WhatZ Next

[snow nimbus]

yup

[open vessel]

how’d your friends react to news of B42 before Christmas?

[snow nimbus]

they just complained that MP wasn't going to be apart of it lol

[mortal kernel]

;)))

[snow nimbus]

so they don't really care until it is

[open vessel]

[mortal kernel]

tippical

[snow nimbus]

I understand they don't really like to play the game SP anyway so

[mortal kernel]

all the reddit comments on b42 are now starting with "when"

regarding MP

you will be torn between the server friends, b41 and the holly newborn b42

[snow nimbus]

😄

Probably just play B42 when they aren't on, and swap back to B41 when they are

[mortal kernel]

playing the same zombie game that's not the same 😉

[snow nimbus]

however I am going to lose some of them to PoE2 EA so it is kind of moot anyway

[mortal kernel]

ooo yeah that's launching as well

[snow nimbus]

yea it is unfortunate, mostly cause I would like to play but I am not going to pay $30 for earlyaccess to a F2P game

[mortal kernel]

the backdoor

[open vessel]

Canadian Tire

[snow nimbus]

This one?

[snow nimbus]

yea

it's all walled in though 🙂

[mortal kernel]

respawns ?

[snow nimbus]

So I did have respawns on but the boys convinced me to turn them off

that is why the mall became a thought as a place we could live eventually

cause normally you can't really live in it due to respawns unless you section it off

[grizzled plank]

Its gonna be rough to leave comfy and smooth b42 and return to b41

[snow nimbus]

true

[grizzled plank]

[snow nimbus]

actually with my new computer it runs pretty decently for the most part

still, optimizations are always good

[grizzled plank]

I have no problems with it either. Its just driving 120mph full screen i want.

[mortal kernel]

I am running it on a workstation

so it's different

[oak barn]

Highkey want to be able to hunt for meat and then conserve the meat by drying and salting it

If thats already possible in B41 then forgive me i am exceptionally acoustic

[mortal kernel]

I always thought of it as a last frontier before LV

when starting in WP

[ivory pawn]

there’s a mod for it iirc but not vanilla

~23 days

[oak barn]

We'll see if it becomes official at some point

[open vessel]

“Large Drying Rack” at the bottom of the visible list

[oak barn]

Id assume thats for animal skin though

Not meat

[oak barn]

(Would make sense as that's already been showcased in a thursdoid)

[ember crane]

Drying rack is for leather

[open vessel]

ah. Then here’s the mention of the Meat Drying Rack from https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/01/my-zeds-is-on-fire/ (don’t recall if there was a showcase of it)

[ivory pawn]

yippee

[oak barn]

Yeah that, my dumbass forgot the word

[ember crane]

We don't have a meat drying rack, that was just an example

[mortal kernel]

I'm curious how big that list is

[grizzled plank]

Therse a way to calculate exactly

[mortal kernel]

do share

[grizzled plank]

Open paint, use line tool to take exact lenght of the bar(moveable one) at right, the one carries you up and down in list. Then fill the whole right bar(the line you move the first bar in) with it.

Multiple it with 9. It should rougly give you how many recipes

[mortal kernel]

yeah, no, I'm not gonna do that

[grizzled plank]

Ratio-proportion.

[grizzled plank]

Want me to calculate and dm it to you? Can do in few hours later

[mortal kernel]

don't trouble yourself we will see it when it's out

[grizzled plank]

👌🏽 1 min job it is anyway

[mortal kernel]

but there are a lot of options there and that's exciting

[ember crane]

https://tenor.com/view/math-numbers-confused-when-he-say-hes-straight-what-gif-7675506

[mortal kernel]

and he will likely come up with a number that won't even match what's there 😉

[ivory pawn]

i can’t wait to.

[mortal kernel]

you've waited 1 year what's a couple of weeks?

[ivory pawn]

awuh

oh right the thing

[minor jay]

Hey @ember crane are you a writer because you're a cool dude, or are you a cool dude because you're a writer? 🤔

[pastel elbow]

Why is the latest most highlighted? 🤨

[grizzled plank]

Its hs level math, and you are on now.

[ember crane]

Both - and neither

[versed bison]

I need b42 nowwwwwwww

[minor jay]

😱

[earnest stirrup]

Modded bear mum (with AnimZed) with little bears puppy that charge you because see you as a treat making hunting very dangerous.

Please when? 😂

[mortal kernel]

horses, better ones not like the mod that is today

for getting around in wilderness runs

[mortal kernel]

erm...because it's release info inside !?!

window and launch features

[late jackal]

Do we consider this blogpost to be the point where Build 42 production or pre-production started? https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

[candid sparrow]

yes

[mortal kernel]

depends I guess, full production maybe but some stuff was teased in older posts from 2021 so a part of the team was working on animals for example, I remember seeing some.

[pastel elbow]

Or maybe...

It is the last post before release

[mortal kernel]

possible, but also the release will include a post with what's in it and how to opt-in if you want

just like b41 way back

[late jackal]

You sure? Because I'm pretty sure before this, they were mainly focused on getting B41 on stable and fixing bugs

[fleet flame]

Doesn't mean some of the team couldn't have been working on features part of other builds.

Just that majority were focused on 41.

[late jackal]

Then what do you guys think was the point where they started working on B42 content?

[old tapir]

yesterday

[mortal kernel]

some vague info like it was stated in on post that b42's crafting and animals would use the power of b41's animations

and in another they showed briefly some sheep I think

[unreal sentinel]

im just happy we finally have a release window for this, and that its gonna be a few weeks

really gonna feel like zomboid 2

[mortal kernel]

But I think some of you know lemmy's video on youtube testing NPCs driving

[unreal sentinel]

mostly down to all the new systems, graphical overhauls and engine upgrades + map upgrades, most companies would call this a sequel; indie stone calls it early access lmao

[mortal kernel]

and that was way back

[mortal kernel]

I agree with this

[mortal kernel]

the gameplay loop will surely change

[mortal kernel]

well it was about time we hear some news because 2025 is one month away

[boreal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-zoolander-meme-ben-stiller-meme-tiktok-zoolander-ben-stiller-tiktok-gif-27259281

[native bronze]

Do the updates generally drop on short notice? Like during this time frame we were given will it be more like "will be dropping next week" or "update is live go play it"

[sonic wolf]

We'll see, it's not like that will impact the release date

[native bronze]

Not that I thought it would. But these options generate two different kinds of anticipation.

[sonic wolf]

I guess

[quartz plume]

when b41 was still being actively updated updates didn't really get announced in advance or anything, even major ones only got a 'it will be soon' like we've got now

[pastel elbow]

Didn't they do that in this post..?

[native bronze]

iirc they didn't mention how steam branches work and how to switch to b42 unstable in this latest post. Would be weird to have it release without any kind of changelog and how to switch to unstable (for folks that never done it before).

[open vessel]

!iwbums

they'll probably update the command and/or write an announcement about accessing the unstable branch since it's likely many will ask. Video below showed how to access B41 (un)stable branches

[ornate scroll]

Can't wait to get grey hair from being jumped by a zombie in the new darkness

[snow nimbus]

didn't the command get changed the last time?

