Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[silver otter]

Someone wants to play together?!!!

[blazing coral]

brave of them to add the build 42 tag to the workshop anyway

[static heart]

there is no multiplayer

[silver otter]

DM IF YOU WANNA PLAY!

[heavy crown]

If you have to share your save, they will know. They have to waste time reading and trying to repro something that's mod-specific, that's time they're not spending on bugs affecting everyone

[static heart]

they don't ask for the save file

[mossy delta]

that's not really a good place to search for people, people here talk about b42 so try this better #1019737819981283459

[vague trench]

lol theyre excited

[mossy delta]

beb

[outer rock]

Why? No food, no tools, no books etc.

[worn dust]

its... not letting me make a campfire

pls help

[dim venture]

@glacial cape @chrome fable found it

[static heart]

try with the crafting menu rather than right-clicking

i mean the building menu

[worn dust]

i did u have 3 stones but its not letting me build

[static heart]

lemme try a second

[dim venture]

anyone know if they fixed crude whetstone??? couldn’t craft it before and not mentioned in notes

[worn dust]

pls thank u

[static heart]

they said "fixes recipes for knapping" soo

[dim venture]

i mean i guessss

[civic drum]

All right, so with some experimentation, generators do not extend power to basements.

[worn dust]

got it was too dark to build

[static heart]

yes it is

i just tried

[dim venture]

nice finally

don’t even know what it’ll do but nice finally

[civic drum]

My kingdom for a mod that lets me wash clothes in rain barrels and/or restores plumbing sinks to rain barrels. I'm having to wash my stuff in puddles!

[dim venture]

maybe fixes the new worn mechanic

[wraith rune]

Christmas means nothing to the devs so long as they can push out peak content for their community

[spare breach]

went into a very normal looking house... the fucking household had like 100 toilet paper stored in it

[dim venture]

pre covid

[spare breach]

ITS EVEN IN THE FRIDGE

[dim venture]

pre knox?

they knew

[spare breach]

theres literally nothing of value, all i found was around 150 toilet paper and a loaf of bread

[dim venture]

mush em all up and make paper and write a book

[glad pawn]

I thought zombies couldnt break metal fences pre b42 but im watching a vid and they clearly can

[chrome fable]

Okay so now my game at least doesn't crash when I start a new game, but I get a black screen when I load in. I know I loaded in because I can hear footsteps when I press WASD. I guess that's a step forward at least

[vague trench]

yes there are

[heavy crown]

They could break gates before, but not the non-gate part

[glad pawn]

No? I video im watching rn has normal non gates being broken

[chrome fable]

Nice

[chrome fable]

I'll try reopening the game, maybe that'll help

[heavy crown]

Can you link the video?

[summer hull]

anyone who had RAM issues before, have yall tested the new patch? is it playable now?

[wise yacht]

Patchnotes - "Very Long Stick" renamed to "Long Stick". It's still way above average ok.

[chrome fable]

I'll tell you once I'll be able to play the game

[wise yacht]

is very funny

[glad pawn]

https://youtu.be/_71npBAQ70k?si=of0qjbohXX9VLhTN

[heavy crown]

Timestamp as well?

[glacial cape]

If their goal is to have a post apocalyptic medieval sort of society/technology level, I'd imagine there will be eventual decay of the machines, cars, gas etc and you can only expand their life span for a short while with looted components/parts but eventually those looted ones will break down

[heavy crown]

Taking a quick glance it could have been modded fences to be breakable since that has a ton of mods just looking at the first five seconds.

[glacial cape]

it would be interesting and add way more to the immersion and natural decay of the surroundings, like buildings and roads and if you're not a fan of that stuff maybe add a sandbox option to disable it?

[pallid hinge]

Rick's playthroughs usually involve a ton of mods

[unborn thorn]

Oh yeah they added that as a joke back when Covid was the big thing. After the joke got old they set it to be a rare event.

[civic drum]

Is matter replication of bowls and pots gone?

[dim venture]

this is actually what i always thought if they really wanted to expand the end game.

it seemed like rn they focused on optional things but if they want you to actually have more things to do then there needs to be more forced events like stuff breaking down or whatever

[dim venture]

meant to reply to this

[scenic gazelle]

Holy shit
some cars can have grocery bags in their trunks, really nice

[dim venture]

but roads breaking down wouldn’t rly be realistic unless it’s a super long playthrough

[normal python]

I wonder when expanded helicopter events will update

[spare breach]

the black van i have had around 15

im set for life

[glacial cape]

Fair enough, but it would be nice immersion sake

[glacial cape]

Yeah this might be a thing for later builds rather than build 42, I';m just hoping we get a lot more out of the crafting since that is one of the main focuses on the update

[silk nova]

sadly i saw i cannot place the lantern on the ground and turn it on

[pallid hinge]

🤣

Thing is so heavy, I wonder how many are in here

wish it was nails though tbh

[static heart]

Ye

[civic drum]

12 boxes of nails = 1 carton of nails. I assume it's the same for screws.

[static heart]

Did they change the item available through foraging did they add nails ?

Cause I found a box a screw earlier

[civic drum]

Also I found 8 cartons of nails at McCoy's. Probably way more than i'll ever need.

[hallow sail]

😛

[pallid hinge]

Oh sick

[hallow sail]

Yo guys does this hotfix mean i need to make a new world?

[pallid hinge]

no

[scenic gazelle]

I had to pick up a car and make a run for it to the highway, didn't pack much, only my clothing and some food, no water.
then in the highway crossroad that connects muldraugh and rosewood, I found a car with groceries in it's trunk, really nice, kept me alive for days

[glacial cape]

if anyone is playing axe man and is struggling to find a axe, make a stone axe they seem to be way more durable now I was using one to chop a bunch of trees and didn't lose durability havent tested fighting against zombies though

[eternal stump]

stop hating on it is an great mod you should read description

[pallid hinge]

ohh I will have to try this! ty

[hallow sail]

whats the recipe? also does chopping tress give carpentry yet?

[dusk plume]

Chill out I was joking

[eternal stump]

you shouldnt mess with bandits

[glacial cape]

you have to forage for a flint module, tree branch and stone but you could pick the stone up from the ground, then you knap out the flint to a sharp flint flake afterwards go into survival and combine the knapped out flint with the tree branch and an rag, also as tree chopping doesn't give carpentry xp but sawing the logs into planks does

[hallow sail]

very informative. very epic. thanks!

[dim venture]

i wouldn’t rly know how to build a dresser by wacking a tree hard

it shouldn’t be a thing tbh

axe exp yes tho

[hallow sail]

real

[glacial cape]

True, are you sure about trees giving axe xp? I wasn't getting any although I've got 0 bonuses towards axes/axe combat(same with maintenance xp)

[pallid hinge]

I can test it

[vague trench]

how screwy

lol get it

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[pallid hinge]

just chopped down two trees, no axe xp given

[dim venture]

noo i was saying axe exp yes should be given

[pallid hinge]

ahh

[glacial cape]

oh mb

[dim venture]

if u ever got axe exp it’s bc there’s a popular mod

overhauls axes or whatever

[glacial cape]

It'd be nice if you got xp due to weapon usage

[worn dust]

i tried looting the army surplus store

[glacial cape]

like butchering animals giving short blade xp

you're getting more familiarity with it after all

[worn dust]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-gif-705829194042584208

[exotic flame]

i take it did not end well?

[dim venture]

honestly weapon exp as a whole is kinda weird.
10 levels of short blunt, what exactly are you learning?

only long blade and maybe axe makes sense

[worn dust]

my cars tire blew

[glacial cape]

How to bonk better 😂

[worn dust]

leaving me in a very messy situation where i had to jump ou leaving everything behind

as i run a very strong a crazy zomboid snatched me ripping off my duffel bag from my back tearing a deep cut into my torso

as i run to the surplus to seek a weapon to fight back.

[dim venture]

weapon levels would be better if leveling up gave u unique perks like long blade beheading for instant kill for example but sadly don’t think it would ever be a thing

[worn dust]

a alarm goes off a car alarm goess off and the game deemed a perfect time for 4 car alarms to go off

so yeah went great!

[blazing coral]

just a normal thursdoid

[pallid hinge]

Beautiful

[hallow sail]

how do i equip a weapon in my backpack slot?

