WhatZ Next

[unreal sentinel]

wdym i dont have any mods

[tawdry gull]

Devs gonna release a false update to make everyone think its out

[fallen phoenix]

compression is an art

[compact shadow]

you do, because theres no game update

[unreal sentinel]

restart steam bro

[compact shadow]

fairly sure it wouldnt even automatically download because its a beta branch

[tawdry gull]

nah, they will make it so you can only play B42

[compact shadow]

omg

[tawdry gull]

no way

[compact shadow]

the devs should add a beta branch called build 42 but not actually put anything in it

[ancient hazel]

Morning everyone! Only 2 more days to go!

[compact shadow]

what

[mint flax]

until?

[ancient hazel]

My purely guessed date for unstable

[tawdry gull]

Tuesday in australia

[mint flax]

ooooohhhh

[mint flax]

erm, its actually today!

[compact shadow]

i feel like this isnt the first guess

[mint flax]

sunday is a good day, the dawn of a new week

[ancient hazel]

monday would be last day for final touches, tuesday release, one week to fix major bugs

[pallid onyx]

Stop trolling

Lmao

[compact shadow]

i feel lik ethat was a fairly obvious joke

[old flint]

That’s what I was thinking

[pallid onyx]

PregnantMosquito is right

[ancient hazel]

as someone who has never been involved in game development, it makes sense to me

[old flint]

Between Monday and Wednesday in my mind is the most likely

[ancient hazel]

im sure it is in part wistful thinking, but still

[pallid onyx]

Let's pray

[old flint]

Seeing the discord blow up when it release will be a spectical

[compact shadow]

i dont think theyll get it out before christmas and its been confirmed it wont come out between the holidays, my guess is early january

[ancient hazel]

i imagine they would lock this thread then make an announcement one

[pallid onyx]

We don't lose the hope

[compact shadow]

early january will still be great

[old flint]

Pretty sure a dev gave a cryptic message that said sometime in December. Unless I misread

[pallid onyx]

Yesh

[mortal kernel]

from past actions, Wednesday was the release for b41 and a blog dropped on Thursday

[compact shadow]

that would narrow down the time to between now and december 23

[pallid onyx]

Next Wednesday then

[old flint]

Only thing is nasko said no more thursdoids until new year I think.

[ancient hazel]

I think at this point they would know if it wasnt coming out in dec and would have said something

[compact shadow]

fair point

[mortal kernel]

a blog should drop describing what's in it

[pallid onyx]

In B42 we trust

[ancient hazel]

hello The Darkness! I see your name around a bit

[old flint]

Yeah, and I’m thinking between Monday or Wednesday. It allows the players to play over Christmas until the devs come back before they start fixing bugs.

[mortal kernel]

or at the day of the launch or on patch day 1

[compact shadow]

i hope youre right

[old flint]

I’m just being hopeful

[mortal kernel]

Monday to Wednesday I agree

[compact shadow]

lets see if the devs agree

[mortal kernel]

they don't have to

[sudden falcon]

Issa chewsday innit?

[mortal kernel]

I'm agreeing with Mr Secret

[tawdry gull]

lets just release it now, there will be bugs anyway

[mortal kernel]

no

[compact shadow]

no

[mortal kernel]

let them finish their work

don't rush it

[ancient hazel]

you cant rush art

[tawdry gull]

you can

[pallid onyx]

Don't rush

[tawdry gull]

I just want to be able to play when it releases lol

[tawdry gull]

i was joking when i said release now, but i dont think its rushed if its a few days early

[mortal kernel]

you will

if you don't run it on a potato, you're good

[tawdry gull]

i think you misunderstood me lol

[ancient hazel]

Understanding tone is hard over text.

[tawdry gull]

i mean i want it to release while im able to play/at my computer, since ill be gone next week lol

[tawdry gull]

wasnt a tone thing either

[mortal kernel]

ahh

I see

[tawdry gull]

lol

[pallid onyx]

No cap

[mortal kernel]

well, bad time be away next week

😉

[pallid onyx]

[ancient hazel]

nitro boosters have inside info confirmed

[compact shadow]

isnt b42 supposed to have a bunch of optimizations anyway?

[pallid onyx]

I knew it.

[mortal kernel]

yes but those optimisation especially the lighting can way down on some graphics cards

engine improvements can compensate

but like I told Ecn it could also fry them

[old flint]

I doubt it’s gonna be that intensive, the game is mostly cpu and ram intensive

[mortal kernel]

;))

[pallid onyx]

Animals can compensate

[compact shadow]

my guess is thatr its gonna run roughly the same all things considered

[mortal kernel]

don't think so

[pallid onyx]

My guess is that it will run smoothly now

[old flint]

I think they mentioned in a dev blog they tested the branch on a potato pc and saw decent performance

[pallid onyx]

Thanks god

[compact shadow]

with the 64 layers and the new lighting theyd have to do some pretty major engine optimizations to still have it running better, right?

[old flint]

I remember reading something about it at some point just can’t remember the specifics

[mortal kernel]

yes

[pallid onyx]

yesn't

[old flint]

I guess it depends how potato your pc is

[mortal kernel]

of course

[pallid onyx]

potato potato

[mortal kernel]

a couple of month ago they have stated that they improved the engine to help the game in busy areas

[compact shadow]

driving through the larger towns i do occasionally go below 30 fps if theres more than a few zombies

[pallid onyx]

potato potato

[mortal kernel]

Heat of The Night was the blog post in case someone searches for that

[compact shadow]

on foot i dont have that issue and it miiiight be the car mods

[mortal kernel]

PC

[old flint]

Try the better fps mod, it might help you out. But with b42 around the corner might be worth just waiting.

[compact shadow]

definitely

[mortal kernel]

PC upgrades are calling

you must hear them ring

[compact shadow]

im good

[pallid onyx]

Nicky is good

[pallid onyx]

That mod helped me no cap

[mortal kernel]

I'm running it on a workstation so never experienced those problems

[compact shadow]

this thing was an emergency prebuilt bought by my dad a while ago after my old laptop kicked the bucket (gpu died)

and whoever put it together was smoking crack

[pallid onyx]

Holy

[mortal kernel]

;)))$

[pallid onyx]

At least you can play no cap

[compact shadow]

its got a xeon e5 2680 v2 in it which is an ooooold server cpu with 10 cores and 20 threads

but each of those cores is kinda cruddy

[mortal kernel]

just been around long enough

[pallid onyx]

Don't deny it

[compact shadow]

it would be a decent overclocking candidate since it barely kicks out heat and this thing has watercooling but the motherboard doesnt support overclocking

[mortal kernel]

buy a new one

[compact shadow]

not worth it

[mortal kernel]

a boxed i7 or i9

[pallid onyx]

Just wait till B42

In B42 we trust

[compact shadow]

i dont experience enough problems to be worth upgrading and i dont have the money anyway

[mortal kernel]

the tech that's in the new generation CPUs is way better and optimized

[compact shadow]

and expensive

[mortal kernel]

ahh yes of course you need a good budget

[pallid onyx]

Lets pray for Nicky

[compact shadow]

this pc does everything i need it to and does it well, even runs cyberpunk on decent settings

[pallid onyx]

Damn cyberpunk, nevermind

[compact shadow]

the single core performance is abysmal but its juuuust good enough that most video games are still gpu bound (gtx 1070)

[mortal kernel]

gtx 1070 is old

[compact shadow]

managed to get an absolutely ludicrous undervolt on that 1070 too

[mortal kernel]

and performance?

you saw some decrease ?