!unstable

[finite turtle]

commands dont work here i dont think

!dance

[simple nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[snow nimbus]

!rj

[simple nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/136501320340209664/811751387842609222/RJLovesTheNerf.gif

[finite turtle]

nvm

[snow nimbus]

lol

[open vessel]

!inconvenient

[simple nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/136501320340209664/705093900611616928/unknown.png?width=1247&height=683&ex=662933dd&is=6627e25d&hm=252836a2e1df64fd44e85108e42c37105881e0dfd44a800b88496046fe9fff5f&

[open vessel]

!foraging

!searchmode

!mpwhen

[finite turtle]

they should bring back roadmap command

[open vessel]

[snow nimbus]

so it can be spammed every 30 seconds? lol

[finite turtle]

3.7% chance of b42 unstable today , based off my quick 2 minute math

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/upcoming-features-b42/ will this get updated

its still relatively relevant but some new features are added

[teal summit]

same here

even going throughout new year, it is still 3.5%

going until 5 of jan

actually, my bad, it gives me 2.85714285714% chance of it being out today

my calculations says its going to increase a 0.08403361344% each day that passes

(in the worst case scenario)

[quartz plume]

so by that math, it's only guaranteed to come out in about four years?

[teal summit]

35 days

i think its exponential @quartz plume

like

if its today or tommorow, it is 50%

well

let me fix what i mean to say... "the probability to be released tommorow is going to increase 0.08403361344% compared to today"

"the next day, its going to increase by 0.08912655971

the next day is increased to 0.09469696969%

the next day 0.10080645161%

[ornate scroll]

💯

[teal summit]

( and that is in the worst case scenario probability, aka 5 of jan)

[rancid kiln]

what no b42 release does to mfs

[minor jay]

the amount of copium today is delectable

[bold junco]

B42 release on orthodox christmas

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[silk pasture]

When was !roadmap banned lol

[open vessel]

it's been months now

[silk pasture]

Can we reach 10k before b42

Really?

[snow nimbus]

yea atleast 6 months since people been spamming that

[open vessel]

yeah, got removed back in late June

we rejoiced since it kept being spammed

[silk pasture]

Naw it definitely moved a pixel eachtime someone summoned it

[quartz plume]

if you'd just posted it more b42 would've been out months ago

[teal tundra]

Split the update into an 8 piece .rar file and release one piece each day of Hanukkah.

[snow nimbus]

one rar, each day get a piece of the password to decrypt it

[teal tundra]

Dreidel dreidel dreidel i made it out of tears!

Dreidel dreidel dreidel this salt will last for years!

[silk pasture]

"One the first day of B42, nasKo gave to me.... Animals!"

a morsel of content per day

[open vessel]

41.79 patch that distributes randomized clues for each player across the current PZ map. If you solve it, you get the code for the private beta

[snow nimbus]

ooo an AR game

[orchid eagle]

A penisham on a pear tree

[snow nimbus]

[knotty saffron]

How long was it between unstable and mp support last time around?

[hot quiver]

does anyone even remember? it's been 3 years lol

[knotty saffron]

Yeah that's why I don't have a clue lol

[snow nimbus]

B41 was in unstable for like 2 years before it got MP, BUT that was when it was when they were doing the rework from the ground up for MP

[knotty saffron]

Lowk forgot that was b41

I thought mp rework was 40

[snow nimbus]

nah B41 for sure

B40 was adding cars and stuff

[subtle spire]

6.45% build 42 comes out today

[snow nimbus]

for B42 they are just refining what they had been working on for this generation of MP so idealy it should be out quicker than 2 years lol

[fossil ivy]

Multiplayer will prob come out in June

[ripe garden]

is this true?

[ripe garden]

what is unstable

[subtle spire]

probably

every day that goes by that number goes up

it is true as long as 42 comes out this year. if it ends up coming out next year then my numbers will be off

[open vessel]

beta/play-testing branch

[bitter obsidian]

Is this real or am I out of the loop

[open vessel]

100% real non-edited image

[latent storm]

People pulling out the statistics now lol

[tawny quarry]

so true

[snow nimbus]

I look all through the american tire and I couldn't find any monopoly money

[old flint]

I remember a while back in a thursdoid there was working vending machines shown, not sure if it’ll be in the unstable branch but it was cool seeing it at the time

[dark echo]

I am legitimately tweaking for this update. Istg I am going to start scratching my limbs until they bleed

[open vessel]

why scratch your own limbs when the zombies will do it for you?

[snow nimbus]

[late jackal]

Complex machines like the new Vending Machines aren't coming on launch, unfortunately...

But they'll come eventually! And imagine the myriad of ways that other machines can be upgraded into this system!

[snow nimbus]

Automated orange juice machine please

[grim flare]

I'm going to use that machine system to make a nuclear reactor for my bunker

[minor jay]

[short monolith]

I was wondering
Will there be modifications regarding the CarController.class file or any other file regarding vehicles?
I’d like to know to get an idea if current mods that replace files for vehicles will work (Better Car Physics and TK’s Real Acceleration, especifically)

[limber idol]

We'll have mods that make those massive autosorters from modded Minecraft

[open vessel]

gonna use the machine system to make a cow dung projectile launcher. It'll stun lock the player until it runs out of ammunition, and grant me enough time to make my escape or kill the player

[limber idol]

"This is horse shit."
"Bull shit, actually."

[candid sparrow]

Maybe this week they are ending the polish of the new crafting ui and we're going to be able to play

[limber idol]

Week is a bit too generous in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if they released it later in the month like B41 on the 20th.

Though hopefully not that late

As long as it's this year I'll be fine

[tawny quarry]

school ends the 20th for me so that would be nice

[limber idol]

Yeah, Santa swinging by a little early for us Zomboid enjoyers

[tawny quarry]

it could also be next week

although it would be fun this week i don't think that's happening

[limber idol]

Yeah

I've been ignoring the trolls claiming we're huffing copium by expecting a 2024 release

[tawny quarry]

i mean even if they're somehow right it wouldn't release further than january

[limber idol]

Bro you dont get it bro theyve worked on it this long bro itll come out in march bro

[tawny quarry]

real

[limber idol]

bro you dont get it bro b42 wont get multi until summer bro

[tawny quarry]

bro we're gonna get b42 in december 2026

[limber idol]

(People unironically think this)

Thankfully very few, but still

[open vessel]

after a bit of skimming on the Internet, seems that many schools across the world have Winter Breaks on the 3rd or 4th weeks of December (before Christmas) and many employees who can are likely to use their vacation/sick/personal days around Christmas (and I don’t mean for B42, just in general for the holidays). Likely to be some far-fetched thinking and yapping on my end, but I am a little curious if that'll be of any influence on their decision to release unstable sometime on the 3rd week or early in the 4th week of December to get as many play-testers as possible for the initial launch (perhaps this was the case for B41 back in December of 2021?) unless a substantial number of testers isn’t a concern or goal

[limber idol]

Maybe, it's just that personally I wouldn't drop B42 right before Christmas. But they're the professionals here lmao

[snow nimbus]

So I ran into a bug and I am not sure what mod might be causing it - two different players have randomly gained smoker trait, but I don't have dynamic traits mod on

[limber idol]

Did they smoke?

