Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[frozen wyvern]

Does it really? Time to go on a joyride

Mankind is dead
Blood is fuel
Hell is full

[keen gorge]

Maybe they're now powered by zombie blood

Or maybe gasoline comes from zombies

[errant glen]

im mowing over zombies and my tank is just slowly filling up

[keen gorge]

But that's something the government doesn't want you to know

[frozen wyvern]

Is zombie blood still human blood? 🧐

If so we need to start running over our fellow man to cut down on gas prices

Wheres the best way to find a Mason's chisel, or should I just grind knapping for a stone chisel?

[forest shore]

Before you get overzealous make sure your gas tank is actually filling, and you're not just damaging your tank.

[real fox]

stripper outfit aquired

project freakzoid lmfao

[frozen wyvern]

Style is important in the apocalypse

Man how on earth do u level up knapping lol

I only had 6 flint nodules and could only get that xp up to like 20

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/tokusou-sentai-dekaranger-dekaranger-banban-akaza-ban-akaza-thumbs-up-gif-14768666784634421493

[hallow adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/343548853498281986.webp?size=96

[plucky panther]

its native plot armor fr

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cockroach-rainbow-gif-26136180

[plucky panther]

just don't get bitten and you can wear anything!

[frozen wyvern]

I mean if anime has taught ppl anything its that heavy armor is vastly inferior to running around naked I guess

I still dont get those designs lol

[scenic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/freakazoid-freak-gif-4302491

[real fox]

THATS A WORKDDDD????

[scenic gazelle]

Freakazoid, one fo the best cartoons

YEAH!
'95 cartoon

[real fox]

i remmeber waking up at 3 am after binge watching cartoon network as as a lil kid and waking up to robot chicken and frying my brain

[scenic gazelle]

and Steven Spielberg is one of the creators

[frozen wyvern]

Why did my bucket commit mitosis when I made a bucket of clay cement lmao

[vague trench]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/cappys-nft-cappys-cappys-one-of-us-one-of-us-cappys-sei-gif-10943681618443699439

[keen gorge]

There seems to be an unmarked bunker between Fallas Lake and Ekron

[ornate laurel]

and when that bucket of cement is "empty" it won't turn back into a regular, actualyl useful bucket

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-peter-griffin-family-guy-fall-cartoon-gif-15790726

[keen gorge]

It's right above the military surplus store

Coordinates: X: 5575, Y: 9366

Somewhere on the X

[real fox]

hot ass fucking car lmfao heatwave

ignore moodles was excercising lmfao

[hearty pulsar]

just gonna point out that b42 unstable is gonna be cleaned up pretty fast probably

not super fast but a bit faster than b41 unstable at least

[wild oak]

yeah i mean theres a metric ton of people reporting bugs, if anything its only limited by how fast the devs work

[hearty pulsar]

especially with like 20-30 times the amoint of players

more devs and such as well possibly

the sheer amount of feedback has been pretty insane

[ornate laurel]

also, from what i gathered from the veterans, the transition from B40 -> B41 was a lot mroe structural

[hearty pulsar]

that makes sense

[ornate laurel]

and getting everything new working for MP is a bit less monumental than

making MP from scratch (twice IIRC)

[keen gorge]

B40 - B41 was a massive leap

[hearty pulsar]

do you think the dev team has expanded since then? since b41 blew up in popularity?

[keen gorge]

Yeah some of the modders we had back then are devs now

Reason why B41 took so long was it overhauled basically everything

[hearty pulsar]

yep I heard about that, idk which ones though, maybe KI5? rings a bell

game is great, devs are responsive, modding community is great too
couldn't ask for anything better

[keen gorge]

Fenris was one

He was the wizard who made the best gun mods pre B41

[hearty pulsar]

that sounds familiar but I can't quite place where ive seen them

ah I see that makes sense now

well at least they've got a good foundation to build upon

[ornate laurel]

yeah

so i expect full release to come inside a year, even if barely

[hearty pulsar]

yeah sounds about as expected, it took them like 2 years to get from b41 unstable into where it is yeah?

[gleaming perch]

indeed

[hearty pulsar]

should be a bit faster this time around, i've waited a few years now for b42, another year ain't so bad

[gleaming perch]

say my name

Coach King Kalan

[forest shore]

I think at this point about half the dev team were modders at one point

[scenic gazelle]

"Coach King Kalan"

[forest shore]

I think they also had to do major rewrites for the engine itself to may basements possible, so that's a big part of what took so long.

[scenic gazelle]

"You're goddamn right"

[real fox]

HOW LONG DO I GOTTA KEEP SWINGING AT DIS THANG

[scenic gazelle]

DAMN
that takes a lot of effort even with an axe

[gleaming perch]

Good

[opaque schooner]

What’s the interior like?

[gleaming perch]

use axe

[real fox]

i got kinda unlucky, the only thing i found in this gunshop was a shitton of ammo but no guns

LIKE A WHOLE LOTTA AMMO

[scenic gazelle]

random question, did you change the aim options?
the aim crosshair

[real fox]

but 0 guns, actually wait i lied, i found two just as we are speaking but they are kinda shitlol

[scenic gazelle]

I am in dire need of the standard option settings, I changed them and it fucked up my aim crosshair functionality

[real fox]

thoughts on revolver for 0 aim rn? lol

[hallow sail]

like shooting blanks

[scenic gazelle]

I mean, you can land headshots with a revolver, specially M36 which has a very short range
if am I not mistaken it has the least loudness factor

[vague trench]

they take FOREVER NOW lol

or seems like it

[scenic gazelle]

Again, someone please tell me what are the default crosshair settings, please

[ornate laurel]

Well you at least found the quietest guns in the game at least

[vague trench]

for the target ret thingie?

[scenic gazelle]

yes that

[errant glen]

disassembling doors >

[frozen wyvern]

My character just got tense after just cutting down trees, what gives? There aren't any zombies around

And no I didn't get infected either

[ornate laurel]

The seem to have made zombies banging on doors and windows give stress

[frozen wyvern]

Im in a wide open area tho. Weird

[real fox]

the gun store i raided

only two small guns

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah gun and ammo distribution in default 42 so far is nonexistent

[real fox]

got a tent and canteen tho so aint too shabby i guess

[frozen wyvern]

Kinda a shame since it means we cant test out the new aiming

[real fox]

theres guns unlimited but im terrfied of that place

[frozen wyvern]

Thats about as endgame as it gets lol

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah chopping trees makes me consistentky anxious, what in the world

[gleaming perch]

the sound reminds you of your war PTSD (You are a veteran)

[frozen wyvern]

So true bestie

[ornate laurel]

Depending on what day it is (lmao peak day) that place can have between 1.5k and 2.5k Zomboids

[real fox]

im on peak day lmfao

[scenic gazelle]

Guns Unlimited is located in echo creek?

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-princessbride-castle-magic-gif-5156856

[ornate laurel]

Yeah it's the name of the firing range to the west

[frozen wyvern]

Guns unlimited is in the back of Louisville right>

[real fox]

no its in the new area

[frozen wyvern]

Oooooo whoops

[real fox]

yeeeee

[ornate laurel]

It's a doozy

[scenic gazelle]

I see
I am in need of ammo, might check it out later
thanks

[real fox]

my best bet is to raid a police station probably huh

[ornate laurel]

Try the military surplus store from B41

Before the firing range

[real fox]

okie

[scenic gazelle]

Fallas Lake is the easiest place to get guns imo

[gleaming perch]

how so

[scenic gazelle]

their armoury door is not reinforced and it's unlocked most of times, but they only have a single gun locker in there and two regular cop lockers

[ornate laurel]

Fallas lake is good

But the old Military surplus store is located at what's marked "farmers market"

[scenic gazelle]

Oh, didn't know that

[real fox]

im also alot closer to it i think

wonder how ill get there not sure what roat to take out of echo creek

[ornate laurel]

Go east there

Once you hit a T-intersection go south

[real fox]

thank you so much

[ornate laurel]

I've heard that place has a lot of zeds so be ready for a tussle

[real fox]

time for a adventure

[ornate laurel]

But still far less than the damn firing range

[velvet egret]

last Thursdoid of 2024 tomorrow. Let’s see if we surpass the message count again

[real fox]

oh god sardine and pasta stew 🤮

im hungry tho

[frozen wyvern]

yummy yum

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-chew-chewing-yum-funny-gif-469299431371706890

[vague trench]

i finally get to the cow place and freaking looted and theres only an angry angus for a cow lol

[opaque schooner]

Where is this

[vague trench]

that cattle farm by irvington

someone in here suggested id find a cow here lol , but my luck is fart

[opaque schooner]

Have you considered starting a rat farm instead?

