Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[sturdy wren]

I should consider trying to learn German because my brother is learning it to try and one up him

BEER

[scenic gazelle]

Ngl, this update finally made me struggle to find food in PZ
not like I am one the pro players but everyone gotta agree food was rather plentiful in B41 and zomboids didn't pose a big threat as they do nwo with these new combat mechanics

[cunning turtle]

Yeah, I'm planning to do that when i start to learn other languages

[opaque schooner]

They decreased spawns drastically, and I’m all for it

[cunning turtle]

Yeah you should

[scenic gazelle]

Moments like this really make finding stuff feel good.

[fringe barn]

its a bugged / missing recipe for now, not the only one either

[gleaming perch]

FUCK ME

[scenic gazelle]

We share the same opinions my friend

[cunning turtle]

[opaque schooner]

Hell yeah

[gleaming perch]

I HATE it MAN I rlly wanted to make them

[fringe barn]

me too, was excited since I found the magazine for it

[scenic gazelle]

I am gonna enjoy that beer tonight and ration some food, I had to eat all my piggies back home...

[remote bear]

I might do a "better sorting" mod for B42, but I am unsure whether Better Sorting dev is still active for PZ.

[sturdy wren]

Can't you just get infinite food by fishing when basing at the houses northwest of west point

[scenic gazelle]

also, what do you guys do with the carcass head?
I noticed you can remove the butcher it, but the skull has no use for me

[sturdy wren]

Better Better Sorting

[remote bear]

Inventory Categories I would call it lol

[sturdy wren]

Can you put it Infront of your house to scare zomme boidses

[subtle tendon]

the animals are so realistic, they want to go inside and when i let them inside they just stand there for 3 seconds and leave

[gleaming perch]

You can make skull poles out of them

[remote bear]

anyway i go sleeb

[scenic gazelle]

Oh nice

[sturdy wren]

If you're agoraphobic, they're agoraphobic, let them inside

I literally cannot fathom the existence of wild animals in a zombie game

[cunning turtle]

Chicken

[scenic gazelle]

PZ never felt so immersive, this update is pure gold.

[neat saffron]

... then whats the point of the wooden tongs

[stable pilot]

primitive smithing

[neat saffron]

but... this... is- ?

[stable pilot]

yes wooden tongs can be used to hold hot metal, they just dont last too long

at least irl

[neat saffron]

"its for primitive smithing"

Cannot be used for primitive smithing

[cunning turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160784514633715744/1312620361237528667/attachment.gif

[stable pilot]

Thats because the primitive survival crap isnt implemented yet

[gleaming perch]

Really?

[jade haven]

HAH! It's hilarious how outdated this is now.

LET US NEVER SPAM THE ROADMAP EVER AGAIN, PLEASE!!!

[sturdy wren]

Primitive survival? Will i be able to start in a forest and come out with full chainmail armor?

[glacial cape]

Not yet it seems but that's the idea

[jade haven]

Not on the base map. You'll still need metal from the cities.

[sturdy wren]

There's iron in my blood

[glacial cape]

Starting from nothing and making your way up to medieval era technology and making metal tools & objects

[jade haven]

There's gonna be a forest challenge map in the future with random iron outcroppings to REALLY use primitive crafting

[glacial cape]

Are those outcroppings not coming to the main map?

[hasty dagger]

Do we have a build 42 compatable ladder mod yet? I see so many ladders I want to climb. weird its not in base game.

[stable pilot]

Yeah the devs are gonna add that wilderness only map so you have to rely on the entire crafting tree to survive up to a medieval tech level

[glacial cape]

Geniuenly curious because there's already flint, limestone & stone outcroppings it wouldn't be asurprise to see iron and clay(yes which you can mine if you have a pickaxe)

[jade haven]

Nope. Explicitly said that it won't. Just a feature of the forest-only map.

[stable pilot]

Yeah we wont be needing any ore nodes in knox country since there's steel literally everywhere

[neat saffron]

haha aw man i wish

The Devs first gotta fix that a good 25-50% of the crafting progress tree requires scavenged modern age tools.

[glacial cape]

Damn, so is the only way to get iron on the main map just to smelt the already prexisiting iron bars, pipes & sheets that seems like a finite resource though

without respawns on of course

[jade haven]

Legit though. They must be planning usable ladders at some point, but I guess it'll have to work in conjunction with buildable ladders.

[stable pilot]

You can salvage metal from places that would make sense yeah, car wrecks are a good source and there are a ton more wrecks now

[jade haven]

Speaking of which, is it possible to dismantle train tracks? I tried but I didn't see an option.

[glacial cape]

Doesn't seem like it yet

[stable pilot]

That was mentioned in a blog post but im not sure it is yet

[glacial cape]

there are recipes which invovle the railroad spikes

[stable pilot]

yeah when I hovered over the railroad with the dissassemble option nothing popped up, still needs to cook as far as I can tell

[sturdy wren]

Zombies can spawn with metal pipes theoretically

[glacial cape]

Yeah honestly I'm just happy we got some playable version of build 42 after waiting 2-3 years for one,

I might've been fine waiting a bit longer thou xd

[sturdy wren]

As long as you don't have an old amd card playable

[woven beacon]

It would take you irl years to get through all the iron on the vanilla map...

[glacial cape]

Unless you're on a mp server with loot respawn off

[sturdy wren]

There will definitely be a mod that adds outcrops to foraging or something

[glacial cape]

mp servers would pick the map clean in the first week(might be a bit exaggerated lol)

[woven beacon]

Might take a year then

[woven beacon]

No way lol

[stable pilot]

I mean one big point with the crafting overhaul is to give servers a reason to not reset the map and keep it going indefinitely

[sturdy wren]

Question, is there medieval armor

[glacial cape]

I got some armor recipe I think let me launch up pz and check for you

[stable pilot]

yes? I mean theres plate armor it just isnt like a historical armor

Theres also chainmail

[sturdy wren]

Chainmal would protect against bites well theretoyicaly

[stable pilot]

It does in game last I saw, Its not perfect in all of your body parts but it can take punishment

[glacial cape]

Heard the armor is actually pretty good, but it doesn't protect from drag down

[stable pilot]

Yeah drag down is insta death no matter what

[glacial cape]

and it causes discomfort I'd still take drip over protection anyways especially since drag down is a thing lol

[sturdy wren]

Drip over anything

[stable pilot]

Yeah I fight light so I can preserve energy when I fight zombies

[sturdy wren]

Guns may be good but i vibe with 7 holes in my left shoe

[glacial cape]

Yeah right, I feel like the armor will probably be heavy & slow you down

haven't tested it myself yet though so who knows

[stable pilot]

Well I mean really good armor would be great if youre worried you might get bit from behind, as well as with PVP and eventually fighting with NPC survivors

[sturdy wren]

Why fight?

[glacial cape]

Yeah but armor doesn't feel like the thing you'd wear on the daily basis

[sturdy wren]

Can't we become friends?

[glacial cape]

Like you said pvp, fighting npc surviviors and zombies

[sturdy wren]

And eventually shoot them in the back of they head

They should add suppressors that don't actually do anything

[hearty pond]

i mean, play with bandits and it'll make you wear armor regularly

and holy hell the gun range in echo creek is packed, but the loot is really nice

[stable pilot]

real, theyre spooky

[gleaming perch]

true

[vague trench]

lol uh huh

[glacial cape]

Wonder if they'll add in game renders for the photographs we see in houses similar to the newspapers

[frozen wyvern]

It'd be kind of a waste of time to do the cool renders for the boring houses rather than for POIs

But I am excited for mods to make their own fliers if possible. Hopefully TIS releases a style guide on how they made theirs!

Ooooo wait you mean the photos you find in the houses lol

It would be neat but the problem is you'd find like a bazillion duplicates of a personal photo across the entire state which would be odd

[glacial cape]

Yeah leave that one for the modders I guess lol

[hasty dagger]

they added a door to the roof of the westpoint big grocery store... but no doorframe.

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[delicate rover]

so w' the new grapple system for moving corpses, are we still able to place a body into a vehicle?

[neat saffron]

how come that with enough metalworking experience i can make a shortsword on the primitive forge but not a large knife blade?

Wild.

