Hallodoid

[rough oxide]

Yep

[finite glacier]

thats awesome that theyre doing good march ridge is so hard... i just died a few hours ago in lv , so many zombies even on apocalypse settings

[versed kestrel]

[strong depot]

I was in LV the other day and was basically solo bc I had two friends with less that 50 hours on the game and I was on 2x population and it honestly wasn’t that bad

[finite glacier]

i had the sound radius to 1000 lol it just was bad

[strong depot]

I cleared an apartment building and would have had an amazing base after killing and moving 600-700 Zomboid bodies out but my friend burned it down

[strong depot]

💀 that is painful

[finite glacier]

LOL

[strong depot]

I went in with a massive military truck full of ammo and an M3 grease gun. I used close to 15 boxes of 45 cap

Acp**

I was sooooo annoyed at him bc I spent maybe 10 hours just getting them and my vehicles there

Then they lost a car

Full of stuff

And I was specifically telling them not to go near the fire

And one stepped in it and ran inside

It is funny now but I was literally just silent in the voice chat for a few minutes

[pearl radish]

hallodoid

[finite glacier]

lol they always do that, my friend went afk near the stove and i knew she was going to catch the wall on fire and i just stood back and watched and she came back and i said what happen? lol

[strong depot]

I am really bad about stepping back and allowing people to learn on their own and I want to go in for a low effort save for them to just figure stuff out

[versed kestrel]

This is my anxiety every time I log on the server

schrodinger's zomboid base

[sinful geode]

git good or die tryin

[mental token]

Looks like a WorldEd misclick

[sinful geode]

somethin' somethin' b42 at the end

[fluid trench]

murmurs of b42

[finite glacier]

lies!! its knox virus origin i know it

[sinful geode]

noobs gonna get night terrors after facing darkness in b42

[sinful geode]

menacing whispers from beyond

[sinful geode]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1gt82ch/attack_of_the_mods_a_massive_collection_of_334/

I'm gonna leave this here bc it's really good

Kudos to the author if he / she is here

[versed kestrel]

3 deaths now lol

[finite glacier]

lmfao

ugh , ill never forget going there with friends and i think 2 of us died lol

[versed kestrel]

lol yup yup

one of the ones that died is convinced doing a molotov burn is the answer

I am like that is a good way to lose the food

and or start a perpetual forever fire

[sinful geode]

skill recovery j enabled?

[versed kestrel]

nope

[sinful geode]

ahh the pain....

[sinful geode]

maybe teach them the fence cheese :))

[finite glacier]

lol be like sure go try it

and just watch lmfao

[finite glacier]

HEY i like that lol

also died from it last night

[sinful geode]

yeah nice technique

[sinful geode]

try using a different keybind for that stomping action

[versed kestrel]

never used it before, I know people seem to like it

[finite glacier]

it was like7 zombies that piled in all at the same time and lunged at me lol

[sinful geode]

yeah happened to me as well but I believe it's an animation bug

hitboxes not syncing

[versed kestrel]

I offered it as an option but a few of them said they didn't like the idea

[sinful geode]

must always hold your nerve

backward face the fence and just wait for them to lunge

[fluid trench]

How many brains does it take to feed a single ombie

[sinful geode]

I can see it being scary for new people but it's efficient if one is bare handed

[sinful geode]

?

[fluid trench]

the first letter of the word on my keyboard is broken

I cant say the letter underneath "A"

What a revelation

[sinful geode]

how many brains?

I was curious for the answer

[fluid trench]

An infinite number of brains, they don't have a digestive track!

They like the taste.

[sinful geode]

mhmm

don't know what to say

[fluid trench]

You don't need to say anything

[versed kestrel]

not gonna teach them fence cheese

I hope TIS fixes it

[fluid trench]

the boids should trip over one another and actually collide with eachother to make openings for an attack

envisioning a horde absolutely tumbling towards you

[versed kestrel]

it would be an interesting to add as an option

but for now we have mod to do this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2856413047&searchtext=trip

[sinful geode]

very good mod

I use it in conjunction with random zombie day and night

and only sprinters runs

[sinful geode]

Yeah these situations should be addressed in the next update

same goes for the car technique

[sinful geode]

maybe GrappleTech will be of use here

[versed kestrel]

💯

[finite glacier]

what will we be able to drag?!

[fluid trench]

i'm foaming at the mouth attempting not to make a your mom joke

[finite glacier]

i already did a deez nuts in my head lmao

and then made myself angry for it lol

[fluid trench]

some words have had their reputation tarnished

[finite glacier]

lol

this is why we cant have nice things

[signal sparrow]

fallen zombies should be pinned down by other zombies standing on top of them like how our character can stand on 1-2 zombies

edit: this probably already happens. Been a while since I last played
—

or the fallen zombies should crawl their way to us since zombies wouldn’t consciously be putting all their weight on their fallen friends depending if it’s a large horde or not. Makes sense for zombies to be immobile on the ground during a large stampede compared to being trampled by 1-3 zombies

[finite glacier]

yar it does , it has saved my butt a few times lol

[signal sparrow]

does stomping/hitting a zombie’s lower extremities convert them to crawlers? Would be fun to lead an army of crawlers to a friend’s safehouse

[fluid trench]

I wonder if you can make it so we can stand on top of 300 boids pinning them down

it's all sprinters so practically a landmine

[signal sparrow]

would have to be a very large horde

as soon as the others move out of the way, the rest rise up

reminded me of this video: https://youtu.be/zB-EFFMhS-c

[sinful geode]

I don't think so

They fall from knockback but I don't understand why some will crawl and why some don't and I didn't hit any specific body parts

[sinful geode]

I think it's more about the possible interactions in animations than dragging

it was teased with dragging but I believe it can be applied to other actions as well

[sinful geode]

;))))

[blissful rain]

you can also throw them out the windows!

[sinful geode]

yis

[abstract summit]

Lets have a great day

[sinful geode]

also very unrealistic and unplausible

[signal sparrow]

wondering if GrappleTech will allow us to utilize dead zombies as a huma— err.. zed—shields to protect us from bullet shots or to push onto players or other zombies to slow them down

[finite glacier]

lol it would be like a human water balloon

[sinful geode]

I would like that

some form of improvised shield

[signal sparrow]

with GrappleTech, I’d carry limping players and throw them to the horde so I can make an escape

[sinful geode]

ohh yeah the hardcore cruel way

[finite glacier]

lmao bruh

[sinful geode]

not a bad ideea for a mod

[signal sparrow]

sneak up behind a lone zombie and break their necks to conserve ammunition and weapon durability, but if it’s timed wrong you risk your mitten hand(s) being bitten

also made me think if we’ll always have to swing our weapons to vanquish our chickens and turkeys or if we can pick them up and yk.. employ other means of putting them down

[sinful geode]

hmm but wouldn't that leave the rest of the corpse still animated ? and you would have to be strong to do that

[signal sparrow]

perhaps. Tho one can argue zombies are sufficiently deteriorated so it wouldn’t take substantial strength + any injury to their also deteriorated cervical bones/nerves would just kill them rapidly without any involuntary responses (plus idt they’d want to animate a headless zombie)

[dull berry]

looking at the kind of zombies they seem to be yeah i think itd kill them lol, stabbing them with a butter knife also works

[signal sparrow]

stabbing them from behind is pretty stale tho. I’m sure the community would appreciate performing an RKO on a zed, which would kill the zed instantly

[sinful geode]

you underestimate the strength of bony structures, it takes a considerable amount of force to bend and fracture a bone, not to mention the cervical spine vertebrae. In violent read-ended car crashes you get the whiplash injury which is dangerous but still isn't enough to kill you.

[dull berry]

oh im not promoting it just pointing out that they can be killed in a lot of ways a human can

[dull berry]

strength build lets fucking goooooooooooo

[signal sparrow]

I don’t doubt that it’s difficult to break a human neck (wouldn’t know), but I meant that I imagine zombie necks are easier to mend/damage/break given their lack of nutrition. Maybe this action could be carried out only with a strength 9-10 character

probs misspoke, and it would indeed still take considerable strength

surprised no one’s tapped the sign yet

!tap

[paper mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1100348248960536576/image.png

[lean forge]

!hana

[paper mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1079972552715280524/unknown-255_1.png

[sinful geode]

It is, in my experience with trauma patients, I have not witnessed such events mainly because of the anatomy and physiology of the cervical region that enables it to twist and bend when force is applied and I've seen a lot of horrible car accidents where involvement of the cervical region showed up on CT; It's possible for a trained assassin to do it, can't deny it, but a normal dude can only just botch it...

