Just started a new character, very first shelf I looked at had the generator mag.

[vague trench]

lol i

[vague trench]

what the hell lol

[lucid ginkgo]

And...I just woke up to find parts of my animal fence have been destroyed? What?

[vague trench]

lol do you have pigs

[lucid ginkgo]

yes

[vague trench]

hang on lol

[lucid ginkgo]

well, did

[vague trench]

lol

must be a pig thing

[lucid ginkgo]

😐

[vague trench]

wonder if you have to use metal fences for them

[lucid ginkgo]

Think you may be right...here's one trying to bust down a door

[vague trench]

LOOOOOOL

[frozen wyvern]

Can I not use this Forge at McCoy Estate? Clickling or rightclocking doesnt let me interract with it

Wait nvm found it lol

[vague trench]

do you just click on it?

[lucid ginkgo]

Yup

[frozen wyvern]

It was inside the building not outside

[vague trench]

lmfao thats so funny and so realistic, in valheim they do that too lol

wher is that from ;l

wheres the skin store

[frozen wyvern]

Ive found a few out and about

Cant remember exactly where tho

[vague trench]

i shall take a gander at a farm thingei

[frozen wyvern]

How hard is it to level up Metalworking now? Just looking at the recipes and it looks like theres a lot of cool shit

All the cool stuff is like lvl5+ tho

My sleeping bag is gravitationally attracted to my hiking bag

[cunning turtle]

What happened to bro

[vague trench]

lol its a tail

[lethal wolf]

found at least one in the warehouse-factory area near riverside, Lectro-Max factory if you can believe that

also, anyone been able to dismantle hutches? I dont wanna build them now because they seem permanently stuck in the world

[opaque schooner]

Dear god, the pigs have breached containment

[vague trench]

Yah thats hilarious had no idea that was possible

[opaque schooner]

Seriously

[hallow adder]

What about drilling holes in planks? Did that recipe got removed?

[hoary rampart]

AMDs still having crash issues?

[lethal wolf]

no idea, I have hand drills tho, but surely the old way works, too, I just forgot the entire procedure because they removed lots of right clicking options in favor of crafting menu

[hallow adder]

Yes, that is going to be looked at in 2025

[hoary rampart]

Cool.

[hallow adder]

After the holidays, of course.

You still have New Year's and 1 more additional week.

[vague trench]

Yah, january is when they should start pushin out hotfixes

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-hands-in-team-teamwork-gif-13261612

[lethal wolf]

slow devs, takes them until next year to do anything

[gleaming perch]

Yall think these stats are good for now?

[lethal wolf]

needs more aiming, your character killed a CEO after all

[gleaming perch]

True

[pallid hinge]

I ❤️ The Indie Game Store

[vague trench]

Lol

[hallow adder]

Can't help it when it's on the annual holiday break seasons.

[subtle tendon]

When are dlcs coming to pz 🤑

[lethal wolf]

its 15 hours until next year for me, that was the joke

[subtle tendon]

When b43?

[lethal wolf]

scroll all the way up, tried asking the same, never got a real answer

[pallid hinge]

I'd say.. before B44 comes out is a possibility

[velvet egret]

^#1318684957526458450 message

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[pallid hinge]

IYKYK

[heady field]

my game is weird, I only enabled clothing n hair mod but hotkeys and minimap on survivor mode not working/ disabled x-x

[pallid hinge]

Did you swap from B42 back to B41 at any point?

I noticed when I did that my settings were wiped out

[hallow adder]

i have 21 hours. 😭

[chilly atlas]

this is why im not playing b42 rn tbh 😭 but its not an issue with the build afaik since this happens when i play b40 also

[heady field]

nope, I reinstalled pz when b42 released

havent switched since then, just switching between mods

[pallid hinge]

it makes sense though B42 adds a lot of things to the settings ini file and B41 is like "uh, I don't know what to do with all of this stuff"

[pallid hinge]

hmm I am not sure tbh, it was the only thing that came to mind, sorry 😦

[heady field]

I'll play vanilla for now, gonna wait until stable build released before adding mods haha

[pallid hinge]

yea I prefer to hold off on modding till way later just so I can see what is in the base game's update - and then wait for it to stablize a bit... Plus I enjoy reporting bugs and if you have mods they won't accept the bug report a lot of the time

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/project-simpsons-bart-homer-gif-7656666

the devs after the New Year^

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/say-cheese-picture-flash-camera-take-picture-gif-19303278

[frozen wyvern]

Ive been properly exploring the map for the first time and its been a blast

Went to March Ridges bunker then I went to McCoy Estate, both are cool

Next id like to go to the Louisville Airport... but im gonna need a lot of ammo

[pallid hinge]

a shotgun, a spiffo, and a dream

[frozen wyvern]

I found a Big Spiffo so my luck is increased tenfold

[velvet egret]

have you found Mega/Giant/Huge Spiffo yet? I know it got added

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

Or you've used all of your luck in one run

[pallid hinge]

yup luck doesn't reset until B43

[glacial cape]

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

I wonder if anyone crazy enough has attempted to clear LV checkpoint and march into the city

[cunning turtle]

There must be someone crazy enough

[pallid hinge]

Still working on this thing

[vapid trail]

its insanely hard... dont go to the shooting range its not worth it

just loot the main area and dont go to the inside training area, just the main stores

[pallid hinge]

yea I figured the main store the the best bet - the lockup was pretty sad

[vapid trail]

the storage area has some decent supplies, i managed to loot off m16 there

[pallid hinge]

not for me, was just 5 boxes of shotgun shells, one box of 9mm, one box of 5.56 and two rounds of .308

oh and a box of nails lol

probably gonna take those 5 boxes of shotgun shells to the army surplus store and see if I can snowball a bit

[vapid trail]

damn, that sucks!
also i think this store is entirely attachments

[pallid hinge]

go loud, blast and hope I can clear enough out

[vapid trail]

i started to loot it and it was mostly attachments, with some clothes and canteens, mostly recoil pads and 4x/8x scopes

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

Guns unlimited? more like guns finite

[lethal wolf]

gunfinite

[cunning turtle]

finitegun

[glacial cape]

Guns limited

[blazing mirage]

So I can't slice bread 🍞 and ham like normal before. No simple right click. I need to open the whole crafting menu search and then craft.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[lethal wolf]

welcome to b42 unstable, you're not alone in wondering why menu surfing can be too much

[pallid hinge]

maintenance +2 🎉

[blazing mirage]

Is it a bug or did they added it on purpose ?

[lethal wolf]

for now seems intentional, but player feedback sure as hell can be expressed to make it make sense

[glacial cape]

Believe this has already been addressed by lemmy on reddit the whole right click menu thing

[lethal wolf]

I don't really think returning the right click based convenience would cause issues, there's only so much one can do with bread, even rightclicking a branch clearly allows processing it in multiple ways, so why does some items with just 1 function require menu

[blazing mirage]

Hopefully mods will make it right.