[dim venture]

can’t wait for bows to never loot a gun store again

bows>

[dusk echo]

If the shooting mechanics get fixed

[pallid hinge]

I think that is for like the sleeping bag they added

[glacial cape]

Bows and crossbows would be baller, side note man why is the damn composter gated behind level 6 carpentry

[hallow sail]

oh shiiiit okay i

[dusk echo]

Missing 60% of shots aimed directly at a zed's head at aiming level 5 with veteran/brave is wild

[hallow sail]

'll put my sleeping bag in it

[dim venture]

nature needs to know if ur worthy before doing their work

[pallid hinge]

it is!

[hallow sail]

beautiful! i just put my bag in it

[glacial cape]

Nevermind I'm an idiot

[dim venture]

still ain’t it just a box

[pallid hinge]

SO GOOD

[dim venture]

peak

also did u just abandon ur server

[pallid hinge]

They are all playing PoE2 and stuff so yea basically

they will come back when B42 MP comes out

[glacial cape]

yeah but I was thinking of making some for the new crops

[dim venture]

yeah while i’m sad mp not out atleast it means once it is out and i can finally get my cousin back on it’ll be more polished for him

[blazing coral]

we get skills from watching tv shows? I didn't read these magazines

[pallid hinge]

For sure, the sad part is I will be ahead of them on knowledge again about the new stuff... Kinda wish it was released at the same time so that we could learn it together, and explore together

[glacial cape]

with how long they take to grow, and the growing season I could stack up a lot of compost to accelerate growth and increase harvest yield getting the most out of them

[dim venture]

it’s a good thing for me bc my cousin played with mods at first so if it came out, even if we’re both learning there’s gonna be a lot of “no it doesn’t exist that was a mod” from me

[worn dust]

chat am i cooked ?

[pallid hinge]

But on the flip side it is good that someone will have answers so that I can lead them I guess

[pallid hinge]

🤣 true

[hallow sail]

FUCKIIINNN BINGOOOOO

[worn dust]

dude same i actually wondered why i couldnt pry shit open

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/push-cto-solana-push-cat-push-gif-4459332117552319716

[pallid hinge]

Lucky!

[worn dust]

hmm do you think theres anything in that surplus that shall save me?

[vague trench]

LOL

[pallid hinge]

I mean in B41 it was filled to the brim with guns and ammo, so I imagine so

[worn dust]

sneak in ?

[hallow sail]

we're so back

[pallid hinge]

lure, loot and scoot

[worn dust]

fair enough

lemme cook

[hallow sail]

also guys i was almost underweight but found 4 cartons of ice cream and now i'm 85 kgs again

[pallid hinge]

🧑‍🍳

[visual trail]

every axe is way more durable than before, including hatchets up to the point it's absurd because I was able to deforest an area without breaking one....

and I don't have the axeman trait

[pallid hinge]

I broke a hatchet already 😦

So I was worried, so I have been collecting the axes and not using them

[visual trail]

I can't explain atm but one classic hatchet is the winner, never breaks apparently

[glacial cape]

Guessing durability damage is similar vs zombies but they're greater vs trees

honestly I'm all for it, in return we've lost passive axe/maintenance xp but having the ability to chop wood/clear trees without having to worry about your axe is nice

[visual trail]

durability loss you mean, yes I think something has changed or it's bugged.

[glacial cape]

Hoping its an intended change

[hidden path]

guys if you vault on the top of the stairs you can glitch into the room next to it going through walls too

[visual trail]

not worrying about your axe if you chop maybe 1-2 trees, but not a huge chunk of forest

also super big exploit with the rest / exercise combo

[late folio]

what are all these germany references
Brandenburg. Frankfort and the ample lmao

[opaque schooner]

There is?

[visual trail]

my god man :)) it's funny as hell

while resting > open up exercise > start and watch the xp to strength and fitness, also fast forward time so it's easy to notice

[hallow sail]

huh...

[opaque schooner]

You can rest and exercise at the same time?

[glacial cape]

Yeah not saying it should be invincible but before stone axes couldn't even chop down a single tree

[visual trail]

yes

[opaque schooner]

lol wtf

[glacial cape]

Lmao

[blazing coral]

another thing I missed because I used a mod for so long: fuel side indicator!

[mossy tangle]

Am I crazy or do stone tools not degrade when you use them? I've cut like 20 trees with this axe no damage

[opaque schooner]

I heard axes don’t degrade as easily now when cutting trees

[hallow sail]

yeah we were just talking about this lol

[mossy tangle]

Lmao what what are the chances my bad!

[glacial cape]

np

[mossy tangle]

Am I right in assuming a metal axe stills cuts faster?

[vague trench]

lol quick hurry we must deforest

[worn dust]

there were too many they destroyed my civilian vest i had to retreat

[visual trail]

rest, open exercise and have fun

[pallid hinge]

[worn dust]

maybe someday ill get that car back

[glacial cape]

Can anyone else spam fast forward & walk to?

[vague trench]

nopers , the walk to button?

[hallow sail]

yo what menu do you make a workbench?

[glacial cape]

Man is it gonna suck when this, the high durable stone axes and the coffee in a can of pop gets patched lol

[vague trench]

i was just thnking that , is sodies still op?

[glacial cape]

yes

[visual trail]

all axe durability is too high atm

[vague trench]

lol time to hoard them then rofl

[glacial cape]

against zombies as well or is it only trees?

[pallid hinge]

yea, I tested as soon as the hotfix went live lol

[glacial cape]

I haven't done any axe combat

[visual trail]

it's not the combat it's other actions like chopping trees

[glacial cape]

yh ik I was just asking

[dawn elm]

nice

[visual trail]

and I have sawed a ton of logs and the saw didn't loose any condition

[blazing coral]

Why can't I place a mousetrap? It's red everywhere I try

[rare sparrow]

whats the chickenpocalypse? the many chickens at once in the rural town?

[glacial cape]

yeah me neither

[heavy crown]

Chickens breeding in a positive feedback loop

[vague trench]

like so many it drops your fps to like 3 lol

[summer hull]

just tested it, no improvement...

[vague trench]

whers the gobbleoclapyse

[mossy tangle]

Although honestly its so simple to make a stone axe that its fair enough I guess were just avoiding making a million which honestly feels less immersive

as long as better axes cut faster thats fine by me

[rare sparrow]

i dunno why but I kinda want to see a video of it

[vague trench]

wth is the trailer park in echo from here halp!!

wait nm the water

[hallow sail]

can this trailer transport animals or is it a different kind?

[blazing coral]

wait we get foraging exp just by entering the foraging state? Is this intended?

I started foraging, got like 15xp for like 6-8 times and then it stopped

[mossy tangle]

Thats happened to me too

[vague trench]

yah i found sheep in one of mine , check the back of it and make sure

[visual trail]

this gives me so much hope for horses maybe later

[velvet egret]

go north

[hallow sail]

there was animal feed in it

there was also a dozen piglets right by the trailer but when i picked one up it said couldn't find mother. do i need their mother too to raise them?

[cobalt dawn]

how the hell did this get here in the first place lol
||that trailer was my spawn and the car spawned next to it, before thinking about it i got a can of gas up the road but no rubber hose, i filled up the car, and it was just then the realization hit me||

[vague trench]

lol that happened to me i was like ok lol

[vague trench]

i think so because they drink milk

[heavy crown]

Retanaru had a chickenpocalypse on his day 2 stream. If someone can find the timestamp on the VOD we can showcase the devastation

I’m out and about right now so I can’t find it for another hour or so

[chilly atlas]

nooooooooo

[velvet egret]

anyone else also getting significant muscle strain after hopping a tall fence once or twice?

[heavy crown]

Yeah it gives a ton

The success rate is also a lot lower, which is perfectly fine with me tbqh

[vague trench]

i just did it 4 times and only got minor

[pallid hinge]

is it still 1 electrical 2 mechanics for hotwiring?

[vague trench]

those are my traits thingies if helps at all

[pallid hinge]

takes so much longer to dismantle watches, holy moly

[opaque schooner]

You take so little traits

[vague trench]

lol why u think i only live like 5 days usually rofl

[opaque schooner]

Fair enough

[vague trench]

im adding to the zomber pops!

[opaque schooner]

Goals

[pallid hinge]

In B41 beta I did x8 pop unemployed no trait runs for the memes

[glacial cape]

Anyone know if feeding animals tainted water is safe?