[sinful geode]

it is pretty stale tho can't argue

[signal sparrow]

fascinating work you got! Maybe we’ll see a refined “break zombie neck” mod with one of the new B42 tools + with animations one day

[signal sparrow]

would be cool to perform one of those WWE elbow drops from the second floor on a zombie and to get up unscathed for the sake of game immersion

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-flying-elbow-drop-wrestling-wrestlers-gif-15700266

[versed kestrel]

2 hour days and 2x exp rates

should probably start using the axes I started finding lol

[sinful geode]

I'm all for.this and I hope we can get new animations and interaction animations

[sinful geode]

Lol short blade

sneaky sneaky

[fluid trench]

short blade is goated

[scarlet niche]

when update, it's been 2 years.

[carmine thorn]

tomorrow

[sullen coral]

yesterday

[drowsy relic]

When it's ready

[carmine thorn]

it is ready

they released it you need the secret code

[drowsy relic]

and only Pat knows it

[carmine thorn]

its zomboid123 dont tell anyone

[carmine thorn]

pat doesnt even work there

he just asked to be part of it and they let him in

[drowsy relic]

Perks of being cool

[sullen coral]

having access to b42

[drowsy relic]

TIS needs to hire Oprah to release b42

"You get Build 42! You get Build 42! EVERYONE GETS BUILD 42"

[sullen coral]

they should make an early access of b42 as a subscription

9.99$/month

[drowsy relic]

paying 10 dollars once right now to have unstable

easiest money

[sullen coral]

a choice of waiting or being happy

[hidden talon]

You know this is going to make bank, right?

[sullen coral]

thats the thing

[hidden talon]

So much so, the bank is going to run.

[sullen coral]

the bank is going to explode

from money flow

[dawn fox]

Could you imagine

[sullen coral]

no i can see

[foggy basin]

its smart that they know adding NPCs will take 3x the effort of a normal update and therefore dont plan to do it all in one update

See Indie Stone? I'm praising you guys, now let me in the unstable!!! I need it!!!

[sullen coral]

mission impossible: getting b42

[polar venture]

Me convincing myself that the unstable's gonna drop the next day, then the next as a form of coping:

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-mysterion-the-sentimentalists-canadas-got-talent-brainstorming-gif-25318758

[lean geyser]

Maybe the real unstable is our mental condition we fostered along the way

[finite glacier]

lol

[versed kestrel]

[paper cobalt]

Zomboid could easily take the game of the year, if only they released b42

[serene bough]

90% is returning players

[paper cobalt]

Baited

[finite glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/not-amused-gif-10273104

thats for steam forums

[paper cobalt]

Sorry

[signal sparrow]

(letting out one's) Steam forums

unstable gamers = unstable builds

[paper cobalt]

I hope they add kaluptic psychosis trait from CDDA

So I can talk with my crowbar

[finite glacier]

lol

[paper cobalt]

New must pick instead of smoker

[finite glacier]

crowbarf whisperer

[versed kestrel]

and yet my sneak is at 0 - it's just the most common weapon sticking out of zombies

[signal sparrow]

and they hardly cause exhaustion at high skill levels iirc

[versed kestrel]

yuuup

I basically never have to sitdown

[pearl radish]

testing

[versed kestrel]

👋

[burnt bronze]

Propheception

[signal sparrow]

B42 is a social experiment to assess how patient gamers can be

[scarlet niche]

Build 48 will be released in 2040.

[sinful geode]

muscle strain soon

the chair strategy should be obsolete 😉

[signal sparrow]

muscle strain

y'all think we'll finally get lung cancer?

[sullen coral]

cancer in zomboid

hmmm

[signal sparrow]

perhaps we'll get reduced fitness or stamina

[sullen coral]

and intense coughing

[signal sparrow]

might not be worth the 2 or 4 points anymore

[sullen coral]

yea, it might cost 6 or even 8 now

for such debuffs

[signal sparrow]

wonder if that'll mean less cigarettes to be found throughout the map too. Perhaps a 10 pack rather than the current 20

[sullen coral]

i think it should be random like in smoker mod

i wonder what alcoholic trait will do

[versed kestrel]

Pretty excited tbh

[scenic moat]

if smoker is nerfed down to the ground, i'm modding it back. I pick smoker just for the immersion

same goes for alcoholic

ffs what is there to do in zombie apocalypse other than to drink and smoke? stay on a healthy diet?

[forest sable]

Lose hp if you don't drink for a certain amount of time xD

[signal sparrow]

speaking of alcohol, I read back on previous Thursdoids to find some exciting info that’s probs been forgotten

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/04/dya-like-them-grapplez/: “this week we mixed in the effects of drinking alcoholic beverages and poisons, so characters can get drunk, sick or die. Drunkenness also now comes with visual effects, and delays on character controls depending on the amount of laughing juice you’ve imbibed”

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/10/cellar-door-doid/: “the last profession we’ll cover today is the Brewer, who has numerous valuable things to bring to the table. While at present alcoholic drinks may not have too much direct impact on gameplay, we will be providing more benefits and downsides to the partaking in alcohol. After all, we imagine it would be a likely bit of escapism for many a zombie apocalypse survivor, and there’d be more value still added later down the line once the NPCs and the accompanying psychological overhaul we have planned at the same time”

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/09/sky-high/: “for the longest time, since forever in fact, alcoholic intake hasn’t had enough impact on the player – outside of some fun stuff when drink-driving. We haven’t gone as far as implementing a whole new animation set, but as a fun little side project you might find a few extra complications next time you’re utterly shit-faced.” Maybe we’ll pass out (forced sleep mechanic?) or straight up die from excess alcohol consumption in a short span of time

[sullen coral]

no more drinking 20 bottles of bourbon and living normally

[forest sable]

CDDA challenge with permanent drunkeness is gonna be fun

[sullen coral]

walking like a zombie

[sinful geode]

yes, all good news bc more debuffs should creep up after a drinking fiesta like dehydration, slower reflexes, weak combat performances, missing targets, pain, etc

[sullen coral]

true suffering

[burnt bronze]

Same with smoking, nothing immersive about chain smoking a pack and still being able to run a mile

[sinful geode]

withdraw should come with pain, anxiety, stress, agitation, tremors, worst case delirum tremens

[sinful geode]

endurance and endurance regen should be affected

[sullen coral]

i hope that we will get forced sleep mechanic not just for alcohol

but for many aspects of the game

[burnt bronze]

And all depending on/scaling with both how long you've smoked and how much you smoke a day

[sinful geode]

drugs?

[sullen coral]

yes

[sinful geode]

that requires in depth medical knowledge of how the respiratory and circulation systems work and how are they affected by smoking IRL and then reproduce that in the game

kinda hard

[burnt bronze]

Nah no need to go that hard imo. Still gotta be a bit gamey in the end

Just slap on some values that make general sense and call it a day

Tweak later if needed

[sinful geode]

those values or that mechanic you are describing must be rooted in some IRL knowledge

like above 20 cigs / day > high chance multiplier to develop asthma or copd, coughing, wheezing, etc

[sullen coral]

dynamic traits

[strange flax]

I think the easiest way to nerf smoking would be to reduce exp in stamina and strength for each cigarette smoked, but cap it so you can't lose a level to prevent constantly hearing level up sound. Maybe the other way would be to add an addiction meter that would increase the more you use certain substance, the addiction meter would rise more if you consume the substance more frequently and after a certain threshold for addiction is reached, negative effects would occur after not using the substance for a time. This would require adding timers for using specific substance and another meter for addiction, making it harder to implement than to just lose some exp in stamina and strength.

[sinful geode]

I can see that addiction meter being an end-indicator for tolerance to a particular substance like nicotine, more viable questions woud be how and when that addiction impacts your other systems like fatigue, endurance, body temp, discomfort, sleep, etc.

[calm veldt]

petushimiy pastuh what is that?

