Build 42 Unstable Out Now

[merry nest]

its like minecraft 1.19 all over again XD when that was first announced, they dropped an experiemental update snapshot then a few if not months later drop the actual update

[lament cedar]

Indie Stone is NOT Mojang

Mojang is a lot worse imo

[tawny orbit]

crashed lol

[pallid hinge]

The Indie Game Store is way better than Mojang

[raw parcel]

most i can do for you is pump saline in your scrotum and see what happens

[merry nest]

also factor in the fact that... xmas is right round the corner... sooo holidays... n production is halting prolly

[lament cedar]

At least Indie stone didn't sell out their game to some corporate company

[ember elbow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3386906181 answered my own question

[lament cedar]

now that the team expanded and resources have improved, I'm optimistic about things.

[chrome fable]

wouldn't be their worst decision

[lament cedar]

I think it would be their worst decision

[raw parcel]

aaa game companies pull far more egregious shit than delayed releases

pz made by pdox, i shudder at the dlc and feature bloat

[velvet egret]

🧡

[chrome fable]

imagine if Valve bought TIGS though

[lament cedar]

Dude...

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[raw parcel]

Valve would probably let things happen

[chrome fable]

that'd be fire man

[lament cedar]

I mean, Valve is having a problem too

[raw parcel]

most of their IPs are from modders they hired

[lament cedar]

They don't release shit anymore.

[merry nest]

atleast we got helldivers 2 getting fucked over by sony in its rise to fame but irrelevent

[chrome fable]

oh they will alright

[raw parcel]

cant believe we'll get gta VI before hl3

[lament cedar]

I remember when they Released half life Alyx, best days of my life so far

[merry nest]

we never are getting half life 3 keep dreaming

[pallid hinge]

I still haven't played it - it's been on my list to play for a long while now

[raw parcel]

half life 3 is actually the underground facility at the secret base

[lament cedar]

Valve confirmed we ain't getting half life 3, or portal 3, or Left 4 dead 3

[merry nest]

tho i am digging the new animations on doors n such

[chrome fable]

didn't Gaben say in some documentary that he wanted to get back to developing hl3

[raw parcel]

on some level i think theyre sitting on their IPs knowing damn well theyre invaluable, in case steam falls over and dies

[lament cedar]

which will never will, I mean steam.

[raw parcel]

in a way, hedging with unrealized value

[lament cedar]

or well, it'll take a while before steam finally throws in the towel

[raw parcel]

anything is possible

[lament cedar]

Epic Games is shit, Origin games is shit, all launchers are the best example of a shitty game launcher

Maybe I'm biased, cause I grew up with steam.

[raw parcel]

youd be amazed how big the guano industry was before synthetic fertilizers

the USA went to war over this shit

[chrome fable]

Steam is only good because of the workshop

[lament cedar]

is this some sort of analogy you're trying to get here?

[raw parcel]

yeah

[lament cedar]

Facts 100%

[chrome fable]

GOG is the only good place to buy games online

[raw parcel]

steam dominated the market way before the workshop guys

[opaque schooner]

What? Why do you say so?

[pallid hinge]

This must be it! I woke up at 6am, went out to fight zombies and loot -I was getting drowsy around 6pm and I found a soda can so I drank it and now it is 12:10am and my character can't sleep cause they aren't tired at all lol

[raw parcel]

workshop was only introduced in what, 2014?

[chrome fable]

no drm + you actually own your games

[raw parcel]

devs goofed and made all caffeinated beverages 100x too powerful

[opaque schooner]

Steam itself does drm?

[raw parcel]

its trivial to fix it in the script files

[pallid hinge]

is that it? It's in the lua

[haughty oasis]

Indeed, a very weak shit

[raw parcel]

just divide all the fatigue change values by 100

[chrome fable]

they allow it

[raw parcel]

and youll have the intended stats

[pallid hinge]

LOL finally figured it out

[chrome fable]

also you don't need to install any external launchers if you buy from gog, you just get the installation file and that's it

[pallid hinge]

We were trying to figure out why I was feeling like passing out all the time even with wakeful

no negative sleep traits

[opaque schooner]

Steam doesn’t need external launchers

[solar hemlock]

is there any way to manually make basements

[raw parcel]

@pallid hinge look for fluids_Beverages.txt

i can give you my modified file if you dont want the hassle

[chrome fable]

Steam IS an external launcher, + the fact that they allow companies such as Rockstar and Ubisoft to force players to install their own launchers to play their games through STEAM is diabolical

[subtle spade]

Have molotovs been removed?

[hallow sail]

anyone know how to open the self storage units in brandenburg

[static heart]

guys how to make this

[pallid hinge]

I'll take a look! I was curious if you have looked at the muscle strain lua as well

[opaque schooner]

So what

[raw parcel]

no but i have to go to bed

[pallid hinge]

fair, have good sleeps 🙂

[raw parcel]

ill maybe look at it tomorrow

but you can easily see for yourself, everything is in plaintext

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts

everything is there

[static heart]

this craft is non sense, you have to use an anvil to make an anvil lul

[pallid hinge]

beautiful!

[static heart]

oh nevermind

[chrome fable]

if you put up with it it's only gonna get worse, but I'm glad that you don't seem to mind

[silent dragon]

how do you throw zombies out the window

[lilac sequoia]

Ok but it IS fun hitting rabbits with my car, and then getting out to sprint at and beat baby rabbits to death

[vague trench]

this is why groin scratches exist lol

[forest shore]

While you're dragging them stand next to an open window and hold e

The ones I seen were in Cortman Medical.

[opaque schooner]

lol okay 💀

[lilac sequoia]

In like a hospital?

[pallid hinge]

Cortman Medical has meat hooks? That is wild

gotta hook the sick people, keep em from wandering off

[vague trench]

lol

[opaque schooner]

Anyone notice the lab under the muldraugh police station?

[vague trench]

maybe they were suppplying the research lab to try and make spiffo sekrit sauce with live people that turned to zombers and they then broke out and now knox virus

[rich cove]

lol just found a frog inside a kid's bedroom cabinet

[forest shore]

There's two buildings at Cortman Medical now - the actual clinic and the house. The hooks are in the house section - along with 2 chest freezers. I think Cortman is a cannibal.

[vague trench]

rofl

[outer rock]

Are shotguns lack of damage to multiple targets bug or a design choice?

[finite tangle]

Probably a bug I believe their multi hit is off rn @outer rock

[glad pawn]

my b42 character

[pallid hinge]

😍

[chrome fable]

are those clothes vanilla? that's sick

[edgy kiln]

its a complete nightmare to manage since it pretty much doubles the amount of clothing items there are in the game

[short briar]

Hey its John Spongie, thanks for the mods keep up the good work 🫡

[glad pawn]

they are

[finite tangle]

Would be cool if open jackets were a thing but I agree with spongie doubles the work unless they want to try ask the mod creator to use their work for free ig?

[forest shore]

I now have a goal.

[chrome fable]

can't wait to finally be able to play b42

[forest shore]

Definitely going to get myself a punk outfit

[short briar]

What are the boots? I just find the looking ass work shoes

[glad pawn]

'

[finite tangle]

Is that real, Looks absolutely phenomenal. Would be a great loading screen or something along those lines

[glad pawn]

Yes

[finite tangle]

Really captures that southern newspaper feeling if that makes sense. Great update

[lilac sequoia]

It is just beautiful seeing HERDS of wild rabbits

[forest shore]

..I keep running them over by accident. Those and rats.

[pallid hinge]

I have yet to see a single rat or mouse

found pigs, sheep, deer, turkey, chickens

[vague trench]

same lol , thought i ran over a zomber a few times and i was like "oh" naturres speedbumps

deer almost caused me to crash into a tree lol

[forest shore]

Has anyone hit a deer yet? I wonder how badly it'll fuck your car up

[pallid hinge]

I nearly hit a heard of them - swerved off and then nearly hit a tree

[signal nymph]

i drove over a few rabits yesterday lol poor critters

[heady field]

this gives off bullworth vibe lol

[pallid hinge]

So looks like you still get XP from disassembling watches?

I just tested

[hearty pond]

whatever mapper came up with the I-beams in 1x1 rooms to prevent zombie spawning, thats a nice idea

[dawn elm]

I heard that uninstalling lights , car battery and radio no longer counted for mechnanic xp skill

[heady field]

got no option to slice this, anyone else able to do it?