[compact shadow]

nah

the reason for this undervolt is that, again, the person putting together this pc was smoking crack

and used a psu that doesnt have an 8 pin and a 6 pin, and so the 6 pin is running off a molex adapter

when the gpu draws full power, the pc crashes, so i had to undervolt to get decent stability

[mortal kernel]

ooo that's bad

must get a decent PSU with recommend power supply

and cables...

[compact shadow]

ive been meaning to but its a real haggis roof situation

the sun is shining so theres no need to fix the hole in the roof

[mortal kernel]

untill the rain starts

get a recommend PSU for that build, I advise

[compact shadow]

i will if i run into problems

dont feel like unplugging and replugging all the cables if its working fine

anyway, build 42

[pallid onyx]

In B42 we trust

[mortal kernel]

that's smoked, it's comming before xmas, baphclass confirmed it again,nothing else but to wait for the update on steam

[compact shadow]

where?

[mortal kernel]

and compulsively check the steamdb like children

Nurse's stream twitch

check back 100+ messages and you will find the link

[old flint]

The best advice is to just go play some games and check back here tomorrow

[mortal kernel]

starting at 32:10

[tawdry gull]

it wont happen automatically will it? thought it would be a beta you need to toggle

[mortal kernel]

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/2326093969?desktop-redirect=true&filter=archives&sort=time

here baphclass at 32:10

enjoy and Merry Christmas !

[mortal kernel]

no, you will need to right click.zomboid > properties > betas > select b42 from the drop down menu

b42 is optional to play, b41 will remain the stable build untill it will moved to legacy and that's after 42 stable

[pallid onyx]

Fr

[compact shadow]

caves of qud recently got its 1.0 update if any of you dont know what to play

[fallen phoenix]

quit ur job play minecraft

[tawdry gull]

thats what i mean

[mortal kernel]

you will always have the option of checking out future and past builds

[stable bison]

Sure, but also Hearts of Iron 4 Kaiserreich, Frostpunk 2, and Helldivers 2 were all also recently updated with big content. If it's a survival vibe you need, Skyrim Special Edition has had a giant pile of mods in the past year that have modernized and updated the game, especially for survival playthroughs. Same goes for Fallout: London. If you desperately need isometric zombie basebuilder games, Dead State is pretty cheap on Steam and a fantastic way to kill 40 hours.

Also, I have a new idea for getting Build 42. We all buy as much tea as we can where each of us live. We take it all, and dump it in nearby harbors. As TIS are Britain-based, I believe that this will force them to release the build.

[mortal kernel]

Skyrim RIP one the best games of all times

but I can't go past it without saying how everyone escalated mountains at launch.....

[mortal kernel]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2019/10/build-41-iwbums-out/ for reference

[latent mulch]

damm 11k messages

[mortal kernel]

it will 12k by Monday

everyone is hyped

can't blame

the wait was long enough

[pallid onyx]

Close to 42k messages

42 the magic number

[latent mulch]

12k by night lol

[latent mulch]

yesss

[earnest stirrup]

Hope this time we are really near to it.

[earnest stirrup]

This from B41 unstable release post

[mortal kernel]

so long ago I've forgotten about that lol

[latent mulch]

a blessing and a curse

scared of what modders will do with it

[mortal kernel]

horses I hope

good ones not like that joke of a mod

so very much needed if one is set to try out a wilderness run

the only immersive option I see for traveling vast distances on a procedurally generated wilderness map would be a horse

anything else just ruins the immersion

[latent mulch]

walking

(I do agree though horses will be awesome?

[mortal kernel]

walking vast distances ?

[latent mulch]

horses will be awesome

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/yabba-dabba-doo-car-flintstones-gif-14618105

[mortal kernel]

;)))

it's not a very bad ideea crafting a Flintstones type of a car to get around

can see that happening with a mod

but still I'm gonna go with horses

[ripe garden]

Daily build 42 check:

[mint flax]

no

[fiery pine]

Horses would make the most sense

[mint flax]

ahahaha I DID IT THIS TIME

I AM the indie stone!!!

[fiery pine]

It's gonna feel rough getting around the map without a car though

[latent mulch]

has anyone asked Pat yet?

[mint flax]

no he scares me

[latent mulch]

daily Pat check

[mortal kernel]

horses + craftable carts to carry your loot, just sprung to mind 😉

[fallen phoenix]

let him sleep

minecraft?

[pallid onyx]

let em sleep

[ebon wind]

Whoa check steam

[pallid onyx]

You

[ebon wind]

There are some games on sale. That's crazy

[pallid onyx]

[fiery pine]

Is pz on sale?

[ebon wind]

Idk I didn't check

[fiery pine]

Gonna buy it for my friends and make him suffer with me

[open vessel]

not yet

[ebon wind]

Hell yeah

[fallen phoenix]

none of these compel me 😔

[fiery pine]

Oh, I thought he meant the Christmas sale was here

[fallen phoenix]

i think the lowest ive ever seen pz is like $14

[fiery pine]

I think these are just the same sales from TGA

[ebon wind]

No I was just briefly baiting b42 suspense

I didn't even open steam I just knew there would be some sale

[fallen phoenix]

u made me think there was someth good

[pallid onyx]

That's a good friend right there

[fallen phoenix]

& briefly forget that i have no money

[ebon wind]

Holy shit guys it's here

[fallen phoenix]

u are literally the worst person ever

[open vessel]

Steam Winter Sale will likely arrive in 4 days

[ebon wind]

My new pen! It's arrived!

[fallen phoenix]

what kind of pen

[pallid onyx]

pen

[ebon wind]

Sorry I lied I haven't gotten a new pen lately

[fiery pine]

So real, I got humble bundle yet I never play most of the games I claim

[open vessel]

invisible ink pen?

[ebon wind]

It would likely be a fountain pen though, thanks for asking. Might get a new one as a holiday gift to myself

[fallen phoenix]

what the fuck is ur dmg

[ebon wind]

I like to spread misinformation on the internet

[pallid onyx]

A good gift

[fallen phoenix]

last game i got was df as a gift... my brother wants me dead (from playing too much vibby game)

[ebon wind]

What's df?

[fallen phoenix]

dwarf fortress

[ebon wind]

Ohhh

Hell yeah

[fallen phoenix]

its so good 😭

[fiery pine]

Dwarf fortress W, ive yet to play it yet but I've seen videos of it looks like a ton of fun

[ebon wind]

I played it a bit, haven't touched it in a while

[fiery pine]

I've played Rimworld before as well I will always appreciate indie titles way more now like zero sievert and core keeper those are some good gems

Indie > AAA slop (yet I still end up playing AAA slop like cod for the zombies easter eggs)

[fallen phoenix]

so real i was in the middle of playing the veilguard when i got df...

i was like oh a dragon age game that cares if ur a dwarf... then a dwarfier game hit me

[fiery pine]

Rock and stone!

[mortal kernel]

what a coincidence ;)))

[pallid onyx]

Coincidences do not exist

[tawny quarry]

Pat has not said no yet

[pallid onyx]

Well

[latent mulch]

I'm betting it's either tomorrow or thursday

else it would be too late and too much already into christmas

[tawny quarry]

Very, very high chance aometime this week

[latent mulch]

yes

[stable bison]

Wednesday would be the absolute latest I bet.

[ornate scroll]

How much do you bet tho?

