Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[woven beacon]

Unless you're very very lucky

[hallow sail]

There better be 16 m16s in here

[turbid gorge]

its turned off

[forest shore]

Wellp this sucks. I may of just lost my save to lag?

[delicate rover]

I like the muscle strain but it felt too strong, I think I turned mine to 3/4 what it was in sandbox settings nd it feels pretty good now

[woven beacon]

Devs fixed it too

[turbid gorge]

i dont like connecting my nipples to jumper cables and want an enjoyable combat experience not torture

[woven beacon]

0.6 is just right

[forest shore]

Loaded in a cell and my game is now locked, I can technically drive but god is it slow right now. Feels like 1 frame every few seconds.

[vague trench]

where at?

[forest shore]

Appliance Store (Mad Dans I think?) That area. Where my base is lol.

[thick laurel]

Found abundant amount of weapons
No ammo

[forest shore]

Game is totally locked. I still have music and sound

[hallow sail]

thats a classic

[keen gorge]

Actually the reverse now

[vague trench]

like something in that area is dropping the fps or something?

[keen gorge]

I'm getting huge amounts of ammo but all my guns come from zeds now since gun stores give so few

[forest shore]

I get some lag spikes when loading cells on occassion, but this one totally locked my game up.

[pallid hinge]

same

[vague trench]

finally we find the people that took all the guns

[past spear]

oh hey, the build 42 tag on the workshop works now

[scenic gazelle]

anyone else having trouble towing stuff?

[vague trench]

you could try making a new char on that same save and go back to that area and see if its anything visible when you walk back into that area

[forest shore]

Towing another car or a trailer? Cuz yes.

[scenic gazelle]

I am towing a stardard vehicle using a heavy-duty one
it's been hell, can't move

[scenic gazelle]

Yes, yeah. I tried following logic
like a heavy duty vehicle is far more capable of towing something smaller/lighter than it, like a standard car
probably just bugged out

[keen gorge]

Well yeah

[forest shore]

I managed to exit! Yaaay

[keen gorge]

You're towing a heavier vehicle of course it would struggle

Oh no wait I read that wrong

[scenic gazelle]

yeah lol
I am using the heavy duty one to tow the standard one

Pickup towing a sedan, you know?

[forest shore]

I don't think heavy duty/standard/sport types make a difference. I think the only thing ocnsidered is HP but I could be wrong

[keen gorge]

Maybe the horsepower of your heavy duty is low. Vans can't seem to tow anything now

I'm pretty sure ambulances are basically the only heavy duty vehicles that can reliably tow something

[errant glen]

absolute unit

[scenic gazelle]

Imma try towing something even smaller then and see if it's bugged, but I doubt it

[hallow adder]

Nice, new game mechanic in Build 42:

Items can fall out your trailer if you drive recklessly. Shotgun dropped onto the road with a loud thud sound effect when banking a turn.

[forest shore]

I found the issue guys

[pallid hinge]

This was a thing in B41 as well, but only if your trailer was low health or whatever you want to call it

[torpid sonnet]

my playthrough pretty much got put on halt since I'm in the middle of the woods and can't purify water because its bugged

[forest shore]

Can anyone see the issue?

[scenic gazelle]

Man, it gets really fucking scary after the electricity gets cut off

[keen gorge]

Chickenpocalyse

[scenic gazelle]

and it's raining.

[forest shore]

Pigocalypse

[keen gorge]

Guess it's all animals now

[civic drum]

Cat eyes seems to really help at night time when you're outside. In a basement or inside though, it's worthless.

[hallow adder]

Is "banking a sharp turn and causing items to fall out" a feature in Build 41? If so, then I'll retract my statement.

[keen gorge]

Something about cloning

[pallid hinge]

quit out of the game, right click on PZ in steam, go to properties, where it says launch options type -debug, enter game and teleport yourself by right clicking the map, or spawn water

[forest shore]

...How tf do I fix this....

[pallid hinge]

Nope, it was just when it had low hp previously - it's good to know though 🙂

[hallow adder]

Alrighty, then do be careful about turning too sharply from now on.

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[hallow sail]

i'm losin hope guys

[torpid sonnet]

maybe I'll just spawn water coolers lol

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/dory-marlin-annoyed-keep-swimming-gif-15181112313672410314

[pallid hinge]

[pallid hinge]

are you trying to make your way to the boat?

[rare briar]

Why is it so hard to find smokes. It's 1993. They should be everywhere. D:

[hallow sail]

theres a boat?

[keen gorge]

So apparently it's most likely caused by some animals maturing

[rare briar]

Even the gas station lacks the cigarettes.

[forest shore]

I can say with 100% certainty it does deal with maturing. I had 1 Boar and 4 piglets in that pen.

[civic drum]

Walking Looting Guide for People Based Off of Kentucky 60 (Former Western Edge of the B41 map)
||-Coalfield: Numerous Antique Stove, rain collector barrels, animal troughs, ample cookware and knives; limited amounts of food and Old West clothing
-Meadshire Estates: Mansions/Wealth Housing, fantastic loot of all kinds, and usually high end, good condition cars
-Rest Area South of Coal Field (existed B41): Gun store, hunting/camping supply store, and fantastic loot in a small area, as well as some houses with nearly complete encircled fences
-MadDan's Den: Almost entirely fenced retail store, with some seeds, plants, and every type of furniture. Stock areas have good amounts of materials and some tools. No refunds. Burn down.||

[real fox]

they nerfed it from what it seems

[keen gorge]

So I guess the fix right now would be to murder the infants

[rare briar]

Hnnng.

[forest shore]

Kind of defeats the purpose of raising pigs at all

[real fox]

i chose fear of blood over smokers trait

[pallid hinge]

if that is brandenburg then yea there is a ferry/boat thing that people like to base up on

[real fox]

easier to manage and more points

[rare briar]

I love the RP of smoking. lol But I might have to ditch it.

[civic drum]

There are some incredible future faction bases in the new area for multiplayer.

[rare briar]

I've spent more hours than I'd like to admit running around looking for anything to smoke.

[real fox]

ive only found like two packs of ciggies in muldraugh town

[hallow sail]

i'm assuming its also flooded with zombies?

[civic drum]

Get yerself some tobacco seeds and grow it yourself.

[scenic gazelle]

Does anyone know if you can clean yourself with a bucket in pz?

[real fox]

and thats me clearing half the mamp mostly

[rare briar]

This may have to be the way.

[dusk plume]

I've been doing some exploring and Medshire seems like the new Riverside golf club gated community

[pallid hinge]

I would imagine so, but I am not sure - I haven't been there in B42

[keen gorge]

I dunno there's a lot of ways to smoke now

[civic drum]

No. The only ways to clean yourself and clothes currently are in rivers and lakes, or pre-existing amounts of water in bath pipes. You can also clean only yourself in puddles during rain.

[dusk plume]

But theres loads of large farm houses around it too

[scenic gazelle]

Oh nice, thanks
luckily it's pouring outside

[civic drum]

Better! It's not as spread out, lots of open grasses for farming, single access point, and all the houses have lots of storage space.

I really wish I had based by the river so I can have clean clothes. I think when this current character dies, I'll go for the mechanic's shop east of West Point as my next base.

[dusk plume]

Have they not fixed plumbing yet?

[keen gorge]

Nope

[civic drum]

No, and I looked at modding in a fix, but there's too many moving parts, and the liquids system is clearly incomplete.

[scenic gazelle]

what are these used for anyway?

[keen gorge]

It's not particularly easy to fix because they overhauled how liquids handle

[keen gorge]

You can put some angled flashlights on them

[real fox]

whats wrong with plumbing right now

[keen gorge]

Keeps your hands free

[scenic gazelle]

really nice.

[civic drum]

You can't plumb rain collectors to sinks/tubs/showers anymore. You can't wash yourself or clothes in containers or rain collectors.

[dusk plume]

Wouldn't you just make the water barrel and the sink share the same liquid inventory?

[real fox]

shieeeet

[keen gorge]

I imagine that's not what goes on in the backend

[dusk plume]

That is 100% something that should be added

[civic drum]

Yeah. I based super inland, and regret that a bit because of that. ESPECIALLY since discomfort and disease seem to be tied to illness.