[dawn elm]

that is weird

you got a knife and cant slice bread.

[heady field]

or is there an item specifically to cut things lol

[dawn elm]

could it be a mod conflict?

[heady field]

I also ate the whole pizza yesterday without cutting it xD

[pallid hinge]

same 😄

[heady field]

I tried vanilla yesterday, no option for cutting anything

[dawn elm]

eating a whole pizza is a good way to gain some weight.

[pallid hinge]

Also yesterday in game I ate two steaks and a pizza and my Weight shevron is still pointing down

[hearty pond]

you need a table!

[heady field]

I did a fresh start w/ mod today irl, still the same issue

[dawn elm]

usually the chevron goes up when I eat food over 1K in calories

[heady field]

bruh fr?

[vague trench]

good lol

[velvet egret]

I believe they only removed carpentry XP gain from dismantling. Electrical XP from dismantling remained

[pallid hinge]

good to know

[fleet loom]

Has anyone tried refilling propane torch? Iv tried but I can't seem to find a way to do it unless I need a hose or something to go along with propane canister

[hardy fox]

has anyone found cows near rosewood?

[hearty pond]

via crafting menu and a plain surface in the region (in this case the round table)

it did not screenshot what i inteded to screenshot, but just go find a table open the craftingmenu and search for bread

[dawn elm]

table or counter would work

[opaque schooner]

Have you tried putting a piece of ham between two loaves of bread?

[heady field]

oh man we got crafting menu for cutting bread

[opaque schooner]

W

[dawn elm]

no more crafting things on while walking lol

[chrome fable]

it would be so much better if they used renders like these for the loding screns, I don't even care if the art is ** or not those renders fit the game much more and look much more pleasant imo

[static heart]

Cmon 4 hours for 17.5

[hearty pond]

and if you click on the little exchange symbol on the knife you can see what items can be used in its place, just in case i would not attempt to use your stabby knife for slicing your bread

[heady field]

aight found it

[opaque schooner]

Try automating it

[static heart]

how ??

[opaque schooner]

What’s the process like for knapping?

[heady field]

maybe I should read more stuff on the crafting menu

[static heart]

Forage, get flint nodule, craft one sharp flint get 0.2xp

[velvet egret]

might wanna read the Knapping skill book

[hearty pond]

its effectively a better version of crafthelper (sorry crafthelper my beloved), its really neat

[static heart]

there is a knapping skill book ?

[hearty pond]

it also shows when you need a book

[opaque schooner]

Are they hard to find?

[static heart]

well, it's already hard to get stones, but to get this particular stone...

[heady field]

they should add compatibility for smaller screen

[opaque schooner]

You could automate knapping in python pretty easily but auto foraging is annoying to code

[hearty pond]

my mans got that ultra mini screen, christ lol

[wet timber]

[velvet egret]

there should be a slider on the bottom right if the tab can be moved

[heady field]

also I cant change resolution on the setting, its like I only has 1 option

[hearty pond]

yeah it cant be made smaller, its a bit stiff

[static heart]

well, how's the fuck should we supposed to read books in wilderness run lul

[visual trail]

you cand find stones by removing them

not just throughout the forage system

[static heart]

regular stone, not flint nodule i think @visual trail

[velvet egret]

oh mb. I thought you were on the regular map

[hearty pond]

there is a sandbox setting for you to manually adjust the xp gain multiplier per skill

that ranges from 1 to 1000x

[static heart]

i don't want to do that

[visual trail]

the flint is found with foraging

[static heart]

i think it's just unbalanced for now

[visual trail]

have you tried smashing large stones?

[static heart]

yes, i'm foragin for 4 hours, i just got 17.5xp/75

[cunning turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[hearty pond]

i mean, the game is still a zombie looter, if you want to do purpose stuff like wilderness only, you gotta play with the sandbox settings

[static heart]

i can't, i need a stone chisel but i need knaping lvl 2 for this @visual trail

[cunning turtle]

What about the animals

[visual trail]

I know

:))) wait till you find out more

[static heart]

well, they said you could eventually survive in full wilderness

[visual trail]

you will need a worksurface to smash the stone

[static heart]

and get everything you need

[subtle spade]

Has anyone found a way to fix the building menu glitch? I have 3 stones but cant build ze campfire

[visual trail]

happy log carrying 😛

[hearty pond]

as long as skill books exists, I'm pretty sure that aint gonna be doable without playing with the skill gain settings

[static heart]

ye but i can't smash the stone without the appropriate tools, and i can't craft the appropriate tool cause i need more xp in knapping, and i can't get more xp in knapping cause i can't smash stone

[visual trail]

crafting > survival I think

[subtle spade]

b42?

[hearty pond]

what about the animals?

[glad pawn]

[visual trail]

when you will smash stone you will need surface and you will need chopping block

[static heart]

well, the purpose of knapping is to give players in multiplayer server to not depend on looting and go in forest to get everything

[cunning turtle]

It doesn't feels like just a zombie looter

[visual trail]

hmmm

[heady field]

im making banana sandwich haha

[visual trail]

how is wilderness?

up until this point

[static heart]

impossible

[hearty pond]

there can be animals in your zombie looter

[static heart]

like you can't do anything except foraging for hours and hours and hours before getting your first tool

[hearty pond]

and i for one am glad its for once not animals that want to see me dead

[static heart]

basically the only thing i'm crafting for 4 hours now @visual trail

[chrome fable]

hopefully theyll drop the first bugfix patch soon

[visual trail]

omg

[static heart]

maybe there is a trait that increase knapping lvl

[visual trail]

yeah I like wilderness but more crafting needs to come in

[heady field]

the reorder hotbar mod somehow broken when I put a canteen on my belt

[visual trail]

what are your traits and ocup?

no foraging points from the start?

[static heart]

park ranger so i'm lvl 5 foraging

[visual trail]

yeah you should find a lot of stuff

have you noticed any clay deposits?

[static heart]

ye i got some clay with foraging

even if i get any primitive tools from knapping i won't be able to get the primitive furnace without cement since i don't have any bags to transport sand, i don't have any sand either

[visual trail]

well I kinda like that because it's hard, finding stuff, later crafting advanced gear should require a lot of middle work in between

[static heart]

i'm not even sure i can find iron deposit in this forest lul

[visual trail]

it's clay cement

in case you thought of the concrete cement like stuff

[static heart]

yep so you need sand + clay and water

[visual trail]

a bucket you can craft with carpentry

[static heart]

how you get the sand in the middle of a forrest, and how you get the bag to make it a sandbag

[visual trail]

good question

[static heart]

also the bucket in carpentry need nails lul @visual trail

[visual trail]

yeah I just saw that lmao

so wilderness for laters :))

[hidden horizon]

Can we play with out friends now?

[visual trail]

before you will start making nails with metalworking a new patch will drop surely

[visual trail]

no

[opaque schooner]

You can play without friends yes

[hidden horizon]

I don't have any friends anyway lol

[static heart]

before i even start to smash rocks

[whole tundra]

Usually sacks of old fruit, use the mbags.

[opaque schooner]

Go check out server recruitment man

[static heart]

i'm doing a wilderness run

[visual trail]

it's just him and the nature, no other loot options

[whole tundra]

What do you need sandbags for?

[static heart]

make cement for the first primitive furnace

even if i had bags, i don't have any sand in this forest

[turbid citrus]

THEY cooked so hard with this

dude im literally just chilling ina basement that contained a storage room a small bedroom with a TV

and all sorts of other things

[static heart]

imo the crafting is basically useless for now, i'ill just wait i guess

[turbid citrus]

how is that?

[static heart]

well the whole purpose of knapping is to survive in full wilderness run, but if i need nails or bags to make my first primitive furnace

or forage for 15 hours to get my first tool

i better do a wilderness run in real life, it would be easier

[bold prairie]

Does anyone know if there is a library in Irvington?

[slate sentinel]

Nails and bags are forageable if you didn’t know

[static heart]

in forest ?

[turbid citrus]

is it true that now in B42 if i want to exp carpentry then it wont give me any EXP from dissasembling?