[pallid hinge]

my pig seems fine with drinking it

[opaque schooner]

It should be, animals drink some pretty gross stuff anyways

[pallid hinge]

yup. most animals have much better ability to deal with nasty water than humans and our sensitive stomachs

[glacial cape]

Just my animals seem to be constantly thirsty and I'm sick of having to hand feed them water/and or fill their troughs

[velvet egret]

idm the diminished success rate for hopping fences, but 9 Strength and 9 Fitness should not get muscle strain after hopping a fence once (I’m not over-encumbered either). Not sure if I’m doing something wrong or not considering other factors like a weapon on my back or tools on my belt

[glacial cape]

its getting really annoying to have to constantly boil water since plumbing hasn't been implemented yet

so no ones had animals die of tainted water?

[velvet egret]

yeah, and I heard it takes so many tries to hotwire

[pallid hinge]

[mossy tangle]

Has anyone successfully grown crops? mine keep dying

[glad pawn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386961288&searchtext=plumbing

[glad pawn]

they have growing seasons and take months now bro 😭

[hallow sail]

BRO THE ICE CREAM IS CALORIE TOWN. I'M 91 POUNDS

[glad pawn]

you also need to grow them on the ground

[mossy tangle]

Yeah it was supposed to be in season :/

[glacial cape]

I'm sticking strictly vanilla atm for now :)

[silk nova]

but is a bug that drinking soda take away the tiredness?

[pine verge]

Doesnt soda have caffeine

[vague trench]

yah , i think it just needs to be adjusted a bit its so strongk

supersodie

[heavy crown]

Sodie pop

[silk nova]

i was super tired ;finally, i drank like 1/4 and fresh like a rose

also the sleep have to be fixed i'm sleeping like one every tw days

[mossy tangle]

Devs plated a cruel joke with these boarded up crapshacks in muldraugh haha

[vague trench]

lol wtf

[severe egret]

Lmao someone placed this desk blocking the door XD

[pallid hinge]

Other than break a few doors down, I am mostly out of things to do in echo creek

[autumn pier]

this is fine

[opaque schooner]

How

[autumn pier]

[vague trench]

LOL w

moomart

that box and my curiosity got me deaded

[opaque schooner]

You didn’t eat it in time

[pallid hinge]

that is some big ass rat poison

[vague trench]

lol

[hearty pond]

Does there happen to already be a documentation about the new crafting system for modding?

[mild axle]

Id say 3 more patches before we get multiplayer maybe?

I dunno

[mossy tangle]

I can't seem to make dried balck beans in a pot of water

[pallid hinge]

Like 42.3 or 42.0.4?

[covert mortar]

did you accidentally pick up a small-sized car wtf

[hearty pond]

kinda want to see if "self running" crafting recipes are possible, without the player having to be there on the machine/crafting bench

[silk nova]

anyone know if usign tools for building crafting they lose condition?

[mossy tangle]

Is there an issue with boling water rightnow?

[vague trench]

yah i think so , i had to use a cooking pot

[mossy tangle]

Like the big pot? thats what I am tryng to use, weird

[vague trench]

hang on let me try

[brazen jetty]

How do I fill up empty lighters in B42?

[vague trench]

are yo uusing a camp fire or stove

[mossy tangle]

Barbeque lmao

[vague trench]

try the crafting menu?

[vague trench]

the red one?

[lilac sequoia]

Has anyone managed to put anything in jars?

[mossy tangle]

No the silver propane one

I have a red one want me to try it

[vague trench]

yah try the red one

[mossy tangle]

Yeah no good there either it stays tainted

[brazen jetty]

oh yes i need a special liquid
thought i can just use my gas can

[chrome fable]

guys did anyone manage to fix the bug with the black screen and freezing after trying to start a new game

[vague trench]

that grill?

[mossy tangle]

Yeah either that or the red one neither works

I can boil in a pan though, I have a pan, a pot and a suacepan all full and only the pan gets red

[vague trench]

it worked for me but the saucepan which i thnk they already know about

[mossy tangle]

Weird only the pan works for me

[vague trench]

lol that is weird

[mossy tangle]

and on the silver one even the pan doesn't heat up haha

[uneven gorge]

Are the crop growth times in days or hours?

[vague trench]

is this a new save?

[mossy tangle]

New for B42, but from yesterday

[static heart]

years ?

[rich shuttle]

Does the game render short distances for everyone? Looking far out enough allows you to see the void, and driving fast is problematic due to that. Is it a bug or intentional?

[chrome sierra]

tysm for optimization on amd cards finally

[vague trench]

you could , if you want to test it, try making a new save and see if it stil happens

[forest shore]

Do we need to run new saves for the patch?

[hearty pond]

there are still debug files in the crafting scripts that explain parts of the crafting system

[vague trench]

i think normally they will put if you do , if things start getting weird i would just start over

[mossy tangle]

Oh hey I fixed it

[vague trench]

what was it lol

[mossy tangle]

Picked up the bbq and replaced it down, now it boils pans AND pots but not saucepan still

[vague trench]

LOL what the hell thats so weird

[heavy crown]

Moving from 42.0.0 to 42.0.1, no.

Moving from 41 to 42, yes.

[forest shore]

Already on 42, was just talking about the hotfix

[heavy crown]

Saucepan is bugged

[vague trench]

it was doing it for large cooking pot for them lol

[mossy tangle]

Yeah large pot didn't work only a pan of water until I moved my bbq now it dores

[vague trench]

just had to jostle it around n put some sense into it haha

[mossy tangle]

Btw does anyone remember how long 41 unstable lastest?

[silent dragon]

This is a bigger unstable

[hallow adder]

About a year

[keen yarrow]

It's been a long time since we've gotten patchnotes for PZ. Glad to see we're back with that!

[vague trench]

yar! lol were halping guys

[wild oak]

id imagine it might go by faster since theres so many people

[turbid gorge]

yeah it lasted about a year

b42 will still be slapping new features in for at least 6 months or so

i predict tweaks to crafting, more animations and more animals probably including cats and dogs and wolves/bears

as well as an armada of bug fixes

i havent tested if the new fire system was added because

https://tenor.com/view/hotel-t2-hotel-transylvania-scared-scream-ahhhh-gif-4158698

fire bad

[heavy crown]

Did the hotfix make resting on chairs just sitting next to them?

[mossy tangle]

Cats and dogs would be so cool honestly

a cat crusing around the base would be rad

[nova iron]

My CPU is the bottle neck in this game because it’s a dual core 2.4GHz so it can’t run the game for shit

[chrome fable]

yeah that's not happening

[chrome fable]

do you also get black screens and crashes when trying to load a save

[scenic gazelle]

I am very happy that I finally found a canteen, but it only holds 500ML
why is that.

[nova iron]

Nope

My game has never crashed

[pallid hinge]

I was just timed out for "blocked formatting"

[heavy crown]

Don't use too much markdown (e.g. links or trying to use headers)

[pallid hinge]

No use of links or headers in what I said

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/woah-bruh-john-cena-stunned-stare-gif-17449522

[hearty pond]

any form of text manipulation/formatting with special characters in discord is markdown

[autumn pier]

Me watching snow fall on first fay of CDDA

[edgy surge]

sadge, just checked if the recent unstable update helped with the ram memory leak and it didnt ._., saw it start up with less, but after 20s on menu it still spiked up high n i had to tm end it

[pallid hinge]

Was just trying to add to the animal convo lol

[hearty pond]

I am kinda thinking of trying my hand at adding bees and related workstations

just maybe not as proper animals, lol

[pallid hinge]

Sorry mods/devs - please don't ban me

[opaque schooner]

What part of this was bad lol

[mossy tangle]

Yeah thats helpful haha

[pallid hinge]

Exactly!

[formal mango]

Generally a good idea to simply reach out to the moderators by DMing the bot instead of making it a thing in chat 🙂

[pallid hinge]

Fair, sorry nasko!

[formal mango]

This is because of the moratorium on the AI discussion, it catches a ton still, chat about it would dominate some channels and those convos generated a ton of reports for the moderation staff.

It's inconvenient, but when we catch a false positive, we unmute. Sadly can't catch em all in time.

[pallid hinge]

Ahh makes sense!

