Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[wispy yew]

Indeed saying the same thing in different ways 😄

[timid seal]

Lemmy made a post on reddit about the unfinished crafting systems, I believe he mentioned that

[spare breach]

Hello fellow zomboids, i was wondering if the requirements for your characters to not continue losing weight change as the weight becomes lower and lower at all? i.e. going from 80 to 75 being easier than going from 75 to 70

because despite making good food, i still keep losing weight and it is concerning

[frozen wyvern]

Honestly im not sure about the specifics

[spare breach]

Only time i was GAINING weight was when i was downing entire packages of icecream

[frozen wyvern]

All i know is i cram high calorie foods when im losing too much weight

[spare breach]

pretty much

i dont know what food is high calorie because it doesnt show me a lot of the time

[frozen wyvern]

The nutrition system isnt super balanced atm

Like eating chickebs or chicken products wont give yoy any weight

[spare breach]

yeah its crazy

[vague trench]

if im sitting at home doing not much i gain weight , someone mentioned it in here and i tried it and it works if you eat the right things

[spare breach]

bruuuh

well all i mainly have atm is canned goods and chicken/fish meat

ill go and see if not actually doing anything increases my weight

cause for example i remember downing a entire icecream in one go and i was gaining weight even when actively doing something

[vague trench]

its so hard cause i cannot sit still like that lol

[spare breach]

I have some skill books to read up on i think, so it shouldnt be too bad

[wispy yew]

Beauty I was hoping that to be the case, hence why I posted the hope to see if there was a possibility and to drive the conversation in the direction I hope for. Thanks for the info!

[spare breach]

im so mad i damaged my new car's trunk, initially it had 20 more encumbrance capacity than my previous van but now it is 10 less than my previous van

[blazing coral]

Cat eyes is too good now

[spare breach]

NOOOO MY CHICKEN MEAT HAS GONE STALE

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-13328108869509964634

I have like 5 pieces left

[wispy yew]

Mine is wayy darker and I have cat eyes as well, very interesting...

[blazing coral]

I was wondering if there is moonlight but I don't think so

[wispy yew]

I'll send a screenshot when it is night in game so we can compare

[wispy yew]

Valid thought but I don't think so either would be wicked cool though!

[blazing coral]

just season it a bit more

https://tenor.com/view/door-hinge-fly-bread-pizza-gif-13588557

[spare breach]

even just adding it into a stir-fry removes the debuffs lol its silly

[mossy tangle]

What’s wrong with batteries specifically right now? Mine seem to work 2 months in. Do they drain in storage or once installed in a flashlight!

[blazing coral]

they seem to be draining in storage. I had 2 full ones stores with some almost empty ones and last time I checked they were all almost empty

[tired hill]

mmm, batteries seem fine to me

maybe I just haven't noticed it yet

[spare breach]

living the good life is ee

i have a lot of seasonings too, my main problem is keeping enough weight on my body

also somehow my pan of water is bugged so i cannot make stew/soup with it anymore. Frustrating

[cunning turtle]

Shotgun

[real fox]

SADLY NOT

but im finally building for once in this game and learning how to cook

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[cunning turtle]

Well they kinda nerfed the shotgun now so

[gloomy dome]

Is this official information?
Or the private opinion of one of the users?
Because I'm starting to get a little worried, lol.

[real fox]

if its not by the devs then i would take it with a grain of salt

[cunning turtle]

Luna knows

[real fox]

perfomance has significantly improved with build 42, but going forward its likely they may add mechanics that might be more cpu demanding but hardly worth a whole new processor worth

[cunning turtle]

And it's a unstable version so of course it maybe won't be smooth for now

[blazing coral]

I stopped my car to check the map and happened to be beside one of those events where the zombies are devouring a corpse on the ground. I never got the chance to hear the sounds before now...

[gloomy dome]

My anxiety level has gone down a little bit, guys.
Thank you for your answers.

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

What did u hear

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[granite tusk]

From what I've seen, yes

It's way more demanding than previous branches

[cunning turtle]

It's because the new illumination system

[granite tusk]

but who cares just smash in betterfps mod and lower your render distance ×.×

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbread-man-gingerbread-cursed-justman-gateau-gif-24925858

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/glerm-glorp-cat-erm-gif-116397764024710755

[safe fable]

Hello! Does anyone know if any fix/progress for the AMD bug has come up?

[ornate laurel]

you don't have a bowl to make salad?

[safe fable]

Thanks for the info tho!

[spare breach]

brother i do not have any vegetables to make a salad with

most of what i have left is chicken and fish meat + canned food

[ornate laurel]

no you make "salad" with a bowl that can be almost anything

including sliced bread "salad" that is only bread

[spare breach]

wtf lol

i dont want to cheese the game too much tho

[ornate laurel]

so you can throw stale chicken into a bowl and get a fresh salad

[vague trench]

this is the best generator EVAR the crusty snail

[dawn elm]

Noice

[ornate laurel]

only decreases durability "slightly" less than the Blue Valutech generators

[vague trench]

its the happy cruster

[ornate laurel]

okay ignore my peanut galery-ing

[vague trench]

i dont get it lol im dumb

wait does the durability go down more lol

[ornate laurel]

yes

[vague trench]

noice lol

i mainly got it just to charge dang batteries for cars

the battery curse !!!

[real fox]

WHY DO THESE RAMS GOT BIG BALLS BRO

[ornate laurel]

it is accurate tbf

[real fox]

on some red dead redemption 2 shit hahaha

[ornate laurel]

Spoilerd for Sheep Testicles

[real fox]

GAW DAMN

[ornate laurel]

before you ask yes i opened an incognito tab for that google search

[opaque schooner]

What do you mean by this

[opaque schooner]

Oh my god

😭

[ornate laurel]

someone else also noticed a similar feature of Cattle Bulls

#pz_b42_chat message

#pz_b42_chat message

scroll down a bit from the second one

[valid escarp]

goat balls

[mossy tangle]

Wow so based on taking nutritionist milk has no calories?

[ornate laurel]

i think nutritionist doesn't work with milk properly right now

using a Status bar mod and i saw hunger, thirst, and calories go up drinking sheeps milk

[real fox]

you can use milk to make butter

[mossy tangle]

Oh interesting, I’ve drank ungodly amounts and not seen a full moodle or weight go up

[mossy tangle]

Yeah I just feel a little silly doing it at 500ml per lb of butter haha feels so broken

[ornate laurel]

and doing so gives you like, 6x the calories you'd get out of the milk normally

[pallid hinge]

A bit late but gonna mention most canned goods have terrible caloric value in PZ (even in B41) - I haven't done much with chickens so I can't talk about it, but as people have said they haven't been balanced yet . Fish is pretty decent. The more actions you do the more calories you burn. If you turn on debug and take a look even standing still in your base you will see the calorie bar burning away super quick, it is pretty wild

[real fox]

wtf your right lmfao ?????

[mossy tangle]

Right? Should take upwards of 10 liters or a whole bucket if it’s high fat like sheep’s milk I think

[ornate laurel]

(technically it's closer to 2/3rds of a pound but still)

yeah IRL you'd need a looot more milk and you'd have some skim milk left over as well

[pallid hinge]

Gosh I need to start churning out butter 😸

[mossy tangle]

How long till I can make whey protein in game hahaha

[pallid hinge]

likely soon with mods

GOLD STANDARD

[ornate laurel]

(i know i posted this to the same picture earlier and i do not care)

[spare breach]

hopefully something they will take a loot at for B43 unstable and beyond

once Crafting/professions is something mostly done

and the medical system

[pallid hinge]

Likely it will get balanced during unstable's patch cycle

[pallid hinge]

Is it chocolate flavour?

