Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[slate sentinel]

Used for crude fire starting alongside a wooden stick

[cedar nest]

I should be able to feed corpses to my pigs

[static heart]

oh shit

https://tenor.com/view/i-really-fucked-up-messed-up-fcked-up-screwed-up-guilty-gif-17538277

[cobalt bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/frogs-anime-sad-frog-gif-25356025

[lament crow]

Its alg i figured out what i needed to use with it, now its just a simple branch or long stick which is a great change

[lament crow]

🫡 rip

[jagged magnet]

seen a july 15th newspaper on july 12th...

spoilers!!!

[lunar summit]

I found out where you find saplings! You can find them in Wood piles I think

[vapid trail]

foraging too! you just have to search them in woods

[gleaming perch]

I wonder if this stuff is intentional by the devs, because they haven't fixed it yet

[lunar summit]

I do have a question. How do you speed up looking for clay? I feel like Clay is super rare even when foraging.

[vapid trail]

i think you need to set it to look for materials, or something along the lines

[vapid trail]

i think the problem is theres like a missing code that prevents future newspapers to spawn... maybe on stable it would be fixed?

[lunar summit]

I see I wonder if the foraging buff mod works with build 42 or maybe I just have to change some settings around. I feel like it takes forever to find just one clay let alone up to like seven you need to make a clay furnace

[vapid trail]

this is the option:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387703713&searchtext=clay

[lunar summit]

I will keep that in mind. I think it might make it way too easy though I'm NGL I like a challenge.

[velvet egret]

if you’re not in the wilderness, I read somewhere that clay can also be looted from industrial areas

[chilly atlas]

this is a known issue, idk if they have a way to schedule them yet or what

[vapid trail]

this kinda works too, unsure if its harder or not https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387278550&searchtext=clay

overall clay, is a very hard item to find and its most definitely not worth it at early game

[lunar summit]

Cool I think it might make it a little harder you probably need a bucket of water and dirt

[flat phoenix]

How is clay found?

[lunar summit]

Currently foraging.

I think I haven't found any clay from looting yet.

[velvet egret]

some have found clay in furniture stores. Warehouses might be another good place to check

[lunar summit]

Most of my runs tend to start in echo valley because I kind of want to do a slower playthrough I still haven't made it past one week yet though. (I only allow myself one life) I got so used to never having muscle strain and also having 10 in both fitness and strength back in build 41. I miss the negative trait points you used to get from high thirst.

[forest shore]

To be fair, it does feel more axe-like than knife like.

[raw parcel]

is claustrophobic bugged for anyone else

my char doesnt get panic even if i stand in a supply closet

no god mode no nothing

[lunar summit]

I do not know I never pick up that trait I always thought claustrophobia changed my playstyle too much

[glacial cape]

Same

multiplayer its fine but I don't trust sleeping out in a car or outdoors

[gleaming perch]

you should report it ngl

[raw parcel]

i cant reproduce the bug reliably

its very strange

quitting and rejoining the save fixes it

also you wont believe me but my work vpn blocks ludeon forums

[daring rain]

So they fixed the Chickenpocalypse, but what about the Ratpocalypse?

[raw parcel]

theres some stuff im not sure if it's bugs or easter eggs

like plastic bags with 8 plastic bags inside

[neat saffron]

POV : You raided OvO, its Dinner time.

[fierce mountain]

They will die down after 6 months

[daring rain]

This is 12 months later

[fierce mountain]

Yikes

[daring rain]

I don't think they will be going down

[fierce mountain]

Yeah that might be their stable level then is it laggy for you due to that?

[daring rain]

We are talking about rat in the thousands over there

Averaging 15-20 fps

[fierce mountain]

seems like maybe 80 rats actually each one has three lines

second picture is a lot more

[daring rain]

That's only a part of it, it goes on

My specs are more than enough, this is definitely a bug

[fierce mountain]

Did you survive that long or fastfoward the world before in sandbox?

[daring rain]

Sandbox settings

Time after the apocalypse -12 months

[fierce mountain]

might be a bug in the code caused that make a bug report on the forums with the steps you did.

[daring rain]

Uploaded on Reddit too

[daring rain]

Maybe

[subtle spade]

has anyone found ze shelter in brandeburg?

[daring rain]

It's just a temporary tornado shelter

[subtle spade]

yeah, where can i find it?

[daring rain]

Check my minimap, it's somewhere in Branderbourg

[subtle spade]

dankee

[silk nova]

did anyone had problem with sterilizing bandages with alcool i'm getting errors with two bottle of cologne and a bandage

[neat saffron]

Yknow what really sucks?

Jumping over a billion hurdles to get into that shooting range by Echo Creek only to realise that the spawns are broken and the crates and lockers are all empty outside of construction garbage

what a waste of time

[chrome fable]

https://tenor.com/view/skynet-skyboy-nayaka-joget-kucing-joget-gif-12873262552992549006

ay ay ay ay ay

my game finally works I managed to fix it lessgooo

[ornate parcel]

Is the loot inside good

[chrome fable]

it still freezes and crashes all the time tho

[daring rain]

Some candy at MOST, a single house has better loot

[ornate parcel]

I experienced the exact same thing 😭 the two military tents have loot tho, same with everything inside guns unlimited

[ornate parcel]

Are you fucking with me or have the devs just not made loot spawns for it yet 😭

[daring rain]

90% of the bunker space is seats the rest 5% is a restroom and the the rest is a storage room with some candy and food. That bunker is not even underground and is definitely designed as a temporary tornado shelter and nothing more

[halcyon echo]

It is fixed!!

[ornate parcel]

Damn I thought it’d have guns n shit

[daring rain]

Naah

[ornate parcel]

Thanks for the heads up

[spare breach]

I also noticed this

[hoary rampart]

Did they fix the AMD crashes yet??

[nova wharf]

Xd

[glacial cape]

Oh.. oh really? This is literally just like the expanded skill books mod

[raw parcel]

Friendship with weapons traits ended now books are my bff

[glacial cape]

For real

[raw parcel]

hows library loot generation?

[glacial cape]

still no carving skill books like I was trying to look for loot seems to be rarer, and its even harsher with extremely rare loot

[raw parcel]

used to be, two schools worth of books would set you up for life

[glacial cape]

Idk I'm not on default loot settings

Riverside is a lot tougher now I had to clear out all the downtown jsut to reach this shop

guess I'm hitting the school now, cause the us mail service building isn't full of skill books anymore just cardboard packaging, furniture and whatever(which makes sense but dammit)

[raw parcel]

reminds me of the great warehouse loot table revolution

wherein ppl would report bugs such as

"warehouse is full of rotten produce"

[glacial cape]

on day 1?

[raw parcel]

nah nah but you know

[frozen sail]

Is it just me or are there just... a lot more zombies everywhere now?

It feels a lot more oppressive just to survive the early game

[raw parcel]

theres more zombies in urban areas but countryside is ok

[glacial cape]

That's due to the changes to new heatmap changes

zombies are a lot more focused in high loot poi's

and sparse in rural areas, more common in urban areas

[raw parcel]

tbh its good

[scenic gazelle]

Hello!
finally decided to use the shotguns I found earlier ingame, but I am not sure which reticle settings I should use and I don't really know how they work, anyone figured it out?

[raw parcel]

Looting houses used to be pointless

[glacial cape]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/09/heat-of-the-night/

[raw parcel]

as you could just rush a couple stores

[frozen sail]

Yeah, I definitely feel like I can only loot houses rn

[glacial cape]

Yup I'm gonna be searching the homes as well

[frozen sail]

The stores and restuarants are super busy with zeds

Not sure how I'm gonna be able to loot gun stores and police stations with density this high

[raw parcel]

You can always try kiting with a car

[glacial cape]

With the new loot spawns even riverside is spicy

[glacial cape]

Personally I like it, its changed up the pacing of the game so instead of rushing each major poi a week in I am taking it slowly, carefully and methodically thinking about what the next thing I need is and taking my time clearing out areas

especially in mp everyone would just b-line to those locations now its gonna take longer to get to them

[raw parcel]

yeah, a good player on default setting could get everything he needs within 3 days

now it's much harder to try to rush

[flat phoenix]

I love how things have changed. Brings a new set of life to the game

[raw parcel]

took me 2 days just to find a car because i couldnt just go to the big parking lots downtown

[glacial cape]

its also meant to be more realistic instead of zombies being scattered everywhere along the roads and in rural areas they're in those points of interest cause that's probably where they died and turned

[slim merlin]

Had to set muscle fatigue to .5 in sandbox because it felt far too punishing. Gonna set it to .8 on my next life to try and find a good balance

[keen gorge]

Nah, I still get big clumps of zeds in the middle of bumfuck nowhere

[remote bear]

how overtuned does the new muscle strain mechanic feel after the hotfix?