[opaque schooner]

Yeah fair enough

[formal mango]

Np, this is kinda silly after all, but sadly had to be done 😄

[mossy tangle]

Agreed haha

[pallid hinge]

Yea I can totally understand that, it was getting exhausting for me, I can only imagine how it was for you all

[forest shore]

Is there news on if we'll get a animated background again or loading screens? At least placeholders so we can have custom?

[opaque schooner]

Just mod a custom menu man

[forest shore]

We can do that to a limited point but not video files. And can't do loading screens.

[hearty pond]

i'd assume its gonna take a while, considering its the holidays

[velvet egret]

fire rework has not been added and it’s not a priority atm

[glad pawn]

was the plumbing tiles issue fixed?

[glad pawn]

custom home images already exists you can mod them in

[pallid hinge]

Just want to say thank you and everyone else for all the work you have done - beautiful update to a beautiful game. I am super proud to be a part of this community for all these years ❤️

[forest shore]

Yea but not loading sreens

[formal mango]

Not yet

[slim merlin]

What this guy said. Build 42 is fantastic so far outside of the bugs expected from unstable.

Been following this game since 2012 and I always tell people that complain about update wait times that the wait is ALWAYS worth it.

Baldspot my beloved

[forest shore]

I'm loving the update a lot, been wasting days on it.

[queen shadow]

Same, I havent been playing this much zomboid in ages

[velvet egret]

spending* not wasting if you’re loving the days spent on update 🤓

[queen shadow]

Only "Complaint" that I have is that I cant pick up string lights and that they dont light up but thats definitnely not a priority rn lol. B42 is amazing as it is

[true smelt]

Hello Nasko! How are you? 🙂

I saw that the Lucky traits were removed in Build 42, and I came across information from a YouTuber who had contact with one of you, the devs, saying that the removal happened because, as the survival days go by, the loot in houses would become scarcer, since, to make it more realistic and to prevent the player from feeling ''alone'', ''survivors (off-screen)'' would be looting these locations. Is this information correct?

[heavy crown]

Oh god Cats Eyes does NOT help you in exurban darkness

[pallid hinge]

there is a option in the sandbox settings for loot diminishing, probably what they are refering to

[sleek hinge]

it doesnt help in exterior either, its not worth it right now

[true smelt]

Oh thanks

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[true smelt]

❤️

[halcyon echo]

So B42 unstable is out on Mac, right? Is the scaling problem for silicon mac fixed?

[rich shuttle]

Is the all encompassing black void beyond every 50 feet just a debug thing for now? I presume it’ll be changed later

[chrome fable]

Hi Nasko is there a chance that there will be one more patch before Christmas that could fix all the crashes? It's okay if you guys will have to postpone it until mid-January though, we can wait

[pallid hinge]

Whoa you can make the living undead smelly!

[spare field]

Do I need to start a new save for the muscle strain change to take effect? I have it set to the default amount on a sandbox run

Or what the default amount was before

[pallid hinge]

It was 1.0 before - I don't think it has changed, looking at the sandbox settings atm

[vague trench]

try it lol

[chrome fable]

Iirc there's a mod that lets you change sandbox settings mid-save and it was updated to b42, it's called "change sandbox settings in-game" or something like that

[pallid hinge]

probably will at some point! I always thought it was weird they only became stinky after you smashed them - you would be able to smell a zombie long before you saw it more than likely

[vague trench]

yah that would be so stinker

[spare field]

I was more curious if I have to change it or it’s gonna be reflected -> like if 1.0 strain is now 0.4 strain or if the sandbox value defaults to 0.4

[spare field]

Will def look into this thank you

[chrome fable]

gl bro

[severe egret]

Guys am i misunderstanding something, or is it possible to play "splitscreen" but across different PCs? I swear i saw someone saying this was possible

[pallid hinge]

I didn't see anything in the hotfix notes about fixes for the Mac client so likely hasn't been addressed yet

[pallid hinge]

Yes using Steam Remote Play Together

[severe egret]

I see. And this results in a full screen for each player?

[pallid hinge]

no it is still splitscreen

[severe egret]

Ah

[pallid hinge]

it is just acting like the two (or four) people are playing on the same screen, over the internet

[severe egret]

Man id love to see some games do coop on one machine but with the ability to split the screen across 2 monitors or smth

[pallid hinge]

1 person on KB, every other person will be controller (unless you all want to do controller)

[severe egret]

Hmm, mk this probs aint gonna cut it for us. Will just have to wait for MP

Thanks for the info man

[dim halo]

is anyone else unable to boot PZ up after the patch?

[chrome fable]

✋

[vague trench]

no problems here try verifying the cache ?

[dim halo]

did that, even tryed the other boot option

[vague trench]

what about reinstall?

could try that as last resort i guess

[vocal sentinel]

Is anyone else randomly running into things while driving cars?

like I keep running into objects that aren't there

[dim halo]

i mean i spose i can try that, annowing. but ill try

[vague trench]

yeah, sorry only thing i can think of

[forest shore]

Yea I did in my game - and it changes how I play a lot. Groups of 3 or 4 even can be a problem without a respirator.

[dim halo]

didint work

[vague trench]

damn

[forest shore]

Aw man, Rats can't be used in any cooking recipes?

[dim halo]

did ya bucher it first?

[forest shore]

It's skinned?

Ok I see now. I ended up with 'skinned' rats and mice, and not properly butchered ones? So I guess the right click option doesn't give you the same result..

[hallow sail]

anyone know how to get long sticks?

[dim halo]

ni iidea to be honnes

[forest shore]

I just find them foraging

[heady field]

anyone know what are the tools included in the multitool item?

[opaque schooner]

anyone know how to turn off auto resize resolution? its overriding any resolution changes i make

[ornate parcel]

They should fr make it so if you have a stuffed nose (a cold) you don’t take smell damage

[forest shore]

I didn't even realize the walls were that dirty to start. I was just trying to clean up the blood

[cedar nest]

damn youre going through it

[ornate parcel]

Screwdriver, knife, not sure about the rest

[heady field]

yeah I have trouble with this too, everything is too big on my small screen lmao

[opaque schooner]

im glad im not the only one man

[heady field]

maybe its based off the leatherdad multitool from some mod.
if yes then it also has plier n scissor too iirc

[ornate parcel]

Maybe bottle / can opener too?

[heady field]

my only issue is that the craft menu UI went off the screen xD
cant reach the tool selection UI

[heady field]

oh yes can opener too, bottle cap opener was pretty new in b42 but maybe its included

[opaque schooner]

oh thats annoying

[sleek hinge]

i would like to know the limits of crafting right now, what we can do with forge?

[glad pawn]

Rate my B42 base

[wild oak]

blue

[dim halo]

ive been planing to build a camp there when i head to MD

[nocturne briar]

I just want build 43

[glad pawn]

Good luck. The PD and gas station is absolutely infested

[fickle timber]

Thank God they renamed the traits back to the proper names

I hope Hemophobic makes a return

[cunning turtle]

[forest shore]

Is it intentional that barricading windows only takes planks now - no nails?

[cunning turtle]

10/10

[ornate parcel]

The planks are held up by friction with the window

[ornate parcel]

Where is this? 👀

[hot grail]

Muldraugh PD

[ornate parcel]

Dude good luck

Almost totaled a perfect car even just driving through the city, couldn’t imagine living there 😭

Looks great for a base though, if you ignore the horde

[twilit cedar]

Why so much negative on the new arts . Seems to me we are infiltrated by the degenerates

[cunning turtle]

Exactly

[ornate parcel]

I genuinely didn’t have a problem with anything except the moodles

[stray kettle]

So no amd card fix yet?

[twilit cedar]

I hate only the new combat nerf

[ornate parcel]

Don’t think so

[forest shore]

It's a bug - nails aren't consumed if they're in your backpack.

[ornate parcel]

I’m fine with that since you can adjust muscle strain factor

[twilit cedar]

We must not let the degenerates create their new NORMALIZED culture folks . Even the anime culture is being heavily attacks now

[forest shore]

I'll say the stuttering on steam deck is massively reduced, and I believe Steam Decks hardware is all AMD.

[twilit cedar]

True

[hot grail]

I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes them

[forest shore]

I love the new moodles.

[twilit cedar]

The new arts looks pretty good imo. Especially the new bob one

Feels like they over nerf us . They might change it back soon?

[ornate parcel]

I think the strain will definitely be reduced, since the feedback regarding it has been pretty negative

[cunning turtle]

They put it again?