[real fox]

coffee :)

[ornate laurel]

i can't wait for stuff like fermenting hops into alcohol or cultivating Yeast

[spare breach]

yeast mrbeast

[pallid hinge]

Good choice 😁

[ornate laurel]

once we can make Yeast then plating Wheat, rye, and Barely will become actualyl useful longterm

(unless you can put the dried sheafs into feeding troughs?)

[granite tusk]

proteins and other nutrition facts FINALLY aren't just a dummy value doing no shit

[ornate laurel]

oooh?

[granite tusk]

protein < -1500 will decrease healing speed by 20%

and up to 50% if protein < -1000

[spare breach]

wtf

[ornate laurel]

what about being maxed out on protein?

[granite tusk]

if protein is in between 50~300, it'll also increase passive skills (strength/fitness) xp gain by 1.5x

[ornate laurel]

it does that in B41

[granite tusk]

i never played b41.

[ornate laurel]

but the healing thing feels like a B42 thing

[worthy elbow]

Guys, how do I transport chickens? More than one

[granite tusk]

oddly lipids does the same thing
20~50% healing speed decrease on low conditions

[ornate laurel]

need a livestock trailer

[worthy elbow]

tks

[blazing coral]

ekron might be my favorite new town. one block you can hear a pindrop the next there's 4 hordes hanging around

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-turkey-gif-1700303235544223898

[vague trench]

yah i love that echo creek start

lots of good spots and ekron is crazy lol went there n died

can you use this for fuel? i dunno what to do with all this damn wood

[spare breach]

not sure

i know that charcoal is used in blacksmithing

[vague trench]

my dang stove is full so i cant test

[spare breach]

WHAT HAHAHAHA I DONT REMEMBER PUTTING IT THERE

[ornate laurel]

healthy

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[vague trench]

LOL WAIT DID IT HATCH IN HERE?

[spare breach]

wait shit that might be possible, i have like 15 eggs stored in the fridge

[ornate laurel]

this is why i cook my Eggs before putting them in the freezer

[vague trench]

LOL

cause i put a egg in the fridge and it fertilized itslef

[spare breach]

i guess this one liked the cold

[vague trench]

time for some science lol

[ornate laurel]

i need to do some -debug sciencing as well for this

[vague trench]

hahah

wait so for winter , i know animals are wip and bare bones right now do we have to worry about them much during winter?

[spare breach]

ok i think the devs didnt account for something and that'd be using the liquid transfer mechanic to fill up containers for cooking soup or stew because when you do it through that, you do not get the prompt to make any food

[ornate laurel]

they do not seem to be affected by cold

[vague trench]

ok cool lol , hope thats something laters

[spare breach]

i see it only works when i fill the container via sinks or water collectors (and then cooking the water to purify it)

[ornate laurel]

closest issue might be having too much snow instead of rain

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-nap-equestrian-sleepy-all-tucked-in-gif-5750623

[ornate laurel]

which could lead to the outdoors troughs running out of water

[spare breach]

ok eggs are officially pissing me off

[ornate laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDykAy6MEW0

[spare breach]

EVEN MORE CHICKS KEEP HATCHING IN THE FRIDGE. ANd theyre taking up all the free encumbrance, so now i have to make use of the eggs and/or kill all the chicks that hatch

[ornate laurel]

are the eggs themselves cooked?

[spare breach]

no but its so silly they hatch in a fridge

this is their fate now

[mossy tangle]

There actually seems to be more things than batteries just running out. I had a sack of gravel that I’ve never touched ever become empty out of nowhere

[ornate laurel]

my advice is to stick the remaining eggs into the oven

[ornate laurel]

yup same here for 2 different buckets of clay cement over 2 characters

[mossy tangle]

Hopefully this is a hot fix when they get back from much deserved rest haha

[ornate laurel]

(this doesn't revert them to empty buckets, but making them also made an empty bucet via mitosis so i don't mind overmuch)

[vague trench]

look it says boobies

[opaque schooner]

CHICK HEAD???

[ornate laurel]

TIS devs keeping an eye on this discord and the forums over christmas break

[slim merlin]

Damn y’all weren’t kidding about guns being less prevalent than ammo. I’ve raided a military surplus store and a gun range and the only gun I found was a sawed of shotgun on a survivor zombie

And a .38 revolver

[spare breach]

I mean id definitely appreciate if they had at least one person eyeing the channels every now and then

just to take notes

[vague trench]

i been finding them on survivior zombers more than anywhere else and theyre pretty easy to find ANYtiem i see the little shit i will yank my car over and kill them lol

[spare breach]

not good practice as you will ruin your car fast thanks to that

i run over 2-3 zombies and my hood and window are already fucked

[slim merlin]

I just want a hunting rifle so I can shoot deer 😭

Hunting with a pistol is hard as shit

[vague trench]

forgot where i found one of those lol

i believe i left it on a table rofl

[slim merlin]

I have managed to kill one single deer while hunting with a pistol tho

[vague trench]

i think it was near binkys farm near muldrag

[rich cove]

car hunting>

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

[vague trench]

thats a huge piece of burnt

[meager geyser]

Well done

[spare breach]

I swear im gonna cheat and give myself a few extra kilos of weight cuz this is dumb. No matter how much i eat, i lose weight

i already got the underweight trait so thats great

[ornate laurel]

I recommend going to -debug and giving yourself nutritionist. And/or installing a Status Bar mod thst shows your current calorie count in real time

Both can help you with calorie intake

Hunger Bar =/= Calories

[spare breach]

yeah its frustrating that i dont really know how much calories im eating

i'll give myself the nutritionist trait

[vague trench]

yah im at home right now stuffing myself to see if ill gain weight just by sitting here

[slim merlin]

Gotta eat and not run around. Running around burns calories

Also I need tips on where to find genny mags in B42. The power just went out and all my eggs are gonna spoil

[spare breach]

but i WANT to progress with my save :C
i tried sitting around not doing anything while stuffing myself and NOTHING

[spare breach]

found none of them, they seem pretty rare i suppose

i just farmed xp for electrical skill lvl 3 by dismantling half of my town's electronics

[slim merlin]

I suppose I could venture back into Ekron and start dismantling. But I’m very close to population peak day so it’ll definitely be pretty dangerous

[real fox]

cook eggs, or they have a chance of becoming fertalized

[spare breach]

o weird lol

[vague trench]

lol wth i want chickens

none of my eggs are hactching lol

[real fox]

how do you get whool from sheep?

[jade haven]

Neat detail in Brandenburg.

There's a place in the trailer park (located on the east side of town just on the other side of the tracks) where it looks like someone converted their trailer into a restaurant and/or bar, with outdoor seating, an elevated outdoor eating platform and even an open mic!

Honestly, it's kinda cute.

[cunning turtle]

Just eat a lot of butter, peanut butter, rice, pasta and you'll increase your weight, at least that's why I did in b41 if I wanted to increase my weight

[spare breach]

well im very limited on all that

[vague trench]

i have electric shear but i think any shear for them works and i just right clicked on my sheep , if it has enough wool it will give you an option to shear

[real fox]

where would you think i could find a shear at?

