WhatZ Next

[indigo bane]

[pulsar tinsel]

with ur pfp u must rly like chatgpt

ernie ibn abdullah

[indigo bane]

not really, this picture wasn't made by chatgpt

[pulsar tinsel]

i rly wanted vending machine atleast rip

actually what am i saying its useless without MP

[pulsar tinsel]

ai at the least

[indigo bane]

well, image generator and chat gpt is totally different

[pulsar tinsel]

chatgpt owns dalle3

[late jackal]

I mean, it's still a cool layer of immersion

[pulsar tinsel]

an image generator

[indigo bane]

chat gpt USES dalle3 indeed

like it can use any other addon

[late jackal]

And it opens the gateway for a lot of interesting machine interactions

Maybe reworking other machines like TVs

[pulsar tinsel]

"erm its actually openAI not chatgpt"
same thing man

[edgy hawk]

The UIs for this shit is what shines

[pulsar tinsel]

i wouldnt care to set it up without multiplayer, vending machines atleast

spiffo juice farm would be cool

player run economy is the best so i hope they see the vision for that

[indigo bane]

not realy but ok

[edgy hawk]

It'll only ever kick in late game though. Or on maps that start with fuck all loot

Actually thats another thing i cant recall 😅 if loot distro is gettin any love with b42

Im sure there was mention of it being touched up so that where you find things make more sense

[open vessel]

pretty sure it is

[edgy hawk]

Though i never really had any complaints about that. More just general abundance

[cyan rivet]

less abundance, all sledges and m16s are to be dumped into the Grand Ohio River

[edgy hawk]

Ngl i hope we can dismantle or own constructions without the needs for a sledge

Only reason i ever actively sought one in SP is for creative building freedom 😅

I prefer to get through locked doors the proper way, even if that does require a lockpicking mod lel

[pulsar tinsel]

well

ur able to make them now

so i dont think theyll be changing that

if anything nerfing

also funny u say that cuz lockpicking mod is made by the guy whos working on lockpicking as a dev lol]

[edgy hawk]

Fr, they hired em? Deserved. The interfaces and balance were sweet for a mod

Nothing like messing up the crowbar minigame and attracting a shitload of zeds

[candid sparrow]

Yes. There are a lot of know modders of the community on the team.

[open vessel]

yup. Aiteron was hired back in early 2022

[edgy hawk]

They could so easily have just done it themselves and built on it. Pretty cool of them to do it that way

[eager wyvern]

I mean, on the good side of things, you want players to first understand the new changes in Build 42 first, let them experiment the new "gameplay meta", and then once everyone knows how to play and guides are written, the devs can then open up multiplayer.

And then -> maximum understanding of the new Build 42 meta.

[open vessel]

they’re also still optimizing MP which is why it won’t be available initially + I imagine bug fixing will be easier to manage if the focus is on SP first

[dusty inlet]

is every single mod gonna need to be updated? nothing is gonna work on unstable right?

[open vessel]

yeah, they’ve mentioned that all mods will have to be updated for B42

[limber idol]

Yeah vast majority needs to be updated

[eager wyvern]

*Let's just simplify this and say "all" please.

Less letters to type.

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-2538181611523084558

[unkempt acorn]

No multiplayer at launch of b42?

[vivid quail]

no

[unkempt acorn]

Damn I was excited to play with my gf

Guess I’ll be playin solo

[vivid quail]

compare your solo games

[unkempt acorn]

I’m gonna redownload it on my ally

Yippee

[pulsar tinsel]

wonder why they didnt mention farming in the graphic

its pretty big to me

nvm

me blind

[cyan rivet]

good thing I have no friends

[grim flare]

So... Still no confirmation about vehicles going underground?

[limber idol]

Well it's neither Launch or Later, so it's either lumped in with one of the categories or is on the backburner

[pulsar tinsel]

wasnt it just a tech demo

[grim flare]

Might be into the "underground areas" tho

[pulsar tinsel]

showing their capabilities

[grim flare]

Capabilities for what?

[pulsar tinsel]

are you talking about the ramps?

[grim flare]

Yes

I want underground garages

Like, I know the video we saw about it was just a test and wasn't confirmed for B42... But what were they trying to show then?

[pulsar tinsel]

whatever they captioned with it

not sure where the blog is

[limber idol]

Proof of conecpt is my best guess

[snow nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thfgbPM-oRw

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/01/hmm-upgradez/

mostly a proof of concept for now

[limber idol]

Imagine someome modding in a MarioKart course, one of the crazy ones that has like 5 stories

[snow nimbus]

that is the dream

Wario Stadium

lets goooo

[limber idol]

Double Dash my beloved

Nintendo you cowards, make another one

[snow nimbus]

I prefered 64, but I can appreciate Double Dash

[limber idol]

64 was fun

[snow nimbus]

I didn't like it when I first played it, but I like it a lot more now

[eager wyvern]

I guess this is our Build 43 feature. 😭

[snow nimbus]

or later down the road of B42

maybe in the realm of the ??? section

[limber idol]

Speaking of the Later section, I wonder why Raccoons are on there while the rest of wildlife will be in Launch

[empty summit]

where can i see a list of the animals

[fossil ivy]

Let’s be honest, we want a functioning lawn mower

[limber idol]

The animals that we know for sure that are being added (from Thursdoids) are:
Cows
Pigs
Sheep
Chickens
Rabbits
Rats
Mice
Raccoons
Turkey
Deer

I might be forgetting a couple, feel free to correct me

[empty summit]

Raccoon later because they’ll prob have extra features like them digging in a trashcan as a raccoon typically does

[limber idol]

I like how they tease a raccoon skin cap in the Thursdoid but then tell us raccoons won't be in until later

[covert loom]

pet racoons

[tawny quarry]

Racoon army to use against the zomboids

[covert loom]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-gif-19209535

[empty summit]

Woulda been cool to see more dangerous game animal like mountain lions and black bears

[covert loom]

I am concerned about the CPU when it comes to rabbits breeding and the large population of them

[empty summit]

who knows, maybe you can get consumed by a swarm of rats or rammed by a deer

[covert loom]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-island-japan-rabbits-bunnies-run-gif-3531854

[tawny quarry]

I hope modders can add in animals

[empty summit]

And coyotes

[covert loom]

it would be nice to have some natural predators for other wild animals like foxes imagine hunting them

[empty summit]

And bobcats

[limber idol]

Snakes for making snakeskin belts

And snake meat for stew

Mmmm, snake meatand dandelion roast

[empty summit]

A proper ecosystem

[covert loom]

raccoons could pray on chickens and thier eggs.

[empty summit]

Deers actually consume grass tiles giving them a mechanical reason to migrate around

would be so epico

flying birds too fr fr

[tawny quarry]

I wonder if zeds are skinnable

[limber idol]

I'm imagining that happening the way Minecraft sheep do

[covert loom]

hopfully trapping wild birds should be invalid in the winter seasons and less bird singing noises in the ambience.

[empty summit]

Im sure someone will make a mod like that

[covert loom]

imagine using zombie bones to make weapons

[empty summit]

or who knows, aren’t they adding bone weapons?

[tawny quarry]

There are wierder mods out there

[limber idol]

I know they're adding bone clothes

[empty summit]

I remember seeing that as a crafting material on their weapon thursdoid

[tawny quarry]

Wouldn't be surprised

[empty summit]

hacksaw

[covert loom]

I wonder if fishing will be harder for winter seasons.

hunting during the winter seasons will be interesting.

[empty summit]

water will freeze

[limber idol]

Probably, it already has a massive decrease in B41

[orchid rover]

once you try hard fishing mods you'll think vanilla zomboid is a breeze

[covert loom]

since the fishing will have a new minigame most likely for the fishing rod feature and not sure how the spear fishing will be different.

[limber idol]

Quick time events

Lol

That would certainly be something

[empty summit]

They should add crayfish and mollusk catching

[covert loom]

catching some mussels would be excellent

[empty summit]

when the project zomboid swimming and aquatic update

build 500

[covert loom]

glad for all the new fish species coming in build 42

[limber idol]

Certainly beats the current 7 we have right now

And who knows, we might have more than what's seen in the pic!