[calm veldt]

privet

[hidden talon]

Fixed

[toxic spruce]

😭 i cant take it anymore

[mental token]

I'd say, move the purple just a SINGLE pixel back

[sullen coral]

make everything purple

[solar arch]

would be so funny if when a character is drunk enough they'll start walking sloppy like a zombie so and espically if they have a mask on you can't tell if that's a drunk as hell survivor or a zombie lol

[fluid trench]

https://tenor.com/view/riley-as-a-puppy-being-all-cute-swedish-vallhund-first-day-home-larska-sign-a-lot-dave-parsons-gif-16446251203181400712

[hidden talon]

Happy?

[fluid trench]

i refuse to believe there will be a b48 in the near future

[serene bough]

now add sex to pz

[hidden talon]

Ehhh, make a mod for it.

[paper cobalt]

Please dont

[serene bough]

Baited

[paper cobalt]

Good one

Add b42 to pz instead

[signal sparrow]

“how’d this zombie get into my well-fortified base?” shoots player/friend

[signal sparrow]

a little more to the right just so we can see the slightest tint of orange. Gotta rile the community up

[hidden talon]

I'll leave that to you.

I painstakingly drew the second image using pixel-perfect matching, and then quickly whip up the first image.

[toxic spruce]

KILL ME

[unborn portal]

when will B42 get opened up to a wider range of testers?

[sullen coral]

likely in december

more likely early 2025

[sinful geode]

next month

[finite glacier]

Ahahhaha

[signal sparrow]

I see what you mean. Currently suffering from color fatigue

edit: I’ll likely finish and send it later today

[signal sparrow]

—
going back to the earlier convo related to the smoker nerf(s) and alcohol consumption being more consequential, could any dev hint if antidepressants, beta blockers, painkillers, sleeping pills, and vitamins will receive any sort of buff or nerf during B42 unstable too or would that be included in a first aid/medical system overhaul possibly sometime post-B42?

[pliant eagle]

wasn't b42 supposed to be out by the end of 2024??

[fluid trench]

20204 isnt over yet

[amber crypt]

unstable yeah, but a full release's probably in 2025

[pliant eagle]

an unstable build open to the public??

i feel like a crackhead in abstinence while wating for this build lol

[pliant eagle]

i think there is still a lot of time until 20204

heck maybe b43 will be out by then

[serene bough]

2026 for me

didn’t b41 take 2 years in unstable?

[left magnet]

wait we are getting a unstable build for 42>

?

[serene bough]

yeah

[left magnet]

when?

[serene bough]

2024

[left magnet]

when in 2024?

[serene bough]

Q4 lol

[left magnet]

December?

[long dew]

probably

[paper cobalt]

In 5 minutes

[serene bough]

probably

[left magnet]

im so very excited

[versed kestrel]

When it's ready

[serene bough]

Space engineers new game was announced so i’m excited for new info on that

[left magnet]

the only cure mod should be built into the game

[serene bough]

they’re never doing that

[scenic moat]

nah, there should be no cure

[left magnet]

cutting off limbs is a good cure

because you're losing something that costs lots

[versed kestrel]

Rating would go up and likely be banned in a few countries, same if they add more drugs

[left magnet]

why would the only cure mod make it banned?

because of amputation?

[serene bough]

it’s like them not adding gun suicide

[sinful geode]

wait

[left magnet]

i know

[sinful geode]

wait

I read it out wrong

[left magnet]

is drinking bleach any better?

[finite glacier]

i think that would just become more annoying lol

like if youre by yourself theres no way you can do that unless its just like a hand

[serene bough]

no, use of guns are obviously a widely known traumatic way to go out

[pliant eagle]

not gore i guess

[frigid sapphire]

Gun suicide is explicitly and clearly suicide

Drinking bleach can be seen as an accident

[sinful geode]

bc of game rating, adding more gore violence drugs, nudity and stuff like that changes a game's rating

[pliant eagle]

or a forearm

[serene bough]

like movies tryna make it pg13 cuz they make more money

[finite glacier]

i dnot think there is any good way to do that lol

[signal sparrow]

probably gonna sound like a party pooper here (and I get that it’s a game), but infections quickly travel through the bloodstream. Amputation may not always work, and a good chunk of players would probably start up a new character/world than continue with an amputated character given that their chances of survival decrease drastically

[pliant eagle]

saw it

[finite glacier]

the angle is kind of weird

[sinful geode]

this

[pliant eagle]

nah it's doable if you put your arm on a table

[serene bough]

9/10 you’d die of shock if u amputate urself lol

[pliant eagle]

heck you could chop off even your entire arm just a bit under the shoulder

[finite glacier]

i dunno one of your main veins is right there lol

youd prolly bleed out like a neck scritch

[pliant eagle]

that is also a thing of course

[sinful geode]

also cutting off a limb could instantly end up in severe hemorrhage and death

[amber crypt]

unless you use a tourniquet

[finite glacier]

not to mention doing anything after , they would have to add like punishment for cutting off your arms by making everything you do take even longer rofl

[sinful geode]

genius

[pliant eagle]

yeah that's how the mod literally works

idk i just think it'd be cool having just one last chance at a very high risky price

[signal sparrow]

male character getting a groin bite and amputation being an option

[sinful geode]

ufff

[abstract summit]

I wonder if they will making amputation a official game mechanic

[fluid trench]

👁️

[signal sparrow]

N3na3

[fluid trench]

𝐼𝓃𝓈𝑜𝓂𝓃𝒾𝓊𝓂𝒲𝑜𝓁𝒻

[signal sparrow]

[fluid trench]

fuckin doper

[signal sparrow]

😆

[mental token]

〰️

[hidden talon]

I don't like that. It's risky because it could mean the game would have to be re-rated, and it might be an Adult Only rating.

I would rather keep it as a mod.

[signal sparrow]

lol splendid

[sinful geode]

yeah the mod works well as it is and if it's updating to 42 even better

[signal sparrow]

this still the case?

[serene bough]

lol when even was that

[signal sparrow]

it's on the Wiki and PZ website with an FAQ published in 2013, but no clue when it was last updated/edited. I'd wager 13+ if they were to adopt a fixed age rating

[cursive fulcrum]

No way, we've got loads of cursing

[vapid zenith]

Can TIS pull a hard artstyle pivot and change the zombies to the minecraft movie ones

It would be awful (but funny)

[serene bough]

is that real

[vapid zenith]

Seems so lmao

[serene bough]

oh literally an hour ago

[finite glacier]

lmao ew wth

[hushed prairie]

I need it

You have no idea man

You have no idea how much I could use it right now

Oh man

You've got no fucking clue

[trail summit]

Maybe it just makes your fitness worse or smth
just realized you said it already, mb

[lean forge]

I dont use the smoker trait

[dull berry]

great, now my 6yo cant play this game :/ hope ur happy

[signal sparrow]

oh the radio/TV transcripts, right? Read them and saw plenty of F-bombs, 💩s, and bee-with-an-itch's

15+ would probably be a more appropriate age rating then; might ramp up to 17+ depending on interactions with NPCs

[signal sparrow]

thoughts?

[serene bough]

now make half the remaining orange purple vertically

[finite glacier]

omg lol

[signal sparrow]

B42 is one pixel away

[serene bough]

one pixel each day thnroughout the vertical line

[signal sparrow]

gonna send this "roadmap" to next Thursdoid's doomsayers

[finite glacier]

lmao

[serene bough]

just a little over a week till thursdoid

i wonder whos betting an announcement of a time frame vs a delay

or none ig

[serene bough]

i think right is accurate

honestly even filled in is accurate

its stuck at 100%

[signal sparrow]

99.9999...% and just keeps repeating

now there's some food to feed the trolls next Thursday

[serene bough]

im feening

[finite glacier]

Lmfao

[signal sparrow]

[versed kestrel]

[hidden talon]

Couldn't tell the difference.

[mental token]

Perfection

[mental token]

Zoom in

[hidden talon]

Saw it. That's way too subtle. no one is going to see it.

[sinful geode]

what do you want to bet on?

time frame or delay?

[lunar tangle]

time frame

i am being joyous over the next thursdoid and the good tidings it kept

[calm veldt]

!roadmap

[calm veldt]

fake

[hidden talon]

What part of it is fake?

[marsh wigeon]

Perfect, now move it to the correct spot 😎

[upper sinew]

Why Poland gets whole Build 48 for it, and other countries dont...

[hidden talon]

Because of "Polandball"

They did a Project Zomboid cameo. Forgot when though.