[slim merlin]

Did they change muscle strain in the hotfix?

[remote bear]

Yes

[glacial cape]

Yes

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/lotta-words-wow-thats-a-lot-of-words-not-reading-that-not-reading-wow-gif-26878516

Did they tune it down?

[thin pendant]

bro

[glacial cape]

Maybe a spawning issue? The dev blog on heatmaps does read that zombies are meant to spawn less on roads

[thin pendant]

just check it yourself, it's not that hard

[slim merlin]

See gif above

[keen gorge]

Is it just me or are sacks so rare now

[thin pendant]

see the patchnote fatass

[keen gorge]

They changed those warehouses so instead of sacks of produce you just get boxes

[slim merlin]

Sick my fat hairy man cunt bitch boy 😛

[remote bear]

• Reduced Melee Weapon Muscle strain. It is now 60% of the previous amount. Other sources of Muscle Strain are unaffected. The sandbox value hasn't changed and the reduced value is the new baseline.

[thin pendant]

sperm stool washing machine bottle rover carpet

[remote bear]

you guys are truly masters of the english language

[slim merlin]

We get it bro you’re 12

[slim merlin]

You are both a scholar and a gentleman good sir.

[thin pendant]

"we" as in you being nonbinary?

[slim merlin]

Gonna go home and cry about that one 😂

[thin pendant]

or cus you're as big as a couple of guys

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-popcorn-3d-glasses-watching-eating-gif-17602628

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-down-in-pain-dying-gif-17935441104302278218

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-eating-amc-perfectly-popcorn-mouse-yum-yum-delicious-gif-15877432887457947334

[mild axle]

Actually calm down

[slim merlin]

What’s that word again? Projection?

[visual trail]

wait what?

[keen gorge]

There's skill books for everything now

[thin pendant]

Ejaculation

[visual trail]

WHAAAAT ?!!!

[glacial cape]

Yeah ik its crazy

[keen gorge]

Granted, the combat ones have a lower chance to spawn than the crafting ones

[glacial cape]

does it include nimble & maintenance as well?

[visual trail]

I haven't found one and you're telling me there are skill books for weapons now ?

[hidden fox]

For the sake of history i need to leave a comment here BUILD 42 LESSGOOOO

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-pat-on-head-stitch-gif-14742401

[glacial cape]

or is it just combat skills

[keen gorge]

I have found neither so I think its just weapon skills

[forest shore]

Why is it that sometimes a vehicle is just impossible to tow

[visual trail]

lawd jesus......

[slim merlin]

The long blade skill book is pretty poggers

[visual trail]

did you find the maintenance one?

[dusk plume]

Poggers? Please never say that again

[slim merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-react-this-user-pregnant-man-gif-7314513712895381143

[keen gorge]

If you want the weapon skill books, you have a better chance getting them at gunstores and camping stores instead of libraries

[keen gorge]

At least, that's how it went when I tested it

[slim merlin]

So anyway. Does anyone know what the book/magazine is called that gives you the weapon crafting recipes?

[glacial cape]

No I was just wondering so far I've only found long blade 1

[dusk plume]

I think everyone is still trying to play with B41 metas like the game hasn't been turned on its head in terms of zombies and loot.

[keen gorge]

There's multiple

[visual trail]

yup, crafting skill books are better found at warehouses and tool stores now

[dusk plume]

We all need to go back to common sense over what the youtubers say

[slim merlin]

I just want to reinforce my weapons with tin cans

[keen gorge]

Time to raid some gunstores

[slim merlin]

That’s true

[dusk plume]

On another note I hate like all the PZ youtubers

[visual trail]

Duck is ok

[remote bear]

Why?

[slim merlin]

I need to visit West Point but I’m 19 days in and the place will be packed

[ornate parcel]

The car has right of way as there are no signs or lights meaning everyone must yield to vehicles on their right

[thin pendant]

aight

lemme get the second one now

[slim merlin]

I could pull the zombies down town away from the gunstore and circle south around back to the gunstore 🤔

[ornate parcel]

Is this Eastern European driving 😭🙏

[remote bear]

I'm waiting Billy

...

[ornate parcel]

Fuck it we ball, biggest vehicles go first

[slim merlin]

What da ship doin’

[ornate parcel]

Shipping

[keen gorge]

Reminds me, anyone ever made a base on the steamboat at Brandenburg?

[remote bear]

billy writing us a whole paragraph on b42 youtubers

[slim merlin]

I haven’t even gotten to brandonburg

[glacial cape]

me neither

[thin pendant]

Ongi ju, see meem on tehtud eestis, ehk ida-euroopas

[remote bear]

...

[slim merlin]

The closest I’ve been was the little gated community to the south

[remote bear]

estonian

[glacial cape]

I'm afraid to explore the new area, and lv

[remote bear]

@glacial cape do it, arguably the best starting point

[dusk plume]

Everyone releases the same video in a different format for 3 months, then someone like atomicduck will drop a video talking about something else and then everyone talks about that. And the 'News' videos after every blog like there isn't dozens of them already by the time they've posted it. And not one of them can make an actually interesting video about anything either. It's just a bore all round and it annoys me.

[keen gorge]

LV skyscraper best start fight me

[dusk plume]

Sorry I had to rewrite I waffled

[remote bear]

Oh yeah, lol I noticed that too.

[visual trail]

Predz was the one stating that muscle strain at 0,6 is balanced and guess what it's 60% now on baseline than how it was first time it came out

[remote bear]

It's just the same repeat format of videos.

[glacial cape]

Can you blame them their starved for content

PZ isn't exactly the quickest at updating, of course they're all gonna cover the same stuff

[slim merlin]

I just want a video like Marthas used to make: him playing the game and just surviving.

[remote bear]

I'm gonna make a video based on my new gunplay guide I released as soon as I come home after the holidays.

[keen gorge]

It's not like there's much to do at B41 aside from whatever flavor of 16X challenge run there is

[visual trail]

the hotfix arrived pretty fast tbh

[slim merlin]

I used to watch his build 40 stuff back in the day

[glacial cape]

there are PZ youtubers who make up unique challenge videos or attempt a community made challenge, or the in games challenges as well

[remote bear]

Do you mean MathasGames?

[slim merlin]

I want to make a video trying to survive the CDDA challenge with no stats.

[slim merlin]

Yeah

[keen gorge]

B42 should spice things up for their formats. I can see some focusing on crafting and others staying in combat.

[glacial cape]

Sometimes I feel like Predz can be a bit too critical but that could just be me at least he isn't afraid to speak his mind, I still enjoy his videos nevertheless

[dusk plume]

And why can't people think of something unique (I find this in the general community as well) Where's the secret rule that you can only base up in 1 of 6-7 locations around the map and the rest are not worth thinking about.

[slim merlin]

I don’t watch videos that are over 25 minutes

[remote bear]

I wanna do my video soon, but I don't want to make it longer than 10

[slim merlin]

I just don’t have the time

[visual trail]

I have never based up in any popular locations from b41 to present times

[remote bear]

Or maybe more bite-sized to five. But I don't know how I would cover the new gunplay mechanics in video form compared to writing it.

[glacial cape]

I am guilty of taking unique base locations which people don't usually base in

[dusk plume]

Don't even get me started on RP in this game either, why is everyone so intent on using textRP? And why is it all so BORING?

[remote bear]

Some people aren't the best voice actors in RP.

[keen gorge]

I always have a main base over at Louisville with some stations at each town. Granted I haven't gotten to LV yet at B42 since the gate is so much clustered now

[remote bear]

TextRP can make you feel like reaching higher potentials in TextRP than Voiced.

Like... I'm a guy right? What if I wanted to play as an Irish chick that does alternative shit.

Can't do that in voiced rp

[edgy kiln]

yeah i was about to say voice kind of limits character options

[slim merlin]

I like basing in video stores. It feels very 90s

[glacial cape]

LV is even more of a death trap in b42 compared to b41

[remote bear]

Just, hypothetically right... I'm not saying I do want to be a irish chick...

[dusk plume]

But the stopping and the starting ruins the immersion. It's like I'm playing roblox waiting for 'Marcus DeAngelo (Super Special Secret Forces Mega Major)' To reply to me if when I ask him what time it is.

[chilly atlas]

same, also ive said as much before but im discerning abt voicework & i end up not being able to suspend disbelief that the survivor talking to me isnt just some guy at his computer

[remote bear]

You'd be surprised how fast some people can actually write in text rp.