[snow nimbus]

no, but even if they did it should just make them sick

can't gain the smoker trait by default unless you choose it at the beginning

[obtuse cipher]

was it at the same time

[snow nimbus]

nope seperate instances

[obtuse cipher]

because that could be indicating a bug/glitch if they both gained smoker at same time

[limber idol]

I know that, I was thinking if they did smoke it, something in a mod conflict or whatever may have caused it

[snow nimbus]

originally we thought it might be due them both eating candy cigarettes' from sapph's cooking mod

[obtuse cipher]

that could cause it

[snow nimbus]

but I removed the trait on one of them, and he hasn't eaten them since and it just repopped up on his traits list

[obtuse cipher]

maybe the "eating" cigs are just smoking but with different stats gained from "eating" them

[snow nimbus]

When I was playing pretty heavily on a hardcore server a few months back I was living on those cigs and never had the issue

so unless the bug was introduced between then and now I don't see it being the cause

[obtuse cipher]

so all sapph's cooking mod does is just reskin the cigarette, and just redo the stats from -stress -panic -depression to -hunger -stress

at least i think

but if you have trait mods installed it could still see the candy cig as a normal cig, which could give them the smoker trait from eating candy cigs

[snow nimbus]

I don't, just using default traits

[obtuse cipher]

thats strange

[snow nimbus]

very xD

[obtuse cipher]

what mods do you have installed

if the mods arent causing it then it would have to be a very strange game error/ bug

these errors are very hard to determine the cause of due to the fact that they cant be replicated

[snow nimbus]

yup and no actual error popping up in the log so I am not sure

[snow nimbus]

The list is pretty big tbh

[obtuse cipher]

for example if you make a new sever with no mods then on one hand if it doesnt happen again, then it could be the lack of mods, or it could be a rare bug and you just got lucky, and if you DO play with mods it could never happen again due to its rarity or it could happen at any time

[snow nimbus]

yea feels like it would be near impossible to track down

[obtuse cipher]

if the list is really really big i would assume its a mod incompatibility but i would look at the relevant mods that could be effecting it like smoking mods, cigarette mods, or other mods that effect the gaining of traits

i would look through mods that i think are related but if i cant find any then i would remove the smoker traits from them and keep playing, if it happens again make sure your friends tell you when it happened so you might be able to find why its
happening.

maybe you could check the server logs if it happens again and you might see the cause of it

[snow nimbus]

could do, the logs for this game are such a nightmare to read

[obtuse cipher]

true that why i would do it last

[snow nimbus]

The only thing that I can think of it it might be interacting weird with Green Fire, this is the first time I have had Green Fire and Sapph on at the same time - but I have been on other servers with them both and no issue

[obtuse cipher]

yeah i think a mod incompatability causes this because if it where to happen in the base game then some bug reports would happen relating to it

[snow nimbus]

for sure

[obtuse cipher]

i searched "randomly getting smoker trait pz" and it didnt show anything relating to it so i assume its not a problem/ bug in vanilla

[snow nimbus]

only mods I have related to smoking would be Green Fire, Longer Smoke Time, and Smoker's Cough so likely something in there I would imagine

[obtuse cipher]

yeah i would look further into the mods to see if it does something you dont know about

[snow nimbus]

the first player who gained the smoker trait died not too long after getting it, and hasn't gotten it again. The second player who gained it hasn't died (the one I removed the trait from) regained it tonight (no smoking or eating candy cigs)

[obtuse cipher]

i think the game thinks that he is supposed to have the smoker trait, so when you got rid of it it gave it to him again, but your friend that died has a new character so it didnt give him the smoker trait

maybe the game runs a check for traits every night/ time so it can give traits to you

so when it saw he lost the smoker trait it gave it back to him when the traits updated

but i would still check if you have any mods on you didnt mean to add because you did say you have alot of mods

[snow nimbus]

I'll take a peep

on the bright side

20k

[proper dirge]

I bet the first mod for unstable build 42 when it releases is a dog mod or cheat mod

[snow nimbus]

moodle mod imo, cause people seem to be really upset by the new ones for some reason lol

but I am sure those will be up quick as well

[mortal kernel]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2019/10/build-41-iwbums-out/ this is for b41 beta

it's a post with all the stuff in b41 and how to opt-in

[mortal kernel]

It can drop any day with an accompanying post in the news section

[mortal kernel]

isn't the 4th week with Christmas? I think it's next week or the 3rd

if it's still on for 2024

[grizzled plank]

Lets hope for soon

[mortal kernel]

I'm hoping but it's not gonna happen

[grizzled plank]

A feelig inside me saying itll go 2025 and we'l just fell on our knees

[mortal kernel]

no, it's coming 2024 but I don't think this week

all launch features are there even the most awaited Build UI

which was in the works for some.time now

[grizzled plank]

We shall see, but i believe it should be it

Considering they wouldnt add something they didnt finished to the unstable release features, we should be close

[mortal kernel]

I think it's the last part of fine tunning and fixing this week maybe the next as well

[grizzled plank]

Youd bet on 3th week or next one?

[mortal kernel]

hmm good question

[grizzled plank]

Its hard to say, im expecting something between the weeks.

[mortal kernel]

I'm gonna go with 3rd

[grizzled plank]

Like- last 2 of second, first 2 of third

Reasonable enough

[mortal kernel]

but it's 50-50

also could be the end of next week

[grizzled plank]

Exciting.

[mortal kernel]

It all comes together, the holidays, game discounts, 2024 "this year" deadline met, perfect timing for launch

just look at the player influx in the last 30 days available on steam charts

[mortal kernel]

no, sad as it may be, we found out recently that machines are not featured in the first unstable

they will be added later

same goes for the random wilderness generated map aka The Forest, it's not clear if it's in this first beta or not

[snow nimbus]

I have a feeling they did away with the opt in with password business this time around

just so much hassle to get people into the beta branch as is

[grizzled plank]

That sounds upsetting for many

[obtuse cipher]

Just mod it in

No reason not to

[earnest stirrup]

Are you sure?

It seems is mentioned on the confirmed features

[ember crane]

That's the cells around the normal map

[earnest stirrup]

If you are refering to new wild area (generated randomly around the existent map) than we are talking of the same thing.

I think is also what the others guy was talking about.

[outer token]

the idea I beleive is to avoid the edge of the map having a random cutoff into the void

[earnest stirrup]

Yep, and in my opinion from that steatament is confirmed on the first unstable.

Otherwise they should specified that they are refering to a "new wild generation" on existent areas.

[earnest stirrup]

Also if this will be confirmed... Than I'm curious to see if some modders will try to allocate some "modded maps" outside of the existent vanilla perimeter, also if I think this is something that is not doable yet.

It's also true that they didn't mentioned terms like "removing actual map perimeter" when talking of random wilderness, that is something you probably would do if you wanna rise the hype at the moment is a interesting feature.

So who know..

[vast tiger]

Will we ever get Lexington in the game map

[candid sparrow]

there it is, b42 my beauty

[unreal sentinel]

should just be a army sniper zone around the border where you get domed by a invisble sniper for going too far out

[outer token]

Well... that would stop making sense by day 10

[limber idol]

But what about after the border collapses?

[unreal sentinel]

the snipers up a tree and has decades worth of food and a ghille suit on

[limber idol]

Ok this won't be an actual conversation

[unreal sentinel]

the sniper is a zombie

[vague tangle]

and the sniper is flying

[grizzled plank]

What about just a mine field after day 10?

[vague tangle]

just burn them

[grizzled plank]

Burn planted mines?

[vague tangle]

why not

[grizzled plank]

How?

[vague tangle]

maybe it will work

[grizzled plank]

You are suppose to see something to burn it

[vague tangle]

nah i have wallhack

[ivory pawn]

zombie sniper

[ivory pawn]

damn.

[limber idol]

Reminds me of the ones from Sniper Elite's Zombie Army trilogy

[late jackal]

I thought it was a tetralogy

[limber idol]

Oh I've never played the 4th game, looked like a cash grab

That and it seemed over the top with some of the enemies

[vague tangle]

b42 comes out tomorrow
if it didnt read it again

[candid sparrow]

It will come today

If it didn't read again

[minor jay]

it came out yesterday

if it didn't read again

[viral vessel]

B42 beta will be delayed to Christmas 2025, they had an spelling error guys

[fallen phoenix]

i cant read.

[limber idol]

Dang bro you took the illiterate trait

[fallen phoenix]

illiterally

^ i think that would be rly funny if i knew what it said

[late jackal]

B42 Comes out some time next week! ➖

It came to me in a dream 〰️

[mild orchid]

Booo

Shuuut uuuupppp!!