[vague trench]

if you come across any sheep farms i wuold check there or if you are in echo drive to irvington and check the farming store down there

[cunning turtle]

That's why then, loot malls

[spare breach]

you do realise malls have finite loot

my only renewable source is foraging and fishing

aka mostly mushrooms, berries and fish meat, as well as herbs

[hollow sonnet]

That’s where you’ll get your calories late game is fish

Maintaining weight aint hard 😭

[cunning turtle]

You're cooked then

[cunning turtle]

Exactly lmao

[hollow sonnet]

Just eat eat eat to gain or don’t eat till you’re in the 2nd stage of hunger to lose weight is what I do

[vague trench]

i cant wait until we get to dry meat n stuff

gimme dried meats!! ill take that over cooking anyday lol

[hollow sonnet]

Hell yea

I’m already enjoying harvested meat from animals and cooking it

[cunning turtle]

Do you know if in b42 the loot doesn't respawn anymore throwing everything out of the container

[hasty dagger]

This has always been a customizable option. you can load the preset and check its setting.

[cunning turtle]

I know but maybe @spare breach thinks that there are infinite loot, he has to check it

[spare breach]

no, by default it doesnt regenerate
and i do not want it to. It is highly unrealistic and breaks immersion

[spare breach]

i see i see, didnt know thats a thing

[spare breach]

overall drying stuff is something i am excited about because we need more ways to preserve food for longevity

we can already pickle some vegetables but its not enough. we should be able to pickle more things, plus dry herbs, meat etc

[hasty dagger]

Its really only a setting to use in multiplayer

[vague trench]

yar! i dont really like cooking cause im rather impatient and like to run off and do things and i have a tendency to burn shit lol

[hearty pond]

shouldnt be too hard to mod in, currently everythings a timed action, it technically was planned (if i remember it correctly) that certain action actually take time and not just a progressbar

[cunning turtle]

Yeah but my first serious run single player in b41 I saw that the loot started to respawn and I was like what lol

[real fox]

bne gloves

[cunning turtle]

That's nice, looks like they improved tailoring also

[neat saffron]

Glad to see another recipe that doesn't need an arbitrary book

[ornate laurel]

How do you see that? Debug or high animal handling?

[real fox]

im at 1 animal handling rn

[ornate laurel]

[vague trench]

boner gloves

[pallid hinge]

[cunning turtle]

Do you think can we reach 100% of protection now?

[vague trench]

What for our groin? Lol

[pallid hinge]

I was going to say yes, all but the groin 🤣

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[vague trench]

I found a crotch cup lol

[frozen wyvern]

Wait actually

[vague trench]

The sports stores have great armor lol

[frozen wyvern]

Thats amazing

[vague trench]

Discomofrt city but CROTCH CUP , take that you lil groin biters

[frozen wyvern]

I mean really if you think about it getting bit while wearing anything is almost impossible irl by a human

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/maximus-stay-away-from-me-gif-13602084

[real fox]

@cunning turtle 3 months

[frozen wyvern]

Like take a random shirt and try to bite through it, yoyre not getting far

Which is what leads mw to believe the Knox infection gives you fangs

[real fox]

ive spent half a in game month just decorating and building

[pallid hinge]

🎉

[frozen wyvern]

I think i might do something similar, i enjoy PZ as a cozy game as well, which is funny

[cunning turtle]

Try to grind tailoring too, you'll remember me lmao

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[real fox]

im doing that rn it suckskkkss sadasdkljslkjadklasdaskl lmfao

[cunning turtle]

How are you doing that

[real fox]

looting dead zombies and patching shitty clothes i wont wear and repatching them

[cunning turtle]

Cool

[cunning turtle]

Yeah but at the end it worth it fr

[real fox]

i wonder if i can make it to a year haha

thats my goal

[frozen wyvern]

The more i think about it the more i feel PZ might fare better with implementing an enturely new sort of XP and progression system

I feel the current one is pretty archaic and uninteractive

Usually im not one for skill trees in games, but i feel like it... might work better for Zomboid?

Because the LV1 to LV10 grind for any skill feels kinda arbitrary and hard to follow

[vague trench]

Yah outside of carpentry to 2 i never leveled up any skill cause it just disnt feel rewarding enough and rather boring

[languid dome]

hi fuck this game (love this game) fuck you

[cunning turtle]

What do you think is different now in b42 to reach the 100%

[cunning turtle]

I believe in you

[frozen wyvern]

I just feel that leveling up needs more player feedback

And also does every skill really need 10 levels? It just feels off

[cunning turtle]

Nimble at lvl 10 is op

Tailoring at 10 worth it

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah some skills have apparent progression, but most dont

I just feel for this crafting update to go well they really gotta nail how xp and leveling works

[vague trench]

i have seen neck guards , shins, forearms not sure about upper arms so it might be possible

[vague trench]

Yah, to be honest i havent messed with crafting much because its very wip and some of the ingredients n stuff is fussy so i might wait for hotfixes then dive into it

[frozen wyvern]

That might be for the best, i tried to start blacksmithing but bottleneck after bottleneck kept showing up

Like, i need a wooden bucket for a forge (cant use a normal one) but i cant make a wooden bucket becauze it needs iron rings but iron rings are only found in rare looted houses

[vague trench]

Yah that was the first prifession i tried and i got flustered i coukdnt find something and so i tried pottery couldnt find clay lol

See i found a wood bucket earlier whne i picked it up it turned into a regular wood bucket lol

[frozen wyvern]

Ah yeah

The buuld rn is more for the explorer and farmer playstyle which is cool

I DID just find a scrap metal sword stuck in a zombie tho which was awesome

[vague trench]

Yah which is cool, to see hwo loot distro works n stuff, where animals spawn , etc

[frozen wyvern]

So blacksmithing WILL be dope as hell but atm its essentially innacessable

[cunning turtle]

That's nice, when I have time I'll see if it's possible

[vague trench]

Oo i found one of those lmao a scrap metal its fricking sick

[visual trail]

So you need butchery 7 or more to get your first prime cut and even at that lvl the first are always poor cuts and the chance to get a prime cut is still low....

[vague trench]

Whats the difference between poor and prime? Hunger anoubt or sonething?

[visual trail]

hunger yes

poor is like -7 and prime is -33

[vague trench]

Oh crickets lol thats nice

[visual trail]

it's a huge difference between them which is nice but you need to grind that butchery lvl

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/salt-bae-chef-meat-butcher-gif-13710528

[vague trench]

Lmao

[cunning turtle]

Lmao x2

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-salt-bae-gif-7529894

[woven beacon]

Yeah its fucked atm lol

[slim merlin]

I found a hunting rifle in a house down the road from my base that I hadn’t checked

[woven beacon]

Haven't found an m14 and I went in debug and checked most of the gun stores while I was invisible

[slim merlin]

Gonna be huntmaxxing once I find a generator magazine so my eggs don’t spoil

[cunning turtle]

That's weird

[slim merlin]

Alternatively I’ll be disassembling every bit of electronics in Echo Creek

[woven beacon]

Imo this should be gun progression.

Bolt actions and revolvers more likely to spawn in houses/farms.

Semi automatics in gun stores/military barracks with a chance of fully automatic.

