Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[remote bear]

I'm probably thinking of Bloodlust or something.

[glacial cape]

also gas masks finally prevent corpse sickness thank god

Guess it just means if you're planning on fighting large groups better armor up :)

I abandoned protection back in b41 for style anyways cause if you're grabbed good chance you're dead anyways and its too heavy

[remote bear]

I honestly appreciate the devs for it. Too many gamers these days like to be hand-held these days.

[glacial cape]

Drip > Protection

[wooden ravine]

from point blank to about 20 or maybe 30 feet

[remote bear]

Fr lmao, I played b41 for drip, now I play b42 for protection cause I'm scared of zombies now.

[glacial cape]

Yeah, they have overtuned a bit of the new mechanics though but that's what a unstable is for so we can report and these issues we have

[remote bear]

I believe they wont remove Muscle Strain, just nerf it a bit and let it become a optional thing to turn off.

[glacial cape]

yeah I think the default muscle strain setting will be set to 0.5 or something in apoc, even lower in other settings or straight up disabled and that it will be linked to strength as well as weapon skill

[hoary rampart]

Man my game keeps crashing on character creation, i havent even been able to see the ACTUAL GAME

[glacial cape]

What're you on mac or windows?

[hallow sail]

i don't think the strain is actually too bad

[hoary rampart]

Windows

[glacial cape]

Weird are you using amd?

[remote bear]

Nah it really isn't tbf

[glacial cape]

I agree its a great mechanic and concept its just too punishing atm

[hoary rampart]

I dont believe so, thats like a graphics thing right?

[remote bear]

Verify your local files or do fresh installs, maybe delete Zomboid too in the user folder.

[glacial cape]

Just wondering cause I heard that steam deck, mac & amd gpu users have been having issues

[hoary rampart]

I have spent the last TWO DAYS installing this game. I am NOT uninstalling this.

[hallow sail]

i think they just gotta add back the old rates of finding books. i shouldn't be entering a library and finding 2 actually useful books. weapon type adjacent books reduce muscle strain anyways.

[glacial cape]

I ntocied that too, I'm playing on extremely rare loot settings as well

[forest shore]

Verifying files should do the trick @hoary rampart

[remote bear]

installing the update or the game from fresh?

[hoary rampart]

... i AM using AMD. :[

I just found it :/

[remote bear]

[glacial cape]

Damn that sucks

[hoary rampart]

Is there no fixing it?

[glacial cape]

Not that I'm aware of no, it seems like a issue for the devs to sort out

[hoary rampart]

MAN

[remote bear]

Not aware of anything else too

[hoary rampart]

Whyd i even bother installing this, just stopped me from using my pc for 2 straight days

[hallow sail]

i was playing on basic like survivor settings i think and found absolutely NOTHING. i ended up adding a sandbox setting mod and practically doubling a bunch of values for loot rates and i've still found practically nothing!

[past spear]

dial up?

[hoary rampart]

No.

We have fiber

[glacial cape]

Yeah starting to regret changing the loot settings now since its seems the devs have been doing a bit of loot tweaking

[hoary rampart]

It shouldnt have taken so long to install, idfk why it did

[forest shore]

Why'd it take so long to install?

[remote bear]

Must be some genuinely bad fiber internet wtf.

[glacial cape]

I think its to encourage crafting/building

[forest shore]

Did the download take that long or the install itself? If the install itself did then my guess is some corrupted files.

[hallow sail]

this aint encouraging anything. im on day 25 with no power, no food, no anything. i don't think i can forage and craft out of this mess

[remote bear]

Actually for some people B42 did take pretty long to download

[past spear]

the servers were seemingly kinda slow right when it came out

[remote bear]

Yeah I have found less canned food in this update.

[hoary rampart]

I didnt have it installed at all. When it finished, i clicked on the b42 beta and it took the same amount of time as the install did

[hallow sail]

i have found less of every kind of food. like i feel like a vulture scrounging for literally ANYTHING

[remote bear]

Bushman nomad playthrough is the only real one playstyle now.

[hallow sail]

yeah. seems like the game's playstyle has done a 180. i won't dog on it though because it IS an unstable

[glacial cape]

you don't get foraging xp from discarding stuff anymore :/

[remote bear]

People dogging on Unstable are unfair tbh

[frozen wyvern]

I think that the gameplay differences are a great meta shake up

[lethal wolf]

People wanted B42, no matter how broken, no matter the cost. They paid the cost, now unhappy.

[glacial cape]

Seem to forget the game is early access, the devs are indie and its unstable ver of b42

[remote bear]

42 is arguably not even that broken lol

[past spear]

im happy with it but i also won't be doing any super long term playthroughs for the time being

[turbid gorge]

im def interested to see what people do with the new modding abilities

also really want to see the old mods come back as much as possible

[remote bear]

But yeah, there is a line between constructive feedback and incoherent angry complaining

[eternal stump]

Those who know

[glacial cape]

It is unfortunately the case that all of the positives are overshadowed by issues people jsut like picking at faults

[past spear]

a lot of mod authors will wait until the patching slows down

[turbid gorge]

please god tidy up mesiter

most essential quality of life thing needed

[glacial cape]

its a terrible human habit lol I'm guilty of it myself

[turbid gorge]

when game auto-pulls something out of an inventory it auto puts it back

[remote bear]

It is already updated

Damn, I woke up at 3:40. I should have gone to sleep.

[glacial cape]

I woke up at 2 been up since then its 6:08 💀

[remote bear]

I'm kinda also just trying to get my ADHD in check anyway. It's gotten worse and I have issues sleeping at night without anything acting as noise.

[river sonnet]

what is the difference between Build 42 Unstable and Build 42?

why didn't the devs just release the update as "Build 42"?

[hallow sail]

fuck man, you actually need flashlights now

[remote bear]

Build 42 is a stable final version, unstable build 42 was released for greater testing and feedback basically.

[vague trench]

Lol yah, cats eye halps too

[river sonnet]

so unstable build 42 is probably buggier than build 42?

[remote bear]

Does Cat eye only help at night or in general darkness?

[frozen wyvern]

Yeah, it's a beta.

People kept hyping themselves up thinking this would be a full release when that was never the case lol

It's pretty damn full of content tho

[river sonnet]

the lighting rework looks nice

[vague trench]

I only noticed in outside but i havent been paying attention to inside since i have a flash lights

[frozen wyvern]

I honestly decided to stop using cats eyes since I like the gameplay of pitch darkness

[hallow sail]

You are insane

[frozen wyvern]

And proud of it

[vague trench]

Yar compared to build whatever in 2014 this build is fantastic , so much stuff

Lol i love the dark

[hallow sail]

I went to this huge outskirts warehouse with hundreds of crates. I hear a zombie in a dark room, open the door…. The fucking power flashes off in this massive ass building with a zombie SOMEWHERE in all of the darkness. I’m bringing a flashlight next time

[frozen wyvern]

That's fucking awesome

[vague trench]

Lmao, i had that happen and didnt know what to do just stood there

[frozen wyvern]

Oooo that mod that makes power flicker would be GREAT now

[vague trench]

And i swear everytime im doing sonething a meta event goes off and i have to run lol, been keeping me on my toes i love it

[hallow sail]

I was in riverside highschool and you literally can’t see 6 feet from the door

[lethal wolf]

I'll wait for some major bugfixes so the build is at least working mostly, without anything gamebreaking. Maybe some more features get added in etc...

[frozen wyvern]

I'd say it's working great rn

[glacial cape]

That's fair, some features do feel missing like there's a recipe to use a railroad spike in a improvised weapon but as far as I know there's no way to dismantle the tracks right now

[hallow sail]

Agreed for the most part

[glacial cape]

still performs better than most UE5 games out there, although that's probably an unfair comparison :P

[pallid hinge]

Look how far we have come https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg2zpd747FA

[frozen wyvern]

That's insane

[vague trench]

so awesome we get to be apart of it

[pallid hinge]

Right? I feel proud!

[vague trench]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-guys-gif-27090324

[lethal wolf]

it be working, but from what I've read alone, some recipes do not work at all, some cars, stuff missing textures, possible death holes to the void...I'm fine with waiting a lot longer for things like bows, but if the meat of the build would work awesome

[heady field]

and then they came back after few days just like zomboids lol

[remote bear]

I played these early versions before

Like when it first cams out (not on steam)... good times

[past spear]

is there a gameplay reason to turn off zombie migration? i feel like it would genuinely break the game

[frozen wyvern]

I mean if you want to have areas permanently cleared

[vague trench]

Hobeslt since theyre working on zombie stuff i wouldnt if you want to see if it changes at all

[pallid hinge]

I never played the one shown in the video, but I bought the game during the pre-alpha tech demo and have been playing ever since 🙂

[remote bear]

We are... the same?