[sturdy wren]

R we getting a thursdoid today

[vague trench]

i want milk !! lol

yum rat milk

[sturdy wren]

Is that a thing???

[ornate laurel]

Sheep are probably better for farming milk

[sturdy wren]

AAAA I NEED B42!!!!

[real fox]

has anyone customized the crosshair for aiming?

[sturdy wren]

Can you pick rats up in your inventory and they eat stuff automatically

[frozen wyvern]

I havent but I think ill try now

[vague trench]

i have one but she wont milk unless she has baby it says lol ;l

[sturdy wren]

exactly beuh!!!!!

[ornate laurel]

Yeah

So go find a Ram and have it put a bebby in Dat belly!

[sturdy wren]

I think that's how lactating works irl

[vague trench]

he wont breed lol hes just sitting in freaking hay!!!

[vague trench]

lol but i want a milk machine 5000

[ornate laurel]

Yeah IRL industrialized Milk Farms artificially inseminate Cattle for a reason

[opaque schooner]

It’s a thing yes, you just need 500 rats to start off

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoom-cat-zoom-in-zoom-in-buhh-gif-1189239835505103958

[ornate laurel]

Is it out of season for mating?

[vague trench]

i have no idea lol its umm

[ornate laurel]

Give it

A couple months

[sturdy wren]

how do i get that much without deep frying my mother board

[frozen wyvern]

Why am i given the option to sniff correction fluid 🤨

[sturdy wren]

[ornate laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_sheep_reproduction

Sheep have a breeding season (tupping) in the autumn, though some can breed year-round.

[sturdy wren]

Do it, prolly intended

[ornate laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[opaque schooner]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[sturdy wren]

where can i buy industrial coolers irl?

[vague trench]

cause its funny lol

[opaque schooner]

What is correction fluid?

[sturdy wren]

If they replace emotes in discord and stuff with new ones i will be

[sturdy wren]

You drink it to instantaneously become correct

[frozen wyvern]

How does one make a Large Ceramic Crucible, rather than a Large clay crucible or a small ceramic crucible

TIS making me do my homework

[sturdy wren]

(white paint to correct stuff in text and stuff)

[ornate laurel]

Pottery Wheel then you need to fire it in a Kiln

[frozen wyvern]

I see

Oh my god I always need more clay aghhhh

[ornate laurel]

[frozen wyvern]

How the hell am I gonna get 20 it took me like 3 hours to find 6 lmao

I just wanna melt my cheese grater

[opaque schooner]

Oh lovely

[sturdy wren]

can't you dig for clay

I saw somewhere you could

[frozen wyvern]

Only way Ive found it thus far is by foraging

[sturdy wren]

That's, horrible

[pallid hinge]

There is a mod that allows you to

[severe prawn]

Is daylight shorter during winter, then during summer in Project Zomboid?

[opaque schooner]

Foraging is fun in pz

[pallid hinge]

Yarr

[severe prawn]

Good

Its 7 am for me and outside is dark af

[frozen wyvern]

Foraging is fun but being bottlenecked so hard by clay isnt

[sturdy wren]

It used to be extremely optional and unrewarding unless you're maxxing it

Unless I'm heavily misremembering

[opaque schooner]

Yeah, but I enjoy finding stuff that is considered rare, it feels like an easier way of finding hard to obtain items

Like black leather jeans

[sturdy wren]

But i found like 2 berries in half an hour and got poisoned despite reading the forager journal

UGHHH I can't wait to play b42 it's everything i ever wanted in zomzom

[opaque schooner]

Why can’t you play it

[cunning turtle]

Oh wow 20k? lol

[magic tree]

how to craft anything?

[sturdy wren]

Legacy AMD card

[real fox]

IM HOPING I LAST TWO MONTHS

[pallid hinge]

I believe in you! 💪

[desert spire]

Is crafting a stone anvil worth it?

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[opaque schooner]

RIP

[sturdy wren]

I lasted at most 8 days in b41

Because fuck west point and early helicopter

I got to the gun store, realising i somehow lost my sledge

And then the helicopter.

[hearty pond]

i am waiting for enhanced helicopter events, until then the heli stays out, darn news crews

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah i love expanded heli events, awesome mod

Makes the world feel more alive, paradoxically

[magic tree]

is this a bug? there's not a single recipe even if I have carving lvl 3

[frozen wyvern]

Steam deck aint supported yet

Thats the old crafting menu, cant access the new one with a controller

[hearty pond]

i wonder if canning is coming down later the road for preservation, as a longer term version to the trusty ol jar

[magic tree]

I figured out a work around. if I click the crafting icon on the left side it works. is there a way to reduce the crafting menu ui size??

[severe egret]

Anyone elses sinks bugging out?

[frozen wyvern]

Plumbing is kinda broken atm

[severe egret]

I havent done any rainwater plumbing or anything. Just normal sinks before shutoff not showing up in the context menu at all

[scenic gazelle]

I am glad my car is functional, goddamn

[glacial cape]

You mad man

Attempting the death trap which is LV when it's highly populated now

[hearty pond]

nothing a shotgun couldnt solve

[frozen wyvern]

Where even are you in the photo haha

[sturdy wren]

Shutoff can happen on day 1

but i think a tiny bit of water still remains in sinks?

[severe egret]

It hasnt though. Other sinks are working, and when shutoff happens it doesnt just remove the sink from the context menu

[sturdy wren]

gen no idea

[severe egret]

Definitely a bug, just wondering if anyone else has gotten it

[frozen wyvern]

Sometimes its picky where you right click

[severe egret]

Yeah it aint that either

Yeah it shows up in the "Disassemble" section so definitely not a misclick

[severe prawn]

Project Zomboid has one thing that actually gets into you. despair

https://youtu.be/7rR7V86VE0c?si=l27EWZdtILI4xLAB

https://youtu.be/lOeqpBFy6gw?si=4klZDqgpfoRBoXVd

[cunning turtle]

despair

despair

[severe prawn]

despair

[keen gorge]

It's small but serviceable

[real fox]

[cunning turtle]

[hearty pulsar]

[scenic gazelle]

Damn...

[scenic gazelle]

I died...
but that's the new town
Brandenburg

[wet timber]

This place is so chill, I love it

Got here and died next day

I needed 2 twines for a fishing rod so I headed to the estate in hope to find some in its sheds

[severe prawn]

despair

[hearty pond]

double holster, and shoulder holster dear god i got too much space for pistols, lol

[wet timber]

Got my right arm scratched in the forest and then fcking died because swings became THAT slow

[real fox]

have any of yall checked this out

[glad pawn]

I mean yeah, its basically THE business part of the city

[keen gorge]

Well like I said, with how slow they made combat for 42, I'd be interested in seeing how people would clear LV at higher densities

Beyond just fire

[wet timber]

Damn

[real fox]

nut worthy soundtrack

probably my favorite soundtrack in the game lmfao

esp the low part

[heavy crown]

Once you get high enough skill in strength and your melee weapon of choicel, you're back to being endurance-gated rather than muscle strain-gated.

[severe prawn]

Nah. I like mid part more

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[heavy crown]

It'd probably be about the same as if a B41 character was dealing with that same zed density, probably a bit easier because of the mix of fast and slow shamblers in net

[severe prawn]

[real fox]

that good too

[severe prawn]

Also. Check high part of this https://youtu.be/pNz8tr3s600?si=-rTTZSXDc-zOcs0j

That violin is just gorgeous

[keen gorge]

Strength and fitness looks improbable if you didn't already start with it high enough or have it set to 5X or higher in the XP settings

[real fox]

erosion go crazy

[heavy crown]

Yes, but that's why they were always meta traits.