Fully automatics at military barracks

With the idea being you use each gun to progress to harder to clear areas

[real fox]

MY HOUSE FUCKING BURNT DOWN

THE GENERATOR BLUE UP LMFAO I DIDNT KNOW THAT WAS A THING

[woven beacon]

Yeah the game doesn't do a good job of telling u that

[real fox]

time to ddrink my problems aaway lmfaoo

[pallid hinge]

in B41 if a generator is lower than 50% condition it has a chance to blow up, lower the condition, higher the chance - so I imagine it is the same in B42

hopefully your character is doing ok!

[real fox]

OH MY GOD YOU SHOULD HAVE SENEN THE BIG BRAIN MOVE I JUST DID TO SAVE MY CHARACTER THIS WAS THE BEST MOMENT EVER LMFAO I

[pallid hinge]

hahaha

[real fox]

LIKE DONT GET ME WRONG IM MAD AS FUCK BUT HOLY SHIT THAT WAS SO IMMERSIVE LMFAO

[pallid hinge]

Shadowplay/steam record it!

[real fox]

WAITTTTTT

[pallid hinge]

I want to seeeee hahaha

[real fox]

I DO HAVE IT RECORDEDD!!!!! ONE SEC

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[real fox]

im going to share a link here one sec its a long clip haha

i just rewatched this lmfao its so hilarious

im thankful most of my guns are weapons are fine, alot of books gone tho

and i lost alot of my silly outfits haha

[slim merlin]

Time to set up shop in the little white shed to your east 😂

One of my playthroughs I lived in the little maintenance shed next to the farm north of Muldraugh because it was burned down and I wanted to take care of the sheep and chickens that were already there

[real fox]

i might actualy have to upload this somewhere this file size is way to big lmfao give me a sec

i hate that discord cock blocks file limits

[pallid hinge]

🤣 no rush - youtube is probably your best bet

yea file sizes being so small on here is pretty sad

[slim merlin]

Make it unlisted and post the link so anyone who has the link can watch it I’m pretty sure

[hearty pond]

I'd say it needs different balances for different purposes, MP could keep the current xp gain, but SP requires you to be more of a jack of all trades, so you'd need a increased gain

and because people love more skills maybe a "generalists" melee combat skill that helps with all melee weapons, while the weapon skills itself only give minor benefits (like less durability loss whole fighting, maybe slightly increased chance of critical hits, the likes) while the generalists skill gives benefits across the board (lower stamina consumption, higher attack rate, stuff like that), kinda like a "aiming skill" for melee

as a way to not be as punishing if you want to switch around with different weapons

[cunning turtle]

No video = cap

[real fox]

give me a few min :3

[cunning turtle]

Luna the youtuber

[real fox]

https://youtu.be/1Z-qvp6oKyA

[real fox]

I UPLOADED IT

[sturdy wren]

is it me or are zombies really relentless now

they hear you once from 2 kilometers away and they dont stop until they get to the pinpoint location where they heard you

[velvet egret]

yeah, zeds def seem more relentless than before. Probably a part of the randomness in sight, hearing, etc..

[real fox]

chat i think ima make it

wound is healing, stitched up, most of ammo made it , i didnt loose too much

[velvet egret]

one tile made all the difference

[real fox]

i literally was SCREACHING

bro i was terrfieid you can see my fear lmfao

[pallid hinge]

OH Let me take a look!

[real fox]

OH MY GOD HAHAHA

[sturdy wren]

every single day i thank John "Zomme" Boid for inventing fences

[pallid hinge]

HOLY SHIT one tile over and you would have be dead (or close to it)!

that is wild lol!

[cunning turtle]

That was epic, it never happened me before

[real fox]

i sware to god i was terrfied lmfao

i thought about going through the fire but i was like nah ima die so i struggled to get out the window

shit was crazy

[pallid hinge]

The window was such a good call

[sturdy wren]

i had to replace my favourite green hawaii shirt with a black hawaii shirt :(

[real fox]

the aftermath lol, im debating on living here still or going to the estates and MAYBE repairing this place idk

[sturdy wren]

??????? going into a home with all broken windows all doors broke down still activates the alarm????

[real fox]

MY HAT SURVIVED

[pallid hinge]

yarr

[sturdy wren]

losing your hat is an unforgivable sin, John "Zomme" Boid blessed you this time

[pallid hinge]

default apoc settings zombies cannot activate house alarms (which I think is dumb)

[sturdy wren]

i dont like default apoc settings

why did i even go apoc?????

[severe egret]

If they didnt track your position magically after losing LoS they wouldnt get snagged thumping doors and windows so often, and this wouldn't happen

[pallid hinge]

cause it is baseline, so you can give feedback for the devs!

[pallid hinge]

in my normal playthroughs I turn on enviro damage, and enable zombie house alarms - but I am doing apoc currently

[sturdy wren]

I think after hearing a noise zombies should head toward that general direction not become a homing missile

[severe egret]

Its rng with modifiers for distance and based on hearing setting

[sturdy wren]

had me at beer and burgers

[pallid hinge]

"and freedom" lol

[severe egret]

They wont always pinpoint the sound if it's far away

[pallid hinge]

[sturdy wren]

the zombie knows where it is because the zombie knows where it isnt

and i think sleepiness should be turned down

oop there goes the water

oop there goes the power

i think this might be over

i'm separated from my car and havent found a generator manual, have no idea where to get water or food

[humble sail]

If i try and kill a cow by pressing the 'kill animal' option will it try to kill it with my crowbar? because i think it might kill be before i can kill it with a crowbar...

[pallid hinge]

have you found the electrical 1+2 books? just get to electical 3 and you have the ability to hook up gennys now

[cunning turtle]

Try it and let us know

[pallid hinge]

For science

[sturdy wren]

i have electrical 1 and 2 books in my car but i am completely out of nutrition

[pallid hinge]

[sturdy wren]

i've read electrical 1 and i'm only halfway to getting electrical skill 1

[humble sail]

[pallid hinge]

backup your save and try!

[humble sail]

[cunning turtle]

[sturdy wren]

you know what the say, better dead than ze

[humble sail]

okayyy

[cunning turtle]

Try it in debug mode better lol

[sturdy wren]

nevermind

[cunning turtle]

Good decision

[sturdy wren]

i was swiped by a zombie while fencing and pushed into a zombie that sneaked up from behind that just immediately bit my neck and my character imploded immediately for some reason

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-the-boss-metal-gear-solid3-snake-eater-snake-gif-19627120

[sturdy wren]

was a good run

[pallid hinge]

😢

behind attacks on the neck are insta-kill

[cunning turtle]

If they hit you on the neck you're cooked if you don't act faster

[sturdy wren]

well i was stunlocked because of the swipe

[sturdy wren]

is that new?

i remember being bitten from behind on the neck and having time to bleed out

[pallid hinge]

nah, it was added in IBWUMS(unstable) B41

[humble sail]

IT WORKED, THE COW DIED IMMEDIATELY

[sturdy wren]

isnt it iwbums?

for "It will break ur motherfucking savefile" or something

[cunning turtle]

I remember being bitten from behind on the neck in B41 and I almost die immediately

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[pallid hinge]

🎉

[sturdy wren]

dragdowns are more satisfying than being bitten on the neck and imploding

[humble sail]

Note: do not hit big animal to kill, click option to kill

[cunning turtle]

What about if you do that to a bull btw

[pallid hinge]

IWillBackUpMySave

it's what unstable used to be called

[humble sail]

I did, it died

[sturdy wren]

i like my version better i'm sorry

[pallid hinge]

🙂 fair

[cunning turtle]

Sacrificing for the science, claps

[humble sail]

Time to reload to get my cows back

[sturdy wren]

even if i would be able to get away after being bitten i think going on my own terms after suffering the end of life crisis would be nicer

[humble sail]

Do different breeds have different values like in irl? like angus is better for meat and holstein is better for dairy

[real fox]

has anyone else notice the change to welll water being tainted?