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/best-friends-step-brother-will-ferrell-gif-4030364

[remote bear]

https://tenor.com/view/same-gif-8650053

[lethal wolf]

good example, from the time when I got told to pretend railroad tracks are the ore deposits...but we can't get the train tracks now!! 😄

[remote bear]

Fooorr reaal haha

[heady field]

has anyone looted echo creek map yet

[past spear]

once that's something you can do that'll be infinite iron for smithing

[lethal wolf]

aye, its a fair compromise

[pallid hinge]

[remote bear]

I actually remember leaked RCs were so popular at the time

[past spear]

zomboid will finally let me live out the dream of being a copper wire stealing crackhead

[vague trench]

Lol i played the old one for first time and holy carp im glad they removed the npcs rofl

[remote bear]

NPCs were really primitive back then

[glacial cape]

I also remember seeing a mention of some form of tech tree? Although I guess recipes just unlock as you level which is honestly better

tech trees would be too limiting in our options on what to choose

although I guess that's what multiplayer is for cause I remember seeing plans of having specializations being a thing in the sandbox

[lethal wolf]

one day I'll build an elven (meth addict delusions) magical forest kingdom...in the Louisville park, living and imagining its a forest

[past spear]

imagine that in a large multiplayer server

[lethal wolf]

in loincloth, using bows to repel any forest invaders

petting either imaginary animals or actually doing work to lure them there

[past spear]

imagine a mod that adds underground sewers to louisville

[remote bear]

Been watching a streamer collecting gnomes and talking to himself a lot.

[lethal wolf]

adds? you mean there aren't any, in b42, the chosen build of the underground?

[past spear]

no clue

[remote bear]

I think he is going insane.

[past spear]

but i feel like if there were an extensive underground sewer network in b42 someone would have mentioned it

[lethal wolf]

I think when I play b42, with my forest dweller homie, I hope there's any forest dwelling with a cellar in it, so I can combine both cellar and forest gameplay

[glacial cape]

a cellar to preserve food, kind of like a primitive fridge would be awesome

[lethal wolf]

I know that ONE place with some fence around it, like a satellite dish

was it near....West point?

[past spear]

if/when horses become a thing, imagine riding a horse through louisville...

[lethal wolf]

if that building can generate a cellar, I'll be happy

[pallid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-grimes-horse-gif-25028276

[pallid hinge]

the dreammm

[past spear]

this game is arguably more twd than the later seasons of twd are

[pallid hinge]

true

[glacial cape]

we should be able to make a cellar, maybe not as a thing inworld but as a placeable

having the option to freeze/preserve food without a refrigerator would be huge

[past spear]

high zombie pop, shamblers, everybody's infected, and you basically got twd zombies

[lethal wolf]

Friend found some items called "unlabeled food metal cans" or something, a way to make things like butchered meat etc last longer?? the cans could be sealed, I think

[remote bear]

gib... horse....

[lethal wolf]

quoted wrong message but pretend you know

[remote bear]

need horse.... dog and cat

[pallid hinge]

I found cat treats yesterday

[remote bear]

Please god.... let there be cats

[frozen wyvern]

What I really want more than anything is to replace the grass ground texture; the new foliage looks amazing but the ground still looks like TV static

[past spear]

imagine eating one and getting botulism

[glacial cape]

I found a dog leash

[frozen wyvern]

I'm trying to mess around with the game directory to find the texture but I can't seem to find it

[pallid hinge]

I sure hope so, so I can live out my crazy cat person life in the apocalypse

[pallid hinge]

Yeee dog leash was in B41 too!

[lethal wolf]

imagine remembering people DID preserve food before fridge was invented!

[past spear]

i wasn't suggesting it's not viable, but it would be funny if canning with a low cooking skill could kill you

[glacial cape]

I've started to collect a room of rats

[pallid hinge]

[glacial cape]

and the rats, they make me go crazy

[pallid hinge]

Did you see what arrdef wrote earlier?

about soda

[glacial cape]

yea

[pallid hinge]

pretty wild lol

[lethal wolf]

do we need more slow agonizing deaths that are based on RNG? xD

[glacial cape]

that explains why I was never tired and you were lol

[pallid hinge]

yup yup!

[past spear]

yes.

[glacial cape]

idk if he ever said if mixing it with a water bottle and using autodrink works

[lethal wolf]

fair, would be funny if the tooltip had no indication of it being deadly

[past spear]

it does

[vague trench]

Ratocalypse!!!

[heady field]

mount whenn

[pallid hinge]

I would say somewhere in the B43+ range

[inner delta]

Praise The Only Cure!

[past spear]

the legendary soda meta

[glacial cape]

wait, I can make pilk :D

[heady field]

they got update?

[inner delta]

I wish

[heady field]

[vague trench]

Someones deer on steamforums that was hung on a butchers hook. Skinned came back to life and walked away lol

[glacial cape]

ahhaha that's amazing

[heady field]

oh deer

[vague trench]

Ahaha

[inner delta]

Lmao

[heady field]

maybe it got infected

[frozen wyvern]

Zombie deer

[past spear]

bad day

[vague trench]

Lol

[glacial cape]

How bro looks after saying the cartel isn't a big deal

[vague trench]

Bruh ahahha

[keen gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-im-great-doin-fine-i-am-ok-not-im-invincible-gif-13072852

[pallid hinge]

It's the little things...

[remote bear]

Louisville ain't little

insulting my boy louis.

[pallid hinge]

But not having to grab every LV map I see because it might uncover the little patch I don't already have!

that is pretty QoL

[frozen wyvern]

Can't say I've ever understood why Louisville is broken up into 9 small maps

[keen gorge]

Too dense

[frozen wyvern]

I suppose

[keen gorge]

If it's one big map and you don't already know what you want and where to go, high likelihood of you getting lost

[fallen sphinx]

hows everyone holding up so far

[remote bear]

pretty good

[lethal wolf]

Anyone know if we get patch notes every time they fix bugs? just curious since nothing has been seen fix-wise

[frozen wyvern]

I'm on character two and am robbing houses blind

[frozen wyvern]

Well it's almost Christmas time so I doubt much of anything will change until the new year

[keen gorge]

Nothing has been changed. There's been nothing since the 18th

[lethal wolf]

Yeah I thought maybe we got the unstable earlier than 23rd because we'd get at least one bugfix wave before holidays

[keen gorge]

Mostly I just want the crude tech tree to be fixed before next year. It's annoying to try to loot for whetstones

[pallid hinge]

We still might, they continue to update si branch

[heavy crown]

This is sufficient screenshot for a bug report yeah? Gotta go sign up for the forums

[lethal wolf]

I'm just...hoping the worst offender of bugs gets squashed so I can enjoy PZ without wife being home to tell me to brush my teeth, eat, drink, sleep

ie the holidays

[pallid hinge]

I haven't run into anything game breaking in my run so far

[frozen wyvern]

I'll be honest man haven't come across any big bugs lol

[lethal wolf]

Lets hope so, I'm being awfully dramatic about that ONE TRUE VEHICLE with 840 inventory, if its broken, untextured, how will my poor soul handle that

but the answer probably is, with SHIT GIGA TON OF LOOT to wipe my tears with...

[frozen wyvern]

Most noticeable one atm is that zombies are kinda jank when falling over

[vague trench]

Think that restricted place is the only thing so far that i had to login to debug to teleport out of it because i was just falling lol

[pallid hinge]

yea the flipflopping is really bad in this build, had it happen more than I ever did in B41

[frozen wyvern]

And also the fishing tackle bag has no texture, may God save us all

[lethal wolf]

muh perfectionism

[vague trench]

I wanna go fish!

Fishing tourney !!

[frozen wyvern]

It remind me a bit of that scene from SpongeBob

It's a deep cut and I am too tired to elaborate

[pallid hinge]

I don't know it, or if I do it isn't coming to mind

[heavy crown]

I think it's just way more noticeable with trying to juggle exertion+strain at the same time, you just end up with more frustration when you knock a guy over and deliberately go up to the head to stomp and it swivels around.

[pallid hinge]

petting animals should lower stress/boredom/unhappiness

[frozen wyvern]

It does!