[late jackal]

Honestly, I just wanted an excuse to use
➖
and
〰️

[limber idol]

👄

[covert loom]

[limber idol]

[ember crane]

[limber idol]

Minikits in B43???

[hollow eagle]

[last canyon]

I'm excited

[limber idol]

So I know that on levels 5+ of Foraging you can start finding dead animals, I wonder if that will also extend to all the new types or just the smaller ones they're adding.

[karmic glade]

Is build 42 adding vanilla preservation techniques? Earlier in the thread they said no meat drying rack

[deep wing]

Do you think they'll drop the update faster if I release a statement

[limber idol]

Bomb threat + manifesto usually does the trick

(This is satire)

[earnest stirrup]

@peak dawn B42 out in 2-3 hours? What do you think?

[late jackal]

〰️

He angy

[open vessel]

lol

[late jackal]

Not on launch. But we're supposedly going to eventually get means to preserve foods and use fermenting barrels to make preservatives.

So brewing isn't just going to be for beer

[limber idol]

That would explain the weird barrel I saw in the last video of the Thursdoid

[open vessel]

past Thursdoids have stated food preservation techniques. We’ll be able to make vinegar (Brewing) like a user mentioned above and make jars for preservation (Glassmaking). In regard to making dehydrated meat sticks or beef jerky, not entirely sure yet. If there’s no meat drying rack (yet? ever?) or if there’s no blueprint (if that’s a crafting concept that stuck or not), then there’s alternative means such as an oven or dehydrator after salting the meat.

not sure if it’s still the case, but I believe Brewing, Glassmaking and Butchery will be brought in a later unstable patch (https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/06/the-biomic-man/)

[peak dawn]

All I can say is that it WILL be this month

[limber idol]

It's not guaranteed, just likely.

[peak dawn]

It has to be

[latent storm]

And if not this month, early in Jan

So no need to worry

Play other games in the meantime lol

[limber idol]

100 player TF2 my beloved

[open vessel]

after ten months of feeling that B42 will drop on a particular month or time, you might indeed be right this time

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[deep field]

Only x amount of hours/days left until I can action man every building like I'm MI5 (and die 400 times)

Soon

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[open vessel]

soon

[pallid onyx]

No cap

[peak dawn]

My time has come

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/faith-my-great-god-for-we-live-by-faith-not-by-sight-candle-gif-15967241

[pulsar tinsel]

i finish on the 9th so monday next week

[pulsar tinsel]

i could see drying meat being modded in using the brewing tech

[finite turtle]

Oh that makes me think

Wouldn’t christmas time pause development or at least slow it

[grizzled plank]

How complicated it could be anyway?

[mortal kernel]

Saw the movie, really nice

[finite turtle]

Cuz of Christmas breaks and tigs workers wanting to be with family

[grizzled plank]

Thaats why they're aiming for before it

Or i would say.

[pulsar tinsel]

not bad i don’t think

[mortal kernel]

What Pat said

[pulsar tinsel]

respect for tigs workers working over break tho i also don’t know if its a favor or a given

[grizzled plank]

Worst case scenario simple recipes, craft dried meat from regular meat and salt i think. then cook it and get something with shit ton rot durability

[pulsar tinsel]

does anyone know if rn crafting stations exist? or is literally everything by hand if u have the materials? cant remember

[grizzled plank]

uuuuh- drying rack for leather exists so yes i think?

[pulsar tinsel]

no like rn b41

[grizzled plank]

Oh, im pretty sure no such thing as crafting station exists in b41

out of mods

[mortal kernel]

are brewing and glassmaking enabled in first beta?

[vernal folio]

Yeah it's all with your hands right now

[mortal kernel]

cause I think they have been pushed back

[pulsar tinsel]

dang it rly was a jank crafting system

[vernal folio]

Currently you're like Steve but you don't even need a crafting table

[grizzled plank]

With unholy amount of lag

[vernal folio]

You sort of balanced it all on your knee

[pulsar tinsel]

steve with 81x81 grid in ur inventory

[pulsar tinsel]

god forbid i try to open the menu

[mortal kernel]

nah, not the same as the original dev map

[native bronze]

Or hover over rip clothes

[pulsar tinsel]

lmaooo

[mortal kernel]

yeah, but we'll wait it out if it comes along with more crafting options, it's great

[pulsar tinsel]

yeah if it comes out with bows

we’re set

[covert loom]

Hunting with bows will make long term survival more fun and it avoids attracting zombies

[pulsar tinsel]

and yk, being able to actually hunt

needing a whole gun just to hunt

[covert loom]

Trapping more useful assuming we could trap animals like deer , turkeys , raccoons

[open vessel]

yeah likely. I don't see TIGS not letting us being able to dry the meats we acquire tho. We'll see

[covert loom]

Smoking meats

[open vessel]

idts. Pretty sure it'll be later as part of the "Expanded Crafting/Skills/Professions" based on what Thursdoids have stated before

[covert loom]

Popping bottle caps for PZ in build 42 when it comes to opening beer and other alcohol beverages in bottles.

[grizzled plank]

im curious on bow mechanics, wheter it'll be devastating againts zeds in high levels or not

[covert loom]

I hope bows will have some good accuracy and have some good use for killing zombies as long it headshots

[ember crane]

Don't imagine so, they're not a very good weapon against zombies

[covert loom]

I wonder if arrows will be loot the arrows off of corpses to make them reusable.

Crossbow bolts should also be reused after killing a zombie or animal

[grizzled plank]

Would you prefer it againts big groups instead using a axe?

[covert loom]

Normally I won’t use bladed weapons on zombies if they have nice clothes to take

[grizzled plank]

I will, thats why i play tailor

[left zephyr]

I hope in some future update we have horses, cats and dogs added

[grizzled plank]

With mods it might be closer than you think

[left zephyr]

I know, but I mean officially made by TIS

Also, if they added horses it would be the perfect oportunity to add craftable wagons at level 10 carpentry

[grizzled plank]

Lets just be happy with what we got for now

[left zephyr]

True

I can't wait for that expanded crafting and those new lanterns they have shown in some of the previews

[finite turtle]

pat i have a question

do u ever actually play zomboid

[left zephyr]

Also, I love that we will no longer need electricity or batteries for light

[finite turtle]

huh

did i miss something

[pulsar tinsel]

huh

did i miss something

[left zephyr]

Yeah, they have shown candles and lanterns on some of the videos

[open vessel]

they probably won’t light for very long

[pulsar tinsel]

tbf candles will prob give as much light in b42 as not using anything in b41

[open vessel]

tho I am also glad there will be more light sources

[finite turtle]

did they ever say if theyre rebalancing batteries lifetime

[grizzled plank]

lighters in b41 kind of thing probably. you dont realize they're on before they run out

[left zephyr]

I just hope they also add ways to preserve food with items such as salt, vinager or oil

[pulsar tinsel]

@open vessel in that one bottleneck blog? or no

i’ll check

[open vessel]

idt they mentioned rebalancing battery life iirc. There’s a current sandbox setting for battery lifetime tho (value between 1 and 1000 or something)

[pulsar tinsel]

honestly you shouldn’t get to even know the battery life

unless it’s those cool batteries that show u

[left zephyr]

I doubt they existed in 1993

[covert loom]

Dye packs for taking money from the banks

[left zephyr]

Or automated bells for schools and churches that alert nearby zeds

[covert loom]

That would be nice.

Traffic lights that work and they are automated

[pulsar tinsel]

i wish they could just dedicate 1 guy to work on vehicles😂 someone who is weirdly passionate and makes them hella realistic with mechanics skill being really immersive

[pulsar tinsel]

traffic light traps when

horde gets close and you pull the string and the light falls on em

[covert loom]

Imagine adding turbo or supercharger on our vehicles

drive super fast

[open vessel]

lol

[covert loom]

Off road tires for vehicles so we could handle better.