Cleanliness in general is apparently tied to getting sick.

[dusk plume]

anyone know where water barrels are located in the media file for PZ?

[civic drum]

I took a look at this with some advice from the mod development crew, and the issue is that the sink/tubs are still B41 "objects," meaning that they behave the same as B41. The rain collectors are the new things, which they call "entities." Getting them to interact in the B41 manner is something I couldn't figure out. I also tried reverting the rain collectors from entities to objects, which forced me to reinstall my game.

[dusk plume]

right, hopefully someone works it out or TIS are right on it after Christmas, because that is a huge gamebreaker for me. Can't even wash yourself in the rain collectors? And they expect us to play a long term playthrough

[wet cargo]

there are still many bugs that need to be fixed so the game can be playable

[hallow adder]

You can lose it. Don't worry about it.

[wet cargo]

and its probably gonna take a long time for them to get fixed but who kneos

[civic drum]

It's definitely a problem, but there are a handful of workarounds. For cleaning yourself, you can use puddles. For cleaning clothes you have to use rivers and lakes, but they do function to do so.

I saw someone claim that there's a "detergent" thing that's required to clean clothes with the new containers that can be found or handcrafted, but I've seen no actual evidence of that.

[hallow sail]

can you not clean yourself in the rain collector itself?

[scenic gazelle]

Anyone figured out which items can be attached to a backpack bottom?

[dusk plume]

It's a bit of a milestone for me to get my barrels up and plumbed in, so I guess I'm a little salty about it.

[civic drum]

Nope!

[civic drum]

Bedrolls and tents

[scenic gazelle]

Huh, didn't know bedrolls were a thing, thanks

[dusk plume]

Could there not be a mod that adds the 'Canwashclothes' Boolean to the tile code? (I'm not at all experienced with Lua, I started yesterday)

[civic drum]

I'd say it's playable, but there are things that need to be worked around as is. Truth be told, the cleaning thing is the only issue I've really had besides matter duplication of pots and bowls.

[civic drum]

It's not quite that simple. Or if it is, I'm not bright enough to be the one to figure it out.

[fierce mountain]

The plumbing system has a replacement in the works which is related to previous mods if you have seen the pipes in mods for minecraft thats basically what is coming. Its not in this version of build 42 I presume when it comes sinks will be replaced which means a fresh save.

It was in one of the earlier thursdoids same will likely occur for generators as they will get ventilation pipes so we can have them indoors.

[glass widget]

are rain crates bugged? cant build one despite having necessary materials (shows garbage bags are missing)

[fierce mountain]

Its why plumbing is broken because they do not plan to keep it its being replaced with a more advanced system.

[keen gorge]

They shouldn't be

[civic drum]

Yes, but if you look at hte Thursdoids, neither of those features are listed as coming for B42 now or later. From what I've seen, the current issue is getting plumbing to work with the new means of liquids, and doing things like mixing liquids in the plumbing.

[keen gorge]

I literally just built one a few minutes ago

[dusk plume]

Do you have the link to the thursdoid talking about this

[hallow sail]

why are military canteens only 500mL?? why would a plastic water bottle have more storage

[glass widget]

thats weird i wonder why its bugged for me

[keen gorge]

It's on the build menu under outdoors

[fierce mountain]

It was shown off as a part with machinery aspects so I am presuming its coming in this build as its related to more advanced machinery lemme find the thursdoid its in.

[civic drum]

It might be, but it's not listed in "WhatZ Next." My assumption is that they intend on getting the old means working in the new system before hitting plumbing. I think that one of the devs was in here a couple days ago and mentioned that pipes and wires are something that they're looking at doing, but is a distant future goal, not an imminent one.

[fierce mountain]

I am presuming its a part of the crafting system as liquid is a part of this system they have partially introduced to us.

[dusk plume]

talking of machinery, I went to that new electronics factory near riverside. The new machinery tiles look exciting. I wonder how we'll power whole buildings in the future, because powering a factory with a generator is sily.

[keen gorge]

There seems to be code for alternative power sources

[forest shore]

Maybe a larger trailer generator in the future?

[dusk plume]

Even that would not power a whole industrial building.

[blazing coral]

maybe not at once but a few machines maybe?

[forest shore]

A generator trailer could power the machines we need to use I think.

[dusk plume]

What would be the point of that. They'll add some static generators you connect to the buildings.

[dim venture]

very sick

[fierce mountain]

That was a part of the video it was showing a steam turbine being fed by river water still searching

[forest shore]

I looked it up - the trailer generators push out like 100kw. That is.. A crap ton.

[vague trench]

i remember seeing someone use generators like spread out lol it was so funny

[visual trail]

muscle strain wasn't also mentioned until recently, they have stated in a blog way back that systems like heat, water, power can be functional again after the shut-off using machines etc, there was a video of steam boiler teased

[fierce mountain]

https://youtu.be/fcMlwffzvuw
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/09/sky-high/

[waxen spade]

This is lovely

[fierce mountain]

I am looking foward to what they reveal to us as they are trying to ensure it works as properly as possible we have had some issues with this start of build 42 but its not a broken crashing mess. They have taken their time to ensure it releases as smooth as possible. I am just keeping water on for ages until we get the new system if its possibly to carry over if not its fine to restart

[civic drum]

Just need a garage, some more roads, and a couple more animal pens, and I'll be set.

[pastel herald]

Did the patch just made the webbing invisible when wearing a sweater?

[real fox]

so im seeing to avoid breeding rn due to animals duplicating themself to high hell rn

[civic drum]

True, but none of that was mentioned in WhatZ Next, which leads me to believe it's probably a lower priority.

[visual trail]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/08/the-connection-is-made/

[keen gorge]

There seems to be issues with animals maturing

[fierce mountain]

It was the previous thursdoid 😆

[hallow sail]

what problems?

[dim venture]

well there was “???”

[civic drum]

I mean, I hope I'm wrong, I'm just saying, it wasn't in the most recent stuff, so I'm not particularly counting on any of it any time soon.

[keen gorge]

If an animal matures from juvenile to adult, it causes it to basically clone itself

[hallow sail]

delicious

[dim venture]

the fact that plumbing is turned off shows they’re planning to for unstable wouldn’t you say?

i don’t see them turning off a system that’s planned for b43

they would’ve done so for b41 in that case

[keen gorge]

I'm talking FPS/game crashing levels of cloning though

[hallow sail]

[keen gorge]

Like literal hundreds spawning out of thin air

[civic drum]

Sure, but after taking a look at what would actually need to be done for it to work, it makes me dubious that the plumbing itself is coming soon, as it's going to take what appears (to my admittedly inexperienced eye), a lot of work just to make it function B41-style.

[cunning turtle]

[turbid gorge]

ohhhh yeah

im gonna move here i think

isolated and lots of room for animals and farming

[civic drum]

Good choice, my current character spawned there, but the dirt road causes heavy vehicles to get bogged down and stuck when they've got a lot of weight.

[fierce mountain]

Thats true but it seems this code was easy to make. We might get a simplified system of it or we get plumbing return and this comes in build 43. It is likely someone searching the build 42 and modding can make a working system of this already.

[turbid gorge]

vehicles need a big buff driving offroad man

project zomboid vehicles have the wimpiest horsepower

[hallow sail]

its mainly the bushes

[keen gorge]

(Don't) aim for the bushes

[civic drum]

I mean, I tried and the guy who made the plumbing mod tried too I think, or at least someone did besides me, and couldn't crack it.

[fierce mountain]

could be related to not yet added items in the crafting system that is coming soon?

Since we havent got everything that was shown in there yet.

[civic drum]

Maybe, but like I said earlier, the sinks/tubs/showers still function with the same properties as they did in B41, while the collectors and containers have a new system that was brought in in B42. It's hard to get the two to interact.

[hallow sail]

I CAN SEE THE END!

[fierce mountain]

Then I see this is very likely a transition phase which they are going to finish in the new year and release to us when its ready then. I see saves breaking at that point.

[civic drum]

The easiest route to create a temporary fix which allows a person to wash in the containers as a seperated feature from the sinks/tubs/showers.

So no plumbing, but at least you could wash in a barrel.

I couldn't figure out how, but someone might be able to.

