WhatZ Next

[high copper]

10k yippeeee

[indigo bane]

centuries

[frank igloo]

10K !! TIMES TO RELEASE THE B42 THING !!! @devs

[long ore]

👆

[high copper]

My date today got canceled bc the roads r iced over let's go devs chop chop 🙏🙏🙏 let me get some action at least somewhere. even if it's via beating zombies up

[indigo bane]

You think it's easy. You think they don't want to give it to you ? But there are mountains

[high copper]

Big fan of mountains

I saw one once 👍

[indigo bane]

Tall ?

[unreal sentinel]

20%...

[high copper]

Yeah it was fairly tall

[fallow garnet]

It's releasing tomorrow at 2 am CMT

[indigo bane]

What is CMT lul

i know UTC, GMT

[high copper]

Central..... mountain time

Time zone from the peak. Bc of all the people up there

[indigo bane]

i got u

[high copper]

The peak of The Mountain

[eager wyvern]

Inb4 it is Central European Mountain Time

[indigo bane]

Central Everest Moutain Time

[fiery pine]

I can't tell which timezones are real or made up

[high copper]

Getting a little tired of waiting guys should I doordash olive garden. maybe by the time it'll get here b42 will drop

hold on when will the devs add olive garden to pz? are they stupid?

[fiery pine]

Fly down to the pz hq and steal the password for the test branch

[high copper]

Ok 👍 I'll do that

guys the password is "zombies." did no one seriously try it

[fiery pine]

🫡 thank you compadre

[indigo bane]

i tried it a hundred time

(read with Amy Winehouse voice)

[ancient hazel]

So back when people were waiting on build 41 to come out someone posted a video on the reddit of trying to guess the password to the build. the devs had to come out and tell people to stop trying to do that

[finite turtle]

pat said its 40 digits so i think if u got ai to solve it , it would take like centuries lol

[white marten]

Odds are the password is something completely random, as in a generated password.

[orchid wolf]

Fair enough

[ancient hazel]

oh yeah, thats what it was. the dude was bassically just mashing buttons on his keybord

[obtuse wasp]

yeah, because steam doesnt like brute forcing

in the best case they just disable your IP for the steam service, in the worst case your entire account

[high copper]

Zomboid7595726502874927402736395061696969420 is the password. I just knew it off the top of my head

40 digits long, no need to thank me

[junior arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-27464430

pat rn

[stable bison]

Anyone tried "password" yet?

[remote coyote]

You're not gonna be able to guess the password

[indigo bane]

this

you better speculate about the date, you won't waste your time

[white marten]

Do you guys not take a day off?

[finite turtle]

i dont allow them to

[stable bison]

The developers long for the mines.

[ember crane]

Newspapers and flyers

[remote coyote]

At least 4 of them was me testing fixes to Jenkins pipeline configuration, don't get excited

[ember crane]

They always get excited

[indigo bane]

CI is really exciting

[remote coyote]

My cat trying to steal cream off the top of my bubble tea is exciting

[finite turtle]

isnt this the only thing you've done (not tryna be rude at all i know lore is ur specialty)

[frank igloo]

guys they do mptesting because the unstable branch is already ready to be released so they already moved on !!

[indigo bane]

stop this interview for your tiktok @finite turtle

[remote coyote]

No

[frank igloo]

yes

[indigo bane]

Maybe not

[frank igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-sad-awkward-the-gif-18411961

please just tell me it'll be released in february only so i stop waiting but you release it this month so i didnt wait and i can enjoy

[indigo bane]

it will actually be released in 2674 so you have all the time to not get excited

[frank igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/monkewait-gorilla-eating-meme-monke-siegemonkewait-gorilla-wait-gif-22185671

[limpid pond]

where do you find this?

[remote coyote]

When it's ready

[indigo bane]

steamdb

[limpid pond]

ahh ok ty

[indigo bane]

but do not overthink what you will see there, otherwise you will get crazy

[remote coyote]

I'm building mp again because I'm still trying to debug Jenkins

[late jackal]

That's absurd enough to be shown in parody media. At some point, you should just add that as an in-game VHS movie that reduces unhappiness.

[remote coyote]

Don't get excited when you see it pop again

[latent storm]

Pretty sure America is more 'The Land of the Rising Gun'

[pallid onyx]

Oh

[indigo bane]

we'll try to get the word out

[covert ibex]

if a dog did this to me i'd chug some bleach tbh

[native bronze]

looks like it has something in its mouth. don't take it personally

[rancid moss]

Sorry fellas it doesn’t seem like it’ll be today

What time did B41 come out? The actual time

[white marten]

It's Steamdb.info

[orchid wolf]

Do you have a favorite one you’ve made so far? Or do you prefer writing one over the other?

[hollow pasture]

10/16/2019 at 8:18 AM is when the blog for its release was put out, so probably very close to around there

[rancid moss]

I gather it’ll be the same for B42

[hollow pasture]

Probably, but it could be anytime during the day

Likely earlier

[rancid moss]

Aye. Agreed.

Todays my Monday so I’ll be working the next few days

[limber idol]

Same

[rancid moss]

I pray that its release lines up with my days off

[limber idol]

Thankfully I get off at 1:30 the next couple of days

[white marten]

Steamdb marks legacy 40 was released at around 9:00 AM UTC

[rancid moss]

Gonna have me looking like squidward when he’s watching SpongeBob and Patrick from his window

[stable bison]

If I recall, it's usually day after release that they put out the blog.

[limber idol]

Same

[obtuse wasp]

there's a dedicated team on MP

[rancid moss]

When it comes out I’m streaming it in the PZ vc cata

I’m glad there won’t be MP tbh. Sure it’s a drag but too much too soon is never good

[limber idol]

Make a channel called B42 Drop Party

[rancid moss]

Esp for a small dev team

[obtuse wasp]

will there be "regional" stories? so stuff that only pops up in very specific chunks/cells?

[pallid onyx]

All day all night?

[rancid moss]

If it drops on my days off yeah

I’ll put it in writing too 🤣

[pallid onyx]

That's cool

[rancid moss]

Illl buy one of those stool things so I just go to the restroom at my desk

Catheter installed too

[limber idol]

Neet life

[rancid moss]

The whole nine

Lmao to think there are some dudes like that amaze me

[limber idol]

Get a bunch of those shakes from Wall-E lined up on your desk

[rancid moss]

Lol

Ngl they look like they’d smack. I think the director was onto smth

[limber idol]

Slop in a cup?

To be fair that would make a funny mod

[rancid moss]

Is that it is?

[limber idol]

I would assume so, did you see how fat they were in that movie? Probably more to it than just lack of exercise. That and the fact none of them knew what a plant was.

[rancid moss]

You can’t tell me that wasn’t a commentary on where we’re headed as a species

[white marten]

That's what the steamdeck is for though, so you can game on the toilet.