/s

[toxic spruce]

stop edging me

[calm veldt]

this one

[hidden talon]

I know, I created it, but it's more accurate to the current state of Build 42.

[signal sparrow]

exactly. Gotta really push people to read between the lines

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-think-thinking-contemplating-hmm-gif-5174244

[polar venture]

[vapid zenith]

Can you reverse the graph

[hidden talon]

No

It's painstaking long to do.

Also, I intended to be as accurate as possible with the current status of the game.

[finite glacier]

Lmao yeah just tevers eit

Reverse reverse!!!

[drowsy relic]

For that he needs the release date of b42 unstable so he can make it accurate 😉

[finite glacier]

nicew try

lol

[night pagoda]

Getting stalker 2 before b42 is wild

Well, getting stalker 2 is wild on itself but still

[lean forge]

next week is going to be interesting.

[polar venture]

what gives?

[versed kestrel]

get mid/late game reviews from testers more likely

[polar venture]

interesting!'

[lean forge]

Thursdoid blog post perhaps another good status report for build 42

[sinful geode]

can't wait to see the feedback from the rest

[versed kestrel]

same ❤️

[lean forge]

cant wait to see what other game tester feedback will be shown this time

[abstract summit]

Unstable is releasing 2025

[sinful geode]

the stars told u this?

[left magnet]

nuh uh

[signal sparrow]

put bleach in all of your friends’ food for the PZ Thanksgiving dinner

[abstract summit]

Yes

[flint edge]

Thanksgivingdoid when

[flint edge]

Wouldn’t 42 Release mean full release, not unstable?

[versed kestrel]

I am Canadian, we already had thanksgiving

[signal sparrow]

bar is between 99% and 100% to represent unstable

[signal sparrow]

what about in-game? October 14 passed already?

[versed kestrel]

not yet, we are at september 4th 🐸

[signal sparrow]

plenty of time to acquire some bleach for all the food

[versed kestrel]

[serene bough]

i wonder when the blog post is even written

throughout the month? right before releasing? prepared before?

[vapid zenith]

Prepared before by like a week I'd presume lol

[serene bough]

rither way we could then assume whatever the blog says that development is actually a timeframe ahead

[signal sparrow]

pretty sure they just run it through PatGPT on the day of, they quickly read it to account for any minor errors, then send it to the masses

[serene bough]

false

they just send it right after

no checking

in pat we trust

also seems like we should make the goal 6969 messages

[lean forge]

lol

getting close to 6666 again lol

[lunar tangle]

[signal sparrow]

sad to see that the channel was locked too early last time

[finite glacier]

UH HUH

[signal sparrow]

no, Puppers lol

[finite glacier]

WHERE

[signal sparrow]

mission failed

[finite glacier]

yay 6666

[lean forge]

we should try and get 7777 posts

[frigid sapphire]

Not how alt text was intended to be used, but a use of it that was entirely worthwhile (for me, a sighted user that doesn't benefit from it)

It gave me a laugh

[signal sparrow]

😆

[drowsy relic]

nasKo can't lock this thread at this rate, it's still over a week to thursdoid, so better get that 6666+ done asap

[serene bough]

no way bro went on browser discord for this

[rough oxide]

We NEED to reach 6969

Otherwise b42 will be canceled!

[signal sparrow]

nah. Got my Tesla robot to do it on my behalf

[finite glacier]

lol

[serene bough]

need a whopping 500 messages this week

[versed kestrel]

Surprisingly only 4 deaths total in our march ridge campaign - people learning from their mistakes

[versed kestrel]

https://youtu.be/hr0FvSWbUIQ

Sadly ran out of hatchets while I was out there but it was worth it

[fluid trench]

balloon

[versed kestrel]

🎈

[slim bane]

If they`re unrewarding but with good sense of acomplishing some feat, or a cool inside look into some story or storytelling, i wouldn't mind

The thing is Rn a lot of times u get to a annotated map and there is nothing that catches the eye

not really talking about loot aspect of rewarding

[sinful geode]

very nice

but also OP 😉

no lvl in first aid like a boss

[hard warren]

just release it pleaaase i cant wait to play it with my friends

[frigid sapphire]

The unstable release won't have multiplayer, just so you know

[hard warren]

kk

[solar arch]

On release there will be no multiplayer but

Down the line there will be multiplayer for unstable

[strange flax]

I hope the devs add the ability to share annotations for multiplayer

[mental token]

Like a "copy annotations" button?

Or a system where we can collaboratively see maps and make annotations together like a Google Doc?

[strange flax]

seeing a map together and being able to annotate at the same time seems great

[hidden talon]

Such a thing exists, right?

[mental token]

It'd probably be difficult to implement.

Especially to make it seamless to start. It'd probably need to same UI as to start trading as it is to start sharing maps.

"<blank> wants to look at a map with you. Accept? Decline?"

[pliant eagle]

i think it would be more realistic and fun having like your own maps as items and just being able to give it to a friend and then he can just see your annotations and eventually copy them

[strange flax]

mod exist to allow for copying

[pliant eagle]

it would also be a fun thing in single player, if you loose your world map you just have to survive and find your way back home or wherever you left your map

[sinful geode]

shared faction map

it's a basic QoL mod

don't know if it's gonna be a feature in game

[hidden talon]

Question to nasko:

Since Thanksgiving is a holiday on Thursday, do we get an early day Wednesdoid or we still sticking with Thursdoid?

🥹

[golden patio]

When you eat your turkey, look inside, you may find a thursdoid located within

[hidden talon]

Throw me a wishbone.

[versed kestrel]

Most of TIGS is not from the US

So likely still Thursday

[vapid zenith]

Ae you implying there are countries outside of America? That's preposterous

[versed kestrel]

There are

atleast for now

[versed kestrel]

💪

the tiny bit of first aid I have is cause I sutured buddies wounds and bandaged it lol

[abstract summit]

You guys think dev dairy is today

[vapid zenith]

I knew nursing school was hard but I didn't know it was "step on broken glass with bare feet and extract the foreign body" hard

[abstract summit]

Or next week

[vapid zenith]

Next week most likely

[abstract summit]

damn

[golden patio]

next week is likely

[finite glacier]

i want some dev dairy

[hidden talon]

Oh.

[left magnet]

i want thursoid!!!!!

😭

[serene bough]

never

[left magnet]

but its the 3rd Thursday of the month

[long dew]

thursdoid is last thursday of the month

[versed kestrel]

Always the last, even in a leap year month

[agile pecan]

I have a feeling first week of December unstable release, so there are two weeks for bug fix then they take 2 weeks for winter break

Or they will will release December 31st at 11:59

One of those two

[left magnet]

i thought it was the 3rd

[serene bough]

nope

[paper cobalt]

Its always the last thursday

[serene bough]

this one was literally on halloween lol how late can one get before noticing it’s the last

[finite glacier]

Its been last week of every month for a while

[lean forge]

December Thursdoids are before the holidays start.

December 19th is when the final dev blog of 2024.

[long dew]

a while back it was every other week then they gradually got more spaced out untill it was once a month at the end of the month

[serene bough]

even further back it was every monday

[mossy robin]

How will everyone react if it gets pushed back again?

[serene bough]

so much hate

even if they don’t change anything

still gonna be hate

bc they said it’s temporarily monthly

[mossy robin]

Oh I meant the update as a whole

[serene bough]

they’re cooked

[mossy robin]

Yeah that’s what I worry about

I’ve been waiting a very long time. The development process is like freakishly similar to “the isle”

If anyone’s familiar with that mess

[serene bough]

is that still early access

[mossy robin]

Yeah💀

They said you know what guys, we have this big plan to revamp the whole game from the ground up. It’s gonna be major.. we’re gonna do that one big update instead of gradually adding things over time. At first people were very receptive and loved the idea but it got pushed back so many times it’s insane

And after YEARS of constant push backs, they finally released a beta test of the revamp and there was only 2 dinosaurs you could play and the map wasn’t done LOL

[serene bough]

crazy

[mossy robin]

That was in 2019 or something and by now, there’s still only a few Dino’s you can play. Less than 10 I believe

I Hope PZ doesn’t end up like that I’m sure build 42 actually will be promising but I don’t think the idea of doing one massive update at once instead of gradual updates frequently is a good option

[finite glacier]

why

[serene bough]

well difference is pz shows the progress

and simply is faster than what u described

with the isle

[mossy robin]

Yeah, I mean they are doing better in terms of content. The aisle also showed their progress along the way but tbh they somehow made it seem like the game was gonna be more ready by release than it actually was

[mossy robin]

Cause if you look at games like No man’s sky, they’ve totally turned the public perception of their development team 180°

[finite glacier]

Isnt that game not a ea?

