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[edgy notch]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pepe-gif-24668210

[limber idol]

Just a reminder that they're adding sandbox options to change and disable the new features

Muscle fatigue, fishing minigame, anything else that applies

Though they said it in a general term and not for anything specific. But I highly doubt they wouldn't give the options for muscle fatigue since it's been pretty divisive

[open vessel]

true, yet one would also likely get muscle strain and fatigue from actions like (1) consistently tearing down walls/destroying tiles with a sledgehammer when building their base from the ground up; (2) scaling a sheet rope consistently altho TIGS will add the probability that you fall off depending on moodles + strength and fitness levels + how long you've been climbing the sheet rope; or (3) leg fatigue from running up 32 flights of stairs which is something along the lines of 400-600 steps

appreciate the response

[ember crane]

Be careful what you wish for!

[open vessel]

[warm pecan]

i don't see the problem as a sandbox player

[limber idol]

[warm pecan]

i mean i play sandbox but i just deactivate zombie respawn

otherwise it's basically apocalypse mode

[eager wyvern]

Why can't we have a default non-sandbox mode with zombie respawn turned off?

[indigo bane]

You mean, a casual mode ?

[wide jungle]

Is there a difference between Apocalypse mode and un-adjusted sandbox mode?

[warm pecan]

no

[wide jungle]

then it should be a simple matter of...just turning respawn off in sandbox mode

[limber idol]

I wouldn't really call it casual. The only difference is that if you clear an area it stays clear, not much else of a difference.

[warm pecan]

i mean i kinda get it why it can be annoying

[indigo bane]

well it's a big difference

[eager wyvern]

I don't think that's casual mode.

[wide jungle]

One can save different Sandbox mode presets, so spending that less than a minute to set it up should be quite doable

[warm pecan]

feels less ...

"vanilla"

[eager wyvern]

out of the box

[indigo bane]

That's how i would call it i mean

[warm pecan]

but i mean, in a realistic way, i can understand why respawn is on by default

[indigo bane]

but yeah as Saradain said, it's not that hard to save a preset in sandbox mod @eager wyvern

[eager wyvern]

Yeah, it's not.

[warm pecan]

like, it's "doable" to clear out all of kentucky with respawn off

[eager wyvern]

The point is, by default presets, it should have just one default preset with respawn off.

[warm pecan]

pretty sure it would be impossible irl scenario

[wide jungle]

Respawn is probably on because I don't believe zombies from other states are stopping at the Kentucky border and thinking of "Kentucky? hell no" 😄

[open vessel]

Project Zomvoid

[wide jungle]

well, assuming respawn would be considered as more zeds coming to the game area from elsewhere instead of teleporting into accessible locations...

[limber idol]

Honestly my only complaint as a default Apocalypse difficulty player is that they respawn a bit too fast sometimes. It's kinda hard to explain, but I've had cases where I cleared out a street and two days later it's half filled again with new zeds.

[indigo bane]

also zombies do not respawn on tiles near your character so it's not that unrealistic

[wide jungle]

Never seen that happen, that fast, I've had weeks of clear streets or more

[warm pecan]

playing with respawns off gives a goal to achieve, i like it

[orchid eagle]

i like respawn on and im a casual player

[eager wyvern]

Sorry but I'm not that casual. 😦

[limber idol]

Well something that extreme is rare. But it's still annoying when it happens.

[wide jungle]

Of course, I usually play Sandbox, and I don't tinker with the respawn modifiers, so maybe by default sandbox has an "easier respawn"

[limber idol]

I've just noticed it doesn't take long for places near me to half fill with zeds within a week or so, not two weeks or more like Saradain

[wide jungle]

I can't say whether that happens because of respawn, or zeds naturally migrating towards emptier nearby zones

After all, zeds will not respawn into locations that are closed off for them

[limber idol]

I guess that's my problem lol

I don't wall off the whole town

[wide jungle]

suppose you could, if madly curious, copy your save and use debug mode to quite literally look at the zombie migration routes

and see if the zeds on your empty strees popped there, or wandered a long ass distance

[limber idol]

Eh, it's not a game ender for me so I just deal with it

[wide jungle]

some good roleplay right there

[limber idol]

What, dealing with the bs the game throws at me?

[wide jungle]

X-files theme on and you ponder where the hell are all these god darn zeds coming from

[limber idol]

lol

[wide jungle]

to me it'd be scientifically curious matter if I encountered such absurd and anomalistic behaviour

[limber idol]

Eh we could always chalk it up to the ai being the ai. They do funky stuff like beelining through a base when they hear a noise instead of walking around.

[native bronze]

It's not only respawns. Zombies will move from nearby cells to "spread out". You can check the other sandbox options related to this

[limber idol]

oh I know about that part

[mortal kernel]

this sounds so gud, but it will be another problem one must take into consideration

[limber idol]

Honestly unless muscle fatigue kills the game I'll just leave it on. I've always found it a little cheesy that I can just terminator my way through a 50+ horde

[mortal kernel]

that's the point mostly

[warm pecan]

difficulty added ? yes please

[limber idol]

I figured, I'm just a little surprised some of the community is taking it so hard even with the news of sandbox options for it

[open vessel]

no options for moodles lol

[mortal kernel]

because some have reserved opinions on how this is balanced and some just like it that way

[tawny quarry]

that's the true tragedy

[limber idol]

What, switchingbetween the new and old style?

[open vessel]

yeah, idt they'll be adding an option for that. I like the new moodles, but I know many members of the community were not happy about the changes

[native bronze]

my hope is that the new stealth will balance out the muscle fatigue. Now you have to weight if you try to sneak in or make the area safe

[mortal kernel]

?

[limber idol]

Give it a day and we'll have a mod for it

[open vessel]

true

[mortal kernel]

the old ones are hidious

[covert ibex]

Muscle fatigue and the wall destruction are prolly the only things I’ll disable tbh lol

[open vessel]

actually, both the old and new moodles are questionable. They should use Spiffo moodles

[native bronze]

[limber idol]

I can't wait for in a year when people start discriminating based on if you disabled something from this update or not

"oh you use muscle fatigue? Someone can't handle hordes!!!1!"

[mortal kernel]

I don't know why you guys call it fatigue when it's strain but we'll keept it fatigue for the sake of convo

[native bronze]

isn't muscle strain like a serious injury?

[mortal kernel]

and I don't think it works in the same way as exercise fatigue which is different

[mortal kernel]

no

[limber idol]

Yeah I've just been using fatigue and strain interchangeably, we probably should use the correct term lol

[mortal kernel]

it's not the same 😉

[late jackal]

Me every day

[mortal kernel]

fatigue is losing force and lactic acid build-up while strain is what you get if you try an intense physical task whitout proper warm-up before

to clear stuff out

[indigo bane]

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/gaming?iso=20241216T12&p0=195&msg=Project+zomboid&font=cursive

[mortal kernel]

?

[indigo bane]

Trust me bro

[limber idol]

Totally real bro trust me

Gah you beat me

[indigo bane]

hehe

[mortal kernel]

we take bets ?

[indigo bane]

ofc

[limber idol]

I bet one tf2 scrap metal that it wil lrelease between the 10th and 15th

[mortal kernel]

fixed date or week ?

[indigo bane]

day

[limber idol]

Yeah I'm not betting on something that narrow

[indigo bane]

so you think it's going to release next week ?

[mortal kernel]

yup too narrow

let's take.weeks

[limber idol]

Maybe, I just doubt they'll pull another B41 and release a few days before Christmas

[indigo bane]

ok so i say the week of the 16th of December

[mortal kernel]

9-13 / 16-20

[limber idol]

Seems reasonable

inb4 that one guy shows up and starts posting copium gifs

[indigo bane]

uh you can't do that @mortal kernel

[mortal kernel]

?

[indigo bane]

you can't pick 2 weeks

[mortal kernel]

no, I'm stating the options

[indigo bane]

oh

ok mb

[ancient hazel]

I think it will be the week of the 15th

[mortal kernel]

that's second

[indigo bane]

so 9-15th @ancient hazel ?

because the 15th is a sunday

[ancient hazel]

15th to 21st

gives them as much time as possible without it being christmas week

[indigo bane]

ye

ok so what do you have to offer guys for this "bet"

[pallid onyx]

Mosquitopregnant is right

[ancient hazel]

they they still have a few days to do a hotfix for any immedate crashes and bugs

[mortal kernel]

keep in mind the time for necessary patching before Christmas

[limber idol]

Free noods
(I will mail you a box of noodles)

[indigo bane]

Fair

[mortal kernel]

1 server boost for Project Zomboid ?