[slate sentinel]

Anywhere but better chances in urban areas

I’ve found some nails in forest I believe

[pallid hinge]

correct

[turbid citrus]

so how am i supposued to EXP carpentry from level 0?

[static heart]

dude, plz, i can't even find enough stone through foraging to get my lvl 1 in knapping and you are talking about finding nails in forest

i already had a run lvl 10 foraging without any nails in urban

i won't spend 1 year foraging to get a primitive furnance

[slate sentinel]

Maybe they changed the loot pool but even stones shouldn’t be that difficult to find in a forest

[pallid hinge]

grind via crafting things, there is stuff that requires no skill

[static heart]

there are 3 types of stones, i need to find 30 flint nodule to get my first level in knapping

knowing that i get more branch than stone

[turbid citrus]

o so now the only way to exp is thru crafting things, thats convinient i guess

[pallid hinge]

yup yup

[static heart]

also it won't work since the anvil crafting is giving me error so i would just waste my ressource

[visual trail]

you can enable XP for dismantling in sandbox settings

sorry not you

[static heart]

well looks like you can't even get iron in wilderness anyway

[pallid hinge]

😉

[static heart]

the only things we are able to craft into iron, how can i find these in forest

[visual trail]

can be enabled in sandbox

[static heart]

oh well nvm there are also small chunks of iron

[visual trail]

you need to wait for wilderness runs

more crafting should come before trying it out

I was also hyped and that's the first thing I wanted but seeing the crafting pushed back

[radiant zinc]

you can take stones from textures now, just like in Obvious collecting

[visual trail]

it's more like a taste of what's to come

[static heart]

you can't get xp from stone for knapping, you need flint nodule

[radiant zinc]

wish you luck then

[visual trail]

I dare you to level up mansonry

[static heart]

uh, the procedural part of the map is not in this unstable release

there is still the black border

[radiant zinc]

Well i think then we should wait for essential crafting mod to be ported or smth like that

[visual trail]

you sure they're not chunks that haven't loaded up ?

I have seen some black borders but I assumed they were just chunks that didn't load

[static heart]

yes

[visual trail]

well then that's for laters as well

probably with the random wilderness map

[hallow sail]

hows everyone doing keeping their calories up? i feel like food is scarce as hell

[pallid hinge]

food quantity is fine, atleast for me (used to playing on very low loot runs) -but the caloric burn is real quick it seems

[visual trail]

trapping hunting foraging

[hallow sail]

im finding like a couple consumables a house

[visual trail]

waiting on crops and animals now

[hallow sail]

and its gonna get cut in half when power cuts out. i don't want to get underweight

alcohol isn't really free calories anymore

[sleek hinge]

the calories burn its actually very fast, i agree with that

[hallow sail]

a damn ice cream sandwich is 140 calories

must be vegan sandwiches

[visual trail]

@pallid hinge Bandits just arrived for b42

[civic drum]

One of the buildings in Coalfield has an alarm. That's not historically accurate.

[dusk turret]

no idea popping pills could bring zomboids

[eternal idol]

oof my first launch of unstable froze on before menu came up

phew im in

omg its beautiful 🥲

[vague trench]

wheres the toys r u building

[ember elbow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2974760428 build 42 now playable. truly don't know why there's the arbitrary 75 tile distance requirement on trapping

[versed cave]

Is there a high population?

[blazing coral]

more than you'd expect for an abandoned place in the middle of the forest. act accordingly

[static heart]

ok for your information guys, there is a trait giving 1 knapping lvl

[versed cave]

Isn’t that the historic coal fields

[pallid hinge]

HUGE! Do they use the animal states instead of zombie states?

[versed cave]

UGH

at least have child zombies, one hit city

[versed cave]

I honestly am going to turn down detection radius

I feel like I take a step and then 50 boids show up hungry for my toes

Petition to add child boids

Weaker but still a danger when you go to an orphanage

[blazing coral]

best I can do is junkie zombies and the drugs are still kicking

https://tenor.com/view/tuco-salamanca-raymond-cruz-woohhoo-yes-yey-gif-17026577

[versed cave]

Crackhead Zomboids would be… interesting

[ornate parcel]

Does he mean for vanilla or the mod that adds NPCs?

[glad pawn]

People finding out conspicuous actually does something now is so funny

[ornate parcel]

What does it do now guh

[versed cave]

I was using inconspicuous 😭

[chrome fable]

idk killing zombie children wouldn't bring me any joy personally

[versed cave]

Toggleable setting

[vague trench]

they have already said no , mod creators will have to do it

[chrome fable]

yeah its on the nono list iirc

[vague trench]

yeahhhhhh lol

[blazing coral]

yea, if they couldn't do animal zombies, child zombies won't happen either

[glad pawn]

nono because of esrb

also because the devs just dont wanna do it

[fallow pilot]

Can someone please explain how do I get rid of the "at breaking point" moodle? im not a smoker.

[civic drum]

They say they don't want to do it, but they also said they don't want to do the sexy mods either, and yet, look at the new moodles.

[vague trench]

read books , magazines, eat candy n stuff

[blazing coral]

just watching it in ||28 days later|| didn't feel good either

[blazing coral]

books seem to do the trick best

[fallow pilot]

thanks!

[cunning turtle]

😡

[forest shore]

Devs said waaaay at the beginning they won't and likely will never include children because of the possible controversy that would arise. Not to mention it's not super great feeling to wack a child in the face, zombie or not. (that said if you wanted to go through and model and code children zombies go for it I guess?)

[pallid hinge]

The mod

[hearty pond]

i am sad, I'm just fooling around with porting a mod over until its done by the modder himself and I found a pickaxe in a flatbed truck right outside my spawn

[pallid hinge]

The nono list appears to be gone - I was looking for it the other day

[forest shore]

I doubt the modder has figured out how to use animal states yet, so likely a port at the moment

[forest shore]

..Flatbed truck? Like vanilla? Screenshot? Please?

[versed cave]

Wow Zomboid players officially have developed morals 💀 fair enough

[pallid hinge]

Yea I imagine that is the case

[hearty pond]

wait, thats not a flat bed thats a pickup my bad

[forest shore]

No worries! lol. I was imagining a pickup with a flatbed on the back, they're not uncommon irl in Kentucky so I had hoped for a minute. it's ok :p

[forest shore]

That said, I have a feeling they're digging in the code already to see if they can do just that lmao

[pallid hinge]

Haha more than likely!

[hearty pond]

also, did a lil test with that hatchet: cutting down one tree gives 22 muscle strain with 0 axe level, and just a lil over 6 when at 10 axe level, so weapon level does impact how "comfortable" you are with said weapon and how badly it builds up muscle strain

[velvet egret]

what strength level?

[slim merlin]

Dear Indie Stone. Please make the town chooser map an irl poster.
I will pay money.
Sincerely,
Your number one shill
Toasty

[civic drum]

You know what, add my plus one to this.

[forest shore]

I would too to be honest. I love the map, it reminds me of old school atlas maps.

..To be fair I would buy literally any official merch...

[rich cove]

Would be nice if we could have an option of, instead having the map ingame we'd use this spiffo map to navigate around, not even knowing where you are and stuff, just fully map navigation

this map is way too good to only be used once when selecting the world

[forest shore]

That would be really cool, and is honestly the map option I would go with personally.

[hearty pond]

strength 5

[velvet egret]

neat. Thanks!

[hearty pond]

with strength 10 it goes barely above 1.5

so it scales based on weapon level and strength level!

[heavy crown]

Oh so strength does have an impact (and it's seemingly VERY noticeable for that effect)

[hearty pond]

fitness does not seem to have an effect

[forest shore]

Interesting.

[civic drum]

Anyone in the new areas have any luck finding axes? I've found everything else minus the sledgehammer.

[vague trench]

i found sledge in brandenburger once before dying

[hearty pond]

i got debug open, should i go check somewhere specific if its in the table?

[mild axle]

I wonder if theyll have children npc

And they just dont die

[civic drum]

If they don't, modders will make it real. The framework technically already exists in game with animal pregnancy and children.

[velvet egret]

what about exercise (push-up, burpee, etc..) regularity?