[mossy robin]

They do frequent updates, they never delay them, they’re always packed with enough content that you’ll never see complaints

[mossy robin]

Not anymore, no

But even still they worked their butt off to regain people’s trust and interest

[finite glacier]

I dont think it is really that easy a lot of the time

I am not a developer but logic tells me when you create something like updates it still can take time, frequent or not , things still have to be internally tested then then rely on customer feedback regarding that which could also prolong a hotfix or if something more extreme like a technical issue comes up.

like in b41 with that linux crashy thingie

[mossy robin]

Well perhaps better example that is a more fair comparison because it’s still ea and the dev team is really small.. take a look at enshrouded. They just released update 4 since their release. They’re a small team but each update has enough content to keep their player base satisfied while still bringing new interest to the game

[finite glacier]

I don't really like comparing different companies with one another because each studio is different, uses different software, engines, art, sound, etc.

[mossy robin]

I just think gradual updates is better than promising one big update and then pushing the eta repeatedly because it’s not ready yet

If they’d release it in sections they could at least release what IS ready and bring some life back to the game. I’ve played it so many times with no new content and I’m just… over it

[finite glacier]

well they did ask the community if we wanted one big update , we got it, but i think when 42 comes out maybe things will be a little different but who knows i dont know shit about development lol

i know things can get fucky

[mossy robin]

Yeah true but when the community agreed to the big update they probably didn’t think it’d get pushed over and over

[finite glacier]

im not following? we were only recently told about the crafting a fwe months ago and before that we were told officially build 42 comes out in 2024

[mossy robin]

Has this b42 not been in development for like more than a year or even 2?

Cause I’ve had the game for a long time and there’s not been a new addition of content since long before I even bought it

[finite glacier]

i dunno what they were working on for b42 previously i dont want to say the wrong thing, they finished b41 in 2022 of dec thats not even 2 years

[marsh wigeon]

There is still time to get used to it then

There's no pushing it over and over if the goal always was 2024

[serene bough]

i think pushing features is an exact replacement of pushing time

not that i care, but it is

[marsh wigeon]

No, because you get to experience the features in the update

[serene bough]

like later on after unstable?

for example if i say ok this update is planned to come out in a week, then something happens and i see that it won’t, so i just simply take out half the planned features instead of doubling the time, its the same thing, except its still “playable” at the promised week

[marsh wigeon]

think about community reaction for both cases, would theyreally be the same?

[mossy robin]

I think that depends cause personally I agree with hypno but obviously maybe not everyone would agree

But it depends on how many delays there might be. People typically don’t care about a delay or 2 we see that often with many games but when months start to go buy then people get frustrated and their opinion might change to wanting at least SOMETHING in the time being

[marsh wigeon]

And that isexactly what was decided

[mossy robin]

Project zomboid is my all time favorite zombie experience it scratches like 9/10 of the itches I have when it comes to zombie games. But it’s been a long time since I’ve owned it and I’m at a point where even like the slightest content addition would satisfy me and idc how buggy it is. I almost strictly play early access games I’m used to it

[serene bough]

ofc not, ppl just wanna play esp when they’ve been focusing on one feature of the update and not the whole thing. I’m just saying i don’t see the reason why you guys like to make it seem like ppl speak on baseless claims and that nothing ever changed in development.

meaning i don’t see why instead of saying “delays happen, it’s normal” which it definitely is normal, you guys say “it’s still 2024 i don’t see a problem” which deliberately ignores that instead of delaying time, features were delayed to keep the 2024 promise. This only happens on discord, ik the blogs actually clarify that delays needed to happen. I’m just speaking on when you guys reply to ppl who say you guys delay a lot

Now i could easily be shut up if technically tweeting “b42 in 2024” is ACTUALLY advertising just the label of “b42” and that no features were promised alongside it, meaning delaying features changes nothing cuz they were never “promised”

[mossy robin]

Mods have helped but so much of what pz has in store is well beyond what mods can offer and I just want a taste😫 lol

[serene bough]

lol when ppl say “mods to everything b42 does”

[finite glacier]

its sammich season

[marsh wigeon]

Get used to zomboid then

[serene bough]

when did you get it

[mossy robin]

I’ve even really enjoyed some devs that have had to push back an update a couple times and they were like hey, to give you guys at least something we’re gonna release like a small portion of what the update will be like for yall to enjoy and then we’ll keep working on the bigger picture

[finite glacier]

well rabbits were causing memory leaks lol

[serene bough]

i’ve been waiting on Inzoi to come out and it was told late 2024 but they just announced March 20 something which rip but honestly they needed it cuz i could see a lot of needed features missing, so idrc

[marsh wigeon]

People who say we delay a lot seem to have an ETA in their heads that doesn't exist, because we didn't give one

[serene bough]

yeah ik saying 2024 was smart because of how broad it is, it’s just obvious that if no features were delayed it could easily be mid 2025 that it comes out

[marsh wigeon]

And then we say 2024, and apparently trying to meet that with the best we can is an problem?

[marsh wigeon]

The problem is most of the features in the update are planned to depend on each other, there's no way to release half of it because half of it is a bugged, non-functional mess

[mossy robin]

Do you like take offense to these discussions or something? I’m not tryna hit a nerve or anything homie I love yall I’m just expressin my take

[mossy robin]

That’s fair

[serene bough]

yeah but it’s different to say “we’ll try to get it 2024 for you guys” and “it will come out 2024 (which assumes feature complete)”

One shows delays might happen to get it out for us, one shows that you guys see a window to get it feature complete

[marsh wigeon]

No, I don't

[serene bough]

replying to this

[marsh wigeon]

You know, English isn't even my native language, I'm not going to argue over that

[serene bough]

fair

anyways have a nice day hope i didn’t annoy

[mossy robin]

Nearly 2 years ago

Actually, yeah probably 2 or more cause I had it before I got with my gf

[serene bough]

so early 2023 i’m assuming

so mid late 2022

assuming you played for a couple months before THEN itching for updates, have u rly been waiting that long especially for a major update

[mossy robin]

Possibly yeah. Maybe mid cause I met my gf end of 2022. That’s like my reference point for time cause I suck at remembering stuff lol

[mossy robin]

Not as long as others but it’s longer than most games when it comes to updates

And don’t get me wrong I never said I wouldn’t wait. I’ve been waiting for crimson desert since 2016.. imagine that.. but it comes to a point where it slowly fades to the back of my mind

I’m not gonna be one to say hey boycott this cause it’s taking forever!

[marsh wigeon]

We have players testing it and finding bugs or things to improve, this is the last phase before it is released, we just don't want your first experience with the build to be full of things we could have solved

[mossy robin]

But yeah idk the isle has just put a wedge in my trust when it comes to future plans and stuff

[finite glacier]

awh i hope i see some weird chicken bug or something

CHICKEN PUDDLE!!!!