[real fox]

drunk driving this in game lmfao

[hearty pond]

I'd say shotguns but they seem a little inconsistence for multi target currently

[severe prawn]

[keen gorge]

Unironically, I managed to clear a large portion using pistols

I find shotguns to be dogshit now

Range is too low

[hearty pond]

i cleared about 600 zombies around the rosewood PD, most of it with a JS-2000

they pretty much one shot anything within 8-10 tiles, but multitarget hits were more or less random

atleast i couldnt figure out how to reliably set it up

the system overall is a massive improvement to what we had in b41 (I'll miss you, "effectively really long stick"), but I'll probably move back to ATRO

which literally just updated this night, guess there is my christmas present

[visual trail]

they said they fixed this, I'm gonna test it for myself

[heavy crown]

A "meta" melee combat character build is going to have:

• Athletic
• Strong
• +1 Nimble (for +75% base experience)
• +1 Maintenance
• • to a specific weapon that they plan on maining

Pretty much everything else is either nice-to-have or in net wastes more time to get over all of those perks.

Arguably B42's rebalance of loot drops, zed density, and adding muscle strain made most components of the "meta" comp more noticeable to where they almost feel as mandatory as the other good things.

[keen gorge]

Eh I started at 5/5. I could also make the argument that crafted weapons are overtuned so it's better to focus on the skills that allow you to craft them since they basically 1 shot as long as you have 1-2 on their weapon skills

[red hazel]

I had my weapon miss and they went for a bite but they also miss lol

[heavy crown]

A construction worker with wilderness knowledge to pick up maintenance is +1 carpentry, knapping, and carving so they're already pretty decent at that.

[keen gorge]

Also spear mains rejoice

We have the most powerful crafted weapons choices

[hearty pond]

I am sad that there are not more long blades in the game to find early on

[red hazel]

Are there 2h long blades like a great sword?

[hearty pond]

by the point you can craft em, you probably already have a relatively high level in another skill

[real fox]

is it possible to repiar the machete in build 42

i cant seem to find it using this recipe anymore https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Machete

[visual trail]

sharpen it

[real fox]

does sharpening improve the condition? ill try that i did find a grindstone

[hearty pond]

i dont think so, but there's a bunch of crafted crude blades

[visual trail]

change it's handle

[glacial cape]

Yes you can repair a machete with epoxy

[keen gorge]

You only need knapping 1 or carving 1 for stone spear or bone spears

[glacial cape]

under the repair tab I think its ballistic tape & epoxy you need level 3 maintenance

[visual trail]

a weapon has 2 parts that can be changed head and handle

[real fox]

it doesnt have a handle

[keen gorge]

And those weapons are hella overtuned

[visual trail]

sharpness 0

[real fox]

yeee ima go sharpen it

[visual trail]

you need a whetstone

[real fox]

ill see if something comes in recipe if i sharpen it at grindstone i found

[glacial cape]

"Gardening/Weapon" what?

[visual trail]

or a grindstone which can be build and is much more efficient

[glacial cape]

Think you can use a file as well right?

[visual trail]

yes but it's less efficient

[hearty pond]

also, did anyone else notice that there are some very detailed models in the world like the drill press or that two gas bottles-thingy? My guess is they are at some point going to be crafting stations

[visual trail]

I recommend the grindstone

[red hazel]

Im doing a new playthrough with sprinters. If set on normal, in 50 zombies, how many are sprinters? I may just set it to low

[visual trail]

whetstones are too nerfed imo

[real fox]

LMFAOO I SPUN IN THE AIR FRM RUNNING OVER DEAD ZOMBIE AND ALMOST DIED LMFAO

[visual trail]

check percentage in advanced view

[real fox]

some harry potter level of flying too lmfao

[red hazel]

oh. Didnt know it shows that

[visual trail]

no caps pls

[keen gorge]

They need to adjust sharpness, it decreases way too fast

[red hazel]

33% pretty high for normal. Ima go like 10%

[keen gorge]

It starts to get silly when machetes and katanas need a recharge every 4 zombies otherwise you lose a lot of damage

[glacial cape]

Yeah i think they're gonna have crafting stations out in the world for things like cutting metal etc in factory as old factory machinery which we can get components for/from to maintain them but eventually their plan is like cars to have them degrade over time

[hearty pond]

i mean, most blades arent intended to be hitting bone often

[visual trail]

lol bugged, I smashed 80 zeds with the machete and it didn't loose sharpness

[hearty pond]

even butcher knifes have to often be sharpened professionally on the weekly, depending on how much they are used

[heavy crown]

Isn't it highly dependent on maintenance level?

(Granted, maintenance sucks to level, so it's a distinction without a difference)

[visual trail]

yes and if the butcher knife is sharpened and you have a high skill in butchery you get a good amount of meat

[keen gorge]

I don't think so

[glacial cape]

Metal pipe my beloved <3 More durable than hammers nowadays because it doesn't have a handle so the head doesn't go flying off

[hearty pond]

some like the bandsaw you can already use!

[visual trail]

axes seem to be OP atm

[glacial cape]

Yeah I found one myself and marked it because it seems like a very good thing to use for crafting! I doubt we can pick them up though I tried and I had no option

[keen gorge]

The chance to lose condition when you use whetstones is influenced by maintenance

[glacial cape]

they might be intended to be unpickable

[keen gorge]

But that's about it I think

[hearty pond]

I really want them to include a chance of a catastrophic failure at low skill levels for the bandsaw, but I'm also evil

[visual trail]

not atm engineering skill needs to be updated

lmao a hatchet can chop the entire forest in the map without loosing any condition

[glacial cape]

I don't think we can lift up heavy industrial machinery anyways

[visual trail]

You will be able to build alternatives

[glacial cape]

without something like a forklift and it wouldn't make sense for things like servers

[hearty pond]

man i can already see someone hoarding all the bandsaws just to troll the server

[keen gorge]

That would be me day 1

[glacial cape]

Yeah but eventually they will fail and finding components to fix them would get rarer and rarer especially if their goal is for servers to be running long term straight into a post apocalyptic medieval society but they will probably last for years anyways

[hearty pond]

but also, having something like a large tools producer in the outskirts of LV that has most, if not all machines in their storage would make for some tempting "hey lets meet up and clear this"

[glacial cape]

We're talking 10-20 years btw so they'll be kicking for a good few it all depends on what their idea is with them

[visual trail]

You will also be able to craft spare sparts for them and if the repair requirements are just scrap electronics you will only have to maintain them, like the generator

[glacial cape]

I'd imagine it would work like spare engine parts for cars

[hearty pond]

the idea was that a table saw needs a blade replacement every so often

or rather you need to resharpen the blade

[glacial cape]

components are rare and you can take them from cars but you wouldn't get that many so eventually they will degrade with use

[visual trail]

there is a blog I've posted it here some time ago where they talk about machines and how will they work

[glacial cape]

you'd have to take good care of it

yeah there is let me look for it

[hearty pond]

i did find a few script files regarding to the testing of parts in crafting machines when i understood the scripts right

[subtle tendon]

They still haven’t caught the car bandit 😢

[hearty pond]

also, machines that have tanks included and can use said tanks for crafting (i assume thats for brewing later on?)

[glacial cape]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/08/the-connection-is-made/

[visual trail]

Turbo was experimenting with them in a dev testbed with current sprites and added function to them you can see a steam boiler, juice maker etc

[red hazel]

It would be cool if we can set the sprinter's hearing and vision in sandbox. I'd want them to have better hearing and vision over the others rather than a general setting for them all

[visual trail]

this

[keen gorge]

Didn't they also mention there would be a brewing skill?