[cunning turtle]

Dayum

[opaque schooner]

You can cross the bridge in lv now too

[fierce mountain]

Hopefully that will occur then maybe it requires a new handler which they left out to ensure more important code issues were resolved for now.

[civic drum]

That was one of the first places I hit in my current character, and I had to retreat after the last of my weapons broke at 200 kills.

[hallow sail]

i looted the back room of the brandenburg community center and got like 10 baseball bats from it to fuel this mission. i've gone through about 3 so far and this crowbar is in shambles. my long blunt is 4

[civic drum]

My current crowbar has racked up 300 kills on its own, and it just became worn.,

Crowbars are the best.

[hallow sail]

mhm. this crowbar im using just got me over the 2k kills line on this character

[civic drum]

Oh, and since 12 hours have passed since the last warning: Crop can die as seeds now, with no warning or visual change.

[hallow sail]

i also found a scrap metal sword in the side of one of the zombies. a beast must've made it

[queen shadow]

Do wells not provide clean water anymore?

[keen gorge]

I need to test combat maintenance more

I could swear you gain more XP if your weapon loses condition and not the reverse now

[hallow sail]

this is the strat, team

[dusk plume]

When is the true music mod going to be updated, I need my Pearl Jam at 100mph down Louisville Highstreet

[hallow sail]

found 2 m16s, and like 6 boxes of ammo

[flat phoenix]

I dont think so, I noticed that yesterday

[fierce mountain]

I think open wells dont but the pump wells do. (Just a guess not actually been to one of the pump taps yet to confirm it its at least at one farm near echo creek I think)

[heavy crown]

A starting point in maintenance is more mandatory than ever

[keen gorge]

Thank god for debug

So combat maintenance did change

[lethal wolf]

Anyone figured out if starting weapon skills matter as much as before, if we got skill book for weapons now

[latent zinc]

I see

[keen gorge]

It seems to give more XP now if your weapon loses condition

[hallow sail]

the skill books are so damn rare. they still matter

[lethal wolf]

I noticed any skill book is rare, not just weapon skills ;_;

[heavy crown]

My gamer in queue have you tried getting skill books in b42

[lethal wolf]

Why do you think I was asking if I knew the answer

[hallow sail]

yeah true, but the weapon skill books are BADDDD

[heavy crown]

Finding books is so hard there’s going to be a lot of book-free grinding unless there’s an across the board loot bug/design that’s getting fixed

[keen gorge]

Here's the gains for crafted spear at 5/5. 11 hits before getting broken

Then the gains with the crowbar

[queen shadow]

Thats... disappointing. I sat all smugly on my farm with the well when water went out. That together with the rainbarrels being difficult is kinda really whack

[keen gorge]

So we come to the ironic point where spears are S tier for maintenance and crowbars are F tier

[hallow sail]

guys i think i am john zomboid

[dim halo]

anyone know what this means?

[knotty yew]

I don't know but I can give you my interpretation of it

sounds a little like how many zombies on the screen the game will let render at once'

[flat phoenix]

I think it means if there is more than 300 zeds in your cell, they will start to delete. I think its a performance setting.

[dim halo]

like before the zomebies stop rendering so you get the black outlines?

[queen shadow]

I think its how many zombies are in a call before the game deletes them for performance reasons?

[knotty yew]

I don't think it's about rendering their visual appearance

if I had to guess it's about rendering them from virtual into "real" zombies

[dim halo]

this cant be it at all. otherwise this wouldent happen

[knotty yew]

zombies that can hurt you, break objects, etc rather than ones that the game says are "there" and will path towards sounds and move randomly/in rally groups

[dim halo]

hmmm

[flat phoenix]

Not sure if it applies on SP but in MP zeds will delete if you go above 500

[knotty yew]

is that more than 300?

hm looks a bit like it but I ain't counting allat

[dim halo]

im not counting, looks like at least 10

[scenic gazelle]

Is there a way to manually change gears?

[spare breach]

Does anyone know whether i will lose the machete blade if the whole weapon breaks? I know that usually all you get from broken weapons is the handle so just wanted to ask. Ideally i'd repair the machete but for some reason i cant increase the condition with duct tape or anything else for that matter

i'd try to sharpen it instead because it is VERY dull, but the prompt stopped showing

[turbid gorge]

i think professions need a skill buff tbh

[cunning turtle]

Does anyone

[turbid gorge]

like a carpenter should start off with like level 7 carpentry

what kind of carpenter builds shitty level 1 carpentry walls and crates and furniture

theres no way they were getting paid for that shit pre-apocalypse if their skills were that bad

your profession should at least put you past the halfway point of a skill tree in that field

[knotty yew]

I've always felt like at least level 3 or 4 would make sense at the very least, I agree

[pallid hinge]

Annnnnd... My power went out - day 29

[knotty yew]

honestly that's not a bad time

[dim halo]

i aggre but not quite that much, maybe more like 4 or 5

[turbid gorge]

you're a professional my man you should be quite good at it lmao

[knotty yew]

mine lasted about that long and tbh usually in my saves it goes out after week 1 lol

[pallid hinge]

yea could be worse, I just haven't been able to find a genny mag

[lethal wolf]

So, without barrel/container washing, you need a river now?

[turbid gorge]

the cap on VHS skill learning and removal of dissassembly XP are easily the worst changes of build 42, total nerfs to grinding that nobody asked for

just inflating the time it takes for no good reason

now to get good in carpentry you have to waste buttloads of nails you don't have

[real fox]

looooot

[knotty yew]

are you sure there aren't any recipies that don't require nails that have a decent yield?

[keen gorge]

There's also cartons of nails now on the loot table

If anything, I'm running out of easily accessible planks than nails

[hallow sail]

trees....

[knotty yew]

sweet house basement lol

[hallow sail]

DAYUMN

[keen gorge]

I'm in the middle of the city. Nowhere near any trees

[knotty yew]

also had an antique oven in the other room

[hallow sail]

louis?

[keen gorge]

And I already disassembled basically all furniture near me

[worthy elbow]

Guys, can I create Army webbing or just find it?

[pallid hinge]

I don't recall seeing one in the crafting list

[vague trench]

is that like a alice thingie?

[pallid hinge]

It's one of those vests that have all the pouches and stuff

like this

[vague trench]

I found some alice pack thingie in riverside on some zomber if that helps , when i equipted it it gave me like 3 slots lol

[raw parcel]

light propagation

is a major issue

[worthy elbow]

I need the webbing to use the flashlight (angle headed)

[raw parcel]

this is as far as the sunlight goes in a building

[vague trench]

ill keep eye out if i notice an , i think its cool we dont have to go to military checkpoint now for things like that

[marble arrow]

wakana pc do you need to even boot it up 😭

[tawny orbit]

how i remove this chicken's house

[pallid hinge]

probably sledge

[raw parcel]

honestly its annoying having to use a flashlight at noon in so many buildings

[soft viper]

Yeah it's a major issue

Z level light propagation too

[raw parcel]

that + flashlight inflexibility

double whammy

[soft viper]

It also gets dark af at night

Like it would make sense, but only if the moon wasn't present for the entire playthrough

[heavy crown]

Cat's Eyes is mad strong for seeing outdoors at night. Does nothing for indoors though.

[raw parcel]

at least at night you can just sleep

[soft viper]

I had to turn up gamma on my pc to see its effects so idk about that

[raw parcel]

most playstyles dont involve night time exploration

but the lighting system as it stands severely hampers daytime exploration

i understand that industrial buildings with few windows will get dark

but an apartment complex is NOT dark during the day

[scenic gazelle]

Is this even in riverside?