[latent mulch]

a 100 chickens

[pallid onyx]

🤞

[median cedar]

i think it will be thursday 19 with a anticipated thursdoid blog,cause the next thursday is the 26th

[obtuse wasp]

Last Thursday was the last regular thursdroid.

There are no more this year

[pallid onyx]

[azure mantle]

It's today cause I just started my weekend

[obtuse wasp]

It's a Sunday they are probably spending their day chilling

[vivid apex]

no

[pallid onyx]

yesn't

[pallid onyx]

Me pov

[tawdry gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27567306

Me whenever i hear mention of B42

[pallid onyx]

Same

[tawdry gull]

its also me when i check the PZ discord and see that B42 isnt out yet

[pallid onyx]

Same

[tawdry gull]

the gif has alot of applications

[pallid onyx]

Yeah

[tawdry gull]

https://tenor.com/view/domgcat-donkeycat-gif-24380643

this ones just me

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[tawdry gull]

ima continue with my bad jokes, but its also me when a new thursdoid blog is out

[pallid onyx]

Same

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-nothing-ever-happens-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5603746312914518503

Haters when b42 drops

[grizzled plank]

Did they said no yet?

for today

[tawdry gull]

dont think so

[native bronze]

It is sunday my dude

[limber idol]

I don't think it's necessary for the weekend.

[mint flax]

they telepathically broadcast it to us. they also played the spongebob boo womp sound

[limber idol]

So that's why I heard it in the parking lot.

[white marten]

I'm convinced the devs never sleep.

[mint flax]

yeah nah it scared the shit out of me

im like a rimworld psycaster so that shit was loud af for me

[limber idol]

Lmao

[pallid onyx]

In B42 we trust

[deep wing]

What if something happens and we actually get B42? What happens to 'nothing ever happens'

[white marten]

Then we spend the next week ignoring our families playing PZ.

[late jackal]

Bated

[indigo bane]

I'm playing with my parents

https://tenor.com/view/baby-duty-gaming-gif-9921031000453065474

[pallid onyx]

Exactly

[white marten]

Dear devs - I need B42 to survive Christmas with the extended family. Please.

[radiant dagger]

B42 today

[proper dirge]

Wow, I'm glad we made it past 11k

[compact shadow]

👀

[indigo bane]

4-5 day and we get it

[compact shadow]

next week seems likely

[mortal kernel]

yes we cleared that out it was misspelled

[indigo bane]

23th is a monday

[latent mulch]

baited

[latent mulch]

yes it is

[indigo bane]

it could be the 23th

[latent mulch]

hmmmm I don't know

feels to late for them to work in bugfixes

I'm betting hard on either 19 (thursdoid) or 21 (the predictions Pat sent)

[snow nimbus]

[indigo bane]

maybe they do not plan to do hotfix since they are working hard with the testers now to fix most of the most annoying bugs

[latent mulch]

true true

[high copper]

no b42 today? 😔😔😔

[latent mulch]

devs are resting most likely, they deserve it

[indigo bane]

no b42 today but b42 in two days

[high copper]

No zomboid on the sabbath 🙏

[indigo bane]

what are you playing guys waiting for the update

[latent mulch]

nothing I can't feel happy playing anything else

[indigo bane]

i understand

[latent mulch]

are ya playing anything?

[high copper]

bg3 tbh. That's kind of it

[proper dirge]

SE, with 4 of my friends

[indigo bane]

rimworld / helldivers 2 / conqueror's blade

everytime i think about B42 i start crying and i change the game actually

[indigo bane]

Space engineer ?

well i can't play SE either since SE 2 is coming

[proper dirge]

Yep, gonna fly into a modded blackhole. But SE 2 won't come out this year or in a couple months hopefully.

[broken trench]

Would tornadoes come to Zomboid since it takes place in Kentucky?

[deep wing]

I literally finally picked up SE like a week ago I'm fuming SE2 is coming out

[proper dirge]

Me too, right when the pz server I was on ended

[high copper]

project zomboid natural disasters update: narrowly escape eating shit to a zombie to instead eat shit to a nader!

[broken trench]

🐐

[quiet imp]

had a dream a dev posted the 'dawn of the final day' gif

[high copper]

God I wish...

Has Pat commented "No" in chat today yet

If not, then there's still Jope

[latent storm]

It's Sunday lol

Give them a break

[deep wing]

They've had more breaks than a pensioner, give us B42

[sharp vault]

Imagine just being up front with your community instead of leading us on for half a year

[silk thorn]

We are still getting archery in this update?

I hope arrows are projectiles

[tawny quarry]

Pretty sure brandenburg has been shown with a tornado scar

[indigo bane]

stable

[white marten]

I think they've been pretty upfront?

[earnest stirrup]

Archery is on B42, but delayed, so not when unstable will be released.

Expect it after some time

[silk thorn]

Oh alright

[sharp vault]

Okay thats good for you! 😄

[silk thorn]

Sounds very cool

[white marten]

In what way do you think they haven't

[sharp vault]

Letting us know that it will drop this year then giving us the game dec 31

if they even do

These devs are unorganized with estimating project times

[hollow pasture]

Like the potential for delay into the new year essentially

[fallen phoenix]

yeah, not all of us can read smh

[sharp vault]

exactly

[silk thorn]

Pz 42 will be perfect Christmas persent

[hollow pasture]

If I’m being totally honest, there definitely is a bit of a scope creep issue

Don’t get me wrong I love the game, but build 42 is like a dozen major updates in one major update

And iirc, they essentially cut their list in half to get where we are now

[earnest stirrup]

You will receive it before Christmas... Probably on 19-21

[fallen phoenix]

it is so wild doing this on a sunday tho like setting urself & anyone u pull into this argument up for failure

[silk thorn]

Imma spend my whole Christmas break playing xD I have nothing else to do

[deep wing]

This whole discord is a copium mine

[fallen phoenix]

it is literally a weekend if they dont work today then theres nothing they can do u cant make anything of that at all actually

[sharp vault]

I have a lot of appreciation to but when it comes too guys dont cross me off as a whiny one ive been patient

[fallen phoenix]

u picked a bad time to demonstrate ur patience

even friday wouldve been better lmfao

[sharp vault]

theyve had a stable version for so long they are very afraid opf their own mistakes

[sharp vault]

idk y

[deep wing]

The Devs haven't been great with communication this year, they've gotten better recently but first half of 2024 was something we still haven't received an apology for

[fallen phoenix]

its literally the weekend dude. ur argument is a non-starter.

[sharp vault]

indeed

[earnest stirrup]

I spent a Christmas afternoon rosiking on "hard rain" campaign on L4d reality in past. Spend the next on B42 sound funny, at least the evening.

[woeful sparrow]

spore and m&b warband mostly

[old flint]

I don’t think it really matters at this point tbh. We will have b42 soon anyway

[deep wing]

SteamDB is showing updates from yesterday, they are in fact working

[hollow pasture]

In my opinion it’d be better for the games overall health to downsize the scale of future updates after build 42 to smaller, probably yearly updates or something

[fallen phoenix]

today?

[hollow pasture]

The major complaint is slow dev time which is apparently hurting their mental health, and combined with their plans for better mod conversion it seems like the best option

[deep wing]

Yes, private build 'mptesting' was uploaded late night Saturday depending on where you're from

[silk thorn]

Lets just be glad this isn't an aaa studio where they'll add a battlepass and a subscription and a skin shop

[sharp vault]

Yea oven i think so as well and that is probably the exact issue their running into chanigng so many mechanics trying to cash checks theyre ass aint cashin

[earnest stirrup]

I agree but I think this is so because they meet some difficulties underestimated.