[pallid hinge]

one more to go and I can use generators

[frozen wyvern]

No not atm, but honestly I can't think of a practical reason you would want to? It would eb cool tho

[neat saffron]

didnt the tooltip say you need lvl 3

[frozen wyvern]

I think you can use it now lol

[pallid hinge]

let me check

[delicate rover]

to pack up bodies near base to move them away to another location? instead of having to drag each nd every body away from your base

[glacial cape]

Yyeah its level 3

[pallid hinge]

oh cool😁

[glacial cape]

I grinded to level 3 electrical just to search a random house out in the sticks straight after only to find a generator magazine

[frozen wyvern]

I suppose that's true, putting a bunch of corpses in a trailer like Montey Python would be very funny

[hallow sail]

i basically did the same thing then proceeded to find 3 gen magazines

[glacial cape]

it do be like that sometimes

[frozen wyvern]

Peak Zomboid

Honestly I am so excited for mods with this version there's so much that can be done

[pallid hinge]

Well the good news is I have a generator now

the bad news is all my food is rotten so it doesn't really matter if I have a generator

[frozen wyvern]

Thems the breaks kid

[pallid hinge]

on the bright side I will have light at night

[hallow sail]

time to farm

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah lighting is brutal, now that the power has gone out in my save I can see the issues people are having with pitch darkness inside in the daytime

Light needs to propagate further indoors during the day

[delicate rover]

as of rn its super tedius/time consuming/exhausting to drag 30 corpses away from the general area of a base. example you takeover a building nd wanna clear the parking lot of bodies from fighting so you can park cars there. in b41 could load the corpses up into the back of a truck or van to drive off somewhere to dump them

[frozen wyvern]

I agree, I think that corpse dragging should be faster and cost waaaaay less energy than it does

[pallid hinge]

I still have been just letting them melt away tbh

so far it has been fine

[glacial cape]

I feel that pain

[frozen wyvern]

Same, I feel like turning up corpse sickness in the sandbox settings would be a real challenge now tho

[delicate rover]

imo the energy is realistic, bodies are heavy. dragging is pretty slow though, I think we should have a sprint option for dragging that makes us drag slightly faster but at a higher energy consumption

[pallid hinge]

max corpse sickness in B41 was pretty brutal, I can only imagine in B42

[delicate rover]

how long does that take for them to decompose though?

[pallid hinge]

roughly 10 days

[sturdy wren]

Don't feed the zombies oughtta become crazy

[vague trench]

same here , unless if theyre cuasing health thingie i just let them go forever nap

[frozen wyvern]

I suppose, but gameplay wise with the amount of corpses it's a bit much imo. It's a weird situation Zomboid has with realism vs. Gameplay

[hallow sail]

i say it should just level strength more

and then with strength makes dragging easier

[delicate rover]

this the mod where they are attracted to corpses to feed right? I think they incorporated some of that into b42. I saw a buncha zombies eating a corpse on the road in west point a day ago

[frozen wyvern]

starts bench pressing corpses

[vague trench]

lol need a wood chipper

[frozen wyvern]

That's always been a thing, it's just rare

[delicate rover]

oooh fr? learn somethin everyday

[pallid hinge]

there are events that have zombies eat corpses - but the mod draws zombies to the dead

yeee

[hallow sail]

maybe they should add that maggots eat zombie corpses

[glacial cape]

oh you can get BBQ starter fluid now

[hallow sail]

makes maggots actually do something useful

[sturdy wren]

Can't you literally find maggots on decomposing bodies in vanilla?

[hallow sail]

yes

[frozen wyvern]

Something that's been kinda bothering me this update is how weirdly inconsistently zombies get aggroed to you

[sturdy wren]

Compost

[hallow sail]

besides that

[sturdy wren]

I think it's related to the new stealth stuff

[pallid hinge]

Anyone figure out a good vehicle for towing? so far the cars I have found have been really bad at it (rip my B41 dart, how they have gutted thee)

[frozen wyvern]

I think it has to do with how I think zombies can randomly get really good vision now with the default settings

[delicate rover]

I think thats the new stealth system needing tweaked. when im fighting, ill aggo many zombies far away, but once im done fighting itll be like they cant see me nd they will stop in their tracks nd stand there until I make more noise even tho im within eyesight distance of them

[sturdy wren]

I can't exactly think of a way how you could plant a single maggot on a body and have them devour the corpse in less than 10 days

[hallow sail]

think harder

[sturdy wren]

five, hundred, maggots

[frozen wyvern]

It's like I fight 1 zombie, make sure the area is clear, then like 4 zombies come out of nowhere

[hallow sail]

mhm...

[glacial cape]

I had a 550 horse power sports car and it was still towing other cars at 30mph

[hallow sail]

we had a chickpocalypse. next is the maggotpocalypse.

[sturdy wren]

It was like that in b41 for me constantly

[pallid hinge]

[glacial cape]

towing trailers is still good

[sturdy wren]

I come out of the house, fight one zombie, 5 minutes later i have the entire population of muldraugh on my tail

[frozen wyvern]

I dunno I played 41 for ages but it feels like something changed

When it comes to aggro

[glacial cape]

but ngl you aren't getting far in any downtown with a trailer so I've started to set an entrance to one or a location on the outskirts of a town as an makeshift safehouse and leaving my trailer there

[sturdy wren]

I would hope so since they're trying to make stealth actually viable to go with muscle strain

[glacial cape]

Had to kill 50 zombies alone just to clear out rosewood gas station 💀

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah stealth is great now

[pallid hinge]

I found a car battery charger 😍

[autumn pier]

If I ever owned a PZ prison, I would feed my prisoners cooked maggot beer soup

[frozen wyvern]

The heatmaps are cool but some areas do feel too strongly populated

[sturdy wren]

A WHAT

[delicate rover]

whats the trick with those? if you place them on the ground you cant pick them back up again or use them

[sturdy wren]

Probably bug,

[frozen wyvern]

I just visited it in my playthrough and it is fucking INFESTED with zombies

[autumn pier]

Yeah, they’re way more common now. Finding one in B41 was like finding a excalibur

[delicate rover]

was like that in b41 and b42

[real fox]

can someone help me out, how do you clean the hatch for the chicken coop, i have a bath towel but the icon to clean is still grey

[glacial cape]

It really is amd I'm trying to reach the downtown for the bookstore (I might be cooked)

[sturdy wren]

There were car battery chargers in b41???

[frozen wyvern]

They took rosewood and just multiplied it by two lol

[pallid hinge]

yarr

[glacial cape]

Riverside is pretty bad as well

[real fox]

OHHH AND WATER

[frozen wyvern]

I'm not sure, my guess is that you don't have enough water?

[sturdy wren]

Isn't that because there was a shitton of zombies in the woods and they reallocated them

[glacial cape]

can't even imagine how muldraugh is or west point

[autumn pier]

Yeah but you’d have better chances finding a spiffo zombie with a katana

[sturdy wren]

Also did b42 add not being reliant on gas stations for electricity

[autumn pier]

Or at least that’s how it was for me

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah that might be it, they gotta reduce their numbers tho lmao

[sturdy wren]

Like wood fired boiler generators

[frozen wyvern]

Rosewood is completely and overwhelmingly overrun

[sturdy wren]

i think I'm wishing for too much

[sturdy wren]

muldraugh fans keep winning

[frozen wyvern]

I'm having a hard time there too as well lol

I haven't found much good loot, I think for my next save I'm gonna up the amount of guns and ammo for fun

[glacial cape]

In many ways b42 is easier but in others its harder

guns are kinda scuffed now as well though so gl trying to clear with those

[hallow sail]

i didn't know muldrough fans existed. place is a shithole

[spare breach]

probably. though, wouldnt mind more alternatives for electricity. By the way, i wonder how much of a thing solar energy was back then in 1993, probably close to noexistent

[pallid hinge]

many people love it, especially people who played early on cause it was their first town

[hallow sail]

the place is vertical hell

[spare breach]

would be cool to have something akin to a steam generator tho etc

[dense vortex]

is anyone else having alot of trouble surviving off the land? its like impossible for me so far. i keep starving

[frozen wyvern]

Time to hunt

[glacial cape]

honestly muldraugh ain't too bad now that the main strip of road isn't infested anymore

[spare breach]

unless your foraging is 3-4 or higher i probably wouldnt bother

[glacial cape]

and the main streets are a lot clearer trust me I played B41 with friends the other day I noticed the difference 💀

[spare breach]

you can find fairly a lot of "food" on the ground but youll get depression fast lmao

[dense vortex]

can you find better food than mushroosms and berries

[hallow sail]

berries are good

[dense vortex]

thats why i keep starving, i just dont know what to eat

[hallow sail]

no calories, tho

[frozen wyvern]

Right now I think the balance needs to change to support multiple styles of play from the get go, rn everything seems to start from combat then onward, at least for me

[spare breach]

onions/leeks in the ground occasionally, i think onions can be found in dirt, not grass

[dense vortex]

so then i just fish?