[rancid moss]

Game n go

Is PZ on steam deck tho

[limber idol]

Iirc yeah

That's just what I've seen people say though. I don't own a deck so I don't know for sure

[rancid moss]

Is steam deck worth? It’s basically a handheld console right like a Ds or smth lol

Me neither

Is a switch considered a handheld or home console? Not the lite version. The full one

[limber idol]

From my understanding it's a powerful Switch

[obtuse wasp]

steamdeck is effectively a more portable laptop with steamOS installed, lol

[rancid moss]

Yeee that’s what I was gonna ask

Interesting. I never hear a lot of info about it. Probably bc most users would have seen or heardby other pc users

It’s not like a PlayStation or Xbox

[latent mulch]

curious to see what ron has to say

ron has been typing for quite a while now

[umbral nymph]

One of the devs confirmed 42 will release before Christmas

[rancid moss]

Bruh

If everything goes well yes. They did say they don’t see this going over the new year

Which is fantastic news

[umbral nymph]

This was just a few hours ago

[indigo bane]

where

[umbral nymph]

I'll give you a hint. Most recent VOD of a popular zomboid youtuber

[snow nimbus]

Link please 🔗

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/link-legend-of-zelda-toon-link-loz-loz-link-gif-8142374963901109198

[obtuse wasp]

that is not a source

[native bronze]

if only scientific papers strived for such references

[obtuse wasp]

as long as its not on the official social media channels or in the blog, do not take it for gospel

[umbral nymph]

Not official but they seemed very excited about the release.

[indigo bane]

i don't take the gospel for gospel so

ez

[indigo bane]

who is he ?

[umbral nymph]

She.

[indigo bane]

ok i know

now

[snow nimbus]

😷

[sonic lily]

Who?

[buoyant forum]

🧑‍⚕️

[sonic lily]

im not really up too date on the zomboid youtubers i must admit!

I do really am gonna need a name or a handle so i can look it up

[buoyant forum]

"Nurse"

[indigo bane]

Nurse @sonic lily

[sonic lily]

thank youuuu!!

[indigo bane]

however i can't find the source on her channel

[finite turtle]

thats not an acutal source of

[empty summit]

hes trolling all of u btw

[indigo bane]

the devs are trolling us, why would you help them

[umbral nymph]

No troll.

[empty summit]

Troll.

[vivid apex]

Im ngl I need to know because it was never addressed,

Will pipebomb detonators/sensors work in multiplayer in b42

they dont work in b41 multplayer, even now

[native bronze]

no link no balls

[empty summit]

there is no link he trolling

[native bronze]

the cipher also said "sometime in december" so it wouldn't be anything new tbf

[white marten]

I'm not sure Nurse even has a VODs channel.

[empty summit]

Every youtube video is a vod xd

video-on-demand

[native bronze]

but I still take the blog more seriously than something a dev might have done tongue in cheek

[indigo bane]

https://www.youtube.com/@NurseVO/videos

[white marten]

Those aren't really VODs thoguh, they're edited videos

[indigo bane]

true

[empty summit]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-huh-dog-gif-9454444978823724629

[ember crane]

NO

[finite turtle]

pat_bren crashout

crazy to think you're 58

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/catjam-gif-10178102486865202192

[latent mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-ragnarok-kratos-kratos-no-nope-gif-27160145

[ember crane]

There's one with a PZ version of a world leader of the time that makes me lol

[tawny quarry]

pat's older than my dad would've been by 6 years

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-god-of-pain-god-of-war-kratos-god-of-war-god-of-pain-god-of-suffering-of-destruction-a-god-of-war-a-god-of-pain-of-suffering-of-destruction-gif-17973929079358868857

[ember crane]

Unfortunately not, our lore will be broken as wrong date newspapers will spawn anywhere and any time. It's not a big enough issue to delay the build or anything.

[latent storm]

OK that's good to know in advance

[snow nimbus]

Nope. delay it - shows over folks, go home

https://tenor.com/view/kappa-smile-gif-14040974

[obtuse wasp]

yeah, i absolutely understand that, but looking forward to collecting newspapers

[latent storm]

90% of the time you'll receive all the lore stuff after everything has played out anyway

But it will be nice to have that consistency in the future

[broken trench]

and food expires quickly, you can’t preserve anything

[white marten]

Food preservation is in B41

[tawny quarry]

i'l cover the floor with newspapers so whenever i'm bored i can just read the ground.

[obtuse wasp]

its also nice to know that such a system will exists at some point, especially if modders/mappers get their hands on it, maybe some hidden notes that indicate secret basements with gun stashes, the likes

[snow nimbus]

like off the grid bases? cause we already have annotated maps that do exactly this

[obtuse wasp]

yeah, but they can sent you anywhere, you can find a map in riverside and have it point at something in LV

[frank igloo]

is it nurse ?

[snow nimbus]

allegedly, I didn't find anything and they provided no link

[obtuse wasp]

imagine looting a police station and finding info on someone hoarding weapons, specifically in the city you are in

[snow nimbus]

true

[umbral nymph]

Yes

[latent storm]

Fellas, they said it would release before Christmas and would let us know if it won't

So far, no news is good news

[frank igloo]

was it on her latest stream on lethal company ?

[mortal kernel]

exactly, poeple still don't see this

[snow nimbus]

I ❤️ TIGS

[umbral nymph]

Yep

[frank igloo]

FOUND IT

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2326093969?filter=archives&sort=time

starting 32:10

thank you @umbral nymph

[mortal kernel]

yeah Baphclass told them it's comming before Christmas

[snow nimbus]

Best present you could get for a Zomboid lover tbh

Second best would be a spiffo plushie

❤️

[mortal kernel]

but nothing new we didn't already know

[snow nimbus]

true

[mortal kernel]

so nothing new under the sun

[latent mulch]

but it's news from yesterday

[frank igloo]

so it's probably coming out next week

[obtuse wasp]

yeah but you know what peopl are going to do with it

[latent mulch]

só they're still confidente it will release before christmas

[frank igloo]

they wouldn't release it on 23 or 24 i think

[obtuse wasp]

and what happens should something come up in the last second

[mortal kernel]

it's next week

[frank igloo]

i think 20 or 21

[mortal kernel]

no

[latent mulch]

yeah, 7 days

[mortal kernel]

time off for them as well

[latent mulch]

tops

[umbral nymph]

Yeah its not too crazy or anything but its nice to hear that its 'definitely before Christmas' and a delay seems very unlikely at this point.

[native bronze]

but good

[mortal kernel]

probably sooner

[frank igloo]

or maybe they'll release it early in the week to have some days to fix issues

and then go on vacation

[umbral nymph]

I think early next week, Monday or Tuesday

[frank igloo]

i'm so hype

[teal summit]

same here

i am really anxious for it

[frank igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-sad-awkward-the-gif-18411961

[mortal kernel]

now you sound more realistic

I agree with that

[mortal kernel]

thanks for the heads up with the vid

[native bronze]

honestly every TIS annoucement should be made in a crowded lethal company lobby

goofy ass animations crack me up every time

[umbral nymph]

They said in the last blog they want to leave themselves a window for patching

[mortal kernel]

same, I would dare to say Wednesday with a blog on Thursday to follow, just like b41

[frank igloo]

i think nasko said there wont be blog this month

[mortal kernel]

there must be some announcement, maybe not in the form of a dev blog

but some post will show up eventually

[teal summit]

maybe they will release it on monday, so that they will have a all week to hotfix any bugs that may occur that ruin the player experience (there is a difference between 30 poeple playing b42, and over 50000

game breaking bugs may occur where you least expect it

imagine posting on friday, and you go to rest, when you come back 2-3 days lates the whole comunity is pissed because they waited for 3 years for an update that took 2-3 years to develop that was found bugs an hour after release

and the devs were away to fix it

[snow nimbus]

it's not main branch release, should always expect bugs tbh - but people won't

[teal summit]

yeah

[mortal kernel]

major game breaking bugs are less likely at this stage with testing, not to rule out entirely but performance issues or crashes are common cause the game runs on 3 different operating systems

[teal summit]

saddly, because of how much time it took for them to cook the update, i bet 20% expect a fully functional and fully perfect update

[finite turtle]

holyyy shit the clip is real

baph said it here first guys its before christmas

[hardy wren]

Still means nothing.