[fallen phoenix]

mp is not part of the update we're waiting for

[old flint]

Most of the delays was due to staff shortage and emergencies which they didn’t expect nor had any cover for. They apologised for that and have hired lots more now and won’t make that mistake.

[woeful sparrow]

didnt they say that they like doing bigger updates for longer because then releases bring more new players and sold copies

[deep wing]

Yeah, ok? My point is updates are going out, the studio is working.

[old flint]

Pretty sure they also said updates won’t be as long as it has been.

[sharp vault]

i dont agree with this

[fallen phoenix]

today?

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/relax-gif-22242131

[deep wing]

Yes, today

[woeful sparrow]

never

[sharp vault]

comparing them to AAA loot box studios does not making anoyone feel better about b42 never dcoming out

[hollow pasture]

That’s what they say, but even if it theoretically did, is it worth annihilating their mental health to the point of almost selling the IP just because they have a grandiose vision of the update?

[fallen phoenix]

"late saturday"

[woeful sparrow]

they should make up their minds then

[hollow pasture]

Like in the promised features for B42 list, if you zone in on like the top four alone, map expansion and stuff, it’s enough to justify its own major updates

[silk thorn]

Just let them cook

[earnest stirrup]

Yes but they said this also for other builds... I have nothing against them, but also if they doubled the team from B41 expect always 2-3 years of devlopement for the update (unstable)

[hollow pasture]

They think they need to reinvent the wheel every update to make it good, but they don’t

[sharp vault]

lets all be realistic here.... they are not giving us B42 on the holidays guys... do u really think they all want to sacrafice their holiday with patching the game???? cmonn

i think its safe to say we will see b42 next year

[sudden falcon]

Release it ffs

[woeful sparrow]

no

[sudden falcon]

Now!

[fallen phoenix]

new heights of stupidity itt

[old flint]

I mean b42 is literally a huge update, probably bigger than b41 in terms of features and changes to the game.

They have a bigger team now, once b42 unstable is released their work will continue to push out small updates with the delayed features.

[woeful sparrow]

i refuse

[indigo bane]

@deep wing Kirrus said he was simply testing the jenkins pipeline configuration and we should not getting excited for these steamdb update

[earnest stirrup]

I think you will have a nice surprise than, I'm positive 🙂

[sudden falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-27299608

[silk thorn]

We waited 3 years we can wait a few more days

[fallen phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-tree-animal-crossing-twigs-shake-animal-crossing-gif-17333934

[deep wing]

rs, its either now or next year, and the dev on Lethal Company will have a similar situation as the one earlier this year

[tawny quarry]

you're god damn right

[old flint]

The next “big” update is probably human npcs which I wouldn’t even consider looking to get excited over at the moment.

[sharp vault]

lol i understand your feeling i just im trying to be realistic at this point.. ive had a positive attitude about it til today lol

[deep wing]

don't even want NPC's actually

[fallen phoenix]

ur not being realistic at all lol

[silk thorn]

Build 43 will be basic npcs and stuff so it'll probably just be npcs showing up giving us quests

[hollow pasture]

Hopefully it’s faster. At the same time I’m pretty sure they promised faster development in previous builds too, so I’ll believe it when I see it. I’d love to be proven wrong tho

[sharp vault]

it will be kind of cool and give community servers more to do with traders and missions i think its cool!

[indigo bane]

imo 80% we get the update next week 20% next year

[old flint]

Yeah but as they said they had dev team emergencies which they weren’t prepared for. That lesson has been learned now.

[hollow pasture]

My main worry is their goal of the scope of what they want npcs to be. especially stage 3 sounds like it’s gonna take potentially longer than build 42 to implement

[indigo bane]

they would have told us this week if they delayed the update

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/таинственноедерево-мдроедерево-25-дерево-тебе25-gif-26895001

[tawny quarry]

i hope i can kill them.

[old flint]

Npcs has been worked on for years

[earnest stirrup]

I understand this point but if they would chosen to delay it, than I think they would already said it.

May be they think the actual state have a good polish state.

[fallen phoenix]

ur acting like they want u to be mad at them tho instead of realizing that if they promised release date ranges in a blog post they know what the consequences will be if it falls thru

[bright python]

have we tried asking the devs nicely for them to release b42 unstable?

[old flint]

We still have other teased features to get before that, like ramps for multi floor car driving.

[woeful sparrow]

we should try asking them not to release it

[sterile gorge]

reverse psychology always works

[fallen phoenix]

ive been begging

[sharp vault]

by that same logic if they werent gona release any time near mid year why did they say that? lol

[tawny quarry]

you're... you're a genius!

[hollow pasture]

I hope so too

[bright python]

you know i don't thnk i want them to release b42

[old flint]

If we are getting it before Christmas like they have planned and said they want to do then likely it’ll be between next Monday - Wednesday

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah may be this is the reason. If this is the case than may be future builds will be a little faster

[abstract oak]

You're pretty bad at math if you think we cut it im half.

[indigo bane]

Hey Soul

[hollow pasture]

Greetings

[fallen phoenix]

its a load-bearing "???" we all know this

[woeful sparrow]

Soul Filcher The Indie Stone

[hollow pasture]

This was from the top of my head tho cause I vaguely remember hearing of it

[sharp vault]

yeah doubt their cutting down anything since were still waiting lmao

[hollow pasture]

Not currently, in the past

[fallen phoenix]

genuinely how do they correct this aside from releasing the update right this second? cos ur saying that its not releasing at all at this rate... the announcement was 2 weeks ago. when would u accept it?

if ur such a realist, what time would be realistic if it is, in fact, releasing?

[latent mulch]

same samee

good games though!

[silk thorn]

We realistically only have to wait to 6-8 more days for the update

[fallen phoenix]

sunday afternoon??

[silk thorn]

If it is before christmas

[sharp vault]

well they have been transparent about what their doing so its obvious theyre not throwing away a bunch of content for a sooner release

[indigo bane]

i'd say 4-5 day, i don't expect the release for the next week end

[sterile gorge]

A lot of the features seem pretty interconnected, so removing one feature from the update would impact others. Like the dev's wishes that crafting can be done starting from complete wilderness would in turn require animals to be added, which in turn requires animal husbandry, etc.

[sharp vault]

maybe they might put aside a few things like i think theyve already mentioned

[fallen phoenix]

u cant cut/paste content in video game development tho, in all odds theyre literally making sure its not broken rn

[woeful sparrow]

googoogaga

[silk thorn]

Its an old game and adding huge stuff like animals and stuff takes alot

[fallen phoenix]

if u want features cut for a sooner release, its past that point. making sure it functioned after the cuts would take more time

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/skynet-skyboy-nayaka-joget-kucing-joget-gif-12873262552992549006

[old flint]

Some Devs have likely been working on some of the delayed features, during the unstable build testing. So it’s probably not gonna be forever until we get some of the delayed stuff

[midnight plaza]

There's loads of other games to fill the time while B42 cooks. They might drop it this month or it may get delayed but its not like its gonna be a bad update once it does drop

[bright python]

please don't release b42

[woeful sparrow]

please dont

[indigo bane]

i think it's more a matter of balancing, particularly for the different tech trees of the new crafting

[silk thorn]

Rushed things never end up good so lets just wait and let them do their thing, all settled

[indigo bane]

Yes i totally agree, but next week plz

[old flint]

Next week will hopefully be the week we all go nuts. But until then we should relax

[sharp vault]

i think im just gonna work myself up into a critical state of panic if they dont release soon

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-chinese-dancing-gif-15158230222950356755

[tawny quarry]

i need some sort of restriction on the blog so i stop checking it every 5 minutes

[old flint]

Honestly just do something to pass the time. Working yourself up won’t do anything.