[lethal wolf]

care to link?

[glacial cape]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hohm7y/regarding_crafting_in_unstable/

[blazing mirage]

Like the sink thing with rag cleaning i just installed a mod

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[lethal wolf]

Plenty of stuff to come for b42 over time, it ain't over any time soon. Unstable so far already has so much, so keep your eyes peeled when devs start pushing some patches starting 2nd week of January or something

[pallid hinge]

yea once we are no longer in the holiday limbo they will be pushing out patches pretty frequently, at least they did in B41

So you do actually still get queasy from being around stinky bodies too long - people were saying you didn't anymore

so smell the stink for too long and you get queasy, that is easy

[vapid trail]

i think if you reach max stench you start to get queasy, otherwise no

[pallid hinge]

it took a long time of being in max stench

for it to go to queasy

[vapid trail]

so like a simple bandana can prevent you from getting queasy

also i think this is surely a bug i dont think it should be that long

[pallid hinge]

I tried bandana and medical mask and it seemed to have no affect on stink

gas mask, and SCBA respirator do though

but I am short sighted on this character so it scuffs my vision

don't think I will be doing that again

[real fox]

I HATE THESE MOODLES IM SORRY

[pallid hinge]

that is fair

no need to be sorry 🙂

[real fox]

actually, i wouldnt mind them if they did the pixelated art versions of them

thats what bothers me the most, its mostly the little ZING the old moodles had with the semi pixelated affect

it just had flavour

some of the new moodles actually are better than the old, its just the art style that mostly bothers me, the new moodles are way more visually descriptive of what is happening to ur character

[heady field]

any news when will they reenable plumbing?

[severe egret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hnde1q/out_of_curiosity_i_decided_to_see_how_the_new/

ngl i love the mirrored stress moodle

way better

[real fox]

i dont know how to fish, has anything changed from b41 to b42 fishing wise?

[pallid hinge]

yea there is a mini game now... and no more spear fishing

[real fox]

has anyone wroten a guide yet on the fishing minigame im so confused by it and cant seem to find any guides searching on the discord ahhh

[pallid hinge]

honestly I haven't seen any guides for it - but I haven't been looking really

I CAN look though 🙂

[real fox]

i can maybe figure it out kinda???

when ur character does a lil animation you real it in

[pallid hinge]

You can be the one to produce the guide!

new video idea!

[real fox]

LMFAO

i like how i posted that one video just to be able to share it with yall and now i have 15 subs in one day and almost 2k veiws on it now lmfao

all the comments were fun haha

[pallid hinge]

hitting that algorithm haha

[lethal wolf]

last I asked I was told the plumbing needs a lot of work to make it proper thing, so don't expect it to return for a bit

[pallid hinge]

I helped, by liking subbing and commenting

[pallid hinge]

https://youtu.be/xqkH-Kz5nEg?t=69 Drunkonlife did a short guide it seems

[real fox]

yesssss

[real fox]

👁️

[glacial cape]

Yippe

[fluid panther]

How to treat leather?

[visual trail]

what's this stupid conversation I've just read about getting prion disease from eatin brains ;))?

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[visual trail]

that guy has some issues I feel

[pallid hinge]

I mean it is technically true - Kuru is a prion disease that is transmitted via consumption of infected human's brains

but you also aren't wrong, it is a possibility

[visual trail]

Any body fluid can be used as a medium for transmission, they believe it's the brain because that's where abnormal folded proteins accumulate 😉

And no doubt eating that will get you infected, also a blood transfusion will do the trick

[pallid hinge]

purrrfect

[glacial cape]

Did I just drop into a conversation between zombies or something

[pallid hinge]

🙃

[real fox]

SPIFFO PLUSHY

[glacial cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409018996780695559/1046789008899985498/Hyper_Dancing_AOL_Guy.gif

[lament crow]

LETSGOOO FINALLY GOT A FISH

[amber rover]

I'm kind of wondering how long it'll take for someone to post one of those nomad life playthroughs, or a "nature only" kind of playthrough

Especially with the new crafting systems, that kind of playstyle will definitely blow up when the crafting system gets more development

[timber talon]

wtf my animals are walking through closed gates

bruh

[glacial cape]

Well I know that a couple of 16x pop zero to hero twitch streamers are basically doing something kinda like a nature only mainly because they can't clear out a town quicker than usual so they're kind of forced to live out in nature and forage to survive

I don't think we'll see a full YouTube series on it for a while though, until like you said once the crafting system gets more development

[timber talon]

wtff i didnt even realise it, now all my animals are all over rosewood because they can walk through closed gates

is there a way to teleport animals??

[glacial cape]

I don't know about teleporting but you can lead them with a rope into an animal trailer and drive them back

[timber talon]

im not leading all 30 of them 1 by 1

thats crazy work haha

[glacial cape]

Just make sure they're not by any zombies because it'll stress them out and they might attack you

[timber talon]

bruh why would they let them walk through close gates

[glacial cape]

Idk maybe use debug mode to despawn & then respawn then back to their enclosure I don't think animals have some form of claiming system which gives you the ability to just teleport them back to the enclosure

[timber talon]

unfortunately debug respawning wont set the ages right

meh nvm i'm done with it, time to rage quit

and i made it to winter this time, sad

[glacial cape]

I'm surprised you had 30 animals worth and babies mine haven't gotten pregnant at all and it's only just turned winter in my game, only thing which has happened was my chicken population exploding

[glacial cape]

You can lead up to a max of 63 animals at once

Without a trailer

[timber talon]

one of my pens

i am not leading them back 1 by 1 lol

too many clicks, and the rebug rope tool itself is buggy, the ropes break randomly

so frustrating

[glacial cape]

Which other animals did you have because 30 rabbits is not worth it

[rocky copper]

Can we make molotovs in b42?

[timber talon]

13 sheep, 3 cows, 22 chickens

[glacial cape]

No you can make firebombs with the right looted magazine & I've heard reports of people looting molotovs but not being able to make them

[glacial cape]

And there's no way to set their ages using debug?

[timber talon]

there is, but its like 3 clicks

and u have to set their weight/udder sizes

okie yeah i can't find anything on teleporting entities around

guess its a wrap

LOOOL rage quit

[glacial cape]

I say just spawn them back in as adults, if you think it's the games fault then it shouldn't matter I do think that they mightve escaped from being stressed out by zombies wandering in or lack of food/water or whatever makes them like that to escape

[timber talon]

nah they walked thru the closed gates hahaha i didnt even realise till i saw a chicken do it before my eyes

[glacial cape]

I do understand though nobody wants to do a collection of 30 animals around a town

[timber talon]

thjanks for the help!!!!