[pallid hinge]

Wooo!

[dense vortex]

i did catch a hugeeeee cat fish that i had to eat raw, cuz it wouldnt fit on the campfire

[spare breach]

definitely should consider. It'll be the viable way to get some meat, plus hunting, which will be a bit trickier

[pallid hinge]

Time to fail at hotwiring over and over

[frozen wyvern]

I find it fitting that a person named bunga is learning how to live off the land, very caveman esque (in a good way lol)

[spare breach]

hes returning to monke

[dense vortex]

i was planning on hunting after i get shit set up more, but i wanna do a run where i live off the land sooo bad

[hallow sail]

lmfao

[dense vortex]

hahaha yeah

[frozen wyvern]

I think that living off the land completely isn't quiiiittteee there yet, I feel like wait for more of 42 to develop to attempt a caveman run

[real fox]

how long does it take for baby animals to grow up?

in defualt sandbox settings?

[glacial cape]

Anyone tried to level welding yet just wondering?

[dense vortex]

damnit

[frozen wyvern]

Ah well it's a beta.

[spare breach]

yep, might need to wait for 42 full release, maybe even another patch afterwards

[dense vortex]

thats true, do they plan to make it completely possible?

[frozen wyvern]

That's the plan

[spare breach]

yes

its why theyve added the infinite wilderness at the borders of the map

[frozen wyvern]

Their mantra this update is going from stone age to apocalypse medieval without looting

[spare breach]

it's meant to eventually be possible to live off and thrive in wilderness alone

[pallid hinge]

I don't know the actual days but this is the setting

[frozen wyvern]

Is the infinite wilderness in right now actually? Haven't tested it

[hallow sail]

i think a few weeks

[spare breach]

i havent tested, but it has been officially noted many times that it has been added with the unstable release

[frozen wyvern]

Oh ok

Time to go on a voyage

[hallow sail]

The pigs i got fully grew recently, and its around the beginning of september

[dense vortex]

i really love the new update so far tho, i hope they keep the new zombie spawn

[pallid hinge]

hotwired this truck on the first try - lets gooo

[dense vortex]

it makes the game harder deffinitly, but easier for early game

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah 42 is looking good, it's very exciting because we're back in an update cycle after not having one for years

[spare breach]

it's lowkey annoying because now most zombies gather around areas where im most likely to loot stuff XD
but it makes sense

[frozen wyvern]

The heatmaps and zombie amount still need adjustment but overall are good changes

[spare breach]

it seems more crafting recipes are to come on full 42 release, excited for that

[frozen wyvern]

Again, rosewood is a fucking nightmare

[spare breach]

i main rosewood and the main road going through it is scary

[dense vortex]

ueah but i like that alot, its like, early game you have to go house to house and take look their and get stronger and take on bigger and bigger places. makes the game slower i think

[spare breach]

also the countryside with farm houses on the left of rosewood has like 150 roaming zombs

[frozen wyvern]

I haven't even dipped my toes into the crafting yet, I'm not sure where to start lol

I need clay to start but I dunno where to get it

[pallid hinge]

I feel this

[spare breach]

literally just the forest

[pallid hinge]

foraging apparently

[spare breach]

it is fairly common, forage for it on the ground

[dense vortex]

really?????

[frozen wyvern]

I know the devs said there wouldn't be any in game explanation but I feel that that's a massive mistake

[lethal wolf]

I found clay on the asphalt road to McCoy lol

[spare breach]

yes, you can get it just by foraging the grass in a forest

[glacial cape]

Ngl Rosewood & Riverside were pretty easy locations this might be for the better

[dense vortex]

im determined to make a house in the foreset next to a lake. im gonna keep trying til i set up a self sustaining one

[sturdy wren]

It's the first and only place i spawn

[frozen wyvern]

My goal is to steal all the fairy lights and make a pretty palace

[spare breach]

never liked muldraugh much

[hallow sail]

insanity!

[sturdy wren]

The best thing about it is no gun store

[frozen wyvern]

Muldraugh is really detailed now, I like it

[sturdy wren]

Because guns cause violence

[frozen wyvern]

So true bestie

[glacial cape]

Noticed it isn't just muldraugh which received a glow up

[frozen wyvern]

PZ is about love and happiness

[spare breach]

it really does. I'm slowly levelling up my fitness and combat skills though, as well as being really close to forge my own stuff

i will be spewing out crude iron machetes like theres no tomorrow

[dense vortex]

yeah i love it, it feels very intentional and pulled off well

i just wish multiplayer was added cuz i want to play with friend

[spare breach]

naturally-occuring iron isnt in yet iirc, but you should still be able to smelt stuff that has iron in it, atleast thats what im assuming

[frozen wyvern]

I'm excited for controller and steamdeck support, zomboid is fun in splitscreen and on the go

[spare breach]

since i have some metalworking skill levels and the blacksmithing knowledge trait i'll be focusing more on iron + using forges and anvils rather than welding stuff with steel

[sturdy wren]

I'm excited for the game to work on my machine

[dense vortex]

hahahaha

[sturdy wren]

amd fans keep losing :((

[frozen wyvern]

It's weird because while the performance on average is better than 41, there's way more stuttering because I think the game is caching in real time

It good if you're staying in one place but it's rough when driving. Still not bad overall tho

[sturdy wren]

Consistent low fps > higher fps with stuttering

[pallid hinge]

I'd still take this over B41's driving tbh

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah

[hallow sail]

where do you begin with blacksmithing?

[frozen wyvern]

Driving feels better because you don't have to worry about random ass zombies in the middle of the road... as much. They're still there but less

[dense vortex]

yeah i really want like a chart to show just the begining of each skill tree. like how to get started in carpentry, and metal working and the pottery

from their i could figure it out

[hallow sail]

i've still found my fair share of clowncar-fulls of zombies in the middle of a random forest reserve dirt path

[sturdy wren]

question, can i still just disassemble furniture

[frozen wyvern]

Nope

[spare breach]

you'll need to make a primitive anvil + primitive forge + primitive furnace, i believe. You need various tools and materials for all of these

[pallid hinge]

you can, just won't get xp

[sturdy wren]

Let's GOOO

[hallow sail]

Okay cool. just need to know my starting point!

[spare breach]

its mostly stone and clay, but theres some really specific stuff that makes it a bit harder

the recipes for it arent currently the most balanced so just keep that in mind

[hallow sail]

u know how to get clay and stone?

[spare breach]

its going to be pretty rough for a while

[sturdy wren]

instead of "wait lemme disassemble everything" i will hear "wait lemme lose muscle strain"

[frozen wyvern]

It's kinda eh tho, since I can't get carpentry xp from dismantling and I missed life and living, I had to level up by just barricading and rebarricading a window like 700 times, which is arguably much LESS engaging than dismantling furnature

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[spare breach]

you can visually find stones laying on the ground in the forest, by right-clicking them you can pick them up. You can also forage for them, both in forests and on the roads. Clay is found in the forest by foraging

[hallow sail]

gotcha. cool

[sturdy wren]

Wait they didn't add more carpentry stuff to account for disassembly being nerfed?

[frozen wyvern]

I like how building a damn wall gets you less xp than hammering a plank of wood to a wall

[frozen wyvern]

Not really, but again it's a beta so it'll be adjusted I hope

[spare breach]

they added a lot of carpentry stuff, especially weaponry-related, but a lot of it seems locked behind having to learn specific recipes

[hallow sail]

building things and barricading the same window over and over again is meta

[frozen wyvern]

That barricading thing had to be changed, that's way more boring than disassembling furniture

[sturdy wren]

And you can't learn them when getting high enough carpentry level? Only magazines?

[sturdy wren]

And it doesn't take a carpenter to put a couple nails in a board pinned to the wall so yeah

[spare breach]

the way i leveled up to carpentry 3 and 4 is by reading a book (i already had dedcent carpentry due to being a DIY specialist or whatever the profession is called) and then building a hut that i wouldve needed to build anyway

[sturdy wren]

a hut?