[raw parcel]

in yellow, expected path of light

[scenic gazelle]

it's an annoted map btw

[raw parcel]

forget about buffing melee, please buff the sun

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-him-gif-7042948485213753465

[scenic gazelle]

In my experience, it depends
in my apartment the windows have tint, so half closed it gets dark
like blackout curtains

[real fox]

ok i know this might be off topic but i wanted to share lmfao

[raw parcel]

i have seldom seen tinted windows in residential buildings

and i doubt these were common in rural kentucky in 1993, frankly I doubt they are in 2024

[real fox]

I have a praise the sun tattoo lmao

[raw parcel]

irregardless the window itself does not apply anything to the light, i tested this by breaking the windows

[pallid hinge]

😍

[scenic gazelle]

OH TRUE
I forgot the game is set in '93
I completely agree with ya

[pallid hinge]

That is awesome

[real fox]

i agree with you on the sun part tho

some buildings feel unaturally dark during the day

[raw parcel]

fire station in rosewood, theres two windows

yet the garage is shrouded in darkness

[thick laurel]

Minecraft

[raw parcel]

its not a bug that many people notice since you need to survive long enough for the power to fail

[scenic gazelle]

I see
honestly I was too busy dealing with the new combat mechanics to really notice how buildings got darker, even during daytime
your post brought my attention to the matter

[raw parcel]

but it absolutely fucks with long term playthroughs

[real fox]

food market design makes me think whole foods when i look at it lmao

[scenic gazelle]

iirc there are no battery chargers, except for car-batteries
right?

[raw parcel]

the little batteries you use in small devices are not rechargeable no

[glacial haven]

lol, it might actually be whole foods but changed for copyright

[scenic gazelle]

are torches a thing? haven't seen any

[real fox]

I THOUGHT I WAS TRIPPING

[pallid hinge]

definitely whole foods vibes

[real fox]

like it looks so similar haha

[raw parcel]

yeah theyre a thing but their use is limited due to low power (the light doesn't travel very far) and they cant be used hands free

[glacial haven]

it even has the little mini roof haha

[scenic gazelle]

whole foods? wdym?
I am not from the US, probably an inside joke

[raw parcel]

its a chain of stores

[heavy crown]

The difference is huge, from testing debug mode at the exact same time

[scenic gazelle]

I see, I see

[real fox]

whole foods in the midwest look like this here in the states

in the west coast when i grew up there they tend to look slightly different

[real fox]

YEEEE

[scenic gazelle]

Damn lol

[raw parcel]

lmao, upscale food stores really do look the same everywhere

we have the same stuff in France

[thick laurel]

Is there a mod that turns all zomboid into femboid

[real fox]

LMFAO

[thick laurel]

wrong server oops

[pallid hinge]

if there isn't, there will be LOL

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/glerm-glorp-cat-erm-gif-116397764024710755

[raw parcel]

variant of the zomboid virus laced with atrazine

[sleek hinge]

I have one point. Should be somenthing in the cars like "turn on lights inside the car." So, it would be possible to read in the night.

[raw parcel]

turns all infected female and/or gay

[thick laurel]

But then your dad will crash

[raw parcel]

dome light sorely needed yeah

cant really be nomad as it stands

[sleek hinge]

Also, sodas is the most OP thing right now hahaha

[raw parcel]

unless you haul a generator for light

[real fox]

REAL

[thick laurel]

RV run in B42 will be crazy

[real fox]

like soda is meta for not being sleepy, caffiene pills are useless compared to soda

[raw parcel]

you can easily fix the soda bug

[vague trench]

i think i saw artimedias say she was runnin almost 3 days no sleep on soda lol

[sleek hinge]

And hungry

[pallid hinge]

soda is gonna get nerfed for sure

[vague trench]

yar i dont even bother picking up caffine pills lol

[raw parcel]

devs set 1000mL of most soda flavors to reduce hunger by 500%

[sleek hinge]

Yes, me also. No hunger and no need to sleep

[raw parcel]

so yes it will get nerfed, probably down to 5% reduction

[real fox]

soda fr got that coke in it

[raw parcel]

maybe a little bit higher

[vague trench]

yah i was worried about like not never sleeping lol but i was like whatever ill just slam these until nerfed and get things done

[raw parcel]

i mean you can always mod the bugged values back to 500%

just set fatigueChange = -5

like it is currently

[ornate parcel]

If you set night brightness to something lighter than default, does it affect the chronically dark interior of blacked out buildings too?

[raw parcel]

or disable sleep in sandbox settings

[raw parcel]

i tried, it doesnt work

[ornate parcel]

Damn

[raw parcel]

i also looked for some convenient file to modify to fix the light propagation

no dice, maybe I just suck at modding

[lethal wolf]

my 2 fitness 2 strenght character gets tired like 4pm at latest without anything to boost him with

[raw parcel]

well he's unfit as fuck

[vague trench]

yah i think once soda gets fixed it will be perfect for that lol

[raw parcel]

soda ideally shouldnt have any effect it doesnt have irl

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/take-on-me-dark-souls-80s-synth-pop-gif-12031484

[real fox]

yessss

[vague trench]

lol thats so old

[raw parcel]

the caffeine and sugar content in soda may be high, but it's not going to resuscitate anyone from sleep deprivation or exhaustion

[lethal wolf]

yeah I figured low fitness means you also get tired faster, not just exertion or strain

true zero to hero semi challenge

[raw parcel]

tbh the game is weird with fatigue (tiredness)

i think it ties it with body temperature or something

[gleaming perch]

what happened to soda

[severe egret]

The lamp light here should be pretty much completely drowned out by indirect daylight coming in window

[gleaming perch]

The hotter you are the more tired you become

[vague trench]

you can just drink soda and never sleep lol

[pallid hinge]

If you consume it, it completely removes exaughstion atm

[gleaming perch]

holy

[lethal wolf]

well good thing I have plenty of soda cans

time to dilute my sodas

[vague trench]

yah go find some its pretty funny

[vague trench]

LOL wait does that work lol can you like use one can and mix it with water and still get the same effect?

[lethal wolf]

I have no clue, should have said "time to dilute my water" but that sounds weird

[pallid hinge]

you can, apparently you can set it up so there is just enough caffiene in it with water that you can auto drink too

[vague trench]

LOL

[spare breach]

the way zombies travel seems different now, i see zombies migrate to far greater lenghts

[pallid hinge]

they can travel from other cells now

[spare breach]

thats awesome

too bad that's working against me at the moment, as i wanted to visit a small warehouse but there was already like 50 zombies hanging around

so i went inside my car and honked a few times while driving away, hopefully that'll move them

[pallid hinge]

pretty much lol

[raw parcel]

autodrink doesnt apply the buffs

it just rehydrates you, i tested this on current hotfix

[gleaming perch]

my friend was playing as some marathon runner who was hired by P Diddy to run across the Event Line and destroy the stash of evidence against him in the Muldraugh basement evidence room

[pallid hinge]

oh really? I saw people talking about utilizing it that way last night

[raw parcel]

autodrink doesnt seem to handle mixed fluids well

i dont think they updated that feature with mixed fluids in mind

[pallid hinge]

interesting

[oblique cradle]

was there any timeline given for multiplayer availability?

[gleaming perch]

No

[oblique cradle]

👍

[vague trench]

lol me just saying "wtf" to my monitor lol

[vague trench]

id wait until it comes out on stable i think most people playing mp probably want crafting to be more in a workable state

[raw parcel]

development will probably be slow until early january

we'll probably have more news after the holidays

[pallid hinge]

welp rosewood gas station and power relay were a bust 😦 - no genny mag for me

[gleaming perch]

FR I want the new traits, professions, and crafting to be smoothed out

[raw parcel]

id be very surprised if they pushed hotfixes this week

[gleaming perch]

I really want the stuff from the 'Connection is made' thursdoid to come into fruition

Being able to use steam power energy to power and make your own soda is really cool

[raw parcel]

i wish they updated the map on the B41 build tbh

[austere pewter]

😔

[raw parcel]

even if it's sans basements

[main jay]

Any news on whether dropping bags when vaulting is a bug, or feature?

[raw parcel]

seems to only drop bags off the left hand

[keen gorge]

That was always a feature

[pallid hinge]

pretty sure it is a feature - same with going through a tiny window

[raw parcel]

havent tested it extensively

[keen gorge]

Even back at B41

[main jay]

Used to only be tall fences

[raw parcel]

nope, you used to be able to vault with bags in both hands and keep both bags

[spare breach]

just read a electrical skill book and go disassemble the whole town

[pallid hinge]

only when going over a tall one

[spare breach]

im at electrical II from disassembling shit alone (so far)

[raw parcel]

im leaning towards intentional, albeit undocumented change

because i dont see how you could possibly introduce such a bug

[pallid hinge]

I just found electrical II book - so probably end up doing that

[spare breach]

yep 👍

[main jay]

I like the idea, but I think we now need a quick pickup button

So you can quickly reach back over and pick something up, rather than having to go through menus while in a rush

[raw parcel]

tbh i really hope they eventually write up a proper changelog

it's often hard to discern what's working as intended

and what's just bugged

[main jay]

Yeah

[keen gorge]

I actually just figured out looting items off corpses gives your character depression

[main jay]

Oh?