[covert loom]

I hope the pike fish returns

[empty summit]

zombie fish

zombie animals

swarm of zombie rats chasing you down

[limber idol]

Probably, of the 7we currently have only the Trout and Pike aren't in your pic.
(Unless I'm blind)

[covert loom]

its nice to see the fish with proper species names a nice attention to detail

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-impressive-gif-13646207769991612852

[covert loom]

new mushrooms for build 42.

[limber idol]

You know I completely forgot about those

God there's so much someone will have one heck of a time doing a full recap

[covert loom]

mushrooms and berries hopefully can have species names and not bland naming of items.

[empty summit]

Cordyceps fungus

[limber idol]

But will they still have randomized poison?

I know there's a couple of exceptions to the randomization

[covert loom]

top row I see Turkey Tail , destroying angel or death cap , morel and Oyster.

[limber idol]

Poisonous mushrooms and berries go into the composter like the naughty food they are

[covert loom]

bottom row I see puffballs, chanterelles , fly amanita and enoki.

[empty summit]

Might be able to make medicinal stuff with em’ cause of the new fluid system

[limber idol]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-heavy-hmmm-not-sure-perchance-gif-16032460

[covert loom]

I always compost poisonous mushrooms and berries

I wonder if animal poop can be composted to fertilizer.

[limber idol]

Did you know that acorns take a full year to go bad?

[limber idol]

I wouldn't be surprised if it sped it up at least

[covert loom]

Acorns irl are toxic and needing to leech their toxins before human could eat it

[limber idol]

Wacc

[empty summit]

fr?

Coulda sworn i ate a few of those when i was a kid 😂

[limber idol]

It would certainly explain why you're playing this game lol

[covert loom]

Acorns contain a toxin called Tannin

[empty summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[limber idol]

I'm telling you guys, you need a wee bit of something special in your brain to enjoy this game

[covert loom]

https://www.webmd.com/diet/are-acorns-safe-to-eat

I am suprised we dont spore print mushoorm to identfiy and compare if they are poisonous or safe to eat in PZ.

[covert ibex]

theyre safe you just need to boil away the shit that makes it bitter and then you can eat them

[long canopy]

quick question will the unstable version be multiplayer?

[covert ibex]

no

[long canopy]

Ripp

[empty summit]

huh

Im pretty sure it will be

[orchid rover]

there is no multiplayer

[snow nimbus]

It won't launch with MP

[orchid rover]

for unstable

[snow nimbus]

But they will add it eventually

[orchid rover]

^

[snow nimbus]

Note the later column

[vague tangle]

why raccoons are delayed

[snow nimbus]

That is a question that only TIGS can answer

[vague tangle]

and what is under question marks

[sage hound]

i believe it's a little ridiculous they have taken this long for b42, they should've focused this update more, like for example, strictly crafting related or strictly lighting, or basements or NPCs

[vague tangle]

npcs are gonna be in b43

[sage hound]

point still stands

[snow nimbus]

More things they have yet to announce or have shown off but are not quite ready

[jagged jolt]

they have different teams for each feature

not everyone's working on the same thing

and some things are more complex to add

[sage hound]

again, i believe they should've had a more focused update

[orchid wolf]

Loser

[open vessel]

they need to code in orange raccoons that are extremely rare and difficult to catch (probably unable to be killed), and steal your trash and food to a greater degree compared to generic raccoons

[orchid wolf]

Just let it happen as they want it to

[sage hound]

focusing on one or few aspects to update/add

[snow nimbus]

They have a focused update, they talked about the pillars of the update way back in 2022

They have pretty much stuck to it

[vague tangle]

barricading the fridge

[sage hound]

what are you gonna do if I don't?

[snow nimbus]

In TIGS we trust

[open vessel]

exactly and locks for crates. They’ll also be very difficult to track and extremely fast when being pursued. They burrow into our basements and everything! They got big plans for raccoons!

[edgy hawk]

Probably revel in the knowledge that it changes nothing

[vague tangle]

raccoon king destroying every dumpster in its way

[snow nimbus]

But I need those garbage bags!

[vague tangle]

as hes consuming food and dumpsters he grows

[edgy hawk]

How else are they gonna do their kerbside pickup

Frickin backpacks?

[open vessel]

orange raccoons will likely be Knox Infection vectors too so careful not to get scratched or bitten by them

[edgy hawk]

[honest edge]

Hyped 😃😅

[open vessel]

don’t bother planting strawberries, corn, peas, potatoes, and beans since they’ll just eat them whenever we leave our base

[orchid wolf]

Nothing your just a loser

[rose herald]

multiplayer is also delayed?

[sage hound]

you're*

[vague tangle]

nah its just coming later

[edgy hawk]

Cant be delayed if it was never planned to be there

[orchid wolf]

Go complain some more about why the game sucks because they won’t do it your way

Literal toddler

[edgy hawk]

Watch out, this toddler knows proper grammar

[sage hound]

Thinking that constructive criticism is "complaining" is immature, making you the only one here that's the toddler.

I'm just saying that if they lowered the amount of things they worked on in this update, they would've been able to push it out slightly faster. I'm not one that needs constant updates for a game to stay relevant, but the last major update being soon to be 3 years is a little ridiculous.

[edgy hawk]

Constructive criticism generally foregoes descriptors such as: ridiculous

[vague tangle]

we wouldve waited longer for 43 build and u would have complained anyway

[snow nimbus]

Later column

But it has been mentioned that was the case several Thursdoids ago as well

[quartz plume]

a crafting rework genuinely necessitates changes to 99% of the game's core systems

the entire game needs to be balanced around it for it to work

the large scale was necessary

[vague tangle]

and despite b42 not even been released i think it was worth it

[opal adder]

not 100% sure on what romero-like spawn means

what does that mean?

[snow nimbus]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/09/heat-of-the-night/ it is discussed in this Thursdoid

basically modifying the zombie heat map to be more attuned to what you might actually find irl/a romero movie vs what we have now which is zombies everywhere

[opal adder]

oh alright

that sounds solid, but it looks like it'll spawn less total

[vague tangle]

finally no more dying from a horde that is next to ur house when u spawn

[covert ibex]

I’ve never understood where this screenshot in the preview is supposed to be at tbh

[covert loom]

Town size zombie hordes spawning in rural areas made no sense.

[snow nimbus]

it's Muldraugh

[opal adder]

muldraugh sideways

i thought it was westpoint lmfao

[snow nimbus]

[edgy hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/whoo-hoo-woo-owl-funny-gif-13253240

[covert ibex]

It makes spawning in valley station absolute hell

Bc typically you don’t have much weaponry or a car bc of how valley station is

[quartz plume]

i'm just praying for the roads to be driveable

[covert ibex]

I hope zombies clog them

[open vessel]

roads outside of the big cities/towns will likely be more safe to drive on following that change

[vague tangle]

i lost 3 cars cuz of my engine dying after crashing into zombies

[open vessel]

now we’ll be crashing into the occasional deer

[vague tangle]

imagine if they will mess up deer spawn rates and all roads are gonna be covered in them

[quartz plume]

that's dinner

[earnest cipher]

wonder why breakable metal fences are being delayed 🤔

not complaining, just wonder why

[quartz plume]

answer is probably a very boring 'just not finished'

[covert ibex]

Higher priorities

[earnest cipher]

That's fair

[open vessel]

they’ve talked about it a bit back in March. Crowding and banging visuals are/were being worked on

[snow nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB-EFFMhS-c

[open vessel]

but yeah, probably not a priority rn like someone mentioned

[snow nimbus]

yea back in march it looked kind of jank

probably still tweaking it

[eager zephyr]

i hope we can cobble together armor and weapons on launch like they said

[open vessel]

don’t think anyone’s mentioned it yet, but maybe functional masks will be later

https://youtu.be/fcMlwffzvuw

[vague tangle]

i wonder what happened to fire and smoke

[snow nimbus]

https://bsky.app/profile/theindiestone.bsky.social/post/3kjqcnauvml22

The Indie Stone (@theindiestone.bsky.social)

Unfortunately it's unlikely at this point, as we had to move those coders onto other tasks for now. It's still possible, but not something we're promising :)

Ecn (@ecnz.bsky.social)
Did the fire rework not make it in?

