Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[glacial cape]

Extra protein

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-chew-chewing-yum-funny-gif-469299431371706890

[glacial cape]

Oh yeah my chickens exploded earlier lol and I found some interesting things out whilst slaughtering them all

[keen gorge]

Maturing is bugged rn. It seems to affect all animals

[glacial cape]

.

Sometimes the animal might also bug out when killing it so it's body stays on the ground but you can still hit it to gain weapon xp which is brutally brilliant lmao

[glacial cape]

Yeah that's probably why my chickens exploded and I had to cull them

I was thinking of just leaving them to fend for themselves survival of the fittest style lol but I wanted my egg supply

Butter & eggs is what my diet consists off in build 42 guess it's better than cabbages & fish

[keen gorge]

I finally found the full resolution map

It's under steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\maps\Muldraugh, KY\worldmap

Should be a good reference point while map project's not updated yet

[glacial cape]

Oh nice, that's gonna be my next location to loot

[tawny orbit]

im so lighter than you

i got 60 kg

imagine i got 10 kg

[sturdy wren]

y would u pick burger anyway

unless sneaking stat is peak now

[glacial cape]

Nimble & easy hotwiring

[regal spindle]

huh? can you not stack crates anymore?

[glacial cape]

Nimble is pretty op, but I think it's slower to level

[regal spindle]

oh no wait it's just a little futzy about the positioning

no wait it doens't work, hm

oh so you can but you have to build them and then use furniture move to stack them, you can't build them right on top of another box, odd

[glacial cape]

Oh, so thats how it's done yeah I was having issues stacking my crates earlier that I just gave up on it

[scenic gazelle]

can confirm sneaking is peak
Been sneaking in and outta town frequently avoiding hordes upon hordes and leaving with good loot

[sturdy wren]

just get that one perk that costs like 2 points

and hotwiring is still free if you get mechanic

just like read a book and disassemble a whole bunch of watches

on a second thought now that zombies are harder to kill in hordes

[glad pawn]

Would be cool if dissecting frogs taught you first aid

[glacial cape]

Oh gymnast is 2 now?

[sturdy wren]

idr

[glacial cape]

Early game though, although burglar isn't that great for long term tbh but at least you don't have to level electrical and you'll have tons of cars

[sturdy wren]

you can get electrical 1 in like a couple days no?

or was it mechanical 1 electrical 2

[glacial cape]

Thinks so, yeah but electrical is still slow to level

[scenic gazelle]

LMAO
you can eat grass now

[glacial cape]

Free food!

[severe egret]

When touching it just aint enough

[severe egret]

That kinda makes sense i guess.. though if this tries to be any more realistic we're gonna need a fucking forklift or something

[past spear]

no happiness malus

[glacial cape]

We can touch grass in pz now 10/10

[regal spindle]

man why is charcoal and wood charcoal two seperate items, that some things only accept one of

and I don't see a way for me to make regular charcoal

[scenic gazelle]

I think the naming is wrong, one is probably mineral coal and the other is charcoal
idk

[visual trail]

I find it absurd that a charcoal pit requires a spade and the shovel is not listed as an alternative

[glacial cape]

Yeah I've noticed that some recipes in the build menu accept alternatives whilst others don't?

[gaunt zodiac]

Tnx! Still couldn't find till now though..

But anyways, why can't I seem to cook rice or pasta or anything related with the cooking pot?

[glacial cape]

Check the crafting ui, or the recipe might need sufficient lighting/table or both

[gaunt zodiac]

Oh we need a table to cook to?

[glacial cape]

Most recipes you can't do in the dark or without a surface including cooking

[glacial cape]

Most likely I had to use a surface & light to put eggs inside of an carton so I'd imagine it's the same

[gaunt zodiac]

Oh okay, probably should do that because character keeps drinking even if auto drink is off. Pot is always at 1499/1500 and it prevents me from cooking because of that one tinie droplet..

[glacial cape]

I've noticed that 1499/1500 thing with whilst boiling tainted water is your water tainted?

[gaunt zodiac]

Nope. But I did boil it from rain water prior.

[forest shore]

The not quite full pots and such I think may be a rounding issue, not an auto drink issue.

Easy fix is transfer the water out then back in.

[gaunt zodiac]

Did that, it's 1500/1500 now but the crafting UI tells me the water in the pot is still lacking somehow

Okay it was tainted, abit of it was I think. It didn't show me how much of it was tainted except when I hovered on the drink option :< was so confused

[glacial cape]

Yeah seems like boiling takes a bit longer

[frozen wyvern]

You cant actually eat it tho i think its just for animals lol

[humble sail]

Is it possible to dismantle the railings on the naturally spawned bridges/paths that lead over water? im trying to expand the bridge bt 1 so i can fit a car and trailer through it

I can fit it currently but theres some kind of invisible barrier about halway through the bridge

[hollow mica]

guys how can I milk a cow? do I need certain items or something, I have 3 cows in an animal zone with food and water but I can't get milk

[humble sail]

They need to have had a baby

[glacial cape]

Might need a sledge

[humble sail]

You also need a container to hold fluid

[hollow mica]

oh... dang it

I'll probably be long dead by the time that happens

[humble sail]

It didnt give me any options for dismantling (I dont have a sledge just yet)

I think the pregnancy time rn is fairly quick

[echo aurora]

does it fill the container or... give full cartons of milk

[humble sail]

I would imagine it fills the container

[keen gorge]

Container

[echo aurora]

i hope that

[humble sail]

If i do find a sledge im just hoping im able to get the destroy option

Not found a gen mag yet either which i need to do first, not much use having animals if you cant refridgerate or freeze their products

[echo aurora]

I think I heard that you just need lvl 3 electrical to be able to use generators

[keen gorge]

No that's the alternative

So there's two ways for you to learn how to operate generators. 1st is the magazine. 2nd is grinding electrical to level 3

[humble sail]

oh

Im probably better of doing that... any tips?

[keen gorge]

Disassemble TVs. They seem to have buffed it

[humble sail]

Tvs gotcha

[keen gorge]

I could swear they only gave like 2 XP at B41 and now they give like 5

[humble sail]

Shweet

Is it still good to do digital watches too? then again im day 5 and still no digital watch...

[keen gorge]

As long as you have a skillbook yeah

[humble sail]

I think i might idk

[shell crystal]

Merry Christmas, Build 42 fans! 🎄 check out my Christmas gift 🎁

[glacial cape]

That's awesome! I want one lol

[glacial cape]

Cooked Eggs last a while and you can make butter from goats & cows

[keen gorge]

Yeah milk is disgustingly OP

[neat saffron]

Pro tip:

Shoot your bigger cattle to kill it.

Oh my God so many characters that died from bare knuckle boxing a sheep

[forest shore]

That's cool as hell

Well poo.

[summer hull]

they should make lactose intolerance a negative trait, drinking milk or derivates leaves you queasy and anxious

[keen gorge]

If it doesn't kill you, I'm taking it and will just say its free points

[neat saffron]

Neolithic Man 10.000 BCE:

[summer hull]

eh, probably a single point

[vague trench]

Thats awesome haha

[scenic gazelle]

Let me check

[vague trench]

Merry spiffomus

[opaque schooner]

That’s sick

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, you can't actually eat grass

[keen gorge]

Mod it in

I want to roleplay as a cow

[vague trench]

Lol one of the first things i tried, would be so op

[vague trench]

Call me ms.milkers

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cow-gif-17428338243821361151

[glacial cape]

Merry Christmas!

[glacial cape]

Damn

[vague trench]

[lethal wolf]

Battle for Deerhead Lake 2 about to begin, now I got relatively close to previous run level shenanigans, and found 2 pigs

[jade haven]

It could just be referring to the pump that the sign is next to.

Try the others.

[forest shore]

I'll try later after present openings.

[glacial cape]

I've noticed some pumps are empty whilst others aren't

Maybe try a different side as well?

[gaunt zodiac]

When is mating season for pigs? I'm trying to get them to breed and stuff

[glacial cape]

I think August & September my pigs got pregnant around September

[scenic gazelle]

Literally unplayable, amiright?

[scenic gazelle]

Nice.
best of luck to ya
i am preparing myself to resume my dungeon crawling now that I have a good light source

[lethal wolf]

sadly only found 2 propane lanterns but havent been in the ranger base yet

[scenic gazelle]

It's over...

[blazing coral]

o7

[steep phoenix]

I opened Google Chrome and the name of the game was already printed on my monitor. Because of the strong white color of the game name, is there any way to reduce the brightness of those letters?

[lament crow]

so guys raiding my local riverside bookstore was a bust, im thinking of going to some of the new towns north, what is yours experience with it, and does it have any bookstores/good armories?

[scenic gazelle]

It was a good run...

[scenic gazelle]

try Fallas Lake
it has a bookstore and police station
the PD armoury door is not as sturdy as others Police stations
most of times its unlocked also

Fallas lake is right under riverside btw

[lament crow]

how far down?