[slim merlin]

I’ve played with some pretty good voipers in rp on this game

[chilly atlas]

ime they r not the majority. im also not one of them & cannot sound like the characters i play lol

[urban marsh]

I don't know where to report bugs.. but if u stick a deer 🦌 in the freezer and butcher it from there it duplicates it on the ground.. (infinite venison meat 🍖)

[slim merlin]

Oh don’t get me wrong I prefer text rp. But if it’s not available I’ll play with voip

[dusk plume]

If you aren't a great voice actor, model your character off your background. Don't make your foot fit the boot, make the boot fit your foot.

[remote bear]

Personally, I've done text rp since I was 14 on GMOD. I am a little biased, but Voiced RP just doesn't have that in-depth feel to it. You can't really describe player actions well enough in voip, often its just "/me opens door" in voice rp, it really throws me off to be honest.

[chilly atlas]

if text rp is unavailable im usually outie. i also have problems understanding ppl when their mic is fuzzy

[chilly atlas]

but ur talking something that isnt my preferred rp style. i like making a variety of characters, & i dont want to voice them

[slim merlin]

RP servers are gonna pop off with B42

[remote bear]

I guess I'm also drawn to being able to be more expressive in text.

[chilly atlas]

if i rly wanted to i promise i would persevere but i plain dont want to

[remote bear]

I thought they already did when TICS came out.

TICS is a very impressive chat mod.

[chilly atlas]

it has some issues but im a big fan

[remote bear]

I had the potential to make my own RP community, but I think I wouldn't have enough time to moderate it.

[spark vine]

why does it have a microphone detector in the settings menu

[dusk plume]

It's the other way round for me. Started RP on Dayz a couple years back to avoid KOS, and VOIP manages to convey much more about the character than TextRP ever could. I've never managed to make friends with a character that uses TextRP.

[spark vine]

can the zombies hear me talk?

[chilly atlas]

i have no idea where other rp servers r at but b42's release caused a lot of workshop mods to update & im personally running a server setup where i cant keep up

[remote bear]

lol, I'm the direct opposite, made most of my friends whom I've met with and still talk with through text rp communities in Garry's Mod.

I've never done Project Zomboid RP though.

[slim merlin]

They’re great. But I’m more so talking about, for example, the rp server I played would tell a story for a season then reset after 3 or 4 months with new lore because the gameplay loop would get boring cuz everyone get set up with a base and such and there isn’t much to go after besides lore. With build 42 we’ll see the ability to begin rebuilding civilization. Think TWD post Negan/Rick war

[chilly atlas]

i made a few rly good friends thru pzrp 💖 very big fan of it

[remote bear]

I think... If I were to start up a RP community, I would keep the modlist mostly vanilla tbh.

[slim merlin]

I’m an ex loremaster on PZrp (:

[remote bear]

Cause all the features I didn't have in B41 is now in B42.

[chilly atlas]

ooh what was that like

[dusk plume]

PZRP is ok, but you can't text and do things at the same time, so it often breaks immersion, especially in combat and whatnot.

[chilly atlas]

im trying to make my server viable for long-term play so its got like 550 mods lol. would be more if not for the setting

[remote bear]

550 💀

[slim merlin]

Making stories is pretty neat

[remote bear]

All of my modlists are like... no more than 30~ max.

[dusk plume]

My old modlist was about 100 large, but about 60 of them were QoL that's now unneeded.

[slim merlin]

For one season I helped make zombies with goo dripping from their eyes and mouth

[remote bear]

Haven't tried PZ-RP personally.

[dusk plume]

Can't wait for inventory tetris to update.

[remote bear]

I'm in SeriousSurvival and Deadline, but haven't even played those either.

[slim merlin]

It’s voip and text

[glacial cape]

"Don't worry bro I just installed a few qol mods" - bros qol mods

[dusk plume]

The server PZRP is good, but I put it down due to the minorty for VOIP players since that's my prefered RP style.

[remote bear]

https://tenor.com/view/list-amazinggrace-court-watching-scroll-gif-13488308

[dusk plume]

Might go back to it when B42 multiplayer drops

[remote bear]

I will for sure re-launch my community server for b42

[blazing finch]

I'm starting to enjoy b42 a lot more than the last couple of days

[glacial cape]

I'll probably just be playing with friends so I can not tell them animals fight back and watch them be killed by a cow

10/10 peak zomboid gameplay

[dusk plume]

Still dying all the time myself, I pretty much only play multiplayer so someone not having my back/someone to share experiences with is a pain.

[lethal wolf]

I've been contemplating whether I should take my 2 chickens to a roadtrip or kill them with a spoon

if they fit to my car, I'll probably take em with me while traveling to the foresty part of the map

[remote bear]

you can share the experiences with your animals

[dusk plume]

A chicken bit my toe after I let it out of a crashed animal trailer. I killed him and all his freinds to prove a point

[glacial cape]

Go full on John Wick on those chickens :D

[slim merlin]

Chickens fight back too?

[lethal wolf]

They need water and feed and I do not have such luxuries on a roadtrip for them, if they cannot sit on my car seat, they're goners

[dusk plume]

Not very hard. Still annoyed me though

[glacial cape]

Really hoping we get some recipe book or whatever similar to crafting helper b41 cause I have no clue what most of these new items do XD

[glacial cape]

can chickens not graze?

[slim merlin]

I beat a chicken to death with a crowbar the other day and it just tried running away

[lethal wolf]

I have no idea, but I don't have a specialized vehicle for them

[glacial cape]

I know sheep, pigs & cows can graze and all animals can drink tainted water just fine but I have no idea if chickens and turkeys can graze

[lethal wolf]

They'll read the map for me on front seat, or they'll become a pocket meal

[glacial cape]

Emergency rations

[lethal wolf]

they laid 33 eggs on spawn, yum

[glacial cape]

Egg factory

[gleaming perch]

dude I dont understand- if I spawn in the forest and I want to make a crude stone axe, I need maintenance level 1?

Guess I need to pick Outdoorsy as a trait 😔

[hallow sail]

are my pigs gonna be okay?

do i need to make them a shelter or something?

[versed cave]

Has anyone else seen a group of like 12 rabbits in the road? I ran them over for some quick food, but I didn't know if anyone else had seen them do that.

[hallow sail]

yep

[heady field]

not even a week and we got this many, w modders

[glacial cape]

W

[visual trail]

careful many are ported not by the original author could be very buggy

[dusk plume]

It was 240 a couple hour ago, we'll be back up to B41 count in no time

[glacial cape]

Nice.

[remote bear]

Most of these mods are re-uploaded not by the authors.

VFE is supposedly supposed to release today or tomorrow.

[visual trail]

some qol mods are worth it like automechanics since it got updated by the owner

[lament crow]

do u guys know how 2 heal a bite via debug?

[remote bear]

proximity inv was updated too.

[visual trail]

made my day

[remote bear]

idk i just press n and it disappears.

in debug that is. - Godmode clears everything afaik.

[chilly atlas]

steam FINALLY made the tag work??

[remote bear]

Honestly in this new update I think I will forgo entirely any mod that more than a qol mod.

[chilly atlas]

i saw that their zones have a stat for whether theres shelter but idk i havent seen any mention of animals being affected by weather

[visual trail]

yeah it was working since yesterday

[glacial cape]

vhs tapes are useless past level 3 in any skill right?

[visual trail]

they move inside if it rains or snows

[dusk plume]

Anyone else sad and anxious all the time, I've got smoker but it's not nearly been enough time since my last cig to be at this point

[visual trail]

that seemed to be the case but I have leveled carpentry to 4 with woodcraft

[glacial cape]

No sandbox changes?

[visual trail]

no no

either bugged or we're missing something

[glacial cape]

maybe its you can't get past level 3 after rewatching with a new character?

for mp balance?

[visual trail]

don't know tbh

[lethal wolf]

2 hours ago I couldnt get my carpentry past 3 with Woodcraft, 0 exp gained from each tick

[glacial cape]

so it is working as intended or not?

[lethal wolf]

I play with sandbox setting and it was level 3 default for tape exp

[spare breach]

it is infuriating that i need a bucket to make clay cement, wish there were alternative options such as using multiple smaller containers

who wouldve known that finding a bucket is more difficult than finding 10 crowbars and axes

[hallow sail]

stupid question, can different cows of different types breed?

[visual trail]

yes

animal breeding comes with genetics

[hallow sail]

wdym

[visual trail]

if you cross-breed the resulting offsprings won't offer as much wool, meat, leather as pure breeds

[hallow sail]

don't tell me i gotta worry about family members...

oh my lordy lord

[visual trail]

of course what do you think you're playing a AAA game ;)))?

[hallow sail]

wait okay but do i gotta worry about like siblings

[visual trail]

so you won't know the male's traits until he breeds

[hallow sail]

mating

do i gotta worry about incest cows?!?