[mild axle]

They should add stretching to reduce strain

[sleek hinge]

YES, i was thinking about that

[pallid hinge]

I can't see the map becoming official merch cause, I have a feeling any map like that would get outdated pretty quick once new content drops, at least until 1.0 or something

[blazing finch]

Oh no

[pallid hinge]

As much as I love that map

[glacial haven]

There's a basement at the echo creek gas station, right? I can't find it

[pallid hinge]

It's around back

[civic drum]

Lovers Lab modders: oh yes

[cunning turtle]

oh yes

[pallid hinge]

Near the stairs to go up

[blazing finch]

The horrors

[cunning turtle]

Lmao

[civic drum]

You mispelled that, it starts with a "wh"

[pallid hinge]

🤣 ahhh the stuff of nightmares

[glacial haven]

got it, ty

[pallid hinge]

❤️

[velvet egret]

that Echo Creek gas station and diner is a good base, especially with the large basement

[pallid hinge]

It is great! It is where I am currently basing

[hearty pond]

gonna take a bit to get my pushup regularity up

[dry scaffold]

Where can I find the new moodles in the files?

[azure bluff]

That whole little area genuinely gave me everything I need to get established and then some, default Apoc settings.

Tons of mechanics stuff in the garage, food in the diner/convenience store, habitable living area, and tons of metal working and carpentry stuff in the basement. Absolutely cracked base location.

[vague trench]

who PUT SPIFFO INTHE trash lmao

[azure bluff]

Media/ui/, it's one of the folders in there

[velvet egret]

there’s a bug to get max regularity for exercises quickly: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73055-4200-rev25057-simultaneous-exercise-and-rest-actions/#comment-407195

[azure bluff]

Also, did I just imagine it or weren't we supposed to be able to throw out corpses through windows? Or is that coming in a later update?

[pallid hinge]

Probably the same person that put the nacho cheese in the trash 😱

[cunning turtle]

What a disrespectful

[velvet egret]

I read somewhere that you need to hold E next to the window while dragging the corpse

[vague trench]

hahahha

[azure bluff]

You best not be playing with me

It needs to be the highest level of the house too yeah?

[velvet egret]

not sure. Haven’t tested it myself, but I imagine it could be done on any floor

[pallid hinge]

I saw someone died while trying to drop a corpse out a window on Reddit lol

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-off-neo-keanu-reeves-trinity-carrie-anne-moss-gif-23023624

jumping with the corpse I chucked out

[slim merlin]

I keep seeing advertisements for some mobile game that’s tells you you’re a survivor trapped in a skyscraper and it makes me wish that were a challenge in B42

[hearty pond]

did that, but seems like there's a period where you continue to gain muscle strain long-term after exercising too much

[velvet egret]

somebody made a mod for that recently

[hearty pond]

from the limited testing i did it doesnt seem to have any benefit, except leveling your strength

muscle strain gain was still the same as with 10 axe/10 strength for felling a tree

[dawn elm]

living in a town feels more fun and not flooding the streets with zombies to the point of living out in the farmlands. 🙂

[cunning turtle]

With animals?

[velvet egret]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387076289

[cunning turtle]

People ain't no sleeping

[amber jasper]

did the game auto update or am I geeked

[velvet egret]

yeah lol that mod author has submitted seven B42 mods already lol

[hearty pond]

anybody took a more detailed peek at the military base so far?

[velvet egret]

saw a discussion about it earlier: https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1318769570731003936

[pallid hinge]

I was talking to someone last night and they said they have 30 in game days played already

and I thought I was bad for having 14

[civic drum]

Does anyone have a high def picture of the starting map?

[pallid hinge]

yes DMing

ahhh I lack nitro so I can't send it lol

[civic drum]

Too big?

[pallid hinge]

ye

[civic drum]

Where'd you get it then?

[pallid hinge]

holy crap it is 174MB

ProjectZomboid\media\textures

it's called worldmap.png

[cunning turtle]

Omg

[cunning turtle]

Dayumm

[civic drum]

Not finding it in there.

[rich cove]

WAIT NO WAY
NOW IF YOU HAVE A PENCIL YOU DON'T NEED AN ERASER SINCE IT ALREADY HAS A LITTLE ERASER AT THE OTHER END OF THE PENCIL
this is so cool love it

[velvet egret]

lmao I found this while going through the textures

[forest shore]

Well I discovered something. I dug into why the whetstone recipe doesn't work. Turns out any recipe that requires 2 of the same item just won't work.

[pallid hinge]

my bad, it is ProjectZomboid\media\maps\Muldraugh, KY

[velvet egret]

found it

[hallow sail]

do plants take longer or shorter to grow now compared to build 41

[lethal wolf]

far, far longer

[hallow sail]

fuck

[thorn pagoda]

Longer.

[lethal wolf]

plan your harvests early, and if you got growing seasons toggled on (sandbox settings or by default for other modes), can't abuse the winter farming

[velvet egret]

realistic farming growth time is the default setting now

[hallow sail]

with the same yield as b41?

[thorn pagoda]

Like realistically longer, as in corn grows in 2-3 months now like in irl

[hallow sail]

they tryna starve me?

[lethal wolf]

you can domesticate animals for big food

[thorn pagoda]

And all plants have actual growing seasons

[velvet egret]

that’s why they provided us with more mice and rats in the meantime

eat a Rat King

[heavy crown]

You can't be a cabbage patch kid anymore for free survival

[forest shore]

Also search the countryside - all those fields may or may not have crops now.

[hallow sail]

good idea. need to find a how to generator asap

[visual orbit]

do ripping up clothes not grant you tailoring exp now

[hallow sail]

also has anyone bothered to check a library/bookstore yet? i found one useful book in the whole damn thing

[topaz aspen]

@formal mango thank you guys some much for youre hard work !!! i am waiting for 2 years for this update !! youre work is really really great one of the best Developers on the earth !! ❤️

[forest shore]

Pretty sure it never did - I think that was a mod?

[velvet egret]

idt it ever did(?) Gotta apply thread to holes or patches to clothing for tailoring XP gain

[heavy crown]

Gotta get that thread, then commit patch/unpatch repeatedly

[thorn pagoda]

Correct. Dismantling stuff now also by default does not grant xp

[velvet egret]

only for carpentry atm^

[thorn pagoda]

But there's sandbox settings to adjust that if desired

[hallow sail]

i dismantled a computer and got electrical

[heavy crown]

Oh thank god it doesn't affect electrical, that was one where I'm like "wait how DO you get started then?"

[hallow sail]

the requirements for hotwiring is different now

[forest shore]

On the bright side we can collect thread from rags now.

[sly pivot]

I wonder what topic I will bring up today? I wonder what it was yesterday? What will it be tomorrow?

[hallow sail]

wait or maybe its not

was it 2 electrical, 1 mechanical before or vise versa?

[forest shore]

2 mechanical 1 electrical

[velvet egret]

it’s has and still is 2 Electrical and 1 Mechanics iirc I remembered incorrectly. It should say when bringing up the radial menu

[hallow sail]

oh then i'm an idiot, nevermind 😭

[thorn pagoda]

That may be the exception. I know dismantling furniture didn't grant me carpentry xp, same as ripping clothing. Haven't tried mechanics yet but I'm guessing that farming will be different as well

[sly pivot]

WHO SAID TAA????????

[hallow sail]

i think i watched a carzone vhs and got two levels from it and chopped it up to it being backwards

[heavy crown]

Extended amount of commit watch before a brief jaunt of commit car torture before you can hotwire

[forest shore]

Dismantling furniture for electrical still applies

[sly pivot]

btw is it just me or is dismantling doors broken

Had to smack my way through one today

[hallow sail]

guys i think i'm just gonna build a hut in the woods

i'm tired of the new onslaughts of zombies in the big towns

[errant glen]

the only viable option is to haul ass down 32 flights of stairs

[velvet egret]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-peter-griffin-family-guy-fall-cartoon-gif-15790726

[hallow sail]

is the new bodybuilding method hauling corpses

[cunning turtle]

Bruh

[civic drum]

So, earlier today, someone was talking about gas seeming to go quicker, and I think it may depend on engine quality. I think higher quality engines use gas more slowly.

[vague trench]

has anyopne tried it yet lol?

curious how they deal with hauling stuff

[civic drum]

A Youtuber did, sorry, but can't remember the channel.