[scenic gazelle]

make it top-down, please

I can point it out better for you

[glacial cape]

F

[steep phoenix]

I've been playing for a whole month and can't find the construction books and generator magazine in 12 months later mode....everything is looted

[scenic gazelle]

Here

[lament crow]

sorry mb, i was playing with a 3d graphic on my other save, dunno how i got it would like it back

[glacial cape]

Firetrucks seemed to spawn them more often, however I just went with the option of grinding to level 3 electrical because I was having problems hunting for a generator magazine

[scenic gazelle]

there

[lament crow]

perfect thank you, once i clear the mail office in riverside and the boat club i might plan a trip there

does this town still have a fair amount of zombies or is it relatively quiet?

[austere pewter]

my longest run was 14 days

died at the mil checkpoint 😭

[raw parcel]

why cant i chop ingredients ON THE GROUND

[glacial cape]

In build 42?

[raw parcel]

the earth is a giant surface

[keen gorge]

Because the earth is an oblique spheroid

[raw parcel]

not on the smaller scales

[glacial cape]

Cooking ingredients or crafting ?

[raw parcel]

the earth is essentially flat on a local scale

[raw parcel]

everything tbh, this limitation is annoying

but yes mostly cooking

[glacial cape]

I get cooking ingredients because no one wants to cook with dirty ingredients but yeah we should 100% be able to craft on the floor

[raw parcel]

ive cut up many things in my hand

idk man it feels like the devs asked chatgpt about human abilities

[keen gorge]

I dunno I probably won't like to cut my vegetables on the ground that has dust and blood and shit

[glacial cape]

Yeah

[soft viper]

Does anyone know how to turn on basement lights with a generator?

[scenic gazelle]

had a big amount, but i only visited 1 month later

zomboids spawn over time, get spread out, migrate

[scenic gazelle]

I was planning to get there, but a sudden zomboid lunge ended my plans...

[hollow mica]

how do you start a fire as a nomad without lighters or matches?

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-jambling-gamblecore-burning-in-hellfire-screaming-gif-17846281577290593447

[lament crow]

not if you have zombo respawns off 🙂

[lament crow]

Drill plank 👍

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, but I was playing on apocalypse mode saliva infection only

[hollow mica]

I didn't realize, is that all I need?

[lament crow]

Well heres the thing, you cant make like a primitive bowstring for the same reason (which is stupid) if you truly want to do a wilds playthrough

firstly you need a plank, then you need an item to craft said drilled plank (then ez part) you just need tree branches or a long stick i believe? which should be fairly common in nature

Just know that drill planking a fire takes energy, and sometimes your branches can break (get deleted) so make sure you got a coulpe and your char has an ok level of energy to complete the action

[hollow mica]

aww man hope they fix that, I hate how many primitive objects require maintenance 1 to do so we're forced to take maintenence perks for a nomad playthrough

[lament crow]

you can make a drilled plank straight from the getgo, thats the thing tho you need a plank and a sharp object to craft said drill plank

Again, if you were doing a fully wild/nomad playthrough you can actually make a crude saw, you gotta FORGE IT, which by the 42 crafting standards can only be made after you get a forge (i think) so you'd need to get like levels into smithing anyways

[blazing coral]

we don't have any portable stoves besides the backyard grills right?

[lament crow]

yessur no mini camper stoves yet 😦

[hollow mica]

got it, thank you

[lament crow]

yup so its fairly shrimple recipie just not so straightforward

[blazing coral]

just noticed seed packets have the growing season printed on them 😮

[lament crow]

lol forgor that was a thing now, what happens when you plant seeds not in their period do you just not see them grow at all, or is it just much slower than normal?

[severe prawn]

...cooked

[severe prawn]

gorgeus

[cunning turtle]

Magnificent and beautiful

[scenic gazelle]

Guys I am making a custom scenario using debug menu
Gonna start as a soldier in Louisville after a week of the knox event, I am gonna break an arm of my character to make things interesting, also gonna start on top of a skyscrapper hehe
but I am not sure which profession to pick for this soldier
the premise is basically CDDA "Missed" scenario

Whether due to stubbornness, ignorance, or just plain bad luck, you missed the evacuation and are stuck in a city full of the risen dead

please any help
i thought about using veteran as a basis

[lament crow]

sounds fun are you asking about ideas or do you need techincal help?

[scenic gazelle]

Ideas, I have all the debug options ready

[glacial cape]

Veteran seems like the most likely option but if it's a week after that isn't long enough to be considered vet status so, maybe a modded occupation or custom would work better

[scenic gazelle]

yeah
what about the gear?
what a rifleman would be carrying in '93?
M16 or M14?

[glacial cape]

Either or, although maybe if it's a skyscraper thing some form of semi auto or long range bolt rifle would work

[civic drum]

Yeah, they mentioned to me that seeds can die in the ground before even sprouting from disease and there's no way to know until high enough farming level.

And some other stuff too, but what was the question specifically?

[spare breach]

a lot of balance tweak patches are incoming im sure LOL

probably after all the holiday stuff is gone though

[blazing coral]

is welding torch refill bugged?

[spare breach]

yes, i've heard someone else talking about that already

[blazing coral]

apparently, not completely. you can't refill empty torches but you can if there is some left

[spare breach]

weird lol

[glacial cape]

Oh nothing just me @keen gorge & @visual trail were having a conversation about crops earlier and them being really finicky with their growing think only one of us managed to have crops live long enough to actually grow

[spare breach]

what are propane bottles for by the way, do they work the same as propane tanks?

i have like 6 of those bottles, but no tanks

[glacial cape]

Refilling storm lanterns

[spare breach]

Any more uses besides that?

[glacial cape]

Or the makeshift lantern you can make

No not that I've seen so far, I was hoping they could be used for the torches or something

[spare breach]

yeah

that sucks

[civic drum]

Well I certainly haven't had any luck with growth yet. I think I'm going to have to get to April to be sure, since that's when most crops can start growing.

[glacial cape]

So far it looks like leek is the best option to grow

[civic drum]

On the plus side, my garlic hasn't died after a couple of weeks.

[glacial cape]

If you wanna farm farming xp to view anymore details on crops

[civic drum]

Also, I have so many chickens, I'm going to be eating eggs forever.

[glacial cape]

Same

[civic drum]

I have been working on a list of crop seasons:

THat's all I have so far, in terms of collected seeds.

[glacial cape]

I had my chickens duplicate earlier they were good weapon xp

[civic drum]

Never had any of the chickenocalypse, just a normal amount of chickens that still produces 5-7 eggs day, which is still more than I'd eat.

[forest shore]

Is there a way to see this in game once we learn the growing seasons.

[civic drum]

Yes, you have to be holding the seeds, and have an empty furrow. Right click the furrow, go down to the sow seed, and it'll show you the growing months.

[glacial cape]

Info panel, recipes and skill books box under the agriculture tab

[civic drum]

Or that. That sounds easier.

[forest shore]

Makes it kind of hard to plan when to grow things.

[civic drum]

No, no, ignore me, do what Boutansha said.

[forest shore]

Sounds closer to what I hoped thank you kind human

[glacial cape]

Np

[humble sail]

This is a very stupid question, still new to this game, can i use the gas station before the power grid turns off??

[vague trench]

yah , unless it doesnt have any gas

[civic drum]

Yes!

[humble sail]

Oh wow, i dont know why this never occured to me....

I feel so stupid XD, guess its time to haul over my gas cans

[austere pewter]

Yeah

[glacial cape]

Oof yeah... LV is even more of a death trap in b42 I probably won't be returning to that location until multi-player because it's too densely populated to tackle at its current state if it'll be staying that way which kinda makes sense due to it being a city but still

[forest shore]

Why not

[soft viper]

I only have nothing but pity for you

Though iirc you'll start off with no snow anyway

[digital cloud]

santa is gonna blow you up

[forest shore]

Been a long time since I've done a december starty

But why not start on christmas

[umbral raven]

Does anyone know if there is a way (in debug / dev mode) to place dirt tiles? Seeing as placing via sandbags is currently broken and i need to get my farm set up ASAP...

[worn radish]

hey guys, i think i found a bug in build 42, anyone here to help or clarify me if its really a bug?

so, my headset died, and the logical conclusion to this is, create a new character with the "deaf" trait XDDD

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/so-slow-buffering-loading-steady-slow-moving-gif-14382934

even if you don’t play with audio which is already stupid deaf will make you not be able to see shit behind you therefore back shot central

[worn radish]

the character can "read" the captions on tv and gains skills just fine, the funny thing is that he loses boredom when next to radios, and also gains skill when not looking at the tv screen

[digital cloud]

he is connected via bluetooth

[worn radish]

i mean, my headsets died, so i will just enjoy a slight more powerfull character in the time i dont get a new one XDD

[digital cloud]

enjoy getting tickled from behind

[worn radish]

nah, with strength and endurance both 10, no zombie will get to me xdd

but still, do you know a channel to send this bug?

nvm, just found out

[worn radish]

#1321478350426083329 message

[umbral raven]

Has anyone figured out how to dig furrows in placed dirt to start farming? Feel like it's changed and isn't letting me like it used to

[keen gorge]

Just right click

Or long press E when you have a hoe or garden fork on hand

Dirt tiles you placed yourself don't work anymore I believe

At least, the default sandbox option sets it that way

[cunning turtle]

[hallow adder]

When multiplayer becomes available in Build 42, the one thing people will start to immerse themselves in is the fact every player will have their own unique ID of their character.