[glacial cape]

Felt like I didn't help at all tbh

[timber talon]

nah u tried to figure out a way to fix it

appreciate it fr

[amber rover]

Yeah, this whole thing is kind of new to me. I played around 1200 hours in B41, most of it on a heavily modded server and I was absolutely mowing zombies down, even when I ran out of ammo and had to resort to melee, then resort to whatever I could find. I'm finding I have to be a lot more careful now

[blazing coral]

on point 5. If the goal is to have players specialize, then I think you should be able to hide/track individual skills and those marked will go to a separate tab where you can unmark them later if you want. This should reduce the clutter except for people going jack of all trades.

[amber rover]

It's actually somewhat refreshing

[glacial cape]

Yeah before I played a lot of 4x pop and on servers with pop higher than that but now I'm struggling to fight in default apocalypse population and it feels so new and fresh to me it feels like b42 isn't just an update I've been waiting 3 years for even if it's incomplete it feels like it's new life and a completely new way to experience the game again to make me feel like I've played project zomboid for the first time despite having 1000 hours on it

[glacial cape]

I think the devs do want some form of toggle sandbox option for mp to prevent people from doing the jack of all trades route, and to encourage cooperative trading between players whilst including some form of affinity system where if a player is skilled in a profession/skill they can easily pick up things & learn and develop new things & skills from related professions though would be limited in what they can do outside their own profession

[cunning turtle]

[glacial cape]

some way to redcue the skill tab clutter would also be nice though

though I guess thats why lovely modders & their quality of life mods exist for

[blazing coral]

I don't think they want to force anything, even on servers. That's just their vision for the game. But 5. was only about "we are getting more skills and need better UI to handle that amount"

[glacial cape]

Yeah I'm just saying it'll be a toggable sandbox option for servers wanting that community building/trading between players and factions

[amber rover]

This is something I actually really want to see

I remember in that server I mentioned trying to set up an entire village on that farmland west of Muldraugh

We even set up a farmers market/car boot sale where people could trade items they collected/made/etc

[glacial cape]

Pulled the information from here whenever I need a refresher on which features have been talked about or hinted at in blogs
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_versions

[amber rover]

I think the best part about the combat updates is I can't be cocky anymore

[blazing coral]

like for ease of use? cause that should be an emergent dynamic from having lots of professions with difficult to farm exp. Servers that don't want this dynamic just need to increase exp multipliers

[amber rover]

Sure I occasionally thought I'd die, but I wasn't necessarily worried about it if that makes sense

[glacial cape]

Damn these zombies got hands

[amber rover]

These days it's a constant worry, even after they rebalanced the muscle strain

My first two playthroughs, my characters died on literally the first day

And that isn't something I've experienced for a long time

[glacial cape]

Maybe we'll not see it in the current version of build 42 but I could see it being a possibility when we get more traits & professions with build 42

[amber rover]

Although to be fair my first playthrough of B42 started with the tutorial mistake of firing off the pistol you spawn with

[glacial cape]

they're still working on tweaking exp rates & the like as well

[amber rover]

In the vein of the player trading you mentioned, I'm actually pretty interested in seeing whether we'll get some fully medieval servers akin to what I hope we'll get from Anvil Empires

[blazing coral]

I think once we get multiplayer in unstable people are going to test this out. It just needs to be more valuable for most people to trade with other rather than grind the exp to make stuff themselves in order for this dynamic to catch

[glacial cape]

I agree its probably not the most feasible of ideas for something like an public multiplayer server but with servers set up in project zomboid streamer/youtuber communities & roleplay servers I could see this being a huge deal for people who want to expand out into more professions

[heady field]

crash when using revolver

[vague trench]

Lol what is that resolution

[heady field]

its from my taskbar*

[vague trench]

Is thr magnum the revolver ? I forgets

[heady field]

the one revolver that can be attached to the ankle holster

I forgot the name, it start with M-

[vague trench]

Oh wtc thats awesome i found a magnum last night and never used it it was so loud lol, but awesome

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

for anyone that knows, so i ran out of my line formy fishing pole, im assuming you need the magazine to be able to add another line to it? says im missing the recipe for it but im able to make another pole itself lmfao

[heady field]

I think guns are still broken, gonna stick to melee x-x

[glacial cape]

Can anyone tell me why a fireaxe head isn't a suitable axe head(yet a sledgehammer head is???)

need a axe head to assemble a sledgehammer yet the fireaxe doesn't count for some reason

[fossil vector]

Is there a bug with dropping item in B42. I have a large stone in my inventory i can't drop or delete

[vapid trail]

i think they dont have the model nor the item itself for the reason
expect patches/updates to add it in

since firefighter axe is like a fast swinging melee, and it cant become a slow one

[vague trench]

Can you restart ur game?

[glacial cape]

I hope so because I only have 1 pickaxe I'd like to keep for mining mineral deposits yet I have 3 fireaxes its just a bit kinda frustrating that's all

[fossil vector]

I will try

[vapid trail]

for now, refer to debug

[vague trench]

The rock loves you lol

[glacial cape]

I've noticed that when mass dropping items I can't drop anything for a bit then it kind of fixes itself?

[glacial cape]

pet rock! @vapid trail It's fine I'll just hunt down one of those items with any luck I might find a sledge lol

[vapid trail]

okay then
fair one

[fossil vector]

It works thanks !

[fossil vector]

I think i have had the same problem, might be build42

[vague trench]

Yay, but also awh lol your rock friend lol

[glacial cape]

Yeah when I played b41 unstable I was getting the same issue it'll be fixed eventually

[cunning turtle]

[blazing coral]

lightswitches lose their orange glow once power runs out even if they are connected to a generator

[glacial cape]

Ik...

[vague trench]

Lol yah found that out the hard way and just had to sit in the dark

Being in the dark with damn rats scratching around

[fluid panther]

what is that???? xddd

[ornate laurel]

need large stones

[vapid trail]

bugged animation
the one where you aim at a crawling zed

[tawny orbit]

i cant install fucking brake in animal trailer

and i tried get tire iron but still cant install

[regal spindle]

Hm, whats a good way to get started with learning welding? with 0 skill in it and all

and why is welding needed for a bunch of weapon and armor recipes, I thoguht the whole point was to shunt craftables to metalworking and make welding the building world objects skill

[vague trench]

Try opebing and closing the menu?

[glacial cape]

As far as I know barricading/unbarricading windows & dismantling car wrecks gives welding xp but it's a pitiful amount and propane has got the same drain bug the batteries and car battery's are experiencing

[regal spindle]

at 0 skill it's just kinda like, there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to grind xp

[regal spindle]

wait is that why my car batteries have been strangely always in the orange?