[pulsar tinsel]

since it’s not easy to make vehicles rare since it wouldn’t make sense, they should make modding cars realistic and add a way to have a “favorite” car where you have a beefy one that is 10x better than any other car

using parts from other cars or armoring it up

it’ll make it so u don’t instantly find the best car randomly and have a way to progress a car up

[covert loom]

PZ logic of taking a hatch from a a car and making it a trunk lid.

Hatch back cars should not become trunk lids

[pulsar tinsel]

or a window that obviously shouldn’t fit in another car

but does

if they wanna keep it like that then i demand switching out v4s for v8s!!!!

[covert loom]

Having specific car parts that only fit one car.

[pulsar tinsel]

i could actually see a new menu for customizing ur car in the future possibly

park it in the now functional car lift and you can access a menu where you can select car parts and do whatever as long as you have them and it’s “semi” realistic, though i rly wouldn’t mind it being a bit unrealistic with how much fun it would be

[covert loom]

Oil changes and spark plugs for cars.

[pulsar tinsel]

someone needs to mod an overhaul

[minor jay]

Yeah. The way I see it: from their inability to collapse from shock and blood loss, you'd need a lot more dakka to stop something that's already dead from moving. Unless it's a ballista bolt, bows and arrows are more than likely to turn zombies into walking pin cushions(scary thought).

[eager wyvern]

I would wait until B42 comes out first.

[pulsar tinsel]

fs

[covert loom]

Build 42 will kill mods until they are updated.

[pulsar tinsel]

this is how you died

[covert loom]

This is how you die from mod conflicts

[candid sparrow]

[ember crane]

No

[covert loom]

Lol

[pulsar tinsel]

he just got hired and told “write”

[eager wyvern]

Nah, his job is to stand in the back and be the "Cool Dude".

Joe Cool

https://tenor.com/view/joe-cool-snoopy-flirt-grin-gif-8115276622106834478

[native bronze]

based and knox pilled

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[sour dove]

so will the devs announce a launch date when they're ready to release B42? Or will they just release it whenevs

[open vessel]

they’ll probably, at any moment’s notice, ping everyone (139K+ members) saying that B42 IWBUMS is out

[candid sparrow]

They will not release at all

Its in the thurstoid, b42 its going to be in december of 2025

Happy New year

[robust shell]

Stable release? Yeah silly, it's not this month

[eager wyvern]

Realest answer: Who knows?

[sour dove]

True

[covert ibex]

wrong chat

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[pure hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/gatomeme-eh-gif-14113093464121339955

[mortal kernel]

yeah I think so, now we see that most of the crafting stuff, missed the first beta

so it's good they decided to scale back the initial release cause it was gonna be out in 2026

[mortal kernel]

most bow mods today are OP and unrealistic, 1 shot 1 kill and it's not like that in IRL, also need to consider if you take a arrow in the knee you will not be an adventurer

[grizzled plank]

Because theyre bound to work on aiming mechanics and simply work as guns with low noise and 1 mag capacity

An actual bow skill will be its own thing

[old flint]

Maybe I missed it but will painting and wallpapering be apart or unstable? I remember a while back they showed off being able to paint and wallpaper interior walls

[grizzled plank]

Isn't that a part of b41 already?

[old flint]

Not sure if you can in vanilla since it’s been forever since I’ve played vanilla only but you definitely can with a mod

[grizzled plank]

Well same here, i just thought those wallpapers and such were vanilla. Painting walls should be though, considering we got plaster in the game

[old flint]

I don’t think plaster has any use in vanilla, I remember there is a wallpapering mod that lets you plaster and paint walls.

[tawny siren]

No no, you can plaster and paint walls in vanilla right now

[ancient raft]

with t3 wooden walls you can use plaster and water to plaster them and then also paint to paint them, in vanilla, but that's it

[tawny siren]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Paint

There are no wallpapers though

[old flint]

Ah gotcha, it’s been so long since I played vanilla only. I’m too used to mods 😅 but I still remember a thursdoid about wallpapering. Wasn’t sure if that’s coming to unstable or not

[ancient raft]

yeah i also vaguely remember something like that

[open vessel]

this? (1) wallpapering (from https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/07/bagz-of-fun/) and (2) wide-scale cleaning (from https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/10/cellar-door-doid/)

(1) https://youtu.be/uaOJbdvhU7o; (2) https://youtu.be/sH-AGOQuG7M

[mortal kernel]

it's not what I was talking about, I was stating that they are mostly OP because of the damage that's unbalanced and doesn't take other factors into consideration like distance.

[mortal kernel]

I saw a subcategory of crafting labeled Glassmaking in the new blog and I've been curious if it encompasses some building options there

in the videos showing the building and crafting menu

[grizzled plank]

You got me all confused what this is all about now

[open vessel]

fs. I imagine they’ll be going for crafting of stronger windows and panes that come in more shapes (which will probably mean they’ll remove using crowbars to acquire windows as currently seen in B41), ofc glass jars for food preservation, glass containers for food and liquids no doubt, perhaps window tinting for decorative purposes, maybe lens for binoculars and scopes

[mortal kernel]

dazzling, let me rephrase, in my opinion all bow mods are unrealistic and OP, mostly insta-kill without taking into cosideration distance and damage

[mortal kernel]

all nice ideeas

we will see which of them made it in the first beta

[mortal kernel]

You believe bows will be effective against zombies seeing how they work in the mods, but they will not be, the mods are OP and unrealistic

that's my point

[edgy hawk]

Not to mention getting a headshot on a humanoid with a bow is fucking hard. Its also very tiring to shoot repeatedly

[mortal kernel]

impossible for a new archer

[edgy hawk]

Though fitness and strength help obviously

[edgy hawk]

Fr

[mortal kernel]

landing a headshot is incredible hard even with a scoped rifle taking into consideration distance of course

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/daryl-dixon-norman-reedus-neco-reiz-gif-19956445

[mortal kernel]

a lot of factors are to be taken into consideration, altitude, wind direction, movement, breath hold, etc

[edgy hawk]

Ohh shit i hope they do a breath hold mechanic now that you mention it

[mortal kernel]

:))

breath hold is essential for landing shots at great distance

[open vessel]

I’ll just set zed toughness to weak so all bow hits are kills

[edgy hawk]

Throws stone

zed dies

[mortal kernel]

I remember landing an eye-shot on a target back in the military training program with a sniper 1,4 km away and I had to wait like 20 mins for the wind to change

so yeah :)) Aiming is rudimentary in b41

[mortal kernel]

stone slings

like the good old primitive way

[edgy hawk]

Boomerang mod when 🪃

[mortal kernel]

that implies such a hard mechanic

and complex

coding

[edgy hawk]

No joke. Makes archery look easy

Oh you mean implementation

Yeah lol that too

[mortal kernel]

again all weather factors must be taken into consideration

implementation yes

[grizzled plank]

Im not saying bows gonna be OP or effective. In reasonable 5-10 metres range they shouuld be usable, or atleast thats what im expecting.

Besides, we're not getting crossbows do we?

[mortal kernel]

didn't hear anything of the sort

[mortal kernel]

just tryin to be realistic

[edgy hawk]

MP snowball fight would be lit

[mortal kernel]

dude I laughed so hard some neighbors will think I'm insane now

[open vessel]

lol all PZ players are indeed insane

[mortal kernel]

can't wait to see how long we will survive in the new build

before sharing death screens

[edgy hawk]

Bro #pzchat will be a torrential message flood on that day

[mortal kernel]

gonna stay away, hope we get the same news discussion chat

[vague tangle]

if b42 will release this month, ill buy 42 bottles of bleach

[orchid rover]

And do what with them exactly

Doubt you'll even get to bottle two before you die.