[teal summit]

who is baph?

[frank igloo]

a dev

[finite turtle]

a developer

he usually only plays barotruama though

[native bronze]

crashes due to different systems are very likely

[teal summit]

based, i love that game lmao

saddly i am alone

[mortal kernel]

nah, he wouldn't say such a thing on live stream, not to mention on a very well known PZ player's stream

[native bronze]

Stationeers recently had to roll back an update cause windows 11 was messing up a game system loading files. The update was on an open beta branch but because few people where testing it, it didnt come up during beta.

[mortal kernel]

if he knew it wasn't showing up

he just strengthen the fact we were already told > before Christmas

[teal summit]

ye, its somethings that you cant have enought data, with such a small player testing group

[snow nimbus]

to be fair Windows 11 has been scuffing a lot of things lately

[teal summit]

there is a possibility that none of the 30 poeple have linux

or an amd gpu

ou intel

[snow nimbus]

Michael Soft

[native bronze]

I'm taking it with a grain of salt nonetheless. A dev may speak out of line

[hardy wren]

As someone who understands how development is done especially in a less rigid yet modest development environment. It wouldn't be unlikely for something to be discovered or something to happen to a key member.

I hope nothing happens though.

[teal summit]

or any, you can just get most of the common variables of the poeple that will experience the game with just 30 poeple

[native bronze]

or intel GPU crazy that we can build a decent pc with intel graphics and amd cpu now

[teal summit]

yeah lmao

10 years ago nvidia was better

hands down imo

but now a days?

not so much

[hardy wren]

Well, Nvidia has no reason to fuel gamers. Their focus is on ML.

Though it is not unlikely they might lose a gaming market by their clear neglect.

[teal summit]

yeah, the gpus are not for the same market anymore... if you want more frames per dolar, amd is the way to go

[native bronze]

nvidia always has some proprietary tech going for them. I remember PhysX made my pc crawl to a halt in borderlands 2 (was using AMD graphics at the time)

[orchid wolf]

That sounds sick man thanks for responding

[hardy wren]

Doesn't help that development slowed down, especially on smaller processes and the fact there are now more defects. So easy performance gains are not so easy anymore.

[snow nimbus]

I want a new GPU but I am holding off

[teal summit]

like frame generation ans such, but now a days you can get it on third party software

not worth buying a gpu just for it

[hardy wren]

I want also a new GPU, but even if I had the money for it, I wouldn't buy one now or even in the next-gen either.
For me, at the moment most value fast VRAM has. Fact most low-ends are stuck in 8GB just sucks.

[teal summit]

(exemple: Lossless Scale)

[teal summit]

true!

[native bronze]

yea, it's good for consumers that they can't hold ground with proprietary tech only

[teal summit]

one of the most reasons on why i would upgrade my gpu, is for vram ONLY

fps its satisfy me

i have 4gb vram

[hardy wren]

I have RTX 3070, I was happy with the card in every other aspect. But, I am not only doing gaming, so 8GB is not just enough.

[teal summit]

fair point, 3d modeling, you need WAY MORE, depending on the work

[snow nimbus]

I am still on a 1080, I was waiting for the RTX stuff to get better but then the prices of GPUs just kept going up

so now I am stuck

[teal summit]

me with my rx570

[snow nimbus]

and with the planned tarrifs on Canada it is just going to get so much worse

[snow nimbus]

😱 ❤️

[teal summit]

i belive the 1080 wins my rx in the benchmarks tho

altho mine is most cost effective i think

[hardy wren]

Not gonna lie, whole industry feels misdirected, coping on graphical fidelity only not even gameplay, despite most heavy-lifting in visual appeal comes from art style, no matter what era.

[teal summit]

also in watts

[teal summit]

true!

[snow nimbus]

💯 totally true, and it is sad to see

[snow nimbus]

I was lucky enough to get this card is under MSRP at a time when crypto mining was at it's height (for the time)

[teal summit]

even games like shadow of the colossus (ps2), it was really realistic for me, but when i looked closer it was just a big art style of the game that made me so immersed to belive it was realistic

like a big canvas, it gives the illusion of realism

if the game was pure "visual fidelity" it would just not be possible on that hardware

[hardy wren]

Half-Life 2 has a timeless direction. Even some simple geometry give feeling of unease beneath colorful colors and it looks "realistic" enough too (probably on CRTs it probably looked even more realistic)

[native bronze]

my head exploded when I saw the comparison of Gman from HL and HL2 side by side on a magazine. good times

[teal summit]

i think it was better in the ps2 era, because it was just impossible to be realist visually, but there was room for the cavas (aka, art style) of the game to shine

but maybe its jsut the bias talking lmao

[hardy wren]

To return the topic to PZ. Kinda wish there was a refinement of the PZ's art style in the day. Nights in B42 look beautiful and have an atmosphere, but the color direction in the day feels like there is missing something.

[stable bison]

I hope that they do very little in the way of graphics changes for PZ, so that people with potatoes as computers can still play it.

Especially as new games are overall less and less accessible.

[hardy wren]

We are talking about art direction not graphics fidelity. Though I very much understand the concern.

[mortal kernel]

it will be fully functional otherwise you can't play it but not perfect, that's for stable

[snow nimbus]

It's possible that the engine upgrades will help the potatoes out tbh

[mortal kernel]

or fry them

[snow nimbus]

Or fry them

[grizzled plank]

It lacks optimastion. Not simpler graphics

[snow nimbus]

🤣

Either way we get French fries

[mortal kernel]

:)))

aye !

[stable bison]

Don't fry the potatoes. You smash them, or boil them in a stew.

Speaking of which, potatoes, will they grow in all seasons?

[mortal kernel]

no

you can plant them using the vegetable itself

[deep wing]

Another PZ dev going kind of on the record about a release date when nobody expected it. This isn't ending well

[mortal kernel]

on the other hand, the realistic "seasons" can be disabled in sandbox

[stable bison]

I think I'll keep them, game goes on easy mode as it is. Did one of the Thursdoids mention new plants? Hoping for more fruits than just strawberries.

[mortal kernel]

yes

herbs

some winter growing crops, etc

[stable bison]

Wheat?

[mortal kernel]

I think so

barley flax hemp

[stable bison]

Good, wheat was always kind of weird that it wasn't there.

[mortal kernel]

everything that you would expect for oils, brewing, textiles

[stable bison]

I really want apple trees though.

[mortal kernel]

you have a mod for that

[stable bison]

True, but that mod won't work at release.

[mortal kernel]

xnerot farmable trees IIRC

[stable bison]

Oh, I prefer Sprout's Home and Gardens

Or Farming Time has them too I think

[mortal kernel]

nobody went on the record, he just stated what has been already stated > before Christmas

[mortal kernel]

soul filcher would be proud

[stable bison]

According to my divinations by opening a raven's entrails, it'll be out Monday.

[mortal kernel]

and if not?

[stable bison]

Then I'll cut open another raven, and see what it says.

[mortal kernel]

im guessing some 4-5 ravens will die

[stable bison]

The raven I cut open to see how many will die said less than 10.

Not sure if it included itself

[mortal kernel]

I don't know why the uncertainty ?