It ain’t gonna make the build release any quicker worrying about it

[mint flax]

I live for this game. number one pz fan united states

[cursive violet]

If anything being distracted will make it come faster then you realize and be pleasantly surprised when it does

[sharp vault]

im playing poe2.. tg something has released to feed my hunger

[cursive violet]

But the hype is very real I understand it too

[silk thorn]

Hype is massive

[sharp vault]

yeah the hype is real once they drop 42 then we can all sweat until they finish testing MP... LOL

[hollow pasture]

3 years of edging ends this month

[bright python]

have y'all tried meditation

[silk thorn]

I swear I'm gonna have at least an extra 1000 hours of zomboid when it comes out I'm not leaving my room 😭

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dancing-dancing-cat-cat-cat-dance-gif-4990417705814603993

[indigo bane]

i'm trying to sleep

[abstract oak]

Exactly. What is in is in, what needed to be cut has been cut already some time ago.

[latent mulch]

this:::

[woeful sparrow]

meditation can give you psychosis dont do it

[white marten]

I just moved, have enough in savings for a couple weeks. I can truly no-life Zomboid.

[midnight plaza]

If you really want it to come sooner, an intentional coma is always an option. If you're lucky, the next moment you open your eyes we're already at B43

[hollow pasture]

The stuff cut from planned release a while ago was what I was referring to, not stuff being cut now

[hollow pasture]

Probably not

[latent mulch]

or just wake up, do your normal obligations and go to sleep as early as you can

basicallyy a timeskip for like 8 hours or so

[white marten]

Not to mention it's a custom game engine - so it's likely they had to make modifications to the engine itself to allow animals in the first place.

[indigo bane]

and light propagation

[silk thorn]

So many new things

[grim flare]

They should just migrate to unity fr

[indigo bane]

"migrate"

[mint flax]

pillars or path?

[latent mulch]

godot >>

[grim flare]

Did I use the wrong word?

[indigo bane]

migrate is more making the game from scratch i guess

they would rather make PZ 2

[white marten]

...Why? A custom engine is infinitely more flexible.

Also Guez is right, they would have to remake the entire game from scratch.

[silk thorn]

Npcs will probably work alot like how animals work

[white marten]

It wouldn't be like making a Unity 4 game into Unity 5.

[grim flare]

It was a joke. It's too late to switch the engine lol

[white marten]

Animals are the first iteration of NPCs, they are the groundwork for them. They're basically really stupid NPCs

[azure mantle]

TIS just needs a todd howard to lie to eveyones face with impunity

[indigo bane]

Since multiplayer exist, i can wait for NPCs

[white marten]

It won't exist for 42 for a bit.

[indigo bane]

ye

[silk thorn]

I wanna recreate civilization with npcs and stuff that would be so cool

[bright python]

we need one big collective deep breath. relax shoulders, unclench jaw. inner peace is priceless

[woeful sparrow]

seems like this thread finally ran out of topics to talk about

[hollow pasture]

We need a new topic

[midnight plaza]

Once the animals drop, the wizards over at the workshop will somehow manage to cobble together human AI mods and i'm here for it

[indigo bane]

who knows, maybe the new technology advancement with AI will make them able to do something great with NPCs

[white marten]

I'm playing a very underwieght and weak character - ran into a group of 5 zombies and got 2 lacerations from it.

[bright python]

have y'all ever had candied pecans

[silk thorn]

Yeah that would be sick

[latent mulch]

candied orange skin>

[grim flare]

I saw a telephone tile in one of the thursdoids. Is every single house going to have telephones in B42????

[hollow pasture]

Hell yes baby 👌😎

[latent mulch]

I wonder if we will be able to use them as radios once MP is out

[ebon wind]

No, no! You can't stop the rage now, just as I'm arriving! Chat, argue!

[silk thorn]

Like walkie talkies that's so cool

But in the lore

[grim flare]

Canonically, the phone lines were disconnected before the outbreak started

[indigo bane]

i imagine new possibilities with the lore, the telephone start ringing and you get information about the pandemic and something to search

[silk thorn]

They cut the phone lines yeah

[latent mulch]

dam

[bright python]

first place that comes to mind, IRL, what/where is your favorite place to be

[white marten]

I wonder if local calls in town would of been possible still? Just not out of the zone.

[ebon wind]

I don't think the first place that came to mind is necessarily my favorite place

I immediately thought of my bedroom but I'm currently there

[deep wing]

Who guessed that the PZ community would be just as a angry over dev misinformation and poor communication as every other game community to ever walk the planet

[bright python]

that's okay, not a bad place to be

[ebon wind]

I don't think poor communication is a very fair way to put it

[ebon wind]

This is true. Hbu?

[latent mulch]

they have better communication then basically any other devs

literal week/monthly reports

[indigo bane]

they communicated every month about the game

[deep wing]

Mayor of copington city over here

[indigo bane]

and it was not short dev blogs

[ebon wind]

I understand your point at its core, Billy, that the mixed messages earlier this year were frustrating & it's understandable that people are angry

[scenic python]

b42 is releasing in less than an hour

[bright python]

next to a creek in the woods in my hometown

[ebon wind]

But it's not false that they communicate plenty

[latent mulch]

If you think they have bad communication then ya just blind and haven't read all the thursdoids

[old flint]

Just be glad they aren’t charging updates as paid dlc 🤷🏻‍♂️

[latent mulch]

yeap

[ebon wind]

Hell yeah, creeks in the woods go hard as chill spots. I remember one near my grandmother's house as a kid

[bright python]

what is your favorite snack, billy

[deep wing]

A big old nothingburger

[tawdry gull]

whos angry about the pz devs?

[deep wing]

Me, I am

[latent mulch]

billy, beat'em

[silk thorn]

I hope we will be able to grow everything in the update

[tawdry gull]

why

[silk thorn]

I wanna grow apple trees and stuff

[ebon wind]

You are. Let the rage overtake you. Don't ask why. Just feel the rage

[tawdry gull]

wait, no its working

[bright python]

creeks are so chill. put your worries on a leaf and let them float down stream

[ebon wind]

Aren't you just so dang mad 😡

[white marten]

I dunno I think the devs have been pretty upfront about the timeline as its changed.

[tawdry gull]

my anger over waiting so long for B42 is bubbling over the edge

[ebon wind]

Now use that anger and manifest b42

[abstract oak]

Zomboid NPCs will be so complex that a new branch of psychology research will be created to deal with their problems.

[ebon wind]

If we all get enraged enough, it will come out immediately

[deep wing]

This is exactly what happened to me, I'm not even that angry anymore it's just human nature

[tawdry gull]

if we all rage hard enough the devs will just work quicker, right?

[ebon wind]

Props for admitting it at least

[tawdry gull]

Why are you angry at the devs though?

[silk thorn]

I can't wait for sorts of crazy things to happen it will be very fun to play with

[white marten]

Maybe a therapist profession that gives us a boost to social skills?