[indigo bane]

uhm what about 100$

[limber idol]

Well if we're going with that logic, I guess they can pull off another B41 date

[ancient hazel]

if i am wrong and remember thsi conversation ill send you a digital high five over discord

[indigo bane]

[mortal kernel]

and I'm sure I'm gonna see that money if it comes to that ?

[limber idol]

Yes saar you will be insert credit card number

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-monopoly-monopoly-monopoly-pay-me-milburn-pennybags-rich-uncle-gif-8492847351845927546

[indigo bane]

yes... i think i will

[ancient hazel]

at the end of the day, if they delay it or it comes out later or whatever, im fine with that. im happier with a more complete release than a rushed one

[mortal kernel]

ok, I'm gonna go with the boost if you're up for it

[indigo bane]

good for me, 100$ and a boost

[limber idol]

Yeah, at most I'l be disappointed. Honestly the worst thing about a January release will be everyone screeching about how right they were about there being a late release

[ancient hazel]

this

[mortal kernel]

why are we negative all the sudden ?

[indigo bane]

They want to regulate their own hope in the release of December

[ancient hazel]

i want it to release on time more so the devs dont have to deal with all of the terrible people.

[indigo bane]

i can understand

[mortal kernel]

I don't see any reason for delay apart from an exceptional situation / major game breaking bug, it's coming

[ancient hazel]

nah not negative, I just dont feel the need to go crazy over it. i have been playing since just after they put 41 in IWBUMS, so a wait is not an issue

[limber idol]

Same

[mortal kernel]

and the chances for a major bug now is low because it would have popped up by now in all the testing runs

[limber idol]

But still, it's never a guarantee so I'm just cautiously optimistic

[mortal kernel]

I'm 90% sure it's coming

taken into consideration all factors including financial

[indigo bane]

i play this game for a decade now and i have to admit that i've never been as excited for the game

[mortal kernel]

I'm leaving a 10% room for error

[ancient hazel]

oh man, youve been here since the beginning

[mortal kernel]

because as I said if it's an exceptional situation I can understand the delay

[open vessel]

gaming communities will still complain for anything. Still see PZ players complaining about not getting an exact date on unstable launch, MP not being introduced until later, or that not all the expanded crafting will be in the unstable launch

[ancient hazel]

yeah, its very unfortunate

[limber idol]

Were you on here the other night when that one guy was going on a whole thing about how B42 without multiplayer on launch is a "two steps back one step forward" situation?

[open vessel]

I think I read something along those lines earlier lol (mainly skim the chat)

[limber idol]

Yeah he want on a whole thing about how B42 would do poorly without multiplayer and how it wouldn't be enjoyable in singleplayer

It was weird

[ancient hazel]

pretty sure the devs said their reasoning for that in a blog at one point.

[mortal kernel]

lol what I missed

[limber idol]

Just someone not understanding dev priorities and beta testing

[open vessel]

seen the convo along those lines in #pz_b42_chat too

[mortal kernel]

it won't be long until mp.drops

[limber idol]

At the very most a couple of months

[mortal kernel]

it's not build up from scratch

[limber idol]

That's just my most extreme guess

[indigo bane]

whether they said their reasoning or not, it's kinda obvious that multiplayer is a huge part of tweaks and balancing of the features

• all the net code

[mortal kernel]

I believe we will have it next maybe 6 months tops

[indigo bane]

yep

[mortal kernel]

depends on what else will be added as a priority except what's on that list

[indigo bane]

but i didn't play multiplayer mode a lot so, it's not even a problem for me

[ancient hazel]

as long as i can pet a cow i will be happy

[indigo bane]

i would prefer the expanded crafting feature

[mortal kernel]

before MP drops you have time to explore everything new

[open vessel]

pet the bulls too

[limber idol]

Speaking of, I wonder what the name of the other new town will be. We already know the one on the river is called Brandenburg

[mortal kernel]

Can't spoil

let it remain a mistery

[deep wing]

It's called Big Valley

[indigo bane]

i really expect the game to be harder but for good reasons now, because i got the feeling that the death was not enough caused by the player gameplay

[mortal kernel]

combat needed more rework, I'm confident now it's getting better logical, harder

[open vessel]

remember they mentioned in a Thursdoid that it would be ||Ekron||. I speculate we'll get other towns like ||Irvington and Knob Creek due to the racetrack and the details on vans||

[limber idol]

Isn't Ekron already a location? Or am I confusing that with a mod? It's been months sinze I last played

[indigo bane]

redistributing the spawn seems more interesting to me, if the player wants good loot he has to take risks, if he wants to go out at night (and face the darkness) he has to take risks etc.

i'm really excited about that

[open vessel]

it is a map mod currently. I believe Fallas Lake will be recognized as such then TIGS will make their own version of Ekron. Details are in this Thursdoid: https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/09/broadened-horizonz/

[mortal kernel]

most experience players would take on.hordes way too easy whit little to no serious consequences, now you need to think more tactical, carefully plan ahead, etc seems more realistic

[indigo bane]

i like the idea of the zombies getting harder at night, maybe sprinters but i don't think the community would like

[mortal kernel]

zombie spawns are again a welcomed tweak, it was unrealistic and weird seeing hordes in the middle of nowhere, no human structures or anything that could explain their presence and yes the center of town where the hotzone is with most POIs should be much harder to reach and it's realistic seeing zed closer to center where people used to be than far way in the open field

[limber idol]

Only reason why there should be a big group out in the middle of nowhere is a random event or something

[mortal kernel]

gathering maybe

[open vessel]

helicopter crash event/story would be neat

[limber idol]

The crashed bus full of former survivors:

[mortal kernel]

yeah, any event that would explain maybe moderate groups far from cities / towns

[covert loom]

Seeing large hordes of zombies in rural farmlands logic on day one.

[mortal kernel]

yeah but how large ? because if you get 50+ zeds I can't see that being ok, maybe smaller groups or if it's a farmland complex, makes some sense

[mortal kernel]

that's what I've been trying to say, that if they need time for patching after the build drops it's probably next week so if anything comes up they have time to address it before Christmas holiday

[limber idol]

I thought B41 dropped on December 20th though

[open vessel]

big hordes of zombies distributed more so in remote areas would make sense in the Many Years Later challenge map

[mortal kernel]

that was a stable build

and 20th was on a Monday and Christmas landed the following weekend

don't compare the stable build to unstable, betas can still be buggy so a hotfix may be needed in the following days

[limber idol]

Ah ok I thought that was the date for Unstable

[mortal kernel]

;))

unstable 41 launched in 2019

[limber idol]

Ah that was before I started playing

[mortal kernel]

with many patches that landed in the weeks that followed

[mortal kernel]

ahh sweet memories

[indigo bane]

ye

but i think this time is gonna be something else

[mortal kernel]

funny that my save did not break that time, I was fortunate

[snow nimbus]

I remember being so stoked for that, cause I had been waiting for the animation update since 2015 when they first announced it was something they were doing

[indigo bane]

@snow nimbus I really like the vehicle update was it B40 ?

[snow nimbus]

it was!

[mortal kernel]

b39 sirs

[snow nimbus]

oh 39 right

[indigo bane]

oh shit

[mortal kernel]

b40 was the weather build

[snow nimbus]

40 was weather update

[indigo bane]

i dreamt about being able to live crazy adventures with my car in PZ

[indigo bane]

really, i don't even remember this update lul

[snow nimbus]

I always forget it was a thing

[mortal kernel]

it was so fast

[indigo bane]

06/12/2024 it's

[mortal kernel]

they launched iwbums and the same year like a couple of months away the stable

[indigo bane]

we're getting closer

[mortal kernel]

so I think that was the fastest build they pulled so far

[indigo bane]

yep wasn't a huge update

[mortal kernel]

people reached LV ? how many deaths ;))?