[raw parcel]

what

this must be why my char is sad for no discernible reason

[main jay]

Makes sense

[raw parcel]

i always take off jewelry, force of habit

[gleaming perch]

Romanians

[raw parcel]

i thought it would maybe be due to smell

[gleaming perch]

same LOL I took some dudes wallet for his money and I instantly became sad

[keen gorge]

I kept testing and retesting since yesterday to cross off everything

I first thought it was something about smoker

[raw parcel]

man

[gleaming perch]

Smoker just increases ur stress to the max now

[keen gorge]

Then it turns out my guy just doesn't like hand me downs from zeds

[raw parcel]

i mean, you have to hand it to the devs

it's so unexpected so im just laughing but it's actually brilliant

on the other hand the game should really communicate better

[wet cargo]

sleeping baga

[keen gorge]

Stress gives unhappiness though so I had to cross that out first

[lethal wolf]

Its rural Kentucky, you pull yourself up by the bootstraps, no goverment handouts or european "communism" allowed

[raw parcel]

they should remove the happiness debuff for burglars

[spare breach]

dude is out there analysing everything, you're doing the gods work thank you

[keen gorge]

Also crafted spears are ironically S tier now for combat maintenance

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, I am trying to find one

[spare breach]

fire hardened spear is amazing

[keen gorge]

Seems they changed it so that you get more XP if your weapon condition goes down

[real fox]

weapons

[scenic gazelle]

Does anyone knows if this is in riverside?
I think it's in Louisville

found this annoted map with a bunch of zombie soldiers

[vague trench]

me when i cant find my purse i found lol

[keen gorge]

You can just check by zooming out but the layout seems like Louisville

[real fox]

is on top right of the map?

[civic drum]

Really? I haven't really noticed anything. Without electricty, most of the light propagation I've seem seems reasonable enough. That mall example seems particularly egregious though, I agree. On the flip side, I play with Cat Eyes, so I wonder how much of a difference that makes.

[scenic gazelle]

think it's a feature, becasue when you climb tall fences, you also drop whatever bag you were holding

[raw parcel]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/75229-light-system-feedback/

[real fox]

yeah^^^

[scenic gazelle]

hold on, let me check

[raw parcel]

cats eyes makes no difference indoors or during the day in general

[lusty dirge]

I think its one of the new cities

[raw parcel]

my gripe isnt with night time exploration, it's night, it's dark, whatever

[turbid gorge]

they removed generators fuel countdown?

[lusty dirge]

ekron

[scenic gazelle]

Well shit, it's in Louisville.

[spare breach]

that is really good feedback

[raw parcel]

none of the pics were taken in LV

the mall is crossroads mall

[lusty dirge]

I think its ekron

[raw parcel]

bumfuck nowhere aside from the mall, so no "light obstruction from high rises" (such obstruction is not modeled anyway)

[turbid gorge]

do generators not work on basements?

[pallid hinge]

nope

[spare breach]

ive heard that they dont, yes

but i havent confirmed anything

[scenic gazelle]

Aye, I just replied to the wrong person
nice feedback btw

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-mario-walking-gif-7966847823215482947

[keen gorge]

Doesn't work, something about them not penetrating Z levels

[gleaming perch]

The firestation feedback doesnt make sense

[silent dragon]

this is why i use the generator time running mod lol

[gleaming perch]

its 2 small windows where the sun isnt facing it, its valid that the light doesnt hit those furtnitures

[raw parcel]

sun doesnt work like that in the game

light propagation is the same in all orientations

you can see for yourself easily

[jade haven]

So...does that dyslexia-accessibility font actually work?

[stray nymph]

Does anybody know why my character is continuously stressed? I have no smoker trait. The stress piles up no matter what I do.

[raw parcel]

also the windows arent particularly small

[gleaming perch]

yes they are

[heavy crown]

Do you have Fear of Blood trait?

[raw parcel]

theyre the exact same model as the majority of the game except LV

[stray nymph]

Also not. I just ask if someone is experiencing the same.

[gleaming perch]

its a pretty big garage so I kind of see why the entire garage isnt illuminated by light

[heavy crown]

Have you gotten hit by a zombie recently?

[cunning turtle]

F

[raw parcel]

its pitch dark in the bottom of the garage

light doesnt stop propagating so fast

its not even pitch dark 1km under the sea surface

[stray nymph]

I got hit by a bull.

[civic drum]

Fair enough, I guess it just hasn't really come up in my playthrough.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[civic drum]

Except in the McCoy buildings I guess, but those were windowless warehouses, so it felt like it made sense.

[scenic gazelle]

any zomboids around your house?
have you been around zomboids for an extended period of time?

[spare breach]

i get stressed if i keep overexerting myself, i.e. repeatedly hitting something for a long time. I dont know why

[raw parcel]

warehouses it makes sense, theres few openings for light

[stray nymph]

Nope. It's just always happening when I am inside.

[cunning turtle]

That's weird

[raw parcel]

most buildings designed to have people, not things, inside, are fine to navigate during the day irl

[scenic gazelle]

claustrophobic maybe?

[spare breach]

this seems obvious but have you picked that one trait where your character fears the indoors?

[stray nymph]

I didn't pick any negative trait

[cunning turtle]

Oh

[scenic gazelle]

did you get hit by a zomboid?
you can be anxious because of that

[stray nymph]

She always gets stressed and it piles up especially during sleep. Then she wakes up panicking.

[scenic gazelle]

nightmares

[cunning turtle]

She has ptsd

[scenic gazelle]

Nightmares are a thing

[stray nymph]

Haha

[spare breach]

a nightmare maybe, or muscle strain / injuries and the subsequent pain waking the character up

[vague trench]

for me it does like if a r and n are closed by together its easy to tell they dont look like a M n stuff like that , i have a big monitor so i have the font pretty large so its pretty nice on my end

[stray nymph]

Well... I hope they didn't implement any more stuff to punish the player.

[spare breach]

i think it may be one of the things i listed

[raw parcel]

@civic drum it only starts being an issue when power fails, but it really influences how the game is played

[scenic gazelle]

I hope they rework Emotions once NPCs hit
being depressed is no joke

[stray nymph]

It is really annoying reading magazines all the time to calm her down.

[raw parcel]

for starters, you never get to actually see much of the interiors, so the worldbuilding etc suffers

[vague trench]

i wonder if it goes away like how panic does after a while

[civic drum]

Yeah, power's been out for me for a while, but most of the buildings I've explored since have been houses and much smaller.

[vague trench]

well not away but yar

[spare breach]

no i agree, the lighting needs to have a better "spread"

[severe egret]

Funny thing is, im pretty sure these types of generators had instructions printed on them 😅

[raw parcel]

and/or they should add windows in apartments that dont have many

like the apartments above the shops in rosewood

[keen gorge]

Buff the sun

[vague trench]

lol

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/sun-bring-the-sun-swans-michael-gira-to-be-kind-gif-12707479609148049642

[scenic gazelle]

all light sources are directional?

[raw parcel]

the sun is not directional

east, west, north, south facing windows get the exact same amount of light always

[scenic gazelle]

I know...

[raw parcel]

artificial light is directional

[scenic gazelle]

I meant literal light sources
flashlights, torches

[raw parcel]

yeah flashlights will only illuminate the direction youre facing

[scenic gazelle]

what about lampterns? kerosene ones

[raw parcel]

small circle around you for matches

[hallow sail]

after my week-long raid of the military checkpoint at brandenburg, my pigs all grew up!