[spare breach]

like 40 logs sawn into planks and 100+ nails later and im still not done

[frozen wyvern]

Leveling up skills is also harder now since finding carpentry books is harder since there are so many new skill books now

[hallow sail]

i did the same thing. its eventually gonna be like a freezer/shed building for my butchering zone

[frozen wyvern]

I can't say I'm a fan of how skills seem to still be so bottlenecked by books still

[spare breach]

just a medium-sized wooden building right next to my house where i established a base, i already built a wooden chair and table inside

will finish building the walls and then move onto building lots of shelves for storage once i have more nails

will probably need to raid a warehouse or something

[sturdy wren]

Idm books except that you kinda have to sit and not do anything for irl hours to read em

[spare breach]

i built a small porch for the wooden hut where i will be doing my blacksmithing

[sturdy wren]

god forgive me

[sturdy wren]

Can you build blacksmitheries or do you have to haul them in a car

[spare breach]

what

[sturdy wren]

Like the new crafting stations

[spare breach]

its not a singular item/building, you need a lot of tools, materials and specific buildings for it

[sturdy wren]

Or do you have to bring them over from civilization

[spare breach]

you can build them by yourself but you can likely move them as well

im guessing some stuff like the advanced anvils might exist somewhere but i havent found anything yet

[sturdy wren]

Year long playthroughs getting juicy

[spare breach]

so far it seems that most things blacksmithing-related need to be made by the player

what irks me a lot is how some recipes require one very specific tool

really wish they change that soon so one recipe can make use of 3-4 alternative tools for additional flexibility

moreover as youtube has proven you can make very primitive kilns, forges and furnaces literally by hand so i dont understand why you need a tool for that

[sturdy wren]

Neurotrauma reference

My life goal is to do zomboid surviving in the forest but irl

[frozen wyvern]

I heard that the western village town has everything you need for blacksmithing

[sturdy wren]

but without a controlled environment it's dangerous and in a controlled environment it's boring

[spare breach]

which one, whats it called

[pallid hinge]

Edith shall become primitive technology youtube channel

😁

[sturdy wren]

Aren't like half of em fake

[spare breach]

also guys keep in mind to even begin to try to get into blacksmithing you will need to build a primitive anvil which is literally just a chiseled large rock but the problem is that you need a stone or mason's chisel for it and neither of those are easy to find

[pallid hinge]

most of them are - but I am pretty sure the og prim tech channel isn't

[spare breach]

i have like 3-4 mason's trowels but no chisels, one is found by looting and the other is craftable with lvl 4 knapping or something

[sturdy wren]

Can't you theoretically use stones

[spare breach]

theoretically irl yes but PZ doesnt care so no

[pallid hinge]

dude even wrote a book

[ember elbow]

the OG Primitive Technology is literally just an australian guy doing it in his spare time initially and he still does other stuff. it's just him in the woods near his house lol

[sturdy wren]

@ developer plz fix

[pallid hinge]

exactly!

[spare breach]

theres like 3 tiers when it comes to the forges and whatnot, you can build a primitive forge, then move onto simple and advanced forges

[frozen wyvern]

New zomboid lore everyone who runs a primitive technologies YT channel is immune to the virus

[spare breach]

even for the simple tiers you already need stuff like actual concrete so its not the most accessible

i can imagine most players will stick with the primitive forges for a long time

[pallid hinge]

I read that as immune to citrus (before you edited it) 🤣

[frozen wyvern]

That explains why the moment the world ends we start mcguivering random shit together

[frozen wyvern]

Who's to say this isn't also cannon

[vague trench]

Bob vilas

[sturdy wren]

I would genuinely be down for primitive technology stuff if i were allowed to bring food

[real fox]

should i trust unlabled food can?

[pallid hinge]

I don't

[real fox]

where are saves stored at

[pallid hinge]

I haven't tried though

[hallow sail]

its just a randomized can of food

[real fox]

ill experiment lmfao

[sturdy wren]

User/Zomboid

[hallow sail]

it tells you what it is after you open it

[vague trench]

For science!

[pallid hinge]

C:\Users\youruser\Zomboid\Saves

[real fox]

NICE

[vague trench]

!saves

[frozen wyvern]

Doesn't the unlabeled food can have a tooltip saying DO NOT USE

[hallow sail]

i had an unlabelled can of food earlier that i think was just carrots

[vague trench]

Darn lol :l

[pallid hinge]

I found one earlier but I didn't open it

[vague trench]

Wat lol i been eating them

[sturdy wren]

I found an unlabeled jar and opened it and there was someone's lung

[pallid hinge]

[sturdy wren]

then i lost my job as a medic

[frozen wyvern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/v6yfC8PNBQc?feature=shared

[sturdy wren]

Mystery meat

Uh huh

[vague trench]

Yum mysterymeats

[pallid hinge]

So if I tow anything above gear 1 it basically kills my momentum and my rpms drop

doesn't matter the vehicle so far

[sturdy wren]

They added gearshift?

[pallid hinge]

Gears have been in since 38 or whatever

[sturdy wren]

what

[pallid hinge]

it is automatic, I am just using cruise control to keep in at 1

[deep dome]

with all the new books is it safe to safe to say generator magazines are so rare they basically don't spawn?
i've checked every library, book store, electronic store, and all storage lockers in every spawn town and then some.
I know they spawn well in houses but just for testing I haven't looked in houses yet, in my actual play through i searched rosewood and muld and didn't find any

[frozen wyvern]

Is there a mod that adds unlimited gears

[pallid hinge]

red box always indicated the gear you are in

[ember elbow]

that's just how towing works since always, you have to have enough torque to keep speed going or you'll lose power

[frozen wyvern]

Because if there isnt a 99th gear that's a travesty

[subtle tendon]

bro pz wont even launch on b42 anymore

[pallid hinge]

had no problem towing even bigger things with the dart before, even at higher speeds - now even with a truck it is struggling

[sturdy wren]

Isn't that just gear 0 at that point how little torque there is

[frozen wyvern]

I mean I think that's called 'parked'

[pallid hinge]

0 would be neutral no?

[sturdy wren]

parked and neutral are different things, apparently

[frozen wyvern]

Dude I'm a computer scientist not a car guy I dunno

Cars are magic metal boxes to me

[sturdy wren]

yeah me neither all my car knowledge is from gmod

[lethal wolf]

Anyone tested if they added more foraging zones for B41 areas which didn't use to have any?

[ember elbow]

PZ car mechanics have always been super handwave-y anyways, the Java mod that changes vehicle mechanics was basically the only option

[pallid hinge]

there was a devblog a while back that suggested they have - I have not tried yet

[sturdy wren]

Did they change foraging at all in b42

Outside of areas

[lethal wolf]

Alright, thats my testing ground for first proper forest survival. Since some here reckon you still need to visit places for at least metal (and possibly more) to be self-sufficient, dont wanna "spoil" the new areas for a save that might become broken soon(tm)

I think that lake had some broken foraging zones before

[pallid hinge]

fair! test and let me know 😄 here is the dev blog for you https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/06/the-biomic-man/

it is under Biomes/Foraging section

[sturdy wren]

The biomic man sounds terrifying

I was having a good night's sleep
Until the biomic man

[lethal wolf]

Ah, that blog where I started to properly hype for B42 and posting enough to make records in post counts

[bright glade]

yesterday I found a basement in a house that was a underground bar, was cool, had a little bit of alcohol

[sturdy wren]

Isn't there a basment layout with a camera pointed towards a bed

Project freakboid

[bright glade]

with how the normal loot setting is now a few bottles of alcohol is actually huge

well at least for the echo town

[bright glade]

ah yes, they were filming a scene in a movie there

[lethal wolf]

me using the 2nd worst (extremely rare, not counting "none"?) makes me think how on earth I can't find a needle but 2 sledges at the same event is gucci

..or a bigger bag than duffelbag

[sturdy wren]

There's a bigger bag than duffelbag?