It may be possible that someone may be a family member of their characters or a distant relative of each other.

Oh god.... Killing each other's family when they become a family is going to be so much heartbreaking and lots of grief....

[cunning turtle]

[lethal wolf]

Anyone had a weird incident with cars. I towed a trailer few meters ahead, on a dirt road. Then suddenly zeds from every goddamn direction converged on me, from very far away, as if I honked the horn when I...did not. Almost ended run #2 right there... 😄

[gleaming perch]

Randomness of their hearing + louder car due to a shitty muffler and more horsepower being used

thats probably what occurred

[lethal wolf]

My car condition was 80%, pretty mint on every part except maybe a tire. Hearing is set to normal via sandbox mode.

[gleaming perch]

Maybe they were in the forest for something previously then

[lethal wolf]

But I could imagine a heavy trailer with dirt road that even a SUV has problems dealing with

I assure you I was there at the location for quite a while, nothing happened, no meta event, nothing, just me moving my car and trailer few meters lol

Park ranger expertise saved me, leading the horde through the woods to lose them, to be cleared later when I play next time...

[steep pebble]

Is it just me or is the first level of carving horrible to grind

you just have to forage for branches/saplings in order to carve spears and stakes

[umbral raven]

i dont know what he's doing, but its making him happy

[lethal wolf]

It has been said carving sucks at no skill, I started with 3 myself just because

I did not even know making spears is carving now, not carpentry

[forest shore]

It looks like no ones made a wilderness spawn which kinda sucks

[steep pebble]

they should add a way to carve something to grind the first level using planks/logs

[lethal wolf]

They should definitely allow us to get bone material from the zeds, too...having to hunt deer without proper equipment just to get bone seems...off

[steep pebble]

btw you cant grind carpentry dissasembling furniture anymore

its just building stuff

[regal spindle]

I will be using the new firearm system to te- wait whats that? ATRO updated? INTO THE TRASDH

[steep pebble]

I found out the hardway after reading a carpentry book, clearing half a day towards Smokeys bar and dissasembling half the place

[regal spindle]

They really had been upfront about disassembling and you would even see the option for re-enabling it if you went through sandbox settings

[glad steeple]

is multiplayer working??

[keen gorge]

No

[gleaming perch]

i think its a good feature

[keen gorge]

You can play split screen though

[glad steeple]

is there any information when multiplayer will be out?

[steep pebble]

bit dubious at start since youre stuck crafting furniture which u dont really need or walls if you have a base

[gleaming perch]

You get triple the amount of XP from B41 when you craft carpentry items now

[scenic gazelle]

me too
but you can still gain exp through log sawing and repairing wooden stuff

[steep pebble]

thats good

[scenic gazelle]

plus VHS also helps a lot

[gleaming perch]

yeah true

[steep pebble]

Yeah im just trying to craft a rain collector and im at lvl 2 from the carpentry show

[gleaming perch]

they made this change to stop people in MP from dismantling cities in servers so noone can level up carpentry

[steep pebble]

makes sense

[gleaming perch]

Cuz you can join a server like Harvest PvE and you cant do shit because every furniture items dismantled and you cant level it up

[keen gorge]

None

[steep phoenix]

WTF

[edgy blade]

Anybody else hate muscle strain?

[steep pebble]

i turned it to 0.5 and its manageable

[keen gorge]

Realistically I don't think MP will be out till at least the 2nd half of 2025

[steep pebble]

b42 really changed the meta, you cant go and clear 200 zombies in a day

[keen gorge]

Too many bugs and stuff to fix

[gleaming perch]

Yeah agreed

[steep pebble]

sneaking is needed and you have to make most of the few houses/buildings you can access in a day

[gleaming perch]

Lots of cleaning up and features still have to be added so I dont doubt that

[edgy blade]

yeah but there's nothing to do now

[steep pebble]

im currently set up at the farmhouse above muldraugh and its fun to manage the base and the small looting sessions

[thick laurel]

Project muscle strain

[edgy blade]

Like, fresh start, new world: Best time to go loot some stories for fresh food, for example. I'm getting really bad muscle strain after just killing 5-7 zombies, but over 400 crowd around popular store areas

[steep pebble]

those are hot spots, good loot which needs a different aproach

[edgy blade]

That loot is only there for 2-3 in-game days

[steep pebble]

you can always drag zombies or attract them away

[gleaming perch]

Are you picking underweight traits or something

[steep pebble]

overweight lovers rejoice

[thick laurel]

Really getting you into investing in those pipe bomb and molotov

[edgy blade]

Usually I just randomize stuff, so I've had a few different builds. Yes and no

[gleaming perch]

You only start getting muscle strain base game with 5 strength after like 20 kills

[blazing coral]

use weapons you are more skilled at. If you are also weak, then...

[steep pebble]

plus you can still clear with muscle strain

[edgy blade]

that's still really bad because of the sheer amount of zombies in the game

[gleaming perch]

Then again you’re not meant to go around killing everything day one

[steep pebble]

you dont 1 shot anymore, feels like fighting

[keen gorge]

Sir its Project Zomboid, not Project Human. It was never a power fantasy about killing zombies

[edgy blade]

I was never one of those "make a build that 1-shots zombies day one" type of people. Now if you don't have a build like that it seems just unbearably slow

[gleaming perch]

the whole reason they added muscle strain was to make the game realistic and not make you go around clearing cities in a matter of a week

Tbh not really

[steep pebble]

you can easily get to over 100 zombie kills in a week too

which if you think about it, its a lot

[blazing coral]

Herding the zombies from where you want to loot also helps a lot

[edgy blade]

I'm thinking of other games that added so much realism that it became bad. Like The Isle. Heard of it?

We gotta rememeber it's still a game to some extent

[steep pebble]

plus the random zombie memory and sight really helps to easily get away

[keen gorge]

You can still reach 100 per day so long as you switch around so your strain is spread out between your arms and legs

[edgy blade]

I been finding it way harder

[steep pebble]

it feels more like a zombie horde than just a moving blob of corpses

[edgy blade]

Idk how that works? I instantly get strain on legs and arms even if I wasn't using legs, etc

[steep pebble]

you strain your legs by jumping over fences and stomping

[edgy blade]

Walking counts toward it, I guess?

[keen gorge]

If your arms get tired it's time to start stomping

[edgy blade]

I haven't jumped any fences or stomped, so that's not the issue, no

[steep pebble]

always stomp if you can, saves the hand muscle strain

[gleaming perch]

Walking does not count toward strain

[edgy blade]

I was at the start, but I just ran into strain again just as fast. And it's all over. It's not only giving me leg strain for some reason

Just a weird janky system idk
gtg

[steep pebble]

did you workout the night before

[edgy blade]

no i just started the game

fresh d1
Who works out on d1

[gleaming perch]

Me

[blazing coral]

Too much weight I think causes strain on legs and torso

[edgy blade]

I wasn't carrying any over weight
Was mostly just exploring the new map and walking around

[steep pebble]

i started with 2 endurance

by the way, does anybody know if the 'stinky' moodlet does anything

its caused by zombie corpses

[gleaming perch]

unhappiness faster + chance to get corpse sickness

[lethal wolf]

indicates how close you are to corpse sickness chance

[steep pebble]

makes sense, do gas masks and such help against it"

[gleaming perch]

yes

they make you uncomfortable though LOL

[spare breach]

okay guys so funny thing, i posted this on the forum and what seems to be a decent workaround is to reset the animals by deleting the "apop" folder, this fixed my issue but all the chickens i have been caring for are now dead. lol

atleast i can continue playing

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-imagination-rainbow-happy-gif-4596954

[steep pebble]

i love the new update so far, really makes you struggle more and make do with little

[gleaming perch]

why would you deleate a folder in your current save lol

[gleaming perch]

agreed, i actually got excited finding a fire axe

[spare breach]

the funny tech support team person told me to

[steep pebble]

i feel like the crafting UI could do with a 'what you can craft with this' tab

[gleaming perch]

they have that

[spare breach]

its the specific save i had an issue with

[gleaming perch]

you have to click the arrow thing next to the search bar and change it to “Required Item”

[spare breach]

it is a murder scene

i wonder if i can spawn in the animals via debug

[forest shore]

Probably this

[forest shore]

You can.