[indigo bane]

i mean it was certainly hard work from the dev team haha

[mortal kernel]

I think the sandbox setting will take care of this

curious to see how will they spawn now that the heat map changed

[snow nimbus]

not yet we are still in westpoint

had 4 deaths yesterday including one of our frontliners (who had like 12k kills)

almost more deaths than in march ridge

[snow nimbus]

on the bright side we have a bunny boy pet now though

[limber idol]

Hot?

[snow nimbus]

[minor jay]

oh wow it's barely been 2 weeks and it's already at 4245 posts

[limber idol]

Well it helps it's devolved from just Thursdoid to #pz_b42_chat lite.

[fallen phoenix]

its MOSTLY been on topic hasnt it? to be expected of a thursdoid that has a release date range in it

[limber idol]

Yeah mostly but it's also varied wildly

[fallen phoenix]

it was a wildly varied thursdoid

[grim flare]

I just come here to rant about horses

[limber idol]

Sorry bud, not until later

[fallen phoenix]

no hold on i wanna hear the horse rant

[minor jay]

I occasionally peek my head in for my daily copium and to post funny gifs, sometimes both at once!

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-the-parenting-big-bite-big-d-gif-2251626328151793975

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/meds-gif-26485921

[open vessel]

delete your messages. We need to have this channel locked at 4242 messages

[limber idol]

Erm no sweaty

[teal summit]

TRUE

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/patience-is-bitter-but-its-fruit-is-sweet-daniel-francis-aristotle-bridgerton-lord-marcus-anderson-gif-5363163823027394856

[rancid kiln]

you're talking to someone who don like icing on cake coz it's too sweet

[teal summit]

Lmao

[minor jay]

🤣

[fair pebble]

LMAO

[tawny quarry]

for real

[latent storm]

I love hearing whining from people who don't understand how game dev works

[native bronze]

don't be shy. you can whine some too

[orchid eagle]

Only if it comes with cheese

[tawny quarry]

We really haven’t seen much of irvington did we?

[open vessel]

not really. Just the racetrack they showed off in a vid iirc

[deep wing]

Genuinely what is the wait for? It's an unstable, there's gonna be bugs. Is it to build up hype? I think they've long lost the right to do that.

[quartz plume]

unstable doesn't mean unplayable, especially when people have been waiting two years for it

if they release it in a terrible state people are going to get angry about it regardless of whether it says unstable on it or not

the risk of that kind of backlash is really not worth saving an extra week or two

[snow nimbus]

they call it unstable instead of IWBUMS cause it is easier to understand for new players

It has begun

[indigo bane]

They would release the unstable earlier if the players understand what unstable means. Not the dev fault

[mortal kernel]

;))) lol

[mortal kernel]

yes it's highly populated, you cranked up the pop ;)?

[mortal kernel]

I want to hear that rant cause I will endorse it

horses are so immersive if you play wilderness only maps

[covert ibex]

Watch out guys the dude who’s only been here a month is saying the devs can’t build hype guys

[pure hedge]

i will be mad if i download the unstable build and it doesnt crash even once

[mortal kernel]

I remember when b41 unstable launch there weren't any major game breaking bugs

and the build was playable

[fiery smelt]

How dare you be hyped for a game you enjoy getting a major update.

And regarding the "right" to generate hype.
If anything if there is any game that has the "right" to stop development its this one. Over 10 years of contiuous updates, while also talking with and taking feedback from their players.

If there are any games that don't deserve hypes I'd look over most of AAA before even approaching passion projects like this.

[mortal kernel]

And I don't think it's appropriate we talk about rights because it's not like this is governed by any laws so If they want they can do it and no one can stop that

Most hype is build up by the community, content creators and the devs

feature creep is what led to the majority of hype bubbles around PZ

[fiery smelt]

What amazes me is how this game could be in development for 12+ years, without any forms of extra income for people already purchased in.
You can't even purchase the soundtrack on steam.
And yet they even managed to massively increase their dev team with the MP update attracting so many new players.

[mortal kernel]

that's what you get when you make a good game

[grizzled plank]

Well maybe its in development because its not officially finished?

[fiery smelt]

You'll find it pretty hard to continue development if you run out of funds, no matter your other circumstances.

[grizzled plank]

Well then gee gollly, they wouldnt be doing it if they were out of funds

[mortal kernel]

why do you think b42 launches in December 😄 :d ?

$$$

[ornate scroll]

[fiery smelt]

Your missing the point entirely. Their continued development without constantly scrounging for cash or having to shelf the project for 12+ years is a testament to great planning and management

[mortal kernel]

I'm sure they know how to handle funds

[fiery smelt]

Looks that way

[mortal kernel]

but the financial factor of any game release is a serious aspect

[grizzled plank]

Well its kinda about tested method. Big update coming out and sales sky rocketing with b41

[mortal kernel]

it is

[grizzled plank]

My point was towards markus being amazed of they working 12+ years without finding extra money. It just confused me as game being sold enough is simplest explaination

[mortal kernel]

seeing how it's not a AAA game that requires a huge studio with many employees, they managed it all this time

on the other side take a look at star citizen with huge crowdfundings over 100 mil $ and it's in a very bad state after all this time, that's bad management

[fiery smelt]

In a world where games get released broken, stuffed with DLC's and micro transactions. And then dropped support for after a year or two.
I'm just saying Indie Stone are definetly one of the good guys, and I want and will support them. :)

[fiery smelt]

Yeah talk about release bugs my god, every update you have people getting their entire stuff wiped. Ships they paid 100+ $ for break entire feature removed for months.
But mid-update it can be fun for a bit. I think I have like 8 hours or so in it.

[grizzled plank]

You're kinda on wrong angle there i believe. Unless those games you mentioned also doesnt comes out to sale as fully finished

[mortal kernel]

that game will.never see the light of release

[fiery smelt]

There even was like 3 days of a bug where everyone who spawned their ship at their home station had it explode right away, which gave THEM a penalty for it :D

[mortal kernel]

as long as Roberts is in control

it's dead

[fiery smelt]

Its a cool tech demo though. That massive server meshing tech they are testing is cool, breaks alot still. but is cool

[mortal kernel]

they outsourced a lot of game mechanics to be handled by different companies and in return got a golden pile of shite that was nowhere near a usable state example the landing / take off animations and atmospheric flights

[limber idol]

outsource entire parts of game to different companies
said companies probably had little to no coordination
shitty unplayable product
Shocker.

[fiery smelt]

I got like 6 good fun hours of dogfighting and bunker raiding. But then when I asked the discord what to do next, they basically said "do that untill you get 23 million credits to buy ship XYZ so you can do it faster" :D I stopped afterwards. 30 bucks for 6 hours fun is not to bad, i would not recommend it though

[vague tangle]

what? AAA games? they still exist?

[limber idol]

They do but in questionable quality at the very best

[vague tangle]

i think gta 6 will be an another piece of shit in this AAA ocean

[ember crane]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-jewelry-jewels-bling-bling-gif-3462413

[ember crane]

Less about being the good guys and more about having money, I'm sure all game studios would love to be able to release free updates and still have lots of money but few are that lucky

[limber idol]

I wouldn't be surprised, yet people will eat it up

[vague tangle]

cyberpunk is an example

[limber idol]

Every Call of Duty since what, the original Modern Warfare 3? Black Ops 2?

[mortal kernel]

Starfield another example

[vague tangle]

shitfield

[balmy fulcrum]

Hey @ember crane, I hope the spirits remain high on the team!

I was wondering, the list of what launches with the "unstable vs later list", is it a comprehensive list? Or merely big-ticket items? For example things like the cleaning stuff you guys showed off a while back, or pickling, liquid rework etc, is not mentioned on either side. Or would that fall under the "???" on the later list?

[slow yarrow]

black ops 2 was so good, all I remember in that game is customizing the weapons and the zombies mode, I thought the granade launcher attatchment or the shotgun attatchment where the granade launcher went on the rifle were cool

[ember crane]

Not comprehensive. Liquids are in

[slow yarrow]

oh, thanks for this information, I'm on my quest to make the everything potion

[balmy fulcrum]

Great, thank you for your answer!

[slow yarrow]

that's what I'll do the first thing I do in b42 unstable

mix all the liquids and drink them, but not before getting lemongrass to attempt to survive that

keep up the good work and I wish everyone working on this fine project the best of times ahead

[mortal kernel]

Pat I'm shocked ;)) should we open up a savings account just in case the bells of bankruptcy ring ?