[pallid hinge]

That is cause those are two different mechanics, I don't think loot settings effect road events

[bright glade]

you can craft a needle now if you can't find one

[lethal wolf]

??? duffelbag is like 18 units of storage, military pack is what, 30 or 32

[sturdy wren]

I thought big hiking bags don't appear naturally

[hallow sail]

28

[bright glade]

31 with organized

[pallid hinge]

they do - I have found two so far this playthrough

[sturdy wren]

Sorry i never found anything better than duffel and jolly pack

[lethal wolf]

I assure you hiking bags of both variety exist, and military backpacks that are even bigger, who knows if b42 added even more

[sturdy wren]

What does it take to craft primitive blacksmith stuff anyway

[frozen wyvern]

I hope that they make smaller bags have a use and not become immediately obsolete once you find a large backpack

[bright glade]

copper I think, and a lot of clay

[sturdy wren]

Funny pack are useful for meds and tools like screw driver

[frozen wyvern]

Fanny packs take their own slots so theyre different

[lethal wolf]

Wouldn't just putting everything in a military backpack be more efficient

weight reduction wise

[bright glade]

your smaller bags are still useful for loot transferring and hauling

[frozen wyvern]

I mostly mean for equipping

[sturdy wren]

They take faster to pull out from a funny pack

[lethal wolf]

fair enough, I guess it also means you can carry more on your person WITH a weight reduction of any kind, if your STR level allows

[frozen wyvern]

Like what if it took longer to put things in and take things out of larger bags but its quicker in smaller bags

I think that would be neat

[sturdy wren]

12kg mass limitation feels so limiting when you've survived for like a month and still can't find a backbag

[lethal wolf]

I guess one cannot craft a backpack then?

[hallow sail]

thats why u should start with stout and have a 15 kg limit

[frozen wyvern]

Sheet bag pog

[lethal wolf]

I spawned with 2 fitness 2 STR, 9kg limit life

[sturdy wren]

I'm eager to look at the perk rebalance if there was any

[lethal wolf]

its pain, cannot even fill a bag without getting encumbered

[frozen wyvern]

That comes later i believe

[hallow sail]

horrible horrible horrible

[sturdy wren]

Didn't they nerf shortsighted

[lethal wolf]

I can almost guarantee fitness and STR still level very poorly - and I didn't see any option to enable the bonus XP % for Fitness/STR vs B41, so I'm gonna be at low stats...for a long time

[pallid hinge]

I am using short sighted atm - basically if you are not wearing perscription glasses the screen is blurry

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah theres a visual thing now if you dont wear prescription glasses, and apparently sights on guns work less for yoy

[sturdy wren]

[frozen wyvern]

Hopefully they can make it to where any style of glasses can be prescription

[lethal wolf]

WTB a video that explains B42 strenght/fitness leveling so I can get at least to 5 each without suffering for months IRL

[sturdy wren]

So i need to ask the local zombie eye doctor?

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah

It would be cool if you could find an optomitrist NPC one day

[sturdy wren]

Also don't i drop glasses when doing parkour actions sometimes

Alternatively glassmithinh

[pallid hinge]

I have been collecting glasses

[frozen wyvern]

How they'd help you after society ends, im not sure, but it would be neat

[pallid hinge]

in case a lose mine

[sturdy wren]

They're hostile

[frozen wyvern]

Thank god everyone in Kentucky has the same prescription

[sturdy wren]

Not in a shoot you with a gun way, as in yell at you for letting your eyesight get this bad way

[pallid hinge]

I found two ambulences close to the army surplus store, so I am dragging this one all the way to the echo creek shooting range so I can try and draw them away

[real fox]

what are some good foods to gain weight that you can find in cities

i dont think i can live off chimken lol

[frozen wyvern]

Butter

[pallid hinge]

yea butter, lard, you said you hit 30 days so power just went off so if you can find melted ice cream before it goes bad

[frozen wyvern]

I havent gotten there yet but would it be hard to just churn a ton of butter and eat it to gain weight?

[pallid hinge]

cereal is good too

[frozen wyvern]

Especially since butter doesnt go bad

[pallid hinge]

lard too!

if you are close to a lake then fishing is great

[frozen wyvern]

We are so fucking awful to our characters

[pallid hinge]

[frozen wyvern]

'Butter is the most efficient food so you will now eat it for the rest of your days and read a comic book because it made you feel sad'

[pallid hinge]

read comics and pet your cows

[frozen wyvern]

I feel like the cow would remind you of the butter

[topaz epoch]

Did anyone find the glitch with the SCBA mask?

[pallid hinge]

glitch?

[topaz epoch]

Yeah if you remove the gas tank it duplicates

[pallid hinge]

gotta get pigs then to pet

[topaz epoch]

I have like 50 gas tanks

[pallid hinge]

oh wild lol, I have one but I haven't tried that

[topaz epoch]

Im not sure if its one of my mods so ill test on a separate world

[lethal wolf]

Is it possible to build an actual roof now instead of flat ceilings?

[severe egret]

Man thatd be tricky with the Iso perspective

[pallid hinge]

I am vanilla - just tested and it duplicated lol

[lethal wolf]

well, prebuilt houses often have a roof of some kind...

[topaz epoch]

Welp duplication glitch is true lmao

[severe egret]

They could maybe come with a way of doing it semi automatically. Where once you have completed walls itll put up gable joists n shit and you just gotta bring the mats

[pallid hinge]

I am gonna report it if you haven't!

[lethal wolf]

even something that artificially works like flat roof but using angled pieces to give an illusion of a roof, something, anything....building a fancy tiled lighthouse on an island on a lake - but have to put an ugly flat default brown wooden ceiling

[topaz epoch]

Yeah please do since Im new to the server and dont know where

[severe egret]

I dunno if youve played around with the tile editor at all but gabled roofing is pretty much all a well crafted illusion

[pallid hinge]

I mean they might not like your report cause you have mods, they want no mod reports idealy. No problem can do!

!bugreports

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[velvet egret]

[lethal wolf]

well I have not, but I have noticed well before that all roofing has a flat surface hidden within, or no surface, meaning you'll fall to your death. But I suppose with the advent of no more rooftop farming, I don't need to be able to access the darn rooftop anymore

So I might not even see the roof as I won't be accessing it from inside, sure I'll see the ugly flat roof from outside but eh compromises

[pallid hinge]

someone beat me to the bug report - but they didn't format it properly

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah i think they may have underestimated the amount of mods being updated like day 1 lol

[sturdy wren]

They should make it so that prescriptions vary from glasses to glasses

Some fix your personal eye issues some make them worse

[pallid hinge]

tbh if I were them I would have disabled mods for the start of unstable, but I think that would have just pissed people off

[sturdy wren]

Yeah why would you

[pallid hinge]

Because they want bugs to be reported, and they don't accept modded playthrough bug reports

[pallid hinge]

That would be interesting, but also pretty rough if your glasses got lost right at the beginning of a playthrough lol

[frozen wyvern]

Good thing mods dont have bugs

[pallid hinge]

[sturdy wren]

No, no glasses that you spawn this

[pallid hinge]

ohhh I see what you are saying

[sturdy wren]

You have to check all glasses you find, some make your eyesight worse, some better

Some make you nearsighteder, some farsighteder

[pallid hinge]

I found a 20 sided die 🙂

[woven beacon]

Has anyone noticed this yet?

[pallid hinge]

yeee, makes me hope they disable zombie respawns in apoc in the future

and just use mass migration as a mechanic

[woven beacon]

But like, have you pulled up the zombie pop chart and seen it happen?

[pallid hinge]

not yet, I haven't done much in debug yet but I should try it

[idle grail]

Or tone it down. I think theres still millions of zombies on the way to the edge of the map.

[pallid hinge]

now you both have me curious

but yea right now respawns feel a bit much

especially if you are trying to clear out an area that has high tier loot in it

[woven beacon]

I reckon default should be 0.05 respawn cell fraction instead of 0.1

Remains to be seen how migration will work now though

[pallid hinge]

So I just nuked the zombies in this cell near mili checkpoint and within a minute they are already trying to fill it back up

[woven beacon]

Hm but is that player loaded?

[severe egret]

Yeah this is no good. Thats pretty unnatural

[pallid hinge]

next test I will move out of the area to see

[woven beacon]

We dont know if its by a set time or date or whatever either

[pallid hinge]

true

[woven beacon]

I dont recall ever seeing this mentioned in any devblog so I got no clue

[pallid hinge]

It's something I always wanted in the game but yea they didn't mention it at all

[woven beacon]

Try turning it off and see what happens

It could be that its just the previous version of migration

I have a feeling thats all it is, theyve just given us the option to turn it off

[pallid hinge]

previous version of migration is still there to though in the sandbox settings

and that was just from other parts of the cell, not cell to cell migration

[woven beacon]

Ah I see

Damn this is really gonna make clearing towns even more difficult then

[pallid hinge]

yuuup

[woven beacon]

Do they only migrate to cells with a target cell pop

Or is it just any cell?