[mossy robin]

I understand that. I’m glad tho it seems close

[marsh wigeon]

Ohhhh you bet we have those 😉

[finite glacier]

LOL YAY

[serene bough]

build ui gonna be hype

[mental token]

MASS MULTIPLY THE POULTRY

[serene bough]

and crafting if it gets changed bc of build ui

[mossy robin]

I’m obsessed with zombie shows and zombie games pz is the only game that does the apocalyptic world correctly

[sinful geode]

noo that's bad more bugs more fixing more delays !! ;)))

[serene bough]

pz would’ve been out earlier if people actually understood what unstable is

bc i already know 75% will treat it as a full release and any bug will cause them to riot

[marsh wigeon]

Well, there's that

[finite glacier]

wheres my meme

lol

[mossy robin]

Idk about yall but I been an ark fan since 2015. No amount of bugs can upset me anymore LOL😭

[serene bough]

i miss when games used to be buggy as the fun of it

[sinful geode]

try no more room in hell 2

[serene bough]

now it’s heresy

[sinful geode]

that will cleanse you of that feeling

[mossy robin]

Yes but not EA or Ubisoft level of bugs

Cause now that’s just inexcusable lol

[serene bough]

ppl still eat those games up

i never buy EA or Ubisoft franchise games. only standalones they make

[abstract summit]

Your recent replies are greatly appreciated

[mossy robin]

Unfortunately. I’d rather pay money to small dev teams that will care and take suggestions than to pay a AAA company that has all the budget, all the cool patents, and the team size and more.. but yet ignores the player base and still releases hot garbage riddled with bugs that ruin the experience

[abstract summit]

I appreciate the transparency. Makes me feel like I know what’s going on behind the scenes. I’m less frustrated now

[true venture]

Project Zomboid must be one of the games most open to their players about development

[finite glacier]

yeah i never really got into indie games until ea program came out and i really love the community involvement from them more over aaa games

[frigid sapphire]

I'm personally a bigger fan of opacity. Don't tell us anything. In fact, explicitly tell us that you're not going to tell us anything ever again

[finite glacier]

lmao HUSH omer

[vapid zenith]

There's a big difference between funny haha bugs and "holy shit this is unplayable" bugs

And the latter are far more common and easy to make

[true venture]

Or better yet, don't tell us that you're not going to tell us anything ever again but still do it

[abstract summit]

Is half of the new content haha bugged or unplayable bugged is the question

[mossy robin]

Same

[vapid zenith]

I see no reason to say it's bugged rn

[finite glacier]

man yeah my friends game on cyberpunk corrupted for no ravioli when it first came out and i remember playing eq2 back in like 2007 and falling through the map and dying for NO REASON TOoo lol

[mossy robin]

Definitely but there is also still a line imo

[frigid sapphire]

Even better, tell only one of us that you're not going to tell us anything ever again but delete the message so everyone doesn't believe that one person until it's too late

[finite glacier]

i dont mind playing and helping finding bugs on unstable but if its going to corrupt my world n stuff when pz is already hard enough , id rather nots

[vapid zenith]

I bought Cyberpunk on release like an idiot and the audio didn't even work

[mossy robin]

Like starwars outlaws there’s a few funny bugs that don’t affect gameplay but there’s… more than just a few in fact. And when you look at it all together it gets frustrating because again it’s a AAA company so how did all that stuff slide in the first place? And it’s so immersion breaking

[vapid zenith]

Not a funny haha bug for me

Lack of quality control, but it's hard to pinpoint the exact problem with game development

[sinful geode]

same, never falling for that again from CDproject

[mossy robin]

A massive company hogging the rights to make starwars games but can’t even properly immerse you into the world without characters glitching out and stuff

[vapid zenith]

There's a YouTuber named Matt McMuscles who does some great autopsies of failed games, it shows how many things can go wrong

[sinful geode]

I heard the game was terrible at launch

ubisoft lost 20% off stocks

[vapid zenith]

In all likelihood Ubisoft is on its way out

[mossy robin]

But you gotta give them credit for turning that whole thing around and fixed their mistakes. I appreciate that all the content they added and all the time they spent fixing things they never charged DLC

[vapid zenith]

They keep releasing failure after failure

[true venture]

Wait until you hear this one. Spread misinformation at a rapid pace, show a selective set of Thursdoids detailing completely differently things to different discord users so that every user argues with each other over what the Thursdoid said. Create mass panic and provide no answers, ultimately destroy all speaking channels once confusion is at its peak and watch as a community burns.

[finite glacier]

lol , yeah i remember walking on the highway and no cars and like 5 seconds later they all spawned in the sky and tea bagged me. The game is great now, still bugs like with npc pathing like skyrim n shit but still love the game now lol

[mossy robin]

Same with No man’s sky. They had such a bad launch and the lies gave them a bad rep but they really turned it around and gave CONSTANT free updates still to this day and the game just continues to exceed the original expectations

[vapid zenith]

I dunno, I'm starting to think the big companies saw what happened with No Man's Sky and were just like "oh we can just release it unfinished and fix it later"

It's good that Hello Games fixed No Man's Sky but it created a terrible terrible precedent

[sinful geode]

doesn't work, they loose player base this way, look at starfield

[vapid zenith]

Wait what does that reaction mean lol

[vapid zenith]

It's on a case by case basis

[finite glacier]

its cause you said hello lol the bot auto hi hi's lol

[vapid zenith]

Oh lmao

I thought I finally graduated from being a plunger but alas, life is cruel

[frigid sapphire]

This one is the winner

[mossy robin]

Yeah the difference between nms and star field is that hello games is pushing constant updates. It’s not just 1 or 2 improvements here or there.. it’s almost like every 3 months tops, there’s a new update for nms and every time without fail so far it’s been actual good content. They’ve revamped the worlds added more immersion and dynamic weather systems they’ve implemented suggestions from their player base and they never charged another dollar for it all

AND they put their game on sale for each update which I love cause most games do the opposite

[marsh wigeon]

Unstable will be the time to provide feedback, I know, I was there during the last few

[marsh wigeon]

Sadly, yeah. And we need to be sure the build is playable

[serene bough]

Peasant…

[serene bough]

did anything get added clearly from your suggestion

[polar venture]

Speaking of playability, what's the one feature about b42 that you're most excited about? If any, or more than one!

[finite glacier]

Crawl inside a horse like a taun taun

[marsh wigeon]

Yeah, for example I suggested that car trunks could have themed items, like fishing gear + fish way back wehn we got vehicles, among other things

[finite glacier]

Lol twine

[marsh wigeon]

Getting it released? 😅 I don't know, the whole package is very interesting. If I had to pick one thing it would probably be animals

[polar venture]

😂 Fair, fair!

[serene bough]

animals useless to me sadly

no guns if i’m doing wilderness run

[finite glacier]

You take that back!!

[serene bough]

unless there’s any other way to catch a deer

[vapid zenith]

I've been playing Stardew Valley so I'm excited to do the expanded farming in Zomboid lol

Also has anyone made the stardew map in PZ yet because if not we're sitting on gold

[finite glacier]

deer is gonna catch you

[rough oxide]

personally i'm very excited on basements, there's so much you can do with -32 floors

[hearty frigate]

Weird one but being able to hold a gun in one hand and criss cross with a flashlight all tacti-cool like - I MEAN COME ON IT LOOKS SO COOL

[mossy robin]

That’s the kind of immersive things that I want in zombie games but so far no other has delivered such a feeling

[dull gazelle]

Like what? I have no ideas besides bunkers and missile silos

[mossy robin]

Is there a spot where we can also make suggestions? Cause if little things like that are on the table to be heard and considered boy would I have lots and lots to say lol

[finite glacier]

steam forums lol

id say tis forums but steam forums is easiest i think personally

[mossy robin]

I’ll check it out. I’ve got so many ideas for an immersive apocalyptic world that I can’t do jack squat with cause idk the first thing about game development lol. But if there’s at least one thing I can do is to dump it all on the pz forum cause it’s the only game that comes close to doing some of the things I’ve always wanted to see in a zombie game

[finite glacier]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/2/

there lol

yah and its cool seeing others ideas and interacting with them

[mossy robin]

Agreed

[rough oxide]

the millitary base, the creepy sanatorium, the randomised residential basements. hell modders could probably build a full ass subway under louiseville, or make the paris catacombs. You could also have a network of caves running across the entire map.

[mossy robin]

Gotta save this for when I get home from work muahaha

[hearty frigate]

I'm planning to make full use of the negative cells for my map mod. (Which is why I've held off progress on it)
Maybe one day with a ton of blood sweat and tears, I'll make a standalone map that promotes sewer/underground living combined with settings to make above ground hellish.