[sturdy wren]

reading through my book collection i stocked up in my car if i'm able to get to it

and then chugging bleach in the house i marked for having bleach for some reason

i think more houses should have bleach i dont think a lot of survivors would be hauling it to the forest in the early apocalypse

[real fox]

lmfao

[sturdy wren]

why are there 2 ?

[pallid hinge]

you have debug on?

[sturdy wren]

nope

[pallid hinge]

weird, I don't think those two are supposed to show up (also shows for me, non-debug)

[sturdy wren]

the water and electricity shut off for me at around day 13

hemophobia is absolutely horrible

[pallid hinge]

just gotta wash the blood off!

[real fox]

most ugly entrance ever but itll do for now

[real fox]

lmfao

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[severe prawn]

Naaaahh. I got water off on the first day with hemophobia and im ok

[tender cave]

hemophobia would be less of a pain if rain could wash ur character and clothes

[pallid hinge]

at least in B41 the stress from it eventually goes away

[severe prawn]

mods exist i suppose

[tender cave]

rain wash didnt update

[severe prawn]

ohh shi

[pallid hinge]

it did https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2956146279&searchtext=rain

[severe prawn]

yaaay

[tender cave]

this mod has different functionality

[pallid hinge]

yea

[tender cave]

it doesnt clean blood from character but from map

[sturdy wren]

they should make hemophobia get called germophobia

[pallid hinge]

Rain Wash hasn't been updated since 2021

[tender cave]

cuz its dev just disappeared

in february 2022

[sturdy wren]

hemophobia would be less of a pain if i were good at the game and i didnt kill a zombie every minute

is 294 zombies by day 14 average

[pallid hinge]

dev's discord is still around

[sturdy wren]

im curious

[severe prawn]

is there any diference beetwen new generators?

[tender cave]

but hes not active at all

[remote bear]

Prolly not

[pallid hinge]

what also started in feb 2022

[neat saffron]

Sooo
Archery when

[pallid hinge]

minus the smile part 😦

[tender cave]

might be tho

[pallid hinge]

😢

[sturdy wren]

i think trees should be at least partially see through

[sturdy wren]

holy fucking shit

[pallid hinge]

someone is about to become a lake survivor 🙂

[sturdy wren]

i always was always will be

where else do you get water?????

[neat saffron]

for all the flyers we have in game im surprised there are none that just give us straightup game relevant information

[real fox]

fire spread so far!

i got lucky it didnt burn down the garage

[neat saffron]

imagine flyers that tell you "How does the KNOX infection work" or "What to do if you get bit" to bleaken the tone a little, Evacuation orders and such all the way to a simple "On the Fly Fishing Guide, What bait for what fish"

[real fox]

im moving :) not far tho, next door basically lmfao

[pallid hinge]

Every single sink/tub/toilet has water in it, until you empty them

[neat saffron]

bathtubs always have 100 liters in reserve

[pallid hinge]

so where ever you want, but fish is good

[lament crow]

Wheres the most likely spot one would find a needle?

[neat saffron]

An Animal Trough is really just a cheaper rain collector

[sturdy wren]

who the fuck keeps 24 plastic bags in their trunk

[neat saffron]

most people, genius

[pallid hinge]

it was the 90s everyone had a bag filled with bags

[neat saffron]

ITS A PLASTIC BAG ROLL THEY'RE VERY CHEAP

yall be straightup cray cray

[sturdy wren]

well not in my trunk!!!

[real fox]

i have a cabinet at home specifically for groccery bags and other shit to re use

trash bins, carrying something, ect

[remote bear]

I have grocery bags in my closet

[tawny orbit]

lets goo b42 reached 1k mod..

[sturdy wren]

what?

a bucket of paint in the middle of the fucking forest?

[humble sail]

Do different breeds of cows have different values like in irl? like angus is better for meat and holstein is better for dairy

[pallid hinge]

yea they have a whole genetic system going on 🙂

[humble sail]

Dang

Is there an article or something i can look up for info on that

[pallid hinge]

they talked about it somewhere, let me see if I can find it

[humble sail]

Because my current base location has a lot of different cows but only 1 livestock zone with an actual barn with feeding troughs

Mostly holstein and angus

[pallid hinge]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/03/milky-milky/ - though I swear they have talked about it elsewhere and actually shown off the genetics ui but I can't seem to find it atm

[sturdy wren]

Milky Milky

[humble sail]

nws 🙂

Once i get higher carpentry ill build troughs and a diy lil cabin for the angus cows

[sturdy wren]

i have decided to abandon civilization on day 1 of my survival

[humble sail]

Itll be more like a roof and 4 supports

[sturdy wren]

i'm at a lake close to muldraugh

[humble sail]

oooh

[sturdy wren]

i have a fishing rod and a whole bunch of flint nodules but cant find a flint flake for an axe

[cunning turtle]

Dayumm

[sturdy wren]

what ?

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-dog-gif-15735278909360391194

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-project-animan-studios-animan-gif-27677994

[sturdy wren]

people who take armour over drip are objectively wrong i think

[pallid hinge]

Sometimes armour is the drip 😉

[signal nymph]

does anyone know when the map tools will be updated , so there will be nwe map mods again?

[pallid hinge]

We don't, hopefully soon - I feel they might be holding off till some of the surprises of B42 are released

[neat saffron]

disagree

[cunning turtle]

This, I always choose the drip if I can

[cunning turtle]

Next year

[neat saffron]

i have yet to see a single time where armor doesnt look either just okay or- as is usually the case, super edgy in the worst ways possible

[signal nymph]

i hope so i want some of the modded bunkers back and shelters
and most of all rv interior

[cunning turtle]

I feel you

[pallid hinge]

I like the black leather jackets, they are drippy but also technically armor

There is some pretty neat modded stuff out there too

But it is a sandbox, do what you want 👍

[cunning turtle]

Dislike

[neat saffron]

I want everyone to be normal people in an apocalypse

[pallid hinge]

mad maxes all the things

[neat saffron]

my fashion method is very simple:

Would i comfortably like to wear this IRL

[pallid hinge]

I wear a leather jacket irl 😜

[neat saffron]

those are fine i also have one im more talking about stuff like, idk, running around with a gasmask and bulletproof gear the entire day long or glueing a backpack onto me or god forbid stupid stuff like running around in a bunnysuit in the apocalypse

I always think back to the one scene in 28 days later where the dad gets infected from a random drop of zombie blood falling into his eye

so i dress for that ig

and when its back at base, i take it all off, because i couldnt stand to wear all that stuff for too long irl

[pallid hinge]

My bunny suit is under the leather jacket /s

[cunning turtle]

Can relate with frutata, this was in B41 mp

[real fox]

[neat saffron]

also- completely unrelated- but

During the "Ai art" fiasco on day 1 of B42 launch, the game had a very cool function removed in the process:

The main menu was a videofile. You could change the main menu and loading screen files to whatever video and image files you wanted instead.