My character got bitten and was on his way out so I had him pet some cows to make him feel a bit better

[heavy crown]

Am I missing something here or is this crafting not working at all? I have the light, the surface, and so it should just.... do the thing, shouldn't it?

[pallid hinge]

does it? I still have the "A little uncomfortable" moodle, cause I downed an entire thing on mayo for calories

[frozen wyvern]

I don't think it would affect comfort

[lethal wolf]

did you try both water filled and empty saucepan

[frozen wyvern]

There's something weird with the saucepan in particular

Someone had the same issue earlier lol

[lethal wolf]

yeah the saucepan bug clearly is gamebreaking

[heavy crown]

saucepan is filled, going to empty it and try again

[vague trench]

Yeah it wouldnt make water clean when boiled for me but cooking pot would lol was weird

[lethal wolf]

mac n cheese or similar have been real OGs long ago for food

it is a crime its bugged

[heavy crown]

OK I need to EMPTY the saucepan and pour water from my water bottle into it...

I now have two saucepans?

[lethal wolf]

you have discovered the bread and butter of duping in online games

[vague trench]

Lol

Breeding sauce pans

[severe egret]

Huzzah. Now you have two items that dont work

[lethal wolf]

But you could have 3! Or 4!

[ember totem]

where in brandenburger? I've been looking everywhere there, still no luck

[glacial cape]

Peak American literature

[dusty wasp]

I found one a street over at my spawn in my current run. Does anyone know what recipe I'd need for a chisel?

[subtle tendon]

Waiting for when modders make dinosaur animals

[remote bear]

nah, bro holy shit they did not just update bandits to b42

[thick laurel]

Stove sprite when they’re turned on only appears when I click on them

[pallid hinge]

!bugreport

[sacred bison]

Your report on Discord might end up being lost to the void. Please report bugs on our forums or Steam:

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/85-bug-reports/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/6/

[thick laurel]

No, I need someone to make bug spray mod

[pallid hinge]

besure to add your computer specs and stuff

[thick laurel]

K

[pallid hinge]

I keep finding car keys but never find the car that it is associated with lol. Like in houses and stuff - no car in the driveway sort of thing

Also I found a firefighter with an SCBA respirator, and now I just found an oxygen tank - I wonder if there is going to be a reason to use these in vanilla

Only thing I can think of is corpse sickness getting really bad

[remote bear]

Crazy, if Working Masks mod has not been implemented yet into the game.

[pallid hinge]

Yea I haven't tested really - I was messing around with the medical mask and it didn't seem to do much, bad smell moodle popped up nearly instantly any time I would kill a zombie. I also saw in the crafting menu you can make filters for masks - so there must be a reason for that

[cunning turtle]

Xdn't

[vague trench]

Did you ever go to the boat in build 41 by riverside ?

[timid fable]

Does this mean i cant use my B41 world save to play B42 in the future ?

[severe egret]

Yes, coming out of unstable doesnt mean they become compatible

[fallen sphinx]

does anyone know any vehicle creators need one

[timid fable]

aw man, i spent two months in that world trying to collect all items in game

[lethal wolf]

the nature of early access games, am afraid

[severe egret]

I suppose some kind of conversion process wouldnt necessarily be impossible. Seems unlikely though

[pallid hinge]

well now you can spend two months trying to collect all the new items

[timid fable]

lol

[flat phoenix]

B41 worlds won’t ever be compatible, the devs said b42 changes too much of the build.

[pallid hinge]

There are SO MANY new items

it is actually insane

[timid fable]

I expected this would happen but all the effort... what a pity

[lethal wolf]

but the good news is, build 43 isn't coming out for years! Although different patches, if big enough changes, can make older B42 saves broken...

[pallid hinge]

You can always keep playing your B41 save until you decide to end it

[pallid hinge]

true, this happened a few times during B41's unstable branch development

[heady field]

starting over is part of pz experience

[timid fable]

welp, i guess imma start over

[timid fable]

wth

[crisp fulcrum]

What is that

[lethal wolf]

it definitely made me from scared-wuss-whom-wife-mocked-to-PZ-devs-on-twitter into Doom Slayer

[heady field]

u get many new stuffs on 42

[pine trellis]

What’s the issue of starting a new world lol

[remote bear]

Are you playing with mods??

[crisp fulcrum]

No

[remote bear]

You are

[pallid hinge]

[heady field]

gonna wait for the error magnifier guy before doing troubleshoot xD

[remote bear]

Item Condition is not a vanilla feature

What are you running?

[crisp fulcrum]

I download a new version for b42

[heady field]

yea that mod cause some issue with canteen

[crisp fulcrum]

I forget about them

[remote bear]

Don't jumble mods together in this update, the build is still very fresh.

[heady field]

the hotbar just glitched when I attach the canteen to my belt

either condition marker or reorder hotbar mod caused it

[remote bear]

If you really must play with mods, always check the Bug Reports, comments or descriptions for any glaring issues the mod might have.

[heady field]

true

maybe I'll use texture mod only for now

[remote bear]

Yeah, texture mods are harmless.

[lethal wolf]

I wonder, B42 brought so many new things that used to be mods, I think, my modest quality of life modlist is gonna be near useless now

[remote bear]

And maybe some UI mods.

[heady field]

and maybe my fav vehicle mod xD

[remote bear]

On my steam profile, I have started to maintain a fairly good b42 qol mod collection

[lethal wolf]

I've used just this

still more than "few" but not hundreds, and mostly QoL

[remote bear]

I'm waiting for Common Sense updates.

AutoMechanics is now for B42

[visual trail]

yep very good mod

[pallid hinge]

Common sense was updated yesterday

[remote bear]

B42 has virtually removed all the mods I've basically played with for months now.

[visual trail]

it's updated

[lethal wolf]

I could pretty easily play without any mods if I really wanted

[remote bear]

Yeah, but there are still some issues regarding some features it has.

[subtle tendon]

Any news on Mac version yet?

[pallid hinge]

Nope.

[remote bear]

Nothing big tbh

[visual trail]

I am playing with it and it works just fine

[remote bear]

CS?

[subtle tendon]

With Mac?

[visual trail]

yes

common sense

[visual trail]

no

[subtle tendon]

Man

I wonder why mac doesn’t work

[remote bear]

Time will tell

[ember totem]

nope, never played much in reverside to be honest

[vague trench]

Ok hang on

[vague trench]

Its over there just follow the water

[ember totem]

inside the boat sledges have a chance to spawn? sounds like a death trap tho

[vague trench]

Not the boat the houses near the boat lol

[ocean reef]

its never roadkill its food, ive been loving this update

[heady field]

oh right the parked boat

[vague trench]

I dont know if its worth it if your far away lol

Id hobestly look around you first

[neat saffron]

... oh no.

[lethal wolf]

free dinner

[pallid hinge]

[ember totem]

oh ok, I'm right there, I'll look around the houses then. There's like 50 zeds in the boat entrance lol

[neat saffron]

when life gives you lemons...

[lethal wolf]

a lot of pics recently havent used the new moodles, did people mod them away or?

[neat saffron]

Yes.
I did not like them at all.

[lethal wolf]

The egg still baffles me

[vague trench]

Good luxk lol

[ocean reef]

free food!

[remote bear]

Yh, I'm using Muhrakks moodles however. They keep everything more in line to what TIS intended but also following the 41 moodles artstyle, except HD revamps them.

[lethal wolf]

How do you deal with entirely new moodles, like new types

[remote bear]

Depends which one you are talking about.

Uncomfortable is depending on your clothing comfort.

Wearing Armour increases discomfort, being wet, hungry and all that factors in too I believe.

[lethal wolf]

Well I meant icon wise, since you can't exactly have a b41 moodle back if it didnt exist back then

[pallid hinge]

It adds new ones that are in the style of Pre-42

[remote bear]

oh, well muhrakk did that

what ecn said

"Moodles Re-Animated features redrawn facial moodles that align with build 41's moodle style."
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387102991&searchtext=moodles

This or Molecule31 Moodles are the best.

[wild oak]

0/10 exhausted moodle isnt freaky enough

[remote bear]

Although MandoDB's moodles have increased in quality aswell.

[wild oak]

wdym

theyve changed?