[hearty pond]

yeah but i think that comes later

[keen gorge]

At last I can brew my own moonshine

[visual trail]

Yes and we saw the brewing profession but for later

[hearty pond]

yeah i found remnants of that testing in the script, but i couldnt get it to work as a mod, mainly because i dont have a clue how to work with the new UI system

i have not given up yet

[red hazel]

can zombies attack or break down those walls? It goes around like a square. Looks like a good place to build a base. Planning on building there on my new playthrough

[glacial cape]

New crafting systems
Pottery
Blacksmithing
Stone working
Brewing
Weapon crafting

There was also talks of a potential tech tree

[keen gorge]

So far blacksmithing and weapons are the only ones with things going for them

[hearty pond]

glass working seems pretty neat

[glacial cape]

which I'm hoping replaces the reliance on using recipe magazines

[visual trail]

blacksmithing is still very WIP

[keen gorge]

There's not much incentive to go pottery and stone is undeveloped imo

[visual trail]

with a primitive furnace you are still locked behind some recipes and skills

[glacial cape]

it is unstable beta ver of b42 but yeah we'll get it eventually

Looks like pottery & blacksmithing will most likely intermingle which makes sense

kinda like how carving & carpentry do

[hearty pond]

yeah they stated very clearly that the crafting system is implemented but it'll be pretty bare bones for the time being

[visual trail]

Pottery is nice atm but the stations are unbalanced, no good animations when interacting with them

[heavy crown]

More crafting books to hunt

[glacial cape]

^^^ this in their little list they have expanded crafting listed

[glacial cape]

Really hoping we get a tech tree or something or auto learn recipes because I am sick of hunting for these damn books & magazines

[visual trail]

it's funny that the primitive kiln and advanced kiln require same materials to build

[visual trail]

they stated that recipes will have an auto learn function

[keen gorge]

Most recipes seem to have an auto learn function

What magazines seem to do is allow you to craft them sooner

[hearty pond]

yeah in the crafting menu you can see when something is autolearned by leveling

[keen gorge]

Just discovered something potentially useful to someone

Under known recipes, there's a tab for agriculture that shows what plants and growing seasons your character knows

[sturdy wren]

AAAA I NEED MY ZOMBOID, TOO

[spare breach]

Project zomboid 2

[real fox]

💀

[keen gorge]

Electric Boogaloo

[glacial cape]

Build 100

[heavy crown]

With a Unity splash jumpscare

[lethal wolf]

Can't wait to start todays PZ adventure after little sleep because a bunny of real kind got through defenses to destroy wife's work (and gaming) PC cables waking me up to 3 digit euro sum worth of damages done

last time I played PZ when not sleeping well was lethal

[glacial cape]

I'm sure it will be fine!(it will not This is how you died)

[lethal wolf]

I think I'm gonna somehow get all the bunnies on PZ map, put them into a single enclosure and molotov them, for reasons

[glacial cape]

Most sane PZ player

that is light work to what I put my chicken population "problem" through

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/pio-clueless-gif-26728681

[lethal wolf]

maybe today I'll get Deerhead Lake to me (again), clear the nearby surprise silent-honk-bug horde, fetch 2 pigs I found near a gas station and start a pig farmer life

[cunning turtle]

When project zomboid 3

[real fox]

ermmm.....probably horrific but why not just stuff them in a basement with generator 💀

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO no more chickenapocalypse

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/link-zelda-cuckoo-illestzz-run-gif-16788331

[spare breach]

I found a trailer with chickens relatively a while ago but eventually an animal-related issue caused my save to be bricked until tech support told me to reset the animals by deleting an apop file, which DID work but killed all of the chickens ive been caring for

[glacial cape]

• the added benefit of free generator fuel! (This is not PETA verified)

[spare breach]

Tldr probably not gonna touch anymore animals for a while

[glacial cape]

Playing Rimworld may or may not cause side effects to your mental health

[lethal wolf]

at best my first run's initial 2 chickens I found, may have duplicated, because I don't recall seeing more than 2 in a hutch at my spawn house, but when I left, I butchered 4 chickens - no further problem with animals yet, but we'll see - the pigs I found were a male one, inside a trailer, and outside of it, a female one

[spare breach]

I dont even know if physically there was any problem with my chickens ingame because my game suddenly got unplayable when they were already out of sight so i never got to see what actually happened to them

[real fox]

btw food from animals need a fucking buff lmfao

[keen gorge]

As a RimWorlder I'm proud to say the first thing I'll do if NPCs get to PZ is find out if I can give them peg legs

[real fox]

butter is pretty much the go to as far as resources go i imagine if you can make that from cows

[spare breach]

You mean calories-wise

[real fox]

yeeeeee

[glacial cape]

Organ trade gonna be the new meta! 💀

[spare breach]

Because -98 hunger uncooked is very good for a whole chicken

[keen gorge]

You can

[real fox]

thank fucking god 😭

[keen gorge]

2 cows or sheep is literally just infinite food. Milk is that OP

[real fox]

i havent found cow yet

https://tenor.com/view/polish-cow-cow-dancing-dance-dancing-cow-gif-19109155

[glacial cape]

Milk cartons you can find out in the world don't seem to spoil either

[sturdy wren]

wait cant i just make zomboid use my integrated graphics

[real fox]

you can at the cost of lower fps but still doable :)

[sturdy wren]

3 FPS

[red hazel]

chocolate ones do. Must be the chocolate

[sturdy wren]

ON THE TITLE SCREEN

[red hazel]

sprinters on low (6%) but I've already seen two after leaving the first house. It's gonna get interesting

[sturdy wren]

6% is a pretty high chance ngl

[red hazel]

Hmm normal is at 33% so I thought 6% was low lol

[sturdy wren]

every 16th zombie you see is a sprinter

like all people i know that play with sprinters set it to like 1-2%

the beauty

[red hazel]

oh. I'll see how far I can last before lowering it

[lethal wolf]

1% sprinter ended my first run after all, bad timing, at bad place...6% sounds like you really have to play the game differently 😄

[real fox]

shittttt

i have 1 percent too month and a half strong here i hope i get lucky

[glacial cape]

Does anyone know if I need a cockerel for eggs or can I just get away with keeping hens so I don't end up with another chicken problem

[red hazel]

I did set vision and hearing to "normal or poor" rather than "random" so maybe that can off set it a bit

[lethal wolf]

my spawn house chicken hutch on 1st run had 2 female hens, hutch was full of eggs - in real life you don't need a male birb to have edible eggs from hens

[glacial cape]

Sweet ty I'm just gonna keep a full hutch of hens then

[lethal wolf]

good luck, I want some chickens too soon to have eggs to spice up cooking life, if something stupid doesn't end my 2nd run

[sturdy wren]

the graphics are all soapy but the game doesnt run half bad outside of the title which for some reason has 2-3 fps

[visual trail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/lZpyEKqX7r farming discussion

[sturdy wren]

is it me or is the title screen looking jaggy

[severe egret]

Any way to edit sandbox settings mid-save in B42?

[glacial cape]

Go into debug mode

[severe egret]

Cheers

[pallid hinge]

Alternatively you can use this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386906181&searchtext=

whatever you prefer, you got options

[severe egret]

Bahaa thanks man. i just found that myself too

[pallid hinge]

😄

[real fox]

SHIEEEET

poor lad/lass

[lethal wolf]

my 2nd character had a picture of children sleeping in his dark basement and some artistic nudity book

[real fox]

[lethal wolf]

the spawns are wild

[severe egret]

My wife is insistent on carrying around a "Photograph of a bear" she found early on, and looks at it for luck before a run

[lethal wolf]

I suppose in this case a woman, your wife, chose a bear over you

[severe egret]

Its a pretty majestic bear

[lethal wolf]

while in reality if you shave their fur entirely they're more like crack addict looking creatures

[real fox]

THE RATS LMFAO

[lethal wolf]

go inside another way and pick them all up

become the rat lady, to rule over them,

[coral basin]

There's also that mod that lets you... produce milk

[keen gorge]

Hell yeah RP as a cow

[sturdy wren]

is anyone else having this issue

[keen gorge]

Now all I'm missing is a mod that lets you eat grass

[real fox]

you can eat grass

[keen gorge]

Can you?