[tawdry gull]

and why does you count as the PZ community lol

[bright python]

have you ever grown potted plants irl? peppers are dope to grow

[ebon wind]

I'm sure if you check reddit & probably steam forums there will be more anger

[silk thorn]

I grew tomatoes with my brother but that's it

[ebon wind]

But ultimately the anger doesn't change anything

[deep wing]

Yeah I'm a stinky angry redditor bringing my bad mood into discord

[ebon wind]

I think we can be critical when it's necessary in a respectful way. I don't think right now it's warranted. But that's me

[silk thorn]

idk how they will do charisma and stuff like that 😭

[deep wing]

tomaotes are so easy to go

[tawdry gull]

if people want to be angry about something then they will find something

[ebon wind]

I'm really angry about this message

[tawdry gull]

same

[deep wing]

everyone with a pot in their garden has grown tomatoes in it at some point

[ebon wind]

True, tomatoes are a must try for growing

[white marten]

I love tomatoes.

[mild orchid]

I love tomatos as well

[silk thorn]

Does any one have ideas how social skills will work in pz

[bright python]

i used to grow tomatoes, would pick them green and make fried green tomatoes

[ebon wind]

I like tomatoes. I'm not quite ready for commitment, but maybe after some time getting to know them I'll be comfortable saying love

[latent mulch]

tomato sandwhich mmhmhmmhm

[deep wing]

the farming on bamboo sticks looks cool, opening up a whole realm for more realistic farming, rather than tilling some holes in a garden and growing corn on it

[white marten]

Indeterminate varieties are nice, especially to grow them on an arbor

[deep wing]

what will we be feeding our animals though?

[latent mulch]

zombies

[ebon wind]

They will eat the Slop and they will like It

[indigo bane]

grass

[silk thorn]

I hope the only cure mod is implemented as a real thing in build 43

[indigo bane]

i don't like that

[ebon wind]

I like bites being certain death personally, but if they were to add it it would be a sandbox option anyhow

[silk thorn]

Well we need more lore on how the Knox infection spreads

[bright python]

i hope we all have a really chill day

[mild orchid]

what do you think grass tastes like to cows

[ebon wind]

Grass I think

[latent mulch]

we already know thou

[silk thorn]

Yeah

[latent mulch]

the dammed spiffo's burguers

[deep wing]

In the winter? and grass is not enough for them, not unless you want a healthy cow that will give you good cuts of meat/any drinkable amounts of dairy

[tawdry gull]

thats an interesting point, i guess you would have to give them hay or grain etc

[deep wing]

will there be a difference between dairy cows and slaughter cows?

[latent mulch]

I wish PZ had more leftovers when cooking

like onion peels, carrot skin, some bad leaves in lettuces, corn peels etc

they make for great cow food

[tawdry gull]

i could be wrong but i think its just the cows, deer, rats etc. Not any sub variations

[silk thorn]

And compost

[tawdry gull]

i was thinking composting but that too

[latent mulch]

yeah for composting works too

[tawdry gull]

good point

[deep wing]

that doesn't make sense though, all cows can give us milk and all cows are also good for slaughter?

[latent mulch]

I just wanna grab a corn, peel the skin off and get their skin, and cook the corn and eat the corn and get the cob

I want as much litter and misc items as possible

[white marten]

There are species, you can see that in one of the blogs. But no clue if they're an initial release thing.

[silk thorn]

People are lucky who start playing after build 42 comes out we've been waiting for quite a while

[tawdry gull]

well its called males and females

[bright python]

yall ever had elotes

[indigo bane]

In summer, otherwise they eat hay

[tawdry gull]

and well i mean they aren't specialized for either, just default cow if i had to guess

[deep wing]

mmm i love gay

[hollow pasture]

That’s what I like to hear

[silk thorn]

I wonder if animals will have their own traits

[deep wing]

male cows are bulls

and we don't eat bull

[drifting vale]

not today

[white marten]

There we go - you can see breeds are a thing. So, there should be a possible difference between dairy cows and slaughter cows.

[drifting vale]

back to the cave

[tawdry gull]

apologies for wrong terminology, but im sure in the apocalypse you can eat bulls

[tawdry gull]

interesting, hopefully i was wrong then

[hollow pasture]

The player character can manipulate time to rapidly age animals in the new update

[tawdry gull]

B43, the old age update

[silk thorn]

I wonder how the lifespans will work because don't cows live for quite a while

[hollow pasture]

Also is age measured in years? Cause most ppl wouldn’t live to see their animals grow up in that case lmao

Or care for that matter

[deep wing]

I mean, you can, but I'm talking proper real farming, make rat soup for all I care, but I want to do some real kentucky rednecking

[ebon wind]

I'm a bit late but genetics was discussed explicitly in https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/03/milky-milky/ & https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/12/departments-of-the-damned/

[white marten]

Yea, 15-20 years. but slaughter cows usually get butchered at about 18 months. Sometimes as early as a year.

[tawdry gull]

no thats fair, but in the apocalypse maybe the bulls gotten a bit old and isnt of use anymore other than on the plate

[tawdry gull]

oh thats cool, ranching in B42 is gonna be so good

[silk thorn]

I have an idea

[white marten]

I imagine there's sandbox settings though to reduce aging.

[silk thorn]

They'll probably live less maybe because of the knox infection maybe

Less lifespan

[tawdry gull]

i hope it takes a more realistic approach, but i can obviously see the appeal not to because you would have useless calves for years

[deep wing]

B42 is adding months of gameplay to PZ, and adjusting difficulty so people get to experience that, Its likely we will see longer playthroughs that hold more content before the player gets bored

[hollow pasture]

Fleshed out midgame most definitely, I doubt the endgame issue is gonna be solved though

Helped for sure, but not solved

[white marten]

Not exactly - veal comes from calves slaughtered at around 4 months. You also wouldn't need to raise a cow to adulthood anyway - that's almost a literal ton of meat.

[silk thorn]

Npcs will definitely add lots of stuff for early game mid game and end game

[white marten]

Remember in modern times cows are slaughtered at the 'optimal' age for weight vs expense, in an apocalypse? Slaughter those baby calves at a couple months you'll still get yourself a few hundred pounds of meat.

[tawdry gull]

good point, but my point still somewhat stands because you wouldnt be able to raise a calf to adulthood, even more so a problem if theres genetics

but your right about veal

[white marten]

cows are classed as adults at a year

[tawdry gull]

irl?

[white marten]

Yep

[silk thorn]

Maybe they'll make the Knox infection make the animals die younger so there's old age

[tawdry gull]

Damn

[white marten]

Sorry 2 years*

[tawdry gull]

2 pz years is a long time lol, but much better than i thought

[indigo bane]

i ate a piece of meat from a 45 year old cow, it's excellent trust me

[white marten]

That lines up with the devs hope of making longer-term games viable, so I think they're going to go with that as vanilla. I personally will be halving the lifespan if possible.

[main patrol]

Heyy uhh can someone confirm with me here in steam betas it says unstable?

[silk thorn]

Barely anyone will get to a 20 year save

[hollow pasture]

The WR is 14 years iirc

[white marten]

My longest run was 3 years, and that's just because I got bored lol. So yea. But I want to live my farmville life out

[warm pike]

mooooooooo

[mint flax]

unstable currently is same as stable

[main patrol]

Was it always there or?

[mint flax]

yeh its always there

[white marten]

unstable has been a branch for years. Last update was 3 years ago.