[remote bear]

Yes, because he is using art commissioned by others to him lol

[neat saffron]

i use the pack that redraws them into the pixelated style

[wild oak]

same, i loved the pixel style of b41 and refuse to change

although i 100 percent support the exhausted moodle 11/10 best moodle ever made

[remote bear]

This one is good too https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386486141

[velvet egret]

besides corpse sickness, I imagine the masks and respirators will be for smoke from fires and generators, sewage and other foul odors from exploring or residing in the sewers, and/or mold after many years of unmaintained or abandoned homes

[heady field]

theres a moodle mod that has a progress bar on b41, im waiting for that one

[remote bear]

Plain moodles

[heady field]

has anyone tried the player stat mod? I cant enable the minimap with that mod active lol

[heady field]

yeah, its awesome

[neat saffron]

I crash into a huge horde-hop a chainlink fence trying to get away forgetting that i dont know this industrial zone- having to evade 300 more zombies, i run myself wracked to death with exhaustion and BARELY reach my car that JUST held on having to smash through the blocked way trunk forwards
I got cut severely, im at half health, i CRASH into a stop sign at 70 Miles an Hour-
I climb out... alive and unhurt.

I have successfully, once again, somehow, against all odds, uncooked myself.

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-man-who-can-never-die-senor-chang-community-immortal-gif-25437926

[pallid hinge]

🎉

[remote bear]

Anyone think Reluctant fighter is a viable trait to have?

[pallid hinge]

El Tigre Chino

[remote bear]

I mean like sure, you get decreased Combat XP gains...

Angler or Keen Cook folks

Gonna do a Bushman playthrough

[pallid hinge]

So I used to take it back in the day (pacifist trait) and it seemed fine but then I was convinced otherwise - Don't know if they have changed it at all but pretty interesting video by Ret https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w2kqYuc32M

[remote bear]

guh.... -25% reduction, wtf

[keen gorge]

Weapons skills are king if you don't want the worst of the muscle strains

[pallid hinge]

yea that is a big point for not taking it - with the way weapon skill works currently I would not take it ever

the other big one is how much it screwed maintenance skill which is also one of the most power skill in the game - again I am not sure how the reworks have changed things

[keen gorge]

You can still powerlevel maintenance. Combat maintenance XP took a big hit but crafting things gives you big amounts of maintenance XP

But combat maintenance is pretty bad now. I'm talking .10 increments even if you start at 2 maintenance

[neat saffron]

You gain more than you lose if you pick fast learner alongside

im currently running it and i get... about 1 xp per zombie i beat to death

without fast learner i got like, 0.75.

[remote bear]

hm i guess it balances it out

[lethal wolf]

Anyone tested if the sight based traits (conspicuous, inconspicuous) are still as meh as before?

[pallid hinge]

I am running conspicuous in my current run - seem to be seen constantly

[ember totem]

I'm playing with conspicious, feels like free points. iirc, the reworked zombies vision and hearing, they are random in zeds now.

[soft viper]

It seemed to be roughly the same as always in my end

[ember totem]

I've been literally 1ft away from a zombie and they didn't notice me

[lethal wolf]

Hmm, I wonder if I should even consider Inconspicuous then, along with Graceful for real stealth

[soft viper]

This, it feels like most of them can hear you from a mile away

This is why I just tuned the hearing to normal

[past pewter]

Necro reply but they’re realistic now. You can only kill one zombie per shot give or take

[severe egret]

Having it random makes it hard to be consistent though. Hard to know how sneaky you gotta be at any given time.

[past pewter]

(Thank God)

[soft viper]

Dont that mean shotguns got heavily nerfed

[soft viper]

Random pretty much makes sneaking unviable

[lethal wolf]

I take Out of Shape/Unfit are still removable by just gaining fitness, including the low endurance regen part?

[past pewter]

Yes

[severe egret]

Totally. Itd be more reasonable if it was tied to movement speed. Then you could tell which zeds are more or less perceptive.

[soft viper]

That's a bad thing, no?

[past pewter]

However they’re easy to use at the first levels

[soft viper]

I mean the pistols are also pretty easy to use rn, you just gotta aim for the head

Even with level 0 you could still do a fair bit of clearing provided you got the ammo

[past pewter]

No. They’re good beginner guns. I’ve found with testing you can hit targets a lot easier with a single shotgun shot than a pistol. At level zero aiming I found that I could consistently kill 3-4 zombies with a single tube from a shotgun, where I would maybe kill 5 with a full magazine from an M9

It’s about ratios

[soft viper]

At the same time you're earning more exp with the pistol since you're landing more shots, regardless of whether they kill or not, no?

[past pewter]

I’m not sure about that

Regardless, they made the shotguns realistic which I like

It makes rifles a lot more competitive in the early game

[soft viper]

If the bolt actions were useful in early levels it'd be a nice buff

They were already pretty shit in B41

Overshadowed by every other gun

[past pewter]

Tbh they’re probably in the same league as shotguns right now

[soft viper]

In what sense

[past pewter]

In that you can do what the shotgun does but father away and vice versa.

[soft viper]

That's kinda eh, since shotguns kinda guarantee the kill hit whereas bolt actions barely do

[winged coral]

ive literally found zero guns, only ammo after raiding the surplus store and farmer supply store.

[soft viper]

Bad luck prolly

Guns do feel rarer now though

[winged coral]

they are

[past pewter]

Everybody took em

Though I feel at the Louisville checkpoint we should see a lot of civilian guns in the armories considering the military iirc confiscated them when people entered

[winged coral]

headed there next, the checkpoint has always given me alot of weapons.

scared itll be absolutely overrun with zombiess

[past pewter]

Also I’ve found a decent amount of guns personally on the apoc setting. I’ve found a few M9’s in the world. Raided the police department at rosewood and found two shotguns

[ember totem]

I have conspicious

[lethal wolf]

the zed aint even looking at you

[pallid hinge]

sometimes that is for me as well, the two traits just raise or lower your chance of being seen, it is a dice roll every tick or so

[soft viper]

Zed's either deaf as hell because of random hearing values or bro just doesn't care

[past pewter]

Go to the shooting range before that

[pallid hinge]

they only can see infront of them they have a cone, just like you

[winged coral]

its probably filled with millions of zomboids. checkpoint too.

this will be my death

but I will try

[past pewter]

Will most likely be better than the checkpoint

[winged coral]

inside the checkpoint it was always pretty easy

The surplus store I raided had so many zomboids around it

[lethal wolf]

Is it possible to turn off the Debug mode the game starts with? Asking for a friend

[winged coral]

sadly not.

[pallid hinge]

nope

[lethal wolf]

understandable, alright

[winged coral]

but its nothing that important you can just ignore

[pallid hinge]

there is a mod actually

but having it on actually helps with being able to report stuff

[lethal wolf]

so many questions, so little answers and time

[winged coral]

has anyone actually been to the louisville checkpoint yet?

[pallid hinge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386442926

I would keep it on though imo

[lethal wolf]

Thanks, will pass this forward

[past spear]

kudzu in zomboid when

[ember totem]

but is it deaf? I walked towards it

[lethal wolf]

that would depend on your settings and traits that are sound-based

conspicuous doesn't deal with sound, just sight

[pallid hinge]

yarr

that is what I was trying to say

[ember totem]

apocalypse settingsn

[ornate parcel]

chat how do we feel about the McCoy Estate

[ornate parcel]

this mod is broken, for me at least

it disabled my ability to take water from any water source like sinks, water dispensers and so on 😭

[pallid hinge]

[cunning turtle]

[cunning turtle]

Oh you keep using the smoker trait

[ornate parcel]

I deadass stopped using the (b41 obligatory) smoker trait

too much hassle for 2 points

[pallid hinge]

no one else in the comments section seems to be running into that issue - I would report it to the mod dev

[ornate parcel]

my character was chronically depressed

oh wait I'm sorry that's not the same mod then, this is the one that's broken
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386728445

[pallid hinge]

🤣

[ornate parcel]

I just woke up man 😭 catch me a break

[pallid hinge]

Fair! and I am just getting ready to passout

[glacial cape]

Came back to my ranch after clearing fallas lake, collected 100 eggs jesus

[primal wraith]

when will multiplayer 42 drops? i dont care if its buggy

[glacial cape]

When its ready

[cunning turtle]

Can relate

[cunning turtle]

Exactly

[honest nexus]

did the old menu screen get put back?