Because if its any cell you would expect them to eventually populate the forests

[pallid hinge]

looks like it is to empty cells so that it can reach it's target pop

[severe egret]

Which is determined by the heatmap

[pallid hinge]

so say a forest cell had 100 zombie target pop, you nuked those 100 and it will try to shuffle 100 more into the cell from adjacent cells

[glad pawn]

you can do that yourself tho

[pallid hinge]

of course

[severe egret]

It would feel more natural if they just made vehicles louder, and made zeds remember vehicle noises for a lot longer

[woven beacon]

@glad pawn Hes talking about apocalypse

[woven beacon]

Bruh vehicles are already super loud imo

[pallid hinge]

on an entirely side note, hey look I spawned a racoon

[severe egret]

Not even. I never bring any home cause of vehicle noise

[glad pawn]

you can do that lol

do sandbox, press the apocalypse preset, and then turn off respawns

there now youre playing apoc with respawns off

[severe prawn]

yaay

[pallid hinge]

the point is that apoc shouldn't have respawns, yea you can turn them off via sandbox but we aren't talking about sandbox

with the cell to cell migration mechanic it feels like there shouldn't be a need for respawns

[velvet egret]

😲 any orange raccoons?

[pallid hinge]

just gray - I am gonna have to make a custom skin

[velvet egret]

interesting

[pallid hinge]

ok I cleared another cell, gonna move away and speed up time and see

[hallow adder]

When are we going to start seeing people use the v42.0.1 game version build instead of the v42.0.0 game version build that everyone uses on Youtube?

[real fox]

got my first deer

[pallid hinge]

probably pretty soon, people gotta edit that footage they took the first few days

editing takes a long time, especially if you are a solo creator

[pallid hinge]

🎉

heck yea, someone is eating good tonight!

[deep bone]

👁👄👁

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[real fox]

lets see if i can make it to two months

[pallid hinge]

Do it!

[cunning turtle]

[deep bone]

[pallid hinge]

[real fox]

lmfao yeah chopping trees will do dat

[glacial cape]

Gl!

[hollow mica]

me waiting for the next minor update just so I can read the patch note and get my dopamine hit

[neat saffron]

its not

if theres a gripe i got about blacksmithing, its that we start out immediately forging with iron and iron / steel only

Copper is now an available resource, and its much easier to work with for new people

[lament crow]

Does anyone know if its possible to delete a corpse with dev mode?

[pallid hinge]

Yea you should just be able to right click->zombie->delete corpse - at least that is how it worked in b41

[left kindle]

guys how do I disable debug mode?

[pallid hinge]

Quit out of the game and remove -debug from launch options, launch game again

[lament crow]

do you actually mean the proper debug mode, or all the other debug popups?

[left kindle]

the popups

[hoary rampart]

Yo is AMD fixed yet

[left kindle]

like, when trying to rip clothing, clicking on tiles, etc

[cunning turtle]

F

[lament crow]

Ah, right thats not actually part of dev mode thats to help TIS with bug testing and reporting on certain actions/tiles, i dont think you can natively disable them, but if ur into mods someone has made a mod to disable said popups

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386442926&searchtext=debug+popups

[pallid hinge]

Ahhh yea I thought you meant actual debug haha

[lament crow]

also ecn are you sure thats how it works? i really need to get this corpse outta here lol

[pallid hinge]

That is how I did it a few days before B42 dropped on my server

When I get back in front of my computer I can take a look

[turbid gorge]

i really wish spears werent so pathetically fragile

[lament crow]

It wasnt quite there, but it was under another debug menu so thanks

[thick laurel]

We need a mod that give zomboid cod zombies sound

[lament crow]

Can you also use debug to fix windows? it might be out of the context menu

[lament crow]

I think there was one for 41, but might be a tad old

[pallid hinge]

Ahh gotcha, welp I tried from my bad ADHD memory 🤣

[pallid hinge]

Brush tool should be able to

[cunning turtle]

[lament crow]

where is brush tool?

[remote bear]

NOOOOOOOOO

[turbid gorge]

its hella stupid that they seem to have removed making sticks from planks

so spear making is now a lot harder and a lot more annoying as if they aren't made of tissue paper and break on 3 zombies

[lament crow]

@pallid hinge All good i found it, damn this is cool reminds me of tilepicker, can you get the names of tiles at all? cuz i think i know how to delete them if i dont like it

[hoary rampart]

Hey is the AMD related crashes fixed yet?

[glacial cape]

I haven't tested spears myself yet but maybe they're better with a knife? As you can maintain a knife better by keeping it sharp and the handles don't seem that bad go craft either

Also there's a stone spearhead you can make and an firehardened spear which seems a lot more durable

[red hazel]

I made a spear with a large knife. Terrible. Dulls way too fast. Went back to using a reinforced sheetmetal baseball bat. It's so good lol. Can one shot zombies

[glacial cape]

Damn that sucks, ive noticed hammers aren't too great either the handles break way too quickly although idk if the quality system is in yet

[red hazel]

I've been avoiding using anything with three condition bars to kill zombies lol

[left kindle]

guys, anyone know the default value of UI rendering fps?

[glacial cape]

maybe they get better with higher skill level? Kinda like how they were in b41 spears crafted with an lower mainteance & carpentry skill broke after a few swings

spears breaking after 3 zombies just sounds like how they were in b41 they might get better with a higher skill level but it might be related to carving this time?

[remote bear]

20

[glacial cape]

Idk just an idea could be a debug test for someone if they care about spears that much

[cunning turtle]

[left kindle]

thanks

[red hazel]

Could be. The large knife felt bugged. It stayed like 70% sharpness max. Couldnt go 100%

I couldnt sharpen it and when I did, it was max around 70%

[glacial cape]

Strange maybe it can only be sharpened so many times? Kinda like ho weapons can only repair a certain amount of times

[left kindle]

oh and, is tiered zombie updates on by default?

[glacial cape]

before the effectiveness is less

[red hazel]

Never sharpened and still 70% lol

[glacial cape]

Weird lol

[red hazel]

Also, I just found a trailer with 7 chickens in it. Can I just leave them in there to produce eggs or they need to be out?

and water?

[glacial cape]

you could let them out but without any zone to use they're just gonna run away and not produce eggs

they need a zone, 2 troughs 1 water 1 food & a chicken coop

[red hazel]

So theyll die in the trailer?

[glacial cape]

Not sure

[red hazel]

it has a food storage but Im not sure how to give them water lol. I threw a water bottle in there but idk if it'll work

ill just let them run around. Zombies dont attack animals anyways

[glacial cape]

you could mark the trailer and come back later, otherwise if you let them out they'll run

[red hazel]

I picked it up with my truck. It was at a car crash lol

Also, earlier I did a hard turn and saw the trailer doing barrel rolls on the ground. Not sure if that'll kill the chickens lmao

[glacial cape]

They're fine I had a trailer freaking out floating mid air and the animals were fine

[red hazel]

lol okay

actually, when I arrived on the scene, there was a dead one in the trailer. I just dont know if it was generated like that or it was alive and died over time

[keen gorge]

They'll die eventually

More often by thirst

[turbid gorge]

can you not wash yourself in rain collector water anymore?

[lament crow]

Could be a unstable issue, with a lot of other core elements not working properly but something tells me its intentional..

[glacial cape]

Sniffing correction fluid is peak pz! now we just need to be able to sniff gas

[left kindle]

I just ran over a chicken😭

[pallid hinge]

Noooo 😢

Guess you have dinner atleast

[lament crow]

u can also sniff glue with mods

[glacial cape]

playing strictly vanilla for now but I will be adding that lol

[hybrid frost]

Is there anywhere in muldraugh to find the crafting books for weapons, or do I have to travel to another town?