[native bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-armored-core-6-armored-core-vi-ac-ac6-gif-3421801719789836237

good luck opening ravens

[stable bison]

I mean, they're actually pidgeons, but I call them ravens.

[mortal kernel]

I have my cat for that problem

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-project-zomboid-pz-rumerz-youtube-gif-25035826

[tawny quarry]

i can't imagine how many messages the thread is going to have once b42 unstable gets released

[latent storm]

I won't be on the discord for a bit after release to avoid spoilers

[native bronze]

I'll try to find the orphanage without looking at the online map

[pulsar tinsel]

damn over 10k messages

idk what’s with the crazy growth lately even tho it’s less to talk about lol

[native bronze]

I wonder if these secret or long gone locations will have any items pointing to their location. It makes sense if they don't anyway

[finite turtle]

build 42 first person mode 🤑

[abstract oak]

I'm glad I'll be able to remove things from my mods for once!

[finite turtle]

gonna miss soul filcher mod packs

[teal summit]

i honestly will always pop back here until it releases

[ancient forum]

kinda like how gta 6 is being talked about again a ton, it’s just related to the fact that it’s coming towards the end of the year

[finite turtle]

loved farming time

[teal summit]

i cant contain my exitement

[pulsar tinsel]

i feel this but for my mod list in general

i HATE relying on huge mod lists. 600 mods is not a flex 😭

[abstract oak]

Maybe the mod pack won't be gone entirely, it really depends on what'sin them

[pulsar tinsel]

well they sure won’t be updated

[fallen phoenix]

leave me alone...

[native bronze]

cutting out your workload as a modder by becoming an official dev

[fallen phoenix]

not every mod feature is gonna make the cut 💔 which ig is fine i dont rly wanna piss in the video game

[finite turtle]

baph saying "build 42 is before this christmas" and "stay tuned" on nurse's stream is still crazy to me 😭 and on lethal company too

[native bronze]

lifehacks

[indigo bane]

Really ?

[latent storm]

Just a week yall

[finite turtle]

yes

[native bronze]

I love that mod

[latent storm]

A week or less

[fallen phoenix]

mods* theres like 3 that do it

[finite turtle]

10 days at most

[fallen phoenix]

will wright would be proud ig

[latent storm]

Yeah just being positive haha

[abstract oak]

Uhhhhh.... Okay?

[native bronze]

I only know excrementum

[latent mulch]

fellas im feeling suspicous

[fallen phoenix]

theres another one & lifestyle has that feature now too

[pulsar tinsel]

i wasnt saying saying anything bad just saying gonna be for b41 if they did wanna keep playing w it

[native bronze]

I'll have a look after 42. excrementum has some shortcomings imo

[fallen phoenix]

also i dont think its so bad to use a shitload of mods bc like... mods r cool? modding is cool? modders r cool? do we not appreciate what they do

[finite turtle]

we're going insane

[pulsar tinsel]

i just don’t like relying on mods for features i want

meaning if it was official it’s way better

[latent mulch]

COME ON ITS VERY SUSPICIOUS

[finite turtle]

huh

theyre working on b42 hows that suspicious

[pulsar tinsel]

it’s mainly a response to people getting mad at b42 and saying “all these are already in the game with mods!” which is just not a good thing

[fallen phoenix]

thats fair lol i feel like i would find a way anyway tho

[latent mulch]

the order of getoutofherefiltyspy and thesearetheendtimes

[finite turtle]

also like 90% of mods are very glitchy and dont feel polished

maybe thats just mod capabilities but

[pulsar tinsel]

and crazy unoptimized

some people have pz at like 60 gb bruh

[finite turtle]

two seperate terms working on two seperate projects

[fallen phoenix]

on the communitys part i think its cool the work thats been put into modding to make the game feel complete while the next build has been in progress for a few yrs

[finite turtle]

yeah i dont play with mods on any games usually, i like basic games and mods cause unstableness, lag, and no optimization. most games are just fine vanilla in my opinion

[fallen phoenix]

on the devs part i can respect that its taken a while to overhaul large parts of the game to make someth more coherent that players want

[indigo bane]

Never play with mod, maybe some QoL for the hud

[teal summit]

it would be crazy if they are slowly putting the update in the testing branch, and on the 20'th day, its the full build lmao

[latent storm]

I'm very picky with my mods, but luckily there are a plethora of great mods for almost every good game

[latent mulch]

nah they're 100% a clue i'm onto them

[native bronze]

mods are what keeps games alive for eons tho

[fallen phoenix]

see i am a sims player & half of those games r barely functional unless u use 100 mods. so naturally i use literally 20,000

[finite turtle]

sure

[latent storm]

Think of like Starstorm 2 for Risk of Rain 2 or Calamaty for Terraria

Those content mods are what I jive with

[finite turtle]

i agree yes but having a game that relies on mods is bad

[latent storm]

Bethesda games are a weird bunch when it comes to modding

[native bronze]

on content I disagree completely. If mods are necessary to fix fundamental issues, then I give you that point

[latent storm]

They're boring as shit but ppl love modding them

[fallen phoenix]

"relies on" rly doesnt mean anything tho

[finite turtle]

yeah its also silly how right now we need mods to just sit down in chairs. thankfully thats fixed in b42 though

[fallen phoenix]

some games need to be modded to launch, esp older ones. some ppl play games u see as janky completely vanilla

[latent storm]

I wouldn't say it's silly

Its not a vital feature

Which is where mods step in wonderfully

[fallen phoenix]

welcome to early access btw home of the literally advertised as incomplete games

[proven elbow]

i don't see what's 'silly' about something like that

it's a game in active development, with details on details on details; there are bound to be some things that might not be done yet

you also don't really 'need' mods for that, as though sitting chairs is something zomboid 'needs'

[pulsar tinsel]

the thing is, PZ doesn’t rely on mods to be a game that is worth it.

it relies on mods to be replayable

people forget that they got their $20 worth (or less) AGES ago and think everything that comes after should already be a thing. it’s early access on top of what we already have so that’s even better that we know it’s getting heavily worked on still

[proven elbow]

I don't even think zomboid needs mods to be replayable, there are tons of ways you can replay it

[pulsar tinsel]

well considering people usually get hundreds of mods once the vanilla is stale after hours, thats what i mean by replayable

[fallen phoenix]

sims players would eat u alive i swear

i was not exaggerating abt the 20,000 mods i was undershooting it for sure

the game is less of a factor than the time given to mod it tbh, its been a few yrs so we see more mods

[teal summit]

true

[fallen phoenix]

if we were in b41 for 20 yrs we would be seeing something incredible lol

but as it is modders r literally slowing down & taking breaks in anticipation of the new build

[native bronze]

see: STALKER SoC

[fallen phoenix]

so yeah i dont think 600 is egregious on its face, the performance impact is less than fun tho

[native bronze]

it's incredible to see what games that didn't have mods in mind have become with a dedicated community. Games that are made with modding in mind from the start are simply boundless by time

[fallen phoenix]

ya

post release is gonna be wild cos of complete vanilla features, mods will become more abt personal preference than extending gameplay or completing mechanics. & then its presumably gonna be on the same build forever so i can, in time, accumulate 20k more mods

maybe i will even make a few of them. be part of that beautiful 20k

[pulsar tinsel]

yk i always think about how trash Minecraft is on its own but is then also my favorite game because of everything else

[indigo bane]

Just like Rimworld adding kids, own mechanoid, etc

[pulsar tinsel]

like community, mods, servers, etc are what make mc good for me

[fallen phoenix]

i like vanilla mc. dont play it much tho

whats cool abt mc to me is feature backporting

im wondering if ppl r gonna end up doing that to b41

[indigo bane]

[fallen phoenix]

better not be doing this shit on a saturday GO HOME

[indigo bane]

update in 10 min

[woeful sparrow]

5 more days

No picture puzzle for a bonus day for the devs tho

[pallid onyx]

[deep wing]

how do you find this out

[teal summit]

where do i find these branches?