[pallid hinge]

yes, all the new art has been removed pending investigation

you can read about it here, lemmy101 is the lead dev for PZ https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hgwecs/comment/m2mm818/

[glacial cape]

I liked the new menu screen, I wasn't too sure on the loasding screens but the new menu art was cool

[ornate parcel]

does this include the moodles

[past spear]

the consensus seems to be that the new menu screen is great and the new loading screens kinda suck

[pallid hinge]

no, the moodles were made by Mash, another co-founder of The Indie Stone (she made the old moodles too)

[clever imp]

Zomboid mostly uses KG, but the KG scaling for some items is a little unrealistic, so chalking it up to arbitrary is easier

[past spear]

crazy to think they're the same items

[clever imp]

You can tell the intended weight measuring system is based mostly on KG due to body weight and carry capacity

[past spear]

no, the zomboid player characters actually weigh 80 pounds

[ornate parcel]

a man can dream that they add an option to use the old moodles

[clever imp]

when being as thin as a piece of paper is considered healthy

[glacial cape]

I prefer the style of the old moodles but I also prefer the clarity of the newer ones so I';m torn tbh, as someone who wears glasses the newer are very accessible, maybe an option to change the UI scale of the moodles and switch between styles would've been nice but I guess thats what mods are for

[pallid hinge]

there are mods available already if it bothers you that much

[past spear]

the new ones are growing on me

[pallid hinge]

They should just get Unconid to do the menu and loading screen art, like they did with all the flyer artwork and stuff

[clever imp]

I'm close sighted so I have to use glasses p much 24/7

I still prefer the old, pixel-art style, but the new ones aren't too that bad, I'll probably get used to them

[ornate parcel]

yeah but I feel like they all have an issue, some get blurry when you zoom out (I have no fucking reason why lmao), some are too pixelated, some are too blurry all together, wrong sizes, none of them feel right to me

'cause none of them are the originals

only redrawn/retraced from the original ones

[pallid hinge]

next option is to make your own 🙂

[ornate parcel]

no I will use the new ones and either a) get used to them or b) wait for a good mod / wait for them to add the option to use old moodles

[pallid hinge]

I got downvoted to oblivion for saying I don't mind the new ones on reddit lol

[ornate parcel]

I have no pixel art skills at all, me having to remake the moodles would look like a 4 year old's first drawing

[pallid hinge]

so many people are mad about them

[ornate parcel]

reddit is a weird place

[ember totem]

yes, did they change it?

[pallid hinge]

really is

[ornate parcel]

I avoid it all together, same with discord for the most part 😭

I am in 4 servers, 3 of them being IRL friend groups

I joined this just for B42 stuff lmao

[pallid hinge]

Gosh I am on so many servers, but I only look at like 3-4

[glacial cape]

same

[pallid hinge]

unless I need something

[glacial cape]

mainly just servers for announcements on games I play

like I'm in the DRG server but I never even speak in it 😂

[pallid hinge]

and for that I started actually pushing those notifications to a server with just my friends for game news updates lol 😆

[ornate parcel]

did westpoint change with B42?

[pallid hinge]

I believe so, I haven't looked at it yet - but I know they glowed up Twiggy's

Was on one of the devblog posts

[ornate parcel]

but like layout wise, reckon I can still use the pzmap project thing?

[pallid hinge]

hasn't been updated but yea I don't see the layout changing THAT much

[ornate parcel]

I'll try 🙏

[pallid hinge]

You can always download the really pretty new map that is on the spawn screen - posted here #1318684957526458450 message

[ornate parcel]

appreciated but that's already what I'm going off of 😅

but it's not entirely accurate, especially regarding individual store locations etc.

I really gotta say, in B42, you're properly "punished" for using a lot of armor, it feels really good

I find myself opting to not wear bulletproof vests etc. because they do so much bad, you heat up so fast, make you slower, make you much more uncomfortable, weigh a lot, and so on

[lethal wolf]

as long as padding your own clothing with tailoring doesnt punish you, so the skill becomes important

[glacial cape]

Can you not dismantle digital watches anymore? For electrical xp and scrap electronics

oh nvm you can it just wasn't letting me use one of the alternate tools to do so

[ornate parcel]

anyone else struggling to even just keep their weight 💀

[honest nexus]

this is neat, you couldnt clip through these sprites before could you?

I would buy a physical copy of this map

[glacial cape]

Anyone know if animals can drink tainted water

[whole tundra]

Anyone know if theres a carving work station?

[glacial cape]

I think a basic table is good enough to carve on

[whole tundra]

Yeah but theres no way that carving only has like 33 recipes.

And knapping only has 9

[glacial cape]

you probably haven't levelled up enough to view any news recipes

[whole tundra]

Ahhh true true

[glacial cape]

What else is there to knap besides basic stone weapons/tools?

[ornate cosmos]

Skibidi

[silk nova]

Are they aware about the missing feature of sterilize bandages and rags with hot water?

[mental laurel]

Yes

[silk nova]

It's a bug or is intended not to be present, i just ask cause I'm writing the feedback and if it is already know I'll skip it

[mental laurel]

It's a bug!

[silk nova]

Ok thanks pat!

[hollow sonnet]

Does the compass have a use or is it just there to look and be cool

[whole tundra]

it tells you cardinal directions

[hollow sonnet]

[wild oak]

im not sure if youre the person to ask but i just wanna know why does this happen with the playermodel when shooting? im certain its been reported im just curious to how this could happen (that grey creature is me)

[whole tundra]

Man im wondering where all the cool spears are

[wild oak]

if its even known on how or why its happening at all, if not understandable cause im confused too 😭

[hollow sonnet]

Spear fishing…..

[woven beacon]

Yeah its a bit jarring lol. That and not being able to shoot downed zs

[wild oak]

think i understand the malfunction happening behind not being able to shoot downed z's but im talking about from a code perspective

[whole tundra]

hold left alt while shooting

[woven beacon]

Does that work? Fr lol

[whole tundra]

yep

If you are specifically aiming for downed zeds. Hold left alt while shooting plus if you want to target a crawler in a bunch with a melee weapon. do the same and hold left alt while attacking

[hollow mica]

guys I'm I stupid or you can't clean dirty bandages anymore?

[whole tundra]

you can just not in sinks apparently, it uses water from your container in your inventory

[deep tusk]

i hope this is a bug, has to be

[hollow mica]

damn, I was going crazy with a whole pile of dirty rags after getting smacked by a bull

[velvet egret]

yeah it’s a known bug

[deep tusk]

good to know, thank you

[turbid gorge]

better sorting should really be vanilla

have sorting categories that distinguish between perishable and non perishable food and stuff

this new rendering systme makes it way easier to show off bases tho

[harsh gate]

Yoooo
Theres a Log wall wilderness Fortress right above AMZ Steel. Lovin it.

[ornate parcel]

westpoint PD has two floors now? 👀

and basement 🗣️ 🗣️

[lament crow]

when is the next hotfix in, anyone know? would love to play more but too many minor things buggin me

[turbid gorge]

probs a week

they seem to be gonna make one big patch at a time instead of a million mini ones

[wraith rune]

They could be like... Spending their Christmases with family or something too

[turbid gorge]

indeed

[lament crow]

😩

[turbid gorge]

at least there will be an explosion of mods the next few days

[fierce mountain]

Its christmas next week. I personally dont mind if the first patch is next year to let the devs chill slightly after trying to crunch out this before christmas.

[turbid gorge]

i just hope in the first patch fast forward walking is fixed

rn every time you click a new block it cancels the fast forward

[lament crow]

See i'd have that same line of thinking if literal core survival mechanics werent broken.

Like food assembly and also the missing ability to boil water

[fierce mountain]

Boiling water to make it safe is gone?

[lethal wolf]

I would almost imagine we got the b42 this "early" before holidays so there could be that one bugfix wave so people would have bit more playable version over the holidays

[fierce mountain]

Also what is wrong with food assembly?

[hybrid whale]

Will multiplayer be added to the unstable build or will we have to wait until the completed version drops?

[chrome fable]

i really hope they'll be able to drop a patch before Christmas because if they won't be able to finish it in time we'll have to wait all the way up to mid-January for it

[fierce mountain]

Until most of content is done we are waiting they want to solve most of the bugs client end before multiplayer bugs get added to testing phase in mass.

[mild axle]

We definitely need more patches before we get multiplayer

[hybrid whale]

Oh alr, also does everyone just start with a gun now cuz I started 2 games and both of them started with a pistol

[mild axle]

Yes for testing

[lethal wolf]

Yes, to show off new Aiming system

Likely will be removed later on

[static heart]

Guys, the best way to get sapling is to use a knife, how ?

[hybrid whale]

Alr

[chrome fable]

makes sense anyway, an average Kentuckian is expected to have one I think

[fierce mountain]

I think a perk to start with the pistol might be a good option in the future.