[mortal kernel]

after BO2, Imo all that came after we're more or less junk-ish

[mortal kernel]

food preservation mechanics ? or maybe later?

[regal sphinx]

Will farm animals roam in the wilderness, or will all the farm animals that we don't immediately tend to just die off in their enlcosures?

[grizzled plank]

👆🏽

[sudden falcon]

when do you guys expect new update?

[winter crane]

Asap

[indigo bane]

In a few hours

[late jackal]

We won't have drying racks on launch and crafting preservatives is part of brewing, which has already been slated for later

[vocal wagon]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but will it be possible to carry on with a B41 multiplayer game (locally hosted) once the update is rolled out? I know we can't use MP in 42, but will 41 still be available?

[indigo bane]

Yes

[peak socket]

no?

oh well nevermind yes

if you dont update

[karmic glade]

You have to opt into the beta branch

Unless you manually do it your game won’t update and you can keep playing 41

[grizzled plank]

B42 unstable will just be an option you need to enable

[old flint]

Wasn’t b41 released December 20th 2021 or something like that?

[indigo bane]

Stable yes

But the unstable released on October

The 16th

[karmic glade]

^2019

[native bronze]

not to throw shade but that gif Pat sent made tarkov devs pop into my mind right away

[karmic glade]

I had just gotten to college when the last unstable released, now I’ve graduated and been working a year and a half at the time of the next unstable release

[indigo bane]

same lul @karmic glade

we'll get some kids before B43 i guess

[karmic glade]

For real, that’s crazy to think about

[ember crane]

https://tenor.com/view/putting-my-kids-through-college-gif-18038078

Me to everyone on Discord

[bronze cedar]

I wouldn't let you near kids

[vague tangle]

what

[bronze cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-royale-mutsuko-japan-smile-flashlight-gif-17090243

"... and you say his name four times..."

[eager wyvern]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Pat_Bren

That is 4 times already

[mortal kernel]

sad to hear, let's hope agriculture, and blacksmithing will have some consistent updates

[ember crane]

Want them all for yourself, eh???

[proper dirge]

You know, what I really hope from build 42... is the bucket helmet

[ember crane]

Nope, because then you'd have to be able to put cooking pots and frying pans and all sorts of nonsense on your head

[gleaming ivy]

Would combat against animals, for example Dogs, be something a little far away? For Example In B43 or maybe B44?

[proper dirge]

I'll wait for modders to make them possible like in 41

[pallid onyx]

B43, B44 next decade

Jk

[bronze cedar]

hue hue

[gleaming ivy]

Reveal to us Nasko

Armored cars have to be priorities

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[bronze cedar]

We have no shortage of ideas and preliminary work done, when there is something to announce, you will read about it in blogs 🙂

[karmic glade]

Is [e-mail] still good to email these days

[bronze cedar]

ya

[ebon wind]

If I send an email there asking very nicely for early b42 with NO threats this time, will I get it

[gleaming ivy]

Are there already plans for Project Zomboid 2? 😂

In first person

haha I would like that

[indigo bane]

The real question is : Are there already plans for Project ZOMBOID 3 ?

in 5D

working with chat gpt

[gleaming ivy]

Unreal Engine 6 in 16K Resolution

[karmic glade]

If I’ve ever complained about any part of PZ do I go straight to junk

[indigo bane]

with zombie scent diffuser

[gleaming ivy]

I would love if there was a way for you to cut open the zombie's guts and put them on your body as a disguise

[latent storm]

That sounds like more of a mod thing haha

[gleaming ivy]

In model 3D

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-hunting-walking-dead-gif-13800050

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah haha

There was a mod like this in build 40

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-dead-rick-daryl-what-confused-gif-5144949

Insanity for me, it's going to be the biggest update I'll look forward to.

Imagine being a crazy Rick Grames in the zombie apocalypse

[minor jay]

Dawn of the 6th day | ~ 618 hours remain.

[late jackal]

Imma go nomad in B42! Gonna invest in survival and crafting, then head out with tents, fishing poles, campfire kits, coolers, canteens, and long rifles!

[indigo bane]

Please do not use hours

it hurts

[latent mulch]

not if you compare it to 17.520hours

in that comparative it's just a tiny glimpse of time

[latent mulch]

heck yeah

[eager wyvern]

I guess we'll stick with paper mache hats and tin foil hats.

Since you can't cook food with those things. Aluminum foils however....

[grim flare]

Plunger hat (only works if you are bald)

[teal tundra]

I just went to the store to get some gud, they’re all sold out 😦

[gleaming ivy]

I hope Moodles are more terrifying, just like the classics. I was sad for these current ones.

[ebon wind]

When were moodles terrifying

I can't remember a single time I saw one pop up and felt chills throughout my body

[gleaming ivy]

It's a way of talking

Matches the Zomboid dark theme

[snow nimbus]

Just 4x nothing too cranked

[orchid eagle]

ok but hear me out

road cones as a hat , the ultimate party hat

[snow nimbus]

I would enjoy this

[gloomy quest]

Today??

[latent mulch]

true yeah
would be nice if the moodles had actual visual effects on the screen

and sound effects

[ebon wind]

I think technically with the player voice lines the exhaustion moodles will have associated sounds, in a way

[latent mulch]

Ooooh, true yeah

[ebon wind]

That said, I'm personally fine with moodles being an indicator rather than causing visual/auditory effects. I'm likely not going to play with the player voices

[latent mulch]

fair yeah

ya not gonna use the voices even for SP?

in MP I bet they're gonna be a tad funny to get used to but I'm anxious for them in SP

will add a lot to the atmopshere

[ebon wind]

Yeah I wasn't personally a big fan, from the blogs (for myself, I mean; def a cool feature that I think many will enjoy)—I tend to find panting distracting* in games. I'm certainly going to try them & see but I imagine I'll prefer without

[latent mulch]

true yeah they're quite annoying in some games

but I'm curious how it will feel in PZ!

[ebon wind]

The inclusion of different choices in character creation will certainly be neat for MP

And SP, I suppose, with NPCs

[covert loom]

could imagine the RDR2 level immersion for PZ when it comes to PZ with all these new features.

[latent mulch]

Yeees, more character creation options is always good!

[latent mulch]

YEAH
Never played it but I heard it's really good with immersion

I'm already imagining fighting in a rainy night, the rain droplets falling on the street, the survivor panting fighting against the endless hordes of infecteds

flashlight flickering and so on

it will be awesome

[covert loom]

perhaps a dying lightbulb could expect some flickering.

[grizzled plank]

Well i dunno if they add effects to moodles for immersion, but i know 1 thing for sure. They don't have to add it for panic moodles.

[latent mulch]

or after turning a lightbulb back after a ton of time has passed

[covert loom]

Generators need to stop exploding due to low conditions and instead break down.

[ebon wind]

I think they should explode harder

Leave a crater

[covert loom]

all generators are a ford pinto

[frigid mist]

Okay but that's an excellent problem to have. The cooking pot idea in particular is incredible. Imagine: completely blinded, deafened outside of your character's own voice put through a quick audio filter to sound like it's echoing all funny from inside their impromptu helmet as they try and fail to fend off the horde they're foolishly charging into. It'd be hilarious!

In short, a terrible idea, but we're here for a good time not a long time

Plus a really good highlight of the new ambient noises the player characters make

[median cedar]

but which is gonna be the improved gunplay? it's refering to the video of fenris guns?

[ivory pawn]

i hope digital watches need batteries 🙏

[warm pecan]

digital watches batteries actually last several years, you'll have the time to die

[indigo bane]

why ?

[ivory pawn]

hard game fun

and it’ll return you to like a nomadic lifestyle

i’m think that’s the word

losing track of the days

[open vessel]

perhaps instead have there be a probability that digital watches break during particular actions (pushing zombies, bumping into objects or players, tripping + falling, etc..) . They’re abundant so it wouldn’t be difficult to find/replace one

[ivory pawn]

watches breaking and batteries dying would be cool..

like the last of us

[fleet flame]

Ye, watches never break IRL, The Last of Us invented that idea.

[ivory pawn]

they have watches irl.?? america is so weird..