[woeful sparrow]

Me right now

Me rn

[old flint]

Yes this

[vague tangle]

p a t i e n c e

[indigo bane]

This night, i dreamt about the release

[junior arrow]

me in this moment

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-nut-super-nut-gif-13073710

[finite turtle]

I dreamed about this too

[minor jay]

yeah no joke, the other night i dreamt of opening up my steam and seeing "b42 unstable released, click here to download"

then I woke up and was like :(

dumb brain

[late jackal]

Bro's talking about his wet dreams in public

[indigo bane]

Please stop mentioning my username i receive notifications

I thought it was the update

[tawny quarry]

Nice, i dreamt about a 7ft tall cat with rows of human teeth

[vague tangle]

u guys sleep?

[grizzled tendon]

I WANT B42

IF DEVS RELASE TODAY I PAY 100 DOLA

[sterile dagger]

all i want for christmaaas is B42!

[mild orchid]

All of you. B42 Will release when my spine gets made into metal.

[pallid onyx]

Oh

[candid sparrow]

i'm challenging Nasko to a cowboy duel in zomboid, if i win, b42 comes out today

I will do it for you guys

[abstract oak]

NasKo uses admin powers to get lvl 10 aiming and heal his wounds, good luck with that

[candid sparrow]

I love you soul filscher

Biggest fan from Brazil

[candid sparrow]

HAHAHAHA

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[sly lark]

ad ill buy 60 beer

for our people project zomboid invite

[eager wyvern]

If Build 42 gets released, and the devs started to notice a lot of players are having difficulty with a certain game mechanic, will they put out a video tutorial on how to do things?

Sometimes, I think showing is better than telling.

[karmic glade]

If they don’t the YouTubers will

[ebon wind]

I think it's more likely that they would take that as feedback to modify the mechanic, if the difficulty is due to confusion rather than intended difficulty

[karmic glade]

They are going to release unstable December 12th at 6:09 am EST

[vague tangle]

at 4:20

[compact sleet]

Nah, more like December 11th at 5:14 a.m GMT

[latent storm]

Remember, they're implementing more UI features that can play g
GIFs in the 'how to play' popup so I think tutorials will also be improved

I wonder if the base tutorial will be changed? I'd like for Spiffo to make more sadistic comments about how I'll die

Also, I should probably know this by now, but is Unstable different from IWBUMS?

[ebon wind]

In the sense that they're different words yes (in the sense that you're asking, they're equivalent afaik)

[vernal folio]

Devs must be getting up early

[eager wyvern]

December, yo!!!

(Damn, I was off by 1 day)

[magic wraith]

do we have any window on release for this month?

[indigo bane]

@magic wraith before christmas

aka 23th

[latent storm]

Either way tho, best case it's in the coming weeks, worse case it's coming next month

It would be fitting for it to release on the 20th since 41's last patch released Dec 20 2022

[vague tangle]

tomorrow

[livid iris]

pee pee poo poo check pipi pupu uh oooh

[vague tangle]

soon™

[open vessel]

you just delayed it to February 2025

[vague tangle]

how unfortunate

[wide jungle]

2 years since B41 was finished, and I spent a lot of that time waiting for b42 instead of playing PZ

[latent storm]

Krill issue

[wide jungle]

did you call me a whale

[vague tangle]

imagine if they release 41.79 just to fix one bug before releasing unstable

[eager wyvern]

Whale whale whale... (pun on "well well well")

Sorry, I can't help it. Puns are great.

[latent storm]

I mean considering 41 stable will still be around for a while it's not impossible for it to get a small patch but I don't see much of a reason for one

[ember crane]

6 hours of flashing text that says "GIT GUD"

[vague tangle]

fair

[latent storm]

The fish should surface to the top and insult you verbally

If ur bad at fishing

[vague tangle]

emotional damage

and this fish makes ur character depressed

and very stressed because why the fuck a fish is talking

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/trout-trout-yourself-gif-11664190414588506172

[eager wyvern]

We really need this. Show it with a 1 in 25 chance when the player dies.

[eager wyvern]

No reason at all.

Build 42 is the culmination of all the patch updates for Build 41.

[limber idol]

They should add the cow from Fallout 2 that secretly speaks English

[dusty inlet]

where is this? new part of the map?

[limber idol]

Yep, new wild west attraction

They had a clip or two where you could see all the zombies dressed like cowboys and stuff.

I'll be shocked if I cant find a single revolver there.

[candid sparrow]

This is where i and NasKo will have a wild West duel for the launch of the b42

[limber idol]

THE B42

[indigo bane]

IS

[minor jay]

4 out of 31, only 27 days to go

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-tomorrow-tomorrow-for-sure-eventually-uhhh-gif-1449581977852559422

We've waited this long, we can wait a few more weeks

[minor jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927558813224153128.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[grizzled plank]

We'll hopefully won't

[limber idol]

Yeah I'm hoping that too, I'm just saying we're so close that we can ride it out

[deep wing]

Guys I'm not even joking anymore it's almost definitely December 20th

[limber idol]

I doubt they'll cut it that close again. But what do I know, I'm not a game dev.

[minor jay]

I'm not a game dev either, but they probably have an internal date they're aiming for, unless something catastrophic happens that'd warrant a delay.

[devout valley]

I talked with my uncle and he says it'll come out 1159 pm dec 31

[warm tendon]

can confirm I was the uncle

[pallid onyx]

No cap

[frigid mist]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7194125

[raw yarrow]

guys it was confirmed b42 is gonna release december 32th

[open vessel]

when are they gonna add these Spiffo backpacks to vanilla?

[orchid eagle]

I want a maggot backpack!

[finite turtle]

with the new gun changes is it just mechanic changes like damage and accuracy or is it more like what advanced trajectory does

[open vessel]

closest thing to a maggot I could find. Maggot duffel bag would be cool

Spiffo plushies attached to a backpack should also be vanilla

[silk pasture]

I thought it was just gonna be balancing

Making guns more effective at lower levels

Also no more stun-locking in multiplayer

[orchid eagle]

Ok i need one irl lol

[finite turtle]

fire

i dont remember, but with the new grappling system and combining models together in b42, will we see combat animations actually hitting zombies and colliding with them?

i mean like can we see our meat cleavers actually hit a zombie and get lodged in them in live action

its hard to explain

[candid sparrow]

Yes, i think so

[snow nimbus]

Agreed, and I need me a rubber ducky to attach to my backpack as well

[open vessel]

[open vessel]

only info we've gotten about guns is from https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/03/zaumby-thursday/ and https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/02/leapdoid/

[indigo bane]

are these new ?

[snow nimbus]

yes

[native bronze]

I'm out of beta blockers

[snow nimbus]

murder more zombies and get more!

[late jackal]

Only as long as there's a button that makes the legs move like it's alive

[open vessel]

seeing the bullet trajectory in the vid, might still be RNG as to what body part is hit. Video probably didn't wanna spoil if there's a crosshair tho so we'll see. Hope they talk about this addition more in depth in the next Thursdoid

[tawny quarry]

Tomorrow is december 5th

There will be only 4 times the amount of times we have waited for christmas

Or something like that

B42 is coming.

[indigo bane]

i would say that we just have to wait the same amount of times x 2

cause i think b42 is releasing the 15th

[ivory pawn]

i’m holding out hope for the 10th as it’s the same day as when build 41 released, while unlikely it’d be cool

[native bronze]

I wouldn't expect hunting to be very polished yet based on the feedback they shared from the closed test.