[native bronze]

they are named "depots" on steamdb

https://steamdb.info/app/108600/depots/

anything to fuel the mass psychosis

[latent mulch]

exactly

[teal summit]

i hope the game updates tomorrow

day 15, solid choice

a whole number

[robust shell]

malepreg testing???

😍

[native bronze]

🫃

[teal summit]

YES<<<< FINALY

[deep wing]

do you guys think b42 will break the player count record a million times over like B41 did?

[teal summit]

🫄

[teal summit]

Yeah

[robust shell]

[teal summit]

100% i belive

[robust shell]

stable release? maybe

[teal summit]

maybe when the new mp comes around

[robust shell]

new malepreg b42

[teal summit]

my predictions that will break the build 41 records 2 times

when unstable release, and when male preg releases

[latent mulch]

Definelly, I bet it will reach 100k now

[teal summit]

same

[indigo bane]

someone was testing Jenkins pipeline

[woeful sparrow]

What is that

[indigo bane]

it's like a tool/software for continuous deployment of artefacts

[fallen phoenix]

jfc over a third the "record break" u speak of is online right this second on a random saturday lmao

its gonna be huge

[indigo bane]

when you release, usually you don't compile locally, but you launch a build on Jenkins

each time they make an iteration of the game they build through jenkins

and 2 hours ago someone in the team was testing the pipeline of Jenkins for debbuging purpose

he used multiplayertesting branch

[fallen phoenix]

so its just making an online backup automatically or someth

[teal summit]

exactly

its going to break easily imo

[indigo bane]

think of it more as the compiler that will build the official game version for testing and later for public release

[bronze cedar]

Jenkins is used for every update, it doesn't need its pipeline tested

[stable bison]

Jenkins is a busy man. Shameful so many people make him work all the time.

I hope he gets a day off for Christmas.

[indigo bane]

i don't know, Kirrus said he was working on that @bronze cedar

[bronze cedar]

Jenkins is contractually obligated to work on Christmas

[stable bison]

Sounds to me that Jenkins needs to unionize.

[bronze cedar]

Good luck smh

[teal summit]

fair, so it proves the point i was making in my head that is just trying to tease us

poeple breathing throught copium

[bronze cedar]

Nothing is real

[teal summit]

what

[stable bison]

Incorrect, I'm real and the rest of you are a vivid hallucination.

[teal summit]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[stable bison]

Well sort of, as I said earlier, I'm actually the spirit of a 8th century Norsemen who got trapped in the trans-Atlantic cable when it was built, but that means that I'm sure I'm real.

[bronze cedar]

I get to work with a zeppelin that runs on copium

[teal summit]

i need that actually

i am sorry if your zeppelin accidently gets hotwired

and accidently disapears into my backyard

[latent storm]

Has there ever been a zeppelin hijacking before in history

[fallen phoenix]

i hope so

[latent storm]

Because if not we need to rectify this now

[white marten]

nasKo said zeppelins - confirmed new feature for b43?

[teal summit]

nah

i will be making history TONIGHT

[fallen phoenix]

tried looking it up but found a more important question

[vernal folio]

So copium is more buoyant than air? In other words, there is both high hopes and something in the air? In other words, you're expecting something and it's right around the corner? In other words, B42 unstable tonight?

[latent storm]

What is the answer

[fallen phoenix]

no ):

[teal summit]

( i searched and basically zeppeling were only used for raids )

no one had the balls to do it

[teal summit]

poeple get high with cope

[stable bison]

But did the dog survive the Titanic?

More importantly, did the cat survive the Titanic?

[teal summit]

@stable bison

[stable bison]

Very good, but what about the cats?

[covert ibex]

If we’re being logical

It’s gonna launch next week on Thursday

[fallen phoenix]

no ):

[latent storm]

We can always trust the ai source for sure

[fallen phoenix]

assuming there was a cat, apparently

im looking at actual webbed sites basically saying if there was a cat then no

[stable bison]

There had to be a cat on the titanic. At least one.

All ships have cats, it's how they're powered.

[fallen phoenix]

tru tru

[latent mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-toast-infinite-energy-energy-cat-toast-gif-12008595251531469256

[minor jay]

I'm here...

For my dose of copium... 💉

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[stable bison]

Take this, and call me in the morning: "A guy in this thread said that based on what a Youtuber said that a developer may have told them said that the update would be out on Monday."

[ripe garden]

is build 42 out yet

[vernal folio]

No

[white marten]

I can pretend it is though with enough mods.

[tawny quarry]

you can also gaslight youself into thinking you're playing it

[white marten]

So I was reading the upcoming features for b42 page on the website and... Does this mean NPCs are confirmed b43?

[orchid wolf]

They’re adding advanced chicken ai in b43 so they can drive cars and shoot guns

[white marten]

Makes sense

[indigo bane]

yes

i mean

animals are the first step toward NPC

i do not know what we have at the end of the first stage of NPC

[orchid wolf]

I better be able to put a cool hat and sunglasses on a cow

[robust shell]

never knew Poland was already in Build 41

🇮🇩

[indigo bane]

also guys i saw that on a dev blog

[robust shell]

mining,,?

[indigo bane]

are we going to be able to melt jewels ?

[indigo bane]

they talked about that in a dev blog

[orchid wolf]

That would be so cool

[indigo bane]

wait

"With the last Thurzdoid some people arrived at the mistaken impression that in normal b42 play, iron ore deposits would be the primary or only source of metal for crafting. While we’re not ruling this out in the long term, and it’ll certainly be the only source of metal to be found within the wilderness map (more on this later), the primary logical source of metal would always initially be found within the now abandoned civilized world itself."

also i think these deposit will be developped with the multiplayer version

and are not present in the first unstable release

[gaunt phoenix]

Imo being able to smelt your own ore is only useful for challenge runs or challenge maps

[indigo bane]

or multiplayer

[gaunt phoenix]

Theres that much metal we use in our everyday life that if the world ended tomorrow we'd have enough to last us hundreds of years

Eh I mean even with multiplayer, theres that much metal already

[white marten]

It's meant to make it sustainable over long-term play

A server that's been going for a few years will definitely be lacking metal.

[gaunt phoenix]

Idk about that man

[snow nimbus]

From what we know the plan has been to add very basic AI to animals in B42 and then implement behavioral tech tree AI in B43 for Human NPCs (and some animals?)

[gaunt phoenix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution#:~:text=In 1750 charcoal iron production,cast iron was 250%2C000 tons.

[indigo bane]

look

[snow nimbus]

Obviously things can change but that was the plan

[gaunt phoenix]

If you go to the Iron Industry area it gives you an idea of how much iron we have now compared to before the industrial revolution

[indigo bane]

“One conceit of b42 crafting is that you should be able to start on a theoretical all forest map; this isn’t a concrete thing that we’re testing yet, but we’re providing foundation for it. Steel production from nothing being one of them.”

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah, for that it's useful

But the base map will have more than enough for decades of playtime

[indigo bane]

just imagine starting on a server where everything is already looted

[gaunt phoenix]

Maybe more if you can remelt stuff like cooking utensils etc.