[latent storm]

Sounds kinda tedious to me lol

[short ember]

im into it

[covert loom]

all watches should need batteries lol

just need water shutoffs to be more challenging and require players to learn to stock up ahead of time.

Water shutoffs and still filling 2 whole water bottles with remaining water in the pipes

[karmic glade]

Aren’t there digital watches that are solar powered

[covert loom]

not sure if they are solar powered in 1993

[karmic glade]

“The first solar-powered watch was released in 1972 by American engineer Roger W. Riehl” google ai summary

[indigo bane]

7th of December

It's coming guys

[snow nimbus]

Today is the day some of my regular playersstop playing

So that would be perfect for me

[broken trench]

I’m believing this because it’s funny

[open vessel]

source?

[candid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[open vessel]

[indigo bane]

I'm just saying it's 7th now

We are just getting closer

[gleaming ivy]

😂

12th hehe

[late jackal]

I will hold 16th of December (at the latest) steadfast until the 17th

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/patience-is-bitter-but-its-fruit-is-sweet-daniel-francis-aristotle-bridgerton-lord-marcus-anderson-gif-5363163823027394856

[tawny quarry]

Either way, every morning b42 is a day closer

[gleaming ivy]

No.. Build 42 it's released Tomorrow

I NEEDD THAT!!!

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-break-dance-gif-24923144

[tawny quarry]

I wonder how many flavours of chips they’ve added

If you look at the blog posts and check the inventories in the videos you can see the chips have flavours

Like plain and salt and vinegar if i remeber right

I wonder if they’ve added more flavours like ketchup and the such

[snow nimbus]

Ketchup is far too Canadian for Kentucky '93

[tawny quarry]

So i rechecked there’s more than salt an vinegar

They also hsve bbq and onion and sour cream

They also have diet cola, root beer and ginger ale added in

[mortal kernel]

why is that ?

that 4x pop looks oknif you started like 5-6 people

[snow nimbus]

PoE2 stole them away

[ivory pawn]

water goes bad would be amazing in vanilla

[mortal kernel]

yeah it launched this month

it's too early to see the player count

but I know a lot of people waiting for it

[minor jay]

Dawn of the 7th day | ~ 594 hours remain!

[deep wing]

Just 13 days left until release

[earnest stirrup]

Hope 13 hours

[grizzled tendon]

12/20/2024

[limber idol]

The numbers, Mason

[grizzled tendon]

We bouta build farms underground

[limber idol]

Plants need sunshine

[deep wing]

They'll be a heat lamp and ganj growing mod within the week trust me

[limber idol]

[earnest stirrup]

Nah I'm positive, will drop early

[grizzled tendon]

late 2025

[earnest stirrup]

Lol

I fear that's a good prevision about the stable 😄

[late jackal]

Pot farms!

[deep wing]

Imagine a full ranch with a pot farm underneath, like that one farm in The Gentlemen

[indigo bane]

16th

[grizzled plank]

Would be sick, though i can't see why unless police zombies constantly get attracted to your base otherwise

[deep wing]

It would be a drain on power, definitely can't power it with just a generator, but would be a permanent supply of happiness/boredom reduction.

Could even introduce the 'stoner' trait into vanilla, to replace the soon-to-be unused smoker trait.

[limber idol]

Why would it be unused? It's just not going to be OP if what the testers are saying is true.

[grizzled plank]

Its too much headache if not gonna be op.

For me atleast.

[limber idol]

So manually smoking a cig when you see the moodle is too much effort?

[grizzled plank]

In Mp, finding Cigs ain't always easy. Plus it takes space from my precious tool bag space.

So therse various reasons it conflicts in my play style.

[limber idol]

Well I guess I'm a dumbass, I never play multiplayer lmao

[spring osprey]

Hello, would we expect new patch on Thursday you guys think?

On same day as the thrusdoid or can/will it be any day?>

[flat epoch]

they said they were looking for a release before christmas and the typical day it would fall on would be the 26th

so i assume we are getting it a little earlier? unless a pre christmas release becomes impossible

[round loom]

Cigarettes are too light for it to be a problem tbh, and the stress/unhappiness reduction is just too useful to not have

[grizzled plank]

Multiple lighters/matches aren't. Plus why take cigs and lighters when i can add in more nails or screws

[late jackal]

Remember, smokers are gonna get nerfed. We're probably going to have lower endurance, a smoker's cough, and might even have a lower limit on how high your fitness can get.

[mortal kernel]

any day, not the same day as thursdoids

they are mostly development blogs

[deep wing]

it's the 20th, I'm telling you

[indigo bane]

friday ?

what if they need hotfix

[deep wing]

Yes, it will be 3 years exactly after they dropped b41 unstable

[indigo bane]

i do not think it's relevant to determine a release date

[deep wing]

I had a premonition that it was coming on the 20th

so I have more evidence than you

[indigo bane]

I dreamt that you were wrong so actually, your evidence are clearly bullshit

[late jackal]

Everyone knows you never launch on Friday if your product's gonna be used on the weekend

[indigo bane]

ye

[ebon wind]

The sage understands that the release date will only be revealed when the time is right

The sage frees his mind from such concerns

Anyway I think it will be released today in five minutes

[gleaming ivy]

No no

Tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[deep wing]

Although I appreciate these things take time. Like, what are they waiting for? Another excuse to postpone it a few months? Are they allergic to money?

[old flint]

Probably just that it’s not ready yet?

[gleaming ivy]

Isn't fixing bugs a reason?

We are not dealing with a AAA game, like Rockstar with RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2

[deep wing]

It's coming out in and unstable state anyway, they wouldn't give us a release window if there were still game-ruining bugs to fix

I better not complain, don't want them to threaten us with selling the game IP again

[ebon wind]

There are plenty of explanations & there's not much to be gained from theorizing imo

[gleaming ivy]

I'd rather wait for a good ''unstable'' game than something buggy and unplayable.

[ebon wind]

One such example: the game-breaking bugs very well could be all fixed, but QA processes are very much necessary

[gleaming ivy]

Fix bugs now, this will help with the launch of the stable version, i believe

[orchid eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/thearistocats-disney-disneymovie-mariearistocats-eyeroll-gif-25975356

[orchid wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/thearistocats-disney-disneymovie-mariearistocats-eyeroll-gif-25975356

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/thearistocats-disney-disneymovie-mariearistocats-eyeroll-gif-25975356

[mild orchid]

what i find hilarious is how the game testers for the unstable release are psychopaths who ran over animals and completely decimated the ecosystem

[gleaming ivy]

LOL, I see that

[latent mulch]

they're real players for that tho

first thing I wanna do is run one over just to see if they have physics or die immediatly

imagine though instead of hunting , just drive the car to the woods and go after a deer

[mild orchid]

cars cant run over trees

[latent mulch]

maybe a very open space

[gleaming ivy]

😂

The meat could spoil, something like that

[jagged jolt]

i fell like we're going to be seeing a lot of roadkills

[latent mulch]

totally yeah

[latent storm]

Ngl I'm getting really hype now that I know the release is soon

[latent mulch]

true true

[latent mulch]

YEAH I feel that

I'm not even playing PZ just to get the PZ Urge + B42 Hype

[latent storm]

I haven't played PZ for a few months now so I don't get burnt out before the update

[tawny quarry]

i keep checking the blog discussion over and over again like an addict as if the update's going to magically drop if i do it enough

[latent storm]

It's like reading the back of the game box on the car ride home

If you share that hyper specific childhood memory lol

[old flint]

Imagine we get dayz car physics after hitting deer

[latent mulch]

it's been a dream ever since cars got added

to be able to run ovear a infected and it flies away

[old flint]

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-ceasefire-ceasefirerp-dayz-inqusition-ceasefire-gif-3878084218949803827

[hot quiver]

that's crazy that the water is actually solid

[hot quiver]

imagine if it's source engine levels of ragdolling too

[abstract oak]

Vehicles used to do that without hitting anything, all you needed was a passenger in MP

[finite turtle]

they still do sometimes but not nearly as bad or often

[latent storm]

Hopefully if ragdolls ever get added we can have a much more fun time mowing down zombies on the highway

[tawny quarry]

just the thought of like one zed getting source engined 70 feet into the air after getting hit by a car

[stark needle]

!roadmap

[limber idol]

Hell yeah brother

[limber idol]

I've only done one run this entire year. Funnily enough, that was my longest run.