[keen gorge]

Mmm chickenpocalyse

Or are those pigs

[forest shore]

...I might do that for this save. I liked this run. But the pigs ruined it

[frozen wyvern]

You need more pigs

[keen gorge]

That's why you should always murder the infants

[spare breach]

no.

i had only like 7 chickens total, one of them was a male , and one was young

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[frozen wyvern]

These are the kind of messages that embody this community

[spare breach]

it just wasnt working properly ig

[keen gorge]

Something about maturity is bugged

[civic drum]

All I see is a mountain of bacon.

[real fox]

nerdy question but anyone play PZ on linux 🤔

not steam deck but just linux systems , i dual boot and might try out PZ on linux to test for bugs specific to linux if there even is any

[forest shore]

Steam Deck is Linux - it all runs through the same compatability layer which is Proton.

I've played previous versions on a few different distros though, Ubuntu mainly.

[real fox]

well yeee it uses arch linux, but mostly since you cant use deck controls on 42 rn sorry im stupid i shouldve elaborated that ahaha

[forest shore]

I play keyboard and mouse mainly :p

[real fox]

mostly was asking other desktop specific usages, these days i have 0 issues with gaming on linux but who knows sometimes i do find small bugs

[frozen wyvern]

Im playing PZ on Linux Mint and it works great!

[real fox]

like with skyrim weirdly a mod didnt work on linux and i reported it and it was just something in the mod that caused skyrim to shit itself lol

[frozen wyvern]

But yeah, controller support doesnt work for 42 atm so Steam Deck isnt really usable

[keen gorge]

As far as I know there's no problems with Linux

[real fox]

hell yeah

[frozen wyvern]

You can pull up the old crafting menu with a controller lol

[keen gorge]

Steam Deck has issues but that's mostly because of controller support, not Linux

[real fox]

yeeee

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah PZ in 41 with a controller works suprisingly great, aside from movement feeling jankier

[forest shore]

You could use the steamdeck I'm sure. You would have to just use it in the way it emulates mouse and keyboard, it's how it works for a lot of games that don't support gamepads.

But that would definitely be a bit clunky

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah but id rather wait for official support in all honesty

B42 launches and performs well on the deck but you just cant control it

[vague trench]

LOL

[gaunt zodiac]

What else changed with farming? I'm only aware of seasonal crops, my garlic has stayed in seedling state for the entire month of August even though that's it's growing month iirc, it's September 1 now and it's still at seedling state.. 240 is it's growing rate I think? How long is 240 growth rate even?

[keen gorge]

240 days

[gaunt zodiac]

N A H didn't think it were actual days-

[visual trail]

Yeah seems to be the thing, when agriculture above 4, you get more info

[visual trail]

there is a spreadsheet on Reddit

[keen gorge]

Farming has changed

It's slower and it definitely doesn't give as much anymore

[visual trail]

they are

earliest crops can be harvested in 60 days

[gaunt zodiac]

How many days does adding fertilizer take?

[keen gorge]

And I'm pretty sure it's bugged or that new feature on their random deaths is way overtuned since they all wind up dying anyway

[visual trail]

not all, from 5 seeds I managed to get 2-3 plants to full maturity

[keen gorge]

I haven't managed to grow anything. They all die in like 2-3 weeks

[visual trail]

but I kept my doubts about their succes

It's hard because they can get diseases at the seeding state and you won't know until you level up agriculture

[vague trench]

yah i planted some things in the season it said and it died , kept it water i dont get it lol

[keen gorge]

Seems like smoker got broken with that new corpse looting mechanic

[visual trail]

I'm gonna try to make a guide on farming but I need to test it more thoroughly

[keen gorge]

The minimum stress threshold from smoker plus the new mechanic where you get stressed from looting zombies means looting anything pushes your moodle to breaking point

[blazing coral]

I wonder if they implemented quitting smoking

[visual trail]

yeah this is realistic, max 4 vegetables per plant I was able to harvest on normal sandbox setting

but I think with a higher level in agriculture, this will change

[blazing coral]

But now it gives so few points that I wouldn't find it worth to have it for a month even if I could get rid of the trait

[visual trail]

240 is the number of days required to reach maturity

[keen gorge]

Good thing Reddit is around to test things while I am at work

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/xJewLmuTWH

[visual trail]

agriculture with growing seasons is now more oriented to late game so if you can't survive more than 6 months you won't get to experience it to the fullest

[errant glen]

why is running over zomboids causing my vehicles fuel to increase??

[visual trail]

lmao is that fr ?

[real fox]

im fine with what they did to smoker point value, and the stress, but i think the spawn rate of smokes/tabaco is ridiculous and needs to be increased way more lmfao build 41 ciggies were EVERYWHERE, long term smoker seems blegh, it would be cool to "kick" the habbit after a month or two of not smoking.

esp it only being +2 points and not +4 anymore

[keen gorge]

Nah there seems to be an issue with smoker and stress overflows

[ember elbow]

the intention is likely that you will be able to grow your own tobacco and roll them yourselves long-term so it's unlikely they'll boost the rates back to b41 levels

[visual trail]

it's not the points atm or the tobacco it's how the trait functions at the code level

[real fox]

yeeee im fine with that want, but low key not finding ANY ciggies in big towns is what made me like fuck this not taking smoker haha

[real fox]

🤔 oh shit

[visual trail]

the coding behind the trait seems to tick stress levels too much for no apparent good reasons

[keen gorge]

It's most likely even worse if you have both fear of blood and smoker

[visual trail]

yeah don't go with smoker atm it's the take home message

[slim merlin]

I managed to procure 3 packs and I’m down to my last one

[left kindle]

guys what is this new "uncomfortable" Moodle?

[slim merlin]

You get it from wearing armor or sleeping in uncomfortable places

Idk what sort of negatives it does to your character

[left kindle]

and is there anywhere on this server where I can communicate with the devs?

asking questions, suggesting thigs, etc

[civic drum]

Have a link?

[keen gorge]

Sadness. Just sadness

[vague trench]

can you steam forums for suggestions otherwise can just put it in here

[humble sail]

I wish you could pause the game whilst having the map open 😦

[visual trail]

yes, always https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hkizjs/so_i_made_a_farming_spreadsheet/?rdt=50171

[humble sail]

Also, how do i 'tab out'? 😅

[visual trail]

you can map a hotkey for pause in the keybinding menu and press it while the map is open

[civic drum]

Oof, Spiffo wasn't lying about lengthy grow times.

[visual trail]

why should she ;))?

[humble sail]

Ooooh thank you

Ill have to dig around in settings

[vague trench]

its cool you can open the crafting menu n stuff like that lol

[civic drum]

So I guess crops still grow when it's snowed then. I wonder if snowing and snow cover counts as water.

[visual trail]

there is also a hotkey to drop items held in hands also the backpack in case you have to fight and you're over encumbered

[visual trail]

I found out by hand that if the temp drops outside below 0 the plants die at least the spring and summer plants did behave this way

[humble sail]

Quick question, when a radio tells you about a hellicopter, is it for that day or the following day?

[visual trail]

the current day

[civic drum]

Presumably the garlic will be covered since if its base grow time is 240 days, that is almost definitely going to be the whole winter if planted in the optimal month

[humble sail]

Thank you 🙂

[visual trail]

yeah I didn't reach that point as of now I started in March and it's July now so I'll get to see it later

[forest shore]

Yea they made crop growth realistic. You don't need crops to survive long term now though, if you have a few sheep or cows.

[keen gorge]

2 sheep or cows is like infinite butter

[forest shore]

Check your fuel tank - you're probably damaging your fuel tank. Damaged fuel tanks have reduced capacity, so it reads higher on the gauge.

[broken marsh]

how can I farm up maintenance level 1 in b42?

oops not in pz chat

[forest shore]

It really is. I think the butter production makes sense if you're a group and it does seem to be a reasonable amount I think? But still. Crazy rn.

[forest shore]

Use a metal bat or similar.

[keen gorge]

Crafted spears

[visual trail]

try pushing at a door it used to be an exploit

[keen gorge]

Any weapon that has a high chance of losing condition basically

[broken marsh]

not sure how to get one of those, ive looted like 20 buildings and got a ton of supplys but no way to craft anything because of my levels

[broken marsh]

cant find a tool to be able to cut down trees

[keen gorge]

Combat maintenance has been changed so that you gain more XP if your weapon loses condition

So I'd try weapons that break easily like knives and spears and such

[broken marsh]

gotcha, thanks. Just realized my trust crowbar thats killed 100 zeds is still at maximum durability/condition

[forest shore]

Thought it was the opposite

[keen gorge]

It was the opposite in B41

[finite tangle]

OMG SAME AXES ARE SO RARE NOW

I thought my luck was terrible atm

[broken marsh]

nope, I've gone through a ton of garages and basements without finding anything

[keen gorge]

Seems like they changed it for B42. I tested it using a crowbar and a crafted spear and the difference between the XP gain is like a factor of 10

[forest shore]

It seems using axes as an axe doesn't damage them though, so that's nice. Only when using them as a weapon

[forest shore]

Okay sweet, good to know. Spear time./

[keen gorge]

Like, per 1 point of maintenance I get using crafted spears, I'd only get 0.18 for crowbars on the same amount of use

[broken marsh]

a week of using only a crowbar]

[edgy blade]

Gimme a random base location

literally any house, anywhere, anyhow

[digital cloud]

ekron church

[clear vector]

chicken farm

[keen gorge]

New gas station at Echo Creek is good if you just want to focus on the new mechanics

[stiff finch]

likei just found 5 firefighter axes in rosewood

[finite tangle]

Yeah but Im trying out echo creek and its not the greatest there

Its a bit more barren on good supplys and getting to guns unlimited with what I have currently is not feasible

[keen gorge]

Echo Creek is a great location if you just want a quiet place to test out the new features/skills

[azure jacinth]

does flashlight attract zombies?