[real fox]

yes not joking haha

ive done it before 💀

[keen gorge]

Cow RP incoming

[visual trail]

yes

[real fox]

its so silly

[sturdy wren]

i am unable to hit beard type

[visual trail]

grass cutting -7 hunger

[sturdy wren]

i dont want a fucking mustache 😭

[compact crow]

Just press ESC when you are ingame

[sturdy wren]

is it genuinely just me or does my game actually look off

[visual trail]

check graphics settings > compressed textures, 2048 texture size

with NVIDIA graphics cards > anisotropic filtering at 16x and antialiasing on override 4x, threaded optimisation enabled and triple buffering if V Sync is on

[glacial cape]

Fixed my chicken overpopulation problem (there's 11 more in my backpack)

[sturdy wren]

i'm off igpu because dgpu doesnt work

250 CHICKLENS

John Zomboid lifting up 465 kg of stuff like a champ

[visual trail]

then I don't have any solution if you're on integrated graphics, need to move to a dedicated card

[sturdy wren]

when they fix the amd issue

[glacial cape]

I had to battle my character being queasy the whole time time to butcher for the sweet sweet butchering xp

[sturdy wren]

WHO PUTS BREAD IN THE FRIDGE

[glacial cape]

Psychopaths

[knotty yew]

someone who wants you to be able to make a sandwich for longer after the power goes out 🥰

[visual trail]

so over fertilizing the crop will kill it if someone tries this

[glacial cape]

Yeah that was a thing in B41

didn't really need fertilizer in b41 cause crops grow much faster but it might be worth now

I think the limit is 3-4?

[visual trail]

4-5

[keen gorge]

Isn't it once per stage?

[visual trail]

the seeding phase and the blooming phase should be fertilized

[sturdy wren]

did they heavily speed up moving items time

[visual trail]

also -10 hours on the next growing phase if fertilizer is used

[glacial cape]

that's kinda bad ngl lol

if crops can take upwards of 240 days now -10 hours is nothing

[hearty pond]

[visual trail]

for everyone having this issue when trying to sharpen a blade

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

can someone let me know what loot is in these buildings in guns unlimited?

[keen gorge]

All I got are pens and papers

[real fox]

shieeet

what about that brown building, same thing?

[sturdy wren]

moodles still look fucked up with the old moodles mod

[keen gorge]

I dunno, most of the outer buildings seem to be empty

Crates outside are empty as well

[vapid trail]

except the tent

[sturdy wren]

i thought it'd fix the weird looking ugly color background

[cunning turtle]

Why charlii is angry

[keen gorge]

I don't know how much of my experience might be due to the new looted building mechanic though

[vapid trail]

its just my pfp
dont worry abt it

[red hazel]

Imagine we can hide behind wooden fences (not the tall ones) when crouching. It would make stealth a lot better

[keen gorge]

We could

[red hazel]

could we? I was crouching and they saw me

[keen gorge]

They still have memories

So they would still know your last general location

[red hazel]

they were walking to the house that I triggered the alarm. One was walking by and saw me

[visual trail]

check the last blog post there is a video showing how stealth works

the radius is still big during the day compared to fog and night

[red hazel]

I thought that was more for cars. I'll try again to see if they see me

[visual trail]

that radius is both for vision and hearing

[red hazel]

so this radius decreases when behind something. Not exactly line of sight kind of thing?

Like, if Im staying still, by a wooden fence and 20ft at the opposite side is a zombie, I shouldnt be spotted. But if there's a radius, I guess it is what it is

[real fox]

almost fucking died at guns unlimited but we balling

i think i have a plan, not a good plan , but a plan

[sturdy wren]

why is the corpse moaning

[real fox]

if ur playing build 42 thats ur characters voice

[sturdy wren]

i think i found a suicide note

[subtle tendon]

will build 90 be the fabled vr update 🤑

[keen gorge]

No the Knox Virus drops in real life

[real fox]

LMFAO

imagine sprinters irl wed be fuckeddd

gotta live on a remote island like their gonna do in 28 years later

[pallid hinge]

spoilers

[real fox]

IT SHOWS IT IN THE TRAILER I SWARE XD

[pallid hinge]

I don't watch trailers!

[real fox]

im sorry 😭

[pallid hinge]

it's ok ❤️

[real fox]

now that ur around

what are your thought on thinning the hordes in guns unlimited? ive spent like 3 days clearing it and the outside area is mostly clear, inside tho......i havent dared checked lmfao

im on high population rn ( peak )

[spare breach]

Ah ty, now i get it

[sturdy wren]

is this normal

[pallid hinge]

Uh honestly I haven't gotten that far, I am still sitting at my base with the ambulance - been sick the past few days irl so I haven't felt like trying to play 😢

I might just take the ammo I got from the other gunstore and start blasting - I have 4 or 5 boxes of shotgun shells now so might be able to at least make a dent

[cunning turtle]

Yes

[keen gorge]

Imo

[red hazel]

how is it compared to the military outpost? Even I thought there were too many there lol

[keen gorge]

Guns unlimited is not worth it

Too many zombies to clear for the amount of loot it gives

[pallid hinge]

so I am better off blasting the army surplus store?

felt like there was more zeds there but spread out

[keen gorge]

Not particularly. They seem to clump up closer to the woods

You can stealth in without engaging them

[pallid hinge]

mmm didn't seem like it when I was there last, they were having a party right outside

[keen gorge]

I'm guessing migration?

[soft viper]

We wouldn't be fucked provided the infection only spreads through droplets

[keen gorge]

But yeah they clump up closer to the woods. I've observed it for the past 6 playthroughs now

[pallid hinge]

possible, this was my last pass through that area https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2912473863895260/97998D3A597B132307DE1E51892BAC77F4004069/

[keen gorge]

Airborne as well

[soft viper]

We'll be fucked if the infection spreads in any commonly used product or element

[soft viper]

If it was airborne we're fucked

[keen gorge]

We don't actually know what started it too so the original vector of infection might still be unknown

[soft viper]

But yeah if it's only droplets then sprinters wouldn't be a problem

The military isn't actually incompetent

[visual trail]

I was gonna say it but I don't want to spoil anything

[real fox]

give me a box of crayons and some guns and ill handle them 🪖 😼

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[soft viper]

What's more problematic than airborne infection is magic zombi

At best, unkillable
At worst, borderline eldritch horror

Think of Still Wakes the Deep but everyone is infected except you

[sturdy wren]

it is airborne but some people are immune to its airborne transfer

[native spear]

Will we get the new 4k bob and Kate back

[sturdy wren]

at least, i think so

[keen gorge]

Cordyceps is worse

[soft viper]

It is, I'm just pointing out scenarios outside of zomboid

[keen gorge]

Food itself was infected

[soft viper]

That's not too bad

[sturdy wren]

i still dont understand how that works

like some people are immune to airborne transfer ?

[keen gorge]

Infected grain got grounded up to flour and that flour got distributed to the whole world

[sturdy wren]

of a brand new virus thing ?

[soft viper]

Perhaps antibodies or sum shi

[native spear]

Maybe our zomboid characters got special genes

[soft viper]

Yeah and that's not as bad as infection being airborne

[keen gorge]

They're immune to one strain but the other can overpower their natural immunity

[soft viper]

You'll be good if you managed to not eat the infected bread

[keen gorge]

Airborne viruses in real life have an effective range. You can keep it localized pretty easily as long as you respond fast to it

[soft viper]

Provided you knew it was gonna happen beforehand

[real fox]

doesnt the US have a plan againts the idea of zombies already via their database, i remember reading something about that and found it silly, not sure if true or not

[soft viper]

There is

[keen gorge]

The US has plans for everything

[woven beacon]

they do but its mostly a meme

[soft viper]

If it was declassified then I don't think it was

They considered the possibility seriously

[sturdy wren]

how do i even get a workbench

what IS a workbench ?