[vague trench]

ah no worries lol, wondered if anyone from here has

[magic tree]

steam deck support when??

[errant glen]

haul ass down 32 flights of stairs, thats all you can do

otherwise you get ripped into bits if you stop for even a second

[vague trench]

yah i dont have the patience for that rofl

[errant glen]

yeah the mall challenge was more fun

[hallow sail]

am i the only one that can't find any skill books?

[errant glen]

you'll find them eventually

[vague trench]

i found some in a survivior house

sometimes the schools

[hallow sail]

the brandenburg book store disappointed me so bad

[civic drum]

Them seem to be more common in areas that relate to the taught skills. Found firearms books at a police btw.

[hallow sail]

is it just new aiming and reload books? i was wondering if there are like long blunt or axe books, too. i found a level 5 reloading book

[civic drum]

There are books for long blunt at the least, I have a Long Blunt 3.

[hallow sail]

perfect!

caught some zombies in a devil's tango

[vague trench]

yeah i have been finding skill books not really in the usual places like bookstores n stuff , just found one in a warehouse lol

[velvet egret]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Sdqo4DPxee0?si=mlvJMCwhmv2dYtkX

only one or two videos so far

[vague trench]

noice thnx!

[hallow sail]

interesting. i'll keep driving around. its hard when it seems like most valuable poi's around me are through a wall of infected

[vague trench]

yah , im in riverside right now trying to make my way out of here and i stopped that warehouse, i like that i found a book here thats cool

[mild axle]

Stretching would balance muscle strain more preparing you more for it

[hallow sail]

i practically walked from ekron to brandenburg

[mild axle]

That could also go for exercises too you get tired less quickly

[vague trench]

ekron i havent really spent much time in always was forced to run away lol

[jaunty gyro]

Recipes that need a table / surface no longer appear in right click menus, you have to open the crafting menu

[hallow sail]

yeah i almost died like three times from exhaustion and starvation

[vague trench]

lol

[hallow sail]

i found some damn wildberries that saved my life LMAO

[vague trench]

love how pz throws you in situations like that lol

and you somehow just manage to live

[hallow sail]

yeah. and after passing out on the side of the road in pitch darkness

never felt more alive...

[autumn pier]

You need a hose to siphon gas from cars now

[vague trench]

lmao yeah i got stuck on some road with no map in dark and i was like what do i do now?? had to sleep in some field cause i didnt want to get night snacked

[dim venture]

woah the radio gives a whole nuke alarm with air activity detected

[hallow sail]

this is one of my first times playing singlerplayer too so the whole sleeping thing is new to me

[autumn pier]

I lucked out and found a military backpack from a small army group in the farmer’s market

[hallow sail]

crazy. im on like day 20 with a duffel

[autumn pier]

There was also 8 corpses in a single bathroom too…but 3 sprung back to “life”

[autumn pier]

I’m on my 4th day lol

[hallow sail]

diabolical

[vague trench]

thats a nice find

[slim merlin]

👀

[hallow sail]

i want a mod where you can shoot doorknobs

[autumn pier]

Yeah I’ve getting lucky tbh, already found several good weapons like the crowbar but I’m forced to leave them behind cause of low storage, not anymore though

Also got many different seeds with me, from barley and radishes, to wheat and brocoli

[hearty pond]

wonder if winter fruits/crops are possible

[autumn pier]

My only real concern besides sprinters is getting my weight up, my character is in decline

[glad pawn]

2 weeks in

[hearty pond]

because technically there's some crops that can survive the winter an sprout in mid summer to early autumn

[hallow sail]

fucking monster. i got only like 500 sumn!

[vague trench]

let me check i have some seeds

[autumn pier]

Oh btw, I have muscle strain enabled

[hallow sail]

to be fair most of my time was walking on a barren road

[vague trench]

err wait its night time lol and im walking on a road please hold lol

[hearty pond]

[glad pawn]

Clearing out muld will do that

[hallow sail]

i see that crowbar.... i miss my metal baseball bat

[hearty pond]

that was for the second line, there is a breed(is that what you call plant subspecies?) of winter wheat that is planted in late autumn that i know of

[hallow sail]

also bro.. no dismantling for carpentry exp? what is this??

[autumn pier]

Found a generator, nice, but can’t do much with it with my current situation

I might not even need electricity if my plan works as I have it in my mind

[hearty pond]

built a house for xp!

on a more serious note, i wouldnt be surprised if there at some point is a mod that changes that back to how it used to be, just give people some time

[hallow sail]

you tryna find an antique oven?

[austere shoal]

Does anyone know when the multiplayer update will be released?

[hallow sail]

thats the plan. if i can find an axe

[hearty pond]

2025

[glad pawn]

generators seem a LOT more common now or is that just me, theyre on the default rarity

[velvet egret]

no one knows

[hallow sail]

ive definitely found more than usual

[autumn pier]

That would be nice, but perhaps I could…build my own? If crafting expansion allows it

[austere shoal]

ok thank you

[glad pawn]

there's like 3 right next to muld pd

[hearty pond]

key are fucking everywhere

[hallow sail]

i found a few in the brandenburg storage units

[hearty pond]

my key hoarding instincts make me pick all of them up and i need a way bigger keyring. like, 20x the size

[hallow sail]

they were very disappointing, if i do say so myself. the arm soreness you get from using a sledgehammer is BRUTALLLL

[autumn pier]

HOUSE ALARM ACTIVATED

[hearty pond]

in the middle of town?

[autumn pier]

No, some random army quarters in the countryside

[vague trench]

lol wat

[autumn pier]

But still, sprinters are scary

[hearty pond]

Aw, they are fun in the middle of town

had half of riverside pretty much at the gigamart parking place because a car alarm triggered and a zombie then decided to break into one of the shops, triggering a house alarm

[autumn pier]

Ok, the place was isolated enough that no zeds showed up…phew!

Also how the hell do I make mac and cheese?

[hallow sail]

god knows

[pastel herald]

Why is my crafting menu is so god damn huge

How do you scale it down

[velvet egret]

lol how are you finding this stuff?

[autumn pier]

No kidding

[vague trench]

lol it was some zomber on the road outside riverside warehouse

[velvet egret]

there’s a slider at the bottom right

[pastel herald]

Ah i see it now, thank you

[glad pawn]

It would be so funny if lore wise the military spill was a red herring

[pastel herald]

Is prying door with a crowbar still not a thing in b42?

[velvet egret]

btw Baph said that finding Spiffo (collectibles) in the trash is super duper rare so you’re pretty lucky

[vague trench]

i have only seen spiffo like 2 times since playing 42 lol

im never restarting now!

[velvet egret]

idts

[autumn pier]

Ngl I think genuinely nobody knows how to make mac and cheese

[hallow sail]

Probably with a pot of water

[hearty pond]

i think cheese is also involved

[velvet egret]

or a microwaved bowl of water

[hearty pond]

thats criminal

[autumn pier]

There’s insect repellant…

[thick laurel]

Can you feed chickens maggot

[autumn pier]

Spotted a rabbit….

[hallow sail]

ran over a rabbit...

[autumn pier]

Stupid animal

Get in my belly…nevermind it ran away

[cunning turtle]

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-danny-devito-oh-my-god-i-get-it-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-1719969854406009304

[hallow sail]

guys how do u throw corpses through windows

[lunar summit]

Alt+f4

[autumn pier]

Hold E while carrying a corpse next to a window

Duality of man

[hallow sail]

thanks king

[lunar summit]

I swear it doesn't really work if you pick them up by their feet maybe it only works when you pick them up about the shoulders

[cedar nest]

and dont worry theyre not lying and you wont jump out window

[hallow sail]

my character rotated to its shoulders automatically

[hallow sail]

i did it. tis the truth

[lunar summit]

I think it depends on your position to the dead body

[autumn pier]

No, also works by their feet, but your character switches to the shoulder carry by default

[lunar summit]

Maybe it was just the house I was in it was not letting me do it despite holding e

I'm also going to have to get used to the new shooting mechanics I haven't tried out shotguns yet but pistols suck even worse at low level I feel

[hallow sail]

yeah the pistol is not impressing me, even as a starter police officer

[errant grove]

best you can get is mac and cheese soup atm i think

[autumn pier]

Also is it just me or is everyone getting stuffed from eating even a single grain of rice? All the foods automatically make you stuffed it seems, and the satisfied moodle disappears almost instantly

[lunar summit]

I'm pretty sure you also don't get that extra plus two strength boost anymore from eating a lot

[vague trench]

did bathtubs always have towels?