[keen gorge]

Yes and no?

Light doesn't seem to affect them but it makes you more visible so it indirectly attract zombies

[real fox]

For the love of god tho don’t go to guns unlimited

XD lmfao you will fricken die I tried clearing it only for world war z amount of zombies to spill out the doors

[keen gorge]

I just did the old classic of burning them and blocking my car doors as they cook

[edgy blade]

Do painkillers help with muscle strain

[heavy crown]

They reduce the pain involved, but otherwise no

[keen gorge]

Removes the pain yeah

[finite tangle]

How theres no molotovs

[keen gorge]

Campfire

[finite tangle]

How did you make it in time to clear them out

[keen gorge]

I mean, they're slow

[heavy crown]

There are zero things that increase the rate of muscle strain recovery.

Exercise does some weird janky stuff where it can seemingly pause recovery. This leads to Agony moodle pretty quickly when it happens, but eventually you recover.

[keen gorge]

Just take your time rallying them

[wet timber]

Real sad stuff is that both bunkers located near rosewood. One place with all of the dope underground locations there is and absolutely nothing for the rest of the map

[keen gorge]

March Ridge has one

And I'm pretty sure the procedural generation allows for some pretty big basements

[wet timber]

Yeah and march ridge is right across the street from rosewood

[upbeat leaf]

Anyone figured out how to mine boulder/flint from visible tiles? i have a pickaxe in hand but none of the named flint/boulder tiles show me an interaction

[keen gorge]

Keep in mind we haven't explored everywhere yet so we don't have the full list of static underground locations

[keen gorge]

Mining is not implemented yet

Like you can pick up small and large stones and other things but those big veins are not yet minable

[wet timber]

Oh, I hope there is some gems we ain't found yet

[upbeat leaf]

Thats what i was thinking. I’ve seen people say that you can (I dont doubt that we saw thursdoids mentioning it) but it doesnt look like its doable. I was really just looking for a quicker way to get flint nodules.

[wet timber]

And also...
Damn there is going to be gigantic new place in between prison and military lab

Something like a power plant

[real fox]

alcoholic negative trait when

[keen gorge]

Is there?

I'm pretty sure the caves below the lab are the lowest it goes

[wet timber]

All of that and also a huge-ass lake... They really packed all of juicy places around rosewood but the town itself feels so lame

[slim merlin]

[wet timber]

Not yet, but mark my words. I saw it in a dream

Just kidding

There's a map somewhere in Thursdoids that shows map making teams progress and it has a huge new facility right next to prison

And already exiting power lines are going in-between that place and Louisville

[edgy blade]

Things I have learned so far:
-Smoking is bad
-All weapons are effectively useless
-I can't go anywhere without getting tired
-Zombie grappling is actually worse than before because they can ignore your push animation now if they feel like it

[keen gorge]

I mean

[edgy blade]

Yes and that is my feedback

[severe egret]

The onset of negative moodles can feel a bit quick, but i think the best solution the devs could work in is to just make sure all level 1 negative moodles only act as a warning; they should give very minor or no negative effects

[edgy blade]

Just had a zombie grab me through my pushing animation twice in a row and i'm feelin pretty done

[edgy blade]

Yeah that would be nice, but I think the issue is they level up too quickly. They become actual problems way too fast

[severe egret]

Thats only cause minor level moodles mess you up more than they should though

[edgy blade]

I didn't really notice minor muscle strain much. That was ok. But once it levels to a worse degree it's so bad

[edgy blade]

Tried to use an axe, and just a couple swings my character was exahuseted and full strain. And they were max fitness and stuff too

[severe egret]

Yeah its fair in places and blown out in others. The first level of tired is way too impactful

[heavy crown]

Exertion and Fatigue moodles aren't really changed that much from B41, although resting got nerfed pretty hard in usability.
Stress straits (Smoker, Fear of Blood) are pretty bugged atm so there's a lot of finagling for them right now

Muscle strain is... something. If you know that a character should probably start with weapon skills, maintenance, and nimble you're probably fine. Characters that don't have those suck major ass.

[keen gorge]

Prisoners as test subjects subplot incoming

[edgy blade]

Yeah it's the rest that's the issue. Gotta sit down every 2 seconds

Imagine having to rest all the time in multiplayer and how annoying that'll be. People already hate reading cuz it takes forever

[heavy crown]

There's no indication when you are at full stamina. B41 had an indicator when you rested at a bench or whatnot.

[edgy blade]

I didn't even know that

I hope they tweak and balance things for B42 soon, cuz rn it's just not playable. I can't go anywhere, I can't do anything. I can't really play the game, and I don't think games that require specific meta builds are good

cuz i like varity in playthroughs

[heavy crown]

For fatigue, there's a lot of major imbalances:

• The fatigue gain doubles when you are at the first stamina/exertion moodle. People are going to spend more time near that moodle because they can't tell it's right.
• Temperature also doubles fatigue gain when you are at the first moodle. This is more of an ambient thing where if you know, you know.

[severe egret]

There's no indication for a shit load of things that our character should have a sense for. This is my biggest gripe with PZ this far

[edgy blade]

I actually liked how vague PZ was before, but with all these new little things that impact you so heavily, now we're kind of required to have things be less vague

[spare breach]

fellas, does anyone know where the wild west-y town is located on the map?

Im kinda in a need of either a stone or a mason's chisel for my blacksmithing endeavors

[edgy blade]

Can weapons be sharpened with a rock? That might actually help me if it's possible

[spare breach]

you can create a crude whetstone to sharpen bladed weapons with if you have maintenance 1 i think

2 stones are needed for that to be crafted

[edgy blade]

maintenance 1...... im gonna kms

[severe egret]

This is what im talkin about. Level 1 moodles should be warnings, with very little or no actual effects

[edgy blade]

takes me an hour just to get into the fire department because weapons are so useless and i gotta stomp every zed to death

[heavy crown]

IMO it's like an order of magnitude worse than in B41. In that, picking a weapon type and then locking into that playstyle was kind of a matter of preference.

In B42 it's really Construction Worker or bust on melee builds.

• You get +3 short blunt for almost no trait point investment. This is gigantic for muscle strain and early weapon starting
• Rocks are basically infinite and require no maintenance (skill or otherwise). Just get a new one once it breaks
• You can use a flashlight in your offhand. Long Blunt enjoyers are SOL once power shuts down and Axe enjoyers have to make hatchets.
• There are so many maintenance skills to choose from to get your starting point

[edgy blade]

only to die to a game bug. im gonna lose my mental

[edgy blade]

You use rocks as a weapon? LOL

[spare breach]

Coalfield?

[heavy crown]

Yeah, they're slightly weaker than Wrenches but you can just pick them up off the ground

[spare breach]

@wet timber ty i'll go for a visit and see if there's anything useful, hopefully the place isnt swarmed

[heavy crown]

Not even like a Foraging action, if you see any small rock tile you can pick up the rock

[edgy blade]

pz has fallen 😭
We return to MONKEY now

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mixfoxy-mixfoxylive-unga-unga-gif-18481549

[forest shore]

I can spoilt it ||There's absolutely nothing there, I believe that's what a lot of players traditionally called 'the abandoned town' or 'abandonded neighborhood' it's a small group of houses with a factory||

[wet timber]

Historic one

Yep

[spare breach]

ok in that case you guys misunderstood what i meant

im looking for a wild western town kinda place, not a industrial one

[keen gorge]

Doesn't seem like that town near Riverside

[spare breach]

ive seen something like that in one of the thursdoids

[velvet egret]

?

[spare breach]

yeah that

where is it

[wet timber]

I told you the right place. The place moonclipper talks about located further to riverside

[spare breach]

gotcha, thanks

[desert spire]

Can't wait for Thursdoid tomorrow! Excited to see what their planning to patch!

[spare breach]

yes

[scenic gazelle]

I wonder if bayonets will be a thing in the future

I swear that I have seen guns with bayonets somewhere in vanilla

[spare breach]

would love me some bayonets, even improvised ones

[scenic gazelle]

Also, they added gun lights for pistols

[spare breach]

i think in B41 its an attachment but you cannot actually use it

almost certain ive seen it once

[scenic gazelle]

anyone seen slings?
attachment to reduce the gun weight

[spare breach]

not in B42 but i havent had the opportunity to find a lot of weapons yet

[red hazel]

These zombies are built different. One bit me and put a hole in my chainmail glove. Cant use it anymore as well.