[raw parcel]

didnt test the lanterns etc

[scenic gazelle]

I see

[real fox]

im so scared of raising livestock lmfao

i dont want pig or sheep apocalypse lmfao

[vague trench]

lantern not sure if im supposed to spoler lol

[raw parcel]

some same as flashlight

[vague trench]

lol oinkocalypse

[raw parcel]

or about the same

[silk nova]

sadly we cannot place them an turning on/off

[scenic gazelle]

that's nice
my flashlight arc is not that wide

[raw parcel]

ah yeah youre right, flashlight is narrower

[vague trench]

yah tat would be nice would be cool for nice camping ambience

[scenic gazelle]

I am using the smaller one

[silk nova]

not only also for illuminate areas without waste geneartors

[raw parcel]

so lantern is meta

[hallow sail]

anyone know how to get pigs to breed?

[lofty laurel]

How do you make mac and cheese anybody?

[scenic gazelle]

does the lantern burns with gasoline/kerosene?

propane?

[raw parcel]

propane i think

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Propane_Lantern

[keen gorge]

You refill them with those new propane bottles

[scenic gazelle]

Nice
iirc there are ways to fill up empty propane tanks now
I've seen huge tanks somewhere in muldraugh

[pallid hinge]

The meta is just bring a generator with you any time you want to explore a building

[vague trench]

the hurricane one so far just been using gas

[raw parcel]

whats odd is that the 2d model clearly implies it should illuminate all directions

[vague trench]

which is REALLY nice

[scenic gazelle]

Nice, thanks

[raw parcel]

yet in game it only illuminates forward

[vague trench]

more of a reason to scrounge for fuel from cars n stuff

[scenic gazelle]

Also, which lightining update you guys are using?

[vague trench]

what do you mean

[scenic gazelle]

it says 15 is the recommended, but I am not sure
i am using 30 rn

[raw parcel]

refresh rate

[scenic gazelle]

this

[raw parcel]

i guess

[pallid hinge]

I am using default lighting update

[vague trench]

i have it on 60 , does it matter ? would it be better to put it on 15 for unstable?

[raw parcel]

id just go as high as possible and see what happens tbh

my screen is 155Hz

[scenic gazelle]

Not sure really
gonna try 60

[worthy elbow]

Guys, what kind of items can I put in the backpack bottom?

[pallid hinge]

tents or sleeping bags

[worthy elbow]

Nice

[pallid hinge]

🙂

[real fox]

what does this do

[glad pawn]

There’s a mod that makes better flashlights

[thick laurel]

My grandchildren will get to experience Project zomboid B142(real life)

[raw parcel]

do you know the name?

[keen gorge]

Better flashlight

[scenic gazelle]

It's the refresh rate, lower values makes the beam have some sort of delay

I am keeping mine at 60

[keen gorge]

Keep in mind though better flashlights not updated for B42

[scenic gazelle]

smoother flashlight beam

[glad pawn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3389781770

Also get the hand cranked flashlight mod

[raw parcel]

oh wow perfect

i can finally hear in the dark

[cunning turtle]

[edgy kiln]

i think it basically only affects flashlights

it used to affect the vision cone before b42

[hybrid frost]

Am I just unlucky, are weapon crafting books super rare, or do they spawn somewhere different than other books?

[keen gorge]

You mean the magazines and schematics?

[digital cloud]

night terrors

[keen gorge]

I don't think they spawn in libraries. As far as I tested, they seem to only spawn in at gun stores, camp stores, and survivor homes/zeds

[civic drum]

This seems to be correct, I've only found weapons books at gun shops.

[spare breach]

dude im playing on fairly low population + no zombie respawns and somehow theres a group of like 100 zombies on the countryside near a small warehouse and a few houses

pretty insane, even with slightly lowered muscle strain multiplier this is going to be tricky

[vague trench]

got it lol

[woven beacon]

I have found the Holy Grail on my second day

[vague trench]

lol is that just in a night stand?

electricians night time reading

[digital cloud]

💀

[pallid hinge]

1 month 2 days in, no luck for me

[woven beacon]

Haha it was in the magazine shelf on the right

[vague trench]

lmao

[woven beacon]

This is the egg house too so right near the echo creek gas station

[vague trench]

i hate crawlers now lol why are they the worst

[red hazel]

What's up with my flashlight batteries draining? I got a stack in the backpack and they're draining without even being used lol

[pallid hinge]

known issue

[red hazel]

ahh okay

[scenic gazelle]

MFW the water and lights are cut-off in Day 13.

[visual trail]

the car batteries are behaving strange too, I've charged one to 100% and after two days it died.
Best option is to leave the car engine running atm

[vague trench]

yah i think they know about that one , had that happen on 100% charged it and it went to 30% for no reason lol

[lethal wolf]

jeez, 11am and my character became tired after 4 zed kills

[visual trail]

I initially thought the house alarm battery setting changed all but It doesn't affect them I tested later

[woven beacon]

Mfw I already have How to use generators

[vague trench]

yah nah i dunno what it is i tried messing around in singleplayer but i couldnt recreate the problem

[stray nymph]

Don't tell me they implemented that seriously as a feature.

[vague trench]

maybe the sodas are eating all the energy and yah thats why lmfao

[woven beacon]

Actually it'd be more like this

[pallid hinge]

been a thing for a long time

[digital cloud]

it had been

[visual trail]

wasn't the screwdriver....

[vague trench]

i think it has been a thing just wasnt really working , i never really experienced it lol

[pallid hinge]

❗

[digital cloud]

yeah maybe once and didn’t notice

[scenic gazelle]

Me too, but I am low on gas
the goddamn helicopter pilot did a funny while I was filling my gas-cans and brought the horde to the gas-station
now I don't have enough ammo to clear the horde and I don't have enough gas to lure them with my car

[visual trail]

apparently if the item is set to favorite the context menu or crafting option is not available

[scenic gazelle]

Been living off siphoning wreckages on the road lol

[visual trail]

you must unfavorite it to bring up the context menu....

[lethal wolf]

Alright lads, how does one abuse soda? Drink ANY amount to fully wipe out fatigue?

[scenic gazelle]

I drank a cola by accident, only worked with cola for me

[lethal wolf]

I got a 2L bottle of cola

[vague trench]

yeah even 1/4 can remove it lol

[scenic gazelle]

diet one also works iirc

[digital cloud]

no way

[lethal wolf]

so diluting in water works, if you manually drink (autodrink doesnt work?)

[scenic gazelle]

Meanwhile, Coffee Liquor doesn't affect your fatigue

[vague trench]

yah lol if i had a soda id try my chars being a baby and tired cause i slept on the ground

[digital cloud]

that would have been useful when i was eating freaking 3000 caffeine pills which dont work for shittttt

[pallid hinge]

Ahh that makes sense - see I set my watch to favourite because the first time I disassembled my collect of watches I disassembled it right off my wrist

[vague trench]

wait really?

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, unfortunately

[vague trench]

lol doesnt that have a lot of calories too , liqour n beer?

[visual trail]

the screwdriver was set to favorite not the watch...

[pallid hinge]

oh weird

[scenic gazelle]

I am trying to get fat by drinking a lot of beer, gonna make my results public in a bit

[pallid hinge]

gotta report that one for sure!

[visual trail]

yup I'm guessing a bug

[vague trench]

lol

[pallid hinge]

irl or in game?

[lethal wolf]

Time to figure out this shit and make myself a 0,0001% potency water dispenser with cola flavour

Doesnt autodrink because dispenser, dispenser of infinite energy

[digital cloud]

you are so smart

[scenic gazelle]

IRL I can't lost 5 kg in 3 days
which is unfortunate

[hallow sail]

guys they all gave birth

[scenic gazelle]

I literally went from 80 kg to 75 in 3 days ingame

[digital cloud]

adhd pig 💀

[lethal wolf]

not sure if sarcasm, but this is my first time using the liquid transfer system and I thought why not try if it works

[digital cloud]

soda dispenser is so smart omg

[hallow sail]

he was my first male. got off the trailer stressed without a single zombie in sight for days. destroyed my fence for pleasure

[digital cloud]

the lore is deep

[lethal wolf]

rip

[hallow sail]

hes calmed as hes gotten older

[lethal wolf]

You cannot refill dispensers now?

[exotic wolf]

how do you move the water holder portion?