[glacial cape]

Yes the drain on those thing is way too quick or bugged atm and with propane I've noticed the propane just dissappear completely

[glacial cape]

Yeah it's annoying I don't think there's any trait or profession which gives welding levels either so there's no possible boost for it, even with 0 skill and a 3x multiplayer from a skill book that's only 20xp from 1 car wreck which eats a full propane torch it's kinda ridiculous

[regal spindle]

I can make metal floors and that seems about it

[glacial cape]

Hoping this is one of the things which gets sorted sooner rather than later 2-3 weeks after the new years because right now welding just isn't worth it for the huge grind and with propane not being correct

[regal spindle]

for me I'm wandering why it's in item recipes at all

I thought the whole point was to divide crafting skills into items and structures

[glacial cape]

I guess they still want to keep metalworking, electrical and first aid in some capacity to further expand those crafting trees

And for armor it kinda makes sense to weld It together with tailoring

Maybe we'll get the vehicle armor they teased about

[regal spindle]

yeah but my 4 metalworking is completley unhelpful for half the metalworking recipes

[mossy delta]

hey guys are propane bottles usable in the current build?

[glacial cape]

They should include 1 or 2 levels of welding under the blacksmith occupation

Because I don't think metalworker is a thing anymore

[glacial cape]

You can't use them to refill propane torches or tanks but you can use them to refill lanterns

So for now they're kind of an alternate light source to torches

[mossy delta]

ohh alr thanks

[glacial cape]

Instead of being a direct light I think they're supposed to act as an area light

[regal spindle]

ok best grind method I've found is to build and dismantle a metal floor repeatedly at level 0

kinda dumb way to practice welding to me but ok

[glacial cape]

How much xp does that wield as opposed to barricading/unbarricading or car wrecks because you are kind of dumping away welding rods or whatever it costs to make the floor and the propane cost unless you get all that back when you dismantle the floor minus the propane

[muted sleet]

Hello everyone, after build 42.0.1 and 42.0.2, I was finally able to play a little bit of Project Zomboid on my Macbook. But unfortunately, at a certain point the game stops working. I can start a new save, and even play again, but again the game stops working after a while. I would like to know if there is anyone else here in the community who is trying to play through MacOS as well. Are you having the same difficulties? I know that future updates may fix these problems, but I would like to know if you have changed any performance settings that can avoid these problems or minimize them. Hugs and great Zomboid to all!

[regal spindle]

Not enough to feel worth it

[glacial cape]

I get removing the xp from dismantling metal furniture but why did they have to heavily nerf car wreck xp

[regal spindle]

like 10 with the level 1 book, looks like putting a metal sheet over a door gives me about 6 with that book active? your probably right about that

[glacial cape]

20+xp(with skill book) is pitiful I'm hoping this isn't intentional

[regal spindle]

Man they really went ham on the propane economy

[glacial cape]

I'm usually fine playing on 1xp in sp and 2x in mp but man it really makes me wanna boost the welding xp now because the idea of grinding welding just does not sound fun

[regal spindle]

I have the book bonus for level 1-2 and I'm still getting like 6 xp

god forbid you do this without the book

[glacial cape]

Needs to be some serious xp tweaking

If they want to encourage building & crafting as main xp sources we should get more for it

[regal spindle]

like even if I decide to do something fancier like cut this iron block into chunks, I get 9xp

[glacial cape]

Because I was building with carp and I could tell you I would be getting way more xp for dismantling right now

[regal spindle]

at least carp has things to make at the low levels, welding just has almost nothing you can do until level 3

[glacial cape]

Which recipe is this and does it cost propane?

I just wouldn't touch propane recipes till the propane deleting itself gets fixed

[regal spindle]

yeah 2 units

my propane seems fine so far?

[glacial cape]

Maybe it's fine in the crafting ui but my propane just up and deleted itself from my torch, 1 full propane torch dissappear into the aether and I lost a full tank of propane this one time

I do get its unstable btw its just a bit frustrating that's all most of the time when stuff like that happens though I usually just respawn it back in with debug

[regal spindle]

I have my propane tank just sat on the floor, you can thankfully craft things from nearby objects like the "refill propane" recipe

without having to cumbersomely pick it up

this is torturously slow though, I do kinda feel like I'll have to make welding 2x

[cunning turtle]

Katabolic looks like a intelligent person

[regal spindle]

um... thanks?

[glacial cape]

Guess I'm not

[glacial cape]

Guess its an problem with having it in your inventory and doing it? Have you experienced drain over time like myself and others have? https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1horllw/propane_tanks_and_batteries_problem/

[regal spindle]

no but I haven't been running around the world with them, I have noticed car batteries drain surprisingly quickly

so I'm not doubting y ou here

[glacial cape]

Guess next time I'll just do it from the floor

and yeah I'm upping welding to 2x as well

[regal spindle]

I hit level 2 welding, read the next book, put up a barricade and... 6 xp again, is the book bonus not applying correctly or something?

[glacial cape]

oh I never considered that

could checked if that's been reported because that does sound like a problem

let me hop into debug and do some tests

[regal spindle]

barricading might not count in particular so try also building something

[tawny orbit]

i did but brake do not show in menu vehicle

[regal spindle]

seems to apply correctly when I make a metal floor, I think barricading just doesn't benefit from the book bonus

[glacial cape]

barricading should count though

weird

oh turns out there is a welder profession :P Idk why it can't just be merged together with blacksmith but just tweak the metalworking levels and increase point cost

as far as I can see as well there's no trait which gives +1 welding

[vague trench]

What tools are you using i can try and make a new save and see ifni have same issue

[tawny orbit]

look photo

[vague trench]

Ok gimme a few

[tawny orbit]

i was using jack and lug wrench

then no work, so i try tire iron but didn't work

and i was try use both it and no work

me was like what

[regal spindle]

ok I swear hunger didn't use to be this naggy, I can't do anything without a snack break

[dawn elm]

Foraging seems to be very useful

[vague trench]

im blind so sorry is it this trailer or lol

[tawny orbit]

ye

that animal trailer

i was trying replace new tire but it say required brake so i brought here but still cant install

[vague trench]

yah thats so weird lol i dont even see brake

[tawny orbit]

ngl

trailer need remove brake because trailer is not controlled by car only light

only suspension fine

[mossy tangle]

Oh wow, thread is even degrading like batteries and propane so tailoring is broken

[vague trench]

no way lol

[mossy tangle]

I had two stacks now of like 50-70 thread disappear

[vague trench]

wait try finding a tire iron too? lol

[mossy tangle]

Kept thinking I lost it so I put the second one in an obvious place, drove away, and it disappeared when I came back lol

[vague trench]

lol the batteries ate it

[tawny orbit]

yea

wasted my time

[vague trench]

was this crafted thread ?