[tawny quarry]

Honestly the 15th is reasonable

[bitter obsidian]

I'm expecting sometime around the 20th

So they can utilise all the time they can to get as much polish into the unstable build as they can

[finite turtle]

20th would make sense

[pallid onyx]

B42 before gta6 no cap

[ripe garden]

That’s the day my school ends

[fossil ivy]

They are coordinating with rockstar to drop the update when the trailer hits to give us a double aswome day

[livid iris]

Tree fiddy years ago

Who cares slow and steady is the way to go

[tawny quarry]

Yes.

[livid iris]

I am coping but it is what it is

[latent storm]

I've been thinking about getting into modding PZ for fun when 42 drops

The updated mod tools were said to come out later, correct?

[limber idol]

I would assume it's in the ??? category

[latent storm]

Alright cool

I've been learning blender so making some clothing items and stuff should be fun to experiment with

[quartz plume]

it's not really clear when they'll come out but keep in mind most modding isn't done with tis's original tools anyway, there's only certain things we need them for

[latent storm]

Very interesting

Once I play a good amount of 42 I'll try and sink my teeth into the modding scene

Any good starting tutorials?

[snow nimbus]

gimmie that map editor 🙂

my body is ready

[late verge]

I'm guessing a lot is going to change with the new patch, might be worth waiting to get some examples if you're brand new to it.

[gaunt phoenix]

Im hoping for the ??? to be actual horde migration outside of cells

[latent storm]

I agree, but also I doubt it's going to be completely reinventing the wheel

I'll be spending like the first two months just playing 42 anyway lol

Yeah zombie horde migration needs a big tune up

[gaunt phoenix]

If modding tools get released that allow us to mod in randomly generated pathways like what animal trails are gonna be like in b42 I dont see why you couldnt make hordes of zombies follow similar random paths out into the wilderness

[latent storm]

It's too easy to be gamed by the player now

[gaunt phoenix]

Im willing to bet money that that would happen

Or at least be possible

[latent storm]

That poses an interesting question

Are zombies more or less intelligent than wild animals?

Or about on par?

[gaunt phoenix]

Depends on the type of zombie lol

[latent storm]

Because if zombies are dumber than deer they won't need very elegant pathing

[gaunt phoenix]

Ones that can open doors are definitely smart

[latent storm]

Just the average zombo, no sandbox settings

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah as smart as an animal I think

But yeah something that would be cool is to integrate hordes roaming the wilderness

[latent storm]

It would be really really awesome to observe a large migrating hords

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[latent storm]

The problem is how do you implement that in a fun and balanced way

Maybe it could be something player-influenced, by ringing church bells or something

[gaunt phoenix]

Idk I think it would be balanced if they're small hordes of 20-50 zs

This is just an example but you could have zones that pull zs together which are naturally going to have a large amount of zombies, such as traffic jams

And then they go on their randomized pathing, eventually leading back to the origin

Thats pretty much what the deer etc. are going to do

https://youtu.be/o1X7d34_c8Q

[late verge]

@latent storm If it helps, this is a cut of Hydrocraft's carts and dollys that I did to get them working on a private server. It at least gives you the basics of the current way of adding objects, sprites, etc. https://github.com/rgooch42/PZ_HCCartsFork

[latent storm]

Hey, thanks!

[late verge]

No problem. I ran into the same issue trying to learn. Not a lot of documentation, so I did a lot of trial and error.

I had to find it and stick it in git. Heh.

[latent storm]

Good to know; is code written in Lua or Java, or a mix?

[quartz plume]

lua

[mortal kernel]

this

i would appreciate so much

[rancid moss]

Bummer that B42 release won’t have multiplayer

[eager wyvern]

Just be more patient, and it will come.

[mortal kernel]

B41 didn't have it either at launch

so just explore and git gud in sp

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-git-gud-get-good-ffxiv-naoshi-gif-13847165373415515859

^the rabbits in B42

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-lilly-lilly-bunny-rabbit-cute-bunny-gif-494056973115590765

A pack of manhunting rabbits has appeared

[winter crane]

No multi player, but is there gonna be split screen co-op?

[indigo bane]

i think so

split screen worked on the first release of B41

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-rabbit-bunny-gif-11190286

[fallow igloo]

Good idea, but i think we should not complicate it more

At leas as in right now

I only hate how stupidly fast batteries drain

In flashlights

[vague tangle]

a nuclear reactor is not enough to power 2 flashlights

[limber idol]

Considering how they're making the night darker and have done more work on flashlights, I hope they rebalanced the lifespan.

[vague tangle]

made it even shorter

i didnt see any info about it but i hope we will get glowsticks in b42

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/glow-party-hard-anime-gif-5504739

Zomboid raves

[vague tangle]

near a mall full of zombies

[limber idol]

What's a rave without someone getting torn to shreds?

[vague tangle]

lonely rave

[minor jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872198687512727583/900798371210612736/image0.gif

Alert! Alert!

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-alert-gif-7762498

[minor jay]

It's a thursday.

[limber idol]

Hell yeah brother

[minor jay]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-arnold-schwarzenegger-carl-weathers-gif-17765053

[earnest stirrup]

The past builds have been released always on Thursday or it this isn't a rule?

[sly lark]

wait

they will release in 15th?!?!

if it was joke

im gonna cry

please tell me if real

[warm pecan]

we have no idea

the devs just said they plan to release it before christmas

[sly lark]

i know

but idk days in dec

[warm pecan]

yeah but no idea for an exact date

[sly lark]

if he delayed

game would be take long update

[limber idol]

All we know that we're likely to get it before Christmas, but it's not a guarantee.

It might be right before, it might be today, we don't know.

Didn't B41 drop on December 20th?

[pallid onyx]

Just have faith

[limber idol]

Ok Dutch

[grim flare]

I just hope we get horses for the final release

[limber idol]

They said horses won't be in this update

Oh wait you meant the final release of the game

[grim flare]

I meant the final release of B42

[limber idol]

Oh lol

Yeah they said horses are a big NO for this update. If they add them it'll be further down the line after animals are pretty much bug free

[sly lark]

i think there have wild horse

[latent storm]

Nope

[limber idol]

No? unless they've kept that a complete secret, there's no horses

[latent storm]

We have the horse car mod

[sly lark]

nahh it look weird

leg start spin

[latent storm]

Wdym it's perfect

[grim flare]

Source? I remember they saying there wouldn't be horses in unstable release, but I don't remember them not being included in B42 at all

[sly lark]

nah i dont

cuz leg have spin when i move

[limber idol]

I know it sounds like I'm just pulling shit out my ass, but it was one of the staff talking on here awhile back. They said horses weren't featured in this update because they're more complex than the other animals because you'd have to deal with stuff like riding, saddles, other horse related things. Also combine that with the fact they've shown zero horses during this whole B42 process it just makes sense they won't e adding horses soon.

[earnest stirrup]

I think is also possible they will release it earlier, like around 10.

If things work would make more sense release before the holidays approach to squash bugs you wouldn't find on a closed test..

...but I read previously is have been released around. 20 December so...

[sly lark]

late is better for horse

nvm

wrong replay sry

[earnest stirrup]

I know 🙂

Horse would open to complex mechanics like caravan I suppose

[latent storm]

Build 41s last update was Dec 20th 2 years ago

[sly lark]

lol

[sly lark]

2 YEARS AGO?

[grim flare]

I won't be playing B42 then. I want to ride a horse into Louisville while dressed as a sheriff

[latent storm]

Ofc that doesn't mean it's releasing on the 20th but it's interesting

[latent storm]

Go play Red Dead then

[sly lark]

that pretty long update

[earnest stirrup]

That's my fear. May be will release it again on 20.