[minor jay]

How long did it last?

[candid sparrow]

I just need b42 to be happy in my birthday

[candid sparrow]

I think they could drop the new ost in the youtube as a teaser... 👀

[gleaming ivy]

In the expression that the blog uses as 'blacksmith's technological tree,' what do you think it means? Unfortunately, I don't have a very good understanding of English... We will have the initial creation, and the rest will be released later.

[tawny quarry]

pretty sure it's for later

i remeber seeing something about handmade furnaces

in one of the blogs

[grizzled plank]

Probably slowly processing and recipes

[karmic glade]

Anyone know which blog post talks about the performance increases

[mortal kernel]

honestly no one knows but mostly pottery will have some crafting options up to brick tiles for walls

at least that's what has been shown off in an old blog post

apart from that we don't know how many crafting options are available from the start with those two

[snow nimbus]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/02/play-your-cardz-right/

[mortal kernel]

you should email them and ask

[deep wing]

We all know I won't, I'm too scared of nasko

[mortal kernel]

B41 unstable launched in 2019 (someone pin this), b41 stable launched in 2021 and it's wrong to compare stables to unstables

[candid sparrow]

Bro thinks NasKo is like a buggy man

[mortal kernel]

Beetlejuice

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah

A loving man

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-ban-syntheticllama-gif-21044291

I am joking

[late jackal]

Bud, let them bugfix and balance. They want it out, too, but they don't want it to be super buggy. Remember, gamers are dumb. Remember that fiasco when GTA 6 footage leaked and a bunch of idiots literally, unironically said, "it looks unfinished."

[gleaming ivy]

true true

good point

And also, build 42 is already on the doorstep.

[late jackal]

And hell, the stupidest part of that is gonna be when GTA6 finally comes out, those same idiots are gonna say, "see, they listened to fans and went back and fixed it!"

[gleaming ivy]

lol

😅 I don't doubt

[late jackal]

And it'll further fuel a narrative that game studios and publishers can simply, "listen to fans" and do whatever a bunch raging gamer nerds cry about.

[quartz plume]

thank god they removed woke.

i actually don't think it'll turn out that way merely because the outrage market doesn't really have room for/benefit from something being received well, if it does everything they want they'll still just find some other dumb shit to complain about

[median cedar]

i'm curious to see what happen if i kill all the deers in certain zone how long it gonna take for them to respawn

[gleaming ivy]

Maybe one mouth

Imagine the new ENVIRONMENTAL NARRATIVE, you find a flipped car, where a bunch of animals were kept inside...

https://tenor.com/view/excited-i'm-so-excited-so-excited-yay-happy-gif-16375819648008939887

https://tenor.com/view/hype-hyper-cool-wicked-koffahype-gif-25016915

[pallid onyx]

And when was the multiplayer

[gleaming ivy]

Sorry 10th december

[pallid onyx]

Ahhh

[quartz plume]

also worth noting that b41 wasn't stable until december 2021 (like a week after mp came out), not 2020

[gleaming ivy]

Yes

Good point dude

[mortal kernel]

unstable and stable in December 2021

mistyped year in the comment

[pallid onyx]

Ohh alright

[limber idol]

When it drops I REALLY hope it happens on my day off or after an early shift.

It'd be amazing to have a launch "party" in the vc on here

Get 20 people screensharing at once lmao

[tawny quarry]

i wish it happens on a random week day while i'm at school and i only find out about it while i'm back home

[limber idol]

Cries in full time employee
I'd get the ping on my phone and then the rest of the shift would drag on for eternity.

Or worse, they drop right before i leave for work or right as I clock in

[tawny quarry]

Worst case scenario

[limber idol]

Very

8 1/2 hours of pain

[tawny quarry]

The shift of unending torment

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/subaru-natsuke-natsuki-subaru-gif-19434521

[indigo bane]

The day it release I call my boss

"no I'm not coming today"

[gleaming ivy]

😂

I'm going to do a LIVE in YT lasting more than 8 hours, just like I did at the launch of Multiplayer

[proper dirge]

I'll do the same

But maybe with a cheat mod so I can explore the map

Or not

[fallen phoenix]

debug mode!

[limber idol]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that as well, run around the new spots in debug mode to see what's what. Also running around Muldeaugh and Louisville to compare old and new.

[silk pasture]

maybe they’ll consider the weekend so everyone can enjoy it. Don’t want my unemployed mf friends enjoying it way before me

[minor jay]

Dawn of the 8th day | ~ 570 hours remain!

[broken trench]

https://tenor.com/view/release-me-far-cry-5-crying-screaming-nutting-gif-7759256987725887902

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

[winter crane]

Am i the only one having an update? Around 2go

[robust shell]

it's probably the mods updating

[teal summit]

Yeah lol

[vague tangle]

clean facts

[pastel elbow]

true...

[mild orchid]

Least Potent schizo

[heady herald]

Most sane PZ enjoyer

[candid sparrow]

B42 is out

[earnest stirrup]

Do you mean is out in this time line?

[minor jay]

Out as in: outside your window? Out of the box? Out of touch?

[indigo bane]

what if it's actually out

[candid sparrow]

Its the unstable - backup first bro

[indigo bane]

no actually it's the unstable - unstable

unstable²

well sorry i'm bad at mathematic

unstable - unstable = 0

= - BACKUP FIRST

[earnest stirrup]

I think he is right and 42 is out really 👍 .... but in another temporal line

[grizzled plank]

What if its in the workshop waiting for people to notice?

Just named B42 with no picture or update notes

[mild orchid]

B42 is out? as in, Out of our Comprehension?

[ember crane]

Out of this world

[minor jay]

Technically it's already out - it has been out... only for internal testers. 😛

[earnest stirrup]

That's right 👍

[earnest stirrup]

Yep, that's another approach to prove that sentence is right 👍

[indigo bane]

They should delay the release but make all the players internal testers so everyone's happy

[earnest stirrup]

Lol

[indigo bane]

We just need one of you to keep being external tester so it works

who want to do this sacrifice

[earnest stirrup]

I live this privilege to others, I prefer enter on the delayed internal testing from now

[ember crane]

You're all external testers, so external you don't even know it

[minor jay]

[rancid moss]

Real

We’re all just guinea pigs in this experiment to see what we would do in an apocalypse

So when the world ends via apocalypse we’ll be countered by the government

[gleaming ivy]

So tell us when it will be released for us.

[ember crane]

They'll just leave bleach out for everyone

[gleaming ivy]

Are the testers people randomly chosen by Discord, or close friends of yours?

[limber idol]

In one of the Thursdoids they said the testers are "mega PZ fans", so I would assume certain youtubers and other noteworthy community figures. Maybe even people who've been on here for a looooooooooooooong time.

[gleaming ivy]

I asked if they were releasing it to Youtubers, and they denied

[limber idol]

👍

[rancid moss]

Maybe they lied

Like the gov in PZ

[limber idol]

I still don't get why people think a meteor caused the virus, from what I can tell the lore points to the government fucking up a weapon test.

[rancid moss]

It’s always the gov. Why can’t it once be like aliens or sum saying “humans suck” and dropping a bio bomb on us. Like Prometheus

[limber idol]

I know that in Sonic lore that's what happened. Alien abassador landed, goverment killed and dissected it, aliens dropped a gene bomb on Earth and that's how we got all the guys in Sonic.

[late jackal]

Hopefully y'all can get this out by next week (or sooner)

[ember crane]

We can but aspire to the heady literary heights of Sonic lore

[teal tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/something-about-sonic-the-hedgehoog-gif-11133110415507229153

[snow nimbus]

That was a good game!

https://tenor.com/view/another-world-out-of-this-world-cinematic-platformer-game-rotoscope-gif-23278396

[fossil ivy]

Big corporations with our data be like:

[broken trench]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-has-you-gif-3336575470240207957

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-nearest-wall-sam-porter-bridges-funny-hahas-gif-24287360

[indigo bane]

9th

7 days left

[quiet imp]

are you so sure

[covert loom]

imagine indiestone at the game awards lol

[late jackal]

You need a released game to be eligible for nominations, I believe.