Bluesky · Jan 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

[vague tangle]

oh

[snow nimbus]

I have an answer for you 🙂

Yuri moved back to working on MP instead sadly

Hoping one day we get the fire rework

[vague tangle]

i think fire and smoke will be the only pixelated things in the game

[snow nimbus]

pretty much

At this point it is one of the oldest mechanics not touched since the tech demo

[vague tangle]

i think ash will be left pixelated too

[open vessel]

reading material like this for HottieZ? That would be fire

[vague tangle]

age rating:

[open vessel]

lol they tweeted this back then

[vague tangle]

r34 magazines incoming

[robust shell]

Forgot to question this but will remote play also be unavailable for unstable?

[snow nimbus]

should be available

[robust shell]

for local host?

[snow nimbus]

local host would just be splitscreen

remote play is a function of steam that they can enable or disable if they want but I don't see why they would

so yea it should work

LAN mp would be disabled though

[robust shell]

oh I meant like host multiplayer, not dedicated server

[snow nimbus]

ah

[robust shell]

Ah

[snow nimbus]

yea no that would be disabled as well

[robust shell]

well I guess remote play will suffice, ty!

[snow nimbus]

❤️

[old flint]

Knowing it’s a possibility we will have our hands on it within 2-3 weeks is exciting

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/off-work-to-readiness-intensifies-stare-gif-13479230

[open vessel]

only bugs I’ll be reporting are the ones I find while foraging

[old flint]

I’m happy the foraging zones have been redone

[quiet imp]

So hyped to play ProjectFarmer

[snow nimbus]

N E W G R A S S

[old flint]

The new grass does look very nice

[snow nimbus]

now the trees need updating again

[slow yarrow]

have sweet potatoes been considered an addition to farming? they'd make for good fries (I like sweet potato fries)

[open vessel]

would be neat to find some fallen trees and/or hollow logs laden with mushrooms and bugs

[snow nimbus]

that would be amazing tbh

I was thinking about the mapping tools, and I want to do a forest map thing, and a river kind of semi dividing it with fallen trees as ways to cross would be pretty neat

waiting for B42 to see if they update the tools

[fallen phoenix]

every unimplemented feature is part of a conspiracy to get more complaints. what do they do with those complaints? u dont wanna know...

[open vessel]

add a bunch of frogs and name it Frog Forest

perhaps a nearby cave/tunnel system

[snow nimbus]

[open vessel]

Thursdoids just mentioned potatoes (nothing about sweet potatoes yet). In regards to potatoes, not sure if it’s just one generic potato plant or if there’ll be potato variants

edit: sweet potatoes and potatoes are indeed not related. Potatoes come from the nightshade, and sweet potatoes from the morning glory family

[slow yarrow]

yeah, sweet potatoes are like a completely different plant to regular potatoes (they're not like related to each other I think)

[snow nimbus]

We do have potatoes already so possible

Though I will say I didn't encounter a sweet potato or yam fry until like early 2000s

Not that they can't be added

[slow yarrow]

yeah, it's one of those things that make cooking a little bit more in depth but it's not like many people are like "man, I could go for some sweet potato right about now"

very good option though

[open vessel]

there was a tweet about a cooking overhaul sometime post-B42 so we could possibly see even more new crops and/or variations to existing crops

[cobalt kraken]

I hate how atomic duck approaches release dates. "Im sure we will all be fine if its just a week or two more we have to wait"

1. The devs have no obligation to keep developing this game and they could devote their attention to any other project with their earnings. We dont know how much of it really is "passion for the game"
2. The product will be released unfinished regardless because people (especially youtubers who profit from it) are impatient.
3. He is putting pressure on the devs as he is making a video with 2 ads and patreon mentions about their game.

Literally nibbling at the hand that feeds him

[dense axle]

To me it sounds like he means it wouldn't be that bad if it was delayed for a couple of weeks. Am I missing something?

Also there's nothing wrong with being impatient about something you're excited about.

[cobalt kraken]

Yes. He has clearly voiced his impatience in the past so I choose to interpret this as "we will not get angry if the delay is a week or two"

[dense axle]

He's just voicing how he and a major chunk of community feels, if not him who else will voice these opinions?

[cobalt kraken]

But for an audience of like 80k people it makes an atmosphere of contentiousness

[cobalt kraken]

Have you concidered not being so ungrateful?

No "but I love the game I just want it to be out sooner"

The devs are trying to develop the game to be more enjoyable as we speak and you know it

[dense axle]

Ungrateful? I'm sorry if I have opinions of my own that do not resonate with your own and that hurts you.

[cobalt kraken]

Nice shallow response

[dense axle]

At the end of the day devs get to make that call if they wanna entertain anyone's opinions. It's not my game or atomic ducks or anyone else for that matter. Devs are perfectly capable of judging for themselves what's best for their game.

[snow nimbus]

It is pretty obvious to me that everyone who works on the game are pretty passionate about it

[cobalt kraken]

If so maybe they wont be so passionate when there are communities of adults acting like needy children provoking them

[snow nimbus]

It's nothing new, before B41 came out there was a subreddit called PZ scam that provoked and shit talked them constantly, they always said B41 would never release

Same thing happened constantly on the old forums (pre2013 refresh)

[zealous topaz]

it is the devs game and they havent really made any official promises to us abt the release date

but i also agree with alphabee all atomic duck is doing is hes voicing the communities opinions and from a buisness standpoint id argue releasing b42 faster would make the game more popular and get more sales

[snow nimbus]

There will always be a subsection of the community that will be like, it's like that with every game... And every aspect of life. It is part of the human experience

[zealous topaz]

he wasnt being confrontative or anything

[zealous topaz]

very true

[quartz plume]

if they could simply choose when b42 is ready for release it'd be out already

[zealous topaz]

well technically they could

it just wouldnt be very good

[quartz plume]

as much as releasing things quickly might be good for them, releasing things in a crappy state is bad for them

[zealous topaz]

exactly

i think theyre very focused on getting a quality product out and im sure its gonna be great but i think the people anxious for it to get release have a good reason too they have a passion for game as well

[grizzled plank]

What kind of response is this lmao.

[snow nimbus]

With the way people consume media these days big updates are better imo, otherwise they move on super quickly

[zealous topaz]

thats what i was thinking

it seemed a little over the top to me

[ancient raft]

extremely lmfao

[snow nimbus]

😂

[ancient raft]

like it’s a videogame it’s not that serious

[zealous topaz]

lol

and hes not a developer or anything either

just a random dude

[snow nimbus]

The only thing I am super serious about is my love for The Indie Game Store ❤️

[ancient raft]

hopefully they have like logged off for a bit

[ancient raft]

mods, take them away

[snow nimbus]

😍

[grizzled plank]

Ppl are getting radical

[open vessel]

once they receive the power to play B42, they’ll become more of an exponent

[mortal kernel]

I'm curious why bc they have been shown some time ago in a blog

[grizzled plank]

Thatsss okkay, i think

[old flint]

They likely will but as far as I remember, there has been no word on when the tools will be updated.

[unkempt acorn]

Will there be NPC in the update?

[grizzled plank]

. . . . yes

[unkempt acorn]

Like even in the unstable version?

[grizzled plank]

No man no NPC's at all lol

[unkempt acorn]

Oh…

STILL?!

[grizzled plank]

🫂

[grizzled plank]

You sound like you purchased thr game and went into coma for 10 years

[unkempt acorn]

I thought they said NPC would come back😪

[grizzled plank]

Enougj nice stuff are coming, no worries

[bold junco]

There's NPCs in the form of animals but assuming you mean human NPCs, that's for Build 43

[grizzled plank]

Hopefully in 2 3 weeks

[unkempt acorn]

I don’t even wanna think about build 43

[grizzled plank]

That'd be best, yes.

[unkempt acorn]

I’ll have children and a mortgage probably by the time that update is ever coming out

[grizzled plank]

'Least youll still have a computer and PZ if steam doesnt goes bankrupt then

[unkempt acorn]

I suppose so

I’m a patient person but it comes to a point where I become less and less interested the more I wait

Who knows tho I been waiting for crimson desert since 2016 and I got so fed up with not hearing anything about it that I just gave up. Now it’s being talked about again and I’m kind excited and I hope the same will be the case for PZ

[grizzled plank]

Before christmas they said. Fingers crossed

Not exactly certain or a date

[deep wing]

I firmly believe that B42 will release 20th December 2024, 3 years on the day of B41 release

[indigo bane]

nah B42 is releasing tomorrow

[open vessel]

we are currently working on getting Unstable out before Christmas.
why is everyone assuming it’ll be this year? It could mean any Christmas of any year

[ancient hazel]

lmao

[grizzled plank]

Dont jinx it

[ancient hazel]

im excited that we are within the last month before i can pet a cow

[grizzled plank]

Before many things

[ancient hazel]

yes, before i then go pet a sheep

[wet dust]

Don't forget the mountain of new car variants

[ancient hazel]

what are the odds we will be able to find a bike?