[sly lark]

if they add deaf zombie or blind

[earnest stirrup]

What I want is animZed anyway 🙂

[grim flare]

My computer ain't good enough

[sly lark]

it would good

[latent storm]

The hell is there to fear about, that's super soon lol

[grim flare]

New tiles and mapping tools tho 🤤

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah 👍

[grim flare]

People will think those zombies are bugged lol

[earnest stirrup]

Also curius about the perimeter extension (random wild generation out of vanilla map borders), people continue to say this is uncofirmed when it seems confirmed to me

[mild orchid]

can killer rabbits really do dat..

[latent storm]

Pretty sure it's confirmed, although it wasn't in the road map so that is odd

[sly lark]

LOL

fr

but maybe blind will have diff animation

like hand trying find touch

stuff

or smth

so they can know they are blind

[pallid onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/zomboid-dog-gif-15735278909360391194

[minor jay]

Dawn of the 5th day | ~ 642 hours remain

[gloomy quest]

Will we be able to play multiplayer on the Beta?

[indigo bane]

nope for the first release

but probably with split screen

multiplayer will come later

[vague tangle]

soon

[empty summit]

First one

[ivory pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-gif-22961531

[empty summit]

Thursdoid today?

[quiet imp]

Lol what

If they do a Thursdoid at all this month it'd be on the 19th

[empty summit]

🥺

[peak dawn]

B42 drops TODAY

[minor jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1296955840099647529.webp?size=96

[pallid onyx]

[pallid onyx]

In B42 we trust

[gentle stag]

unstable b42 or gta vi trailer 2 which first

[vague tangle]

considering that theyve released a dlc trailer for gta online, i think unstable is more likely

[indigo bane]

B42 > GTA6

i'd say B41 > GTA6

[abstract oak]

No B42 today, no Thursdoid today. You're welcome.

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-monkey-wake-up-wake-up-monkey-gif-12354123722088999652

[gentle stag]

👍

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-corner-alone-sad-gif-5204367990821503952

[earnest stirrup]

Yes when devs add dogs they ufficially they must keep this animation, it's awesome 😎😁

[scenic python]

nah, this is creepy as hell

[pallid onyx]

Lmao

[gleaming ivy]

And between days 12-16? Or... 19 maybe

Em soul Filcher....

[karmic glade]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

Everyone of us for the next 20 days

[grim flare]

Just release it already. It's the unstable release. It isn't unstable enough or what? Smh

[deep wing]

PZ community managers after dropping either a cryptic message or a sentence with a morsel of information in the latest thursdoid discussion thread

[gleaming ivy]

Can someone help me? Was there any change or balancing in the Combat in Project Zomboid? I’ve been looking through several blogs and can’t find any information. This is for an informational video, if anyone can assist.

[mortal kernel]

you're joking right ?

[cerulean jungle]

My body is ready

For b42

[gleaming ivy]

No? Any problem?

I don't speak perfectly english, it's so hard found information in English.

[mortal kernel]

read last 2 blog posts

[gleaming ivy]

Dude, I read.

[mortal kernel]

really? cause I don't think so

[gleaming ivy]

yeah, I read that

[grizzled plank]

There is also a new way of shooting in hunting video, if you haven't added it yet

I don't recall explanation about it as it was about hunting, but it looked different

[gleaming ivy]

“I like the brutalness of the combat, in terms of combat fatigue, needing to rest more, and training that skill up as you progress.”

I checked the latest blog about the testers' feedback, and I found a comment regarding Combat. Now I'm curious.

[gleaming ivy]

Okay, I read this part, but the issue with this 'muscle strain' wasn't very understandable to me, due to the Google translation. Do you understand now?

[gleaming ivy]

.

[grizzled plank]

Nothing we heard before

Unless they're talking about stamina exhertion moodle, therse no such thing as muscle strain

[gleaming ivy]

Yeah. Fatigue

[primal crystal]

Aren't the excersise debuffs muscle strain? I assumed it was something similar, if not the same. Just guessing though, obviously.

[grizzled plank]

If its something new, i would expect it to be a shorter bar for swinging only. So you don't swing infinite just because you got fitness 10

[median cedar]

I am actually curios if they still working on the system of affinity

[mortal kernel]

guys muscle strain is a new mechanic

to change how you handle hordes

[old flint]

The muscle strain will be interesting, it was always weird seeing people swing constantly

[gleaming ivy]

I'm glad you understood, my friend. There are ignorant people, it's hard to explain to them.

[grizzled plank]

to prevent sounds more accurate

[mortal kernel]

prevent what ?

[old flint]

The walking backwards and killing 250 zeds will hopefully be eliminated

[grizzled plank]

So glad if i been hlep

[grizzled plank]

Killing hordes?

[gleaming ivy]

I make videos for my Project Zomboid blog, and I’ve never seen anything about this 'muscle strain' expression, that’s why I got confused, wondering if it could be a new emoji or if, when you hit a zombie, your character would experience constant combat fatigue.

[mortal kernel]

you can still take on hordes, just it won't be the same like using the chair cheese etc resting getting back endurance, fighting again and so on, this loop will break

[karmic glade]

I’m hoping that strength is going to increase if you get muscle fatigue fighting zombies, would make sense

[eager wyvern]

Will Build 42 have new model animations where, if the player exercises enough, the human model will grow muscles?

Abs will look more toned.

Men, women, all will be toned.

[grizzled plank]

I don't recall such thing

[eager wyvern]

....ok

Build 43 it is!

[rancid moss]

Lmao

[gleaming ivy]

I don't Idea XD

It's a good Idea for Modders

[gleaming ivy]

They already considered adding tattoos and even had the models for them, but they discarded the idea.

[grizzled plank]

Gooood to learn

[gleaming ivy]

I had the photos, but they were on another account. They deleted the photos from the website.

[grizzled plank]

Ah dang it, would be interesting

[gleaming ivy]

You know there will be computers, right?

Working

Cars with interiors.

[thick onyx]

Yeah I figured the same thing. Figure you can gain muscle fatigue from swinging too much just as with overexcersize

[grizzled plank]

HuuuuuH

[ivory pawn]

There’s a mod of it already! If I remember correctly it is called "Dynamic Body Shapes"

you have to install it manually though instead of just subscribing

[gleaming ivy]

Wow. Thanks! I go see this mod

[abstract oak]

No.

[vernal folio]

Oddly specific request

[indigo bane]

Will the B42 be a good update ?

[gleaming ivy]

This muscle strain issue, would it be the fatigue that would start to be more persistent during a fight against a zombie?

[fallen phoenix]

when b42 comes out & women arent jacked *kicks a rock*

[vernal folio]

Guess we'll have to wait for B43...

[eager wyvern]

Alright, thanks. Glad this is confirmed.

[open vessel]

will muscle fatigue also apply to other repetitive actions such as (un)loading loot to or from a trunk, or if I were to saw 15+ logs consecutively?

[finite turtle]

i forward that question

[ember crane]

Not at this juncture

[candid sparrow]

I think its somenthing specifically to nerf some combat mechanics that aren't real

And transform guns in somenthing actually useful

[covert ibex]

does your fitness and strength factor into muscle strain from combat?

i feel like it should

BC a fit and strong person wouldnt get sore from killing 15 zomboids

[open vessel]

yeah, would make sense for exercise fatigue and muscle strain to consider fitness and strength (likely what they're going for), and maybe it'll encourage more players to engage with the exercise mechanic (burpees, push-up, squats, etc..)

[eager wyvern]

So many good questions about muscle fatigue.
I'm now just hoping the December Thursdoid explains how muscle fatigue works.

[edgy notch]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[eager wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-12358308896192153975