[limber idol]

I voted for them in the "Labor of Love" category in the Steam Awards

[tawny quarry]

I wonder if we'll be able to craft swords out of molten tin cans

Also found out after a certain electrical skill level you no longer need the magazine to connect generators in one of the blogs

Something Something lighter fuel, bigger gas cans, hoses for siphonning and "alternate means for players with the smoker trait to feed their addiction to nicotine"

Fuck we'll need bottle openers for beer and corkscrews for wine

We can't open maps in the dark either

[late jackal]

Or Swiss Army knives

Or we could just do that thing where you use a knife

[tawny quarry]

you indeed can

they even added switchblades

[late jackal]

Just had a thought. What if we could use wine or beer for disinfection and motolovs? 🤔

Like how we currently have with bourbon.

[snow nimbus]

I don't think that either would be very good molotovs as they require high alchohol content to burn (wine is like ABV of 5.5 to 25%ish and beer is 5 to 9% vs something like vodka which is like 40%)

both also have high sugar content which would actually probably make an infection worse

[tawny quarry]

Mmmm, infectant

[mortal kernel]

Are we taking bets if it's this week?

[velvet mountain]

its 50/50 at this point

i doubt theyd drop it on the 23rd because i genuinely hope their last day of work before the holiday is friday 20th

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah, I mean if Retanaru got it he'd be IS worst nightmare

[velvet mountain]

would make sense to drop it this week so theyd have next week for an inevitable hotfix for the few bugs that the testers missed

[gaunt phoenix]

Amount of overlooked stuff and bugs with the game ha

[magic wraith]

wrong, it could also land after xmas but before the new year

massive possibility

it would have been good to know whats still to be complete before launch

[limber idol]

Is he a major critic/hater of the game?

[velvet mountain]

have some faith

[magic wraith]

realistic expectations > faith

[grizzled plank]

Well, not much deadline examples to give us faith. Still, gotta agree

[broken trench]

They're prolly aiming for around the 20th tbh

[earnest stirrup]

I second this but is also true that they released on 20th in past so who know...

But yeah would make more sense release it around 10, open testing could bring attention to some bugs that you can't see with a internal testing and this would give some time before the holiday to fix them

[mortal kernel]

no, time off for the devs as well so if it's not before Xmas, it's 2025

[mortal kernel]

They release b41 stable and it's not the same as with an unstable build

people still compare them and I don't k know why, B41 STABLE launched on 20th December 2021 not the unstable

[earnest stirrup]

That's a good point

Than make sense think that for the unstable it would be released before 20, for the reasons above.

[magic wraith]

I mean I'm pretty sure they said themsleves if not before xmas unstable before new years but whatever

[mortal kernel]

no no they have not said anything of the sort

that's why we are all hoping it's out before Christmas

[magic wraith]

XD

[mortal kernel]

agreed, it's 50/50 atm but to allow room for patching I am gonna go with this week by that logic

[magic wraith]

I mean if you want to be pedantic I suppose it's always a 50/50

they gone release it or not

[mortal kernel]

we are talking about which week

this or the next

[magic wraith]

yes

[mortal kernel]

I have taken into consideration that it's gonna release this year but the question is which week

didn't consider the delay cause it's another convo

[magic wraith]

XD

[grizzled plank]

There will be lots of stuff flying around in news discussion.

[old flint]

I hope it will be this week sometime. I have the weekend off work so it would be magical if it was this week 🙏🏼

Plus it gives 2 weeks for hot fixing before Christmas, if the devs want that.

[mortal kernel]

reasonably fair

[mortal kernel]

let's hope it doesn't come to that

[grizzled plank]

🙏🏽.

[native bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033

[magic wraith]

I dunno why there's even a debate if the update will be shipped, as an unstable build let it have glitches

[minor jay]

Dawn of the 9th day | ~ 546 hours remain!

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/luviore-gif-19776956

[robust shell]

[ember crane]

Not today

You can all relax

[covert ibex]

@ember crane it would be cool if y’all set up a patreon and the highest tier could play the unstable early

[robust shell]

thanks Pat_Bren (Writer/Cool Dude)

[covert ibex]

Ik it’s prolly never gonna happen but it’s a good way to get more support and drive more hype

[robust shell]

I digress

[ember crane]

No

[covert ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[grizzled plank]

You need to say when for that

[tawny quarry]

Id say it'l be out before wednesday of next week

[vernal folio]

I'd say it'll be out on a day featuring a prime number sometime this or next year

[minor jay]

What's your personal favorite feature being added to PZ in the foreseeable future?

[ember crane]

My lore

[minor jay]

😂 👍 💯

[covert ibex]

@ember crane last ping for the day hopefully, I hope yall get to make that PAWS game one day

[earnest stirrup]

Better read "not today" instead of "not this week" 😄

[indigo bane]

You got a point

[finite turtle]

Hey pat how accurate is this

[native bronze]

put spiffo in a room with a screwdriver and the demon core. If you open the door and spiffo is alive b42 drops today if spiffo is dead b42 won't drop and you repeat the experiment the next day. sadly you'll also be dead cause you entered the room with a critical demon core

[gleaming ivy]

hahaha

[candid sparrow]

Thats the the thing: i'm armed in a room with big spiffo right now. We don't have to do this indie stone, you know that. So, we're going to have b42 now or i can shoot it? It's your choice. We both know whats the wisest choice here.

[late jackal]

Dude. They need to do post-release hotfixes and patches. They can't release right before everyone leaves for the holidays!

[finite turtle]

Listen I’m going off math formulas I made in 2 minutes and stuff they said in blogs

[old needle]

https://tenor.com/view/cities-funny-memes-goofy-gif-27660239

[indigo bane]

now you know

[finite turtle]

Oh yeah what am I doing

[late jackal]

And they said, in blogs, that they need leeway for hotfixes

[finite turtle]

It’s not a linear increase its exponential 😔

[finite turtle]

Ermmmmmmm actually they said they’re aiming for before Christmas so before they go on break

[vernal folio]

According to my calculations B42 unstable is releasing tomorrow
There is a 93.333% chance my calculations are wrong

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/aim-he-virtuoso-target-in-sight-sniper-assassin-gif-20879443

pat said "not today relax"

that clearly means in my opinion

this week

[orchid eagle]

Lol

[indigo bane]

otherwise he would have said "Not this week relax"

[candid sparrow]

It reminds me of rockstar not saying anything about the trailer of GTA to help with the marketing thing

[gleaming ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-happy-dance-black-dance-get-it-gif-14992825767124506528

[limber idol]

I remember when they dropped the trailer and at the very end it said 2025. I was laughing so hard because it was still 2023 at the time.

[gleaming ivy]

true hahaha

[limber idol]

Don't read into it too much, you're setting yourself up for disappointment

[grizzled plank]

Not gonna lie accurate

[vernal folio]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he said the exact same thing like about a week ago

Don't read so much into it

[fair pebble]

"I want you to release b42 in the next 24 hours!"
"That's impossible, I can't do it in less than 48!"
"You have 12 hours now."

The silent character in a corner: "I'll do it in 3"

[vernal folio]

"But sir it'll take months to finish the death laser"
"You have an hour"

[karmic glade]

It’s releasing tomorrow

It came to me in a Benadryl induced vision

[vernal folio]

I can feel it in my bones

[karmic glade]

Can we get someone in here who reads omens, or talks to the sky spirits to get us the release date

[orchid eagle]

On the 20th day of penisham

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[ember crane]

The chance is 0 except on the day it's released

[grizzled plank]

So there is a dedicated release date and it cant just go live as soon as whatever it needs done?

[gleaming ivy]

According to my conversations with a secret developer who is not CHATGPT, we have received some news.

[karmic glade]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[gentle stag]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-confused-lost-vincent-pulp-fiction-gif-14216693

[deep wing]

So, assuming it's not being dropped post new year, and most companies shut down between the 18th and the 20th for Christmas, we will have b42 within the next 12 days, probably less so they can hotfix

[indigo bane]

Tomorrow is the day guys

or maybe the day after

or maybe not

I feel the release is getting uploaded to some kind of server now

https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-it-the-wind-is-so-good-gif-17932077

[ivory pawn]

beware the hat man

[broken trench]

It's coming out on the 20th trust

[covert loom]

it would be an interesting suprise if we get build 42 before 2025.