[mossy tangle]

Yeah ‘picked’ from rags

[vague trench]

damn that sucks, ill key an eye out on trailers and see if i have any of the same problem

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2008-gif-gif-26692985

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2020-dog-gif-15940798

[glacial cape]

@regal spindle Ok so from testing with a 3x skill book multiplier barricading a window still only granted me 6xp on 1x xp settings default apoc, building a metal floor & dismantling it didn't yield any xp regardless of the book multiplier or not and 1 car wreck dismantled gave me 3.75xp without a multiplier & with a multiplier it was 12xp

what I'm most shocked about still is the xp from car wrecks that's a massive decrease compared to build 41

[regal spindle]

it was progbably targeted, car wreck dismantling used to be a way to speedlevel

that seems to be a theme in b42, going for the meta speed strats and replacing them with er... not terribly much actually

[glacial cape]

Yeah I understand that but right now currently at least there;s not many great ways to level welding any other welding tests you want me to do?

[regal spindle]

not really, I was just bellyaching about that 0-2 section being painful

I do feel some of the changes in b42 are a result of overcorrection though

[glacial cape]

I imagine it'll get tweaked eventually especially the whole building & crafting part of xp

right now the xp you get from doing those two activities is bad

I understand though that dismantling shouldn't be the main way anymore

so I guess the only need to get rid off wrecks now is just to remove them and for welding supplies?

I'm still going to boost my welding xp to 2x could you tell me how you did that mid game?

[regal spindle]

any mod that lets you mess with sandbox settings midgame

there's a few

[glacial cape]

Ah guess that's the first and only mod I'm adding lol

[regal spindle]

just go search on workshop and tick the build 42 category

[spare breach]

i think dismantling should always give you a little xp when it comes to carpentry/welding, but it should be considerably lower than other ways

when it comes to electrical, it seems reasonable to both DO get and get quite a bit of XP from it because realistically you will probably learn much more about how a electronic device works by taking it apart compared to dismantling a piece of wood

[keen gorge]

It should give XP but give them at exponentially lower rates at higher levels

[glacial cape]

Even so you could still probably learn some things from woodworking by dismantling its called reverse engineering

[keen gorge]

You won't learn just by dismantling things

If that's how it works irl, I should have already surpassed computer engineers since I dismantle a lot of PCs

[glacial cape]

yeah but combined with some recipe or something you could learn something

applying knowledge & practical application at the same time to understand how something works

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dahmer-jeffrey-dahmer-jeff-jeffrey-serial-killer-gif-10286851532195727102

[keen gorge]

Maybe something like prototypes

[glacial cape]

well we do have makeshift electrical devices which are probably close enough to that

[cunning turtle]

[keen gorge]

Like, you can build anything. There's no level limitations but they only become functional once you reach X level

[glacial cape]

Kinda like how abiotic factor does its prototypes?

[keen gorge]

I'm not far along Abiotic yet so I can't comment on that yet

[glacial cape]

I've never played it before myself I just know its got a thing about prototyping buildables, objects items etc

[keen gorge]

Like, lets say you can build a bookshelf at carpentry level 0 but it falls apart if you put any weight on it

Or something along those lines

Then it gets progressively better once your technique (level) improves

[glacial cape]

it would certainly be an interesting mechanic

[vague trench]

?? lol

[elder flax]

some of these schematics have actual recipes in them, for survivallist type gear, like spiked armor and such

[vague trench]

theres nothing in this one lol

its special

[elder flax]

agreed, should be protected and preserved at all cost

[frozen wyvern]

Maybe learning nothing is truly learning everything...

[vague trench]

lol

big brain schematics!

[granite tusk]

happy new year little furries

[vague trench]

happy snackyear

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/2019-happy-new-years-fire-works-gif-13184126

[glacial cape]

happy new year

[elder flax]

What timezone you guys in

Here its still 6 1/2 hours to go

[keen gorge]

Bro's a time traveler

[keen gorge]

Probably east

Somewhere around Australia?

[vague trench]

im in tx, usa lol

so a while lol

can we dry or will be able to dry herbs for seasonings?

[glacial cape]

GMT still gonna wish people happy new year though lol if it is for them

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/2014-gif-22209405

[vague trench]

would be cool if we had calendars in pz lol

[lucid ginkgo]

Any ideas on why this isn't considered roofed?

[glacial cape]

have you got corner pillars for your walls? Or are those fences I can't tell

everything is all fogged out as well

[lucid ginkgo]

I've got pillars situated in hte middle of hte walls on either side

I can take a closer screenshot once it's not foggy

[wet timber]

My current pz goals is to wait for TIS to fix underground places so they'll become livable, then I'll use excavation mod to dig up a gnome cave under gnome factory

This will be my ultimate base, completely decorated with gnome statues.

[rocky copper]

is slicing up stuff bugged rn? will it give me cherry pie or its fine

i made a banger pie

[glacial cape]

turkey, fish & mushroom pie

[shut burrow]

why does it say turkey dfille and mushroom

[rocky copper]

because thats what i made

[shut burrow]

just leave

[rocky copper]

turkey pie with mushrooms, and its saying output will result in cherry pie

[wet timber]

That magically turns into cherry pie slices

[vague trench]

lol what the heck

tis pie lol

[rocky copper]

i know dividing food into bowl make condiments disappear thats why im scared to cut it up (but i need that baking tray)

b42 and its bugs ✨

guys imma risk the biscuit and tell yall the result

[vague trench]

lol yea good ole unstable

[rocky copper]

goodbye pie

[vague trench]

not gonna lie that sounds delish

[rocky copper]

you cant even do it lol progress bar gets stuck

[vague trench]

LOL

[vague trench]

im confusioned lol

[rocky copper]

about what? i made a turkey pie but game says it will result in cherry pie if i cut it up

i got an error and now its done condiments gone just as i expected, dont cut up pies guys

[vague trench]

it says pie is raw lol but its cooked

[frozen wyvern]

Those little sparkles mean that the output changes based on the input i think

[rocky copper]

there are 2 types, savory and sweet, raw probably is savory

but idk honestly, this update confused me

[vague trench]

ohh okay lol , yah little fricky n stuff

[rocky copper]

also guys, a singular pie piece weights 1.46 lol, the whole pie weighted that much

[cunning turtle]

Like irl

[rocky copper]

imma binge eat all

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[rocky copper]

https://tenor.com/view/ponteverga-einstein-think-use-your-brain-gif-16196415

pretty sure the weight of a piece of pie increases if you subdivide it but idk im not that smart (it does in pz and pz = realism)

so it must be like rl

[cunning turtle]