[lethal wolf]

Like being a veteran, police officer for example

[fierce mountain]

It isnt OP and ammo is limited. Maybe a bit too much as is. Less ammo for it will probably be perfect. If the first phases of MP gives you the pistol to start with it will be adding a slight bit of fun for some MP learning games. (I know some are waiting for MP)

[lethal wolf]

I mean by default the game starts on...7th? of July, 9am - none of the occupations are actually at work...! A police officer with a holster and a firearm in there would be realistic 😄

I am fine without special starting equipment, if the new aiming system makes the player have an easier time with killing zeds with lower aiming skill level

would be more sense for me, to have to search for those better weapons instead of having one necessarily

[meager basalt]

hmm guys, im trying the unstable version. i did followed the instruction but my screen just stuck on main menu and nothing showing? any help?

[south stump]

did anyone manage to get the vending machine gui to work or is that not implemented yet?

[severe prawn]

Whoa... this was not a necessary addition.

[wild oak]

im getting rdr2 horse in snow flashbacks

[brazen jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991056903482253383/1319441256883159040/bounce.gif

[lament crow]

Yup.

Im not sure about boling water in normal ovens or anything but doing so on a campfire causes it to not boil at all, doesnt even get hot

And also food prep, multiple people ive seen post diffrent problems (but in my experience) when i went to try and make a pot of rice apparently it said i needed water even know i had plenty and the saucepen was full of water, and also i had a hotdog and hotdog bun seperatley which i couldent combine

[regal spindle]

I thought it was wierd that I couldn't seem to heat water?

[remote bear]

DAMN wtf hahaha

[remote bear]

Try verifying files or do a fresh install, I mean I just turned the game on and off and it worked

[severe prawn]

That is the realism we need

[remote bear]

This is the RDR2 of Zombie Games

[severe prawn]

I don't think those were as big as these.

[wild oak]

true

[remote bear]

now i finally have zomballs in my favourite zombie game

[cunning turtle]

[wild oak]

and the exhausted moodle!!!!

[cunning turtle]

[fierce mountain]

Ah just sounds like the big overhaul isnt all fully combined yet potentially.

[severe prawn]

Perfection

[fierce mountain]

In regards to the water bit that might be a oversight part of that issue. It is a big overhaul so I am not surprised that water might of not been correctly linked yet.

[turbid gorge]

PSA: USE BLEACH BOTTLES AS WATER BOTTLES

[severe prawn]

Fan service in pz

[turbid gorge]

bleach bottles last so much longer

esp on high thirst

[visual trail]

a mod has already been pushed to workshop for this

[severe prawn]

Uhh, shouldn't new liquid system now make bleach bottle have some leftovers or something?

[fierce mountain]

What is its ml size?

[turbid gorge]

nope

[turbid gorge]

its 1 liter so 1000

[severe prawn]

That could be a nice touch

[turbid gorge]

actually you can drink diluted bleach without getting sick

[fierce mountain]

Same as a hot water bottle then.

[turbid gorge]

pouring a tiny amount of bleach into a large container of water is a real govenrment approved method of sterilizing water in an emergency situation

[severe prawn]

Maybe, but im not risking it

[turbid gorge]

the dose makes the poison

same as drinking peroxide in high concentrations could hurt you but poured into water it would generally not do shit if its diluted enough

hell you have trace amounts of mercury and uranium coursing through your blood

a little bit of almost everything makes it into your body, there's microplastics inside your brain rn

[remote bear]

[wild oak]

[remote bear]

I do hope the devs feel okay that were memeing on the exhausted moodle so much lmfao

It is the most fun I've had for a while lol

[wild oak]

the devs would dare believe we were innocent smh

[remote bear]

we are literally one step away of getting some freaky mods

[severe prawn]

This new moodle is far baddier than old sick moodle

No chance

[remote bear]

I cant remember what it was, wasnt it purple and a sneezing face?

[turbid gorge]

evidently they were actually getting quite upset by the community reaction to everything

[severe prawn]

[turbid gorge]

herding zombies is a lot more pertinent now

esp with a lot being slower now its a bit easier

[severe prawn]

What is this town? A Rosewood? I cant understand it.

Roofs look amazing

[turbid gorge]

yeah its rosewood

[severe prawn]

Phew

[remote bear]

I'm gonna start doing my little nomad playthrough soon

[severe prawn]

I will wait for a month or so. I was waiting patiently for b42, and i will wait a bit longer for fixes and mods arrive

[meager basalt]

oh yeah it did, thank u

[turbid gorge]

i really hope standardized vehicle upgrades comes out soon

i want my armored cars back, mere mortal shitty cars that break quickly suck

[silk nova]

I'll wait the bug fix

[dusk plume]

Anyone else not been able to jump a high fence yet? I'm pretty heavy but I feel like they've put the difficulty wayy up on that one

[chilly hawk]

No news about multiplayer??

[novel grove]

it's been three days since release of unstable lmao and its the christmas holidays

[potent summit]

do i have to keep my Animals inside while its rainig?

[turbid gorge]

can you stuff animals inside a car?

[sleek hinge]

whats the chance of the ??? in the blog post be domestic animals like dogs or cats

[regal spindle]

I think there's specialized animal carrying trailers

[lament crow]

Yeah i mean its fine that things arent working, cuz duh the "unstable tag"

but when they said 42 was going to be unstable, i thought they purely meant all the new stuff would be having problems NOT OLD SYSTEMS ALSO BUGGIN OUT. Ah well hopefully that patch comes soon

[potent summit]

ive found a cat toy.. maybe

[sleek hinge]

i've found a dog house with water pot

[turbid gorge]

bro yeah

[sleek hinge]

wut

[turbid gorge]

looking at the calorie meter... YOU BURN A WHOLE CALORIE BY WALKING 1 FOOT

that is absolutely not how calories work lmao you need to run over a football field to burn 100 calories

ONE MILE is 100 calories

they need to tone this back lmao its always been too much but this is even worse

[fierce mountain]

Its a new system as the backend code for how containers are done changed most likely. That and maybe hardcoded stuff changed too. Anything recipie wise IS unstable. Boiling water is a recipie. We just gotta wait. 😄

[potent summit]

without a trait adding or decreasing stats?

[turbid gorge]

i mean i have high hunger but why would that at all affect calories

[gritty iron]

Yeah but the game isn't using 1:1 real life time scale, so resource consumption speed being faster to isn't strange is it?

[turbid gorge]

it kind of is

the calorie counts are still ridiculous

[gritty iron]

Like, frame it in minutes of walk rather than distance, is it still that far off?

[potent summit]

will likely be due to the game's mechanics, as actual hunger is only measured by consumption and not based on an emotional state.

do i have to keep my livestock away from rain?

[turbid gorge]

yes extremely

who takes 10 minutes to walk 30 feet outside their house and somehow burns 100 calories doing it

somethings just hella off and it forces you to eat a stupid amount

like even the processed junk food barely holds your weight

id at least cut the drain in half

eating a huge meal of junk food should not be negated by a couple hours of exploration

[gritty iron]

Let me rephrase the question:
How many minutes does it take to burn 100 calories walking irl?
Compared to the in game amount of minutes walking, how does it differ?

[turbid gorge]

30 minutes of walking minimum to burn 100

ingame its triple or quadruple that

you burn like 1 calorie every single step

[gritty iron]

So 100calories in 10 minutes?

[turbid gorge]

about

[autumn pier]

I guess I’ll just stock on high calorie food and sit down

[turbid gorge]

god forbid you wanna play the game lmao

[autumn pier]

I survived a week already, killed 150 of them

[gritty iron]

That's just real life again

[autumn pier]

Found myself a backpack and some other essentials

[autumn pier]

Muscle strain enabled?

[turbid gorge]

no

[autumn pier]

I do

[turbid gorge]

i got sick of that shit so fast

[autumn pier]

Fair

Also got 5% sprinters

I want to get to the supermarket but for there will be some sprinters for sure

Rosewood is where I’m at rn

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-gif-23861627

[potent summit]

margie needs food

[turbid gorge]

yeah no fuck that, muscle strain + sprinters mfs are masochists

i for one do not like hooking jumper cables up to my nipples

[rare sparrow]

just another one in the series of hardcore

[fierce mountain]

Damn ya really going hardcore. I respect ya survived a week already. Good luck on surviving a month.