(Let my metro dreams come true in zomboid)

[dull gazelle]

I just hope we get access to the new tools and tiles on day 1

[hearty frigate]

If we don't, I'm not too fussed! Gives me a chance to chew into the update rather than modding

[finite glacier]

oo sewer lol

i wanna lvie in a sewer

[mossy robin]

It’s like small immersive stuff that I love so much some ppl might find it insignificant but like soulfilcher suggestion I think it’s so sick to have loot spawning exactly where you might expect to find it irl. Problem I have with games like dayz where you find dresses on the kitchen counter or canned beans on the nightstand.. scredriver on the bed or a can opener in the shed.. it’s like??? I love being able search a drawer in the kitchen and you find all the random junk you might find in a real household cause cmon.. we all got junk drawers. And like he said if we can expect to find like fishing gear, camping gear, tool boxes, hiking boots, all in trunks like you’d probably expect irl

I’ll be so happy

[hearty frigate]

The way I envisage it, is having a network of sewers / areas beneath ground suitable for living etc
But then when I actually play / others play, set the temps to be catasphorically low. So coming out of your little sewer hovel to go looting above ground will be tough but will let you survive longer until you crawl beneath ground again

[finite glacier]

man older buidls were so weird with loot spawns rofl but i agree , i played a few games durin that demo fest , survival zomber games, and some of the loot you could find was just weird .. maybe i am just so used to pz although i tried keeping a open neutral mind, but the way dismantling worked for the game was kind of op and got lots of weird tools for things for what i dismantled lol

[hearty frigate]

My map mod is about 70% complete on cells, buildings etc. Just gunna pick it back up when the new build is available so I can work on beneath ground stuff too. So stoked

[finite glacier]

that sounds interesting sounds like a fun little project

[mossy robin]

I never got too familiar with scrapping and crafting tbh I just love to loot and feel like I’m in an episode of the walking dead

[mental token]

You're aware we're also getting deer and raccoons? Visible rabbits, rats, etc. In other words, hunting game? Might be useful for your wilderness runs, eh?

[hearty frigate]

It's amazing how far we've come. I remember being in school and trying this out back as baldspot and kate. Running round as a half-bald little pixel man smushing zombies with a baseball bat before the bandit came in and killed me - I remember sleeping in an apartment opposite the drug store hearing the zombies outside and thinking "This is so damn atmospheric and storytelling"

I thought "This could really go far I hope they update it" then I completely forgot about it for a good while until they made things 3D and then I never put it back down ever again XD

[mental token]

Do the devs have any fears that the release of B42 won't result in a big wave of new purchases like B41 did with the release of multiplayer?

[serene bough]

it helps to read everything i said

[hot dragon]

i personally always wanted to try surviving in the sewers or some real underground complexes

[marsh wigeon]

Yeah, I think people will make some insane maps!

[lunar tangle]

I'm excited for the use of ramps, climbing hills and mountains are possible now

[versed kestrel]

So I started learning the tiled mapping tools, but do we get better tools in B42 or is it the same but updated? 🤔

I know that other tools are supposed to be released for modders

[mental token]

Oh

[steel gulch]

parking garages

[lean forge]

imagine some car tunnels and having to carry a flashlight after a power outage.

[lunar tangle]

your limited flashlight range barely helps you see, but the ones in the dark knows where you are

[lean forge]

would be nice to attach some flashlights to firearms

shotgun with flashlight taped to gun.

[rough oxide]

Prob gonna be in the first b42 mods

[signal sparrow]

with GrappleTech and the fluids system, we all know what one of the first B42 mods is gonna be

[vapid zenith]

Nooooooo

[rough oxide]

[long dew]

absolutely

[long dew]

me too

[lunar tangle]

blood splatter :D

[signal sparrow]

and I hope that one of the first QoL mods is making every single raccoon’s fur orange

[versed kestrel]

if they don't do it, I will

logged on the server and someone had logged off during a heli event (set to sometimes) without telling anyone

so I had to run away from the base, turns out there are more zombies in muldraugh than I realized, thought we had mostly cleared them

I survived but had to do some dodging

[signal sparrow]

lol “I’ll let Ecn handle this”

[versed kestrel]

pretty much lol

[signal sparrow]

drop them off at West Point or LV as payback

[versed kestrel]

🤣

I am gonna take a look at the server log to see who was the last one to log off

[signal sparrow]

top 5 trustworthy friends during the zombie apocalypse

[versed kestrel]

[signal sparrow]

good thing you took care of the horde or everyone would’ve probably died or be slightly discouraged from playing another character

[versed kestrel]

one friend who logged on with me is scared as heck about the shuffled hordes around

he doesn't like to leave the base much and one of the gates broke

those are all fresh lol

[signal sparrow]

🚨 all friends immediately hop on the PZ server. There’s been a breach 🚨

[versed kestrel]

🤣

they are almost all east coast so they would just not logon lol

[signal sparrow]

oh damn you’ve been busy lol all melee?

[versed kestrel]

nearly all, I found an M9 which had a few shots in it, and a DEgal which had a few shots

was mostly just trying to draw them in with the shots though

[signal sparrow]

hope your hand(s) got a break after all that

although it was likely a breeze given your experience and melee skills rn

[versed kestrel]

yea it wasn't the worst

I have been in worse situations lol

I was just unsure if they had been seen and logged off or if it was safe to just chill in the base

so I opt to go out

[scenic moat]

how high is the population setting there? i play on 4

[versed kestrel]

cause my friends are new I put it to 3, normally I am a 16x enjoyer

[scenic moat]

I'm not sure if 16x is possible in MP

[versed kestrel]

it is if the server is beefy enough

I used to play on a 16x hardcore server

[scenic moat]

I guess 16x is when installing brita's makes sense

[versed kestrel]

I will admit, most of the deaths were desync related though

ahh yea we didn't use britas on it, and I don't use britas in my sp runs either

most of my 16x runs have been vanilla tbh

[signal sparrow]

sprinters?

[versed kestrel]

I have played on sprinter servers before, but they are not my favourite

they can be fun though

[hidden talon]

Hopefully, just before releasing Build 42 to Unstable, there will be a robust public bug tracker that players can file reports on, and you will be able to categorize/filter/sort/triage those bugs quickly.

This is the one feature I really wished to see before the game is ready.

I just want to see what bugs are reported, so I don't report duplicate bugs and making the team waste their time with duplicate reported bugs.

[finite glacier]

Steam forums and tis forums has bug report areas , although lots of time people report bugs when they have mods lol

[versed kestrel]

I ❤️ TIGS

Yea I am pretty sure they still prefer bug reports posted on their forums the most

You know what feature I am excited for? Being able to use mouse buttons as push to talk 🙏

[scenic moat]

github or trello are better suited for bug reports

[finite glacier]

Omg yah mouse button binds

[versed kestrel]

I requested that feature way back in the day and it is finally coming

[finite glacier]

Forgot about that i use that for my map in a lots of games

[signal sparrow]

all the “bug reports” on Steam and TIGS forums after B42 unstable comes out, and the devs looking at the community like

[finite glacier]

Lol

All thr bread techsupports lmao

[versed kestrel]

I use mouse 5 as my PTT for discord/ts so it would be nice to not have to fumble for the PZ one (ended up using ~)

[versed kestrel]

Tbh I do not miss the people getting progressively more angry that MP wasn't apart of B41 yet so I am not looking forward to this

[finite glacier]

Yeah im surprised i havent seen much of that either , like not even on smthe forums lol

Only few times when first announced

[signal sparrow]

no doubt we’ll see more of it later

and I forgot about the mouse button binds. Another reason to upgrade my mouse on top of the recent sales in electronics

[serene bough]

^^

i wish pz would include more makeshift options

b42 adds the craftable tools and stuff yes but i’m talking putting 2 things together and taping it, not just poor blacksmithing

kinda like Dead Rising

[burnt bronze]

The best weapon in Dead Rising is wrestling moves

Well

The most fun

The real question is when will TIGS let us suplex zeds

[cursive fulcrum]

Dead Rising isn't known for being realistic

[fluid trench]

are deer going to crash into our cars

[hushed prairie]

Hunting knife boxing gloves? Absolute kino

There's less than 30 days left until the last possible thursdoid or release date of the year, just gotta survive one more month

We stay grinding we stay hustling

[sinful geode]

you will know sooner

we have next week's blog with more info

and I believe it will kinda point out if it's in time for 2024 or later

[sullen coral]

next blog should be called Pat's blog fr

[frigid sapphire]

Imagine getting bit on the arm because your knife glove gets stuck. Terrible weapon, 2/10, sticking with boot

[sullen coral]

i think stomping wont oneshot anything in b42

[frigid sapphire]

I think you need a stronger stomping foot

[sullen coral]

i use melee weapons if theres more than 10 zombies following me

cuz i can just oneshot them by stomping

[frigid sapphire]

What is “melee weapon”? I know only Boot

[sullen coral]

same actually

[abstract summit]

These designs kinda don’t make sense lol

[fluid trench]

the double axed hockey stick would break at any reasonable force since its held togetheer by duct tape

the boxing glove with knives taped on it would come off after a single punch and likely pierce you

the double barrel with the machete attached.. Might work but still better to use the machete on its own

shotgun with pitchfork attached on top of it - Shotgun shells destroy pitchfork on top, Congratulation

duct tape is not a very good Crafting material for long term usage

[serene bough]

how the hell did everyone reading my post take it seriously😭 no one wants dead rising weapons

i was just giving examples of makeshift weapons

[vapid zenith]

Lets do our part of the Terraria crossover and attach knives to yoyos

[finite glacier]

Ok only if i get a plunger weapon !!!