[twilit cedar]

It makes x16 a really Btch

[cunning turtle]

Fr?

[ornate parcel]

Mfw they patch cheese tactics 😭🙏

[ornate parcel]

I haven’t heard a single guy say he likes the default 1.0 factor

Not a single one lmao

[waxen oar]

They will be lowering it in a future patch where the default will be 0.6 but in my opinion is should be 0.4 or 0.5

[heavy crown]

Survivor preset settings already has it at 0.5, and I think that's right for the mode

I don't see it getting nerfed too hard for Apocalypse settings tbqh, it seems fine for that specific setting

[forest shore]

I like it for myself personally - but I can see why a lot of people don't. It's a lot more challenging.

[waxen oar]

I love to make the game harder and want to play 16x zombies but with the 0.6 muscle strain I think that is still a bit much on me

[twilit cedar]

Even a 10/10 char is meh now with this new nerf

[vague trench]

muscle strain? i play on 1.0

i changed it to .5 and i thought i was going through zombies too fast

[ornate parcel]

You’re above us

[twilit cedar]

Does anyone feels like even athletic got nerf too?

[vague trench]

not really , just different goals i think in how we play

[forest shore]

I think 'butcher a small animal' is meant to use the skinned versions of the animals, not the whole animal...

[opaque schooner]

You eat the skin too like a watermelon rind

[forest shore]

I love my keychain.

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[forest shore]

I got 3 piglets AND two adult pigs in a trailer! Heck yea!

[cunning turtle]

[hallow sail]

stupid question. how do i add animal feed to a trough?

isn't this what pigs eat?

or can they eat grass like cows?

[pallid hinge]

It acts like a normal container

[hallow sail]

oh. duh...

[vague trench]

yay trotter city!1

[forest shore]

They're landrace pigs? I think?

[pallid hinge]

Don't worry I did the same thing 🙃

[forest shore]

It's ok, took me 5 minutes to figure out how to put the pigs in the trailer lmao

[hallow sail]

when i found my pigs in a trailer i attached it to my car and it instantly flipped

[forest shore]

That sucks lol

[vague trench]

LOL that happened to me and i had to like attach it upside down and it flipped back over

[forest shore]

I had to chase down the piglets. The two adults were in the trailer already. AND I just found ANOTHER trailer with two more pigs of a different breed! So I'll pigs for EONS!

[hallow sail]

i found a trailer with an adult pair and i kid you not 7 PIGLETS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD

[forest shore]

THATS WHAT I FOUND!

Wait - what if there's a glitch where animals are giving birth to babies and they're spawning outside the trailer? Because like 5 of mine were dead under the trailer (I butchered them, their loss will not be in vain)

[hallow sail]

i ran over two piglets trying to free the trailer.... from being flipped over...

[forest shore]

How does leathermaking work? What do I need to make to get started?

[vague trench]

Lmao pig patties

[hallow sail]

anyone know how to make pigs less stressed? i came home to 4 of my fences broken

[coral basin]

i wonder if you can fence craft fence the pigs in

[pallid hinge]

Yea my pig is stressed

I need to get more

[hallow sail]

my pig is stressed for seemingly no fucking reason and just breaking my stuff

[timid seal]

Are anyone else's sheet-covered window doors not using the new smooth opening animation when the sheet is on? Mine is smooth without the sheet, but as soon as I add the sheet on it reverts back to b41 style

[wet timber]

man i cant wait for the next hotfix

[hallow sail]

why was i given a pig with ADHD

[vague trench]

lol theres no zombies around?

[hallow sail]

not a SOUL

[vague trench]

lol

[forest shore]

The physics on the horse trailer is... A bit wonky.

[wet timber]

commit forums bug report

[forest shore]

Sweeeet I now have 3 Large Blacks (2 Sows 1 Boar) and 2 Landrace pigs (plus 4 piglets)

[vague trench]

lol wth is down there tha tdropped my fps that low

[wet timber]

zambies...

[vague trench]

-.- i want down ethere!!!

[pallid hinge]

all the rat kings

[real fox]

how does one shoot at zombie crawlers with the new crosshair system?

[opaque schooner]

i think its still bugged

[forest shore]

Ok this is annoying. On animal zones can I somehow shrink the zones?

I just ran over one of my Sows ;-;

[pallid hinge]

I think you have to remove the zone and recreate it

[real fox]

it used to be you used alt right?

[pallid hinge]

it was yea

[opaque schooner]

what?

[pallid hinge]

using right-alt allowed you to do a force ground attack/force ground shot (with a gun)

[vague trench]

Lol nooo

[opaque schooner]

oh sick

[thick laurel]

When are we getting dogs

[pallid hinge]

probably not till B43+ when the behavioral tree tech comes in

[thick laurel]

I can’t be John Wick till then

[cosmic yoke]

my two week old character just got bit on tha fucking handddddddddddddddddd 😭 chat is it joever. i think she can still get better

[cunning turtle]

It's joever

[pallid hinge]

It's Ogre

[real fox]

what are your thoughts up until they update as far as gun gameplay goes mid game? wanting to try out the new gun system but not sure if its feasible rn

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-dog-gif-15735278909360391194

[cosmic yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-fieropa-gif-18749821

[thick laurel]

Skin walker

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[pallid hinge]

So far I have only messed with the shotgun, and it seemed very viable - I was having fun blasting zombies (I was trying to use it to lure them away from the shooting range in Echo Creek so I could get more ammo)

[thick laurel]

I guess a skin walker would be a good companion for zombie apocalypses?

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[thick laurel]

They’re smarter and stronger than dogs

[real fox]

nice ill keep this in mind, i guess once i get my aiming high enough shorter guns will be easier ofc as like the previous versions

[cunning turtle]

You're right tho

[pallid hinge]

from what I have read so far the pistol they hand you at the start is pretty viable, just gotta click on their heads

[woven beacon]

Make it happen devs 🙏 I can swing a hammer just as good as any carpenter, builder or mechanic!

[past pewter]

I’m really liking the new zombie spawns. I’m not sure if this is placebo but it’s a lot more immersive to see police officers and fire fighters without long hair.

Like the firefighters at rosewood mainly had dudes with the signature mustache

Same with paramedics who have short hair or tied back in a pony tail

[woven beacon]

Makes sense

[past pewter]

Again not sure if that’s just what I’ve been seeing and it’s a placebo but it’s just something I’ve noticed

[cunning turtle]

Idk if it's something placebo but the game now feels like a movie

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160784514633715744/1312620361237528667/attachment.gif

[past pewter]

I’ve found a few things that feel like a movie.

A single police zombie was banging on the door from inside the armory at the Rosewood PD

I found a rich stock exchange guy zombified on the side of the road. He had a suitcase, gold ingot, and money scattered around with his beamer having a cracked windshield. I killed him and took his fancy boots.

[scenic gazelle]

You gotta be kidding me.
there are MULTIPLE armour options now.
even TIRE armour, Magazine, BONE armor

holy shit, Indie Stone.

[hallow sail]

anyone got any tips on getting carpentry exp?

[scenic gazelle]

sawing logs gives you small amounts of exp
I personally stick to VHS, books and dismantling stuff

iirc barricading also gives you exp

Oh, in early days you can watch Life and Living channel, they teach Fishing and carpentry

[lament crow]

so for the people who ruined their 42 save with mods, are there any mods that add the cheatmenu in or anything

I need to know cuz im literally stuck atm and need dat menu

[vague trench]

Tire armor so youll never get tire'd lol

[dim venture]

is it me or is everyone extra in love with literature now

[pallid hinge]

stuck? how so?

you can always use -debug

[dim venture]

finding more readables than anything

[lament crow]

arent we in debug already? also type "Boiling water" in the server search and youll see what i mean

and before you ask, no im nowhere near civilisation, and ive only got so many containers

[vague trench]

I love all the named shtuffs

[pallid hinge]

nope just in unstable, if you are on steam right click on PZ->Properties->and find Launch Options type "-debug" you can do a ton of things cheatmenu does (even more technically)

[vague trench]

No, we are given just things to help with reports

Like for coordinates

[forest shore]

I found it guys!

[lament crow]

aight bet thanks

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[vague trench]

I just came from there, really cool stuff i took a coffin lol

[lament crow]

fuuuuuuuc i thought that'd do the trick, but it is truly all water and fire containers

I tried filling an empty plastic bottle to see if that'd work still nada

[vague trench]

You cant fill water containers?