[autumn pier]

Thanks, I’m gonna be going to the wilderness the moment I feel like I’m truly read for it, just gotta get some high calori food for the market first

I hope lakes generate in the out-of-map forests

[potent summit]

ok, i see. No horde night fans here...

[turbid gorge]

but yeah calorie degredation needs toned down, i cant seem to find a sandbox option to slow it down

[autumn pier]

Never understood why a cabin would get assaulted by brainless corpses in the middle of the night tbh.

I would understand if it was a town sized base with some generators running to power lights and such

[fierce mountain]

I would instead suggest going to Ekron and going for the farming life if you can. Got a steel mill near it you can clear to maintain items too.

[woven beacon]

Cheers that works a charm. Still kinda bugged with m16 but it helped alot

[whole tundra]

NP

Has anyone devled into Blacksmithing properly?

[autumn pier]

The M16 is one pf the mentioned guns with bugs/crash issues

[turbid gorge]

like the only way to gain weight in this game is either eat like a fucking insane glutton all day... or be alcoholic and chug fuckin bourbons

[autumn pier]

Just so you know

[sleek hinge]

I agree. At least, we need the sandbox option for it.

[fierce mountain]

I want to once I secured the farm with the well near the steel mill.

[potent summit]

i totaly understand, i wish it would be more random or releated to events not timed but after 2.3k hours my punishment must be harder sometimes 😄

[turbid gorge]

i also just turned off zombie respawn

if i clear the map i get to enjoy no more zombies, seems fair to me

[autumn pier]

Do animals spawn/appear in the wilderness?

[turbid gorge]

yes

but farms have garunteed spawns

[whole tundra]

anyone found iron ore yet?

[autumn pier]

Which types of animals? Deer, rabbits…but any pigs, chickens, or cows?

[fluid adder]

How can I fix the blurry screen while zooming out?

[autumn pier]

I hope they do but I have no problem leading a couple of them away from a farm

[versed dagger]

Found the Dwarf Fortress reference. Big props @mental laurel if it was from you, and massive props with the writing and lore. You've got me hooked.

[ornate cosmos]

Toilet

[fierce mountain]

Any major new lore for the zombie outbreak?

[autumn pier]

I believe that’s sight impairment, you gain it from not having glasses as short sighted or wearing a face mask, such as a welder mask for example

[fierce mountain]

If so can you tell me which ones it is. Not the contents

[autumn pier]

||Spiffo caused the virus|| theory

Or speculation is a better term

[fierce mountain]

I know of that refernce seen it already. That is alongside the other ones too still

[versed dagger]

Yah. A lot of it comes from Knox News and Kentucky Herald's newspapers, from TV news and certain radio frequencies as well. Not telling though.

[past spear]

i mean its clearly a joke

[fierce mountain]

Gotcha I will have to do certain runs listening to the radio then for new additions.

[fluid adder]

Ohh, alright thanks

[autumn pier]

You never know…

[versed dagger]

[mental laurel]

Not implemented, was only an example

[fierce mountain]

I will find it funny if in the future there is meant to be new readable files in the secret laboratory which gives us a new theory.

[mental laurel]

Very necessary

[past spear]

is it currently possible to breed deer

[humble sail]

Are mods available on unstable?

[past spear]

yes, if theyre updated

[humble sail]

Shweet

[whole tundra]

Is there even iron ore in the game?

[autumn pier]

Oh…that’s why the vending machines had “nothing” in them

I’m hoping their windows can be broken

[mental laurel]

Lots, but the virus origin will never be definitively answered by us

[past spear]

i wonder how long itll take for the soda thing to be patched because its hilarious

[mental laurel]

I forgot this!

[turbid gorge]

like its ridiculous i burn off an entire cooked steaks calories in like 30 seconds of gameplay, outrageously insane

[fierce mountain]

Thats what I like. Add more possible theories so everyone can choose their own headcannon. 😄

[wild oak]

plate underscore brendan will the racoons be or have a spiffo variant

[versed dagger]

[severe prawn]

Exactly

[remote bear]

Someone's gonna fuckin' die someone lied to me! There is no Sprinter Speed setting

[woven beacon]

Where's that?

[remote bear]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-band-of-brothers-show-band-of-brothers-hbo-joe-toye-band-of-brothers-joe-toye-gif-17603868514752422048

[autumn pier]

There is if you choose random and click on the “advanced settings” box

[fierce mountain]

I think its near the steel mill not sure. I saw a streamer find it. Had one of the 1800's pump tap

[remote bear]

Nooo man, I checked and that's general Zombie Speed, not sprinter running speeds 😭

[woven beacon]

Dwarfpilled

[remote bear]

I can't have -25% Running Speed Zombies

[spark cosmos]

(The someone is you, after being chased by a sprinter)

[versed dagger]

[woven beacon]

Steel mill as in the one near the Echo Creek shooting range?

[remote bear]

"Hi, you're probably wondering how I got in this situation..."

[winged coral]

I'm about to enter the louisville checkpoint. fingerscrossed theres not a million zomboids.

[woven beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nawhhhhh-nah-gif-7826720187455471435

[winged coral]

yessss

[forest shore]

You're going through the evac camp? I imagine it'll be absolutely packed.

[woven beacon]

If it's anything like the gun range near echo Creek you're looking at minimum 600 zs

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/nvm-meme-gif-14703226522632854567

[fierce mountain]

Yeah west of there.

[winged coral]

actually the amount of zombies at the gun range under louisville was so little

[woven beacon]

You'll need to get out of your car too to open the gates aswell, fingers crossed but it ain't looking good haha

[past spear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-walking-dead-rick-grimes-atlanta-gif-22116117

[autumn pier]

Cause they’re all over the checkpoint/survivor camps

[winged coral]

uhh oh well im driving towards it right now.

[past spear]

i think that was a genius idea

[woven beacon]

If u got a sledgehammer u could go in another way

[past spear]

realistic? no. cool as hell? yes.

[fierce mountain]

Let us know how much nope/10 it is 😄

[autumn pier]

Cool as hell until 5% of them are sprinters

🏃‍♂️💨

[woven beacon]

Ngl I've got 1500hrs and having half the zombies be slow shambles is almost as challenging as sprinters

U can't really herd them like you could in b41

[winged coral]

looks like its possible

I think..

[woven beacon]

I hope the change stays

[past spear]

high pop shamblers are my favorite

[woven beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/shining-gif-27476019

[autumn pier]

My friend, you’re in for a treat

And it’s not gonna be a very good one either

[fierce mountain]

go loud and it will change fast.

[winged coral]

ok i just abandoned my car and now its surounded by 20 thousand zomboids

shouldve turned the damn engine off

[fierce mountain]

From behind or infront?

[woven beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-funny-gif-24793899

[autumn pier]

Should have gone through the opening

Or brought/crafted a sledge

[fierce mountain]

But how else can you get the steel barrels for charcoal and water barrels?

[autumn pier]

You can always build wooden ones though

[severe prawn]

As a PZ ost fan, i can say that new high and low variations of old remastered songs are AMAZING https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHO78wKIBPhWhcMO-L_e5Hqbh-TBDkAH-&si=kWAZod7D5V3DGyg2

[winged coral]

im gonna make a run for my van

ok yeah the checkpoint is too much. theres a billion of them inside

ok I literally have 4fps and im not even inside the fuck

[past spear]

now imagine how bad the lag would be in b41

[ornate parcel]

I feel like they increased zombie spawns just to stress test B42 💀

[soft viper]

but they decreased zombie spawns

they just happen to be more congested in important areas now

hell even the cabins in the woods have zombies around them

[wild oak]

i tp'ed to a cabin in the middle of fuck nowhere with one whole can of food in it and i got a total of 319 kills

it seems more like theyve just compressed all the zeds into one spot rather than actually making it fully make sense, hope it gets changed and it really just is stresstesting

[winged coral]

yeah ok this is not normal

i went around the fence to look inside and my game just went down to 1fps

it took me 4 minutes to drive out

[forest shore]

They said the population density was changed so that there's more zeds in population centers and less out in the countryside. Which makes sense imo. There is the sandbox setting to change it from urban focused to uniform, which is more like what it was.

[winged coral]

i think its nice and all, but this is just not normal.

[wild oak]

where are you on the map and whats the zed pop set to? gonna tp there in debug and pray my pc doesnt explode

[winged coral]

I literally can't even get into louisville, and not because its hard but simply becuase my pc can't handle the amount.

im 10 days in right now, so its higher than normal. im on survior mode.

[severe prawn]

Do you actually feel performance boost?