[keen gorge]

Keep it in the family

[lethal wolf]

No chicken #1 daughter of mine shall date this other breed, we value purity in our bloodline...

but interesting that crossbreeding is suboptimal

[glacial cape]

Can you not use a wooden bucket?

[visual trail]

best advice is to have the same species when breeding

[visual trail]

you can, you need nails for it ;))

[hallow sail]

damn. i found 2 females and 1 male but all different species

[spare breach]

i think i checked and it only accepts the metal bucket but not sure. Anyways i have carpentry 1 so i probably wouldnt be able to make a bucket

[visual trail]

don't put in the same zone two males of the same specie

they will fight each other

[glacial cape]

yeah its carp 2

[spare breach]

dumbass males

[visual trail]

said another male

[spare breach]

ok not too bad then, i can get to that level in a bit

[glacial cape]

Might wanna check if you can use the bucket first in debug mode

[hallow sail]

what if its like his son? also if i put two zones a tile next to eachother with a fence between em do u think they'll still fight?

[glacial cape]

just to save yourself the time

[spare breach]

the bucket recipe isnt the only recipe i need carpentry for

[glacial cape]

molds?

[spare breach]

if the bucket doesnt work for it, that sucks, but i can only blame indie stone for that because it makes no sense if thats the case

[remote bear]

This new update seems to have fixed the lighting update a bit.

[spare breach]

can you make a bucket out of clay

[remote bear]

Other rooms are now dark when you're not there.

[glacial cape]

Yeah it seems a lot of the crafting chains either don't work, make no sense or are weirdly obtuse to get the levels for but I'm not gonna get too upset with TIS considering 1. This is unstable beta & 2. I've waited way too long for this lol

[spare breach]

wooden walls + weapon recipes

[glacial cape]

and ik eventually these will get patched

[brazen jetty]

it would be great if devs added a sound for lighters when they are ignited

[spare breach]

just hoping they'll give them more flexibility and logic

[glacial cape]

Agreed, some form of recipe handbook would be nice as well I can't tell what most things are used for

[spare breach]

i really am not a fan of recipes where you need one VERY specific tool for it

[glacial cape]

but we'll see :)

[spare breach]

meanwhile you could logically do it either by hand or with the use of a few different tools that are similar enough

[glacial cape]

Could be that's just because that might be the only tool used for it irl?

[keen gorge]

Craft helper can't come soon enough for B42

[spare breach]

you dont need to use a tool to make a primitive furnace, kiln or forge. I'd need to check that again but some of those primitive recipes definitely require tools

[hallow sail]

can i feed this to my animals

[glacial cape]

I mean that kinda makes sense they're primitive

[spare breach]

no i literally watched this youtube channel where the guy makes all this stuff by hand

it may be physically exhausting and time consuming, yes, but it is very well possible

[glacial cape]

it depends how fair they'll end up going with it you gotta remember this is jsut the surface crafting system, it'll be expanded upon

[spare breach]

its primitive for a reason, you dont need a whole lot for it

[glacial cape]

I would like to start from scratch in the primitive wilds but for now with the current state of it its not possible

[spare breach]

the point im trying to make is that i just want more flexibility with those recipe requirements thats all

if youj look at a recipe and your brain is like "no thats weird, theres definitely another way" then it's not good

[lament crow]

do u guys know how 2 heal a bite via debug? and i mean like thru the commands not straight godmode

[spare breach]

thats not to say that you should be able to build entire brick walls and forges by hand but we just need more options when it comes to the simple clay products

and other recipes on a similar level

[glacial cape]

thing about other options is there's probably some engine or game limitations with that like making a clay fire pit isn't possible which is why we've only got the primitive kiln as a structure

[spare breach]

apologies i genuinely dont remember how exactly i did it, but i for sure know there is a way to do it through the debug

[spare breach]

why would it not be possible

[spare breach]

and you dont need to do it via commands, you basically just toggle a option

IsInfected = false or something

[slim merlin]

You’ll have to go in debug and switch on and off godmode. I don’t think there’s any commands to do it

[spare breach]

i didnt even use godmode

[slim merlin]

Alternative you could get the “they knew” mod

[visual trail]

the expanded crafting updated will fix and patch most of the aspect

[spare breach]

am i missing something? 💀 you dont need to do any of that

[visual trail]

remember this is initial crafting we got

also take into account more crafting is on it's way since it has been pushed back

[lament crow]

ah ok thanks

[glacial cape]

Idk I said probably, just due to the fact that zomboid is isometric

I can't explain why I'm not a dev

[visual trail]

for example there are some machines that work others that are just sprites with no function

[spare breach]

could do it the same way you make a campfire then, no???

[glacial cape]

but it just feels like one of those things where it might be really difficult to do or straight up impossible

[wooden ravine]

has anyone here figured out how to sharpen a knife or axe with a wet stone?

[glacial cape]

possibly?

[rich cove]

Turn the Health Cheat Mode on, right click on a bite and you should be able to heal

[spare breach]

right click the whetstone or the tool and use the sharpen blade option. I feel like you can only do that if the weapon is dull enough, though. I tried sharpening an axe which was only slightly dulled and it didnt give me the option

[quick temple]

How can i grind knapping if anyone knows?

[visual trail]

you can also use a file for that

if you found one

[wooden ravine]

thanks

[glacial cape]

Yeah ik I'm just happy that we finally got b42 since some people were growing impatient, I probably could've waited longer tbh lol

its still good to talk about these issues though

[spare breach]

you cannot grind it very well, the only option to get xp for it without already starting with a skill level is to forage for flint nodules and knap those into sharp flint

[ornate parcel]

My pig laid an egg chat pls help

[visual trail]

if you saw those electrical circuits in basements

[glacial cape]

There's knapping skill books

[visual trail]

they will have function

[spare breach]

cuold really use those. Ive found butchering skill books, and some of the main skill books too, but no knapping yet

[quick temple]

Ah dang it

[loud mural]

do you think unstable multiplayer will arrive before the year is up

[spare breach]

yeah its slow, even with a skill book not very good

[torn elk]

The molotov cocktail has also been banished to the shadow realm it seems

[glacial cape]

Same I'm basically clearing all of riverside on the hunt for carving skill books I've changed loot to extremely rare as well

[spare breach]

[glacial cape]

Not likely, devs need breaks too

[hallow adder]

No one knows. Build 41 multiplayer was somewhat long as well.

[loud mural]

build 41 multiplayer landed ig like a month and a half after

[spare breach]

dude i cant even carve anything, not sure theres a way to increase my carving skill at zero

[subtle lotus]

Okay
So I wanted to check at what new moodles are there and my question is
...tf are those for?

[glacial cape]

they have still been doing mp testing though on steamdb

[hallow adder]

It was a month and half after the game balance is good and the game was feature complete for solo playthroughs.

[glacial cape]

Making spears or stakes seems to be the way to go

[chrome fable]

They'll be used for NPC interactions

[spare breach]

oh. alright

[torn elk]

Honestly would rather mp take at least a month. Gives them a chance to iron stuff out and isnt immersion breaking when I first go to play with friends

[chrome fable]

In the future builds

[subtle lotus]

cool

[hallow adder]

Did no one try leveling maintenance just by constantly pushing at a closed door?

[remote bear]

Wait you can do that?

[spare breach]

i found the book that gave me the harden spear recipe so now i can make even better spears with the use of fire, splendid

[hallow adder]

You can in Build 41, so I was wondering why no one tried this in Build 42.

[remote bear]

I just never knew about to be honest.

[glacial cape]

Oh I got that too! But idk how to make a spearhead I guess I gotta use blacksmithing stuff?

[spare breach]

its a shitty way to level up a skill so i never even considered it

[hallow adder]

Not so shitty now

[glacial cape]

idk if it works anymore, haven't tested it but I was spending forever banging down a security door which never broke btw and I got no maintenance xp from it either

[spare breach]

you can knap a flint nodule into a stone spearhead with a good enough knapping skill i think, otherwise you'll likely have to forge it or something

[hallow adder]

Hmm, guess they did remove the maintenance leveling exploit.

[vague trench]

ew lol you could do that in 41?

[glacial cape]

Yeah but there's a metal spearhead as well which is used in recipes

[hallow adder]

What? It was in the wiki. I thought everyone knew about this.

[spare breach]

welding related, then?

[flat phoenix]

Good

[vague trench]

no i just play lol i dont look up the in game stuffs

[spare breach]

the correct way

[hallow adder]

True

[spare breach]

i only look stuff up when i am really confused

[vague trench]

dyings the fun part!!