[lunar summit]

No I put that there

[hallow sail]

this is true, i was the towel

[lunar summit]

That's actually a napkin I was going to eat that bathtub

[errant grove]

There are a few different bathtub models im pretty sure

[vague trench]

lol damnit

[errant grove]

some have soap and stuff on the corner

[hearty pond]

yeah some of the base tiles got variants now

pretty sure i saw new ovens too

[spare field]

Has anyone figured out how to get saplings??

[lunar summit]

I loves eat ceramic

[lunar summit]

Small tree growing outside I'm pretty sure

[autumn pier]

Shoutout to the dumbass mag dumping an M16 in the metagame

[astral brook]

From me, I forage for them, found one like that

[spare field]

I have only found long sticks rarely, is this what you mean

[hearty pond]

whats the current ingame recipe for the precooked box?

[spare field]

Do you right click and it gives you a sapling or you have to chop it down?

[lunar summit]

I don't know how you obtain sapling in the inventory no

[autumn pier]

Haven’t seen it

[lunar summit]

I was just thinking of those small trees that you can cut with a knife rather than a axe

[spare field]

Was that a thing in 41? Or you tried this in 42. Someone said earlier that they cut down the bushes and it only gives branches and logs not saplings

[hearty pond]

one could probably change the recipe quite easily with a mod, to just make it use some milk, butter and water and be done with it lol

[spare field]

It doesn’t seem like anyone has been able to obtain a sapling

[lunar summit]

I think that was a 41 thing

Have you tried to pick it up like you pick up furniture?

[spare field]

I haven’t, will test tomorrow

[vague trench]

yay!! you can barricade the crusthouse windows

[carmine geyser]

is anybody having any problems with aiming in this version? I just tried it out and it feels like 90% of my shots aren't hitting

[cosmic yoke]

funny enough i feel like im aiming way better than before. not sure if ive ever hit something with a pistol prior to b42

[heady field]

yes its terrible

[carmine geyser]

I tried using it, all it did was kill like 2 zombies near me and I was veteran

[heady field]

I ended using a mod to revert the aiming to b41

[carmine geyser]

I ended up getting chased by like 50 zombies and then the game crashed when I tried firing into the crowd

[heady field]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387165490&searchtext=

imo combat nerfed really hard on this build, so I been sneaking around lol

[hearty pond]

okay you can only make mac and cheese soup i am shocked

[heady field]

for melee we got muscle strain xD

[carmine geyser]

they seemed to have made melee weapons stronger though

I was getting instant kills on zombies with a shovel when I had 9 strength

[heady field]

oh the damage is increased?

maybe u can 1shot zombie now with axeman+10str

[carmine geyser]

though the stanima thing is a massive problem, I can't do anything without it happening

[remote bear]

Doesn't this just remove the new crosshair and introduces the outline back... So there really isn't much changed persay with the actual new gunplay.

[carmine geyser]

like even with athletic I get muscle strain after walking past two houses and over a fence

[heady field]

yeah its just visual change
easier aim with the outline

waiting for that one mod to pair with this, it has crosshair and ammo count

[autumn pier]

Btw, you can grow your own tobacco if you didn’t know that already

[remote bear]

Yeah thought so lol, maybe somehow I can work up a mod that makes the crosshir reticle change depending on sight accuracy or aim outline.

[glacial cape]

Interesting, wonder if when yyou grind it out and start producing your own melee weapons with higher quality heads/handles/blades like they said would be athing in build 42 if that'll further boost their damage

[remote bear]

Alternative Crosshair?

[heady field]

yeah thats the name I think

pz feel more like shooting game when I use it

[glacial cape]

that's assuming quality is in this current state of b42 I've noticed there's building quality but I don;'t know if there's weapon quality yet

[autumn pier]

I’m eating entire fridges and I’m STILL losing weight, didn’t take any metabolism traits either

[glacial cape]

one of the devs said plumbing isn't in cause they're redoing that as well

[heady field]

maybe they adding pipes for crops

[carmine geyser]

I really just need to figure out how to adjust my usual playstyle of rushing a police station for a shotgun for this new version

[glacial cape]

Irrigation would be baller

[carmine geyser]

since I tried it and nearly died before crashing

[autumn pier]

Helicopter is here, crap…

[glacial cape]

Gl

[remote bear]

The new combat update working as intended I see.

[turbid gorge]

They made this mod vanilla weew (now if only they'd make the map mods vanilla and tidy up meister vanilla

[autumn pier]

I got food and water but I’m losing weight, or at least that is what the arrow is telling me

[carmine geyser]

now I need to figure out what is actually good now for traits as athletic seems to have barely done anything when actually getting into fights and veteran seems to not be as strong as before

[remote bear]

A couple of Modders are now devs and have implemented their QoL mods into the game

[glacial cape]

Yeah right it's really slowed down the pacing and stride of people, no more rushing every big important poi on the map. Now you've gotta take a slow tactical and methodical approach to everything

[hearty pond]

i think the nutrition system is now a tad more important than it was in b41

[glacial cape]

Risk vs reward type of stuff? Though it does feel a bit overturned guess that's what sandbox is for

[autumn pier]

Makes me which I got nutritionist ngl

[hearty pond]

if you can raid a supermarket, non-perishables in boxes should have their nutritional info printed on them, that you can see without the trait

[carmine geyser]

has anybody actually used shotguns yet to see if they are still good

[hearty pond]

what you want is something like rice, pasta and the likes

[autumn pier]

If I can raid a supermarket

[remote bear]

Yeah, I nearly died to four-five zombies in the game.

[hearty pond]

its just a matter of sheer will

[autumn pier]

Actually, I could

[glacial cape]

Some in game catalog or something to explain the nutritional values would be nice though, kinda like how we have the herbalist magazine

[autumn pier]

It’s just the zeds are gonna make it difficult

[hearty pond]

which town you in?

[lethal wolf]

I'm gonna sound annoying repeating this but if anyone finds a vanilla non-modded vehicle that has more trunk space than 140 units, take a picture for me pls

[glacial cape]

Trailers?

[heady field]

I think I saw one with 300 ish

[hearty pond]

time to spawn shit in and see

[lethal wolf]

I don't know, the little thing you drag behind your car has like 80 units

[heady field]

but no gas so pass lol

[autumn pier]

I’m in the houses with the fields to the right of rosewood

[remote bear]

Also, what new firearms are added into the game?

[glacial cape]

None

[carmine geyser]

so what is the loot like in echo creek?

[remote bear]

Huh, I thought I heard some rumours of new firearms being found.

[heady field]

they only added new melee weapons, some are op

[hearty pond]

i mean there's a gigamart right in the entrance at rosewood, but there's apparently also a new farmers market

[carmine geyser]

it seems like it could be a good spot to set up a base but I am worried about looting being a problem

[hallow sail]

which?

[remote bear]

Kinda scarce imo, I have found less canned goods and more just fresh produce and foods.

[autumn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/greenfield-grass-field-running-cow-skip-gif-3484835

[glacial cape]

as far as I know there's none, only seen new melee weapons but I also havent touched any gun location

[carmine geyser]

does it have any tool stores?

[heady field]

oh right beware of bulls lol

[slim merlin]

Don’t wear red

[vague trench]

lol wth is that

[remote bear]

I haven't explored that far, I only like cleared out the eastern portion of Echo

[slim merlin]

Bunny ears probably

[remote bear]

There are tool sheds

[heady field]

echo creek population is low but its far from anywhere

[glacial cape]

I need to get myself some burgers cows for my ranch

[vague trench]

lmao why are they over by the most random place

[autumn pier]

A tree just shook by itself, which means the damned heli is attracting zeds….

[autumn pier]

At this point, I’ll eat a whole darn cow if it gets me to stop losing weight

[glacial cape]

btw anyone elses car struggling REAL BAD to tow another vehicle? I got a car with 550 hp and its struggling hard

and is stuck at 30mph

[autumn pier]

Let’s answer the obvious first: sunday driver?