I'm not that smart either

[vague trench]

yea when it comes to math if it aint done in crayon im not going to get it lol

[cunning turtle]

Can relate

[wet timber]

Also not worth it because full pie is -104 hunger and cut one is -80

[rocky copper]

yeah, and condiments gets removed 😦

also same thing with bowl and plates, and you can also duplicate bowls and plates that way

it would be good if they fixed this soon because going on long trips bread and pies are probably the best thing to bring with you (5 days to get stale and 7 to rot)

[wet timber]

I have no idea what is condiments

[rocky copper]

assuming you ran out of canned food

[lucid ginkgo]

A better view of my sheep pen, trying to figure out why it's saying Roofed Area: 0

[wet timber]

I translated

[rocky copper]

you can just google it

[wet timber]

Yeah

[rocky copper]

it gives happiness and boredom in pz

[glacial cape]

I could be wrong but it looks like you don't have a roof over the whole area highlighted

before going into the effort of doing that though I'd first recommend testing out how to roof an area in debug mode

[vague trench]

like ketchup n stuff

seasonings lol

like this i tink

[wet timber]

Damn, I translated already. Thanks anyway

[vague trench]

yar im slow lol

[lucid ginkgo]

Highlighted in blue you mean? That's the animal area, it shouldn't need a roof over the entire thing to count right?

[rocky copper]

i love this update, despite all the unpolished stuff you can be now fully self sustaining, i can make all the condiments that were previously only lootable... My cooking side really blooms in b42

[glacial cape]

Not sure but its worth testing in debug just incase

[lucid ginkgo]

I just find it weird that it says zero tiles are roofed

[vague trench]

yah i really love all the seasonings n stuff that really helps with things i really hope we can dry herbs n stuff for them

[glacial cape]

maybe the wood floors don't even count as a roofed area either

[rocky copper]

possible, or he has to have walls on 3 sides, he only got on 2

[lucid ginkgo]

No I have it on 3, the southern-western end is a pre-existing building

For what it's worth it even lowers the brightness when I go under it, as if it were roofed

Upper view

[rocky copper]

are there rooftiles ingame?

id make a bug report or try to expand that makeshift barn a little bit

it might be just its size

[lucid ginkgo]

That's what I'm wondering

Maybe it's too smol

[rocky copper]

also try to make it separate from the main building

[lucid ginkgo]

Interesting...is it only counting the stair's roof tile?

[vocal sentinel]

This is a know problem from b41 I guess they haven’t changed it yet. They might change it in a later update of b42

[digital cloud]

has anyone snorted whiteout yet

my favorite activity

[vague trench]

yah lol

i tried to kill myself with it

[lucid ginkgo]

Yup, it was counting only the stair's landing tile as a roof. Guess we'll wait to see if they fix it.

Kinda a bummer though, don't animals only breed if they have a roofed area?

[vague trench]

i forget is it these to repair generator?

[glacial cape]

Did you replace the fencing with walls?

[waxen oar]

does anyone know if farming/Agriculture is bugged atm?

[lucid ginkgo]

Yes

[glacial cape]

Weird I would hop onto debug and test it out but I'm going away for a new years party soon I was going to say maybe there needs to be no fences but that doesn't seem right it could just be maybe the stairs floor tile is your roof starting point?

if so that would be really weird though

[glacial cape]

yes scrap electronics is what you use to repair generators it also gives you xp for fixing generators

[vague trench]

i think someone mentioned regular crops from 41 are ok but the new ones are kinda weird

[vague trench]

yay thanks so much

[glacial cape]

someone mentioned to me that all the crops need is one boost of fertilizer but I haven't tested if it that's true or not yet

[lucid ginkgo]

I was in debug to quick-build the newer barn area, is there a command or setting I can run to check if something is considered "roofed"?

[glacial cape]

and I'm unsure if compost works

[lucid ginkgo]

i don't use debug mode often, only to quick-build and give items lol

[glacial cape]

Not sure I mainly do the same things in debug or to test xp rates I gtg anyways I hope you find someone else more experienced with debug mode to help you out with your problem though

[vague trench]

yah i planted a pumpkin and watered it and went exploring in a car and came back and it was dead lol

ill have to try with fertilizer or something then

[waxen oar]

i have been doing testing and winter wheat grew just fine. The health on the crop was staying at 100 with 1 fertilizer and 1 compost but any other crop seems to just keep losing health no matter with 1 fertilizer and 1 compost. Its just really weird

[vague trench]

lol this battery thats dead just doesnt exist

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[lament crow]

Whats the difference between mixing and making a bucket of clay cement?

[vague trench]

do you have a pic ?

[lament crow]

they say they need the exact same thing a bucket, clay and sand

[vague trench]

are you by a crafting table or anything?

i just see this one

[lament crow]

Nope walking away doesnt change i still got the both

maybe cuz of a mod

[vague trench]

oh ya prolly

[glacial cape]

Maybe it's either only the winter crops, some specific crops or like someone mentioned before the b41 crops like cabbages survive more often

[vague trench]

rofl

[waxen oar]

I think its something to do with a stat on the crop called cursed. I saw someone talking about it in this chat a while back but for some reason that stat just slowly kill a crop. There is a mod to remove that stat/debuff and I might start playing with that until TIS fix this bug. Well I think its a bug, tbh I don't really know if it is.

[real fox]

HUHHH???

[vague trench]

lol

HUUUGGG BUNNNIEs

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hay-rabbit-bunny-bnuuy-stare-gif-10844987980398156826

[keen gorge]

Cursed stat is tied to growing seasons

You get it if you plant a crop outside of its growing season

[waxen oar]

I know im planting them in the right growing season

[keen gorge]

What's weird is it still seems to pop up even if you disable growing seasons in sandbox

So something about them is bugged

[keen gorge]

If I check the code, in SFarmingSystem.lua, it applies itself to all generic objects if seasons is set on but in farming_vegetableconf.lua, it applies itself globally whenever badPlant() function is called and doesn't check for seasons

Might be what's causing the agriculture bugs

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah i planted a lot of crops in what the game said was their planting season and they all still die lol

Ok well not all of them but a substantial portion do, even with plenty of water

[waxen oar]

Its just best either disable planting seasons or use a mode that is on the workshop

[ornate laurel]

@frozen wyvern @keen gorge yeah my own testing has shown Seasons aren't working right, disabling them at game start or with the Sandbox Settings mod is what you should do

[ornate laurel]

i wonder what it would take to fix it? might make a good mod before the Devs fix this

[waxen oar]

In this image is vanilla and that cursed:True stat will always kill the crop slowly

[hallow adder]

A bit outdated.

[keen gorge]

It seems to be skipping some checks which is why the cursed status is being applied indiscriminately

[true smelt]

Does anyone know where to find Mineral now?