[indigo bane]

uhmmm sounds a lie

[warm pike]

my longest was like 2 years then i paul walkered myself

[silk thorn]

They would have made an announcement

[ripe garden]

i want b42 nowww 👶 😭

[ebon wind]

It's the old unstable

[tawdry gull]

i can imagine farming keeping me hook on singleplayer

[indigo bane]

Animals Crossoid

[silk thorn]

Stardew Zomballey

[tawdry gull]

ive never lived longer than like a week or two in singleplayer, but multiplayer ive gotten to like 1 year or so

Animals are gonna be such a great additions

from making the world feel alive, and not like you are the only living thing, even in multiplayer

[indigo bane]

exactly

[tawdry gull]

to farming and hunting and so much great stuff

[hollow pasture]

I just want to lead a sheep army to fight zombies

[silk thorn]

Dog army

Please

[indigo bane]

you know i don't like mods, i always play vanilla, but i swear i will download the first mod adding dogs

[hollow pasture]

If there are predators that’d be even better

[white marten]

I can't wait for goats

I want goats so bad. (i'm lactose intolerant)

[silk thorn]

If love to have pets to protect and monitor the base they could also protect the animals

From like predators

[white marten]

Herding dogs maybe? that would be rad.

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-dog-zomboid-suspicious-gif-10712400350108666363

[silk thorn]

Yeah that would be very cool

[tawdry gull]

oh my god, your a genius

[white marten]

And livestock guardians. Cats to keep control of rats.

[tawdry gull]

the solution to late game right there, dogs

because you cant stop playing or the dog will be forgotten

and if you die, who will feed the dog

[white marten]

Every good farm needs a dog

[indigo bane]

The reason i'm believing in this game ->

https://tenor.com/view/negativo-gif-24526837

[tawdry gull]

livestock guardian

[white marten]

I hope irrigation becomes part of vanilla though.

[silk thorn]

It would also make cool stories

[hollow pasture]

Will I be able to fight a bear while naked with a rolling pin in the new update though

[tawdry gull]

would be super interesting to have foxes added and try get into the chickens

[white marten]

Once bears are added - sure.

[silk thorn]

They are adding raccoons

So foxes could be a thing

[white marten]

Racoons too. Oppossums! So many animals that can be added.

[earnest stirrup]

Would be cool but I doubt it, at least at the begininning

[latent mulch]

damm chat is going crazy

[tawdry gull]

could be interesting

[indigo bane]

what if they add creepers

[silk thorn]

🤯

[latent mulch]

yessss, my beloveds

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/creeper-aw-man-gif-23408292

[tawdry gull]

i would be very confused lol

[white marten]

You just KNOW someone is going to make that a mod.

[tawdry gull]

walking around and i hear the hiss

[hollow pasture]

This is what happens when a ginger doesn’t tell us no in one day

[silk thorn]

There's bloaters or whatever the exploding zombies are 😭

[hollow pasture]

Boomers?

[latent mulch]

YEAH

Creeper? oooohhh mann

[silk thorn]

I don't know 😭

[mortal kernel]

they are in the form of game meta event like helicopter, can't see them but they will go for your chickens

[latent mulch]

what about pidgeons and lil birds

would be nice to see them around

specially with the existing bird traps

they added the rabbits for the other traps, so they gotta add bird for the bird traps too

[silk thorn]

Mods will definitely add alot of more animals with the new update

[latent mulch]

yes

Mo'Creatures when?

[tawdry gull]

hopefully they wont be too difficult to mod

[silk thorn]

Yeah 😅

[white marten]

Mo'Creatures is actually a good mod name for more animals lol

[latent mulch]

snakessss

[latent mulch]

Hehe yess, it's from a minecraft mod

[silk thorn]

Soul filchers animal time

[white marten]

Sadly Soul Filcher is a dev now, so I doubt they will make more mods.

[silk thorn]

Oh he is wow

Good for him

[indigo bane]

also now they're adding light propagation and deep darkness i want thunderstorm

https://tenor.com/view/thunder-dark-nature-lightning-gif-15030790

[silk thorn]

Are blizzards a thing in 41

[latent mulch]

yes

they're really scary

[white marten]

Thunderstorms too

iirc

[latent mulch]

yeap

[silk thorn]

I can't wait for the new lore and stuff

[latent mulch]

YEAHH SO MANY FLYERS N STUFF

I wanna collect all of them

[silk thorn]

I watched a video about it and it was really interesting

I'm a big collector

Same

[hollow pasture]

I’m just gonna be glad that I can actually do a stealth play through and not be forced into the “thin the herd” strat each time

[tawdry gull]

you just reminded me of the new lighting

[orchid wolf]

That does this mean?

[tawdry gull]

all the features are going to be crazy good

even things as simple as being able to fully clean up a house

[earnest stirrup]

Nice idea

[indigo bane]

the best feature imo

[silk thorn]

Its gonna be soooo good Im so hypeddd

[hollow pasture]

The revamp to zombie detection and stuff makes stealth more viable than it is currently

[latent mulch]

YEEES that video was so good and satisfying

[silk thorn]

Skyscraper bases with friends will be so fun

[orchid wolf]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

[tawdry gull]

i dont think i can fully understand how influential the new crafting will be

[latent mulch]

can't wait for a parachute mod

[silk thorn]

Yesss that would be sick to glide through the city

[earnest stirrup]

This make sense, I think basament base make less sense.

A easy way to be a rat trapped

[silk thorn]

I hope we can like look down on to the street

[hollow pasture]

How are they gonna render things at that height though

[silk thorn]

I wonder how visibility will work from that high

[white marten]

I mean - one entry point, and I assume they won't be able to easily hear you. Can be beneficial.

[hollow pasture]

Cause rn if you’re at build height it’s a lot of black past a chunk or so

[indigo bane]

look at this improvement of current map

[silk thorn]

So cool :0

[latent mulch]

MHMMHM

[silk thorn]

More tiles yipee

[white marten]

To be fair - the left is closer to what I'm use to seeing in KY LMAO. But I do like the new buildings so much more.

[silk thorn]

Zomboid is beautiful

[tawdry gull]

And the new map improvements

I want a settlement in the wild west town too

[silk thorn]

Have you seen the build 100 meme lol where there's rtx and stuff

[earnest stirrup]

If that fence are tall could be a good base

[hollow pasture]

Yes

[versed venture]

Coward for not putting the zombified moodle in the list

[silk thorn]

I like the style it is rn but imagine if it did look that realistic

So laggy

Does anyone know what the new towns are called

[orchid wolf]

One is brandonville I think

[indigo bane]

https://youtu.be/t0ey-ZNv8PA the light is amazing

[white marten]

My guess - Irvington.

[orchid wolf]

Would be cool to finally get Fort Knox in b42

[tawdry gull]

i like the confidence

[indigo bane]

also this

[tawdry gull]

player sounds, another very small detail but i feel like will make the characters feel more alive

[silk thorn]

Custom voices will be so cool

[white marten]

I grew up in the area - looking at the map project (which already somehow has the map data for the new area at least partially) the new area to the south looks like Irvington to me.

[silk thorn]

I wonder how the npcs will talk will we get zomboidlish like the sims? 😭

Or just like grunting

[tawdry gull]

yeah i saw the map too, think it might be there on the actual pz map atm

B41

[indigo bane]

good question, but i guess when NPCs will come to the game, there will be good progress with voice synthesis @silk thorn

[white marten]

I doubt it but I haven't tried to find out yet lol

[tawdry gull]

thats a really interesting point

[orchid wolf]

That would be interesting

[white marten]

I mean voice synthesis is already pretty dang good.