[past spear]

i havent run into a horde yet

[severe prawn]

But usually?

[past spear]

i havent spent much time in b42 because i was sick

[severe prawn]

[past spear]

yes, in normal gameplay ive noticed a performance increase

[severe prawn]

Gorgeous

[turbid gorge]

driving is where the real performance boost is

[past spear]

yep

[turbid gorge]

suddenly you arent butt chugging while driving

[severe prawn]

HELL YEAH

[past spear]

i avoided driving before because of lag, now i no longer feel like i have to

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-san-gokuh-gokug-dbz-driving-gif-16918176

[past spear]

great filler episode

[winged coral]

I'm still there and im on 1fps

[turbid gorge]

is your pc from 1996

[winged coral]

no

3060ti, 12600k

i restarded the game and reloaded. the buildings, my car and zeds are now invisible.

doesn't seem to fix itself. damn it.

seems like ill have to restart.

[strong gull]

not sure why sleeping quality is poor on a bedroll

[past spear]

ever slept on one

[strong gull]

ive slept on everything you can sleep on

[past spear]

horseback?

[strong gull]

Sadly not

[novel grove]

then you haven't slept on everything you can sleep on...

[strong gull]

shush child

im just kidding around

[novel grove]

I'm 31, I'm not a child. Nice job making a statement when it's not true 🫡

[severe prawn]

He is just joking bud.

[strong gull]

Yea, buddy.

Friendo.

[severe prawn]

This is so gorgeous. Especially violin in high part. https://youtu.be/pNz8tr3s600?si=PwXJxwev8cf4wPGR

[winged coral]

got my save working again thank god

[silk nova]

i really want back the new loading screen arts!!1 they were amazing!

[severe prawn]

Are you serious? The new title screen was pretty good, but i dont feel the same about loading screens. Those are too realistic

[turbid gorge]

bro a craft helper is so insanely necessary and its not updated

how tf do i get a spearhead

why ONLY a spearhead? why not any of the knives? how does any of this make sense? why are there no subsitutions?

[silk nova]

yes i'm seriuos they were really nice and finally i can see the lore in gmae made of pictures

i really don't understand the hate toward them

at the end they were just for loading screen

[severe prawn]

Yeah, looks weird. This is unstable after all.

[silk nova]

i just hope they will bring them back

[turbid gorge]

and spearhead is literally not included in the crafting list????????

what were they thinking? how are we supposed to know?

[past spear]

welcome dale mulligan

[forest shore]

There's a mod on the workshop to only render x amount of zombies - try downloading that and see if it works for ya?

[forest shore]

I liked them so muich they're now my background.

[wild oak]

question, if i begin a run now in unstable will the run be playable through all the patches bugfixes and eventual stable build?

[past spear]

probably not

[forest shore]

It's possible, but based off my past experiences assume not.

[severe prawn]

BRUH...No way two letters got volandemort treatment

[forest shore]

On the flip side, I remember someone who ported their save through several patches in an unstable and the devs ended up using said save to fix a ton of memory leaks and other bugs lol

[severe prawn]

Bro calm down. This is not that bad.

[forest shore]

It absolutely did - because it's all anyone would talk about for like 12 hours. I don't blame them.

[blazing coral]

iirc the recipes now have 1 listing for the outcome and you can click the icons on the ingredients to see the possible alternatives (again, iirc it's the little arrow below spearhead)

[wild oak]

time to test and have fun till stable in that case

[valid ore]

when b42 will release on multiplayer

[dusty zephyr]

take back to emote plz new one are really bad https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386486141

[severe prawn]

Not even Indie Stone knows. We must pray.

[valid ore]

real

[forest shore]

I don't get why everyone hates the new moodles.

[valid ore]

ur scaring me

[valid ore]

because the new moodles are not og like the olds one

[severe prawn]

Nah, bro. They are not bad. It's just different. We can get used to it.

[dusty zephyr]

nha they looks sims emote lmao

[severe prawn]

And i don't mind that

[forest shore]

Maybe it's because I've been around for forever - but the old moodles remind me too much of alpha. I like the higher res moodles a lot more.

[civic drum]

You would think that somewhere in all of McCoy Logging there'd be a wood ax.

[winged coral]

I'm having issues finding weapons too

[forest shore]

I feel the old moodles didn't fit in anymore - the game doesn't rely on pixel art anymore in any part of the game really it's all 3D models. So why would the moodles remain pixel - it felt out of place.

[winged coral]

probably just alot more rare now

[wild oak]

sit here and tell me you enjoy the freakiest moodle of all time aka exhausted

[forest shore]

I haven't found a single axe now that you mention it. I believe you can craft one though.

[civic drum]

I found a worn and dull fire axe, and that's it here.

[winged coral]

found alot of hand axes though

[forest shore]

You can find flint nodules on roads (that's where I've been finding them at least)

Oooo whetstones should be able to sharpen those axes!

The crafting for the crude one is broken though cuz... Idk it is.

[blazing coral]

sorry it's the 2 arrows above the ingredient that lets you see alternatives. but I can see in your screenshot you already clicked that

[autumn pier]

Accidentally tripped another house alarm, had to go to the nearby forest and almost got to the point of starvation, I survived but my character is now on the verge of depression

[civic drum]

I've found no axes except the one worn and dull fire axe this entire (25 day) playthrough.

[chilly atlas]

tbh i keep finding house alarms to be more beneficial than not at this point but i keep tripping them in the lower pop areas

[autumn pier]

Found mayo and now I’m recovering weight, no underweight for me!! 🥳

[past spear]

i love that the phone book has a boredom modifier but doesnt let you read it

[turbid gorge]

yeah i might just turn nutrition off for now

these calorie requirements are bonkers

[severe prawn]

That is the best part, isn't it?

[past spear]

how many calories are required per in-game day to keep your weight?

[turbid gorge]

2000 or so but that doesnt include you know walking around

[severe prawn]

Depends on amount of your activity

[turbid gorge]

realistically you need like... 5000 or more lmao esp if you are going around fighitng and shit

[past spear]

thats realistic

[turbid gorge]

meanwhile... for some reason? food has so little calories in this game, even processed junk food

[severe prawn]

Nah 5000 is to much. Maybe 3500 or something

[past spear]

soldiers get 4000 calories a day and they are arguably under less stress than your zomboid character

[autumn pier]

ID card name: Guy Foy

[turbid gorge]

the only way to maintain weight is to eat like 30 potatoes a day or chug tons of bourbon

[severe prawn]

I think i know what i want for Christmas

[past spear]

a ketchup packet?

[turbid gorge]

i have that

[severe prawn]

Bruh

[turbid gorge]

still you burn like a calorie a second at least and walking like 30 feet you burn 100

[civic drum]

All right, for anyone looking for axes, I've figured it out. Don't bother with looking for them inside of buildings. Look for McCoy Logging trucks, almost all of them have axes.

[severe prawn]

Crowbar is superior dummy

[civic drum]

Can't chop down trees with a crowbar.

[severe prawn]

Uhh. Is that all

[civic drum]

Yeah, I use crowbars as my main weapon, needed axes for trees.

[severe prawn]

Than oke

[forest shore]

Weird I can't get the 'cruder whetstone' mod to showup in my mod list.

[autumn pier]

Looked at the rosewood school and FPS dropped to 5

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-5848418847127216186

i really kind of wish there was a 'realistic' population option where each towns max zombies was literally its irl population at the time

imagine muldraugh with only like 3000 zombies total spread out throughout the entire town

ingame theres like... 10k lmao

[autumn pier]

Backstabbed my first zed in B42

[forest shore]

Someone shared a screenshot yesterday said thery cleared Muldraugh - only had like 2k kills

[obsidian fiber]

Only place I found unrealistic is that dark wallow lake had maybe 500 zombies in this decently large cabin

Was sneaking up on a zombie near a window and about 40 zombies load in just standing about inside an office

[digital cloud]

steadfast spiffo ‼️

[severe prawn]

[digital cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/spiffo-zomboid-project-zomboid-my-beloved-racoon-gif-26477188

[forest shore]

Steadfast Spiffo is like $30 on ebay rn 👀

[digital cloud]

last time i checked it was like 240 at least

i am not selling mine though he is the only thing that brings me joy

[mental laurel]

What

[turbid gorge]

the search function is confusing for making things like that

[tawny orbit]

@raw parcel i think you can find animal that which food can eat

[turbid gorge]

youd think it was knapping or something but it just doesn't tell you anything