[grizzled plank]

Wait is there new cars?

[ancient hazel]

there are at least a few. you can catch them in the images and videos

[wet dust]

Not new cars, but new skins like a dash elite cop car, more van companies etc

[ancient hazel]

thats kind of the same as a new car though

[indigo bane]

i love this town

[candid sparrow]

Beautiful

[indigo bane]

just need some fences

and it's perfect for a community

[ancient hazel]

either way, theres so many neat things im looking forward to. finally i will be able to take a break from the apocolypse on my riverside ranch and just live a simple life without being bored\

[candid sparrow]

agree

What Project Zomboid could add is NPC survival

that could be funny and awsome

• Raider NCP

NPC

[indigo bane]

yes it's planned for -> B43 - B45 @candid sparrow

[candid sparrow]

Oh awsome

but that would take another 2 years

[indigo bane]

personally i would like to have dogs and cats

[candid sparrow]

bc i have an feeling they just launch the update end of the year

[indigo bane]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-legend-dog-gif-10881760

[candid sparrow]

agree, they are good, if they bark then we know zombies are closer, but the problem he can get zombies closer

[ancient hazel]

i fully expect a dog mod within two months of release

[candid sparrow]

but idk if that would be possible if dogs can track the zombies away

[indigo bane]

Yes !

or maybe for hunting animals @candid sparrow

[candid sparrow]

you got me more curious

[indigo bane]

easier to track them

[candid sparrow]

genius bro

[candid sparrow]

cool

i already love all mods from B42

[indigo bane]

ye

[candid sparrow]

but now you made me more curious about B43 and B45

[indigo bane]

quite excited about all the new possibilities

[candid sparrow]

same

Btw how do i earn Project Zomboid Cards?

[ancient hazel]

NPC that have stories and lineages (to some degree), they can potentially offer you quests as each on will have their own goals.

thats the big part of what they are wanting to make reality

[open vessel]

buying them through the Steam community page

[candid sparrow]

Project Zomboid could add on B42 an Story mod how the zombie apocalypse has been started

[candid sparrow]

and how to get them for free?

[open vessel]

befriend people who don’t care for Steam badges/cards and they can trade for the cards you want

[candid sparrow]

not easy

bc i really wanna reach lvl 10 on Project Zomboid

to earn more 50% or 75% off Giftcard

[open vessel]

huh? We might be each referring to different cards then

[candid sparrow]

ah ojk

[ancient hazel]

that secret milityary base was doing testing on animals. a guard dog there got sick (someone mentioned it in a radio interview i think). dog went home and it likely spread from there. military tried to contain it, removing infected to other miltary facilities around the world (the other locations of mentioned outbreaks on the radio outside the USA are all locations of US military bases), which then also got sick

[candid sparrow]

but still wanna reach lvl 10

[open vessel]

what cards were you talking about? Got a pic?

[candid sparrow]

interesting

[candid sparrow]

wait

[robust shell]

Livestocks doesn't get affected by the knox

[ancient hazel]

dog isnt livestock

[candid sparrow]

check DM

[robust shell]

animals in general

[ancient hazel]

military were confiscating peopls dogs

[robust shell]

I don't see why it's only dogs

[candid sparrow]

in 2 years i will spent bit alot of money for Project Zomboid, just the owner and helpers can update the game even more

[grizzled plank]

Because theyre usefull, prooobably

[ancient hazel]

idk, its only a theory, we have no concrete evidence, but there are multiple points where people mention dogs

[candid sparrow]

check dm

[ancient hazel]

alos, if they were doing testing on dogs, then it likely mutated in them and was already designed for them

[robust shell]

that or military were anxious about animals being carriers that they just straight up gun them down

[open vessel]

oh yeah it is Steam cards. Then yeah, buy them or trade them.

I think there’s only up to level 5 tho and not sure what you mean by 50% or 75% gift card? The Steam cards and badges are mainly for collections purposes rather than getting benefits or something

[limber idol]

ATF be like:

[ancient hazel]

i think the name "Project zomboid" is the name for the project the military was working on which led to the outbreak

[candid sparrow]

i got Unturned LVL 1 and i just got for that an 50% off Sale Giftcard

[robust shell]

buuut the origins and how it works is made ambiguous anyway so, anything works

[grizzled plank]

Not goes for every game ig

[limber idol]

Imagine going to the very bottom level of the secret military base and you find a file titled "Project Zomboid"

[candid sparrow]

ik, but i wanna check if PZ will give to

if not but i still want it

[grizzled plank]

I got pz lv1 badge, nothing it gave far as i remember

[candid sparrow]

oke

[ancient hazel]

im hoping with basements and new papers we will get more lore this update

[grizzled plank]

Would be mindblowing

[ancient hazel]

just saying it was the spiffo burgers doesnt seem right to me.

[candid sparrow]

lol i just need 3 bucks

then i can reach to lvl 10 PZ

[open vessel]

yeah, previous Thursdoids have mentioned and shown glimpses that there’ll be more lore. Looking forward to what that’ll entail!

[limber idol]

Wasn't that bit of "lore" just from some crackpot they interviewed? OR was it the guy trying to sell his book?

[ancient hazel]

i want to say that was just fannon. i dont think that was even mentioned in game

its been awhile since i read all of the interviews and stuff though

[limber idol]

I noticed in the most recent one with all the flyers that the guy checking the mail had an ID card in his inventory. I forgot the name but it definitely wasn't a generic ID. Mayhaps we're getting super secret lore that requires specific items?

[ancient hazel]

ohhh an id card being a new type of key maybe?

[limber idol]

True, there's also that factor. A good recap of the lore is "the entire lore of project zomboid i guess"

[robust shell]

i was deadass looking for this img

[limber idol]

[open vessel]

[robust shell]

Speaking of that

• the secret lab in the tutorial

[limber idol]

Oh yeah I forgot about Spiffo becoming aggressive and corporate/militaristic if you screw around.

[ancient hazel]

ohhhh

[robust shell]

this is the most canon it can get

[limber idol]

I doubt it's the burgers though, from what I can tell in the lore the military was trying something but it got out of hand.

[ancient hazel]

whats at the edge of the map on the tutorial? is there a fence or anything?

[limber idol]

Yeah there's a fence around the whole thing

[ancient hazel]

thats neat!

[open vessel]

Project Zomboid is a simulation designed to train their subjects on how to survive a zombie apocalypse. If not, then it was space radiation/a meteorite that led to the Knox Infection

[robust shell]

spiffo's distributor spilling the Knox pathogen inside their meat supply for no reason:

[robust shell]

Yeahhh Romeo style

[limber idol]

Ok where does the meteroite bit come from? I keep seeing people talking about it ut I haven't seen it in game before.

[robust shell]

there are some references to meteorites in the vhs

[robust shell]

Vhs cassettes talk about them

[limber idol]

Guess I haven't found them

[open vessel]

someone did a detailed analysis of the meteorite theory on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/166hosf/i_think_i_know_what_actually_caused_the_knox/

[limber idol]

reddit

[ancient hazel]

The air. The food. Did you see the meteors?
Speaker 1: They passed me by Clare.
Speaker 2: Passed by everyone.
Speaker 1: Over their heads?
Speaker 2: Are you mocking me?
Speaker 1: Sorry Clare, it's been a long week.
Speaker 2: It's in the skies, and it's in the air we breathe.

[limber idol]

I'm taking this with a pile of salt

[ancient hazel]

this is from the knox talk radio

[limber idol]

Oh I'm talking about the reddit theory

[ancient hazel]

oh. well, it is a theory in game

i think its playing off of night of the living dead, because i think that was suppsoed to be caused by a meteor

[robust shell]

them predicting the meteorite strikes and setting up a secret research base in Knox county makes the most amount of sense here

it also explains the cockiness when they said it was "contained", they didn't expect the virus to hop outside the Knox county

[ancient hazel]

well, a normal game of zomboid how long does the infection last before you zombify? a week? so maybe some personnel got infected and ran?