[glacial cape]

That;s what I thought initally but metalworking seems to be the new blacksmithing stuff, whereas welding is the old metalworking

which means to use the forges/anvil you need metalworking and for metal structures/car repairs you need welding

idk why they didn't jsut keep metalworking as is and made a blacksmithing skill but its how it is i guess

[spare breach]

if the spearhead doesnt show up in welding then its probably made via the use of a forge and anvil

i dont see any other option

[visual trail]

yes it was an exploit same way you could lvl up sneaking on a roof corner with zeds down

[vague trench]

wth lol

[glacial cape]

yeah I'm thinking that too time to continue my mass skill book hunt I guess lol

at this point I forgot my reason to get carving I think it was to level it enough to make a handle for a sledgehammer

[spare breach]

its likely theres a whole lot of new recipes for blacksmithing specifically that you wont see unless you have those things built

[visual trail]

same way you can lvl fitness and strength now while resting ;))

[hallow adder]

Why sledgehammer?

[lament crow]

anyone know a good player retexure mod for 42?

[vague trench]

what lol

[wet timber]

i made my own.

[loud mural]

I guess I've found in my little amount of play that weapons are much more rare

[vague trench]

how do you peoples find this stuff haha

[flat phoenix]

Wait you can? 🤣

[visual trail]

yes

[wet timber]

gamers are the best QA

[glacial cape]

destroying walls

[flat phoenix]

Lmao, im sure they’ll patch that

[visual trail]

it's bugged just rest and exercise

[wet timber]

seems fun ngl

[vague trench]

lmao

do you still do the croissant curl when exercising? C

[lament crow]

nice, where can i find it on the workshop

[hallow adder]

Walls, I guess. If you are destroying metal gates, they now come with the option to disassemble them using propane torches now.

[heady field]

well we are kinda like the free QA lol

[wet timber]

you can't, that's the point because i made it for myself and added many tattoos, scars able to be added on my char etc :tf_:

[vague trench]

that lol

[lament crow]

😆 ah fair enough

[wet timber]

shake that ass

[hallow adder]

Check the Crafting menu and search for it. You will see what you need. Click on the question mark for more info.

[vague trench]

im a clam

[wet timber]

nah i was joking ofc

[glacial cape]

Not just that there's one of the new buildables I made which can't be dismantled so I need a sledge for it I think not sure

[wet timber]

maybe i will release it idk

[glacial cape]

at worst I'll use debug mode but collecting skill books is a good idea anyways since their rare now

[hallow adder]

I just went with abundance of loot and set item respawn to hourly.

[heady field]

try project ava, it also ||add some new model||

[vague trench]

does anyone know if basements will spawn here?

[visual trail]

if anyone finds the maintenance skillbook shout-out to me

[hallow adder]

[lament crow]

oh no, this isnt a crafting item this is a player skin, on the workshop lol

[wet timber]

he was asking me about my player reskin which isn't on workshop 😂

[lament crow]

personally a lame player retexure is my fav and i wish it worked on 42, but sure ill give that a go thanks

[lethal wolf]

I was almost considering putting the basement rarity into "Always" to see if some more unique location can spawn a basement

[wet timber]

convert KATTAJ Body Retexture from B41 to B42, easy

[vague trench]

would be so cool if they spawn around here , this still my favorite area ever!!

[hallow adder]

We need a new word to differentiate between Steam Workshop and Crafting Workshops in the game.

[heady field]

oh yea that one is nice too

[lament crow]

ah, i see ava is only for women right?

[vague trench]

oh wait brandenburger has crust !!

[wet timber]

yup, KAttaj is for both

[lethal wolf]

Can always have "test world" without zeds to see if basements can spawn there, if you don't mind using such tactics

[wet timber]

Mod Workshop and Crafting Workshop!

nvm i go modding stuff, bye

[vague trench]

ill give it a try laters thanks for the idea! curious

[lament crow]

this is a military army pack tho, i dont see the skin mod

[lethal wolf]

Don't forget the sandbox setting for "Always", that should confirm it for good 🙂

Ergo basement WILL be there, if it can ever spawn one

[vague trench]

okay

[civic drum]

As of this current version of the mod, I guess I have to use a quarter tank of gas to wash my clothes by driving to the river. Irritating, but not game breaking.

[forest shore]

Anyone figure out what the 'backpack bottom' slot is for

[civic drum]

Sleeping bags and tents only.

[keen gorge]

Sleeping bags and tents

[ember elbow]

put water in a container and wash from that

[forest shore]

Ahhhh okay

[hot grail]

Does it reduce weight or is it just to make it look cool?

[keen gorge]

It reduces it

[civic drum]

There a specific container? Because I can wash rags, but doesn't seem to let me wash self/clothes.

[civic drum]

The looking cool is only thing that matters, but yeah, it reduces weight.

[ember elbow]

reduces encumbrance by 66% for those two in that slot. 3 to .9

[hot grail]

Nice

[ember elbow]

oh that's a bug i've not actually seen. i don't know then

[civic drum]

Wait, does the water have to be untainted to wash in it now?

[ember elbow]

no, tainted water is still fine to clothes wash

[civic drum]

What container have you used to do it?

[visual trail]

Try adding water to a sink

[keen gorge]

Why wash your clothes. Embrace the murder hobo lifestyle

[visual trail]

or bathtub / toilet

[civic drum]

Sir, I am a civilized woman, I live in a house, have chickens, so many chickens, and eat eggs for every meal.

[ember elbow]

just the still-flowing water from the sink in the house i'm living in. did your water shut off?

[civic drum]

I wear a stovepipe hat, sir, I am the most civilized person there is.

[civic drum]

Yeah, water's been off for ages.

[ember elbow]

tbh i just turned off water shutoff since plumbing doesn't exist yet so that's probably it lol

[true smelt]

Where it is?

[forest shore]

Do.... Do pigs eat bodies?

[civic drum]

You know, kind of wish I did that, but I didn't. I have a crap-ton of rain barrels from Coalfield, and they're not much use, because they don't fill up when you're away or while you're sleeping.

[keen gorge]

Ooh that would be so realistic if true

[ember elbow]

i wonder if you could get the water on again if you used the active sandbox options and reverted the water shutoff to -1

[forest shore]

I had a bunch of bodies in my yard - they may of just decomposed though

[glacial cape]

@civic drum I've seen you've been messing around with farming crops as well have you been getting the issue of your crops dying before they even reach passed the seedling stage even when they're planted in the best season

[civic drum]

Maybe, but I'm mostly unmodded.

[civic drum]

Yes, I had a lengthy converstion with a nonimaginary Spiffo about that.

[true smelt]

Thank you bro!

[civic drum]

There is no options available to add water to a sink or bathtub from what I can find.

[glacial cape]

so I'm guessing its just plant and pray?

[heady field]

oh new town

[true smelt]

Does anyone know what that Video Effect option is for?

[civic drum]

At lower levels of Agriculture yes, Spiffo did imply that higher levels will be able to tell if seeds are sick

[glacial cape]

cause if so with how long some of them take to grow now we're talking 240 days for barley alone that's gonna be painful

[true smelt]

It doesn't change anything when I disable it

[vague trench]

thats cool

[true smelt]

Anyone how can help, I would appreciate it

[forest shore]

||You can only access it from the south side - it appears to be surrounded by trees and you may have to walk in if you can't drive around the fence||

[glacial cape]

think I might adjust the speed of growth

[hallow adder]

I heard after the crops are harvested, it only yields 1 amount per tile. Is this true?

[glacial cape]

man do I miss getting farming xp for planting crops

[true smelt]

And did you find out where that house is with the blacksmith's furnace?

[glacial cape]

not sure my crops keep dying before they can even get passed the seedling stage

[civic drum]

Spiffo recommended faster speeds for crops. I personally declined, because I seek pain.

Also I'm curious if anything will grow.

[true smelt]

!? Anyone? 🥲

[hallow adder]

New baseline

[civic drum]

He said use speeds 1 or 2.

[glacial cape]

Guess I'm playing stardew valley now lol

after my skill book journey just gonna take it easy, grind out skills etc

maybe something will be grown by then or passed seedling stage

🙏 here's hoping

[brazen sky]

How do I get clay?

and is foraging the only way to get long sticks?

[opaque schooner]

Press q

[civic drum]

I haven't figured out how to get clay, but yes, long sticks is foraging only, unless there's a recipe I haven't found.

[glacial cape]

you can take the head off some long weapons for long sticks like the sycthe or any axes

[lunar summit]

Clay is found by Foraging as well

[civic drum]

Only foraging?

[lunar summit]

I think so but some say you can find it in loot idk I found a total of 3 from foraging so far

[glacial haven]

Caught a small paddlefish but I don't see the option to fillet it with my fillet knife 🤔 Any ideas

[glacial cape]

you need a crafting surface

[civic drum]

I need to start murdering chickens, they are making way too many eggs

[true smelt]

I found out, these are the videos that appear of the city when choosing the map

[glacial haven]

ah its down through the crafting menu now, ty

[civic drum]

All right, so I've just discovered something. If you empty a bathtub, it refills back to full.