[digital cloud]

nooo

[pallid hinge]

When I stopped drinking pop/soda in 2016 I lost about 4.5kg in a week (I have not consumed it since)

[real fox]

take the bottle out, refill, and then put it back in

[digital cloud]

this

[lethal wolf]

trying to figure out how to take bottle out, science in process

[real fox]

right click on it and this :

[lethal wolf]

oh LOL, "Take Bottle" means the container

the wording made me think it does something else

[digital cloud]

ooh

[real fox]

yeeee wording took me off guard at first

[digital cloud]

i need updates it this works it’s peak

[vague trench]

can you fill that with milk lol

[lethal wolf]

I'll add ANYTHING at this point to fill it to the brim

as long as 20ml of cola is there!

[vague trench]

lol

LMAO HOLY CRAP can you fill it with just soda LOL

[pallid hinge]

[vague trench]

hurry do it before it get nerfd

[lethal wolf]

I HAVE A GAS CAN FULL OF WATER, WE'LL see if this works

[vague trench]

man i just drang my soda too and i grabbed one of the bottles

[pallid hinge]

With zombies being able to migrate from cell to cell I hope they turn respawn off for Apoc - it just seems silly

[digital cloud]

did the dispenser not work

[lethal wolf]

still experimenting, going to fill the dispensers to the brim, 20ml of cola, 9,98L of water

[digital cloud]

try like .0000001 cola so it gives you 1 fatigue minimum

[lethal wolf]

20ml is the minimum I can

[digital cloud]

ok

[lethal wolf]

but that leaves 1980ml of cola in the origin container

[digital cloud]

chug

[lethal wolf]

is this just me, an european re-inventing Bud Light? mostly water?

[digital cloud]

shush

[lethal wolf]

Before I chug. The transfer liquids menu says dispensers can hold 15L of liquids, but the info panel shows 10L. Bug?

[vague trench]

ahahha

[lethal wolf]

Let the holy grail of infinite energy tasting commence

[digital cloud]

the holy grail

does it work???

[vague trench]

LOL

yah does it work lol

[lethal wolf]

I think my character is not thirsty enough, cus it remains at max capacity, let me run around in the summer sun

[digital cloud]

drum roll 🥁🥁🥁

[lethal wolf]

Absolutely nothing happens. The dispenser remains full but my thirst went away. I have invented infinite clean water.

[digital cloud]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[lethal wolf]

My tiredness remains, but thirst is gone.

[digital cloud]

damn it and it still had water??????

[lethal wolf]

so apparently cola can be abused to keep dispeners perma-full of clean water, but no tiredness exploit

[red hazel]

Found a carton of eggs. Looks like it doesn't rotten if all the eggs are in the carton. I decided to open it to check and they werent. Just cant make it into a carton again like nails and screws lol...

[digital cloud]

maybe the infinite fatigue was the friends we made along the way

[vague trench]

lol for science guys

cola so strongk it cleans

[lethal wolf]

But it confuses me still. The container of the dispenser claims it has 15L of volume, but when it's in the dispenser, it says 10L. And for me, it says specifically 9,98L of water (as 20ml is cola), so it doesn't drain either?

So either I am stupid and blind somehow, or this is an infinite source of clean water via dispensers. Maybe if I pour some of this mix to a bottle?

If a man offers you this, run

[real fox]

Portable crack

[vague trench]

lol better than jet fuel

[lethal wolf]

Is there no way to drink manually from a water bottle, since I only see autodrink enable option

[pallid hinge]

If you disable autodrink it should give you the option

[lethal wolf]

Right, I have increased the amount of cola in my water, to see if higher cola content actually wipes out all fatigue, as 20ml doesn't seem to do anything

[vague trench]

colamaxin

[hallow sail]

anyone know how to help sick animals? or sickly?

[cunning turtle]

What about 100ml

[lethal wolf]

Added like 200+ml of cola, but as I think a portion just to sate my thirst, tiredness remains. Or is my cola actually a layer that doesn't mix with the water and my character will drink the cola last after all water is gone??

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-dc-hmm-thinking-gif-4575661

[lethal wolf]

The amount of cola, the lenght of the bar doesn't change as I drink, but the water layer does.

[vague trench]

ah so its not actually like mixing

[lethal wolf]

So I ask you americans, what poison do you feed to your kids if your cola doesn't mix with water?

[vague trench]

just sugar water like a bee

[severe egret]

I guess the only actual mixing they implemented yet is color

[cunning turtle]

Good question

[lethal wolf]

With these scientific discoveries, it seems like the fatigue meta is to pour full cola to smallest possible containers, so you can just drink 1/4 of the container to ensure longevity of your soda storage

I hope ya all are happy, this science cost my character his mental health, now depressed and extremely bored

[cunning turtle]

[autumn pier]

Vision and hearing impairment:

[autumn pier]

Yeah that sounds real nice until I realize that with the revamped heatmaps, getting in and out of the towns and cities will be a nightmare

On the bright side, the roads outside will be mostly clear

[slim merlin]

Do helmets impair your hearing?

[scenic gazelle]

It worked. turns out beer is rich in PZ calories, enough to help me gain some weight if I stay home doing minimal work lmao

[vague trench]

lmao thanks!

[vague trench]

so like irl lol thats great

[lethal wolf]

It turns out even most severe depression goes away when you dismantle endless crates in McCoy warehouses. But boredom doesn't.

[vague trench]

LOL

[lethal wolf]

this game operates in whole another level in b42

[vague trench]

"im so happy to dismantle" has anyone gotten a cold yet? i got one and it went away in like a day lol

[lethal wolf]

hmm male zed with a strapless bra on while his...breast is quite visible as he is shirtless

[vague trench]

haha

[quartz narwhal]

I have the impression that the shooting system has remained as in version 42 but only the game interface has changed or am I wrong?

[frozen wyvern]

No it's completely redone, for the better if I say so

Shooting isn't just point in the general direction anymore, it calculates actual ballistics now

So try and aim for the head for real now

[vague trench]

its way better now i think just wip

[frozen wyvern]

I wonder how well it will work with controllers, I'll have to try it

Yeah and Lemmy said they can do other stuff like throwing rocks and stuff in the future so it's exciting

[vague trench]

when can i throw rat poo

huck this lil mouse lol

[lethal wolf]

Upon further testing, if I open a cola can, drink first quarter out...then fill the missing liquid with water. It still removes tiredness, but doesn't seem to affect the volume of the cola inside that much, as if you're drinking part of the water, part of the cola, or just the water.

[vague trench]

lol

[shell crystal]

Milk a lot, I'm dont know how can I use this, i know only make butter

[lethal wolf]

We must unite our strenghts and become a blossom of a new art, Pilkomancy

[hearty pond]

freeze it! Keep it for later, and maybe turn a cow or two into freezer volume

[lethal wolf]

Our potent spells include Mend Bone Density, Refresh Self

[remote bear]

Anyone else finding Riverside being a terribly hard starting point for some reason?

I've had like 2 bad luck starts in this town.

[dim halo]

check trucks, its worth it

[hearty pond]

also, music instruments make for a hell of a weapon, they are surprisingly durable for smashing things in

[cunning turtle]

Try one more

[remote bear]

I tried one recently before I went back into hyperfixiating on my mod, I seem to do slightly better on my second run.

[cunning turtle]

That's nice

[autumn pier]

They do iirc

[vague trench]

is that regular loot settings lol

that must be a camper story or something

[autumn pier]

If I can at least clear out rosewood commercial street, I’ll feel a little bit safer

I’d be better off building walls around it though

[wet timber]

Those camo trucks even spawn Military surplus in them

[vague trench]

but thats just default loot settings too ?

cause thats awesome if it is lol

[wet timber]

I don’t think so

Wrecks don’t have „stories”

Wreck is a story itself so

[sturdy wren]

police trunks in general had a shitload of stuff in b41 oftentimes

[wet timber]

It’s B42

[sturdy wren]

yes i'm bringing a comparison

[wet timber]

And they don’t have that many items never on standard even on B41

Boosted loot or bait, only options

[sturdy wren]

i had like 3 firearms in 2 trunks

[wet timber]

It’s nothing compared to this

Guns in police cars are common

[sturdy wren]

i'm sorry the image doesnt load i genuinely have no idea what is there

[wet timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1318684957526458450/1320569538084868137/image.png?ex=676a13b8&is=6768c238&hm=ed4f511e5f954a79c6f13ec43aca5f1b04f4eb6558613e04f5f8b7112b92b3d7&

Now?