[broken trench]

Yes... it would be.. interesting

[vernal folio]

Typically surprises occur when something unexpected happens. The devs expected B42 to come out before 2025, most of the community expected B42 to come out before 2025.

So ultimately the element of surprise would be entirely engineered by your own mind

[ebon wind]

Some say the people in this channel will still be theorizing about when b42 will release for years after its release

[gleaming ivy]

😅

[earnest cipher]

the devs have actually been doing coin tosses for the past year deciding whether to release it or not and we just got really unlucky

[abstract oak]

We all know you don't play it that much to compare 😜

[abstract oak]

Bitcoin tosses.

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[earnest stirrup]

I think it will be yhis Thursday, so on 12 December...

It's the best catch logically, they would take some extra time to "find" and "fix" 🔨 possible bugs before holiday.

[orchid eagle]

Finally gambling?!

[warm pecan]

I asked ChatGPT and it told me Friday 13th

[woeful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-mario-walking-gif-7966847823215482947

[ember crane]

Logic has no place in game development

[deep wing]

It has to be soon otherwise they won't be able to hotfix until 2025

[mortal kernel]

could be this week, we will find out in a couple of days

[covert loom]

Once December 20th starts that around the public holidays start.

[eager wyvern]

I'm going to keep using this wrong image from this point on whenever someone mentions "the 20th".

[mortal kernel]

:))

and I don't know why all dates are thursdays, b41 dropped unstable on a wednesday whit a blog on thursday to follow

[gaunt phoenix]

Not really, lol

[old flint]

I’m just wishing it’s this week so I get my weekend to play

[eager wyvern]

After Thursdoid, it drops on Friday.

😈

[mortal kernel]

not excluding it but I have doubts about that

[hallow fog]

i think im checking back like 10 times a day to see if info on the unstable drop hits lol

how am i still a recruit in here after all this time? is it just cuz im a lurker?

oh nvm i think its a server boost thing, im dumb

[mortal kernel]

I tried but they are afraid to lose some cash

[limber idol]

Nah it's because you're a lurker. Just talk more and you'll rank up

[limber idol]

Knowing my luck they'll drop it right after I clock into work

[grizzled plank]

If they drop it then, maybe ya should count yourself lucky.

[orchid eagle]

you get xp for talking in conversations

[grizzled plank]

Because they'll be dropping it

[old flint]

So real

[mortal kernel]

that will be the longest shift you will experience, counting down the minutes

[old flint]

Ether they release it while I’m asleep or when I wake up for work

[limber idol]

8 1/2 hours of pain

[mortal kernel]

eh, could be worse

[snow nimbus]

Zoom zoom

[abstract vortex]

the more you talk, the higher your level goes

maxes out at 1 exp gained per minute (you egt 1 exp per message)

[limber idol]

True but I'd be pretty ticked off for a hot minute lol

[indigo bane]

wtf is that new channel

there is a "420s"

[late jackal]

🌿🔥

[indigo bane]

explain these emojis AND NOW

is it like a new channel for B42 spoilers or smthing

the update is coming omg

Tomorrow

[edgy hawk]

🤨

[indigo bane]

uh they're all here

[velvet mountain]

b42 is dropping on the 20th of april leaked real

[indigo bane]

another one

stop doing that you are increasing my level of anxiety

[late jackal]

420 BLAZE IT!
It's the funny weed number

[indigo bane]

oh

[ripe garden]

when is unstable version coming 🙏 😭

[covert loom]

we dont know yet

[covert ibex]

It would be really funny if y’all just dropped it with a really short Thursdoid

[ancient forum]

“hey everyone, zomboid. that will be all.”

[late jackal]

Literally everybody here is on their toes in anticipation, pal. You're not alone.

[ripe garden]

bro i refuse to play zomboid until update

[late jackal]

But my personal estimate is the 16th

[abstract oak]

We have no sense of humour, sorry

[spark shell]

question: will unstable ruin all our modded servers/saves once it comes? i think i remember seeing something concerning that but i forgot the deets

[late jackal]

My guess is B42 either comes out next week, or it comes out next month after everyone has come back from the holidays.

[late jackal]

Oh, definitely.

[spark shell]

oh im so cooked 😭

[covert ibex]

Probably this or next week bc they likely go on break after this or next week

[ancient forum]

no, B42 and B41 will be completely different branches - i can’t imagine B41 saves will even load into B42

[quartz plume]

b42 will not even have multiplayer at unstable launch

[ripe garden]

i dont play multiplayer really

[spark shell]

i hope this is true because i really dont want to lose a server i have

[ancient forum]

i know that mods won’t work in B42 unless they’ve updated to the new mod systems so you won’t have any mods at all when it launches

oh yeah B42 won’t even have mp for a long time

[spark shell]

this is fine i dont mind playing vanilla for b42 i just cant have my current shit disappearing ykwim

[ancient forum]

you’ll be able to switch between and all your B41 stuff will be kept

[ripe garden]

i need the onyl cure mod

only*

[spark shell]

https://tenor.com/view/wonder-cat-kyuuchan-kyan-chan-wondercat-kyuu-chan-cat-gif-2503115588785147453

hell yeah

[ancient forum]

yeah i remember the olden days of B41 unstable, you could switch back to B40 to play mp if you wanted

and then back to B41 and everything would be the same as you left it

[late jackal]

This Thursdoid didn't really give me vibes it was that close to completion. But 16th is my latest estimate. Gives them a full week to hotfix before everyone leaves.

[ripe garden]

20th i think

[quartz plume]

imo you wouldn't really want your saves to carry over anyway, the entire game has been overhauled and you'd want to see it from the start, not from the end

[ripe garden]

cause thats when build 41 came

[late jackal]

Like, I'm HOPING for this Thursday or Friday, but are we really going to ask them to hotfix over the weekend?

[spark shell]

this

[ancient forum]

yeah they pushed out B41 to the official branch right before christmas so that they could enjoy the holidays and come back and work on hotfixes

[spark shell]

hearing yall talk about it potentially being so close is getting me giddy as hell 😭

[mild orchid]

Hehugh! B42!

[spark shell]

me tweaking at the very mention of b42

[orchid eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/sugar-rush-child-hyper-gif-11404559

[spark shell]

LMAO

[covert loom]

our last Thursday until the holidays is December 19th

[late jackal]

True!

[covert loom]

last thursdoid of 2024 lets make it worth it.

[spark shell]

🫡

[open vessel]

~2 weeks = ~5K messages

[late jackal]

Releasing it on an early weekday will probably be best for the team. They won't be inundated with the same bug reports and can iron things out before the weekend and everyone gets a much cleaner experience once we get the time to play.

[covert loom]

between Mondays and Fridays is the best time for indiestone to have build 42 unstable.

[mild orchid]

what if they release it at the end of the world

[tawny quarry]

We're only december 9

[indigo bane]

"Sorry guys actually we need more internal test, we need to delay the update for 2026, but we will make sure that it worth the wait. Much love The Indie Stone"

https://tenor.com/view/tommen-baratheon-game-of-thrones-go-t-pool-gif-5682677

[spark shell]

b42 irl

[covert ibex]

That’s why I said this or next week bc of their break

If we’re lucky it’s this week so they can get a weeks worth of data to work with

[covert loom]

imagine a real life zombie apocalypse happening before build 42

[gentle stag]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

[spark shell]

"we got project zomboid before b42"

[peak dawn]

I can confirm b42 will drop sometime after 2023

[indigo bane]

Do not forget they are reading our messages, they are probably changing the release date so that it does not correspond to what you are saying.

https://tenor.com/view/evil-haha-laugh-bobs-burgers-evil-laugh-gif-5258694

[spark shell]

[covert loom]

if indiestone delays build 42 we could see a #tweets happen.

[compact shadow]

wonder how unstable unstable will be

[tawny quarry]

They're dropping it christmas eve

[compact shadow]

that's roughly what im expecting, between christmas eve and new years

[spark shell]

from deltarune to project zomboid it feels good to be a fan of a game that's getting an update soon 💀

[compact shadow]

caves of qud just got 1.0

[mortal kernel]

It's not releasing between xmas and new year

[indigo bane]

i hate this feeling, being a fan, a few days before an update