[keen gorge]

I can imagine them whipping out a big ass document at United Nations if hell portals open up just because they had too much free time to think up ludicrous scenarios

[soft viper]

A bench you work on

[soft viper]

What too much freedom does to a country:

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[real fox]

you need to be near any table basically

counters work too, basically anything with a raised flat surface and is furniture

[sturdy wren]

can i make said table

[real fox]

you can go to any table in the game

[sturdy wren]

i am deep in the forest at this point

[real fox]

easier

hmmmmmm, you might be ableto use thats huge rock looking thingsif you find them

[sturdy wren]

surely hopefully

[keen gorge]

There's a primitive table I know you can craft at carpentry 1

Needs only 1 log

[sturdy wren]

i did not think of sleep

[real fox]

the first 9 days watch life and living tv at 6am 12pm and 6pm i think you can easily get skills for carpentry that way too

[sturdy wren]

can i craft a tv ?

[real fox]

i dont think so but you can steal one and bring it with you if you have a car or sum so ur not overloaded

[sturdy wren]

it's like day 4

[gaunt zodiac]

how do I get an animal to calm down? pig has been stressed out

[keen gorge]

Pet them

[gaunt zodiac]

how many times usually till they calm down?

[neat saffron]

personally i just ignore them
just make sure theres no zombies around and theyll chill out eventually

[sturdy wren]

is there some way to make hud smaller ?

[keen gorge]

That I'm not sure

[sturdy wren]

they accounted for big monitors but not for small ones

[severe egret]

Aye, im playing through a TV at the moment and have to set resolution lowish to be able to see the hud, but that makes the crafting UI and Skill UI go offscreen

[astral brook]

We might reach 25k or more

[visual trail]

the crafting UI and build UI must be reworked in the way that the minimum height and width of the windows needs to be more than it is now so you can make it smaller it takes too much of your screen rn

[keen gorge]

This seems to fix the basement power issue in a roundabout way

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3392001801

[real fox]

how so 🤔

[keen gorge]

Excavated areas are not considered indoors

[real fox]

ah okay

[keen gorge]

Excavate an area, plop down the gen, and basement power should be good. No poisoning

[glacial cape]

Holy crap already got a way to make our own underground spaces

or expand the preexisting basements sorry

[visual trail]

yup looks nice atm

[visual trail]

nobody cares about that anymore now that 42 is out

[severe egret]

Pz modders legit got some pace

[astral brook]

Still a fun achievement

[sturdy wren]

what is 25k or more

[glacial cape]

Think we'll get a thrusdoid today from TIS wishing the community Merry Christmas?

oh nvm they already did a tweet

[sturdy wren]

how the fuck do i get clay

i thought it was foraging for stones but i only found 9 flint nodules and 1 stone

and bleach

[flat phoenix]

Pretty sure it’s foraging but hard to find

There’s a mod that lets you dig for it I think

[sturdy wren]

nd im supposed to get 20?????/

[real fox]

you get muscle strain in your neck from tailoring thats so funny xD

[sturdy wren]

huh ?

[visual trail]

forage near a lake or river that's where clay is usually found

or use that mod to dig for clay but it's unbalanced

[sturdy wren]

where is lake or river in muldraugh

[visual trail]

dude....open the game map or the online map and check

press M and after that Q

[visual trail]

lmao so cool

[keen gorge]

Which ones

Closest and safest body of water to spawn would probably be the one near the campsites

But specifically lakes or rivers? You're going to West Point

[sturdy wren]

genuinely why the fuck cant you vault over counters

[sturdy wren]

the thing is i dont remember there being any in muld?

i kept accidentally hitting q in cars and attracted all the zombies and locked myself behind a counter to kite the zombies away but then you cant vault over them for some fucking reason and i got eaten

[keen gorge]

There's none just little ponds and stuff

[sturdy wren]

exactly

[glacial cape]

There's an lake by the farm to the North

inbetween that farm & the bar there should be a lake

[red hazel]

There's a zombie in there. Locked door as well. Feels like if I hop the window, I'm going to get immediately bitten lol. No hammer to break down the door as well

[glacial cape]

can you hit him from the corner?

[red hazel]

nah, cant even see him

[glacial cape]

I wouldn't risk it then

[ornate parcel]

push the door (stand right up against it and press space)

it'll aggro the zombie, alternatively you could sprint right outside to make it leave as well

[static heart]

Whisper

[red hazel]

he's hitting the door but it's been a while and the door is still up lol. I found a hammer, was dissembling it but it drawn some noise. Zombies came. Im just going to leave it for now

[cunning turtle]

[visual trail]

1 zombie can't break a door, it requires a minimum of 2

[rare cedar]

Are there any news about the amd issue?

[cunning turtle]

F

[visual trail]

F for amd

[cunning turtle]

Old amd*

[visual trail]

any amd

[cunning turtle]

I got an amd gpu I and got no issue

[magic tree]

how to make the crafting ui smaller??

[cunning turtle]

Good question

[magic tree]

mine is way out of the screen

[visual trail]

same, they take up too much

[potent summit]

i need more...

[cunning turtle]

Blud cannot stop

[red hazel]

How to heal sickness? My dude literally got sick until he died. I was resting, sleeping and kept him fed

He turned into a zombie. Guess it was a scratch I got earlier lol

[glacial cape]

Jesus

[real fox]

2-3 of those hours afk tho for working out and cooking

[brittle granite]

Don’t think so nah

[keen gorge]

Mechanics is so much less of a grind now

It seems they buffed XP gain in some places and those carzone VHS tapes are more common now

[glacial cape]

Yeah unfortunately can't say the same for welding which is essentially the new metalworking

like 1 car wreck only gives 20 xp even with a 3 skill book, they've severely nerfed that

[red hazel]

What does this even unlock?

[static heart]

nothing i guess

[spare breach]

it unlocks a unlock

[glacial cape]

clearly for a schematic unlock

[static heart]

no

just an useless item

[red hazel]

yea. I read it and it didnt even have a ✅

[glacial cape]

I was being sarcastic lol it doesn't really translate over text

[fleet loom]

It unlocks zombie brains!

[steep pebble]

never remove a placed floor next to an existing building

currently falling indefinetly

[glacial cape]

Might wanna switch to debug to save yourself there

[glacial cape]

you'll die of fall damage

[steep pebble]

im trying to find out how

[glacial cape]

Steam > Project zomboid > Right click and go into properties > General > Type -debug under launch options

[steep pebble]

thank you

[glacial cape]

np

[forest shore]

Turn cheats on > god mode > fast move and use the arrow keys to move yourself out.

[static heart]

or no clip

or open map and right click -> teleport here

[forest shore]

God mode is important tho, you might take fall damage and die if you don't.

[real fox]

found a barbell lets gooo

[glacial cape]

Oh you doing a zero 2 hero?

[forest shore]

I might try that on this next run.

Echo creek zero to hero.

I'm enjoying B42 so freaking much lol

[glacial cape]

Honestly that might make it a whole lot easier

Just due to the low pop in rural areas unless you're in a town

[forest shore]

Ye

I'm mainly interested in the farming of B42. That and the new crafting. So echo creek will give me a chance to do that.

That and I can finally explore the new towns

[real fox]

yummers

[magic tree]

for those playing on Steam Deck. Change your right track pad to mouse and mouse click. then play at desktop mode. it's playable 🙂

[forest shore]

I just play docked :p

[keen gorge]

Eh its still better to wait for official support. New UI is super finicky

[magic tree]

you play with mouse and keyboard?

[forest shore]

It's playable even on 1080p. And yes I use mouse and keyboard.

[left kindle]

guys what do they mean by "Intermediate Update" in the roadmap?

[sleek hinge]

Same with car batteries draining extremely fast

[sleek hinge]

We know as much as you abt that

[left kindle]

great

maybe they meant a smaller update with a smaller scope?

[sleek hinge]

yeah

i dunno, add more animals or add the rest of b42

[left kindle]

yeah, but we're getting NPCs before that

[glacial cape]

Where is this?

[lament star]

Guh

[forest shore]

We should get NPCs on B43.