[severe egret]

Lmfao

Typical

If they can bite through a pristine leather jacket, i guess chainmail aint a stretch.

Waiting for the sign tap

[left kindle]

muscle strain is a good mechanic until I get stuck in with my chickens because I can't climb the fence

[spare breach]

then dont climb the fence, use a door

[wet timber]

Also I hope there's hurricane lanterns in a western town. I feel really frustrated because half of all the batteries I found in b42 had absolutely crappy condition

[left kindle]

no doors.

[spare breach]

create one, even a bad wooden one

[left kindle]

it was early game and I couldn't build anything

didn't want to ruin the metal fence

[spare breach]

pluh

[left kindle]

would look ugly

[severe egret]

Even so, no amount of muscle strain is gonna physically stop me getting over a waist high fence.. like.. come on

[left kindle]

no, the high fences, like the wooden ones you need to climb, might fall down from and etc

[severe egret]

Oh nah yeah thats fair

[red hazel]

earlier I was spamming painkillers and doing non stop pushups with red muscle strain. Truely torture for my character lmao (with rests in between for exhaustion)

[heavy crown]

There's definitely levels of muscle strain that would SIGNIFICANTLY slow down going over a waist high fence

[spare breach]

why do stone blades only have condition and no sharpness is beyond me, seems like a overlook

[heavy crown]

In real life at least, in zomboid I don't think there's an impact as long as you hit E to hop it

[left kindle]

it was literally impossible

[severe egret]

Im in irl agony rn, done something to my back. Yet i can assure you if i have to get over a waist high fence, i can. Just not without a fuckload of pain. And yes, probably slower

[left kindle]

I had to sit down and stare at my chickens for 3 hours

[red hazel]

or when your character is tired and suddenly swings weaker. Im dam sure ill wake tf out if a zombie is trying to eat me lol

[left kindle]

haven't really noticed the combat side of muscle fatigue

[severe egret]

Yeah game lacks any kind of adrenaline system. Devs only care about negative effects on the human body lol not what its capable of doing

[red hazel]

I got that hp bar thing so I can see the numbers. Being tired makes my character weaker

[wet timber]

And "adrenaline junkie" trait just makes you walk faster 😭

[spare breach]

finally, im returning to monke

holy that damage tho, for a stone tool thats good

[wet timber]

Is new fishing thing is any good?

[spare breach]

lvl 0 fishing character here, caught a 20 kg fish with my first attempt lol

it was a fishing rod with a premium reeling line and had a live bait, but still

[red hazel]

let me know if spears are good. One time I tried it, it was losing like 20% durability after a single zombie or two

[spare breach]

i have 4 in maintenance so my opinion wont probably matter to you

[red hazel]

Im half way to 4 so nearly there

[severe egret]

Nothings changed there then lol. Though tbf a sharpened stick aint gonna last long irl either

[spare breach]

alright will let you know

although even just a simple fire hardened wooden spear will last you a while

fire hardening helps a lot once you have it

[severe egret]

Thats good to hear

[red hazel]

I was using a large knife spear. Hated it so much that I just tossed it lol

[spare breach]

it wont make the wooden spear that much less flimsy but it loses durability slightly less, and has better dmg

[spare breach]

have a feeling thats due to the knife part, they get dull and lose condition quick

most of the knives seem very fragile

[wet timber]

New crops farming seems to be so long that I'll never live up to the harvest

[red hazel]

it would be funny if a stone head is more durable

[severe egret]

End of the day, max condition (durability) should majority be influenced by crafting skill

[spare breach]

😬 about that, i only have lvl 1 in knapping so my stone blades have 50% condition

[stiff finch]

wheres the secnd bunker?

[wet timber]

One is behind the school in Marge ridge and the other is under the military lab in the woods

Damn I should check on some English grammar books

[real fox]

mfw reading about stds in the apocaplyse

[spare breach]

the hell are you planning

[real fox]

[red hazel]

to see if zombies still have em

[ember totem]

anyone else had a bug happen where you attack a zombie with a weapon, and it instantly breaks? 100% axe durability

[real fox]

real

[real fox]

likely what happened was the handle condition was low

theres other factors than the condition itself, the handle could be broken n you can replace the handle ( i think )

[ember totem]

can you check the handle condition somehow? Kinda weird because it happened to my 100% fireaxe, and 2 minutes later to a 1h axe (this one was at ~60%)

[real fox]

its hard to see now that its fully broken

[spare breach]

ok guys, the trip from rosewood to the historical coalfield near brandenburg begins now

[real fox]

if u happen to find another axe/debug on another character

you can see the handle condition on the tool tip hovering over it i believe

[spare breach]

i am armed with 3 stone spears and a shotgun with multiple boxes of buckshot, hopefully ill be ok

[real fox]

let me see if i have a hatchet t explain

[real fox]

theres sharpness, handle, head,

[ember totem]

OHH

[real fox]

yeeeeee

[ember totem]

yeah, I guess it was one of those then, not a bug

[stiff finch]

could u send me whrer is the mil lab one on map ss?

[ember totem]

thank you!

[real fox]

annoying i know haha but i think theres a way to re handle them? i am not entirely sure tho have not looked into it

[wet timber]

@stiff finch

Here it is labelled "lab"

[severe egret]

This is why ive been tryina stick to wrenches n shit 😂 less crap to deal with

[ornate parcel]

M16A2 if USMC or USAR, the M4 was in limited use already tho so you could go up to that (in the USAR)

[ember totem]

looks like when the axe breaks, both the the handle and the head goes to 0%. I'll see if I can test it

[scenic gazelle]

I am rolling as the most common grunt imaginable so I took the M16
since it doesn't have burst fire, I am considering it's a M16A1
but thanks anyway

[real fox]

LMFAO??????

[desert spire]

Uh, is anyone else having trouble butchering rabbits? Can't seem to find the option even with a knife

[real fox]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

[real fox]

ive been able to butcher them fine on my end

[umbral raven]

Found a basement with a secret grow-op

[vague trench]

lmao

[spare breach]

im here :D
from rosewood to almost brandenburg

@red hazel the spear with 50% stone head condition lasted me a few zombies + all the ones lying dead in the screenshot

[scenic gazelle]

I am gonna be whacking, hacking and slashing, my friends

[spare breach]

sick

[hidden fox]

Bruh, i swear, it'll take me a few moons to familiarize myself with how much physical energy and exertion have changed. Just escaped a certain death scenario, only able to walk, exhausted to death, deprived of sleep and hungry af. Walking into the woods saved me but even there i had to dodge several random solitary zombies at first before i could find a patch of grass to sleep on and hopefully not get eaten. Btw does anyone know why Rosewood is literally SWARMING with the infected?

[red hazel]

not bad but doesnt do as well as my sheet metal baseball bat also...

[scenic gazelle]

everywhere is swarming with infected, but yeah, you and I are having very similar experiences
I personally liked the new physical exertion mechanics

[spare breach]

well yeah its a sheet metal improvised baseball bat

[red hazel]

I thought I can run in and got swarmed.

[spare breach]

metal + wood versus wood and stone

[scenic gazelle]

a minute of silence for our fallen fellow survivor folks

[red hazel]

yea true. My feels like it lasts even longer than the crow bar lol

[real fox]

Hell yah

[spare breach]

cant wait to get more into improvised weapory

[real fox]

Growing dat herrrb

[real fox]

NOOOO

[red hazel]

I was using firecrackers to draw away some of the crowd but not everyone heard it it seems

[hidden fox]

Can't say i like it too much but I don't hate it either. So long as i can get more resilient in the future and not have to take breaks after killing 5 consecutive zombies i am fine with it.
Also yea Muldraugh was pretty crowded too. I haven't checked the other two yet nor the new towns

[scenic gazelle]

Muldraugh is also packed, specially the gas-stations, but the zeds are more spread out

[spare breach]

rosewood is crowded mostly near where the main road is

the residential areas for example are relatively safe

[scenic gazelle]

I personally had a good time in Riverside and believe it or not in West-point

[spare breach]

we're so back, i found knitting needles

[red hazel]

Mul gas stations and police station. Even the hotel for some reason. They were swarming the residential areas for me. Like at least 20 in my screen everytime lol

[vague trench]

ok whers irvinton i want coows lol

i been walking FOREVER

[real fox]

bro is the walker

[keen gorge]

South of Echo Creek

[scenic gazelle]

anyone went to louisville?

[wild oak]

i eated it all :(

[keen gorge]

Yeah I'm exploring it right now

[scenic gazelle]

I had mad fps drops in there unfortunately

how's your experience fps wise?