[turbid gorge]

new we living

the burgers go right to her thighs

[glacial cape]

nope, no driving traits although its making me want to take speed demon next run

speed demon maybe good for towing now?

[scenic gazelle]

that also happened to me, but I was towing a burnt car
so I thought it was normal behavior

[remote bear]

How do we have almost the same exact drip for our characters lol

That funky little baseball padding or whatever

[carmine geyser]

finally, a good house spawn to set up in

[lethal root]

opinions on how Unhappiness/Bordem/Thirst is portrayed on foods/items change?

personally, i liked seeing the actual value instead of a arbitrary and vague bar that i have no reference (at least with the number value, i can guesstimate)

[glacial cape]

Yeah I dunno what's up witht he bars

[carmine geyser]

oh my god there is a river right across from this house, this is an amazing spawn for long term survival

[autumn pier]

B42 kinda forced me to relearn the entire game ngl, this is my survivor so far

[glacial cape]

pacifist?

[remote bear]

Actually not a bad location for Echo. I'm not gonna spoil. But you have a lot of good potential stuff in the surrounding areas.

[bright glade]

wait, are the bars instead of numbers just like a debug thing?

[autumn pier]

Just slower weapon XP gains

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, these new stealth and combat mechanics changed my ways of playing aswell

[glacial cape]

Guessing lumberjack axe skill cancels it out then

[scenic gazelle]

I also noticed that losing weight is extremely fast

[autumn pier]

If it does, then it’s just for axes only

[remote bear]

The new Stealth is on god, so good, it actually feels like I'm able to sneak more efficiently.

[glacial cape]

yeah I feel I'm hungry all the dang time due to hearty appetite and drop weight quicker despite taking none of the metabolism traits

[turbid gorge]

if only it was that fast irl

[autumn pier]

Water is easy* to come by, food to a certain extent

[hearty pond]

that van has 160, couldnt find anything else

[turbid gorge]

calories go down waaaay too fast... it takes like... running a football field multiple times to burn 100 calories irl

[autumn pier]

But I can’t seem to gain weight

[scenic gazelle]

YES!
i managed to go past a horde by sneaking behind car wrecks and fences

[scenic gazelle]

yeah lol

[turbid gorge]

stealth used to be insanely useless because the game is not a super urban game with lots of cover and you could barely hide behind everything so zombies see you halfway across the suburb

[scenic gazelle]

I couldn't figure out the effects of disconfort, got any idea?
Maybe that influences in weight loss

[glacial cape]

I haven't tried stealthing but zombies detection seems way less overtuned compared to b41

[autumn pier]

And yeah, being stuffed no longer gives +2 carrying capacity

[glacial cape]

like those mf's are deaf now and less self aware even without sneaking about

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-bladerunner-ryan-gosling-cat-look-up-gif-12176335285153886082

[autumn pier]

The OPTIMAL reading position

[glacial cape]

Probably for the better tbh for the combat being way more punishing

[autumn pier]

She’s done it again

[scenic gazelle]

Yeah, I also noticed that
but you can't rely much on that, gotta use cover now, which is pretty cool
another big surprise for me is the muscle strain mechanic, didn't expect such thing and it's a welcome feature imo
now you gotta pick your fights carefuly, instead of just swinging till you run out of weapons/breath

[glacial cape]

POV: Illiterate

[heady field]

just dont smoke on bed, it kills

[glacial cape]

Yeah, its even easier to lose sight of them when you gain distance or duck behind buildings/fences etc, although I do feel like the muscle strain is overtuned and the default should be tweaked but I agree its a welcome change I love the concept and mechanic of it

[glacial cape]

How do you know that? 💀

[heady field]

[vague trench]

wat lol

[autumn pier]

Holy heck man, 76 pounds

I’m on the verge of becoming underweight

Might have to raid the market but the HEAT MAP man

But I have to, there’s just no other choice I got left

[glacial cape]

What town u in?, you could go for a gas station freezer box its probably safer?

[autumn pier]

Rosewood rural

[opaque schooner]

The heat map could use a bit of tweaking tbh

[scenic gazelle]

I went after icecream, it's really good for the mood + calories

[glacial cape]

^

[autumn pier]

Where are they ngl…

[scenic gazelle]

i also noticed you can scoop icecream now

[heady field]

try the houses, they might got some food

[autumn pier]

I’ve raided them and eaten their fridges, 7 of them by now, still losing

[scenic gazelle]

funnily enough I found the icecream in rosewood's gas station

[heady field]

and maybe u found barricaded one if u lucky

[scenic gazelle]

there are two freezers right outside the convenience store

[heady field]

oh yea I also found one on the freezer yesterday when playing

it used to be always empty when I checked

[hearty pond]

freezers, mainly there's also new chest-type freezers in basements and some sheds

they sometimes also contain meat

[glacial cape]

Just tried a firearm for the first time looks like you get muscle strain as well

[lethal wolf]

So basically no BIG trunk vehicles in the game yet

[hearty pond]

doesnt seem like it, the small trailer (with or without plane) only has 100 at max, and the livestock trailers can only be used to kidnap transport animals

[lethal wolf]

Can't even do ONE trip to the big city and get back to deep woods to your hidden farm

[hearty pond]

Motorious zone is update already, tho https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2791656602

[lethal wolf]

Echo Creek-Louisville looting trip is gonna suck without mods 😄

[hearty pond]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3217685049&searchtext=

this one also exists and has semi-trucks, I'd imagine you could stuff a lot in the back of a semi

[spring fiber]

I just wish i was able to play

Any news regarding the black screen on amd users?

[glacial cape]

also did a quick test on towing vehicles with speed demon, seems like speed demon has no substansial impact on it you get the same speed as if you were towing without any driving traits

and horse power doesn't seem to make any difference

[lethal wolf]

yep, devs for sure have a hard time balancing between what is realistic and what is too good, but what can I say, I like my unsorted loot piles

if my game doesnt lag, the pile aint big enough

[remote bear]

Anyone elss love how Vanilla B42 feels just like a modded game?

[heady field]

did tsarlib get b42 update yet

[hearty pond]

"yet" it hasnt been 3 days, leave the modders some time

[heady field]

xD

[glacial cape]

It really does lol still sucks having to check my weapon condition but that's only a minor thing

[heady field]

iirc u gonna need that lib for the towing stuff

[hearty pond]

no, towing is now in vanilla

[remote bear]

Still missing Common Sense myself, I don't dare to add big mods into my games until more updates

[hearty pond]

pssst, I'm dealing the good stuff: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2852309899&searchtext=

[glacial cape]

Don't tempt me XD, I'm gonna wait till b42 is a bit more stable first or till mp gets added :P

[neat saffron]

i find it not that useful anymore since it shows total condition which is not- good.

Handle and Head conditions are afterall completely seperate

[remote bear]

Item Condition is slightly bugged this new update.

[remote bear]

Good thing Item Condition can be removed mid save

[glacial cape]

to whoever was asking about if more firearms had been added, firearms b41 has been updated to b42 if you wanna add that https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2256623447&searchtext=Firearms+b42

[scenic gazelle]

do you happen to know if inventory tetris got updated too?

[glacial cape]

doesn't look like it

Just give the modders some time I'm sure within the next couple of days the original author or someone else will pick it up

[hearty pond]

i retract that, while the trailer does seem to have 840 cargo space, it still seems a tad bugged, no texture to start, lol

[hallow sail]

anyone had any luck with a generator magazine?

i feel like im going insane with this game's lack of loot

[vague trench]

the few i have found i have found uparound logging warehouse near muldrag

[remote bear]

still wary of any red errors lol.

I'm besides a VFE user myself. Firearms models are a little too slim.

[hallow sail]

weird. i found a massive warehouse with only hacksaw blades and handle types in its like hundred crates

[vague trench]

look in the worktrucks, not the buildings

[glacial cape]

@hallow sail you could always level to level 3 electrical :D

[hallow sail]

wait whut

[glacial cape]

yup at lvl electrical 3 you learn how to use generators

[hallow sail]

i mean....