[indigo bane]

you could just go in the forest

[gaunt phoenix]

For that I agree it'd be useful yeah

Im assuming thats what the Many Years Later map they're making is gonna be about

[indigo bane]

"Once you have smashed them into iron ore, you can dig a charcoal pit, and build a primitive forge and furnace, and use the charcoal to extract an iron bloom from iron ore.“

“With a stone hammer and some crude wooden tongs (which won’t survive the process) workable iron is beaten out of the iron bloom, and that iron can be used to produce simple iron implements such as tongs, smithing hammers, nails, and basic masonry tools.”

that's amazing

[gaunt phoenix]

Anyway yeah, base map I don't think it'll ever be a viable alternative of smelting iron ore. Like, the amount of railway sleepers on the map is insane. And the iron is higher quality than any you could smelt yourself

Idk what it'll look like but it would make sense for smelting ore to yield less iron than stuff like cooking pots or railway sleepers

[indigo bane]

when i look at these pictures, i'm so hyped

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah me too, it looks very good

[gaunt phoenix]

I don't know much about the other stuff they're adding but I'm a blacksmith and I've worked using medieval techniques like using a stump anvil and only relying on charcoal and 90% of whats getting added is good and makes sense

[indigo bane]

Also indeed they talked about scavenging being the primary source of iron as you said @gaunt phoenix

[gaunt phoenix]

The 10% I have a feeling has gotten changed since those pictures got released in the devblog

[indigo bane]

"With the last Thurzdoid some people arrived at the mistaken impression that in normal b42 play, the iron ore deposits would exist on the map and be the primary source of metal for crafting. While we’re not ruling this out in the long term, and it’ll certainly be the only source of metal to be found within the wilderness map (more on this later), the primary logical source of metal would always initially be found within the now abandoned civilized world itself."

[gaunt phoenix]

One 10% thing which isn't too good is the forge setup in that picture

It might look good on paper but having tried stuff like that in the past irl using stones it just doesn't work. That forge design aswell doesn't make alot of sense either

The medieval forge they made and the portable hand-crank forge is very good though

[orchid wolf]

Become caveman!!!

[indigo bane]

but the deposit will only be located in the wilderness map (aka the procedural generated part of the map)

[snow nimbus]

I am excited to eventually do a primmy playthrough with friends

[indigo bane]

yes indeed, i watched some video about medieval forge

[snow nimbus]

I told them when B41 MP came out that that was the direction I figured they would head and they all told me I was silly 😜

Jokes on them

[indigo bane]

Do you think modern metalworking will be part of the first release ?

[broken trench]

What would come in build 44

[indigo bane]

i dunno

[tawny quarry]

golden machete made out of looted golden rings from zombies

[pallid onyx]

What would come in build 48

[ebon wind]

Poland

[latent mulch]

aw i wanted to say that

[ebon wind]

Gotta be faster than that teha

[snow nimbus]

I love the polish

[eager wyvern]

Sun Yat Sen is not a dog name I would expect from a sinking Titanic.

[eager wyvern]

More animals and more freeform / free-roaming navigation in Stage 1. Stage 2 is probably where human NPCs will get introduced. And then Stage 3 is where human NPCs become more interactive / more procedural and stuffs.

My guess.

[orchid wolf]

Has this thursdoid set the record for most messages so far?

[strong inlet]

I think so

[fair pebble]

WHEN DID WE GET PAST THE 10K MESSAGES?

[high copper]

this morning lol

[strong inlet]

not that long ago but YIPPEEEEEE

[fair pebble]

How?

Last time I checked this post we had less than 5k messages

[high copper]

i think people sent more messages

[strong inlet]

Granted most of the comments said in this thursdoid is probably people joking about if build 42 is out

[high copper]

👍

[high copper]

here you go

[quiet imp]

fuck yea

do we know what the differences between expanded vs limited crafting is?

[indigo bane]

@quiet imp it just mean the first release will not contain all the tech trees

[quiet imp]

ty, what page is this info from?

[indigo bane]

this one, it may have changed tho since i don't see metal smelthing on the last dev blog

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/108600/view/4266679397733536500?l=french

[quiet imp]

ty

[native bronze]

Will cutlery have a use now?

[uncut canopy]

11 days remain.

[high copper]

i dont remember what this one is

[ebon wind]

It's nightly

[high copper]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-mfw-patrick-bateman-willem-dafoe-christian-bale-gif-24990351

[native bronze]

it's a dev branch with the latest build

[orchid wolf]

John zomboid

[snow nimbus]

technically already does - if you eat a can of beans with a spoon as an example you will have a special animation vs if you just eat directly out of the can

[native bronze]

cool I didn't know that

[snow nimbus]

ye!! it is really cool, once I found that out I started carrying a spoon with me haha

[midnight plaza]

You guys basically act like this whenever there's the tiniest of updates on Steam DB

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-gif-13646267

[native bronze]

I just found it odd to not cut that part of crafting out since it seems "useless" as of now. So I'm wondering if cutlery will have a bigger part to play

unless they are putting knives under that category. Then it is objectively useful

[snow nimbus]

it might have a bigger part

eating with a fork +2 happiness

[high copper]

I was just curious.....

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-winnie-the-pooh-tigger-sad-disappear-gif-25009198

[urban shard]

my bet is on the 15th

Sunday, surely they won't release it during the week? right?

[snow nimbus]

To answer your question Nightly is a automated backup of the dev build (Dev build is Si) it is likely the build that the internal testers are playing as well

[high copper]

thanks!

[snow nimbus]

❤️

[obtuse wasp]

some new "crafting trees" from the rework will already be implemented

just not all of them

[mint flax]

like blacksmithing!

[obtuse wasp]

"blacksmithing"

so you'll most likely be able to craft weapons already, so you kinda need to get your hands on stuff to smelt

[white marten]

We basically get blacksmithing and pottery currently.

[obtuse wasp]

if i recall there were some more related to animals

nvm, butchery is coming later

[mint flax]

I mean it says blacksmith tech tree on there so i have hope itll be a pretty full feature on release

[fossil ivy]

B50 when

[pallid onyx]

Next century

[robust shell]

From a conversation yesterday

[eager wyvern]

when you re-enroll in college and are about to re-enroll into a grad program.

[pallid onyx]

lol

[eager wyvern]

Why anxiety has teeth?

[pallid onyx]

Great question

[fossil ivy]

I’ll have grand kids ah era?

[robust shell]

that face when you heard the chomp

[eager wyvern]

I didn't say you're getting married....

[fossil ivy]

I’ll teach my grandkids how to play project zomboid

[fossil ivy]

oh man. I have a girlfriend now tho

[robust shell]

Ig angry belongs to teeth

[pallid onyx]

Blud knows too much

[eager wyvern]

Oh wait, wrong reply EDIT: Ehhh, I'm leaving it....

[eager wyvern]

You're not supposed to know me too much.

[wide jungle]

I have tied all loose ends, I have prepared and ensured my body is ready for b42

[pallid onyx]

[pallid onyx]

I don't think you're ready yet

[wide jungle]

well im gonna send wife 1000km away in some days yes

but almost

[eager wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-my-body-is-ready-gif-my-body-is-ready-reggie-gif-26051134

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[midnight plaza]

You're not ready till you have sacrificed your firstborn to the Spiffo shrine

[wide jungle]

What if I never get firstborn, will Spiffo become my debt collector?