[lament crow]

no i can, i like the new system its kinda cool i was just refering to what i said in backrooms about not being able to boil tainted water pups

[vague trench]

Ahh

[lament crow]

I thought that maybe transfering some of the water from a diffrent container to a water bottle might work but still nope

im hoping with debug i can spawn in a new bottle or change the tainted stat or delete the old ones or something

[forest shore]

I don't have the means to clear it right now - but I definitely need to make a trip to go explore it some more.

[pallid hinge]

I love this little zombie so much

[cunning turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160784514633715744/1312620361237528667/attachment.gif

[cunning turtle]

I'm in love with it

[vague trench]

Shuffles the zombie

[pallid hinge]

Definitely calling him Shuffles from now on 😍

[lament crow]

do u guys know how to do the debug?

i just hit f2 and panicked cuz a bunch of info flashed

[winter burrow]

There should be a new icon on the left side that looks like a lil bug. If you click it, it will open a menu with options

[pallid hinge]

left hand side should be a circle with a bug in it click that and then find item list

type in item you are wanting to spawn in, in this case something like water bottle and hit the add 1 2 5 or multiple button

you can also teleport yourself if you want

just open your map, right click on the place you want to go and click teleport here

[lament crow]

oh no its all good, actually what i did was change the liquid in the bottle by right clickcing on it

[pallid hinge]

ah well there you go 🙂

[lament crow]

oh can i toggle that off at all? i dont want to accidentally tp myself

[pallid hinge]

I disable -debug unless I am actively using it, but it does require a restart of the game every time

[stray badger]

Hell yeah

[lament crow]

right, well i cant be bothered to close the game every time i need some water, i toggled everything off in cheats, but things will still allow me to cheat?

[pallid hinge]

unless you actively select something you should be cheating yea

[sturdy wren]

has there for black screen yet? i think my game updated

[sturdy wren]

so, no

[vague trench]

Nope lol i only use it during unstable if stuck to teleport otherwise its too scary for me

[sturdy wren]

oh well, surely next hotfix :BaroDev:

[pallid hinge]

@subtle tendon In the new patch notes - have you tried yet?

[lament crow]

hmmm i think i may of eaten a bad bery

how do i like not get poisoned again? or what do i do when i eat a poison berry

[pallid hinge]

WHAT THE HECK? Meat Cleaver counts as an axe?

[lethal wolf]

it used to be long blade, right?

no, short one

[pallid hinge]

lemongrass counteracts poison

[pallid hinge]

yea short blade

[lament crow]

i have a bunch of meds in my car, will anything there do it?

[lethal wolf]

also good morning and nice to see a bugfix so soon, now I'm getting more tempted to start a save big time

[pallid hinge]

Donno in B42, likely not but lemon grass is from foraging

[lethal wolf]

meds won't help you with poisonous berries, lemongrass or prayer, maybe a food buff -could- help healing the damage but no guarantee

[cunning turtle]

Just having faith

[lament crow]

so i can beat posion berries naturally, i just gotta keep fed and healthy?

[lethal wolf]

Sadly if the game is "rigged" to kill you via poison, it will. I don't think you can bruteforce healing to overcome the damage in case of a guaranteed kill factor.

[pallid hinge]

So the berries (and mushrooms) have a random poison value, some will poison you a bit and some will poison you a ton so you might not be able to survive just by staying well fed

[lethal wolf]

I'd say fight for your life and defy the reaper, after all that character will be lost if you die. Not like you got any other hope left!

Keep very well fed, as much as you can, don't get damaged via any other factor, and pray

And most definitely do not sleep since you can't keep yourself fed during sleep. Or that's how I would do it.

[pallid hinge]

I found a canteen, and you can attach it to your belt 😍

[vague trench]

Can lemongrass save you from bleach?

[lethal wolf]

But does it weigh less and auto-drink?

[wet timber]

no 💀

[vague trench]

Lol good

[wet timber]

auto-drink yes, not sure about weight

[lethal wolf]

Do I want to know why are you consuming bleach?

[vague trench]

No i was just curious lol was thinking of rat poison

[wet timber]

bro ate rat poison

[pallid hinge]

in B41 you couldn't survive it

[lethal wolf]

Just wondering about the benefits of a belt bottle, since if it weighs the same, drinks the same...visually looks nice?

and takes a belt slot

[wet timber]

visually looks great, it actually shows up on your player model.

[vague trench]

I have almosy misclick and drank bleach with how you empty things now lol

[pallid hinge]

yes it seems to weigh less than a normal bottle

normal water bottle is 1.1 it seems - but is 1000ML

[lethal wolf]

yeah, less water, which is surprising, I thought canteens are bigger

[pallid hinge]

maybe there is a bigger variant

[vague trench]

Where dis you find that one

[lethal wolf]

maybe today is the day I'll go for my Sir Gruggory the urban knight-woodsman then

[wet timber]

canteen display

[pallid hinge]

Military housing I believe

It's like the camps you see in doe valley

[vague trench]

Thats cool im noticing some things spawn in the theme of the location which is really nice, going to make me travel to areas more i nornally wouldnt.

Canteen sector here i come

Whers more plushies tho

[lament crow]

but isnt that what your doing when you eat lemongrass lol?

[pallid hinge]

Yea I need more plushies

[lament crow]

Right, well can i still die from posioning if the sick moodle is gone?

i assume thats how you tell if its a powerful posion or not

[subtle tendon]

not yet, Thank you for notifying me!!!

[pallid hinge]

in B41 no you wouldn't die if the sick moodle is gone, I imagine it is the same in B42

[pallid hinge]

No problem! Hope it works for you ❤️

[lament crow]

Also how do you get like the first level in maintence? are there any like basic practice actions you can do?

[lethal wolf]

Lemongrass probably has a negative poison value, unlike food buffs. So lemongrass reduces the poisoning level enough to not guarantee a kill.

[frozen wyvern]

Beat the living shit outta zombies

[lament crow]

what if no zomboles are around and i need an axe quickly? 😄

[frozen wyvern]

Make a zombie then beat them up obv

Jokes aside, not sure. I guess go on a trip for some combat

[lament crow]

well im kinda stuck in the middle of nowehre

[soft viper]

Does bashing garage doors with a crowbar no longer work to up your maintenance skill?

[lament crow]

(more specifically in the woods outside of muld like a fair way out) i was traveling north when i ran outta gas

[stoic spire]

are omelettes bugged rn?

[frozen wyvern]

No they're egged

[vague trench]

That made ne lol irl

[vague trench]

Does come up in crafting menu?

[stoic spire]

i make it and my frying pan/everything disappear/ :(

[lethal wolf]

I take it the saucepan duping and other stuff remains

[fallen inlet]

did people find the bunker already?

[keen gorge]

It's in March Ridge

Near the school

[fallen inlet]

thanks

[lament crow]

Yep, two things that need fixing asap is cooking and boiling water

cuz i tried making a hotdog the other day but the game wouldent let me

[latent zinc]

Do you still gain exp from tv and vhs?

[pallid hinge]

Also one in Brandenburg apparently

Found this while trying to find a dang genny mag

[keen gorge]

Damn I really need to read more flyers

[pallid hinge]

yea they seem worth checking out

[lament crow]

hey guys do you know how to check ur posion stats via debug menu?

[pallid hinge]

I think it is under Debug Menu->General Debuggers->Body->Food sickness level

[lament crow]

Thanks, also yikes

[pallid hinge]

was that just from the berries earlier?

[lament crow]

No no the berries... IDK if the berries added to this but i assumed it was fine cuz the sickness stat was gone

I was hungry and i picked up some mushrooms (yknow this is the easist way to test what mushrooms are posion in ur world) but i also assumed cooking them would remove the poison completley, turns out its not

[pallid hinge]

noooope

[lament crow]

ima spawn in some lemongrass usually id have to let things run its course but i need to test out new b42 features so thanks 🙂

[pallid hinge]

for sure!