This function got removed alongside the artwork. I want it back.

[cunning turtle]

Same

[pallid hinge]

That would be neat to reimplement for modders if nothing else

[neat saffron]

very

you could change the main menu to play whatever quasi-gif youd like to on loop

and werent limited to playing only static difficult to make image files with a hardcoded lightning effect

Huge on moddability

[real fox]

new crib

[keen gorge]

The first crossbow mod for B42 took longer than expected to release

[real fox]

i had to repair all the bottom floor doors and foritfy the gate

[tulip cedar]

i want mp

[real fox]

and move all the animals, now i gotta move all my shieet

[neat saffron]

im just a girl (the frutata in my bio is a Xavier Renegade Angel reference)

[pallid hinge]

Yea moving bases is such a hassle

[neat saffron]

have you ever moved bases in CDDA

true unparalleled agony.

[pallid hinge]

[tulip cedar]

[cunning turtle]

Idk about that, I just like the frutata name

[real fox]

i always laugh when eating chicken

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[tulip cedar]

phahahahah

[cunning turtle]

Looks better than the last one

[real fox]

lets hope i dont burn down this place

[cunning turtle]

Is it that near to ekram

[opaque cradle]

did anyone found wood bucket from what kind of buildings?

[real fox]

i literaly was like nothing can happen, i never leave the oven on, fucking generator explodes haha

[cunning turtle]

Just always fix your generator

[neat saffron]

the ravenous beast consumes

[cunning turtle]

You need more drip

[tulip cedar]

ayoo

[cunning turtle]

Wth

[tulip cedar]

tf is that

[real fox]

kirby

[neat saffron]

Kirby

[real fox]

on steriods lmfao

[tulip cedar]

[neat saffron]

In the style of "Venus devouring his Son"

[cunning turtle]

[tulip cedar]

@neat saffron why you got such pictures

[neat saffron]

i just looked it up on google

[cunning turtle]

Blud is hardcore

[tulip cedar]

Why though😭

[neat saffron]

Venus devouring his Son is a staple of renaissance art

and very applicable to our characters scarfing down entire chickens

[tulip cedar]

Edgelord fr

[neat saffron]

im shocked you dont know about it

i thought thats part of common education around most of the world

[tulip cedar]

i mean

not in Germany ig

[cunning turtle]

I mean

[neat saffron]

ICH KOMM AUS DEUTSCHLAND WAS REDEST DU DA

[tulip cedar]

ohaaa

[real fox]

i should hang out in vc sometime

[cunning turtle]

Omg

[neat saffron]

DAS IST 7TE KLASSE MATERIAL DU DÖDEL

[tulip cedar]

WAS GEHT HAHAHA

[cunning turtle]

What blud is sayin

[real fox]

i have meme

[tulip cedar]

EYYYY FREUNDLICH BLEIBEN YA

[neat saffron]

that its 7th grade material

[neat saffron]

WENN DU'S VERDIENT HAST

[cunning turtle]

Flexin languages then

[tulip cedar]

ye man

[real fox]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3hx9d45i1Gs?si=sQpm_Dp9cyzsqABt

[tulip cedar]

Вы понимаете по-русски?

[neat saffron]

silly zombies triggered the car alarm

[cunning turtle]

Cuántos idiomas sabes?

[real fox]

mfw im mexican but i dont even speak spanish 💀

[tulip cedar]

ok fair point

[neat saffron]

donde esta la bibliotheka?

[tulip cedar]

haahhaahah

[cunning turtle]

Fake ahh mexican

[neat saffron]

butchered that to death, no doubt

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[tulip cedar]

Salve

Bandoleropassion Servus est

[cunning turtle]

Flas anglisht dhe spanjisht shum mir, por flas pak shqip

[tulip cedar]

DEUS VULT

[tulip cedar]

Albania yay

[cunning turtle]

Yeah

I'm learning it by myself, it's hard

[tulip cedar]

Salut, je m'appelle Maudinio et je connais très peu le français

[tulip cedar]

Im learning Russian its pretty hard too

[cunning turtle]

I'll learn french in the future too

[tulip cedar]

nice man

Distusting language though

[cunning turtle]

Keep it up, I won't give up till I learn the languages I want to learn lol

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[sturdy wren]

i found a choker once

and cant find one ever again

[tulip cedar]

After Russian ill finish with Ukrainian

[keen gorge]

French is not a real language

[tulip cedar]

hahhahahah

[keen gorge]

You're gonna have to do a lot more convincing to tell me French is real

[tulip cedar]

Hoodini where you come from?

[real fox]

istg i regret choosing disorganized sooooooo much

[tulip cedar]

Nahh never pick disorganized

[cunning turtle]

How many languages do you speak

[tulip cedar]

3

[keen gorge]

I'm in Japan right now for work

[cunning turtle]

F

[cunning turtle]

That's nice

[tulip cedar]

nice! i wanna visit Japan soon

[cunning turtle]

I'll visit Japan someday

[tulip cedar]

thanks, you?

[cunning turtle]

2 now, I'm learning Albanian, after Albanian I'll learn Japanese and french and I'll go crazy lmao

[tulip cedar]

you can talk to the whole world then lmao

learn German!

pretty lovely language once you understand it

[cunning turtle]

Idk if my mind will be able to handle six languages at the same time lmao

[keen gorge]

Japanese is hella difficult to learn

[tulip cedar]

yea true haha

[tulip cedar]

also true

[real fox]

i think my chickens are duplicating or growing up way to fast

[cunning turtle]

More hard better for me

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-15719325597742543552

[tulip cedar]

give your char some sleep god dayum

[keen gorge]

I've been here 2 years and I'm probably only 5th grade level in fluency

[real fox]

im moving rn

[cunning turtle]

They're planning a invasion to you

[keen gorge]

I mean, as long as I can talk to people fine that works for me

[cunning turtle]

I think with English is enough

[tulip cedar]

ye i love the Japanese language. I wish I could understand it... Anime watching would be so chill haha

[real fox]

i want to learn german and russian

but not sure on what dialact cause ukranian is really hard lmfao

[cunning turtle]

What about learn spanish...

[real fox]

im already no sabo 😭

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[sturdy wren]

why did i wake up from sleep tired panicked and stressed?

[cunning turtle]

A nightmare

[vapid trail]

check those pants

[cunning turtle]

[sturdy wren]

i literally disabled sleep events

[cunning turtle]

A nightmare is not a event

[sturdy wren]

what the fuck why did i get 90 foraging xp from picking up a broken stick

[vapid trail]

did you tune any xp modifier settings

[sturdy wren]

no, default

no wait that was a leak

[vapid trail]

i guess it scales with the object overall weight and volume, also its zone its found in

[past spear]

oh hey zomboid is in the bronze category in the best of steam top sellers

between bodycam and civ 6

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[sturdy wren]

how do i sterilize water without a pot?

how to farm maintenance?

[vapid trail]

shove a garage door with something like a metal pipe or a branch
and for sterilizing i think you need to put any water container with water inside an oven, might be wrong

[sturdy wren]

on a campfire

[vapid trail]

just put it inside the container

[sturdy wren]

are there any craftable water containers out of wood?

[vapid trail]

a wooden bucket

[fluid panther]

Is there any way to fit a sheep into a car?