[livid iris]

NEXT WEEK

[midnight plaza]

He can probably take an IOU or two, just leave it there

[livid iris]

EN EL NOMBRE DEL PADRE DEL HIJO Y DEL ESPIRITU SANTO AMEN

[pallid onyx]

Amen

[late jackal]

😳

[robust shell]

tragedy struck upon this poor feline

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[mint flax]

alright its midnight where's our daily "no"

[pallid onyx]

Good question

[tawny quarry]

hmmmmmmmmmm

maybe itw today?

????!!!!111

[wide jungle]

no its 7am

[finite turtle]

Pat didn’t say no in the first 9 minutes of the day so it’s today

[finite turtle]

I think it’s universally agreed that by default the earths time is whatever american eastern standard time is at the moment. The eastern part of the USA is the entire world

[tawdry gull]

no its called GMT for a reason

Greenwich Mean Time

so its england

ignoring that GMT isnt the only one used

[wide jungle]

2 out of the 3 founders of the Indie Stone were/are british, 1 is canadian, ergo, we use european times here clearly

[tawdry gull]

lets just make it easier and set Australia to the global standard

AEDT specifically

[wide jungle]

thats not a B42, THIS IS A B42

[pallid onyx]

No cap

[obtuse wasp]

Or ya know, UTC, also known as universal time code

[wide jungle]

I did not even realize we passed 10k messages already

[snow nimbus]

This is Sparta.

[wide jungle]

Proceeds to kick Pat Bren down the hole for not releasing B42 all by himself?

[snow nimbus]

poor PatGPT

[mental ore]

At the bottom of the hole is a gennie and attached is the b42 info on a supercomputer

Kick him down

[tawny quarry]

i think we broke him

[snow nimbus]

[open vessel]

soon

[snow nimbus]

🤣

[pallid onyx]

W gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317738412274614282/thisisB42_soon.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

It's quiet

Thats different

Different...

[limber idol]

Too quiet

Granted it is 4 am

[gaunt phoenix]

OMG ITS DIFFERENT, THAT MEANS BUILD 42 IS RElEASIN TODAY

[snow nimbus]

1AM here

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-griffin-family-guy-psych-ward-gif-26893232

[snow nimbus]

But usually still buzzing with activity

Calm before the storm

[pallid onyx]

How we feel about B42 no cap

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-krabs-spongebob-rabid-foam-mouth-gif-12914290795242109833

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[sudden falcon]

Bruh.. still nothing?

[midnight plaza]

You get to watch the updates at Steam DB so that's something

[mortal kernel]

such a good.mod ;))

a nice way to end your bandits run

sort of a last stand challenge

[mortal kernel]

very soon 😉

[limber idol]

If it released tomorrow that would be golden

BEcause the rest of the week I'm fucked lmao

[gaunt phoenix]

Day after tomorrow im pretty sure

Im in Australia and for us our Tuesday is the American Monday

[limber idol]

lol

[mortal kernel]

people right now on steamdb

[limber idol]

Pretty much

[indigo bane]

Repost

[snow nimbus]

[pallid onyx]

[tawdry gull]

so real

[pallid onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1311774499712274452/1317738412274614282/thisisB42_soon.gif

[mortal kernel]

heh, you're gonna be amazed how many will stick to 41 bc of mods and MP

[tawdry gull]

maybe one day

[tawdry gull]

i dont mind too much, i mainly used qol mods anyway

[mortal kernel]

I use lots of mods but I will discard them soon so fast b42 won't finish downloading before I'll remove them

no modded b41 can compare to the new stuff

[tawdry gull]

like ill play with hundreds of mods but i dont really care about the rest

only a few

[earnest stirrup]

I think all people will discard their mods to enjoy the unstable and understand how it feel, after that someone will stay on it and other will return to modded 41.

Honestly all depends on what features improve more the game "for you", the modded one or the B42.

Than when your mods will be updated all will enjoy it in unstable.

[tawdry gull]

like RV interiors, draw on map, music mod

[pallid onyx]

No cap

[tawdry gull]

but id give them all up for the animals in B42 alone

[earnest stirrup]

Cap?

[mortal kernel]

I have thought the same but apparently many will still play 41 in MP untill that drops for 42 and I've witnessed people saying that here and on other platforms

[earnest stirrup]

Honestly I would do it too.

I mean I will enjoy the 42 for sure do some time and I'm sure the game will feel more alive.

But for me (and this is only for me), human NPC on bandits and KEE (this particularly) changed the game more then what b42 probably do.

All have their opinion and preferences and that's ok.

Saying that... May be B42 is so awesome that I will not come back and wait for mods update...

Who know? But actually I doubt. But don't try B42 unstable is crazy

[mortal kernel]

starting to sound more realistic

that Bandits mod changed how the game feels earlier on

I agree

especially day one and now week one is in the works which will bring a new feeling to early game

but I dare to say that no modder can accomplish what the devs can and when people will first experience NPCs in 43 and beyond, they will laugh at this mod

[earnest stirrup]

Sure things.

I think KEE is more near TIS purpose for npc

[mortal kernel]

yes

[earnest stirrup]

If you join his discord you can have an idea. Next patch will introduce personality things ecc.

[mortal kernel]

I'm following his work

[fallen phoenix]

if theyre willing to port to b42 it'll be huge

[tawdry gull]

im sure you have some better NPCs than what ive experienced, but the ones i know just walk around untill they find a zombie which doesnt sound as good as B42

[fallen phoenix]

but bigger mods like that should maybe wait for mp to come back to port

[earnest stirrup]

But what I love is also that in late game you can:

• find bandits that have base that rinnove the lot for that building.
• be extrme furtive and looking always for cover when you move in city because a noc with fire gun could be something. This is a late game feature.

Saying that, again, my be I will change my mind.

Sure things KEE in B42 unstable would be epic.

[earnest stirrup]

Yes

And we can enjoy b42 in the mean time

[fallen phoenix]

ya

[mortal kernel]

i think you're talking about superb survivors

[fallen phoenix]

sp enjoyers will have their fun

then mp enjoyers will take over

[mortal kernel]

the main problem with bandits

is the aggro

[tawdry gull]

i just know there were NPCs, only tried it once or twice. Also tried that one mod where you start day 1 that has NPCs

[mortal kernel]

if you accidentally hit them they will aggro back and won't stop untill you're dead

also they get attracted by cars because they're base off of zombie ai

[fallen phoenix]

i was wondering why they wanted to get run over so bad

[mortal kernel]

maybe it's superb survivors I can't figure it out from what you are describing

[fallen phoenix]

its literally called day one

it uses bandits tho

[tawdry gull]

my point is that i personally didnt find NPCs as game changing as im sure B42 will be

[mortal kernel]

no they are not

apart from day one bandits

which brings the very early chaos to life

[fallen phoenix]

ppl have been shitting pant over the idea of npcs for yrs

[mortal kernel]

and they will shit long enough

[fallen phoenix]

im endeared to the idea that theres little guys running around in the world doing everything i am, but worse

[tawdry gull]

NPCs made by the devs would be amazing though

[fallen phoenix]

i dont see a world where tis drops the npc update & ppl somehow dont lose their minds over it

[mortal kernel]

would be ?

how is that up to chance ?

[fallen phoenix]

maybe theyll all explode before its finished

u never know

[tawdry gull]

possible

also would just meaning its not current lol

[mortal kernel]

fair

but if the devs can't build the appropriate NPCs for their game, I don't see someone else doing it

[tawdry gull]

Bro why am i getting ads for this

unrelated but i had to ask

[fallen phoenix]

cos ur grandma needs a gamer chair

[tawdry gull]

true

[fallen phoenix]

wdym?