Maybe It's a user problem, maybe

[keen gorge]

It's not bad if I compare it to B41

[vague trench]

oh man so im in the wrong sector? LOL shit , i have a van but i dont want to ruin it cause its too pretty

[red hazel]

Mine was pretty terrible when I drove to Rosewood for some reason. Dropped to 30s

[keen gorge]

Like B41 Louisville at higher pops is almost unplayable. B42 I stress tested Louisville at 16X and it's loads better

[scenic gazelle]

anyone else has some fps-drop spikes when zooming out?
like it happens for a brief moment and normalizes

[keen gorge]

Yeah that's a known issue

[scenic gazelle]

it happens in new areas for me, areas that I haven't visited, thus I figured it's just the area loading

[red hazel]

yea, it happens normally when Im driving

[severe egret]

Thus

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/glerm-glorp-cat-erm-gif-116397764024710755

i might have an addiction

[scenic gazelle]

OH, I should use "thus" in place of So then?
thank you, as you can see I am clearly ESL hehe

[keen gorge]

That's nothing. When Elin came out, I got 40 hours there in 3 days

[real fox]

GAW DAMN

[severe egret]

Wut? Lol i typod "this" bro

[keen gorge]

Balance does not exist in my dictionary

[scenic gazelle]

HUH

[severe egret]

Typo

Forgive me for not editing it i guess?

[scenic gazelle]

Happens

[hidden fox]

B42 taught me how to fear PZ again lmao. I'm back to being the coward i was when i first started playing

[frozen wyvern]

My army grows

[scenic gazelle]

happens during the first week for me, guess it's when the zomboids are spawning

[hidden fox]

I have an addiction VS i can stop whenever i want

[keen gorge]

It's only an addiction if you admit it is

[vague trench]

yea lol me when i see a hoard *runs around it *

[scenic gazelle]

lmao, yes
Specially with these new light, exploring indoors or at night is creepy af

[scenic gazelle]

How do I check my recent activity?

[keen gorge]

View my profile

[hidden fox]

I mostly try to stay indoors and somewhere safe in general when its getting dark. Did so too back in 41. What i was referring to is am back to questioning whether or not zombies can see me, hear me, smell me, lmao. My noob concerns. It doesn't help that ive noticed zeds being more inquisitive than they were before

But yeah the new light system is both wicked and unsettling

[real fox]

santa suite

[rich shuttle]

Does anybody else feel let down by the present state of B42 stealth? It's improved for sure, but it often feels like there's no real incentive to mainly do stealth since there are easier/more effective alternatives, even factoring in muscle strain.

[red hazel]

You actually put X's on the map for explored buildings. I just leave the door open as an indicator since im lazy lol

[hidden fox]

Correct me if i am wrong but you can hide behind cars now

[keen gorge]

Yes

Stealth actually stealths

[hidden fox]

Might wanna change that. I found a random house ive never been to with an open door

[frozen wyvern]

It certainly still needs improvement but so far the vision is there

[forest shore]

Correct - as well as crouch behind fences and I believe hedges

[red hazel]

sometimes theyll see me for barely a second from the window and know. There should be a delay to how fast they spot. Not like they're eyeing the windows the entire time

[forest shore]

Also a yes - you can find 'looted' houses now.

[rich shuttle]

If there was a method of throwing objects to distract zombies and such, the visual portion of stealth would be mostly solved imo

[hidden fox]

Ahhh. That explains the items on the floor.

[frozen wyvern]

For some reason default zombies can now randomly have pinpoint hearing or eagle eyed vision, I'd reccomend changing those sandbox settings

[rich shuttle]

But I think it's also to do with zombie distribution a lot of the time, cause especially in town, escaping one zombie usually leads to alerting another, etc

[forest shore]

They're working on that - that's why they rebuilt the ranged combat.

[keen gorge]

Its because of the random senses and speed

[hidden fox]

Correct me again if i am wrong but i found firecrackers in aforementioned house. I think they can be used to lure zombies away? Also megaphones and maybe whistles?

[rich shuttle]

Hiding behind objects has made it better for sure, though I think it seems to not work 100% of the time if they're relatively close

[frozen wyvern]

I switched it to 'Random between poor and normal' and it feels far more fair

Before I turned a generator on and zombies came out of the woods miles away to take a looksy

[forest shore]

The game defaults zombie sight and hearing to random. Change it to 'random between normal and poor' to fix that. Those are eagle eyed zombies.

[rich shuttle]

Whistles and such would lead them to you if I'm not mistaken though. Firecrackers maybe, but there'd be setting them up to go off since I doubt you can light and throw them

[red hazel]

Yea. Firecrackers work. I was using them before I died. Draws quite a bit

[rich shuttle]

Havent found em yet though so ig I could be wrong

[frozen wyvern]

Can you blow on whistles?

[rich shuttle]

As far as I know yeah

[frozen wyvern]

Huh, I found one but couldnt interract

[hidden fox]

Prob need to hold it to use it

[frozen wyvern]

God I hope they add the ability to use every instrument in the game that would be hilarious

[hidden fox]

Like lighter with molotov

[keen gorge]

I'll fight a horde with a harmonica on my mouth

[rich shuttle]

I think the nature of zombie spawns itself makes stealth less attractive as opposed to kiting everyone

[frozen wyvern]

I wanna blast on a trumpet to announce the impending slaughter

[hidden fox]

That. Its pretty hard to stealth in Rosewood so far

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-josh-hutcherson-whistle-edit-whistle-2014-meme-gif-1242113167680346055

mb 😭

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-whistle-my-honest-reaction-meme-gif-5085437841719918504

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-josh-hutcherson-whistle-edit-whistle-2014-meme-gif-1242113167680346055

[hidden fox]

Me when i get cornered in the first basement i ever came across in PZ (no one heard my screams)

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[dim venture]

did anyone play last stand accumulator yet? wonder if they improved it

[real fox]

hit a month

[hot grail]

Louisville airport

[real fox]

guns unlimited 💀

[keen gorge]

32 story skyscraper

[hot grail]

Crazy how low the average zombie kill count is now. We used to get 400 in a day in B41

[keen gorge]

I mean you can still comfortably get 100 per day

Just switch between swinging and stomping so strain doesn't kick in fast

[real fox]

yeah rn im mostly loooting than killing rn

[broken marsh]

can someone pick a random spot for me to base at

[broken marsh]

I'll never decide myself

[real fox]

cleared out most of echo creek i think besides guns unlimited

[broken marsh]

this all in one character?

[real fox]

yes

[broken marsh]

thats crazy, I cant live long enough to get maintenance to level 1

[forest shore]

You open to heading further east?

[broken marsh]

I'll go anywhere

[keen gorge]

Somewhere within the box

[stray nymph]

Is it correct, that it's not possible anymore to split food from a pot into bowls?

[broken marsh]

its settled, I'll die going to that square. Thanks

[forest shore]

Darn, I can't figure out where the spot is that I was thinking of

[real fox]

ill check it out hopefully i dont die lmfao

[forest shore]

And it's on my broken save. Until I figure out how to remove like 100 pigs.

[severe egret]

This. There needs to be a little period where they are unsure what they've seen. Also they come off of attacking structures too fast to chase you. Instead of instantly breaking into their lunge animation there needs to be one were they stop attacking the structure and turn to see you first

[keen gorge]

Hog Wallow Forest seems to be interesting

[broken marsh]

whats the best way to level up maintenance? I've kill 100 zeds with a hammer and a few knives for 7 out of 75xp

[keen gorge]

Crafted spears

It's like an average of 1 XP per 12 hits

[broken marsh]

spears are still the way to go? I cant find an axe for the life of me to get wood

[broken marsh]

so i need like 150 spears basically.. for level 1

[keen gorge]

Or 900 swings yes

[gleaming perch]

may i ask how your skill list looks right now

[gleaming perch]

its set to random thats kinda why

[keen gorge]

Anybody been here?