[open vessel]

2-3 days before you turn iirc

[limber idol]

Could be the case, doens't help that only 1% of the population is immune to the air borne strain so bite is not needed

[robust shell]

Somalia was the first to get affected alongside Japan

maybe some soldiers from Kentucky was relocated to fight in the battle of mogadishu

[ancient hazel]

both had military bases at the time

[limber idol]

Don't forget that some people could've gotten out before they stopped all traffic.

[robust shell]

UK n South Korea too

not sure what were they doing in England

[indigo bane]

These irons deposits ? Will they exist in the first release ?

[limber idol]

Let me consult The List

[old flint]

Don’t think so it’s not on the list

[indigo bane]

Well it could be part of Blacksmithing crafting

[old flint]

Unless it comes under crafting but I doubt it

[limber idol]

Yeah it's probably unlikely

[indigo bane]

Also i can't see the new fluid system in the list

but they said it will be in the first release

[old flint]

That might come under new ui

[old flint]

Probably people flying overseas that have already contracted the virus unknowingly maybe?

[hot oasis]

where is the new fire?

[native bronze]

Could someone point me to a thursdoid that specifies the "improved gunplay" that's coming?

[limber idol]

iirc the guy working on it was moved to work on multiplayer

Saw one of the staff talking about it

[earnest stirrup]

This comment is epic!

People should pay more attention to details 😂

[earnest stirrup]

Yeah I wonder the same 🤔.

It's not clear because it isn't neither listened in what is postponed.

[tawny quarry]

Nooooo!

[open vessel]

pretty sure that iron deposits fall under randomi(s/z)ed wilderness, but hopefully a dev could come in and confirm

[earnest stirrup]

Pat will do!

[native bronze]

either that or blacksmithing. I don't recall if the idea of ore deposits was for wilderness maps only or if they'll be on knox county as well.

[grizzled tendon]

sad we wont have mp in b42 early 😥

[earnest stirrup]

If is something related to scavenging on wilderness like for stone, stick ecc..
.... Than could be also on vanilla map.

May be is a limited source that require a lot of time to be found again on the same area, involving payers to move

[open vessel]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/02/leapdoid/ and https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/03/zaumby-thursday/

[native bronze]

ty

[open vessel]

vanilla map will entail dismantling railroad tracks for iron, whereas wilderness-only maps will be iron ore deposits from what I remember being mentioned, but we’ll see how TIGS goes about it when unstable releases

[vague tangle]

i really hope that we will see trains atleast when we will colonize mars

what

[bitter obsidian]

This an available mod?

Oh they deleted it

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[bitter obsidian]

My Roomba after running into a wall

[deep wing]

20th December 2024

Remember the date guys

[warm pecan]

Billy's always right

[deep wing]

I'm not even guessing either it's exactly 3 years since they released b41 unstable

[edgy hawk]

I waz under the impression that even the vanilla map would feature ore deposits

[deep wing]

I also saw it in an otherworldly vision

[native bronze]

A skinwalker came to my door and said the exact same date. I'm sure it was talking about b42

[bitter obsidian]

They never do specific dates lol

[deep wing]

Yeah but that doesn't stop me knowing when it's coming out

[vernal folio]

It's called a premonition

[deep wing]

It was raining last night and raindrops tapped out 20/12/24 on my window so that pretty much confirms it for me

[molten urchin]

build 42 tomorrow

[stark condor]

build42 when multiplayer is ready

[candid sparrow]

B42 with just singleplayer 🙏

[grizzled plank]

👆🏽

[old flint]

Playing vanilla singleplayer gonna be great

[coarse shell]

Fr

[old flint]

With how good the new lighting is I just wanna play night time all the time

[spring osprey]

Yeah cannot wait for this patch

Gonna play a super hardcore low food, sprinters playthrough to see how far I get

[indigo bane]

this

hope split screen will still works tho like when multiplayer was disabled for B41

[native bronze]

Power cutting out will be even more of a challenge

[indigo bane]

why do you think that ?

oh ye because of light

[candid sparrow]

I've done a reddit post about fisherman profession and minigames, creating an alternative for those who are not fans of that

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/4kvRVvgJIX

[native bronze]

One of the feedbacks from internal testing was that the player was using lampposts to be able to fight the zeds at night. You won't have that respite once power grid fails

[indigo bane]

i love it

much more immersive

[native bronze]

I wonder if flashlights will affect the zeds perception on the player holding it

[indigo bane]

i just need a firethrower and it will be perfect

i think they are also revamping the fire spreading and animlation

but it won't be for this first release

i'd like more traps also

[native bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sims1fire-gif-24976260

[indigo bane]

lol that's exactly how it is for now

[old flint]

How could you not like the fishing mini game? The current b41 way of fishing rn is inferior to the b42 version.

[grizzled plank]

Atleast- b42 got a mechanic

[ember crane]

Mfw I dip into Discord

[grizzled plank]

That character is oddly familiar...but i can't tell

[vague tangle]

can we eat it?

[candid sparrow]

I don't like it because i don't want to have to put effort in simply catch a fish to eat. I don't know what you are reffering to "inferior", because it depends of a point of view. I like the fishing how is right now cause i don't care for fishing, i just want my character somenthing to eat. So thats why i was trying to make a discussion to make the minigame only for fishermens, cause it was the focus of the profession. Otherwise, people who put effort in the minigame will be rewarded, while people who don't like the minigame and just want somenthing to eat will catch medium to little fishes.

I'm not a fan of the idea that everything need a complex mechanic to be enjoyed to play. But i do agree that the minigame will be a good alternative for those who like to play as fishermens.

[deft crest]

Valid

[ember crane]

That's for mods

[vague tangle]

ok

[vernal folio]

The end goal of project zomboid, I think

Truly free

[old flint]

Yeah the way I see it the main reason people probably don’t like the new mini game is because they don’t want to put the effort in. Harsh but it’s what I think.

People who are fisherman or higher skill into should have an easier time playing the mini game because they are skilled those who are not shouldn’t be able to catch fish as easy. If you don’t like it then find other food, there will be plenty other ways in b42.

[candid sparrow]

I think they will just add a sandbox option to disable, in the end, after all so...

[old flint]

Nah definitely a skill issue if you can’t win the mini game

It’s similar to the way stardew valley does fishing

[vernal folio]

Yeah a minigame for something like fishing is very fair. It becomes a skill to develop and a challenge to overcome

[old flint]

It’s not like it’s going to be impossible. If you’ve played stardew valley and fished in that game then it looks like it’ll be familiar.
Plus none of us have had our hands on b42 version so you can’t really say you hate it without trying it out.

[candid sparrow]

I know that. My point its not that its hard. Its that people don't want to put effort to catch a fish to eat sometimes. So, i know indiestone will put a sandbox option to disable it if you want it.

[old flint]

Be lazy and lose out I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️ I hope they don’t have a sandbox option for it.

[candid sparrow]

We will see, when b42 is out

[gleaming ivy]

😋 I love cookies

[orchid eagle]

ahahhahah

i was like wth are those cookies? and will we be able to eat them

[candid estuary]

you can pet the animals

this is 100% gonna be worth the wait

[livid iris]

Theres way way wayy more than that

[latent mulch]

yeah like kidnapping them, I laughed a lot when Amz just yoinked one of the little sheeps lol

I wonder if we try to grab a baby animal from a wild animal they're gonna go and try to fight you in the future

or grab it from an animal you don't have high friendship with

would be fun

[limber idol]

Imagine dying because a buck gored you with his antlers.

[limber idol]

Depends on the wild animal, deer just run away and let their kids die. Bears are much more protective.

[grizzled plank]

Why would you even grab a baby bear anyway

[limber idol]

Some players would try to raise it to be their pet.

City slickers amirite?

[grizzled plank]

Suuuuuureee-

[limber idol]

Well what are you implying?

[latent mulch]

I definelly would try to kidnap a baby bear just for the fun of it

[limber idol]

Rest in rip

Mama bear doesn't fuck around

[latent mulch]

imagine grabbing a baby goose and the Mother starts chasijg you just loud honks and bites all around

[limber idol]

The honks attract zombies lol

[latent mulch]

would be crazy definwlly

[latent mulch]

DAMM true mama goose is calling he zombies for help

[limber idol]

Have you ever played Red Dead 2, or at least watched a video showcasing the bear attacks? That'd be wild to see in this game.