[waxen oar]

there is already a mod called [B42] Uncursed Plants by Kisheen if you want a work around until TIS fixes this bug

[hallow adder]

What mineral?

[true smelt]

Ore*

[keen gorge]

Mining not yet implemented

[true smelt]

Strange, they told me it had been

So the pickaxe still serves no purpose?

[ornate laurel]

killing Zeds is still a thing it's good at

[keen gorge]

Well, you can "mine" i.e. pick up small and large stones off the ground

But those large ore veins you see sometimes in the forest? Not yet minable

[true smelt]

I made a mistake then, so thanks for the answer friend 😄

[ornate laurel]

also after using a Pickaxe for Survey work i am amused at how you need tools to take the head off the handle lmao

[hallow adder]

Now I need to do a full sandbox no zombies run where I'm just trying my darndest to build a house.

[true smelt]

Has anyone found out where to find food for animals? Where do these new items respawn now?

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption2building-house-gif-gif-25587106

[ornate laurel]

you can use a scythe to cut tall grass

[true smelt]

And also that tool for cleaning animal skin

[hallow adder]

This GIF doesn't do much justice when it's skipping frames this much....

[true smelt]

But, have you found out where you can find it?

[ornate laurel]

barns

[hallow adder]

Basements

[true smelt]

and.. fleshing tools?

[ornate laurel]

"flashing?"

[hallow adder]

...flashing tools?

[ornate laurel]

or you mena "fleshing" tool?

[hallow adder]

TOOLS... CAN FLASH?

[true smelt]

fleshing* 😂

Sorry Guys XD my english is so bad

[hallow adder]

(Pokemon Mystery Dungeon reference, for context.)

[true smelt]

anyone?

[hallow adder]

Why would the game have fleshing tools?

Not that it means something...

[ornate laurel]

leather making my dood

[hallow adder]

[true smelt]

😂

[hallow adder]

Count me wrong.

[civic drum]

Possibly odd question: Anyone know a use for all of the dung, or is it just compost material?

[true smelt]

I am Brazilian, and the game is not fully translated with the new update yet. Can you tell me the entire process for cleaning leather? What are the names of the machines for each stage?

[hallow adder]

I'm not Brazilian, so I cannot tell you the names of the machines. I'm also not familiar with the process.

[true smelt]

The purpose of each one, in English then. 😂

I bet we'll have a new bag to put the grains in SOON 😂

What is the purpose of this item?

[frozen wyvern]

Flax is used to weave clothes at a loom, i guess

[mild axle]

Is yeast craftable

Someone please let me know

[lucid ginkgo]

Beware this spot at this house, it's actually a hole and you'll fall right through it

There's a fireplace where you land, it probably thinks that spot is part of the chimney

[pallid hinge]

Is it? Has fishing changed since 13 days ago?

It was the only guide on it that I could find

[real fox]

What city

[lucid ginkgo]

Not sure the name, it's the town west of Eagle Creek

[real fox]

Shieeeet

How would you even save yourself from ending a save like that haha I’m paranoid now

[lucid ginkgo]

you only fall one floor, it doesn't kill you the first time or second time, I don't learn from mistakes

[real fox]

Thank god lmfao

[keen gorge]

So I'm pretty sure there's only 2 main machines for leather, the drying rack (has 3 different sizes) and the tanning barrel

You need to remove the flesh first and then remove the fur

Then you need a bowl of brain tan to tan the leather at the barrel

After that you go dry it at the drying rack

[rocky copper]

which site is the new map on

[keen gorge]

You mean the interactive map?

B42map.com

[opaque schooner]

^^^^^^

[civic drum]

Anyone else notice that tents don't go where they're supposed to?

[ornate laurel]

nope!

need to see if Dried rye, wheat, and barely sheafs can count as animal feed tho

[civic drum]

Wheat does.

[ornate laurel]

not the other 2?

[keen gorge]

They seem to eat anything

[civic drum]

Haven't tested the other two.

[ornate laurel]

chickens don't seem to eat animal feed at least

[civic drum]

You sure about that? They seem to for me.

They jsut eat everything else first.

[keen gorge]

Yeah it seems they prioritize hay and grass

[ornate laurel]

might be me giving my chickens enough room to not need the trough i filled? (and/or not having many chickens)

but it's been a while since i saw said trough go down (iirc need to double check)

hay and grass included

[true smelt]

Bro, I love you 🥲

https://tenor.com/view/reencuentros-reencuentro-de-amigos-gif-25017874

[glacial cape]

No use it doesn't turn into compost for some reason so it's mainly just litter

[civic drum]

Oh that sucks, compost would make sense, sort of.

[glacial cape]

Agreed at least with the bigger animals like a cow

[lethal wolf]

litter that never despawns, thats the worst

[glacial cape]

Agreed I tried adding it to the item removal list but it didn't seem to work

[vague trench]

trash?! GIMME TRASH

[blazing coral]

put in a zombie and burn it?

[vague trench]

lol the great stinker

[keen gorge]

If PZ is realistic, I should be able to use that litter as a component to make bombs

[frozen wyvern]

I mean theoretically that might come in the future

[ornate laurel]

yup they do infact use feeding troughs lmao
my blind ass just didn't notice lmao

[vague trench]

put them in paper bag and light on my friends front porch

[lethal wolf]

I'll just pick the endless dung up (my chickens managed to poop IN the lake, away from shore somehow) and line it up around the island as a hazardous radiation zone. If any zombies try to approach, Pat Bren will appear and fuck em up saying "this isn't Fallout"

[chilly hawk]

guys anyy news about multiplayer/

[vague trench]

nopers , they been on holiday so havent even started hofixn yet to get things fixed n balanced first

[keen gorge]

I cancelled it

[chilly hawk]

😦

[vague trench]

"ligma" lol

[lethal wolf]

mindgoblin ya own business

[vague trench]

hahaha

[lethal wolf]

it is 2025 for me, may this year be grand for PZ

[vague trench]

yay

i cant wait for hotfixs!!!

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

maybe theyll do the soda one last , yes yes ,

maybe all the caffeine is being drained from all the batteries in the world

[lethal wolf]

until farming works properly, I'll keep my soda

batteries would be nice too, and propane

[vague trench]

lol

[versed dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-hank-hill-laughing-hell-gif-7615024

[lethal wolf]

every litter item that gets destroyed via trashcan should arrive to Puppers save files

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-on-the-matrix-keanu-reeves-neo-gif-17795234

[hallow adder]

There is a new fishing video guide on how to reel in your fish.

It goes a bit in depth on how you "feel" and "control" your fishing lines.