[sly phoenix]

I thought u still needed the mag to operate

[hallow sail]

i'm already at 2... damn i got like 200 hours and didn't know that

[vague trench]

lol

[glacial cape]

Fair enough I find the gun mods to be too bloated especially brita's so I usually add firearms b41 despite never actually using the guns cause I'm a melee user :P

[sly phoenix]

Isnt only electricians that give u auto knowleged on lvl 3? (Plz correct me im not sure)

[glacial cape]

no electrican occupation gives you the generator knowledge

[sly phoenix]

Ohhhhhhh

[glacial cape]

but you could also level electrical to 3 from waht I've heard

[remote bear]

I mean with these new gunplay mechanics I might forgo using gun mods after sometime tbf

[glacial cape]

fair enough I myself personally have never been a fan of the firearms

too loud and lack of ammo were always present issues so I never bothered with them

or maybe its cause I'm not American :P I don't got that American spirit of firearms and freedom

[hallow sail]

wiki says can only use generators with electrician occupation and the how to generators

[glacial cape]

Idk if its true but I heard in build 42 you can grind to level 3 electrical for generator knowledge

[turbid gorge]

ill miss all the quality of life mods that wont wind up getting updated and all the cool vehicles that will be left behind

[hallow sail]

hmmm

[glacial cape]

if you're still insure hop into debug mode and give yourself 3 levels of electrical as a another occupation

[hallow sail]

not a bad idea

[glacial cape]

just to safe yourself the hassle of levelling electrical

[hallow sail]

will try that

[glacial cape]

Armored vehicles would fit so much into the scrap weapons and armor in build 42 :(

[turbid gorge]

ikr they even showed off concepts for up-armored vehicles a long time ago i really hope it does wind up coming to vanilla

[glacial cape]

on the bright side it'll get updated eventually, and think of the new opportunities for modding it won't be long till animal mods start popping up

Now you can get your shit kicked in by a boar

[turbid gorge]

i cant wait for people to use the framework for mutants and monsters and stuff like resident evil 2 enemies

lickers, tyrants, etc

[glacial cape]

Ngl a LFD2 tank in PZ would be terrifiying

If I ran into that in pz I think I'd scream

[turbid gorge]

esp if it can actually smash through walls and flip cars

[lethal wolf]

my god.

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/running-quick-fast-running-fast-sprint-gif-11390031044419433068

[vague trench]

lol i alread freak out with some of the dang meta noises and ambience

[glacial cape]

my own voice gets me a few times 💀

[vague trench]

lol

[pine verge]

going to assume MP will be out some point after new years?

[vague trench]

yah i jumped in my chair earlier when some chick screamed i was like wtf lol

[turbid gorge]

those screams have been in the game for 10 years or more

[vague trench]

im guessing once 42 goes on stable , not eta and i have no idea honestly with holidays n stuff might be a bit

[forest shore]

Anytime from new years to new years 2027

[pine verge]

possibly

[vague trench]

i would like more crafting stuff stabled first before mp

[round current]

Any time from now until the heat death of the universe

[pine verge]

I mean honestly no rush

[turbid gorge]

the next 6 months will be lots of bug fixes and additional features and animals

I want dogs and cats

[pine verge]

I want horses

[turbid gorge]

imagine all the dogs and cats locked in their cages at the louisville animal shelter

[remote bear]

I would say multiplayer within six months, without any delays.

[pine verge]

eh maybe

[glacial cape]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[turbid gorge]

you must go rescue them all

[remote bear]

dude stop 😭😭

[vague trench]

yah i think they need to add some of the basic crafting stuff first theyre working on , id rather wait for that n get guns tinkered with n things

[remote bear]

That is the most evil thought holy shit

[turbid gorge]

rush over there and save the animals

[glacial cape]

Have you seen LVs heatmap 💀

[pine verge]

horses with carriages would be good when gas becomes rare lol

[turbid gorge]

army of dogs tearing zombies apart lmao

[remote bear]

Actually a very good point tho, those poor animals

[glacial cape]

Idek if I can make it past the gates

[turbid gorge]

maybe some employeee ran around opening the cages and setting them loose

[remote bear]

What does the new heatmap look like again?

[vague trench]

i want a donkey or mule lol

[remote bear]

Yeah, Im sure in a zombie scenario, some sympathetic person will actually do it.

[glacial cape]

Not sure just heard build 42 LV was swarmed with zombies

[hallow sail]

@glacial cape you're right my fucking goat

[turbid gorge]

thing is zombies would absolutely attack animals realistically

[hallow sail]

depends on the kind of strand

[turbid gorge]

theres literally no possible reason they would ignore animals, meat is meat

how would the zombies even understand what a human is

if you dressed up in a gorilla suit and crawled around on all fours would you be fine?

[remote bear]

Not in my zombie world fantasy

A gorilla would absolutely fuck up zombies

[pine verge]

Thought that the zombies were only ament to infect things that are human

to spread the virus

[turbid gorge]

how do they know to infect things i thought they were just hungry

where is this 'intelligence' coming from at all

[pine verge]

depends on what virus took control

[turbid gorge]

rabid animals have no intelligence at all, if you put 2 rabid animals in a room with other normal ones chances are they'll fight eachother first as the loud and openly agitated other in the room

[pine verge]

could be sending signals to infect

[glad pawn]

!tap

[sacred bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1100348248960536576/image.png

[pine verge]

but wouldnt mind zombies to attack animals gives like a twd kinda vibe to it

[remote bear]

Zombies have been portrayed as mindless drones with little functioning intelligence for years. They have no notion of trying to infect anything.

[turbid gorge]

yeah there should be a zombie attacking animals option

[glad pawn]

then just turn the setting on lol

[vague trench]

crows that steal our corn crops

[glacial cape]

Just think of them as the 28 days later zombies except they're not sprinters

[pine verge]

I probs will lol

[glad pawn]

there is a option for that

[turbid gorge]

that doesnt make them actually attack them tho does it? it says it just makes their noise attract them

[glad pawn]

it does

[turbid gorge]

why is the description written like that

[pine verge]

see idk seems like ill be doing more work to keep animals safe haha

[remote bear]

Try a 28 days later settings for Zomboid 😈

I tried it iN B42, absolutely terrifying stuff.

[turbid gorge]

i think sprinter zombies should SCREAM not make normal zombie noises

scream and scream and scream as they chase you, sounding more like a crazy person

which is what 28 days zombies are (who knows what 28 years later is doing tho)

[remote bear]

They do scream at you in this build

[turbid gorge]

aside that sprinters should def be bundled with a 'living infected' sandbox option

as in they are still biologically alive humans who bleed to death and take injuries

those ones die if you shoot them in chest or cut them enough

so just getting a few good stabs in on a zombie then running is enough to make it slow down and collapse and die

[remote bear]

Isn't that what they are in 28 Days.

[turbid gorge]

yup

thats why i say lol

sprinting corpses that still require headshots is insanity

[glacial cape]

spiked walls time?

watch them trip into it

[turbid gorge]

well... the zombies starve to death... 28 days later.

thats why its called what it is lmao

if you can survive to them starving congradulations you won

[hallow sail]

until they adapt and become grass-eating zombies..

[turbid gorge]

tho they are def smarter than undead ones, they actually approach buildings and vehicles and spy inside the windows

they will legitimately intelligently search around, they also are seen to give up a chase when someone gets away in a car understanding they can't catch up

[glacial cape]

I guess yoou could make the sprinter zombies weaker if you want the 28 days experience

[turbid gorge]

probably like make them fragile or something

[remote bear]

Just dumb down their speed.

[turbid gorge]

speed should be a slider ngl, so we can have 'joggers'

[remote bear]

You can slow down their sprinter speed in game

[turbid gorge]

they added that finally?

[glacial cape]

Anyone know if adrenaline junkie is still athing?

[remote bear]

Press Advanced in Sandbox settings.

[turbid gorge]

what does this even mean?

[remote bear]

Wasn't that shit removed like Build 20????

[glacial cape]

I'll probably never play with sprinters just wondering

[turbid gorge]

no its been around the entire time

Adrenaline junkie + the phobia perks are op as shit lmao you are sonic the hedgehog esp with runner and athletic

[glacial cape]

the more armor you wear and any face coverings you start to feel discomfort by it as far as I heard, you start to get depressed because of the discomfort

[remote bear]

When you are starting a game press custom sandbox > Zombie settings and press advanced.

[turbid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-gif-21454125

how out of their way are they going to make basic gameplay annoying af