[tawny orbit]

sadly its not safe anymore because there lot zombie and attacking animal

[cunning turtle]

F

[tawny orbit]

for CDDA

[thick laurel]

Can we make fireworks in B42

[cunning turtle]

Good question

[sturdy wren]

why on earth do you need maintenance 1 to craft a wooden axe

i'm literally dying of thirst

[tawny orbit]

you need fight zombie or cut tree so u can get gain mainternance

[sturdy wren]

can i just shove trees?

[blazing coral]

they reworked how you gain maintenance in b42. apparently shoving doesn't give exp anymore

[cunning turtle]

Edith is cooked

[real fox]

are you able to destroy hutches once created

i cant seem to be able too

also i think im going to start a new character, im not happy with this build lmfao and i kinda want to change sandbox settings for crop growth

[cunning turtle]

F

[frozen wyvern]

You can change sandbox settings midgame with a mod if you want

[real fox]

yeeee but i think ima have big balls and play on very high pop on peak day

[cunning turtle]

Oh

[frozen wyvern]

Best of luck

[real fox]

i already deleted 😭 lolll

[frozen wyvern]

Also that generator scenario you had was so stressful lol

[flat phoenix]

You can but it has a chance of corrupting your world if you mess with too much ive heard.

[frozen wyvern]

Ah probably

[cunning turtle]

Let's see if u really will have big balls

[real fox]

[cunning turtle]

I did that in B41 and worked fine

[winged coral]

why does my well say its unsafe to drink?

[cunning turtle]

F

[flat phoenix]

Thats b41, for b42 its an unstable beta. Best not risking your save messing with sandbox mid save

[cunning turtle]

Makes sense

[frozen wyvern]

I mean thats self explanatory right?

Gotta sterilize it

[flat phoenix]

Yeah dont drink from the wells

[winged coral]

no its not

[frozen wyvern]

I dont reccomend just drinking out of open water reserves irl

[flat phoenix]

Could be a zombie in that well...

[winged coral]

alright so wells are basically the same as a river

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah every well has its own zombie messing things up

[winged coral]

thats a shity change

[frozen wyvern]

It makes sense to me

[flat phoenix]

I wouldnt drink out of a well irl 🤣 god knows whats in them

[frozen wyvern]

No more free infinite water

[flat phoenix]

it makes sense to have to sterilise it

[winged coral]

wells have been used by humans for a millennia

not all wells are great quality but come on

[cunning turtle]

F

[flat phoenix]

You should drink out of a crusty, dusty, musty well and see how it goes.

[frozen wyvern]

Need i remind you of disease rates in agrarian society before modern medicine

[real fox]

from my understanding by default you cant gain xp from disembling shit anymore for carpentry, but can toggle this in sandbox, how would i go about setting an appropiate value for this as it was for build 41?

[frozen wyvern]

From 0 to 1 id guess?

[winged coral]

still shitty change

[flat phoenix]

Im so glad we dont get xp via dismantling anymore. Great for servers

[frozen wyvern]

Man the devs can just change one little thing thats been in the game for ages and people would still get mad

[cunning turtle]

Mostly of the server I played the rule were don't dismantle stuff

[flat phoenix]

People just stuck in b41 and dont wanna change 🤭

[flat phoenix]

I used a mod that prevented them from doing it altogether

[frozen wyvern]

Its wild how much people wanted an update but get mad when said update changes things...like it said it would

[flat phoenix]

FR

[real fox]

for more of a challange thoughts on this?

[cunning turtle]

With muscle strain for example

[real fox]

idk if ill get bad fps

[flat phoenix]

Start in muldraugh, that'll be fun

[cunning turtle]

If you want to die, active sprinters, but with only 100 hours of game I don't recommend you active random sprinters

[frozen wyvern]

In all honesty i dont think muscle strain is a super fun mechanic

It kinda overlaps with general exhaustion to me

[flat phoenix]

Just needs a sandbox for your preference, I like it personally

[frozen wyvern]

Yup thats whats great about the game

[real fox]

thoughts on farming rn? take a shit ton of time to grow id like to maybe cut it down a bit, but im unsure what number value to put it at, currently its at 1.0

[remote bear]

Try putting it down a bit?

Maybe like Stardew Valley it.

[real fox]

wouldnt a lower value make it take longer?

[remote bear]

Then again... I wouldn't know how long crops grow in that game either.

[real fox]

ranges from 1.0 to 100.0

[remote bear]

What does the Tooltip say?

[remote bear]

We just gotta figure out what default 1 means lol

And how long it does take for crops to grow.

I heard it was around 180 days in game?

[real fox]

for some yeah

some take 40-60 days, some take 180

[elder flax]

Oh god, seeing this at midnight almost made me lose my shit

He's back

[remote bear]

Unless these are outdated values...

[remote bear]

Maybe we can look into the in game files.

[flat phoenix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hkizjs/so_i_made_a_farming_spreadsheet/?rdt=36510

[remote bear]

Thank you.

[flat phoenix]

Someone did a farming spreadsheet aparently

[remote bear]

Jesus

240??? That is busted.

[real fox]

yeeeeee

[remote bear]

Are these affected in anyway by how well watered these are?

[real fox]

im not entirely sure, neither about fertalizer/compost either affecting it

[remote bear]

Are these values in hours?

[flat phoenix]

I would think maybe in game hours?

[remote bear]

Fertilizer removes hours.

[real fox]

yikes

[remote bear]

Jesus I'm reading those are days.

[flat phoenix]

It could be days but you can set your in game days shorter

[remote bear]

1.0 is perhaps multiplier for one hour?

One in game hour.

I mean if 1hr in game is 1 day.

maths.... maths...

[heady field]

gg thanks for sharing this

[remote bear]

How do we think maybe 15 days in game would be realistic enough?

I'm mathing this up or atleast trying

[real fox]

im not sure, im fine with crop growth being 30-60 days but anything more is crazy xD

im even find tabaco being like 80 days lmfao given time speed taken into affect

[remote bear]

Cause 60 days to 240 days in game is apparently 2.5-10 real days of game time

Lol...

[flat phoenix]

I guess it depends on your playstyle and loot settings

SP I dont use loot respawn

[remote bear]

Halve the multiplier between 2.0 to 4.0

Or actually go inbetween 3.5 maybe.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[remote bear]

How do I see my rank again

[elder flax]

Jokes on him, its so bugged i got double leather from butchering him twice

[remote bear]

A farming mod wouldn't be bad...

[cunning turtle]

...

[cunning turtle]

That's cool

[sturdy wren]

can i just find logs in the forest?

while foraging? and is there some cheap handmade water container to boil water in?

or am i supposed to perish of thirst without civilization

[fluid panther]

where to find a trailer for animals?

[elder flax]

Yep, you should be able to forage for them in forrests

uhm not sure, i know you can craft wooden buckets, but its not easy for a low tech playtrough

For now lemongras and tainted water is prob ur best option

[elder flax]

Near and around farms, on streests, etc
there's also one in echo creek near the concert, spawns almost always.

[sturdy wren]

does tainted water just straight up kill you?

i'm near a lake, will i not just die if i drink it?

[elder flax]

you'll get a little sick for as far as i know, you won't die

[frozen wyvern]

It also depends on if you have prone to illness i guess

Ill be honest ive never drank tainted water in game in my entire 400 hours, getting normal water is too easy

[sturdy wren]

i DO have prone to illness

also can i make my own saw?