[latent mulch]

Oh yeah, it looks hella intense

really curious how the more wild animals that attack you will be treated in the game

I bet TIS will make it awesome though as they do with the rest of their stuff

[limber idol]

I'm sure they'll put a lot of thought and work into it. If they make the animals too aggressive they'd end runs way to often. But if they're too pacifistic then why even call them predators?

[latent mulch]

exactly, will be finicky to balance between realism and gameability

like a bear just straight up mauling you to death with one bit

hit*

[limber idol]

Yeah that's a huge balancing issue. But that's something later down the line, I'm just glad we're getting farm animals and basic hunting

[snow nimbus]

gonna have to do a similar balance with encountering random npc humans too eventually

the old ones used to just blast you randomly

and end runs

[latent mulch]

oh yeah totally

[latent mulch]

true yeah

[covert loom]

Almost in December

[latent mulch]

I wonder if we will get like a talking option wheel

like others RPG does

[limber idol]

The final stretch is the longest

[latent mulch]

one more agressive, one more charismatic and só on

[covert loom]

If we are lucky public can finally get to play

[candid sparrow]

tomorrow is december ❗

[snow nimbus]

[distant veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532373907341312031/1312518803292295209/149dc0b809d02f761f7a83908ee4efea.png?ex=674cc9e4&is=674b7864&hm=d344d2ca881b935044df7d476c2d32d1b8607b5cbd5f6dab52d377aabdb809d1&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532373907341312031/1312518853879660614/9139ee00c1f1e3afa8e564d1fd40cf31.png?ex=674cc9f0&is=674b7870&hm=b231afbc8d7964407371a3318f6bf021fc95b0cee9701d86fd7689f22df08741&

Why

[hot quiver]

I think it's just because they want to make sure everything works in singleplayer first before moving on to multiplayer

it's an unstable release, so I'm not to bummed out by that

I mostly play multiplayer modded so I get it too, but I'm just happy we're getting news of an update at all man

[deep wing]

Multiplayer is a whole different realm of programming, we'd be expecting a late 2025/early 26 release if they were to release b42 with multiplayer

Don't think of it as a bad thing though, I'm going to spend the time with zombies off building my call of the wild camp and practicing the new crafting

[hot quiver]

^

And while they're getting multiplayer back in the swing of things (and hopefully improving on it too!), modders will be hard at work at updating/improving/creating more stuff for when multiplayer eventually drops

I wouldn't mind PvP to become less.... scuffed, as it is RN, but it's not a high priority for me as I'm more than fine continuing to play PvE with my friends

[deep wing]

Project zomboid will always be a pve game, I keep it on so everyone doesn't crowd the same few zombies

[snow nimbus]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/08/tidy-up-time/

[hot quiver]

thanks

[snow nimbus]

❤️

I actually mean to tag @distant veldt with that one, but I guess it might be relevant to you as well 🙂

[quartz plume]

i'm sure it won't be a full year until we get multiplayer back lol

build 41's took so long because it was essentially a from scratch rewrite

[snow nimbus]

yup yup B42 MP it just adding to and refining what was done in B41's rewrite

[hot quiver]

I hope B42MP and a full release comes back just in time for summer

[latent storm]

I'd give it just a few months maybe

[snow nimbus]

That devblog was in August so it is possible they have progressed a ton since then

[tawny quarry]

December starts soon and assuming nothing goes wrong, b42 should come out in <25 days

[indigo bane]

December starts in 30min

b42 should come out in < 1 day

[lost apex]

all i want for christmas, is b42

[fallow igloo]

mushrooms!

[native bronze]

can you believe it guys? b42. Just a week month away. b42 is in a week month. woohoo. I'm so happy about this information.

[late jackal]

So what's the bet on how long MP might come back? I'm betting somewhere from May to July, if all the kinks are buffed out.

[indigo bane]

I'd say September

well maybe October

for Halloween

[tawny quarry]

[quaint thistle]

They're adding more sandbox options in B42, right?

[candid sparrow]

Yes

[quaint thistle]

Yay

[orchid eagle]

Yay!!!

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-goat-baby-animal-baby-farm-animal-baby-goat-baby-goat-leap-gif-17646777900619830672

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-jump-goat-gif-15568549

[ivory pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-jump-im-here-say-what-cat-gif-17238244

[indigo bane]

Looks like the game is getting harder, i like it

1st of December

[sour dove]

devs on december 24th "sorry guys we need to delay, we hope to get it out before the end of the syrian war

[orchid eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-cat-hehe-cat-gif-23105830

[snow nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-gif-12971458

[covert loom]

kitties in PZ

meow meows are soo cute

[open vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-racoon-reverse-yoink-gif-20293914

[late jackal]

When raccoons get added, I'm gonna hunt and eat some with my in-game Spiffo plushy.

[eager wyvern]

Oh yeah! We're getting there.

[limber idol]

Based

[native bronze]

I'll tame them and condition them with canned food to steal cigarettes and watches from corpses

[covert loom]

domestic spiffo

[mild orchid]

wild spiffo

[limber idol]

Wildly domestic Spiffo

[open vessel]

tamed spiffo

[quaint thistle]

This graphic implies that B43 will take either 4/3 as much time as 42, or 1/3 because most of the work was done in parallel to B42

[quartz plume]

it has been worked on in parallel

[snow nimbus]

yea they have had a been doing a two teams working on B42 and B43

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/ can read about it here

[orchid rover]

I think a lot of B42 is helping them prep for faster updates in the future so the framework is already there and they don't have to develop it from new each time if im not mistake.

[edgy hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/time-has-no-meaning-anymore-daniel-shiffman-the-coding-train-learn-creative-code-nelson-djalo-gif-18141254

[earnest stirrup]

Technically while the majority of people worked on B42 someone worked on human NPC (B43) instead, so if I understood well build 43 progress continued alongside with build 42...
In conjunction with the fact that the team is doubled from b41 release, this suggest that B43 will be released a lot faster than 42.

Unfortunately I think that things are not gone as planned (this is only a my impression)..
Build 42 required a lot of time and I read that people that worked on fire stuff have been ported to work on others stuff.

Also they decided to bring a animals NPC to B42.

All this let me think that they didn't get to much time to work on "Human NPC" (B43) and I fear B43 will still require a lot of time..

Saying that... Animals NPC code will be anyway useful for for B43 human NPC... And will probably boost "Bandits" and "knox event expanded", that I'm sure will be amazing when ported on B42 with the new empowered code.

Unfortunately we will have to wait some months for that, both modders will need time to update after unstable release.

[ember crane]

Just expect everything to take a lot of time, that's usually "how it be" unfortunately

[earnest stirrup]

It's ok 👍.

Unstable single player will be funny and I think Bandits and KEE when updated will help a lot until B43.

[ember crane]

I don't know if animal AI will help NPC mods, although I bet there'll be at least a couple that forget to remove the "Pet" option

[earnest stirrup]

Pet option?

[ember crane]

Petting an animal

[mortal kernel]

:)) so true

[old flint]

The new build menu looks great, happy we got to see it in action

[wide jungle]

I see dynamic music mentioned in the thursdoid b42 picture. I thought it existed already with varying intensity?

other than that, the whole list looks pretty dope. Here's hopin' the "later" part comes sooner than too much later, but I'm confident it isn't gonna be like b41 with MP coming what, a year after unstable?

[grizzled plank]

They said shorter mp release time compared to b41, i got no clue wheter that still counts or not with the updates given for now

[wide jungle]

So many goodies coming, so little patience 😄

Which is ironic since I have patiently waited for the unstable all this time...but once its out, that thirst for full stable release is big

[deep wing]

Will animal 'condition' in relation to hunting come sooner or later? I don't think it's fair that you'd get all 62 pounds of venison from a deer by beating it to death with a hammer or putting it at more risk of lead poisoning than a fatal gunshot wound.

[old flint]

The last stretch of wait is always the worst 😆

[grizzled plank]

Judging from their speed in videos, i doubt mlee'ing animals possible.

[deep wing]

Same goes for shooting it a million times then

[deep wing]

To add to this, how much meat will we get from butchering/hunting? A healthy cow, using all parts (not that I'm expecting to be able to make cow brain soup) can make anywhere between 200-300 meals

[grizzled plank]

Mhmm

[latent mulch]

will prob depend either in your cooking skill or hunting skill

[old flint]

I would assume it’s not going to be loads of meat otherwiese it’ll make the game too easy. But I guess it depends on the animal spawn amount across the map

[latent mulch]

like fish does

[old flint]

Having it based on skill would be nice.