[vague trench]

its like fishing irl!

https://tenor.com/view/betta-fish-betta-bettaguy-flaring-purple-gif-25274220

not sure why that came up as combat fishing but ok lol

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-fish-machine-gun-rifle-river-pescas-gif-12698559

[vague trench]

ok homer lol

[whole tundra]

whered you get this map sorry?

[keen gorge]

B42map.com

[lucid ginkgo]

^

[vague trench]

lol you can get rags and thread from picking up carpet??

[blazing finch]

Huh...

[vague trench]

lmao hang on ill record

[blazing finch]

Interesting

[vague trench]

im trying to pick up this carpet to take home but it has a 65% break chance

and now its not doing it when i record lol wtf!!

[whole tundra]

cheers

[velvet egret]

[jade haven]

Isn't that the abandoned sanatorium?

[blazing coral]

damn you are right. I thought the sanatorium was elsewhere

[hot grail]

There was a construction site in that exact place in B41

Took me a while to find the sanatorium cause I thought the construction site was still there lol

[queen shadow]

Happy new year from Germany y'all

[blazing coral]

I also thought it would be smaller

I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the thursdoid trailer for it lol

[blazing coral]

happy new year, future man

[glacial cape]

Happy new year from the UK

[true smelt]

Happy new year

[true smelt]

Happy new year!

We'll be there in a little while

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-fireworks-animated-text-2018-gif-10651525

[true smelt]

2018? lol

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2020-dog-gif-15940798

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-justin-bieber-2010-gif-8567100

[true smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2009-gif-gif-26692979

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2008-gif-gif-26692985

[true smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye2020hello2021-mrbeast-hello2021a-new-years-eve-celebration-happy-new-years-hny-gif-19782269

[nova iron]

https://tenor.com/view/new-year-gif-27326639

[true smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-ano-nuevo-2020-happy-new-year-gif-15929651

I'm so excited for Build 42, Louisville and so much more!

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[vague trench]

lmao nooo

trash bag gang

[whole tundra]

need bears and all that

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/kristigocouple2024-gif-5382802760397378723

[whole tundra]

bears and wolves would be awesome

[blazing finch]

how do i make coke?

[cunning turtle]

My auntie

[true smelt]

It's my mom

[dawn elm]

7:28 pm in my time zone until new years

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

From the thumb nail I thought the deer on the right was a baboon 😆

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/where-travolta-gif-11131745

Where link? 😸

[cunning turtle]

[velvet egret]

not exactly a fishing video, but the 5:50 mark goes over the fishing aspect: https://youtu.be/JdbZjnGUVU4?si=Nk8lYVbwyaQGAUzo

[subtle tendon]

ITS 2025 WHERE IS THE MAC UPDATE RAAAAAH

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[vague trench]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/easy-there-spartacus-calm-down-chill-relax-whoa-there-gif-15073839

[rocky copper]

anyone knows what level you have to be to unlock firebombs and those new makeshift weapons?

[keen gorge]

Most makeshift weapons need maintenance

Maintenance 1-2

[rocky copper]

hmm im at level 3 and still cant craft most

im guessing level 4 or higher

talking about these

[keen gorge]

You need to find its magazine first

[granite tusk]

Morning

[keen gorge]

Those with the book icon are locked till you read its corresponding magazine

[rocky copper]

so theres no way for me to learn their recipe by leveling up skills? I heard its possible

[keen gorge]

I forgot what skill level you need to autolearn that

Magazine lets you unlock early so maybe its autolearned by carpentry 4-5

Here it is

You need axe 5 as well to autolearn

[rocky copper]

oh wow, thats a lot of levels

axe 5 too

thing is i have been magazine hunting but they are so hard to come by (i know some mags arent spawning rn) so yeah, and now my world gone decayed and theres even less loot than it was in the first 2 months

does anyone know what are the places that these weapon mags spawn at now?

[keen gorge]

1. Survivors
2. Gun stores
3. Camp stores

Descending order on where you're most likely to get them. Survivors are almost always guaranteed to spawn with either a skillbook or a magazine (sometimes both)

[true smelt]

2025

In Brazil

[keen gorge]

Wdym 2025 its only 2019

[true smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-2010-caper-pea-arknights-gif-12583748616722098525

[true smelt]

No, its 2010

[real fox]

No it’s 2012 and the world is ending

https://tenor.com/view/glerm-glorp-cat-erm-gif-116397764024710755

[true smelt]

No it's 2011, and project zomboid will be lauched

[keen gorge]

It's 2009 and I'm about to attend Hawking's party

[true smelt]

It's 2077 and Cyberpunk 2077 was right

https://tenor.com/view/cyberbugs-cyp-cyberpunk-bugs-schrottspiel-gif-22654394

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-wow-pog-omg-cyberpunk-gif-26953743

[true smelt]

I bought this game at the beginning of the year and I totally regret it 😅 It's not my style

My style:

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-red-dead-redemption2-arthur-morgan-sunset-sun-gif-26945027

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-project-zomboid-surprise-lostaffinity-gif-4624726767876057455

[keen gorge]

I've been on and off PZ since B38, it'll grow on you

[rocky copper]

thanks, well my situation is hopeless then. Can gas stations have them also?

[keen gorge]

Nope, not unless a survivor zed spawns there or something

[true smelt]

I've been project zomboid since the beginning of 2016, and I get nostalgic seeing those graphics

[keen gorge]

The good old days when short blade was the ultimate king

[true smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URc8GXNOt9w&list=PLF1AF4326207D0864&index=3

At the time I was 9 years old, and I was so afraid to leave the house lol

[vague trench]

can wanimasl walk through furniture lol

[rocky copper]

I kinda like that

[pallid hinge]

yea known issue

[granite tusk]

wonderful meta event on a gas station

[vague trench]

no i want them to lol

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[vague trench]

like if i place a table an dshit lol

they need the best place ever

[true smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfKT-nG4BxA

Good moments

the sound....

[rocky copper]

Dude is making a 5 star motel for his sheeps

[vague trench]

lol

hes clearing judging me

[rocky copper]

Might as well live like a cow

You forgot the jacuzzi

[vague trench]

wait hang on, i got just the thing

there

[woven beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[hidden path]

building the wooden pole might be meta for carpentry

you can build it ontop of itself and its super cheap plus if you dismantle it you get some resources back

the XP is also higher than a lot of other options

[dawn elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQoQFkX0ztY how players hotwire cars after stealing one.

[velvet marsh]

zomboid updated again, i wonder what changed?

[keen gorge]

PSA for spear mains: There are 3 primary skills for spears now. They're knapping, carving, and maintenance

High carving means a better condition spear. Knapping for the spearheads (or just fireharden them if you're low level at knapping)

Also spears are the best for combat maintenance since combat maintenance has two ways to gain XP in B42. One is through regular use, the other is when your weapon loses condition