[gleaming perch]

do you agree with the statement that leveling up skills has been ruined by Indie Stone? people on Reddit keep complaining about it

[keen gorge]

It's always been a grind

And I started at B38

[gleaming perch]

Yeah but Redditors be bitching about it mad loud

[real fox]

eh idk, i feel like theres just more skills to do but besides that i havent had much trouble, esp since i chose stuff that i didnt want to grind like the tailoring trait and strength

[keen gorge]

If anything, things are easier now

[gleaming perch]

The only skill I see hard to grind now is ‘Maintenance’ due to the rarity of 2-handed weapons

[real fox]

i agree, theres more resources to grind x thing than 41

[broken marsh]

maintenance level one is annoying from what I hear, I dont want to change xp rates because it makes it feel not as rewarding to me

[gleaming perch]

One handed weapon grinding for maintenance is very slow

I used a fire axe in one life and I got it pretty fast

[keen gorge]

Maintenance for B42 gets most of its gains from crafting now, not combat

[gleaming perch]

Yeesh

My only gripe is that to start off in the wilderness you need Maintenance Level 1 for literally everything 😭😭

[real fox]

i cant find this place ur pointing me at lmfao

ill have to take a car out and take a different road and then hit the field the next day to see whats up

[keen gorge]

Might be more helpful if you have the world map

[real fox]

ah your right

[keen gorge]

Open up Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\maps\Muldraugh, KY\worldmap.png

[scenic gazelle]

here goes nothing...
My leg got better, been few days now

[keen gorge]

You should get to here

It's what I'm using while map project's not updated yet

[real fox]

nice ncie

r u pointing me here? i think

i think i saw someone get the lantern here

[scenic gazelle]

Ah yes, the western town
good place to find antique stuff, stoves, hurricane lamptern, wild-west clothing, there's a bunch of coffins there too

[real fox]

erosion goes hard in this game i like it

[keen gorge]

There's lots of base potential in these 4 areas

I'd probably pick the estates if you want an easier life with looting runs otherwise the other 2 would be more peaceful

[real fox]

rn im basing at the gasing station, but i plan on leaving this place soon

[scenic gazelle]

what mod you using? I am curious of those condition indicators lol

[real fox]

erosion is a base game mechanic

full erosion happens at 100 days

but i have it set to 50 cause i wanted to check it out more

[scenic gazelle]

I know, I know
talking about the condition indicators

[real fox]

OHHHHHHH sorry

[scenic gazelle]

I miss the little star indicator, anyone remember those?

[real fox]

i gotchu

[keen gorge]

Probably this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2852309899

[real fox]

yessss

was aboutto link

[stray nymph]

Yes... pretty houses.

[scenic gazelle]

thank you

[real fox]

the mods im using rn

if something breaks/i find a bug i just disable mods and create a dummy character to verify its a real bug or not

[scenic gazelle]

Ohhh, nice

[real fox]

i miss the old moodles, so i HAD to get that mod to restore them haha

and the battery mod to kinda bandaid that all batteries go to so low in storage rn

till they officially fix it

[keen gorge]

Those in red are too full of zeds even at default. You either need a gun or you would need a full in game week to kill them all

In other good news, my old base for LV is still very much safe

I might be wrong but there seems to be more indoor zeds now than back at B41

So clearing city blocks is so much slower than before if you're not gonna use fire

[amber rover]

Is that weird fort still in the NE forest from Louisville?

[keen gorge]

I'm pretty sure its still there but outside of current map borders

[forest shore]

Let me load debug and check

[hallow adder]

Honestly, I prefer the newer moodles over the old one.

[sturdy wren]

erosion is arguably one of the best ingame mechanics

[sturdy wren]

and that's fine

[forest shore]

It's ||directly north of the airport now|| still there.

[hallow adder]

Eroion? Erosion?

[amber rover]

I'm kind of not fussed? I mean, I see the moodles a lot more now because the muscle strain mechanic absolutely destroyed me with my own overconfidence from 1200 hours of kicking absolute ass

[vague trench]

good luck!

[sturdy wren]

eurasia yes

[amber rover]

But they're at least easily readable, and I haven't necessarily found any that are difficult to understand

[ornate parcel]

the toilet brush icon is FOUL 😭

[amber rover]

Although that egg one confused the hell out of me

[sturdy wren]

😭

[amber rover]

https://tenor.com/view/remygag-remy-gag-barf-rat-gif-978058593911536854

[opaque schooner]

Toilet paper

[sturdy wren]

can someone explain what the happy and angry moodles are for

[velvet egret]

Wild. There’s sandbox settings for XP multipliers for any and all skills. If they want dismantling furniture to provide carpentry XP again, there’s a setting for that too. There’s also a setting to give your character up to 100 free points or something if they want to start with many skills leveled up when you spawn in

[hallow adder]

Angry = Extremely bad mood, you didn't relax enough, you feel grumpy. Read literature books.

Happy moodle = Keep at this. +1 combat skills.

[sturdy wren]

can i bite my teammates when im angry

[hallow adder]

I think they are debating whether that setting should be set to 10 by default and reverting it back to what it was in Build 41.

One side says to stay with the devs on game balance, the other side wants to stay with playing Build 42 but with Build 41 sandbox settings.

[cunning turtle]

Yes

[hallow adder]

Game balance = Discouraging players from disassembling objects in multiplayer, teaching them from the beginning.

[forest shore]

Look who I found guys! (debug mode lol)

[gleaming perch]

they’re all complaining like everything in this unstable is permanent lol its just aggravating

[sturdy wren]

hopefully there will be a sandbox setting for 41-esque apoc for people who can't let go

[gleaming perch]

I get complaining about features in a game but doing it over and over just gets annoying

[hallow adder]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-elsa-let-it-go-gif-20077821

[gleaming perch]

Holy shit

[real fox]

LMFAOOO???

[gleaming perch]

did you find Frank too? supposedly hes at the LV border camp

[sturdy wren]

that kinda looks like my main character

[hallow adder]

What am I looking at?

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-elsa-let-it-go-gif-20077821

[gleaming perch]

Jackie Jaye

that is the zombified version of her. she is a character you can hear on the radio for the first week of the apocalypse

[forest shore]

Yep - even ID with her name on it

[sturdy wren]

didnt she have yellow hair ?

[gleaming perch]

No thats someone else

[cunning turtle]

To the mic

[sturdy wren]

from the

[gleaming perch]

pen

[cunning turtle]

Yea from the

[keen gorge]

Anyone know what cursed crops even mean?

[sturdy wren]

ghosts!!!!!!!!

[keen gorge]

This one has even Reddit stumped

But I'm guessing this is probably the reason why almost no one can farm successfully

[forest shore]

If he's there I can't spot him. But the border camp is absolutely packed.

[gleaming perch]

figures

[forest shore]

I recall a dev mentioning that some seeds will be diseased. I'm guessing that cursed: true is a debug flag, and it's saying the seeds it produces will be unviable.

[real fox]

THE PLAGUE lmfao actually idk

[keen gorge]

I'd need to dive into the lua

[vague trench]

its chocolate

[hallow adder]

"Cursed" is short for "Is Infected"

[keen gorge]

It seems like it gives them the cursed status if you plant out of season

What doesn't make sense is it seems like its still there even if you disable growing seasons in sandbox

[hallow adder]

The flag is set, but the sandbox setting will make the game ignore the flag.

[ornate parcel]

idk man it don't look like chocolate

[forest shore]

I would say if it gets that flag even planted without growing seasons on, that's a bug.

[forest shore]

Or that lol.

Where's the tall af skyscraper in Lousiville?

[hallow sail]

Its gonna grow zombies vegetables’

[vague trench]

theres some by spiffos headquarters dunno how big

[frozen wyvern]

Is clay considered a 'stone' in the foraging focus menu?

[keen gorge]

Somewhere around here

[civic drum]

I may be a little late here, but in case no one gave you the answer, looking for McCoy logging trucks. If you go to the logging camp, you should find a couple. I found 4 axes among the trucks. I have found no axes anywhere else.

[broken marsh]

Ok thanks, better late than never!

[civic drum]

No worries, they last longer now, at least. You can also try the Fire stations too.

[sturdy wren]

cant you craft one ?

1 rag, 1 branch and 1 sharp stone

[frozen wyvern]

Also speak of the devil, I just found a whistle. You can't blow it tho :(

[forest shore]

Yes it is

[forest shore]

Thank ya. I fouind it :3

[keen gorge]

I'm not sure since I'm away from my computer rn but i think the name is Orio Office Space

[winter imp]

so do weapons just not exist in Echo Creek?

[pine oracle]

theres just no way this is an intended feature
the smaller cow is actually 200kg heavier

[winter imp]

I'm on day 4 and I've been stomping zombies the whole time

[frozen wyvern]

He hides the weight well

[pine oracle]

my bull does

[frozen wyvern]

Chonker

[pine oracle]

i think hes the heaviest bull i have seen

but also the smallest model wise

[scenic gazelle]

iirc there's a shooting range in echo creek

[forest shore]

He's quite a bit above the average for a holstein according to google. I'd be surprised if you found one much bigger than that

[forest shore]

You can also just use a rock.

[pine oracle]

1200kg holsteins are completely possible

theres no real average weight for holsteins

i suppose its fair since its the most popular cattle breed, there will be a ton of different strains of different sizes

[forest shore]

This seems like a story location. Not sure for whom.

Windows are all boarded up, and the radio has the unknown frequency and civilian radio.

[real fox]

AYO

[frozen wyvern]

Someone ordered a stripper 4 u i guess lol

[dawn elm]

zombie strippers

[slow dagger]

Will multiplayer be out before february?

[keen gorge]

Very unlikely

[frozen wyvern]

My guess is no

[slow dagger]

hm

[keen gorge]

Too many bugs to fix

I'd be surprised if we get MP by the second half of 2025

[frozen wyvern]

YEah 42 is great but I wouldnt say its near MP ready

[cunning turtle]

Paddlefruit knows things

[frozen wyvern]

Everyone would be blowing up servers with chickens

[errant glen]

does anyone know why running over zombies fills up your gas tank? 💀