[grizzled plank]

Skill list already looking overfull

[deep wing]

I mean from what I can tell getting a stable farm going is a monumental task and small, family owned farms don't kill their animals all that much

[old flint]

They could just base it on hunting or cooking tbh or butchery if that’s a skill.

[grizzled plank]

Id say it can get count as a skill.

[deep wing]

Besides that keeping all the necessary freezers running for multiple cows would guzzle fuel, so I don't think getting a lot of food out of a well-butchered cow is silly at all

By the time you're in a position to manage a farm you're well past regularly finding canned food about the place

[old flint]

I like to make my game difficult, I can’t remember if they said animal spawn rate can be changed in sandbox but hopefully.

[ember crane]

You can

[latent mulch]

can't wait to make animal population 16x

animals in every room everywhere at once

[robust shell]

kentucky's wildlife is flourishing

[jade mist]

We can sit now

[candid sparrow]

there is a rumour that will be somenthing like sanity now, is it true?

[vernal folio]

Uh, no

But like stress and fear and stuff already exist

But you aren't going to start hallucinating

[candid sparrow]

Yes, but it can make part of the plans idk

It's very realistic for a zombie game have sanity moddles

[vernal folio]

As if zombies weren't bad enough

You have to deal with your inner demons

[candid sparrow]

indeed

maybe i can make a mod for b42 thinking in that

[maiden dune]

so doesd this mean multiplayer servers will go down when b42 launches? i have played on a server for over a year, we are actually wiping now and i read the article

[ebon wind]

The b42 unstable release will come on an "IWBUMS" branch, which users will have to manually switch to. Since multiplayer won't initially be available on the unstable branch, servers that are currently operating on b41 will likely continue to be on b41 (rather than shut down entirely)

I imagine a some servers will wait until b42 stable to switch, but many will likely switch when multiplayer comes to the unstable branch

[latent storm]

B41 will be around for a while still

[limber idol]

There's a schizophrenia mod. Yeah it's not the same as insanity but it has various levels of freaking out based on stress.

[mild orchid]

can you imagine b411

[quaint thistle]

I believe it's planned for B43

[candid sparrow]

Do you think its easy to make somenthing like that? I mean...

[candid sparrow]

Oh okay

[limber idol]

I'm not telling you to make it, I'm saying there already is one.

[candid sparrow]

I see, i will search for it, thanks man

[limber idol]

👍

[quaint thistle]

Anyways, I'm gonna mod in catgirls using the animal behavior and keep the "pet" option and giggle to myself

[orchid eagle]

Lol

[limber idol]

Pfp checks out

[oak barn]

Whatever keeps you happy in the zombie apocalypse

[quaint thistle]

I'd think it would be the catgirls, until they start yowling incessantly at 2am

[late jackal]

We only have dynamic combat music. Now we're getting dynamic music for all sorts of things, like climbing over a fence, entering a new building, finding good loot, etc.

[ebon pollen]

Imagine zom zoms

[minor jay]

Quick question: when they've said "before Christmas", does that mean there isn't a set day to release? Unless December 24th isn't out of the picture.

[ornate scroll]

They actually ment ortodox christmas which is 7th of January.

[candid sparrow]

If they said before christmas, its before 25th december, hope i have helped 🙂

[minor jay]

[minor jay]

[covert loom]

before the christmas holidays is most likely for build 42 unless delayed into first half of 2025.

[late jackal]

They're gonna need time for post-release patches

Before everyone leaves for the holidays

[orchid eagle]

lol zom zoms

zom zombers

[latent storm]

What matters is it's happening soon!

[warm pecan]

December is going to be peak gaming

[snow nimbus]

My coffee is trying to tell me something

[orchid eagle]

Lol

[wise mortar]

I want to remind everyone that Build 41 hit unstable right before Christmas

multiplayer/Louisville I mean

it left unstable in January

[old flint]

My fingers are crossed we get the unstable in 3 weeks time

[quartz plume]

F K in the coffee...

[old flint]

Im so glad that flashlights are going to be more important at night now

[covert loom]

flashlights felt useless in build 41 and tend to be dissmanted for electrical XP

[snow nimbus]

the question is, are flashlights going to be easier to find

[covert loom]

building those lamp on a pillars do sound like a nice idea.

[snow nimbus]

and are batteries going to last longer

[finite turtle]

Those are such a waste of resources

Yeah exactly, I never build lamps on pillars cuz u gotta replace the battery every 10 minute lol

[covert loom]

would be nice to find batteries in packs

[finite turtle]

Agree

[covert loom]

different types of batteries

various brands and variants

[finite turtle]

Dude ur stealing what im going to say, was abt to say that lol

Considering how we’re getting new generators new batteries don’t sound farfetched

[covert loom]

types of batteries and models

[finite turtle]

Will the other generator models actually change their behavior or is it just for looks

[covert loom]

its weird how one battery fits all electronics logic

household radio being compatible with a car radio

[finite turtle]

Also I don’t know if it was ever fixed but on Macs, fog was broken and never showed up, hopefully it’s fixed in b42

[covert loom]

car radio would be more logical than house hold radios

[grizzled plank]

Imagine dying to darkness due having wrong battery type

[covert loom]

scary

[grizzled plank]

4 types of generators, all different i believe

I mean, no friggin clue how much a generator can differ, but it mustt be

[old flint]

Likely it’ll be different sizes can hold more or less gas, provide energy for larger or smaller areas, be more or less efficient than others etc

[limber idol]

I would assume fuel efficiency and potentially volume. The old generator would probably be incredibly loud and guzzle gas while the electromax generator would probably be the most efficient and not be deafening

[covert loom]

generators could be louder some have larger range and fuel consumption rate.

if walls around generators could muffle the sound.

[grizzled plank]

All of the fuel and stuff aside, i hope one of them will beable to work indoors. Basement bases would shine marvellous if then.

[finite turtle]

dude speaking of indoor generators

i really hope we get something like backup generators in hospitals or something or large indoor generators like that, would be sick

[grizzled plank]

Would be hell of a thing to own

[ornate scroll]

We need infinite watermill generator

[grizzled plank]

I mean, getting fuel isnt hard if you carry your genny or find a spare one. Why nott

[ornate scroll]

It isn't hard, but laziness is the engine of progress

[covert ibex]

Wouldnt doubt that the reason b42 is taking so long is so they dont have to take so long on future updates by making systems internally that make updating the game to a large capacity less time consuming

[grizzled plank]

Lets hope so, NPC's are their own thing proobably though.

[old flint]

I think they mentioned a reason it’s taken so long is that many members of the team had irl emergencies, holidays or other stuff that made it so development slowed down. But that lesson has been learned and more people have been hired. Also the fact b42 is overhauling a lot of the game, but yes once these systems are implemented it might make development of other things less lengthy

[covert ibex]

that too ye, but I dont doubt the reason a lot of the reason it took so long is because of said overhaul

[old flint]

Well the scale they originally wanted to releases b42 with was cut down due to many reasons.
Overhauling many aspects of the game with many of them relying on other systems isn’t an easy task.

Especially when you have a development team shortage

[grizzled plank]

If someone blames devs over that, not entirely wrong, not entirely right, either way won't make much difference now. (About missed deadlines)
Would be fun to get it early though

[old flint]

Hopefully going forward updates won’t be as long but nevertheless it hasn’t bothered me.

I agree, I hope we get it within the next couple weeks

[grizzled plank]

Thats more about you're not slowly going away from the phase where all you can do is play whole day and not worry about it. 😜

It would be upsetting the exciting game features like NPC's and stuff gets added once you' got into your adult phase and spare less and less time to playing

[silk pasture]

'adult phase'

[grizzled plank]

Growin up if you're small and have all the time in world for playing

To be exact.

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-go-away-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-4877675

[sly lark]

wiat hwat

1 lvl no way

[covert ibex]

I hope we get more lore

a lot more lore

with b42, bc I LOVE the lore we have

[snow nimbus]

what kind of lore are you looking for?

[limber idol]

Probably just a debug thing for them to use

[covert ibex]

more world building, basically more perspectives of the knox event

[covert loom]

its good build 42 cut down on some of the features before the public unstable branch.