[turbid gorge]

as if the blood wasn't annoying enough bro

'no bro you need to waste time boiling 500 pots of water so you can have washing water' mean while you can wash in river

[pallid hinge]

There is a bookstore on the main strip you could try

[hybrid frost]

Bookstores don't seem to have them

[turbid gorge]

Why not

https://tenor.com/view/essp-enderblitz-galahad-slumber-party-why-isnt-it-possible-gif-25649259

[red hazel]

What do I do with a pet rat? One walked by my base and now it's my pet. What do they offer besides rat meat? lol

[lament crow]

try a libary or somewhere with a big book storage

[hybrid frost]

I've also been told libraries don't have them either, and my experience has agreed with that

[lament crow]

well i mean they said unstable for a reason im still not able to put a pot of rice together or boil and sterlise rags but yeah

[turbid gorge]

you seriously can't put small animals in the car with you

[pallid hinge]

They offer friendship 🥹

[lament crow]

hopefully issues like that are fixed in the next hotfix

[hybrid frost]

I've tried schools, bookstores, and a library

[lament crow]

OOH, you meant for crafting recipies not actual skill books, yeah idk how to help you there sorry mb

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shaking-dog-in-car-anxious-dog-funny-dog-dog-meme-gif-17278949089354768326

[lament crow]

i know in b41, i used to search a lot of trash bins and mailboxes for skill books

[turbid gorge]

totally impossible bro, cannot be done, against laws of physics

[lament crow]

I mean, if the animal is comfortable with you and is domesticated sure, but i dont imagine a wild animal will be too happy in a moving vehicle

[glad pawn]

I just think due to the situation working with copper would be redundant both gameplay and tone wise

[severe egret]

Aye this aint runescape

[remote bear]

God the Panic moodle is so annoying this update...

[pallid hinge]

it's not!?

[lament crow]

bro fr got scammed

[severe egret]

shocking i know

[remote bear]

It pops up like every second you see a Zombie then disappeaes when a Zombie goes away from your LOS but when you look at it again it immediately comes back up.

[turbid gorge]

how how do you transport animals and how do you get feed for them

[remote bear]

This is especially annoying when you're running around and the moodle pops back in and out repeatedly until it goes to Panic Level 2.

[lament crow]

what animal

[turbid gorge]

pigs and rabbits

tryna find chickens tho near rosewood

[keen gorge]

Pretty sure no

Unless you chance upon some survivor homes

[hybrid frost]

Very much not a fan of how rare the new crafting books are, and where they are limited to

[keen gorge]

I dunno I get enough of them

They spawn pretty frequently if you know where to look

[hybrid frost]

I survived for over a month in west point and found none, and now I can't even get any in muldraugh?

[keen gorge]

But yeah they don't spawn in libraries or bookshelves

Either that or they're massively weighted to spawn more often in gun stores and survivors

[hybrid frost]

I don't normally bother with gun stores cause I don't normally use guns, and there's only a few camping stores on the map

With the recipe books only spawning in a handful of places, this isn't going to enable servers to go for years without resetting like they want

[pallid hinge]

The survivor zombies that I have killed seem to have quite a bit of literature on them - all sorts of weapon crafting stuff

[glad pawn]

try looking in the basement of muldraugh pd

[turbid gorge]

im just summoning a stupid animal trailer with cheats fuck this

this game gatekeeps stupid basic stuff around certain items and its annoying

clearly man needs an electrical engineering degree or a special book to use a generator with technology as complex as... a lawnmower motor

clearly something far out of reach of the everyday average joe lmao

[severe egret]

down with the genny mag

[turbid gorge]

you can legit be delayed months by not finding that

[cunning turtle]

[regal spindle]

Wasn't half the point of some of the changes in this update to ease bottlenecks like that?

[fierce mountain]

Is there a new hotfix?

[real fox]

[fierce mountain]

Nice shooting point blank might be much better now.

[raw parcel]

nooo they didnt fix sodas or light

[hollow sonnet]

Patch notes?

[glacial cape]

on steam

[hollow sonnet]

Ty

[fierce mountain]

Very minor patch focused on guns.

[hollow sonnet]

Berry nice

[visual trail]

ohh yes new patchnotes !!

gotta love the guys they are moving fast

[elder flax]

Uhm, anny way to check in files when's the power/water shutting of?

i'm at day 24, still with power/water in apocalyps dificulty.

[raw parcel]

tfw no flashlight

i love daytime

[hollow mica]

can you please link it

[keen gorge]

Just open Steam you know

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/108600/view/498308432841933759?l=english

[hollow mica]

I'm bad at navigating steam lol, thanks

[heavy crown]

Construction worker foraging stones to bonk zombies is hilariously effective for a first week strat

Also helps you can just grab stones from certain tiles

[humble sail]

Can i use the hay in the barn to feed the farm animals with or am i only able to scythe up grass to feed them with?

A herd of deer spawned im my chicken pen.. 0.0

[chilly hawk]

is there any news about multiplayer?

[humble sail]

Doubtful

Id give it another week or so

[cunning turtle]

Next year

[subtle tendon]

can zeds eat animals or nah

[humble sail]

No

[past spear]

new hotfix and all the changes are to aiming 😔

[cunning turtle]

No what

[humble sail]

Animals may attract them and get stressed by the zombies but they wont eat them

[subtle tendon]

i think they are scared of them tho

[humble sail]

Yeah it decreases their productions

You can disable animal calls attracking zombies

[cunning turtle]

And now the muscle strain is 60%

[fierce mountain]

Multiplayer will come once they are happy with the state for single player.

[humble sail]

I turned off muscle strain XD

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[humble sail]

Couldnt be assed with it i hated it xd

[chilly hawk]

Could be in this year?

[cunning turtle]

Next year

[humble sail]

Prob 2025

[fierce mountain]

2024? No chance.

[humble sail]

Which isnt that long tbh

[chilly hawk]

uhhh

[fierce mountain]

We havent even got all the content for 42 yet. We just have to wait.

[cunning turtle]

Big dum knows

[humble sail]

Can i use the hay in barns to feed animals

[humble sail]

Frfrfr

[chilly hawk]

i really want to play with the boys

[humble sail]

The zomboys will have to do for now 😦

I bet that will end up being a mod probably, being able to pick up the hay in barns and being able to feed animals w it

[fierce mountain]

All of you can do a session watching each other stream the game and have a laugh about dying. Treat it as the fun solo runs. Mess about knowing it wont take long.

Outside of that either do build 41 or other games for now.

[chilly hawk]

[humble sail]

Loving b42 but the new lighting mechanic stressing me out 🥲

[cunning turtle]

Why

[humble sail]

Spooky

[left kindle]

guys, why am I constanly nervous?

[wraith rune]

Anyone know of any mod that adds multiplayer to B42? Expecting it to be buggy, just wondering

[humble sail]

Mood honestly

[humble sail]

Not likely anytime soon

[fierce mountain]

Its the only options. Just how it is. Remember the more bugs people report now the less likely its singleplay bugs in the MP bug reports.

[left kindle]

well, why?

[humble sail]

idk? just related ig

I got sad after reading a newspaper and ive never gotten rid of the moodle since xD

[left kindle]

I haven't done anything for some time, slept for a bit, rested on a chair, walked back to my base.....

maybe it's because it's the first day?

[humble sail]

Is your character claustrophobic or are you near any z's?

Those are the main things that come to mind

[left kindle]

nope

oh wait. I'm a smoker

[cunning turtle]

That's why

[left kindle]

sorry

[raw parcel]

i like basements but

[cunning turtle]

But

[raw parcel]

but i told my insurance my car was parked inside

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[humble sail]

Lol nws

[real fox]

Sleeeeeep

[subtle tendon]

bro why dont tv remotes work ingame :(

[red hazel]

So the chicken hut description says to close the door at night. What if I dont? Does it do anything?

[severe egret]

A meta fox may eat em

[humble sail]

Yup, or you can disable the option then it doesnt matter

very useful if you decide to make the chicken farm your temp base

So many chickens....

[cunning turtle]

find out

[hollow mica]

is this all there is to the Brandenburg bunker? I couldn't find any stairs leading down

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

F

[humble sail]

F

[cunning turtle]

is danny dude

[keen gorge]

March Ridge has the true bunker

[cunning turtle]

Why

[keen gorge]

I mean, go and take a look for yourself

If Z levels work, it would've been base material

[brazen jetty]

by default you get 0-30 days for power and water shutdowns
you just got very lucky, for me they usually disable water by day 3

[cunning turtle]

I'd like a spoiler tbh

[cunning turtle]

That means bad luck

[red hazel]

My water died very early on too. Power around day 9

[subtle tendon]

why are some drinks not auto drink

[elder flax]

Damm, first time it when on this long, ive played several playtroughs where it only lasted 12 days max, first time seeing it this long

also feels like i didnt hear anything on the radio about the shuttof, it just happened on day 26

[cunning turtle]

Great question

[subtle tendon]

I cant autodrink lemonwater?