No additional water required.

[vague trench]

lmao wat

[civic drum]

It went from 1L to 100L

[vague trench]

lemme see lmao

[lunar summit]

Is water off?

[civic drum]

Water is off, yes.

[lunar summit]

Huh weird

[dim halo]

never ending water!!!

[vague trench]

everytime ... i go to test something on a throw away game lol this van spawn but never in the games i want it to spawn lol

[autumn pier]

Hypothermia kills :(
Getting fuel for winter is more important for survival besides avoiding the flu

[civic drum]

Speaking of preparing for winter, Coalfield is the best place for antique stoves now. More enough of them for every room in your house.

[autumn pier]

I needed to get into shelter cause I was dying of hypothermia but there was zeds in the shadows, sure enough, head was bitten…

[autumn pier]

And warehouses?

[dim halo]

wheres that?

[autumn pier]

Haven’t been to one but I’m hoping they still have ovens

[civic drum]

Warehouse loots seem to have changed substantially.

[dim halo]

also has anyone tested the new genarators?

[civic drum]

Materials are more common than tools.

[autumn pier]

I see

[civic drum]

Coalfield is on the old western border of the map, just off the highway near the rest area. Also, yes, I'm using the blue generator, and it's pretty good, but as far as I can tell, generators don't go underground to basements.

[gleaming perch]

GUYS they are adding a 'Brewer' profession soon.

[forest shore]

It would be really ncie if we had wheel barrows

[glacial haven]

🤔 Can pigs really eat zombie corpses?

[civic drum]

That seems unclear at this time.

[silk nova]

Let them for now fix this apocalypse of bugs

[civic drum]

Science is required!

[glacial haven]

[civic drum]

Also, cutting up Chicken appears to be one of the few activities that does not result in matter replication.

[glacial cape]

1 whole chicken was worth around 100 food for me because of my butchering & animal care skill from picking livestock farmer

[glacial haven]

is 100 food good or bad

[vague trench]

lol thats so weird

[rich shuttle]

How come there’s an all encompassing black void past one chunk? Driving full speed causes jank due to outrunning the void

[shell crystal]

I tried, but i dont has success

[vague trench]

i used two pots and its just forever waters

[glacial cape]

Good

[glacial haven]

interesting

[civic drum]

That's Ohio, it's what it really looks like IRL

[keen gorge]

I'm pretty sure we're set in Kentucky

[glacial cape]

Looks like B42 is doing good for the numbers

[hybrid frost]

The crafting menu doesn't show all posible outputs of recipe, does it? Is there a way to make it do so?

[civic drum]

Yeah, most of the map is Kentucky, but if you hit a black void, that's Ohio.

[vapid trail]

imagine whats its gonna look like during multiplayer release

[brazen jetty]

double all-time peak 2.9 years ago

[keen gorge]

52,000 bug testers at any given time

[vapid trail]

insane 16x pop settings:

[raw parcel]

i cant find a damn hammer

is there anything worth looting in AMZ steel?

[civic drum]

All right, I can confirm: water in sinks/tubs/toilets restocks when it is used up after the water goes out. I suspect this is compensating for the fact that the new water system seems incomplete when it comes to world containers like those objects and rain collectors.

[raw parcel]

wdym exactly?

water is still available after it shuts off?

and rain collectors are broken?

[keen gorge]

I'm pretty sure only the plumbing part is broken. Rain collectors work fine

[crisp knot]

oh that's crazy ya'll are talking about this exact thing I Was gonna ask a question about

[civic drum]

Correct, but you have to use up all of it in the sink before it refills. Rain collectors are not broken, but they're also not fully functional. They use the new mixed liquid mechanics BUT they only collect water when your character is awake and in the same grid.

[raw parcel]

they probably have to rework plumbing to fix the pure water bug

[crisp knot]

Rain collector here, sink in there can't plumb it at all

[raw parcel]

they only collect water when your character is awake and in the same grid.
oh wtf

[civic drum]

That goes for anything collecting water, including pots and buckets, btw.

[raw parcel]

good thing theres more bodies of water

[vague trench]

ahh thats cool then lol

time for bubble barfths

[civic drum]

And apparently sinks and tubs refresh, so it works.

[raw parcel]

this looks more like a set of unrelated bugs

[vague trench]

survivior houses are so good now i just round another one on a new save theyre glorious!

[heady field]

I think I saw some block with lots of barricaded houses in muldraugh

[gleaming perch]

Crackhouses

[brazen jetty]

How do I make tea in B42?

[civic drum]

Ohhh, good question. I bet that's entirely different now. What have you tried?

[brazen jetty]

Crafting menu is silent about any beverages, I tried boiling a water container in an oven and seeing options on a tea bag

I have a coffee machine nearby, maybe it should be brewed there

I can craft coffee here, but no tea

[civic drum]

Check under options for Coffee

click the question mark, maybe they've included tea as coffee.

[glacial cape]

Maybe for tea you need a kettle?

[brazen jetty]

hope I understood you correctly

[brazen jetty]

maybe so, I'll go look for it

[civic drum]

Yep, that appears to not be the case then

[civic drum]

I have a full kettle and a tea bag, and no options to combine the two

It could need a recipe, there's a lot more recipe books

[brazen jetty]

Heated up the kettle, boiled up the water, poured water in a container and this container now has an option for beverages
I left the teabag at home so I guess I'll be able to make tea if I had a teabag in my inventory

B42 has so many tiny details devs didn't laid out and I love it

It feels like the first time playing this game again

[glacial cape]

Yeah could be a recipe

[civic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-dunk-mug-brew-biscuit-gif-18330696

I've got a tea bag, just heated a kettle, not seeing an option

[brazen jetty]

pour water in a cup

[civic drum]

All right, yes, I experimented with it. It works in a tea cup, but not the new metal cups. Also it doesn't need to be heated.

Are TIS British? I feel like they should have gotten the making of tea correct.

[brazen jetty]

well, i guess it will be once they maybe add temperatures to liquids

[brazen jetty]

TIS are from all over the world, most of the devs are from US if I remember right

[civic drum]

Also, I don't know if this was possible in B41, but adding Flour to Stew REALLY helps te weight gain

[gleaming perch]

Hell naw they definitely mostly british

why do you think they write 'colour' instead of color in some items ingame

[cosmic yoke]

hashtag spelling error in project zomboid !!!!!!! literally unplayable !!!!!!!!

[civic drum]

Huh, peformance just took a big dive for no apparent reason one month in

[brazen jetty]

still better than louisville in b41

[civic drum]

Odd, restarting my game made everything fine again

[brazen jetty]

the reason behind such good performance is maybe the way they've changed how caching works
it still need polishing but it's unstable so

[civic drum]

Haven't really noticed a big performance change in unstable for me. Considering everything they've added, that's impressive in itself.

[blazing coral]

try to monitor your RAM usage during an extended play session. This smells like a memory leak

[forest shore]

Is it just me or does carpentry level faster now? Or maybe it's just because you can build actual stuff sooner

[forest shore]

Yea both plumbing and electrical are getting redone - water first I think. It'll rely on actual plumbing from what I heard

Also yea memory leaks are a pain. I need to restart every now and then to prevent lag.

[chilly atlas]

wait where

oh with

[severe prawn]

Can you mix up sanitizer with water or something?

Or fuel with water

Or fuel with alcohol

[heady field]

I think u cant mix liquid, only transfer/ pour the whole thing

[civic drum]

You can mix some liquids. For example, mixed wine and water or seltzer water and water.

[forest shore]

Or like bleach with water, to make a cleaning solution

[versed cave]

I took more traits as a mod and I am in love with using light drinker because I got to see the screen blur and this... I am loving this update

[civic drum]

All right, I was wrong about the water. Apparently, I was selecting the shower head the first time around, and the bathtub itself the second time around. The water did not refresh.

[valid escarp]

can you throw corpses through a window on a second floor?

im grabbing the zombie and i cant figure out how to throw it out the window

[forest shore]

Have the window open, stand next to the window, hold e.

[waxen spade]

Hi guys

Do Devs said something about AnimZed and the other mapping tool release ? Do we have a window?

Just curious to know when will be probably able to see some new animals or underground mods.

[forest shore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387445972 pog

[real fox]

im seeing this with a viechle for some reason

seems to maybe be one of the new ones maybe?

[forest shore]

How far apart do zones have to be to keep them from merging?