[tawdry gull]

voice generation is already really impressive but in a few years it will be even better

[indigo bane]

yeee

[silk thorn]

Ai voice technology

[compact shadow]

wait, there's more than one new town in b42?

[orchid wolf]

Yes

[indigo bane]

yeeee @compact shadow

[orchid wolf]

And new locations, bunkers

[silk thorn]

I'd say at least 2 or 3

[mild orchid]

7:45 pm.

[tawdry gull]

the possibilities for zomboid are endless

[compact shadow]

very nice

[indigo bane]

also there is procedural generation of forest so it's kinda infinite (not infinite but really large) @compact shadow

[tawdry gull]

me, a bunker and some farm animals

[indigo bane]

no more black border

[silk thorn]

Its the game of the decade id say that's my opinion

[orchid wolf]

CHICKEN BUNKER

[compact shadow]

eh, great for wilderness players i suppose

how would that work for zombie migration though?

[tawdry gull]

i meant they were above ground, but that too

[indigo bane]

Yes also for maps expansion coming from mods @compact shadow

[orchid wolf]

Oops

[white marten]

Iirc there's also some secrets on the new expansions too?

[silk thorn]

I wanna build my own bunker

[abstract oak]

Aliens cursed corn fields using an ouija table

[indigo bane]

I love it

[silk thorn]

Is this official 😭

[compact shadow]

dev in thread i repeat dev in thread

thank you for your service

[white marten]

He's been popping in and out just to give us a false sense of hope.

[orchid wolf]

Hell yeah

[tawdry gull]

This is cannon, someone write this down

[silk thorn]

Its canon now guys

[tawdry gull]

Its because he has nothing left to work on which means

B42 sooner

[compact shadow]

imagine if the animals coming in b42 make a decent horse mod feasible

[frank igloo]

or because it’s sunday

[silk thorn]

The problem is

Making animals rideable

Which could be possible with grapple tech

[white marten]

Heck yea, we're doing good!

[silk thorn]

Eat a bunch of lard

[orchid wolf]

Wdym we have a great horse mod already

[compact shadow]

3 days and only 13 zombies killed?

[silk thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-horse-gif-10664029143539029928

[orchid wolf]

He loves drinking gasoline

[white marten]

...Have you ever played very underweight and weak before? That shit is hard.

[compact shadow]

i tend to play underweight and strong

[indigo bane]

creepy

[abstract oak]

It is either that or demons went back in time and injected squirrels with the next millenium virus

[silk thorn]

THE LORE IS EXPANDING

[orchid wolf]

I can’t believe this

[compact shadow]

anything you say will be interpreted as official lore

[indigo bane]

i need a movie

[silk thorn]

HAHAHAHAH

[tawdry gull]

the plot thickens!

[white marten]

Not PZ lore - but I really like the idea of zombie viruses being parasites that feed on blood and/or protein.

[quiet imp]

no one likes squirrels, inject me with the alien corn virus lore

[orchid wolf]

The presence of demons means Jesus is around right????

[silk thorn]

Jesus zomboid

[tawdry gull]

wdym jesus is around lol, like walking with us

[orchid wolf]

Yes

Drink a beer with Jesus

[tawdry gull]

thats the logical conclusion, cant argue with that

[silk thorn]

I'll laugh my ass off if that's actually the real lore 😭

[tawdry gull]

Please yes

[silk thorn]

It would be funny if like on the radio the crazy people said that

[tawdry gull]

lol

[compact shadow]

the day b42 comes out will become a public holiday

[silk thorn]

Zomboid day 🥲

[indigo bane]

idc, the moment b42 comes out, i leave my office and go home playing, public holiday or not @compact shadow

[tawdry gull]

we were talking about voice generation in zomboid, but it would be so cool for unique bits of tv, or talking to survivors over the radio etc

[compact shadow]

i sure hope that won't happen, no way it wouldn't be uncanny as hell

[silk thorn]

Yesss like what if you got messages from people

Like 60 seconds and stuff

[tawdry gull]

im thinking a better version of what they had in the one U5 matrix game where you could talk to people on the street

that'd be so cool

[compact shadow]

me no likey

[silk thorn]

The things they could do are crazy

[tawdry gull]

next level immersion lol

[silk thorn]

I wonder how dialogue will work

[tawdry gull]

even more uncanny would be finding actual survivors that alk

[tawdry gull]

im imagining you can use voice or text

we are already planning B45 for the devs lol

[silk thorn]

Or maybe like telltale with choice based

[compact shadow]

does that really feel very zomboid to you

[silk thorn]

Yeah

Its a sandbox game

[tawdry gull]

im thinking with voice generation its full on unique conversation

[silk thorn]

Yes

They would have to learn lots of ai and stuff

[tawdry gull]

no preset answers, just things like predisposed answers that they favor

[silk thorn]

I wonder if we will have social skills like charisma and stuff to determine the responses

[tawdry gull]

100% but lets wait untill we hear about B57 release before we get too into this idea

[silk thorn]

Because if you just are a really good talker you could get basically get any npc to do anything for you

[orchid wolf]

Do yall think they train an ai model for the chickens and animals?

[silk thorn]

I'm going to deep into this 😭

[compact shadow]

what exactly do you mean by an ai model

[tawdry gull]

have they, no. will they, not sure probably not

[orchid wolf]

To do basic actions

[compact shadow]

what do you mean by "ai model" though?

[latent mulch]

"You're a chicken, pretend you're a chicken right now and you're having a conversation with me about taxes, what would a chicken say?"

"Có-Cóooo"

[orchid wolf]

Ai model is like a big complex script for “thinking” and stuff

[compact shadow]

and what gameplay benefit would that have

[silk thorn]

That would only be good for human npcs

And maybe pets

[orchid wolf]

I’m just asking a question man, not trying to be interrogated

[tawdry gull]

nah zomboid will pioneer the true artificial intelligence industry just to make a chicken with the mental capacity for complicated thought, speech and moral quandaries, just to not let it talk

[compact shadow]

im just saying

[cursive violet]

I mean I can see it if it makes the animal and NPC ai work better

[orchid wolf]

I get it, I just put it out there for thought really

[raw yarrow]

you dont need to train an AI model for that, you can just write a basic AI using state machines or something like that

[silk thorn]

I hope we can craft metal armor and stuff

[compact shadow]

exactly my thoughts

people are kind of getting overhyped on LLMs

[latent mulch]

i do want a fully functional realistic chicken

would be fun

[orchid wolf]

It wouldn’t be an llm

[tawdry gull]

think you can, or something akin to it

[latent mulch]

20 messages to 12k

[silk thorn]

Damn

[tawdry gull]

hear me out, fully fledged surgery in pz

[silk thorn]

Please yes that would be cook

[compact shadow]

now that i could get behind

[latent mulch]

yesss

[late jackal]

Sorry. I opened Discord and it was the first thing I saw

[tawdry gull]

i could see it being a big reason to actually have good medical skills

[silk thorn]

That would be only multiplayer though?

[tawdry gull]

even more for mp

[tawdry gull]

mostly probably but theres some surgery you can do on yourself

[orchid wolf]

We need to find a real doctor to do surgery in this game

[silk thorn]

Surgery on yourself would be terrifying lol

[tawdry gull]

yeah it is

[compact shadow]

a doctor in antarctica performed an appendectomy on himself

[tawdry gull]

point and case

how clean your enviroment playing into chance of infection

[silk thorn]

I'll be back

[tawdry gull]

accidentaly leaving a pair of scissors inside the patient etc lol