[sleek hinge]

I don't think so. I'm not so optimistic of NPCs that fast.

[jaunty gyro]

Was it the ligma edition?

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-mouth-open-orange-ohmygodcat-gif-17568478110113078410

[real fox]

sigma edition

[lament star]

I believe the devs stated, for adding npcs, first they’ll be “shallow but wide”, and then they’ll gradually add more complexity and depth to the npcs

[glacial cape]

What is ligma

[real fox]

oh no

[flat phoenix]

It’s what caused the Knox virus

[real fox]

PANCAKE TIME

[left kindle]

they said it on the roadmap

b43 is NPCs Stage I

[sleek hinge]

Yeah, but b42 isin't out officially yet, and they said other things that change VERY MUCH along the way. It was what? 3 or 4 years for the unstable is out.

[flat phoenix]

I hope they make climbable ladders. Be hilarious seeing my character fall off due to muscle strain

[sleek hinge]

I'm not being a hater, i'm just saying that things can change along the way, cause problems happens.

[real fox]

into a pit of zambies too lmfao

[reef pecan]

Since I’m not sure where to suggest this I’ll suggest it here
So far the only real complaint I have about the crafting system has more to do with clay than the system itself
I feel like with how important clay is in early crafting like primitive metalworking and pottery it should be a bit easier to come by, or by adjusting the cost of things like the kilns
At the moment it’s like there’s no reason to build a primitive kiln since the advanced one costs the exact same and has the same requirements

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[glacial cape]

Either that or add new options to gather clay/increase the amount of clay per foraging for now

[reef pecan]

That’s what I’m thinking
Having it so you can get more than a single piece from foraging or by having things like clay deposits by bodies of water like the new “ore” nodes

Actually this has given me an idea for a bit of a challenge, but idk how to enable and use debug so I won’t bother for now

[glacial cape]

I think for now increasing the foraging amount would work as a temporary fix, later down the line though it'd be cool if foraging was still an option to gather clay but you'd get more by a river/lake unless that's already a thing, and they could have an option to gather clay from the river/lake with an bucket & a spade

[forest shore]

I recall seeing it in a blog that it's planned? I don't remember which one.

[flat phoenix]

I thought the same, I’m sure it’ll happen eventually

[spare breach]

on the topic of that, there really should be way more tools you can use as substitutes for other tools, such as; instead of spades, just use a gardening trowel, or a whole shovel, etc

i dont like how it is currently with some recipes explicitly only working with, say, a spade

[ornate laurel]

so i did some testing with -debug and the edit world settings mod

Plants won't grow if you have the "growing seasons" world setting enabled

[edgy blade]

I mean, it's a little hard to fix from a dev's standpoint
And I'm not sure how you'll test it when it feels like really bad luck
But kinda pissed me off ngl

[broken marsh]

for anybody leveling up maintenance:

Using a sharp object like an axe or a knife then sharpening using a file you get around 1.5xp each time you sharpen it

[spare breach]

you can use a file to sharpen? o h

[regal spindle]

Badly but yes

[spare breach]

sounds like a better idea to stick to my whetstones

[ornate laurel]

it is

also sharpness can never go above blade/axe head condition

[regal spindle]

and if it fucks up I don't think you get another go? though maybe the condition just dropped too much

[spare breach]

that's something i've learned only later today

i believe a lot of people still do not know

i dont agree with that being the correct course of action though; ive always viewed the two stats as independent; sharpness is the condition of the blade and "condition" is the structural integrity of the entire tool

you should be able to sharpen the blade as much as is needed without it relying on the weapon's structural integrity

[hasty dagger]

Found a scrap metal sword on a zombie. was great fun until it broke in half

[spare breach]

because the lower your sharpness is, the faster your condition will decline --> you quickly spiral down into super fast condition deterioration

[regal spindle]

well, get the peices and see if you can reassemble it

[regal spindle]

well sharpness is a new mech so I imagine it's one of the things to give feedback about

[hasty dagger]

are you able to craft a sledgehammer now?

[flat phoenix]

Sure you could sharpen a blade as much as you want but the structural integrity is what’s going to make that weapon effective or not.

You could have the sharpest blade in the game but if the condition is bad it’ll snap straight away

[regal spindle]

Probably but it's a toolhead item so you probably need an advanced forge for it

[spare breach]

what would be the appropriate place to give the feedback at

[regal spindle]

forums or steam generally, discord is too fast moving a thing to keep track of stuff on

[spare breach]

that is correct, but in that case the blade was never high quality to begin with

i would guess it wouldnt snap apart entirely at first

[regal spindle]

some steels are also just garbage tier and just will not hold a good edge

[silk nova]

still compass are not working?

[regal spindle]

compass..? wat

[spare breach]

i'm just saying that sharpness shouldnt be capped by the weapon's condition because it does not make sense

let me sharpen the blade as much as i want so i can get a full use out of the weapon b4 it inevitably breaks pls

[flat phoenix]

You need a good handle for the blade to be of any good use. Without a good base integrity your blade is no use.

[spare breach]

ok, but sharpness isnt the whole integrity fo the blade. Just the edge thats supposed to cut

[silk nova]

yes i fpund a compass i remember in one blog they were showing them using it

[spare breach]

thus, it is not the condition of the blade. The blade can hold, but it may not cut as well as before

[silk nova]

i don't remember which was the blog

[flat phoenix]

I think what they have is fine. Keep sharpness and weapon integrity separate.

[spare breach]

it's not separate because sharpness is capped by the condition

it will be separate once i can max out the sharpness aslong as i have enough sharpening tools to use

[broken marsh]

whats the best way to bring an item back up to max condition

[spare breach]

what they have right now comes off as very counter productive because the moment you don't immediately sharpen your blade after killing a few zombies, your condition will go downhill and now you are unable to fully restore your sharpness

[spark cosmos]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/03/critterz/

[spare breach]

thus losing your condition even faster

[regal spindle]

Depends on the item, anything wood can get a lot outta wood glue and duct tape

repair section of your craft menu, a lot of stuff doesn't show on right click context menus right now

[silk nova]

thanks pal!

[broken marsh]

yeah I noticed that.. makes it more complicated now

[spare breach]

do we still think the right click context menus are good enough or should those get a rework aswell

maybe a mini crafting UI section of the new one

[regal spindle]

I think the craft menu just needs more filters on it

like I know there's a sandbox option for this but there should also be an ingame option to toggle away all the recipes you don't have

it can be wierdly hard to navigate through what you can actually do in there

let me just scroll past all these recipes I don't have, and these recipes I don't have the skills for

[flat phoenix]

I’m glad the right click menu is gone, it was god awful clutter

[spare breach]

its still there

[scenic gazelle]

except with cooking

[spare breach]

we have a new crafting menu but you still can right click stuff to do a lot of different things

for example cooking still makes big use of it

[scenic gazelle]

cooking still pretty confusing sometimes
like when you have a bunch of ingredients for a stew/soup

[flat phoenix]

I should’ve clarified, for building

[tulip cedar]

guys

I want multiplayer

[flat phoenix]

Who doesn’t lmao

[spare breach]

im sure everyone does

[tulip cedar]

Do we know anything?

[flat phoenix]

No

[spare breach]

no. when its ready its ready

[tulip cedar]

Why is it not ready yet

[hallow adder]

Pick up stones, gather tools, make barricades, and chop trees to get Maintenance lvl 1, then start crafting things.

[hallow adder]

Devs just released the build to unstable branch 1 week ago for feedback. They need time to iron out and balance the game until it is ready for multiplayer.

[broken marsh]

best way ive found is load up on tape and files to sharpen and repair everything in sight. 1.5 levels per repair from what ive seen

day one im 35% of the way there to maint 1

[hallow adder]

Repairing contributes to maintenance?

I thought you just need to keep whacking the stones at a tree.

That is the current new "push door for maintenance XPs" meta exploit.

[forest shore]

Blade weapons is probably a better method.

Crude whetstone is literally two rocks, and you can sharpen any blades.