[keen gorge]

I'm expecting a lot of accidental deaths because of this

[hallow sail]

this community center in brandenburg has a room with treadmills in it and lots of blunt weapon goodies in the shelves. thought i'd throw it out there

[forest shore]

You can't vault out a window with a body though so should be fine

[keen gorge]

I dunno, I'm seeing a lot of posts about it in Reddit

[forest shore]

I really wish that merging zones only happened when the zones were touching edges. Instead it does it within somewhere around 5-7 tiles.

[dusk plume]

Anyone know if there's a mod that replaces the ingame map with this map?

[real fox]

i cant seem to figure out what could becausing this, do yall think i should report it as a bug, not sure if it might be a local issue or not, i havent really stumbled across any veichle that has this, and im still kinda new player so not sure if this is a pre 42 car or not

[dusk plume]

I like my all known on start but it feels a bit cheaty

[forest shore]

You could just disable the in game map

I don't think it's possible to replace the in game map

[cyan blaze]

the black screen to amd cards has been fixed??

[pallid hinge]

no

[cyan blaze]

[keen gorge]

I got caught off guard by how loud your character screams when they fall to their death

[heady field]

[cyan blaze]

, 1734812041343> ModelScript.check> no such model "Chainsaw" for Base.Chainsaw.

is it in the game?

[wet timber]

It was in B41 but i suppose they deleted model for it in B42?

[civic pelican]

in the hotfix patch note it talks of fixing a floor cell in 16,24, does anyone know if thats referring to the small "restricted area" building on the side of the highway?

[cyan blaze]

Idk, has a lot of things on debug logs... all not found

[opaque schooner]

Go find out man

[civic pelican]

im literally outside the door lol

[red coral]

you will not gobble me

[civic pelican]

watch me

[red coral]

no i don’t believe i will

[vague trench]

yes it does fix it

[civic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-james-gandolfini-gabagool-tony-soprano-gif-20757471

[vague trench]

if its a new save

i already generated it on my old save so it was bugged still , i had to make new save

[civic pelican]

ya fk it im not gonna risk it i doubt theres anything even cool down there

[hallow adder]

Report it through the official forums.

[vague trench]

if you have a flash light or lights on you should be able to tell if its bugged still by standing on the top you wont be able to see the stairs, just dont walk down

[red coral]

not cool man not cool at all that gabagool was family

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-gabagool-tony-therapy-gif-26084338

[vague trench]

oo i found a smoke bomb lol

[versed cave]

Hi Puppers!

[vague trench]

ahoy pupper.exe how are you enjoying build 42?!

[versed cave]

Well other than muscle strain and the new moodles I love it!

Which are both things that can be fixed easily with mods or settings

[civic pelican]

im backing up my save and going in

[versed cave]

I also thought I was going insane when I tried to siphon gas and ended up not being able to because of no hose

[forest shore]

So butcher hooks are nice to build - you can collect animal blood for... I don't know what. But I have 8 bottles of it now.

[chilly hawk]

guys is there some news about multiplayer in beta?

[vague trench]

lmao yeah i remember standing at a car and i was like wait i dont get it lol

[vague trench]

no eta probably wont hear anything until stable i am guessing , i doubt most of us would want to play mp without some basic crafting

[versed cave]

I was at the school in RW and was panicking trying to get gas at night and was terrified of the horde 20 meters away that hadn't seen me.

[static heart]

i hope they will balance the new crafting asap, it feels pointless to use now

[keen gorge]

Time to draw some withcraft sigils

[brazen jetty]

AMOGUS

[vague trench]

lol yea its pretty intense right now

[versed cave]

to drink? idk

[vague trench]

thats amazing i want blood bottles lmfao

[wet timber]

anyone found M1A1 Chemicals already? 😎

[versed cave]

I am going from Rosewood to the historic coal fields, I need a base there...

[heady field]

lol

[chilly hawk]

i heard that they will make multiplayer later but when idk i really want to play with someone soo much

[versed cave]

seems normal to me, just no cliping with a sign

[wet timber]

sus sign

[static heart]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-break-in-half-upset-gif-8957735

[versed cave]

ALSO! I love how when disenfecting it causes pain. I always felt like pouring alchohol in a wound would hurt significantly and it adds some immersion.

[keen gorge]

Very unimmersive, alcohol is only supposed to go inside me, not on me

[versed cave]

❤️

[wet timber]

but it was in b41 already

[cunning turtle]

[pallid hinge]

15 pages of mods for B42 already

[cunning turtle]

[keen gorge]

The only thing faster than modders is rule 34

[pallid hinge]

[dusk plume]

is gabagool in B42?

[cyan blaze]

gabagool?

[dusk plume]

y'know, gabagool

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-james-gandolfini-gabagool-tony-soprano-gif-20757471

[hidden fox]

Gonna be honest i am not too much of a fan of getting tired just by pushing two zombies around

[torpid sonnet]

what does muscle strain really do? because I get it, but I've been able to pretty much just ignore it.

does it just make you do less damage? I know it makes your character have pain.

[dusk plume]

gives you pain and slows down actions that use your affected muscles

[finite tangle]

Has anyone else been getting newspapers from the future in the game lol

[hidden fox]

Gives you the pain status which i assume makes your attacks less effective and keeps you from successfully climbing tall fences

[torpid sonnet]

oh ok thanks

[hidden fox]

At least that's what pain did in b41

[finite tangle]

Thats exactly what it does makes your attacks slower aswell I believe

[opaque schooner]

wtf lol

[visual trail]

yes but take care most are re-uploaded by other users than the original authors

only enable the ones updated by the original modder

[pallid hinge]

yea I have no plans on modding atm cause devs won't accept bug reports from modded playthroughs

just looking through them to see whats up

[hallow adder]

Report it as a bug.

[vague trench]

lol

[pallid hinge]

!bugreports

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[visual trail]

there is more to come on crafting and fixing before MP

anyway you can't disassemble digital watches atm

[torpid sonnet]

do you guys know how to update your mod to show up on build 42?

not like making it compatible, just making it show up.

[visual trail]

the screwdriver is not recognized as such by the crafting UI

[pallid hinge]

you definitely can - I disassembled 40 watches last night

[hidden horizon]

Still no one

[visual trail]

I can't

[pallid hinge]

[visual trail]

the craft option doesn't turn green and there is no context menu

[pallid hinge]

very weird

[visual trail]

I have like 2 screwdrivers in inventory

[torpid sonnet]

I've heard they don't give xp anyways

[keen gorge]

They do?

[hallow adder]

One to disassemble, one to stab in the throat.

[torpid sonnet]

oh, nvm then.

[hallow adder]

Talk about "organizing"...

[pallid hinge]

They do!

[visual trail]

XP factors can be adjusted in settings

you can make it like B41 if you like

[pallid hinge]

I got electrical 1 from those dismantles

[visual trail]

hope you don't but still

[hallow adder]

(The whole point is to test the B42 default sandbox changes, and let the devs tweak the baseline values until it's ready for Stable branch.)

[visual trail]

I can't find a way to lvl that skill

[keen gorge]

Carpentry (and probably welding but I haven't tested yet) I think are the only ones hit with the disassembly nerf

[visual trail]

no crafting skill grants XP apart from electrical and mechanics in terms of dismantlement

[hallow adder]

(This is the case with Muscle Strain Factor in v42.01 hotfix patch update. Devs changed the new baseline to be x0.6 of the original in v42.0.0)

[pallid hinge]

Vanilla vehicles animated got updated, damn that is tempting - even though I am not gonna do it cause I want to report bugs

[hallow adder]

(Why am I still using the parentheses...?)

[visual trail]

filibuster?

[pallid hinge]

The Alpha version is available

[visual trail]

damn

[pallid hinge]

(I am in his discord - this is why I know this xD)

[torpid sonnet]

does muscle strain get reduced by strength?

[visual trail]

so tempting rn

[keen gorge]

No

[hallow adder]

Official announcement from Lemmy about Gun Aiming mechanic: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hjfzuv/psa_regarding_gun_aiming_rework/

Just published

[visual trail]

at lvl 10 strength

[keen gorge]

Although go below 5 strength and I think it accumulates faster

[pallid hinge]

ty for this, I shall read

[visual trail]

Lemmy back on Reddit, good times

[keen gorge]

This tracks. Redditors are massive nerds

Those guys will drop down massive math formulas just to prove you're wrong

[past spear]

holy shit i just heard a wolf, great ambience

[vague trench]

noice

[static heart]

repost

[keen gorge]

Bone and stone spears are pretty strong

I could swear spears overall seem to crit more to compensate for the fact they swing slower

[visual trail]

He goes on talking about arrows and bolts and throwing rocks at windows, I love it !