[sturdy wren]

holy hsit

[vague trench]

right lol

[wet timber]

Hahaha

[digital cloud]

aaand you need to chill out

[vague trench]

is there ammo in the cases too

[wet timber]

Yeah

[sturdy wren]

sleeping bags?

[wet timber]

But i don’t play on these kind of settings, too wild

[wet timber]

You can attach them to backpacks

[sturdy wren]

are the forests still full of zombies for whatever reason

[wet timber]

Nope but Muldraugh forest is other story lol

[dim halo]

no

[vague trench]

oh okay lol , thats cool you can customize it that well

[dim halo]

there was a gun there 12g shells and an asortment of 10 ammo boxes

[sturdy wren]

what are mementos?

[dim halo]

funnyaly enough, abundent is marked as 3.0, the max you can set in 4.0 tho

[dim halo]

spiffo plush

things like that

[vague trench]

the fun stuff!!

the bestest stuff*

[sturdy wren]

shouldve set it to 4

and haul spiffo plushies

[dim halo]

i could...

[vague trench]

who self combusted lol

[scenic gazelle]

there's this "survivor vehicle" configuration
you found one, bet the truck is in good condition too, right?

[dim halo]

no.

[scenic gazelle]

did you pop the hood? appearances can be deceiving

or it's just a wreckage?

[dim halo]

it was all shit

[scenic gazelle]

goddamn, never seen that before

awesome

[dim halo]

reminds me of the uhh like carpender trunks or something

[rich shuttle]

Is it just me or is the weight gain/loss system bugged? I think my character has downed like 5 steaks in one day and I'm still going down in weight apparently

[cunning turtle]

You need more calories like cornflakes or peanut butter

[rich shuttle]

Dang, gone are the days where I can eat two tubs of ice cream and gain weight 😔

[autumn pier]

Ngl, shotguns feel nerfed by B42

[cunning turtle]

[autumn pier]

https://youtu.be/NBA14hQEoOg?si=ShjG4xWFboqe4_TQ take a look at this video btw

Then again, it gets getting used to when you remake the way you aim n shoot in your game

imo I still think horde burning is the best way to clear hordes

Course, they did actually change fire mechanics in B42

[winter imp]

best way but boring. Doesn't add to my zombie kill count

[autumn pier]

Fire now burns grass and can even burn forests

Means if you’re not extra careful, one small fire could burn down a block

Even just a little bit of grass

Another reason to cut grass besides looks now

[autumn pier]

Good thing we got killCount for that 😎

[cunning turtle]

We're cooked

[hot grail]

TIS please make an extended loading theme for us HDD users

[autumn pier]

I don’t think existing forests will burn down, but developing forests (like one ones behind the CDDA house) are capable of burning down (and even taking neighboring houses down with it)

[real fox]

survived my first month ever holy shit

[vague trench]

[cunning turtle]

Ohh that's cool, I haven't tried the fire yet

[cunning turtle]

Claps

[real fox]

My goal is to clear this stupid town

But there’s so many Zs

I barely made it out the police station haha I almost got bit

There’s a cute farm outside the city I might want to base up at

Semi near water as well

[cunning turtle]

Did you disable the zombie spawn

[real fox]

No, but I made respawn time low I think

Or low amount not sure

[cunning turtle]

Well good luck then

[real fox]

I know I won’t fully clear it but I want to make it so I kill enough zombies it’ll give me a week or so maybe to clear most of the important buildings

Then when they start spawning back in slowly I can clear some of the richer houses and then dip

[gleaming perch]

Unable to craft mace heads through the crafting menu, I assume I need it craft it at a forge now?

[digital cloud]

dawg how do i get carp xd

[real fox]

building

[digital cloud]

i have carp 0

and what’s the best for minmax

[real fox]

they turned off xp from disembling, but if u create a sandbox you can turn that xp from disembling on i believe

[digital cloud]

rahhh ok

[real fox]

im semi new to the game so im not sure about min maxing im mostly roleplaying rn

[desert spire]

Can't seem to build a rain barrel with trash bags. Have all the items, but for some reason doesn't count the trash bags.
Anyone else run into this?

[true smelt]

I managed to survive the CDDA 🥲

[gleaming perch]

im so glad they removed xp from disassembling in default settings

its gonna make mutiplayer carpentry/metalworking leveling up way easier

[cunning turtle]

To be semi new in the game you have survived a long time lol

[cunning turtle]

[real fox]

also does anyone have any info on the new generator types?

[remote bear]

I like ur neatly organised safe house

[vague trench]

llmfao

[remote bear]

Being killed by your own animals is another dumb way to die 😄

[vague trench]

aahah

[cunning turtle]

Dayum

[wet timber]

How long till MP drops?

[real fox]

😼

[velvet egret]

no one knows at this time

[wet timber]

How long did it take for B41 to move into Beta stage from unstable if you know?

[remote bear]

Not long after it got released on unstable actually... I think that must've been around 4 months after?

[cunning turtle]

When I was around in that play time I survived for long time too, but I got bored and started to play mp lol

[wet timber]

Thanks

[cunning turtle]

Next year

[remote bear]

Let me see.

[remote bear]

Actually exactly 1 month after it was released Unstable 20th December.

[cunning turtle]

I have faith

[gleaming perch]

They'll probably move fast to release the beta stage

[remote bear]

Wait I lied.... B41 unstable was Oct. 19th 2019 and Stable release was december 20th with MP.

Soooo.... estimate could be anytime within 17/12/24-20/12/25 timeframe.

[cunning turtle]

What a lier

[remote bear]

I'm sorry

[cunning turtle]

[vague trench]

lol

[wet timber]

Nooo!

[real fox]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-persona-3-persona-3-reload-misinformation-gif-2736390499350685280

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[remote bear]

I honestly cant believe it... Project Zomboid is almost close to being 1.0

[wet timber]

Wait what’s the current version?

[real fox]

stable or unstable?

[remote bear]

Stable 41

[cunning turtle]

I'm lost

[remote bear]

Unstable Beta is 42

[remote bear]

I mean it more figurarively. Looking at the graph we are closer to 1.0 Stable Release but it still will be a few years from now.

[cunning turtle]

Next decade

[remote bear]

I've seen this game been updated since 2011.

It is honestly such a journey.

[scenic gazelle]

So... wearing bloody/dirty clothing will make you queasy/sick

[cunning turtle]

Interesting

[sturdy wren]

Even when uninjured?

[cunning turtle]

2011? That's hard work fr

[scenic gazelle]

very.
time to go on clothing washing trips
thankfully I am in riverside

[scenic gazelle]

Yes, I spent 3 days with bloodied/dirt clothing and just got the moodlet
didn't get scratched or generally hurt

[sturdy wren]

Did they do anything to the houses northwest of west point

[remote bear]

Yeah, this game almost did not exist after 2011 because their Laptop containing majority of their content was stolen

Imagine a world without Project Zomboid...

[sturdy wren]

They added jerma phobia:(((

[scenic gazelle]

I thought a flood fried the computer

[remote bear]

[sturdy wren]

they started using cloud repositories now i hope :P

[cunning turtle]

Ohh I didn't know that

[sturdy wren]

Holy merry mother of joseph

[cunning turtle]

I wouldn't have learned English, I learned some english through pz lol

[remote bear]

They probably are yeah

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[remote bear]

Wtf is that

[sturdy wren]

Ok i should actually wait for the hotfix than screw with mesa3d

[vague trench]

[sturdy wren]

diy fix for black screen on legacy amd cards

[remote bear]

Yeah, PZ is a great game for that reason.

[sturdy wren]

I don't remember how i learned english

[cunning turtle]

Yeah, and I'm planning to learn more languages through pz too lol

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[remote bear]

I wanna do German just for my vocabulary for next semester

Unfortunately I run mods that arent DE translated.

I also have to translate my own mod for DE someday

But now tis the holidays and I'm finito with all my projects for now

[cunning turtle]

Oh wow good luck with that

[sturdy wren]

I think the basics were via first second grade english class then minecraft then trying to talk to strangers on the internet

[cunning turtle]

What about joining in DE servers

[scenic gazelle]

My god I am saved

[remote bear]

That might be an option actually

[gleaming perch]

Goated wtf