[compact shadow]

yeah i dont see many people that wont try b42 unstable at all

also imagine what the new crafting and animal frameworks are gonna do for modding in the future

[mortal kernel]

the best NPCs will come from TIS not mods

[earnest stirrup]

Technically they said they have already a lot of things ready and very cool that should be only adapted (I think this was said two years a go) but they need to adapt it properly to the game.

So I'm confident they will. I'm ok to wait also 3 years for the first iteration if it out solid base.

[fallen phoenix]

yea they can build the game around it

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah there are several interesting features

[compact shadow]

its gonna be so much more atmospheric

[earnest stirrup]

Yes the game need more life, what animas should brings

[mortal kernel]

mods will surely enhance them

[compact shadow]

i bet 10 years later will be so good when b42 comes out properly

[fallen phoenix]

i was reading back thru some blog posts & updates a while back. pretty interesting stuff

[mortal kernel]

10 years later....

[compact shadow]

youll have a lot more animals even in urban areas and being able to craft a lot more shit from scratch will work so well for 10 years later

[fallen phoenix]

theyve said animals r the first step toward implementing human npcs iirc

[compact shadow]

makes sense

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah...

That is positive

[compact shadow]

i honestly dont really care that much about human npcs

i love that feeling of loneliness from singleplayer pz

i imagine itll be a sandbox option when it comes out anyway

[fallen phoenix]

looking at the roadmap again it'll probs be a while before we start to hear abt human npc implementation

[mortal kernel]

such a nice mod....can't wait to try a full hard apocalypse run with no loot

[fallen phoenix]

havent heard abt human npcs at all in a while alrdy

[tawdry gull]

im the same but also complete opposite, i like the loneliness of multiplayer

so i have people to hide from

[mortal kernel]

b43 full production full likely commence after b42 stable is wrapped up

[compact shadow]

i prefer multiplayer over singleplayer but i can more reliably play singleplayer because i dont need to find people to play with

[compact shadow]

i mean therell be a lot of patches and minor updates for b42 first, no?

[earnest stirrup]

Yep so fear we have at least 8 months after the unstable to wait before B43 blogs

[tawdry gull]

im not hiding from people if its me and a group of friends, lol. I mean joining servers

[mortal kernel]

we will witness our best days playing Zomboid in unstable it will be patched updated, new content etc

[compact shadow]

i can seemingly never find those except for roleplay servers where combat is done via the chat which sucks

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah waiting with the unstable dropped is a lot better

[mortal kernel]

everyone will wait with baited breath for the new patch to unstable bringing in more stuff more crafting

[compact shadow]

its "bated breath"

[tawdry gull]

luckily for me im not massive on combat, i play how i would irl which is find a cabin and avoid conflict. But also i dont play on ones with this supposesed chat pvp

[mortal kernel]

misspelled

[fallen phoenix]

crafting overhauls is gonna be big for mp too. ppl will get less mad at me for the amnt of mods i use 💖

[earnest stirrup]

I read about a guy that is setting up a serious PZ role play server, but his YouTube channel is for Italians so I fear they will talking ita

[mortal kernel]

grammar police ?

[compact shadow]

its a very common mistake

[tawdry gull]

nah i checked its baited

[mortal kernel]

should I call reinforcements ?

[compact shadow]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/with bated breath

[fallen phoenix]

getting baited ^

[tawdry gull]

nah its baited, wrong dictionary

[compact shadow]

i fell for it 😔

[mortal kernel]

I'm calling reinforcements

[fallen phoenix]

execute this fool

[tawdry gull]

lol

[mortal kernel]

ban from Zomboid 24h

[tawdry gull]

On the count of 10, B42 will be released

10 days

[compact shadow]

10

[tawdry gull]

cant stop counting now

[compact shadow]

thatll be christmas

[pallid onyx]

Capisci 🤌

[mortal kernel]

why 10?

[earnest stirrup]

😄

[tawdry gull]

mhm, when most people will be busy and have the least time to play

[compact shadow]

and also the devs will be on vacation

[fallen phoenix]

be patient til dec 42nd

[pallid onyx]

I am

[tawdry gull]

its only 1 month away dont worry

[compact shadow]

b42 has been delayed to february 30th

[tawdry gull]

lol

[pallid onyx]

February 31th*

[compact shadow]

31th 💀

[thick pollen]

are they going for Christmas release?

[midnight plaza]

The chance for me to say we got B42 before GTA 6 is low but its not yet zero

[compact shadow]

its not particularly low

gta 6 is likely not coming out until 2026

[tawdry gull]

its never zero, unless you release it now @devs

dont let them have the satisfaction

[mortal kernel]

food and nutrition overhaul will be post b42 and pre 43

so a patch will drop in between

[compact shadow]

zomboid really is a bodybuilding simulator with zombies sprinkled in

[tawdry gull]

isnt it only console then too?

gonna a couple years after for pc after or something

[pallid onyx]

And farm simulator too

[compact shadow]

ive never done farming in zomboid tbh

never needed to, never survived that long

[tawdry gull]

lol

[earnest stirrup]

Farm seems to receive a big upgrade, curius to see how it will work now.

Also will require real time to grow

[pallid onyx]

Xdn't

[pallid onyx]

Maybe like harvest moon now

[earnest stirrup]

Lol would be cool

[compact shadow]

my record was like 3 months i think?

[tawdry gull]

looking foward to it so its not just a quick thing you do for food

[compact shadow]

my base was the west point lake houses that playthrough

[pallid onyx]

Great

[compact shadow]

rats in zomboid will be such a cool change

[tawdry gull]

the world will feel so alive with animals

[mint flax]

i wanna make rat boots

[compact shadow]

imagine rats scurrying towards you in some industrial basement

[tawdry gull]

lol

or hearing the howls in the distance, but this time they aren't ambience

[compact shadow]

are wolves on the list?

[open vessel]

yeah, I'm on the list to play B42 unstable soon

[tawdry gull]

not that i know of but i can dream

[mint flax]

ah theres a list

I was just gonna name em

[compact shadow]

i guess predators would be superfluous given the zombies

[tawdry gull]

didnt know about slugs and snails, do they have models crawling around or is it a farming thing?

[compact shadow]

my guess is the latter

[mint flax]

idk I think theyd be cool

[compact shadow]

and predators are probably also harder to implement

[mint flax]

not unnecessary bc maybe theyll target farm animals

[compact shadow]

do we know if zombies are gonna target animals?

[mint flax]

I think they said no but im unsure

[compact shadow]

imagine zombie cows...

[tawdry gull]

i know they can be attracted to the sounds of animals

[mint flax]

i know they said no zombie animals tho unfortch

[compact shadow]

perhaps mods will implement that

[open vessel]

list is missing turkeys and raccoons

[unreal sentinel]

ITS OUT

[compact shadow]

the list is from a while ago

[mint flax]

idk predators would be cool, targets ur animals and maybe are a sneakier threat than zombies

[compact shadow]

no

[mint flax]

https://tenor.com/view/morel-orel-frustrated-clay-puppington-pointing-finger-gif-9329589984358713699

[compact shadow]

omg guys build 42

[unreal sentinel]

34%

[compact shadow]

its just mods updating

[mint flax]

200kb update damn theyre good at optimization