[grim flare]

I'd love more radio stuff that starts after a year of apocalypse. I think that all radio stops after a month in B41

[covert ibex]

same

I hope npcs add this too, maybe would give the ham radio more use

[grim flare]

I love using radios in MP, but most people just use the all chat

[snow nimbus]

this would be pretty cool

[native bronze]

It'd be nice if npcs get some sort of stalker-like a-life system

[late jackal]

That's legitimately not a bad idea! We could have battery packs in convenience stores, supermarket checkouts, in storage boxes, basements, house closets, commercial storage rooms and garage shelves!

[covert loom]

different battery types would be more logical for different electronics and other items.

AAA batteries , 9V battery ect

[late jackal]

I mean, how many different electronic devices do we currently have in the game?

[deep wing]

If you wanted to go all the way you could add 3v, 5v, and 12v fuses for different electronics

[jade mist]

i think they hired someone to specifically write lore

[late jackal]

List of all current in-game items that require batteries

• ValuTech Radio
• Premium Technologies Radio
• Makeshift Radio
• Flashlight
• Hand torch
• Toys-R-Mine Walkie Talkie
• ValuTech Walkie Talkie
• Premium Technologies Walkie Talkie
• Tactical Walkie Talkie
• US Army Walkie Talkie
• Makeshift Walkie Talkie
• Premium Technologies Ham Radio
• US Army Ham Radio
• Makeshift Ham Radio
• Lamp on pillar

[ebon wind]

I tried to convince my friends to use radio but they wanted /all too 😔

[grim flare]

Can't really blame them tho. I forgot my radio on once and the following day my truck battery was dead

Had to pay like 100 cigarettes to the mechanic to recharge it lol

[covert loom]

lamp on pillar lacks hand torch option for building and only the larger flashlight can only be used.

[fossil ivy]

I’d say June 2025 is the most realistic

for multiplayer

They said it won’t take as long as it did last time

[sour dove]

Wait so does this mean that there is a different team that has been working on build 43 this whole time?

[snow nimbus]

correct

and to add to that Lemmy has been working on the NPC code off and on since 2014

in the background

[eager zephyr]

you can install batteries into lamps if you have a high enough electronics skill

[snow nimbus]

From my understanding Fire rework has always been a side/pet project of Yuri - that is why it didn't make it into B41 as well, he moved over to MP team

[eager zephyr]

we should see build 43 before 2030 atleast

[open vessel]

[earnest stirrup]

Yes but the fact that some people have been taken from some departments and ported on others let me think that they encountered more difficulties than what estimated.

I think human NPC are years far...

But again, we have "bandits" and "KEE"

That in my opinion can improve over time and will very amazing with b42

[old flint]

Human NPCs are too far away for me too have much interest in them atm

Dont get me wrong they are cool but im just not super hyped for them yet

[earnest stirrup]

You are absolutely right.

Some people can play PZ for years and enjoy it without NPC. That perfectly fine.

Others like me like the game and follow it from 2012 enjoying it, but without NPC are bored after some times because NPC add another layer of depth (at least for people like me).

Both point of wiew are ok... And considering how amazing are "human NPC planned by TIS" I have no issue to wait others 3-4 years for the first iteration ... but this also thanks to Slayer and Sheik which mod reduce this pain.

[sour dove]

that's literally crazy, so all this time he's been working on that, and 99% of the community didn't know

[tawny quarry]

We will

[fossil ivy]

It’s like a open secret

[empty summit]

what if you sneak up

[open vessel]

After all, we imagine [alcohol] would be a likely bit of escapism for many a zombie apocalypse survivor, and there’d be more value still added later down the line once the NPCs and the accompanying psychological overhaul we have planned at the same time.
from: https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/10/cellar-door-doid/

there was a sanity system unused sound and hallucinations files added in one of the earlier builds. They’ll probably implement it a refined version of it one day. At least that’s what I interpret the “psychological overhaul” to mean (i.e., the sanity system)

[candid sparrow]

😮

[empty summit]

they shud add back the morale fr

[covert ibex]

prolly once npcs are back

[empty summit]

it'd be cool if we had to wear mitts or use tongs to pick up hot items from a forge

or a brick kiln

dunk them in a water barrel to cool it down

obviously you cant pick up a white hot piece of metal and immediately use it after you shaped it into a sword or sm

[open vessel]

sneaking up on animals to melee them? Seems very unlikely given that many animals have an excellent hearing range and are very alert

[empty summit]

what if you are in invis mode

[open vessel]

ah then I imagine we can get as close as we want. Thought you were referring to vanilla

[empty summit]

and what if you have the animal cornered or something

could you imagine being able to build some kind of kill box, herd an animal in and stab it to death for perfect quality kill?

one way to fix that is animals attacking the player to evade them in those situations (realistic)

not sure if that was shown on the sneak peaks

they need to add some predators like mountain lions and black bears 🙏

zomboid ecosystem and you are part of the food chain

[dapper olive]

i dont think sanity was ever used in the old builds

[open vessel]

that’d be neat. Something that’ll have to be tested during unstable!

[open vessel]

so just the sound files and hallucinations were there but not implemented? That’s what the mods base it on, right?

[dapper olive]

yeah theres just unused sounds

theres a sanity value that you can see in debug mode but it doesnt do anything

[open vessel]

much appreciated on the correction. Wasn’t intentionally spreading misinformation

…this time

[tawny quarry]

Would bears and other predators eat zeds?

[empty summit]

maybe if they hungry enough

[covert loom]

bears around bodies of water like lakes or rivers

[late jackal]

We saw cows kicking humans

[empty summit]

wait really?

what doid' is that

[covert loom]

bears eat rabbits , deer, fish also since they are omnivores they will eat plants as well.

[limber idol]

I doubt it, zeds are toxic as heck.

[covert loom]

bears would eat any food they could find.

it would be interesting if we could farm some honey.

[quiet imp]

wonder how much the animal code can improve npc mods

[covert ibex]

bears would defend themselves but not eat zomboids

[open vessel]

we will have so now we need

[limber idol]

Mmm, beaver stew

[old needle]

(AI btw)

[latent storm]

What the hell is team poof or team cheeto

Also, screw character ai

[grim flare]

Do you think there's going to be a change on how ovens work? Like... They are all electric ovens right now and that doesn't feel right lol

[noble hill]

all electric other then the antique oven but I do want more wood ovens and gas ovens

[grim flare]

We also have that bbq that works with propane tanks

[orchid eagle]

Lol team proof or team cheeto, lol wth

[snow nimbus]

deforesting the country side

[open vessel]

pop the food in the kiln

[crystal helm]

Z in the thursdoid title

Last one was in May?

[grizzled plank]

Still, very unlikely to success. Id guess it goes nearly impossible to mlee them and they give same amount of meat compared to shooting.

[mortal kernel]

lool

[snow nimbus]

[mortal kernel]

it's witchcraft sir !

coffee voodoo

you died ? how's the server ?

[snow nimbus]

mmm still alive, I almost just died though

we are slowly moving from muldraugh to westpoint, and we plan on clearing out the mall

[mortal kernel]

ohoo good luck with the mall 😉

[snow nimbus]

decided to make american tire our outpost 🙂

[mortal kernel]

short blade 10 now I presume

did you find the critical chance to proc more constantly ? because I noticed a significant increase in that chance with long blade 10

up to a point that it procs ridiculously often

[snow nimbus]

surpisingly haven't gotten to 10 yet with blades

I started going through my axe collection instead

[mortal kernel]

should be the same with axe cause I believe it's a flat chance that increases

[mortal kernel]

Gj gj

almost 20k kills

[snow nimbus]

😄

would be 20k but I spent a few days putting up walls at american tire

[mortal kernel]

that maintenance.....

[snow nimbus]

yea I am using crowbars atm to work on the maintenance lol

it's just so dang slow when you aren't repairman

[mortal kernel]

yeah

I believe with the new sandbox settings Im gonna run a flat 1,5x on maintenance

[snow nimbus]

ahhh fair

[mortal kernel]

yeah I believe it to be also 2.0-2.5x car gas consumption makes it more realistic

[mortal kernel]

Imagine mechanics with no auto mod and 1x grinding.....

[snow nimbus]

next time I am bumping up the fuel consumption way higher

I would do it now but I would feel like a dick

[mortal kernel]

;))

next wipe