Also just to note lemongrass has like a 1-2 hour cooldown period between uses

so don't just spam consume it if you are gonna use it or it will be wasted

[lament crow]

yeah well even eating the lemongrass doesnt seem to help my sickness stat is still up

[pallid hinge]

[lament crow]

im watching vitals, and it seems to be like sorta going up? my sickness stat is still like 36-

wait nvm its sorta going down just very slowly

Not sure if i should sleep now or not, or keep monitoring

[wet timber]

Is anyone already tried to survive in a bunker? Because I want to try but still unsure

[glacial cape]

Might not be unable to due to generators not working underground(if the bunker is underground)

[wet timber]

To many questions that I have no answers to. Starting from what bunker locations are present on the map, how generators would work and stuff like that

[wet timber]

That's really sad

[glacial cape]

Yeah I had rennovation plans for the basement at my base but if genies don't work underground with basements I'm not sure I can do them anymore

[wet timber]

Will I die from the smoke if I try to light a room with fire pits?

[glad pawn]

Short blade with the hand axe animations

[primal halo]

if no ventilation then yeah

[glad pawn]

Weight reduction I think

[wet timber]

Is ventilation a real thing in b42?

[primal halo]

[pallid hinge]

Not currently according to pat

Other than like generators being used indoors

[queen sedge]

have they worked in the optimizing? because i feel the game is smoother

[glacial cape]

Anyone here had any luck with their crops? Mine seem to die out way too often like before they can even get started into the next stage they just die in the seedling stage and I can't tell what its from probably disease but I can't tell due to limited information(unless crops out of season just straight up die now)

[wet timber]

Well if i can't live in a bunker like a civilized person due to generators problem, I can still live there like a savage. Horizon games type shi

Turning off smoke feature and living like a savage king

[glacial cape]

You could grind electrical enough to use batteries in lamps, and I guess you can use the entrance of the bunker as a kitchen/living space for tv shows, books etc

or make a building next to it, although there should also be a setting for disabling generator poison indoors so idk if placing a generator on the same level as the lower level of the bunker may work

[wet timber]

Some mods like 10 years later would add so much juice to it

[visual trail]

I'm going to check this out today

[wet timber]

Oh, id try it

[heady field]

I just saw a mod that fix the resolution setting, u might want to check it

[pallid hinge]

yea optimizations are in, and it should only get better as the build matures

[pallid hinge]

🎉 heck yea

[visual trail]

also a hotkey for the build UI would be nice

[severe prawn]

Im in love
#patchnotes message they EVEN REDUCED MUSCLE STRAIN

[pallid hinge]

ohhhh that is why it felt a bit better earlier when I was smashing zeds

I missed that part of the patchnotes apparently

[visual trail]

yep it's not decent at low factors, 0.5 was optimal before the hotfix

[fierce mountain]

Is boiling water on campfires fixed?

[visual trail]

I missed the Chicken apocalypse which is sad

[velvet egret]

I believe only pots with water boil rn. Not sure about saucepans

[flat phoenix]

Damn so does 0.5 now feel too low?

[glacial cape]

Jesus

I guess that's level 4 butchering for you lol & animal care

[cunning turtle]

Jesus

[glacial cape]

stuff the crops if animals are that meaty for me I'm going on a carnivore diet :D

vegetarian diet ended in build 41, carnivore diet started in build 42

[versed dagger]

Hi uh, so I found a bug. Edit: Muldraugh PD!

[signal nymph]

its a escape route

[versed dagger]

[mental laurel]

Can't plant new animals though!

[wet timber]

And then there's a medical system rework adding scurvy

[keen gorge]

Why does meat cleaver give axe XP

[tender cave]

why not

[fierce mountain]

Its a short axe technically. Just not normally used for chopping

Or well chopping of another type

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[glacial cape]

Oh no

[glacial cape]

True! But my crops keep dying before even getting out of the seedling stage even when planted in season :D

[cunning turtle]

[velvet egret]

the shape of the blade resembles a hatchet

[keen gorge]

It's a knife unless you're telling me you're butchering trees with that

[ornate parcel]

You say that but we have the power of god (debug menu)

[prisma salmon]

oh

not sure if this is on anyone's radar, but muldraugh's got a wacky spawn locale (started as nurse)

[sturdy wren]

it dont work

wait fuck

sorry i didnt mean to reply :(

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[velvet egret]

I read that some players use the meat cleaver to chop down trees and that it has the same, if not very similar, stats to the hand axe. I’m skeptical tho. Also, we can’t really stab with a butcher knife (it’s more of a swing)

[pallid hinge]

I leveled an axe level with a meat cleaver

I thought it was still short blade till it say +axe above my head

[prisma salmon]

i did the same thing 😭

i was trying to level short blade and got baited

[pallid hinge]

Fairrr

[visual trail]

0,5 was decent before the hotfix

1.0 was unbalanced and max was impossible

[pallid hinge]

I am lumber jack so it kinda works in my favour but I wasn't expecting it

[velvet egret]

nice to have an axe really early on if one can find a meat cleaver in their spawn home

[visual trail]

I played with max setting and after 2-3 zombies you're out

[prisma salmon]

i do hope they switch it back to short blade. hatchets feel pretty common and its nice for short blade mains to have a more reliable weapon beyond hunting knives

[pallid hinge]

I have only found two hatchets so far

[visual trail]

hatchets are op when used for woodcutting

[prisma salmon]

fr?

[pallid hinge]

One fire axe

For real

[prisma salmon]

i find them embedded in zoms plenty

god truly gives his silliest battles to his funniest clowns

[visual trail]

weapon chance is set high ? the lodged ones

[velvet egret]

I’ve only found one hatchet so far lol it’s a really good melee weapon from what I’ve seen

[pallid hinge]

Haven't found any in zombies yet

[prisma salmon]

only setting ive changed in the base apoc setup is saliva only infection

[scenic gazelle]

Correct me if I am wrong
I can attach a tool head, say hatchet head to small handle, with wood glue?

[visual trail]

they have been buffed I also noticed that now

[prisma salmon]

hatchets are great. axe users eating great this build

[visual trail]

but the wood chopping part is OP no loss of durability what so ever

[prisma salmon]

my spear main ass still spending way too much time trying to find a long stick 😭

[scenic gazelle]

What about sharpness?

[visual trail]

chop a tree and trim a sapling

[prisma salmon]

saplings drop from trees? huge

[scenic gazelle]

You can use brooms and mops aswell

[visual trail]

also carve it out of mops, rakes

[prisma salmon]

holy shit

we're back

[visual trail]

;)) peak Zomboid

[scenic gazelle]

What about sharpness?

[visual trail]

didn't notice any change

and it didn't get dull after all that

but I can't move on from the huge rest / exercise bug combo @pallid hinge you aware of this ?

[velvet egret]

EZ way to reach max regularity

[visual trail]

I saw you posted that bug

but it also grants huge XP in fitness and strength as well

[velvet egret]

and the muscle strain goes away the next day

[visual trail]

and you don't pass out

[flat phoenix]

Damn I’ll need to change the sandbox again. 0.5 felt pretty decent before hotfix. Not sure what will be a good setting now

[glacial cape]

Anyone know if carving skill books exist

[fierce mountain]

Is there a way to make candles?

[static heart]

Do animals respawn ?

[visual trail]

basically they made the default go down 60%

all skill books exist

[velvet egret]

they do. If you're lucky, you'll find the whole set

[visual trail]

apart from weapons and passives

[prisma salmon]

i do wish there was a maintenance book

[glacial cape]

Sweet time to grind to level 3 carving to make a long handle for a sledge

[visual trail]

every crafting skill book is out there waiting for ya

[glacial cape]

cause my dumb ahh ain't finding one

[prisma salmon]

wait is there

am i stupid?

[visual trail]

nope

no maintenance skillbook

[prisma salmon]

😭

[visual trail]

you can add it by mods

[hybrid frost]

I'm not a fan of loot being tied to zombie count. It's just resulted in the entirety of west point being devoid of loot for me. Also it just doesn't fit the realism of random distribution of stuff I think you would find.

I haven't been able to find books either because of it I think

[velvet egret]

I heard Riverside is the new West Point lol

[visual trail]

nope, spawned in it

not so interesting tbh

[velvet egret]

ah. Unfortunate

[visual trail]

but the farms close to it are very interesting 😛

[velvet egret]

which spawn town has the greatest zombie count rn?

[fierce mountain]

Mauldrugh I think

[velvet egret]

makes sense. I think Echo Creek has the lowest

[visual trail]

Echo Creek is beginner friendly

[ornate parcel]

Did the hotfix do anything to existing saves?