[hallow adder]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-dance-dancing-happy-dance-jam-gif-1484580243381714550

[visual trail]

so archery is on it's way

[pallid hinge]

catJAM https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jam-nod-pet-kitty-gif-17932554

[remote pendant]

i need a damn tutorial on this crafting lmfao

[hallow adder]

Wait about a week or so. Heard the prominent PZ Youtubers are going to making a crafting guide soon.

At least, Private Lime is making a multi-part guide for Build 42.

[pallid hinge]

So he shoots at the car's windows - tbh I wanted him to shoot at the tires... show me the popping of tires!

[keen gorge]

Raid gunstores and camping stores week 1 for the magazines

[hallow adder]

Or you can just spawn into a new world, and pop some tires with your spawn guns.

[visual trail]

nice rework for aiming and I'm sure by the time stable will drop they will figure it out

like he said there are maybe some bugs that they don't know of yet

[remote pendant]

anyone living at mccoy estate or anywhere with crafting stations, im guessing not all the stations are functional atm? theres a big ass furnace i cant interact with

[opaque schooner]

There’s tons of servers to meet people on

[opaque schooner]

They should work

[pallid hinge]

Good call, I shall test.

[visual trail]

I have found a metal bandsaw attached to a generator underneath the tools store in Riverside that worked

so metal bandsaw workstation works, next to it was a drill press which wasn't functional

[remote pendant]

no idea what this does but it looks cool

[visual trail]

and you can't do anything ?

[keen gorge]

That works

[hallow adder]

The furnace being this large is very unrealistic...

[remote pendant]

any clue on how to use it

[visual trail]

because that's a high tier furnace

[keen gorge]

Just right click

[static heart]

right click on it @remote pendant

[visual trail]

not a workstation

[forest shore]

Ah so the system does work the way I thought it did. I wasn't positive. I really like the new gunplay personally.

[visual trail]

lucky you, blacksmithing just got interesting

[keen gorge]

Anyone wants a cheat sheet for the new crafting magazines, here's the places they should spawn in descending order

1. Survivor homes/survivor zeds
2. Gun stores
3. Camping stores
4. Residences
5. Libraries

[remote pendant]

holup i figured it out, the place you have to click is in such a weird spot

[remote pendant]

honestly go to mccoy estate, its got a bit of a horde that spawn there so be careful

[static heart]

i just want to build a primitive furnace but it's so hard...

[visual trail]

same, after I'm finished with agriculture, I'm building my fkin furnace !

[forest shore]

Yea the primitive furnace is a bear to build... Would be a lot easier if clay was easier to find, but I've found one piece.

[static heart]

my problem is not clay, my problem are shovel + bucket + sandbags

[forest shore]

All those are nearly impossible to get for you aren't they

[static heart]

like you need modern tools to build a primitive furnace wtf @forest shore

[vague trench]

where are you located at?

[visual trail]

clay can be found with foraging and if you are close to a river's bank you will find a lot

[static heart]

just get stone and clay

[static heart]

north of riverside, i went to the tools store rn

[forest shore]

Yea that's what I noticed too. I don't know of any primitive tools you can make to replace the modern ones - I'm assuming it's just cuz unfinished tech trees.

[torpid sonnet]

I think the best way to balance it would to just make strength reduce muscle strain. Like at level 10 strength and level 5 fitness my character should be getting exerted before having muscle strain.

[visual trail]

yes

most primitive crafting is not available atm

[static heart]

i want this furnace https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WH2cWDDuCOQ?feature=share

[visual trail]

it's first beta, there will be more to come

[keen gorge]

I mean irl technique more often determines how long you can swing a weapon for instead of brute strength/stamina

[remote pendant]

any clue on how to make coke

[static heart]

my problem is not that some primitive crafting are missing, it's just not balanced

[torpid sonnet]

so weapon skill?

[visual trail]

well you can't craft a wooden bucket for instance

[static heart]

you can @visual trail

[vague trench]

but my star pillow lol

[static heart]

but it required nails and some modern tools @visual trail

[visual trail]

how? cauz I can't disassemble watches lmao

ahh no, I mean using primitive tools

[static heart]

oh

[forest shore]

I believe someone did testing on this the other day - the consensus was strength and weapon skill reduce muscle strain

[visual trail]

like wooden nails or such

[static heart]

ye

also why need sand for a primitive furnace ?

[visual trail]

adhesive material

[keen gorge]

I dunno, on my tests, the difference between 5 strength and 10 strength (0 on weapon skills) is like 1-2 additional zombies killed before strain kicks in

[forest shore]

I can understand the need for sand. If you've ever seen molten metal drop on water you'd see why.

[visual trail]

clay + sand, it sticks together nicely

[static heart]

uhm ok but then you need a shovel and we can't craft any primitive shovels

[visual trail]

that's what I'm talking about

the primitive part is missing

[static heart]

i get your point

[visual trail]

like a wooden shovel, bucket, nail, hammer, something to help out

[static heart]

didn't they publish the tech tree a long time ago ?

[visual trail]

carved ones, but harder to obtain from bones or wood

but not like this locking behind different skills, modern tools and such

[vague trench]

i have been finding them where you would ; sheds, buildings that would have that type of stuffs

[visual trail]

they have but they are not complete

we got initial crafting like the blog said

surface to get acquainted to and some other option but I think the big is yet to come

[keen gorge]

Knapping is really underbaked right now and I'm pretty sure a large portion of the primitive stuff hinges on that skill

[static heart]

tech tree of knapping

there is a lot missing in this unstable as you can see

also you would need a sack to transport sand for you primitive furnace

[forest shore]

I just tested it in debug mode - there is a significant difference between level 0 and level 10 strength when swinging a weapon

[keen gorge]

I haven't updated. That was before the 0.6 change to strain

Although I'm pretty sure it's mostly because 10 strength gives you more damage so you need to swing less instead of being a straightforward reduction

[forest shore]

No it's quite literally a straight forward reduction in strain.

[visual trail]

lol we got like maybe 30% of it

maybe and that sack required is a showstopper atm

[forest shore]

You can see this if you go into debug mode and look at the health screen. It gives you exact stats of what the strain value is. With level 0 weapon and strength it's something like .9 strain (I'm not sure how to log the exact value) and with level 10 both weapon and strength that drops to about .07 (which actually means you swing indefinitely without ever getting strained)

[pallid hinge]

alright I tested with a police officer character, and it seems like it just goes for the windows even if you are aiming at the tires - at least for now, maybe that will get sorted out in the future

[heady field]

anyone know if burglar magazine is from a mod or vanilla? I forgot

[lament cedar]

Water purification tablets don't seem to work

[forest shore]

Mod.

[heady field]

I see, thanks

[versed cave]

I have a fun way to hunt rather than shooting

drive on the four lane and when you see some pesky animals hit them

then put them in your vehicle and leave

[forest shore]

I've done that on accident a few times lol

Always when I'm trying not to

[finite tangle]

Hey is there away to debug away a bite. I got bitten by a zombie that was invisible

[chilly atlas]

yes, but i think the next time u get infected u will die instantly

[knotty yew]

yep, just boot the game with -debug entered into your game’s properties

[chilly atlas]

u can clear the infection thru debug but idk if u can clear the infection timer

[knotty yew]

I think you have to enable health cheats specifically but I don’t remember if there’s a special step for that or if you can just enable health cheats once you enter your save with debug mode enabled

[knotty yew]

it does both, I once had to use that because a mod that let me use other stuff as can openers back in b41 made my character auto use my bloody axe instead of the can opener in my inventory (said mod made it so bloody items used as can openers give you the knox infection )

[finite tangle]

Thanks guys Ill give that a go. Ive never encountered a but like that in the game until this point so Im just gonna cheat it away since it wasnt exactly fair

[slate sentinel]

If you’re testing muscle strain, count the number of hits and not zombie kills maybe

[chilly atlas]

the knox infection i mean. like, it takes time to zombify

[finite tangle]

how do i get to the games properties? Woops used a bad guide

[knotty yew]

yeah ik what you mean but the “timer” just manifests through ticking up your “sick” stat until it reaches a fever and kills you. if you turn off “isinfected” for your character in debug you stop gaining that sick moodle and it goes down on its own

[chilly atlas]

if u clear the infection but not the timer, the next time u get bit the game is like "uve been sick for more than 3 days, time to die"

[languid dome]

Add sex

[chilly atlas]

no its a different mechanic

[knotty yew]

I literally checked this in debug mode that’s how it works, what are you on about?

[chilly atlas]

ive had it happen to me before cos of a mod. i got bit & without any indicator i instantly died, cos the game suddenly acknowledged that i had been infected more than 3 days ago

[knotty yew]

“isinfected” tells the game to progressively make you more and more sick until you die

[chilly atlas]

it might be fixed in b42? but it is like this in b41

I'll test this later tbh