I have regular zombies coming in with occasional metal stuff

and there's actually a bar next by from which i brought like 15 bottles of alcohol so it's not entirely low tech anymore and i have water intake

[humble sail]

My dumbass somehow manages to crash twice,

still searching for a sewing needle and thread to stitch the deep wounds but otherwise im fine

And then i come across this whilst searching

7 odd zomboids in one house

[remote bear]

@real fox 2.5 would be balanced.

Formula is Days until Harvest divided by multiplier.

Days being 60-90-240.

2.5 multiplier = 24-36-96 days.
3.0 multiplier = 20-30-80
4.0 multiplier = 15-22-60

[neat saffron]

some mad b###ard is currently creating Zombie Dogs I bet.

Those are going to be, so bad.

[frozen wyvern]

I think thatll happen but i bet its gonna be a while before anyone adds their own entities in

[keen gorge]

As long as you don't put it in a container and drink it

But otherwise its safe to drink. Drink straight from the puddles, from the river, or from the rain collectors

[blazing coral]

I am legend moment

[elder flax]

btw zombie animals already exist in unstable, you can butcher animals on the hook, and leave their flesh, reload the game/leave the area, and come back, and voila, you might get a zombie animal, they act the same, just with no hide for example

[sturdy wren]

lake?

[keen gorge]

Drinking tainted water from a container like a bottle is the only time it kills you

Everything else is fair game

Weak stomach, prone to illness, etc has no effect to drinking tainted water

[fluid panther]

как разбить камень?

[real fox]

new flashlight?

[frozen wyvern]

It goes on the new webbing for hands free light

[cunning turtle]

Qué

[cunning turtle]

One year when

[cunning turtle]

Waiting for you

[real fox]

hot zomboids near you

[cunning turtle]

Don't try it

[cunning turtle]

no cap

[lament crow]

aint that modded

[fluid panther]

oh, my bad, how to break the rock?

[real fox]

nope its part of build 42

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Flashlight_-_Angle_Headed

[lament crow]

cool

[real fox]

LMAO @cunning turtle

[sturdy wren]

any idea on how to get sacks?

you need burlap and a needle

and you need a sack to make furnace and such

[cunning turtle]

W game lmaoo

[sturdy wren]

AND a bucket

a sack of sand and a bucket of walter

[real fox]

doing good for my first day

found police vest and hiking bag day one

[austere pewter]

No way a hiking bag on day 1??

[real fox]

LITERALLY SPAWNED NEAR A SURVIVOR CAR

[austere pewter]

It’s peak

Only time I’ve found a hiking bag was the rosewood fire station

[sturdy wren]

I think you're intended to get a needle from animal bones, but burlap and a fucking bucket?

[austere pewter]

They added like little lockers in the bedrooms and they have a lotta good stuff

You can find like sleeping bags and hunting stuff. And sometimes good backpacks

[cunning turtle]

No shotgun found = bad day

[sturdy wren]

how do you even get bones?

how do you even find animals????

[austere pewter]

Uh either go to a farm or find a crashed animal trailer

[vapid trail]

farms obviously and wildlife, bones are obviously from them too

how is that not anywhere more clearer damn,

[austere pewter]

That’s how I found my sheep. In a crashed trailer on the side of the road lol

[sturdy wren]

i mean when hunting

[vapid trail]

tracking skill

[sturdy wren]

i see trees shaking sometimes but you genuinely can't see through them

[cunning turtle]

[neat saffron]

were still missing recipes to turn bones into glue

glueeeee

[cunning turtle]

What frutata is into

[sturdy wren]

and being able to sleep on the floor without being ridiculously tired would be nice as well

[cunning turtle]

Why sleep on the floor if u can sleep in the car

[austere pewter]

I’m never gonna forget this clip lmao. THERES SO MANY IN THE JAMIETON SURPLUS STORE

[vapid trail]

yea no... thats just not really that good

[ornate laurel]

Good job getting out

[sturdy wren]

attempting low tech rn

[austere pewter]

I’m never going back to that place. 😭

[vapid trail]

high risk high reward, go stealthy

[cunning turtle]

So epic

[austere pewter]

You CANNOT go stealth I tried. They’re swarming every entrance

[sturdy wren]

how do i even level carpentry? i need a table to make an axe, and to make a table i need an axe/carpentry 1

[vapid trail]

just pick them out by small hordes

[austere pewter]

It’s JUST high risk low reward. Only thing I found was a sleeping bag and a clip on flashlight

[cunning turtle]

And lure em

[vapid trail]

should be relatively easy

[ornate laurel]

[austere pewter]

I’ve tried to lure them so many times and there’s just so many that it barely works

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24597347

[ornate laurel]

Real answer is probably go find a crate or table already in the world

[austere pewter]

Only good thing about that surplus store is that sometimes I’ll see a zomboid with an m16 outside of it. That’s really it

[ornate laurel]

And use them

[sturdy wren]

i hope they make low tech nicer

[austere pewter]

I always pick carpenter. Not just for the rain catchers but building really useful

And if I pick brawler and baseball player I’ll have 2 long blunt and a 100% xp bonus

[sturdy wren]

i also need maintenance 1 to make a primitive axe even if i do have a table

[austere pewter]

Oof maintenance 😭

Aren’t they adding maintenance books?

[sturdy wren]

WHAT

[vapid trail]

just honestly cheat your maintenance in
its really not that worth it grinding it, its still a reallly really wip and you should experience new things, not struggle with old mechanics

[blazing coral]

someone said you can use boulders as crafting surfaces on the wild. never tested it myself

[sturdy wren]

i think they reworked maintenance where you cant shove a tree infinitely for xp

[sturdy wren]

OH, i need to try that

[blazing coral]

you get maintenance from sharpening, repairing, and breaking your weapon in combat (crowbar is horrible for maintenance grind now)

[vapid trail]

and repairing is unlocked on 1st maintenance... its honestly better to go DIY occupation and start making weapons with it

[sturdy wren]

i guess the smithing gives you maintenance 1?

i suppose the grind rn is to repeatedly break spears

but yeah no i'm hopping into debug

[vapid trail]

or sharpen knifes

[blazing coral]

not with glue/duct tape. and you can also poorly sharpen with files instead of a whetstone

[vapid trail]

still, you are missing out epoxy and zipties repairs

[sturdy wren]

i think the only weapons you can get no tech are spears, stakes and sticks

[vapid trail]

those are REALLY common in garages/police station's desks

[vapid trail]

maybe some pairing and kitchen knifes in residential's kitchens, maybe some thrown away hunting knifes

[sturdy wren]

you could theoretically forage?

i did find a bucket of paint but i have no idea how to empty it to get a bucket of water for cement

[vapid trail]

and have a deep dive into pz's rng world? hell no

[sturdy wren]

that's why i said theoretically

[vapid trail]

also buckets of paints i think also eats said buckets, since its not remasteres with liquid mechanic

[sturdy wren]

if only there was a way to hop in and out of debug mode without restarting the game each time

[vapid trail]

the price of cheating

[cunning turtle]

Exactly

[sturdy wren]

i got stuck like twice in a 14 day run

i think looks funny

[real fox]

West Point is spookers

Lots of zombies, I’m almost at 100 kills on day 2 haha

[sturdy wren]

what the fuck is sanity?

[real fox]

The nut face

[cunning turtle]

That's why I use it

[cunning turtle]

That's my favorite city fr

[real fox]

How come

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[sturdy wren]

wait i can just not disable -debug