[visual trail]

nope, works fine

[fierce mountain]

Safe to carry on it fixes stuff and improves muscle fatigue.

[hollow mica]

what's the difference between the Welding and Metalworking skills?

[prisma salmon]

this is a thing?

[neat saffron]

does anyone know how to get the recipe for This or preferably, how i can just spawn it in instead

[hybrid frost]

It's the default selected in the sandbox menu, and apocalypse as well

[neat saffron]

its still my biggest aggravating gripe i cannot do something as simple as banging some old tin cans to a stick.

[velvet egret]

it's probably a recipe magazine that can be found in a survivor home

[prisma salmon]

that seems a tad backwards lol

[hybrid frost]

It is, I'm not sober. I'm not fixing it

[lethal wolf]

Does this setting dictate if you can leave a car with siren on even if you leave the area? At least in b41 sirens would shut off the moment you went off-screen

[velvet egret]

I believe so. That also applies to house alarms iirc

[lethal wolf]

But house alarms should be going off at some point, but sometimes I have had plans to leave a siren on for long, long periods of time to ensure it keeps attracting zeds.

And car siren simply stops the moment you go off-screen, making such plans obsolete

[velvet egret]

then yeah, that setting should keep sirens on for .. hours after going off-screen. Also, be aware that zeds destroy sirens so might wanna surround the vehicle siren with other cars @lethal wolf

Build 41.32: "zombies will now thump a car with siren/alarm on, siren will eventually get destroyed by thumping zombies"

[glad pawn]

Bro paid zero attention to any of the thursdoids

[woven beacon]

Pls devs 🙏

Where my short blunt at?

[torpid sonnet]

Can't seem to boil water in glass bottles, at least the ones I've found so far.

[severe prawn]

DID THEY ADDED FIREARMS BOOKS?

NO WAY

[glacial cape]

lol welcome to build 42

[chrome storm]

lmaoooo

[glacial cape]

so I figured out you can use a pickaxe to mine flint, limestone & stone outcroppings off the ground I haven't found any iron to mine yet so its either not implemented or I've not spotted it yet

[keen gorge]

Not yet implemented

[wraith rune]

Don't think you can boil anything currently, it's a bug

[torpid sonnet]

oof

[cunning turtle]

We're cooked

[glacial cape]

Makes sense its only the initial crafting stage, I'm assuming the same is for clay?

also anyone figured out how to get railroad spikes yet

[keen gorge]

Clay right now can only be foraged though there are mods in the workshop that allows you to just dig it out

[glacial cape]

Oh nice! I was about worried for blacksmithing there

[torpid sonnet]

one of my favorite parts about this update is being able to maintain weapons more realistically.

axes are even better now

[glacial cape]

I'm thinking the axes will probably be tweaked a little they're way too durable now especially stone axes

I've chopped 20-30 trees and my stone axe hasn't taken a single hit of durability

but yeah the maintaining of weapons is awesome

[torpid sonnet]

lol that's 99.99% a bug

go hit a zombie itll brake in like 3 hits

but yeah I've been chopping down trees nonstop with no durability loss

[silk nova]

hey guys has anyone noticed if the tools lose conditions when using for building/crafting?

[velvet egret]

I think many tools do now

[keen gorge]

Weapons with a sharpness value are too good right now

[glacial cape]

Saws don't lose any condition for some reason

[raw parcel]

hello, hotfix didnt address the caffeine overdose

[keen gorge]

As long as you keep its sharpness up, you can down any zombie in 5 hits without any weapon skills

[raw parcel]

in which those three files have fatigueChange values 100x too high

[glacial cape]

lets go! my pop is still op

[silk nova]

i mean like hammers, are they lose conditions when used for building walls or barricade?

[raw parcel]

your pop is so op you could dilute it in a bottle of water and itd still prevent sleep for days

fatigue in game systems goes from 0 to 1 with 0.001 increments

[glacial cape]

Mine didn't seem to work when I tried that with autodrink

[raw parcel]

all items that have a fatigueChange value in the game have it at least to 1

so all items reduce all fatigue from ridiculously tired to fine

[raw parcel]

strange, it worked that way before the hotfix

very strange behavior

[glacial cape]

This was before the hotfix I put 500ml worth of coke into my water bottle didn't seem to reduce fatigue

[raw parcel]

500mL should have a fatigueChange value of 2.5, removing literally all fatigue

as 1000mL has a fatigueChange value of 5

is it explained anywhere how fluid mixing works? i sort of expected it to just divide everything proportionally

[raw parcel]

how much water was already in the container?

maybe autodrink works in weird ways too

the feature predates the fluid system so it could be coded in a way that your char only "autodrinks" the water in the container

selectively sipping only the water molecules and not the caffeine molecules

[glacial cape]

1500ml of water and 500ml of coke

[raw parcel]

so any sip should give your char 1/4th of the potency

which still comes to >1 fatigue reduction

for the full bottle that is

[glacial cape]

I wonder if its some weird thing to do with autodrink

[raw parcel]

a tiny sip would not give any big effect

[glacial cape]

maybe manual drink would work better? at the least carrying a can/bottle of coke works just as well

[raw parcel]

manual drink 100% worked before the hotfix its what i tested

autodrink either forgets to drink the soda molecule, only sipping the water molecules

or it just "sips" so little, the consequences on your stats are meaningless

[glacial cape]

think I'm just gonna carry a can/bottle of coke

[raw parcel]

1mL of soda, even with current bugged values, only gives 0.005 fatigue reduction

such a change IS within the game's parameters, but its so little

it only represents a few ticks of fatigue progression

kind of like the old vitamins where you had to chug entire bottles of the stuff

[raw parcel]

ill test this in the afternoon with autosip

[glacial cape]

👍

[raw parcel]

with "correct" values (5% reduction) though, a sip of 1mL water, 1mL soda would only give 0.00005 fatigue reduction

which i think is too small of a number for the game so it'd just be 0

it's consistent with how things work irl, if you put a cup of coffee in 10L of water, the caffeine is much too diluted for it to have detectable effects in the body

at least youd suffer of water poisoning by the time you manage to ingest enough caffeine

trust me im a MD

[steep palm]

I guess starting with nothing and live in the wild is out of the question right now since you need level 1 maintenance to craft a simple stone axe

[subtle tendon]

anyone else having problems with the grid showing ingame?

[ruby sail]

@formal mango

Are Discord Integrations intended to be fixed throughout B42 ?

Right now the Integration makes the discord bot send too many packets and discord ends up disabling the bot

[silk nova]

also u have the moltiplication of bowls after u made a bowl of anything?

[native spear]

what is a chickenpocalypse?

[silk plume]

😞 I'm so cooked

[native spear]

I think that the muscle strain fix was fair it seemed really persistent

[subtle tendon]

do you guys freeze for no reason or nah

[blazing galleon]

is it possible to climb ladders in b42?

[queen shadow]

No

[blazing galleon]

that sucks

[queen shadow]

Or at least I havent seen a climbable ladder yet

[past spear]

imagine climbing down a manhole cover...

[ornate parcel]

Chat would I be stupid for saying axes shouldn’t lose damage from being less sharp?

It just effectively transfers the axe into a sledgehammer, if it goes blunt/dull

[remote bear]

I just realized, Shotguns may not be nerfed? Multi-hit for firearms is dependent on crosshair offset values

[raw parcel]

autodrink drinks all fluids equally but does not apply change values

in mixed drinks with water

[remote bear]

Could be wrong but I was finishing my guide on gunplay and got to that realization that might be it.

[vapid elbow]

Hello, Has anyone ever come across this thing ? It's seem, it kills other z

[remote bear]

scary

[gleaming perch]

Did you guys know that thr KPATV tv station becomes a survivor Tv channel after the first week

[slate sentinel]

I don’t think I’ll be the first to say this but muscle strain should be affected by fitness/strength and/or panic moodle

[static heart]

guys how to build barricade, doesn't work like B41 ?

[velvet egret]

it is affected by strength atm

[hollow mica]

how can I use the new water purification tablets? I can't use them with bottles of dirty water

[lament crow]

So ive made a drill plank guys, what item do i neeed to use it with? i forgor in 41 it was a long stick or something?

[gleaming perch]

Lol

[daring rain]

Indoor plants do not rot after not being water??