[blazing coral]

a little. fixed a can reinforced handle with woodglue and got a few points on maintenance

[broken marsh]

yeah but you need maint 1

[forest shore]

Oh oops.

[broken marsh]

it does, quite a bit. from what ive found its the best way to get lvl 1

[forest shore]

I want to say there's maintenance books now too? Possibly wrong. Not positive.

[broken marsh]

i looked in debug menu, theres not

[hallow adder]

Yeah, game is forcing players to first start by foraging and surviving by collecting stuffs before heli event, then farm, and then loot.

And then you can finally craft.

[reef pecan]

So I’ve learned it is genuinely impossible to progress in blacksmithing only using tools you can make since proper tongs require a heading tool and a heading tool requires proper tongs or vice grips

[austere pewter]

Nice

I've been trying to get a military backpack. Or at least a large bag

all attempts failed so far 😔. Speaking of large bags did they lower the chance of highway survivor zombies?

Usually i'd snag a large bag on day 3 by finding those little hordes on the side of the road

[spare breach]

yeah its not good rn

though i found like 4 metal tongs already so im fine

but relying only on the environment isnt fully viable atm

[humble sail]

Are livestock animals okay to drink tainted water from rivers and such?

[regal spindle]

not sure if they'll do that on their own without a trough

[spare breach]

fucking stupid rabbits, because of them my van's hood is ruined

now i will be constantly worrying about my car because my engine is at 39%

[regal spindle]

for how not amazingly useful armour is, they sure seem determined to make it dogshit, forearm armour? can't wear your watch, shoulder armour? backpack can't be worn

[broken marsh]

i think I saw a video of someone taking attacts from 2 zombies for 1 minute straight with metal armor

[spare breach]

seems the worse my tires become, the less weight my car can carry too

[broken marsh]

I mean, if your planning on taking on a hoard all you need is a weapon nothing else

[regal spindle]

This shit isn't even covering where the strap would go

[regal spindle]

that he spawned in cos the journey to making metal armour is a ridonkulous one currently

[scenic gazelle]

in my experience it's the same as B41
I've been lucky so far

[visual trail]

if the feeding recipient is empty it will fill with rain water which doesn't appear tainted in them

[austere pewter]

Haven't seen any like i used to

[austere pewter]

I mean i just found it on a zed

[regal spindle]

I'd almost agree with it if the more advanced articulated armour didn't have it but no, every single shoulderpad in the game cannot be worn with a backpack

it is never worth giving up your backpack, especially if your wearing heavy metal armour that eats up half your base carryweight by itself

and it also just physically makes no goddamn sense, a backpack is an item that is strapped to you, it is not impossible to strap it on over armour

[silk nova]

is the long stick craft missing?

[spare breach]

elaborate

i can create a long stick by trimming a sapling for example

[gleaming perch]

Your mean to forage it right? its just very rare

I reckon Indie Stone will buff the rare of long sticks spawning because all most people have found are broken long sticks

[gleaming perch]

where do you get saplings from btw

idk how to get those

[edgy blade]

So if eggs and milk are renewable now.....
Are there fruit trees?

[gleaming perch]

Yeah

[edgy blade]

W h a t omg

If only I could survive more than 3 days and actually go somewhere I want!!! this game would be peak rn

[gleaming perch]

Ngl idk lol but i wouldnt be against it

[spare breach]

probably from cutting trees or foraging, but really rare. Ive only found a sapling by looting one of these wood log storage things

[silk nova]

i was looking to craft a stick fence and i need 6 long sticks per part and i was looking for the craft but i didnt found it so i can craft them or i have to foraging them?

[gleaming perch]

I think right now the only way to get it is theough Carving them from saplings

i spent a few hours foraging and never found an actual long sticks, i got lucky and found cudgels and broken long sticks and whatnot, but NEVER long sticks

[spare breach]

you mainly have to find them or trim saplings

i found a bunch of long sticks when foraging in a forest

[gleaming perch]

no way

aNd they werent broken?

[silk nova]

ok, thank u guys

[spare breach]

i do not think they are ever broken

all the long sticks i foraged were not broken

[gleaming perch]

my life has been a lie…

Maybe I need to load in a newly uodated save because my unstable b42 world has been the same one for a week now

I reckon it’ll be fixed by then

[silk nova]

and the sapling where i founf d them? chooping trees?

[spare breach]

i just told you

[visual trail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/LQAFLcXCAP LMAO

what a mod !

[humble sail]

Thank you, does food and water drain fast? i have 4 cows

[visual trail]

depends on stat decrease setting in sandbox > livestock

mine are all set on normal

[topaz sorrel]

anyone having black squares popup when driving around? everything else seems fine

[ornate laurel]

so put feeding troughs outside if at all possible

got it

[silk nova]

sorry still idu, u told me foraging or trim saplings but first i have to find saplings and the saplings? i have to forage them?

[humble sail]

tyy

[visual trail]

build them outside with carpentry or welding

[spare breach]

actually wait

[visual trail]

but the large ones, they have higher capacity

[spare breach]

you misunderstood, if you want saplings, ive only ever found them in log containers so far

[visual trail]

chop trees

[spare breach]

i am ASSUMING that you can forage them, but i haven't had any luck yet

[spare breach]

got no saplings from that so far either but its worth a try

[ornate laurel]

also some pre-apocalypse items like Brooms can be made into spears

[silk nova]

ok this is somenthing to tell to them cause if i need long stick for making a fence and the only way to make it it's to loot kinda difficult containers it's very unbalanced

[visual trail]

try it the hatchet won't lose any condition it's bugged atm

[humble sail]

Do opposite sexed cows need to be the same breed to create a calf or can a holstein cow breed with an angus bull

for example

[frozen wyvern]

It does seem silly how you cant craft spears or long sticks from planks, only saplings

[visual trail]

full blown genetics are here

[spare breach]

no, long sticks are forageable

[ornate laurel]

is inbreeding also a thing?

[visual trail]

so if you cross-breed the resulting offsprings won't be of pure breed so they won't offer the same amount of products

you can pure breed / cross breed

[spare breach]

you can get long sticks via trimming a sapling but saplings are generally uncommon so its not a stable way to get the sticks

[visual trail]

cut mops brooms rakes

[humble sail]

ooh okay so a cross breed may produce more or less than their pure breed counterparts

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah the sapling restriction is weird

[visual trail]

less

[silk nova]

mmm ok thanks for the help, but still they should balance this

[spare breach]

its not that unbalanced

besides, if your foraging is at 0-1 then i wouldnt be surprised youre struggling a bit

[visual trail]

a broom, mop, rake can be carved into a long stick

[humble sail]

Okay, many thanks, last question sorry, can i have a angus bull and a holstein bull (for example) in the same area because of breed difference or is it species as a whole

[ornate laurel]

if anything it's now actually balanced

[spare breach]

mine's at 4 now so i dont have that much of a problem finding stuff

[visual trail]

yes

[humble sail]

Thanks again 🙂

[spare breach]

although i do not know whether foraging loot "regenerates" over time in areas i've already been to

[visual trail]

never put males from the same species together

[humble sail]

Ill just stick to one breed as a whole then, not worth the risk, thank you

[frozen wyvern]

Does that apply to chickens?

[visual trail]

it doesn't, all the items are there but you won't see them until foraging is high enough

[silk nova]

yeah but if i need this to built a fence and i need 6 it's kinda veeeery long, they should change the fence and use branches instead

[visual trail]

every animal

[humble sail]

Yee

[frozen wyvern]

Because if so there is an impending bloodbath once all my chickens grow up

[humble sail]

You gotta keep it 1 male a hutch

[frozen wyvern]

Hmm. Is the best solution to just have 1 male then?

[humble sail]

and in seperate pens id imagine

[visual trail]

yes or 2 but not from the same species

[regal spindle]

a sheep gave me lacerations all over my legs once, it was novel

[frozen wyvern]

I see

[spare breach]

makes things a tad difficult dont you think
eventually theres wont be many areas to forage in, unless i walk to the edge of the map