[cunning turtle]

Nop

[humble sail]

my plan of action is to drive around in echo to find the best base area, kill and harvest the chickens in the chicken farm and freeze them after i find a generator

[subtle tendon]

real

[humble sail]

live off chicken meat for the next year

Theres SO MANY EGGS in the chicken farm

But i gotta find the base, generator, generator manual first

[elder flax]

its crazy how mutch they lay, like i got one who drops 2/day

[humble sail]

Actually no i already spotted a gen

[humble sail]

Yeah i think genetics come into play too no?

[elder flax]

deffo, can't see it tho, since i'm not even level 1 yet

[humble sail]

i wonder what day electricity will shut off, theres a lot of eggs ive got in the freezer and theres absolutely NO CHANCE i can keep all these chickens fed

Theres a stupid crazy amount of chickens here

[cunning turtle]

I just read chicken

[humble sail]

And a herd of deer in one of the pens

[humble sail]

Yup, heckin lot of them too

[elder flax]

raiding local farms for feed bags works out for me tbh, i have feed for months now

[cunning turtle]

Can u share it with me

[elder flax]

no.

[humble sail]

Sustainably i cannot feed/water this many

[cunning turtle]

[humble sail]

If i had to guess theres atleast 80-100 chickens here

[red hazel]

man, I only have 7 and zombies keeps scaring them off lol

[elder flax]

dont the feeding troughs catch rainwater?

[humble sail]

So atleast 3/4 i need to process so finding a generator to freeze them all is of utmost importance

[humble sail]

Probably im not too sure, besides id still need to feed 100 odd chickens lol

And a freezer with the capacity so id need to loot fridges 😅

[glacial cape]

Some animals graze as well, I've not given any of my pigs food and they're still alive

[humble sail]

I hope chickens can

Bc i have a lot of work cut out for me

[glacial cape]

I still got feed for my chickens so I'm unsure on that

[humble sail]

No way im able to feed all my animals with grass clippings

Can i use the hay from barns or is it decor only?

[cunning turtle]

Have you tried if you attack a chicken all the chickens will attack you like zelda, if you haven't tried it yet don't do that then

[elder flax]

Death by a thousand pecks

[humble sail]

I havent, no O.O, thankfully theyre all seperated into small groups in different pens

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[humble sail]

There needs to be a mod where we can use the barn hay decor as food for the animals...

[fierce mountain]

Thats why you grab it take elsewhere to kill

[severe egret]

Man.. the handiknife is an absolute game changer

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/link-zelda-cuckoo-illestzz-run-gif-16788331

[humble sail]

😭 🤣

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[brazen jetty]

radio's just stop any broadcasts
there are a few working frequencies but they are random
one frequency to work for sure is an emergency broadcast system that warns you about the weather and helicopter events

[elder flax]

Yeah, but in B41 you'd have a warning on the emergency broadcast saying something like: "power fluxuations etc" witch kinda warned you about shutof

might have missed it tho

[brazen jetty]

yes that too

[blazing coral]

reading the patchnotes from the latest hotfix... what even is jamming? as in firearm malfunction?

[cunning turtle]

I think so

[shell lagoon]

just found a rat king lol

the whole house is full of rat crap

[cunning turtle]

Omg

[raw parcel]

How do i cut a watermelon

[cunning turtle]

With a knife I think

[raw parcel]

I have sharp knife, counter, even board

[cunning turtle]

F

[raw parcel]

Ill just go back to exploring the map on noclip godmode

game is difficult in a bad way, feels like 2010 dwarf fortress

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[cunning turtle]

It seems you don't like the challenges then

[raw parcel]

im talking about the ui

[cunning turtle]

ui

[raw parcel]

look when i played df and had time to master its ui, i was a teenager

[glacial cape]

Is the watermelon frozen?

[raw parcel]

i dont have as much drive for these things now

[glacial cape]

can't cook with frozen ingredients they have to be thawed out first

[raw parcel]

no

[glacial cape]

I doubt you've taken a bite out of it have you? It might be weird like that

[wet timber]

What do you guys think about new nuclear bunker?

[raw parcel]

the option doesnt show up at all

not even in red or gray or whatever

[cunning turtle]

Oh

[cunning turtle]

Can u send a photo of it

[blazing coral]

did you look in the crafting menu? some things seem to only show up there

[raw parcel]

they rly shouldve qa tested more

[raw parcel]

oh

hold on ill check

damn youre right

think ill have ice cream instead

[glacial cape]

yeah slice watermelon is a recipe in the crafting menu under cooking, for some reason cooking recipes is down through there instead of the right clicking

Idk if its more annoying to use the right click menu or use the crafting menu for it

[raw parcel]

its far more annoying

[gleaming perch]

rare af

[raw parcel]

im surprised i could eat ice cream without having to first click on crafting menu to open the pot

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[gleaming perch]

tbh they did say they wanted to move as far from right clicking for interactions as possible

[raw parcel]

what a terrible idea

[cunning turtle]

I think coach king kalan is right

[gleaming perch]

its iffy i wont lie, the games relied on right click for like 10 years with no problems so this is a huge change

[raw parcel]

i dont understand why more clicks is better

they must be the same ones who designed GIMP

[glacial cape]

I think it worked fine for cooking personally

having both as an option would be great

but I do understand its not the best system

[raw parcel]

it certainly doesnt promote healthy eating

[gleaming perch]

Lol

they even made it so you dont need to right click to rest on chairs and beds, hitting e suffices now

[raw parcel]

yeah thats cool

but having to open a whole tab to cut my watermelon

[cunning turtle]

Like irl society

[glacial cape]

At least there's a shortcut key for crafting, can't say the same for the building tab or picking up furniture

[raw parcel]

pzomboid about to turn into starcraft with all the hotkeys

[forest shore]

How long do they stay good for though?

[flat phoenix]

Isn’t there a search bar in the craft menu?

[glacial cape]

Mods will fix most of the issues I have though tbf when I one day decide to mod the game again but I wanna enjoy vanilla for a while

[glacial cape]

there is but sometimes I don't know every recipe so I gotta look through the menus

[visual trail]

there is

[hollow mica]

"Set default sandbox jam multiplier to 0" does this mean that guns will not jam by default? that's a weird default value

[regal spindle]

Seems so, I imagine it's just for the moment

[raw parcel]

tbh guns do not jam that often do they?

[regal spindle]

Oh they were jamming constantly in b42

[cunning turtle]

Yeah

Katabolic knows

[blazing coral]

even the given pistol which was pristine would jam in the first mag

[humble sail]

They stay fresh for roughly 14 days idk if thats with ot without refridgeration

[regal spindle]

IRL most users of firearms civilian and otherwise consider them to have an extremely small margin for malfunctions before it's considered a complete piece of trash or to have some kind of major manufacturing defect or the user was doing something really incorrect using it

my favourite thing was when I had a pump shotty that jammed twice in a row, anyways, jamming as a mech should exist so maybe I'll set that new sandbox setting to .25 or .5 or something

[shell lagoon]

yoo the new military vest equipment things are dope aff

[heady field]

yea we got more protection gears

did they fixed m16 yet

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah
The Alice belt and suspenders are in my top 3 best gear pieces

[shell lagoon]

frfr

just found them

[hot grail]

Kinda sad that we can't attach the new flashlights to the chest rig

[shell lagoon]

you can to the belt tho

[remote bear]

DId this new update fuck up mod manager?

I had like errors and shit going off and all my mods disappeared lol

[shell lagoon]

i didn't found out yet what you can attach to the suspenders and the "backpack bottom" slot?

[hot grail]

Yes, but I prefer the chest rig lol

[cunning turtle]

Unstable version.

[remote bear]

I am aware.

[shell lagoon]

but i appreciate that there's now chewing tobacco in alternative to cigs

[cunning turtle]

Lmao.

[shell lagoon]

it saved my addicted ass character lol

[cunning turtle]

I think your addicted ass character will get lung cancer

Jk idk

[raw parcel]

guys the new flyers are so cool!!!!

[regal spindle]

new muldraugh police station is cool, even has a whole basement thing

[hollow mica]

[cunning turtle]

[heady field]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3389730149&searchtext=
for those who hate muscle strain lol

[regal spindle]

you can turn them off in sandbox settings so I'm not sure why you'd use a mod to do the same

[edgy kiln]

why is this needed lol you can just set it to 0 ingame

[regal spindle]

actually has a genuine survivalist use