[finite glacier]

lmao someone on steam forums : " Like the latest discussion about bras. Whether they should offer any kind of bonus or not.
Since sneakers make you run 10% faster, maybe sports bra's should allow for 1% better combat movement?"

[lean forge]

clothing with displayed stats like stomp damage since the shoes in game dont display that lol

[mental token]

Or maybe more efficient running, where the player loses less energy when running while wearing one because they aren't bouncing around and putting strain on your back!

Although, that would make female characters off balance from male ones.

Either less efficient, more efficient, or asymmetrical.

And it would probably amount to more requests for gender differences, which could get messy.

Sneakers should definitely make you marginally faster and accumulate less running strain, though.

Seriously, there's a world of nuance that we can put into clothing outside of protection and insulation.

[frigid sapphire]

Lmao at 1% better, why even ask if they're gonna lowball

Should've gone all in and suggested bras give 100% extra damage

[finite glacier]

lol

[vapid zenith]

If gender changes were ever implemented, I'd assume it would be a sandbox option

But gameplay wise there's not really a point unless you care about ultra ultra realism

Calculating how much a bra helps with efficiently running feels like a bit much lol

[dawn fox]

That's literally a feature in b42

[serene bough]

Did u just reply to the comment where i said i know about the features in b42

[dawn fox]

Yeah, because they've shown plenty of pictures where you can craft makeshift weapons

[serene bough]

all i could think of are spear attachments, saw, and nails. While those definitely fit my category, all i said was i wish there were more support for that than blacksmithed weapons

[dull berry]

i break everything i touch immediately in the weirdest way possible i will do my part on b42 that is a promise

[signal sparrow]

#tweets message

[serene bough]

yum

rolled up paper sticks when

[lean forge]

bowling pin weapons

https://tenor.com/view/niko-gif-18981911

[signal sparrow]

I thought these were paper blowguns/blowdarts lol spitballs at zombies will be the new meta

[fluid trench]

emotional damage.

[burnt bronze]

I guess i can imagine doing it from a safe position to relieve boredom lol

[signal sparrow]

throw pebbles at zombies to lure one by one

or skip rocks by the lake/pond to also relieve boredom

[foggy rover]

we need more...

[rough oxide]

We're less than 69 messages away from 6969

[serene bough]

we need to limit our messaging

[signal sparrow]

I thought the goal was 7777 messages

[frigid sapphire]

6666 made sense on the Halloween one. For this one I think just setting a record as usual is reasonable

[signal sparrow]

we pulled through last time with 1-2 days before the next blog post. Maybe it won’t be so different this time around too. I imagine there’ll be lots of hype (thus messages) this upcoming Thursday

less than 60 messages to reach a consensus/take a vote

[shut moss]

fine

I'll help

[steel gulch]

double funny number

[raw coral]

Can we get to 6969 ??

[fluid trench]

We need a topic to ramble on

[raw coral]

What do you lads think about STALKER 2?

[mental token]

Request: don't lock this thread until a satisfying 8888

[steel gulch]

haven’t played, never played the first one either, looks cool though

[lunar tangle]

[versed kestrel]

first one is good (especially with mods) the next two are ok and I can't say anything about stalker 2 (technically stalker 4) as I have not played it yet

but it's using DLSS in it's basic requirements makes me sick tbh

[steel gulch]

what’s DLSS

[burnt bronze]

Essentially per frame AI upscaling

For RTX

Nvidias is called something different

Ps5 pro runs the PSSR (affectionately known as the "pisser")

[burnt bronze]

Why? Because its AI?

[versed kestrel]

Nvidias is DLSS AMD's is FSR

[versed kestrel]

no because it looks bad, and is lazy

you get a ghosting effect in most DLSS situations

[steel gulch]

Thank u for the explanation

[burnt bronze]

Right you are there

[burnt bronze]

I can understand not being a fan the visual bugs

In terms of calling it "lazy".. idk. Probably a lot of work has gone into making it happen and if it can alleviate technical constraints well.. thats what AI should be for

[versed kestrel]

technical constraints that mods have already started to fix? lazy.

[burnt bronze]

Modders have fixed a heaps zomboid issues 😅 TIS must be lazy too

[versed kestrel]

🙂 but they are still Early Access and not a $80 (CAD) game

[burnt bronze]

Well thats true
But wouldnt stalker modder just be stripping out features to make it run better?

Imo thats lazier

[versed kestrel]

DLSS/FSR is neat in theory, allowing players who don't have great rigs to experience better performance and upscale things. But requiring it on top end machines is not a good look

[burnt bronze]

Ok that i agree with for sure. Great point

Specially since its only there on certain cards

[steel gulch]

We’re so close to 6969

[versed kestrel]

I don't think they are stripping out features? example this mod just tweaks things under the hood for better performance https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/2?tab=description

[versed kestrel]

totally!

[finite glacier]

What say

Its a clue I KNOW IT

[signal sparrow]

TIGS Lenny asking for help

[finite glacier]

Lol right?!

[hidden talon]

In a zombie apocalypse, what are the uses for paper sticks?

[hidden talon]

Damn it... now I'm waiting for nasko to lock the thread at 6969.

Why do people always keep pointing out numbers like that here?? 👿

[serene bough]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-beyond-whip-payback-animation-walking-gif-25255100

[serene bough]

sadly too early. gotta do 7777

[rough oxide]

Nooo!

[signal sparrow]

lol is that the actual in-game eye chart?

[finite glacier]

Ya

Was in lv eye glass store on uppet right of LV

[signal sparrow]

the TIGS lore grows now we need a VHS or game store named after TIGS

also, 10 more messages. Will the thread be locked at 6969? 🤔

[finite glacier]

Prolly not if its weekend lol

Time to get to 10k !!!

[signal sparrow]

+99 unhappiness

[steel gulch]

so close

[signal sparrow]

deleting messages doesn't lower the count, does it?

[serene bough]

it does lol

[finite glacier]

Lol

[signal sparrow]

🎉

[drowsy relic]

alas, it was 6969, now it be 6970

stop deleting your messages

[finite glacier]

Lmao

[flat needle]

build 42 next week

[flat needle]

i need this

40 fps in a village with 4070ti, 16gb ram, 5700x3d

[lunar tangle]

gg

[versed kestrel]

that is insane

[flat needle]

with dlss+frame gen i get 60+fps

anyway that's fr insane

no optimization at all

[versed kestrel]

yea that is my problem with that sort of thing 😦

and sadly the industry is going to go more and more towards that being the standard

[lament osprey]

I've been loving it, put 22 hours in within 2 days, I know a lot of people have been having issues whether it's bugs or frame drops but everythings been perfect for me, haven't dealt with any of it thankfully even when I have it set to max graphics

[cursive fulcrum]

If you git gud there's no bugs

[drifting geode]

new emojicons

release is imminent

[paper cobalt]

+ =

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[mental token]

〰️

[raw coral]

I ran into a lot of issues running the game on max settings, and can barely run over 80 fps and sometimes all the way down to 50 fps
my specs are:
PALIT GeForce RTX 4090 GameRock Omniblack 24GB
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Processor
X670 AORUS ELITE AX
2x Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR5 6000MHz 2x32GB RAM

The game is just so unoptimized it's crazy.

[paper cobalt]

+ =

[rough oxide]

I missed the 6969

[lean forge]

About to reach 7k posts

[vapid zenith]

I really don't get how after all these release failures development don't realize optimization is important

Is it like the models are way too detailed or is it unoptimized code?

[paper cobalt]

Its the bitcoin miner on your computer

[sullen coral]

spiffo.exe eating ur gpu

[finite glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[lean forge]

7 days until December.

[sullen coral]

sadly a human cant sleep for 7 days straight

[serene bough]

like 2 months old

[finite glacier]

NUH UH